Patrick Bet-David: Is the American Dream Dead? Trump’s Turbulent Six Months, Elon’s America Party & Gen Z’s Shift to Socialism

Tom Bilyeu welcomes entrepreneur and media powerhouse Patrick Bet-David, founder of Valuetainment, for a masterclass on leadership, politics, and the high-stakes challenges currently facing America. Together, Tom and Patrick dive into a rapid-fire analysis of Donald Trump’s performance as president, dissecting his leadership style as a project manager and the enormous complexity of running multiple high-impact agendas at once. The pair examine where Trump excels, where his administration fumbled—most notably the Epstein scandal—and how the media narrative profoundly shapes public opinion. This jam-packed first half delves into international challenges with China, trade negotiations, and the difficulties of moving public policy quickly in a hyper-scrutinized environment. Patrick shares candid perspectives on which advisors are moving the needle, why tariffs matter, and how Elon Musk’s long-game may disrupt American party politics. SHOWNOTES 00:00 Trump’s Performance and Project Management 05:08 How Trump Processes Criticism and Makes Adjustments 15:15 Blackmail, Political Power, and the Epstein Scandal’s Fallout 19:16 Mishandling Political Expectations and Leadership Under Pressure 20:40 The Overwhelming Demands on Executive Leadership FOLLOW PATRICK BET-DAVID Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/patrickbetdavid YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code IMPACT at check out SKIMS: Shop SKIMS Mens at ⁠https://www.skims.com/impact⁠ https://www.skims.com/impact #skimspartner Allio Capital: Macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. Download their app in the App Store or at Google Play, or text my name “TOM” to 511511. SleepMe: Visit ⁠https://sleep.me/impact⁠ https://sleep.me/impact to get your Chilipad and save 20% with code IMPACT. Try it risk-free with their 30-night sleep trial and free shipping. Jerry: Stop needlessly overpaying for car insurance - download the Jerry app or head to ⁠https://jerry.ai/impact⁠ https://jerry.ai/impact Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/impact⁠ https://shopify.com/impact CashApp: Download Cash App Today: ⁠https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/v6nymgjl⁠ https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/v6nymgjl #CashAppPod iRestore: For a limited time only, our listeners are getting a HUGE discount on the iRestore Elite when you use code IMPACT at ⁠https://irestore.com/impact⁠ https://irestore.com/impact What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:⁠ join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:⁠ see if you qualify here.⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:⁠ sign up here.⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,⁠ Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:⁠ apple.co/impacttheory⁠ http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:29Speaker 01

  Okay, so here's what Trump's done, which is both admirable, and it is the reason why they had the biggest fumble they've had thus far. And it's not big, it's massive. So, Trump, as a project manager, you know, typically if you measure a great project manager, maybe they can manage five to seven projects at the same time. Deadline, hey, boom, map it out, okay. By December 31st, we need this, by January 7th, we need this, by, you know, February 17th, we need this, and da-da-da-da-da, and just kinda goes, if you've done it before, you've seen it, you've seen it probably a million times. And, and, and now, bring you to a small business, that's still in 5 to 20 million a year, maybe 100 million a year.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Now go, how many projects are they managing? Tariffs with 150-plus countries, that they're managing, all the negotiation. What's the bandwidth of Latnik to do it, Besen to do it? Oh my God, travel, all the deals that they're doing. Then you have DHS, then you have, uh, uh, HHS, then you have, what, CIA trying to clean the house with what's going on there, then you have Bongino, then you have Cash Patel, then you have Pam Bondi, then you have Borders, then you have Tom Homan, then you have, you know, ICE, then you wanna deport all these guys, and the numbers you're trying to do, and how tough it is to do that. Then you're trying to pass the big beautiful bill, then you're trying to do Doge, then you're trying to get all these guys that are coming, then you're trying, he has so many things that they're hitting at the same time.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  He's trying to do in six months, what two presidents do in four administrations, meaning, in two terms each, 16 years. They've been trying to do that in six, six months. So, high level of admiration, to take on that much. What's the problem with that? When you try to go at that pace, you can't get everybody to communicate with each other to be on the same page when you go publicly, okay? Uh, border crossings, lowest it's been record-breaking, safer, okay? But all the people that are in, trying to get rid of them, you see what's going on with publicity on TV. ICE is this unfair, look what they're doing, all the crying videos, the average person sits there and melts, and even if they voted for it, like, oh my God, I don't wanna see

• 3:41Speaker 01

  that, I can't, what a cold-hearted administration that they have, so easy for media to run with that. And he told you, my number one is immigration, I'm gonna be doing this, right? Russia, oh, peace on day one, that didn't happen, Putin's not working with them, so that's very difficult, on what's going on with him and Putin, and he's just calling out Putin. Zelensky took a minute to get the minerals deal, and right now, they're still, the other day, he announced that they're gonna give him weapons to fight against Russia, cuz people are dying. Israel, Iran, that one week, that was the first time I ever sensed an element of hesitancy and weakness from the president, while he walked up with JD Vance and Rubio, and I think it was Hexet. While he came up and he says, "We just dropped this and our B2, uh, B52, uh,

• 4:26Speaker 01

  uh, they're, they're on the way back when they had gone from misery the other way to confuse everybody." But you could tell, you know, "May, may, may God, may God bless us and may God..." And you heard his voice crack. I've never seen his voice crack. You can tell. That's probably the moment where I had the highest level of pressure as a leader. I watched him very closely over and over and over again. And then you have this Epstein thing, which Epstein to me is probably the number one issue for MAGA voters on X. It's not the number one issue for MAGA voters or Trump supporters, but it's the number one issue or the top three issue for MAGA voters on X, Epstein. The way they fumbled that is embarrassing. Whether Pam Bondi getting up there, "Oh, my God, let me tell

• 5:11Speaker 01

  you what we found." And then Bongino, rumor has it, he may be stepping down because he's having problems working with, literally, the word just came out a couple hours before you and I went live and I walked into the meeting with you. And yeah, Bongino may be stepping down. Interesting. Yeah, so. Is there any reason why? I, I don't know. I'm sure we'll find out the story of it, but this was a, uh, reports are a rift between Bongino and Pam Bondi three hours ago. Uh-oh. So who knows whether this is true or not, but it's trending, okay? People are saying major respect if Bongino actually steps down from the FBI for the handling of Epstein files. I kind of agree because it's been very, very bad. It's been embarrassing. You can't tell us all these decades, we've had documentation on this guy, and now you want to tell us that, "No, nothing happened."

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Sorry, just kidding. I'm sorry, bro. You can't do that. So the level of mishandling of that, and then today they came out and they said, "Out of the 300,000 children that were missing, President Trump just announced two hours ago that they found 10,000 of the kids. They still 290 left." So they're trying to kind of find a way to, you know, really make up for... And, and the one thing I know about President Trump for a fact, you know who he is? My opinion, Tom. He's a guy that watches everything.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  You know how there's a guy that's like, doesn't watch everything, it's like, "Oh, what happened?" "Oh, okay." This guy watches everything. He watches CNN, he watches Fox, he watches CBS, he watches ABC, he watches podcasts, he watches X. He watches everything. And the way he works is, my opinion,

• 6:47Speaker 01

  he watches, and he says, "Oh, that guy's full of shit." "Yeah, well, he'll attack him." Because it's just defamation and negativity and... And then he'll watch this guy, and he watches this guy, and he says, "No, that guy's very fair and reasonable." "Why is he saying this?" So the three people I respect the most that seem to be the most reasonable disagree with me. We effed up. "Hey, guys." Boom. Adjust, immediately. That's how he goes. And here's what happened. This is the reality of it. This is gonna pass in the next two to four weeks, six weeks. There's gonna be a mass cypemony with tariffs with China or India. The tariffs revenue's gonna go from a hundred billion to two hundred billion to three hundred billion.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Unemployment's gonna go down, income's gonna go up, market's gonna go up, S and P's gonna go up. Next year's gonna be the 250 year anniversary. World Cup's gonna be here, and next year's gonna turn 80 years old, and everyone's gonna move on. But with the Epstein thing? I think he lost 2%. Permanently lost 2%. Not 20%, temporarily he lost 20%, that 20%, 18 of it will come back. 2% is not coming back. That was a very bad mishandling of things that they did. So, if I give him a score right now for the first six months, it's a B, it was a C minus, uh, six weeks ago, eight weeks ago, it's a B right now. But that A, that B can be an A minus, A, you know, in no time if this China tariff gets locked in, if this India tariff gets locked in,

• 8:15Speaker 01

  if the Panama Canal, which is very important to me, gets locked in. If the tariff gets locked in, or if we come to some sort of deal? Trade agreement with China, and the main one is China. It's China and India, it's really the main ones. I'm interested in everything else just for show. But, uh, if he's able to do that and increase revenue for us... Give me a break. It's a big victory.

