{BONUS EPISODE} Tom Becomes President For The Day, Gives You 5 ESSENTIAL Books To Read, & He Takes The Political Compass Test | Tom Bilyeu Show Live

Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In this special bonus episode, Tom Bilyeu and Drew dive deep into the complexities of modern politics, leadership, and personal responsibility. Tom Bilyeu steps into the hot seat, taking the Political Compass Test live to honestly reveal where he stands on issues ranging from economic systems and social values to education and climate change. Alongside Drew, the conversation unpacks the nuances behind each answer, explores the pitfalls of political polarization, and encourages nuanced thinking in a divided era. But that’s not all—Tom Bilyeu shares the five transformative books everyone should read to thrive in today's rapidly changing world, and then puts on his president-for-a-day hat to game out policy decisions on everything from budget cuts to school choice and housing reform. Through candid debate, real-world hypotheticals, and an honest look at the roots of societal problems, this episode challenges listeners to reflect, question assumptions, and understand the cause-and-effect that shapes our society. Get ready to rethink what it means to take ownership—in your life and in the political arena. 00:00 Intro 00:15 Tom Takes The Political Compass Test 14:08 Essential Books You MUST READ 24:36 Tom becomes President For A day What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call: https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Blinkist: Start your free trial at https://blinkist.com/impactQuince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at https://quince.com/impactpodShopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impactKetone IQ: Visit https://ketone.com/IMPACT for 30% OFF your subscription orderQuo: Try for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months at https://quo.com/impactAT&T Business: Switch to AT&T Business at business.att.com http://business.att.comNetsuite: Right now, get our free business guide, Demystifying AI, at https://NetSuite.com/Theory https://netsuite.com/TheoryMonetary Metals: Future-proof your wealth at https://monetarymetals.com/impactIncogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:14Speaker 01

  The political compass test was first developed by a British news outlet all the way back in 2001 with the goal of expanding how we discuss political ideology. The test was designed to implement two separate axes, one for economic ideology and the other for social ideology. The aim of this was to begin dissecting the politics of any individual, utilizing a more in-depth system rather than the simple left-right spectrum we all colloquially understand. Today, we are putting Tom through the test to find out where he really stands. First question, if economic globalization is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of transnational corporations?

• 1:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Why is that the dichotomy? That's a weird split. If economic globalism is inevitable, it's not. It should primarily serve humanity rather than it, well, yes, strongly agree. You definitely want to serve humanity, but let me tell you, bro, that is going to get weird, and how you define that will be strange.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  I always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.

• 2:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa, God, what do they mean by support? So yes, I'm not gonna be a traitor to my country, but the real answer is that if my country is wrong, I'm gonna speak up loudly. So I would say I strongly disagree.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  No one chooses their country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it.

• 2:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Our race has many superior qualities compared with other races.

• 2:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Jesus Christ, strongly disagree.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  I said ours, so you know.

• 2:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, that helps, I guess.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

• 2:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Disagree, but not strongly.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.

• 2:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  There is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment.

• 2:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  That was a banger. That's a good question. People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality.

• 2:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, disagree.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.

• 3:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 3:01Speaker 01

  Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.

• 3:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Agree.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  From each according to his ability to each according to his need is a fundamentally good idea.

• 3:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, strongly disagree.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  The freer the market, the freer the people.

• 3:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  It's a sad reflection on how society, on our society, that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled branded consumer product.

• 3:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.

• 3:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  It is regrettable that many personal forgeries are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.

• 3:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Disagree.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade.

• 3:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.

• 3:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Disagree.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  The rich are too highly taxed.

• 3:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Disagree.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Those with the ability to pay should have access to higher standards of medical care.

• 3:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Governments should penalize businesses that mislead the public.

• 3:54Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  A genuine free market requires restriction on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.

• 4:01Tom Bilyeu?

  A genuine free market requires restrictions? So you need to stop them from doing that, and I strongly agree.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal.

• 4:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  All authorities should be questioned.

• 4:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

• 4:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 4:18Speaker 01

  Taxpayers should not be expected to Prop up any theaters or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis.

• 4:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Ooh, disagree.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.

• 4:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Schools. I mean, you should.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  You have some pause there. What's the hesitation?

• 4:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's one of those where I like that students have to be educated, but parents should be able to decide in what form that takes. So the schools shouldn't be in charge of it. But the ethos of making sure that our young are educated, I do like as a rule. I think that that's very important, but schools shouldn't be the ones to, oh, God. This is gonna be, schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory. I'll go with agree, but not strongly.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.

• 5:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Jesus, strongly disagree.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.

• 5:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents.

• 5:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Ooh, agree.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offense.

• 5:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.

• 5:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, to find jobs. I'm gonna go with disagree, but it's not that it doesn't matter. It just shouldn't be the primary focus.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  If you can change something, what should be the primary focus?

• 5:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Problem solving and dealing with the real world. So how to deal with your emotions, understanding your biology, knowing how to invest. Like, there are things that will prepare you for the world that have nothing to do with finding a job. But people should definitely think about being an add to society. But you may wanna create a company or something like that. I have a feeling what they mean by this is that the prime function of schools should be to be a cog in the machine that I disagree with. I'll say disagree, but hedge my bets a little bit. Because there's enough gray area in there, I'm not gonna push all the way to strongly disagree.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.

• 6:15Tom Bilyeu?

  God damn, strongly disagree. What the, who wrote this?

• 6:18Speaker 01

  The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline.

• 6:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  There are no savage and civilized peoples. There are only different cultures.

