Tom Felton

Tom Felton can't believe his life. 25 years after first plaing Draco Malfoy he's reprising his iconic role on Broadway in HARRY POTTER AND THE CURSED CHILD. Oh and he's also suddenly a phenomenon in China. Tom and Josh try to make sense of it all and reminisce about their long history together in this first extended podcast chat for Tom! SUPPORT THE SHOW BY SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS! Rula -- Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/happy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ #rulapod #sponsored NordVPN -- EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/hsc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Saily -- 🌎 Get an exclusive 15% discount on your first Saily data plans! Use code HSC at checkout. Download Saily app or go to to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://saily.com/hsc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Limited Time Offer–Get Huel today with my exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with my code happy15 at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://huel.com/happy15.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partnering and supporting our show! Check out the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy Sad Confused patreon here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes, video versions of the podcast, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Visible puts the ultimate wireless hack in the palm of your hand. With unlimited 5G wireless data and hotspot designed to keep you connected. Powered by Verizon's 5G network. And no contract holding you back. Plans start at $25 a month. Or get the premium Visible Plus Pro Plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code HACK. Make the switch at visible.com. Terms apply. See visible.com for details.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  Low energy, unfocused, foggy? You might be dehydrated. Whether it's hot yoga, over 100 degree weather, or too much sun. Gator Light, with a specialized blend of five electrolytes, was scientifically designed to help move fluids into the body faster for rapid rehydration. Shop now at retailers nationwide. Gator Light hydrates faster than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist.

• 0:59Josh Horowitz?

  Do you remember way back when you were a kid? Like, was it your idea to say Potter in the way that you, specific way you said it? Or?

• 1:07Speaker 03

  I don't know how that's become an iconic thing. I certainly had no idea. I have three older brothers. So they would always call me something like maggot. Or, what was I also called? Runt. Runt of the pack. Because I was the youngest and the shortest considerably. So I don't remember ever thinking about it for a second. But Potter. It just got more and more venomous.

• 1:35Speaker 04

  Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins.

• 1:43Josh Horowitz?

  Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Thanks as always for checking me out, checking the podcast out on Spotify, on YouTube. However you're doing it, I appreciate you guys. Today on the show, it's Tom Felton. He needs no introduction. Draco Malfoy is on the pod and I couldn't be more thrilled. As you'll see in this, or hear in this conversation, Tom and I go way back, thousand years. We've been talking to each other basically through the entire run of Potter. And to see him now killing it on Broadway. That's right. He is reprising the role of Draco Malfoy in Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. I've gotten a chance to see this on stage. He's amazing. The production is epic. Not only that, he's promoting a new film. It is called They

• 2:25Josh Horowitz?

  Will Kill You, a rom-com, as you can tell from the title. No, not really. This is a full-on, like, horror action film. Zossi Beats, a whole big ensemble. And it is premiering, as I tape this, in just a few days at the South by Southwest Film Festival. I got a chance to see a sneak peek of it. It's gonna be a fun one. So check it out when it's out in theaters very, very soon. As for this conversation, well, this was a real honor and kind of emotional and fun, all the things at once for me, because we do have a long history, Tom Felton and I. And I didn't even realize when he sat down with me today that he really hasn't done this kind of thing before. He's done, like, I've even done him on the podcast in a shorter form before, but he's never done like a really extended long-form

• 3:07Josh Horowitz?

  conversation like this, as he told me when he sat down. So I guess consider this Tom Felton's official podcast debut on Happy, Say Confused. And again, I couldn't be more honored. As you'll see from this, he's a gem. He just has such a good head on his shoulders. He's so appreciative of the life he has, thanks to Harry Potter, and appreciative of where he's at now, kind of coming full circle with his performance on Broadway. So for Harry Potter fans out there, for Tom Felton fans, you're gonna really dig this one. This is a super fun, great chat with a really special guy, Tom Felton. Before we go to that, one quick reminder, as always, patreon.com/happy say confused. If you like what I do over

• 3:47Josh Horowitz?

  there, it helps us make more of what I do over here. Patreon.com/happy say confused, early access, discount codes, merch, all that cool, fun stuff. Check it out. Okay, here we go. Without any further ado, Draco Malfoy himself and me, Tom Felton. Enjoy. Tom Felton.

• 4:06Speaker 03

  Josh Horowitz.

• 4:08Josh Horowitz?

  Don't pretend to be professional.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  We've not met before.

• 4:10Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, what a pleasure. I can't get to you.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  What's the mic, mate? I thought you were the professional.

• 4:15Josh Horowitz?

  I'm not. You should know by now, I'm not.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  No, but I just, I just thought about it as I was washing my hands. I was just thinking, you were definitely one of the first people to ever interview me on a red carpet or a film debut. And I was trying to cast my mind back to when that was.

• 4:32Josh Horowitz?

  Eighteen and twenty-three. We had, like, I had the cloak over me. It was, that's how you did cameras then.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  And his sense of humour has not improved. It was with Ben Lyons, I believe, on, was it Yahoo or was it?

• 4:48Josh Horowitz?

  He was Yahooing, I was always MTVing. We were horrible rivals, not really, we were friends, but yeah, we always ran into you.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  But yes, I always remember, well, your kindness and your passion for films and all things pop culture, and I think that's the reason I'm still begrudgingly saying that you are my friend.

• 5:13Josh Horowitz?

  There's no begrudging in myself. Look at him starting so sweet today. You're throwing me off.

• 5:17Speaker 03

  It's an English sign of affection, I promise you.

• 5:19Josh Horowitz?

  I love it. We'll get the pleasantries out of the way. You know I adore you. Thank you for doing this today, my friend.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  Honestly, as a podcast debut, I couldn't think of a better person to deal with.

• 5:31Josh Horowitz?

  I can't believe this. Tom just was telling me, this is kind of your podcast debut. You haven't really done this kind of a thing ever.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  Never, no, not really. I've done lots of radio bits and soundbites for various different films and various different publications and whatnot, but never, well, I've never like sat down with, well, I hope you consider me a friend as well.

• 5:52Josh Horowitz?

  I do.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've never sat down. I mean, we did share dog videos the other day.

• 5:57Josh Horowitz?

  That's the ultimate sign of friendship, I think.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Yes, which is why you'll be gentle with me.

• 6:01Josh Horowitz?

  Yes, I see again, part of the master plan.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  But also, you know, I'm really proud of you. Congratulations, mate. I remember when Happy, Sad, Confused and all this was all just a new

• 6:12Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 6:13Speaker 03

  idea, and then to see what it's become.

• 6:15Josh Horowitz?

  Thank you.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  That's why I belittle you to other people that I met that have been on your podcast, and they consider you a serious journalist.

• 6:23Josh Horowitz?

  You're like, really, that guy? Well, I experienced that the other day, because I'm gonna go right back at you with a compliment, because I got a chance to see you in Cursed Child the other night

• 6:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:32Josh Horowitz?

  on Broadway, his Broadway debut, and it was so moving to see. It's like such a special thing to see someone that you've known for a long time and just like, literally centre stage in a spectacle that big, so celebrated, getting his laurels.

• 6:49Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, just talk to me a little bit. Has this been emotional for you just to like, take this on and feel the love night after night in a Broadway theater?

• 6:56Speaker 03

  Hugely, hugely. Far more than I could reveal. I have to think of miscellaneous objects to prevent myself from...

• 7:06Josh Horowitz?

  Breaking down?

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, kinda. But if you told us when we were doing the MTV red carpet, or whatever it was, whatever situation that we've met each other through the years, that we would be here, not just doing this podcast right now, that I would be on Broadway with a wand in my hand.

• 7:25Josh Horowitz?

  No one could have thought that, yeah.

• 7:27Speaker 03

  With people coming to see it. I think we all assumed by the end of the eighth film that the wizarding fandom flame would dwindle. Not because they weren't good enough, but that's how generally the trend is with things. And if you told us then that I would be doing this right now, I would never have believed you. And the response has just been phenomenal.

• 7:58Josh Horowitz?

  So you, for those that haven't seen it, needless to say, you are playing this character, a little known character named Draco Malfoy.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:06Josh Horowitz?

  And you walk on stage, and because of that history, there's so much history for you, for the audience, there's rapturous applause immediately. And I mean, does it take, you have to take that in, but you have to like, really focus up. Is it hard to kind of like, stay in the moment and not break character?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  For me, not really. I'm very, very grateful and I'm aware of the noise. But I have worked with the best and they've raised me so. Shout outs to my previous Hogwarts colleagues of, you know, Mr. Alan Rickman and...

