Pretty Little Episode #75

Mae and Tig get songs stuck in their head and chat about social media on a Pretty Little Episode you'll remember forever! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit your questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepod http://speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepodThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Mae Martin?

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• 0:17Tig Notaro?

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• 0:34Mae Martin?

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• 1:18Mae Martin?

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• 1:37Mae Martin?

  Handsome, handsome, chat with friends on the handsome pod. Chat with friends on the handsome pod. Pretty little episode.

• 1:50Tig Notaro?

  Good morning and hello at whatever time of day it is where you are. Uh, this is Tig Notaro, sitting here with.

• 2:00Mae Martin?

  Mae Martin.

• 2:01Tig Notaro?

  Yes. Okay. I gave it away. We're recording very early in the morning on this day.

• 2:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah, I haven't spoken out loud yet today and.

• 2:09Tig Notaro?

  I haven't shaved yet.

• 2:11Mae Martin?

  Uh, yeah, clearly.

• 2:12Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. This is, we've figured out the earliest we have ever recorded.

• 2:18Mae Martin?

  Seven AM.

• 2:19Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, seven AM.

• 2:20Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:21Tig Notaro?

  I have to fly away today.

• 2:23Mae Martin?

  Where are you, where are you off to?

• 2:24Tig Notaro?

  I'm off to New York and in a crazy twist of life, the Star Trek premiere is overlapping with massive press for not just the premiere, but the documentary in the same week.

• 2:42Mae Martin?

  Oh, no way. In New York?

• 2:43Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's, and, and award shows as well.

• 2:47Mae Martin?

  Jesus.

• 2:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. So it's like pure insanity what I'm about to go away into this week. Normally it's just crazy press for one thing and it overlaps for two.

• 3:00Mae Martin?

  When they send you those schedules for the, for the upcoming days and you're like, this is not.

• 3:05Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I, I can't even think about it. When I look at my calendar, I just.

• 3:09Mae Martin?

  Just one, one foot in front of the other.

• 3:11Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I'm like, well, somebody will pick me up, drop me off there. I'll be moved to this. So like, I can't even think about it. I just, I, I glance at that and never look at it again when I, when I fly out and do something like this. Anyway, uh, thanks. Thanks for getting up to record.

• 3:30Mae Martin?

  Hey, it's been, it's been a whirlwind. I, I, I got in bed maybe 11:30. I was like, this is fun. And then couldn't really sleep and then remembered at about 12:30, I have no coffee in the home. And I was like, oh no. And so I pre-ordered for delivery a coffee and then it was like nail biting. Watching the clock, it got here at like 7:01. I ran out to get it. Yeah.

• 3:58Tig Notaro?

  Wow.

• 3:59Mae Martin?

  And then I couldn't sleep and I dreamed that I'd forgotten how to have sex.

• 4:03Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I don't think that's the case. Yeah, Thomas is shaking his head wildly. No.

• 4:10Mae Martin?

  This is how I'm feeling.

• 4:12Tig Notaro?

  We believe in you, little cow.

• 4:13Mae Martin?

  Thank you. I got it. It's, yeah, I dreamed that there was this huge house party at my house, but my childhood home, of course. And then hundreds of people and I kept walking around going, there's so many hot people here. There's tons of hot people. And I didn't know what to do with it. And I was like, how do I make a move? Yeah.

• 4:33Tig Notaro?

  That's so funny. Now, I had a dream, but very different.

• 4:38Mae Martin?

  Oh, tell me.

• 4:39Tig Notaro?

  It was about Thomas.

• 4:43Mae Martin?

  No.

• 4:43Speaker 03

  I dreamed about you guys. I was dreaming about like, missing the podcast.

• 4:48Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Wow, two against one.

• 4:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 4:55Tig Notaro?

  May is over there just dreaming about sex and then you and I are dreaming about each other. Yeah, I had a dream that Thomas had found these, like, organic, all-natural hand sanitizer wipes that were individually packaged. And, and, and he had come over. Oh, I had told, I was like, oh, I like these. Where'd you get this? And he was like, oh, I don't know. And then, and then he had come over and brought a whole box of them and placed them in my pantry,

• 5:38Tig Notaro?

  like, standing up against food. So when I walked in the pantry, I saw all these little individually packaged hand sanitizer wipes.

