Pretty Little Episode #93

Mae and Tig speculate about science and name their favorite sitcom characters on a Pretty Little Episode that will make you APPLAUD and LAUGH! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit your questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepod http://speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepodThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:16Tig Notaro?

  Pretty little episode. Hey. Get your friend Tig. Who is it? That's May. Is that Mae Martin over there?

• 0:23Mae Martin?

  That's me, May, over here.

• 0:25Tig Notaro?

  May, it's me, Tig. How are you?

• 0:28Mae Martin?

  I'm well. I look like Grandpa Joe in bed here.

• 0:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you do.

• 0:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 0:34Tig Notaro?

  And I look like Grandpa Joe, just with my face.

• 0:37Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 0:39Mae Martin?

  I did forget that we were recording until about...

• 0:44Tig Notaro?

  That's not like you.

• 0:45Mae Martin?

  It's about six minutes ago, and I'm so relieved that I got it together just about.

• 0:53Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And how did you get it together? Because it doesn't look like you got it together from where I am. Because you're in bed.

• 1:02Mae Martin?

  I'm in, well, I'm in Venice, in LA.

• 1:06Tig Notaro?

  Italy?

• 1:07Mae Martin?

  No, I wish. I'm in Venice at Parv's, and I completely, so I've been scrambling. I had to borrow a laptop. And then the only room that doesn't have children and busyness in it is the bedroom.

• 1:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 1:20Mae Martin?

  So do you like Venice?

• 1:22Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's definitely a different town than when I was there. It had a little more of a, I mean, a fully indie vibe.

• 1:31Mae Martin?

  Oh, really?

• 1:32Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, on Abbott Kinney. I lived right around. Yeah, yeah, very indie. It was just like independent coffee shops, bookstores, little restaurants. And that there was nothing like what it is now.

• 1:51Mae Martin?

  I can imagine that. Yeah, now it's like sort of yuppie and then mixed with really sketchy.

• 1:58Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, well, I mean, Abbott Kinney is just like every big store is on there now. It's wild. It's really wild. But I still enjoy it. You know, it's just different. It's kind of similar to... Aspects of Austin, like I lived there when it had way more of like the keep Austin weird vibe.

• 2:20Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:21Tig Notaro?

  That, uh, that they're famous for. And now there's like some weird pockets, but it's mostly like really high end, cool.

• 2:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:32Tig Notaro?

  Same with Denver. I mean, so many places.

• 2:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:35Tig Notaro?

  That are just like, wow, this is, this is different.

• 2:38Mae Martin?

  So like, where does that end? Like, where are we headed? Is it, will it be cyclical?

• 2:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I don't know. I mean, everything, uh, there's such a, a, a leaning into like corporate.

• 2:52Mae Martin?

  Cypicism, yeah.

• 2:53Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And it, it's just, it's wild, but then I'm sure that'll be rejected. And then, you know.

• 3:00Mae Martin?

  I hope it's, uh, we need a rebellion again, like you going off Instagram. I hope that Gen Z eventually is like, we don't want any of this. And.

• 3:09Tig Notaro?

  Well, my kids, like if I take a picture, video of them, they're, they are like disgusted.

• 3:15Mae Martin?

  Really? They're like, remember with your mind?

• 3:19Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, they're just like, stop, stop taking pictures and videos of us.

• 3:24Mae Martin?

  Oh, I love that.

• 3:25Tig Notaro?

  I'm so sorry. Um, but you're right. What am I doing? But it's like, I wa- I wake up and I walk into their room and they're just like snuggled together, um, watching, independently watching their own, they have their iPad time in the morning and they sit next to each other with their own shows. Like Finn's watching baseball replays. Max is watching the Simpsons, but they also watch each other's screens and then they'll reach over and pause each other's screens and rewind it without ask. It's like, it's like just one being, you know what I mean? And it's so cute.

• 4:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's pretty cute.

• 4:03Tig Notaro?

  And it's hard to just peek in and be like, good morning, guys. And then not just stand there going, ah, this is the cutest thing.

• 4:12Mae Martin?

  Let me document this forever.

• 4:13Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 4:14Mae Martin?

  What's that quote? Like the revolution will not be televised? I can't remember what it's from, but I do feel like that's the next, the next wave. It'll be live show performance. It'll be like an underground thing. I don't know. I hope so.

• 4:29Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I think it's it's inevitable.

• 4:32Mae Martin?

