Maria Shriver asks about interview questions

Professional question-asker Maria Shriver asks Handsome who they'd want to interview on today's episode! Plus Tig in a dress, turkey corn dogs, "he was her wife" and much more Handsome hilarity! Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.com http://handsomepod.com/Watch Handsome on YouTube http://youtube.com/@handsomepod and Hulu https://www.hulu.com/series/b583d0bc-eeb0-4560-8b2b-5c8ae0248a19?play=false&utm_source=shared_linkThis is a Headgum https://headgum.com/ podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter https://x.com/headgum, Instagram https://www.instagram.com/headgum/, and Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum. Advertise on Handsome https://gumball.fm/shows/handsome via Gumball.fm http://gumball.fm/. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a HeadGum Podcast.

• 0:05Mae Martin?

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• 0:19Tig Notaro?

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• 0:36Fortune Feimster?

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• 1:49Mae Martin?

  Cheers.

• 1:51Fortune Feimster?

  Welcome to the handsome pod.

• 1:59Fortune Feimster?

  I'm Fortune Feimster.

• 2:00Tig Notaro?

  I'm Tig Notaro.

• 2:01Mae Martin?

  I'm Mae Martin.

• 2:02Fortune Feimster?

  And we're together in person.

• 2:05Tig Notaro?

  We are, for the second time this week.

• 2:07Fortune Feimster?

  This is incredible.

• 2:08Tig Notaro?

  This is wild.

• 2:09Fortune Feimster?

  Right. It feels like we are all just so like, I don't know, simpatico right now.

• 2:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, go to YouTube or Hulu and see what Fortune just did with her hands.

• 2:20Fortune Feimster?

  I did this.

• 2:21Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you are doing that.

• 2:23Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know why.

• 2:24Mae Martin?

  That's a perfect representation.

• 2:25Tig Notaro?

  That's what's happening.

• 2:27Fortune Feimster?

  We're very connected at the moment.

• 2:30Tig Notaro?

  It's, it never fails to be uber connecting in person.

• 2:35Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, that's why we held hands.

• 2:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Fortune Feimster?

  Just to feel it.

• 2:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Just to feel your pheromones again is electric.

• 2:44Fortune Feimster?

  Well, we saw each other this week because we had our live show in LA for the Netflix is a Joke Festival. And that was awesome.

• 2:53Tig Notaro?

  Yes. And when we say this week, we mean a few weeks ago.

• 2:57Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:00Tig Notaro?

  Um, but in real life, it was.

• 3:02Mae Martin?

  Wild. I think that might've been, I was thinking like the biggest show I've ever done.

• 3:06Tig Notaro?

  What do you mean?

• 3:07Mae Martin?

  Numbers wise, how many people were in that place?

• 3:09Fortune Feimster?

  It would, that was about, was it 1,800?

• 3:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, nevermind.

• 3:13Fortune Feimster?

  1,900? Yeah, you've done.

• 3:14Tig Notaro?

  Oh, nevermind. I've done way better.

• 3:16Fortune Feimster?

  Unless it's maybe 2,000? I don't know.

• 3:19Mae Martin?

  I, I've been telling everyone it was 5,000.

• 3:22Tig Notaro?

  I think that was 3,000.

• 3:23Mae Martin?

  Oh, okay. I take it all back.

• 3:25Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, we had 3,000.

• 3:26Speaker 04

  1,800.

• 3:27Mae Martin?

  1,800, okay.

• 3:28Tig Notaro?

  That was just a baby.

• 3:30Mae Martin?

  But it never fails.

• 3:31Fortune Feimster?

  It felt big.

• 3:31Mae Martin?

  It felt big. And I'm always like, you guys are cool as cucumbers. You're like, to go out with nothing and just chat, I'm, I'm in awe. I became like a clown. I was doing like physical comedy that I've never done.

• 3:44Tig Notaro?

  I didn't even pick up on it. What were you doing?

• 3:46Fortune Feimster?

  Remember I did the worm on the carpet?

• 3:48Mae Martin?

  I did a magic mic dance. I was, I was manic.

• 3:51Tig Notaro?

  I feel like you.

• 3:52Fortune Feimster?

  And then half the carpet got on Mae's shirt.

• 3:54Tig Notaro?

  Yes, yes, yes. I honestly feel like I would feel the same if we were walking out in front of a stadium.

• 4:01Mae Martin?

  Oh, fully.

• 4:02Tig Notaro?

  I don't think it would.

• 4:03Mae Martin?

  It wouldn't affect your.

• 4:04Tig Notaro?

  I don't think so.

• 4:05Mae Martin?

  Your level.

• 4:06Tig Notaro?

  I really don't. And I don't, and you know, a lot of people like to say that it means that you don't care. And that's not, that's not true at all.

• 4:14Mae Martin?

  No, you're like, I'm home.

• 4:16Tig Notaro?

  I just, I, I have faith. I, I, I've, I know that I've lived through everything so far in my life.

• 4:25Mae Martin?

  Like, what's the worst that could happen?

• 4:26Tig Notaro?

