Catching Up With The Brothers

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  Kevin's, you know what I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

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  Yeah, straight out the dome.

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  And he usually does it before show.

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  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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• 2:45Speaker 01

  Jonas.

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  Good afternoon, boys. How we feeling?

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  Feeling great, feeling, um, optimistic.

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  I'm sorry, reading a text from Nick. It said, can we do Wagamamas for post-show food, please?

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  Yeah.

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  I love Wagamamas.

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  What's Wagamamas?

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  Well, that's one of the reasons I'm feeling optimistic is because I started thinking about the soba noodle bowl, which I haven't had in a very long time.

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  Sounds like an ad.

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  Teriyaki. There's also the udon bowl, which is phenomenal. Kevin, your life's about to change. Shout out Wagamamas. This episode is not brought to you by Wagamamas, but it could be, for a price. But I'm feeling optimistic because the Giants played today.

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  The New York Giants did what they always should do, and they didn't lose.

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  They didn't lose.

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  They didn't lose.

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  We didn't win, but we'll take a, we'll take a tie.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  Yeah.

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  Listen, a push is as good as a win.

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  That's right.

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  At the casino and at football.

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  A push is a win.

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  Um, speaking of sports, we're in Washington DC this week, performing at the Savannah Bananas Banana Bowl.

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  It was exceptional.

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  Oh, my God! And you know, for those of you who are unaware of what a Savannah banana is...

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  Who have been living under a rock.

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  Yeah. Uh, how would you describe this? If an alien's landed today and they said, alright, show me the most interesting thing human beings do.

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  I would say...

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  That would be one of them.

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  There's this game that we played for over 100 years called baseball.

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  Okay.

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  But somebody woke up with the genius idea to turn baseball into a spectacle. More music, please. His name's Jesse Cole. And this all begins about 11 years ago, when he stumbles into a shop and finds a yellow suit. I'm making this part up, but this could be the story. He then decides, what if I put a bunch of baseball players in fun outfits? And change the rules a bit to allow for trick plays to count as points.

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  Only at the end of the game, whoever has the most trick plays gets a point.

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  It's so confusing.

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  And, just to make it even more exciting...

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  They're attractive.

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  They're attractive. And they...

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  Some have abs.

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  Some have abs.

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  And they dance.

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  Nine of the 10 players have abs.

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  So, all jokes aside, the Savannah Bananas and the whole Banana League has absolutely blown up in the last couple of years. I think social media had a big part of that.

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  I played a kickball game at the Savannah Bananas Stadium back in, about, well, six years ago. And we played a kickball game for a wrap party for a movie. And I remember meeting him.

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  Jesse Cole.

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  J. Cole, as I like to say. He was wearing a yellow suit, and he was like, you guys gotta come to the game. I was like, I've heard about it, it sounds pretty interesting. And then blink, six years later, and it's sold-out stadium.

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  Stadium's everywhere. So apparently, the waitlist to get access to the lottery, to get tickets, is four to five million people. It's insane. So we performed at the, the end-of-the-game performance, which they do at every Banana Bowl.

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  Yeah.

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  And it's between the top of the ninth and the bottom of the ninth. And it was really incredible.

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  I loved it.

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  I had such a good time.

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  It was such a fun show.

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  Watching the fans of Savannah Bananas interact, not only with, you know, the players in the field, they call them cast members, but also with each other. It was like a really kind and warm environment.

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  Which makes you speculate if they knew who was going to win.

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  I think they really play, because you can definitely see.

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  Somebody said, did you enjoy the, the show today? And I was like, it was a show.

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  The whole thing's a show.

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  I thought you guys were playing baseball.

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  They also may have been asking you if you enjoyed the show that you performed.

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  That is true.

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  My girls absolutely loved it. Aline and Valentina, they flew in with Danielle, my wife, and they had a ball. And they got to meet John Cena. I've never, Valentina cried when John Cena came out of the Humvee, like, as a surprise. She literally, she was like so excited.

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  That's what it's about.

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  He's a powerful presence, John Cena.

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  He's a powerful president.

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  Well, in...

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  Heads of state.

