Hey Bill Hader!

A chat with the Cat! Emmy award winner Bill Hader. They’re talking SNL, Barry, and how you can never go wrong with a fart joke. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  Yeah, straight out the dome.

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  And he usually does it before show.

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  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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• 2:43Speaker 00

  Jonas. Hi guys.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Oh hey.

• 2:45Speaker 02

  Hey Joe.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  I've got a bone to pick.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Let's hear it.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  The bone I'm picking is your bones.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Hmm, I don't really understand what, I don't want you picking my bone.

• 2:56Speaker 00

  Too bad.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  I don't like this.

• 2:58Speaker 00

  I, can we start over?

• 3:00Speaker 01

  No, too bad, we're in it now.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  The family group text, okay? It's quite sacred. But I think there is a little conversation to be had about family group text etiquette. Exhibit A.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  How much you send?

• 3:16Speaker 00

  No, well, first of all, F you, Kevin, Jonas. It's about, no, I've spent, look at these, I send one, two, three, four messages. And all I get are emoticons, or what do you call those?

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  Joe, we're with each other all the time. You show us the pictures in real life.

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  You're texting us.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  And then we go, oh, that's so cute.

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  Sitting at the table together.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  This is for mom and dad, this is not for, we're with you while you're sending it. You literally go like this, I will challenge Jonas. You'll be like, look at this, it's so cute. And I'm like, oh, that's so cute. Then you send it, do I have to then respond on the thing?

• 3:49Speaker 00

  Hold on, I'm just like, you guys are coming at me right now? I'm just feeling real.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  You started it.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  You came at us!

• 3:55Speaker 00

  I just was trying to have a casual conversation.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, next time, think before you speak.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  Listen, there are a lot of people in this group text, your wives.

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  Yeah, and they're responding, we're together.

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  We're with you.

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  We spend all our time together.

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  I'm just saying, all I'm saying is if you send something, I feel like a little like, a little bit more than a, I don't know, call me old-fashioned, but what is this, Instagram? Why am I just getting likes out here?

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  So here's what I'll do.

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  Thumbs up, exclamation point?

• 4:20Speaker 01

  I will not respond in person when you show me a video or picture of your very cute kids. I'll go, mm, I'm sorry, I'm gonna save it for the group text.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  What is the context of these messages?

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  Does it matter?

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Well, this one might not be a good example of what's happening in our group chat.

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  The top one is, so I took a screenshot of Franklin Jonas's text messages for me from way back when, because it was his birthday, and he said, "To Margaritaville," and thought that was funny. And then I wrote, "Happy Birthday Frank," that got a like, probably from Kevin Senior.

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  You ran this joke by us before you posted it on the group text.

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  You literally said it to me in the gym.

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  I like he said, "posted" on the group text, like it's a feed.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Okay, boomer.

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  But it's great, Denise Jonas, "I came as, I saw, I conquered," which came as wine, I would love to, we'd love to get our mom sponsored, that's important.

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  Yes.

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  It'll save us a bunch of money.

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  You workshop to that joke with me in the gym, right before you sent it.

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  Okay, Kevin, we want to get our mom sponsored. Came as, okay, and finally, but not lastly, "Oh, you're in your summer clothes," which is a callback to Hey Jonas podcast, which was actually a screenshot of an Instagram, and then I'd send it to.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  That's very funny, and you should have gotten some response.

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  That's really funny.

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  I didn't even get anything.

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  It's funny, because in the car, when you posted it on the family chat, I said, huh, that was funny, in real life.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  I love you said, "posted" on the family chat, it's funny. Anyway, I'm stressed out, let's bring in our guest, because he's an incredible person, and honestly, he's playing a character that solves a lot of family problems. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the pod, Bill Hader, everybody. Bill Hader on the pod. I got really nervous, so all I had, Bill, was this. Needless to say, this place has everything. I do have that, or this. So just in case.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  We got options.

• 5:53Speaker 05

  Oh, good.

• 5:54Speaker 00

  Hey Bill, where are you FaceTiming us from?

• 5:57Speaker 05

  Uh, Los Angeles, where it's 100 degrees right now.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  It is very warm there.

• 6:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's obscenely hot right now.

• 6:04Speaker 00

  It's great to see you. We were just talking before you hopped in, how we go way, way back. Kevin actually said, wait, he was the wizard in the SNL skit that we did with him, right? I was like, yeah, the ageless, ageless wizard.

