Stanley Tucci, Vol. II

Meryl Streep said it best. "It's impossible not to love Stanley Tucci." Here he proves it with a charming conversation with Josh about THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA 2, TUCCI IN ITALY, the ebbs & flows of a remarkable career and why The Olive Garden isn't for him. Watch on Spotify. If you’re subscribed to Spotify Premium, you don’t get any Spotify ads on my video. SUPPORT THE SHOW BY SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS! Rula -- Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/happy⁠⁠ #rulapod Quince -- Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince.com/HAPPYSAD ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for free shipping and 365-day returns. Limited Time Offer–Get Huel today with my exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with my code happy15 at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://huel.com/happy15.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partnering and supporting our show! UPCOMING EVENTS! 5/13 -- Matt & Ross Duffer in LA -- ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 5/17 -- Billy Eichner in NY -- ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets here⁠⁠⁠⁠ 5/18 -- Power Ballad w/Paul Rudd & Nick Jonas -- ⁠⁠Tickets here⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games. Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Hey Mitch. You've been trying to take down these games from Star.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  Film for IMAX.

• 0:38Speaker 02

  Make them remember you.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Weeping, November 20th, rated PG-13.

• 0:45Josh Horowitz?

  When you first read in the script, the words "gird your loins",

• 0:52Josh Horowitz?

  do you have questions? Do you say, "Yeah, this, this works. I can make this work"?

• 0:57Speaker 04

  No, no, here's the thing. That, that was not in the script. It was David. We came up with a list of things to say. Mine would have changed the rating of the film.

• 1:10Speaker 04

  But David came up with "gird your loins",

• 1:13Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 1:14Speaker 04

  And it was, it was perfect. Perfect. He's brilliant.

• 1:20Josh Horowitz?

  Have you reconciled that you are going to be heckled with that line till your last day on earth?

• 1:25Speaker 04

  No, it's gonna be on my tombstone.

• 1:30Josh Horowitz?

  Girding his loins in perpetuity.

• 1:34Speaker 05

  Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins.

• 1:42Josh Horowitz?

  Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy Sad Confused. Today on the show, a legend is in the house. Stanley Tucci, Talking Devil, where's Prada 2? Tucci in Italy, his entire career. This is an awesome one. Thanks, guys, as always, for checking out the podcast. If you subscribe on Spotify, I want to give a shout out to my Spotify listeners and viewers. Thank you, thank you. Remember, Spotify Premium, you can watch the episodes with no ads. Just another fun way to experience Happy Sad Confused. Check us out on Spotify if you haven't already. Already. Um, this is such a treat. We did a live event with Stanley Tucci to a virtually sold out crowd in New York City. Um, he's an icon. Somewhere along the line, this character actor turned into an icon and it's well deserved. He's a class act. He's got a

• 2:26Josh Horowitz?

  lot going on. As I said, not only Devil Wears Prada 2, which everybody is seeing, uh, but his Tucci in Italy series on Nat Geo, which I love and adore. Stanley Tucci, Italy, food, sold. All the good things in life. All right. Before we get to Stanley Tucci, there's some reminders as always, patreon.com/happy sad confused. That's where you get all the early access to everything we do over here. You get discount codes to our live events. You get access to free merch. You get autographed posters and all sorts of fun stuff. If you like what I do, check us out over there. Patreon.com/happy sad confused. And I mentioned the live events. We do so many of those. Obviously Stanley was at a live event in New York City, but we also have events coming up in Los Angeles. I'll remind you guys if you don't

• 3:10Josh Horowitz?

  know already, May 13th with the Stranger Things guys, the Duffer Brothers who don't talk that much. They are doing a live event with the evening of May 13th. Tickets are available. Check it out. We are also giving away some free cool stuff at that one, I'll say. And we're going to dive deep into Stranger Things. There's some cool surprises at that event. Get in on it if you can. Then I'll be back in New York, May 17th with Billy Eichner, uh, May 18th with Nick Jonas, Paul Rudd, and director John Carney. Yeah, lots coming up, more to come that we can't announce yet. Um, yeah, we keep busy around here, safe to say. Okay. Not much more preamble because Stanley Tucci is one of those guys that doesn't really need much of an introduction. We have all grown up loving what he can do. Um, his career is so

• 3:52Josh Horowitz?

  multifaceted, whether you love him from Big Night or The Hunger Games, Spotlight. I mean, I could rattle off 20 great Stanley Tucci performances and it's the tip of the iceberg. So, real treat to catch up with him, to talk about his entire career and these two new exciting projects, Devil Wears Prada 2 and Tucci in Italy. Uh, so without any further ado, let me take you to our live event at the 92nd Street Y in New York City, me and Stanley Tucci. Enjoy. Hi, everybody. How's it going? Welcome to the 92nd Street Y. Hi, everybody. My name's Josh Horowitz. I host a podcast called Happy Sad Confused and you're inside of it right now. Thank you for coming out today. Thank you for selling out this theater for a very good cause. Stanley Tucci is here. Are you ready?

• 4:38Josh Horowitz?

  Thank you guys again for being here. Let me tell you, there is such a joy and a panic in prepping for Stanley Tucci. This man has lived such a life, so many amazing on-screen credits. He has lived every kind of life. He's like social media's favorite mixologist. He's a great director. He can do it all. And currently, as Taj just mentioned, he's got the number one film in the world, The Devil Wears Prada 2, which I'm sure you all saw. He's got my favorite show, Tucci in Italy, coming back for a second season on Nat Geo on May 11th. Amazing. Yes, give it up. We're gonna talk about all of that and much, much more. Please give a warm welcome to the one and only, it's Stanley Tucci, everybody.

• 5:38Josh Horowitz?

