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  Ooh, um, Kevin's, you know what? So I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

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  Yeah, straight up to down.

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  And he usually does it before show.

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  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

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  Jonas.

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  It's a big day, boys.

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  Why?

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  Cause today's August 20th, which means tonight's night one of Madison Square Garden for us.

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  Oh my goodness, um, so how have you guys been?

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  Burning up tour all over again.

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  How have you guys been prepping this morning? I want to know exactly what you're doing.

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  I got my nails done, I got a face gym.

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  Got a face gym? Tell people what face gym, they don't know what that is.

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  Okay, so a face gym is essentially a massage.

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  A gym for your face.

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  A gym for your face. It's a massage for your face, but they do like lymphatic drainage, they do a little electric stimulus.

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  I don't like that part of it.

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  I like when my face twitches, it's great.

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  I don't love that feeling. You know, I got a good night's rest and what made it, I wanted to have it.

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  You went home.

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  I wanted, I've been, my apartment in New York is so nice. And I've been like very grateful to still have it, because I did put it on the market. But I'm like, one, it's nice to have a place to stay in New York and a place of my own. You know, a nice morning, made my coffee, made breakfast, just like relaxing, put on some records. Girl, put your records on.

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  It's great way to start your day.

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  And then, you know.

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  Worked out this morning too. Did you work out this morning?

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  Did I work out this morning? Yeah, so about four, six hours. And then I, there's a tradition for any New York based show. I ride a bike or walk to the venue.

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  Hey, you know what else is happening is that we announced that the Burning Up Tour All Over Again is coming to a city near you.

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  That's right.

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  And the public on sale is this Friday, August 21st, which is tomorrow.

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  Yeah.

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  Can't wait, it's gonna be fun. We have a lot of new music, we have a lot of new ideas for this tour.

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  And also a lot of the things we've done in the past, which is even the reason for the tour.

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  We found all the stuff, we're putting it on tour with us.

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  Yeah, bring it on.

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  Okay, so we have a guest today, he's incredible. He's had one of the craziest, I think, five-year runs.

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  Moonshot.

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  Meteoric rises here. Meteoric as in, you know.

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  All the way up.

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  Like a meteor flying through the sky. You know, the first time someone wrote that about us, it was in 2006 or '07, they're like, they're on a meteoric rise. And I was like, I seem like we're mediocre, but it's too close. Meteoric is a very, very positive thing and, um, you know, this guest is the living example of that. His podcast is one of the biggest in the world. He is one of the most recognizable online personalities, also launching an acting career with his guest spot on season four of Hacks, as well as a Broadway run most recently, and many more things to come. Please welcome our friend, our guest, Jake Shane.

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  I don't know if he realizes he's been sharing his location with me for like six, five years.

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  What? That's amazing.

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  Hi Jake.

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  You have my location?

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  I've had your location for like five years.

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  How does that happen? How did that happen?

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  I don't know, I think the first, I think we were hanging out in New York.

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  And you shared me your location so I could come meet you. And I was like, I'm so happy I have this location, then he never unshared it. And then I was like, I guess I never got out of your mind.

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  Sharing your location? No, he's been sharing, you've been sharing yours.

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  So you just went on Euro summer and then cut you off.

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  But now it says no location found, so.

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  First of all, I got a new phone and a new iCloud in February. And Joe texted me and was like, where is your location? And I said, oh my God.

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  All right, no, it's all good, I'm just gonna stop sharing location then.

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  No, my location is still shared with you, please.

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  It doesn't show, it shows your, it shows nothing from you.

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  Okay, well, I'll fix it, but don't act irrationally.

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  Okay, fine.

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  That's so, it's so intimate sharing your location.

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  But it's great, because it really does show like, oh my God, this person's right by me and you had no idea and you just walk around the corner.

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  But also, if anything goes wrong, it's nice to know who's around. And you know, and you know, it's like, somebody's like, where's Jake? And be like, does anybody have a location? And it's like, I do!

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  So like, who's the coolest person you share a location with other than Joe Jonas?

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  I used to share locations with everybody, and then I got a new phone and I lost all my locations.

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  It's a great excuse, Jake.

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  I, I, I share locations with my best friend, Alice.

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  Right.

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  Louise, she doesn't share hers back.

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  That's not a friend.

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  The no share back is, it's, I have a couple I don't, I don't share all of them back, but I do share my location with you Jake. Cause it is fun when we're like, you know, there's occasional times I'll just get a text from Jake and he'll be like, where are you? I see you're in New York, what's the plans? But it's always fun when you just will call out somebody and be like, order the shrimp. Just to freak him out. I wouldn't do that because I'm allergic to shrimp, but the, you know, if I were to eat shrimp.

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  I'm actually allergic to shellfish.

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  And crustaceans, yeah.

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  Crustaceans, I have that word, like, I can't.

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  It's a bad word. What are some words you just despise? I'm just curious.

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  I hate crustaceans.

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  Moist, that's one that can't.

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  I don't mind, you know what? The only word that really gets me is crustaceans and I don't like, um, the word maggot, which is unfortunate because I love that Olivia Rodrigo song, Maggots for Brains.