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  The ageless wizard of property of the queen.

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  Which, we just recently saw that again, and it holds up. Not every bit.

• 6:25Speaker 05

  Oh, really? Oh, good.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Do you remember any of the sketches, or like, there are ones that stand out? Like, is it just one big blur?

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  Some stick out, I remember that one, just because I had to wear that, that beard was so itchy.

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  Sorry about that.

• 6:38Speaker 05

  And also, it was nice, though, when I came, and you guys were laughing so much. So I was like, well, that's good.

• 6:43Speaker 00

  That's probably rare, too, you did a sketch with a bunch of teenagers on the show.

• 6:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 6:48Speaker 00

  It was back in '09, Valentine's Day, 2009.

• 6:53Speaker 05

  Oh my god. Now, Andy Samberg and I texted, yesterday was the 21st anniversary of our first show.

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  Wow, congratulations.

• 7:04Speaker 05

  So, we've been on, we were on SNL, the legal drinking age.

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  You can finally drink, yeah.

• 7:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 7:10Speaker 00

  Now, you've probably told this story a million times, so sorry to ask you this question, but can you walk us through your audition for the show? And what happened when you found out you got it?

• 7:18Speaker 05

  I got very lucky, Megan Mullally saw me in a, in a Second City show, like in 2004, that her brother-in-law was in. And, and she, you know, Matt Offerman is really funny, great guy, and we were in the show together. And then she, afterwards, was like, hey, you're really funny. And then, I was working as an assistant editor at the time on Iron Chef America. I was a nighttime assistant editor.

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  Oh, sick.

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  And she, yeah, it was pretty awesome.

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  Did you do the, did you edit Iron Chef Masters as well?

• 7:56Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, no, well, I don't know, it was just Iron Chef America, I don't know what the Masters were. I didn't really pay much attention, to be honest. I just had a lot of footage.

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  Of people cooking.

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  Bobby Flay running around, and Mario Batali running around, and I had one thing, Bobby Flay electrocuted himself once, we were like, oh shit.

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  You're gonna watch the rest of the video?

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  He grabbed this pan and just kind of dropped. Um, he was fine, though. And then, yeah, she called me and was like, I went and had dinner with Laura Michaels, and I told him about you, and they'd like to meet you. And so I went out there and met him. He, you know, said, yeah, you should audition. And then I auditioned a couple times. Like, they came to LA, they saw me perform, then we went to New York, I performed there. And then, then I did a proper audition. And then the summer of 2005, found out I got the job. And I remember flying up with Andy Samberg.

• 8:58Speaker 00

  No way, really?

• 8:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, we were on the flight together up, kind of going like, wow, this is crazy.

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  It's so cool, man.

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  And then we had dinner, I remember with Lauren, and as we walked out, Conan O'Brien was walking in. And we met Conan O'Brien and we're like, whoa. Like, we were just like starstruck the whole time. So, yeah, it was really cool. And that's how I.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  How soon after that final audition, did you find out that you got?

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  Uh, it was, it was like three weeks later. I got a manager solely off getting the audition. Like, they were like, whoa, SNL wanted to meet you. And I got a manager, Naomi Odenkirk. And I remember we were eating and I went to the restroom. As I came back, she had her phone and she handed it to me. And hello, and it was Marcie Klein saying, hey, so, yeah, you're hired.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  So awesome.

• 9:46Speaker 05

  That's like, that's crazy. Yeah, life changer.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Feels like so, from some of the other, you know, comedians that have been on this show and other people we've talked to, it just seems like such an intense process, though, of going through the auditioning. Was, what was the thing that you went in there and were like, I can do this and I can do it well? Like, what gave you like, a little bit of confidence going into the room?

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  I mean, I knew I was pretty good at impressions, so I knew I had that. Actually, the thing that was most helpful was finding out that, you know, you should, you should make your audition kind of like, quick. Like, get it down to like five minutes.

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  Right.

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  Don't go in there and like, take your time, be, you know, because I was, you were seeing people with, you know, props and like, different, you know, wigs and stuff they were putting on. And I was like, I don't have any of that. I just kind of, it was like a stand-up, like a five-minute stand-up set, you know? And so I kind of had the idea where I was gonna do this character I used to do on the show, Vinnie Vedetti. He was an Italian guy. And it was him doing impressions. So I was doing a character, doing impressions. So they were, maybe so, here's some of my character work and here's some impressions that I can do. And then within that, I would do other characters, like Vinnie Vedetti would go, there's a character I have called so-and-so, you know, whatever.

