Chaos in Spain: Immigration Crisis, Conspiracies, and European Instability

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  But we're also going to talk about, Drew? The Jews. They're coming in hot. There are some conspiracy theories flying around there. We're going to get into all of them. The US economic update with the Fed's numbers are coming in and having a very strange impact on what's going on with the bond market. You guys are going to want to see what that means. Saudi Arabia has launched a direct attack on the Houthis in Yemen, drawing more players into this expanding conflict in the Middle East. Hamas has agreed to disarm, by the way, according to Trump, and nobody seems to care. We're going to get into why that is just getting crickets. And then, speaking of crickets, Anthony Fauci is facing potential contempt of Congress

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  charges for endlessly pleading the Fifth in his recent testimony. That was amusing. And EA is going private. We're going to talk about what that means for the future of entertainment. All right, up right away, we have got to talk about what's going on in Spain. Now, in February, Spain's socialist government approved a mass regularization by royal decree, basically trying to take the immigrants that had come into the country and just say, all right, you guys are going to get broad-based amnesty. And there were 1.3 million people, undocumented migrants, by the way, that applied. And there's an estimated 1 million that they're expecting to qualify.

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  So this is a massive number. Then, you chase that. On June 29, Spain's Supreme Court ruled that migrants reaching Siuda, I know I'm mispronouncing that, but hopefully you guys know what area I'm talking about, and Melilla, if they come by sea, that they cannot be returned to Morocco. So that ruling ended up getting published on July 8, and it ended up spreading across Moroccan social media within days. And now, this is where we start leaving the territory of what we know to be true, and we start getting into a little bit of conspiracy theory. There's all kinds of talks about, given the timing with the Supreme Court decision and the amnesty decision, is this just a bunch of people that want to come in and they're seeking a better life?

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  But if that were the case, you would not be expecting to see the demographics that you're seeing coming across. So if this really were people fleeing for a better life, you'd expect to see women, children, and men, not essentially exclusively men. If you look at the videos, and we'll show the videos. If you look at the videos of people flooding in across the border, this is almost exclusive. In fact, I'm only hedging because I'm sure somewhere in these masses, there are something other than military-age men. But man, in the videos, all you see are military-age men flooding in. They are breaking into homes. You had people on ladders smashing people's windows going in. You had massive floods of people pushing into apartment buildings, like literal, like

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  this is somebody's apartment, and pushing their way in. You had police vehicles being pelted with rocks by dozens of people lining up on the roads. I mean, it's really, really crazy. You have roving bands of what are reported to be Spanish people attacking the people coming in. It was really, really wild scenes. If you guys haven't seen this. And then you've got the European response. Multiple countries, from Italy to Norway, there have been a bunch that have said, we're going to suspend the agreement that all European countries have, where if you are in Europe, then you can move freely within European borders. They're saying they're going to suspend that for immigrants coming from Spain, that this

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  is just completely unhinged. So, given that, you've got what, I won't say highly coordinated, but the fact that they're moving in in like one moment to overwhelm the system, the fact that large groups of them are moving in a coordinated fashion to loot, or whatever it is that they're doing, people are saying, listen, this is either the mafia misunderstanding what's going on with the Supreme Court decision, and they thought that it meant that anybody coming in now would be able to get that same amnesty, that they would not be able to be sent back. The Spanish Prime Minister is saying that is a complete misunderstanding. That's not what the Supreme Court decision says, and that they're already beginning to send people back, that they missed the qualifying date. And so, all of that's just a misunderstanding.

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  So if this was the mafia just trying to make a little bit of money by bringing people into the country, that was really stupid. Other people are looking at this and going, what are you talking about? This is Israel and the US trying to destabilize the region. This is obvious. They're bringing in military-age men. You've got both Israel and the US that have been openly contemptuous of Spain's far-left Prime Minister, and they are trying to essentially punish them for Spain not allowing the US to fly out of the bases in Spain. And so, it gets pretty sort of deep into conspiracy land. Other people are saying, listen, this is obviously Moroccan territory, because the

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  two cities that we're talking about are actually in Africa. So these are not territories that are connected to mainland Spain. And so, people are like, hey, this is occupied territory. These guys should get out anyway. There have been previous attempts to at least make political statements where people would go inside unarmed, but they would go inside these cities and plant Moroccan flags, basically trying to say, this is our territory. So, right now, I think anybody saying that they actually know what's going on, it's way too early for that. But this is a very wild scene that is unfolding.

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  And when you talk about European sovereignty, dealing with the immigration crisis is going to be one of the most important things you can do. And to give you an idea of the scale, so people are estimating, Spain's Interior Ministry anyways, estimating that there were about 49,000 people that crossed into Siuda just in 24 hours. And if I have my numbers right, the population of the place is like 80,000. So you've got more than 50% being added to the total population in 24 hours. That is crazy. Now, we'll see how many people self-deport. There are reports that somewhere around 12,000 people have self-deported and gone back once they realized that they were not being greeted warmly, and that they were likely

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  not going to be able to stay. So we'll see where this all goes. And you've got everybody, we've got a clip here from the Prime Minister that we'll play. But there are people framing the Prime Minister's response as being like super soft. And then there are other things that he's saying that, no, listen, we're going to send these people back, and it's not as obvious that he's letting people in as I think some people are trying to make it. I don't think you can rule that out at this point. Of course, there's always the take on this, that this is the far-left in Spain. And I pulled a clip. You can find plenty of far-left radicals in Spain saying that they, in fact, literally want to replace Spanish people with immigrants. So, but is that just completely fringe territory?

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  Anyway, poor Drew is trying to keep up with all this. Let's go through, let's let the Prime Minister speak first, and then we'll move on to the radical left, and then we'll talk some more about Israel and the US.

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  It's subtitled, I'll read it out loud. "To provide a temporary response while we wait to see exactly what legal modifications we need to make, if any, we have requested the public company, SMSAMAR, in collaboration with the military, and of course..." Also with the civil guard to deploy buoys along the breakwater. This is among other things.

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  All right. So this is the one, by the way, where, yeah, you can pause this one for a second.

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  Yeah.

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  So this is the one, somebody was trying to show like this guy's an asshat, like you've got.

• 9:26Speaker 01

  Stop him.

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  Yeah, you've got like this, um, just massive influx. Did you already show the videos of just the absolute flood of humanity?

• 9:32Speaker 01

  As you was talking.

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  If you guys were looking at your screen, it is crazy. If you have not seen the footage, whatever you're imagining, it is far worse than that. It is absolute pandemonium. The number of people that are flooding in is, is really unprecedented. I mean, this is wild. If you're looking at your screens right now, uh, and there's video on video on video on video. This is not like one thing selectively showing something. I mean, this was going on all day. It's just absolute insanity. And then you see what looks like a military vehicle in Morocco, basically, um, shipping these guys up to the border and then letting them cross it. It is really, I mean, the, the, I don't think we've ever pulled more links for a single topic ever in the history of this show.

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  And we've done over 200 episodes. I mean, it's just, it is complete insanity. So you've got all these people flooding in. Okay. I think obviously it's just all propaganda all the time. You've got the left trying to put their message forward. You've got the right trying to put their message forward. So please, um, don't jump too rapidly to conclusions right now. This has got to be, okay, we've got to take this stuff, tease it out, actually start figuring out what is true. Don't fall into just quick narrative. The narratives are there. We're going to walk through sort of the different takes on this.

• 10:47Speaker 00

  But yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna want to look at precisely what is happening. Why are people doing this? Where is it just not being stopped? Where is it being encouraged? These are all the things that we have to figure out. Uh, and then one of the, so, okay. That was the, somebody trying to show that the prime minister is weak. There are other clips where he's in, I think I pulled them. There are other clips of the prime minister taking a much harder stance, saying this is a total misunderstanding of the Supreme Court decision. We are going to send these people back. We are going to bring out the military. We are going to stop this from happening. So again, that's not me being a fan of this guy's, um, policies. I do think that he has fallen prey to some of the, um,

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  what all round to Leninist Marxist ideology where we're into oppressed and oppressor categories. And so, um, we're leveraging that view to justify what I think is a long-term belief that if we get immigrants into the country, one will be able to stave off the demographic decline of Europe. Uh, just totally blindness to the reality of people bring with them their culture. And so it is not a European culture and therefore you can expect massive knock on effects from importing a bunch of people that do not share your culture. Uh, which we will certainly talk more about, but

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  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. You can nest it all inside of that, um, without this being something that the prime minister was courting intentionally. So this moment I think we're going to find in the fullness of time is probably going to be something more complicated that may in fact be the confluence of the following. You've got terrible immigration policies that have spread across Europe for a very long time. That's playing out. You've got a leftist belief that everybody is oppressed and oppressor, and that's the only lens you need to look through things. You've got the demographic challenges where there really is a demographic problem to be faced.

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  And some people believe the right way to handle that is to just import, um, a bunch of people with total blindness to what the, um, actual impact of cultural clashes are. Uh, you've got the mafia in all of this. Are they just trying to make additional money by ferrying people over? We certainly saw that at the southern border in the US, that it's a multi-billion dollar annual industry. And so if there's something similar going on there, that certainly wouldn't surprise me. You've got the US, you've got, uh, Israel that have beef with, um, Spain. So if you guys don't know, Spain has officially recognized Palestine as a state. Obviously Israel does not love that. Uh, so there's a lot of beef there.

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  You've got relationships growing between Morocco and Israel as a part of the Abraham Accords. So you've got, um, normalized relations between Morocco and Israel. You've got a narrative for Israel that can point at this and say, why do you guys have so much beef with us occupying, quote unquote, occupying territory in Palestine when Spain is doing exactly the same thing in Morocco? And so why are you so mad at us? Look at these guys. And so any sort of dust up over there may take eyes off of Israel. And so when you start, and then obviously Trump is pissed at, uh, the prime minister in Spain. And you know that Trump can be petty as hell. So would he want to see just, yeah, fuck it, disruption? Why not?

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  So when you lay out all of the possible things, it almost certainly isn't just one or the other. It's probably a mix of a whole lot of things. Now, are Israel and, um, the US actually facilitating this? Are they goading it on? Are they merely like cheering because there's something that's happening that they're like, yeah, fuck them? I don't think anybody has the answer to that and you're going to see a whole lot of conspiracies flying around this. What we do know is that there is a absolutely staggering amount of military aged men pouring into these cities

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  in Spain. It is Spain. No matter what people say, they've had the territory since what, the 1500s? So this is not like something that they did 80 years ago, uh,

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  In the 1940s?

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  What's that?

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  They didn't do it in the 1940s.

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  This is not like the, the thing going on in Israel where if you want to have beef with that, like we can sit and walk through the timeline of all of that stuff. This is a totally different ballgame. And anybody, if you're, if you can hear my voice right now and you're taking the stance that this is occupied territory, then I will say, is Constantinople occupied territory in Turkey? And is that going to be handed back to the Christians, uh, that had that for God knows how long? Cause, um, that became Muslim and whatever the 14 or 1500s. So a very similar kind of thing. I don't see anybody saying that Constantinople needs to be handed back. So, uh, that would be a wild take in my opinion.

