Pretty Little Episode #66

Fortune and Mae talk turkey and share some Thanksgiving memories, pick their favorite Disney characters, and give advice on pursuing your dreams on a festive and frisky Pretty Little Episode! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit your questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepod http://speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepodThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:48Fortune Feimster?

  Pretty little episode. Welcome to the Handsome Pod. I am your host, Fortune Feimster.

• 1:55Mae Martin?

  And I am your host, Mae Martin. And Thomas is here too. Hello.

• 2:01Fortune Feimster?

  We're keeping it handsome.

• 2:03Mae Martin?

  Always. Can't help ourselves.

• 2:04Fortune Feimster?

  I wore my handsome sweatpants all weekend.

• 2:06Mae Martin?

  Oh, you did?

• 2:07Fortune Feimster?

  I love them. They're my favorite. When it starts to get chilly outside, it's time for my handsome pants.

• 2:13Mae Martin?

  God, I like when it gets a little chilly.

• 2:15Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I've been playing a lot of foosball late into the night and wearing a jacket to do it. So I don't know how I'm bringing up foosball in reference to, like, I'm shoehorning it in.

• 2:28Fortune Feimster?

  I was like, it's fine. You love foosball.

• 2:30Mae Martin?

  I love it. And I started watching a documentary about the history of foosball and it's fascinating.

• 2:38Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 2:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it was in the Second World War. Soldiers went to Europe and it was huge in Europe and like France and stuff. And they, so they came over and brought it over here and then, and then it's like video killed the radio star. Once, once video game machines came in, it just like eliminated all those buildings became arcades. And anyway.

• 2:58Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:59Fortune Feimster?

  Well, look at that. A main act, a main act.

• 3:02Mae Martin?

  I was, it was my, my friend Matt who lives with me. It was his birthday yesterday. So obviously we're playing some foos. And then this trash talk character came out of me that was kind of like Debbie, the, the hairdresser. Cause every time he'd lose a point, I'd go, oh, and on his birthday too. Oh, isn't it a shame? The birthday boys. It was so, I don't know where it came from. It was so cruel.

• 3:28Fortune Feimster?

  Did it get him off his game?

• 3:29Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it really rattled.

• 3:31Fortune Feimster?

  There you go.

• 3:32Mae Martin?

  It's the only, he, he beats me every time. So the only way I can get in his head is trash talk.

• 3:39Mae Martin?

  How are you?

• 3:41Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, I'm good. I'm gearing up for Thanksgiving will be next week.

• 3:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 3:48Fortune Feimster?

  Now, I know, uh, obviously, uh, that's not a holiday you grew up with. I forgot. Do you, now that you're in the States, do you do something for, for Thanksgiving?

• 3:59Mae Martin?

  Well, we have it in Canada. It's just in a different month, right? Thomas is, is it?

• 4:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's in October.

• 4:05Mae Martin?

  It's in October and usually I do something for it, but maybe not this year. But, um, yeah, yeah. I, I think I should find somewhere and do like a Friendsgiving.

• 4:16Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I love Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday.

• 4:20Mae Martin?

  Yeah, cuz there's no pressure to give gifts.

• 4:23Fortune Feimster?

  And I love that. I don't mind cuz I don't mind buying people gifts. I want people, you know, I wanna be generous for sure. I just, I'm not always like, I just don't always know what to buy people. So Christmas is a lot of pressure. Birthdays is way too much pressure cuz I have a good friend's birthday soon and I'm just like, I have no idea what to get.

• 4:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 4:44Fortune Feimster?

  For Thanksgiving, I'm excited because in the last, gosh, since pre-COVID, I have not had a holiday with my family.

• 4:55Mae Martin?

  No way.

• 4:56Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I realized that. I had seen my mom on Christmas Eve, um, and but just her and then had flown out on Christmas Day. Um, we just started doing other things and now a kid that I'm, it's me. Um, I'm gathering my family. I rented a house in my hometown. And everybody's, all the family's coming cuz you know with my mom being sick, I'm just trying to make things a little more special when I can. We're also planning an 80th birthday party for her in the new year.

• 5:36Mae Martin?

  God, yeah, you gotta make some memories and just like.

• 5:39Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I'm trying to make memories cuz you know, hopefully she's around for a long time, but um, I just don't wanna, you know, not do cool things with everybody when we can.