• 6:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Those who are able to work and refuse the opportunity should not. Expect society support.

• 6:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.

• 6:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Honestly, yeah, strongly agree.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm with you on that one. First generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country.

• 6:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  What's good for the most successful corporations is always ultimately good for all of us.

• 6:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Right. Uh, strongly disagree.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.

• 6:54Tom Bilyeu?

  These days, I strongly agree. There was a time where I wouldn't have, but the internet is just so plentiful. Strongly agree.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counterterrorism.

• 7:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, strongly agree.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratically, in the democratic political system.

• 7:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly aggressively disagree.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried.

• 7:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Get out of here. Strongly disagree.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes.

• 7:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  In a civilized society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.

• 7:32Tom Bilyeu?

  One must always have? No, strongly disagree.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.

• 7:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  In criminal justice, punishment should be more important than rehabilitation.

• 7:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Ooh, interesting. More important than rehabilitation? If I knew that they could be rehabilitated, I would be much more into the rehabilitation.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Make it a policy. What's the?

• 7:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Make it a policy, Drew. Very well said. Very well said. I don't think we know how to rehabilitate, so I'm gonna go with punishment should be more important. I'll go with agree, but not strongly.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Okay. It is a time, is a waste of time to try to rehabilitate some criminals.

• 8:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Agree.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  The business person and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  I feel like you just, these are both your identities.

• 8:18Tom Bilyeu?

  They, they are both very meaningful, but yeah, I'll, I'll agree that if you could have a bunch of artists, but nobody doing business, you have a problem. If you have a bunch of business people with no writers and artists, it's sad. It's a bad day, but you can still have a functioning economy.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.

• 8:35Tom Bilyeu?

  God, no. Strongly disagree. But I highly advise, dear mothers, I highly advise. advise you to prioritize your children as much as you can. That would be very good for them. But same for dads, by the way.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Dear parents.

• 8:45Tom Bilyeu?

  So this is why, yeah, dear parents. Well said, Drew. This is exactly why I didn't have kids, because I knew that I would prioritize my career way too much. So yeah, that's not a uniquely mom thing. But if you're gonna have kids, while I feel you're doing all of us a great service. And so I feel terrible asking a little bit more of you. And if you're gonna do it, do it well. That would be my advice.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Almost all politicians promise economic growth, but we should heed the warnings of climate science that growth is detrimental to our efforts to curb global warming.

• 9:11Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, yes, but I'm gonna go with this. Wait, I'll say agree, but certainly not strongly agree. I feel I need a neutral one on this one.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is interesting. I thought you were gonna say disagree.

• 9:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, here's the thing. You do need to listen. Climate change is real, but you don't need to act like a European psychopath, where it's like, no matter what, you just more green, more green, even if it's economically disadvantageous. That's stupid. However, pretending like Beijing could just be Beijing like they were, you know, 15, 20 years ago, where it was like breathing one big cigarette your entire life, that's also an atrocity. So yeah, I'll leave it there. This one needs a neutral button.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is, I say, this is the first one that surprised me, like your answer. But having that lack of neutral button, I guess where it breaks. Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.

• 10:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, the iron law of oligarchy. So I'll agree, but not strongly.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Astrology accurately explains many things.

• 10:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  You cannot be moral without being religious.

• 10:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.

• 10:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I'll go with agree, but not strongly. There's nuance. But the reason that I say agree is that charity tends to be more at the local level. They're more likely to know the person and whether they actually need it or not. A big part of the problem with social systems is that it becomes anonymous. The bureaucracy then wants its own survival. And so you fund and fund and fund homelessness only to get more homelessness, because that organization needs the more homeless people to grow. And so it ends up not solving the problem. But again, going back to what I was saying earlier, having no social safety net is brutal. There are times where people are going to have a legitimate Need and we as people trying to build an awesome society would do well to catch them. But you do need means testing.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Some people are very are naturally unlucky.

• 10:58Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, sure, in a random universe, but I'm gonna say strongly disagree because I don't think while luck is a real thing. It's not like, ah, ha, ha, ha, that person is chronically unlucky. It's not like that.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  It is important that my child's school instills religious values.

• 11:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Sex outside of marriage is hugely immoral.

• 11:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly disagree.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  A same-sex couple in a stable, loving relationship should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.

• 11:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  Pornography depicting consenting adults should be legal for the adult population.

• 11:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  What goes in, what goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.

• 11:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Strongly agree.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  No one can feel naturally homosexual.

• 11:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Huh? The reports do not indicate that that is true. Strongly disagree.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  These days openness about sex has gone too far.

• 11:46Tom Bilyeu?

  I agree.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 11:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  That's a, that's another.

• 11:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, I don't think it should be curbed, like, I don't think the government should get involved. But if you want to know if I think that Bonnie Blue is on the right track, I do not.

• 11:59Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I think that is gonna be a bad day for her.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Now, let's see where you stand.

• 12:03Tom Bilyeu?

  So I'm super far from authoritarian. That is absolutely true. Uh, and I am ever so slightly to the right. This is pretty accurate for me.

• 12:11Speaker 01

  Center-right?

• 12:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, but also just to be very clear, I would like the record to reflect how far away from authoritarian I am.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  On the economic, we have usual suspects, AOC's over here, Jeremy Corbyn, Bernie Sanders, Zohar M'Adani.

• 12:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa. Those guys are the most authoritarian and how dare you?

• 12:31Speaker 01

  This is on the world map, so you know, world authoritarian is different than.

• 12:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Bro.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  US.

• 12:36Tom Bilyeu?