  And it's like, even when things go terribly wrong in comedy, it usually creates the greatest comedy in the world.

• 4:33Mae Martin?

  It's pretty delightful when something.

• 4:35Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 4:36Fortune Feimster?

  Why don't the three of us always find things to talk about somehow?

• 4:40Mae Martin?

  I know. It always goes off in some direction.

• 4:43Fortune Feimster?

  A direction we could never anticipate it going.

• 4:45Tig Notaro?

  Well, it was so nice also having our guests really reiterate, like, well, first of all, they were really great guests.

• 4:52Fortune Feimster?

  They were. Small Ackerman and Brittany Snow from The Honey Wives.

• 4:55Tig Notaro?

  And, and then they were also pointing out, like, gosh, you guys are just so perfectly different.

• 5:01Mae Martin?

  Mm-hmm.

• 5:02Tig Notaro?

  You know, and just bring such a different vibe and energy to the show.

• 5:07Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 5:07Tig Notaro?

  And, and I think I just have faith.

• 5:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 5:11Tig Notaro?

  That we'll bring it.

• 5:13Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. It was fun. We talked to them for a long time.

• 5:16Mae Martin?

  They were.

• 5:17Fortune Feimster?

  They were delightful and funny and so cool.

• 5:20Tig Notaro?

  They were so up for it.

• 5:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 5:23Fortune Feimster?

  They were silly. They were handsome outfits.

• 5:25Mae Martin?

  They were both wearing suits.

• 5:26Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my gosh, they both showed up in suits.

• 5:28Mae Martin?

  They looked stunning.

• 5:30Fortune Feimster?

  And then I thought, oh, that does make sense because, you know, our picture is us in suits.

• 5:35Tig Notaro?

  And then I showed up and Fortune pointed out a few times that I dialed it in.

• 5:41Fortune Feimster?

  You were in your most casual outfit.

• 5:43Mae Martin?

  It was the most casual I've ever seen you.

• 5:45Fortune Feimster?

  That probably was your most casual outfit.

• 5:47Tig Notaro?

  I'm a pretty casual person.

• 5:48Fortune Feimster?

  That was pretty casual.

• 5:49Mae Martin?

  Like, these shoes are super smart.

• 5:51Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, those, see, the, yeah, these are.

• 5:53Mae Martin?

  Where were these?

• 5:54Tig Notaro?

  Okay, well, I, I had a date today. But, um, yeah, anyway, I'll, I'll wear a suit or a dress next time.

• 6:03Fortune Feimster?

  A dress, please.

• 6:04Tig Notaro?

  Oh, we should do a dress night.

• 6:06Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God.

• 6:08Tig Notaro?

  And have Katie Lang on, who started in that kind of, remember Katie's early days of wearing dresses?

• 6:15Mae Martin?

  Would she wear dresses?

• 6:16Tig Notaro?

  Yes.

• 6:17Mae Martin?

  I've only ever seen her post-dress phase, like-

• 6:20Tig Notaro?

  Oh, no, she used to, it was such a obvious rebellion, I assumed, um, to her, um, look and vibe. So she'd wear like cute little dresses, like cowboy dresses and western dresses.

• 6:35Fortune Feimster?

  When was the last time dresses?

• 6:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah, when was the last time you wore-

• 6:38Fortune Feimster?

  That would be wild.

• 6:39Mae Martin?

  I don't know if I could speak, like-

• 6:41Fortune Feimster?

  Would you do it in a, maybe not a live show, but like here?

• 6:44Mae Martin?

  I mean, for a loft, I'd do it, but I'd be, I don't-

• 6:47Tig Notaro?

  For a what?

• 6:48Mae Martin?

  A loft. A loft, a laugh.

• 6:50Tig Notaro?

  Is that a, are you joking?

• 6:51Mae Martin?

  I said that weird on purpose.

• 6:52Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay, I wasn't sure if-

• 6:54Mae Martin?

  I think that's an Alana Johnston-ism for a loft, but I, I don't know if I could, I think I'd, I'd enjoy it and then like after five minutes I'd go, okay, yeah.

• 7:04Fortune Feimster?

  Changed.

• 7:05Mae Martin?

  But do you remember that photo shoot-

• 7:06Tig Notaro?

  Rip it off, we could rip it off.

• 7:08Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, rebel against it.

• 7:10Mae Martin?

  Do you remember, you probably won't specifically remember this the way I do, but that when Brad Pitt did a photo shoot in a dress when Fight Club came out, it was the hottest, it was like this little dress and yeah.

• 7:20Fortune Feimster?

  I don't remember that.

• 7:21Mae Martin?

  So maybe I could do it like that.

• 7:22Fortune Feimster?

  Absolutely.

• 7:23Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 7:23Fortune Feimster?

  You can do whatever you want.

• 7:24Mae Martin?

  When was the last time you guys threw on a gown?

• 7:27Tig Notaro?

  Uh, the last time I wore a dress was when I played, uh, Joan Jett's mother in The Runaways.

• 7:32Mae Martin?

  Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 7:34Tig Notaro?

