This Is Just the Beginning: Economic Collapse, AI Takeover & the War Over Your Kids | The Tom Bilyeu Show

Tom and Drew walk you through the current state of the stock market, Bitcoin’s unpredictable surge, gold peaking at all-time highs, and the relentless uncertainty plaguing investors. The duo then shifts focus to the seismic dynamics between the US and China, analyzing a thought-provoking video that pulls the curtain back on China's vulnerabilities in the ongoing tariff war. You’ll get an unfiltered look at why companies are pivoting away from Chinese manufacturing, how currency manipulation can rattle financial stability, and the real-world impact of global supply chain risk. Tom and Drew don’t just tackle economic facts – they challenge media narratives and urge listeners to look beyond the headlines to the real drivers of market sentiment. If you’re looking for actionable insight into how today’s economic chess match could play out, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss. SHOWNOTES 00:00 Global Uncertainty Amid Trump Era 03:50 "Uncertainty in US-China Dynamics" 07:48 US-China GDP: Buyer vs. Seller Dynamics 11:37 Public Companies' Pricing Pressure 14:36 China's Currency Manipulation Accusations 19:31 China's Advanced Chip Manufacturing Plans 23:14 US-China AI & Chip Rivalry 25:59 "Managing Uncertainty in Investing" 30:21 Parental Choice in Education 32:47 Google Antitrust and AI Concerns 34:29 Data, AI Race, and Regulation 39:55 AI-Assisted Screenwriting Insights 42:06 Evaluating Non-Nutritive Food Additives 44:58 Evolutionary Sperm Competition Theory 47:40 Evolutionary Mating Strategies 50:25 "Trust and Relationship Rules" CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Audible: Sign up for a free 30 day trial at https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY https://audible.com/IMPACTTHEORY1 Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com https://www.vitalproteins.com/ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Upway: Get $150 OFF any purchase over a thousand when you use code IMPACT at https://upway.co https://upway.co/. Thrive Market: ​​Go to https:thrivemarket.com/impact http://thrivemarket.com/impact for 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! American Alternative Assets: If you're ready to explore gold as part of your investment strategy, call 1-888-615-8047 or go to https://TomGetsGold.com https://tomgetsgold.com/ Tech Unheard: Tune into Tech Unheard from Arm and NPM—wherever you get your podcasts. Monarch Money: Use code THEORY at https://monarchmoney.com https://monarchmoney.com/ for 50% off your first year! Mint Mobile: If you like your money, Mint Mobile is for you. Shop plans at https://mintmobile.com/impact. https://mintmobile.com/impact DISCLAIMER: Upfront payment of $45 for 3-month 5 gigabyte plan required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customer offer for first 3 months only, then full-price plan options available. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on myTwitch stream https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT atwww.twitch.tv/tombilyeu https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:apple.co/impacttheory http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Tesla earnings report also drops today and people are mad. And RFK knocks food diet out of the US food supply. Drew, BTC gold and the Dow are up. But the Dow is also on track for its worst April since the Great Depression. So I hope that you're not checking your portfolio very often.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  No, no, I am. I'm a holder. I'm a holder, at least when it comes to the major indexes. Okay, Dow up about 3%. NASDAQ, S and P at the time of this recording, all averaged about 3%. To your point that we're getting a lot of news that they've been the lowest since the Great Depression, biggest swing since recession, a lot of these different attributes for interday movement. So in one day, they drop. About 5% in one day, up 5%. But in the grand scheme of things, we're about flat from year over year, so.

• 2:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, but I have to say that my favorite stat about the stock market right now is that it has 11 times had a drop of more than 1,000 points in a single day. And four of them have been in April. Or, or have been since Trump came into office. I forget which is true. But definitely, I think since uh, his uh, Freedom Day, Liberation Day, whatever it was. So it's had an effect, Drew, when you've got 100 plus years where you don't see those kind of movements. And all of a sudden, in a 30 day period, you get four of your most volatile days ever. So you can certainly speak to the volatility now. Traders will have you believe that volatility is, some traders, I should be very clear. Uh, will have you believe that volatility is a good thing. You certainly see a lot of love for the volatility in BTC.

• 3:00Tom Bilyeu?

  From our man, Michael Saylor, who has been trending a lot recently as he just continues to gobble up BTC.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  Speaking of which, BTC broke 90 again and is up 4% today. So that's a welcome sign to a lot of investors. BTC went as low as 60 a couple of weeks ago. So it being 90 is a healthy indicator. But to me, is this like a recession hedge? Cause gold is also hitting a new high. So are people just taking it out of the stock market and kind of parking it? What's your read of like the sentiment or where this money is moving?

• 3:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, the sentiment is definitely, people are uncertain. There is so much uncertainty going on right now. And to overlook that, I think would be a mistake. I think the uncertainty is rightfully um, being read from Trump's. What certainly to the outside world is erratic behavior, whether you believe in 4D chess or Tesseract chess, or whatever you want to call it, it is functionally erratic. In that people are unable to predict what he's going to do next. Uh, also, I think it would be unwise to think that we understand how the US-China dynamic is going to play out. I think that there is a wild amount of uncertainty in that. Uh, and so we're all going to have to go through the ups and downs here. I think that we'll um, start to see some of this level out a little bit as people,

• 4:15Tom Bilyeu?

  A, grow used to the hokey pokey tariffs, and as they see other countries. Trees either actually get on board or they start stragging out to the point where people like, yeah, I don't buy it. I don't think anything's going to happen. You'll at least, even if we go down, you'll at least see some sense of I can predict the outcome return back to the market. And predictable, we're actually going to look at this as we look closer at China's economy. One of the notes that they make in the video that we're going to show is that it's okay to be down. You just want predictable. You want to know like, where are we going from here? And when people are wildly uncertain, they pull back. And the pulling back can be more problematic than a steady state like, okay, at least we know where we're at. Now, that has its limits. You can drop

• 4:58Tom Bilyeu?

  so far that it's just all bad all the time. But I think that we will see a little bit of that stability return. But you're not going to get the big stability until we find out what is actually going on with China. I think that is a gigantic question mark that we're going to feature a lot today. I think it's, it's important to remember how much spin is out there. And I'll be sure to push on that even more when we talk about it. But it, this is not a guaranteed US victory, but it certainly isn't a guaranteed China victory either. And when you've got two, the two biggest economies playing a game of chicken, it's going to make people feel a lot of question marks. So we've got to get to the other side of that. Now, the fact that gold is

• 5:40Tom Bilyeu?

  going up, I think is, that is the thing that makes the most sense to me when you look at this, that gold is where you go in times of uncertainty. And so maximum uncertainty, we see gold going up. There for a while, it was unclear as to whether Bitcoin was also going to go up. And I heard somebody put a thesis that's pretty interesting, that Bitcoin will lag gold, but go bigger. So we'll see if that ends up being true. Gold is having a moment right now. And right now, as of the time that we're recording this, Bitcoin is really on a tear. But will it remain on that tear? I don't know. So we're a long way from all time highs. And I believe that gold is at an all time high.