• 5:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Oh, Thanksgiving will be fun. How many people are you gonna have?

• 5:55Fortune Feimster?

  Um, it'll be like 13 of us.

• 5:59Mae Martin?

  Fun.

• 5:59Fortune Feimster?

  Not all staying at this house, but um, but eating together.

• 6:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah, fun.

• 6:05Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 6:05Mae Martin?

  Do you, uh, turkey, uh, fucks me up.

• 6:09Fortune Feimster?

  Does it? You're one of those people that like gets su- super tired?

• 6:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah, but maybe I'm just one of those people that makes a big deal out of it like, oh, I got a turkey. I'm tired.

• 6:19Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. I don't feel like it does too much to me. I like to, I don't go too crazy on the Thanksgiving food. I like eat a plate of it. And then I go for leftovers later that night.

• 6:31Mae Martin?

  Leftovers are fucking good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I don't, I don't, I, that makes me think I should host something up at my place. I should make it a thing.

• 6:40Fortune Feimster?

  I know. Well, you got the place now.

• 6:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Fortune Feimster?

  Friendsgiving is really fun, too. When I was in my twenties, I had two roommates and my roommate, Steve and I, who I just saw in Atlanta. He and I used to host Friendsgivings at our house and those are some of my favorite memories I've ever had because I was too broke to fly home for Thanksgiving. It was too close to Christmas.

• 7:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 7:02Fortune Feimster?

  And I would fly home for Christmas. So the family would be Christmas and then Friendsgiving and we would all, like Steve and I would be in charge of the turkey and drinks and everybody else would bring the side dishes.

• 7:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's good.

• 7:18Fortune Feimster?

  It's pretty fun. I think you should do it.

• 7:21Mae Martin?

  Have you ever heard of a frozen Charlotte?

• 7:23Fortune Feimster?

  What's that?

• 7:24Mae Martin?

  It's like they used to hide a little porcelain doll inside of a cake. And then if you get the, if you get the frozen Charlotte, you're, uh, I guess the king.

• 7:34Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, I've heard of the king cake, which is a similar thing. It's a New Orleans thing.

• 7:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I don't think we do enough hiding things in food. I mean, as long as-

• 7:42Fortune Feimster?

  I would be too nervous to break a tooth.

• 7:45Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 7:46Fortune Feimster?

  I don't want to bite down on anything.

• 7:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Okay. I won't, I won't, I won't prank you.

• 7:50Fortune Feimster?

  All right. I appreciate it. Well, let me know if you end up doing something.

• 7:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Should we see what people want to know?

• 7:58Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:59Speaker 00

  Hello, handsome. This is Abby from Southern Illinois. And my question for you, as we are getting closer to the holiday season, what is the gift that was your most favorite to give someone else? Like the one that you were so excited to give them that maybe you gave it early or you almost let the secret spill a million times?

• 8:23Mae Martin?

  Ooh.

• 8:24Fortune Feimster?

  Oh.

• 8:25Mae Martin?

  Ah, that's good. I mean, I have a my, my friend Joe, who wrote Feel Good With Me, he and I, I think I've talked about this before, that he, he did this painting called Zorg. And it's just this really grotesque face. And he just did it one night when we were hanging out and, and painting and forgot about it. But it's become like a, like I had T-shirts made and then I mailed, I mailed them to his roommates. And so those presents are always my favorites. Like on, on his birthday, he went to the pub and they had pre-arranged that like the bartender was wearing a Zorg T-shirt. Yeah. Things like that. But also recently, my, I have a friend who's, whose mom is actually very sick and she's been really stressed.

• 9:10Mae Martin?

  And um, so I got her, I like got her an Airbnb really close to the hospital in her parents' house.

• 9:18Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 9:19Mae Martin?

  That felt good because it was like practical and helpful. Yeah.

• 9:23Fortune Feimster?

  That's really sweet.

• 9:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah. What about you?

• 9:25Fortune Feimster?

  Um, I was trying to think like what present has stood out. Oh my gosh.

• 9:31Mae Martin?

  It's like the, always the more personal ones, right? But

• 9:34Fortune Feimster?

  Right.

• 9:35Mae Martin?

  Then that gets harder to do.

• 9:36Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. There was one that came to mind, but I'm not going to share that one. Oh, okay.