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  Heads of state.

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  He is. He's a film president.

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  He's such a kind man. The way he speaks to everyone, and the way he like interact, like he like, he...

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  Locks in.

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  He locks in.

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  He's a great guy.

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  I got really nervous when I met him. My, my words were fumbled.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  Valentina said, his hands were as huge as my head.

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  He does have large hands.

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  That's how she said it, too.

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  Before we went to DC for the very fun performance of the Savannah Bananas, um, we were in Atlanta about to head down to Birmingham, Alabama.

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  Yep.

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  For our show. Uh, which, you know, our team was tracking the weather alongside many, many other team members across Live Nation, our, our, our tour sponsor, and the venue itself, the local authorities. And obviously, we were all tracking the news. And, and just as a kind of baseline thing, for us, it is the most important thing that our, our band, our crew, uh, the folks who are working at the venue, uh, and of course, our fans are safe. That is the, the bottom line, most important, top priority. And as they were tracking everything, and, and we were getting hourly updates, and forced with a really tough decision to either keep the show on or not, based on what Hurricane

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  Isaias was doing, um, at a certain point after these conversations, we made the very tough call to postpone the show.

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  Yeah.

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  Which is never an easy thing to do. We know that people have come, and they've spent their money on hotel rooms, on flights, parking, you know, there's lots of factors. We know it's tough. And it also bears a financial consequence for us as well, which we have to navigate and figure out. But, um, at the end of the day, what is most important is that people are safe.

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  Rule number one.

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  Yeah. And so, we made the decision to change the date, but we have a new date. And so now, people are aware that November 6th now, our new show.

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  Yeah.

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  November 6th.

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  We're going back. Because I know there was speculation of like, oh, they're just gonna cancel and not come back. It's like, we're coming back. So if you can make it, please be there. We'd love to see you guys again and we'll put on a good old show.

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  It'll be super fun.

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  But we'd rather, rather safe than sorry.

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  Yeah, absolutely. And also, what I think you said something best, Nick, you said, we don't know what we don't know. And it's like, it could be not that bad.

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  It could have been, well, what I'm saying is it could have been really serious.

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  Yeah.

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  And people could have been stranded at the venue as the weather comes in and then it's a major issue.

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  Well, people are also driving like two hours from home south.

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  Totally.

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  You look up and it's, it's okay. It's, it's just mild winds and a storm and you have to navigate that. But the reality is you don't know what you don't know and you never regret making the safe choice.

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  I think that was the whole point of us having those conversations.

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  Yeah. And so instead we diverted from Atlanta to DC. And we safely got our crew and our, our band and got the messaging out there beforehand to, to go and, and be there for the next day for the, the bananas performance.

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  Yeah.

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  We'll say it was interesting. I saw one or two comments. People were like, oh, they canceled the show or postponed it because they were performing at the Banana Bowl. And I never do this. I was very tempted to respond, uh, different day.

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  And also, do you know about planes? Cause that's how you get from one place to the other.

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  Yeah. The plan was to always go to DC to do Savannah.

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  It wasn't changed because of the Banana Bowl. Um, we wouldn't ever do that. Uh, but I, I'm glad I didn't respond. Uh, and this podcast has become a great place to.

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  Air it out.

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  Acknowledge that we're chronically online, people.

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  Yeah, we see it. So what else is going on? What else you guys into these days?

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  I'm getting into, um,

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  lots of things on this tour. I'm sending my bowling balls out. I have two bowling balls and shoes.

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  Two as in like a, a first.

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  A set, a set.

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  A first ball. Do you have a strike ball? You have, you have, you have a spare ball.

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  It's shipped. This is the busiest thing I've done this week. I'm having my bowling ball shipped.

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  Nick looked at me and said, I just shipped my bowling balls to your house. Yesterday I was like sick.

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  So I'm flying home tomorrow for the day off. I'm bringing my bowling balls back with me then?

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  Yeah.

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  Okay.

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  Because we're in some of these cities and as the weather's changing while we're on tour, golf is not really an option.

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  Yeah, a nice little group activity is probably a good idea.

