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• 0:16Speaker 01

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  And he usually does it before show.

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• 4:04Speaker 00

  Jonas.

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  All right.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  What's going on?

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Here we are. Hey, boys.

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  You guys happen to look like you're wearing golf clothes.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Ooh, golf.

• 4:15Speaker 00

  We just celebrated Nick's birthday last night.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Let's get it.

• 4:17Speaker 00

  It was so fun. We had a blast. That's just a half a clap.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  We had chocolate cake, which I never have.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  You never had chocolate cake? Actually, Hershey's DM'd me when they sold the cake.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Did they?

• 4:26Speaker 00

  They said, here, let me read the DM.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Let's see.

• 4:28Speaker 00

  This is really funny, actually. Hershey's DM'd me and said, now this is our kind of celebration.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Love it.

• 4:35Speaker 00

  I sent the eye emojis back and hope that I'm gonna get some free chocolate.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  Send you some swag.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  I don't know what they, I mean, it looks like a s'more cake. It was s'mores.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:43Speaker 00

  And what typically do you go? Oh, you usually go pumpkin pie. But you're gonna get a lot of that.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was, that was a surprise. I didn't see.

• 4:50Speaker 00

  And Danny's birthday is tomorrow.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  It is pumpkin season.

• 4:53Speaker 00

  So what's our, what is your plans? What are we doing? You coming here? You coming over here?

• 4:58Speaker 01

  We're doing it there. Yep, we're going to where you are, the golf course.

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  Just so.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  This house that you're at has a lazy river, right? That's the. They're all in it right now. It is insane.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  Kevin's got that lazy river money.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  I got that lazy river money. They're all outside on the pool, people arrive in. You come over anytime?

• 5:14Speaker 00

  What does, what does it say behind you? Welcome to?

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Old Town Scottsdale.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  Is it like a themed house?

• 5:21Speaker 01

  No, this is just like what feels like a convention area, like this looks like a boardroom area.

• 5:27Speaker 00

  A normal home has a convention area.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

• 5:31Speaker 00

  That's sick.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  It's fun, we're having a good time.

• 5:33Speaker 00

  Nice. Any drama yet?

• 5:36Speaker 01

  No drama yet. I have been invited to all the events. It's been great.

• 5:40Speaker 00

  Okay, that's great. All the events, what does that mean?

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Well, because last time you got mad because they did something without him, had breakfast without him.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  Oh, right, right, right, that's right. So, yeah, we're so far, so good.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I snuck out this morning after your party last night. Everyone was sleeping it off and I went and played the festivities. I have no idea, just, you know, making hats.

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  Got it.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  And we.

• 6:01Speaker 00

  We did make hats for your party.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  I made six hats.

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  This morning. We played golf.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  You did?

• 6:05Speaker 00

  Played golf this morning.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  You were here?

• 6:06Speaker 00

  I did.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  What the hell? Yeah, we showed up, we were on the course at 7:30.

• 6:11Speaker 00

  I've just been prepping this whole morning for this interview, that's all I've been doing.

• 6:14Speaker 01

  Not gonna lie, I am a bit nervous for this interview today. I don't really get nervous, but these two guys are heroes of mine.

• 6:20Speaker 00

  I mean, they're just cool as shit. They're the coolest.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  All right, all right, all right. I'm gonna try to be casual about it all day, but I'm definitely, you know.

• 6:28Speaker 00

  I mean, look, there's not, there's not enough prep in the world for people like this. When you speak to people that are just fantastic, they're not only so incredibly talented, but they mean well, they have such big hearts. And, you know, like us, they are potentially, if not for sure, brothers. And so it's nice to talk to another pair of bros. And, yeah. I mean, their credits, it's just, I couldn't, we wouldn't have enough time to kind of like speak about the awards they've won and the milestones they've made for, for charities, for their, for the state of Texas.

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  State of Texas.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah.

• 7:05Speaker 00

  I think we should just bring them in. What do you guys think?

• 7:06Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 7:07Speaker 00

  Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the pod, Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. Hi, gentlemen, how you guys doing?

• 7:14Speaker 06

  We're good, man.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  Good, how are you?

• 7:16Speaker 06

  Y'all doing good?

• 7:17Speaker 00

  Doing well.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  Fantastic.

• 7:18Speaker 00

  We are so thrilled to talk to you guys and talk about this new project. We're very excited to watch it. If you don't mind, tell the listener all about this show, why you guys decided to put this thing on tape and go to your friends at Apple.

