Jane Fonda asks about hope

The iconic Jane Fonda asks Handsome an inspiring question about hope on today's episode! Plus, Mae spills the tea/broth, Fortune talks soggy cooters, and Tig delivers lots of laughs (even when we don't know what we're laughing about)! Don't forget to get tickets to our May 4 Live Show in LA https://www.ticketmaster.com/netflix-is-a-joke-presents-handsome-los-angeles-california-05-04-2026/event/0900642CE31BB7C3! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepodThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:04Mae Martin?

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• 0:18Tig Notaro?

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• 1:48Fortune Feimster?

  Cheers.

• 1:50Tig Notaro?

  Welcome to the Handsome Pod. It is your very good friend Tig Notaro.

• 1:55Mae Martin?

  And your very close friend, Mae Martin. And I'm Fortune Feimster.

• 2:00Tig Notaro?

  And we are handsome.

• 2:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah, we are.

• 2:04Tig Notaro?

  Yes, we are.

• 2:05Mae Martin?

  Yes, we are.

• 2:10Mae Martin?

  Handsome from the day we were born.

• 2:13Tig Notaro?

  Handsome till the day we die. Handsome on the days in between.

• 2:19Mae Martin?

  Handsome just you and I.

• 2:22Tig Notaro?

  And me.

• 2:23Mae Martin?

  Me.

• 2:26Fortune Feimster?

  Wow, that was a banger.

• 2:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 2:28Mae Martin?

  One of these days, we're gonna stumble upon a banger right away, top of the episode.

• 2:31Fortune Feimster?

  The handsome band is back again, baby.

• 2:34Tig Notaro?

  What do you mean, one of these days? We did.

• 2:36Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, was that not a banger?

• 2:39Mae Martin?

  You're right. We did, and we always do.

• 2:41Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes, yes. How's everyone doing?

• 2:45Mae Martin?

  I'm doing well. I just reshared a picture of you taking the Oscar class photo of like all the nominees.

• 2:54Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 2:55Mae Martin?

  It blew my mind. I saw it today on Entertainment Tonight, and it was, it's like Leonardo DiCaprio, like all these nominees, and there's our, there's our little handsome Tig. Right in the middle.

• 3:05Tig Notaro?

  Yep, yep, yep, right in the middle. That was, that was really fun. I mean, obviously, the whole process is exciting and fun, but it's, um, it's such a nice thing. Like, today was the luncheon.

• 3:18Mae Martin?

  What's the difference between lunch and a luncheon?

• 3:21Tig Notaro?

  Don't know. Maybe there's an Oscar somewhere, but, um, so yeah, it was like press in the morning, then the lunch slash luncheon. And after you eat, then they call each person up individually.

• 3:37Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 3:37Tig Notaro?

  And everyone cheers, but it was actually really nice and fun. And like, I just was standing up there going, God, I don't know, I know maybe five people up here personally, but I felt so proud of everybody. I was so overwhelmed with like, God, good job, everyone.

• 3:57Mae Martin?

  That's nice.

• 3:59Tig Notaro?

  Excuse me?

• 4:00Mae Martin?

  She's riled.

• 4:01Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes. Um, but yeah, it was, it was a nice, it was a nice day and, um.

• 4:08Mae Martin?

  Have you met Leo?

• 4:09Tig Notaro?

  I met Leo not, I, I, I met him in a social gathering previously.

• 4:15Mae Martin?

  Okay, okay.

• 4:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Have you met him?

• 4:17Mae Martin?

  I think I've heard that story from Stephanie.

• 4:19Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:20Mae Martin?

  I have not met him. I saw him from a distance at a party, and he was vaping away and, uh, kinda grooving, and I was like, oh, what a shame. And then he, I thought, oh, he's kinda, you know, he's looking kinda depressing. Then he turned. I saw those baby blue eyes, and I thought, ah, he's still got it. I'm in.

• 4:39Tig Notaro?

  So when you said, oh, what a shame, what, was that in reference to him vaping, or?

• 4:44Mae Martin?

  Just kind of the vibe. I was like, oh, he's turning into Jack Nicholson, kind of, you know?

• 4:47Tig Notaro?

  Oh, uh huh.

• 4:48Mae Martin?

  But he does, you know, he's still got it.

• 4:51Tig Notaro?

  So he does it for you?

• 4:54Mae Martin?

  It's really complicated. I want to be him. I want him.

• 5:01Tig Notaro?

  What are your feelings, Fortune?

• 5:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah, what are your feelings?

• 5:03Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know. Who is this?

• 5:06Tig Notaro?

  Leonardo DiCaprio.

• 5:07Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, for some reason I thought I heard a different name than that.

• 5:10Tig Notaro?

  Leo.

• 5:12Fortune Feimster?

  We call him Leo. Still didn't, I don't know why that did not register. Um, I am not, I mean, he's a good actor, but it's, you know.

• 5:23Tig Notaro?

  His baby blues don't do it for you?

• 5:25Fortune Feimster?

  No.

• 5:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 5:27Fortune Feimster?

  I mean, he's a good looking man. Listen, no shade.

• 5:31Mae Martin?

  It's for me, I want to be Leo in The Beach and Romeo and Juliet, and I want to be with Leo in The Departed.

• 5:41Tig Notaro?

  What if he said, yes, but no, and switched the roles? That you had to be him in one of the other ones and you had to be with him?

• 5:53Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah, that's fine.

• 5:56Tig Notaro?

  You're flexible?

• 5:57Mae Martin?

  I'm flexible on that. Yeah. Have you had your luncheon yet, Fortune?

• 6:04Fortune Feimster?

  Um, I don't have a luncheon, May.

• 6:07Tig Notaro?

  You don't have a luncheon today?

• 6:08Mae Martin?

  Just your regular luncheon.

• 6:10Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I have lunch every day, but I don't refer to it as luncheons.

• 6:15Tig Notaro?

  Well, starting tomorrow.

• 6:18Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:18Tig Notaro?

  Everybody's.

• 6:19Fortune Feimster?

  Everybody's gonna have a luncheon?

• 6:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 6:21Fortune Feimster?

  Do we wear blazers as well?

• 6:23Tig Notaro?

  Blazered. I'm in a full suit over here.

• 6:25Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, you are? I can't see your pants. I don't know.

• 6:28Tig Notaro?

  Well.

• 6:28Fortune Feimster?

  Let's show it off. Show off this handsome suit.

• 6:31Tig Notaro?

  YouTube. It's just more of the same.

• 6:34Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah. Baba boo.

• 6:38Tig Notaro?

  That's my luncheon outfit, and then I have an evening suit for tonight's event. And you just won't ever know what that looks like unless somebody posts it on something.

• 6:50Mae Martin?

  And then I'll reshare it like a little nerd.

• 6:54Fortune Feimster?

  You're not going to be taking a bunch of pictures. I know how much you love the selfies.

• 6:59Tig Notaro?

  I do. I love a selfie. I love.

• 7:04Tig Notaro?

  Grabbing a famous person and getting a selfie. That's one of my favorite.

• 7:08Fortune Feimster?

  Someone you don't know?

• 7:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. No, um, no, I'll take a picture and I'll, I'll send it to.

• 7:15Fortune Feimster?

  And then you need to post that picture, girl.

• 7:18Tig Notaro?

  No, I'm not gonna post it. I'm gonna send it to you, girl.

• 7:22Fortune Feimster?

  Just for a girl?

• 7:23Tig Notaro?

  And you, girl. I'm gonna send it to our handsome thread and then you guys can rate my look.

• 7:29Fortune Feimster?

  Okay, girl.

