Pod Insights Infamous America KIDNAPPINGS Ep. 1 | The Lindbergh Baby: “Crime of the Century” About this episode On May 21, 1927, 25 year old Charles LIndbergh became the biggest star on the planet. He advanced the travel industry to a level many doubted was possible after completing the first ever solo flight from New York to Paris in 55 hours. That should have been the most dramatic moment of any person’s life, but it wasn’t for Charles. Five years later his 20 month old son was kidnapped from his home in Hopewell, New Jersey in circumstances so bizarre they made everyone suspect, from household staff to Al Capone, and captivated the world’s attention.
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1:05 Speaker 01 It was a gray and dismal spring morning in New York on May 20, 1927. Charles Lindbergh awoke restless and sleep deprived. The previous night, he had been consumed by nerves and anticipation. Today, at just 25 years old, he was going to attempt something that had never been done. Naysayers called it a gamble. The boldest skeptics labeled it a death wish. Lindbergh's goal was to fly across the Atlantic Ocean by himself in a single-engine plane. In the early morning, Lindbergh arrived at Roosevelt Field, Long Island. Awaiting him was the Spirit of St. Louis, a custom-built aircraft with just one seat,
1:47 Speaker 01 named in honor of his St. Louis investors who scraped together funding for his endeavor. The stakes were high. Not only was the flight unprecedented, but a $25,000 prize sweetened the challenge. Others had tried and failed. Military pilots had managed transatlantic journeys, but only with stops and multiple crew members. Eight years earlier, in 1919, Captain John Alcock and navigator Arthur Brown braved a 16-hour flight from Newfoundland on the northeast coast of Canada to Galway on the west coast of Ireland. It was the shortest distance across the Atlantic Ocean, and the flight had been treacherous.
2:29 Speaker 01 They endured icy storms, faced engine failures, and survived only by crash-landing into an Irish bog. It was heroic, but they were experienced military men and they could work together as a team. Charles Lindbergh had comparatively little experience. He was going to try to fly double the number of hours and nearly double the number of miles, and he was going to do it alone.
2:57 Speaker 01 Lindbergh was going to fly thirty-three and a half hours, non-stop, from New York to Paris. Many doubted him, but Lindbergh, with his cobbled-together funds and makeshift plane, was determined to prove them wrong. At precisely 7:52 a.m., Lindbergh took off from Long Island, and the flight tested his limits almost immediately. Just four hours in, the lack of sleep caught up with him. He dipped dangerously low and flew only ten feet above the ocean waves to fight off drowsiness. Ahead of him, there were still twenty-nine hours of silence, loneliness, and exhaustion. Lindbergh wrestled with hallucinations, battled disorienting fog,
3:40 Speaker 01 and made spur-of-the-moment decisions, including navigating away from a storm that threatened to ice his wings. At one point, he felt himself slipping into microsleeps. His chin slipped toward his chest, and then his head jerked up in moments of panic. But he survived the long night, and as the sun rose on May 21st, he knew he only had about eight hours left. Lindbergh rallied, and a second wind carried him toward his goal. On May 21st, 1927, at 10:22 p.m. local time, Charles Lindbergh descended onto French soil in Paris. He had been awake for fifty-five hours. He had flown for thirty-three and a half continuous hours,
4:24 Speaker 01 and he had covered 3,600 miles, most of it over the open ocean. Exhausted but triumphant, Lindbergh emerged from the plane as an instant international hero. An estimated 150,000 people flooded the airfield to celebrate the historic achievement.
4:47 Speaker 01 Three weeks later, he and his plane rode a Navy cruiser back across the ocean to the United States. And his return was the biggest spectacle the nation had ever seen. He received a military escort into the Washington Navy Yard, where President Calvin Coolidge presented him with the very first distinguished flying cross. Later in the year, Charles Lindbergh was awarded the Medal of Honor, which made him one of 204 people who received the award for noncombat actions. New York City held a parade in his honor with millions in attendance. The $25,000 prize, which was the equivalent of nearly $450,000 today, cemented his newfound wealth and fame.