• 5:46Mae Martin?

  That's really funny. Is that a new sponsor, Thomas?

• 5:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  That's amazing.

• 5:55Tig Notaro?

  I know. I think it happened, yes, that's what I meant to say. Thank you for that. I think that happened because my family, my kids and Stephanie were both making fun of me yesterday about my germ issues. And they were all imitating me, the way they imitate me behind my back. And I got, yeah. And they laugh. I was like, you guys talk about this and do this with each other? And they're like, yeah, this is how you open a door. This is how, like, if we're in a public bathroom, what you do. This is, and then, oh my God, it was making me laugh so hard.

• 6:34Mae Martin?

  There's nothing better than being like, really seen by the people you love, like really observed and lovingly mocked.

• 6:42Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I was gonna say, and made fun of behind my back is what brought me the most joy.

• 6:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 6:52Mae Martin?

  Well, I, um, when you said Thomas had found, it made me think of this that I'm really excited about. But also I'm worried that I've like crossed over and says pure nerd. I, I ordered a metal detector.

• 7:08Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yes, you did. You did cross over.

• 7:11Mae Martin?

  It happened, right?

• 7:12Tig Notaro?

  Oh, there goes May.

• 7:14Mae Martin?

  There I go.

• 7:14Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, there you go. But that is also the dream of every person up until, I was gonna say a certain age, and I'm assuming that's 38, 39?

• 7:25Mae Martin?

  Well, Sabrina, 38.

• 7:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 7:28Mae Martin?

  Our, our friend Sabrina said, oh, that was on Wolfie's Christmas list this year. And we didn't get it. He's, he's seven. And, uh, but so I'm gonna take it.

• 7:38Tig Notaro?

  You're not.

• 7:38Mae Martin?

  I'm definitely not.

• 7:39Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 7:40Mae Martin?

  But now at least I know I have someone else interested in it in my life. Now, I'm thinking, do I either go to the beach or do I go just around my house? My house is 120 years old. I might find a coin.

• 7:53Tig Notaro?

  I would return it.

• 7:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 7:55Tig Notaro?

  I would go, I would go return it. No, it sounds fun. I, the beach, maybe?

• 8:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah, beach or like, I mean, I wish there were like some ancient castles or something, but yeah, beach is probably the best bet. I just wanna get some, some people's lost wedding rings and stuff. I mean, really what I want is antiques and relics, but if I'm on the beach and I'm finding rings, jewels, sure.

• 8:18Tig Notaro?

  And you, what about an antique store?

• 8:22Mae Martin?

  Um, yeah, I could, yeah, I could hit that up.

• 8:24Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's possible. But you also, you would, and maybe this might, I'm projecting my own embarrassment of actually

• 8:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:32Tig Notaro?

  walking around with a metal detector.

• 8:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Tig Notaro?

  But I, if I did that, I would have to go do it on the beach because that's where people do that.

• 8:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 8:41Tig Notaro?

  And you could, you could disguise, like, I'm thinking, oh, I could disguise myself, put a hat on, a mustache, whatever. You're not, you're not concerned about that.

• 8:50Mae Martin?

  Well, I'm a little, I'm, listen, you know, my ex lives by the beach. What if I bump into, that would be really embarrassing if I'm beep beep beep beep.

• 8:58Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh, yes.

• 9:00Mae Martin?

  Oh, I'm scared. I know a lot of people that live down in, you know, Santa Monica.

• 9:05Tig Notaro?

  Go at an odd time that you know that your ex won't be at the beach.

• 9:09Mae Martin?

  Right, right.

• 9:10Tig Notaro?

  You know?

• 9:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I'll go and it'll end up being like Singles Day at the beach and.

• 9:18Tig Notaro?

  Well, that'll work out for you as long as you can remember how to have sex.

• 9:21Mae Martin?

  I won't, I'll have my, my pants pulled up high and my little.

• 9:25Tig Notaro?

  Yes, you absolutely will.

• 9:26Mae Martin?

  Propeller hat on and I'll be.