• 7:30Mae Martin?

  Cause that, right now, is that like a wine colored?

• 7:33Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's burgundy.

• 7:34Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, it's nice. Yeah.

• 7:37Tig Notaro?

  I don't normally wear colors and people are saying because it's a luncheon.

• 7:41Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah. See?

• 7:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you gotta wear, you gotta wear a lighter.

• 7:45Fortune Feimster?

  A little pop of color.

• 7:46Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. So I went with this.

• 7:48Fortune Feimster?

  I love it.

• 7:49Tig Notaro?

  Enough about me. How are yous?

• 7:51Fortune Feimster?

  Is it enough? It's never enough.

• 7:54Tig Notaro?

  It's never enough. You know, I have to say, I, um, I don't, I don't know if you saw, but I posted a video, um, of myself from last week when I was on Star Trek and, um, I posted that and then I went about my day.

• 8:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:14Mae Martin?

  Wait, can I explain what the video was? Cause I, cause I fell for it.

• 8:17Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 8:17Mae Martin?

  It was like a-

• 8:18Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, this, where you were kind of being serious?

• 8:20Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

• 8:22Mae Martin?

  It was like a up close video of Tig looking really serious. Like, we saw your acting chops and you were like, I don't, I hate having to post this video.

• 8:31Tig Notaro?

  I never imagined I would ever have to be.

• 8:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:34Tig Notaro?

  And, uh, and then I basically just say that I got a haircut and she nailed it and I'm the hottest cast member on Star Trek.

• 8:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:42Tig Notaro?

  And, um, and that, you know, it's, it's a hard thing to be the hottest cast member. So anyway, I post that. I go about my day and I have, you know, these like screenings and all this stuff going on. And people kept saying,

• 9:00Tig Notaro?

  Nice haircut Tig.

• 9:02Fortune Feimster?

  Oh.

• 9:03Tig Notaro?

  Hey, nice haircut Tig. Nice haircut. And I was like, thank you. Completely forgot about that video. Could not figure out like-

• 9:12Fortune Feimster?

  You're like, people are really hitting on me.

• 9:15Tig Notaro?

  Truly was thinking, what is so different about my hair? And then when Meg Faly said, oh my gosh, my dad sent your video about your hair, sent that video about your haircut. I didn't even think of it as a video about my haircut. I thought of it as me being the hottest person on Star Trek. So I was like, what video is your dad sending? What is going on with my haircut? And then I put it together, but that was, yeah, a little bit of a funny little surprise.

• 9:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's looking good.

• 9:48Fortune Feimster?

  It does look, it is a nice haircut.

• 9:51Tig Notaro?

  Well, thank you, but it's my normal haircut. You know, everyone relax.

• 9:56Fortune Feimster?

  It's got like a little style to it.

• 9:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's very dapper.

• 10:00Tig Notaro?

  Everyone calm down.

• 10:02Mae Martin?

  Me and Fortune started a separate thread about it.

• 10:05Fortune Feimster?

  Up here.

• 10:07Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I can't see, but.

• 10:09Mae Martin?

  Me and Fortune, we have a separate WhatsApp thread just about your haircuts. Checking it, monitoring the length and style.

• 10:16Fortune Feimster?

  WhatsApp, not text.

• 10:17Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Or do you guys badmouth me on a separate text that like disappears? That kind of thing?

• 10:23Mae Martin?

  Right, disappearing text.

• 10:25Fortune Feimster?

  The invisible thing around the ear or whatever.

• 10:28Tig Notaro?

  We go, what a bitch. Bitch.

• 10:31Mae Martin?

  I never say the word bitch and it doesn't sound good coming out of my mouth.

• 10:34Fortune Feimster?

  Well, I say it. I say it a lot for funs, you know, for funnies.

• 10:38Mae Martin?

  For funnies. Can you guys guess what's in my mug? Is that a fun game?

• 10:42Tig Notaro?

  Ooh, yeah. Urine.

• 10:45Mae Martin?

  You know, you're not far off.

• 10:47Tig Notaro?

  Your own urine.

• 10:48Fortune Feimster?

  I forget, do you drink, right?

• 10:50Mae Martin?

  I do, I do, not much, but yeah.

• 10:52Tig Notaro?

  Hmm.

• 10:53Mae Martin?

  Oh, you're thinking it's a boozy bev.

• 10:55Tig Notaro?

  A hot toddy.

• 10:56Fortune Feimster?

  Listen, I don't know, we're heading into evening. It's dark outside according to your window with no curtain on it.

• 11:03Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's dark over here too. Yeah. Where did that curtain thing go?

• 11:07Fortune Feimster?

  You mean the newspaper clippings?

• 11:11Tig Notaro?

  That's why I said curtain thing.

• 11:12Mae Martin?

  Well, it's down, but the stickers are still up from where it was. But I, what I want is like stained glass or something. But

• 11:21Tig Notaro?

  That's a beautiful choice for that little window over there.

• 11:24Mae Martin?

  That window that gets no sunlight through it.

• 11:26Tig Notaro?

  Yes. You must get stained glass. But wait, what is in your cup? What's in your mug?

• 11:31Fortune Feimster?

  We have to guess.

• 11:32Mae Martin?

  I'll give you a clue. It is hot.

• 11:34Fortune Feimster?

  Hmm, I'm gonna say hot chocolate.

• 11:37Mae Martin?

  I wish.

• 11:39Fortune Feimster?

  Tea?

• 11:40Tig Notaro?

  P?

• 11:41Fortune Feimster?

  Um, it's coffee?

• 11:44Mae Martin?

  Mm hmm.

• 11:45Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I know what it is.

• 11:47Fortune Feimster?

  What?

• 11:48Tig Notaro?

  I know what it is.

• 11:50Fortune Feimster?

  Bone broth?

• 11:51Mae Martin?

  Pretty, yeah, it's, it's broth. It's, it's broth. Oh, this is a gross game, actually. It's, um, it's, I ordered like Vietnamese food, like pho, you know? And then I didn't have time to eat it before the pod, so I just poured the broth in the cup. And then at the last minute, I put plain white rice in the broth.

• 12:11Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, let's see.

• 12:12Tig Notaro?

  Did you talk to it? Did you say I love you?

• 12:16Mae Martin?

  I just poured it all over my laptop.

• 12:18Tig Notaro?

  Oh, boy. Will this, will this, will this podcast make it past this coming April?

• 12:28Mae Martin?

  Oh, God.

• 12:29Tig Notaro?

  Or even two April?

• 12:31Fortune Feimster?

  My pho cup.

• 12:34Tig Notaro?

  Pew.

• 12:36Fortune Feimster?

  The rice that you've been saying, I hate, or no, I love you too?

• 12:40Mae Martin?

  No, this is fresh rice and, um,

• 12:43Tig Notaro?

  So you've been saying, I hate you.

• 12:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's just always, it's fun, um, drinking soup out of a mug, you know?

• 12:49Tig Notaro?

  I was, um, after one of my, um, medical mishaps, when I was hospitalized, the first thing that they gave me was vegetable broth.

• 13:02Mae Martin?

  So good.

• 13:05Tig Notaro?

  Could not believe, because I hadn't eaten in like a week, you know? And so I was like, oh my God, when I drank that broth out of that little cup, I was like, this is the most delicious thing I've ever had. And when I got home, my aunt gave as a present, a like a box of vegetable broth for me and Stephanie to celebrate with.

• 13:29Mae Martin?

  Oh, it's like so warming and salty and you feel like you're like a hobbit and you've been on this journey through the woods and then you finally get sheltered.

• 13:37Tig Notaro?

  Pardon?