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  And so I was able to get it into a really tight five minutes. And so my feeling was like, well, at least they'll do it and they won't be bored. It'll be, I'll be in and out, you know? So I'm not gonna, you know, maybe that'll be a plus. But I knew it was good because a couple minutes, a couple seconds into it, Tina Fey started laughing.

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  That's always a good sign.

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  And I really relaxed. I was like, whoa, Tina laughed, okay.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  That's awesome. And is this in front of the other people auditioning as well, that you're doing this? Or is it just?

• 11:32Speaker 05

  You could hear him. That was messed up. We're all in dressing rooms, like, and you could hear the auditions happening. So you were hearing other people audition and I was, I now know I could have just turned it, the knob is in the room.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  The knob's in the room.

• 11:47Speaker 05

  But I didn't know.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  So interesting, so you could listen to the other auditions.

• 11:52Speaker 05

  Yeah. I don't know if they did it on purpose, so they just didn't, they forgot that, you know, some of the dressing rooms had the sound up.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Everything would be on purpose.

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  Nick and I had an audition for, for Wicked. Nick and I both auditioned for a part in the movie.

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  Didn't get it.

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  Yeah, didn't get that one. But I think what got me was hearing.

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  It didn't do well.

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  Nah.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Too bad.

• 12:14Speaker 00

  I could hear the guy auditioning and I was like, oh, okay, so he's singing, he's singing three octaves higher than I had, I had planned. Okay, and he sounds really, really good, perfect. Okay, no problem. And then I walk, he walks out and he's like, oh, hey, man. And you know, like, they're waving back, like, all right. And they're like clapping, you're just like, oh, great, here we go.

• 12:30Speaker 05

  That's the worst, when you're auditioning anything and you see the person in front of you come out of the room and they're all like, oh, my God, that was amazing. You know, and you're like.

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  Sing it again.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  So you were doing Second City before this, yeah?

• 12:44Speaker 05

  It was Second City LA, so it wasn't like the, in Chicago or, you know, that's like.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Still, you're doing, were you auditioning a ton in LA before you got the audition for SNL?

• 12:53Speaker 05

  No, I was, I was trying to be a filmmaker. I wasn't, like, acting wasn't even a thing. I did Second City because a friend of mine, I went and saw his Level Five show, this guy, Eric Filkowski. I went and saw his, Level Five is your final show. And I was like, wow, there's people my age doing comedy. I didn't, like, it didn't even cross my mind to do improv or sketch comedy. And so I'd been living in LA for, at that point, six years. I hadn't really done anything creative. Like, I was trying to write these movies and things like that, but I was trying to make a living. So I was P A-ing on movies and I was an assistant editor and on a post-P A.

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  And I was just kind of like, not really, like, I mean, I gotta make something. So I was like, well, if I take these classes and it's like, okay, once a week, I'm doing something creative and, and then I'll meet people. Maybe that can be in my short films. You know, that's how I thought it would go.

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  Right.

• 13:51Speaker 05

  And then when Megan Mullally saw me and I got, I met Lauren, and then I got, Naomi Odenkirk became my manager. Then I went and did that, what do you call it, pilot season.

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  Pilot season.

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  And I read for.

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  So fun.

• 14:08Speaker 05

  What did I read for? And I bombed everything. Oh, I read for How I Met Your Mother pilot, I bombed that. I read for New Adventures of Old Christine, bombed that hard.

• 14:19Speaker 02

  Did you know immediately that you bombed it or you just felt it after?

• 14:22Speaker 05

  They, that one, I think, they told me I bombed it. They were like, okay.

• 14:26Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  You're not gonna get this role.

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  I forget which one, but one of them, I think, said, you know, this is a comedy, right?

• 14:33Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

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  Lucky good neighbor, State Farm is there. Hey, Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers. All right, who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

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  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

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  I think it was.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're like, you know, guys, I tried this Almond Breeze in my coffee today.

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  Changed the game for me. All right, who's the most likely to finish the last carton of Almond Breeze and not replace it?

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  That's Kevin.