• 9:29Tig Notaro?

  Well, then everyone will know it's you.

• 9:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 9:31Tig Notaro?

  But that's great for Singles Day.

• 9:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 9:35Tig Notaro?

  Everyone's, there's, there's me.

• 9:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Um, I'll let you know if I find anything, though. I feel like Max and Finn would be into metal detecting.

• 9:42Tig Notaro?

  Oh, I think so.

• 9:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah.

• 9:45Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 9:45Mae Martin?

  Maybe I'll, I'll show them.

• 9:47Tig Notaro?

  Max is becoming quite the, he's, it's really going to be interesting to see what he's gonna do in life because he is so equally interested in science as he is in comedy. And, uh, he does impressions like nobody's business.

• 10:07Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 10:08Tig Notaro?

  It's really impressive and he has the jokes to go along with it. It's really something.

• 10:14Mae Martin?

  Who are his top impressions?

• 10:16Tig Notaro?

  Well, you know, he's, he's nine. He, he does, uh, a lot of South Park and Family Guy.

• 10:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:23Tig Notaro?

  The new, the new addition is, um.

• 10:27Tig Notaro?

  Pro football referee.

• 10:29Mae Martin?

  Oh, right.

• 10:30Tig Notaro?

  Delivery of all of the calls and he does the wrong hand gestures, but um,

• 10:36Mae Martin?

  That's really funny.

• 10:37Tig Notaro?

  over there going, no, Max, you actually you grab your wrist and then you and then but we were like, it doesn't matter. It makes it even better that he's doing the wrong hand gesture.

• 10:46Mae Martin?

  That's great.

• 10:47Tig Notaro?

  But his delivery and his voice when he does it is really something.

• 10:52Mae Martin?

  Well, maybe he'll do both science and he'll be Bill Nye the Science Guy.

• 10:56Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah, maybe so.

• 10:58Mae Martin?

  Um, I thought about you the other day because I watched, I imagine that you're into Jeff Buckley or you?

• 11:04Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:05Mae Martin?

  So I watched this documentary.

• 11:06Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 11:07Mae Martin?

  Have you seen it?

• 11:08Tig Notaro?

  I have not.

• 11:09Mae Martin?

  You gotta watch it. It was, I mean, his, I don't know how I didn't, I was never deeply into him.

• 11:15Tig Notaro?

  Oh, you weren't? He seems right, he seems like you, you were born for him.

• 11:19Mae Martin?

  Yeah, he's totally, I'm obsessed. I mean, I, I always love. I like the album, but watching his like vocal performances and him singing Hallelujah and oh my God.

• 11:31Tig Notaro?

  I know, I know it.

• 11:33Mae Martin?

  What a beautiful man.

• 11:34Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 11:36Mae Martin?

  Well, those are our morning thoughts.

• 11:38Tig Notaro?

  They are. Those are our morning thoughts and um, should we get into other people's thoughts? Whatever time zone they're in or day?

• 11:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:48Tig Notaro?

  Headspace?

• 11:49Mae Martin?

  Hmm.

• 11:50Speaker 04

  Hello, handsome. My name is Ken. I am from Portland, Oregon. And I just had to record a message for you to say that I kind of hate you right now because I got the handsome bands and songs stuck in my head for several days now. I love the song. It's super cute and it just won't leave my head. So my question is, what songs do y'all get stuck in your head? Thanks for everything.

• 12:14Mae Martin?

  Um, Ken, thank you. I was just saying, Ken, thank you.

• 12:19Tig Notaro?

  Oh, oh, I thought you were saying can like see it like can.

• 12:23Mae Martin?

  Can.

• 12:24Tig Notaro?

  Can we? Yes. Um, thank you, Ken. Uh, it is so catchy. It's the only thing that's in my head now.

• 12:31Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 12:32Tig Notaro?

  It's catchier than Jeff Buckley.

• 12:34Mae Martin?

  Oh, my Lord. I, well, I get the theme song, the Hanson theme song stuck in my head for sure.

• 12:40Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God, not.

• 12:42Mae Martin?

  Not Holiday Wishes?

• 12:43Tig Notaro?