• 8:34Tom Bilyeu?

  What do you think the odds are? I've heard so many like Chinese official accounts being like, guys, listen, we are not giving you the time of day. You don't know how to handle us. You think we're weaker than we are. We've been migrating away from the US for years. This just isn't a big problem for us.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, yes, so to them, they're long-term thinkers and they're only thinking three and a half more years. What's it to us? China, you know, we do 40-year business plan. America does four years. Who gives a shit? Let them, he's gonna be out, then we're gonna have to deal with Vance or, you know, Newsom or Spritzker or whoever's gonna be the next guy that's gonna come in, right? That's how they look at it. But if there is ever been a BMF that knows how to play the dark game of negotiation and be nasty, it's him. What levers does he have right now? I don't know. I don't know what the levers are. I don't know if Taiwan is a big enough of a lever. I don't know if getting the minerals deal from outside is a big enough of a lever.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  I don't know if Apple leaving and making 60 million iPhones in India instead of China is a big enough of a lever. I don't know what's the big enough of a lever to move them. But he needs some levers. That's why, to us, Panama Canal is very important, very. Because right now CK Hutchinson owns it and that's a Chinese-based company. And there's no way they're gonna let them sell that to us. The main ports, there's two ports that we gotta get. There's no way they're gonna, if they do, I think that's a very bad move on China's end. I hope they do. I hope they don't watch this podcast. I hope they're not watching what we're talking about. Because if we get that, that, that changes the game on this side. Because we now have control. So that's a lever. I don't know how many levers America has, except for the fact that we're a great customer. What other levers do we have? Manufacturing? No.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  What levers do we have? Strong dollar? Yes. It's not getting that much stronger like we have the BRICS the other days announcing that they're coming together. So Trump is thinking about adding additional tariffs. He already announced a couple of them. All I'm thinking about is the levers. But I trust one guy, to me is the MVP, that I'm loving this guy. My favorite guy so far in the entire ministry is Scott Besant. I'm a big fan of Besant. Besant is a...

• 10:51Speaker 01

  Whatever happened with him and Musk, I don't know what happened. Everything we say is speculation. Only five, 10 people know what happened when we're in the room. But something happened. You don't get a black eye like that accidentally.

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• 13:27Speaker 01

  But Bessent

• 13:30Speaker 01

  may end up replacing Jerome Powell. Bessent may be the guy that can do the deal with China because remember what Bessent's background is. This is the one thing most people don't know about. You know what Bessent did before he became, he used to be with Soros.

• 13:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  And he worked for Soros.

• 13:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Back of the Bank of England.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  That's right. And he worked there, left, came back, became the chief investment officer of Soros. And who does Soros do business with? A lot of countries. So Bessent has already been trained how to do that and he knows culture. If you see how Bessent speak, Bessent speaks like this. Latnik speaks like a salesperson. Have you heard how Latnik speaks?

• 14:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  He speaks like a funny, exciting. But Bessent.

• 14:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Why do you think they've sidelined him? He's gone, like poof, gone. Haven't seen him in ages.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Look, man, when you have a job like that, you have to realize. You can't be, my opinion, you can't be bragging about things getting done that you're doing it. Even a smaller circles, you can't do it. You can't do it. To me, I get a feeling. He is extremely ambitious himself. He's three and a half billionaire guy. You don't become a three and a half billionaire guy without. But Bessent is the right player right now that he doesn't need it. And if I'm Trump.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Bessent is more useful publicly than Latnik is today. Latnik was useful when we were campaigning to win. Bessent wasn't useful then. Bessent is useful in now because we're in. So I needed somebody that was marketing in June of last year, August of last year. Bessent wasn't marketing. Bessent didn't win any votes. But Bessent's winning votes today in a big way.

• 15:15Tom Bilyeu?

  No, I agree.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:17Tom Bilyeu?

  When you think about that 2%, the Trump loss with the fumble, do you think that goes to Elon's America party?

• 15:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure.

• 15:25Tom Bilyeu?

  How do you think the American party is gonna play out? Is it gonna be a spoiler? Or is there really something there?

• 15:29Speaker 01

  You know what's Elon Musk's most important tweet that nobody looked at? Most important tweet, tweet that everybody, it only got 16,000 likes. It's maybe the most important tweet he's ever tweeted out, ever.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 15:46Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm literally in suspense.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Bro, ever, ever.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  I'll show you. So, Gabe Gutierrez put something at the top. Elon Musk messaged GOP lawmakers considering whether to side with real Trump or Elon Musk. And Elon Musk put this tweet. Trump has three and a half years left as a president. But I will be, I will be around for 40 plus years.

• 16:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  There has never been a more powerful tweet by Elon Musk than this. He revealed his hand. He should have never tweeted that out. You know what he showed? He showed, okay, make fun of me, say whatever you want, talk shit about me. I'm worth $360 billion. And Monday, when Tesla lost $80 billion, $70, $80 billion in a day, Elon only lost $15 billion. $15 billion, maybe a lot of money to a lot of people. Not to a guy that was worth $375 billion. And now he's worth $360 billion. And he's got a few hundred million followers. He ain't going away. There's certain people in life that when you offend, you have to know it's a permanent offense. It's not a six year, six month sentence.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  It's not a 12 month sentence. It's not a 36 month sentence. You offended the guy that's a permanent life sentence. He's coming for your throat. And he's never gonna slow down.

• 17:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  That's Musk. So I think Musk, you know, for him to create a third party, there's only one thing Musk has that drives him insane. And here's what the problem he has, my opinion, is... So he starts America Party. When's the last time somebody at that level started America Party, you know, a kind of part of their own party that did well? Forget Andrew Yang, good guy, but obviously he doesn't have that kind of influence. Ross Perot, ninety-two he runs for to be president, he's the reason why George Bush Senior doesn't get re-elected for a second term, he didn't want to talk about him in his documentary. He was at eighteen point seven percent. Three years later, he starts a party called the Reform Party. Then he runs again in ninety-six. In ninety-two, as he's running it as an independent, he got eighteen point seven percent.

• 17:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  But in ninety-six, when he ran as Reform, he only got eight point four percent. And then Reform, Patrick Buchanan, there was a following up, no one's ever talked about the Reform Party. It's gone, right? Yeah, he needs this many signatures with this state, with that state, with this state. I'm gonna start off with Senate and Congress and all this stuff. Maybe later on we'll consider somebody as a president. Okay, great. You spent two hundred and seventy million dollars, you helped Trump get elected and you helped Pennsylvania. No problem. Whoever you choose as a president, how the hell are you sure that they're gonna do everything they told you they're gonna do? What do they owe you? Nothing. The only way to be a real puppet master, Tom, is you have to have blackmail on the individual. So the only thing Musk can really do to control the candidate that's gonna do a hundred percent

• 18:37Speaker 01

  of what he wants him to do, is he can only choose people that he has dark blackmail shit on them. Cause he can never be President of America based on the current laws. That's Elon Musk. That's his biggest hurdle. So that's probably driving him insane. Hate to say it, his business model, if he really wants to become the puppet master that he wants to become, he needs people that have blackmail.

• 19:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Yikes.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Speaking of blackmail, do you have a take on the Epstein file? Like what's going on? Is somebody on it? Is it being used?