  And I told you the-

• 7:36Mae Martin?

  You got cut?

• 7:37Tig Notaro?

  Well, yeah, I got cut, but more incredibly, when I was, when they knocked on my trailer to bring me to set and I showed up at the door in my trailer, the woman that was taking me in the van, she goes, "Pfft."

• 7:49Mae Martin?

  No, she laughed?

• 7:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and I go, "Oh," and she's like, "Sorry, I'm just really familiar with you, so this is a lot to process." Cause I had a wig on too.

• 7:59Mae Martin?

  Wow.

• 8:00Tig Notaro?

  And a dress, maybe I'll dig up that picture. I have a picture of me with Kristen Stewart and Joan Jett.

• 8:05Mae Martin?

  Oh, you gotta get that pic out.

• 8:07Fortune Feimster?

  I would love to see that.

• 8:09Tig Notaro?

  You will not, and I have boobs at the time.

• 8:11Mae Martin?

  Whoa.

• 8:11Tig Notaro?

  Like it was actual tig boobs.

• 8:14Fortune Feimster?

  Your tiggle biddies.

• 8:15Tig Notaro?

  Tiggy tits.

• 8:16Fortune Feimster?

  Tiggy tits.

• 8:18Mae Martin?

  What about you?

• 8:19Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, well, you know, I do my character Brenda where I'm in a one-piece bathing suit. That doesn't count, but it's very girly.

• 8:25Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:26Fortune Feimster?

  Um, but when I'm in character, it feels very natural.

• 8:30Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 8:31Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, but a dress itself might have been-

• 8:36Fortune Feimster?

  Uh.

• 8:37Mae Martin?

  I'm picturing it and I like it.

• 8:38Fortune Feimster?

  I filmed something in Austin, I want to say two thousand sixteen.

• 8:45Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm.

• 8:46Fortune Feimster?

  And they had me wear a long dress and big dangly earrings.

• 8:49Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my god.

• 8:50Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, wait, no, I take that back in food bar. They made me wear, uh, I think they made me wear something girly.

• 8:55Mae Martin?

  Oh, my god.

• 8:56Tig Notaro?

  Something girly or a dress?

• 8:57Fortune Feimster?

  It's always, uh, well, now that I think about it, it was a girly pantsuit. It wasn't a dress, but.

• 9:02Tig Notaro?

  Not the same.

• 9:04Fortune Feimster?

  I know, it's not. But I, if I do any dress, it's usually a character type thing. Last time I wore a dress for real, uh, was when I was a journalist and I covered the Oscars.

• 9:17Mae Martin?

  And you wore a gown?

• 9:18Fortune Feimster?

  I wore, oh, yeah, no, I had, my gams were showing. I have a picture of that.

• 9:22Tig Notaro?

  Fortune, Marie, you get that?

• 9:24Fortune Feimster?

  I'll have them posted on socials.

• 9:25Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my god.

• 9:27Fortune Feimster?

  My gams were gamin'.

• 9:29Tig Notaro?

  And did you know you were, uh, a homosexual?

• 9:32Fortune Feimster?

  I did. I had, but I was all, I was only out at that point, maybe.

• 9:36Tig Notaro?

  To your dress?

• 9:37Fortune Feimster?

  Like a year or two.

• 9:38Tig Notaro?

  Mm hmm, yeah.

• 9:39Fortune Feimster?

  I look cute.

• 9:41Mae Martin?

  I think I wore one as a character in my teens. Like, that was the last time for real. And then in, in Feel Good, my character had to put one on. Had to. I wrote it, but I hate, I was so stressed. And then the director, I, I found out luckily in time that she was gonna have the whole crew wear dresses to make me feel more comfortable. And I was like, that is gonna make it way worse. I was, I, I nipped that in the bud.

• 10:04Fortune Feimster?

  You just, cause you just wanted it to just be like a non thing.

• 10:06Mae Martin?

  Yes, but I was freaking out about it. Yeah.

• 10:09Tig Notaro?

  Speaking of nipping things in the bud.

• 10:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:12Tig Notaro?

  I, years ago, thought it was nipping it in the butt, like if a dog bit.

• 10:17Fortune Feimster?

  I could totally see that, though, as the.

• 10:20Mae Martin?

  That makes more sense.

• 10:21Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 10:22Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, nip it in the butt.

• 10:23Mae Martin?

  Did you know, because Moll and Ackerman? Uh, grew up in Toronto.

• 10:27Fortune Feimster?

  Uh huh.

• 10:27Mae Martin?

  And so then I posted the pictures from the live show and then my friend messaged me and went, uh, she went to North Toronto High School. That's where I went.

• 10:35Fortune Feimster?

  No.

• 10:35Mae Martin?

  I went for six months to North Toronto High School.

• 10:37Fortune Feimster?

  I didn't even get to talk about that.

• 10:39Mae Martin?

  We were.

• 10:39Tig Notaro?

  Are you the same age?

• 10:40Mae Martin?

  No, she's, she was older, but she was in my friend's sister's year.

• 10:44Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 10:44Mae Martin?

  Which is wild, so.