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Helen McCrory and everyone that's all I'm trying to do there is just lock eyes with Harry. John Skelly, our actor. And hopefully they they stop they stop making so much noise as quickly as possible.

• 9:01Josh Horowitz?

  With acting to do.

• 9:02Speaker 03

  Which is not really the thing to do, but I know I'm just I'm very, very grateful for it and I'm very. I'm just aware of how much that how much it means to people. And it means so much to me. I think one of my fears was was reprising my role. For those of you don't know, I should give a little. Can I give a backstory?

• 9:22Josh Horowitz?

  Please.

• 9:22Speaker 03

  Well, I was cast in the Harry Potter films when I was.

• 9:25Josh Horowitz?

  You were in the movies too.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  This is how good his humor gets, ladies and gentlemen.

• 9:32Speaker 03

  Listen, you're as bad as I am.

• 9:33Josh Horowitz?

  My best audience.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  You find yourself as amusing as I find myself. This is gonna be terrible. How long have we got?

• 9:39Josh Horowitz?

  Two men just laughing at their own crappy jokes. Yeah, kind of.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  Um, but yeah, I was cast in the Harry Potter films when I was eleven years old as Draco Malfoy. Which you interviewed me when I was probably twelve or thirteen when the films. Came out. Um, we were cast for one film. And they then decided on a second, then decided on a third. It was there was never this projection that it would go on for as long as it did, which it did. So I spent eleven years having my hair dyed every nine days, bleach blonde, playing Draco Malfoy.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  I was quite happy when the hair dying stopped. Uh, and I never in a million years thought, and I've been lucky enough to go on and do lots of other things.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Since then, um. Never in a million years would you have said, uh, you'd be back playing the same character, exactly the age that he was. When the um, the play is set, the so the Broadway show is essentially Draco nineteen years on from when we left him in the films. Which is exactly my age. Which is thirty eight, by the way, which is the age that. Um, the serendipity here is.

• 10:59Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, is Jason that age?

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Jason was thirty eight when he adopted me. Jason Isaacs, my father on screen. Um, and I'm thirty eight, adopting Aidan Close, who plays Scorpius Malfoy, who's the most phenomenal um person, son, actor, all the, all the above. Uh, and to highlight more serendipity, if I can.

• 11:22Josh Horowitz?

  Please.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Yesterday was Daniel Radcliffe's.

• 11:25Josh Horowitz?

  His opening, right?

• 11:26Speaker 03

  Opening show on Broadway, which has come to huge applause, which I luckily got to see in his previews, and he's annoyingly fantastic, uh, and he deserves every accolade that he gets. I share a dressing room, uh, you remember, uh, when you came to see with John Skelly, our fabulous Harry Potter. It was his birthday yesterday, which my, my friend and I ended up decorating his, our dressing room with balloons and all sorts of absurd Potter regalia. And I just thought, what are the chances of that?

• 12:05Josh Horowitz?

  It makes you believe in fate and some, something mystical if you don't already, doesn't it?

• 12:11Speaker 03

  Definitely, and even more so now, now I'm here, but um, you're the one with the questions, so I'll let you talk.

• 12:16Josh Horowitz?

  No, no, I can, you can, you can talk as long, that's what a podcast is for, talking.

• 12:20Speaker 03

  How long have you done it for, can I ask?

• 12:21Josh Horowitz?

  Twelve years.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  The, the podcast?

• 12:23Josh Horowitz?

  Twelve years of the podcast.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  Really?

• 12:25Josh Horowitz?

  Seven hundred plus episodes.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  And it started on?

• 12:28Josh Horowitz?

  It was, it was in my office at MTV, surreptitiously just putting a microphone up in my office and bringing folks in for long conversations, cause you know, I've done the junk gets and the red carpets for so long that, oh, let's try to have a, something of a substantive conversation and um.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  That's why I've been so surprised at all the guests you've had over the years. I'm like, really?

• 12:46Josh Horowitz?

  With, with. With him, the same. Are there two, Joshua?

• 12:49Speaker 03

  No, but I've been, again, it's a pretty sign of affection. I've just been celebrating the, the, um, the clout that this sort of thing has over.

• 12:59Josh Horowitz?

  This is not gonna go well. If you keep doing this, you're ruining this.

• 13:03Josh Horowitz?

  Do you remember one of the first things that we did that like went viral? I remember it because it was important in my career. Do you remember something called American Talk? Do you remember we ever, we did this?

• 13:11Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Wait, yes, yes, yes. First of all, I remember you asking me early on about the Happy Sad Confused. And I was like, this is a bad idea. That's never gonna go anywhere. And here we are.

• 13:23Josh Horowitz?

  One of your rare mistakes.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  But the Americanisms, I do. And you were the reason why I did it because I knew I was gonna make a buffoon of myself. But what did you ask me to say?

• 13:30Josh Horowitz?

  I asked you and your castmates to do like, to say Americanisms. I gave you like silly phrases like, I'd like an order of chicken fingers and mozzarella sticks, whatever.

• 13:41Speaker 03

  Was it Olive Garden?

• 13:43Josh Horowitz?

  You do remember.

• 13:44Speaker 03

  You do remember, yeah. Was it not something about Justin Bieber? No.

• 13:48Josh Horowitz?

  Yes. You know it well. You also, I think, I think you had to recite the lyrics of Party in the USA, Miley Cyrus's song.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  And I remember feeling like, why? Why am I doing this?

• 13:58Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:58Josh Horowitz?

  But you did it.

• 13:59Speaker 03

  You got me.

• 14:00Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, it worked out. You're on Broadway.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  You have a very disarming charm about you. That's the last nice thing I'm gonna say about you during this podcast.

• 14:07Josh Horowitz?

  Thank goodness. We'll be right back with more Happy Sad Confused.

• 14:15Speaker 00

  Visible puts the ultimate wireless hack in the palm of your hand. With unlimited 5G wireless data and hotspot designed to keep you connected. Powered by Verizon's 5G network. And no contract holding you back. Plans start at $25 a month. Or get the premium Visible Plus Pro Plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code "HACK". Make the switch at visible.com. Terms apply. See visible.com for details.

• 14:46Speaker 05

  Low energy, unfocused, foggy? You might be dehydrated. Gatorade Zero Powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body. With a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade: Hydrates Better Than Water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist.

• 15:18Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, well, we're gonna, we're gonna bounce around a lot, okay, but before I, before I forget, because I do want to mention also, while I haven't seen your entire film because they're keeping it under wraps, "They Will Kill You" is coming, and you are a, an integral part of this film, this is debuting at South by Southwest, you're gonna take a little break from Broadway to go to Boston, yeah?

• 15:36Speaker 03

  I'm beyond excited, um, first time to South by Southwest, and a lot of, a lot of, um, great memories and work, hard work went into making "They Will Kill You", March 27th, I believe, it's in cinemas everywhere, and yes, the, the theater are releasing me just for one day, which is enough, because I'll, I'll miss the theater otherwise, but I'm really excited to celebrate with the, with the filmmakers and the rest of the cast, Aziz Beetz, who actually is coming to the show, uh, tonight, she's a huge Potter fan, although she's an-

• 16:12Josh Horowitz?

  Did you know on set, did she hide it, did they?

• 16:14Speaker 03

  I, the first time I, I Googled her name, the, the video came up about her saying that Potter was one of their, sorry, Potter was one of their favorite things, her hu- uh, her husband is a Slytherin, she's a Hufflepuff.

• 16:28Josh Horowitz?

  I literally met her husband like two nights ago, so again, serendipity, this is all so bizarre.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Okay, well, what's next, mate?

• 16:35Josh Horowitz?

  What's gonna happen?

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean, is Ben Lyon's gonna pop out of there?

• 16:38Josh Horowitz?

  He's gonna rappel down.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  But no, I'm very excited, that, that, that's cross pollinated in its own way, but, um, I loved, the, the film is such a unique piece of, like, pop culture, have you seen it?

• 16:51Josh Horowitz?

  I've seen only, they only showed me the first, about 17 minutes, but it, but it made an impact, you make an impact in those first 17 minutes, I'll say that.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  How far did you get?

• 16:59Josh Horowitz?

  Something might have happened.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, things happened, Zossi kicks ass.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  Part of my anatomy fell off.