• 7:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, so about nine years ago, we're on vacation, my family, Woody's family, we've been on many vacations for decades now. And his kids always call me Uncle Matthew, my kids call him Uncle Woody, and oh my gosh, we are so much alike, it's like your brothers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's always in jest. And this particular night at about 1:00 AM, my mom, after just the right amount of Kendall Jacksons and whatever she smoked when she took a walk with Woody that night, throws this line out, she goes, "Oh, I knew. Your father, Woody."

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 8:03Speaker 06

  And the innuendo and that ellipsis made everybody, even my six-year-old son, think, oh, they must have hooked up. And so, we laughed, but then the kids didn't laugh, and you didn't laugh. He was like, "Oh, I believe it, I do." He's believed it since that day. I do not believe it.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  So, do we know for sure if this, this is real?

• 8:28Speaker 06

  Listen, we know for sure that they shagged, okay?

• 8:32Speaker 01

  We don't know for sure.

• 8:33Speaker 06

  They definitely, they did the horizontal B.

• 8:37Speaker 06

  And it's a real deal. Uh, and then it was around the time that he, she was on her second divorce from, uh, Jim, cause they got married three times. My mom and dad were married three times, divorced twice. Yeah. And the timeline would add up that whenever I was going to be conceived, my age would have lined up with my mom's second divorce.

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  Oh, my God.

• 9:04Speaker 06

  And when, when, uh, Mac went to said, come on, Jim, I'm, I'm ready to give birth. He says, no, I'm not going that, that, that, that ain't my kid. Cause he did the math and it wasn't mathin'. But it mathed pretty good for Charles V. Harrelson, you know?

• 9:21Speaker 00

  I'd say so.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Copy.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Well, congrats, guys.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  So, yeah, you're obviously longtime best friends, but now potential brothers.

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  Family.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Uh, you're family. So does it feel any different knowing that this is a true possibility than any other day? Or is it starting to feel a little bit more?

• 9:39Speaker 06

  Everything feels pretty much the same to me. I think Woody starts to sweat a little bit more if his, uh, if, if my son and his daughter are starting to really kind of date or something.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  Oh, boy.

• 9:51Speaker 06

  Hopefully that won't happen.

• 9:52Speaker 00

  You can be written into somebody's will a little bit easier this way now?

• 10:00Speaker 07

  Well, congrats on the show. We're excited to see it.

• 10:02Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 10:03Speaker 07

  Massive hit, I'm sure. So you're reteaming after almost what 12 years since?

• 10:08Speaker 06

  True detective, yeah.

• 10:09Speaker 07

  Yeah. So exciting to see you guys on the screen together again. We're massive fans. Um, we have some history. Matthew, uh, you did the intro to our show a couple of years back.

• 10:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 10:19Speaker 07

  Um, which was insane. Thank you for doing that.

• 10:21Speaker 06

  Cool, a hundred percent.

• 10:23Speaker 07

  Woody, great to get to meet you. Massive fan.

• 10:26Speaker 06

  Thank you. Nice to meet you and vice versa.

• 10:29Speaker 07

  So tell us about, uh, excuse me.

• 10:34Speaker 07

  Tell us about the, the show and, and, and kind of where you guys are, are, I'm sorry. One second, guys. Sorry.

• 10:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's got something stuck in his throat. All right. So what I was saying, he wants to, he wants to hear more about the show. I'm curious as well for you guys, you know, filming this thing, do you involve your families as well? Were they part of the, part of the process?

• 10:52Speaker 06

  So the original idea was that we were gonna do it like a, almost like a docu? Yeah. Drama. Not, not, not like a reality show, you know, but. We were gonna do it with our families.

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  Right.

• 11:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, use our families. Love. And, um, that, you know, I think we made a better choice once we said, no, you know what? Let's base it.

• 11:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly.

• 11:13Speaker 06

  Let's get real actors. You know, when we started doing the show, you know, even the first couple of episodes, we were really kind of bullish about keeping it as realistic to our relationship as possible. But what we found out was, no, we need to, we need to fictionalize this a little bit. That's it. That, that wasn't, that wasn't floating. It wasn't funny enough. It wasn't dramatic enough. The stakes weren't high enough. Cause Woody and I, we battle philosophically on things all the time, but we always end up kind of hugging it out and going, I forgive you and now you got your way, I got mine. Let's move on. The show needed more stakes. The, so we add that I, we added into the show that I'm running for governor and Woody being there might blow that up. You know what I mean?