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  But yes, it, this is going to become another flashpoint of this debate of, uh, what, what does it mean to have sovereign territory and who has a right to what land? Yeah, man, this is a crazy time that we are all living in. I hope you guys have been looking at your screens as, um, Drew has been walking through a lot of the different videos and things. Uh, now what Drew has up on the screen is basically, is this an opportunity to create a new choke point? Where if Israel can normalize relations far enough with the Moroccans and get them to be, I mean, this is the part that I don't think people are being honest about, that ultimately for Israel, for this to be a good move for Israel,

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  they would have to believe that they can have such dramatic influence over the Moroccans that they can effectively control the Strait of Gibraltar. That to me seems a bridge way too far. Morocco, as far as I know, is a majority Muslim country. So the odds that those two are going to be besties is effectively zero in my estimation. But hey, it's early days. Maybe I can be convinced. But again, if you're looking at your screen, you will see that one of the ways you get out of the, uh, not one of the ways, the way that you get out of the Mediterranean is through the Strait of Gibraltar. So if you have, um, Israeli control over that, then Israel can continue to grow its influence as the, um,

• 20:25Speaker 00

  Keeper of Western interests in the Middle East as it relates to the transportation of oil. Now, Israel saying that they want to see pipelines go through Israel. So is there a very simple chain of logic that you could follow that says, this is how Israel becomes that truly unsinkable carrier in the Middle East to help with oil? Sure, but I don't see how people go, oh, Morocco is going to be a vassal state of Israel. That, that just seems crazy to me. Now, I don't know if they're majority Sunni or majority Shiite. So I don't know if, if they were likely to side, are they going to side with the UAE? Are they going to side with Saudi Arabia?

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  Could it be something like that, which would be far more believable to me than Israel? And so as Israel comes to normalized relationships through the Abraham Accords, and just honestly through a vision of the world that is about economics, could that play out where you've got the UAE? You've got Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, all joining forces with Morocco and saying, hey, we've got to isolate Iran and now make sure that they can't create a choke point. And we need to be able to get this oil all the way out. And so everybody feels good about continuing to buy oil from the Middle East.

• 21:51Speaker 00

  Because the idea of people finding ways around it, like there are new shipping routes that China is doing. This isn't oil, but they have new shipping routes going up and around the Arctic. And so as the world goes, eh, we just have to work around the Middle East. We have to work around this conflict rather than dealing with it directly. There's going to be an upheaval of power just because dynamics change. And if some meaningful percentage of that oil, I doubt that it ever goes to zero. But if some meaningful percentage of the oil that's going through the traditional routes in the Middle East just moves to the US. Or if the fucking war between Russia and Ukraine ever ends and Russia gets back on the

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  international board in terms of exporting oil, does the world just start moving away from that? That's certainly all something I think that they would be extremely interested in solving. So I could see that a unity of the Muslim nations that are normalized with Israel, wanting to have stable control. Because right now, there, there's no problem with people passing the Strait of Gibraltar. So right now, that isn't something that I think anybody's worried about. What people are worried about is Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea. Red Sea obviously increasing in problem. Strait of Hormuz has been a problem now for five months. So that one to me feels like a bit of a stretch.

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  This feels much more like a territorial dispute, a immigration question, all coming off the back of what I consider to be horrific immigration policy on behalf of Europe at large, but very specifically Spain. So that's my early days read. Remember, if you're trying to mentally map me, I don't have any friction about being wrong. I'm simply trying to identify what is actually true. So if I get information that says that my current read that this is an immigration problem ends up being incorrect and there's evidence in the opposite direction, I will immediately adjust my thinking. But that's where I am at right now.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Here's a string of cause and effect and let me know where I break it, right? So Trump and Bibi meet. Trump is reportedly pissed off in the meeting, not at Bibi, but just that we haven't won the Iran war. It was supposed to be a two week war and now it's going into five months. He tries to figure out what else we can do. We are locked down with the Strait of Hormuz. We need to figure out a way to re-normalize getting the oil and getting things moved through the region. Israel's like, I can help you get things moved through the region. We just need to normalize and route things through Israel. Okay, cool. How do we do it if it's routing through Israel? Well, we just go right out through the state of the Strait of Gibraltar. Okay, well, we have to figure out how we can get Spain on board. Spain's not really messing with this. All right, well, we just did military exercise with Morocco.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  We have like normalized relations with Morocco. We just get some specific choke points. I'm using choke points as a specific term because both of these, uh, both of these cities that they were taken, they weren't on the European continent. People weren't swimming across the Atlantic. They were on the North African coast. If we control those, we are now it's us versus Spain. Spain doesn't want that smoke. They're not going to deploy their army and they would allow more free movement. I'll even go as far as to say, if we can launch, if we can make a military presence in these two territories as well, that's another way we get closer to the Iranian region. We could bring munitions in, we can reroute things from the UK. So that's where I'm starting to say like, okay, I can tilt my head and blink. Morocco gets paid.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  All the UAE countries love oil money. Morocco finally gets on the oil money train. Israel gets paid, they get more power in the region and they get to become the centerfold, just like they're the centerfold of what I would call stability. Now they could then be the centerfold of like economics. US gets a win because now we have another place that we can launch ships from. We have another place that we can drop munitions off and we can now retool and restock. And we can even ice out the Iranians. And we can say, you guys can have this rate, we'll just blow everything up in this rate, full stop. So now we cut you guys off and then we just have everything essential come through this side.

• 25:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, the way I see it is you have an internal chain of logic that is consistent. It makes some leaps that I would say are both historically accurate and have historically proven to be really stupid. We do them, but they prove to be historically stupid. So here's what you would have to believe for that to end up being a good idea. Not that it isn't the idea, but for that to be a good idea, you're using a destabilization tactic to destabilize Spain, to put them back in their place, to let them know you fuck with the US, you fuck with Israel and you get the horns. And so you guys better get back in line.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  And so now that instability has historically led to problems. And we always think, oh, we're going to go in, we're going to destabilize this region and something beautiful is going to come out the other side. This is both a tactic of the CIA and a tactic of the left as turned into a literal playbook by Lenin. So Lenin literally writes a document explaining exactly how you use this divide and conquer destabilization strategy. It ends up spreading all over the place, including China. And now we're seeing it, if your read is correct, we're seeing that here in this situation. Just as it led to massive death and turmoil in Russia, massive death and turmoil in China.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  And we're seeing now the, the fruits of that initiative in Iran, massive death in Iran. So now it's like, really? Like, I'm not saying that it's outside of the realm of plausibility. I am saying that it's, if that is what they're doing, it's likely to be stupid. Partly because right now people aren't paying money to get through choke points until we started doing that in Iran. So now you're introducing what a new choke point, like to get Morocco in on the oil money? Like, what are they doing? You're paying for protection, you're paying for safe passage? Like, what are they getting paid for exactly? So that's where I'm like, that seems very ill advised.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Again, not that it isn't true and we'll find out in the fullness of time if that's really what's going on. Because your string of logic, if the base assumptions all end up being true, sure, like that could be the attempt, but it would just be very strange. Even getting like, when you start talking about running the pipelines through the Middle East to get around the Strait of Hormuz, ending up in Israel, which Netanyahu has talked about many times. So that is for sure, part of what he wants to see happen. But I'm just like, uh, like, why all the way to Israel? Like, that's the part that I don't understand. So unless Israel is saying, listen, we're the best defended.

• 28:42Speaker 00

  And so you want to send it to us as the port of call so that we can protect all these ships and get them out safely? They would have to be making a military play. Otherwise, if I'm one of the other countries, I'm just going to run it. There's already a Saudi pipeline that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. So the only thing there is Iran can strike the pipeline, but Iran would be able to strike the pipeline in Israel. So it's like, that's the part where I'm like, everybody talking about an overland pipeline. If I'm Iran, I'm like, yeah, bitch, just go for it. I'm going to fucking hit that literally once a week. And you guys are going to be forever having to try to repair it. Eventually you're going to realize you have to bury it, you know, whatever, 40 meters underground.

• 29:24Speaker 00

  And now this becomes an extraordinarily expensive and time consuming effort to get this out. So every time I look at that solution, I'm just like, I mean, Jesus, I guess it's better than standing still. But if, if you're Iran and you've already shown that you're willing to strike infrastructure, then you just strike the pipeline. So that one seems like a bit far fetched. It seems far more likely that the playbook that they're going to run is we have to get Iran to come to heel. And so the only way I can mentally map, okay, this really is the US, this really is Israel. What would need to be true? That they're doing it as somewhat of an afterthought, that their full attention isn't on it, that somebody came to Trump was like, hey, uh, these guys want to bus a bunch of people in.

• 30:09Speaker 00

  It'll cause destabilization. Uh, it'll send a signal to Spain to stop fucking around. You'll be able to get them back in pocket. Yeah, yeah, go for it, try it, let's see what happens. Like, not like, oh yeah, this is like something that we have high degree of certainty. This is going to work well in our favor.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  I, I'm with you. I definitely think this is plan F. I don't think this is, yeah, this is on their.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  That, that's the only thing that I could see. So it's like, I'm going to guess that it's like all of the above. It is a bunch of things where it's like, the US and Israel are like, yeah, sure, why not? Israel loves having a story of somebody else that's in their same position that will be forced to defend why they have it their way. So now it's like, Israel's trying to deflect. The US, Trump gets to punish somebody who didn't do what he told them to do. Uh, but ultimately all you get is destabilization. And dude, that destabilization is like the word for the next 10 years? Like, as the global order changes. Everybody's like, now's the time to make our play.

• 31:11Speaker 00

  The US is fucking around in the Middle East. China is gonna make a move on Taiwan. The US is gonna have split focus. You've got massive instability all across Europe. Say what you will, they have massive instability. Just look at what's going on with the Nordic countries where everybody's like, yo, they've shown this socialism can work. Bitch, they're trying to get immigrants out now fast because they realize, holy shit, like, we can't pay for this. So you're gonna have like insane instability. Look at the UK. Birth rates are real, man. And so you're gonna get a collision of cultures all across Europe. Europe is already in economic trouble. They have been sinking for a very long time economically.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  It is absolutely perilous for them, what's happening economically. Now you're gonna bear the fruits of conquering via the womb, which is a stated objective of radical Islamism. And so it's just, man, that is gonna be completely destabilized. You've got what's gonna happen between the US and China? What's gonna happen to the dollar? So all of that's in play. You've got Scott Besson talking about a Bretton Woods 2.0, which there's so much crazy shit going on. That didn't even make my read at the top of the show. But like for anybody that knows what Bretton Woods was in terms of establishing the world order, economic world order that we've all been living under for the last, whatever, 80 years. And he is openly just like, yeah, yeah, we probably need a Bretton Woods 2.0.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Dude, that is literally one of the most important bureaucrats in the world telling you, we need a new economic world order. And that's, dude, that is so crazy in terms of the the amount of change. I'll put it in completely neutral terms. Just the amount of change that that is likely to bring. Like, what's that gonna look like? He's obviously gonna want something that benefits the US. Anyway, talking about destabilization. So you've got a world of change everywhere. Things are just moving. And so if you've got a politician that is legitimately looking himself in the mirror, it's like, you know what we need? We need a little more instability. That would be the dumbest shit ever.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  But you know what instability brings? Occupation. You know what occupation brings? A movement of military resources to a region that you need more military resources.

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• 35:07Speaker 01

  Nick Fuentes had a clip about this.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  Oh, I didn't see this coming. Drew, what are you doing? Okay, what's he say? Let's go. It's just all censored.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  Drew's like, okay, Tom, now that you bring that up, let's talk about Nick Fuentes. Say what?