  Wishes? I mean, that's like the greatest song ever.

• 12:47Mae Martin?

  Handsome holiday wishes.

• 12:51Tig Notaro?

  While we wash the dishes.

• 12:55Mae Martin?

  I mean, this is Thomas's creation. Um, yeah, it is very, very catchy. But what, yeah, what are the, like, earworm songs that you sing around the house?

• 13:06Tig Notaro?

  Well, you know what we, what I sing a lot around the house is that, "I love you so."

• 13:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, what's that?

• 13:14Tig Notaro?

  And I want you to know that I'm gonna miss your love.

• 13:20Mae Martin?

  Oh, don't know it.

• 13:21Tig Notaro?

  You walk out, you don't know that?

• 13:24Mae Martin?

  No, but I like it.

• 13:25Tig Notaro?

  Please don't go.

• 13:26Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah, please don't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:28Tig Notaro?

  Okay, cuz I always say to Stephanie, Max, Finn, and all of Kitty City, or as I've mentioned, the exhausted sausages.

• 13:39Tig Notaro?

  Uh, I always say, "Oh, I love you so. Oh, I love you so." And, uh, and then it kicks me into, "I love you so."

• 13:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. That's not stuck in your head, that's for sure.

• 13:54Mae Martin?

  No, I mean, I don't know then what this says about my life that this is the one that's stuck in my head, but it's, uh, Edelweiss from, I'm often singing.

• 14:04Tig Notaro?

  Well, that plus your metal detector, no drama.

• 14:13Mae Martin?

  And, and sometimes I also, that one from, uh, Sound of Music that goes, "Somewhere in my wicked, miserable past, I must have done something good." You know that one?

• 14:27Tig Notaro?

  I don't.

• 14:28Mae Martin?

  And here you are, standing there, loving me, whether or not you should.

• 14:35Tig Notaro?

  Reminds me of when you were singing, "Eggs for breakfast, who wants them? Eggs for breakfast, who needs them?" What is this song?

• 14:45Mae Martin?

  How do you like your eggs in the morning?

• 14:51Mae Martin?

  You know that Barenaked Ladies song that goes, "It's been one week to do..."

• 14:56Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah, yeah. It's been.

• 14:58Mae Martin?

  In my head all the time, "It's been one week."

• 15:02Tig Notaro?

  Hilarious. That is such a great intro to a song.

• 15:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:07Tig Notaro?

  And I'm sure they had no idea. It would be such a...

• 15:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 15:12Tig Notaro?

  Everybody knows that, those two words.

• 15:15Mae Martin?

  Immediately.

• 15:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, "It's been..." You did it really well.

• 15:20Mae Martin?

  Thank you.

• 15:21Tig Notaro?

  Please do it again.

• 15:23Mae Martin?

  Now I'm nervous.

• 15:24Tig Notaro?

  You're overthinking it. You're overthinking it.

• 15:26Mae Martin?

  "It's been..." Wait.

• 15:27Tig Notaro?

  You did it. You did it. You did it.

• 15:29Mae Martin?

  Did I?

• 15:30Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yeah. And they're Canadian, right?

• 15:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah, and I'm hosting the... When does this come out, Thomas?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  January 23rd.

• 15:36Mae Martin?

  Oh, can't say. Okay, well, I'm hosting a Canadian event. And I'm hoping that they're gonna be there. And I'm thinking I might say, "It's been..." onstage.

• 15:48Mae Martin?

  Just maybe every time I look at them, I go...

• 15:51Tig Notaro?

  That's so great. "It's been one week to do..." I don't hear that on the radio much.

• 15:58Mae Martin?

  No.

• 15:59Tig Notaro?

  But I'm also not listening to the radio much.

• 16:01Mae Martin?

  Or in Canada. It's every second song in Canada is "It's been..." And now, we know we played it 20 minutes ago, but...

• 16:09Tig Notaro?

  "It's been..."

• 16:13Tig Notaro?

  May, you've ruined my life again. I can't believe Ken had no answer. How dare you. You think you're mad at us, Ken? We're furious. Next question.

• 16:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah, let's hear it.

• 16:23Tig Notaro?