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  If I'm going to be stuck inside because it's, the weather's not great, I'm going to go bowling.

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  Yeah, man.

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  Light it up.

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  Facts. God, I love bowling so much. I was on the varsity bowling team in high school.

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  Nerd alert.

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  Hey.

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  I don't have a nerd button.

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  I had, whoa, I had a yellow polo that was a bowling shirt.

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  Not helping yourself here.

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  We were the Eagles. It was great.

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  The other thing that we did, we were in Miami for about a week, um, for a couple of days off and the tour show there, Priyanka and multi Marie came out. Um, we had a great time hanging out at Joe's house a bunch.

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  You looked like you guys had a ball.

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  It was so fun.

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  I had a bowling ball.

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  Miami is just, it's.

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  It's incredible.

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  It's having a moment.

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  And one of my dogs are now here, back.

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  Yeah, your dog's back.

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  Yeah. So people were saying, did he get a new dog? That is my dog, Penelope. I'm getting all three dogs back. But now I had to navigate some things.

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  Some things.

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  Some life stuff.

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  Some life stuff.

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  You know, my three dogs have been living with a amazing trainer for the last like three years. And I've been able to visit them, but now I finally get to have them back. But there's allergies that I need to be sensitive to. So I'm.

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  Yeah, they'll, they'll be with you until they're not.

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  And they're not.

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  Someone who loves and cares about them and feeding them.

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  And when I have the time where I, there's no allergies to be aware of.

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  Navigated.

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  Navigated. Thank you. Then they'll be with me.

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  Yeah.

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  But it's kind of like she's, Penelope's become a tour dog already.

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  Yeah, she was in the dressing room at Miami and she was like perfect.

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  Thrilled to be back at home.

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  She is. And it's so fun to have her around.

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  It was laid out. It was awesome.

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  She's, she's a vibe. Um, the other thing that happened this week was just really exciting is the podcast got its very first nomination.

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  That's right.

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  Kids Choice Awards 2026.

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  That's right.

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  We received three nominations, I believe.

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  We have three nominations.

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  For the best group, for the Christmas movie, for the Christmas movie and for the best podcast of all time. Of all time. Uh, of those three, I would be happiest if we won the podcast award.

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  Yeah, is it campaigned for the podcast award?

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  Yeah, of course it's fan voted.

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  It's Kids Choice Awards.

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  It's their choice.

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  It's Kids voted.

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  Kids voted.

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  Okay.

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  Alex Warren is hosting the evening. He's going to be on the pod actually very soon.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  I could maybe give him some to make sure that we get that award.

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  You're going to bribe some Alex Warren vibes?

• 12:57Speaker 01

  I'm going to bribe Alex for this award.

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  On the 14th, we're, if, if I'm not mistaken, we're in San Antonio, Texas. So we won't be able to attend in person, but perhaps we can shoot a little video and you can convince Mr. Alex Warren.

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  I can get him to help us out there.

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  Help us out.

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  If there's a guy.

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  You and DNC got slimed one year at the KCAs. Did you enjoy the feeling of the slime?

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  I think it tastes delicious.

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  We got slimed together with The Rock.

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  Yeah. I got slimed a few times when I hosted the show back in 2015.

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  Tastes good.

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  It got shot into my ear when I was doing one of the promos and it was really not chill.

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  It's green, green.

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  It really is heavy though.

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  It's like pudding. It's supposed to taste good. The whole idea was right. It was like, it's supposed to taste good because it's terrible.

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  It's oatmeal and green food dye and it's like, it's not, it's, it's fun. I mean, it's fun, but it's.

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  It's fun.

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  Multi Marie just discovered sliming and she, she wants to be involved. I said, a few more years.

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  Just glad that it's still a thing. We didn't host, you hosted.

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  Yeah.

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  And then they, I think they ushered us to showers after this, but we decided not to take the showers.

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  We decided to go to dinner and our slime.

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  Yeah.

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  Straight to Craig's. Shout out Craig's.

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  Shout out Craig's.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  Speaking of Dwayne The Rock Johnson, I just, um, I just found out the date for the, the world premiere of Jumanji three.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  You did? Nice.