• 35:25Speaker 01

  I literally, I was scrolling Twitter because I'm like, I feel like there should be some new information. And now I just see this. So we're gonna experience this together, guys.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  I cannot vouch for this clip. I have no idea what this loser has to say.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  Perfect timing.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Well, it's very obvious to see. The reason Republicans support the invasion of the Spanish cities is they're doing this on behalf of Israel. They're promoting Morocco's core security interests, punishing Spain at the expense of their core security interests because Spain is an adversary of Israel and Morocco is a security ally of Israel. And we know this because the State Department did the same thing in 2020. As part of the deal for Morocco to recognize Israel, the United States and Israel recognized Morocco and its claim over Western Sahara.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  This is true. Pause for a second. So the UN does not recognize Morocco's sovereignty over the Southern Sahara. And so it was a pretty big deal. Now, I wasn't paying attention to politics at all when this happened, so I can't give you the ins and outs. But it is interesting that to get the Abraham Accords done, there was a certain amount of the US coming in and just saying, yeah, we don't fucking care about the United Nations. Like, we're gonna do this new thing. We're gonna get something going here in the Middle East. And so, yeah, there are deals that were done as a part of that that at least have not been a part of the recent conversation over the last, let's say, two years, that this could be the fruit of.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's gonna go spiral into a lot of things that we already talked about. But in summation, I would say, do you think, like, your gut, it's telling you? Do you think this is just migrant policy? The thing that gets me is just how many men there were. There wasn't, not a single baby, not a single newborn, not a single taxi driver with dirty shoes. It was people who were with phones, trying to like get into the cameras. It seemed like they were brought, I don't know, it just seems very specific, the demographics of people that were transported there.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, so yes, that's real. The one thing that I'll say to this.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  I just have a question.

• 37:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  Because I was researching this while y'all were talking. Where did y'all see that Moroccan officials drop people off? Because I can't find this anywhere online. And I'm starting to wonder if that video is AI.

• 37:48Speaker 00

  Okay, always a good question. Always a good question.

• 37:51Speaker 04

  Because all the official news sources are saying, no, this didn't, that didn't happen. It was the beach video specifically with all the people running the beaches. Still the same men demographic. But I just was curious about the Moroccan official part because I don't wanna.

• 38:03Speaker 00

  Okay, you keep saying something that I did not say. So I wanna make sure that we're very clear. There was a vehicle that looked like a military vehicle that dropped all these guys off. I have no information other than that. It is, I didn't, it didn't make my radar that it was AI. There was no sort of obvious trigger. It's certainly possible. Unfortunately, we live in the era where you literally can't trust your eyes. So, yeah, that could absolutely be true and we'll see in the fullness of time. So even if we just isolate to the thing that is completely undisputed, is you have this massive flood of military-age men. So this is a phrase you're gonna hear over and over and over. Military-age men. Now, the reason that people bring that up is really twofold. One, if people are really escaping hardship,

• 38:48Speaker 00

  you would expect to see a ton of women also coming over because they're trying to get to a better life. When you see only young men, then this is usually somebody else saying, hey, it would be a good idea for you guys to go do this. Now, this is where you get into very dangerous territory and getting out of your skis can be very risky. But if you, one potential read of this is that, given that extremist members of Islam have talked very openly about you can take over by the sword, you can take over by immigration, or you can take over via the womb, or, I mean, honestly, all three.

• 39:33Speaker 00

  This one becomes a takeover by immigration. So if you know that people go into a territory, and of course, all of them, everybody, all throughout human history, it does not matter, this is not anything even remotely unique to Islamist extremists. This is just what people do, is you try to get enough people with your value system to go into an area so that you can take it over. And so, yeah, like, that does not surprise me at all. And that would certainly explain if you have somebody in the background, a government, a religious sect, whatever, you would expect them to loosely organize people and say, hey, go do this. Now, there needs to be an incentive that people believe in to get them to do it.

• 40:18Speaker 00

  As Japan has proven, you can try to get people to do something, but if they don't believe it's in their own best interest, they're not going to do it. And this is why I always think it's deranging when people say, well, Israel just made this possible for them to do it and they wanted them to do it. Take the Netanyahu admitting that he was funding Hamas. Okay, sure, and I get why everybody is mortified by that. But at the same time, if the people in Palestine didn't want Hamas, didn't believe in the things that they were fighting for, then it wouldn't take root, it wouldn't be popular, it wouldn't be able to grow in the way that it did. So you've got to have people that actually believe those things,

• 41:01Speaker 00

  that when you give them the opportunity to do something, that they will actually do it. So take the rise of communism here in the US. You can propagandize people all you want, all throughout the universities, but if you don't break the economy, it doesn't end up working. So you need both. You need the economy to be broken so that people are ready to drink up that ideology. So if you open your borders, but people don't wanna leave, like, Canada could open their borders all day. I'm not leaving America to go be in Canada.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  That part, you need both sides of the equation. You need the opportunity and you need the impetus. And so the question becomes, what is it that makes them want to do this? And so you have to answer that question. Now, if you're saying that, okay, this is people that are fleeing hardship. Again, it will not be only young men. And so whatever your hypothesis is, it's got to explain what I actually see with my own eyes. Why is it only young men? And so that needs an explanation. I just gave you one possible explanation of that. But it needs to be explained by something. So that's where I think people have to really start. Instead of just getting swept up in a narrative, you've got to build that line of cause and effect that explains both sides.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Israel wanting it to happen, the US wanting it to happen, will not suffice. There has to be a reason why the horde of people are actually doing it.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, and there were dozens of people that died in the way of trying to get over there, so. It was forty-three. Forty-three. That's the most common number right now. So definitely want to.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  I've also heard that people were killed on the ground. So it's not like they, they just died in transit. And I'll be interested to see how many people were Spanish that ended up getting killed. Like, if you look at the people going in, there's open fighting on the streets. You've got people breaking into houses, breaking into stores. Literally, like I said, there was one guy, I don't know if you can find the video, but there's one guy who had a ladder up against a like second or third story window, smashing the glass, trying to get in. So all of this stuff is inevitable. When you have a swarm of forty-nine thousand people. So to give you a bit of context, there are only fifty thousand US troops in the Middle East right now in the middle of a war.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  So when you have essentially the same number of people going into a small town, like, what are we going to expect there? So it'll be interesting to see how many of the deaths were violent? And how many of the deaths were like, ooh, I slipped off the rock and I fell into the water? So we'll see.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, staying in the region while all this was going on, Saudi Arabia and the Houthis are getting back into some beef. So let's jump over there.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, so Saudi Arabia and the Houthis are now just shooting at each other straight up directly for the first time since the 2022 truce. On July twentieth, the Houthis declared an evil blockade of Saudi, being able to ship through the Bab al-Nadab Strait. We've talked about this before. Some people are framing this as retaliation for the July thirteenth strike on the Sinai Airport. Sanai, I'm not sure how to pronounce that, S-A-N-A-A Airport. A strike that Yemen's internationally recognized government claimed, and the Houthis blamed on Riyadh. So you've got like all this tension, longstanding tension between the Houthis and the Saudis. Remember, this is really a proxy battle between Iran and Riyadh,

• 44:31Speaker 00

  which, if my understanding is correct, these are different sects of Islam that are going after each other. And so there's, I think, in the West, a lot of mythology or just plain misunderstanding around what's going on in the Middle East. It is not the Muslims against the infidels. You have infighting Muslim-to-Muslim violence that's been going on for an extraordinarily long time. And so that is a huge part of this, and that's what's playing out there. So as we see the Red Sea get clamped down on, this is where the Chinese brokering deals with the Houthis to get everything through. But the specific targets are Saudi oil being stopped. That's where all of this stuff gets crazy.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  And so how far is this going to go? We'll see. But it's like, when I read about this story, I was like, dude, this is exactly how a regional conflict begins to draw more people in. Because originally, this was like US-led. Everybody knew this was US-led. And everybody was really surprised when the UAE started getting hit, Saudis started getting hit, Qatar started getting hit. Everybody's like, why the fuck, what? And now it's like, oh, you didn't understand that there were longstanding beef already in the region? And that we had a hot shooting war between the Houthis and Saudi Arabia back in 2022? It's been sort of this uneasy truce. And so now we're beginning to see like, who's going to line up with Iran?

• 45:57Speaker 00

  Who's lining up with the countries that have normalized relations with Israel? And remember, a lot of people said that October seventh was about that, that the Palestinians were feeling isolated on the world stage because everybody was normalizing relationships with Israel. And so they had to act immediately if they were, you know, ever going to have any way out from under this. If you understand Hamas as an Iranian proxy group, and Iran being the one who really doesn't want to see that, that they want to keep the instability so that they can continue to try to get to a dominant position, to get the US out, to become a hegemon in the region, to bully that region into their way of life,

• 46:39Speaker 00

  then this starts to become a very different outlook when everybody, I think, one of the dominant narratives was that, no, no, no, this is really just about the US coming in and making trouble in the Middle East, not being honest about how much friction there already was in the Middle East between different sects of Islam. So, yeah, you put it back in that context, and now it's like, okay, if Saudi Arabia is starting to have their own beef with Iran, and going after the Houthis directly, and Iran is going to continue to try to fund them to create another pain point, not just for the US, definitely for the US, but not just for the US, but also directly as a way to have a fight with Saudi Arabia.

• 47:20Speaker 00

  So then it becomes, okay, the UAE at one point was doing strikes directly in Iran. In fact, there was a story coming out, I couldn't verify enough of the facts, so take this as just pure speculation. But people are saying that there are actually troops from the UAE doing strikes inside of Iran. What I couldn't figure out is, did they mean ground troops that are actually running missions inside of Iran? Or are they talking that they're doing drone strikes? What's going on? But anyway, that there are many claims that the UAE is now striking Iran directly themselves. So you've got Saudi going against Iran via the Houthis in Yemen. So now, does the Yemeni government get involved?

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Is it just gonna be red as something against the Houthis? How does that play out? You've got the UAE being pulled in directly, no longer just as like, well, we're standing in unity with the United States, but they're attacking Iran directly. You've got Russia and Iran sending weapons back and forth, and the Ukraine, sorry, Ukraine, saying, yo, we're not going to tolerate that. And so, man, this is how you start getting a lot of players into this. You start merging the war in Russia, between Russia and Ukraine, with the war between the US and Iran, which is now spreading regionally, and very rapidly, depending on what happens with China, this very rapidly starts looking like the early stages of a world war.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  Like, it, it is very unnerving. And yeah, this is a time where we should want all of this to come to an end as quickly as possible. But I certainly don't see the off ramp.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Tom, I'm gonna do something that you hate.

• 48:59Speaker 00

  Please.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  I'm gonna make you president.

• 49:00Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  What are we, what are, like, this is a lot.

• 49:05Speaker 00

  Just know that button was pressed by somebody whose job is in my hands. So I don't know that I would take, yeah. I don't know that I would take it too seriously. But, okay, keep going.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  Cause there's one thing, Trump stepped in some poop, then can't wipe it off his shoe, and now we're stuck in Iran. I get that.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  But with everything now escalating, and what it seems like in three different places, it's kind of like you're at a party, and you're like, okay, I think that guy doesn't like me. I need to figure out how to maneuver the situation so I can get home safely. And then you see a fight by the door, and then some other guy was like, yeah, I heard you was talking shit two times, and now you're like, wait a second. Like, like, it starts to get, feels like you're closing in.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, help.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Okay, well, here's the really bad news. And it's either bad news about the way that my mind works, or the bad news about the way the world works.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  Now that we are in this position, we have to be so dominant in Iran that they can't fight back. And if we're not going to be able to put ourselves in that position, then we're in trouble, because we are in the octagon. So now you're fighting. So what's your way out of the octagon? You, you win. And by the way, you're in the octagon. This is something that's always freaked me out about mixed martial arts. You are locked in a cage with somebody who is legitimately trying to steal your consciousness from you, or to damage your arm or your leg, one of your joints so badly that you'll need surgery. That's what's actually happening. That's what's on the other side of the cage. And it is only your own strength and your own ability to fight and be smart that stops somebody from actually breaking your joints, man.

