Pod Insights Hot History What Navy will Lord Corlys lead? 🐉 About this episode Hi Guys! Today I'm joined by the wonderful Steve Toussaint aka Lord Corlys Velaryon in House of the Dragon! From Daenerys to Princess Diana, I want to know if the Sea Snake himself will bend the knee or fend off thee to these couple of leaders! Listen now and make sure to watch House of the Dragon Season 3 on HBO Max.
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0:29 Speaker 01 Speaking of people who may not be operating on the seven seas, but there could be an incident that comes up.
0:35 Speaker 02 Okay.
0:35 Speaker 01 Scooby-doo in the mist. What do we think?
0:50 Speaker 01 Hi guys, welcome back to Hot History. I'm Ainslie Harvey and I am thrilled today for a very special game. We are doing a round of Bend the Knee or Fend Off Thee. And my guest, let me tell you, he is Lord of the Tides. He is Master of Driftmark. He is Head of House Valarion, or at least in season three of House of the Dragon, Steve Dusson.
1:13 Speaker 02 Hello!
1:13 Speaker 01 Steve, thank you so much for joining me. I am thrilled today.
1:16 Speaker 02 Oh, thank you. My pleasure.
1:18 Speaker 01 So, I'm a big history lover.
1:20 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:20 Speaker 01 Steve, my community, also big history lovers. If there's one thing we know, it is that the strength of an empire, of a nation, of a ruler, of a dynasty, often comes down to the power of their navy.
1:33 Speaker 02 Ah.
1:33 Speaker 01 So I want to know from the sea snake himself, would you bend the knee or fend off thee to these couple of people?
1:43 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:43 Speaker 01 Are you ready?
1:44 Speaker 02 Let's go.
1:48 Speaker 01 First off the rake.
1:50 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:51 Speaker 01 Says Diana.
1:52 Speaker 02 You would bend the knee.
1:54 Speaker 01 Instantly, right?
1:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, absolutely. Because I don't go by a rulebook.
1:58 Speaker 01 Because I lead from the heart, not the head. I would do anything for Pretty Die.
2:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:02 Speaker 01 Done.
2:03 Speaker 02 Cool.
2:04 Speaker 01 What about keeping in the Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon world?
2:09 Speaker 02 Okay.
2:10 Speaker 01 Khaleesi, Daenerys, what are we thinking?
2:13 Speaker 00 My reign has just begun.
2:16 Speaker 02 Oh, now I'm trying to think of her trajectory, her, her story.
2:18 Speaker 01 I know, it's a bit.
2:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:20 Speaker 01 Towards the end.
2:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, towards the end, but I think I probably would bend. So it's me or Corlys?
2:24 Speaker 01 It's, it's Corlys.
2:25 Speaker 02 Corlys. Oh, I think Corlys would bend the knee.
2:28 Speaker 01 I agree.
2:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, definitely.
2:29 Speaker 01 He's got to keep it, you know?
2:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, and she's, she, she does have a rightful claim to the throne. Yes, I think.
2:35 Speaker 01 And early seasons.
2:37 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
2:37 Speaker 01 Right?
2:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:38 Speaker 01 You know?
2:38 Speaker 02 Clearly.
2:39 Speaker 01 Excuse his knee.
2:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
2:41 Speaker 01 Next, someone else who is, um, controversial, contentious, perhaps a little bit, a little bit of a tricky one here. Um, Levon. What do we think? Bend the knee, fend off thee?
2:54 Speaker 02 So I have to confess that the whole Harry Potter thing has kind of gone over my head.
2:57 Speaker 01 Okay.
2:57 Speaker 02 So I've only seen maybe two of the movies, but I don't think that that's a good person.
3:01 Speaker 01 I don't think so.
3:02 Speaker 03 Well, Neville, I'm sure we can find a place for you in our rank.
3:06 Speaker 02 So I think it would be fend off thee, was that the thing?
3:09 Speaker 01 Fend off thee.
3:10 Speaker 02 Fend off thee.
3:10 Speaker 01 Also, I'm not sure wizards are operating on the seven seas.
3:14 Speaker 02 No.
3:15 Speaker 01 You know? So I think they've kind of.
3:16 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly.
3:17 Speaker 01 Got it covered.
3:17 Speaker 02 They'd be bad luck.
3:19 Speaker 01 Speaking of people who may not be operating on the seven seas, but there could be an incident that comes up.
3:24 Speaker 02 Okay.
3:24 Speaker 01 Scooby Doo and the mystery gang. What do we think?
3:27 Speaker 02 Scooby snacks.
3:29 Speaker 01 If there's some kind of like sea creature, maritime ghost, are we bending the knee or fending off thee?
3:35 Speaker 02 I'm gonna bend the knee.