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  It's a great song.

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  It's a great song, great album.

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  Song, great album.

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  I think it's the best album of the year.

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  I also.

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  I think it's so good. I've actually been working out to it on the reg, shout out Olivia, it's fantastic. I think what she did with the production with Dan Aykroyd was phenomenal. And also the lyrics are just next level good.

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  Yeah, she's so talented.

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  It also like tells such a chronological story. Like you feel like watching a movie as you listen to the album from start to finish.

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  She's next level.

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  Next level.

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  It is so good to see you. We had the most epic New York night together. We were at game four of the Knicks comeback.

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  Oh my God.

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  They're in the box together, how could you forget?

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  But I was like, when did I go out? I forgot, I always forget I was at that game.

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  We were at the game to be at.

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  That's pretty wild.

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  It was.

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  For those that are listening, New York Knicks are a basketball team in the New York area. They just won the World Series.

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  Yeah.

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  It was, I remember being like, alright, like I like basketball, but like, see what we can get into. And I left that be Knicks.

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  You're a fan now, you bought the jersey.

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  With a jersey.

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  The adrenaline was so insanely high in that place, like people didn't leave for an hour.

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  I was in London and I was so jealous because, yeah, the games were on at the time, it was, it was too late to watch. And I couldn't keep my eyes open. And I saw your videos, both of you, and that box looked stacked.

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  It was a.

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  It was very fun.

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  Let's, let's drop some names, who are we talking about? Who's in this big box of yours?

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  The entire starting line of the New York Giants, like three of them, at least.

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  Big boys.

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  My God, they were.

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  Yeah.

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  And the thing is, I don't know anything about football. They're like, yeah, we play on the Giants.

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  Jackson Dart, it's Cam Scataboo, Theo John.

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  Well, you know Jake, all your favorites.

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  One of them was like, what do you do? He was like, I'm the quarterback.

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  But when they got so pumped, they forgot that we are not, I am not a football player. They threw me across the box. It was too much, it was great though.

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  Just being like, huh huh huh.

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  There's like, ah, like throw you.

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  And who else? Okay, who else was there?

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  Hailey Bieber, Tabe and Craig, who I went with.

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  It's like Popstar Magazine.

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  It was.

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  Did you read Popstar Magazine back in the day?

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  Of course I did. I read Popstar Magazine, I read J14, I read Tiger Beat, I read.

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  J14 were great.

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  Tiger Beat was always a little bit more spicy.

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  Oh, they, they were like.

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  Kevin loved doing those photo shoots.

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  Tiger Beat always was always like, they like pushed it to print really last minute. J14 was thought out.

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  It was like real journalism.

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  It was real hard hitting journalism. Every quiz I took was always very accurate. Did you guys ever take quizzes of yourself?

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  Yes, you know, I would go on the BuzzFeed for fun, just to see if I got myself.

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  Did you?

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  I'm just very Leo energy, but I'm like, you know, which brother are you similar to? I'd be like, let's see how well they know, and I'm like, damn it, they were good. But of course, it's like all the things I like.

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  BuzzFeed, BuzzFeed used to have a good one. They used to have good ones. What flavor Gatorade are you drinking right now?

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  It is.

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  Blue, that's the best one.

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  Frost.

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  It's the only one, I can see orange, I don't like lemon lime.

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  I don't hate it. I can get behind it if I really need to.

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  What do you think about when people just say the color? They're like, can I have, can I have yellow?

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  Blue?

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  Oh, here's the thing, is which blue are you talking about? Are you talking about dark blue? Are you talking about glacier freeze? Are you talking about cold and light?

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  Freeze that, I've been watching this guy and it just, I get so uncomfortable. He does the thing where he fills up a whole glass and then like one gulp, he drinks.

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  Yeah.

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  It's cold, he drinks like the coldest drinks possible and he drinks a freezing cold, uh, what was it called? The blue one, the cold blue one.

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  Glacier freeze.

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  Glacier freeze. And he does that and he just mixed it with milk and I couldn't look away. I couldn't look away.

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  It's like when you have like a mint addiction like me and then you drink anything cold and it feels like your mouth is gonna fall off.

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  Yeah.

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  Now what's up with that? Wait, did you say you have a mint addiction?

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  Yeah, I, yeah.

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  He's going through a pack. It out towards this whole night. We just.

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  It's a, you know what it was? It, I, it, yeah, I was a guy that liked to vape a lot and then I quit and then so I do that, I guess.

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  You vaped?

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  Yeah, I've been pretty.

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  Kevin's a bad boy. I should make him a little cooler, but he never smoked cigs. He just went straight to vaping. So confusing.

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  What?

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  I gave up in 2019, but I was like early jewel.

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  For Tiger B Magazine.

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  Oh my God. I mean, but who could resist?

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  Do the crackle when the crack, when you hear someone with the crackle, like literally shiver. See, he gets it. He knows. We have somebody that works with us that still smokes one and it kills me every day.

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  Were you mango or were you mango or mint?

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  Oh dude, I was just straight mint all day. It was so good.