• 13:38Mae Martin?

  Well, it made me think of like Frodo Baggins.

• 13:40Tig Notaro?

  You know, you know, come on. When you have broth, you feel like you've been in the wilderness.

• 13:47Fortune Feimster?

  It's like you're in the Lord of the Rings.

• 13:49Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 13:51Fortune Feimster?

  It is a chilly night, so it's a good night for the something in a cup.

• 13:55Mae Martin?

  It's really bringing me a lot of joy. And that's what, what you said too. That's such an interesting point about gratitude. Like when you haven't eaten for a few days, then suddenly everything's like flavor explosion and.

• 14:06Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I didn't think I would ever move on from having just vegetable broth. I was like, I'm all set.

• 14:13Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 14:14Tig Notaro?

  I'm good moving forward.

• 14:17Mae Martin?

  That's why they do those dopamine detoxes where you stay in the dark for a long time. No, no screens, but not even any sunlight, like, and then when you emerge, everything's so beautiful. Cause we're, we're too dopamine exhausted and it's just, yeah. So if you stay in the pitch black for a while, we should do a pod from the pitch black.

• 14:39Tig Notaro?

  I've been, I've been interested in doing one of those like meditative weekends where you just sit in a small, dark closet, essentially.

• 14:50Mae Martin?

  Totally. I'm, I'm up for that.

• 14:53Tig Notaro?

  And your food is delivered to you and stuff.

• 14:55Mae Martin?

  I kind of thought Lake Arrowhead would be like that, but.

• 14:58Tig Notaro?

  Oh, it wasn't.

• 15:00Fortune Feimster?

  You ordered way too many things on Amazon.

• 15:02Mae Martin?

  I know. There was no deprivation or meditation.

• 15:05Tig Notaro?

  You ordered so much stuff on Amazon that when people boycotted it, it made no difference because of how much you bought.

• 15:13Mae Martin?

  I was the reason.

• 15:14Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. Yeah. It all evened out.

• 15:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:18Fortune Feimster?

  I have done one of those tanks where you, it's dark and you're floating in the water.

• 15:24Mae Martin?

  What's that like?

• 15:26Fortune Feimster?

  Is that, what is, is that, what is that called?

• 15:27Mae Martin?

  Sensory deprivation chamber.

• 15:30Fortune Feimster?

  At first I was like, oh, I'm gonna drown. Um, but, but then once you kind of like let yourself go, your body does start floating.

• 15:41Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm.

• 15:41Fortune Feimster?

  Um, and then, uh, and then at, like at first it's hard to get comfortable, but then once you do, it's pretty great.

• 15:50Mae Martin?

  How long are you in there?

• 15:52Fortune Feimster?

  I think I was in there like an hour.

• 15:54Mae Martin?

  Whoa.

• 15:54Tig Notaro?

  And why are you?

• 15:55Fortune Feimster?

  My cooter was a real saga, y'all.

• 16:02Tig Notaro?

  Is that when you pulled out like an iron or a steamer?

• 16:05Fortune Feimster?

  It was prune for sure.

• 16:07Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God. Fortune Marie. Fortune Marie.

• 16:15Fortune Feimster?

  But I was in there a long time and that's what happens.

• 16:19Mae Martin?

  I kind of can't imagine you, well, I, I'm, I'm not trying to imagine with a pruned cooter.

• 16:26Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 16:27Tig Notaro?

  I've tried to imagine it many times.

• 16:29Fortune Feimster?

  Take a ride.

• 16:31Mae Martin?

  But what did you think about that whole hour?

• 16:33Fortune Feimster?

  Memory, you're, what's it called?

• 16:36Mae Martin?

  Imagination.

• 16:38Fortune Feimster?

  What's this whole thing?

• 16:39Mae Martin?

  I don't have a memory of your cooter, but I do have an imagination.

• 16:42Fortune Feimster?

  I'm like, take a ride down memory lane. Um, your imagination, what did you ask me?

• 16:48Mae Martin?

  Like, what did you think about in there and did you sing to yourself or something?

• 16:51Fortune Feimster?

  Um, you just kind of, I think you, the thing you want to get to is like sort of a meditative state where you're just kind of being. At first you're thinking about a thousand things. Um, but then if you kind of like give yourself over to it, it does become very relaxing.

• 17:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:07Fortune Feimster?

  I was super into it by like halfway through, but then I never went back. And I have heard that some people have gotten pink eye from doing this.

• 17:15Mae Martin?

  Yeah, someone I know, yeah.

• 17:16Tig Notaro?

  Pink eye and shriveled coot?

• 17:18Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 17:19Mae Martin?

  Prune coot and pink eye.

• 17:26Tig Notaro?

  Are we using this moment as a dating service?

• 17:30Fortune Feimster?

  Queen Dato.

• 17:34Mae Martin?

  Wait, I'm laughing, but I don't know why. What's Dato?

• 17:38Fortune Feimster?

  What's what?

• 17:40Tig Notaro?

  You just sounded like me, May.

• 17:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:42Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, what's what?

• 17:44Mae Martin?

  What's Queen Dato?

• 17:45Fortune Feimster?

  Quidato. It means be careful in Spanish.

• 17:48Mae Martin?

  Oh, I thought you were referencing Queen Dato or some-

• 17:52Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, no. Just quidato. I'm just bilingual. I'm just bilingual. I don't know what to tell you. After I watch Bad Bunny, do the halftime show, I'm a real bilingual gal.

• 18:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I'm still thinking about it.

• 18:07Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:08Tig Notaro?

  Good stuff. You didn't go to the other?

• 18:12Fortune Feimster?

  Kid Rocks?

• 18:13Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Fortune Feimster?

  I miss it.

• 18:21Mae Martin?

  A lot of people shower in the dark. That's supposed to be really good. Turn off the lights when you shower.

• 18:27Tig Notaro?

  Why? Good for what?

• 18:29Mae Martin?

  Hmm, I don't know.

• 18:30Tig Notaro?

  Good for nothing?

• 18:30Mae Martin?

  Good for nothing. Good for like-

• 18:32Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know that I want to shower in the dark.

• 18:34Tig Notaro?

  You don't have to, Fortune, May. I'm just saying some people do.

• 18:39Fortune Feimster?

  I shower in the morning. I'm a morning shower and I use it as a way of waking up.

• 18:45Mae Martin?

  Of course.

• 18:46Fortune Feimster?

  So I want the light.

• 18:47Mae Martin?

  Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense, actually. Yeah.

• 18:51Tig Notaro?

  Have you ever had your coffee in the shower with you to double wake up?

• 18:56Mae Martin?

  Yeah, or when I'm in a huge rush, I've done that. Yeah.

• 18:59Fortune Feimster?

  I've had it in the bathtub with me. Hello.

• 19:05Fortune Feimster?

  Trivcoat. I love a water situation. Just put me in water and let me float and I'm gonna be living my best life.

• 19:13Mae Martin?

  Yeah, me too.

• 19:14Fortune Feimster?

  I like the pool. I like the Tits-Out hot tub. I like the bathtub. I like a shower. I like a pontoon situation.

• 19:23Tig Notaro?

  I can't believe I forgot about Tits-Out hot tub.

• 19:26Fortune Feimster?

  You can't forget about Tits-Out hot tub.

• 19:28Tig Notaro?

  It was because your hot tub is not-

• 19:30Fortune Feimster?

  It's too short.

• 19:31Tig Notaro?

  It's too short.

• 19:34Mae Martin?

  It's just a little

• 19:35Tig Notaro?

  Such a great visual.

• 19:37Mae Martin?

  It really is.

• 19:40Mae Martin?