• 9:43Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, I did, I did date someone who, um, I had never really bought like a nice, um, I had not been in a ton of serious stuff and this, not that this was like super serious, but I really liked this person. And then I bought her a nice coat and my friend, my best friend helped me pick it out. And I was so proud of this because it was like classy.

• 10:07Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:07Fortune Feimster?

  It, it, um, and I just had never given a woman a nice present like this before.

• 10:14Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:15Fortune Feimster?

  And it always, and I was just so pumped about it and, um, Uh, and I think, and she loved it. And I think we broke up like a month. But she still has, she told me she still has the coat.

• 10:31Mae Martin?

  Really? She still rocks it?

• 10:32Fortune Feimster?

  She still has it and loves it. So that makes, it was not a waste. It makes me feel good that she still enjoys it and that it's a fond memory for her, too.

• 10:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's nice and romantic. And it's, it's hard buying clothes for people.

• 10:46Fortune Feimster?

  Oh my, I never, ever, ever do it. And um,

• 10:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:49Fortune Feimster?

  And it was just something that happened to work and um, my friend nailed it with that one. And um, yeah, it just made me very, like, I felt like an adult for the first time. I was like, look at me buying a nice present for someone.

• 11:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's nice.

• 11:04Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 11:05Mae Martin?

  It'd be nice to get someone a puppy or something, but that's a big risk.

• 11:08Fortune Feimster?

  You have to really know that they want that. You have to know that they want that. And you would have to know, like, a lot of like, this is the breed and this is the, and they're up for it. And but man, that, that would be a tough present to buy someone. I also, I've heard you're not supposed to buy people art. Cause art is so subjective.

• 11:27Mae Martin?

  Oh, really?

• 11:28Fortune Feimster?

  Not to say you can't have like, I've had people had like pictures like painted of like Biggie or something. That's adorable. But just like art in general.

• 11:37Mae Martin?

  Okay. I'm just going over all, all the times I've given people art and, and then realizing I've never seen it in their home.

• 11:43Fortune Feimster?

  Well, cause yeah, it's like, you might think it's like amazing and other person's like, yeah, but you never know. Some people might love your, your taste in art as well.

• 11:52Mae Martin?

  Some people loved Lollaland and I hated it, you know, and to each their own. Yeah. Uh, let's hear Abby's answer.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  My answer for that is I actually have two, both going to the same person, my wife. Um, the first would be one year for her birthday. I threw her a surprise Taskmaster birthday. May, I'm sure you appreciate that. And I actually sculpted her a life-size trophy of Greg Davies head. Um, the second gift would be that I actually for Christmas this year, got her surprise tickets to go see Fortune in Indianapolis in January.

• 12:33Mae Martin?

  Oh my gosh.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  If you guys air this before Christmas, you guys will actually get to be the ones to tell her about the surprise, which would be kind of fun, too.

• 12:42Mae Martin?

  Surprise, surprise.

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Thank you guys so much and stay handsome.

• 12:46Mae Martin?

  Surprise, surprise.

• 12:47Fortune Feimster?

  Coming to Indianapolis, my friend.

• 12:49Mae Martin?

  Oh my god.

• 12:50Fortune Feimster?

  Exciting.

• 12:52Mae Martin?

  That's amazing. Like, experience gifts are always the best, so.

• 12:55Fortune Feimster?

  I love them.

• 12:56Mae Martin?

  Let's just encourage people to buy comedy tickets all the time.

• 13:00Fortune Feimster?

  I will say, and I don't just say this because they're our shows, but every person that has come to my show who has gotten it as a gift is like, this was the best gift.

• 13:10Mae Martin?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 13:11Fortune Feimster?

  Because you're with usually your friend or your partner, you know, on a date. And it's, and if it's a friend, they've had a blast with each other. If it's a date, they feel connected to their partner, they're laughing, it's fun. I think it's such a great gift.

• 13:28Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it is. Yeah, and there's a nice, I think your shows are the same, but there's like a nice community vibe. There, people are friendly and there's, I don't know, people make friends in the lineup for the bathroom and stuff.

• 13:39Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 13:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:40Fortune Feimster?

  It is like such a good vibe.

• 13:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:43Fortune Feimster?

  So you'll, you'll leave, if you come to any of our shows, you'll leave very happy.