  "It's been..." Was that pretty good?

• 16:26Mae Martin?

  That was really good.

• 16:27Tig Notaro?

  "It's been..." Thomas?

• 16:29Speaker 03

  "It's been..."

• 16:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 16:32Tig Notaro?

  It's okay. All right. What's our next question?

• 16:36Tig Notaro?

  "It's been..."

• 16:37Mae Martin?

  "It's been..."

• 16:41Speaker 05

  Hi, Fortune, May and Tig. This is Danielle in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Tig, I saw you last time you were in Tulsa and you were a light in a very dark time for me, and I've always wanted to say thank you.

• 16:52Tig Notaro?

  Hmm.

• 16:53Speaker 05

  I would like some advice from you. My question is, how much should I share on social media? The more things happen in the world, the more I wonder if I'm being hypocritical or cowardly by not speaking out on social media. I decided a long time ago not to be a keyboard warrior. I don't hide my beliefs and I'm happy to have conversations with people in person, but I feel like arguing online is not productive. I wonder if I should speak out more. I wonder if I should stay more online though, and/or if it's okay for me to just continue sharing pictures of my pets and my son and poetry. So what do you think? What's your advice? Thank you.

• 17:38Speaker 05

  I love you all and I love listening to your podcast. Bye.

• 17:41Tig Notaro?

  Bye. Well, thanks for coming to the show when I was in Tulsa. I don't know if you've heard me mention this, but I love Tulsa.

• 17:50Mae Martin?

  Really?

• 17:51Tig Notaro?

  I do. It's such a cool little city.

• 17:54Mae Martin?

  I've never been.

• 17:55Tig Notaro?

  It's so cool. Yeah, I don't imagine, I couldn't, I couldn't picture you saying, oh yeah.

• 18:00Mae Martin?

  I love Tulsa.

• 18:01Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's been.

• 18:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's been.

• 18:05Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I, do you have any immediate feelings? I, I have some.

• 18:09Mae Martin?

  I struggle with it as well. I mean, yeah, it's confusing. I kind of go on a day by day basis. If something compels me, then, but also I'm in a tricky position right now because I'm waiting on a green card to come through and I'm really genuinely worried about, you know, they, they. Yeah, they tell you not to, that they're gonna look at your social media, which is so insane, but I don't know, I'm posting quite a bit. Yeah, I feel some responsibility if I can share specific resources or like direct people to other people who are better informed than me or, you know?

• 18:50Mae Martin?

  You have to know your limits as well and, but I, I, I just, I always feel like I'm not saying enough, basically. But I don't know. I also think social media is, it's like.

• 19:03Tig Notaro?

  Garbage can.

• 19:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah, it's so tough, but yeah.

• 19:07Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 19:08Mae Martin?

  What about you?

• 19:08Tig Notaro?

  I mean, I mean, I'll do the same every now and then I'll, I'll share something. But I think in general, just sharing in general, I have moments where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna say this, or I'm gonna post this, or whatever it is. And then when I do, I'm like, oh, what am I do? Like, who is this for? Who am I talking to? What am I? You know what I mean?

• 19:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 19:34Tig Notaro?

  Like, I, I just, it's so odd.

• 19:38Mae Martin?

  It's like, part of it, I feel like is about making sure that your followers and the people that support you and watch your comedy, you know where you stand on some things. Like, there's, there's an element of that of like,

• 19:53Mae Martin?

  yeah, it's definitely confusing.

• 19:55Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I just feel like there's also, there's a lot of people that solely live online. And the extent of their activism is just posting things. And that's not to say that's not great. But how many of those people are actually getting out and, and doing something? You know?

• 20:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Tig Notaro?

  And like, boots on the ground, doing something, making calls, lobbying, protesting.

• 20:25Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:25Tig Notaro?

  I think that when people, the trap that happens sometimes is that people that live pretty exclusively online see that as like, the real and only world. I remember years ago, something happened with somebody in the comedy community. And maybe I've shared this before, but I don't really ever, I have a Facebook account, but I don't ever go on that. I mean, my assistant posts things on there. But I went on because somebody had died, or I didn't know what had happened. I was, something, something I went on. And I saw somebody else from the comedy community saying,

• 21:08Tig Notaro?