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  All day.

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  But the light green, the light green though.

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  Yeah.

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  Alright, guys, come back to us. Hold on, hold on.

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  Come back to us.

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  There it is. The bat and the cold freezing Gatorade.

• 11:58Speaker 04

  He wants sound effects.

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  I got so, what do you want? I got so many over here. If we're gonna get spicy, we can really, you know.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  Ooh, well, do you guys watch SFEU?

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  Honestly, I'm just, my brain only likes clips these days. So if I'm gonna watch something, it's gonna be on TikTok and I wanna like, I want the best of.

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  Oh, uh, though.

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  You love it or no?

• 12:18Speaker 04

  Well, like frustrating that we like.

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  I know, our brain, yeah, yeah. We're the problem. Well, do you watch it? What's, what are you watching? What's, what's on your, what's on your iPad?

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  Literally words out of my mouth. What, what are you guys watching on TV?

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  Well, this is our podcast, okay? And this is our turn to ask you questions.

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  Sorry, I'm sorry.

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  I know. You're like, when you're a massive podcast or you just can't help it.

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  For one second, I had a great time on your podcast. I really enjoyed.

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  I had such a good time having you.

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  Great hang.

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  As did I.

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  Phenomenal and, and.

• 12:46Speaker 04

  And then it's your turn.

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  Kevin's next. You guys can just do a whole vaping episode. I was gonna say Kevin's next.

• 12:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, and we'll get like really old jewels.

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  Oh.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Oh, I guess.

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  The good stuff. The good stuff. Like the OG.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Buy them on eBay. Is that the scene from Wolf of Wall Street? It's like the good quaaludes.

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  Straight up.

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  Um.

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  So what are you watching?

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  I'm watching, I'm watching Silo.

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  So good.

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  Season three.

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  I just was talking to somebody about this. This is kind of embarrassing, but I was on Zoom just like before this, before we were downstairs hanging out. Um, and it was just like a general meeting and I was like, maybe just not propping it. And then I realized the people that produced it were on the call. What'd you say?

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  Oh, yeah, that makes me so happy.

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  By the way, is very valid.

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  I was just like, okay, I was just like, I don't know, guys, we're on, thank you for seeing me. I was just like, I don't know, we're on season three, we're still in this damn silo. And then we're like, yeah, yeah, well, that's just a really fun project for us to work on. I was like, oh.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  No, no, no. What are we doing? Why are we?

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  Are we back? Are we back in the damn silo?

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  She got out, now she's back.

• 13:57Speaker 04

  I mean, that I could have.

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  She doesn't have a memory. I'm like, oh, guys.

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  I know.

• 14:01Speaker 04

  Only thing that kept me watching was at the end of season two, when they had the, the flashback to the present day.

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  Oh.

• 14:08Speaker 04

  But if I could find out what is going on in the present day.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  They keep going back to it. It's taking too long. It's like, I'm, guys, I get it, but what happened? Why are we in a damn silo? And why is, why is there 400 of them?

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  I'm the guy that wants to see the nuke hit, like, like in the show. Like, I wanna see the, the thing that caused the catastrophe.

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  Yeah, I don't, I'm, I'm like, come on.

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  Give me Doomsday.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. Like, where's the nuke? What happened? Like, show it to me.

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  I need to know.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  But you know who did an excellent, excellent job of that? Paradise.

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  We just finished the second season, uh, me and Danielle and my, that's my wife. Um, and she, we loved it. We went through the entire thing. We liked the first season. We loved the second season.

• 14:50Speaker 04

  I loved both, but I liked the first season, like did things to me I didn't know were possible.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  We started Sterling Point last night.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  Okay, I started it yesterday as well. It's about a girl who like finds out she inherits an island.

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  Oh, fun. I'm waiting for that to happen.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  In Canada. The island's in Canada.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  Well.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  It's on a lake. It's that really rich lake town here.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

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  Canadian islands.

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  Muskoka.

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  We have a huge Canadian islands, Kevin.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Have you ever been to Muskoka? It looks incredible.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  You see, he's backtracking now. This is what he does.

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  You'll find out when I do your podcast.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Alright, so you're watching Silo. What else?

• 15:27Speaker 04

  I'm watching Silo. I just started The Agency with Michael Fassbender.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  Fantastic show. Probably one of the.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  It's amazing because I loved Homeland and it's giving Homeland.

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  It's giving Homeland and he's just the best.

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  He's so good in it.

• 15:39Speaker 02

  That show is, I think, one of the best out there.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  Really? The Agency?

• 15:43Speaker 02

  It gets so good.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  Okay, okay, okay. I'm on episode two.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  In the words of Jake Shane, it did things to me that I didn't think were possible.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  Right. I'm sat, I'm here and I'm ready. Well, I finished Widows Bay.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I love that too. That was so good.

• 15:56Speaker 01

  But back to Sterling Point. What do you think so far? I'm in episode two. Were you into episode?

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  I'm on episode two as well.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  We're at the same place. Where, what do you feel is happening in your life with this? Cause honestly, I got a little like, am I gonna continue?