• 6:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, gold is at an all time high peak for sure.

• 6:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, so I don't.

• 6:25Tom Bilyeu?

  While optimistic people will tell you that BTC is gonna do the exact same thing. I don't know that we have reason to believe that. So we'll see. But I've been surprised at how correlated Bitcoin had been until today's move with the stock market. As the stock market goes down, Bitcoin goes down. As the stock market goes up, Bitcoin goes up. So that to me says that what people are leaning on is the volatility of it. They they're treating it as a risk on asset. They're not treating it as the inflation hedge that I'm personally treating it as. But that's also why you hear me wanting for the day when Bitcoin will be a boring asset like gold, where you're not seeing these huge volatile moves. I get that that's not popular, but for me, I want a place that I can go to protect myself from inflation.

• 7:08Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't need another risk on asset. So we'll see. I I get that that has to do with my unique financial position and does not represent, well, I'm sure a lot of people love Bitcoin, but nonetheless, it's true for me.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  You brought it up earlier about us doing a deep dive in the Chinese economy. This is a video from the China Observer, which gives us the other side of this tariff war. On the backs of news, we heard that China is telling other countries not to do trade deals with the US. This kind of uncovers what China is trying to block and how these long-term terrorists can impact their economy.

• 7:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Before you hit play, it is very important that everybody understand, one, that every word out of anybody's mouth, mine included, is framed. Now, it may be framed as accurately as the person is able to get it, but everybody has a frame of reference and they're going to show you the world through that frame of reference. So please understand that intentionally or not, this is spin. And also, because this fits my narrative so well, I'm skeptical. But I will admit, this does a very good job of outlining. The risks on China's side of being in a protracted trade war with the US.

• 8:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, this is very much, this feels like it's coming from a US lens more than this is how people in China would see this moment. So with all of that on the table, take a look.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Every day, I wake up to an empty assembly line, an empty workshop and rusty machines. By the end of the day, we barely managed to make a few pairs of shoes. Even the quality checks are finishing early. We can't even cut a few pieces of fabric with the mold every day. And there's a mountain of unsold stock piling up.

• 8:54Tom Bilyeu?

  So we've talked about this before, but it's incredibly important for people to understand that the US economy, not only are we either first or second in GDP, depending on who you ask and how they count it, but it's us in China. We're at the tippy top. And the fact that some people can credibly say that China's bigger and some people credibly say the US is bigger tells you that we're peers roughly.

• 9:16Tom Bilyeu?

  The important thing, though, is that the way that we account for our GDP is that we buy a lot of stuff. The way that China accounts for their GDP is they sell a lot of stuff. So you can imagine in a trade war, the people that are buying things, if they say, yeah, we're not going to buy these, call them luxury goods or non-essentials, you're theoretically in a much stronger position. Meaning your GDP can lower and it not feel as much like it's going down. You don't get to buy as many cool things, but as long as you're still able to get your groceries, you're still able to get energy at a reasonable cost, able to keep a roof over your head, et cetera, et cetera.

• 9:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Your life isn't going to be impacted as much as the people who are selling. And that's basically what they're demonstrating here is you've got factories now just sitting on their hands because the tariffs are so high that American companies are like, ah, we need to see how this plays out before we put in too many more orders.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  At the Shanghai port, routes to the US are nearly shut down with capacity dropping by 40% and bookings plummeting by 63.5%. At Wu Hu's Huangni Tian anchorage, there are ships everywhere with no place to go. Meanwhile, the yuan is depreciating quickly, falling nearly 10% against the euro in just one month, and the financial market is unstable. The Economist Intelligence Unit predicts that if US President Trump raises tariffs by 60%, China's GDP growth will lose 2.5 percentage points between 2025 and 2027.

• 10:47Tom Bilyeu?

  If your growth rate, I think China is somewhere around the 5% mark right now, which is amazing and everybody in America would kill for that, dropping by 2.5 points would basically cut their economy in half. So take that with a grain of salt, maybe it doesn't drop that much, maybe China's GDP is a little bit higher. People, I watched the whole breakdown on how China has found themselves in a situation where it's impossible even for them to get an accurate assessment of what their GDP actually is, because the Chinese Communist system creates an incentive to lie.

• 11:28Tom Bilyeu?

  And so, once you start lying, it's like impossible to stop, because you can't be like, oh, let's say you faked, we're up a percentage point three years ago. Well, what are you going to do next year? So they, if they're, if they know they've got to be up by a percentage point to impress somebody, then each year, how far does it drift now? It's not going to go up by that much every year, just be too obvious too quickly. But the incentive anyway is to upward, there's upward pressure. China's admitted this themselves, they understand that this is something that's difficult to take at the word of the, the different people that are in charge of their region. But there are ways to get relatively close, so 5% is probably not ridiculously far off.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Let's break it down with Lululemon yoga pants. They sell in the US for $118, but the Chinese factory only gets $6. Even if the yuan depreciates by half, from 7.5 yuan to 15 yuan per dollar, the factory's cost would only drop to $3, a negligible amount in the eyes of the brand. Worse still, currency fluctuations cause raw material costs to soar, leading to unstable quotes from Chinese factories. This instability is scarier than high prices. Brands would rather place orders in places with stable currencies like Vietnam or India. The real reason brands are shifting orders is the threat of higher tariffs and geopolitical risks.

• 12:52Tom Bilyeu?

  That is a really interesting point, that when you recognize that most of the companies that are buying in any sort of significant quantity are public companies. So there is a lot of pressure on them to be able to communicate to Wall Street, this is what we think our earnings are going to be. And so they'll take a hit if they say, listen, the prices have changed. This is now what they are, if it's worse. Because people are going to say, okay, you're not going to be as profitable next quarter. However, the thing that becomes hard for them is when they don't know what their prices are going to be in, so they're fluctuating wildly because they're not going to be able to communicate clearly to the street, Wall Street. Wall Street isn't going to know exactly how to rate them, how to express in dollar terms the level of risk.

• 13:37Tom Bilyeu?