  Stanley, how are you still standing? We've seen you on social media. You're running around the world. This has been quite the press tour for Prada 2. You doing all right?

• 5:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 5:47Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  No, I'm fine.

• 5:50Josh Horowitz?

  We got you a comfortable seat.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's tiring. You know, it's funny, the press junket thing. But, you know, you do it because you do it.

• 6:01Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, well, there's a lot to celebrate, including, look, there are certain markers in someone's life when you're an actor, and sometimes it's awards and nominations, sometimes it's box office. You also, you just got your star on the Walk of Fame.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did. Thank you.

• 6:18Speaker 04

  Thanks. Thank you, yeah. It was, yeah, it was very exciting.

• 6:23Josh Horowitz?

  Does it make you a little bit reflective? Like, do you have that kind of like, wait, I was a kid once that dreamed of this life?

• 6:29Speaker 04

  Yes, no question. You know, you always dreamed that it might happen. And then it happens and you're sort of shocked that it happened, you know. It took them long enough. But I, no, I was really especially happy to have, you know, like Matt Damon there and Merrill speaking and, you know, Robert and Dwayne speaking for Emily. But I think particularly to have it with Emily and now that they're sort of side by side is really lovely.

• 7:05Josh Horowitz?

  It's also, you mentioned Merrill, who you've worked with a few times and I know you're friends with beyond just being a screen partner. To hear her words at that event was pretty amazing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna say a few of them here today. She said, "It's impossible not to love Stanley Tucci." Fair enough. Fact check, is that correct? Can you attest to that?

• 7:23Speaker 04

  Oh, there's no question about that, yeah.

• 7:25Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, okay. She also called you, here are a few words she, she name checked for you. Tell me if these are true or not. Would you call yourself urbane?

• 7:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, I guess, yeah.

• 7:35Josh Horowitz?

  Sly?

• 7:36Speaker 04

  Sly?

• 7:37Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 7:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:41Josh Horowitz?

  Funny?

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:44Josh Horowitz?

  Now we get to the good stuff. Bitchy?

• 7:46Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 7:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. She said you're one of the world's great complainers.

• 7:51Speaker 04

  Yes, I am. That's why I'm here tonight.

• 7:57Josh Horowitz?

  What's, what's a favorite subject to complain about?

• 8:00Speaker 04

  Oh, anything. I could complain about anything. And so can she. Which is why we get along so well.

• 8:06Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  Yeah. I, making, you know, Tucci in Italy, I'd sit with Lottie, who is my producing partner. Used to be my assistant, now my producing partner. She's extraordinary. And we'd be in the car for hours and hours, you know, going from the hotel to one location. And there'd be these long silences. And then I would just turn to her and say, "Do you know who I hate?"

• 8:42Josh Horowitz?

  I promised your publicist backstage I wouldn't bring you down tonight.

• 8:45Speaker 04

  No, no, don't do it, don't do it.

• 8:46Josh Horowitz?

  No.

• 8:49Josh Horowitz?

  We'll be right back with more Happy Sad Confused.

• 8:54Speaker 00

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• 9:24Speaker 01

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games. Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  Film for IMAX.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Make them remember you.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Leaping, November 20th, rated PG-13.

• 9:43Josh Horowitz?

  Here's a broader question, as we're talking, being a little reflective. When did your parents stop worrying about you, your career? Because...

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Never.

• 9:51Josh Horowitz?

  Was there a demarcation point? There was never like a movie, an accomplishment, anything?

• 9:55Speaker 04

  No, nor did I ever stop worrying about my career. You never do. Because a career in show business ebbs and flows. And there was a lot of ebbing for a while. It consistent ebbing. Like after the first Devil Wears Brata, yeah, I mean, I couldn't really get a job. Which I know, sounds weird, but it's true.

• 10:24Josh Horowitz?

  So, does that mean a satisfactory job? Or literally any job? You could...

• 10:28Speaker 04

  No, no, I could get a job, but it wasn't a job that was... They were less than lateral moves.

• 10:34Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  Right? So, it wasn't...

• 10:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, and also just not, I mean, I had a family. You know, I had a mortgage.

• 10:43Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. My wi- my late wife was ill. And I needed to find something that, you know, was satisfying, but also that was, that would bring me money to be able to, you know, whatever.

• 10:58Josh Horowitz?

  And is it just about powering through those, those ebbs? Just sort of like,

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:02Josh Horowitz?

  You know that the next.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, you have to, yeah. Drink your way through it.

• 11:08Josh Horowitz?

  Right, no.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  No, you, no, you have to keep communicating with your representation.

• 11:16Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 11:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:17Josh Horowitz?

  I men- I mentioned your parents. I mean, it strikes me, like, reading a little bit about your background that, I mean, we're all the sum of our, our two parents.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 11:24Josh Horowitz?

  But you especially, I mean, dad, an art teacher, a true lover of the arts, the fine arts. Mom, you often describe as like the greatest cook in existence. There's Stanley Tucci, right there. Artists.

• 11:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:38Josh Horowitz?

  Woody.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:38Josh Horowitz?

  Nutshell, basically.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  Not nearly as talented as both of them, but they gave me a lot of tools. And they gave me, you know, they gave me a vision and they gave me a palette.

• 11:54Josh Horowitz?

  Were they supportive when you, was there a moment where you said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make a go of this and were they immediately supportive?

• 12:00Speaker 04

  They were very supportive, they were. They knew that I wanted possibly to be, and I, I thought about being an architect. But my math skills are tragic. So that wasn't gonna happen. Um, and, uh, and I said, this is what I want to do. And they were incredibly supportive, yeah. I know my mother still worries when I, last year, I had like a little time off. And she, she was like, so how are you? You know, we talked once, twice a week, something. And she said, how are you? I said, I'm good. And she goes, so what are you, what are you doing?