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, look, if, when, when you become a person that's working in the CIA or you go and work in the government or you're high-level military type of people, you think you do everything by the books? You think the movie, as great of a scene as it is in, you know, A Few Good Men, you think, you know, you wanna know the truth, you know, Code Red? You don't think Code Reds exist in the CIA? You don't think Code Reds exist in the FBI? Maybe not Code Red, maybe it's a different name that they call it, right? You don't think that kind of stuff happens? You, you, you don't think any of that stuff happened, had a CIA agent, the guy that got... Arrested and he was indicted, FBI went after him. He was the first whistleblower that came out and talked about the waterboarding program that they had,

• 19:54Speaker 01

  John Kiraku, and he did 23 months in jail. He was on the podcast this Wednesday, we had him on. And he said, when the Mossad agents would come to CIA, they would always give us gifts. And we would tell him, why are you bringing gifts? He says, every time they give us gifts, they were always bugged. Every gift, every, he says, every Mossad agent ever came to us, they always came with a gift. And we would open a gift for like, what are you doing? We know you're trying to bug us. Well, we thought we'd get away with it. So think about the natural, when intel works with intel. Yeah. MI6 comes, hey, that's a nice iPad. Boom. Something you'll never see, neither listen to your conversation. Hey, you don't think this kind of stuff happens? So they all have stuff on each other. So I think they're all so guilty by having so much shit on each other,

• 20:39Speaker 01

  that I think all the intel agencies are one intel agency. They're like, oh, really? Oh, you want to release that? Oh, guys. He wanted someone to release the Epstein stuff. This guy's so funny. Hang on, let me call him MI6. You will not believe what Pam just said. That digger Cash just said on a podcast, go ahead and release it, buddy. Go ahead. Let me show you. Boom. They're all on the same team. Hmm. Once you have dirt on me, I have dirt on you. And both of us know the dirt on each other. Today, it's so funny, a guy came in, was my biggest enemy in insurance. For a good five years. We're not such good friends, it's so funny. But we wanted to kill each other for five years. And when I tell you kill each other, like we would.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Everybody knew if we're in the same room, we're probably gonna fight. Okay? And he's here, you know. I'm telling the story, I said, you remember that one time you did that? This is what I do, I said, don't, don't freaking bullshit me now. And he starts laughing his ass off. I'm like, that was dirty, but I know why you did it. I said, do you remember this? And we're going back and forth with the story, we're laughing our asses off, right? Now that, listen, he's a multi nine-figure guy, he sold his business, did very well, and I'm doing good as well. But. As you move up and you get to certain levels, no one's innocent in government. Relax. There is the TV stuff and all this podcast, people like us, we give our own opinions as if we know what the hell is going on and

• 22:07Speaker 01

  we act all our audience like, oh my God, I like what these and then there's a legit shit that happens. Yeah, of course they're holding people hostage. Of course they have intel on each other. Of course they have intel on some of the biggest world leaders. Of course they have intel on some of the biggest billionaires. Of course they have intel on some of the most interesting people in every single, you think they're gonna give that, oh, Diddy's gonna go to jail. No, he's not. I said he's gonna be OJ Simpson. Way before he became OJ, I said on the podcast a while back, he ain't going nowhere. You know, all those things that he has, who's gonna let those guys go down? Who? Endeavor? WME? CAA? Who? No. They're gonna let those eighteen billion dollars of revenue and sponsorship and

• 22:52Speaker 01

  no, they're not gonna let that go away. No way. It's a lot of people that are being affected by it. No. But this, this was a fumble. It's a massive fumble. And they could have released it in a different way. And some of us who, you know, we understand how nasty things can be on the inside. We would say like, okay, that's probably what they're doing. But at least don't come out and say, oh, wait till you see what we're gonna drop. Oh, wait till you see it. Oh my God, it's, oh my God, they're gonna release it. Oh, no, no, no. So wait till, oh, there's nothing. We're not

• 23:22Speaker 01

  It's like you're hanging out with your girl or your wife. You foreplay fourteen, fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty minutes and like, all right, I'm gonna go watch a movie. What happens when you do that sexually with your partner? In the middle of you're about to start getting into action, I'm gonna go watch Netflix. Babe, what are you talking about? That's it. I just wanted to foreplay.

• 23:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, even worse, they were like, you should go out with me because I'm gonna be so good in that moment. It's gonna be incredible. And then you go watch Netflix. Yeah, it was literally absurd.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  Shit show. But as a leader who's a street guy, who understands that the process of making sausage, you know this, it's nasty. Right? It's nasty. So even yesterday, when you were talking about when you guys are building Quest, Questing like, yeah, you know, most people think I'm a nice guy about to run the company in the streets and what that, what we had to do and blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, startup mentality is can't describe it. Some, you either experienced startup mentality or you haven't. These guys are trying to do 600 projects at the same time, Tom. Think about the amount of stress they have working there. Like, when's the last time he saw his grandkids? When's the last time he went to dinner with... Imagine you're one of the guys working for him.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  You're like, "Rohde, when are you gonna come see the kids? The kid, you know, such and such had a breakup. He just had this. His girlfriend did this. His wife, you know, your granddaughter just did this. Oh, my God, babe, I'm in, I'm in Israel. Oh, my God, I'm in Ukraine." Who wants that life? It's a very chaotic life, and they have a lot of pressure right now, a lot.

• 24:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, no doubt. What do you think is the most dangerous idea that's gaining traction in culture if what we want is a prosperous America?

• 25:01Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, you look at the financial capital of the world, New York City, okay? New York is known for having the most popular US team that people know around the world, Yankees. New York is known for a certain level of pride, swagger, capitalism, the most billionaires, they got 123 billionaires. Uh, big city, lots of pride, high-rise, so much history. You know, all of that combined together. Now, the leading mayoral candidate is a 33-year-old, 34-year-old man, uh, Zohran Mamdani, who is right now leading New York City for the mayoral race. He's at number one right now with 34%. Number two is Cuomo, who he beat on the Democratic side, but he hasn't dropped out yet. Then you have, uh, Chris at third, Republican candidate,

• 25:45Speaker 01

  and the existing mayor right now is at 11%. The messaging that's resonating with the audience that is wanting to vote for someone like that to win is a man who has been said on video that his goal is to seize the means of production, the seizing of... "To seize the means of production" was only written by an economist named Karl Marx, who... That was his messaging, right? And you're not only saying that in a city like Chaz, Oregon, you're not saying that in Chicago. You're not, you're saying that in New York City. This is like the Mecca of business and capitalism. But he's getting traction. Why is that?

• 26:26Speaker 01

  So then when you look at on some of the positions he's taken for cops where he said, you know, five years ago, you know, cops are the equivalent of, you know, the most racist people that we have in America and we need to defund them and this is enough. And you look at New York City back in 2000 compared to today. In 2000, New York City had 40,000 full-time NYPD police officers. Today they're at 32,000. So it's dropped by 20%. The population has increased by 500,000 in the last 25 years. So you have a bigger population, but you've lost cops by 20%. It's not as safe as it used to be in the past before. And then you're getting somebody that's coming in that's against it.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  At the same time, while they have a record break in most NYPD has just announced they're retiring this year compared to last year. 1,555 are retiring and they're just calling it quits. I'm out of here. Last year was 1,069. So it went from 1,069 last year, give or take, to 1,555 this year. And so these ideas that you look at. And we never think it's going to happen to a city like New York. If you go back 80 years ago, 70 years ago, Detroit was where the richest people in the world lived. Per capita was known as the richest, if not top three. And nobody thought anything was going to happen to Detroit. Bad policies destroyed the entire place. So I think when you get a guy that's pitching socialism, communism in a capital of capitalism,

• 27:49Speaker 01

  and it's resonating where they want him to be, possibly the mayor of the town, you have to be paying very close attention to this concept of new generation that's coming up, the new kids that are coming up. We had this conversation last night about Gen Z's maybe a little bit tougher where they can kind of do something about it. But for me, it's amazing that after all these decades of us seeing that communism doesn't work, socialism doesn't work, that idea is resonating now in the number one city with the most capitalist billionaires. Very weird.