  And so it's always risk and return. And given that, companies would rather pivot and reposition themselves somewhere else away from China that's more stable, because at least then they can communicate. And then once things stabilize, they can decide if they want to go back. But the lack of stability is in and of itself a problem. So temporary or otherwise, obviously temporary is better, but temporary or otherwise, when you have that kind of uncertainty, this is why you see the volatility in the markets.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  So it's better for a company to go to Vietnam or India to a place that's not getting increased in tariffs every five days?

• 14:16Tom Bilyeu?

  They're not getting a change in tariffs. So, and this is part of the problem. This is one of the big complaints about the way that Trump is doing this, is he's doing it everywhere. And so even if Vietnam doesn't have the kind of predictable rate that they can say, hey, cool, it's up, but this is what it is. Now, they're less likely to be as volatile as China, which is why I think they're about to talk about this, why different companies are pivoting to different countries. Better that than the place that you know is going to be peak uncertainty for the longest period of time, which is China.

• 14:54Speaker 03

  The trend of decoupling from China isn't something that depreciating the yuan can stop. Lululemon has already moved 15% of its production to Vietnam. Nike has reduced its procurement from China from 35% to 18%. Apple's production capacity in India has doubled. Major retailers are setting a cap on single-country sourcing at no more than 30% and require a six-month stockpile in the US-Mexico region. The large orders that Chinese factories relied on for survival are being slashed. Amazon has directly asked suppliers for non-China supply chain certification in 2024, and the rejection rate for Chinese sellers has surged by 80%. Walmart and Costco are building new warehouses in Mexico,

• 15:37Speaker 03

  and their procurement from China has dropped by over 20% in the first quarter. The trend of depreciation has already started. Since October 2024, the offshore yuan exchange rate has repeatedly broken the 7.3 mark, reaching a low of 7.36.

• 15:53Tom Bilyeu?

  It's important to understand the US for sure, and I'm sure international markets care as well, about when a country manipulates their currency by devaluing it through typically the printing of money. And so what China is being credibly accused of, in my opinion, is manipulating their currency to make sure that their exports are cheap. So you want to devalue the yuan if you want to have strong exports. So that way, people are like, oh, my God, this stuff from China is really cheap because my dollar is strong compared to the yuan. But we've sort of come to this agreement between the US and China

• 16:37Tom Bilyeu?

  that they're going to hold their currency at 7 to 1. Now, obviously, there's going to be fluctuation, but the US starts to complain. Vociferously, once you hit 7.2, to give people a little bit of historicals, August 2019, the yuan fell past the 7 to 1 mark and it just went to 7.03 to 1 US dollars. And the US Treasury, at that point, going to .03, the US Treasury officially labeled China as a currency manipulator for the first time since 1994. Now, Trump was president then, so take it with a grain of salt. He's aggressive towards China. But in 2022 and through 2024, the yuan went to 7.3.

• 17:22Tom Bilyeu?

  And right now, we're like 7.31, I think. And so you're hearing more and more criticism, my understanding is from both the Biden administration and the Trump administration towards China for being a currency manipulator. And so if we're, if we were originally complaining at 7.03 and we're now at 7.3, you can imagine that's going to be the next play. And so China has that tool in their toolkit. They can depreciate their currency and it's not like anybody can stop them. But I think, if I'm not mistaken, what it would do is give Trump the ability to use, like there is an act, I'm forgetting what it is, but there's an act that would let him go, ah, these guys are currency manipulators.

• 18:04Tom Bilyeu?

  And so we can apply secondary sanctions on them, meaning we punish people who do business with them. And so that's where you get into potentially doing some pretty wicked damage to the Chinese economy. Now, the way that they're presenting this is very one-sided in that you're not hearing, how is China going to punch back? Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. And so China is going to counter all of this, every step of the way. And there was a clip from Elon yesterday that I thought was really insightful. And he said, China is full of brilliant, motivated engineers. So expect them to make incredible things. And I'll say that holds true for monetary policy as well.

• 18:50Tom Bilyeu?

  China is full of brilliant people, just as the US is, and they have a lot more people. So if the percentage of brilliance holds from one country to the next, they're just raw number, going to have more brilliant people than we are. And don't expect them to not have an answer.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is the trade war. It goes tit for tat.

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• 21:29Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, we're back. Let's get into it.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  The depreciation of the yuan is ineffective, and the real issue China faces is not just a US tariff war, but a global blockade network formed by over 70 countries. This is no longer a trade war. It's a declaration of the new Cold War. In the semiconductor field, the Netherlands will expand its spend on selling lithography machines to China, including DUV machines, effectively halting China's production of chips below 28 nanometers. Japan is following suit by banning ASML's exports to China, and the US is offering 5.4 billion US dollars in subsidies, creating a three-way partnership that aims to decouple Beijing from the global semiconductor supply chain. Without chips, China can't compete globally.

• 22:15Tom Bilyeu?

  So that might be the most egregious one, where they're not presenting the Chinese side of this. So China, it's my understanding that they plan to bring on, like, ultra sophisticated, I think, on par with what is happening in Taiwan with the really sophisticated chips. They're bringing on their own manufacturing in mainland China. So, again, that's a counterpunch that they've been working on for a while. So that is not somewhere that I would bet against China. If you remove all this stuff, you might slow them down, and maybe that is advantageous. Because honestly, at this point, the cat's out of the bag. They have developed the ability to manufacture these chips. And so now about all you can do is continue to delay them until they're able to bring that online

• 22:59Tom Bilyeu?

  and get up to production capacity that'll let them meet their own needs. But, again, they have counterpunches.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  Under the US IRA policy, its battery companies still rely heavily on China for critical materials like graphite, with over 80% dependence. Companies like LG Energy Solutions must establish non-China supply chains by 2027, pushing Chinese companies into becoming mere technology contractors. The European Union has also raised carbon tariffs to 15%, imposing an additional 945 euro per ton tariff on Chinese steel, effectively excluding China from the market. In Iran, pro-American factions are rising. Iranian President Masoud Prohreskian's faction advocates for restarting nuclear negotiations, creating a behind-the-scenes struggle with Ayatollah Khomeini's hard-line policies.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  China's $400 billion investment in Iran might be at risk of going to waste. North Korea, despite claiming a 3.1% growth, has a GDP of only $30 billion, which is less than the GDP of a single Chinese county. As a strategic buffer zone, its economic support is limited. According to IMF data, since the Russia-Ukraine conflict started, trade between geopolitical blocs has dropped by 12%, and investment has decreased by 20%. This multi-layered decoupling has surpassed a trade war and formed a Cold War-style parallel system. China's adversary is not only the United States, but the entire Western Bloc. Washington think tanks and policy circles generally believe that keeping China trapped

• 24:35Speaker 03

  in the middle-income trap is the ideal outcome for the United States. With a per capita income stagnating at $15,000, China lacks the ability to challenge America's global leadership while avoiding complete collapse that would cause global turmoil.