• 50:38Speaker 00

  And so that's why I'm like, kids, this game is hyper dangerous. Now, I love the USC, but UFC, but I am shocked that it ever gained the kind of popularity that it's gained, because it is actual permanent lifelong damage that is often done to somebody in that ring, and that is wild. And so when you take that to actual life and death, which is what we see playing out, there is no option at this stage. There's the diplomatic before we get into it. But there's no option at this stage, other than inflict so much damage on that person, break their joints, to the point where they tap out and they want the fight to end. That's it, man. And unfortunately, unlike in the UFC, where the fight can just reach a natural conclusion,

• 51:23Speaker 00

  and the refs come in and they go, ah, cool, you guys did a great fight, but nobody could stop the other person, and so here's where we're at. It doesn't work like that. You either run out of will to fight, or you're, like in the case of Japan, you just, so many people have died, you can't keep fighting. So that's where we're at, man. So if I'm at the house party, to use that analogy, I am reminded that I've got eighteen cars out front with the biggest pipe-hitting motherfuckers you've ever seen in your life. And I send out the nine-one-one text, and they all come into the house, and I'm just like, as a quick reminder, if you guys don't back the fuck off, these guys start beating you to death, right here. And that's it. And then the first guy moves, and literally you beat him to death.

• 52:08Speaker 00

  The second guy moves, you beat him to death. You grab a third, just to be like, I fucking told you, you beat him to death. And then you go, are you guys done? The fourth guy comes, you beat him to death. Then you beat five, six, and seven to death, just as like, hey, the last time, I fucking told you, I gave you a chance, you didn't take it. And if they don't exit ramp at that point, you just start beating everyone to death. And then, dude, it's so heinous. I hate that that's true. But keep in mind, this is me having read a fuck-ton of history. And I'm just telling you, this is the game. This is how it plays out. People don't want it to be true, they want morality to come in. It's just, that's not the game anymore. People do not understand how violent of an animal humans are. We are extraordinarily dangerous. And here is something, put this on a T-shirt.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  Weakness does not invite friendship, it invites contempt. When you are weak, people do not rush to your aid and be like, oh my god. Strong men come and they fucking beat you to death and they take your women, boys and girls. Boys and girls. Do we really want to go here?

• 53:14Speaker 01

  Come on, we're already here. We didn't kill seven people at the party.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  I think we killed more than that, Drew.

• 53:22Speaker 00

  I'm gonna get text messages on this one.

• 53:26Speaker 00

  In the Quran, they highlight a truth about humans that has nothing to do uniquely with Islam. It is merely highlighting a truth about humans. Women are considered booty of conquest.

• 53:46Speaker 00

  It literally says in the Quran, "You can have as many women as you can keep in your right hand." Meaning, that's not the exact word, ding, it's very close. As many as you can with your right hand. Fuck, I forget the exact words. Ryan's gonna look them up.

• 53:57Speaker 04

  What am I looking up?

• 53:57Speaker 00

  You're looking up the exact phrase from the Quran about you can have as many women as you hold in your right hand, which is talking about victory in war. And so, once you understand that's humans, that humans are like, "Oh, I'm gonna kill everybody." "Psych, just kidding, I'm not gonna kill the women, those I'm gonna rape." And so, that is humanity, okay? That is how fucking dark humans get. Same thing, just to make sure everybody understands this is humans. Let me tell you a story about Japan, which is about America. I can't believe the following statement is true, but it is true. So, America drops two nuclear bombs in Japan, Japan finally says, "Fuck, we gotta stop." The general, who is basically, for reasons I could explain later,

• 54:40Speaker 00

  there's one general who becomes the king of Japan for like three years as America turns Japan into a normal country. And they go, "I'm gonna send home all of the American soldiers that actually fought because they saw their friends stabbed and killed, and so they'll just fucking kill every Japanese person they see. And so, we gotta get rid of them. We're gonna bring in all these young bucks." And they don't have any beef, other than propaganda that reached America, and they're gonna be the ones that help Japan transition. Only catches, they're fucking raping a lot. And so, we've gotta do something. And so, we're going to go to a set of Japanese women and we're gonna say, "Listen,

• 55:22Speaker 00

  I know you've been trained that you're Japan first, that everybody during World War II was basically given the mentality of a kamikaze pilot, so whether you were at home or you were on the frontlines, you were told to be ready to die for your country." So, everybody like had that mentality. So they go to these women and they say, "Look, as a contribution to your nation, I need you to be a prostitute." And so they were like, "Okay, word." And until gonorrhea and syphilis tore through like 70% of American soldiers, they just had these official, out in the open, like comfort groups of Japanese women

• 56:03Speaker 00

  who were like, "All right, cool, I guess this is my job to be a prostitute." Now, I've said it already, but just as a quick pop quiz, why were they doing that? To stop American soldiers from raping the Japanese women. They weren't like, "Yo, we gotta go lock these boys up and send a message." They were like, "We gotta get them prostitutes." That's humans, okay? Genghis Khan, he would go in, same thing. "We're gonna kill all the men, we're gonna kill the kids, but the women we're gonna take." Those are gonna be sex slaves. So, it is humans, man. But, in this particular moment, that is, and this is where you as a Christian really get to like have a like fucking flag in the ground and be like, "Yo, my guy did it right."

• 56:48Speaker 00

  If somebody takes your coat, what do you give them?

• 56:50Speaker 01

  Your shirt.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Correct. Totally different vibe. But the problem is, that's the West. And so the West is like, "Oh, people are flooding into my country and they want my jacket, cool, I'm gonna give my shirt as well." Uh-oh, what did Tom just say about what, when you signal weakness, it invites contempt. It does not invite, it does not invite friendship. And so now, oh god, never in a million years did I think I was gonna be talking about this shit. Now you get into the Crusades. Oh no, this unfortunately is not a fractal. Bad button, there, if you wanna do something for me, you hit the help button. Because I'm like, dude, do you know how often I'm sitting going, "Why don't I just go make video games?" Dude, I feel some weird moral obligation to talk about all this.

• 57:34Speaker 00

  Okay, anyway, I have a feeling this is not end well for me, but nonetheless.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  Okay, thank you. So, the Western world, being super Christian, right now, we have a very soft form of Christianity. What history teaches us, the Christianity that stops the death of Christians is the Crusades. Once you understand the Crusades were actually a response to Islamic expansion, you start going, "Uh-oh, we have a gear over here on the Christian side that goes, 'Oh, you wanna play? Let's play.'" And dude, this is not the world or the era that I wanna live in, but it's the era that we're in. And so, the West is going to be asked a very simple question.

• 58:21Speaker 00

  Are you going to be the muscular West that ends up pushing back? Or are you going to be the, if you take my jacket, here's my shirt, West that as a reminder, Constantinople used to be Christian, not anymore. North Africa used to be Christian, not anymore. Lebanon used to be Christian, not anymore. So, there unfortunately is extraordinarily long history of Muslims and Christians killing each other. And so, yeah, welcome to 2026.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Man, man, well done, sir. Well done, well done.

• 59:03Speaker 04

  So here's the verse I found. This is the full verse translated to English. And so, for anyone looking, it's "For Anissa," if I'm pronouncing that right, "But it's also forbidden our married women, except female captives in your possession. This is Allah's commandment to you, lawful to you, or all beyond these, as long as you seek them with your wealth, in a legal marriage, not in fornication."

• 59:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's not the one that I was looking for. If you do the search for the right hand, and almost certainly if you just search for Quran verse about right-hand women, something like that.

• 59:35Speaker 04

  I typed that and that's what it brought up. But what's the full verse again, though?

• 59:39Speaker 00

  I can't, I don't know it well enough.

• 59:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  All right.

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's still pointing me back to this one. It says, "What your right hand possesses is the translation," but it's the same verse.

• 59:53Speaker 00

  Got it. So the idea of your right hand possesses at least everything I've ever come across referencing this is about what you can take in conquest. So, if somebody has-

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  They're saying you can take a wife in conquest as long as it's seeking it through valid means and not just fornication.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  But I want you to imagine, I roll up to your city and I win a war. I've killed your husband, and now I take you as a wife.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, no, it's not good. It's, I'm just trying to say that like, it's, we have to be specific, right? It's like if I were to say the same thing about Christianity or Judaism, that's also in their Old Testament, because that was the time.

• 1:00:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, okay, so, oh god.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  No, I pulled it up.

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  No, I know, I know. You've touched on a subject I doubt you have encountered, which is, here's part of the problem.

• 1:00:44Speaker 00

  Okay, let's put a very careful road marker. We are talking about extremist views on Islam. We are not talking about what is almost certainly the overwhelming vast majority of Muslims who have a very compatible with the West, like, "I just want a rad life, I wanna pray to my god and let you pray to your god and everything is good," view on it. And it is horrific that that gets swept up in all of this. There are ideas in the Quran that when read from a like, "No, no, no, this is like the way it's meant to be interpreted,"

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  it just gets a little more aggressive than other religions who don't happen to have something as hardcore. So, for instance-

• 1:01:35Speaker 00

  Part of the reason that extremism finds root in Islam is because that Muhammad is the final word, he's the final revelation, he's the final prophet, and so, nothing will ever come after him. So you didn't get that same read off of the Old Testament, which is why Jesus comes along, remember Jesus was a Jew, and he was like, actually, this is what God wants and meant and all of that. And then, obviously, you get the Reformation, going through the Christian church, and people don't have this same sense of like, but no, wait, the Old Testament was the final word of God, and therefore, right, it just doesn't.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  And so, you don't get, it's not that you don't get fundamentalists who become dangerous, you just don't get them en masse, in the way that you get when none of, neither Jesus nor any of his apostles were political or military leaders. Unfortunately, for Islam, Muhammad was both. So, he was a prophet, but he was also a political leader and a very talented general. So, now, you have like these three phases of Islam, where some of them get pretty like hardcore about conquering and taking things, and that's where it gets

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  a little unnerving. So, to bring it all back to what you said that made me want to go down that path, is that you can imagine, if you were counseling that woman, whose husband is, you know, dead in the corners, entrails are everywhere, he's been beheaded, and you're like, listen, you have to understand, like, this is the way that some people are reading this is not quite the right way. She's gonna be like, fuck you, he's gonna take me as his wife, I don't wanna be his wife, I want my husband to not be dead. And so, this is going to be very cold comfort, that read.

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  I agree with you. All I am saying is that this same verse and the same ideology is traced back to those other religions. Like, this Deuteronomy verse here, says, "When you go to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands, and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman, and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife." I understand the New Testament, throws out the Old Testament, I'm not even saying that.

• 1:03:51Speaker 00

  Doesn't throw out the Old Testament, it, let's say it reforms it.