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  Kevin, of course.

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  Yeah.

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  That's someone else's job.

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  Take it, Kev.

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  What's the most random place you drank Almond Breeze?

• 15:21Speaker 00

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like Almond Breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

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  Ooh. Kevin's, you know what, I found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, just straight up to down.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  And he usually does it before show.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

• 15:42Speaker 00

  He needs it on stage.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Okay, last question. Why do you guys like Almond Breeze so much?

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

• 15:48Speaker 00

  It is great. It's simply because it's really good.

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  I, I made a terrible mistake. A morning show, I, in the audition, they were like, um, all right, and you can read off the sides if you like. I'm like, no, I got it.

• 16:38Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Never do that.

• 16:40Speaker 05

  Why, you read, you, you read for those? That's, I mean, that's, you know, a lot of people won't read, you know, so.

• 16:46Speaker 00

  I know, I'm very grateful, but, you know, lesson learned. Just if they offer sides, you hold those damn sides.

• 16:51Speaker 05

  Hold your sides.

• 16:52Speaker 01

  So how soon after SNL did Barry come about? And was that something that you were cooking up while you were doing the show or?

• 17:00Speaker 05

  No, I was trying to write movies and I had, I had written a movie for Jed Abitow that, like, didn't really work. And I wrote something for Scott Rudin and that didn't really work. And I was just, I very quickly was like, if I could learn, you know, I need to learn to write. So that's why I went and worked at, like, South Park and I did stuff at Pixar a little bit, just to see like, how things can be written. And then, and then after I'd done the movie Trainwreck, I had a meeting at HBO and they said, we would really like to work with you, but not like what you did on SNL. You know, they had seen a film I was in called Skeleton Twins. And they were like, we really liked your work in Skeleton Twins.

• 17:44Speaker 05

  We think something more like that, as opposed to like sketch.

• 17:49Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 17:50Speaker 05

  And I was like, all right, I wasn't expecting that. And then, uh. They, they were saying, you know, there's this guy Alec Berg, who just, uh, who, he has a show, Silicon Valley, which is about to come out.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  Love that show.

• 18:04Speaker 05

  I was like, all right. So I met him and then I saw Silicon Valley, like, wow, this is great. And then he and I met and just started talking about ideas and, and that we had one idea that we tried to write for a couple of months and it just wasn't working. And then almost in frustration, one day we were, um, at this S and W diner in Culver City and we were sitting there and we were frustrated. And then I said, well, what if I was like a hitman, but like, you know, it's me, you know, just like me being myself, but I'm a hitman. And then quickly somehow the idea of him being in an acting class, like I, we still, we were talking about this the other day. We still have

• 18:48Speaker 05

  no idea where acting class came from, but we were like, oh, he should be in an acting class. I don't know if, if it's similar with songwriting or what you guys do. We're just, there's some things that just doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. And then suddenly you come up an idea and then it, it's like a tree. It just starts to grow in the right direction. You're like, oh, okay. So he lives in darkness, but he wants to live in a spotlight. Like he has to, like those two things don't go together, you know? And then it's like, oh, what if he meets these people? And then he's like getting into, you know, it's like therapy for him. He's like, understanding why he does these things and, you know, and, but he's getting it through this acting class and, and, uh, and we got really excited. It was that feeling, you know, where you're like, okay, this is, this is a thing, you know?

• 19:33Speaker 02

  It definitely was a thing. And yeah, I think songwriting is very similar to that, at least for myself and my, our experience. Like I'll see an idea start with, uh, I don't know, a melody over here with Joe and then a lyric and with Nick. And then it translates to be something completely different. Oh, you know, once someone else collaborates as well. It's just really cool to see how creativity can be like its own, like you said, tree with so many different branches.

• 19:55Speaker 05

  Yeah. Just sometimes you plant a thing and it grows like sideways. It just kind of dies.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 20:01Speaker 05

  Or it goes up and it goes right back into the ground. And you're like, okay, that's not going to work.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the best feeling, you know, when you, you're like, oh man, none of these things have worked and you just, you just have to keep doing it. And suddenly something clicks.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Well, something that definitely worked in my household with you is Cloudy with a Chance. It is one of our favorite films.

• 20:22Speaker 00

  It's one of my favorite films and I, I always wanted to go to a restaurant that made certain items like that from the movie.