• 13:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's a good surprise. I can see, and my Taskmaster trophy is there, the big head.

• 13:52Fortune Feimster?

  That's right.

• 13:53Mae Martin?

  And that, I have, I know a lot of people who do Taskmaster themed parties, because it's so, it's so fun.

• 14:00Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 14:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah, there's a board game, I think, yeah.

• 14:02Fortune Feimster?

  That's awesome.

• 14:03Mae Martin?

  Thanks, Abby.

• 14:04Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 14:10Mae Martin?

  Should we hear another one?

• 14:11Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:12Speaker 05

  Hello Tig, May and Fortune. My name is Sam, a handsome little they/them from Hamilton, Ohio. First of all, I absolutely love the podcast. Second of all, Fortune, I'm coming to see you in Cincinnati in January and I cannot wait.

• 14:24Mae Martin?

  Very cool.

• 14:25Speaker 05

  My question for you guys, I'm not particularly a Disney fan, but I recently posted on social media a picture of myself in a costume as a Disney character. And a lot of my fellow non-binary friends were like, oh my god, that's my favorite character too. So I'm particularly interested in May's answer on this, but I'd love to hear from all three of you guys. Who is your favorite Disney character and why? Thanks and love the show.

• 14:48Fortune Feimster?

  Well, I.

• 14:50Mae Martin?

  Really identify with Lumiere, the candle. And so, and usually in Disney movies, because it's so gendered, the old ones at least that I grew up with, usually there's some like inanimate object, character or an animal of some kind that I that I relate to heavily. So, yeah, okay, because Lumiere is kind of a non-binary icon in my mind.

• 15:12Fortune Feimster?

  And a good singer.

• 15:13Mae Martin?

  Great singer, so warm, so welcoming.

• 15:16Fortune Feimster?

  Guess.

• 15:17Mae Martin?

  The B.

• 15:18Fortune Feimster?

  Guess.

• 15:20Mae Martin?

  Who else? There's Abu, the monkey from Aladdin.

• 15:25Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I always like this, the, the like, um, the characters that aren't involved with the love plot.

• 15:31Mae Martin?

  Same.

• 15:31Fortune Feimster?

  Because they're, they're the fun ones.

• 15:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:34Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, like in The Little Mermaid, the crab, what's his name?

• 15:38Mae Martin?

  Oh, Sebastian.

• 15:39Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 15:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:40Fortune Feimster?

  There you see her floating there along the way. She don't got a lot to say, but something about her.

• 15:48Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 15:49Fortune Feimster?

  And you don't know why, but you're dying to try. You wanna kiss a girl.

• 15:55Mae Martin?

  Oh, you really know it. Oh, my God. Yeah.

• 15:58Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 15:59Mae Martin?

  Yeah, Flounder as well. I guess that's a little boy character. But yeah, yeah, the crab, Yago, the, yeah, the sidekicks are the funniest, always.

• 16:08Fortune Feimster?

  Sidekicks are in a, in The Lion King, um, the, the Warthog.

• 16:13Mae Martin?

  Yeah, the Warthog and, uh, Zazu, the toucan.

• 16:18Fortune Feimster?

  Well, I've never seen a king or beast with quite so little hair. I wanna be your mighty king, so enemies beware. Never seen a, that's a, with so little hair.

• 16:31Mae Martin?

  Do you know who did the voice of adult Simba?

• 16:34Fortune Feimster?

  No.

• 16:35Mae Martin?

  Well, I'll tell you.

• 16:36Fortune Feimster?

  Tell me.

• 16:37Mae Martin?

  Matthew Broderick.

• 16:38Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, really?

• 16:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Good little trivia there.

• 16:42Fortune Feimster?

  That is, there's so many good songs to that one. Means no worries for the rest of your days.

• 16:48Mae Martin?

  Okay, I guess we need to do Disney karaoke one night.

• 16:51Fortune Feimster?

  Yes, we do.

• 16:52Mae Martin?

  Like little musical theater kids.

• 16:54Fortune Feimster?

  A whole new world. Come on.

• 16:55Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah, come on.

• 16:56Fortune Feimster?

  And then Ursula from The Little Mermaid.

• 16:59Mae Martin?

  Ursula is a gay icon. All the villains are pretty gay.

• 17:02Fortune Feimster?