  It's gotta be, right? I think people are gonna look back and go, I can't believe that we let people use the internet. It's so, it's so bad and addictive. I think they're gonna be like, that was crazy that we even let people near it.

• 4:46Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I'm three weeks.

• 4:52Mae Martin?

  Three weeks sober off Instagram.

• 4:54Tig Notaro?

  I'm three weeks off Instagram. It is completely fine. Like, I, I'm just like, there was nothing I was missing. There's, it's just like, I, there's things where it's like, as I've mentioned, I mentioned on that one episode where it's like, oh, it's fun to kind of like, I guess brag that like, oh, I'm on this project coming out, or, oh, I did this. But

• 5:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 5:18Tig Notaro?

  It's also like, people will see it. Like, I don't need to make the announcement. It's fine. You know?

• 5:25Mae Martin?

  I wonder, I feel like weed was so linked to counterculture in the past and, and not that, I mean, I got into so much trouble getting in cars with strangers and stuff, trying to find weed as a teenager. I don't want that for young people, but now that it's so, it's like a weed store is like an Apple store. Like, where does that counterculture come from? I don't know. Yeah.

• 5:44Tig Notaro?

  Well, it's even just in gay culture, that like, it used to, it used to be, and, and now it's, it's not at all, really.

• 5:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 5:54Tig Notaro?

  I mean, of course, there, there is, um, different, uh, uh, I, I just mean specifically gay. I'm not talking about like trans or non-binary, but like, being gay is, is borderline almost mainstream in ways, you know?

• 6:14Mae Martin?

  Well, in some places, but.

• 6:17Tig Notaro?

  Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like borderline, because in some pla, like, it is not, I am obviously not talking about places that where this doesn't apply. I'm just talking about how in like

• 6:31Mae Martin?

  Like LA.

• 6:32Tig Notaro?

  TV shows and, um,

• 6:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:35Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, just, there's like a gay character. That, that's what I mean, like mainstream, like, oh, yeah, of course, there's a gay character.

• 6:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Tig Notaro?

  No, it was, it was.

• 6:44Mae Martin?

  So recent.

• 6:45Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm. Very, very, very. And even coming out, like, there's so many stories of young people feeling like coming out is lame. You just don't even come out. You just, you just are.

• 7:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I hope that spreads.

• 7:03Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and you just let the world catch up with what you're doing. And again, I'm not saying that's everywhere with everyone, but it's, there's that borderline of it of, there's, it's, it's different.

• 7:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I hope, I hope, I mean, that pride is a protest, that slogan, I hope that, I think that, I wonder this year, I hope that it feels like that again. Anyways, how you doing?

• 7:29Tig Notaro?

  Anyway, I'm, I'm doing well. I, I slept last night. I've had the most insane 10 days, 11 days. And just one of those crazy back to back travel.

• 7:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 7:43Tig Notaro?

  Every day, land someplace, have meetings and things, and then no sleep, travel. I went to sleep.

• 7:53Tig Notaro?

  And I got my best night of sleep in years.

• 7:56Mae Martin?

  Great.

• 7:57Tig Notaro?

  It is wild. I was startled when I woke up.

• 8:00Mae Martin?

  You woke up like, what happened?

• 8:02Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God. Did I sleep? I slept. Oh, my God, I slept.

• 8:06Mae Martin?

  God.

• 8:06Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 8:07Mae Martin?

  What did you dream about?

• 8:08Tig Notaro?

  Uh, there were no dreams.

• 8:10Mae Martin?

  Oh, good. That's good. So then you're, yeah.

• 8:12Tig Notaro?

  No, if you dream, that means you're, you're in a deeper sleep.

• 8:16Mae Martin?

  Oh, really? Okay.

• 8:17Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 8:18Mae Martin?

  Sometimes, though, I wake up exhausted from, from dreaming nightmarish things. Like, last night, I dreamed I was stabbed by a haunted blade that cursed me. And when it stabbed me, I started speaking with a British accent. That was the dream. And I woke up like this, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was making this weird noise. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 8:37Tig Notaro?

  Are you still recording your night noises?

• 8:40Mae Martin?

  No, I've taken a break and I need to get back into it.

• 8:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, because I would love to have heard, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 8:45Mae Martin?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Um, should we listen to some questions?

• 8:51Tig Notaro?

  I would love that. That's why we're here.

• 8:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:54Tig Notaro?