• 20:31Speaker 05

  Oh, huge.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  It's huge.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure you can find a place like that. You guys should open that up.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  There you go. See, this is the tree.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  This is the tree. It's starting to grow.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  It's starting to grow. Exactly.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  The ice cream scene where they were like, where he gets like, pretends like he got like shot with the ice cream is like the funniest thing.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  Such a good movie.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  It's so well done. Your voice is perfect. And you know, your voice work. Do you enjoy doing voice work?

• 20:55Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, I do. I mean, I think, I say this a lot, but I think the thing that people assume is that it's really easy and you kind of just waltz in and you do it. But it's, I'm so exhausted after I do a.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Dude, it's physical, right?

• 21:08Speaker 05

  Yeah. You guys have done stuff like that. It's like, it's, it's really, you're just like.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Afterwards, you're like, I'm, I'm just like, where are we going for dinner? Nowhere. I'm going to go.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  You're fried.

• 21:16Speaker 00

  I'm at my bed.

• 21:17Speaker 05

  Like, don't you just roll out of bed in your pajamas and you just do it? I'm like, no, man. I have to like go take a nap. I like, I like, cause you're screaming for four hours.

• 21:27Speaker 00

  And then they, they always make you do like an hour or two of, it's called efforts for those that don't know.

• 21:31Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 21:32Speaker 00

  And that's, that's the hardest part.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  What's an effort? I haven't been.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  Please give me your best effort.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  Well, there's some really awkward ones too. Like, you know, obviously not in the animated stuff, there's not going to be, but when you're, you know, and we're doing ADR.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  ADR.

• 21:47Speaker 00

  Sometimes there'll be like an intimacy and you have to be doing the efforts or, you know, yeah, exactly.

• 21:54Speaker 00

  It's really strange, but there's a great video, there's a great video of Hugh Jackman doing the efforts for Wolverine or for Logan.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  It's so intense.

• 22:02Speaker 00

  It's, it's.

• 22:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  It's inspiring. And I think that was probably one of the first videos we saw where like, oh yeah, like he, it's like, people are like, oh, it's so funny. He's like pretending to do it. It's like, what do you expect?

• 22:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:14Speaker 05

  No, you have to, I have a video, we did an episode of Barry where, um, there is this little, uh, the Karate Girl episode, Ronnie Lilly, that where there's this big fight scene. It's like the whole episode's a fight scene. And this guy, Daniel, who's like one of the, he kind of looks like, I think he might've doubled Hugh Jackman. He looks a lot like Hugh Jackman.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  He's a huge jacked man.

• 22:36Speaker 05

  Huge jacked man. He's actually a lot of the agents in The Matrix. That's like, a lot of those are him with like some, like he's this insane, he's unbelievable.

• 22:46Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 22:46Speaker 05

  And, uh, I have a video of him watching a fight, like a fight scene like that, that, uh, Hugh Jackman wanted, where he's just doing all the efforts. And yeah, it is like he's giving a hundred percent. By the end of it, he was like just drenched in sweat. I mean, it was wild.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  It's awesome.

• 23:04Speaker 05

  But I, the weird thing about the efforts too is like, sometimes it'll be like, all right, kicked in the, kicked in the stomach. You go, uh, and it's like kicked in the stomach by a horse.

• 23:14Speaker 05

  Kicked in the stomach by a robot.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  It's all the same, but just.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  It's all the same thing. And I'm like, like, can you go back to horse again? Just do that one more time? Oh, okay. That was good. All right. We like that.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  What kind of efforts did you have to do for Cat in the Hat?

• 23:29Speaker 00

  Let's, let's talk about that for a minute.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 00

  Very excited about this.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. So excited.

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  Hey, Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  All right. Who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first? Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 24:05Speaker 00

  I think it was.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  Changed the game for me. All right. Who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it? That's Kevin.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Kevin, of course.

• 24:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  That's someone else's job.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  Take it, Kev. What's the most random place you drank almond breeze? The last time I visited the Empire State Building. Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

• 24:31Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Ooh. Um, Kevin's, you know what? So I found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. Straight off the dome.