  And anybody who's a democratic socialist is ultra authoritarian.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  But when you look up here, there's actual dictators, Kim Jong-un, super-left, super authoritarian.

• 12:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  Uh, Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin. I, I thought that would be more.

• 12:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Those guys don't like max that shit out.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Uh, then of course, on the authoritarian right, we have Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Benjamin Netanyahu, uh, Viktor Orban, who just. I voted out Marine La Pen.

• 13:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is interesting.

• 13:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Pretty accurate.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, to me, that feels very on point. There were some of the questions that I was pushed in one direction or the other that didn't feel quite right. But overall, the rating of where they put me, I think, feels pretty real. I am, from a temperament perspective, ever so slightly right in terms of like classic, old school, evolution-type personal responsibility versus communal, if you will.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Was there any questions that keeping you up at night, that ones that stuck out to you that you're still like?

• 13:31Tom Bilyeu?

  The honest answer is there were a lot of them where you could really get nitpicky about what they mean by a given word. Ones that like stood out and I really felt uncomfortable with my answer. There's nothing that like sticks in my craw, if you will. Finding out exactly where you stand on something like that, I think, is incredibly useful. Know thyself is the first rule. And I think so often people mistake the way that they think for being objectively right. And I have learned very aggressively in my marriage that it isn't that I'm right. It's just that there are things that I want to do my way and that I reduced dramatically the friction in my life. Once I realized, oh, I have a way that I like to do things. It is not objectively right.

• 14:11Tom Bilyeu?

  And if you can learn to work with other people who are also trying to do things, their way isn't objectively right, but it is their way. And if you can come together with that and find out what that compromise is, where you guys can actually share values, then we could get some momentum and moving forward. Right now, everybody is so hell bent to be on a team that if somebody doesn't end up in your quadrant, you want to throw feces. And so be very careful about focusing on the things that make you different and really, really try to find a way to come together in the middle. That is when the world has always been at its best, is when we're choosing between two sides that are relatively close to each other in the middle. You're very much not there right now. We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere.

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• 18:23Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, let's dive right back in. Here are the five books you must read if you want to last in the new world. One, Extreme Ownership by Jaco Willink and Leif Babin. Two, The Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. That is a must. Mao, The Unknown Story by Zheng Chang. The Red Famine by Anne Applebaum. And The Machiavellians: Defenders of Freedom by James Burnham.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  Who is the book, who are these books for? What is Tom pre these books and Tom post these books? And what are some of the changes you found with each individual one? Or you could group them together.

• 18:59Tom Bilyeu?

  The reason that I picked these five books is we are in this incredibly tumultuous time and I want people to be able to navigate it well. And by that, I mean, on the other side of this, we have to pick the right politicians and we have to invest our money wisely. If you do those two things, you're going to have a much better shot at coming out the other side, no matter what happens, well. But to do that, you have to look at the way the world is and not be lost in your frame of reference. Like, if you want to understand who I was before I read these books and then understand who I am now. I am after it was I had one frame of reference that the world is a good, just place where it's pretty rare that things go wrong, that prosperity is a natural force of nature, that things tend

• 19:40Tom Bilyeu?

  towards the good and it doesn't require any effort from us, that inflation, for instance, is a natural law, that it's not man-made. And then on the other side of all that, I realized, oh, the way that societies are structured, there always is this small group of elites at the top that are making decisions for all of us. They want to control what we see and believe. So they are intentionally leveraging the fact that we all get trapped inside of a frame of reference. It's necessary, but the smaller they can keep that frame of reference, the more they can control you. And that if you can get outside of your frame of reference and start tracking cause and effect, now you can avoid being manipulated and you can pick an endpoint on the horizon that you want to get to, whether economically, emotionally, in your career,

• 20:24Tom Bilyeu?

  whatever, you can actually get there because you can step outside of what you've been taught to believe and actually see how things connect.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  Okay, you went from extreme ownership to literally a first-person narrative of the Holocaust. All those books have in common.

• 20:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so right now, we're living in certainly the most tumultuous time in anybody who's alive life. We've never had this kind of disruption. The last time that anything was this dramatic was World War II. The first step is going to be for people to take ownership of their circumstances. There is a hard reality to be faced about the fact that your life is a reflection of your choices. We live in a deterministic universe, so everything is cause and effect. But we have raised two generations of people to believe that the world is just always replete with success. It's an abundant world and the reality is it's not. And to have a moment like this is exceptionally rare and very difficult. And if people don't start going, oh, I can make

• 21:23Tom Bilyeu?

  different choices and get a different outcome, they're not going to walk down the right path. The reason that I include the three books, The Gulag Archipelago, The Red Famine, and Mao, The Unknown Story, is we are about to re-ask the question, what Economic system serves people the best because we've come out of the the longest stretch of unprecedented economic growth for the middle class. We are now forgetting that we made a really hard choice between communism and capitalism. And we've been eroding capitalism here in the West is something you and I argue about a lot. But I think we're about to have to re answer that question. And I think the consequences are dire and it is something I just really can't get people to hear me. And you're such a good barometer for me. You're smart. You're super well meaning.

• 22:08Tom Bilyeu?

  You just want the right answer. You have a child. You love her the most. And it's like, I know you just want what's good for her. But if you haven't read those three books to understand how wrong things go with humans. And the one notion that I think people really miss is to get equal outcomes. You have to do it by force. And those three books show three real examples in the 20th century, man. This is not like a long time ago. Mao was alive when I was alive. For people to understand those three examples of how evil you have to be to get people to relinquish what they have fought to earn. Even if it starts in a good place, it ends up with murder.