5:31 Speaker 01 He was a worldwide celebrity on an unparalleled level. In today's day and age, with computers, smartphones, and the Internet, it's almost impossible to understand the global fame of Charles Lindbergh during an era where the most advanced communication technology was the radio. And the glory came with a price. He had gone from an unknown 25-year-old Minnesota farm boy to the most well-known person in the world, literally overnight, from May 20th to May 21st, 1927. The following years of his life unfolded in the spotlight, as he was followed everywhere by cameras and crowds. Lindbergh enjoyed camaraderie in social circles, but he quickly grew uncomfortable with the
6:16 Speaker 01 invasive scrutiny of fame. And then, just five years after his monumental flight, he was in news headlines around the world again, this time for the darkest and most difficult chapter of his life. Lindbergh's 20-month-old son was kidnapped from the family home while the family was in the house. The events were terrifying, and the case was baffling. Lindbergh and the authorities rushed to find the child and then the kidnapper, and suspicion fell on everyone.
7:00 Speaker 01 From Black Barrel Media, this is Infamous America. I'm your host, Chris Wimmer. In this season, we're telling stories of some of the most notorious kidnappings in American history. The crazy events which surrounded each abduction and the chaotic investigations into the cases. This is episode one, The Lindbergh Baby, Part One: Crime of the Century.
7:25 Speaker 01 In 1929, two years after Charles Lindbergh's legendary transatlantic flight, he was a household name, he had financial success, and he was a newlywed. He married Anne Morrow, the daughter of a bank executive and the US ambassador to Mexico. She came from a life of privilege and prestige, and together, they became America's most glamorous power couple. But for Charles, status and fame were always a mixed bag. He enjoyed his exalted position in society, but he did not like the relentless public attention. Charles and Anne bonded over their mutual love of flying and shared dreams of starting a family.
8:07 Speaker 01 They embraced adventure and thrived in social circles, but they also wanted privacy. On June 22, 1930, their desire for privacy took on greater importance when Anne gave birth to their son, Charles Jr., whom they called Charlie. Sharing a birthday with his mother and a name with his father, baby Charlie's arrival ignited a media megastorm. The newborn was thrust into the spotlight, and the Lindberghs tried to shield him from public view. Their quest for privacy only fueled speculation. Some wondered if the Lindberghs were hiding something. The public started asking if something was wrong with the baby's health.
8:48 Speaker 01 The world had expectations, assuming the son of an aviation pioneer would someday fill his father's shoes. United States Surgeon General Hugh Cummings publicly wished young Charlie to have, quote, "as useful a life as his father." Eventually, Charles Lindbergh bowed to public pressure. To quiet the rumors, the Lindberghs shared a few photos of their son around his first birthday in 1931. The pictures depicted a healthy boy with a head of curly brown hair, but they did little to stem the world's insatiable curiosity. If the general public was given nothing, they were rabid for something. If they were given something, they wanted more. The Lindberghs' quest for privacy seemed unwinnable,
9:33 Speaker 01 and to make matters worse, there was growing tension in the family.
9:42 Speaker 01 To the general public, who were not familiar with the downside of fame, the Lindberghs appeared to have it all. But cracks in their idyllic image began to show. While Charles championed the idea of family life, his thirst for adventure often pulled him away. He still had the skies to conquer, and he wanted Anne to accompany him, a plan that conflicted with Anne's desire to stay with baby Charlie. Anne was raised in a wealthy household where nannies were common, but she wrestled with the idea of replicating her own childhood for her son. Ultimately, when Charlie was about nine months old, Anne conceded to Charles's wishes and hired a caretaker.
10:24 Speaker 01 Betty Gao, a young woman from Scotland with no prior nannying experience, joined the household in February 1931. Despite her inexperience, she quickly became Charlie's primary caregiver during his parents' frequent absences. Betty shared a deep bond with Charlie, often going above and beyond her duties. She spent her own money on clothes as Charlie rapidly outdrew his outfits, and she developed a hands-on, affectionate parenting style. But when Charles was home, things were different. The family often referred to him as "the Colonel", an honorary title he had received after his historic flight. The title now reflected his parenting style.
11:07 Speaker 01 Lindbergh was a stern and regimented father who believed in fostering independence and resilience in his son. He shunned the coddling ways of others, and he insisted on a hands-off approach which clashed with Betty's nurturing methods.