• 16:10Speaker 04

  Am I watching it Sunday or no? That is the question. If I'm watching it Sunday, I'm just raw talking the whole thing.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't like to wait for shows anymore. That's the problem.

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  Let me ask you a question, Jake. Are you watching on the go or at home?

• 16:25Speaker 04

  Okay, so I'm, I'm a TV guy, but I don't hate a computer watch. I don't hate a computer watch. Sometimes I'll pop it open and do my little thing and.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  We were talking about this the other day because we had, I had a, because of Widows Bay, the lead actor, Matthew Rees, is an iconic show that I've never seen, The Americans. So I started, I've been, I started that season and I was talking to these guys about it and the like, that, that episode seven, I think it was, of season one, a lot of sexy scenes. And, you know, this is like HBO, I think. So they're showing everything. I'm on a flight and there's a bunch of kids around me. So I was like, duh. So you're doing like the, I'm not gonna stop watching, but I'm also gonna like oddly feel uncomfortable with, you know, watching in front of them. So.

• 17:07Speaker 00

  Has this happened to you?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Yes, I was getting an IV the other day and I was watching, oh my God, I was watching Industry and they were like. And I was literally like, and she was like, it's okay.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Oh, that's the worst too. You're like, oh no, sorry. Then you're like, do I pause it? Well, I can't, like, she knows I'm watching this. They're watching.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  Your cortisol levels went the wrong direction.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  We can't find the veins, sir.

• 17:32Speaker 04

  I was like, I don't even wanna see it. But I do. It's like to go back.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:38Speaker 04

  Uh, but yeah, I'm also watching Industry, best show on TV.

• 17:41Speaker 00

  It's a great show.

• 17:42Speaker 02

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• 17:44Speaker 01

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• 17:47Speaker 00

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• 17:49Speaker 01

  I was thinking more like a horror movie subscription, but sure.

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• 18:03Speaker 02

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• 18:04Speaker 01

  Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Hey, Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  Alright, who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

• 18:13Speaker 01

  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  I think it was.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  Changed the game for me.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  Alright, who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 18:24Speaker 02

  That's Kevin.

• 18:24Speaker 00

  Kevin, of course.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  That's someone else's job.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  Take it, Kev.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 18:31Speaker 02

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking?

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Ooh, um, Kevin's, you know what? So I found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, just straight up the dome.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  And he usually does it before show.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, just really getting myself going.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  He needs it on stage.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  Okay, last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative.

• 18:58Speaker 00

  It is great.

• 18:59Speaker 02

  It's simply because it's really good.

• 19:00Speaker 00

  True. Try almond breeze. Trust us, it's really good. You've probably heard that good things come in threes.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  No, I've never heard that.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  Kevin. Yeah, you have. You've got bacon, lettuce, tomato, rock, paper, scissors.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  Joe, Nick, Kevin.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that is a good one.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Or because it's cold season, Kleenex lotion tissues.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  There's no three in Kleenex tissues.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  That's where you're wrong, Kev, my friend. Listen, Kleenex lotion tissues have three in one skin-loving benefits. It protects hands, soothes and moisturizes your skin.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  I never realized you were so into skincare, Joe.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  Come on, who doesn't love to moisturize?

• 19:35Speaker 01

  You've got a good point.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  Oh, and don't forget to tell them about the three thick layers made with coconut oil and olive.

• 19:40Speaker 00

  Wow, good things really do come in threes.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  For whatever happens next, grab Kleenex.

• 19:45Speaker 00

  Alright, let's back it up a little bit. Just give everybody some context on our relationship. So I guess this is what, 2021 or two?

• 19:53Speaker 04

  Three.

• 19:54Speaker 00

  Three, okay, 23. I clocked a video of yours, responded to.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  I put it on Nick's radar.

• 20:01Speaker 00

  Incorrect. You cannot take credit for that one. I found this on my own.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  You found, you found him on your own.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  The first to duet it.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, but I think I saw it first.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  And then Joe responded, Kevin got involved. And then, then, you know, the last couple of years have been incredible to watch your, your career just absolutely explode.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  All because of you guys.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  And that's not because of us.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 20:23Speaker 00

  Did it all on your own because you're a star.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  Oh, it's true. We'll take credit. Hey, you know what? All because of this.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  It is because of you guys.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  No, it's because you've been working so hard for so many years, even since you were a young kid. Obviously with theater.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Also because of your personality and your overall vibe. You, I'm gonna get sentimental for a moment. You have a light about you. You have a light that brings everyone that comes in your atmosphere a lot of joy.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  And comfort. I feel like people feel safe around you.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  And also I think it's to when we first met in person at the Jimmy Fallon show, I was like, I think it was there, maybe somewhere else. I said, you, you're very smart. Like your comedy is really smart, intentional.

• 21:02Speaker 04

  I remember you saying that to me. And I remember being like, that was the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  Well, really great comedy, you have to be really sharp and you are, which is why it is so great to have you on our pod. We're, you know, we're new to this pod game. You've been doing it for a bit now.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  You've been crushing it.