  Especially on a cold day.

• 19:42Fortune Feimster?

  The only way to get warm is to like lay, you have to like lay down in the, in the hot tub.

• 19:47Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 19:48Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Otherwise my neighbors are seeing my chichis.

• 19:51Mae Martin?

  Your chichis? That's a new one.

• 19:53Fortune Feimster?

  I'm bilingual, I told you.

• 19:59Tig Notaro?

  Is that what they call?

• 20:01Fortune Feimster?

  Um, I don't think that's the formal Spanish word for boobs.

• 20:05Tig Notaro?

  Like a doctor, if you went to a doctor in Mexico City, they wouldn't.

• 20:09Fortune Feimster?

  He's like, let's check out these chichis.

• 20:12Mae Martin?

  Uh huh.

• 20:13Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm. I don't know. Not, you guys don't know much about that.

• 20:17Tig Notaro?

  I don't know much about anything, really.

• 20:19Fortune Feimster?

  Really?

• 20:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I'm along for the ride.

• 20:21Fortune Feimster?

  I don't think that's true at all.

• 20:23Tig Notaro?

  I believe it is.

• 20:24Fortune Feimster?

  I don't believe that.

• 20:26Tig Notaro?

  I know about chichis, but I did not.

• 20:29Fortune Feimster?

  That's what I've heard.

• 20:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 20:31Mae Martin?

  Word on the streets. Take nother way around some chichis.

• 20:35Fortune Feimster?

  These handsome, these handsoms know their way around some chichis.

• 20:39Tig Notaro?

  That is right.

• 20:40Fortune Feimster?

  That's what our podcast is known for.

• 20:42Mae Martin?

  Well, but it's, well, like people.

• 20:48Mae Martin?

  Like people have, I never know, if you're sleeping with someone, like some people like you to do stuff with their chichis. Some people really don't. So you never know.

• 20:58Tig Notaro?

  Some people are like hands off the chichis.

• 21:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you know what I mean?

• 21:00Fortune Feimster?

  Y'all know me, I like a motor button.

• 21:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:04Tig Notaro?

  Fortune.

• 21:06Mae Martin?

  You are on one today.

• 21:08Tig Notaro?

  Fortune shriveled coot Marie.

• 21:11Fortune Feimster?

  Fortune.

• 21:14Fortune Feimster?

  Did you give me another middle name? Fortune.

• 21:16Tig Notaro?

  Shrived coot.

• 21:17Fortune Feimster?

  Triple coots Marie.

• 21:20Tig Notaro?

  No, just singular shrivel coot.

• 21:23Fortune Feimster?

  Triple coot Marie.

• 21:25Mae Martin?

  Sorry.

• 21:26Tig Notaro?

  Shriveled coot Marie.

• 21:28Mae Martin?

  Triple coots. Yeah. What's going on with you? What your, um, your, your riled, your?

• 21:34Fortune Feimster?

  I've been, I've been filming all day.

• 21:36Mae Martin?

  Oh, okay.

• 21:37Fortune Feimster?

  And waking up at like four 30 in the morning. So I'm, I don't know why I'm bouncing off the walls right now. I shouldn't be passing out.

• 21:45Tig Notaro?

  Well, how was your shoot today?

• 21:47Fortune Feimster?

  It was great. I got to do some stunt work. What, by that, I mean, my stunt person did the stunt and I laid on the ground and popped up. And went, ooh.

• 22:02Tig Notaro?

  So you do your own stunts?

• 22:04Fortune Feimster?

  I sure do. I did more stunts, uh, uh, in Foo Bar. This one was a tough stunt. So I said, I'm gonna tap out on this one.

• 22:14Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 22:15Fortune Feimster?

  But the other day I did a, a lot of my, what was, they had a stunt person doing it, but I did a lot of it as well.

• 22:22Mae Martin?

  Have you guys ever had to get like slapped in something and then, and I'm, I did, and I was like, can you just do it for real? Cause it's so hard to act the like, and, uh, this was with Toni Collette and she was like, no, of course not.

• 22:37Fortune Feimster?

  She wouldn't do it?

• 22:38Mae Martin?

  Well, she was like, I'm not gonna, yeah. She was like, just act. It's like, right.

• 22:41Fortune Feimster?

  Just act. Did she say it with an Australian accent?

• 22:45Mae Martin?

  I think so.

• 22:46Tig Notaro?

  May. Did I tell you about the time when I was on the Sarah Silverman program 10 billion years ago? And I had a show in San Francisco and, um, they called me, wait, what, May?

• 23:01Mae Martin?

  I just took a sip of soup and then I'm like chewing the rice and it made me laugh. Sorry.

• 23:07Tig Notaro?

  So it's okay. I, I understand. Um, so I'm in San Francisco for, you know, a weekend of shows. And I get a call from production saying they need me to fly down to LA during, you know, on Friday or whatever. During like first flight out Friday morning, get slapped in the face by.

• 23:33Tig Notaro?

  Jay Johnson, who was at the insurrection.

• 23:37Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 23:38Tig Notaro?

  I don't know.

• 23:39Mae Martin?

  Wait, yes, Jay Johnson.

• 23:41Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know who this is.

• 23:42Mae Martin?

  Wait, he was at the insurrection?

• 23:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, he played my police cop buddy in Sarah Silverman. But anyway, so I had to fly down that morning, get in my cop suit and full makeup, slaps me in the face, and then go straight to the airport, fly back to San Francisco,

• 24:05Tig Notaro?

  and get on stage that night.

• 24:07Fortune Feimster?

  That's wild.

• 24:08Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and it's like, it was a point in my life where, you know, I was making appearances on Sarah's show, and I was headlining at a comedy club, and I felt like the biggest star in the world, that they were flying me down to LA.

• 24:23Fortune Feimster?

  To go Southwest.

• 24:24Tig Notaro?

  Southwest to Burbank. For sure. Just, just to slip for Jay to slap me in the face.

• 24:30Fortune Feimster?

  Like, I've made it, baby.

• 24:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:33Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, man.

• 24:34Mae Martin?

  I did a self-tape today for, to play an androgynous sex robot.

• 24:40Tig Notaro?

  Ooh, I think you can do that.

• 24:42Mae Martin?

  I think it's in my wheelhouse. A kind of spectrum-y sex robot. But it was, it's so embarrassing. Self-tapes are so embarrassing. Yeah, I got a friend to help me. And the scene opens with me laughing, but I don't know what came before it.

• 24:56Tig Notaro?

  Oh, really?

• 24:57Fortune Feimster?

  We don't know why you're laughing.

• 24:58Mae Martin?

  I don't know why I'm laughing.

• 25:00Fortune Feimster?

  And I didn't know robots had a sense of humor.

• 25:02Mae Martin?

  Well, this one has some human-like qualities. I think they've hacked the algorithm or something.

• 25:09Tig Notaro?

  Can we hear the laugh that you did?

• 25:12Mae Martin?

  Okay, I got confused because it's a sex robot. So I'm like, is it a flirty laugh? Yeah, so I think I just murdered a bunch of people, and I'm maybe laughing at that. And so I go, I go,

• 25:24Mae Martin?

  no, wait, it wasn't like that. It was more, it was more flirty.

• 25:27Tig Notaro?

  Take two. Okay, yeah, thank you.

• 25:29Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it was like,

• 25:32Mae Martin?

  thank you. That's how I did it. It was more of a chuckle.

• 25:34Tig Notaro?

  Oh, just a little chuckle?

• 25:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 25:36Tig Notaro?

  You didn't go full fours, like?

• 25:40Mae Martin?

  I should have done that. I should have done that.