• 22:52Tom Bilyeu?

  And those three books, because I think people believe I'm being hyperbolic. Keep in mind, I didn't start with this worldview. I maybe more than most, I used to get made fun of by my business partners for being Pollyanna. And reading those books and many, many more about the atrocities of the 20th century, about economics, quite frankly, I really came to understand how bloody and sinister communism is. We've been able to communicate how evil Nazism is, but we were not able to get that same message across about communism. And so those three books really paint a terrifying picture from the inside of what it was like to live through those systems.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Okay, so we have the first one, extreme ownership. It's important for the individual to know that you can change the decisions that and you can change your life based on those decisions.

• 23:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, life is not random. It's a deterministic universe. You're in control of your actions. You can change your.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Then the next three Mao Gulag and Red Famine. This is what happens when the human race breaks bad. That's a very shorthanded way.

• 23:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Economic, the economic system you choose will have massive consequences. And if we go down the socialist communist route, it is the bloodiest path imaginable.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  And these are three examples of that.

• 24:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, to get people on the inside of that so they understand the massive consequences. And if nothing else, to to understand the brutality required to get people to willingly give up what they have fought to earn.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Okay, and then to round us out now with Machiavellian defenders of freedom.

• 24:24Tom Bilyeu?

  So we're we're in the middle of an era where the way the world works is becoming apparent to us. And it's going to have a deranging effect. The Machiavelli was a real person in Italy. He writes this book called The Prince. The Prince was meant to teach basically world affairs to the rulers of Italy. And it's this no holds barred. It was like literally the forty eight laws of power by Robert Greene are based largely on The Prince. And so he was just trying to lay out the first book on politics, like how it actually works. Not how we wish it worked or the veneer of civility.

• 25:04Tom Bilyeu?

  But underneath the the power games, the manipulation, the fact that we're always going to be run by an elite group of people. Which in the book he refers to as the iron law of oligarchy. And so in a world where social media is going to make everything hyper visible, the way that it works, the way that politicians lie, all the sex scandals, all of the secret cabals that really do gather behind the scenes and create things like a central bank. And that central bank sounds lovely, but it's absolutely sinister and just manipulative of the people. Things like Epstein, like it's just all gonna come out. And we're gonna look at that and it's really going to be deranging.

• 25:43Tom Bilyeu?

  And if we don't have somebody that can help us make sense of the way that humans interact as a political animal. We won't have a way to anchor and understand the moment. And so conspiracy theories will. Rain, people are gonna run in a thousand different directions. Narratives are gonna split into these tiny little fragments. And we're not gonna have any shared understanding of what the world is. And so Machiavellian defenders of freedom. It was really James Burnham saying, okay, let's take a really hard look at this thing. Because people are trying to dismiss Machiavelli by saying he was evil. Or by saying that he was promoting the way that man is as a political animal, which is really grotesque.

• 26:27Tom Bilyeu?

  He wasn't trying to say this is good and as it should be. He's simply saying it is. This is how the human mind works. And when you take all these books together, it is the most raw look at what the human animal actually is. And I think if we don't have that understanding, we will be deranged by algorithms. Because the algorithm feeds into our emotions. We won't share a narrative about what is true and how people really are with each other. We won't be able to point at where we want to end up. We'll just get lost in the sauce of like the lies, the manipulation and all of that. And so when you take all these books together, you've got a really hard look at how much you can own your own decisions.

• 27:11Tom Bilyeu?

  And how powerful it is to see yourself as a structure of power. You've got a really brutal look at the fact this is a line from the Gulag Archipelago, which most people will know the line, but they won't know where it came from. Which is the line between good and evil runs through every human heart. And that was a guy who was locked into the Russian Gulag system. Who knew that there were stories like there was one guy that just could not break him. And so they brought in his sixteen year old daughter and raped her in front of him to finally break him. And so he's living through that system. And he comes out and says, you would do well to remember that you would probably be one of the guards. Not one of the people that, you know, tries to maintain your integrity. The prisoners in the system massively outnumbered the guards.

• 27:56Tom Bilyeu?

  But they never tried to overwhelm them because they used other prisoners by giving them perks. They got them to hold down everybody else. And so he realized it is far better for me to look at myself as. Weak and likely to break and not as some hero. And that this line really any one of us can break to the truly evil. And those three books show it across time and space and different places where people who think that they are so right and so just, and if you just give them power, they'll make everything good. And universally, they kill untold millions of people. And so that's really tough.

• 28:35Tom Bilyeu?

  And then the the final one gives us that meta understanding of the good and the bad of humans. And that if we want to be defenders of freedom, we have to look really hard at man in the gear of political animal can be incredibly manipulative and disgusting. And if we're not aware of that, we'll be manipulated. We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere.

• 29:06Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, let's dive right back in. I'm Tom Bilyeu and I'm president for a day. And let me tell you right now, I'm running on one thing. We are going to balance the budget and we're going to get this economy humming. Full stop, period, end of story.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  All right, the floor is yours. A rare, quiet month, no crises, competing for attention. What is your policy statement, executive action?

• 29:25Tom Bilyeu?