• 11:56Speaker 06

  So we added some stakes that gave it a little more conflict, which helps, the conflict helps the comedy of it. So it's, it's stereotypes of who we are. A little bit paradoxical of who we are and who our families are and what our relationship is.

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  Fantastic.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Great.

• 12:10Speaker 00

  Well, obviously you guys are, are like brothers or are brothers. Is, is there been ever a time? Cause we've had this moment as a family where gone a little breaks where we like, you know, I've had enough of you. I need, I need some time. But the two of you guys, you guys have obviously been longtime friends. Has there been a season where you're like?

• 12:26Speaker 01

  That's why I'm over here and they're over there.

• 12:27Speaker 00

  That's why we keep telling them to separate Zoom.

• 12:29Speaker 06

  I was wondering why that was.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And he's just down the street.

• 12:32Speaker 06

  Distance helps, man.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  It's a, it's a big, uh, it's a, it definitely helps.

• 12:38Speaker 00

  And I'm curious for you guys, has there been a season like that for you? And how long has that gone? Because you guys have obviously been longtime friends.

• 12:44Speaker 06

  Well, yeah, we've been buddies since, uh, 98, was it? Seven? The, before that, 96. 96. We've been buddies since 96. So yeah, 30 years and, uh, but we, we get plenty of breaks from each other because our lives are going all these different directions. So that when we do come together, it's still fresh and fun, you know? You guys should try that. You know, just get away from each other for a little period.

• 13:11Speaker 00

  We find our breaks.

• 13:12Speaker 06

  And then come back and I can tell that this is a serious splinter though between. With the split screen?

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. The split screen is real. No, it's a big celebratory.

• 13:23Speaker 06

  They're actually the same house.

• 13:24Speaker 00

  Exactly. Kevin's just downstairs.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  They put me in the corner.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Uh, no, it's a big celebratory weekend. It's Nick's birthday and also my wife's big 40th birthday. So we're all actually in Scottsdale and doing different parties at the same time, but all together last night. And then they're all coming over here tomorrow, tomorrow night. It's gonna be great.

• 13:42Speaker 06

  Oh, cool. You guys are in Scottsdale?

• 13:44Speaker 07

  Scottsdale is on.

• 13:45Speaker 06

  We got a little golf outing? What's happening?

• 13:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

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  Golf outing.

• 13:48Speaker 07

  Yesterday, today, tomorrow. By the way, I'm so sorry about before it. I got so nervous speaking to you guys. That was, my heart was racing.

• 13:56Speaker 06

  Who's the best golfer of you guys?

• 13:58Speaker 00

  The best golfer, uh, is probably Nick. I mean, he just.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's definitely Nick.

• 14:02Speaker 00

  This morning I woke up.

• 14:02Speaker 06

  What's your handicap, Nick?

• 14:03Speaker 07

  About a 7.9 right now.

• 14:06Speaker 06

  About 7.9. Well, it's very.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  2.9 is what really throws me. It's like, how does that one get calculated?

• 14:13Speaker 06

  So you're breaking 80.

• 14:15Speaker 07

  How's your golf game?

• 14:16Speaker 06

  Nonexistent. I, as soon as I found tennis, I, I, I.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  Oh, tennis.

• 14:21Speaker 06

  No, I, I had, uh, I had a 79 the other day. Yeah. Above par in the front nine. In the front nine, yeah. I was about to say, on the front nine. I did go out the other day with my son, this, uh, this local, uh, um, uh, public course in Austin. And I hadn't hit, I hadn't won a club in about a year and a half. And the first six holes, man, I was stiff. But the back nine. Got it together? Well, we didn't finish, but we got through 16 and I was one under on the back nine. So the problem with me and the golf games, I used to be a four handicap. And if I go back and play now, I start to have a few holes where I'm like, ooh, ooh, I still got.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's that, there's that sprinkle of magic, right?

• 15:06Speaker 06

  Right?

• 15:06Speaker 00

  I hate this game. I hate this team.

• 15:07Speaker 06

  Then I, if I go, oh, I'm gonna start grinding. I'm on the range and my wife's going, where the hell are you? Because it, I'll be gone five hours a day. Cause that's all I used to do.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  It's fully consuming.