• 25:45Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, regrets.

• 25:47Mae Martin?

  That would, if I was casting something and someone made that bold choice, I'd, damn.

• 25:53Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, maybe, maybe your robot just murdered a bunch of people and you're laughing.

• 25:58Mae Martin?

  No, that is what it is.

• 25:59Fortune Feimster?

  That is what it is.

• 26:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:01Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I didn't, I didn't know you knew why you were laughing.

• 26:04Mae Martin?

  Well, I don't, I don't know if something was said, but I know I have just murdered people, but I don't know why I would be laughing like I.

• 26:10Fortune Feimster?

  Because that it was so easy.

• 26:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:14Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 26:15Tig Notaro?

  And it felt so good.

• 26:17Fortune Feimster?

  Do you have, you have to have sex?

• 26:20Mae Martin?

  I'm trying to seduce Alexander Skarsgård, kind of. I'm not gonna get the part, let's be honest, but.

• 26:25Fortune Feimster?

  We don't know this.

• 26:26Tig Notaro?

  No, we don't.

• 26:28Fortune Feimster?

  Cause that laugh is pretty good.

• 26:30Tig Notaro?

  It was a chuckle.

• 26:32Fortune Feimster?

  It was a chuckle, but maybe that's what they want.

• 26:35Mae Martin?

  Fake laughing is really, well, clearly not that hard. Tig just nailed it.

• 26:39Tig Notaro?

  You know what's the hardest thing to do?

• 26:41Mae Martin?

  What?

• 26:41Tig Notaro?

  Is to yawn.

• 26:45Tig Notaro?

  So, yeah, it doesn't look real, May. For sure does not look, and you can't, you can't put your hand up there. You gotta really show. No, no, guys.

• 26:54Fortune Feimster?

  But I just really yawned.

• 26:55Tig Notaro?

  No, it still looked fake.

• 26:57Fortune Feimster?

  That was a legit, real yawn.

• 26:59Mae Martin?

  You know what cracks me up?

• 27:01Fortune Feimster?

  You just went.

• 27:03Tig Notaro?

  Don't yell at my yawn, Fortune.

• 27:07Fortune Feimster?

  I learned a new trick from Kim Kardashian today.

• 27:09Mae Martin?

  Oh, what's that?

• 27:11Fortune Feimster?

  I was in the scene and I felt like I was gonna have to sneeze and I was like, I think I'm gonna sneeze and it wasn't happening and she, and there was a big crane with a light on it. She said, look into the light.

• 27:22Tig Notaro?

  You've never heard that?

• 27:23Fortune Feimster?

  No, I turned around to the light and immediately sneezed.

• 27:27Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that, I've heard that.

• 27:29Tig Notaro?

  That, that's as old as time.

• 27:32Fortune Feimster?

  Well, no.

• 27:33Mae Martin?

  Father Abraham was.

• 27:35Fortune Feimster?

  But I've never heard, I've never heard this.

• 27:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I've heard that, but I've never tried it. Is it, how is that?

• 27:41Fortune Feimster?

  It works.

• 27:42Mae Martin?

  It works for you?

• 27:42Fortune Feimster?

  It works. Like, I literally sneeze like that.

• 27:45Mae Martin?

  Whoa.

• 27:46Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 27:46Mae Martin?

  I'm trying it now, but I guess I didn't have to sneeze to begin with.

• 27:49Fortune Feimster?

  Well, you have to, you have to sneeze. You have to need to sneeze.

• 27:52Tig Notaro?

  You have to have it all built up.

• 27:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 27:54Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm. It's a terrible feeling when a sneeze is about to get away from you.

• 27:59Mae Martin?

  Do you, is it true that if you sneeze with your eyes open, your eyeballs pop out?

• 28:03Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 28:03Mae Martin?

  Okay, thanks.

• 28:04Tig Notaro?

  Yes, I know many people who have lost their eyes to such a thing. I feel like my, I have really intense sneezes. I scare the whole house. The cats jump and run and it, the alarm gets set off. It's really bad. Like if I tried to bring it down a notch, I think my brain would just come flying out of my ears.

• 28:28Mae Martin?

  That's like.

• 28:28Tig Notaro?

  Oh, no.

• 28:29Mae Martin?

  That's like the most dad thing about you I've heard. That's such a dad thing that their sneezes are like, "Ratchet!"

• 28:38Tig Notaro?

  Wait, that's the most dad thing? Have you heard other things that weren't quite so dadish?

• 28:43Mae Martin?

  Just that I've heard about you. Yeah. Yeah. Just when I picture you doing big sneezes in the house, I'm like, that's dad, dad energy.

• 28:49Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:50Fortune Feimster?

  "Ratchet!" Big dad energy.

• 28:53Tig Notaro?

  BDE.

• 28:54Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm. That's right. That and that suit you're wearing.

• 28:59Mae Martin?

  We have a really exciting question.

• 29:02Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, coming from a really exciting mouth that's attached to a really exciting person.

• 29:06Mae Martin?

  Person, yeah.

• 29:07Fortune Feimster?

  Uh huh.

• 29:08Mae Martin?

  I'm a big fan.

• 29:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 29:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 29:11Tig Notaro?

  Samezies.

• 29:12Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm. You'll hear about our guest in a second, but it's, um, a real legend. She's been in, in the biz, as they say, for a long time.

• 29:22Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 29:23Tig Notaro?

  Very long.

• 29:24Mae Martin?

  And this is one that, this is a question you got for us, Tig. I just, it still blows my mind that people, like icons like this are, are sending in cues to this little pod.

• 29:35Tig Notaro?

  I know it. And icons like this are still so active in the world, doing cool, great things.

• 29:42Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 29:43Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 29:44Fortune Feimster?

  That's right.

• 29:44Mae Martin?

  Today's question asker is an actor, fitness guru, and activist who's won countless awards, including multiple Oscars, Golden Globes, and Emmys. She's been an outspoken anti-war advocate and feminist icon for decades. One of her workout videos is the highest-selling VHS tape of all time. Jane Fonda is asking today's question.

• 30:06Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I've jazzercise with this gal a time or two.

• 30:10Tig Notaro?

  Jazzercise with Jane?

• 30:12Fortune Feimster?

  Yes, right.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Hi, this is Jane Fonda, and I'm on the Handsome Project. And I'm also on my way to Santa Barbara, to the film festival, because I have a documentary called Gaslit that's being shown there. That's why I'm all dressed up and made up.

• 30:30Tig Notaro?

  Nice.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  So my question for you all, which is an important question, because the people that appear to be in charge of this country right now want us to be hopeless, confused, chaotic, and hopeless. So remaining hopeful is, is basically an act of defiance, and it's absolutely needed right now. So my question for you is, how do you remain hopeful?

• 30:55Fortune Feimster?

  Wow.

• 30:56Mae Martin?

  That's such a good question.

• 30:58Fortune Feimster?

  She's seen a lot in her lifetime.

• 31:00Mae Martin?

  She really has. And she's, hearing that from her makes me feel hopeful. Like, it's just so reassuring to, whenever she speaks, I think.

• 31:09Tig Notaro?

  Can I just tell you right out of the gate what makes me feel hopeful?

• 31:13Fortune Feimster?

  What?

• 31:14Tig Notaro?

  Just Jane Fonda.

• 31:15Fortune Feimster?

  That she looks so good?

• 31:17Tig Notaro?

  Well, she's 88 years old.

• 31:19Fortune Feimster?

  That's wild.

• 31:25Tig Notaro?