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12:48 Speaker 01 And there was a major change coming. The holidays were approaching, which would add extra chaos to the family's lives, but the major change was that Anne and Charles had purchased a new home. In their continuing quest for more privacy, they bought a 400-acre estate near the town of Hopewell, New Jersey. At the end of 1931, workers were still finishing construction on the new house, but the family planned to start the slow move-in process in January 1932. And they wouldn't be finished when tragedy struck in March.
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14:33 Speaker 01 In January 1932, when Charlie was a year and a half old, the Lindberghs started to move into the Hopewell Estate. Betty Gow had returned to the family toward the end of 1931 after her vacation, and they all split time between the estate and the home of Ann Lindbergh's mother in Inglewood, New Jersey, about 60 miles north along the Hudson River. The Lindberghs typically traveled down to the Hopewell Estate on the weekends and supervised the final phase of construction while they gradually moved in. As Ann and Charles watched the estate come together, they had a glimmer of hope that privacy might finally be within reach. The new house was surrounded by dense woods and was accessible only by narrow dirt
15:18 Speaker 01 roads. It wasn't far from towns like Princeton and Trenton, but neighbors were spread out and the area still didn't have street signs. It was the perfect retreat for a few weeks. News of their new home quickly spread, and the seclusion and long, twisting driveway did little to deter diehard fans from trying to catch a glimpse of the famous family. In the last week of February 1932, the Lindberghs were still commuting between the Morrow Mansion and the Hopewell Estate.
15:52 Speaker 01 Typically, they spent the weekend at Hopewell and then returned to the Morrow Mansion on Monday morning. But in the final weekend of February, a frigid winter storm hit the region. By Monday morning, February 29th, both Little Charlie and Ann Lindbergh had colds. Ann was four months pregnant with a couple's second child, and the family decided it was better to stay at the estate another night. On Tuesday, March 1st, the winter storm continued. It was dark, windy, and pouring rain. Traveling back to the Morrow Mansion was out of the question. The Lindbergs decided to stay at Hopewell one more night, and the night turned out to be one of the most controversial, mysterious, and notorious in American history.
16:42 Speaker 01 At approximately 7:30 PM, Ann Lindbergh and Betty Gow put Charlie to bed in his second-floor nursery. Charlie was snug in his sleeping suit, wearing thumb guards to deter thumb-sucking, and his chest was coated with medication to help his cold. The women carefully latched the windows, but one window was warped, and it refused to close properly. Betty checked on Charlie between 8:00 and 8:30 PM. The room and the boy were as she had left them, and she slipped back out until her next check-in at 10:00 PM.
17:18 Speaker 01 It was Betty's routine to take Charlie to the bathroom before everyone else went to bed, so Charlie was familiar with the 10:00 PM wake-up call. While Charlie slept between 8:30 and 10:00 PM, the evening proceeded peacefully downstairs. By most accounts, around 8:00 PM, Charles and Ann dined on a meal prepared by their butlers, Elsie and Oliver Whately. After dinner, Charles and Ann talked in the living room for a little while, and then by 9:15, Ann retired to the master bedroom to get ready for bed. Charles went to his study to read, and Betty Gow spent time chatting with Elsie in the kitchen. Around ten PM, Betty climbed the stairs to check on Charlie.
18:03 Speaker 01 The nursery was dark, just as she had left it an hour and a half or two hours earlier. But as her eyes adjusted, she became anxious. The room wasn't alarming because of what she saw, it was alarming because of what she didn't hear. She didn't hear Charlie's faint coughing or soft breathing, sounds she had grown accustomed to hearing when she entered the room. She rushed to the crib and found it empty. Hoping her mind was playing tricks, she padded the bedding, but Charlie was nowhere to be found. Betty started to panic, but she tried to remain composed as she hurried to Ann Lindbergh. Maybe Ann or Charles had collected the boy while Betty was talking to Elsie Whately.
18:45 Speaker 01 But Ann confirmed she hadn't visited Charlie. She said to check with Charles in the study. Betty dashed to the study and asked Charles Lindbergh if he had taken the boy. The Colonel responded, "The baby? He's not in his crib." Betty's panic was now full and loud. Charles bolted up the stairs, charged into the nursery, and scanned the room for his son. He saw no sign of Charlie. Downstairs, Ann started to search the house. She clung to a sliver of hope that the whole thing was a poorly timed practical joke by her husband. It would not have been the first time the Colonel played such a prank. But when Ann confronted Charles and demanded answers, he had nothing. He was visibly shaken.