• 24:39Speaker 00

  And he usually does it before show.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. Just really getting myself going.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  He needs it on stage. Okay. Last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative. It is great.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  It's simply because it's really good. True. Try almond breeze. Trust us. It's really good. You've probably heard that good things come in threes.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  No, I've never heard that.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  Kevin. Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors. Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And that is a good one.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  Or because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  There's no three in Kleenex tissues.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend. Listen, Kleenex lotion tissues have three in one, skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes and moisturizes your skin.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 25:26Speaker 02

  You've got a good point.

• 25:28Speaker 00

  Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and aloe. Wow. Good things really do come in threes. For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex. Uh, I'm, I'm a long time Dr. Seuss fan, lifelong Dr. Seuss fan. Uh, Cat in the Hat, obviously one of the greatest of all time. And by the way, not your first time.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:46Speaker 00

  Something with Cat in the Hat. In 2014, you played a very different version of Cat in the Hat. Played a naughty, naughty cat. We'll, we'll play the clip now.

• 25:53Speaker 06

  You want to see me dance? It's a great, great dance.

• 25:58Speaker 06

  She gets it from you.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Wait, is, is she my daughter? It's a little different and.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  That was a little different. That was a hard one to explain to the kids.

• 26:11Speaker 00

  Is it similar to Barry? We're like, we like what you did there, but we want it to be different.

• 26:18Speaker 05

  You think this is going to be like cloudy, but what we want you to do is you did this SNL sketch. We want this to be like a naughty cat.

• 26:26Speaker 00

  What, what's that been like for you? And, you know, are you a lifelong fan? Are you excited to be, to be like bringing this into a whole new universe?

• 26:34Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, it's where you learn how to read, you know, as a kid. I mean, those were the first books that you were given or Dr. Seuss. Yeah. We all had that. And then having those read to me and then reading them to my kids and.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  A fellow girl dad.

• 26:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. Three girls. How many, you have girls?

• 26:53Speaker 00

  I got two.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  I have two.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Two. I've got one. We're.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  All girls.

• 26:56Speaker 00

  Deep in the throes of Cat in the Hat right now too. Our daughter's four and a half. She's, she's really getting into Dr. Seuss.

• 27:03Speaker 05

  Awesome.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  So this comes in.

• 27:04Speaker 05

  How old are the rest of your guys' daughters?

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Almost thirteen and ten.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  Six and four.

• 27:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, man. The teenagers, get ready, guys.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  I'm already starting to see it.

• 27:16Speaker 05

  I got a seventeen and fourteen year old.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 27:19Speaker 05

  And an eleven year old.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  Awesome. Congrats to you. And that's.

• 27:21Speaker 05

  They're great, but it's, you know.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's real.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  It gets intense. It's real. But they're awesome. And they still love Dr. Seuss. They're all three really excited for the movie.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  So pumped.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  And it's genuinely really funny. I know it's like, okay, you have to go on there and you have to sell a movie, but I've had it. I mean, you guys, you have to go on something, do a press tour, and you're kind of like, it's good. Yeah, it's good. It's for the family. And you have like your stuff. This one, it's actually really good. It's so good.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  It's the best feeling in the world.

• 27:50Speaker 05

  Really, really, like, I really am proud of it. My kid, I took my eleven year old to see a screening, and she brought a bunch of friends. And like, we were all dying laughing. Like, it's very funny.

• 28:01Speaker 00

  It's such a relief, isn't it? When you go to the first screening, you watch, and you go, it's not terrible. It's good. It's like the best feeling.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  We did a Christmas film last year, and Nick watched it much earlier than I did. And he's like, it's great. And I'm like, I just wouldn't watch it like for a long time. I just could not break. I was like, there's no chance it's gonna be good.

• 28:19Speaker 00

  No, it's actually good. And we're like, uh, yeah, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  I'm sure it is. And so we finally watched it.

• 28:25Speaker 00

  Well, we can't wait. It's gonna be so fun. I mean, literally, even in the trailer, there's a fart joke. In any movie that has fart jokes in the trailer.

• 28:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, it goes hard.

• 28:33Speaker 00

  I think the quote is, you've gone too far. Did you say too fart? Too fart?

• 28:40Speaker 01

  So good.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Classic.

• 28:42Speaker 05

  No, it's very classy stuff like that.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Now, there's obviously been some iconic fellow actor friends of yours and people that we just adore that have played Cat in the Hat. Did you, did you do any chats with some cats beforehand?

• 28:57Speaker 05

  I meet Mike Myers about it, or?