• 10:46Fortune Feimster?

  We're the same, Malins are maybe around my age.

• 10:48Tig Notaro?

  Hmm.

• 10:49Fortune Feimster?

  I think.

• 10:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 10:50Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 10:50Mae Martin?

  I got, I wanted to have little, I kept trying to have little side combos and forgetting.

• 10:54Fortune Feimster?

  I know. I was noticing that. Especially once you found out Malin was from Toronto, you were like, really?

• 11:01Mae Martin?

  I, really, yeah.

• 11:04Tig Notaro?

  It's getting lost in our eyes.

• 11:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:06Fortune Feimster?

  That, we had a, a number of their Hunting Wives fans came to the show, which they were rabid fans of those gals. We showed up to the show and there was like eight girls outside and I was like, man, people are real excited for this show. This was like a side gate or something.

• 11:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah, like twenty.

• 11:23Tig Notaro?

  By the alley.

• 11:24Fortune Feimster?

  By the alley and.

• 11:25Tig Notaro?

  Where real fans hang out.

• 11:26Fortune Feimster?

  The same time and they couldn't, could not have cared less about May and I.

• 11:33Tig Notaro?

  Excuse me, could you get out of the way?

• 11:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:35Fortune Feimster?

  And then I was like, oh, they're here for them, okay.

• 11:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:39Fortune Feimster?

  So it was very funny.

• 11:41Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah. Really puts you in your place.

• 11:44Mae Martin?

  It really does, yeah.

• 11:45Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, that was fun.

• 11:47Mae Martin?

  I loved it.

• 11:47Tig Notaro?

  Meanwhile, then when I arrived.

• 11:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Tig Notaro?

  All eight of those girls went nuts.

• 11:52Mae Martin?

  Screaming, pouting, like the Beatles and come.

• 11:55Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 11:56Mae Martin?

  Have you ever fainted from excitement?

• 11:58Fortune Feimster?

  Hmm. Oh, uh, I don't know that this would be excitement, but I did faint in the middle of a gay bar in Paris.

• 12:05Tig Notaro?

  That sounds like excitement.

• 12:07Fortune Feimster?

  I was like, uh, I was living in Spain at the time, went to go visit my friend Brian in Paris. He took me to a gay bar, but it was like, um, in a, kind of in a basement and it was really hot and it was packed. And it was like, uh, they had like a Mr. Paris, um, competition, so it was dudes in speedos and stuff.

• 12:29Tig Notaro?

  Hello.

• 12:29Fortune Feimster?

  Which I don't, I don't mind a guy in a speedo, like.

• 12:32Tig Notaro?

  I don't mind a guy out of a speedo.

• 12:34Fortune Feimster?

  Right, they're beautiful, there's some beautiful guys out there. I love it. And we're just like watching the, watching the competition. And next thing I know, I'm like on the ground.

• 12:44Mae Martin?

  Oh my god.

• 12:45Fortune Feimster?

  And he said that my knees buckled. And that I just passed out.

• 12:50Mae Martin?

  Not heard this story.

• 12:51Fortune Feimster?

  I don't know, I hadn't thought about it in forever. But I guess it was so packed that like my fall was like kind of gently like.

• 12:59Mae Martin?

  By these greased up men.

• 13:01Fortune Feimster?

  All these gauges just kind of broke my fall. And then I came to and my friends laugh, laughing hysterically. And I realized what happened and he, he got me up really quick. And we run out of the bar and just are crying laughing, walking out of this bar. And we went and got a crepe after, so.

• 13:22Mae Martin?

  I mean, yeah, you fainted from all these speedos.

• 13:25Fortune Feimster?

  I guess I was so excited about these speedos. It was like, yeah, like a Paris Magic Mike situation.

• 13:31Mae Martin?

  I feel like people used to faint, like Beatlemania, like that it used to be more of a thing. I want to do it on the pod at some point in this episode, I'm gonna.

• 13:38Fortune Feimster?

  Well, I bet that was the case because back then they just weren't exposed to much.

• 13:43Mae Martin?

  Do you, yeah.

• 13:44Fortune Feimster?

  You know, excitement.

• 13:45Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 13:45Fortune Feimster?

  So your, but their bodies may have just been in such shock that even like scary movies and stuff.

• 13:51Mae Martin?

  The Exorcist, people were puking and freaking out and.

• 13:53Fortune Feimster?

  But we're so desensitized now.

• 13:55Mae Martin?

  Or like when Elvis moved his hips for the first time, everybody just fainted.

• 13:59Tig Notaro?

  Not to bring up, um, what's his name? The movie I saw recently, Forrest Gump.

• 14:05Mae Martin?

  Oh, oh, yeah.

• 14:06Tig Notaro?

  That's how Elvis learned how to dance.

• 14:08Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 14:09Tig Notaro?

  Was from Forrest Gump.

• 14:10Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:11Tig Notaro?

  Do you remember that?

• 14:12Mae Martin?

  I forgot.

• 14:13Tig Notaro?

  Worst movie I saw.

• 14:14Mae Martin?