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  Yeah. The premiere is on December 16th and we don't happen to have a show that night. So I'll be able to attend.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  That's awesome.

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  You guys should come too.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  If I'm there, I'm there.

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  Okay.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  Well, we gotta have the cast on Hey Jonas podcast.

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  I know. We gotta do it.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cast, cast pod.

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  Cast pod.

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  Cast pod, the whole path.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  The whole pass pod?

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  The whole pass and pod.

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  Kevin for sure will, will be down and, and Mr. Jack Black. We just gotta track down the others. They'll be busy promoting the movie, you know?

• 14:47Speaker 02

  I, cause this movie, you guys, last time you guys did a promotional tour, didn't you guys go to like five countries?

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  At least, yeah. It was nuts. And what was funny is when I went in for my fitting, they had the original costume, which it's been 10 years since the last movie.

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  No way.

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  And it, it fit like a glove. I was so happy.

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  That's a good feeling.

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  Probably the greatest feeling.

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  Yeah. It was, it was special. Um, anyway, go see Jumanji when it comes out in theaters.

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  Totally.

• 15:13Speaker 00

  In a couple of months.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Actually, speaking of the Savannah Bananas, I, I did have a pretty intense moment during the performance during Savannah Bananas last night though.

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  Oh yeah, you.

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  I, I was totally in the mode and I had intrusive thought and I grabbed the waffle that was part of the decoration during Waffle House. Yeah, exactly. That one. And I bit it. Turns out it was a stack of three waffles deep and probably bread that had been sitting out all day. I legit thought I was going to choke on national television and die. Like I was like, it's not going down. I have no water.

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  Noticed you were gone until at least three songs later as I was focused on, cause during, I'm glad you're alive.

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  Thank you.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  During the sound check, I walked through, I walked through stilts, which is one of the baseball players who was, he's on stilts naturally. And I bumped into him and almost took him out. And then the whole, I was just, my anxiety was like, oh man, like you're going to take this guy out on live TV.

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  But you know what you did do?

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  Missed the fact that you were in need of help.

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  Think though, and I don't want stilts to get injured ever. Obviously that's the statement.

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  Safety first, just like the show.

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  I mean, if, if you're a person who, who does stilts performances.

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  And people are walking through your legs.

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  You've fallen a few times, right?

• 16:21Speaker 01

  Definitely.

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  I think you've fallen now that I think the goal is to still not fall though.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course. Like, it's like anything in life. The goal is to not fall, but you're going to fall.

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  I agree. How do you get off?

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  I think you have to, uh,

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  Lean against a wall?

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  Get on a ladder and go like, you know what I mean? Like.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Oh, right. Cause he wears long pants to cover the thing that you have to untie. So I'm like.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  There must be some Velcro.

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  I think you can like jump down.

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  Remember the Velcro pants that were like all the craze in 2000, 2001 with the.

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  Janko?

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  Or like the, the zip.

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  Yeah.

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  And suddenly you're in shorts.

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  Oh.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  That was sick.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  That, that was, that was something else. Remember when Old Navy had those, like the swishy version? Yeah.

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  This episode brought to you by.

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  And then Joe, you did do something that they didn't catch on camera, which I was pretty disappointed about.

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  I know.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  Well, when we got to the party animals moment.

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  That's a team.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a their team. And they had a beer pong set up and I sunk my shot.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  First shot.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  For singing. You did that in rehearsal twice as well.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  In a row.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  In a row.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  When there's no alcohol to be drunk and I guess I'm better at it.

• 17:22Speaker 00

  That's probably true for life in general. Yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Facts.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Maybe you should join one of those like the Ocho, like beer pong leagues.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Maybe. Put me in.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  But I, they missed it on camera, but you guys saw it. So.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  We saw it.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  You know who else saw it?

• 17:36Speaker 00

  The party animals.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  The party animals.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Party animals and they will, they know.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  They know.

• 17:39Speaker 01

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• 17:41Speaker 02

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• 17:44Speaker 00

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• 17:46Speaker 02

  I was thinking more like a horror movie subscription, but sure.