• 17:06Josh Horowitz?

  Maybe.

• 17:09Josh Horowitz?

  Lepersy kind of, but worse?

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't say too much, but I will say when I did read that that happened to my character early on in the film, I thought, what's the, nothing else to read from here? But uh.

• 17:22Josh Horowitz?

  But there, oh, so that's, oh, that's good to know. I wasn't sure if that might be, look at us, just dancing around.

• 17:26Speaker 03

  I know, I know. Basically, the plot thickens. So uh, but I'm very excited to see it with the live audience more than anything.

• 17:33Josh Horowitz?

  What, what has been, so like, obviously, this is a full circle moment, coming to Broadway, playing this character in particular, but like, you know, navigating the, I don't even, how many years has it been since Potter now? Ten, fifteen years since the?

• 17:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, twenty, what, twenty-five at least is the first.

• 17:47Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  One-ish. Um, I, I can guarantee you most fans who are at stage door weren't born when the first.

• 17:54Josh Horowitz?

  It's crazy.

• 17:55Speaker 03

  When we first met, which is absurd, well, not absurd, but it's amazing to see that the uh, not only is the fandom not going down, it, it's going up.

• 18:04Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  It's being passed down from generation to generation. And I'm just really, really proud of that. Oh, I should tell you what I gave, um, you know, it was Radcliffe's opening.

• 18:14Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  Uh, night last night for his play.

• 18:18Josh Horowitz?

  Every brilliant thing.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 18:20Josh Horowitz?

  Yep.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  Um, which was, which is really, really fun to watch. Uh, it's customary to send flowers.

• 18:26Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  I believe.

• 18:27Josh Horowitz?

  Yes, I believe so.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  I knew Daniel would not enjoy flowers. And as Brits, we like to take the piss. Can I say that?

• 18:34Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  Take the Mickey, the Yankers chain, uh, as much as possible.

• 18:38Josh Horowitz?

  As many euphemisms as you want, please.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  So it was John Skelly, uh, Harry Potter's, um, idea to send Daniel a wand box of his own wand. Um, he thought it was a good idea as a gift. I knew that, that Daniel's not gonna, he'll, he'll, he'll know that I'm taking the piss here. So I just, what was it? Dear dude, um, break legs tonight. If all else fails, whip this out. Love, Draco. I haven't heard back from him yet, but I'm hoping that he had a wry smile.

• 19:10Josh Horowitz?

  I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. So he is though, I mean, you know, he is a part of the reason you're, you're here on Broadway. That's fair to say, yes?

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Yes. I've, I've, I've seen Daniel in every, well, most, if not all of his productions and Rupert's and I've been a theater fan my whole life. My mom, my mom took me to the theater, uh. From a very early age, really, and I've always appreciated the medium more than like any other.

• 19:38Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 19:39Speaker 03

  So it's a bit like live music or you always have your first gig and this was something that always.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  You don't have pantomime over here, do you?

• 19:49Josh Horowitz?

  No.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  But it's essentially like child's theatre where they sort of make it as accessible as you can do. It's not Shakespeare, put it that way. And that sort of opened the door floodgate for me to even want to entertain the idea of being an actor. And that which led to me doing a couple of films before Potter.

• 20:09Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  And then, you know, the twelve years that took me into my adulthood. And so to get a chance to come back to it is really is very satisfying.

• 20:21Josh Horowitz?

  But it did take you a minute to to kind of like take the plunge, right? You did it a few years back in England.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 20:27Josh Horowitz?

  A much smaller scale production. That's not that's not saying much. Every production is smaller scaled than Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, but.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:34Josh Horowitz?

  And I've heard you say that was that was kind of terrifying that first those first few weeks of just like taking the plunge, yes?

• 20:40Speaker 03

  It still is. It still is because it means so much to me.

• 20:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  I know it sounds cheesy, but it means so much to me, not just my character, what they think of it, but how much it means to everyone else.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Add that with with live

• 21:01Speaker 03

  issues, such as like we have a hundred and thirty eight people, I think, that are working in that theatre at one point. I can't tell you how many trap doors, how many wires, how many

• 21:13Speaker 03

  illusions that are done in ways that even I'm still not privy to how half of them are done.

• 21:19Josh Horowitz?

  You're doing stunts live on stage every night.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  It is crazy. I mean, it's, yeah, speaking of stunts, I mean, whoever was there on that night. You know, there's a

• 21:32Speaker 03

  there's a moment where I'm supposed to stand on the table in a very Draco-esque um poise with a wand and I got a bit cocky that one night. And I just fell straight off the table. I'll show you the video later, but it's uh and when you fall off the table, you you fall off the table and you have to get back up and stand back on it and know that you looked like a complete prat.

• 21:55Josh Horowitz?

  Did you stay in character? Were you like?

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, we, yeah, absolutely.

• 22:00Josh Horowitz?

  Draco doesn't fall off tables, doesn't slip off chairs.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  He shouldn't though, but he also shouldn't drop his wand, which he has done a few times as well. Um. So, yeah, it's it's it's it's so cool to be able to like pick up something um. But the the the the the difference is is the Draco that I knew was a child and a little arrogant shit, really. Uh, can I say that too?

• 22:25Josh Horowitz?

  So how is describing for script? You're playing an arrogant shit.

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Pretty much arrogant, slimy, little git.

• 22:31Josh Horowitz?

  Was that how he was described, really?

• 22:32Speaker 03

  Well, that's how I described him and that's right, the re- the revelation in the last films or the last couple where you see, ah, he's the most bullied out of the

• 22:40Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  And that's the reason why, you know, bullies bully, etc. Um, but now he's thirty eight years old. He's got a kid. And his son is rather eccentric.

• 22:50Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 22:51Speaker 03

  Rather different from the Malfoy lineage.

• 22:52Josh Horowitz?

  Yes, breaking from the pack a bit, yeah, a bit, a bit. Has has this experience like made you reevaluate Draco a little bit?

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Definitely, definitely. Uh, yeah, there's a lot of subtext or a lot of different things, but to go from when I met Jason, I was eleven years old. It was a di- di- a nocturn alley and um I was just so impressed with his you know, um, his skill and the way he treated people offset onset uh that I really hope that I can emulate even half of what he brought to me that I can do to Aiden and the uh rest of the wonderful, wonderful cast.

• 23:30Josh Horowitz?

  Has the, I would imagine some of the relationships, especially like with the adults, kind of deepens as you get older, as you yourself become an adult, like a relationship with Jason when you're fifteen is one thing, but when you're in your thirties and you are an adult leading, you know, a real adult life. Is it, I I don't know, has it changed like in terms of like that relationship or any of the relationships with the older actors?

• 23:51Speaker 03

  I still call him dad. And I still think I'm Aiden's age. He's twenty four, I think, but I can see the difference.

• 24:00Josh Horowitz?

  You kind of revert back when you're around him like a little bit.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  I just feel still one of the one of the kids, but also realizing now I I'm a parental sort of figure.

• 24:09Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  In the in the in the company at least. Um, but I was back to Jason. One of the last chats I had with him before coming here was

• 24:20Speaker 03

  about doing theater because I hadn't done too much before. I'd done two great productions, Two Twenty Two and um, a child's, um, a child's mind, a child's story. Sorry, I forget the name now. But both of them with Matthew Dunstan, both of them were the encouragement that I needed to be able to say that you can do theater. Um, both of both of those productions, it was mostly text, dialogue, and not a lot of, um, wizardry.

• 24:51Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  So this is a different kind of on stage. You you saw it yourself. I mean, how?

• 24:59Josh Horowitz?

  It's, I can't imagine what goes into that show like that I'm seeing and that I'm not seeing. And I was saying to you after I saw it, I was like, I had anxiety, just like everybody being, I don't know, like, I don't know how six injuries don't happen a night. It feels like it's a very, obviously you guys know what you're doing, but it's.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  Well, other than me falling off tables, that's why the injury happened.

• 25:18Josh Horowitz?

  That's your problem.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  I got a bit cocky, didn't I, before Expelliarmus happened?

• 25:22Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, then again backstage, my sense is you're the wild card. You're the one to watch out for. You're the one that.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  The one to worry about. Yes. Well, that's the reason I had a chaperone for the first few weeks because I think people generalize the term acting so generally because what they, like when I did The Flash as a TV show that I did for a season in Vancouver, which I loved with Grant Guston. You know, you're doing nine pages a day of dialogue and you have to learn them, forget them, move on.