  That's why we're queer. Get used to it.

• 8:56Mae Martin?

  Get used to it.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Hi handsome. My name is Sarah and I'm in Portland, Oregon. I have a question for you about research and science and nature. I'm wondering if you had access to any amount of money and all the knowledge in the world, and there was a question about nature that you wanted answered, whether that be something botanical, biological, ecological, hydrological, mycological? Yeah, you get it. Yeah, what would it be? What would you research and why?

• 9:27Mae Martin?

  Okay, Sarah's smart. I mean...

• 9:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, she knew all of the ichl words.

• 9:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Mycological? Whoa.

• 9:35Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 9:37Mae Martin?

  Well, mine would be cosmological. It's just that like, I need some answers to things like black holes and...

• 9:48Tig Notaro?

  Oh, talk to Max.

• 9:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I would like to. Yeah.

• 9:52Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 9:52Mae Martin?

  I need, I mean, it's just the big questions of about, yeah, whether the laws of physics apply everywhere in the universe, whether quantum entanglement is real. Blackological.

• 10:06Tig Notaro?

  Blackholgical.

• 10:07Mae Martin?

  Blackholgical.

• 10:09Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 10:10Mae Martin?

  Blackicalhulgical and, um, yeah, it's about the fabric of our, of our universe. That's what I want to know, like, and on the smallest, most quantum level. Because they're so, it's so mysterious. Like, there's so much that we just go, wow, yeah, that's crazy.

• 10:27Tig Notaro?

  We just accept it and it all kind of make, like, it all feeds into itself and works together. And it's like, wow, it just does that, I guess.

• 10:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah, like particles can be in two places at once and we just go, wow, okay.

• 10:47Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, okay.

• 10:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I think we know nothing. So, yeah, I think it would be about that, dimensions and things. Yeah. What about you?

• 10:57Tig Notaro?

  Dimensional logical.

• 10:59Mae Martin?

  Dimensional logical.

• 11:06Tig Notaro?

  I don't know if mine is quite right, but I think I'm just, I'm curious what, and I, I really am scared of and intrigued by simultaneously the discussions around AI. But I wonder, as destructive as it is, will it potentially be helpful in ways with nature and the planet and climate change? And, or is that just insane? I mean,

• 11:47Mae Martin?

  It's really hard when there's like, experts saying both things about,

• 11:51Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 11:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:52Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 11:53Mae Martin?

  So you're saying like, could it actually escalate a big awakening for us, maybe like it? Yeah.

• 12:00Tig Notaro?

  Or find ways to, yeah, fix or inform us.

• 12:07Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 12:08Tig Notaro?

  In ways to like, there's a hurricane coming or an earthquake, you know, could AI,

• 12:16Tig Notaro?

  wildfires.

• 12:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Why are we not seeing that yet? Like my, my big conspiracy theory is that something's going on in the oceans, like orca are planning things or aliens live down there. Something's happening because I'm like, why have we not by now fed in whale sounds to AI? Decoded what they're saying and we're communicating with whales. That seems so easy.

• 12:37Tig Notaro?

  Well, let's get started.

• 12:39Mae Martin?

  Let's get on that, you know?

• 12:41Tig Notaro?

  Let's get down there and record those guys.

• 12:44Mae Martin?

  I want to hear what they're talking about. And there's some shady stuff going on, like the government just came out and said it's illegal to talk to dolphins. And it's like, why'd you make that law suddenly? What are you afraid of them telling us?

• 12:55Tig Notaro?

  Wait, where did you see this?

• 12:57Mae Martin?

  Thomas, is that real? Also

• 13:00Tig Notaro?

  Can't be real.

• 13:01Mae Martin?

  Two guys recently have claimed that they were kidnapped by dolphins to build underwater cities. They were Florida guys. I don't know.

• 13:09Tig Notaro?

  Are you sure that you're getting actual information?

• 13:12Mae Martin?

  I don't know.

• 13:14Tig Notaro?

  Another reason I had to get off Instagram.

• 13:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah, seriously.

• 13:17Tig Notaro?

  Like, I'm like, is this a real cute baby squirrel I'm looking at?

• 13:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:23Tig Notaro?

  Is this a real news story? And then I was like, ugh.

• 13:27Speaker 04

  So there is something called the Marine Mammal Protection Act. And it it makes it illegal to try to interact with dolphins. Because you could, you know, mess up their.