• 28:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Very weird. Why do you think this moment makes probably mostly millennials open to the idea?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Um, you know, it's, it's, it's a, it's a love affair. It's a romance. It's the idea where, you know, when I was a kid, my parents got a divorce. I'll never forget that every night I would see at eight fifteen, my dad would walk up per stairs. And I knew he was there. So I, I romanticize with my mother and my father being together. Okay? And it's this idea of, oh my God, one day again, they can be married together. You know, every year as a boy, I was like, no, this is gonna be the year they're gonna come together. No, they're gonna come together. No, they're gonna come together. And you're like, is that even a good idea? I don't think it is. I don't think it's a good idea for this to be taking place. And this young girl who went viral last week, who used to be a staffer for AOC that helped AOC win.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  When she was twenty-six, she's now thirty-three, thirty-four years old. She says this fantasy of being able to help people out and these rich people are bad people. And she starts breaking things down, saying if there's no incentive, why would somebody keep making the apartments better? If there's no incentive, why would somebody make the place better? Like I'm asking a question for New York City. Do you know in New York City how long it takes to get a permit? Two to five years to get a permit. It's the worst city to get permits. So imagine if you and I want to build a building and we have some money we want to deploy. And we want to get, get out there and finish a project. You're sitting there waiting eighteen months on a permit, twenty-four months on a permit. The permits needs to go. One of the biggest, most important qualities of a city that expands like Austin permits goes like this.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  Houston is six months. Austin is six to twelve months. New York is two years to five years. That's insane. So when, when you watch some of these ideas and the newer generation, the younger, you know, I think we're gonna do it better. I think we're gonna do it right. And then it takes five to ten years to see what happens there. But for me with New York, that's kind of confusing. Is after COVID that happened. Two cities, two states, lost the most money.

• 30:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Hmm.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  And we know this number, you and I have talked about this. New York lost a trillion dollars of wealth under management.

• 30:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Good lord.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  California lost a trillion dollars. Californians went to Texas. New Yorkers went to Florida. Okay? And now in Florida, when we're running into a bunch of different people, these are New Yorkers. So a lot of those job creators that left phase one, they left to come down here. If this guy gets elected in, in, in, uh, in, uh, New York, Ryan Serhant, who is one of the bigger realtors, you know, the guy that sells a hundred, 200 million dollar homes. He says, "The moment the momentum was announced that he beat, uh, he beat Cuomo, all my clients are calling me telling me we're either moving to the Hamptons."

• 30:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  "Or we'll move into Miami or Florida. Look for a house for us."

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• 32:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. So to me, when I look at this, it is an echo of the economy. When people, they can feel that something is wrong, but they don't know what the physics of money are. So they have no idea how the economy has left them in this situation. But if they can't afford housing and inflation is robbing them of their buying power, and so many of them have gone into a tremendous amount of college debt. I get how we end up here, but there is a quote that always scares me that this generation does not understand, which is that the miracle is not redistribution. The miracle is the creating of the capital. And I think it was Musk that said, "Once you realize that a successful company is a company

• 32:57Tom Bilyeu?

  that can create something that outputs something more valuable than the inputs." And it's like, that is a miracle. But I think today, people are so blind to how economics works that they don't even understand that the government doesn't make money. The government takes money from the makers who create these machines that output something more valuable than the inputs. And then they employ people, and then the government swoops in and taxes those people. And so every time I hear solutions where it's like, in some way going to unduly encumber those people, I'm like, "Uh, they'll leave as history shows that they will."

• 33:34Speaker 01

  That makes sense, right? But to me, some of the stuff that keeps, you know, patterns coming back up. My son right now is at a camp for a few weeks. Last night, he calls me. We haven't spoken for four or five days. And I talk to him like, "So how you doing?" He says, "Oh, my God, Dad, I am so excited. Let me tell you, all these kids I'm meeting, da-da-da-da." And he's kind of going through the prime. And I'm remembering the first time I'm away from my family and how this is my chance to show up to my dad that, "Guess what? I can hang. I can do my thing." And you're letting him go through it. But now, as they're going through this process, he's also gonna go have to figure certain things out on his own. Unfortunately, every generation, even though we understand capitalism in a different way, they're gonna go through it.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  Every time we have babies, this next generation, they're always gonna start off as being socialists or communists or coming from a place of rich people or bad. Why? The greatest monopoly we have in America today that still hasn't been addressed. It's the biggest monopoly. It's the biggest monopoly and regulators can't do shit about it. For every one pro-capitalist, pro-conservative professor in school, there's thirteen that are on the opposite side. Yeah. For every one, so you got thirteen to one. Typically, when AT&T went through the monopoly law, or they were looking at Facebook to kind of trying to break them apart, or Google, or some of these companies in the past, you get to the fifty, fifty-five percent number. We have the market share.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Like, Apple is floating, like smartphone, they're floating, right? With that monopoly that they have. What do you think's gonna happen when we send our four kids, or two kids, or three kids, to go to school for four years to be around people that hate billionaires? That can't stand rich people? That don't believe in what they believe in? And the books they recommend to the kids are Communist Manifesto? And they're teaching that to your kids? And then you're around other kids, who either have bought into it, or they're about to be bought into it? What do you think's gonna happen when they're in that environment? I mean, we keep sending our kids to the same place to get brainwashed, to come back and hate their parents for a few years, and then go back to it again? I can't say how many of my executives, they lose their daughter, or son, they send them to school for two fifty,

• 35:49Speaker 01

  they come back hating capitalism, they don't want to be around mommy and daddy, because they're like, "I cannot believe you voted for that guy. I cannot believe you did this. All you care about is money. I'm gonna go and work for UNICEF. I'm gonna go and work for this." And then you lose your kid for five, six, seven years, and then they show back up. You're like, "Why did I spend two hundred thousand dollars, that I worked my ass off, for this kid to go to school, to come back hating me?" Like, for example, if I see your employees, and you're not around, I come to your place, my job is to say, "Listen, you guys are lucky to work with Tom Bilyeu. Let me tell you why. You know this is a guy that's a relentless guy? Do you know how important it is to work with somebody that's got a big vision they're pursuing? You know why that's important? Because when you work with somebody else, you know he's not gonna be slowing down.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  And you know he's fully committed. You guys are lucky. Learn as much as you can, okay? Because as it gets bigger, you're not gonna have as much time." Now, let's flip the script. You ready? You're not around, I come talk to your employees. Why would you guys work for him? You know, he gets all the money and the accolades and credit, you guys get nothing. Why are you guys doing this? What's this all about? He's using you guys. That's what they're doing in school.

• 36:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Nonstop.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Who the hell thinks that's a good idea? So, so to me, a part of why this is happening, you got me thinking, is parents are still subscribing to the old way of what it is that we want our kids to do to be successful, and we are responsible for continuously repeating this pattern. Until somebody puts a stop to it, it's gonna continue happening.

• 37:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, and I think it happens largely invisibly to the vast majority of the public, but if the whole idea of the long march to the institutions is sort of one of the ultimate conspiracy theories that whatever the French back in the 40s, 50s decided this is how we're gonna do it. We're gonna take over these institutions. They did it, it spread to America, it happened here as well. It's Thomas Sowell, I think, sums this up really well, that the last 30 years, though he said this 20 years ago, so the last 50 years have been marked by exchanging what works for what sounds good. And because it sounds good, especially if you're young and emotive and you're just wearing your emotions on your sleeve and you want to matter, all these ideas sound phenomenal. The bad news is they don't withstand the test of time.

• 38:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And so when a country ends up crumbling, it's far more dramatic than people realize. It happens all the time. It happens to big countries, just like America. I mean, unfortunately, history, when you look back, it is just a never-ending stream of countries that at the time seemed impossible to fail. They fail, it's a bloodbath for a generation or two, or in the case of Argentina, 100 years of essentially being in the economic hinterlands. And so it's, these ideas have consequences, and they definitely play out very poorly. And I think the next 10 years for us in America, a different phenomenon, but there's gonna be something that plays out that's gonna force America to decide, who are we? What are we willing to publicly say? This is what it means to be American.