• 25:55Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Learn them, forget them, move on. And it's quite procedural and it's quite. You're repeating yourself, but in a very different way.

• 26:03Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  This is sort of repeating yourself, literally.

• 26:06Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  And hoping that one day it all meshes together perfectly, which, which is unachievable. But I do feel we do a bloody good job at trying.

• 26:16Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, yeah, it's as impressive a production as there is.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  It really is, it really is. You wouldn't believe it. We're talking fire, we're talking water.

• 26:23Josh Horowitz?

  There are slides and pulleys and I don't even.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  It's mental. It's mental they allow it. So come and see it for sure.

• 26:31Josh Horowitz?

  Do you remember way back when you were a kid, like, was it your idea to say Potter in the way that you, specific way you said it? Or?

• 26:38Speaker 03

  I don't know how that's become an iconic thing. I certainly had no idea. Um, I have three older brothers.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  So they would all, would always call me something like maggot or, um, what was I also called? Runt, runt of the pack.

• 26:54Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Because I was the youngest and the shortest considerably.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  So I don't remember ever thinking about it for a second, but Potter, uh, it just got more and more venomous.

• 27:06Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  And now they all do it. And even my son, Aiden, does it better than, than I do on stage myself.

• 27:13Josh Horowitz?

  And all you have to do is say that in the company of a Potter fan and goosebumps and like applause, something happens.

• 27:19Speaker 03

  I'm not leaving it to you. I hear you're.

• 27:22Josh Horowitz?

  You have to train me.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  You just said Potter.

• 27:24Josh Horowitz?

  Po- po- Potter.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  Pot.

• 27:26Josh Horowitz?

  Pot.

• 27:27Speaker 03

  Ta.

• 27:27Josh Horowitz?

  Potter.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Once more?

• 27:29Josh Horowitz?

  Potter. Potter.

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Bravo.

• 27:32Josh Horowitz?

  Hey.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  Good teacher.

• 27:34Josh Horowitz?

  I'm your new understudy.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  But yeah, no, I never knew any of these things were going to be iconic lines. We, I even get to say one of the famous lines from the films in the play, which was not in the, in the, in the play before, but I said it once spontaneously in rehearsals. And John Tiffany, our fabulous director, who's been doing it now for 10 years. I could see his eyes twinkle and go, yes, put that, put that back in. And it's, uh, needless to say, it's quite a hit every night.

• 28:07Josh Horowitz?

  Is, is there a scene from the films that would have been fun to do on stage that you can think back to that like, oh, experiencing that with a live audience would be a trip?

• 28:17Speaker 03

  There's. There's already so much that happens on stage, it's hard to think of an idea of cramming in more.

• 28:23Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  You know, there was a, the original was a two-part version.

• 28:27Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  Which now they've sort of, I think they're consolidating into the version that we have today. I think every actor would want another six hours digging into their character-backed log. But honestly, there's so much that happens on stage every night. I've done, I think, a hundred and twenty-ish shows and every night I'm still looking at various different allusions going, "How did they do that?"

• 28:54Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 28:54Speaker 03

  One of the things people don't realize is that when you're on set saying "expelliarmus", nothing happens. It's just, I'm just holding a piece of wood. And instead here, with the sound and the visuals and the production design and everything, like, stuff is happening right in front of your face, which is still to me magical, for lack of a better pun.

• 29:16Josh Horowitz?

  Tom, Tom, what's going on in China?

• 29:19Speaker 03

  Oh my days, you know what I mean? It just gets more brilliantly bizarre.

• 29:24Josh Horowitz?

  Like, in a life filled with bizarre moments, surreal moments, where does Tom Felton slash Draco Malfoy being worshipped, like, posters in malls rank in your history?

• 29:38Speaker 03

  I still think this is some sort of prank.

• 29:41Josh Horowitz?

  I don't even have that kind of power. I would if I could.

• 29:43Speaker 03

  No, but when the first few people told me that this was the case, I mean, I don't want to get incorrect, but it's a Chinese symbol for the New Year.

• 29:54Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  And it happens, so, I'm gonna mispronounce it now, but "Mihafu" is the same syllabic way of saying Malfoy.

• 30:04Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  And because it's a fire horse and Malfoy is quite, he cares about money. I don't know, honestly, we're gonna have to get a professional in there.

• 30:17Josh Horowitz?

  Explain yourself.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  I have no idea, but I think it's fabulous and obviously, like, I can't believe this.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  It's still a trip to me that people know who Malfoy is in foreign countries. So the fact that Chi- China knows who Draco Malfoy is, let alone uses them as the uh I the symbol for good fortune for the rest of the year is uh it's remarkable. I I refuse to be indifferent. So it's the so-called, but also how.

• 30:50Josh Horowitz?

  You need to book a trip to China. You get off that plane, they're gonna hoist you.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  Well, yes, once the theater releases me, I will be on their way.

• 30:59Josh Horowitz?

  How plugged in are you? Like, your relationship with, you're on social media, like, I mean, do friends have to like, let you know, or did you see that organically on your own, like?

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Definitely. Organically, I feel like I use social media the same as you to some degree, like sometimes it's professionally promoting, um, they will kill you being out, you know, and and and enjoying that and really getting a chance to celebrate. You know, we, the thing with film is, we did that a year ago, or more than that, um, and you don't know when it's gonna come out, you don't know the result, like Fackham Hall, I'm not sure if you saw it yet.

• 31:35Josh Horowitz?

  I didn't see it.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  Do you wanna do that one again?

• 31:39Speaker 03

  You did see it and you loved it. Do you remember like Fackham Hall?

• 31:42Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, my God, you were, I meant to say, you were amazing in that.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  The number one show on HBO Max right now?

• 31:47Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fantastic.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  You told me about that.

• 31:49Josh Horowitz?

  Yep.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 31:52Josh Horowitz?

  Have you listened to all my episodes?

• 31:54Speaker 03

  But that's, but that's so lovely. Fair enough.

• 31:58Josh Horowitz?

  Any of my episodes?

• 31:59Speaker 03

  See, now the friendship comes out.

• 32:03Josh Horowitz?

  Honesty, that's the important thing. Would you want me to lie to you?

• 32:06Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 32:07Josh Horowitz?

  A little bit.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  No, I'm the one that's nervous. No, but the fact that Fackham Hall, we did a while ago, and it's been widely received as um a hit, uh beautifully massaging two of my favorite genres, one being Naked Gun. I was lucky to grow up enough with like with Naked Gun, that sense of, yes, that sense of humor largely, the reason why we're taking the piss out of each other is because we've seen Naked Gun. Match that with the sort of Downton Abbey, um, the Crown-esque uh exterior and and and visuals, you know, we all knew we were taking a bit of a risk with this one, and um it's been, it's been so lovely to hear that that's been responded to well, and I.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  Without getting too ahead of myself, I think They Will Kill You will be similarly uh um received well because it's not something that we've ever seen before.

• 33:01Josh Horowitz?

  Yep.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  It's, you know, it's a bit naughty, but a bit funny, a bit gory.

• 33:08Josh Horowitz?

  It's gonna be a fun audience experience. I've I've done I've done South by and they've probably told you already, South by audiences are amazing.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  See, I've known South by, so what's the what's your experience, is it?

• 33:16Josh Horowitz?

  Enthusiastic, they like genre, I'm sure this, what I've seen in this movie, it'll go well.

• 33:23Speaker 03

  Are you going?

• 33:24Josh Horowitz?

  No, I'm gonna be here talking to boring people like you.

• 33:29Speaker 03

  Now it all comes out.

• 33:31Josh Horowitz?

  No, no, but you're gonna have a blast and you should get some tacos while you're there, too.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:34Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  And you rec well, I'll let you text me recommendations later. I'm sure we don't want to talk about tacos.

• 33:38Josh Horowitz?

  Let's use the rest of our time just talking tacos.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Well, we could do, I know, but yes. How's your dog, by the way? Is it handling the the the the temperature well?

• 33:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, Lucy has come out and enjoyed the the, you know.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Because it's it's flipped.

• 33:50Josh Horowitz?

  Well, today it's it's back cold again, but I mean, it's a little confusing. You've got you've got two with you here, yes?

• 33:56Speaker 03

  My two pups, Willow and Forrester here, yes, that was the first thing in my contract to to agree to do this. They're my settlers because they know that they don't give a monkey's what I do for a living and they remind me that we're only here and we're only now and dogs are so present, they can't not think about anything else other than.