• 13:42Mae Martin?

  Vibe?

• 13:43Speaker 04

  You know. Let's see, I'm just trying to read. For example, when adult dolphins become accustomed to getting food from people, their young might may not learn to forage.

• 13:56Mae Martin?

  Okay, yeah.

• 13:57Tig Notaro?

  But does it say you can't talk to them?

• 13:59Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 04

  I'm not saying anything about talking.

• 14:03Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 14:05Mae Martin?

  Is it illegal to talk to dolphins?

• 14:08Tig Notaro?

  Is it illegal to wave to dolphins?

• 14:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, it says that it's, no, yeah, you're right.

• 14:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 14:18Tig Notaro?

  Should we hear Sarah's answer?

• 14:21Mae Martin?

  Well, also, can I say that it is wild that so many of the people who created AI and the CEOs of these companies have quit and are saying this will destroy us and we cannot be using this. And we're all just like, ah, anyway. And they made it, they created it.

• 14:38Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 14:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah, let's see what Sarah has to say.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  I think for me, a long time ago, I read about a study about a scientist who had recorded like radio frequencies or something of plants and how they changed when things in the environment changed or a human walked by. And it was how like plants communicate with each other. So I'd want to know what plants were saying about us and about each other. Thank you so much for all the joy you've brought to me. I've listened to every single podcast, every one.

• 15:07Mae Martin?

  Thanks.

• 15:07Tig Notaro?

  Does she mean every podcast ever made or ours?

• 15:10Mae Martin?

  Not just ours, yeah.

• 15:13Tig Notaro?

  Thank you, Sarah.

• 15:14Mae Martin?

  But also, that is very juicy, thinking about the trees, communication networks, their roots and things.

• 15:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. Isn't there something, like you were talking to the jar, it wasn't a plant, but you were talking to some things and?

• 15:30Mae Martin?

  Rice.

• 15:30Tig Notaro?

  Rice, right, which is basically, you know, a plant-ish.

• 15:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you're right. And it was molding and mold is living, isn't it?

• 15:39Tig Notaro?

  Yes, it is.

• 15:40Mae Martin?

  See, we know this stuff. We don't need high school education.

• 15:43Tig Notaro?

  We're scientists. No, I don't need any more information.

• 15:47Speaker 05

  My dearest handsoms, this is Mark in Bristol in the UK. I'm a huge sitcom fan. They've got me through some very difficult times. And I'd like to know, who is your favorite sitcom character of all time and why?

• 16:04Mae Martin?

  Oh, wow. That has, I got a little shiver of excitement there at this question.

• 16:11Tig Notaro?

  I know exactly who mine is.

• 16:13Mae Martin?

  Do you?

• 16:14Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I do.

• 16:15Mae Martin?

  I wonder if I know you well enough to guess, but I.

• 16:18Tig Notaro?

  Oh, let's hear.

• 16:20Mae Martin?

  Is, is it someone from like wagon train or something?

• 16:29Tig Notaro?

  From the Waltons.

• 16:30Mae Martin?

  From the Waltons, yeah.

• 16:31Tig Notaro?

  No, that wasn't a sitcom. I think I've talked about one of my favorite sitcoms of all time was Good Times. It was, yeah, it was just such incredible balance of comedy and intense drama and all in a half hour and whatever, 22 minutes.

• 16:53Mae Martin?

  Wow.

• 16:54Tig Notaro?

  I mean, I loved everyone, but I really loved the dad. It's, in fact, he died in the past year or two. His name was John Amos. And he was like, just, I don't know, like, there was something about him, his like.

• 17:15Tig Notaro?

  The love for his kids.

• 17:19Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 17:19Tig Notaro?

  And his wife and was so intense, you know?

• 17:26Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:27Tig Notaro?

  And, um, and it was all, it was, you know, the seven, did I already say that? It was the seventies. Uh, oh, okay. And it was this, um, this black family in, um, you know, they were, uh, they were a struggling family, but there was like that, they were a family.

• 17:46Mae Martin?

  I love that.

• 17:47Tig Notaro?

  You know, like broke and like trying to make their way and like having some real issues. But man, was the comedy there. Um, and, uh, I, that's who comes to mind right away is John Amos.

• 18:03Mae Martin?

  I wonder if you unconsciously, cause you feel that passionately about your family unit. You kind of have that quality of like, these are my, I ride or die for these people.

• 18:12Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. This is my little crew. This is our team, you know?