• 12:43Speaker 04

  And I was like, well, I'm just, you know, taking time, being with the kids. And I have meetings, you know, at the office and stuff, or this and that, or charity stuff, or whatever, you know, blah, blah, blah. There's a pause. And they're like, oh, she thinks that I'm never gonna work again.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  I understand it. I understand it.

• 13:10Josh Horowitz?

  Does she have a favorite film of yours and your filmography?

• 13:12Speaker 04

  Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. She doesn't. She's never seen anything. No, I don't know. I don't know.

• 13:20Josh Horowitz?

  All right, let's talk about first, I want to get to Tucci in Italy, but I want to start with Devil Wears Prada 2, which, what a remarkable, I mean, this must be so surreal for you. I mean, the first one was lightning in a bottle, and here we are 20 years later. This doesn't happen in this way. Was the first one, first looking back at the first one, is that in a career filled with surprises, one of the most surprising moments in your career, the way that one hit and continued to hit?

• 13:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, absolutely. It was a great honor to be a part of it, and it was... I remember the last day of shooting, I didn't want to leave. It was so much fun. You know, I met Emily, who became my dear friend, and then, you know, my sister-in-law.

• 14:06Speaker 04

  You know, I got to work with Meryl, I had known her, but we'd never worked together. I met Annie and David and all these wonderful people. It was great, but I, we knew we were making a good movie, you know, but we had no idea that it would result in something that would become really the sort of Hollywood classic.

• 14:28Josh Horowitz?

  When you first read in the script the words "gird your loins",

• 14:35Josh Horowitz?

  do you have questions? Do you say, "Yeah, this works. I can make this work"?

• 14:39Speaker 04

  No, here's the thing, that was not in the script. It was David, we came up with a list of things to say. Mine would have changed the rating of the film.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  But David came up with "gird your loins",

• 14:56Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  And it was perfect. Perfect. He's brilliant.

• 15:03Josh Horowitz?

  Have you reconciled that you are going to be heckled with that line till your last day on earth?

• 15:08Speaker 04

  No, it's gonna be on my tombstone.

• 15:13Josh Horowitz?

  Girding his loins in perpetuity.

• 15:19Josh Horowitz?

  You mentioned Meryl, you of course worked with her on these two films, and Julia and Julia. And I mean, we don't need to sell the audience on her as a talented actor, but I do feel like sometimes we, in a weird way, we take her for granted because she does make it look so easy. And I kind of, I've heard her talk a lot on this press tour, and she's so kind of self-deprecating and saying like, I don't know what I'm doing after all these. Like, how much of that, in your experience of watching her up close, is for real? How much of that is her just being humble, having seen her do it up close? What's your perspective on her and her approach to the work?

• 15:53Speaker 04

  I think it's all of that. I think sometimes, sometimes we don't know what we're doing. And you're not supposed to know what you're doing. Because if you know what you're doing all the time, it won't read, it won't be truthful, and it won't, it won't be surprising, right?

• 16:13Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 16:14Speaker 04

  So, she is that perfect dichotomy of, of an artist, which is, there's this incredible technique, an amazing intellect, but then, complete spontaneity. That's, that's the place you want to be as an actor, as a painter, as a writer, as a whatever, where she is every time that camera starts rolling.

• 16:41Josh Horowitz?

  I think it's also, it struck me when I was watching this one, how much is unspoken between your two characters and the, and the long history there is between them. And I've heard you speak in previous interviews about the value you placed in actors that are like silent actors, that just like active listeners. You mentioned like Joe Pesci, I think from Someone Like That. Is that something, is that something that is important to you as an actor? That sometimes silence is as valuable as a great line?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Oh yeah. I mean, I always take away lines from scripts, I don't, from my dialogue. I don't, because I think, a lot of times, writers will, when I might consider overwrite, in order to... Get the information across or whatever. And a lot of times, you don't need that. You don't. Let me, I'll take care of it. I don't need to say that. The way I walk into a room with one look, you can, you can got three lines.

• 17:42Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. It's also probably tied often maybe to a younger actor who thinks they have to over-deliver and it's maybe the confidence of, with an eyebrow raised, with a look, you can convey.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, and a lot of times actors want more lines. At my age, I don't want any lines. Cause I can't even remember them, you know?

• 18:03Josh Horowitz?

  So as I alluded to before, it took a long time to get to this place where the sequel arrived. Like was there, did, did you have input like in terms of what you didn't want to see for your character or did want to see for Nigel all these years later? Was there anything that would have been a deal breaker for you?

• 18:18Speaker 04

  I didn't want to see, I didn't want to, for it to be too self-referential.

• 18:28Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? I mean, this is vaguely self-referential.

• 18:33Josh Horowitz?

  It's a balance.

• 18:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's a balance and you have to find the right thing. You can't just suddenly try to repeat all the things that were successful in the, in the first film. It has to have moved on. What I liked about it was that Nigel was very much the same person. And he's just as Emily described, just a little more world-weary. And I think the scene that I thought was so well-written, where she comes in and explains to me what's happening with, that the whole thing is really falling apart and I paid no attention to it at all.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  I completely ignore it and move on to what's in front of me to let her know like, it's not a conversation that we need to have.

• 19:22Josh Horowitz?

  Just a resignation of this is the life that I've chosen.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, but also that he's always working on something behind the scenes.

• 19:31Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 19:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:32Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 19:33Speaker 04

  He knows everything.

• 19:35Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  Everything.

• 19:37Josh Horowitz?