• 15:18Speaker 00

  Our buddy, our buddy, uh, his dad is, is Dr. Phil. We played with him a couple of years ago and his son was getting so mad trying to get this shot right. And it's, and Dr. Phil looks at him and he goes, son, you're not that good to be that mad.

• 15:32Speaker 06

  Yeah. I told that to your buddy.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  It's the greatest golf court of all.

• 15:37Speaker 06

  I told that to Cole Hauser. We went out and played and he like snapped a club and I was like, dude, you're not good enough to get that pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. That's a good statement. You're not that good to be that mad.

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  Lucky good neighbor, State Farm is there. Hey, Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 16:16Speaker 07

  All right. Who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 16:20Speaker 07

  I think it was.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 16:25Speaker 07

  Changed the game for me.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  It was great.

• 16:26Speaker 07

  All right. Who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 16:30Speaker 00

  That's Kevin.

• 16:31Speaker 07

  Kevin, of course.

• 16:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  That's someone else's job.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Take it, Kev.

• 16:34Speaker 07

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 16:37Speaker 00

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 16:39Speaker 07

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

• 16:46Speaker 00

  Ooh. Ooh. Kevin's, you know what? So I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, just straight after dawn.

• 16:54Speaker 00

  And he usually does it before show.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Just really getting myself going.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  He needs it on stage.

• 16:59Speaker 07

  Okay, last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 17:02Speaker 01

  Well, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

• 17:04Speaker 07

  It is great.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  It's simply because it's really good.

• 17:06Speaker 07

  True. Try almond breeze, trust us, it's really good. You've probably heard that good things come in threes.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  No, I've never heard that.

• 17:13Speaker 07

  Kevin.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors.

• 17:18Speaker 07

  Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, and that is a good one.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  Or because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  There's no three in Kleenex tissues.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend. Listen, Kleenex lotion tissues have three in one, skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes and moisturizes your skin.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 17:39Speaker 07

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 17:41Speaker 01

  You've got a good point.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and aloe.

• 17:46Speaker 07

  Wow, good things really do come in threes.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex.

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• 18:21Speaker 00

  Not only is today's episode sponsored by edible arrangements, they are also bringing us our first bowl question.

• 18:27Speaker 07

  Oh, we're doing the bowl?

• 18:28Speaker 00

  We're doing the bowl.

• 18:29Speaker 07

  All right, let's get into it.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Okay, the question is, what's your chocolate dipped move to show up for someone's birthday?

• 18:36Speaker 07

  That's weirdly specific.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  Feels like there's only really one right answer for this one.

• 18:41Speaker 07

  Edible?

• 18:41Speaker 00

  Edible.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  I mean, Nick did famously send an arrangement to Bob Iger.

• 18:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, sure.

• 18:46Speaker 00

  So you know it's good.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  And they've got a lot more than fresh fruit. Birthday arrangements, baked goods, flowers.

• 18:52Speaker 07

  Chocolate dipped treats.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  A lot of options.

• 18:54Speaker 07

  And if somebody's birthday sneaks up on you.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  Uh-oh. They've got delivery today, tomorrow, or even in an hour.

• 19:01Speaker 00

  Which is great because Kevin's birthday is coming up.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Real soon.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  Very soon.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  I'm getting an arrangement, aren't I?

• 19:07Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 19:07Speaker 07

  We kind of have to.

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  Uh, you know, I'm okay with that.

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  All right. We just answered our first ever edible question.

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  We don't typically like puns, Joe.

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  But we'll allow it.

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  For edible. So if you want to show up with something thoughtful this birthday, edible's the move. Order yours today at edible.com. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I spoke with Dr. Laura Jayhi of Cleveland Clinic about how advanced computing is helping

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  shorten the path from medical discovery to treatment. The moment that there is a compound that someone in a lab thinks it would be effective to treat a certain disease, it takes about 10 to 13 years from that moment to when that drug is on a shelf for a patient. A big part of. That gap could be computationally solved. Better simulation of compounds, designing drug trials that are more efficient, that would finish faster. That was the motivation to bring computational tools and technology closer to biomedical researchers.

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  Learn more about how Cleveland Clinic and IBM are using AI and quantum computing to revolutionize biomedical research at ibm.com/smarttalks.

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  The hack is my daughter's becoming a pretty good golfer. And so now all she wants to do is go out and play. And I'm like, I figured it out. You just get one of your children to be obsessed. And you're there, then I'm on the range or on the course constantly.