19:29 Speaker 01 He grabbed his rifle and moved to the front door. Before he ran out to his car, he looked back at his wife and said, "Ann, they've stolen our baby."
19:43 Speaker 01 The narrow dirt road became treacherous with each passing minute. It was obscured by relentless rain and swirling fog. Charles Lindbergh drove cautiously as his headlights tried to slice through the gloom. He searched for any glimpse of his missing son, but the task was proving impossible. In the house, Ann, Betty, Elsie, and Oliver scoured every corner of every room and found nothing.
20:10 Speaker 01 When Charles returned, hope had evaporated. The boy was gone. With no other options, the Colonel called the police, and the group headed back to the nursery. This time they weren't looking for Charlie, they were searching for clues. There were smudges of mud, which were probably footprints that led to an open window. On the windowsill, they found an envelope, but its contents would remain a mystery until the police arrived. At about 10:30 PM, the New Jersey State Police converged on the Lindbergh estate. Philadelphia and New York were the closest major cities, and their police forces also mobilized. They set up roadblocks at every key intersection and bridge.
20:54 Speaker 01 At the Lindbergh house, officers carefully opened the envelope to preserve any fingerprints. Inside was a handwritten ransom note demanding fifty thousand dollars for Charlie's safe return. The instructions were brief. They promised further guidance within two to four days, and warned the Lindberghs not to involve the police or speak to anyone. The warning was moot, the authorities were already on the scene, and the magnitude of the case had made silence impossible. By midnight, headlines raced across radio waves and down the news wires. Within hours, the whole world knew the Lindbergh baby had been kidnapped.
21:42 Speaker 01 The ransom note confirmed their fears, though it also gave them a sliver of hope. Charlie was taken, but he might still be alive. Since the financial devastation of the Great Depression, kidnappings for ransom targeting wealthy families were on the rise. So if this was about money, the Lindberghs could pay. But time was against them. The police scrambled to gather evidence, though they were hindered by a chaotic scene. Crowds of press and officers trampled the area and contaminated potential leads. Still, every effort was made to piece together a trail. Notably, there were no bloodstains or fingerprints, not even around the crib. It was as if the room had been wiped clean.
22:26 Speaker 01 The only physical clues were the smudges of muddy footprints which led to Charlie's window. Outside, on the ground, Charles Lindbergh and officers found a muddy trail left by the kidnapper. Rain blurred any detail, but the group followed the splotches until they hit the nearest road. Then the tracks disappeared. At that point, the kidnapper must have had a car waiting. As the searchers made their way back to the house, they focused on the area below Charlie's window. Something caught an officer's eye in the nearby bushes. He discovered a makeshift wooden ladder which had been broken into two pieces. It was crudely built, but immediately significant.
23:09 Speaker 01 Suddenly, a memory clicked into place for Lindbergh. He recalled hearing a snapping sound earlier, but dismissed it at the time as a tree branch breaking in the storm. But it wasn't. The weather's getting colder, and maybe some thoughts are starting to drift in the direction of holiday gifts. Even if you're not there yet, it's still time for sweatshirts and hoodies, in most places, which I wear almost every day while I'm working. My newest purchase from Quince is the Flowknit Performance Hybrid Pullover Hoodie. It's a long name, but it's ultra-soft, lightweight, and amazingly affordable. Three big retailers are charging $118 to $158 for the hoodie. At Quince, it's $45.
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24:37 Speaker 01 Its craftsmanship suggested the kidnapper might have knowledge of construction or woodworking. If the nails and tools used to build it could be determined, that might help identify the builder. The builder might be the kidnapper, or at least connected to the kidnapper.
24:54 Speaker 01 The ladder wasn't much, but it was the only tangible lead at the moment, though it raised a host of questions. Assuming the kidnapper was a man, how did he know he would need a ladder? How did he know which room was the nursery? How did he know the exact height he needed for the ladder? And worse, how did he know one of Charlie's windows couldn't be locked because of warped wood? It seemed unlikely he would attempt the kidnapping if he had to smash a window to get into the nursery. That would bring the whole house running. Furthermore, how did he know the family was still at the house? They had only been delayed in their return to the Morrow mansion because of Charlie's cold. Did he have inside knowledge of the family's plans? How many kidnappers were there?