  If any of you are still following this person who did this thing to this other person, unfollow me and unfriend me in real life and I, and I, it just really struck me where I was like, God, you're making the assumption that I'm on here as much as you are.

• 21:29Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 21:30Tig Notaro?

  And that I've gotten all your, not that he was writing it solely to me, but it's this, you start living in a world sometimes thinking that everybody is on all the time and, and that this is how they're only getting their information. This is how they're only sharing information.

• 21:47Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 21:48Tig Notaro?

  And it just becomes, it just really struck me that, that time that I saw that, that post where I was like, God, if I hadn't even come on to Facebook, I wouldn't have even known about this thing that was going on.

• 22:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah, there have definitely been moments where it feels like, yeah, everyone's keeping track of who's not posting a certain thing or, yeah, in a way that's really paralyzing and, and, and insane. Cause yeah, you don't know what people are doing in their, in their private life. I, I try to post like calls to action more than like commentary and, and yeah, donate and volunteer and stuff. But I don't know. I do feel, I mean, increasingly I do feel like some, I don't know what to do about America, about, and yeah, and Gaza. And yeah, so I'm, I'm trying to do more, but it's like even when I, I think I've said

• 22:44Mae Martin?

  when I posted like about the animal paintings and selling those, I got, I got flak from like left wing people who were like, hey, you should have done this sooner, but it took me a year to get it set up. And then also people being like, well, you know, you should send it to the money to private families and there instead of to an NGO. And it was like, oh man, this is what, this is what stops people from doing anything. It's so scary. You think you're going to get in trouble for doing the wrong thing. So I, I think you gotta just.

• 23:14Tig Notaro?

  It is very paralyzing.

• 23:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Do what feels right in the moment.

• 23:18Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 23:19Mae Martin?

  But we do for sure have a platform that is useful. So, but then you want to also spread joy and not. Alienate people, but I don't know. Oh, God, what am I? It's early. It's 7:00 AM.

• 23:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, it's 7:00 AM. It's almost 7:30. But I stand by everything we said.

• 23:37Mae Martin?

  Do you?

• 23:38Tig Notaro?

  I do. I do. It's tricky. And, uh, and social media is definitely a tool and a way to, to be helpful, but it's also a way to be hurtful. And it's also not the only way.

• 23:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I mean, the main thing we need to do really is get people to vote and then, and then lawmakers will make change and/or

• 23:59Tig Notaro?

  And boycott.

• 24:00Mae Martin?

  And boycott. Yes, yes.

• 24:02Tig Notaro?

  I mean, that's a massive thing. But that goes back to sharing, um, outlets.

• 24:08Mae Martin?

  Yes, specific resources and stuff. But man, yeah, let's get people more politically engaged because then the actual politicians we elect will do their job.

• 24:18Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm. And you can also be politically engaged in so many other areas.

• 24:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 24:24Tig Notaro?

  And not, you know, but again, it's complicated. Anyway, thank you, Danielle. Thank you, Ken. Um, and everybody listening, please submit your questions and advice requests to speakpipe.com/handsomepod.

• 24:40Mae Martin?

  Please, please do.

• 24:42Tig Notaro?

  Yes, please do. And also, please come see me on tour. Go to tignotaro.com for all of my show information, ticket links, and keep in mind that some dates are going to change. Some, some cities will be added. Um, and, um, what about you, May?

• 25:00Mae Martin?

  I have, um, if you go to maymartin.net, my tour is up there or check out Wayward on Netflix, please, or stream my music. Actually, I'm trying to get more people to listen to my music. That'd be amazing.

• 25:12Tig Notaro?

  You're a real talent, kid.

• 25:14Mae Martin?

  Thank you. Thanks. I'm writing some new tunes.

• 25:17Tig Notaro?

  Awesome.

• 25:18Mae Martin?

  Well, I guess all that remains is to

• 25:21Tig Notaro?

  Keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolette. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod.

• 25:41Mae Martin?

  What a podcast!

• 25:48Mae Martin?

  That was a HeadGum Podcast.