  So we are focused on balancing the budget via cutting. Like, we're going to balance the budget right now, today. So we are going to make hard choices about what has to go and what's going to stay. Then after that, the focus is on growing the economy. Those are going to be pillars one and two.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  All right, let's submit this policy and see what happens. There's a threat assessment. Oh, I like this. The president has made the following policy announcement. We are focused on balancing the budget via cutting. We are going to make hard choices, but what needs to go, what is going to stay? After that, I will shift my focus to growing the economy. Treasury costs is low. Estimated expenditures potential savings of $500 to $1 trillion annually in spending. That's better than Doge was able to get to. Key risk is political backlash from affected constituencies and interest groups, potentially stalling cuts in the divided Congress. Some of the headlines, Bill U taxes acts to waste. Bill U outlines plan to balance budget via spending cuts. Bill U's austerity push threatens vital social

• 30:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, yes, aggressively. That is 100% true.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  So, so far, so good. Everybody's green, everybody still likes you, you didn't break anything. Some of the focus group responses, Texas Tom says, from where I sit, finally a president talking sense about cutting the fat out of the bloated Washington budget. Iowa Martha, my view is on this, finally a president taking sense, talking sense about balancing the budget. Everybody loves it, even Miami Maria. Let me see if we get any dissent.

• 30:41Tom Bilyeu?

  I have a feeling we're gonna, we're gonna have some people.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  Uh, College Chloe.

• 30:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, College Chloe is going to hate me.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  My reaction is, ugh, this is such a cop out, cutting budgets when we need massive investment in climate action, student debt relief and healthcare.

• 30:53Tom Bilyeu?

  There we go.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  All right. Gospel Gloria, gospel is crazy. Here's how I see it, this Republican talk of balancing the budget by cutting programs, sounds like they're coming for the safety nets that keep our folks from falling through the cracks. Brooklyn Jamal says, here's what I think, another Republican president out here talking about balancing the budget by slashing the programs that actually help people like me. All right, so all the dissent is still there. All right, so Wall Street, you gained in Wall Street, you gained in a Chamber of Commerce, you gained in small business. All right, so far, nothing too crazy. First policy went over well, cool, let's play February 2025 now. All right, now let's make a policy, what's our first policy?

• 31:27Tom Bilyeu?

  So, we are going to extend the retirement age, but it will extend over the next 15 years. And then, what else would we actually have to do if we wanted to balance the budget? We don't give states federal dollars if they don't have a balanced budget.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, and no state funding for states with unbalanced budgets.

• 31:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Increase the retirement age to 69 over the next 15 years, and no state funding for states that do not have a balanced budget.

• 31:57Tom Bilyeu?

  We're going to dramatically reduce regulation on housing to increase housing supply. I don't know what the federal government can do at the local level to outlaw rent control, but whatever the federal government can do to influence rent control, we want to do.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  For the sake of this, let's say you want to extend the retirement age to 69 over the next 15 years, no state funding for states that do not have a balanced budget, dramatically reduce regulation to promote builders to build more houses. And using the extent of our federal powers to remove all rent control nationally.

• 32:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep, and one more, I would create economic incentives for people to create jobs in America, especially in manufacturing.

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Treasury costs is medium, estimated expenditure approximately 20 to 40 billion dollars annually in manufacturing incentives, offset by long-term entitlement savings, growth potential positive. So A, your demand of growth is growing. Bill Hughes radical overhaul, punishes workers, crushes renters.

• 32:55Tom Bilyeu?

  What?

• 32:55Speaker 01

  The American Herald, Tom Bill Hughes proposes sweeping reforms on retirement, housing, and manufacturing. Bill Hughes bold boom plan, ditch rent rip-offs, build houses, supercharge factories.

• 33:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, that's much better. Who was the one on the left? The first one, I want to know.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  The national state.

• 33:10Tom Bilyeu?

  These guys are liars.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  They're the fake news?

• 33:12Tom Bilyeu?

  They are the fake news, man. Low IQ.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Congressional, you've been blocked by Congress.

• 33:17Tom Bilyeu?

  On all of them.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  As introduced, and then the stripped down version got passed through the House, but then it got filibustered in the Senate.

• 33:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Jesus Christ.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  You got blocked.

• 33:25Tom Bilyeu?

  This is why I'm not a politician.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  And then so.

• 33:27Tom Bilyeu?

  So basically, nothing has happened so far.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  You're doing great as a politician.

• 33:31Tom Bilyeu?

  All blocks.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  You're doing great as a politician.

• 33:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Where are my executive orders? I heard that works.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Miami Maria said, my thought on this, finally a president who gets it, cutting regulations and killing rent control is exactly what we need. We know we love Brooklyn, Jamal. Here's Ryland, this is straight up trash, man. Forcing folks to grind to 69 while corporations get free pass to jack up rents by killing rent control.

• 33:51Tom Bilyeu?

  What? You guys do understand that when you eliminate rent control, rent gets cheaper, right? More people build.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Now you understand why Trump tweets at 3 a.m. in the morning. You start to understand, you start to embody. Wall Street doesn't like you, you dropped two points on Wall Street. So you lost.

• 34:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, well, wait till they hear me trying to abolish the Federal Reserve. They're really gonna hate that.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Right now, the national debt ticked up 0.15.

• 34:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Wait, what?

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Didn't even get nothing to got done.

• 34:18Tom Bilyeu?

  That's because they, they're like, oh, yeah, you want to reduce taxes, no problem, that goes through, but all your other things, that gets blocked.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  All right, here's an immediate crisis that popped up. There's a mass shooting at Michigan factory. Kills 12, injured 20. A gunman opened fire at a Detroit Auto Parts factory today, killing 12 workers and wounding 20 others. The shooter, 34-year-old. Layoff employee use a legally purchased AR-15 style rifle. The incident marks the deadliest mass shooting of 2025 so far. Local union leaders demanding immediate federal action on workplace safety and reforms. What is your response?