• 34:15Josh Horowitz?

  I know.

• 34:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:16Josh Horowitz?

  We're obsessed. They they make us better people, don't they?

• 34:18Speaker 03

  They well, certainly. I just I I think it's Bill Murray's quote, um.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  I don't trust a person that doesn't like my dog, but I trust the dog when they don't like a person.

• 34:29Josh Horowitz?

  Yep.

• 34:31Josh Horowitz?

  Truism.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Something like that, yeah.

• 34:33Josh Horowitz?

  You have any, you have a tattoo of your late great.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  I do, my first one, Willow, yeah, um.

• 34:38Josh Horowitz?

  Will you immortalize the the the two, the two newer ones?

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not really a tattoo, well, not yet. They're they're both alive and happy, thank you. In fact, I'm not taking them for a walk right now because I'm stuck here talking shite with you.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  I say that with love. But they would love to have been there. We should have brought the dogs.

• 34:55Josh Horowitz?

  Next time.

• 34:56Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 34:56Josh Horowitz?

  Your second podcast.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  We'll do a dog thing for sure.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  Visible puts the ultimate wireless hack in the palm of your hand. With unlimited 5G wireless data and hotspot designed to keep you connected. Powered by Verizon's 5G network. And no contract holding you back. Plans start at $25 a month. Or get the premium Visible Plus Pro Plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code "HACK". Make the switch at visible.com. Terms apply. See visible.com for details.

• 35:36Speaker 05

  Low energy, unfocused, foggy? You might be dehydrated. Gatorade Zero Powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body. With a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration, no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade: Hydrates Better Than Water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist.

• 36:08Josh Horowitz?

  So where are you at in terms of, I mean, in a year from now or something? I'm going to be talking to another Draco Malfoy, a young boy that is playing this role.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:17Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, that's gonna be, that's gonna be surreal and fascinating, I would imagine, for you to see it.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  You're referring to the...

• 36:22Josh Horowitz?

  The HBO series.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. What have you, well, what do you know?

• 36:25Josh Horowitz?

  I know nothing. I mean, they're, they're making it and it's happening. That's all I know.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, again, I'm thrilled that the wizarding world is thriving. I mean, it's amazing. None of us would have ever expected people to still be as interested as they were when we finished the films. Now it's sort of like triple.

• 36:45Josh Horowitz?

  I know.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  There's theme parks.

• 36:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Can you imagine that? I, I, I first went to Universal Studios as a kid, as my dream holiday.

• 36:55Speaker 03

  Imagine telling that kid in ten years ish, uh, you'll come back and open up a theme park where you're in it.

• 37:03Josh Horowitz?

  That was one of my favorite trips ever. I went to when you guys opened Wizarding World and that was so bizarre. It was amazing.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  So imagine even then saying, don't worry, you'll be on Broadway in ten years, doing it again. I'm like, what?

• 37:16Josh Horowitz?

  So what's next? Ten years from now, what are we saying?

• 37:18Speaker 03

  I, well, we had this conversation earlier. I said, is, uh, am I going to the moon? Is there some sort of, uh, nothing would surprise me.

• 37:26Josh Horowitz?

  A planet named Draco Tom Felton. Are you visiting Tom Felton anytime soon?

• 37:31Speaker 03

  Literally, nothing would surprise me. I mean, yes, the Chinese New Year, it, it, it always beautifully bizarre and some of it is serendipitous where it's like, uh, oh my God, I can't believe that that happened. And other parts are of course, like Daniel Radcliffe's play, who's less than four hundred meters from mine. I'm playing Draco, he's opening what I think is one of the best shows on Broadway, other than ours.

• 37:58Josh Horowitz?

  Obviously. I've seen both. It's the second best.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  Were you there last night?

• 38:02Josh Horowitz?

  No, but I saw it a couple of weeks ago. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Uh, uh, and then, then sharing the dressing room with Harry Potter and it being his birthday. That was a lone enough reason for me to go. Someone's up there. Something's happening.

• 38:15Josh Horowitz?

  Do you guys get offers like in tandem? Like you haven't worked with Daniel, Emma Rupert, obviously since the films, but I would imagine you get all sorts of unusual, interesting offers. Like do, do people ever say like Daniel Rupert buddy cop movie? What do you think? Like, do you get those kind of strange?

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Sadly,

• 38:34Speaker 03

  because of the chain of command, they go through them before they get to me. Which means they've been turned down by all three of them before they get to me. So the answer is no.

• 38:44Josh Horowitz?

  Just took a turn.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  No, I, we would love, we would love to. We're, we're, we're, we're all good friends and I like to think ironically Draco being somewhat um the gel that keeps us all together because we're all in four different corners of the world at different times. We all love each other. We've all been through this experience um and I have unique relationships with all of them from Matt Lewis, Neville, from the Phelps Twins playing golf with Rupert, li- living next door to him for a while in London, um Daniel with Broadway. Emma with, with, with travelling and life, um it goes on and on and on. Um so the, the, there's certainly no um

• 39:29Speaker 03

  world where we wouldn't. I just think that, that everyone's pursuing their own sort of, I mean, I think, I think Rupert's a, a dad of two now. Is he or one? I don't know that.

• 39:39Josh Horowitz?

  Do you think Emma's done with acting? I hope Emma acts again. I mean, it's up to her, whatever makes her happy, but like, it's been a minute.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  I don't think there's anything she couldn't do. Uh, there's no one that I admire more really considering being cast uh for such a now pivotal role in history. At the time, nine years old.

• 39:59Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  She was doing what I did when I turned up for the Borrowers audition, being like, we're just making a movie. No one's making theme parks about the Borrowers. Is it a Christmas classic in the UK still?

• 40:10Josh Horowitz?

  Obviously. Well, also not to mention the, the added dimension of being a young woman, a young girl going through that is a whole nother level of complexity.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, needless to say, I, I can't relate to that and I can't even experience it, but, but um, you know, I just have huge admiration for all, all of them and um you know, actually, one of the proudest things is, this gets even more serendipitous.

• 40:36Speaker 03

  So Warwick Davis.

• 40:38Josh Horowitz?

  Love Warwick Davis.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  Yes, who plays Professor Flipwick as well as the Grip, uh Gripbook. He had his uh MB, uh was given an MBE, awarded an MBE yesterday where he was essentially, he's a ni- he's a knight of the round table as far as I'm concerned. But he, he's been um, he's the only. Person to really, uh, uh, well, he starred in Star Wars.

• 41:00Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Willow, name of my dog, not that they look each other like each other at all.

• 41:05Josh Horowitz?

  Was Willow named after Willow?

• 41:06Speaker 03

  Well, kind, no, no, no, it's more of a tree thing.

• 41:09Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, fair enough.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  But still, Willow is one of my favorite films growing up.

• 41:12Josh Horowitz?

  Me too.

• 41:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a, it's a, I, it's a, it's a cult classic. And then you've got him, obviously, in Potter in two different roles. The only actor to ever play that. Now he's back in Potter two point O.

• 41:24Josh Horowitz?

  That's right.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  So he's my inside scoop.

• 41:28Josh Horowitz?

  Is he, is he dropping some info? Has he given you some intel?

• 41:30Speaker 03

  I can't say too much. In fact, I've said too much.

• 41:34Josh Horowitz?

  Have you, have you connected with the young, with the young man playing Draco yet?

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, we, we, we've, um.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  I've sent, I've sent word.

• 41:43Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  Yes, I think it's really important. Uh, it's very diff- different from when we were entering things that don't exist. There's quite a lot of weight now on, yes. So the last thing I'm gonna do is offer anything other than say, here's my phone number.

• 42:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Here's my address to, to his parents as well as him, um, and to every, anyone else there like. You know, I can't offer you advice. This is your journey. Have as much fun as possible. Take as many pictures as you can, steal as many props as you can. That'd be worth a fortune. But also, if you do need.

• 42:23Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  A, a, a word of encouragement or, or, or questions to ask, um, I'm there. So I'm sort of happily taking a step back.

• 42:32Josh Horowitz?

  That's the healthy attitude.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 42:34Josh Horowitz?

  Can you, I mean, can you imagine like, it was hard enough for you guys, but like, you didn't really have social media like it is now. Like that thankfully wasn't even as omnipresent.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  No, it was, it was inconceivable. When you and I met, it didn't exist, did it? There was literally physical film cameras almost. So I, it, it took me a while the other day. Someone said, whether, how were the films shot? I was like, was it film? It's like, of course it was film. This is in an era where.