• 1:03:54Speaker 04

  It reforms it. And I'm not even saying I'm excusing what's in the Quran, I'm just trying to say, this is something that is across all three of the Abrahamic religions, and I think a lot of people neglect that, that's all I'm pointing out.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  I'm not sure that people neglect it, and I think it's a really good point to bring up, because it's so important to understand, and again, we are talking about extremists, but I think it's very important to understand why you, as a hypothesis, why you end up getting a, an easier time getting people to be extreme in the modern era, on the side of Islam, in a way that you're not on the Christian side. And so, when you ask that question, again, it is, there, the vast majority of Muslims do not take a radical interpretation. But

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  there are more things that you're going to have to, and I'm talking Christianity, so, New Testament, Jesus, as an interpreter, as somebody who's telling you, no, no, no, this is what God really meant, right, takes you down a much more genteel, loving, embracing the individual, is where the spark of divinity lives, all of that stuff, right, that ideology takes you in one direction. Then you have another ideology, that when read, in an extremist way, just has more things that are easier to grab on to than Christianity does. And so, it is important to note how many evil things have been done in the name of Christianity,

• 1:05:29Speaker 00

  and that part of the Reformation, part of them holding themselves accountable to that, part of them trying to bend towards something that is more just, is like, okay, cool, how did they pull that off, what did they have to do, and how can Muslims, because I think this is only a thing for them to do, how do they make sure that they have a similar Reformation that bends in a similar direction, and you find a path to getting away from some of those like reads of this. Now, the problem is, so, if you know about the, the Golden Age of Islam, okay, if I'm not mistaken, and anybody that sees a mistake that I'm

• 1:06:12Speaker 00

  making here, because I'm new enough to this stuff, I'm sure I'm making mistakes. But, the Golden Age of Islam happens in Iran, as the Persian Empire is merging with the Islamic takeover. And because of the particular read that was being given, they had a strong economy, they were trying to blend with the Persians, and so, it becomes a much more subdued version. They take more like what I'll call gentle reads on things. But then, and I don't remember what year this ends up happening, you get an Imam that comes in, that's like, no, no, no, you guys are all misreading this, this is all bullshit, you're betraying Muhammad,

• 1:06:55Speaker 00

  we've got to get back to the truth, and you end up in the Dark Ages, because he burns all the books, literally burns all the books. And the quote goes something like, anything that disagrees with the word of the Quran, or the word of Muhammad, needs to be burned, and anything that agrees with it is redundant, because we already have the Quran, and so, they need to be burned, and so, they get fucking burned. Now, the Renaissance becomes, at least in part, because people start fleeing the region, Muslims also push into Greece, and so, you get knowledge fleeing Greece, and so, this is how Europe ends up going through its Renaissance, because they are literally taking all this incredible knowledge

• 1:07:33Speaker 00

  that was in Greece, in Iran, the Persian Empire, and they bring it to the West. And so, it's like, this is where you get these cycles, where people go back to this more fundamental read, and because there's so much in there about war, and conquest, and jihad, it's like, ah, like, it gets harder, when an Imam rises up, that says, you guys are being untrue to the word, it gets harder to be like, no, no, no, we're the right ones, you're wrong. Same thing with the Ayatollah Khomeini, same thing, you guys aren't being pious enough, you guys are misreading, you're too soft, like, you've gone secular, this

• 1:08:13Speaker 00

  is some bullshit. And he comes back on like this wave of like hardcore orthodox reads. And so, you'll see the same thing in Judaism, you see psychopaths that are reading the Torah in a way that's like, well, God promised us this land, and we're gonna take it all, a thousand percent. And so, the question becomes, okay, how does that society keep a lid on that, because Jews are fucking terrible at procreating, first of all, so, they just have no sort of overt takeover, and certainly not by the sword. But you do see that coming out of extremist Islam. And so, that's where I'm like, hey, you're right, we need to look

• 1:08:57Speaker 00

  at these, the books, say some unhinged shit, all the books of Abraham, but that one's been easier to tamp down. Certainly Christianity's done a phenomenal, I mean, do we agree on that? Christianity's done a phenomenal job of keeping their extremists at bay, not that there are zero.

• 1:09:14Speaker 04

  Well, what are we defining extremist, because I would-

• 1:09:16Speaker 00

  If you're killing people.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Okay, then yeah, they have done a better job. But if we're defining, I mean, that's a whole different argument. And my whole point was just, I think we just need to recognize that all three of these have similar texts in that regard, it's not the text, it's not the religion, it's the extremists that take that text and interpret it the way they want to. That's what I was getting at.

• 1:09:36Speaker 00

  So, what, what I'm really trying to drive home is, I agree with you, like, with my entire body. And now, because that's so true, there's been a natural experiment of, you've got Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, now, let's look at who's done the best job of stopping, in a modern context, their adherents from killing other people. And I would say, it goes Christianity, Judaism, and then Islam.

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  But do you think, and this is just, I'm just a question, do you think the religion plays the role in that, or do you think it's more the culture, the area of the world, the history of that country, that's what I mean, like, I don't-

• 1:10:18Speaker 00

  There's no way to tease it out.

• 1:10:19Speaker 04

  Think it's the religion's fault. I, like, the problem is, I see a lot of people in chat, saying things like, we have this jihadist movement coming to Spain, and it's like, that's not, you're labeling all Muslims jihadist, right?

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  No, no, hold on, I don't think, first of all, there's, obviously, you're not saying this, but I'm just saying, nobody's gonna say that about me, I mean, they will say it, but I've been very, I've gone to extraordinary lengths.

• 1:10:39Speaker 04

  No, no, chat's saying it, I'm not saying you're saying that, yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:41Speaker 00

  So, I'm certainly not saying that. And I, to say that there is a jihadist movement is accurate, and so, now, it becomes a question of, is it an interpretation of jihad that is merely, no, no, no, this is a spiritual war, that could be one. And the reason I say that, that's just blatant fact, is that you can go on YouTube right now and find 150 people saying, this is jihad, like, we're not trying to hide it, like, that's what it is. Now, what does that word mean, you're gonna get a lot of interpretations. You're gonna get people who say, this is a purely spiritual thing, you're gonna get people who say, this is a political thing, and the fact that we are not afraid to fight for what we believe in, and that we call a jihad, you guys don't need to freak out

• 1:11:23Speaker 00

  about that. Like, we are instructed by our God to do that, and it's got a word, and that word is jihad, and if you choose to interpret that as a military thing, you're way off base, and that isn't it. There are some people that say that it is military, that conquering by the sword is one of the options, but maybe that's a tiny fraction of people, okay, cool. But like, being careful to tease those things out is fine, but hand waving away and saying, oh, this isn't jihad, that's an inaccurate representation. Muslims cannot be turned into a monolith, so, anytime anybody says, blanket Muslims, that's foolish. As we see, you've got warring factions of Muslims in the Middle East, there's already

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  two major sects that have been killing each other for a very long time. So, yeah, they're not a monolith. What the one single point I'm trying to make right now is, I think that because Muhammad was, he went on this extraordinary life arc of going from first I'm a prophet, nobody's really giving me the time of day. People really start to listen to what I'm saying and I become politically important. And so I start making laws. And then I realize I'm actually an extraordinary military strategist. And so now I'm going to go on conquest. And so you can see these three beats of his life, where it's very conciliatory in the beginning when he's small and weak, which is smart, by the way.

• 1:12:51Speaker 00

  And so you get like the Islam is a religion of peace largely from that period. But then, as he gets more powerful in the political element, he starts making verses of the Quran that tell you how to live, right? By this is how the policies of the land should be. And then as he goes into being a conquering hero, it those start working their way into that. Now, if Jesus had gone on the Crusades and had conquered places and then was like, yo, let me tell you how you think about war. It's like, uh oh, like that would have introduced ideas into a quote unquote sacred text

• 1:13:32Speaker 00

  that I think would end up creating problems for the faith down the road. And that is the only thing I'm putting on the table is if I'm a moderate Muslim and I'm, I'm loving what's going on in the West. It, they're beautiful places, incredible architecture. I want to be a part of that, but I want to follow my God and my way. Then I'm looking at this going, god damn it. Like, we've got these people on the extreme that are creating problems. As I would expect Christians to look at somebody like Timothy McVeigh. And I would expect them to be like, oh, fucking hell. Like, you're giving us such a bad reputation. And so that's where I'm like, the, the path before Muslims is not like, oh, we've got to get people away from Islam.

• 1:14:17Speaker 00

  It's how do we make this something where it's compatible with a broader world? It's compatible with religious freedom? And I think that is always going to have a flank to which it is vulnerable to orthodox interpretations that will give you things like, remember Muhammad personally oversaw the beheading of like 600, I think Jews. But certainly, and this was in Medina, I'm pretty sure. So it's like, ah, it gets pretty tough to say that Muhammad's not down with beheading the infidels.

• 1:14:54Speaker 04

  So you don't think right now, and this is just a clarifying question. The Muslim faith is compatible with Western society?

• 1:15:05Speaker 00

  No, I didn't say that. In fact, I said the exact opposite.

• 1:15:07Speaker 04

  Well, no, no, I was curious for the clarification because that's what it, the-

• 1:15:09Speaker 00

  So what, what I'm saying is very simply, religious texts need to be reinterpreted as the world changes. And when your book is accidentally written in a way that allows you to reinterpret it as Christianity was, then you're in a much better position. People can modernize it and it ends up being great. I'm not Christian, but I'm very grateful to live in a Christian nation.

• 1:15:39Speaker 00

  Then you have other books that maybe are written in a different way and they create vulnerabilities that as a moderate Muslim, which I would assume is, I mean, let's ballpark it to 85%. Just the absolute staggering overwhelming majority. I'm perfectly happy to assume that's true. They have a vulnerability of the orthodox interpretation being impossible to hand wave away. And so throughout history, we've seen the rise of imams that go, you guys are not reading this accurately. And let me flip to, you know, 56 verses or hadiths that explain why you're wrong. And then people are like, fuck, I am wrong. Because it, you have to say, yeah, I know it says that,

• 1:16:24Speaker 00

  but I don't think it's right to beat my wife even if she gets out of pocket. I don't think it's okay to hit her even if like you can't see the bruises. I just don't think it's okay. And so, but now an Imam can go, but bro, it's right here. Or I don't think it like, here is one of the catches that fucking as a moderate Muslim, you must be tearing your hair out over. That Aisha was six years old when Muhammad married her and nine years old when they consummated it. And so now it's like, okay, how do you justify having sex with a nine year old? Well, you say it was a different time. You say she went through puberty and she was consenting. It was not painful because her body had already changed.

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  And it's like, yikes, that is a tough place to be in a modern context to have to justify. The prophet like went way out of his way to describe her, his wife, how she becomes his wife, when they consummated the marriage. Ah, and so now,

• 1:17:21Speaker 00

  how do you say like, okay, Muhammad is the final word of God. He marries a six year old, has sex with a nine year old. Yes, she went through puberty. Cool. I'll give you that. It was a different time. Maybe girls went through puberty earlier. Like, ah, even though, ah, they doesn't back that up. But let's just say, it's like Jesus, you still have to say, it does say that, like-

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  It, it does, but just like the, oh, we probably should move on.

• 1:17:49Speaker 01

  We're, we're, we're looping. We're looping. Uh, okay, moving on. Uh, we were going to talk about Hamas, uh, Trump cut a deal.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  TLDR, he says he's going to bring peace. They have a deal. It's a 20 point, a 20 point plan. I feel like I heard this before. We all heard this before. Let's see in two weeks if it's still active.

• 1:18:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, this one breaks my heart. I'm going to be completely honest. Trump announced on Thursday night that Hamas has agreed to complete disarmament. I thought I was being trolled. I thought this was AI. I thought there's no way this is real because nobody is talking about it. The tweet that I saw had virtually no traction whatsoever. But Hamas has actually confirmed it. So negotiators signed a disarmament framework with the US led Board of Peace. And this is the first time the group has put its name on any agreement to give up weapons. So this is actually a pretty big deal. So why are people not actually going for it? And I think the reason is that nobody expects this to stand. So there are already cracks as of this morning where Hamas is saying, wait, hold on a second. That's not exactly what we agreed to.

• 1:18:53Speaker 00

  First of all, Palestinians are going to be in control of the weapons at all times. So it's like all these caveats. We'll see if it goes through. There's some weirdness about, I don't know if Netanyahu's just outright rejected it or if rumors are that he rejected it, but it certainly isn't being just warmly embraced. And so when you look at why it's not gaining traction, even though this should be a really big deal, it's, nobody's really looking at it as a win. Hamas isn't going to be like, yay, we're disarming. Israel, if they still want to keep their campaign going, obviously is not going to be like, hey, they're disarming. And so it's going to be very interesting to see what actually happens. Because the one refrain that you hear over and over and over is if Israel puts down their weapons, there will be no more Jews.