  Unfortunate souls.

• 17:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah, and, um, Flotsam and Jetsam, her little eels.

• 17:08Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:09Mae Martin?

  Uh, Jafar is pretty gay. Um, yeah, I'm gonna go with Lumiere though, in terms of gender identity. That's who I identify with.

• 17:17Fortune Feimster?

  Mine's Sebastian from Full Mermaid.

• 17:19Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I like that.

• 17:21Fortune Feimster?

  But, uh, our new, or I mean, our, my soon to be favorite is Nibbles from Zootopia 2.

• 17:28Mae Martin?

  That's gonna be my favorite too. That's, that's your character's name?

• 17:31Fortune Feimster?

  It's my favorite character in Zootopia 2 and Zootopia 2 comes out. I can't remember if it's November 26th or 29th, but.

• 17:39Mae Martin?

  Soon.

• 17:39Fortune Feimster?

  It's soon.

• 17:41Mae Martin?

  And you got all your handsome hosts in it.

• 17:43Fortune Feimster?

  And all you, all of us are in it. And my friend, uh, sent me a picture. His kid went to Popmart and there was already a, um, a figurine, the action figure thing of my Nibbles character.

• 18:00Mae Martin?

  What? Already?

• 18:01Fortune Feimster?

  Uh huh.

• 18:02Mae Martin?

  That's insane.

• 18:03Fortune Feimster?

  I was like, oh my gosh, this is so cool.

• 18:06Mae Martin?

  I'm still hoping that we're gonna be at the premiere together.

• 18:08Fortune Feimster?

  I know. I'm trying to get off work.

• 18:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:11Fortune Feimster?

  But, yeah.

• 18:12Mae Martin?

  Should we hear Sam's answer?

• 18:14Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, yeah.

• 18:15Speaker 05

  My answer is Peter Pan. There's just something about his energy and his zest for life and his enthusiasm of like, being playful and silly that I just really love. Um, I'm very playful and silly myself, so very fun. Um, and yeah, well, apparently a lot of other non-binary folks love Peter Pan as well. So, there you go. Thanks, guys.

• 18:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah, uh, I completely, of course, Peter Pan, I wanna be so badly. And yeah, there's definitely like a queer vibe about, about Peter. Like a sort of cheeky little.

• 18:48Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 18:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:49Fortune Feimster?

  I could totally see you playing Peter Pan.

• 18:52Mae Martin?

  I would love to play Peter Pan.

• 18:54Fortune Feimster?

  That would be fun.

• 18:55Mae Martin?

  I'd wanna play him as kind of a rebel.

• 18:57Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:59Mae Martin?

  Like tortured.

• 19:01Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 19:02Mae Martin?

  Let's hear another one.

• 19:03Speaker 06

  Hello, May, Fortune and Tig. This is Mira. I am a handsome listener, pretty little lady, originally from Durham, North Carolina.

• 19:13Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 19:14Speaker 06

  And I am a big fan of the pod and you three individually. And I am sending a message today asking for some advice.

• 19:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yes.

• 19:23Speaker 06

  I have just graduated college. I am 23 and I have moved 7,000 miles away from my home on the East Coast to Japan where I'm working my first real job. And I am coming to terms with the fact that I think what I want to do with my life is do creative things, art things, theater things. And I'm 23 and life is a bit messy. And it's just like, ah, like, where do I start? Like, how do you start? You know, you're supposed to do something, but it's scary. And you need a job and you have to be funny. And my time is running out. But yeah. So how do you start? That's my question.

• 19:59Mae Martin?

  Oh, man. That's a great question. How cool that you're in Japan and like,

• 20:03Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 20:04Mae Martin?

  you know, finding yourself. And I guess I'm assuming that what, what you did in college isn't in the arts. And this is like a revelation. I think, I mean, it depends what aspect of the arts. But for me, like, I got a job in a box office of a comedy venue, working in the box office and, and just went to see stuff as much as I can. So I, so I was in the, like, immersed in the world of it.

• 20:27Fortune Feimster?

  Hmm.

• 20:27Mae Martin?

  Like, getting an adjacent day job, you know, so that you're around it.

• 20:31Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 20:32Mae Martin?

  That could be good. What about you? What do you think?