• 38:46Tom Bilyeu?

  And the way that we define that is going to define how well we do moving into the future. And just, I'll be so curious to see if you agree. The thing that I think is gonna force that test is that we are going to... Immigrate people into America that don't share America's core values. I mean, that's a large part of... So my beef with immigration isn't with low-wage workers. It's you didn't do anything to find out if these people share our values. Like, I love the vision of America as a nation of immigrants. But they're a nation of immigrants that over hundreds of years, because long before we founded the company, we were still a nation of immigrants. We had... We ended up building a set of ideals.

• 39:30Tom Bilyeu?

  And then when we founded the company, it was on a set of ideas that were already pervasive. And now I see this being a collision of essentially Judeo-Christian ethic versus Islam. And they've already gone so ham across Europe. And you're seeing now... I saw the stats on the major cities in the Netherlands. And they're like 45%, 55% first or second-generation immigrant. And then in Brussels, it's over 70% first or second-generation immigrant. And again, I'm all for immigrants. But if you have immigrants that don't assimilate or they don't share your values, you're going to end up in a tug-of-war.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that's why we need guys like you to encourage your viewers to have more kids. Because we need to have more kids.

• 40:20Tom Bilyeu?

  And here, I'm the worst guy because I haven't had kids. But hey, the good news is I actually do tell people it's probably the right answer.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  We had a conversation about it last night. It was great at the restaurant. We went to know. But you know what's so funny? You're saying that. Here's how I work. For me, it's very simple. It's not that hard. When I sit down and I watch anybody that moves into any community, what happens to that community? Let's kind of go through it. My chef that lives with us, and he cooks for us every day, he's a Muslim from Turkey. Now, keep in mind, I'm a Christian and I'm Armenian Assyrian. And the Armenian and Assyrian and the Greek genocide was done by his camp. And he's a Muslim. You know how we get along? We're like this. We perfectly get along. When we go to Hampton's, wherever we go, he's with us. He stays at the house. He takes security kids.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  We love him, okay? However, I asked him a question one time. I said, "You got a family?" He says, "Yes." I said, "You have a choice to live in a city where it's 100% Muslim mixture, Sunni, Shia, you pick and choose." Another city that's a hundred percent Jew, a hundred thousand people live there, they're Jewish. A hundred thousand Scientologists, a hundred percent Scientologists. A hundred percent Christian, a hundred thousand of them are all Christian. Where would you want to raise your kids? I said, give me from the highest to the lowest. He says, Christian first. Whoa. Then he goes Jewish, then he goes Scientology. Okay, I admittedly did not see that coming. Me too.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  Now, I'm telling you, me too, I could not believe he said that. I said, why do you say that? He says, well, most Christians, wherever they live, it's a peaceful place. I said, Jews, wherever they live, because they're driven by money and finance and success, they're gonna have to make sure the properties are good, it's safe, it's secure, thriving, good restaurants. Number three, Scientologists, wherever they live, they're also gonna protect theirs. And then you have Muslims. I said, why wouldn't you want to be there? He says, why do you think I'm in America? I said, this is so interesting when you think about this. This is a very raw conversation. When I say this, I get messages, I can't believe you're saying this. Oh, yeah, I'm waiting. Let me tell you what you cannot. I lived in Iran for ten and a half years, and I lived it. I saw it.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  I lived in Tehran from seventy, October of eighteen seventy-eight till July fifteenth of eighty-nine, I lived there, and I witnessed what happened. And all the nasty, the data, oh, my God, it's because of, you know, it's really everybody that's behind it is really these guys and those guys and these guys. Who's behind it? Because from forty-one to seventy-nine, when the Shah was in charge of Iran, prior to Khomeini coming, the Shah did business with Israel, no problem. Frank Sinatra went and gave one of the biggest concerts ever in Iran in nineteen seventy-five. Really? I didn't know that. The ambassador of Iran was dating Elizabeth Taylor. Just go Google it, type in Zahedi Elizabeth Taylor. They were together. She would go to visit him there. You look at the biggest of the names would go to Iran.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  You type in Iran's mountains and snow, if you type in Iran, mountains, snow, you will be blown away by what these mountains look like. And that Palavi, beautiful place, Port Palavi, was an incredible place that you would go to. There was no issues in the Middle East. Iran didn't start problems with anybody. There was no proxy words of Houthis and Hamas and Hezbollah and all this other. There was no Islamic Revolutionary Guard. It's funny, six months ago, I finally got ahold of the founder of Islamic Revolutionary Guard that started it with Khomeini. I invited him. He came here. We did a two-hour podcast together. Anybody and everybody who was from Iran was so furious the fact that I had him here. I asked him, this is the same guy that he and his direct report killed the existing

• 44:08Speaker 01

  president and prime minister, a former president and prime minister of Iran. His reports killed the president. His report. And then they said, no, the guy is, the killer is dead. The killer was never dead. And then he had to go to jail for it. I talked to him about it. How come Iran was at peace under the Shah? How come the Middle East was okay? Yeah, Israel was still trying to do their Mossad and all the other stuff that they were doing. But how come he got along with everybody? Why is it that if you type in a meeting that took place between Stalin, between, I want to say Stalin, Churchill, and one other world leader, could have been Carter? Why is it when those three had a meeting, they had the meeting in Iran? Out of all the, and by the way, the Shah was not involved.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  They're having a business meeting to negotiate some things that they're doing. They said, where do you want to meet? Let's meet in Tehran, Iran. You tell me when's the last time, the leader of Germany, the leader of UK, the leader of US, the leader, oh yeah, let's go have a meeting in Iran. When's the last time that that hasn't happened? So to me, what caused it? Extremism, Khomeini came in. When he came in, he brought chaos. It was a mess. And Iran's been doing that for 79 till today. You can tell me whatever you want to tell me. In no place am I going to sit there and agree. Just recently, a guy gets arrested and the father of a daughter because the father of the daughter sold his daughter to marry a man who was in his 40s, 50s. The daughter's 60 years old.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  Hamas finds out about it. They come back and they say, shame on you for selling your daughter. To a man at six years old, you have to wait till nine years old. Jesus. Did you hear what I just said? Yes. Shame on you at six years old. Nine years old is okay. Yeah. My daughter's nine years old. What do you mean nine years old? That's crazy. So, so to me, it's so uncomfortable talking about these types of topics. Where we're kind of like, oh my God, we can't talk about that. Someone's gonna slash my tires. What if they see me in the streets and they come up to me? What if somebody comes and swats me? What if I'm getting swatted? Oh my God, are we gonna keep walking on eggshells and being afraid of this kind of stuff? So, you're right. If there is a pattern, we have to ask why. This does not mean everybody. It doesn't. It doesn't mean everybody.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  But there is a pattern. Here's the other thing. When you work for a company. Any company I work at, you go work at Microsoft. You go work at Apple. You go work at Walmart. You go work at any company. As you're going through the interview process, you're gonna answer a certain set of questions, background, qualification, what you bring to the table, resume, all this stuff, right? Then when I'm in, when I'm in, what's typically the first month of orientation for any company? How special we are, the history of it, this is our founder, what we've done. What are they trying to do the first month? To make you be proud of working at Walmart, to make you be proud of working at AT&T, to make you be proud of working at Bridgewater, to make you be proud of working with Dallio. Let me tell you how we, what we did, to make you be proud of whatever the job is, right? Do we do that? How much of that do we do?

• 47:09Speaker 01

  When I joined the army and I finished boot camp, uh, I'm at an event, it's either, it's, I went to, April 15th, I joined the army in 97. So, say there's a 4th of July ceremony, it's one of those that happens. There's thousands of people at the unit at Fort Jackson. And I'm standing, I'm watching everything and then I'm seeing men and women cry. I'm like, damn, that's an E8 crime. That's a chief foreign officer four crime. That's an oath, that's a captain crime. What, what's going on? They lost a friend, they lost this, they lost that. I'm like, damn. I get to my unit. When I get to the 101st Airborne Division, the first thing they did is, they said, there's a movie coming out about your unit that you're gonna be able to see before anybody else sees. I'm like, God, whatever, who cares about this unit? We go in this theater room, 600 people in the room. You know what the movie was?