• 24:49Tom Bilyeu?

  If they can pull it off. But that's gonna be tough, man. Like corralling China with the kind of momentum that they have now is not a foregone conclusion in my mind. This is... There are dangers to our own economy, obviously, as we see with the stock market. There are dangers to inflation, what people will call inflation, the rising prices of all the things that we get from a high-tariff country. I've drawn the distinction many times. People can go look up what I mean by that. So, we still have to play this game very, very carefully. I do not want, I don't want even in my own mind, to take on board everything that's being said in this as if like, "Oh, this is how it's gonna play out. Yay, we're fine."

• 25:34Tom Bilyeu?

  This is still something that has to be done with a ton of diplomacy.

• 25:40Tom Bilyeu?

  We'll see, man.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. What do you think is some of those counter punches that China might be throwing out? Because, you know, according to this video to your right, their currency is being manipulated. The warehouses are empty. They're finding external pressures with their trade partners. But to our point, China has said it time and time again, we'll fight you to the very end. So I think there is some things in their back pocket that they are sitting on. What are some things that might have been left out of this video in your opinion?

• 26:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, so the biggest one is the fact that they're going to be able. Technology, I think, is the single most important point of contact in all of this. That the battle for AI is the battle in the Cold War between the US and China. That will be able to keep them from getting access to those ships when they're already building their own manufacturing capabilities. When you look at the fact that there's, I don't think anybody better in the world at

• 26:32Tom Bilyeu?

  showing how rapidly they can increase the efficiencies of manufacturing. So I won't say that they beat everybody on high end manufacturing. Obviously, the semiconductor industry is not in mainland China. But I have a feeling, given how often they'll look at what other countries are doing and then do it better at scale. They're not the people to bet against being able to bring up their own chip manufacturing capabilities. So that's one. Two, I have a feeling, I don't know what their exact debt to GDP ratio is, but I think it's better than the US's, which means that they have a lot of money printing they can do before they get in the situation that we're in. And the reality is, yes, they're not the world's reserve currency, but

• 27:17Tom Bilyeu?

  they are a very powerful economy that people don't want to lose access to. So I think that they're going to be able to build some allies. I don't know how many they're going to get. Obviously, if the US, if all of North America, so Canada, the US, Mexico and Europe all come together. Okay, then, then it's game over for China. I think that they're really going to struggle to grow in the way that they could grow if they had reach beyond just Asia.

• 27:51Tom Bilyeu?

  I just don't know how lockstep we're gonna move in, given how adversarial Trump has been to his allies. So we'll see. I think there are realities to be faced, which is I I'm gonna place a bet that Europe is far more likely to side with the US and therefore will, grumbling or not, that Canada is far more likely to partner with the US, grumbling or not. Mexico, same thing. That I like to think that Western countries have their eyes open enough to understand that if you have to be partners with somebody, being partners with the US when you disagree with them

• 28:32Tom Bilyeu?

  is a better place to be than being partners with China when they disagree with you. We'll see. That's all gonna play out, but that is definitely my Western sensibilities coming into play.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  Just like you said, we'll see. This is the longest game of chicken on a public stage that we have seen played out. So now it's just gonna see who taps first.

• 28:50Tom Bilyeu?

  The thing we we don't want to lose sight of is we've hardly been at this for like a month. So it's just the living day to day life with uncertainties. It feels like it's going on forever. And this is why people buy high and sell low against the only piece of advice you need in investing, buy low and sell high. The reason that people can't do it is a day feels interminably long when you're worried that you may have lost everything or that you may end up looking like a fool. And so people panic and a month can seem interminable. And that's why something you said at the top of the show is important for people to remember. You're gonna hear a lot of noise about the Dow Jones average, but it's where it was almost exactly a year ago.

• 29:34Tom Bilyeu?

  And so, yeah, we've had these huge swings, but when you zoom out, it's like, we're flat.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  Well, in Supreme Court news, they have a simple question to debate on Tuesday. Do parents of public school children have a constitutional right to opt out their kids from classroom lessons involving storybooks that feature LGBTQ themes or characters? The Supreme Court will tackle the question today in a closely watched First Amendment case. What say you about this decision from the Supreme Court? Supreme Court, where do you think it falls?

• 30:03Tom Bilyeu?

  I'll be very interested to see what they say. Obviously, their read on the Constitution is far better than mine, but I have a very strong feeling on this one, which is that the state does not own your children. Parents own, it's a terrible word, but I don't have a better one.

• 30:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Children belong to their parents, not to the state. And if a parent says, I do not want my child involved in that book, then they shouldn't be involved in that book. Flip it. If there was a book that was all about that the only moral way to live your life is a man and a woman to be married and to raise kids, if your parents, gay parents that have come together and you're raising a child, I would get why you'd be like, hard pass, absolutely not. So, yeah, parents should absolutely have the right to say, my child's gonna step out of the classroom for that period, which is my understanding of what's happening. It isn't banning books or anything like that. It's just should parents have the right to opt their child out of being presented with that book?

• 31:03Tom Bilyeu?

  And to me, the punchline is absolutely.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, a group of parents from Montgomery County, Maryland, claim constitutional protections for religious exercise means that they have opportunity to exempt their kids from that instruction on gender or sexuality that may counter their teachings of faith.

• 31:19Tom Bilyeu?

  I can't believe this got rejected and rejected and rejected so that it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. That is insane. To me, it's just like, yeah, obviously, they're your kids. Dude, as a non-parent, I feel like I'm more inflamed about this stuff. When California passed a law that they could hide from you, that your child wanted to be called a different name in school, I was like, dude, if I had kids, hard pass, I'd be gone. Out of the school system for sure, possibly out of California. That is, there's something in that that bothers me very deeply. So, yeah, children do not belong to the state.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  And one of the parents who called up the two, he has now homeschooled his kid to stop, quote unquote,

• 32:01Speaker 01

  Indoctrination.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  I mean, when you flipped it, it makes a lot of sense to me. Like, gay parents shouldn't be subject to their child being forced on. Hetero is the way to go. This is how you live your life. I think they would have the same reaction that these religious parents are having to LGBTQ ideals being put on kids. So I understand, maybe we just don't talk about sexuality to kids. Maybe we just. When I was growing up, it was sex ed in 11th grade, maybe 8th grade, depending on where you went. But like.

• 32:31Tom Bilyeu?