3:36 Speaker 01 Yep.
3:37 Speaker 02 Because I love those guys and I love how it always ended them going with the, the criminal going, I'd have got away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids.
3:43 Speaker 03 I might have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these blasted kids and their dogs.
3:47 Speaker 01 Obsessed.
3:48 Speaker 02 Yes, yes.
3:49 Speaker 01 Also, like Scooby snacks all day.
3:50 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
3:51 Speaker 01 They have the catering, like we'd be covered, you know?
3:54 Speaker 02 And we know that, uh, Shaggy, you know, he likes to, clearly.
3:58 Speaker 01 True, true, true. Everyone would be having a good time.
4:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:00 Speaker 01 Okay, next off the rank, um, another kind of contentious one.
4:05 Speaker 02 Okay.
4:06 Speaker 01 Again, perhaps maybe not a navy, but certainly some kind of large yacht.
4:12 Speaker 02 Okay.
4:12 Speaker 01 Logan Roy.
4:13 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
4:14 Speaker 01 What are we thinking? Where are we sitting?
4:16 Speaker 03 Oh, fuck off.
4:17 Speaker 02 This is interesting because I like Logan.
4:20 Speaker 01 Me too.
4:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, but I don't know that he and Corlys are gonna work.
4:25 Speaker 01 I don't think, no, that's true.
4:27 Speaker 02 So.
4:27 Speaker 01 Not compatible.
4:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, so Corlys is fend off thee.
4:29 Speaker 01 No, yeah.
4:30 Speaker 02 But I like him.
4:31 Speaker 03 You're not serious people.
4:32 Speaker 01 Yes.
4:33 Speaker 02 Love it.
4:33 Speaker 01 Die.
4:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:34 Speaker 03 But you are not.
4:39 Speaker 03 Serious people.
4:41 Speaker 01 Okay, next. We have Tanya from The White Lotus. Have you seen The White Lotus?
4:48 Speaker 02 Oh, Tanya, yes, yes. The gays are trying to kill me. These gays, they're trying to murder me.
4:54 Speaker 01 I was thinking, are you gonna save Tanya from the gays on the boat?
4:58 Speaker 02 No.
4:58 Speaker 01 With you, with, no.
4:59 Speaker 02 No.
5:00 Speaker 01 To be fair, peak drama.
5:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, and also the thing about her, she's fun to watch, but I remember she kept toying with an employee. There was a.
5:08 Speaker 01 It's true.
5:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, she was, and so it was like that thing of like, oh, I'm gonna help you, and then she didn't, or it was like, it wasn't, no, no, she can die.
5:15 Speaker 01 That's true, although, speaking of toying with employees.
5:18 Speaker 02 Ah, okay.
5:20 Speaker 01 Could be a little bit of Lord Corlys.
5:24 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
5:24 Speaker 01 Toying with his employees.
5:26 Speaker 02 Okay.
5:27 Speaker 01 So there could be some alignment there, you never know.
5:29 Speaker 02 Maybe, yeah.
5:30 Speaker 01 Maybe. He's gonna rise above, though.
5:31 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly.
5:32 Speaker 01 Yep. Okay, and the last one.
5:35 Speaker 02 Okay.
5:36 Speaker 01 Cleopatra. Would we bend the knee or fend off thee? Context here?
5:43 Speaker 02 Yes.
5:44 Speaker 01 She lost the war in a naval battle, so she could use the help here.
5:48 Speaker 02 She could, and she was, I mean, despite that, that picture, she was meant to be very beautiful.
5:54 Speaker 01 Yes.
5:54 Speaker 02 Um, a woman ruling in a, in a, um, all male.
5:59 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
5:59 Speaker 02 I think we'd bend the knee.
6:00 Speaker 01 I think you have to.
6:01 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:02 Speaker 01 Right?
6:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:03 Speaker 01 It'd change history.
6:04 Speaker 02 Exactly.
6:05 Speaker 01 You know, Roman Empire may not have even happened.
6:07 Speaker 02 There you go.
6:08 Speaker 01 So I think she's the big one.
6:09 Speaker 02 She is. Yeah, well done.
6:11 Speaker 01 Done.
6:11 Speaker 02 Well done.
6:11 Speaker 01 I love it. Lord Corlys is on the right side of history. He's there for Princess Diana.
6:16 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
6:16 Speaker 01 He's there for Cleopatra. He's a part of the mystery gang.
6:19 Speaker 02 Exactly, and he, yeah, he understands the power of a woman.
6:22 Speaker 01 A hundred percent. So that is it for me today.
6:25 Speaker 02 Okay, thank you so much.
6:26 Speaker 01 Bend the knee, fend off thee, with Steve Toussaint, everybody. Make sure to catch season three of House of the Dragon on HBO.
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