• 20:34Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I mean, well, it's always helpful having a focus. Like, if you know, like, this is the field I want to be in. I'm not sure exactly how to get there, but like, this is the goal. It's, I think it's harder when you, it's like, I don't know what I want to do. Then it's like, where do you even begin? So I think narrowing it down in that way is good.

• 20:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:55Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, getting an adjacent job is helpful. Um, I was an entertainment journalist first. And I knew, like, this is not what I want to do. But I'm in the business, talking to people, doing the thing I want to do.

• 21:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:10Fortune Feimster?

  Um, so I can like pick their brain. I can learn more about the business in, in a way where like I understand it, but I don't have the opportunity yet to be in it. But this is a way to like be around it.

• 21:21Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:22Fortune Feimster?

  Um, and then I took a lot of classes.

• 21:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's the thing.

• 21:25Fortune Feimster?

  Get better in that field.

• 21:28Mae Martin?

  Yeah, classes are, you, you meet people that end up becoming your peers and colleagues and collaborators. Like you meet your cohort and you could still have a day job for a bit, but be taking classes and transitioning.

• 21:41Fortune Feimster?

  Cause if you took some sort of class in the arts, you know, maybe like, oh, that person ends up knowing this person. Oh, this art company is looking for this, or this person's needs help with their project. I mean, then you're meeting other people that are like like-minded in that world and you just never know where that will lead.

• 22:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And I, I think like, I think acting is particularly hard because you're, it's reliant on other people giving you work and auditioning and stuff. But some of the other ones, like I, I, you, you can make your own, you can like go to a pub and say, I want to book the venue one night in six months and then advertise and have a night, like you can be proactive and, and make your own stuff.

• 22:25Fortune Feimster?

  Um, yeah.

• 22:25Mae Martin?

  So maybe that's, is that advice?

• 22:28Fortune Feimster?

  I think so.

• 22:29Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:30Fortune Feimster?

  And also just set, I think just setting goals in general.

• 22:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:34Fortune Feimster?

  With specific, um, goals you want to hit can help you work towards something.

• 22:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And find a buddy who also wants to get into it. And then you guys can go and see stuff together and go and, cause sometimes if you're like, oh, I want to do comedy. So I'm going to go see a bunch of shows. It's intimidating just hanging out afterwards by yourself and trying to meet people. But if you go with someone, you can, you can tag team people.

• 22:57Fortune Feimster?

  For sure.

• 22:58Mae Martin?

  Love it. Mira.

• 22:59Fortune Feimster?

  Love it. Yeah.

• 23:00Mae Martin?

  Also, you're young. Enjoy Japan.

• 23:02Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, for sure. I, I, um, don't think there's any pressure to figure it out yet.

• 23:06Mae Martin?

  No, man.

• 23:07Fortune Feimster?

  You gotta pay your bills, obviously. That's, you know?

• 23:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:10Fortune Feimster?

  And honestly, you don't get to necessarily make money.

• 23:16Fortune Feimster?

  Right away, doing the thing you want to do. Sometimes you have to do just a job to pay the bills while still having that goal of these other things. Sometimes life just happens. So just be patient with yourself. Yeah, big time.

• 23:31Mae Martin?

  Well, that was lovely.

• 23:33Fortune Feimster?

  It was lovely. We want people to keep sending us questions, advice, whatever you want. SpeakPipe.com/hansampod. Don't forget to get some handsome merch for these holidays coming up.

• 23:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:45Fortune Feimster?

  And some tickets to shows. May's going on tour. I'm on tour.

• 23:49Mae Martin?

  Please.

• 23:50Fortune Feimster?

  Tig's doing a bunch of shows, so yeah.

• 23:53Mae Martin?

  And maybe write a little card for Thomas, too.

• 23:57Fortune Feimster?

  That's right. Write a little card for Thomas. And I hope everyone has a great holiday. We'll talk to people before then in our regular episode. But yeah, just a time to be thankful. And I'm thankful for you.

• 24:10Mae Martin?

  I'm thankful for you.

• 24:11Fortune Feimster?

  And for the pod and for everyone that listens.

• 24:15Mae Martin?

  And yes, until next time.

• 24:18Fortune Feimster?

  Keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod.

• 24:37Mae Martin?

  What a podcast. What a podcast.

• 24:43Mae Martin?

  That was a HeadGum Podcast.