  I referenced and they saw the trailer and I told you backstage, you've cracked the code, sir. Tucci in Italy is the gift that keeps on giving for all of us and hopefully for you. Hopefully you're getting a modicum of as much enjoyment as we all are out of the show because it's fantastic.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 19:51Josh Horowitz?

  It's coming back on May 11th on Nat Geo. Italy, you spent time in Italy growing up, yes? Was, did you, I mean, has this kind of, not that you needed a stronger bond with the country, but what has this done for your own ties to Italy to shoot this show the last few years?

• 20:08Speaker 04

  Oh, it's, it's been incredible. I always loved Italy. I lived there, I lived in Florence when I was 12, 13. So this is 1973. And I, it was just incredible. You know, coming from Westchester, New York, I'd never been on a plane before. I'd maybe been in New York City once or twice. It was life-changing. And that, without question, informed my, how I saw the world and what kind of world I wanted to live in. And I always, and I realized as I got older and I traveled to Europe, that I felt more comfortable in Europe than

• 20:49Speaker 04

  I did living in America. And I'm going to Italy, I felt incredibly comfortable. I don't know that I'd want to live there because there are so many Italians.

• 21:00Josh Horowitz?

  That's the thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, and I get it.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  But, terrible joke. But there's, yeah, there, I think it is, there is something truly, I hate to use the word, but magical about Italy and those people who have survived countless invasions, countless corrupt, inept governments, and yet they persevere.

• 21:33Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. What do you, at this point, judge a good Italian restaurant on? What's the dish they need to do right in order to pass the Stanley Tucci test?

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Every dish.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, yeah. For, look, for me, I think one of the most difficult dishes to make is a risotto, right, in any form. If you, if, if a restaurant can make a good risotto, it means that they can usually make everything else pretty well.

• 22:07Josh Horowitz?

  Have you ever been to an Olive Garden in your life?

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  I was making a movie years ago in Salt Lake City. I didn't know where to eat. I went to the, that place. And, you know, I, I still bear the scars.

• 22:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  It was, yeah, I mean, not to, I'm not one, look, in the books I've written, if I go to a restaurant and I don't like it, I never name it, I never anything. But, come on, really? Right?

• 23:01Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, they do offer as many breadsticks as you can possibly want.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 23:09Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 23:10Josh Horowitz?

  You've lost one endorsement deal.

• 23:12Speaker 04

  Yes, I know, yeah.

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:18Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, how many cooking competition series have you said no to? I would imagine.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  A lot.

• 23:22Josh Horowitz?

  Right?

• 23:22Speaker 04

  I don't like them. I don't like competitions when it comes to art or food. I think it's silly. I know they're hugely successful, but I just find it false and weird. To me, cooking is, should be the opposite of that. It should be a thing that brings people together, not separates them. A thing that allows for communion, not for competition.

• 23:57Josh Horowitz?

  What about competition in the arts?

• 24:00Speaker 04

  I still find it strange.

• 24:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do. I mean, it's wonderful when you get nominated for stuff. It's wonderful when you get an award. But do I really believe? You know, because my dad was an art teacher. And he always said, how am I supposed to grade this and this and this? They're all different people and there are all different perceptions of what they're seeing. It's completely subjective. So how do you grade that? How do you say, you're the best actor? It doesn't make any sense. Do you know what I mean?

• 24:35Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  Doesn't it?

• 24:36Josh Horowitz?

  I guess one way to judge is by the staying power of art. Here's my segue. Thirty years ago, Big Night came out.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 24:45Josh Horowitz?

  It stood the test of time.

• 24:48Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 24:51Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, that was a very important film for you, fair to say, as an actor, as a co-director, as a co-writer, did a lot for your career. And it's still arguably the greatest food cooking movie of all time, among other distinctions. Are you astounded by that film's staying power?

• 25:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I am. I am. I think, yeah, we had no idea that it was going to be, you know, what it became, this sort of cult classic, I suppose. Because we just wanted to tell the story we wanted to tell. My cousin and I were writing it. We were just trying to focus on the truth of those, of those people and make it a character-driven film as opposed to a plot-driven film. And a film that used food to tell the story of the struggle between commerce and art.

• 25:47Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  And, and a story that had an ambiguous ending. An ending that you might see in a foreign film or something. But we had no idea. We had no idea. But I'm, I'm so happy. It, it, it changed my life because it, it allowed me a sort of entree into the world of food.

• 26:13Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  And I'm really thankful for that.

• 26:23Speaker 00

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• 26:53Speaker 01

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games. Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Filmed for IMAX.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Make them remember you.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Leaping, November 20th. Rated PG-13.

• 27:12Josh Horowitz?

  You have over, I believe, 140 screen credits.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  Really?

• 27:16Josh Horowitz?

  Yes, it's, and we're gonna cover them all tonight.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 27:20Josh Horowitz?

  What's the one or two that people bring up to you that brings a smile to your face? Maybe the ones that, I mean, I've brought up to you in the past, I love, another film he directed was The Impostors, this farce, which, I'm, yes, I'm, where's the applause, guys?

• 27:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, yeah.

• 27:35Josh Horowitz?

  Love The Impostors.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it was, it was a huge bomb. I mean, it was, unfortunately, but thank you for saying that. There are people who really love it.

• 27:47Josh Horowitz?

  I'm one of them.

• 27:47Speaker 04

  The reviews were so terrible that there was one review that was really good, in The Washington Post.

• 27:55Josh Horowitz?

  There you go.

• 27:56Speaker 04

  That was about it. And then the rest of them were so bad. Someone said, "The only thing I can say about Stanley Tucci's second movie is that I wish he hadn't made it."

• 28:08Josh Horowitz?

  That's, I mean, it's good writing, that's a good one.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Excellent writing, excellent, yeah, excellent writing. It's like what Walter Winchell said about watching a play, he said, "Unfortunately, I saw When the Curtain Was Up." Yeah.