• 17:49Speaker 00

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• 17:51Speaker 01

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• 17:58Speaker 00

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• 18:00Speaker 01

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• 18:01Speaker 02

  Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  Hey Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 18:07Speaker 00

  All right. Who started drinking almond breeze almond milk first?

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  I think it was.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 18:16Speaker 00

  Changed the game for me.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  It was great.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  All right. Who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 18:21Speaker 01

  That's Kevin.

• 18:22Speaker 00

  Kevin, of course.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  That's someone else's job.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Take it, Kev.

• 18:25Speaker 00

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 18:28Speaker 01

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 18:30Speaker 00

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

• 18:37Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Ooh. Um, Kevin's, you know what? So I found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, straight off the dome.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  And he usually does it before show.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  He needs it on stage.

• 18:50Speaker 00

  Okay. Last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  It is great.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  It's simply because it's really good.

• 18:57Speaker 00

  True. Try almond breeze. Trust us. It's really good.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Plans get crazy this time of year. Holiday shopping, family parties, seasonal activities. It never ends. All fun things, but everyone is running around like crazy.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  And you know what else is running? Your nose. It sure doesn't stop in this colder weather and that is no fun.

• 19:14Speaker 00

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• 19:23Speaker 02

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• 19:29Speaker 01

  With Kleenex Snap and Go, there's always a clean tissue with. Then reach to make it through all your plans.

• 19:34Speaker 00

  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  I think it's time we do something fun and we go back and we play.

• 19:39Speaker 00

  Clip it.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Clip it.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Well, let's find out.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  Come with us.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  Clip it.

• 19:44Speaker 00

  Clip it, Ken.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Clip it.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  Clip it.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Clip it.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  Clip it.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Clip it.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Clip it.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  On that note.

• 19:51Speaker 02

  Clip it.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  Really big fan of our new, uh, clip it audio.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  Clip it.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Clip it.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:57Speaker 05

  All right, here we go. Uh, would you rather be sticky or itchy?

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Oh, God. Speaking of slime. Would you rather be sticky or itchy?

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Um, sticky or itchy?

• 20:10Speaker 00

  What are you itchy from?

• 20:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, what are you sticky from?

• 20:15Speaker 00

  Less concerned.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  I think I would prefer to be itchy.

• 20:18Speaker 00

  Really? Oh, God.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  I think neither is good, but sticky is better.

• 20:22Speaker 00

  There's nothing worse than when you don't put your, your bug spray on around your ankles and overnight and you're just.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  That's in the middle, while you're sleeping, you got the, you're itching.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  You got the itch. Ah, you guys are right. You actually sold me. I'm going back to sticky.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  I'm going sticky.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  You know, it's sticky, like you can manage.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  Fix that faster.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:45Speaker 00

  Okay, sticky it is.

• 20:46Speaker 05

  All right, does Lightning McQueen have car insurance or life insurance?

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go with they're one in the same in the Cars universe.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  They have a Disney Fastpass.

• 20:59Speaker 00

  What kind of coverage does that give you?

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Speed.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  It gives you.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Speed and dental.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  And dental.

• 21:05Speaker 00

  I think.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  They do have good teeth.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Ding.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  Here's a hot take. In a world where cars are.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Alive.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  Alive. Car insurance would be.

• 21:16Speaker 00

  Life insurance?

• 21:16Speaker 01

  Life insurance.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying. I think they're one in the same.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Hmm, yeah.

• 21:19Speaker 05

  Would you rather have 500K now or flip a coin for $1 million?

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 21:24Speaker 00

  This feels like a question that maybe, um, you know, people will get frustrated for our answer.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Then we answer, so we're gonna do, we're gonna do flip the coin.

• 21:31Speaker 00

  But I think we gotta do it.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  We're gonna flip the coin. Here's you go. Wait, hold on. Who's got a coin?

• 21:36Speaker 01

  All right.

• 21:36Speaker 00

  Are you gonna give me?

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Who's got a coin? Let's see if you actually got the million dollars.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  Hey Siri, flip a coin.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Say heads or tails?