25:39 Speaker 01 The ransom note made it seem like multiple people were involved, but there was no way to know how many. Were there two? The person who abducted Charlie and the getaway driver? Were there more than two? Was it a vast criminal conspiracy? Or just the work of one desperate person who insinuated there were multiple people involved as a way to confuse the investigators? At the moment, no one knew, and the net of suspicion tightened. The Lindbergs hadn't fully moved into the house. Only a few select people knew the layout of the home and the family's last-minute schedule changes. As the interview started, everyone was a suspect.
26:23 Speaker 01 Detectives questioned anyone who was remotely connected to the family, and they interviewed neighbors within a four-to-five-mile radius. Among the responses, a neighbor mentioned spotting a suspicious green car the day before the kidnapping. According to the neighbor, the car didn't belong in the area. The car had also agitated the Lindbergh's dog, which barked furiously as the car passed. The clue stuck with investigators and became a key focal point as they began to dig deeper. The initial rounds of questioning turned up unsettling leads close to the family. Betty Gow, the Lindbergh's nanny, was of particular interest. She knew every aspect of baby Charlie's routine and everything about the house.
27:08 Speaker 01 Her caregiving style had clashed with Charles Lindbergh's strict parenting methods, and she was the last known person to see Charlie that night. It seemed unthinkable that she would harm the child, but it was a possibility the investigators couldn't ignore. Attention then turned to Betty's boyfriend, Henrik Johnson. Anything Betty knew, Johnson likely knew as well. He was aware that the Lindberghs had decided to stay an extra night at the Hopewell Estate. He also owned a green car. When police searched the vehicle, they found an empty milk bottle in the backseat, which they thought could have been used to feed Charlie after the kidnapping.
27:48 Speaker 01 But Johnson had no criminal history, nor any discernible motive to commit the crime. Next, there was Violet Sharp, a woman who worked at the Morrow Mansion, the home of Ann Lindbergh's mother. Like Betty, Violet knew the patterns of the family's movements. During interviews, Violet appeared anxious, and her story shifted with each telling. Though her specific connection to the crime was unclear, her nervous behavior kept her under investigators' scrutiny. And then a very unexpected suspect emerged, one who essentially volunteered himself: Al Capone.
28:33 Speaker 01 The day after the kidnapping, Al Capone made a public announcement offering $10,000 for any information that led to the child's recovery. He claimed his own experience as a father made him sympathetic to the Lindbergs. When his initial offer was ignored, he doubled down, eventually pledging $200,000 in bail money if he could be released to personally assist in the manhunt. “If I were out of jail, I could be of real assistance,” Capone told an L.A. Times reporter. “I have friends all over the country who could aid in running this thing down.” Capone was in jail because he had been convicted the previous year on charges of tax evasion
29:15 Speaker 01 after a multi-agency task force finally found a way to take down the legendary Chicago mobster. In March of 1932, Capone was two months away from beginning an 11-year sentence in federal prison, and his offer created a whirlwind of speculation. Theories were split. Capone may have orchestrated the kidnapping as a way to secure his freedom. His vast criminal network certainly gave him the ability to organize while behind bars. But if he wasn’t the mastermind, his connections could be valuable in the search for the real kidnappers. As crazy as it might sound, the matter grew so serious that it fell to the United States Senate to make a decision.
29:58 Speaker 01 Even for a case that had been dubbed “the crime of the century,” the Senate thought Capone’s offer was too suspicious to trust, and his bail was denied. The investigation continued, and it became more puzzling with each day. The most curious addition was a 72-year-old retired school principal and gym teacher. His name was Dr. John Condon, and he placed an ad in a local newspaper offering to act as a mediator between the Lindbergs and the kidnappers. He used the alias “Jafsi” in his ad, and his uninvited offer raised eyebrows. Why would an outsider insert himself into the case?
30:39 Speaker 01 Was Condon genuinely trying to help, or was he seeking fame under the guise of heroism? But when the kidnappers responded to Condon's ad, the police were forced to take him seriously. The kidnappers sent a letter to Condon, and it contained a critical detail. The ransom note at the Lindbergh house had featured the symbol of two interlocking circles as a part of the signature. The police had been extremely careful to keep the details secret, and now the letter to Condon featured the same symbol. The note's authenticity was confirmed, and with the Lindberghs' cautious approval, Dr. Condon stepped into the role of intermediary.