• 42:59Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 43:00Speaker 03

  The guy holding the mic boom, Tommy, was about seventy, one eye open, rolls a cigarette with one hand, smokes it while we're on a broomstick.

• 43:10Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  That's how Daniel and I, I grew up learning quidditch. Twenty-five years later. We're on Broadway together. That's mental. I refuse to be indifferent.

• 43:23Josh Horowitz?

  Do you still self-identify as Slytherin? Like, can that change as you grow older? Do you think you'll turn into a Hufflepuff at some point? Or are you Slytherin for life?

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Do you want me to leave this room right here?

• 43:32Josh Horowitz?

  Well, I didn't mean to insult you. Was that the most insulting thing I said?

• 43:35Speaker 03

  No, apparently people take it very seriously. I've called people that as a joke.

• 43:40Josh Horowitz?

  Called them Slytherin and they don't like it?

• 43:41Speaker 03

  Well, I do it sort of every night at stage door. I ask the youngsters what house they're in. And I can tell because they're head to toe in the regalia of the colors that would make me assume. And when they say Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, I steal their showbill, their playbill, and run away with it as a joke. But that often falls on deaf ears. Because they're very proud of their chosen house. And I have done the test several times. Well, sorry, twice. Because the first time I did it, I sort of cheated and tried to answer everything as Slytherin-y as I possibly could, which the Sorting Hat can't fool the Sorting Hat. Put me in Gryffindor, which-

• 44:24Josh Horowitz?

  How smart of you, yeah.

• 44:26Speaker 03

  Set me into a spiral.

• 44:27Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, that must have been the lowest point of your life.

• 44:32Josh Horowitz?

  Where'd Tom go? He's crying in the bathroom.

• 44:34Speaker 03

  Why are you bringing this up? No, but then I did my whole family, actually. I have three older brothers. All three got Hufflepuff.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  I know. My mum is a Gryffindor. My dad is a Ravenclaw. And, sorry, my dad's a Slytherin. And I happily can report officially, I am Team Slytherin.

• 45:01Josh Horowitz?

  You know, I did an event with Gary Oldman, I think, last year. And I asked him which house he's, has he sorted himself. The words didn't even compute to him. He didn't even understand what I was saying. It was like, did you read the scripts? Do you know what Harry Potter was? I'm not sure he does.

• 45:17Josh Horowitz?

  No, he was lovely.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  No, I'm sure he was. I mean, I'll say no more.

• 45:21Josh Horowitz?

  The sweetest man on the planet.

• 45:22Speaker 03

  I don't wanna speak.

• 45:23Josh Horowitz?

  Anyway, we called, we, we, we decided he's Hufflepuff. We decided he had the attributes of Hufflepuff.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  I, yes, I, yes, I would never go with that. I remember Sir Michael Gambell, you just reminded me of Sir Michael, bless his heart.

• 45:34Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  Or Dumbledore, um, who's now been played by John, John, John Lithgow.

• 45:40Josh Horowitz?

  Yes, he was also on Broadway.

• 45:42Speaker 03

  Yes, who I worked with on Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

• 45:45Josh Horowitz?

  Seen that one.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  That's not a bad one.

• 45:46Josh Horowitz?

  That's a good one.

• 45:47Speaker 03

  Four circle, um, you know what I mean?

• 45:50Josh Horowitz?

  What would I do?

• 45:50Speaker 03

  Are we in a simulation? Is this a simulation?

• 45:53Josh Horowitz?

  We're in the Matrix right now.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  We are, we are. But no, uh, um, Sir Michael would always do the same sort of dithering act where, you know, takes half a, takes half a minute to get the whole set quiet.

• 46:07Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 46:08Speaker 03

  Sound speed, ba da ba, quiet on set, close the doors, lock off, bell, red light. Everyone ready, set, set, set, set. And just before action, Sir Michael Gambell would whisper in your ear like, who am I playing again?

• 46:27Speaker 03

  While, while you're furiously trying to remember your lines and where to stand and what to do. He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where, where am I?

• 46:35Josh Horowitz?

  What are we doing? Oh, my God.

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Literally, so convincingly that you'd think this man's lost the plot, but.

• 46:40Josh Horowitz?

  I love it. Well, when, when like the best actor of the planet is saying that, that disarms you immediately, right?

• 46:45Speaker 03

  Even worse than that, he'd do that, you would look a bit confused and then, and action.

• 46:50Josh Horowitz?

  And he's right on it.

• 46:50Speaker 03

  He jumps straight into this epic performance and it's so admirable in both ways. And I like to, I like to think I've brought a bit of that with me. I've learned so much more from what the actors do offset that I've worked with growing up with the films that I have on. Obviously they're all brilliant on because it's the cream of the crop of the British, uh, you know, filming, acting world. But the, uh, how they, um, how do I say this politely? Mess with people.

• 47:21Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  And, and make sure that we're aware that we are playing here. You are just a child with a pirate hat on and a fake sword. You're not actually.

• 47:33Josh Horowitz?

  Hey, hey.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  But you know, is that is that sort of like professional stupidity that I I

• 47:40Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Try to bring into my

• 47:41Josh Horowitz?

  Once the joy goes out of it, what's the point?

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Precisely. Uh, let's not pretend that we're we're doing something actually, um.

• 47:49Josh Horowitz?

  Well, you are, but just don't think about it that way. I think is the key. Like, I mean, it means a lot. As you know, it means a lot to so many people and can affect lives. But once you if you start to buy into that in your own brain.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Exactly. Like so, like in many different ways. Sir Michael Gambon would just take the piss out of himself and everyone immediately.

• 48:07Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 48:07Speaker 03

  That was a very way of disarming everyone for us to act freely. I told you the story already about the the time that we had a scene together and it's Draco killing Dumbledore. It's a big one.

• 48:23Speaker 03

  It's a big one, but I didn't really think about anything like that too much until I got on set that day. There's only a handful of lines. It wasn't particularly a long thing to have to like learn, but for some reason, because everyone was there on set that day, I must have bumbled my way through the first three attempts of saying my line, um, which I'm sure you'll put a clip up now.

• 48:46Josh Horowitz?

  Roll it.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  And, uh, the first three I sort of messed up and got them almost, um, grammatically wrong, but also back to front. He asked for a tea break, which no one says no to Sir Michael Gambon, or Dumbledore rather, and he had a big, long beard uh, in the film, but he just had a cloak that went round it to sort of protect the beard for when he went out for a breath of fresh air.

• 49:12Josh Horowitz?

  Sure.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  And he invited me out for a breath of fresh air. And I said, okay, okay, which of course I went out and just apologized profusely. I said, I'm sorry, sir. He never liked to be called Sir Michael, but Mickey, uh, Mickey G would, he was he'd stare at me as if he was pissed off. Uh, for a second, I'd say, I'm sorry, I I've promised you I've rehearsed the lines. I've done everything I possibly can do to he's like, just give me a couple more takes, you know, an apologetic seventeen year old desperately trying to keep up with world's finest actors is not a great place to be.

• 49:47Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  He offers you a cigarette, uh, breath of fresh air.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Fucked that up, didn't I? Ah, but anyway, and then and then says, dear boy.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  Do you have any idea how much they pay me per day to be here? If you keep effing it up at this rate, tomorrow I have a new Ferrari.

• 50:09Speaker 03

  And I took it deadly serious, like, before I realized that this man is taking a piss. And he cares as much as I do to just relax, man, have some fun. And next take, that's the one they used.

• 50:26Josh Horowitz?

  What a legend, what a legend.

• 50:29Josh Horowitz?

  Where are you at on on Cursed Child eventually becoming a movie today? As you're like doing, living in this day after day, night after night. Do you have hope for that at this point?

• 50:37Speaker 03

  No, I think that I think they're two separate beasts in a way. I think they um, two separate dragons, I think, especially with the new one. I'm I'm really happy about the the the series sort of leaning into the fact that there's so much content. There's so much stuff that we had to cut out of film one, film two, because you just can't make a five hour film.

• 50:55Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 50:55Speaker 03

  And expect kids to to sit through it. So there's so many characters and so many bits and pieces that that hopefully will be indulged in the new um, in the new series. As far as The Cursed Child, I'm really proud of bringing people to the theater. Not just on Broadway, but around the world. Obviously Broadway is the biggest platform, stage for it. But there is um, there's Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, which by the way, I've seen all of these in Amsterdam, there's one in Hamburg, there's one in Japan, uh, there's

• 51:33Josh Horowitz?