• 21:21Speaker 00

  How many episodes in are you? And, and who's your dream guest?

• 21:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  Dream podcast guest?

• 21:31Speaker 04

  Podcast? I've done 136 episodes.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  Wow. So awesome. While that you, well, I guess they're numbered. I was like, how do you know that?

• 21:38Speaker 04

  Because I just told someone 20 minutes ago, because they were like, how many episodes have you recorded?

• 21:42Speaker 02

  Right. You're like, I should probably know this.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  But my dream podcast guest?

• 21:47Speaker 02

  You've gotten quite a few of those dreamers, too.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, I would have said Kylie was a dream and it happened and she was like, that was literally like.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  The Birkin comment.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  The thirst trap comment, though, is like, I see it all the time. It's so good.

• 22:02Speaker 04

  It was the best day of my life. Like she.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  What was the best part about it? Tell us. It was a spill.

• 22:07Speaker 04

  I was like, she, like, growing up to me was like the coolest person in the world and still is. So like being able to hang out with who I think is the coolest person in the world and have them be so nice to me and so warm and inviting. You're like, oh, this is why everyone loves you so much, was just like the best. She was so funny. I laughed so hard. We got drunk.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Funny.

• 22:29Speaker 04

  It was so, but my dream guest is probably, well, it's Taylor Swift or Jennifer Lawrence.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Jennifer Lawrence is very funny. Very.

• 22:37Speaker 00

  We share a birthday, August 15th.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  You guys share a birthday.

• 22:40Speaker 04

  Wow, do you really?

• 22:40Speaker 00

  We do.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  Oh, what are you doing for your birthday?

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Hanging out with Jennifer Lawrence. No, we are, I actually don't know. And these guys.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  Actually, I'm not sure which coast you're on right now, but Joe doesn't have your location anymore, so we don't know.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  You're in LA?

• 22:54Speaker 04

  I will reshare it after this. I don't know what happened.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  You guys' location broke up.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  Oh, I'm in, I'm on the East Coast.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, you did say like, it was like, just the beginning of this podcast was like running into an ex. You were like, oh, I got a new phone and iCloud and I'm like, that's fine.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  I did. I used to share an iCloud with my father for 25 years, 26 years.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Oh, family plan.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  No, it was just like he would get my texts. He'd be like, why is Peyton texting me about going out tonight?

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a, that's a dangerous game. Oh, boy.

• 23:23Speaker 04

  It was, yes.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  That's very funny. Wasn't, yeah, I think your, Kevin's sister-in-law got all of my contacts somehow one day.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  Though, we're still baffled by this.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  There was a lot of, there was a lot of names that he was like, well, this, she was like, I don't know this person.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  It was just all his contact list just transferred to her phone one day when we were all hanging out.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  You know, we're not really sure. Some funny names in there.

• 23:48Speaker 00

  I'm sure. Am I right to say, did your dad write Disney Channel shows?

• 23:54Speaker 04

  He wrote one.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  Smart House? No.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  He wrote a draft of Smart House, the first Doctor Smart House, and they ended up with another person.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 24:05Speaker 04

  He wrote this movie called Model Behavior.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Oh, Model Behavior, that's right.

• 24:09Speaker 04

  And he wrote a Mary Kate and Ashley movie called Switching Goals.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Switching Goals, an iconic classic.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Wow. Wow. Our, we have a, our friend Paris is the biggest Mary Kate and Ashley fan in the world. It'd be a great guest for you, too.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  The, the best thing about them is they've never, ever, I haven't heard them speak in what feels like 30 years.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  I know. They don't, they don't speak.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  But we definitely buy their stuff.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Not everybody. Not everybody.

• 24:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. So your parents now, so they obviously, they gotta be so proud of you and excited for all that's going on in your life and career. Do they like have any input? Because he's from the industry. Is he like giving you thoughts and ideas of it?

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Yes. And sometimes I hate it a lot. It's just like.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  Like he's pitching bits, maybe?

• 24:57Speaker 04

  No, he's just.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  Like, or is it more like career?

• 25:00Speaker 04

  Sometimes he'll give me, give me like the best advice I've ever heard in my entire life, like that I take to, like, like, like, for example, the other week I was like really crashing out about something and he told, I think he told Zach, my manager, who told me, I don't even know why he didn't tell me, but he was like, I worried about being respected too much early in my career that it hindered me later, instead of just doing things that worked and things I was good at. And like not caring about the respect aspect. And that really hindered me. And then Zach told me that and I was like, oh my God. Wow, that like completely just changed the way I like looked at my whole week.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  It's a great advice.

• 25:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. He's also like, like, well, you guys know this, you've been, doesn't your dad like work with you guys in some capacity?

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Well, kind of once and always, right? That's how it is in family business. But he was our manager for a long time. And then there was a time where dad took over and he was just dad. It was, that was great.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  And then now we work with him again on various projects. We have a family restaurant, so we work with him in that.

• 26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Yes. Southern food.

• 26:11Speaker 00

  Southern food.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Comfort food, actually.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Well, we had, we had, we had two locations, but we're gonna, they're opening more. It's pretty wild. But you were saying, sorry, go ahead.