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Saving Private Ryan. Whoa. We watched the movie before anybody else saw it because it was about the 101st Airborne Division. Wow. By the time the movie was done, I was so proud to be part of the 101st. So, to me. America needs to do a better job selling America and expecting you to love America.

• 48:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Expecting you to be proud to be an American. If we do a lousy job there, a part of it falls on us as well.

• 48:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, no, I agree. This is, the more I read about history, the more I realize that we really have a problem. We have lost faith in who we are. And the second you lose faith in who you are, you are going to fall. I mean, this is like the most classic that countries always fall from within first. But when you present a galvanized, united front, you believe you're willing to fight, then you've got a chance. But man, there is, uh, I mean, some of it is just the, the part of the cycle. Things have gone so well for so long that nobody's had to be tough. And because we haven't had to be tough, we can have luxury beliefs like, uh, we're doing bad things and there's nothing here to be proud of. And the very act of doing that is going to tear it apart.

• 49:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Like even if you want to rewrite history and you want to say, okay, wait, I don't like some of these things in the past. And so I'm gonna create a spin that takes our eyes off of the things that I think were horrible and moves them on to the things that I want us to be proud of today. Great. Like if we want to start talking about like the civil rights movement and how we did that and the civil war and how we stood up for slavery, like if you've got, uh, America was founded on slavery and that's horrible message, you can give that negative version that makes everybody feel guilty, or you can give the positive version and the UK has done a phenomenal job of this. We were the first ones to end slavery. And it's like, okay, we can feel good about that. So even though they had slaves for God knows how long, the story they tell themselves is about ending slavery. We should be telling the same story.

• 49:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, I agree, slavery was terrible. However, whatever story we tell ourselves is gonna be the thing that becomes part of the national identity. It's gonna be the thing that gives us the energy to either fight for who we are or to be like, well, I'm guilty and I feel bad anyway. So the person that comes in with more energy, they're gonna be the ones, whether I like it or not, whether I agree with their values or not, they're gonna be the ones that take over.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  It's true. It's true. Now, the question becomes selling. Who needs to do the selling? Who are immigrants with the most when they get here? Who are the parents with the most when they get here? Who are the kids with the most when they get here? What percentage of teachers sell America? What percentage of teachers sell the greatness of America? How do they sell it? What do they sell about it? What traditions do they sell about it? What do they say about our founding fathers? Do they get up there and talk about how great Jefferson was? Or how great Washington was? Are they talking about these guys were slave owners? Were embarrassed. We have a very embarrassing past of our founding fathers. And they were just all slave owners. Who the hell is gonna be proud to be an American? You know, if I, if I hang out with a certain group of people

• 50:51Speaker 01

  and they're proud Assyrians. And I go have dinner with them for two hours. Two hours later, I'm gonna say, no, I'm proud to be an Assyrian. Especially for people. But if I go with a group of people that all they do is bash Assyrians. They're like, shit, I don't even want to tell anybody I'm Assyrian. I don't want to tell anybody I'm Armenian. I went to Glendale High School. Now, don't talk about who comes out of Nitro's. I'm proud to say I went to Glendale High School, Nitro's. John Wayne went to Glendale High School. Did he really? He did, John Wayne. It's our pride and joy, right? We talk about John Wayne went to Glendale High School, right? But a lot of good people came out of Glendale, right? You can sell the pride. But I think a part of it is the influencers need to be influenced. And if you don't want to do it, we have to be comfortable to fire you. Hey, you don't, today, so funny.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  Guy comes in right before your name came up in a meeting. And they want to do a deal with us. They're a big business now. They've done very well for themselves. They're a very well-known space in what they're doing. Great. We sit there, we talk, and says, you know what? You know, you had an engineer that was working for your MINEC company? And you know how much he couldn't stand what you believed in politically? I said, really? Yeah. He says, he wasn't on your side politically. He hated what you believed in. And he used to always tell us. So I'm like, you know, of course, I know who he's talking about. And he's no longer with us. You're not gonna be able to stay in a place like this if you're not proud of the vision that we have. But if you're not, we gotta cut you. You don't like being an American? Dude, what are you proud of?

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Let me tell how great Russia is. Guess what? Here's a one-way flight. Go to Russia, bro. We will cancel your citizenship here. What would you like? Get out. Go somewhere you're proud to be. So it's either you are not proud no matter where you go, because you're a bitter person. Let's set that aside. Number two, you've been indoctrinated to hate your country. Go find a country to be proud of. If somebody works for my company, any one of them, that they're not proud to be here, I'll ask them. Are you proud to be in this company? I mean, I like my job. No, no, that's not the question. Are you proud to wear the jersey? Like I said, I like the job. I don't hate it. Where would you be proud to wear the jersey? X, Y, Z. Can I help you get a job there? Let me help you get a job there. You would do that? I'll make the phone call right now.

• 53:07Speaker 01

  They're shocked. I'll make the phone. You want me to call them right now? I'm gonna call them and tell them how great you are. Who's the person? Oh, my God, I can't believe we're doing this. Give me the phone. Hey, Johnny. This is Patrick Bedd David. I'm the CEO and founder of Hyatt Tame. I got a guy that's very good who's with me. And we'd love to keep him. But let me tell you, when I asked him, what's the number one company he'd wanna work for? It's yours. Would you be willing to take an interview for him? Oh, absolutely. Of course, PBD. No problem. He's coming to you. You got an interview. Go. Why would I wanna have somebody work here that doesn't wanna be here? So if you're in America, you're not proud to wear the hat, the red, white, and blue. Go somewhere where you're gonna be proud. But how do we do that? Because? Well, we can't do that. That's the problem. Legal immigration is complicated to do that. However, one of the things is a test

• 53:52Speaker 01

  where at least you push, you push, you push, you push, you push. There's the door. Well, no, no, no, I don't wanna leave. Well, then guess what? Be proud. Sell America, be proud. Start selling the goodness of what this country's done for you. We ourselves, I think all of us.

• 54:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Does that have to be an invitation though? Cause I worry if you do that one from a place of aggression, you're gonna end up, especially now in a populist moment, you're gonna get like the bitter battles.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  No problem. What's the alternative? What is the alternative? You wanna go to the alternative? Look at what's going on with UK. I know you said we're the first slave owners. Uh, last year, the number one name for a boy and a child in London, two years in a row, I believe, is Mohammed.

• 54:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Hmm.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Was that the case 10 years ago? So what happened with them? UK's lost. UK's not gonna be the UK what they were before. London used to be the financial capital of the world. Now it's New York City. We keep thinking it's not gonna happen.

• 54:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Hmm.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  And, and the part that we get a little bit hesitant about is we worry, what if we offend? What if we upset the mob? Like for example, one day guy comes to me and I said, can I have a private conversation with you? No one's ever gonna know you and I had this conversation. I just wanna give you some feedback if you're open to it. No problem. He comes to the office. We sit down. I said, I think you're one of the best communicators out there. Maybe better than me. You're a very good communicator. I'm just telling him, he's a very good communicator. You know who this guy is. I said, but I gotta tell you, bro. You are so bitter on the way you talk. And I sense the bitterness.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  And that language that you have right now is gonna mess up on a lot of opportunities you could have. You gotta change that language. Cause you're not heading in the right direction. Oh my God, you know, all my numbers are up. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. No problem. Tell me your numbers. Let me tell you what we're doing. I said, all right. So, say.

• 55:57Speaker 01

  How you define a good audience? What do you mean? Do you define an audience by the number? Or the quality of viewership or combination? How do you define a good audience? Well, it's by the number. I don't know about that. What do you mean? I said, well, I had a guy that would send me a hundred insurance policies a month, of which only twenty were good. But I had to do the work of all the hundred. And the other eighty was all bullshit. He wasn't sending me the best insurance policies a month. It hurt my company's numbers. And I lost a couple of insurance carriers. And then I had another guy that would send me fifty policies every month, of which forty of them were all good. And they would place. What's better quality business? The forty on fifty or the twenty on the hundred? Where are you going with this?