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  I'm being a great dad, mom.

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  It's like, I'm just spending time with my daughter.

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  Dad of the year.

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  Oh, we're playing golf? Is it okay that I'm enjoying myself so much? Do you have to do this? Do you have to do this? When you come home, maybe act a little bit like you didn't have as good of a time.

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  Oh, absolutely. It was, it was a little tough out there, you know? Yeah.

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  Had a lot of calls.

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  Especially with her, because she's like, she's that teenage, you know, she's about to be 13. And so she's just like, everything's a big deal, right? And so we're on that new cusp of having a teenager. And so the fact that she's like into something and like kind of obsessed, I'm doubling down. But we're in Scottsdale and we're all golfing. She called me last night and she goes, I'm just so mad at you. And hangs up the phone because she's not here golfing with them. I'm like, the fact that I've gotten to that point makes me so happy.

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  Nice.

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  Now, speaking of, speaking of.

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  Good calling it from the daughter.

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  Speaking of sports, you know, obviously Matthew, we know you're a big, a big football fan. And I'm curious.

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  Huge game the other day.

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  Huge game.

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  Wow, what a comeback.

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  That was, that was something. Do you guys support similar teams as well? Like, how does the, how does the sibling football of, I guess, sports fandom in the household?

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  I got lured into it because of him, but now I do love the team and that's my team. The longhorn.

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  Oh, that's great.

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  You see, you see his move on the sideline? He goes from this to this.

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  Oh, shit.

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  I love the longhorn.

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  Oh, love it.

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  Yeah.

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  Put it on a shirt.

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  He shock us into the horn sign. Yeah. And we play a little tennis together, but he's taken up padel.

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  I love padel. Woody, Woody, what play, please?

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  You play that?

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  I love padel. I think it's, I think it's.

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  So fun, right?

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  It's so fun. Yeah. I mean, I like tennis too, but something about padel, if you get a good partner, you're locked in.

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  Yeah. And it is, it's an exciting game, very fast game. It's not like pickle. Some people, is it like pickle? No, not like pickle.

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  Yeah, I think it's a bit more.

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  Is pickle just ping pong, but just big?

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  It's, it depends. It's, um, yeah, but it's fun.

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  You're a ping pong player too? We gotta play some pong.

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  I'm down. Let us know when.

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  Please.

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  Yeah. Woody's pretty good at pong too. He's ambidextrous. He's like in tennis, he's got a backhand. He's not afraid to just switch the racket to his left hand.

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  Smart.

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  And make it a forehand.

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  Smart play.

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  That's awesome. Well, we got some, we got some good time. Austin's obviously an amazing city. Me and Matthew, you showed me some, showed me some local spots when I was down there a couple of years ago. It was a lot of fun. What do you, what do you, where do you call home?

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  Yeah, I'm, I live in, I live outside of Austin.

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  Okay, great.

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  In the drip, I call it dripping springs.

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  Well, we're excited to get back to Austin. If you guys have any, you have any good recommendations for us now?

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  Let us know, please.

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  Any, any new spots we gotta check out while we're there?

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  Yeah, let us know what you wanted, what you want to do, what you, what you, yeah.

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  I mean, you know.

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  Barbecue. Where's the best barbecue spot?

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  Yeah, what's the best barbecue spot?

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  That's the thing in Austin is that it's hard to find bad barbecue. If you, if you're not serving great barbecue, you're, you're out of a, you lose the lease. I mean, it's kind of a religion down there. And people go, you know, what about Franklin's? It's so famous. Is it not that good? No, it's that good. The brisket is that good. And it got famous on that for good reason. There's a lot of great, there's, there's, I mean, you can't go wrong at a lot of those places.

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  Good to know.

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  Yeah. Salt lick is pretty great.

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  Yeah, salt licks, a lot of people would say no to salt lick. A lot of barbecue aficionados, I mean, but the, but you know, it's a great spot to go.

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  It's cool. Yeah, exactly. Like, it's fun and like, it's a, it's a good vibe for sure.

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  All right. So guys, everybody that we have on the pod, we have them pull a question from our little eight ball here. If you guys are willing, we're gonna pull it for you. Has nothing to do with your career. We don't know what it is. We didn't write it.

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  Please pull it.

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  Let's see what we get. Let's see what we get, shall we? Okay, we're talking about food. This is perfect. If you ever had to enter a competitive eating contest, what food would guarantee your victory?