• 28:24Josh Horowitz?

  So imposters might bring a smile to your face. Or do any others, obscure ones that maybe missed the mark for whatever reason with the box office or folks at the time, have a special place in your heart?

• 28:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, this movie I did with Colin Firth about six years ago called Supernova. I think it's, Harry McQueen directed it. I think it's just one of the most beautiful movies ever and that I've certainly been a part of, but even just as a movie looking at it objectively, I think it's beautiful. Colin's extraordinary, Harry's writing and direction is, are just extraordinary. And it's very touching about, you know, a gay couple who have, one of whom has early onset Alzheimer's.

• 29:09Speaker 04

  I think it's beautiful and I think it got a bit lost. It was during COVID and all that and I, I wish that they had just waited to release it when that whole thing was over.

• 29:21Josh Horowitz?

  Where does, I mean, another, I mean, you know, it, it can be a tough sell for folks to watch this deeply moving, but beautiful movie about dementia, Alzheimer's. I mean, similarly like, I mean, The Lovely Bones, that's a tough one. That's a tough, that's a tough role. That's a role that you got Oscar nominated for.

• 29:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:38Josh Horowitz?

  Do, do roles like that take a toll on you? Are you able to compartmentalize when you're doing something like that?

• 29:43Speaker 04

  That one did take a toll on me. I found that really difficult.

• 29:49Speaker 04

  Only because I don't, you know, there's so much stuff about serial killers. Every other channel, there's something about the serial killer and I can't bear it. Like I don't, I don't watch it and anything where a kid in particular gets hurt, I have great difficulty with that.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  But I, I did it because it was so beautifully written and it was Peter Jackson directing it.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  And I thought, okay, I'll, I'll do it, you know? And I tried to get out of it and I needed a job too. It wasn't like, you know, and Peter, I said, Peter, why? We had this like satellite call, you know, before Zoom and everything. And he was in, in New Zealand and he said, I said, why do you, why me? Why do you want me to do? He goes, because you're funny. And I was like, well, you're crazy.

• 30:45Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  But I understood what he was saying. I understood what he was saying. That I wouldn't do a sort of mustache twirling thing. That, to me, the character had to be, no matter whom you're playing, I played Adolf Eichmann in Conspiracy.

• 31:07Speaker 04

  But Eichmann was a human being. That's, we don't want to admit that, but he was.

• 31:13Josh Horowitz?

  Your job is to...

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's what Hannah Arendt said, which is, you know, there's the banality of evil.

• 31:19Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 31:20Speaker 04

  And that's what, you know, Mr. Harvey was in The Lovely Bones. He was the, truly, the banality of evil. And the way I wanted him to look, which was completely, like beige.

• 31:37Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 31:37Speaker 04

  Right? That's what he had, he couldn't look like me in 1970s, you know, suburbia. You'd stick out like a sore thumb. So the hair had to be lighter, the eyes had to be blue, the skin had to be paler, the mustache, and all the, even what he wore was innocuous.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  You'd never know he was there.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  That's what, that's what I wanted to get to, and which we did get to.

• 32:05Josh Horowitz?

  It's the scariest kind of evil, the kind that you can, that's in plain sight, that you miss.

• 32:09Speaker 04

  Yes, yes.

• 32:11Josh Horowitz?

  I mean, you have had so many different iconic looks throughout your career. And you've had every hairstyle, facial hair, I mean, truly, can a bad wig compromise a performance?

• 32:24Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I've had a few movies where if the wig isn't right, or the, you can have a beautiful wig made, but if the person who's putting it on doesn't know how to do it, it, it just looks like a bad wig. And I've had that.

• 32:42Josh Horowitz?

  Do you remember the first time you saw yourself as Caesar Flickerman? And how did you feel about that very subtle look?

• 32:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was thrilled. I loved it, I loved it.

• 32:54Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 04

  But that was me, this incredible makeup artist who, who did that. And we talked about it, we talked through it. You know, they taped my, I said, I want to look like he has, you know, face work. So we taped everything back, put it on the thing. I said, I want a real, like a fake tan. I wanted him to be a cross between...

• 33:13Speaker 04

  Oh God, what's his name? Who was a Las Vegas performer?

• 33:16Josh Horowitz?

  Wayne Newton?

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Wayne Newton, Wayne Newton. And I said, I said, oh God, what's his name in a mouth camera anywhere? Anyone?

• 33:27Josh Horowitz?

  It's been a present.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  Anyway, another, a talk show host.

• 33:30Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 04

  And, but like taken to the extreme, fake teeth. I tried to do a nose to make it look like he had like a really awful nose job. But it was too complicated. We couldn't do it.

• 33:44Josh Horowitz?

  And now Kieran Culkin is getting a shot at Caesar Flickerman, apparently in the new Hunger Games.

• 33:49Speaker 04

  Oh, is that true?

• 33:50Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Good for him.

• 33:52Josh Horowitz?

  You don't.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  It's nice.

• 33:58Josh Horowitz?

  I'm no body expert, but.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:01Josh Horowitz?

  Okay, moving on.

• 34:03Speaker 04

  He's, yeah, no, he's wonderful, that guy.

• 34:04Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 34:05Speaker 04

  He's a, that's a really good actor.

• 34:07Josh Horowitz?

  What are, for you now, the deal breakers in a script? What do you look for in a script? What do you find you respond to nowadays?

• 34:16Speaker 04

  Night shoots?

• 34:17Josh Horowitz?

  You want night shoots?

• 34:18Speaker 04

  No, I don't want night shoots.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  No, I don't want night shoots and I don't want it to be too far away from my family for too long.