• 34:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, first of all, obviously, I'm completely devastated that somebody was able to take this many lives. I mean, it's absolutely tragic. There's going to be plenty of people talking about the gun control aspect, which I'm gonna not touch at all. But the thing that I would focus people on is this is almost certainly, I mean, look, this guy could be mentally ill. There's no doubt about that. So if I had more information, that might change my assessment. But if this person isn't mentally ill, my immediate assumption is that this is a economic problem, that you have somebody that is just overwhelmed, stressed to the gills because they are being hollowed out by inflation and money printing. So I would try to get everybody to focus on, listen, if you make it impossible for people to make ends meet

• 35:32Tom Bilyeu?

  and they have nothing left to lose, then they're going to start doing crazy stuff like this. And if you think that just by taking guns away, you're going to stop the violence, you're not. As Europe is learning the hard way, you'll just hack somebody to death with machetes. So rather than try to lower the body count, what I would be focused on is making sure that people don't have the impulse to walk in and shoot something up. It's going to be a very complex issue, everything from mental illness, SSRIs on through the economic side of this. I would need more information to actually tell you what you need to do to solve this problem. If I were legitimately president, the thing that people would absolutely get bored to death of is this is a deterministic universe, there is cause and effect. We need to identify in this particular instance, what actually happened.

• 36:15Tom Bilyeu?

  And so if this is mental illness, then you have that conversation. If this is a drug thing, whether like hard drugs or SSRIs, you have that conversation. If this is economic, because this is somebody who was struggling and he went to this workplace because he's been completely iced out and is basically, this is a death of despair by cop, then you have to look at that. And so the one thing that my constituents can count on is no matter what the punchline is, I care only about cause and effect. The odds of me being anything other than a one-term president are effectively zero. And so in the one term that I have, I'm just going to try to say, this is where we're going. This is the cause and effect to get there, and so we're going to do those things. And whatever that means, whoever that pisses off, it pisses off. It just, it's the only way that I could do it.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Bill Hughes heartless dismissal of mass shooting tragedy. Guns off limits, workers pain ignored.

• 37:04Tom Bilyeu?

  That, that, that gets a 3 a.m. tweet. I'm not gonna lie. That gets a 3 a.m. tweet. You did not listen to a word I just said.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  I feel bad, because this is literally how it is. So I was like, I empathize now. This is crazy. Bill, you respond to Detroit factory shooting rules out gun measures. Bill, you nails it. No gun grabs. Fix mental health and despair instead. Ooh, okay, now we have some-

• 37:25Tom Bilyeu?

  We're starting, we're starting to see the first signs-

• 37:27Speaker 01

  So in the Northeast, yeah, you lost some support. In DC, you actually lost a lot of support. That's surprising. Least favorable was Washington DC, Maryland, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut. Most favorable, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana. Focus group, let's go to the same people we've been talking to. President Bill U isn't jumping on this tragedy. Push more gun control like the Democrats always do. This dude just saw 12 people get slaughtered with an AR-15, and his big plan is not, not touching guns.

• 37:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I mean, here's the great news. This stuff is very predictable. So, that's, that's the great news of human nature.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Teachers' Union signals willingness to back budget cuts for school choice reforms. The AFT, the Teacher, American Federal, Federation of Teachers, issued a statement today expressing openness to cooperation if the administration advance nationwide school choice incentives as part of its economic reform pack.

• 38:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Man, if they, first of all, they would never come with this, but I love school choice. Let's go. Now, I'm very sensitive to the fact that America has spent more money on education than virtually anybody else, and we're middle of the pack in terms of results. So I've got a ton of beef with the teachers' union, but anybody that comes with a good idea, I'm gonna be super open. What I like about school choice is it lets people basically put the bad schools out of business. So yeah, I'm totally here for that.

• 38:39Speaker 01

  I'm gonna have your policy kill the teachers' union and increase school choice nationally.

• 38:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I would say, um, how are you gonna say that in a way? Because if you're gonna say get rid of the teachers' union, it would have to be something like, make the teachers' union charter contingent on educational output, like accomplishments, benchmarks, something like that. You can't just keep funding the Department of Education and have it not get results.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  Bill U's school choice gambit threatens public education funding.

• 39:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, that is true.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Bill U proposes performance-based education funding, nationwide school choice. Bill U Schools Teachers Union empowers parents with choice revolution.

• 39:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Hey, look, so even if they were trying to be mean with the national standard, that is accurate.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Hey, you got a stripped version passed through congressional. The Department of Education.

• 39:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Although I will say, it's not that, so the schools are gonna be publicly funded, more aggressively under President Bilyeu than anybody else. But I'm not gonna fund.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  More than they ever seen it, the most aggressive.

• 39:36Tom Bilyeu?

  The most funding. But it won't, you won't keep getting funded if you're not delivering results. That is true.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  So the Department of Education funding would now be partially tied to a basic, to basic educational performance metrics in public schools. There you go. I think that's a win.

• 39:52Tom Bilyeu?

  That's a modification. All right.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a modification.

• 39:55Tom Bilyeu?

  It's a step in the right direction.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  All right. Everything is still net green. The haters is still hatin', so that's good.

• 40:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Wait, wait, Brooklyn Jamal hated that one?

• 40:02Speaker 01

  I tell you what, this school choice nonsense is just a sneaky way to gut public schools and leave black and poor kids behind in underfunded.

• 40:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Brooklyn Jamal as an archetype doesn't like school choice? What?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Brooklyn Jamal not having it. He not here for you. He not here for your BS, President Bilyeu. He not, he's not falling for it.