  And she gets up, and she starts rallies, she's making videos for TikTok, she's, you know, she's, she's like, marching and involved, she's engaged, she cares so much. And it's really remarkable, because I, Stephanie and I were with her the other day, and one of the things she said, she was like, "I feel so lucky to be alive right now."

• 31:53Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, wow.

• 31:53Tig Notaro?

  Which I feel like so many people would say the opposite of.

• 31:57Mae Martin?

  Yeah, absolutely. And she, she so personifies like, the type of hope that

• 32:04Mae Martin?

  Is not just because like if the definition of hope is like expecting a positive outcome, like we're like trying to trying to confidently believe that that a positive outcome can happen. And I don't know, sometimes I get I get down or I get pessimistic because I

• 32:21Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 32:22Mae Martin?

  And and I or I think that being hopeful is like a cop out and like I can't be hopeful and angry or something, but she's hopeful and angry and she's her brand of hope is like empowering. It's like we have the power to make these changes. It's not just like, well, this, you know, this will sort itself out. It's like she is up doing stuff because she's seen firsthand the effect that that lobbying can have and activism. And that's so encouraging to be like, this can make a difference. There's like, things like like boycotts and protests and bringing attention and awareness to things and lobbying that it does make a difference. That is good.

• 33:02Fortune Feimster?

  Did she expand on why she's glad to be alive in these times?

• 33:07Tig Notaro?

  I mean, I think I didn't have a follow up question for her. I think it was more the vibe and I could have been wrong is I don't even know that she's that it was like

• 33:17Mae Martin?

  Not like she's having a like, oh, what a great time, but like

• 33:21Tig Notaro?

  No, more like there was a feeling of hopefulness of like, we can turn this around and I'm glad I'm still here to contribute to this.

• 33:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And like, let's get to work and

• 33:34Tig Notaro?

  And that there's, there's so much wonderful stuff on the other side of it all. But that really stuck with me.

• 33:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah, and I wonder if like generationally, she's, she's not in this social media algorithm and news, negative news cycle that that is so overwhelming and makes you feel so. So paralyzed and so negative about human nature and makes you feel like people are so divided in such an extreme way. Like, maybe she's she's outside of that. You know what I mean?

• 34:07Fortune Feimster?

  Well, also, when you hear from an older person who's been through different iterations of bad times, good times and bad times, and that she remains hopeful, that helps.

• 34:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 34:23Fortune Feimster?

  People, I think, be hopeful because you're like, oh, she's seen some low lows and seen the country, the world get through those things. And yeah, like the hills and valleys of it.

• 34:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I find it so hopeful. People could just end up sitting on a couch, watching the news, complaining, and that's the end of the story.

• 34:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, this like being outraged and echoing the outrage, but not offering solutions or chasing solutions. And I'm trying to remember, like, I'm, I can be like that. I'm, I do feel, today, I feel good, but some days I do feel really overwhelmed and like paralyzed by the insanity. And, and then I did the other day, I was Googling stuff, you know, and then I found like a study that was over decades, measuring empathy in people and kindness and generosity. And the study showed like, there's been no deterioration in human empathy and kindness

• 35:29Mae Martin?

  and stuff like that. We are actually wired for altruism, altruism and community and kindness. That's like, we are wired that way as animals. And so that's reassuring. And that all the conflicts we're experiencing and division, hopefully, can lead to, like, you, you need that to break down the old way and build something new. I hope. I don't know.

• 35:52Tig Notaro?

  And so you were specifically Googling what?

• 35:57Mae Martin?

  Like, are people bad? Are, is human nature bad? Are people, are people getting worse?

• 36:01Fortune Feimster?

  Worse, I think, yeah.

• 36:03Mae Martin?

  Are we in a moral decline? Like, where?

• 36:06Tig Notaro?

  And you're asking Google?

• 36:08Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 36:09Fortune Feimster?

  Why not talk to ChatGPT?

• 36:12Mae Martin?

  No, not ChatGPT.

• 36:13Fortune Feimster?

  The AI that's taking over all of us.

• 36:16Mae Martin?

  No, I'm not gonna use him again. But yeah, just.

• 36:21Mae Martin?

  Like I'm trying to get a zoom out and get a picture of like, is this, are we spiraling towards really the end? Cause it can feel like that with, with everything. And, and then I, so I'm trying to actively think like, even the word apocalypse, I was listening to a podcast, apocalypse means to reveal something new. So it, yeah, it's a, hopefully we're gonna, we're hitting a real rock bottom in terms of like corruption and depravity and having a, you know, a country like lots of countries in, in history have been revealed to be run by kind of an organized crime ring, basically like, and hopefully now it's out in the open. This is, this is what we're gonna need to.

• 37:04Tig Notaro?

  And how does it feel for somebody like yourself who is not from this country?

• 37:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 37:09Tig Notaro?

  And I know there's corruption all over the world and there always has been and there always will be, but to be smack dab in the middle of what is going on in a country that you aren't even from, how like?

• 37:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I, I feel like I, I feel like I'm a masochist for, uh, but then I also feel like scared to say stuff and like, I can't, or I don't have a right to get as engaged and involved as I wanna be. And, you know, I'm worried about my, my green card application and stuff. So that's a weird place to be. But yeah, it is really weird. A lot of my friends in Canada are like, what are you doing? And yeah, it's such a strange time. You see like Olympic athletes and stuff saying it's, it's a very strange time to be out representing America. But then also so many amazing people are here and the best of, it's like the best and the worst.

• 38:05Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm.

• 38:07Mae Martin?

  Yeah. But it is a really uniquely surreal, surreal time.

• 38:12Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Well, I mean, we're getting more information than ever. It's so there in your face and news is now entertainment.

• 38:20Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 38:21Fortune Feimster?

  Um, so, you know, you wanna stay informed, uh, but it, these times are requiring you to. Dig a little bit more because it's crazy how many videos are popping up now that are AI

• 38:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 38:34Fortune Feimster?

  And are fake. And it's so easy to like see a headline on this and be like, oh my God, this but it's you're required to like go a step further to like, is that true? So there's like a duty on our end to um not just bury your head in the sand and have this ignorance is bliss attitude, otherwise atrocities continue to happen um without any checks and balances. So you have to be present in that way, but I think what makes me stay hopeful um is also remembering to go out into the world and be around people and and you know, especially with the job that we have of traveling as stand ups, it allows us to meet a lot more

• 39:19Fortune Feimster?

  people than maybe we would if we stayed in our bubble. Um and then when I'm out in the world and I meet so many different people, that makes me hopeful because it reminds me like, oh, there are a lot of really good, kind people in all these different cities and states, red states, blue states.

• 39:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 39:38Fortune Feimster?

  And when I can experience life in person and and you know, sure, you see people act like digs, but you also see a lot of empathy, kindness, um and that makes me go, okay, there's a lot of us out there, a lot of nice people out there.

• 39:56Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 39:56Fortune Feimster?

  And that will um, you know, that's what we need.

• 40:00Mae Martin?

  Um, yeah, like I want, I want to do a a pruning of, not to bring up pruned cooter again, but like a pruning of my Instagram.

• 40:10Tig Notaro?

  No, please do. Yeah, especially if it's fortunes.

• 40:13Mae Martin?

  I want to prune fortunes. Uh, no, I want to like on my Instagram, make sure I'm only following people who are really.

• 40:20Fortune Feimster?

  That's my, that's my burner account.

• 40:22Mae Martin?

  Oh, prune, at prune cooter. My like people who are really informed.

• 40:26Fortune Feimster?

  Account, is that what it's called?

• 40:28Mae Martin?

  I don't know what that is.

• 40:30Fortune Feimster?

  It's called a fake account.