• 56:39Speaker 01

  I said, the way I judge everyone's audience is in the following way. If I take Tom Bilyeu's audience, you got millions on top of millions of followers. You got guys like a Ray Dalio who trusts you. I think you're the only person he's done a podcast with four times, right? This is a twenty billion dollar guy. Those guys don't go on every podcast. They go places where they feel safe with. But you've had Shanahan, you've had politics, you've had controversial figures, you've had a lot of different people. If I took your twenty million followers, whatever the number that you have, and I brought it down to a hundred people, what does that room look like? My assumption, you can, you're gonna know it better. But I would see a bunch of professionals. I would see doers.

• 57:24Speaker 01

  I would see guys that are percentages gonna be probably crypto and NFT and AI. I would see probably a percentage that's gonna be Marvel, interest in cinema, you know, Disney, like that creative side. I would see a big, you know, business side. I would see quite a few billionaires that have probably watched your podcast, where we're gonna be like, wow, there's seven billionaires in the room. And there's a, okay, what percentage is male? Okay, eighty-two percent, eighteen, wow, okay, a few husbands and wives? That's the audience, okay?

• 57:59Speaker 01

  We can sit there and worry about what the mob is gonna say. I want that audience. Now the person you break down their audience and it's a bunch of complainers, whiners. It's his fault, it's that guy's fault, da, da, da. Low lever calibration, if you look at power versus force, our guilt, blame, you know, apathy, grief, pride, ego, anger, resentment, all of that. I don't want that following. So do we want them to come to America? Is that what it is? Just how many people are gonna come to America? We just have to say, this ain't the place for you. And we have to be comfortable talking about that.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  I think it's not easy for everybody, I totally get it. I'm a little bit in a different place where I broke through the mold and I said, I'm not gonna stop talking about it.

• 58:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  I'm gonna talk about it and some people are not gonna like it. And, and trust me, it's gotten me in trouble a few times, but for us, we have to realize, if we believe America is the greatest country in the world, we have to take a stand, make our case, make our argument. If you don't like us, listen, what do you like? Go, let us make a connection for you, but this ain't the place for you.

• 59:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Hmm, it'll be interesting. I love all of that and I think in the abstract, that's absolutely right. Where the rubber meets the road, right now, we already have people at war. I think we've turned a large portion of millennials against American principles, like, and that to me is one of the things that we have to-

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Who has, who do you think has?

• 59:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, to me, it is the long march through the institutions. It is people that believe that capitalism is exploitative, it is all taking, that the government should get the money and redistribute it as it sees fit. They don't understand capitalism, literally the mechanics, the physics of how it works. Uh, they have a poisonous envy inside of them.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  How do you fight against them?

• 1:00:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, you, young people simply want a positive vision for their life that when they deploy, it actually makes their life better. And the most dumbed down way to say it is if you give people a set of ideas that make them feel expansive, you've got them forever. If you give them a set of ideas that makes them feel contractive, you can get them behind you, but it's just, it's not going to be, um, you're leaning into the bitterness and the anger. So it becomes very corrosive.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  What percentage of resentment, the bitterness, the envy community, you think you can, you can shift their way of thinking to your way of thinking?

• 1:00:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so here's the bad news. I believe you give up on adults and you focus on young people. So, young people are not infinitely malleable, but they're so malleable, it's wise of any society to protect the inputs in their children.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  There's one big problem. Uh, who influences the young people? Those adults. They're the professors, Tom. They're the teachers. They're the ones that work in HR.

• 1:00:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, yeah, no, this is big.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  They're the ones that are sitting there and saying, "It's not fair." You know, "You should let them work from home. You should let them do this." They're the soft community.

• 1:01:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  You're not going to win those people over. They are some of the most difficult people to convert into a different way of thinking. It takes many, many years. And from my experience, the envious, the bitter, the resentful, the entitled, maybe you can convert one out of five, their way of thinking. It's an 80% losing proposition. So for us, you know, if I have, let's just say I'm running a state, and I send a test, and I make it a requirement to find out who's proud to be an American, who's proud of their state. Why would I want teachers who have influence over my kids?

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  To be selling hate to my kids. The current tenure system allows that to happen. It's a catastrophic system. Correct. So you can't fire those guys. So what are we supposed to do? Are we seriously supposed to just sit there and take it? Are we also supposed to sit there and think this is gonna change? How is it going to change? It's not going to change. So what do we do? Kick the can to the next mayor? Kick the can to the next governor? Kick the can to the next president? That means what we're indirectly saying is, hey, guys, we have collectively accepted the fact that America's gonna fall. It's just maybe not it's gonna fall in the next five to 10 years. It's probably gonna fall in 30 years. That's okay by then. Who knows what's gonna happen? It's gonna be... No, no. It's an element of

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  standing firm today and calling out BS. And if we can't do that, like right now, you know who supported Mam Donnie? You know who he got today that supported him? The Teachers Union of New York. You know how powerful they are? What a shock. What a shock, but how powerful are they? You know how powerful they are? Are you kidding me? Like, okay. So now this guy's gonna come in and flip the way of thinking? And we're sitting on the sidelines? That's okay. No, it's okay. No, I think I think there needs to be a little bit of that. No, no, we're not doing that. We're standing, here's what we're gonna be doing. We're not doing that. Here's what's gonna be the standard. You don't wanna be here? You don't wanna be here. And I think it starts with teachers. You know, it starts with professors. Starts with anybody that's gonna have influence over the kids.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  Starts with anybody that is working, like, for example, one of the laws that I believe we need to create is in America, if you wanna become a a senator, a congressman, a mayor, a governor, you have to be a choose the religion, Catholic, Christian. Really? You wanna mandate that? Oh, my God. Are you? I'm so opposed to mandates like that. Let me explain to you. Yeah, yeah, please. Really? Yeah, yeah. Tell me the alternative. Have you been to Dearborn? Have you been to, have you been to, what's going on with, to many cities in Minnesota? I'm certainly aware of the issue. You think they believe in what we believe in? No. You think they believe in, you know, some of the, you know, values and principles that we live by?

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  Do you think when guys like you, who are extremely smart and intelligent, you're a very logical guy, you're a March 30th baby, you're a very logical guy, right? Everything to you is very calculating and sequencing the next 10, 15, 20 steps. Yes. Guys like you today in America are not having kids. True, at least in my count. But by the way, when I tell you this, I'm not taking shots. I know a lot of friends that are like you. Yeah, yeah. That are not doing it. Why? On many different scales, it's probably not the right decision. On many different scales, it's a headache. On many different scales,

• 1:04:45Speaker 01

  it's, I don't believe in the future. I think it's gonna be chaotic and I don't wanna put somebody in here that has to face with all these challenges, right? They're doing that. They're doing it at 2.9. Yeah. We're doing it at 1.7. Yeah. So either you're accepting the fact that America's gonna be a Muslim nation in the next 30 to 50 years? And you're fine with it? Great. Or you have to realize, and by the way, maybe that's a good thing. Maybe if we look at some of the most thriving countries in the world, maybe the leading religion of that country is Muslim. Maybe that's what's made Iran so prosperous because they're so peaceful. You know, and they're so civil and they get along with everybody. You know, and they have no sanctions. You know, the market is wide open. You know, a country that should be doing 2, 3 trillion dollars of GDP per year

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  is only doing 350 billion dollars per year. Maybe it's a very safe place to be in Yemen and Iraq and and some of these other places. Maybe they're doing phenomenal, right? Maybe we need to go to that philosophy. Or maybe we already have the data on that and we've seen what's happened. So maybe we as Americans need to realize

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  it's so not popular of an idea. What the opposition, the only way we can have the certainty to say what? No, no, no, I'm totally against that. Then guess what the only opposite message of that is? It's only one message.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  I had a guy on a podcast this week, his name is Dr. Taylor Marshall. He was a former priest, Episcopal. Am I saying it correctly? Episcopal? Episcopal. Episcopal Church, yeah. Episcopalian. Episcopalian, yeah. So he went from that to being a Catholic, traditional Catholic. He's been a Catholic for 19 years. Ask him, how many kids do you have? He says eight. So previous marriages? No, eight.