  You've just seen it for the first time, but yeah, I forgot.

• 14:16Tig Notaro?

  So this is my only reference point now.

• 14:19Mae Martin?

  That made an impact.

• 14:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:26Tig Notaro?

  I have some, um, really interesting news.

• 14:28Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, great.

• 14:29Tig Notaro?

  Got rid of Instagram.

• 14:31Fortune Feimster?

  You did?

• 14:32Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 14:32Fortune Feimster?

  What ma, what made that, uh, happen?

• 14:35Tig Notaro?

  Well, I, I went to this, well, just to back up. I was, believe it or not, I have never. The Met.

• 14:47Fortune Feimster?

  The Met Gala?

• 14:48Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, has never been on my radar.

• 14:50Fortune Feimster?

  Okay.

• 14:51Tig Notaro?

  I'm not familiar.

• 14:53Fortune Feimster?

  I assumed as much.

• 14:54Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 14:55Mae Martin?

  But you didn't, did you know it existed or you hadn't really?

• 14:58Tig Notaro?

  It sounds familiar, but it's just, it's something that it's just like, I, but there's so much political.

• 15:06Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, with the Amazon.

• 15:07Tig Notaro?

  Rumblings around this one.

• 15:09Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Tig Notaro?

  So there's so much that I was seeing and I, and I became very familiar with the Met.

• 15:17Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 15:18Tig Notaro?

  Uh, situation.

• 15:19Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 15:20Tig Notaro?

  And the politi, like I was like, what is this event? What is, what is the meaning of it? What is the, what is the, the politics going on? Then I'm looking at people and I'm like, oh, well, why is this person? And then I started to feel like.

• 15:34Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, like sucked you in.

• 15:35Tig Notaro?

  Well, yeah, I was like, why am I even looking at this?

• 15:38Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 15:39Tig Notaro?

  Do you know what? This is not something that is my genuine interest.

• 15:43Fortune Feimster?

  And you didn't seek it out.

• 15:44Tig Notaro?

  Did not seek it out.

• 15:45Fortune Feimster?

  It was served up.

• 15:46Tig Notaro?

  It was served up to me and I, and I, I felt like a tool.

• 15:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah, because now you're having a physiological response of like, ugh.

• 15:52Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and I'm like, and I'm, I'm like having these conflicted ideas about these people and this, like, uh, you know, and that's not to take away from any sort of, um, politics around it or any point of view somebody might have, all for it.

• 16:09Fortune Feimster?

  Sure.

• 16:09Tig Notaro?

  All for the discussion.

• 16:10Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 16:11Tig Notaro?

  But I didn't like, what a tool I felt like.

• 16:15Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 16:16Tig Notaro?

  Because I walked right into what Instagram was wanting from me.

• 16:21Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, God, yeah.

• 16:22Tig Notaro?

  So that happened.

• 16:23Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 16:23Tig Notaro?

  Then I went to this festival where I was talking about the documentary.

• 16:28Fortune Feimster?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:29Tig Notaro?

  And before that happened, I was talking to a very well-known news correspondent person.

• 16:38Fortune Feimster?

  Okay.

• 16:39Tig Notaro?

  Who shared with me how deeply, deeply into social media her child was.

• 16:48Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, God. I think that's a big thing.

• 16:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah, they're starting to make laws.

• 16:52Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 16:52Mae Martin?

  Not in America, but elsewhere, they're making laws about ages and stuff.

• 16:56Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 16:56Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 16:57Tig Notaro?

  And there was something in our conversation and something in the look in her eyes. That I really felt so, um, like.

• 17:08Tig Notaro?

  Ugh.

• 17:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:09Fortune Feimster?

  Uh huh.

• 17:10Tig Notaro?

  And I left there and I just went goodbye. And, um, and it started this chain reaction of thinking about relationships that I only have on social media.

• 17:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:25Tig Notaro?

  How much I've enjoyed looking at cute animals.

• 17:28Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 17:28Tig Notaro?

  But what's even better.

• 17:29Fortune Feimster?

  That is fun.

• 17:30Tig Notaro?

  Than going to a animal rescue.

• 17:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:32Fortune Feimster?

  True.

• 17:33Tig Notaro?

  You know?

• 17:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:34Tig Notaro?

  And so it started me on this whole spiral. And as I said to Stephanie, I go, maybe I'll be back on and I'll be promoting myself like crazy in a couple of days.

• 17:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 17:45Tig Notaro?

  But right now, I really am interested in what this is awakening.

• 17:51Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 17:52Tig Notaro?

  Um, but it started from the, the gala.

• 17:57Mae Martin?

  This is very.

• 17:58Tig Notaro?

  Gala.

• 17:58Mae Martin?

  Cool.

• 17:59Tig Notaro?

  What, what's, what is that connecting with for you?

• 18:01Mae Martin?

  Uh, just the.

• 18:02Tig Notaro?

  Also, if I can say.

• 18:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah, please.

• 18:04Tig Notaro?

  I was on a panel talking about the documentary.

• 18:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:07Tig Notaro?

  Which is, look, I had my own wake up in 2012.