• 40:31Mae Martin?

  Finsta, Finsta, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like I, I, I'm accidentally following all of these random sites that are just putting endless pictures of like confrontations with people and, and, and yeah, I, I want to be following really informed people who are posting longer content or directing to places to donate or actions to take or solutions. Like, I got it because I, I'm really bad with Instagram. I'm really addicted and I'm constantly watching full-blown murders in front of my eyes. It's like, we're not meant to synthesize all this stuff, I think. So I, yeah, I'm trying to stay and, and, and end with

• 41:12Mae Martin?

  like our platforms, just like directing people to actual things they can do locally and nationally to help. Because there are things, and then the minute you do something local and you see the change, you feel so empowered and hopeful.

• 41:28Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm. One of the hope too is that, you know, when things swing one way really far, the hope is that it swings back at some point in the other direction so that there is that, um, where we're in this space right now, the hope is that it swings back over, um.

• 41:46Mae Martin?

  We kind of make it swing back.

• 41:47Fortune Feimster?

  Elections happen and, uh, I know that it gets scary when you hear people be like, I'm, you're never going to get rid of me. I want to go for third terms, the fourth term. The hope is that our, again, the checks and balances of our judiciarism stay in place and protect us from the, that kind of like, um, you know, monarchy or not, not even monarchy dictatorship.

• 42:15Fortune Feimster?

  Um, that we can remain a, a governing body that where people can vote on.

• 42:22Mae Martin?

  Well, that's, I mean, recognizing that that's a real threat of losing that and then really demanding it and, and like calling your representatives and flooding them with phone calls and demand, like that stuff really has an impact because it really disrupts things like, um, that, that five-year-old who was in the ICE camp and, and was released, Liam, he, that was-

• 42:47Tig Notaro?

  That was from pressure, yeah.

• 42:48Mae Martin?

  That was from pressure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, heartbreaking all the other kids who are still in there, but like that, that spotlight that we can put on things does help, I think, in a way.

• 42:59Tig Notaro?

  Absolutely.

• 42:59Fortune Feimster?

  We have to hope that the, the people coming up, the young people care. They gotta care. They gotta show up and vote and do things and be active and be participants and not just let things happen to us as a society and as a country. You have to see that, that, uh, participation and, and the hope is that they will give a shit about what happens.

• 43:24Mae Martin?

  I sometimes accidentally, I'm like, well, either I'm like, oh, I hope the grownups fix this, or I'm like, I hope these teens come and fix this. And I'm like, I'm the grownup. I, I forget, like-

• 43:36Tig Notaro?

  Who looks like a teen.

• 43:37Mae Martin?

  Who looks like a teen, sure.

• 43:39Tig Notaro?

  And can fix this.

• 43:40Mae Martin?

  But like, we are the, no one is coming to help us. We are the adults. And so, yeah, yeah, of course, pressure's on Gen Z to sort this out, but like, yeah, let's help them.

• 43:54Tig Notaro?

  I'm behind you, May.

• 43:55Mae Martin?

  I do feel like-

• 43:56Fortune Feimster?

  Listen, I don't ever miss a vote, ever.

• 43:59Mae Martin?

  No, man.

• 43:59Fortune Feimster?

  I have been, I've always seen that very seriously. Uh, my, my grandmother was, um, very active. My mom was very active. My mom's still to this day volunteers at the polls, uh, every election. So there's not one vote that I miss.

• 44:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's so nice. Ginger's, Ginger seems like a very active person. Like you said, the LGBT parents group and stuff, like she gets involved, she gets- Her hands dirty.

• 44:25Tig Notaro?

  P flag.

• 44:26Fortune Feimster?

  P flag.

• 44:27Tig Notaro?

  P flag. Is there a P flag in Canada or England?

• 44:31Mae Martin?

  There must be.

• 44:33Tig Notaro?

  Should we hear what Jane has to say?

• 44:35Mae Martin?

  Yes, please. I hope she helps us.

• 44:38Fortune Feimster?

  Gives us some pointers.

• 44:41Tig Notaro?

  I hope she does too. Come on Jane.

• 44:45Fortune Feimster?

  We need hope from Jane. We're hopeful Jane makes us hopeful.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  I've experienced personally and have witnessed enough change in my lifetime to know that hopelessness is not only self-defeating, it's unrealistic. Writer Annie Lamott said, "If you want to be hopeful, if you want to have hopeful feelings, do hopeful things." This would include paying attention and noticing when things are going well, celebrating incremental victories and improvements instead of waiting for the big final victory. Engage in caring and nurturing activities. They promote hopefulness. And by the way, my current action, which you've participated in, TIG, working with the entertainment industry to protect the First Amendment and electing

• 45:29Speaker 04

  people to office who don't kowtow to corporations but work for people and the planet. These actions have helped me remain hopeful. You know, the young climate activist Greta Thunberg, she says, "Everybody goes looking for hope. Look for action and hope will come."

• 45:52Speaker 04

  And another quote that I love, this is the Václav Havel. He was a very famous playwright in Czechoslovakia. He was imprisoned by the communists in 1985. He said, "Hope is the ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance for success." Five years later, communism fell and Václav Havel became president. You never know how things are going to turn out. So take action and be hopeful.

• 46:25Tig Notaro?

  I love it. I mean, how do you not want to

• 46:27Mae Martin?

  Say your voice.

• 46:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 46:28Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 46:29Tig Notaro?

  The best.

• 46:31Mae Martin?

  Mm hmm.

• 46:31Tig Notaro?

  The best.

• 46:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I like that Greta Thunberg quote as well. I'm trying. Yeah, I mean, if, send us, if you're, if you're listening and you have info organizations that you think would be good for us to be aware of, or ideas for the handsome community to get involved. You're on the Reddit page that I never look at. Just kidding. I look at it a lot.

• 46:55Mae Martin?

  Suggest some, some stuff locally, you know, meet up with each other. Let's

• 47:00Fortune Feimster?

  Fortune loves a meetup.

• 47:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 47:03Fortune Feimster?

  So many meetups.

• 47:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 47:05Fortune Feimster?

  Constantly meeting up. Well, it's got to start in your, you know, start in your community.

• 47:10Tig Notaro?

  Absolutely.

• 47:11Fortune Feimster?

  Start in your neighborhood.

• 47:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 47:12Fortune Feimster?

  You gotta start somewhere. I think that's the problem is everything feels so big and out of your control and out of your hands. And when things feel so big and overwhelming, people tend to go, well, there's nothing I can do about it. And they just go on about their, their lives. But there are things that you can do and it has to start. And they always say, start at a local level. Start around your town, around your city.

• 47:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 47:34Fortune Feimster?

  And find ways to make that place better and grow it from there.

• 47:40Tig Notaro?

  And I think people get intimidated and they're like, oh, I've never done this. Or I've never shown up to some community gathering or political event. And, you know, I think that it's so cliche, but showing up is half of it.

• 48:00Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 48:01Tig Notaro?

  I mean, really, it's whether you're pursuing your dream or showing up to political causes. And you don't even know where to start.

• 48:14Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 48:15Tig Notaro?

  Just showing up, people will point you in the right direction because they will be absolutely thrilled that you're there.

• 48:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you're, you're, you'll be, you'll feel that love as soon as you get there and be welcomed with open arms. I've been volunteering at the, that Food on Foot in LA and, and I've never done that before. And I was totally nervous the first time. I was just gonna do it wrong, or I was gonna, or it was gonna be scary. And, and now I'm, almost every Sunday I'm there, it makes me feel so

• 48:44Tig Notaro?

  That's amazing, May.