  One's the China one, because you should sign up for that one.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  See?

• 51:39Josh Horowitz?

  Still got it.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  Seriously, write that one down, Alex. That's a good idea. Although my Mandarin is not that great. How's your Cantonese?

• 51:47Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, packable.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  You play Potter. Why not? At this stage, it could be even mad. But yeah, this, this, you know, it's such, it's such a globally like loved thing and celebrated in its own ways. I'm so proud that theater is, is still as prominent as is reading physical books.

• 52:12Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 52:13Speaker 03

  You know, there's something about, when I went to go see Dan's show, the best thing about it, other than him, was there was a an older couple in front of me and they, they touched each other's hands at certain points, which clearly meant something to them. I don't know what that was, they never saw me. And I did the same with like, you know, to myself, and I think probably the people behind me could, could feel that. And it's a shared experience and it's something that is I, a dying um commodity, and I think we undervalue, as easy as it is to sit home and just.

• 52:50Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  You know?

• 52:52Josh Horowitz?

  There is something transcendent about the theater. Really, it's, there's, yeah.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  And I feel like, well, the likes of you and your passion for it and your depth of knowledge and your piss poor chat. It keeps it, it helps keep it alive. So I'm, I'm very passionate about that.

• 53:08Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, before we end with our profoundly random questions, I'm gonna ask you this.

• 53:12Speaker 03

  Christ, here we go.

• 53:13Josh Horowitz?

  Calm down. Which is the best of the Potter films? What's your favorite? Objectively speaking, subjectively speaking, I suppose, the best Harry Potter film is?

• 53:23Speaker 03

  Fake one.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  Quite famously, I've never, I've never seen them more than once.

• 53:29Josh Horowitz?

  Apparently not famously, I didn't, you, you've never gone back.

• 53:32Speaker 03

  No, I've not gone back, not because I'm not a fan. I am a huge fan of the books more than anything, but. I was forced to go see them at the premieres. Cause two of my brothers fell asleep through each one at some point or other. I think my dad did the the fifth one, um, but it's more that I'm saving them. I see them, they're on TV or there's a Harry Potter channel, I think in England now, they just play them on loop. My friends send me videos, some friends send me pictures. It's quite embarrassing what looking at yourself when you're a little, I know Daniel Radcliffe, I don't imagine he's watched them a thousand times.

• 54:13Josh Horowitz?

  It's in his dressing room, it's on a loop.

• 54:14Speaker 03

  I don't think that's true.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  But I'm saving them for one day, maybe if I had little ones or or I'm a little older or. I still feel like I'm reinventing Draco as we speak, let alone time to look back at them. Um, I suppose the best person to ask is someone that knows film well. Wait, what's your favorite Harry Potter?

• 54:38Josh Horowitz?

  I've never seen the myself either.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  Oh, my days.

• 54:41Josh Horowitz?

  Are they good? Do they do well?

• 54:43Speaker 03

  Tell me you're joking.

• 54:44Josh Horowitz?

  What are you talking?

• 54:45Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 54:47Josh Horowitz?

  Can you imagine?

• 54:48Speaker 03

  I my my favorite that well, I'll say bluntly that the the second film Chamber of Secrets was always fun. Cause there was a giant snake basilisk in it and and Alan Rickman was in full form and we were, we knew our characters a little bit better than. The sixth one was the most um rewarding for me as an actor. I certainly wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now without the training and the learning of what proper acting sort of. Is or was before that, it was a lot of standing in the corner and looking like a slimy kid.

• 55:21Josh Horowitz?

  Well, there there is that evolution for every young actor, child actor. It's like your cast kind of, and you've said this before, it was kind of, you guys were cast because like you kind of resembled the characters. You fit the type and you had like a a natural charisma, but it's only years later that you actually learn technique and kind of the craft.

• 55:38Speaker 03

  Hundred percent. Look at Radcliffe. I'm sure he won't mind me saying this. He's a terrible actor.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  He'll know I'm joking. He'll know I'm joking. But no, but he'll say that he'll be the first person to say it's it's working with Gary Oldman.

• 55:53Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  Helen Bonham Carter, uh, J- Jason Isaacs and whatever, not just on the screen, what they do is how they

• 56:01Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 56:01Speaker 03

  pair and how they treat the the the art or whatever um in a playful way. I, yeah, we all learn from different people and certainly no one's been exposed to better teachers than than he has. And now look, he's in a one man show on Broadway.

• 56:17Josh Horowitz?

  Crazy. Okay, profoundly random questions.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  Okay, come on then.

• 56:21Josh Horowitz?

  We know the answer to this one. Dogs or cats?

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Dogs.

• 56:25Josh Horowitz?

  What do you collect, if anything?

• 56:28Speaker 03

  Guitars, instruments, doors.

• 56:31Josh Horowitz?

  Doors? How does that work?

• 56:34Speaker 03

  I feared saying this one. I just like, I'd like the doors. Not, I like the band, but also.

• 56:41Josh Horowitz?

  You gonna take the door to this room with you?

• 56:43Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no. It's more a um, they tell a story, don't they? Like ancient doors and like

• 56:49Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 56:50Speaker 03

  Um Indonesian doors, that's how it started. And then Japanese doors. Um, I won't lie, it's become a very impractical collective all. Cause you have to put them somewhere.

• 57:00Josh Horowitz?

  This is true. New York apartments are tough.

• 57:02Speaker 03

  They're door full. I am, there's nowhere to put. Uh, go on.

• 57:07Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, favorite.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  First of all, cause you must be, you must be a collector.

• 57:11Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, I, you could probably guess this. I mean, I have something of a movie poster collection.

• 57:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 57:15Josh Horowitz?

  That's but, but also that's a problem too. It's there. None of them are up. I have like three up. Like it's in my closet. I just have them stored.

• 57:22Speaker 03

  I have a huge apartment with empty walls waiting. Are you saying?

• 57:29Josh Horowitz?

  For my Willow poster?

• 57:30Speaker 03

  You're willing to put your entire collection up in my house.

• 57:33Josh Horowitz?

  The Horowitz poster gallery in Tom Felton's apartment.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  So generous of you. I can't believe.

• 57:38Josh Horowitz?

  We're gonna open it to the public. Are you okay with that?

• 57:39Speaker 03

  I knew. We'll discuss that one later.

• 57:42Josh Horowitz?

  Uh, favorite video game of all time?

• 57:46Speaker 03

  First thing that comes to head, Super Mario, Sonic the Hedgehog,

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Golden Island N sixty-four. I haven't really, I have adopted the modern one, but I'm just, I'm not as, well, not as young as I was.

• 58:03Josh Horowitz?

  Those fingers aren't as facile as they used to be.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  It used to be X A B Y, that was it.

• 58:08Josh Horowitz?

  Too many buttons.

• 58:08Speaker 03

  What about you?

• 58:09Josh Horowitz?

  I'm kind of similar. I mean, I was a Sega kid, so I was kind of like Sonic. I was kind of a Sonic the Hedgehog. Tommy Lasorda baseball, oh my god, I was a big baseball kid.

• 58:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 58:20Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, you're okay. Baseball, so I mean, we play over here. Dakota Johnson Memorial question.

• 58:26Speaker 03

  Have you been watching it? She's just, sorry, I just saw the baseball, they're having, they're having an international thing right now, aren't they? I saw UK versus USA.

• 58:33Josh Horowitz?

  You're going down.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  I know. In the first innings, if that's what you call it, we were one nil up.

• 58:39Josh Horowitz?

  Don't say innings like that, it betrays how ignorant you are.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  I don't know. I know you whipped our ass in the, in the end, but yes, crack on.

• 58:45Josh Horowitz?

  Dakota Johnson Memorial question, she asked me this, I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt?

• 58:53Speaker 03

  The most redundant question you could have had. A one mouth of bees or a bee in my?

• 58:57Josh Horowitz?

  You have a single, single bee in the butt or a mouthful of bees?

• 59:03Speaker 03

  Mouthful of bees, I get on very well.

• 59:05Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, okay. What's the wallpaper on your phone?

• 59:10Speaker 03

  My dog Willow, standing in a puddle. She has an obsession with water, because she grew up in Venice Beach with me. First three years, so when she sees water, it's dangerous. Like, she will literally pretend to, and then go boom, and she will bolt half a mile towards water. And unfortunately, in certain situations, she doesn't have that.