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  Competitive eating?

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  Competitive eating.

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  Oh.

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  What could you take down?

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  I'd love watermelon. It's a gift from God.

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  With a little tahin.

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  That's awesome.

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  Tahin on there?

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  One of the great gifts from God. Watermelon or mango.

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  Definitely a fruit.

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  You'd go that. I've, I've, he'd probably. I've entered. Take. No, but as far as, I've entered and won a couple of water drinking championships at bars.

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  Water drinking. Okay, break that down for me.

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  I'm a pretty good water drinker. And I've stopped with a 44 ounce cup and five gallons in there next to it and sat up and go, let's go. And won, and won, I've won some money. I won some money in college off of water drinking.

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  Drinking water.

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  Drinking water.

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  See, I never would have thought of this. He's in a bar, but he's having a water drinking contest. It's, it's one of the things that makes him original and unique. He goes to a bar to do a water drinking contest. Well, I'm also having my tequila, but I'm hydrating.

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  Yeah, he's gotta wash, wash down the water with tequila.

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  It breaks it up.

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  We'll go with, we'll go with one more for you guys before we let you go. All right, here we go. What we got here? Hard to open, okay. You wake up tomorrow and you're the only person left on earth. Where are you going first? This actually seems like a movie that either of you have already been in, but yes.

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  Yeah, exactly.

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  Oh, library.

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  Library.

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  Yeah, I mean, if I'm the only person left, I'm just gonna start just, I'm gonna be reading books. Imagine other people, you know?

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  There you go.

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  Like that idea? No, I'm good with that idea. Well, it looks like you were giving me. I'm gonna go to the library. I think I'm gonna wake up and notice how quiet it is. I'm gonna have a good weekend with my, with myself and the animals that are still alive on my property. We're gonna have a throw down. I'm gonna sit there and go, boys and girls, the backyard just got a lot bigger than we ever thought it would be. No passport needed. Throw away the ID.

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  All right, all right, all right.

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  Actually.

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  All right, all right, all right.

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  Perfect.

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  Yeah, man.

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  Guys, thank you so much for being on.

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  Thank you.

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  Great to see you guys as always. Congrats on the show.

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  Thank you.

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  Congrats on brothers.

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  Appreciate y'all. Y'all have a great birthday weekend, man. Love on each other. Have a great time. Have a great time.

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  We'll see you guys in Austin.

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  See you there.

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  Great. I know. Look forward to it.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  That was unbelievable. That was really cool.

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  Special. I feel like we could talk to them about literally anything and they're so genuine. Were you?

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  And their answers are so like interestingly unique. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna go to a library. It's the last place in the world that I would ever say.

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  I like Matthew, I would go with, I'd be like Matthew. I'd be naked in my backyard with a bunch of animals.

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  Throw it down with the animals. So I was trying to talk and I literally got nervous and like lost my words. It's never happened to me before. I had to get up and be like, oh my God, like I had to reset because I don't know, just it was a moment.

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  I clocked that.

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  Thank you for backing me up.

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  I just, I told them you had something stuck in your throat, but I think of anybody, I think these guys would understand. I mean, but you handled yourself really well, but also like.

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  Wow. I get it. I get it.

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  I mean, I was, I was literally talking, I was like, what am I saying? Like, I don't know what, like, edit, yeah. It was a moment.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Well, you handled yourself really well and like you excused yourself and that was, that was good. It wasn't like you're trying to figure out in the moment.

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  What helped you reset?

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  Honestly, you guys supported me in that moment.

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  I wasn't fishing, I was just genuinely wondering, like, because I was trying to figure. Because you, you went over there for two seconds and you were like, just keep it rolling. And then you were like, all right, we're good.

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  I had to just calm my breath and.

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  I finished your sentence. I was just like, okay, we'll figure this out. And also that happens, right? It doesn't matter what or where you are in your career. There's gonna be moments, and it could have been Matthew McConaughey and Woody, or it could have just been a buddy of ours. Sometimes people get, you get anxious, you get a little over, overcome with like, oh, what? You know, lost for words, but.

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  Yeah. Well, I think appreciate you backing me up.

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  Of course, we got you always.

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  We got you.

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  We're fam.

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  We're brothers.

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  We're brothers. And they are too, apparently.

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  Yeah. And on that note, bye bye.

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  Bye bye.

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  I just want you to stop saying odd shit.

• 28:50Speaker 04

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