  It's a pretty big swing.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  But I mean, like, maybe that is what it should be. It should be a home thing, but.

• 32:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Back in the day, parents could certainly opt their kids out of sex ed in my school. Which seems completely appropriate. If parents don't want you on that, then that they should be able to do that. I am almost as shocked as I was today during the live. That 60% of the community would rather die than run ads. Long story, Chad, you'd have to go back and check out the lives.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Black Mirror, season one, episodes have been coming back.

• 33:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh my God, I can't believe that this is controversial. Can you channel it as a parent? Like, yeah.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  Cause I'm not gonna lie, at first I was like, well, that's exclusion. I thought it was a book banning thing too, but as soon as you flipped it and kind of posed that question, I'm like, well, yeah, if you don't agree, tell your kid, your kids should be able to opt out, have them go sit in the cafeteria, have them go sit in the library. Like, whatever they need to do to get out of that, you should have that ability to. I'm not opposed that for any ideal, anything. But I also talk to my kid a lot and I put values on them. So I may have a different view than, you know, the school is always right and the state should tell their kids, maybe there are people that feel that way, but it's not me.

• 33:45Tom Bilyeu?

  We, we are all indoctrinating everybody all the time. Like 100%, the dad is indoctrinating his child. So the question becomes not, should kids be indoctrinated? They're going to be a culture. Parents, they're, they are agents of indoctrination. That's what they do. And so the question becomes, who should have the right to indoctrinate your children? The parents or the government? I just can't even believe that this is a question. So anyway, like I said, uh, I am perfectly willing to abide by what the Supreme Court decides. That's the whole point. Uh, but this one I would be, I would be, um, I'll be very vocal.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:27Tom Bilyeu?

  If they say that you don't have the right, I would obviously read the whole document, the whole report, make sure that I'm not getting something wrong here. But, ooh buddy, that's nuts.

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, in business news, Google says the DOJ's proposal to break, uh, break them up will be harmful in the global race with China. So for some context, Google's ad business, including Chrome and their Android units, were labeled a monopoly and they were then effectively ordered to be broken up by a DOJ representative. However, their counterclaim is the DOJ's proposal would hamstring how we develop AI and have a government-appointed committee regulate the design and development of our products. Um, that would behold back American innovation at a critical juncture. We're in a fiercely competitive global race with China for the next generation of technology leadership, and Google is at the forefront of American companies making scientific and technological breakthroughs. Now, I've, I've heard you ring that drum about how we need to beat China in the AI race.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Should there be exceptions for monopoly hearing certain things until that AI space is materialized? Should there be some type of Manhattan Project exception for Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, until we win the AI war or should?

• 35:37Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I would certainly want Google to be able to make its best case. There, there is no doubt about that because depending on what parts of their business they are going to force them to lop off, I could see them not having access to enough data to train the models well enough to make the advances that we as a nation want to make. Uh, so that I get, there, that could be a very real argument. Now, at the same time, these guys have a financial incentive to also convince them of that, whether it's true about the AI side of things or not.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, so I would. Caution the regulatory bodies to remember you're not as close to this problem as they are. And then I would also remind the companies that when you get into monopolies, that ends up being bad for the consumer. And so we have antitrust laws for a reason. Those antitrust laws tend to work out better for the consumer, but it's not a free pass. And so this has to be done well. This has to be done with a scalpel. You've got to make sure that you're looking at the downstream consequences. And we are at a moment, for better or worse, when we are in a cold war with a rival power at a time where the technology, the implications of winning the technological

• 36:50Tom Bilyeu?

  race couldn't be bigger. And so, yeah, I would be very thoughtful. Now, the good news is, I don't think anybody has a monopoly on AI. So OpenAI is doing a bang up job without the kind of access to data that Google has. You've got Elon Musk, who's done a phenomenal job of putting himself in a position to collect ungodly amounts of data between what's going on in X and the self-driving cars. That's a part I don't think people think about is how much data they're drinking in about

• 37:24Tom Bilyeu?

  behaviors, movements, location data, mapping the world. Like, it's crazy. So it's probably not the end of the world if the regulators make a bad decision on Google and block something that slows them down a little bit. But honestly, if I could peer inside of it and see, ooh, this really would help us win the AI race, it's worth it. Like, you want to win the AI race. But I don't say that lightly because consumer protections from monopolies is a good thing. You want competition. It has all kinds of knock on effects, including oftentimes you'll see, at

• 38:08Tom Bilyeu?

  least of the companies when they split them up are well-run, you'll see an increase in share price, you see more competitiveness with the individualized products, because now they can't just be a part of a portfolio, like they've really got to stand on their own. And so people really start trying to make that thing sing. So.

• 38:27Tom Bilyeu?

  It's tough. AI matters tremendously. There's enough other players in the game that I'm not gonna lose sleep over this.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 38:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Quick break, but don't go anywhere. There's more to come after this short break from our sponsors. Alright, we're back. Let's get into it.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  In other AI news, Lovable dropped an app that claims all you have to do is type and build an app. Idea app in seconds is taking vibe coding to a whole new level. You use Lovable, you're talking about this weekend, right?

• 38:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, so this one, for anybody that's been at the headline level of AI, this is gonna be like, yeah, obviously, we've been able to do this for a long time. So I won't say, so I'm not a coder, let me be very clear. We have a coder in-house who is endlessly frustrated by vibe coding, apps and webpages. He's endlessly frustrated that you just run into these problems, that he's like, is it really speeding me up? I don't know. But as somebody that has on the periphery been trying all of these things, this was the first time where I was gobsmacked. Where I was like, man, I've hit dead ends before, very early in the process, to the point where I was like, meh.

• 39:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, if you're not a coder like this, it just doesn't do anything interesting. You're far better off spending your time going and finding an app that already exists that does that thing, rather than trying to do it yourself. And then I was trying to do my anime and manga tracking, and there's an anime that I like a lot called Devil May Cry by Adi Shankar, which by the way, this guy's unbelievable. And he's American. And so ironically, I think the most of his animation is done out of South Korea, but there are purists about anime has to be from Japan. And so the app that I use to track doesn't include Devil May Cry. Anyway, I found that so offensive that I'm like, I'm gonna make my own.

• 40:21Tom Bilyeu?

  And so I went and started using Firebase, which is Google's. It got frustrated very fast. And I was like, let me try Lovable. I've been hearing about it. Dropped into Lovable and I was like, holy lord. It was, I got so much farther. Now, I still ended up in a death loop of like, I was trying to make a change, it just could not make the change. It would, every time it would make the change, it would break something. It kept breaking like, you can either have A or B, you can't have A and B. Like, as soon as I would fix A, B would break. As soon as I would fix B, A would break again. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. So I was like, okay, if I were a coder at this point, I would just go in, see the exact problem, because it could tell me what the problem was. But I'm not going to go into the code. So anyway, this felt like a huge leap forward. People will forgive me if they're far more familiar.