• 18:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 18:17Tig Notaro?

  He was like, he would get real mad though, like whereas, um,

• 18:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:23Tig Notaro?

  All the, the, all, you know, every, every version of, or every, um, uh, what am I trying to say?

• 18:32Mae Martin?

  Iteration?

• 18:32Tig Notaro?

  Every end of the spectrum, you know?

• 18:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Tig Notaro?

  Like, uh, fun, funny, angry.

• 18:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:40Tig Notaro?

  Intense, sad, all of those things. Whereas I, you know, when Max and Finn act up, I'm like, did I tell you how I correct them?

• 18:47Mae Martin?

  Oh yeah, you go, uh-uh.

• 18:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I go, guys, uh-uh.

• 18:51Mae Martin?

  I love that, the power. That's so cool. Um, I, so I, yeah, I liked that you didn't go for like a wacky character. You went for the, yeah, the, the main guy.

• 19:04Tig Notaro?

  See the, you gotta see Good Times.

• 19:06Mae Martin?

  I gotta see Good Times.

• 19:07Tig Notaro?

  I haven't seen it in years, but I, I, I, I think it holds, I would imagine it holds up.

• 19:14Mae Martin?

  I'm gonna say I have two favorites that come to mind. Both of them, I think, are like crushes, really. One is Karen on Will and Grace, Megan Mullally.

• 19:24Tig Notaro?

  Do you know Megan?

• 19:27Mae Martin?

  I met her once and I'm such a big fan and the voice and the, her timing is so good. She's just really effortless. And then I gotta go Elaine Benes. Elaine, and I'm, I was a Seinfeld fan growing up, but not massively, but I was an Elaine fan because she's the heart of the show. And without Elaine, it would have been all just sardonic and kind of, but she really, she's such an amazing actor that you really buy it, even in these insane situations. And yeah, it just made the show what it was. Yeah, deep Elaine fan. Yeah, those are my answers. Shall we hear what Mark says? I wonder if there'll be British ones, like The Royal Family is a a British sitcom that everyone loved.

• 20:11Speaker 05

  My favorite is gotta be Megan Mullally's Karen from Will and Grace. I could just watch clips of Karen over and over again all day. I think she's a comic genius. But I would love to see the three of you in a three-hander sitcom together. I think, yeah, you've gotta make that happen. Okay, love you guys.

• 20:31Tig Notaro?

  Thank you, Mark. Yeah, Three's Company, we'll remake Three's Company.

• 20:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah, perfect. Never seen it, but yeah, imagine the three of us. Do you think you would be, I feel like you would be the kind of, like Fortune would be the wackiest character, don't you think?

• 20:47Tig Notaro?

  Well, yeah, of course.

• 20:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah, Fortune would be kind of coming in every morning like a ball of energy.

• 20:54Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm, singing, of course.

• 20:55Mae Martin?

  I'd be in a crisis always and you'd be kind of dryly receiving it all and commenting on it.

• 21:04Mae Martin?

  It works, you know?

• 21:05Tig Notaro?

  If he wants to make this.

• 21:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:08Mae Martin?

  Well, that was a delight.

• 21:09Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, absolutely. Always is, always will be.

• 21:13Mae Martin?

  Always will be.

• 21:14Tig Notaro?

  I'm gonna be in Albany, New York. Come on out and see me in Peekskill, New York, and Clayton, New York, and Spokane, Washington. Eugene, Oregon, LA, I have some dates, Rochester, New York, Colorado Springs. Go to Tignotaro.com for all show information.

• 21:34Mae Martin?

  Eugene, Oregon, there's Jerry Garcia's widow has a weed farm up there and his daughter in Eugene, Oregon. He's got a deep connection to Eugene. Anyways.

• 21:45Tig Notaro?

  None of what you just said is surprising.

• 21:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I am on June 10th at Largo in LA. And that's kind of it for live shows. Oh, I'm in Guelph and Yellowknife in mid-July, kind of doing music festivals. But check out maymartin.net. And also, please keep submitting your questions to us and your advice requests to speakpipe.com/hansampod. We love hearing it.

• 22:13Tig Notaro?

  We sure do. And until next time, keep it

• 22:18Mae Martin?

  Pretty handsome.

• 22:21Fortune Feimster?

  Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod. What a podcast!

• 22:43Speaker 00

  That was a HeadGum Podcast.