• 34:27Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Those are two really important things for me. Obviously, the quality of the script, who's directing it? You know, who's in it and all that stuff. Ultimately, it's, do I read this thing and think, oh yeah, there's something there you can sink your teeth into?

• 34:43Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. I mean, looking at your career, even, even the early roles when you're doing like the bit parts in the, in the early nineties, you're working for this amazing, if I rattled off the list of directors that Stanley Tucci has worked with, he, he, he got them all. He's done them all. It seems that way at least. Was there, are there one or two that you found you learned the most from, that you enjoyed the collaboration that stand out for you?

• 35:04Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. I think Alan Pacula, I played a small role in The Pelican Brief. And he was so, like, he was one of my favorite directors of all time. And to work with him, to watch him work, he was a really nice man, too. To watch him work, to watch him set up these shots that would, you know, they'd be days setting up a shot, you know, while they were shooting other stuff. And because he wanted to shoot it all in one, you know, he was like the king of the.

• 35:33Josh Horowitz?

  Like the mouse.

• 35:34Speaker 04

  Of the wonders, yeah, yeah. So beautiful, so brilliant. Um, I think working with Steven Spielberg was just incredible, incredible. That mind, my sister-in-law just worked with them and she said the same thing. It's just like to watch him, the prowess is like, is extraordinary. The mind is pure cinema. It's like he invented cinema.

• 35:59Josh Horowitz?

  Kind of feels, the ability to not only like think ahead of time and storyboard like anybody, but also be loose enough to kind of like come up with new ideas.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We were just watching, I had like one day off the other day. And we, we were, my wife and I were watching Raiders of the Lost Ark. And you're like, that is unbelievable. Like the shots, if you look at them, it's very, I mean, go back and look at it. Because there are so many shots that are masters that you don't know are masters. Because they're so beautifully composed. It's not just a master where I set up a, you know, you know, 20 millimeter lens. And I'm just shooting a big wide shot. It's like he's got Harrison Ford in the foreground here. He's got another guy here. He's got another guy in the background. And that shot will play for like three minutes.

• 36:52Speaker 04

  But you don't even know it. And that's the genius of him. And then he cuts right when he's supposed to cut. It's incredible.

• 37:01Josh Horowitz?

  I've heard like no less than Steven Soderbergh always talks about like Spielberg. That was, that's his gift, blocking, like he can block like nobody else.

• 37:09Speaker 04

  Nobody else.

• 37:11Josh Horowitz?

  For you, like I, I heard you, you talk a little bit about you're also in Citadel. Like I don't know how you're working on all these things, but like you're also doing like action in Citadel, which is something you haven't done much of in your career.

• 37:21Speaker 04

  That was fun.

• 37:21Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, was that on the list? Was that, and how did it feel to actually kind of get around?

• 37:25Speaker 04

  Well, I loved it. We did the first season and I didn't really have any of that stuff. And then Joe Russo, you know, we're going to do another season. He reshoot a lot of the first season. And then in the second season, he goes, Stanley, I'm going to give you, I want to do this scene where you just kill a whole lot of people. And I was like, great, you know, because I'm angry for no reason. And he said, yeah, I want to do this thing and I have an idea how to do it. I want to do it all in one shot. And there are two sequences in the series. One is, for the most part, the second bit of it is all in one shot. And it's really cool.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  And the other one is a fight scene that goes on forever, you know. And I basically had to like go to a chiropractor after it. But it was, it was a joy for me. I think particularly at my age and I'm, I'm a very physical person. I like all that. I'm very sort of, you know, love playing sports and all that. So to do that was like a great joy. Now they, they call it, when they're Myers, they call it Jerry action.

• 38:39Josh Horowitz?

  That's amazing.

• 38:42Josh Horowitz?

  Liam Neeson started his action career, I feel like in his seventies.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Look, I'm telling you, Liam, it's incredible. It's incredible. Those

• 38:50Josh Horowitz?

  This is your next act.

• 38:51Speaker 04

  Taken movies? Yeah.

• 38:53Josh Horowitz?

  You ready?

• 38:54Speaker 04

  It's, I'm ready.

• 38:55Josh Horowitz?

  All right, bring it.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 38:56Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 38:56Speaker 04

  Taken, yeah. Took will be mine.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  He took. No, that's not, yeah.

• 39:04Josh Horowitz?

  The hunt for great risotto.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  Yes, yes.

• 39:07Josh Horowitz?

  San Fucci.

• 39:10Josh Horowitz?

  Do you remember the last time you ever had to audition? I assume it's been many, many, many years.

• 39:14Speaker 04

  Okay, the last time I auditioned,

• 39:15Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 04

  ironically, was for Steven Spielberg.

• 39:20Josh Horowitz?

  Oh, Terminal?

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Not for that, not for the Terminal. It was after the Terminal. I know.

• 39:25Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah, rude.

• 39:26Speaker 04

  After the Terminal.

• 39:27Josh Horowitz?

  We said all these nice things and

• 39:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know. No, after the Terminal, he was doing Lincoln.

• 39:34Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  And I was doing a movie in London. And he said, would you come in and audition? And I was like, oh, boy, I don't, I guess. It was somewhat quite uncomfortable. But it was Daniel Day Lewis, obviously, and they wanted to hear, you know. And it was them, so I was perfectly fine. But they didn't cast me. But he did send me a beautiful hamper from Fortnum and Mason. So that was.

• 40:03Josh Horowitz?

  Everybody won.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  That was nice, yeah. And the movie was good. And I wasn't right for the role.

• 40:08Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  I wasn't right for the role.

• 40:10Josh Horowitz?

  Mary Todd.

• 40:11Speaker 04

  Right, exactly.