31:21 Speaker 01 Between March 1st and March 9th, three more ransom notes arrived before negotiations commenced with Condon as the go-between. What began as a $50,000 demand escalated to $70,000. The kidnappers justified the increase by claiming the heightened police attention had forced them to lay low and lengthen Charlie's captivity, and it potentially required adding another accomplice. Adjusted for inflation, the new ransom equated to $1.3 million in today's money. But the Lindberghs had the money, and as the days continued to pass, they believed they had no other option but to pay the ransom.
32:06 Speaker 01 On March 12th, 1932, the fifth ransom note arrived. It was addressed to Dr. Condon, and it was delivered by a taxi driver named Joseph Perron. He claimed a stranger gave it to him with instructions for delivery. The note set Condon on a scavenger hunt. Following the directions, Condon eventually uncovered a sixth ransom note, which was hidden under a stone near a subway station. The note ordered Condon to go to Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx to discuss the next steps. When Condon arrived, he had his first face-to-face meeting with a person who was connected to the kidnapping.
32:46 Speaker 01 Dr. Condon met a man who called himself John, and John said he had baby Charlie. Condon was naturally suspicious, and he demanded proof that John had the Lindbergh baby before they could proceed with ransom negotiations. Four days later, on March 16th, the Lindberghs received a sleeping suit which belonged to their son. But instead of signaling an end to the ordeal, the proof signaled a new phase. More notes followed. They alternated between promising that Charlie was being "well cared for" and accusing Charles Lindbergh of delaying the process. Frustration escalated on both sides. The ransom demand climbed to $100,000.
33:30 Speaker 01 The kidnappers claimed Lindbergh's hesitance was wasting time and allowing misinformation to derail the outcome. But the kidnappers, though agitated, signaled their readiness to negotiate. Another note arrived via a different taxi driver. That one sent Dr. Condon to a stone near a greenhouse in the Bronx. There, he found instructions detailing the time and place to hand over the ransom. Before complying, the two sides entered one final negotiation and agreed to reduce the ransom back to $50,000.
34:09 Speaker 01 On April 2nd, 1932, one month after the nightmare began, Dr. Condon and Charles Lindbergh went to another cemetery to meet the mysterious figure who called himself John. Lindbergh waited some distance away while Condon met John and handed over the money, though the money wasn't entirely in the form of cash. Most of the ransom was paid in gold certificates, which had certain dollar values attached to them. It was a fading form of currency at the time, but they could still be used like cash. And with the ransom in hand, John gave Condon a note with directions to baby Charlie's location.
34:50 Speaker 01 As John disappeared into the woods around the cemetery, Condon alerted the authorities to head to Massachusetts. The directions were painfully vague. They said the boy was on a 28-foot boat called the Nellie near Elizabeth Island, which was one of a series of tiny islands between the Massachusetts coastline and the popular island of Martha's Vineyard. Investigators decided to scour the entire region, and they found nothing: no boat named Nellie and no Lindbergh baby. And now that the kidnappers had $50,000, they also had no further reason to communicate. But Charlie's team wasn't giving up. A total of 13 ransom notes had been delivered during the month-long
35:34 Speaker 01 series of bizarre communications. The handwriting was consistent, and Dr. Condon had met a man called John twice. Condon provided a physical description for a police sketch, and he believed he would recognize the kidnapper's appearance, voice, dialect, and mannerisms if apprehended. New Jersey authorities offered a $25,000 reward for information which might lead to the capture of John. Thousands of tips poured in, but most led to dead ends. At that point, investigators had just one viable lead they could follow: the ransom money. The money could be tracked, especially the gold certificates. It was complicated, but possible.
36:19 Speaker 01 The Lindbergh family was forced to endure an agonizing 18 months before the money trail finally paid off.
36:42 Speaker 01 Next time on Infamous America, the Lindbergh family discovers the fate of little Charlie, and investigators follow the ransom money to a man they label "the kidnapper." The man faces a sensational trial and a media frenzy, and serious questions about his possible guilt. That's next week on the second half of the story of the Lindbergh kidnapping, here on Infamous America.
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