• 41:06Tom Bilyeu?

  And but I've tried Claude 3.7. I've tried Firebase. I've tried Lovable. I think I tried one other one. And all of them, I just will dead end really early. Like Firebase, I dead ended so early. And Lovable was able to recommend an API, integrate the API, start pulling the information. It didn't make me prompt it for like, hey, populate this with dummy data. It just did all of that. So I literally gave it the exact same, a copy and paste prompt from what I had done in Firebase, moved it over to Lovable and the results were night and day different. It was very impressive. So, look, these things are all going to go back and forth. They're all going to be leapfrogging each other. But that one felt exciting.

• 41:50Tom Bilyeu?

  That was the first time where I, as a complete non-coder, was like, oh, this isn't just hype. Like, there's really something here. And the Anthropic CEO said by the end of this year, he believes that basically 99% of all coding will be done with AI. That was the first time where I was like, I don't know about the next seven months. But, bro, the next 12?

• 42:11Speaker 01

  12, definitely.

• 42:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Yo, it's, it's moving fast.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  It almost reminded me of how you described it with writing, like, writing with ChatGPT is like having like the most efficient writer's room possible. I feel like that's probably what coders feel like with like ChatGPT or some of these AI apps of like, I know how to build it, do the minutia, let me get into my creative, do the minutia, you know what I mean? Like.

• 42:32Tom Bilyeu?

  You, you have just nailed it. Because I'm not a coder, that very self-evident statement of truth you just made did not occur to me.

• 42:41Tom Bilyeu?

  It's exactly right. This is where writing is, where I cannot believe how much faster I write now. It's, Lisa and I were running the math. It's at least twice as fast. It might be four times as fast. Where it's just unbelievable. Because I spent 18 months, something like that, as a professional screenwriter, I was just paid to write. Uh, and it would take me about eight months to get a first draft of a well thought out screenplay from like, I need an idea to here is the draft. Uh, I'm convinced now that I could do that for sure in four months. And that's probably with rewriting.

• 43:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So it's dramatic, but there is a handoff where if I just say, write me this scene, it would be super cheesy. And so I do all the brainstorming, all the problem solving with AI, which it is unbelievably good at. Uh, and then you still have to go in and like script. But then if you're like, ah, there's something not right. What's not right? You can feed it to the AI. It's very insightful. It's just not good at execution. Uh, and in lovable's defense, it did keep telling me the problem's right here. The problem's right here. And I was just like, bro, I'm not going to go fix that. You need to fix it. And it just couldn't.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  No, so we'll look forward to see that. HHS Secretary RFK is today announcing a plan to remove artificial food dyes from the American food supply with the FDA. I know RFK is controversial in a lot of areas. To me, this seems like a slam dunk win. I don't know if you got anything on this one, but.

• 44:09Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, look, at a high level, I'm always tense when the government thinks that they know better. Because when we started Quest, they were like, you shouldn't have fat in your food. We're like, uh, what? So that was absurd, but we were all in a loop of, uh, fat's the problem. And that ended up not being true. However, when you look at our food supply, something is going wrong. There's either environmental toxins or something that we're putting in our body. Given that the vast majority of the things you put in your body are food, uh, the food matters. And given that other countries that don't have quite our obesity epidemic and quite our chronic health burden, they don't allow some of those sayings in food. I'm here for taking a more conservative stance.

• 44:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, if he were trying to ban a macronutrient, then I would be like, hold the, the phone here. Like you're, you're getting way out over your skis on this, but saying we're not going to do color dye. Yeah, let's run the experiment. Let's see what happens. Uh, I think there are probably more things like that that are like, yeah, they're not really doing anything additive. It's worth at least checking to see like, how does this play out if we take this out of the food supply? Uh, so I'm, I'm going to give him latitude. I think he's very sincere. I believe. History may prove this wrong, but I believe that he really wants to help. He really wants to do good and he's really willing to look at what the data says. Given that he's starting conservative with something like food diet, which is not a nutritional value thing, it just makes it look more appealing.

• 45:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, let's give it a shot.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, we'll see what happens. And then last but not least, summer's right around the corner. So, fellas, next time your girlfriend, wife tells you she's going to a girls' night out without you, I have a list of questions for you to ask her.

• 45:55Speaker 04

  Just say, "This doesn't work for me. This doesn't work for me because I don't want my girlfriend slash future wife half naked out with a bunch of other women getting hit on by men all night." And I would also ask you, doll, if you're with me and Tappy, why do you feel the need to go out and get all this attention from other men? Why? Because that's why she's doing it. No, she's doing it for herself and her girl. Really? Then why aren't they sitting in the house? Why didn't they get all dressed up in the miniskirts and the sequins and all that stuff? And buy some alcohol if they want to be tipsy? And go sit in somebody's house and dance with a big disco ball on the ceiling? Because there's no other guys there. Because they're lying to you. Because the whole point is to go out and to get hit on by other men. Because you're not enough. She's not that into you. You are like, "Okay."

• 46:39Speaker 04

  But she also wants all the attention from everyone else. Bottom line is, girls' night out is a disaster. It's a hot mess. It's not well-intentioned. It's all bad things!

• 46:51Speaker 01

  Is a girls' night out all bad things?

• 46:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Definitely not. Listen, for some people, sure. It's a, it's an excuse to go not only get male attention, but to cash in on some of that male attention, for sure. I'm gonna, I'm gonna take this conversation to an evolutionary place and let's see where we get. Because I think that she's asking very surface-level questions. And the real questions to ask are, and I promise, this is all gonna come back around. Why is, and if you have kids, now is the time to eject them out of the car or wherever you are. Why is the penis shaped the way that it's shaped? Why is the clitoris on the outside? Why do, if men have been away from the woman, why do they deposit more semen upon having

• 47:38Tom Bilyeu?

  sex? Why is it that women are vocal during sex?

• 47:45Tom Bilyeu?

  When you really look at the shape of the penis, it should terrify you for what our ancestry was like. Because it, I don't know how hard to go in the paint here, Drew. Yeah, give it to him. Uh, it's shaped like a shovel to scoop things out. And you can imagine what it's trying to get rid of, which means that on an evolutionary timescale, there was so much what's known as sperm competition, meaning the woman had viable sperm in her at the same time, before the egg was fertilized. So often that the penis most likely to scoop out what was there before it, won, like it actually changed the shape. Now, I'm not saying at the human level. I'm saying this is how you come up through the animal kingdom.