• 40:12Josh Horowitz?

  So it's.

• 40:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was like, why don't you call Sally Field?

• 40:25Josh Horowitz?

  I apologize if these seem very random. What's the happiest you've ever been to receive an offer for a film? Is there one, maybe it was early on in the career? Maybe it was later? A phone call, an email? I've made it. I've achieved some level of something here.

• 40:42Speaker 04

  Oh, gosh. Well, I think the Devil Wears Prada was one.

• 40:46Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah?

• 40:47Speaker 04

  And, yeah, and I think, um.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think Stevens movie too. I was really excited about that. I was very excited to work with him. Yeah.

• 40:59Josh Horowitz?

  When young actors ask you for career or actual acting advice, what's your go-to?

• 41:05Speaker 04

  I said, fuck off.

• 41:09Josh Horowitz?

  Stop trying to take my roles.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:10Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:12Josh Horowitz?

  Healthy, yeah. You'll get your time.

• 41:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I don't. Sorry.

• 41:18Josh Horowitz?

  No.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  You told me to be polite backstage. You told me to be polite backstage.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  I, I really don't know. I often, I don't know what to say. I only say like, you know, in essence, be true to yourself.

• 41:35Speaker 04

  Stick with it. You know, I don't, I don't know what to say. I suppose also what I say is, don't act.

• 41:42Josh Horowitz?

  Right. I mean, how much for you in your career, as you look back, was it? Has it been, does it continue to be technique versus an innate gift? A timing, just a natural proclivity?

• 41:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think, I think you have talent or you don't have talent. It can't be taught. It's either there or it's not there. Right?

• 42:08Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  And then it's really a matter of how you shape it. And you must acquire a certain amount of technique, but you can't become mired in technique. And you always have to keep.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  You always have to keep an open mind. You always have to listen. What you do in acting is exactly what you have to do in life. It's exactly the same. Even though Tom Stoppard did say, "We're actors, we're the opposite of people." Which is very true. And yet, at the same time, the lessons that we learn as actors can very easily be applied to our lives, which is: Stay in the moment, be connected, listen, expand your peripheral vision, get rid of your ideas.

• 43:10Josh Horowitz?

  It's interesting, because I could imagine also, you've been in that situation, you've worked with every kind of actor, where they've kind of created that performance in the trailer by themselves, in isolation, and it's almost like they're performing it for themselves and not reacting to who else is it?

• 43:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's torture.

• 43:25Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  It's not fun to work with. And you see people, there are certain actors who will, "Is it over?" Like, in the middle of a sentence?

• 43:44Josh Horowitz?

  There'll be a trapdoor at some point.

• 43:45Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:46Josh Horowitz?

  They'll come out, yeah. That's the Stan Lee we were...

• 43:53Speaker 04

  What was I saying?

• 43:55Josh Horowitz?

  What were we talking about? Oh, an actor in their own head, that's not...

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Like, some actors, yeah, they come in, they have this idea, particularly younger actors will do this, they have this idea of what they're gonna do, and you're like, "Don't worry about it. Do you know the lines? Yeah, great. Say it, just say it. Talk to me. Don't... It is a performance, but don't perform. Just talk to me. If you talk to me, people will lean in. If you're talking, if you're trying to talk to them by pretending you're not talking to them, they won't be interested.

• 44:36Josh Horowitz?

  Easier said than done, but true.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  It's actually a lot easier than you think. Again, we have to get rid of our ideas of what acting is.

• 44:47Josh Horowitz?

  Well, also so much of it, and having been on a set or two, it's shutting out the noise, right? It's being with your screen partner and forgetting all of this.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Yes, exactly.

• 44:56Josh Horowitz?

  Which I would argue is one of the real tricks.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  It is. That's the key, is that it takes place in this sort of other world. But it's a real world for that moment.

• 45:09Josh Horowitz?

  Yes.

• 45:10Speaker 04

  And then it's gone.

• 45:11Josh Horowitz?

  Is there an actor that, I'm sure there are many actors you grew up watching that you came to either work with or befriend, which in my business, it's the same thing. When you start to know people that you grew up watching, it's a surreal, amazing thing. For you, are any of those?

• 45:25Speaker 04

  It's weird, yeah. Like Bob De Niro's one. Meryl, I mean, Meryl and I are 11 years apart, but, you know, seeing her onstage when I was young, seeing her in movies, I was completely, you know, you're gobsmacked by that talent, that extreme talent. And then suddenly you're like hanging out, and then suddenly you're doing a movie, then suddenly you're married in a movie, and, you know. And then you get to a point where you're like, "Leave me alone, Meryl." Right?

• 45:58Josh Horowitz?

  The texts, "We got it, Meryl."

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like, "Yeah, whatever." Yeah.

• 46:04Josh Horowitz?

  "You can speak at my star ceremony."

• 46:07Speaker 04

  Right, yeah, just saying, "Get out of there," you know.

• 46:11Josh Horowitz?

  Sorry. Looking ahead, I hope we get more Tucci in Italy. That's just me selfishly speaking. I think it's, I mean, Prada has made a gajillion dollars, that's official. You're not going to wait another 20 years, there's going to be another one, I'm sure.

• 46:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, in 20 years, it'll be Emily and Annie coming to visit our tombstones. You know, our grand, it's like, "What's that movie?" Come on, 20 years. It'll take place in a nursing home, you know.

• 46:50Speaker 04

  Sorry.

• 46:50Josh Horowitz?

  So you'd like it to happen, but a little sooner?

• 46:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:54Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, I can still walk. Yeah. It would be great. I would love it. We had such a good time. There are... Look, those three women are just amazing. Amazing, amazing actors, amazing people.