• 48:45Mae Martin?

  I'm loving it. And they, and every time I've been, they've run out of food for the line. So like, yeah, give what you can.

• 48:54Tig Notaro?

  I thought you were saying that like, it's a really great thing. Every time they run right out of food.

• 48:58Mae Martin?

  It's like they, they need support and they're one of many organizations that you have no idea what a difference your 20 bucks a month would make or your whatever. And the, and the boycotting, the economic activism, this whole situation is caused by greed and money. And that's something we have.

• 49:14Tig Notaro?

  Look at Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, that's just the perfect example.

• 49:19Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 49:19Tig Notaro?

  Unbelievable. When people were like, yeah, we're out.

• 49:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 49:24Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, he's, he's the king on top.

• 49:27Mae Martin?

  Cancel your subscriptions and or, or look for, you know, support minority owned companies and alternatives. Some of our sponsors are really great alternatives to things like, yeah, Amazon, even Whole Foods, I think is sketchy. So.

• 49:42Fortune Feimster?

  But that's what, that's the thing is that when, you know, people are seeing these things happen and they're like, that's not right. It is amazing to see people, um, you know, coming together very quickly. You know, like you said with the Kimmel thing, like they canceled all these subscriptions and it, and it quickly reversed what was happening. And then, I mean, even in Minneapolis, you, you're seeing the entire communities, you know, showing up to help other people. Obviously there are, you know, things that have happened there.

• 50:13Tig Notaro?

  And not backing down. I mean, it is incredible. And with the weather and the crowds turning out, it's just, it's really beautiful around such a sad, sad.

• 50:27Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's what I'm, I'm really loving there. There are a few people right now who are fighting for the accountability for Epstein perpetrators and, and they're out there and they, their refrain is we will not let this go. And yeah, we, that's what they're hoping we'll do, that we'll just be so overwhelmed, we'll go, oh, fuck, you know.

• 50:51Fortune Feimster?

  There's, it's just too much that people will just again, turn a blind eye, but people are going, no.

• 50:56Mae Martin?

  Don't let this go.

• 50:58Fortune Feimster?

  It would be so easy to just walk in your house and ignore it. And they're like, no.

• 51:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:03Fortune Feimster?

  So that's what, that's what's gonna make, uh, change. And seeing people be so brave is another thing that helps with the hope.

• 51:14Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:15Tig Notaro?

  And there's some serious bravery going on right now in the world. As much as there is horrendousness, the bravery that is in action is, it's

• 51:28Mae Martin?

  Very inspiring.

• 51:29Tig Notaro?

  It really is. It like I'm, I'm, I'm beside myself when I see the bravery that is going on.

• 51:36Mae Martin?

  I mean, I, I, an, an ex-girlfriend, like, close, close friend of mine, who I think I've talked about, who's in Gaza now with, with Doctors Without Borders and the bravery, like, I can't even talk about it without crying, but I'm like, there are hundreds of thousands of people out there doing that, putting their lives at risk, um, to bring aid. Yeah. Sorry.

• 51:59Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. A lot of sell those people out there.

• 52:01Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. It's, uh, it's really beautiful to see that kind of, um, action going on.

• 52:10Mae Martin?

  But also don't beat yourself up if, you know, and then get paralyzed. And then it's like, just do the little thing that you feel you can.

• 52:18Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 52:18Mae Martin?

  And then that will lead to another thing and another thing.

• 52:21Tig Notaro?

  And just show up, whether it's to a friendship, uh, a march, or your dream, showing up is really, really powerful.

• 52:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 52:33Tig Notaro?

  Well, how about that?

• 52:35Fortune Feimster?

  How about it? Serious today.

• 52:38Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, we really did.

• 52:40Fortune Feimster?

  Good thing I talked about cooters earlier.

• 52:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah, thank God. So we covered all our faces.

• 52:46Tig Notaro?

  And Hollywood events.

• 52:48Fortune Feimster?

  Man.

• 52:49Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 52:50Mae Martin?

  I'm going to get a massage after this, actually. I don't know why I just said that, but.

• 52:54Fortune Feimster?

  No, thank you for cheering. That was brave.

• 52:57Tig Notaro?

  I mean, that's showing up. You're going to show up for a massage.

• 53:00Fortune Feimster?

  You just said brave.

• 53:02Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 53:03Mae Martin?

  Hashtag brave.

• 53:07Tig Notaro?

  Well, I love you too.

• 53:10Fortune Feimster?

  Talking about this made me need a massage.

• 53:15Tig Notaro?

  I'm gonna go show up.

• 53:16Mae Martin?

  I'm gonna show up.

• 53:17Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:20Mae Martin?

  So, March 10th, what do you guys got coming up soon? Well, we have this live show I'm very excited about, May 4th, Hanson at The Wiltern as part of Netflix's A Joke Fest with Brittany Snow and Molly Ackerman.

• 53:32Fortune Feimster?

  In Los Angeles.

• 53:34Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 53:35Fortune Feimster?

  That's Los Angeles.

• 53:37Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 53:38Mae Martin?

  Cuidado.

• 53:39Tig Notaro?

  I have the Oscars this week, no big deal.

• 53:41Fortune Feimster?

  Oh shit.

• 53:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, Oscars this Sunday. And then I'm also on tour and you can catch me in Connecticut and Maine and New Jersey and California and Washington State, just so many, New York, I don't even know what to tell you, Oregon, I'm coming for you, Montana. Go to Tignotaro.com and also come see me in the good light on Apple TV, the documentary I produced about Andrea Gibson.

• 54:17Mae Martin?

  I'm, I will, when this comes out, I will have just finished my first little chunk of tour and on March 17th, I'm in Minneapolis. We just added an extra show at 9:30 and then Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and New York and Philadelphia on this really long stint, so please come to all those ones. There's still tickets on maymartin.net.

• 54:44Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, starting in April, I'm in Oklahoma City, Fayetteville, Arkansas, and Little Rock, Arkansas, San Antonio, Dallas, Texas, Des Moines, Toronto, Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Omaha, Portland, Maine and Detroit. So, check out a show. That's one of our small ways to try to help other people be hopeful is going around this country and trying to make people laugh and bring some levity and also bringing groups of people together that, you know, share that same energy and love and.

• 55:21Fortune Feimster?

  Acceptance and hopefully spreads that out to everybody else.

• 55:25Tig Notaro?

  Yes, indeed.

• 55:26Mae Martin?

  I think all of us are, have that experience of our, our shows. I'm sure maybe all comics feel this, but I, I feel like our particular,

• 55:36Mae Martin?

  you know, fan base is so full of warmth and connectivity and it's really a nice vibe. If you're feeling down, come out and give a stranger a hug.

• 55:45Tig Notaro?

  We're some lucky, lucky handsoms to have our, um, fan base. And please, if you'd like to continue building our handsome community, please share your favorite episodes with, uh, your loved ones and also don't forget to rate, review and subscribe. We're, um, also on YouTube, so, uh, you don't want to miss Fortunes, Cavs and Maze, Biceps, my haircut. I mean, it's, it's a wild time.

• 56:16Mae Martin?

  Sexy dances.

• 56:16Tig Notaro?

  That's right. Yeah, exactly like that with a shriveled coot. So, uh, until next time.

• 56:24Fortune Feimster?

  Keep it handsome.

• 56:27Tig Notaro?

  Handsome is hosted by me, Tig Notaro, Mae Martin and Fortune Themester. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willett. Email us at [email protected]. Follow us on social media, at HandsomePod. What a podcast. What a podcast.

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• 56:55Speaker 06

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• 56:56Speaker 05

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• 57:18Speaker 06

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