• 18:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:11Tig Notaro?

  And you hope those things stay with you.

• 18:14Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Tig Notaro?

  And then here I am working on a film. Around somebody who's having an awakening.

• 18:18Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:19Tig Notaro?

  And then.

• 18:20Mae Martin?

  About being present in the world.

• 18:21Tig Notaro?

  About being present. And then I'm like, on a press tour talking about it. And then I'm like, am I, have I really learned the lesson?

• 18:30Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:31Tig Notaro?

  You know? And so, and I'm not saying I have, haven't, that I have this figured out. It's just something I want to follow.

• 18:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:40Tig Notaro?

  And see how it feels.

• 18:41Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 18:41Tig Notaro?

  And I, I want to challenge myself.

• 18:44Mae Martin?

  Please challenge me to, I'm, I'm, what's connecting for me, what's coming for me is, I'm like, really in awe, cause I'm like, I want to be vegan. I want to go, I want to get rid of Instagram. I say these things all the time, like, I, my, my assistant for my birthday got me a brick that blocks your phone from all these things, cause, cause apparently I'm saying so much. God, I'm addicted, it's, my sleep's bad, it's so miserable. It's so dark on there and I know it's bad for me, but then.

• 19:12Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, what's a brick?

• 19:13Mae Martin?

  Oh, it's like a. I actually don't know, I haven't learned yet, but you put it on your phone and I think it disables it for a certain amount of time. Oh, okay.

• 19:22Speaker 04

  It's like a thing you you can put like on your fridge and it's like you almost like tap your phone with it. And then it will like disable your phone for a certain amount of time.

• 19:30Mae Martin?

  Oh, okay.

• 19:31Fortune Feimster?

  I did not know that was a thing.

• 19:33Mae Martin?

  Cause my

• 19:33Tig Notaro?

  I didn't either.

• 19:34Mae Martin?

  My problem is like I then I'm like, well, I'm in a shame spiral about it and then that's not doing me any good. So then I try to let go of the, you know, regret about it and just do it in moderation. Cause I do really, I I actually like staying in touch with people that I don't normally or like, and I and for work, it's so like being on tour and stuff, it's so, there is like a sense of community sometimes. But yeah, all those things you're saying, I deeply connected with and I I know I'm so addicted.

• 20:03Tig Notaro?

  And look, I might find I I get halfway down this road

• 20:08Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Tig Notaro?

  of exploring what this woke up in me.

• 20:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:11Tig Notaro?

  And be like, oh, this isn't manageable.

• 20:13Mae Martin?

  Or there's like a way to do it that's better.

• 20:15Fortune Feimster?

  Cause like you also need it for career stuff at times too, it's tough.

• 20:20Tig Notaro?

  But I was also thinking like, okay, I have projects and it's fun to announce them, but it's like, I also don't need to, you know what I mean?

• 20:31Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 20:31Tig Notaro?

  I it's it's not, I I was really trying to get in touch with, do I really need, like, if I need to share something with somebody?

• 20:41Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:42Fortune Feimster?

  You're gonna call them now?

• 20:42Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, but I mean, really, like, but also people will see me in the TV show or the movie or

• 20:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 20:49Tig Notaro?

  you know what I mean? And and I don't know. I don't know. It's just something I'm exploring.

• 20:54Fortune Feimster?

  It's a new journey.

• 20:55Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. I'm exploring it. I'm I'm interested in in this feeling.

• 21:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:01Tig Notaro?

  And um, and I've had certain signs that have bubbled up before this.

• 21:06Mae Martin?

  Hmm.

• 21:06Tig Notaro?

  Where um, it just something didn't feel right or congruent.

• 21:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:11Tig Notaro?

  And I just thought especially, it it hit me like a ton of bricks.

• 21:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:17Tig Notaro?

  And I uh, and then I just thought, I'm just gonna do it. I'll live through this too, you know?

• 21:22Mae Martin?

  Well, he both boasted, cause I

• 21:24Tig Notaro?

  I can't.

• 21:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 21:26Tig Notaro?

  No.

• 21:27Fortune Feimster?

  You were supposed to be a tag.

• 21:28Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, I'll let you know.

• 21:30Mae Martin?

  Because the thing about the Met Gala is super interesting because then, because I feel the same where I'm suddenly like, all these people I love and now I have like weird feelings about it. And if I kind of wish I didn't even see it.

• 21:41Tig Notaro?

  But it also leads into the thought of, sure, you can have conflicted ideas of these choices. But also, I'm not living a perfect life.

• 21:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:51Tig Notaro?

  Everything I'm doing is not lined up and congruent with my thoughts and feelings and political beliefs. And, and, and so that's part of

• 21:59Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:00Tig Notaro?

  the wake up of you want to do good.

• 22:04Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:05Tig Notaro?

  People are complicated. And where is the gray?

• 22:08Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:09Tig Notaro?

  And

• 22:10Mae Martin?

  Because you said before, or we've talked about like, it's, yeah, with social media, when, when that becomes the metric of how political someone is, but you don't know what they're doing in there. But it's like, oh, who, that person didn't post that thing or didn't share that thing.