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Heads.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  Hey Siri, flip a coin.

• 21:47Speaker 01

  Tails. Now I switched it because he flipped it twice.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Hand it over, Kevin.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Nick asked.

• 21:55Speaker 00

  He takes Venmo, Zelle, PayPal, um, Apple Cash.

• 22:01Speaker 05

  You can erase one thing from your existence. Traffic, mosquitoes, Mondays, or alarm clocks.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  Yo, mosquitoes.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  I don't know, we probably need those, right?

• 22:10Speaker 00

  They carry disease and they make you itch.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  And they suck blood.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  Can we get a, I actually would like to know this.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  What are, what's the good about them?

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, what's the good thing about mosquitoes that we're not aware of? Cause there has to be one.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  I, I, I don't think there is.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  There's gotta be. They've been around too long, bro.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Just like in Lilo and Stitch, this entire planet is probably just there. They literally make the joke about mosquitoes in Lilo and Stitch, the cartoon, the original one.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Don't they say it's a, oh, this mosquito planet?

• 22:38Speaker 02

  You can't touch anybody. Uh, you can't do anything. They just wanna evaporate, like destroy the entire planet, but that's the mosquito habitat.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Comes back to Lilo and Stitch.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  It actually does.

• 22:46Speaker 05

  So they help out with plant pollination?

• 22:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, Kevin.

• 22:48Speaker 05

  They're a food source for wildlife as well.

• 22:50Speaker 00

  Okay, Kevin's against big mosquito.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  I am.

• 22:53Speaker 00

  Take down big mosquito.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Well, I'm not eating them.

• 22:56Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  Eating mosquito, what?

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Well, he says they're a source of food.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Does anybody eat them? Humans?

• 23:01Speaker 05

  Humans don't, but other creatures and ecosystems.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Sure that humans don't?

• 23:05Speaker 05

  We're not sure about that.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  Can we ask the overlords what would happen if mosquitoes were no longer here?

• 23:10Speaker 00

  That's what Kevin refers to them as because he's all in on AI. He's all about big AI.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Overlords. Is that what we call it? What does that mean?

• 23:17Speaker 02

  That's what I, that's my new joke going for a couple of days. See how it lands.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Overlords.

• 23:21Speaker 05

  If all 3,500 species of mosquitoes went extinct, the impact would span global health, food webs and water systems. It'd be a decline in pollination, most importantly.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, so we'd be cooked is what you're saying. So mosquitoes are fine. They're staying in.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  They can stay around.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  I would personally like to get rid of traffic.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  I agree. Traffic, I think it's 2026. We gotta, we could figure this out.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  If cars are gonna drive themselves everywhere soon, will they figure that out by then?

• 23:47Speaker 02

  Yes, because then everybody can go, it's like the movie with, um.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Lilo and Stitch.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, Lilo and Stitch.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  It's like the movie Cars, actually.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  It's actually, yes.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  But Lilo's driving the car.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  After becoming Disney legends, we just have to talk about Disney movies the whole time.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  My whole thing is if every car is autonomous, that means we can go 10 to 100 times faster.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can't, you can't know, predict when people are gonna drive still.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  But then everything, no, no, if every car is autonomous.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  There would be no traffic and there would be no speed limits.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  We wouldn't know if there's.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  We don't know that.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  No, think about it. If every car knew exactly what every other car was doing.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  You can't predict when people are going to be like, I could be like right now, be like, oh, I'm gonna get in the car and go. And then it's like 40,000 people just decided to leave the same time.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  And it folds you into the, the algorithm.

• 24:33Speaker 00

  You said that like it was just true and it's just not.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  I think it is true.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  I'd like to, I'd like to, we'll, we'll, we'll come back to this.

• 24:41Speaker 05

  Uh, would you rather live in space or under the sea?

• 24:44Speaker 02

  Yo, they're one in the same.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  I mean, we famously sing about how we're all gonna be living under the sea.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  Under the sea.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  In the year 3000, so it's gotta be that.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  I'm not going up there.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  We're not meant to go up there, guys.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  And no one has proven that we've gone up there.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Prove that we've gone up there.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  Which of you three Jonas Brothers would survive a zombie apocalypse?