• 40:18Tom Bilyeu?

  I thought Brooklyn would be all for this.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Chinese hackers, they leaked the Bilyeu admin diplomatic cables on EU trade talks. The FBI, under Director Eric Medina, revealed that Chinese state-sponsored hackers accessed and leaked classified State Department cables from Security Valentina's Cruz, Valentina Cruz's office, exposing US negotiation strategies aimed at strengthening EU relations amid ongoing tensions with Beijing over manufacturing incentives.

• 40:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, I mean, the only thing that you really can do, so, one, you have a diplomatic meeting, but there's not gonna be a lot that you can do unless you can prove that they did it. You need to be beefing up your ability to protect against that, for sure. And then we're already in a Cold War with China, so I'm not sure what exactly we can do there. But if we knew that it was a state hack, then there would be economic sanctions. We would have to do something, cuz you absolutely cannot let that go.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  For the game, let's, let's say that we have it proven, we got it, and it was proven that it was state-sponsored. Like Iran's state-sponsored, which they funded a group that the bills went back to Xi Jinping, but he wasn't in the, he wasn't pressing the button.

• 41:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, so we would have to find some equivalent of tariffs. I don't know if I would use tariffs, but it would be an economic penalty of some kind. So for now, for simplicity, you can just say that. We sanction them.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  National standard, Bill U sanctions on China risk escalating trade war after hack leak. The American Herald, Bill U orders cybersecurity upgrades, sanctions on China filing diplomatic cable hack. Bill U hits hard, cyber boost and China sanctions after commie hack job.

• 41:47Tom Bilyeu?

  It is funny seeing the left, center, right responses to all this.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  Key risks is Chinese retaliation through escalated cyber attacks or trade disruptions, potentially worsening bilateral relations and current tensions amid current tensions.

• 41:58Tom Bilyeu?

  America loves me. America loves me, baby. Let's go.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 42:02Tom Bilyeu?

  They're here for us. Strong on China.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  That was your highest favorability. Okay. This has been your best policy so far. I like it. All right. We're not going to go through each month. Let's just do like some quick hits of your favorite policies. We'll add them and kind of see what the sentiment is. You agree with that?

• 42:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Is there any sweeping things that you could think of other than?

• 42:19Tom Bilyeu?

  That we haven't already talked about?

• 42:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Finding a way to phase out the Federal Reserve over the next 10 years.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  Safe, safe.

• 42:26Tom Bilyeu?

  You lose everybody with that one. Cause you'd have to phase it out. Try phase out the Fed with 10 years and see if it changes. No, they still hate it.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. More red.

• 42:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Interesting. It's so necessary. Okay, so let's see. What would be a specific policy that might not be as widely triggering? Put forward a bill that would make any member of Congress ineligible, ineligible for reelection if the budget is more than 3% over GDP in the red. Let's go.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Nice. 83%. Oh, that's, that's green across the board. Everybody loves that. And College Chloe said, all right, this is kind of the whole radical accountability we need. There you go. You got a purple hair.

• 43:08Tom Bilyeu?

  That's what I'm talking about. Now, College Chloe, if we're on the same page with that,

• 43:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:12Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I respect it.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Brooklyn Jamal's at 85%. You even sold him. Man.

• 43:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Come on now.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  You're the president of the world needs.

• 43:19Tom Bilyeu?

  If people really understand like what's going on. I think what that tells us is people like politicians being held accountable. There is an element of like, anything I do that somebody reads is like, oh, somebody's not being held accountable. They're going to hate. Anything I do where they're like, yeah, yeah, like that person's being held accountable. And I think that's a big part of why the taxing is so enticing to people is they feel like, yes, they're Being penalized for their greedy ways. And so get that tax money. So it's interesting accountability, I think, might be a big trigger for getting everybody on the same page. So it becomes a good question of what are other things that we could do where all of us politicians are being held accountable? Like no insider trading? Let's see what that looks like.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Another, yeah, another eighty-four green, yeah.

• 44:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Another one.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. So everybody likes to hold Congress accountable. I like it.

• 44:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Listen, these are good things. What are other things? Oh, term limits, term limits. Eight years for Congress, 12 for Senate. Do we want to do 12 for Senate? Yeah, why not? We'll be, be nice and chill. Let's go, let's go. Okay, man, I'm getting the country behind me here.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  There it is, there it is. Okay.

• 44:26Tom Bilyeu?

  What else?

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Eddie five, all around, all green.

• 44:28Tom Bilyeu?

  What else would be good that everyone would love?

• 44:30Speaker 01

  How do we fix affordable, like housing? Let's attack housing.

• 44:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so you've got, you've got to reduce regulation. So they're not going to feel like anybody's being held accountable. That's the problem. So deregulate the housing market to stimulate growth. If you say it like that, then people are gonna, it's gonna split.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:45Tom Bilyeu?

  It's still, we'll take it, we'll take it.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  It's still green. Still green. We're starting to see some, some cracks.

• 44:49Tom Bilyeu?

  That one's very important. Um, what can we do on anti-fraud, law and order, tight borders? Like, these are all, ooh, here's one that's really gonna be divisive, but is nonetheless, I think, important. We want an H1B visa program that is conservative in, in terms of total numbers, but gives business the ability to like grab the best and the brightest from all over the world. I expect this one to be split.

• 45:20Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, 50%.

• 45:22Tom Bilyeu?

  The funny thing I was gonna say, that, that one's like a 50/50.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  And middle America hates it.

• 45:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  The coastal cities are more favorable.