• 22:27Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 22:27Mae Martin?

  And that doesn't actually reflect what they're

• 22:29Tig Notaro?

  You could be doing something

• 22:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Tig Notaro?

  boots on the ground.

• 22:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:33Tig Notaro?

  Donating cash and giving back in other ways.

• 22:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:37Tig Notaro?

  And that's just one way to get your voice out there is through social media. And of course, it's massive, but it also becomes a junkyard.

• 22:45Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:45Tig Notaro?

  Part of what the person I was talking to was saying, you don't remember what you've seen, what you've read.

• 22:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 22:53Tig Notaro?

  And that's

• 22:53Mae Martin?

  It's in your brain.

• 22:54Tig Notaro?

  And it translates to other parts of your life where you're not fully clocking because of your

• 23:00Mae Martin?

  Yeah. I mean, it is designed to be wildly addictive. Like it's so

• 23:06Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah. And especially to like, kids whose brains are not developed yet.

• 23:09Mae Martin?

  Oh, man, I know.

• 23:10Fortune Feimster?

  It's even more addictive. And what I've noticed with the young people, that they've, they said that it gives them a false sense of community.

• 23:18Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Fortune Feimster?

  So that they think they're connected.

• 23:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Fortune Feimster?

  But they're not hanging out with each other.

• 23:22Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 23:23Fortune Feimster?

  Outside of school. And so not, of course, every kid.

• 23:25Tig Notaro?

  Right, sometimes.

• 23:26Fortune Feimster?

  But there's a number of kids who think they're being in touch with their friends because they talk to them on these game headsets or on the social media.

• 23:35Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Fortune Feimster?

  They are having conversations, but it's all through tech.

• 23:39Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:40Fortune Feimster?

  But they are not hanging out in person.

• 23:42Tig Notaro?

  Well, and part of it is that you're not seeing an in-person facial response.

• 23:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:47Tig Notaro?

  That is connecting you, human to human.

• 23:50Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 23:51Tig Notaro?

  That I think is really interesting because you're seeing it just on a flat screen.

• 23:55Mae Martin?

  And you think you're staying where I I'm like, oh, that's part of how I stay informed because I do learn about world events on Instagram, but that's

• 24:03Tig Notaro?

  Sure.

• 24:04Mae Martin?

  But then how can I trust what I'm seeing? Like, I should be informed in other ways. I should be reading.

• 24:09Tig Notaro?

  Well, that's the other thing is how do you trust what's popping up?

• 24:12Fortune Feimster?

  I was about to say, that is, that's becoming harder and harder. There are so many articles popping up where I'm like, really? That happened?

• 24:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 24:20Fortune Feimster?

  And then I go to the comments and they're like, AI, AI, and I'm like, oh, my God, like.

• 24:25Tig Notaro?

  And is it really AI? Or is it people just saying, that's AI?

• 24:28Mae Martin?

  Exactly.

• 24:29Tig Notaro?

  And so it becomes so confusing. And I think I've said, like, part of this crack in me.

• 24:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 24:35Tig Notaro?

  Like, I think I've said on the podcast where I go to post something and I'm like, who am I talking to? Like, what am I doing?

• 24:41Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Tig Notaro?

  Like, what am I? I'm like, hi, look at me.

• 24:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 24:48Fortune Feimster?

  Sometimes you are real cute and funny on there.

• 24:50Tig Notaro?

  Uh, sometimes.

• 24:51Mae Martin?

  Yeah, you really are.

• 24:53Tig Notaro?

  But I'm also, it reminds me of like, one time when my first comedy special came out years ago. Friends of mine had had a party for me.

• 25:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 25:02Tig Notaro?

  And I was talking to my friend during the premiere of my special. And she shushed me. She goes, shh. And I was like, but I'm here right now. I filmed that months ago.

• 25:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 25:17Tig Notaro?

  Anyway.

• 25:18Mae Martin?

  I like it because it makes, even having the conversation, I think it's good because it makes you be honest with yourself about like, yeah, what am I actually getting from it? Like, when I go to look at people's pages, am I looking at my best friend's pages? Or am I looking at someone I had an argument with a year ago because I'm curious what they're up to in a kind of high school way? You know what I mean? Like, it's

• 25:37Tig Notaro?

  For sure.

• 25:38Mae Martin?

  It feeds a weird part of you because it's designed to do that. Yeah.

• 25:41Tig Notaro?

  And and again, I might be back full throttle, like no one's ever seen me tomorrow.

• 25:47Mae Martin?

  Posting TikToks.

• 25:48Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. The time this comes out.

• 25:50Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, might be. But I'm just, I'm curious about this road.

• 25:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's cool.

• 25:55Fortune Feimster?

  You're going with your, how you're feeling right now. So.

• 25:57Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 25:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 25:59Tig Notaro?

  Anyway, I thought I would share that.

• 26:00Fortune Feimster?

  I'm, that's an interesting turn of events.

• 26:03Mae Martin?

  I think I just, my first step is going to be to. I just don't need to, I, I wish phones had a thing that would detect when you're scrolling.