• 1:19:38Speaker 00

  But if Hamas were to disarm, then there would be peace overnight. Well, we're about to find out. Now, will Hamas actually disarm? Will Israel try to do something to, you know, obviously behind the scenes to try to like spark this off and get them pissed again so that they can keep going after them? We're about to find out, but it makes me very sad that this is something that everybody's just like, yeah, good luck with that. But the Board of Peace, I think, was a huge part of the hostage release, if memory serves correctly. And so nobody believed that they were going to be able to pull that off. So I mean, fingers crossed, man. Nothing would be more awesome than there actually being a true and lasting peace between Israel and Palestine.

• 1:20:22Speaker 00

  This is not popular anymore, but certainly having them both be a state and be able to build their economies, boy, oh, boy. Would that be wonderful? I don't think we're at the border of that, even if this is a ceasefire, but yeah, that'd be wonderful.

• 1:20:39Speaker 01

  We shall see.

• 1:20:42Speaker 01

  I just found out in the chat that Elvis Presley married his, uh, met his girl when she was 14.

• 1:20:48Speaker 04

  There's a whole movie about it, Priscilla.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  14, she was 24.

• 1:20:52Speaker 04

  Oh, oh, you're saying that she was still like young when they first met though?

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was 14, he was 24.

• 1:20:57Speaker 00

  Now, I don't know how to, I don't know what to believe, obviously, if you watch documentaries and stuff on him, that they kept a platonic until she was 18. Yeah, A, Drew's face says it all.

• 1:21:12Speaker 04

  He died on the toilet.

• 1:21:13Speaker 00

  B, it's still fucking weird for you to court somebody who's 14. Now, if there were a religion that said that Elvis was the final word of God, I would feel very differently and not just say, he was a fucking pedophile.

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  I didn't even go down that road. I was about to bring up Woody Allen. You brought it back to the other.

• 1:21:30Speaker 00

  Bro, that one is the fucking freakiest of all time.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  That was weird.

• 1:21:34Speaker 00

  That was the best use of that sound ever. That one is unhinged.

• 1:21:39Speaker 01

  I don't know how he's beating that allegations, bro.

• 1:21:41Speaker 00

  He hasn't, but the fact that he's still married to her is like the wildest shit.

• 1:21:46Speaker 04

  Did they move or are they still in America?

• 1:21:49Speaker 00

  I don't know the answer to that question. Here's where I will say, my wife has this whole idea, it's not her idea, but she has had people on the show that talk about it, coercive control. That's the one thing I will say, that guy is like, had to do something to her mind because she was so young, oh my god. That, yeah, when I see photos of them together, I just see a hostage, man.

• 1:22:10Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm gonna give you a three tweet setup and then I will pass you the ball, but I think that first, we gotta start off with Bukele, the prime minister, he had a banger tweet.

• 1:22:22Speaker 00

  He's president, yeah?

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  President, oh, they do president over there, my bad.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  He's president of El Salvador?

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:27Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  He had a banger tweet that I feel like I haven't been able to shake. He said, "This may be unpopular, but we never escaped the 2008 financial crisis, we just shifted the pain." And I feel like, we've been talking to a lot of economists lately, and they've all have kept going back to 2000, 2008, and we keep thinking that it was like, oh, COVID is what killed us, but it was like stacking, like stacking effects. Tweet number two, economy numbers just released, the economy slowed down to 1.5 growth right in Q2, June core inflation is 3.3, and then the third thing will be the best, Brenton Woods 2.0, but I wanted to kind of set those up, like they're all, something is awry with the US economy in different like.

• 1:23:08Speaker 00

  Something is awry with the global economy. Look at what's going on in South Korea, like there, I saw somebody tweet out, I thought this was really good, because they're, they're now spiking again. So they fell by like some ungodlike 70% of me, which is absolutely catastrophic. And now it's spiking back up like some massive amount. And so it's basically entire, a nation's entire economy is acting like a meme stock? And it's like, god damn, that is a brutal indictment. So, yes, to bring you guys up to speed on what just happened with the Fed and all the numbers, the Fed held rates at 3.5 to 3.75%. The vote was 9-3 though, Beth Hammack, Neil Kashkari, and Lori Logan, all dissented in

• 1:23:53Speaker 00

  favor of a quarter point hike. That's the most dissent since September of 2016, and it's the seventh straight month where they haven't made a change. Now, the announcement is truly in Warch's new style. The statement was short, it's basically identical to what happened in June, and they closed with like a simple one liner, which is that the committee will deliver price stability. Now, I wish them the best of luck with that, because that is going to be very difficult for the Fed to actually control. Now, Warch gave no forward guidance. He said, "There is no soft inflation target, there's no implicit target, it's just 2%. That's our mandate, 2%, we're going for it." He also said that the Fed is gonna keep targeting the PCE, which is basically stripping out

• 1:24:38Speaker 00

  the really important things like food and energy, but they are volatile, so you try to get like a better sense of what's going on, but that that could change once the reports from his task forces come in, so we'll see what happens. Now, the interesting part is what happened in the bond market. So, the 30-year treasury yield hit 5.21%, it's the highest yield since 2007, the 10-year went to nearly 4.69, the 2-year though, fell 4 basis points, the Dow dropped over 1,000 points, and the 30-year mortgage right now is about 6.58%. As Drew was saying, Q2 GDP has slowed to 1.5%, you annualize, when you annualize it,

• 1:25:21Speaker 00

  and that's down from 2.1%, which was already just like depression inducing, so this is bad. We were expecting 1.8%, didn't even get that, which again, 1.8% is god awful. The June PCE fell though, so the inflation rate fell from 3.7% to 3.7%, excuse me, from 4.1, and core came in at 3.3, so that's above target for what, like five years running now? So, this is, this is not looking good, boys and girls. And so, understanding what's going on in the bond market is very important. So what the bond market is telling you is, this is probably not an inflation story.

• 1:26:06Speaker 00

  What this is likely to be, because you get a difference in the long tail and the 2-year, if this were just inflation, you'd expect 2-year to go up as well, but it went down. And so, what I think this looks like is, they are expecting them to make a change, right, given the dissenting, they're expecting them to raise rates, but they're effectively punishing them for not doing it right now. And so they're saying this delay is, I'm gonna cost you, and so I'm gonna expect you to start paying me more to hold this. Now, the reason that I think that people are expecting there to be a long-term problem is that nobody trusts how the US government is going to handle the financial crisis that we're in the middle of right now.

• 1:26:48Speaker 00

  Obviously, I've talked a lot about this, you have instability in Japan, which is going to feed into this, you've got China, that's trying to get out from under the dollar, that's being very serious about gold, you have the fact that gold now is the number one reserve asset, it is no longer US treasuries, you've got China selling US treasuries, Japan selling US treasuries, two of the biggest historical buyers, and so who's going to buy the US debt? Keeping in mind that we're $2 trillion, running a $2 trillion deficit annually, every year, we're at now 40 or almost $40 trillion in debt. So it's like, people are looking at that going, "Bro, if you want me to hold US debt, you're going to pay for that privilege." So people don't believe either that the Fed is going to do the right things, or they

• 1:27:32Speaker 00

  don't believe that the Fed can do anything to change the direction that we're going. If you guys know Lynn Alden, and her whole idea of, once you get into fiscal dominance, meaning how the government spends money, controls everything, you're in fiscal dominance. So we're in this period where, what the fuck is the Fed gonna do exactly? Like, if they try to raise rates too much, then they make it impossible for the US government to pay back their debt. And so now you get into a problem where interest rates could run so extreme that the US government is literally unable to meet their obligations. And if they're unable to meet their obligations, then you don't want to be holding US debt.

• 1:28:13Speaker 00

  And so people are seeing the risk rise, and so when you're looking for a risk-adjusted rate of return, people are just saying, "Sorry, bro, like, you're either inept and can't do anything, or you're inept and are just doing the wrong things. And so you're gonna have to pay me for the privilege of buying this debt into the future." That is not a good position for a country running $2 trillion deficits. Now, the question becomes, how hard do we want to zoom out and see like all the potential stuff? I've got Steve Keen on my brain right now, as I'm interviewing him later today, should be very interesting, I'm super excited for that interview. But, the Steve Keen of it all, where it's like, "No, just what do you mean?

• 1:28:57Speaker 00

  Keep running them debts up, man, nothing matters." But lurking in the background of Steve King is debt forgiveness, can't just do it forever, you've got to stop paying that interest. And so, that, you're gonna wipe out somebody's wealth. So, yeah, I'll be very interested to hear what his solution is for that. But, the market, forget what I say, the market is telling you that we're not in a good place.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  Remember when Trump used to call him "too slow pal"?

• 1:29:23Speaker 00

  Amongst many other names, yes.

• 1:29:25Speaker 01

  And it was like, "He needs to raise, he needs to lower the rates, the rates gotta go down, we should be at 1%, 2%." And I feel like he put Warch in, and Warch was like, "No, we're not touching the rates." So, are we that messed up, you think?

• 1:29:36Speaker 00

  Here's the thing, I'm so conspiracy-brained when it comes to Warch. So, I really think Warch's play, "I am out over my skis, I am not a mind reader, I don't know that he's going to do this, so I'm gonna paint you a fictional story." My fictional story goes something like this, Trump comes up to Warch and is like, "Listen, bitch, you're gonna lower these fucking rates." And Warch is like, "Bro, you don't understand financial repression, you don't know how we got out of, under our debt after World War II, let me walk you through this game. What we're going to do is we're going to let inflation like run rampant, but I first have to establish that I'm not your bitch. Because if everybody thinks that I'm a puppet to the federal government, that's gonna be bad for you, it's gonna be bad for me. So what I'm gonna start doing is just telling people, I'm not gonna tell you anything anymore.

• 1:30:21Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go quiet. And you guys are too reactive to the things that the Fed says. We, we need to be less interventionist, we need to just let things happen, mum's the word, I've got my mandates, maximum employment, which by the way, we've never had worse labor force participation ever."

• 1:30:36Speaker 01

  Unemployment rate is 4%, though. Unemployment rate, that's what I mean, you're cooking the books, boy.

• 1:30:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is so wild, I'm not beating my wife, I'm starving her to death. It's like, come on, kids. So, it's, I think that is what's playing out. He told, again, I don't have any information, I'm writing a fictional story, but I think it went something like that, that he told Trump, "Listen, for a while, I've gotta create separation, but we are going to let this run hot, we're going to..."

• 1:31:08Speaker 00

  Inflate our debt away so that the the pre inflation dollars that we took on the forty trillion, we're going to make that trivial compared to the amount of money that we're going to get from growth. And then Trump goes, but how are we going to get the growth? And he goes from AI. And AI is also going to be deflationary. So AI is going to be driving down costs. So as we let inflation run rampant, it won't matter because we're just going to be burning through this natural deflation anyway. And AI is going to get the economy growing. It's going to look just like it did at the end of World War Two, where we had so much growth from manufacturing that we, even though we were doing financial repression,

• 1:31:51Speaker 00

  which financial repression is just inflation is higher than the return, the interest on holding government debt. But people don't care because their real wages are going up. So everybody's happy. The economy is growing, tons of tax money coming in, everything is great. And I think his pitch went something like that. And so we're looking at Warsch right now as if like, oh, my God, Trump actually hired somebody that is like really going to be tough on inflation. No, no, no. He's got to first just show that there's separation of church and state so that everybody has credibility. And then he's going to keep rates lower than they should be, whether he lowers rates or not, becomes irrelevant.