• 59:31Josh Horowitz?

  Right. Is she apt to like jump into a pool if she sees one?

• 59:34Speaker 03

  Well, I'm like, dude, you're kidding me, she'll do that. So that's a picture of her standing in a puddle.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  So it's a muddy puddle, and I'm like, no, no, no, Willow, don't do that. But she'll just go up to the puddle and just stand in it to literally dip her toe, paw.

• 59:52Josh Horowitz?

  She's, she's a dog, just seeing another.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  I know.

• 59:56Josh Horowitz?

  Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? Does it ever happen?

• 59:59Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. There's three brilliant ones.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Aaron Paul.

• 1:00:05Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  Had that one a few times, which I'm always proud of. Yeah, bitch. Him and I, him and I are good friends over that, because I think he's been mistaken.

• 1:00:15Speaker 03

  Remind me the name of the gentleman from Malcolm and.

• 1:00:19Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, oh, are we talking older or younger? The kid, the kid?

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:00:24Josh Horowitz?

  Frankie Muniz, Bryan Cranston?

• 1:00:25Speaker 03

  No, no, no, Bryan Cranston.

• 1:00:27Josh Horowitz?

  I'm listed to cast, Jane Casmaric. That's what I'm saying.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  The guy who plays Malcolm.

• 1:00:32Josh Horowitz?

  I said Frankie Muniz.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Okay, thank you. Sorry, I didn't know his name. I was just testing. Yes, I have had that once or twice, which again is a compliment, great actor, etc. My favorite. Um, I think it was in Oklahoma. I was in a McDonald's at the end of a shoot, or end of a day shooting. In line, it was like ten people and a young woman tapped me on the back and said, uh, excuse me. Are you, I know this is weird. I just, is there any way that, are you, I was like. I nearly said, yes, I am the guy from the wizarding thing. But she, yeah, but yeah, basically that. And instead, she interrupted me and said. Uh, Ryan Gosling?

• 1:01:18Josh Horowitz?

  I don't mean to laugh.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

  You laughed a little too loud. Oh, I laughed and then said, are you serious? She said, yes, I think. Are you Ryan Gosling? I was like, no, but can I get that in writing? And then she, she was like, no, she didn't ask for anything more than that. So we stood up and I. Made sure that I paid for her, uh, meal behind me.

• 1:01:38Josh Horowitz?

  And you married that woman, right?

• 1:01:41Speaker 03

  That's where we're at. No, I did not, but it was a, it was a, a, a nice reminder that we're not all as, um. Familiar as each other.

• 1:01:50Josh Horowitz?

  I'm literally doing, Ryan, Ryan's doing the podcast next week. If I ask him the same question, he says Tom Felton.

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  Well, he'd be lucky.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Well, please pass that on.

• 1:02:00Josh Horowitz?

  I will. Worst noted director has ever given you?

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  It's also one of the best.

• 1:02:05Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  Die better.

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  I was killed in a film, I shall mention it, but my neck was snapped and uh and I did my best. You know, if I was to snap your neck, exactly, you go, you do like a thing.

• 1:02:25Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 1:02:26Speaker 03

  And you don't practice that in drama school, not that I went to drama school, but you I I never practiced that. And even if you did, you couldn't see yourself in the mirror. So I just gave it my best crack and he sort of said, cut. Came up with like a

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  die better.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:02:47Josh Horowitz?

  Did you? Were you able to execute?

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  I mean, they didn't cut it from the movie. But you'd never have heard of the movie, so.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  But yeah, sometimes you've got to be blunt, and that was one of them.

• 1:02:57Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, my God. All right. And finally, in the spirit of happy, sad confused, an actor who always makes you happy. Immediately, they put you in a good mood if you see them in a film.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  Oh, crucky, put me on the spot. Um, Tom Hanks. Or hear him because Toy Story still warms my heart.

• 1:03:15Josh Horowitz?

  He's a frequent mention in that category.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  What's yours?

• 1:03:18Josh Horowitz?

  Um. Will Ferrell.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  It's about time someone pinged some questions back at you. Yeah, yeah, good.

• 1:03:26Josh Horowitz?

  Finally, someone cares.

• 1:03:28Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:03:28Josh Horowitz?

  A movie that makes you sad.

• 1:03:34Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:03:37Speaker 03

  Like, you mean the sad in a good way?

• 1:03:39Josh Horowitz?

  It could be, you can take it however you want.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  No, like I was just, I said, my mind launched into, because we talked about Gosling, I was like Notebook.

• 1:03:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, Blue Valentine.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  Classic love, yeah. Um, but sad, um, hmm. Let's just go with the notebook, because it's a gorgeous love story and I cry every time.

• 1:03:58Josh Horowitz?

  And a food that makes you confused. You don't understand. Why do people eat that?

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  Many.

• 1:04:05Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, you're picky.

• 1:04:06Speaker 03

  Many. I have a bland diet, the palate of a nine-year-old, as my mom would say, but uh. I was gonna say ramen, but actually I quite enjoy like the simple. I just have to have to have the child's version of every.

• 1:04:19Josh Horowitz?

  Just not, not a lot of spices, a little kind of like.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  Just a little mild. I have hypersensitive taste buds.

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  The rest of you are.

• 1:04:26Josh Horowitz?

  Got a sensitive tummy.

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  Possibly.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  No, I just like, I'm a bit of a grazer. Like last night, we went for dinner and um. Was with, with producers of various different plays and they had, I think they had caviar. Uh, and something else that I can't even remember what the name was, duck l'orange or something. I had mac and cheese.

• 1:04:50Josh Horowitz?

  You are a child.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  And bread.

• 1:04:52Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Josh Horowitz?

  Where's the kids' menu?

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  That literally was off the kids' menu, because the portions are smaller. And you save money. That's the life hack there, guys.

• 1:05:00Josh Horowitz?

  That's great. Well, you're spending all your money on doors. You need to like figure out, you need to balance it all out. We did it, Tom. How are you feeling?

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  I'm all right. I feel fine. I hope um you'll cut out anything embarrassing I've said, because.

• 1:05:12Josh Horowitz?

  We'd have two minutes left. There's not, that's.

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  All right, but I just feel, well.

• 1:05:17Josh Horowitz?

  You feel exposed?

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  Well, yes, but I trust you'll make me look okay.

• 1:05:21Josh Horowitz?

  You made yourself look okay. You were brilliant and charming as always.

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  But also, I didn't do this for anyone else other than myself to be like, I can't believe that we're here.

• 1:05:30Josh Horowitz?

  I love it. I was truly, I'll say earnestly again, it was so moving to see you on stage the other night. Like, to see you on the journey and to see you just killing it on stage night after night. I'm so proud of you. I'm so happy for you.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  Cheers, mate.

• 1:05:41Josh Horowitz?

  And um.

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  Cause you, you met me when I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've aged considerably.

• 1:05:48Josh Horowitz?

  I know. What?

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  You're the, you're the same height and you look younger. Do you know how weird it is for me? Like, yeah, it's bizarre. I'm going back in time.

• 1:06:00Josh Horowitz?

  Been taking those magical Harry Potter potions.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  And now people are actually listening to you.

• 1:06:04Josh Horowitz?

  It's because of you. Um, enjoy yourself in Austin.

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  Thanks, mate. I really, I really appreciate all your support and love and I, I do, I do listen and watch you uh a lot. And I love to see um.

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  The passion and love for what you do is not dwindled. And we shouldn't, we shouldn't underestimate that.

• 1:06:23Josh Horowitz?

  We're both still getting a kick out of what we do.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:06:26Josh Horowitz?

  Which is pretty cool. Enjoy, Austin. Everybody check out They Will Kill You and Tom, thanks again.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  They Will Kill You, March 27th.

• 1:06:33Josh Horowitz?

  We did it.

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't prepared to do this by Josh.

• 1:06:54Speaker 06

  From the parents behind Law and Order comes a mystery the whole family can enjoy. Patrick Picklebottom Everyday Mysteries. Step into the whimsical world of Patrick Picklebottom, a precocious 11-year-old with a love for reading and an uncanny ability to solve mysteries. Inspired by the beloved children's book of the same name, this podcast vividly brings Patrick's tales of deduction and everyday adventures to life as he unravels baffling enigmas and solves clever cases. Patrick Picklebottom Everyday Mysteries is perfect for kids and is just as entertaining for grownups who love a good mystery. The whole family can listen now, wherever you get your podcasts.