• 25:05Speaker 00

  Had a dream about this last night. Cause the clip of Jon Bernthal from Walking Dead, like the moment where he starts the, the war or whatever.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, no.

• 25:14Speaker 00

  That one? No, where he just walks up and you've seen it? It's a crazy clip. Anyway, Jon Bernthal.

• 25:19Speaker 02

  I don't think I've seen that.

• 25:20Speaker 00

  It's one of my, he's one of my favorite actors.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  He's great. Um, we'd love to have him on the pod.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  So my dream was about a zombie apocalypse and I had, in this dream, I was given a mandate that I had five hours to get my affairs in order to get all my stuff and get in the car and go to a safe place.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 25:37Speaker 00

  Wow. And it was actually really interesting because I, I sort of like did it in my dream of like, what would be the more important things to grab?

• 25:44Speaker 02

  You had like a visceral dream. So like you were in control?

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, totally. I was like thinking through.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  I've always wanted one of those.

• 25:50Speaker 00

  There was, there was rules. Let me just walk through. I had three bags, one for me, one for Priyanka, one for Martin Marie that I had, I had to fill. And they were the size of like a large duffel bag, like a hockey duffel bag.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  It's go bags.

• 26:00Speaker 00

  It was interesting. You should think about that. What would you grab from your house if you had five hours? This is to survive, not just that your belongings, like you're gonna need bread, for instance.

• 26:09Speaker 01

  I'm wearing my currency Pokemon cards.

• 26:11Speaker 00

  I'd, uh. I did think about that.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Cause I'm thinking they can fit in a bag and they'd be worth something even more at the.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, kindling in the fire.

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Future relic, you know?

• 26:19Speaker 00

  When money is no longer a thing.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, be like, yo, you wanna Charizard, bro?

• 26:23Speaker 00

  Then it's gonna be about collectibles. What do you have that I want?

• 26:25Speaker 02

  It's gonna be about medicine.

• 26:27Speaker 00

  That's a, to somebody that's a collectible.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  That, I will, Kevin will bring a bunch of mosquitoes with him. And his autonomous car.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  All right, so I'm gonna go with, uh, um, I mean, I would because I've had this dream.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  You haven't had the dream yet.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  I think I have, I have thought about it a lot.

• 26:47Speaker 00

  What if you had the dream?

• 26:47Speaker 01

  Cause I have to think about getting to my kids.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  You said that the first thing you'd do is you'd bring your Pokemon cards.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  I, he asked what I would grab. I, he didn't give me time to say the, the rest. I'd, yeah, the rest, I get, I get all my other cool stuff.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  I would also grab water.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Bart. I'd also grab my passport.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  You won't need your passport.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  I need to get, I need to go get my kids. So, yeah.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, okay.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  But this plane, you're, you're, at this point, you're gonna commandeer a plane and go to London.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  I will figure that out, but I'm gonna, just in case planes are still an option.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  I'm, or at this point.

• 27:25Speaker 00

  Commandeer your plane.

• 27:27Speaker 01

  Watch too many movies.

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, we do.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  Kevin's like World War Z. Okay.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  It's coming back.

• 27:32Speaker 05

  We're doing one more and it is, which type of bread do you think you could throw further? A baguette or a naan bread?

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Oh, definitely baguette.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  I could throw naan like a frisbee.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Ooh, actually, you know what, Joe? You might be right.

• 27:44Speaker 00

  I could throw back a shit ton of naan bread, but I don't think that's what you're asking.

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Whip naan bread so far, you guys would be like, that, bro.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  I think it's, it's not very, it's gonna rip apart. I think the baguette can go farther.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  I'm gonna, no, my naan bread.

• 27:56Speaker 00

  I'm gonna like, uh, what is that? Frisbee, uh, naan bread.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  That's what I'm doing.

• 28:00Speaker 05

  So we got two naans and a baguette.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Let's go see.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Two naans and a baguette walk into a bar.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Well, let's find out. Come with us. No one was harmed and will still eat the bread.