• 1:32:31Speaker 00

  It's just the rate of where should they be compared to the amount of inflation inflation that we're getting. He is already letting inflation run hot. So holding steady is already weird in the face of five years of inflation being higher than it should be. So it's already like, huh? So he might not be lowering rates, but he's keeping rates lower than they ought to be. If it's actually true that you can control inflation simply by raising rates. Now, I think he can't raise rates for the reason that we have to roll, it's like nine trillion dollars over in 2026, and we're running out of 2026 pretty rapidly. So he's got, he's in a very tough situation. When you take my fictional story and put it on, everything for now looks like it fits.

• 1:33:16Speaker 00

  Whether that holds or not, whether he takes me by surprise and does something totally different, only time will tell. But right now, that fictional story still maps to everything we see.

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  You've been saying that a lot, that like the plan, whether it happens or not, is is still to be seen. We're going to grow our way out of this with AI. What does that mean?

• 1:33:35Speaker 00

  Well, so to grow our way out of this with AI, which I have been very careful to say, there is the near term and there is the artificial superintelligence long term. There is going to be brutality between the two. And so I can paint the picture of short term, long term. The brutality is where I'm like, I don't know what happens there. So to grow our way out of this would be that, let's say that inflation is four percent and growth is five or five and a half percent. Now it's like, cool, everybody's going to be fine. You're inflating their money by four percent, but you're growing their money by five percent. They've got a one point, one percent growth rate.

• 1:34:20Speaker 00

  They're actually getting richer every day. It's not by any extreme amount, but they're actually getting richer. So right now they feel like they're getting poorer because they are getting, technically they got poorer in one big lump. But they're still experiencing the effects of being poorer than they were six years ago. And so, once they start going, I'm getting richer, they click over into like this optimism. And it's like, oh, my life is going to be better a year from now than it is today. That's rad. My kids' lives are going to be better than my life. That's rad. And so now everybody goes back into being jubilant. You're back in the 50s and 60s. That's exactly what happens coming out of World War Two is we're doing financial repression. We are intentionally underpaying people for holding debt.

• 1:35:00Speaker 00

  However, we're putting people in a position where their real wages are going up. And so people feel great.

• 1:35:06Speaker 01

  Got it. And then the five, six percent that comes from?

• 1:35:09Speaker 00

  Would have to come from AI. That that's like everybody's fantasy. The problem is you're you're going to get hit with an ugly stick very, very fast by the AI running the same up and down and then up again, that every technology before it has run. And we haven't gone through the downside yet. So history tells you to bet against that downside would just be ahistoric. Doesn't mean it's impossible, but it would be ahistoric. And so you're likely to obliterate all the people that are in AI on margin or are narrowly focused on, you know, a small subset of companies that may or may not survive all of this. The obvious wins in the 2000 dot com bubble crash, just a lot of them just went out of business.

• 1:35:54Speaker 00

  And so that's like, if we're literally, like, imagine on the other side of this, OpenAI doesn't exist, Anthropic doesn't exist, Gemini doesn't exist. And it's some new crop, the Kimi K3s or whatever of the world that end up being the actual winners on the other side of this. Imagine that AI becomes a thing that everybody does internally, that they just bring on their own AI and that, like a Kimi K3, something they can run in-house, which Kimi K3 can now be run in-house. And so it just becomes compute. And so now data centers become like oil companies and they're giving you a commodity or maybe electricity companies, a better example. So it becomes a commodity and it's like, I'm running Kimi K3, but I'm using my local data center

• 1:36:38Speaker 00

  to get the intelligence for that model to run on that. Cool. And but if you're fucking invested in OpenAI, like you just lost all your money. So and if you did it on debt, don't do it on debt. If you did it on debt, now you're broke. Or you're like actually in debt, millions of dollars, and this is where people start jumping off buildings. We have not gone through that yet. And so as somebody who lived through the dot com bubble, I will tell you, I remember being in a room and somebody pulled me aside and they're like, hey, you see that guy over there? I'm like, yeah. And they're like, he used to be a billionaire. And then because of the dot com crash, now he's, you know, worth like chump change or whatever. And I was like, god damn.

• 1:37:18Speaker 00

  Now, as Ray Dalio goes to great lengths to explain to people, wealth is not the same as money. So that guy never had that money, but he had the wealth. So fine if you're not in on debt. If you're in on debt and now you owe and you have no way to pay it back and the numbers are astronomical, that could be lifelong indebtedness.

• 1:37:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I might not understand this correctly. So help me kind of like see how I can flesh this. I'm trying to figure out, would we need AI companies to grow? Like how, what would be the the numerator in that percentage?

• 1:37:58Speaker 00

  You're trying to get GDP to go up. So GDP is calculated as the velocity of money divided by M2 money supply is GDP. Yes, I'm almost certain that's correct.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:38:10Speaker 00

  So velocity of money, for people that aren't familiar with that, it's how much money is there in the system times the amount that it turns over. So if you have twenty trillion dollars and it turns over twice, then you have forty trillion in GDP.

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  Got you.

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  And turnover just means I earn a dollar and then you earn that same dollar off of me because I buy something from you.

• 1:38:34Speaker 04

  Did you need the formula? Because I found it.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, please.

• 1:38:37Speaker 04

  I don't know if this is what you said, so you might need to confirm because these are all letters. But it says VM equals PQ over M. So I'm assuming that's the nominal GDP. What's that?

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  VM is velocity of money.

• 1:38:48Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:38:49Speaker 00

  And then PQ.

• 1:38:50Speaker 04

  I'm assuming PQ is the GDP because that's what it says over on the side.

• 1:38:54Speaker 00

  That should equal GDP over M2.

• 1:38:56Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:38:57Speaker 00

  And M2 is the money supply. So how much actual money is in the system?

• 1:39:00Speaker 04

  There you go. There's the formula.

• 1:39:03Speaker 01

  Awesome. Thank you. Appreciate you. Okay, couple of quick hits here. First, EA is going private and I'm very excited about that. I am hoping that this investment firm treats it as a standalone entity and they don't get it for parts like private equity, but we shall see.

• 1:39:20Speaker 00

  This is going to be a question of, is there an Elon Musk at the helm of EA? There's plenty of people out there saying that this guy is part of the reason that gaming is in the bad place that it's in. You take a company private because you're tired of the quarterly pressure that you get from investors that are making you make short term decisions, that are making you eke every dollar out of everything that you can, which is great for quarterly profits in the short term. It's absolutely terrible for the long term viability of the brand. What is absolutely fascinating about what's going on inside of the video game industry is it's really indicative of what a lot of people are calling late stage capitalism. So you look at this and you say, all these assholes are just optimizing these companies for shareholder value,

• 1:40:05Speaker 00

  which by the way, they actually have a fiduciary responsibility to do. But I think you're a total retard if you think only about this quarter's money. You've got to be thinking long term shareholder value. When you start thinking long term shareholder value, you are going to rightly leave money on the table this quarter to make sure that you have massive affinity of the buying public so that the people that are a fan of your IP, that they really believe in what you're doing. They believe in the direction of the game. They want to evangelize for it. That is going to be way better for your profits in the long term than trying to nickel and dime people in the short term. Now, if EA is being taken private so that they can specifically break the spell of a hyper financialized economy

• 1:40:50Speaker 00

  and they can get back to actually making a product that people want to own, then that'll be phenomenal. You take off a lot of the stupid pressure that is put on a company by the public markets and you can do something magical. This is exactly what Elon Musk did with X. Brilliant. Love it. Fantastic. Now, the question is, is that actually why they're doing this? That I don't know. I don't know enough about the leader of this company to speak. I'm so curious to know how he is going to factor into this. Is that about EA? Okay, you're keeping up something.

• 1:41:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:41:21Speaker 00

  I was like, damn, if he's about to, I really wanna hear this. So that's where the, the real question is gonna be. Now, you guys know I'm building a video game, so I feel some type of way about the video game industry. A big part of what has kicked this off is that indie developers are absolutely manhandling the AAA gaming industry, and they're doing it through a very simple methodology. Make something that people really want to pay, play, excuse me, that doesn't gouge them from microtransactions and things like that, that it's just a dope game, it stands alone, you can play it by yourself or with friends. It's, it is an awesome product where you can feel the love and the passion of the people

• 1:42:02Speaker 00

  making it, which is very different than the hyper financialized, very transactional dopamine loops that people were trying to, or not trying, that people built for years. And then, once you had hits like Fortnite showing that you can have this model of the always-on game, then every person that wanted to invest in the gaming industry started investing in that type of game, and that just sucked in all the investment capital. And so, everybody was trying to make a game like that, and they were ignoring these beloved franchises to build these live-service games. And so, the user base just started getting really pissed off that the type of game that

• 1:42:46Speaker 00

  made them fall in love just didn't exist anymore. It's not that they don't like live-service games, they just don't want every game to be live-service, and that there is like some, what is perceived as predatory practices, excuse me, of some of these live-service games. And so, that rebellion of the player base is completely transforming what's happening right now with EA. Now, I think everybody's eyes should be on Roblox. I think people are missing the real transformation that's happening, which is that kids now play video games more like they look at reels, everything is hyper-disposable, it's all very cheap, they're not emotionally investing in IP anyway. So, we'll see if what we're actually watching play out is millennials have completely rebelled

• 1:43:27Speaker 00

  against the standard operating procedure for how games are being made and monetized, but that they're, they're just gonna age out of the equation, and that if you don't figure out, as a game developer, if you don't figure out a way, how to get those gamers out of the Roblox ecosystem, basically, Roblox will become video games in the same way that YouTube became video content. So, yeah, I think there's a much different fight on the horizon.

• 1:43:52Speaker 01

  Do you think, asking both from your perspective, running businesses, but also as a consumer of video games, do you think there's a world where EA going private could actually turn its entire reputation around like a Steam? Cause everyone loves Steam, and a lot of that's attributed to it's a private company. Do you think EA has the same thing, or do you think they fall into their old ways?

• 1:44:11Speaker 00

  Oh, man, oh, what am I actually betting on?

• 1:44:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you can like, from either angle, like, if you think business angle, it's like, oh, I think this, but as a consumer, I think this.

• 1:44:18Speaker 00

  EA does not have the DNA to reboot themselves as a friendly-to-the-consumer platform. So, yeah, I, I don't, I think EA will continue to be an ongoing concern for millennials who have grown up with their IP, they love their sports games and all that stuff, and I think they'll do just fine. It is very, very difficult for a large company to have a pirate spirit, and right now millennials want pirate spirit in their games, they wanna be surprised, they want something totally novel, they want somebody taking chances. You wanna look at who's doing that well, look at what Capcom is doing. Capcom, as a big company, has just gotten players to fall in love with them, they feel like they're really building games that they wanna play, they feel completely respected.

• 1:45:02Speaker 00

  And so, that has been a modern story of a legacy company reminding people of what made them great in the beginning. Nintendo, oddly enough, I think would be the one company that you could actually see a resurgence. They have a history of attracting the best and the brightest talent in a very specific type of gameplay, and if they stop being litigious and just started going, listen, we, we have a uniquely Japanese perspective, we're gonna make games that nobody else can touch, and we're going to find these young fucking rebellious kids, which we have a history of doing, and we're going to like carve a space out for them not to get like forced into a box, that could really be extraordinary.

• 1:45:47Speaker 00

  So, that would be a company where I'm like, okay, they could have a 90s Disney-style revival where you finally get a CEO that goes, if you guys don't know that story of what happened to Disney, you have Eisner comes in and he starts saying the phrase, I can't remember if it's him or Katzenberg, but they were a pair, but they were saying repeatedly, as the animation goes, so goes Disney. So, everything inside of Disney is an echo of that idea. We tell these stories, we must tell them well, we must tell, everything has to start there. And from there, we earn the right to have cruises and the parks and all of that stuff, and all of our merchandise, but if we don't get the stories right, nothing else matters.