• 26:20Speaker 04

  No, but that's it. He gives me really good advice in that sense. My mom gives me very good advice in terms of like writing and like, because she's a journalist, so like, and I'm not one, but sometimes I have to, like, I'm in a situation where like, it's required, like I have to like be able to like ask proper questions and she'll be very helpful on that front.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  That's great. Well, I feel like, I mean, to that point, I, I feel like there's a thing you spoke about, because I don't remember like after, was it the, it was after an award show and there was, I got so frustrated for you because people were like coming for you about not being a journalist and all this. And you were like, I'm not a journalist. And I, and I think it was an interview that you said around the same time. You're like, never said, never, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're like.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  That was odd. That was actually odd.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  I was, because I was thinking, I'm like, you said, I remember the timeframe and just maybe you can walk us or the listener through, like, you had an interview where you were like, I'm not a journalist. And then you did the interview and you guys were great. You were so funny. And I loved it because I'm like, yeah, this is what people want to watch and digest. They want people to have conversations, not just like, ask about the project they're doing 99% of the time. So please walk us through that, like for you, that experience.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Well, one of the main criticisms was that it was like bring real journalists back to the carpet. And I had said a week prior that I wasn't one. But then I think the underlying thing in that was that a lot of people just like really found me annoying, which is totally valid. I find so many people annoying, but then started to use that as a front to just be like, I don't like him. And so that's where I think I got frustrated a bit because it came as sort of like, he's just annoying. And it's like, well, yeah. But that's not a valid criticism.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, it's when you're arguing or when, and when we were growing up, somebody would just say something mean to us or like still, they'd just say something mean. It's like, that's just, you just don't like me. That's fine. But like, that's not a good joke. Like, your bit's not a bit because you're just saying, I don't like this person. It's like, okay, well, I can sleep at night knowing you don't like me. I don't care. But to like use it as a tool and be like, he's not a real journalist, which was like ridiculous.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Oh, that, that was like, that was my first week dealing with any sort of like mass criticism in that sense. And now I, well, actually, I was about to say I feel well-equipped to deal with it. I don't. I never want that to happen ever again.

• 28:50Speaker 00

  Never feels good. I mean, I think that there is always some learning from it and the ability to like look at it after you've gone through the hurt of a situation. And listen, someone could look at this and go, oh, they're talking about hurts. Like we're, you're still a human being. You can feel a certain way about a situation. But after you've gotten through that piece of it, you learn something about yourself and how to approach it next time. And I do think that, that, you know, it, to, to your point you just made, I appreciate your honesty in that it's like, it never feels good. It's like, I don't want to experience that again.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sucks.

• 29:20Speaker 04

  And I mean, I know that I can now, but I don't want to ever again.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  It's never fun. No. What is your, what is your like process when something like that? I mean, I guess it's a learning curve. Like, do you speak to somebody? Do you, who's the first person you call or?

• 29:36Speaker 04

  Louise. I woke up and Louise said, um, oh my God, like just rest today. Everything's canceled. And I said, what?

• 29:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're like, uh, excuse me.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  And I Googled my name because, well, I always Google my name, but also because I had posted the thing last night and I wanted to see what people were saying, if there was anything. And I was like, oh, I'm going back to bed. And so I got an IV with Benadryl, knocked me out for like six hours. Woke up, was still miserable and then went to bed, woke up. And then it got worse the following day. And then eventually, like on Thursday,

• 30:20Speaker 04

  I was like, okay, I feel fine. You know what actually made me feel fine? Was I had a guest come on the show that week in like the midst of it. And I thought they were gonna cancel and they didn't cancel. And once I realized that they didn't cancel and they still showed up and I can still do my job, I was like, okay, I'm fine. Like if I can still do my job and have people show up and do, do, just like keep it moving. I'm be fine.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  It's also like a healthy reminder too, like we all are in our own bubble. And even though it feels like sometimes everybody's talking about this one thing, or it's like, this is all that matters. Sometimes just going back to the thing that makes you happy and remind yourself like, oh, like, okay, that was like a moment in, I like, look, somebody once said to all of us, like, look way back and like, if your life was just like a string, it's like, that was a blip of your lifespan of like a moment that maybe is defining and it matters.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  But it's like how you deal with it. And also sometimes you gotta get back on the horse and go do the thing you love and remind yourself, I'm good at this. I make people happy. It's not for everybody and that's fine.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Also, back to what you were saying, that's actually the advice my mom usually gives me. She's like, nobody is like, she's always told me this since I was a kid, cause I'm always so like self absorbed. And she's like, nobody is thinking about you. Nobody's thinking about you. That's what she always tells me. No one cares. No one cares about you. No one's thinking about you. Just keep it moving.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  I am, well, I am looking at your location. Okay. You could tell your mother.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  That you are. In general, like.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  I had the same similar thing where somebody said to me about, um, like, yeah, no one's going to bed being like, I can't believe Joe Jonas just did that. They're thinking about themselves typically. What time I'm waking up? What am I having for breakfast? Uh, did I set my alarm correctly?