• 28:10Speaker 00

  We will not eat all the bread, but the bread, the bread will be eaten by everyone in our crew. And no, this will not be, um, yeah, one of those things you can cancel us for.

• 28:20Speaker 00

  Keep trying. So I'm still gonna eat this soon enough.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Okay, so.

• 28:24Speaker 00

  Five second rule.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, five second rule. Uh, it's better, it's better.

• 28:26Speaker 05

  It's in effect. The five second rule is in effect.

• 28:29Speaker 00

  It's about a 10 second rule here. You go one at a time. Kevin, why don't you start your big baguette?

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Ew.

• 28:35Speaker 00

  Ready? You're gonna throw, did you stretch? I don't want you to pull an arm.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Okay, okay. Nick, help me apart.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  That's what I said. I said it was gonna break apart.

• 28:48Speaker 00

  Bet you chose wrong.

• 28:51Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  Here we go. Why don't you stay down there so you can pick up my bread?

• 29:00Speaker 01

  You guys ready? Who's singing right now?

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Bailey.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Nice. Good question. Ready?

• 29:07Speaker 01

  I win!

• 29:07Speaker 02

  Baguette.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Kevin was right. Alright.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  You know? More shaped like a football, you know?

• 29:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, Joe, what do you think about, what did you think about how that bread went down?

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Well, this reminds me of when you were in, you were on that show Minute to Win It?

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Mm, so much fun.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  Kevin can do weird stuff really well. What's the weirdest thing you do well?

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Uh...

• 29:29Speaker 01

  I don't know. Like, come on, there's gonna be one top of your head.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  Uh, I can juggle.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  It's not that weird.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  That's pretty cool.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  I'm building a Roblox game. I don't know, that's pretty, that's pretty weird.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  And you do it very well.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Physical thing, like a physical... Um, oh, I'm triple-jointed in my thumbs.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Let's see it. So that you're triple-jointed?

• 29:50Speaker 02

  I'm triple-jointed in my thumbs.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Wake up, daddy, son. Let's see it.

• 29:54Speaker 02

  Um, okay. So, pops out?

• 29:58Speaker 01

  Don't say it pops out.

• 29:59Speaker 00

  Circles around.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Why?

• 30:02Speaker 02

  I don't know. I was sitting in church while dad was on stage one day and I just went like this and you can watch my, watch the, watch the joint, ready?

• 30:09Speaker 01

  I don't need to watch that joint. Can I do my weird talent now?

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, please, please.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  See my middle finger there?

• 30:14Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  I can pop it out of its socket and back, but it's, you can hear it on the camera, ready?

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I heard it.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  You have a rolly.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  I forget that I can do that.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  You wanna hear something crazy?

• 30:31Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Is that your knee?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Okay, I think this just might be old age, guys, I don't know.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  That's, uh... It's called an osteochondroma. Ready, check this out.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  Really?

• 30:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's the tendon rolling over my joint.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Got another one, ready? It's going to my chest.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  Keep your pants on.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Hold on. Quiet, please, on set.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Ah! Pop your sternum?

• 30:51Speaker 01

  Pop my sternum. So, I...

• 30:54Speaker 02

  This episode's gonna crush in geriatric. It's ASMR with the Jonas Brothers.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  We're gonna get a call from like, people are gonna do, doctor podcasts are gonna be like, "And that's why you should be careful of the amount of performances you do a year."

• 31:07Speaker 01

  Okay, so what else?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  That was fun, guys. Well, now that I know that bread, that baguettes go farther, um, we should probably go to stage.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Yes, also, I can balance about anything.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Except your checkbook.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  I was waiting for it, I was thinking of one, like, alright. Somewhere.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Facts.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  I'll let you have that one. But I literally can. You point at it, I'll balance it.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Show me.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Point it.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  Book.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Books are a bit odd.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  You said point at it? I do it. Top book.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, you got it.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  It's not that hard.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Well, it opens, it's hard. Alright, we gotta go. Thanks for watching.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Bye-bye.

• 31:42Speaker 02

  Bye-bye.

• 31:44Speaker 06

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• 32:25Speaker 07

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