• 47:08Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. All right. We end Happy Sex Confused the same way every time with our profoundly random questions. Stanley, are you ready?

• 47:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:15Josh Horowitz?

  Dogs or cats?

• 47:20Speaker 04

  Dogs.

• 47:21Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 47:22Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 47:26Josh Horowitz?

  You passed the test, at least with the majority in the audience. What do you collect, if anything?

• 47:31Speaker 04

  What do I collect?

• 47:32Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  Um, I... Oh, well, a... Art... Artwork. Um, you know, prints and things like that. Um, I like to collect, um, you know, old cigarette tins. I think those are really beautiful.

• 47:50Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:52Josh Horowitz?

  I don't... You don't strike me as a video game player, but prove me wrong. Have you ever liked a video game? A favorite video game of all time?

• 47:58Speaker 04

  No.

• 47:59Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  No, I don't... I don't get it.

• 48:02Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:05Josh Horowitz?

  The Dakota Johnson memorial question. She asked me this. I ask everybody. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt? Don't look for help from them. This is on you.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  Who... Who... Is that somebody in the audience?

• 48:22Josh Horowitz?

  No, that was Dakota Johnson. I mentioned her backstage.

• 48:24Speaker 04

  Oh, right. Oh, yeah. I'll take a bee in the butt, I guess.

• 48:31Josh Horowitz?

  That's all I needed. Thank you. That was the quote.

• 48:33Speaker 04

  I can't wait to meet her.

• 48:34Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah. What's the... What's the wallpaper on your phone?

• 48:40Speaker 04

  Oh, my three older children are quite a few years ago in Sicily. Yeah.

• 48:48Josh Horowitz?

  Who's the last actor you were mistaken for?

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Mark Strong, always. Yeah, and we get complimented on each other's performances. That's really great. He's such a nice person and, I mean, he's such a great actor. I'm very flattered, you know. I just go, "Thank you very much," you know.

• 49:10Josh Horowitz?

  All attractive bald men do not look alike, folks. Come on.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  Apparently, we do, yeah.

• 49:16Josh Horowitz?

  What's the worst note a director has ever given you?

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Oh, I don't really know, because I usually block it out. But one of the best and worst notes I ever had was from Herb Ross, who was notoriously mean. He was not mean to me.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  And I did a take in that movie, I was telling you, Undercover Blues. And he came up to me and he went, you know, he was huge, and looked at me and he said,

• 49:53Speaker 04

  "Do it better."

• 49:56Speaker 04

  And I went, "Oh, yeah, all right, yeah, that made sense."

• 50:03Josh Horowitz?

  I didn't expect "Undercover Blues" to come up so much tonight. Who knew?

• 50:06Speaker 04

  I know.

• 50:07Josh Horowitz?

  And finally, in the spirit of "Happy Sad Confused," who's an actor who always makes you happy when you see them on screen.

• 50:14Speaker 04

  An actor who always makes me happy when I see them on screen?

• 50:17Josh Horowitz?

  You're in a better mood immediately.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  Oh, there are so many of them. Paul Rudd is one. I know he's coming here, right? You said?

• 50:23Josh Horowitz?

  Coming here soon.

• 50:24Speaker 04

  Oh, I just adore him. Cate Blanchett, you know, so many of them.

• 50:31Josh Horowitz?

  Movie that makes you sad?

• 50:34Speaker 04

  A movie that makes me sad?

• 50:38Speaker 04

  Well, sad and happy.

• 50:43Speaker 04

  The Sound of Music.

• 50:46Josh Horowitz?

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I cry every time. And, well, also like Tarkovsky's The Sacrifice, so that, you know, but that's pretty extreme sadness, yeah.

• 50:58Josh Horowitz?

  And a food that makes you confused. You don't get it. Why do people eat this?

• 51:05Josh Horowitz?

  Besides the breadsticks from Olive Garden, I obviously...

• 51:10Speaker 04

  Why do people eat this? Oh, yeah.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  I think, like, a lot of those, like, gummy, sweet things.

• 51:25Josh Horowitz?

  Sure.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  I don't get it.

• 51:27Josh Horowitz?

  No.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  No, it kind of grosses me out. I don't have a sweet tooth.

• 51:31Josh Horowitz?

  Okay.

• 51:31Speaker 04

  Necessarily, but that kind of stuff. And also when people are like, hey, taste this. This is the hottest thing you'll ever eat. And you're like, why? I do that. Why?

• 51:45Josh Horowitz?

  This is gonna really F you up, man.

• 51:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:47Josh Horowitz?

  Love this.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  I'm like, no, no, I want to taste the food.

• 51:51Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 51:51Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? It's like really sweet drinks. I don't want to taste that.

• 51:55Josh Horowitz?

  Right.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  I want to taste the alcohol.

• 51:58Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 04

  It doesn't...

• 52:02Speaker 04

  It sounds terrible.

• 52:03Josh Horowitz?

  There's our...

• 52:04Speaker 04

  It's like mulled wine. I don't want mulled wine. I want wine.

• 52:08Josh Horowitz?

  Yeah.

• 52:11Josh Horowitz?

  You could have done Hot Ones tonight, but you did Happy Sad Confused. I appreciate that. You said no to Hot Wings, you said yes to me. Thank you so much for doing this tonight. There's, I mean, tip of the iceberg. I'll just say, before we go, Tucci, Tucci in Italy, Matt Gio, premieres next week. Check it out, support it. And of course, as if it needs more help, but The Devil Wears Prada 2, give it another gajillion dollars, if you can. Stanley Tucci, everybody.

• 52:39Speaker 04

  Thank you. Thank you all so much. You've been so nice. Thank you.

• 52:48Speaker 06

  And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't prepared to do this by Josh.

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