• 32:19Speaker 01

  We're all selfish as we all are selfish.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it's like, that's a healthy, most people should be that way.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 32:26Speaker 02

  Stuff.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Um, speaking of your own stuff, natural segue. Um, how was the Broadway experience? Last time we spoke, you were just about to go do it.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 32:36Speaker 04

  Uh, it was the best experience of my life. Having that routine of doing, oh yeah, I spoke to you right before I did it.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  You were leaving like the next day, I think.

• 32:46Speaker 04

  Yeah. Eight shows a week and just like having, and getting like really like getting feeling like

• 32:56Speaker 04

  good every single night, like feeling like, okay, I worked. I did something fun. I got to do it with fun people. And I got to have like immediate reception of people being like, yay, like good job. And like, that felt good. So like mentally, I mentally, I was in a really good space.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  You probably prepped for it too, based on your, your show that you toured with, with the podcast, to kind of that live theater experience, but then to translate that to Broadway was probably wild.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  No, that first night I walked on stage and my whole, cause I can't control it. When I get really anxious, my whole body was shaking. Every part, I could barely sit down because every single person in my life came on opening night and.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  And it's always like a thing that you don't really think about. You're like, oh yeah, night one's gotta be, I invite everybody, cause I wanna have a big after party and be so fun and celebratory. And you're like, oh my gosh, this is like.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Everyone I know is ever here.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  My life is flashing before my eyes. Why is my dentist here?

• 33:54Speaker 04

  Louise, Louise saw it, I think 12 times.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  Wow. That's supportive.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  So awesome.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  I know.

• 34:01Speaker 02

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• 34:23Speaker 02

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• 34:24Speaker 01

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• 34:26Speaker 02

  Hey, Jonas is brought to you by Almond Breeze. It's time for some questions from the producers.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  All right.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  Who started drinking Almond Breeze almond milk first?

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Actually, I think that was you, Nick.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  I think it was.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. You're like, you know, guys, I tried this almond breeze in my coffee today.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Changed the game for me. All right. Who's the most likely to finish the last carton of almond breeze and not replace it?

• 34:44Speaker 01

  That's Kevin.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Kevin, of course.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  That's someone else's job.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Take it, Kev.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  What's the most random place you drank almond breeze?

• 34:50Speaker 01

  The last time I visited the Empire State Building.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Ah, that's a random place for sure. I've noticed you guys really like almond breeze almond milk. Who has the most specific way of drinking it?

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  Ooh. Um, Kevin's, you know what? So I've found very interesting is how you will drink a carton to yourself.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, straight up the dome.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  And he usually does it before show.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Just really getting myself going.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  He needs it on stage. Okay. Last question. Why do you guys like almond breeze so much?

• 35:15Speaker 01

  Oh, it just tastes great. It's a great alternative. It is great.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  It's simply because it's really good.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  True.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  Try almond breeze. Trust us. It's really good.

• 35:23Speaker 01

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• 35:31Speaker 02

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• 35:59Speaker 02

  Um, all right. We have a couple of callers that called in asking for advice. We are, you know, we've got no credentials to be able to answer these questions.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  Neither do I.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  You know, we're gonna do it anyway, cause it's our pod. This kind of started just from our fans calling in and we were like, hey, we don't wanna answer questions about ourselves. We do that quite a bit. And then people just took that literal and they started asking us for advice or thoughts or comments. And sometimes you're anonymous and we don't know what they're coming from. So this is something you're familiar with, but I feel like it's, uh, it's become its own thing. So anyway, shall we roll a voicemail and see what we got?

• 36:34Speaker 01

  Let's see.

• 36:35Speaker 05

  My name's Emily and I was just looking for advice because my coworker has been flirting with me for a year and a half. And I finally told him I had feelings for him and he does not feel the same. So just any advice on how the hell I'm supposed to handle that. Love you guys. Bye.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  This, uh, they've got a dude or something. They've got a partner. It's giving like they're being naughty.

• 36:59Speaker 04

  No, cause she would have said they had, they said they had a boyfriend or a girlfriend. I think nothing.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  I think I quit my job.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Upmost psychosis I've ever experienced in my entire life. Like I would never leave my house ever again.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  You flirted with me and then now you're not interested?

• 37:18Speaker 04

  Oh my God, I would be angry. I would go through all stages of grief. I would be angered. Did not, I'd be like, no, no, no, it can't be like I ever, oh my God.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  I'd be like, this was your plan all along. You just, I think they just wanted to know if they had the game. They're like, can I just do the chase enough?

• 37:34Speaker 04

  I would, I would literally be like, wait, what?

• 37:36Speaker 01

  They were looking for a work wife, not a real wife.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Like LOL, you know what? I would take them to court.

• 37:44Speaker 04

  I love these sounds like you had that.

• 37:46Speaker 02

  We'll take them, we'll take them to couples court or work court. First of all, or just take them, take them to HR.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Wow. Oh, I like that.

• 37:54Speaker 04

  You could go HR or you could hold out hope for the holiday party and just like really hope that like.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Wait, first of all, that's a rom com, Christmas rom com right there.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  I've got it.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  Hold out for the holiday party?