• 28:59Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 29:01Speaker 05

  Weird, like, a connection that Alec Berg was one of the writers on that, the Michael, Mike Myers movie.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  Oh, cool.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 29:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. So I asked him about it. He's like, I don't remember much. It's different from that. I mean, I actually haven't seen it. So I should see it. But I remember it. My kids saw it. And they were like, it's wild.

• 29:23Speaker 00

  Well, we do this thing where we answer voicemail questions on our podcast that we have no credentials for. And we have a couple voicemails we'd love to do with you, if you don't mind.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  Oh, great.

• 29:36Speaker 01

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• 29:42Speaker 00

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• 30:00Speaker 00

  Let's do it. This one's from Julie.

• 30:02Speaker 06

  Hi, my name is Julie. I'm from Texas. And one thing I just have always wondered is, like, when you shower, do you physically, like, wash your feet, right? Because I feel like when I have this icebreaker question, when I'm like meeting groups of people, I learn a lot about the person right away. Because if a person tells me, no, I'm in the shower, I just let the soapy water trickle down my legs, and it washes my feet.

• 30:35Speaker 06

  Huh? You don't physically take either a washcloth or your loofah and like physically scrub your feet? What about the crusty crust in between your toes? Like, what? So please, I need to know where y'all stand. Are you a water, soapy water trickles down your legs, and it cleans your feet? Or do you physically scrub in between your toes?

• 30:58Speaker 05

  And she asks this to like groups of people.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  Thank you, Julie, for your question.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  You know, it is a break the ice question.

• 31:05Speaker 05

  It is a break the ice question. It's a pretty good question.

• 31:07Speaker 00

  What do you think? And also, I guess, if you feel comfortable answering.

• 31:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on how, you know, how much time I have, you know? Because you are getting a lot of soapy water on the feet. But then sometimes, you see, the problem is, I've had a thing where I'm like, okay, I got like something that's on my feet, and I have to wash it. And then your feet are really slippery when you walk out of the shower. And that's another thing.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Dangerous.

• 31:32Speaker 05

  But, uh, no, I don't really, I don't really think, I don't really wash my feet. I just let, you're standing in soapy water.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Let gravity do its thing.

• 31:40Speaker 00

  I let soapy water dribble down to my feet.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  You know what I do, since you asked, Julie? I sort of like do this. I lift one foot up, and I give it a quick wipe off. Yeah, but I'm standing, but I sort of do the tree pose.

• 31:56Speaker 05

  But, and then do you really have to dry your feet, though, when you walk out, right?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  I have a mat that absorbs a lot of the moisture. Takes the slippery.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  Are you putting soap on it?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  No, it's sort of just the soap from, it's the soap that's there.

• 32:10Speaker 05

  Right, right, right, right.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  I'm not like adding fresh soap.

• 32:14Speaker 05

  Put the soap on it is when they slip.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's dangerous.

• 32:17Speaker 00

  I would say, Julie, maybe don't go with this as your first leading question at a group.

• 32:21Speaker 05

  I would say something like, where are you guys from?

• 32:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:24Speaker 05

  That's a good opening icebreaker.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Or this next question from, from Milo. We got our little homies, five years old. Milo is calling in.

• 32:32Speaker 06

  Hi, my name is Milo. I'm five. Who are your heroes?

• 32:38Speaker 00

  Who are your heroes? Thank you, Milo. Great question. Bill, who's your hero? Heroes.

• 32:45Speaker 05

  Pete Rose.

• 32:46Speaker 00

  Pete Rose.

• 32:48Speaker 05

  Did you say Pete Rose? Or Heroes?

• 32:51Speaker 00

  Heroes.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  I thought you said Pete Rose.

• 32:52Speaker 05

  I thought you said Pete Rose.

• 32:53Speaker 00

  Fantastic. That's the best answer you could have given.

• 32:56Speaker 05

  Who's your hero? Pete Rose? I'm like, actually, it is. That's crazy.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  How'd you know?

• 33:01Speaker 05

  I don't know. I have a lot of heroes. I mean, it's like filmmaker heroes. I mean, you know, I have the usual, you know, Scorsese and Kurosawa and people like that. And then a hero in life, I mean, my dad. Pretty great guy.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  Great.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:17Speaker 00

  Great answer. Gentlemen?

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Pete Rose.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  Pete Rose.