• 1:06:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Really?

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Why eight?

• 1:06:28Tom Bilyeu?

  He's got to make up for me.

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you watch what he says. I said, how many people do you know that? Like, how many people you know that have eight kids? Same husband or wife? How many do you know?

• 1:06:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Literally zero.

• 1:06:37Speaker 01

  I don't either. So I'm sitting, I'm like, dude, I don't know. I know you now, that you got eight kids. I said, how many do you know? He said, at least thirty. I said, you know thirty people? He says, yeah, friends? Friends? How?

• 1:06:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  I'm a traditional Catholic. Traditional Catholics, we average 4.6 kids.

• 1:06:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Not bad.

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  So we pulled up Catholic, it was 2.1, but traditional Catholic was 3.9 to 4.6. So he's got eight. Okay. Unless if Tom, we are gonna go on a, the greatest baby-making machine run of next thirty years, where America's gonna average six kids per, where we are so confident that the future looks bright because we're the ones having the babies. If we're not doing that, what's the alternative? The alternative is, America in thirty years is gonna be a majority Muslim nation in thirty to fifty years.

• 1:07:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  That's what's gonna happen.

• 1:07:30Tom Bilyeu?

  That's what I'm saying. The next, the next ten years.

• 1:07:33Speaker 01

  So what's your solution, though? What's your solution?

• 1:07:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so my solution is very much, we have to, as a nation, say, this is exactly what we stand for. And I think the only way that that's going to be enshrined in law, because I don't think you can look back at the people that are already here, if they're here legally. We have to say, immigration is a game of recruiting. We want to go out and find the best and the brightest, the people that are what I call foreign-born Americans. People that, I, literally, I don't care. It may be that we import exclusively Muslims, but they're Muslims that believe in what I'll call the American way. So they believe in freedom. They believe in, uh, maximizing liberty, private property, uh, the individual sovereignty, like, all the things that make America, the American spirit, hard work, discipline, uh, self-reliance,

• 1:08:19Tom Bilyeu?

  all the things that make America, America.

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  Do you see a common pattern where they agree with our values?

• 1:08:24Tom Bilyeu?

  No, I would say right now, the easy way to parse it is that that is a misalignment. But I'm just saying, I want to make it clear that I think this is a values question, not a color, religion, creed question. It just so happens that you will find some disagreement. You'll find disagreement at unusually high proportions when you just look at the religion versus religion.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Are you convinced if we go the way we're going right now, it's just a matter of time where the Ilhan Omar, the Zoran Mamdani, all the names that we are getting right now, they're going to multiply exponentially on Christians and all the other Catholics, Jews, whatever other LDS. Are you of the mindset that they're going to exponentially grow at a much faster pace than everybody else the next two to three decades?

• 1:09:17Tom Bilyeu?

  As of right now, yes.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  So what signs do you see that any of that could possibly slow down? What data do you see that any of that could slow down?

• 1:09:26Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't see data that says that's going to slow down.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Okay, so if we know, and you and I trust math, you've built a billionaire company, and when you're building your business, when you're smaller, and you're seeing exponential growth, and then all of a sudden you go into the compounding effect, you have a room where you're like, guys, I think we're about to blow up. You know that feeling when you have, right? Okay. Everything paints towards they're exponentially growing, and they're eventually going to be running mayors in many cities. Locally, they're buying any church that opens up and turning it into mosques. They're doing that in Texas with the Epic Center. They're doing that all over the place. So then, how do we protect the values and principles

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  that we know built America into the greatest country in the world in the shortest amount of time? Next year, we're going to celebrate our 250-year anniversary, our birthday. How do we protect that?

• 1:10:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, for me, the answer is, the people that are here, they're here, and that is what it is. And so if Muslims now outbreed us, then game over.

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  Then let them beat us.

• 1:10:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Okay, so you're from the standpoint of that if they beat us, let them do it.

• 1:10:43Tom Bilyeu?

  I would not say the word "let them do it." I would say, you have to understand that you're in a competition, so...

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  But how do you fight against it, though? You said, "I would say not let them do it."

• 1:10:52Tom Bilyeu?

  The answer is very straightforward. So, number one, you've gotta make sure that you're incentivizing people to have kids. So, you want to culturally incentivize it, you want to financially incentivize it. But I would say, across the board, the same should apply for somebody... If you've got a Muslim here that's here legally, everything should apply for them.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Are you thinking I'm saying sending them home? Because that's not what I'm saying.

• 1:11:12Tom Bilyeu?

  No, no, no. I'm saying, so you've got that. So, you've got, even just the people that are here now, if they... Whatever group outpopulates, it could be the Catholics, that end up just absolutely taking over. Which is my whole theory on... We've imported so many Hispanics, but they're mostly Catholics, so it's pretty easy for them to assimilate. So, you've got that. Just the people that are here, we're already in a race for, like, how many of what are gonna be around? But, the way that I think this manifests, we need to literally state, "These are our American values." And then, we need to recruit, AKA, go out and immigrate people, that match that setup. I think we want the best and the brightest from all over the world.

• 1:11:55Tom Bilyeu?

  I think that we want to find people that are... Pointed at the technology is just an easy one to look at, that are gonna be able to help us build the technologies of the future, that have the desire to assimilate, and you bring them over that way.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. For all of that that you said, that sounds great, okay? For us to get America to decide to all of a sudden have a bunch of kids, that's gonna take a couple decades for them to buy into that. It's not gonna happen overnight. The other thing is, my concern is policymaking.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  If you wanna live here and we're making the policies, or Americans are making the policies, no problem. But if you wanna bring your way of thinking from your country and Sharia law here, we can't do that.

• 1:12:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, now you're getting into the actual policies and things like that.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Well, that's a part of people getting into law.

• 1:12:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, yeah, and I think that it's just, this is, this is a big problem that will have to be broken into chunks.

• 1:12:56Speaker 01

  How do you do that?

• 1:12:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so I want to, I wanna get one more topic here before we go.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Oh, go for it, yeah.

• 1:13:03Tom Bilyeu?

  But to button that one up, I think it's just gonna have to be dealt with. There's immigration, there's having children, there's establishing values, like all of that stuff's gonna have to play out. And then the thing that you put your finger on earlier, I think is arguably the most important, which is who has influence over kids? And looking at that, what is the ideology that they're being inculcated with? They will be inculcated with something. And so I think that we have to, like, when, when parents are being treated at the school board like domestic terrorists, you have a problem. It, that's a 10 alarm fire. Like, that is a level of insanity that, I don't even have kids, and I'm like, what is happening?

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  But, but a lot of people are afraid of having it for that reason. The average person can't put kids in private schools. The average person can't afford to pay two grand a month for private school. Two grand a month private school, that's 24 grand a year, pre-tax money, that's $36,000 a year. You have three kids, that's $108,000 a year, pre-tax money. If I'm making 200 grand a year, what? Half my money's going towards, how am I gonna make my mortgage pay? I mean, it, it almost like, to be able to live the life, to be able to protect the values that my kids are gonna be taught, I need to make 350 to 500,000 a year. It's not what the median income is right now. 90%, 95% of parents are probably gonna put their, 90%, they're gonna put their kids in public school. They don't have any leverage over it. You can't go to the school and say, you can't

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  teach what you're teaching.

• 1:14:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, yes, you can. And they're gonna have to.

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  Well, a lot of people are trying to, but in blue states, blue cities.

• 1:14:32Tom Bilyeu?

  I guess. I, trust me, this is not easy.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, all right. Brother, this has been incredible. Uh, where can people join you?

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

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• 1:15:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I love it. All right, brother. Thank you.

• 1:15:10Speaker 01

  Anytime. Thank you.

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