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Listen, listen.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  Work party?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Hold out hope is the name of the movie.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's a whole, it's a whole setup where she like, she like plays this game with her coworker. She's like, I'm gonna hold out on following in love with this guy. And the bet, and the bet is, she's like, I bet you before, before the Christmas party, you'll fall in love.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Is Hope her name?

• 38:27Speaker 01

  Hope's her name.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. Hold out hope is perfect. Now we're in, now we're sold. Yeah. Me and Jake said the same thing. We're like, wait, if Hope's her name, we're in.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  And she holds out falling in love, not hold out like sex, like falling in love.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  But why not?

• 38:39Speaker 04

  But like maybe a little bit of that too.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, why not?

• 38:41Speaker 02

  It's 2026.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  And you know what?

• 38:42Speaker 02

  And then act two should be called Hold Back Hope, cause that's when she's about to like beat his ass.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, really good.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  This became a slasher.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  And it's a Christmas slasher.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Slasher. We love it.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  A holiday slasher.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  That's what we all like. Okay. Let's roll the next one. That's a good advice. Just be mad.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  Be mad.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  And go to HR.

• 39:00Speaker 06

  Hey guys, my name's Megan from Texas. I was just wondering how you guys as adults do with making friends. I feel like this generation right now has a really hard time with making friends. And you know, in college, they set up groups and places where you'd go to meet people and it was so easy. But now living in a new city on your own, it's kind of hard to make friends. Even going to like a church and everything, it's still kind of difficult. So as an adult, how do you make like real friendships?

• 39:27Speaker 04

  I've actually found this to be the summer of making new friends. I've made so many friends this summer, which I never do. And I think it's because I started leaving my house a bit more and like going out to like this, no matter what, like what city she's in, like I'm sure she has a friend that has a friend that lives there. She could go out with that friend and then they'll go out to the bar with those friends' friends. And then she'll meet friends with one of the friends' friends. And that's how you make friends.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  I think you've gotta get out of the house. Gotta go do stuff.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  Like step out.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  There's not always like gonna be a group that you're gonna like, cause I think sometimes the problems with like, like you look online, you're like this, like, um, it's the, the bowling league or whatever. And it's like, I don't like bowling. I don't wanna go bowling. I'm not gonna sign up for everything. You just gotta go walk around, get, you know?

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. I have a question for the group here. More just a, just a, you know, a qualifier sorts. What number of hangouts with somebody do you go, that's my friend?

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Oh, there's a study about, there's actually a study about this. And I think it's like, there's a, like, it's like 48,000 hours to come, is like, what a real friend.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  48,000 hours?

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Not thousand. Hold on.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  That's insane.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  A month of hanging out, I'd be like, oh my God, like that's my new friend. But two hours, I spent a week in Paris with, cause I was working on something and this one girl was there. Her name's Emily and we spent like four days together. And like, at the end of it, I was like, that's my new friend.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  So you just went on the set of Emily in Paris and you got a new friend?

• 40:54Speaker 02

  That's how, just, we should tell this person, that caller, go to, go on the set of Emily in Paris. 50 hours together is an acquaintance, casual friend. 90 hours is a casual friend, friend. 200 plus hours is a close friend.

• 41:05Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  That's about right. I mean, that's about a month.

• 41:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  I mean, I don't know. I don't know math.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Just made that up.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  I've, of course.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  I've, I've like most recently found like in the last three years, like my new, like my best friend, I think I will have for the rest of my life.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Oh my God, Kevin, that's beautiful.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  So, oh, it's my friend Jason. You know, you guys know him. But like truly like, you know, you don't, at 40, almost damn near 40, like you don't expect to make like.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Now are you working with this person in any, in any way?

• 41:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  So they're just a friend.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  They're straight up a friend.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  Like you guys haven't talked about, oh, we should do this business idea together. Nothing.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  I love that. That's a, I think that's, is that a new Gatorade or is that the same one?

• 41:43Speaker 04

  It's the same one.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  I feel like I'm losing, are you actually drinking this or is it just going to your mouth?

• 41:47Speaker 04

  It's like little sippies.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  Cause I'm like, I hasn't seen, you've been doing it a lot, but I haven't seen it decrease at all.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  I know. It's because I cut my lip while shaving. So if I like really go for it, it hurts.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  It's the worst.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Um, Jake, we love you so much.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for taking the time.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  We love you, buddy.

• 42:05Speaker 04

  I'll come back anytime. This was so fun.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  Well, we appreciate you and let's hang and I don't know, maybe share your, share your location.

• 42:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'll figure that out literally right now.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  Please.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  So thrilled that everything's crushing into life.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. Congrats on everything. We're so happy for you.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  That you had like a friend summer. That's fantastic.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. Friend summer.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  Happy friend summer.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  It's not done yet. We still got a month left.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  We got another month in us. Uh, and maybe I'll see you on this mystery birthday party that they're apparently.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  I was about to say. Me in the loop.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, we will. See you soon.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  Bye. Toodles.

• 42:39Speaker 05

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