• 1:46:28Speaker 00

  And so, you're gonna need Nintendo to have that same wake-up call, that'd be really extraordinary to see. I have almost zero faith that EA is capable of that, because they've always been like the grind studio. Blizzard has the ability, but boy, oh, boy, would they have to boot out a lot of ideology, which has really captured them. But Blizzard used to be like, we, games are a religion, they didn't use these actual words, but this is what it felt like. Games are a religion, we are the, the like strictest adherents to this religion, we are gonna respect the players to the nth, we don't launch something unless it's perfect, and like, that was their patina, man. If they dropped a game, you knew it was gonna be like incredible. And this speaks to, this is something that I'll be interested to see if Steve and I,

• 1:47:13Speaker 00

  Steve Keen and I, can collide on this in a fruitful way. But as I'm sort of researching, what is it he likes about Marx, what, what is he taking away from that? These are not Keen's arguments, I don't, I'm not even sure what his real arguments are, but Marx's arguments are so fucking retarded, that I'm just like, what is happening? There, there are philosophies of the economy that are not grounded in somebody that's actually had to build something. And when you're building a company, you realize that this idea of like price signals being some perfect thing, you're trying to take control of the price signal as a company. And so, when you're building games and you're doing it from this place of passion, like, it's this symbiotic relationship with the engineers, with the players, with the marketplace.

• 1:47:55Speaker 00

  And if you don't understand all the aspect, aspects of how to make people believe internally what your mission is as a company, and how you can rely on historical, like, the founding narrative of what Blizzard is about, or the founding narrative of what Nintendo was about, like, you're, you're never gonna be able to recapture that. And so, I don't think EA has that kind of founding story, that they're gonna be able to like reignite passion and attract the best people from all around the world to come work for them. This is why I've had to get so involved in games, and tell, the, the actual fucking making of the game, until I ship a game, I can't convince people that like, I really believe in games, like, I really, this is the whole fucking reason that I got into business in the first place, was to tell stories.

• 1:48:40Speaker 00

  And so, I am like passionate about this, but good luck. When people come to interview with me, they're like, uh, you used to do protein bars, and like, you're on YouTube talking about Islam, like, why am I gonna come work for you, like, what the fuck? So, finally, I was just like, Jesus Christ, I'm gonna have to be in the day-to-day grind of this fucking thing. So, anyway, my goal is to release it, show people, yo, I'm fucking serious on a level that I don't think people understand, and then, we can attract people into this, and I can finally get the, you know, sort of founding mythology out there. Anyway, a lot of words around, EA doesn't have that.

• 1:49:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cool. Live look, Fauci's testimony, somebody put AI version on it.

• 1:49:32Speaker 00

  That's why AI exists, dude. Dude, you can take all the water you need, you can fucking build in the middle of a forest, just like obliterate thousand-year-old trees and put a data center, if I'm gonna get more like that, that was incredible.

• 1:49:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, Fauci answered no questions, uh, it didn't matter, who was, didn't matter, I remember making conversation, right, left, Senator, Republican, Democrat, didn't matter. On advice of counsel, I am here to exercise my fifth amendment, so, what do you think about the Fauci trial that wasn't even a Fauci, like?

• 1:50:03Speaker 00

  I understand why people are up in arms about the fact that nobody's ever held accountable for anything, the reality is that COVID was complicated, there's no doubt about that, but we need a like truth, truth and reconciliation around this. If Fauci really was doing gain-of-function research, really did lie about it, lied to the American people to try to get control and get them to behave in a certain fashion, like, it's just absolutely abhorrent, this is the kind of thing that we cannot stand for. He has a pardon, and that certainly protects him from some things, but man, oh, man, there was, I forget the name of the case, but it's considered longstanding, uh, legal statute

• 1:50:44Speaker 00

  ruling, common law, whatever word you wanna use, case law, that the Supreme Court has already ruled that if you have a pardon, you cannot use the Fifth Amendment to escape having to answer questions, because you're not gonna be able to get penalized criminally for it. So, yeah, I wanna see him be held in contempt, I wanna see either him go to jail, or him be forced to come back and actually answer these questions, because dude, COVID was way too disruptive, way too disruptive, and every country needs to look themselves in the eye and figure out what the hell went wrong, but nobody more so than America. America is founded on the principle of freedom, and all of that was stripped away for some bullshit. And so, yeah, this one's crazy.

• 1:51:27Speaker 00

  This one, this one is absolutely crazy, and he's gonna have to be, we, we need answers, that's the long and the short of that. And if we get those answers by saying, you're not gonna go to jail, but you are gonna answer these fucking questions, and if you lie, you're gonna go to jail for lying, or if you stand in contempt, you're gonna go to jail for contempt, like, this is now just on you, you're just trying to protect your reputation, and that we shall not abide.

• 1:51:51Speaker 01

  Moving on, while you were sleeping, the Commerce Department announced it has, via the Chipset, taken seven, seven new equity stakes in private semiconductor form. American socialism continues to pace.

• 1:52:04Speaker 00

  This is so dumb. Guys, I'm begging you, we have to wake up to the reality of how stupid this is, this is Trump doing something that is absolutely moronic. It will create catastrophic problems down the road, because you're eroding what you need in the marketplace, which is competition. The only way that we're going to get out of the absolute economic quagmire that we are in right now is to grow. The only way that we're going to grow is by creating something that is truly innovative. The only way that you get innovation at scale is with competition and people's ability to do something nobody else has been able to do, to win financially, to make their lives better, and that ability to basically harness one of the greatest forces of nature,

• 1:52:46Speaker 00

  which is human selfishness, that somebody wants to be recognized for contributing to the group and doing something brilliant. They want to be patted on the back. They want to be celebrated. They want to enrich themselves. They want to make their lives better, their kids' lives better. Like, we're able to actually harness that truth of the human condition to our economic benefit. And when you go in and the government takes a stake in a company, now all of a sudden, who's going to get the contracts? The company with the government stake. Who is going to survive in a downturn? The company with the government stake. And so you end up getting these zombie companies that they thrive because the government is propping them up, not because they attract the greatest talent, not because they're making the best products.

• 1:53:27Speaker 00

  And so you end up using the monopoly power of the government to choose winners and losers, and they inevitably will turn a winner into a long-term loser because they will not be able to help themselves, but try to make sure that their companies win. Remember, what you want in America is the ability to get rich and poor. And I know that that makes wealthy people very tense. I spend an inordinate amount of my time thinking about how do I protect my wealth? And that just has to be on me. It can't be something where I can go, "Well, the government's going to take care of me because it's run by a bunch of rich people, and they're going to make sure that rich people stay rich." Fuck that noise. Remember, the Trump accounts, dope. Those are awesome. Create a broad basket of things that meet a criteria,

• 1:54:11Speaker 00

  and companies are constantly falling off that, and new companies are being added on to it, just like the S and P 500. The S and P 500 is completely agnostic to what companies is on the list. They either meet the criteria or they don't. That is a phenomenal way to tie every citizen of the United States to the prosperity of American companies. That is wonderful, amazing. This is fucking stupid, and it will erode the competitiveness of the companies that they take stakes in. Now, I also think that we should be using tariffs and incentives to make sure that certain industries are being built here. But again, it has to be agnostic to what companies win and lose.

• 1:54:53Speaker 00

  It is absolutely deranging and completely maddening that Trump is doing something this fucking stupid. So, yeah, this is just dumb, and people should be pushing back against this as hard as they can. This is fucking stupid.

• 1:55:06Speaker 01

  And just to be completely transparent, the department will receive a minority non-controlling equity stake in each company.

• 1:55:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, so the entity that has the sole use of violence is going to say, and by the way, can steer taxpayer dollars and can just absolutely outbid, crush anybody else. Yeah, okay, they're in a non-controlling position, fine. But it's like, they're obviously, "Oh, you want that contract? Be a real shame if, you know, something happened to that contract, and I bet that'd be real bad for your stake. I just need you to do this. We want to do something in the Middle East, and I know that you're going to have to switch what you're focused on, but I'm going to need you to do that thing." It's fucking stupid. This is so dumb. Or, by the way, somebody gets in power that the administration likes,

• 1:55:53Speaker 00

  and so they keep that person in power even when shareholders are trying to get them the fuck out. All of this is just really stupid.

• 1:56:01Speaker 01

  And unfortunately, we do have a pay-to-play government. So, to your point, what if a CEO's not doing too hot? He gets a little pressure. He visits the White House. He drops a donation check, and now all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, he keeps his job. So, it can get very messy very quickly.

• 1:56:14Speaker 00

  It is so dumb. This is so dumb.

• 1:56:18Speaker 01

  Uh, okay. It is Friday. I feel like that's it. Oh, I wanted to talk about this one. Oh, the demon AI bot. The Peter Thiel bot. Yes.

• 1:56:30Speaker 00

  The Peter Thiel bot.

• 1:56:31Speaker 01

  What is happening? What is happening? How did this get approved?

• 1:56:33Speaker 00

  Bro, how did this get approved?

• 1:56:34Speaker 04

  Who's the marketing team? This is crazy.

• 1:56:36Speaker 00

  Is this AI?

• 1:56:36Speaker 01

  Like, it's the image AI.

• 1:56:38Speaker 04

  This is the real bot. And like, you should see the one with the eyes. I was like, yeah, that one with the eyes. Go back, yeah.

• 1:56:44Speaker 00

  Bro, what is with this shit?

• 1:56:45Speaker 04

  This is back rooms. Like, imagine you're in a fire. That thing comes to your door and it's like,

• 1:56:50Speaker 00

  "I'm here to save you, right? Come with me if you want to live in hell." Like, Jesus Christ.

• 1:56:57Speaker 01

  This is terrible.

• 1:56:58Speaker 00

  There was a, I think, a priest who posted about this. I think I pulled this. I don't know if you can find the tweet. I think it's in the doc. But let me see if you can find it, because his actual wording is pretty funny. I'll paraphrase it if you can't find it.

• 1:57:15Speaker 01

  The Happy Priest, yes.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  Okay, so here we go. This is from a priest at The Happy Priest. He said, "Look, I'm still not the kind of priest to say things like, quote, 'They're putting demons in the robots,' unquote, but the chainsaw-wielding black drones with eyeball horns are making it harder to argue my case." I thought that was hysterical. And if you look at these, if you're looking at your screen and you see this thing legit, yeah, you got to click on that. That's wild. Come on, kids. Like, we all know what that fucking head is. What are they doing?

• 1:57:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:43Speaker 00

  Like, this is comical.

• 1:57:45Speaker 04

  It just looks like ball.

• 1:57:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:48Speaker 01

  And the time is coming. And the time is coming.

• 1:57:51Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:57:51Speaker 01

  Jesus loves you all, guys. Jesus loves you all.

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  Why make it so hard?

• 1:57:54Speaker 01

  Hop in the boat. Jesus loves everybody. Come on, guys. Yeah, there's plenty of space.

• 1:57:57Speaker 00

  Why do we have that on top?

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  Because we need deliverance, because the alien, the demon robots are spotted.

• 1:58:03Speaker 00

  Okay, we've got an ITU AI masterclass coming up August 5th at 1:00 PM Pacific time. It's free, and I'm going to teach you guys how to start a company using AI. It's very powerful. This is such a unique time. I hope you guys will join me. Again, it is free. August 5th at 1:00 PM Pacific. All right, everybody. Have a wonderful weekend. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care, everybody. Peace. Let's talk about a pattern that is guaranteed to be killing your progress. You know what you need to do. You need consistent nutrition. We all do. You need vitamins, probiotics, greens. We all know that we should be doing more of it. When your morning gets chaotic, you skip it. When you travel, you skip it. When your routine breaks, everything tends to break, and that inconsistency compounds against you every single day.

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