• 45:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Of course, because they're the ones that want to do the hiring.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  We talked about housing, we talked about H1B, immigration, immigration policy?

• 45:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes. Uh, well, so generalized immigration policy would be strict borders. I don't know how else to say that. Uh, zero illegal immigrants and sensible broad, uh, broad immigration policy. It's a little vague, but we'll see.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  I was just thinking that. I was like, the AI is gonna be like.

• 45:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, mm.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 45:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Not bad, not bad.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  That was surprisingly high, yeah.

• 45:55Tom Bilyeu?

  We got trending green again.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is bad, okay.

• 45:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, our map is not cumulative, though, right? This is just per policy.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, per policy, yeah, yeah. We're doing each individual one by itself.

• 46:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. I mean, that gets you an idea of the kind of things that I'd be doing. I'm really trying to look at, okay, you've got a broad basket of Americans. And ultimately, everybody's happy when the economy is booming. And I think that there are really basic things that operate in my brain that lead to my decision making. There's a certain amount of regulation that you need to make sure that workers aren't being taken advantage of, which we know from the early 1900s and every time before that, they will get taken advantage of if you don't have protections. So you want to make sure that you have those. But then, what ends up happening is those regulations just grow and grow and grow and grow and grow, and they begin to choke out business. It actually ends up being bad for the tax base because you're not able to grow at the level that you want to grow. If your mental model is every regulation is me,

• 46:51Tom Bilyeu?

  the individual worker being fought for, you're not going to like it. But the reality is, what I think history shows just unequivocally, is that regulatory capture is always about the corporations and it's never about the individual. And so people have come to confuse government stepping in and regulating with protecting me. But the reality is, I think we can all agree, there's more regulations now than there has ever been. And, let's say, prior to Trump, there's more regulations than there's ever been, and the economy is an absolute disaster. So all of those regulations have not helped us. And so if you look at the way that the economic system works, is people go to the government, and as a business, they've got the money to lobby, and they're going to lobby for things that are in their favor.

• 47:33Tom Bilyeu?

  And so, once you realize, oh, the people that are going, getting people's ear, or getting them, they're the ones drafting the legislation. So you've got the companies drafting the legislation, begging for the industry to be regulated. And the reason that they will ask for the industry to be regulated, or the specific way in which they will ask the industry to be regulated, will be beneficial to them and will ice out other people. That is how it always works. If you look at housing, you'll see it clear as day. You get placed... Places like Houston that have just deregulated the life out of it. And houses are, they're not, not an asset, but they're not an asset that just goes up. Rent stay relatively flat, home prices stay relatively flat. That's incredible. That's what people should want.

• 48:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, I understand if you have a house, you want the, it to go up, up, up, up, up, up. But it creates the distortion that we're seeing now where it's like, if you got in.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Then you're winning, you're laughing, you're loving life. If you didn't get in, it gets farther out of reach, farther out of reach, farther out of reach. It's happening right now and you don't have to look very far in the past to see people get violent. If you ice them out of the economic system, they will eventually turn violent. And even before they turn violent, they start like living lives of misery. You get deaths of despair start skyrocketing. So that one to me is just, it's grotesque that people don't look at that and say, oh, we can't do this. I understand how hard life is, and so I don't want to make this sound easy. But if everybody thinks of life in terms of policy rather than what helps me, then it's like, okay, cool. Yeah, I'm willing to compete in this system and I'm looking for everybody else to compete.

• 49:09Tom Bilyeu?

  But when you start trying to do things that give you an edge, like they're specific to your circumstance, that's where I'm like, it's evil.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:17Tom Bilyeu?

  And I don't think everybody does it to be evil. I think most people do it because they don't understand it. Getting people to think, how do you make the system work when it doesn't know who's going to be the person in the system? That's the right way to approach it.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Tom, you made a mediocre president, uh, Brooklyn 12.

• 49:31Tom Bilyeu?

  How dare you?

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Brooklyn Jamal hates you, Maria Miami loves you.

• 49:34Tom Bilyeu?

  America loves me. America loves me.

• 49:36Speaker 01

  You throw, you, you hit it on the part of China.

• 49:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Every one of those is green, green, green. Let the record reflect. Once you understand what people want, people want things that are going to work and that hold people accountable. And it's the accountability part that's really interesting. There is such a desire to see people punished right now that if you can come up with a policy that is both good for the American public or perceived as good for the American public. But I actually only put other than the flowers thing.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:02Tom Bilyeu?

  I actually only put for things that I actually think would be useful. But the ones where we really got it was where somebody got jabbed a little bit.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Whether it's China getting their. Sanctions, or whether it's the Congress and Senate being held accountable for their budget proposals. They want to know like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like this guy, he's he's got an eye on people.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  Give us a 30 second State of the Union, address your constituents. How would you talk to your voting base now that you had it? You stepped in the in the chair for a second. You you held the nuclear football. How do you feel about being the president? Is there any nuance that it added to you? Any like closing thoughts, stuff like that?

• 50:38Tom Bilyeu?

  To my fellow Americans, it was an absolute honor to serve you. I know that I am going to be a one term president, not doing things that based on what's popular. But man, we really can do a lot together if we can stay focused on cause and effect and get this done. So I appreciate all your support on all my green initiatives. That sounded like a like energy thing. I appreciate all your support on the dish it. Wow. I appreciate all your support on the different initiatives that I put forward. And I look forward to seeing what is in store for all of us in the future. It is bright days ahead, I assure you.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  We need to play like the dun dun da da as he goes out.

• 51:20Tom Bilyeu?

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