• 48:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, it ends with that final bit of, uh, fine tuning at the human level.

• 48:37Tom Bilyeu?

  That men ejaculate more volume when they've been away and fear that their woman has been around other men. The assumption is that you've had sex with other men and I've got to out compete that sperm. And so that means that that was an evolutionary strategy that was rewarded. So, meaning it, it actually mattered. The guys that did that had, the guys with the most shovely shape and that were depositing the most sperm when they've been away from their woman, they won, dude. They won and it echoed back. And then why is the, and remember, I am going to make all this add up to girls' night.

• 49:12Tom Bilyeu?

  And why is the Caturus on the outside?

• 49:17Tom Bilyeu?

  If you look at our closest genetic relative, it's the bonobo. And the bonobo live in societies where they use touching of the genitals as ways to, um,

• 49:30Tom Bilyeu?

  like overcome friction in society. So if you got in a fight, if two women get in a fight or whatever, then they'll go up and they'll touch each other on, on the genitals as an apology, as a way to just be like, girl, I'm with you. Literally.

• 49:45Tom Bilyeu?

  I think the only thing that makes sense, because that thing should be a button on the inside. Can we agree? So it's like, the only thing from an evolutionary standpoint, if it was just about pregnancy, that shit would be on the inside. And your goal as a man would be to bink, bink, bink, and just like, do the things that maximize your likelihood of getting them pregnant. So, but it's not, it's on the outside. And I think that's because it works at a minimum dual duty. And, uh, yeah, I find that utterly fascinating. Now, for people that know the anatomy of a clitoris, it's actually not just on the outside, it's

• 50:26Tom Bilyeu?

  also on the inside, and it wraps around the vaginal canal. But, anybody that's been with a woman, can tell you right now that the bit on the outside is the best bit, Drew, and it is the easiest. Yeah. So, I think that evolution has made women want to be the center of sexual attention. That women are designed to attract the highest quality mate that they can attract. That they, just like men, women run a dual strategy. And when they're pregnant, they prefer, when you're on the pill or pregnant, women will show a preference for men with softer features. When they are ovulating, they show a pref,

• 51:08Tom Bilyeu?

  or not on the pill, they show a preference for men with more traditionally masculine features. So, that tells you, I'm looking for the highest quality genetic stock that I can get at one part of my cycle, and then I'm looking for a man that can help me take care of this child at another point in my cycle. And, I think it wise for people to embrace the reality, so that you don't have a deranged relationship. My wife is gonna drive herself crazy if she doesn't think I'm gonna find other women attractive. Men are meant to seek sexual variety. Now, to honor my marriage, and my desire to bond with one woman, I'm not going to actually pursue other women. But, I don't want her driving herself crazy, thinking that, I only have eyes for you, I never look at other women.

• 51:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, if she looks over and I'm looking at somebody's ass, she shouldn't be like, oh my god, he doesn't love me. Like, she even said, uh, you're not enough. That's not why a woman wants to, not why all women, uh, want to go to the girls' night out. It is that evolution has said, hey, Being the center of sexual attention is a great trade-off. So, men want to focus on you. You want to be focused on, and I'm well aware, they only want to be focused on men that they find desirable. I get that. But nonetheless, they have to have that impulse in order to do the dance of,

• 52:25Tom Bilyeu?

  "I want to be attractive to you so that you will pursue me, so that I can put you through your paces, so I can figure out if you're going to be the right person to mate with, either from a physiological standpoint or from long-term access to resources." Which is why women both often will have a type. "I want a guy who's tall and strong." I don't think anybody's going to trip out hearing that. But also, "I want a guy that makes me laugh." The laughter, humor, is a sign of intelligence. Intelligence is a proxy for you'll be able to get access to resources. So, you've got this intricate dance, and evolution has given women a positive feedback loop when they put themselves at the center of that sexual attention. They're picky, they're choosy, obviously, women are the sexual gatekeepers.

• 53:07Tom Bilyeu?

  But that is part of what's going on in the desire to go out and to have that male attention. There's just an algorithm running in their brain that makes that feel really wonderful. Now, they're humans. They have a prefrontal cortex, which means they do not have to give in to whatever impulses they have. My wife has gone on plenty of girls' nights. I don't get weird about it because I have so much trust with my wife. And, yes, people should have rules. Yes, people should articulate very clearly what they consider acceptable and not acceptable. Yes, people should work in their relationship to make sure that the other person feels, not intellectually understands, but feels in their bones the level of commitment

• 53:51Tom Bilyeu?

  that you have to them and to the relationship, and I use that word very intentionally. And...

• 53:58Tom Bilyeu?

  I think when you put all of that together, along with, yeah, some women, they feel neglected. Some women probably don't. They're leaning more towards promiscuity and they really are going behind your back and they really are doing things that you would be mortified. Of course, there's all of that, just as there are guys that are unfaithful and they cheat and all that. What I would want for people is to understand that we have these evolutionary impulses. There is a reason we are the way that we are, but we have a prefrontal cortex for a reason. Engage that. Focus on pair bonding. Like, you were giving me a jokingly hard time that after the long weekend, I said, hey, did you deepen your romance to people that I knew were in relationships? And I really meant that. Like, I take time on long weekends

• 54:43Tom Bilyeu?

  like that to make sure that I'm investing heavily in my marriage. Nothing has reaped greater returns for me, but that stuff doesn't happen by accident. So you have to do things to make sure that you guys are pair bonding and all of that. And that will reap tremendous rewards, despite the fact that the clitoris is on the outside, despite the fact that the penis is shaped like a shovel. All of that, at the end of the day, we can overcome that. But to blind yourself to the complexities of the human experience, I think is a mistake. And while that clip is fun and funny, I don't think it is accurate across all women that could conceivably be going out on a girl's night.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Well said. Well said. Ip de facto. That's all I got.

• 55:23Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, everybody. If you're not already watching us live, make sure you do. It is Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday at 6:00 a.m. Pacific time. And here are some highlights from today's live. It's interesting to tell my own story, because I'll say, nobody thought that I would be successful. And my wife is always like, motherfucker. She was like, I have always known that you were going to do something and nobody has put their lot more with you than me. And she was like, but whenever you tell the story, it's always that nobody believed in you. And I'm like, that's actually fair. Because as I have oft repeated to my wife, I don't want to know who I would have become if I didn't meet

• 56:05Tom Bilyeu?

  her. And that one is like, when I just step back and go from...

• 56:14Tom Bilyeu?