• 33:23Speaker 05

  Shout out.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Pete Rose, Sammy Sosa, Candy Griffith. Yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  Just the obvious ones.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  I mean, our dad, our dad too, for sure. You know, I think people that work in the healthcare space, pretty amazing, especially ICU, NICU, pretty, they're like angels to me.

• 33:44Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:45Speaker 00

  You want to follow, Kevin? Do you have any want to follow after Nick on that one?

• 33:48Speaker 01

  Mic drop.

• 33:48Speaker 00

  Thanks, Nick.

• 33:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're like.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  I second your, your, your answer.

• 33:53Speaker 05

  You're like, I see you and our first responders. And you're like, I like Usher.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Okay, we have time for one more voicemail.

• 34:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  And then we're gonna go to our whole question. Okay, this is from anonymous.

• 34:07Speaker 06

  Hey, guys, I just listened to your most recent podcast, and I just wanted to let Kevin know that I am also a firm banana hater. I have always hated bananas. I don't know what it is. It's the texture, it's the taste, it's the smell, it's all of it. And so I just really wanted to stand in solidarity with Kevin and just let you know that you are not the only banana hater. Love you, guys.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Big banana, the Big Banana Mob's gonna come after you, Kev.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  I'm coming up against Big Banana right now.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  Kevin would go with that he's allergic to bananas for years.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  So that no, that it wouldn't show up in my food.

• 34:43Speaker 00

  Most recently, he just says, he's like, I just don't like them. But, yeah.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  I've stopped lying to the general public, essentially.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  Because we have a lot of, we're peanut allergy, we're peanut free band, because we have a lot of peanuts in our vicinity. But your peanut, you have a peanut allergy, correct?

• 35:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:00Speaker 00

  And you voice Mr. Peanut?

• 35:02Speaker 05

  I was the voice of Mr. Peanut.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  Insane.

• 35:04Speaker 05

  I told that I was allergic to it on Howard Stern Live, Howard Stern Brian. And he was like, so you're the voice of Mr. Peanut? And you're allergic to peanuts, right? And I go, yeah. And I don't know if the Mr. Peanut, if the Planters Peanut people knew that. The minute I said that, my phone just started going.

• 35:26Speaker 05

  And in my head, I was like, I bet I wasn't supposed to say that.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  Somewhere in the fine print, we'll not disclose you have a peanut allergy.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  That seems like something they should ask the person they hire to voice Mr. Peanut before.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  One last thing. Do you have any allergies we should know about?

• 35:44Speaker 05

  But they were, they were cool. They were like, oh, they don't care.

• 35:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, we just called to tell you we don't care. Bill, thank you so much for being on our podcast. And congrats.

• 35:54Speaker 05

  Thanks for taking the time to talk to me, guys.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  We are so pumped.

• 35:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, we are so hyped for you, man. And we hope to see you soon.

• 35:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, thanks, guys.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 36:01Speaker 00

  See ya. Bill hater. Love that guy.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  What an incredible interview. I love that guy.

• 36:05Speaker 00

  Such a, just a good vibe, such a gem, and so knowledgeable on.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  I love how he casually dropped, he's like, then I wouldn't work with Pixar and something like.

• 36:13Speaker 00

  Pixar and South Park. Just about, he's like, and just to figure out how they, how it's done. I'm like, wow, that's a pretty sick thing. But we didn't get to, we never asked him, actually. He could have been helpful. Or Cat in the Hat could have been helpful about.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  With his, with his dynamic with his three daughters.

• 36:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, like.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  But our sibling dynamic and.

• 36:31Speaker 00

  Our family, family, well, really.

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Actually, you know what?

• 36:35Speaker 00

  Group chat etiquette.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  If you think that Joe's full of shit, and that this take.

• 36:39Speaker 00

  Excuse me?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Is dumb, because you actually spend time responding to real life.

• 36:44Speaker 00

  Or if you back me up, if you think I'm in the right, that it deserves more than a like or an exclamation point, or am I just getting too old?

• 36:49Speaker 01

  I think you're being very needy.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm sorry I have needs.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Pick me.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  If you agree or disagree, please call us at this hotline. You can see it here. Or you can call the number, which is?

• 37:01Speaker 00

  One eight four, hey Jonas.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  You know it. You love it. Give us a call. Let us know. And as always.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  Bye bye.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Bye bye.

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