  The trust that I have in her from knowing that if I fall, that she'll pick me up. Have you seen the, oh god, I'm gonna get emotional. Ooh.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  Let's go, emotions, emotions, emotions. What a highly emotional day. Let's go. Do it. Let's do it, do it, do it. I see it, I see it. Let it happen, let it happen, man. It's your own family.

• 56:34Tom Bilyeu?

  On the internet, Drew. Fuck.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  Man.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  This is a beautiful moment. This is a beautiful moment.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Aw, chat loves it. Thank you, chat. Thank you for showing support and showing up the hugs in the chat. This is a tough moment. It's a human, it's a human emotion. A human moment, yeah. Human moment.

• 57:21Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't think I can talk about it.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  Man.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  Man, some, some things are better left unsaid.

• 57:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Fuck.

• 57:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Um.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 57:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, take two.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  Hearts in the chat, hearts in the chat all around. Everybody got your back?

• 57:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Have you seen, uh, Michael J. Fox with his wife?

• 57:50Speaker 01

  There she is.

• 57:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Hey, baby. You're gonna make this worse.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  I was thinking to my head, I was like, maybe we need to leave the situation.

• 58:02Speaker 01

  Aw.

• 58:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Hello. Ooh, we're gonna shake that off.

• 58:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh. So.

• 58:31Speaker 05

  Hi, everyone.

• 58:32Tom Bilyeu?

  There's footage of Michael J. Fox with his wife and on the red carpet, he's shaken shit, obviously because of Parkinson's.

• 58:43Tom Bilyeu?

  She's still with him, God knows how many years later. In sickness and in health, man. And that you want to talk about what I want for everybody, that belief.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  We romanticize love and all the joys and oh, my God.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Butterflies and.

• 59:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, but it is really real when 10 years ago, my gut just fell apart. I couldn't stand up. I could barely breathe. He was ready to rush me to the hospital. Every time I would eat something. I mean, it was bad. And in those moments, how do you respond? Now, sometimes I think initially it's kind of easy. I'll show up for you. Let me do things. A year in, two years in, it's a very different picture. And he showed up for me every step. That's what real love in sickness and health actually looks like. And he never once complained. In fact, I want to say it was at least two years, but I don't want to exaggerate,

• 59:41Speaker 05

  but it feels true. For two years, he didn't eat sugar because I couldn't. Now imagine, guys, it's his birthday and I'm like, let's get you a cake because I couldn't eat anything. He's like, no, I don't want a cake on my birthday. I want to be able to eat what you can eat and we're in it together. That's what freaking true in sickness and health looks like.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm coming back. I'm sorry.

• 1:00:02Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, we gotta shake it out.

• 1:00:03Speaker 06

  I love love. So I love seeing that kind of stuff.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm into it.

• 1:00:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Eunice, you were right to love love. It is tasty.

• 1:00:10Speaker 06

  Valentine's Day is my second favorite holiday.

• 1:00:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Bird shit and potatoes. These are facts, dude.

• 1:00:17Speaker 06

  What a meal.

• 1:00:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Doesn't quite work like that, but you, uh, soil gets rapidly depleted. Plants need nitrogen. They cannot pull it out of the air. They have to pull it out of the soil and the most efficient way to get it into the soil is through dung. It doesn't go away. So it just stacks and stacks and stacks. So you get these islands that like are uninhabitable. You can't even go on them. The smell of the nitrogen is so, or the ammonia, I guess, is so strong that people can't bear to go near it. But you can hire people or back in the day, enslave them. Hey, always a good time. And you force them onto the island. You mine this stuff and there were literal wars is probably an exaggeration,

• 1:01:03Tom Bilyeu?

  but people were conquering these islands, taking them away from each other because once you had that you could ship it to other countries and allow them to grow better crops. And what they found was in terms of a complete item that's easy to grow, potatoes were like the jam. If you had potatoes and milk, you were good.

• 1:01:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Who would have guessed? So like around the world, potatoes start in like some small place. I don't remember if it's South America, but I think it was potato start in like the Andes. And then they just find their way to everywhere around the world. Because they could transport the poo and they could transport the seeds for the potatoes. And we could literally feed more people. And so suddenly nations that had been stagnant from a population standpoint for God knows how long, all of a sudden we get this huge population explosion.

• 1:01:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Poop and potatoes, man.

• 1:01:59Speaker 06

  Thank you, poo.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  Poop and potatoes.

• 1:02:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Like it's crazy.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  Unsung heroes of today.

• 1:02:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Bad earthworms. Who would have guessed? Why is the clitoris on the outside? The only answer that makes any sense is that it can be touched with a hand. And at that point, it's like, well, then who's that access for? And it soothes all the concerns and they're able to get to the other side of it. And so as a guy, the number of times where I've been like, what is that doing on the outside? Like, that is the craziest shit I've ever seen in my fucking life.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  But that makes me more worried about the other way because male pleasure zones are inside of their anus. So.

• 1:02:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Bro, have you ever touched your penis? That thing's pretty amazing and it's designed to go inside. So from a, I want to get this person pregnant standpoint.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  No, no, no, but, but I mean, like. The male, the male G-spot is inside the anus.

• 1:02:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Ah, sure.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  But, but I mean.

• 1:03:00Tom Bilyeu?

  Here's the thing, I've never found myself going, you know what would make this finally fun?

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  I'm just talking about the clitoris on the outside evolution.

• 1:03:08Tom Bilyeu?

  And.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  So then now on this side, does that mean that?

• 1:03:11Tom Bilyeu?

  I get how much context matters. I really do. But as somebody who's had a prostate exam, well, let me tell you, I wasn't like, whoa, this is fun. Context matters.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  This is what I've been missing all my life.

• 1:03:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I wasn't like, well, I've got a new context I'd like to introduce this to. Uh, so yeah, I'm gonna say that.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  If we're gonna talk about where the pleasure zones are.

• 1:03:35Tom Bilyeu?

  But the head of the penis, pretty pleisheryzony. So that one doesn't seem weird to me, but yeah. I don't, I don't get it. That, well, so I have a hypothesis, but if it isn't that, then I'm like, what's happening?

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  I am not telling people to go outside the booty hole, Brian Johnson.

• 1:03:54Tom Bilyeu?

  He's just saying it would be better if you did.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  I'm not saying that either. He was just, he was just outlawing.

• 1:04:00Tom Bilyeu?

  I hope you.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  Where the pleasure zones are.

• 1:04:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Are duct taped closed if they're anywhere near.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  I'm just telling you where the male. All right.

• 1:04:07Speaker 06

  The chat.

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