• 26:11Fortune Feimster?

  I think they do have a thing on there where you can limit your, um, in the settings where you can limit your usage.

• 26:17Mae Martin?

  Oh, okay.

• 26:19Fortune Feimster?

  And, and it informs you, like you, you set how much you wanna see that in a day. And when you've reached that limit, it tells you.

• 26:28Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 26:28Fortune Feimster?

  Now whether or not, th- then that's up to you to then be like, okay, I reached my limit, phone's down.

• 26:34Mae Martin?

  Hmm.

• 26:34Fortune Feimster?

  But it does at least make you aware.

• 26:37Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 26:38Fortune Feimster?

  So you could look into that, it's in the settings.

• 26:40Tig Notaro?

  Maybe we could have Wellness Weekend.

• 26:41Mae Martin?

  Yes, this is it.

• 26:43Fortune Feimster?

  You're talking about Wellness Weekend.

• 26:45Mae Martin?

  I'm so gung ho, I'm like naming the day and, cause yeah, put our phones away.

• 26:48Tig Notaro?

  Are you really?

• 26:49Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 26:50Tig Notaro?

  Like for how many days would you have a Wellness Weekend? As long as a weekend?

• 26:54Fortune Feimster?

  A weekend is what, two days?

• 26:56Tig Notaro?

  Is it a long weekend?

• 26:57Mae Martin?

  Friday night till Sunday evening.

• 26:59Tig Notaro?

  Oh, okay.

• 26:59Mae Martin?

  I'll do that.

• 27:00Fortune Feimster?

  Sunday evening?

• 27:01Mae Martin?

  I'm free all of August.

• 27:02Tig Notaro?

  And Fortune, where are you on the interest line?

• 27:06Mae Martin?

  Cause we'll put our phones away.

• 27:07Fortune Feimster?

  I mean, I'll try my best to.

• 27:08Tig Notaro?

  But wo- wo- would you actually show up to Wellness Weekend?

• 27:11Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, if you guys were serious about it and it was a plan.

• 27:15Mae Martin?

  What if we promised that we'll do content for the pod there and we'll?

• 27:20Fortune Feimster?

  Because it gets productivity.

• 27:21Tig Notaro?

  I'll post it on my new account.

• 27:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah, your secret account.

• 27:25Fortune Feimster?

  I mean, I, the only, the only thing I would w- w- want is to maybe, like, you're vegan.

• 27:32Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 27:33Fortune Feimster?

  But I would probably want cheese.

• 27:36Fortune Feimster?

  Like a shark, I don't need, I don't need the meat part of a charcuterie board, just a cheese plate. As long as you're, as long as you're okay.

• 27:44Tig Notaro?

  Can I get a wheel of cheese?

• 27:45Fortune Feimster?

  As long as you're okay with me eating a brick of cheese.

• 27:47Tig Notaro?

  And would you be open to trying to meditate and journal and watch the sun come up?

• 27:52Fortune Feimster?

  Journaling, hmm.

• 27:54Tig Notaro?

  And share your feelings?

• 27:55Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I would share feelings.

• 27:56Tig Notaro?

  Don't touch me.

• 27:57Fortune Feimster?

  Stop. I wish your feelings easy.

• 28:00Tig Notaro?

  Okay.

• 28:00Fortune Feimster?

  I have no problem sharing feelings.

• 28:02Tig Notaro?

  Great.

• 28:02Mae Martin?

  And what if I?

• 28:04Fortune Feimster?

  I just don't love pen to paper.

• 28:05Mae Martin?

  Oh, you don't?

• 28:06Fortune Feimster?

  My hand gets tired.

• 28:07Tig Notaro?

  But guys, do you know what's oddly the most fun thought to me?

• 28:11Mae Martin?

  What?

• 28:12Tig Notaro?

  Is really waking up to watch the sunrise.

• 28:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want that. Okay.

• 28:18Tig Notaro?

  Fortune's stunned.

• 28:19Fortune Feimster?

  No, we'd stay in our sweatpants. Honestly, lately, I've been waking up much earlier, so that is not too far off.

• 28:24Tig Notaro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:25Mae Martin?

  What if you catch us at?

• 28:27Tig Notaro?

  Sneaking out.

• 28:28Mae Martin?

  We wake up and I sneak out.

• 28:30Fortune Feimster?

  Going to the coffee shop.

• 28:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 28:32Fortune Feimster?

  I'm still like, oh, can I still drink coffee?

• 28:34Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. On decaf.

• 28:35Mae Martin?

  What about a sneaky cigarette?

• 28:37Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, no. A cigarette? You can have a cigarette on Wellness Weekend. I know that.

• 28:41Tig Notaro?

  This is terribly, terribly gone. It's gone sideways already.

• 28:46Fortune Feimster?

  I would eat a salad.

• 28:49Tig Notaro?

  Fortune's gonna come and journal and eat a salad.

• 28:52Fortune Feimster?

  And a smoothie, as long as there's not berries in it.

• 28:54Mae Martin?

  Well, we could do baked potatoes. We could barbecue.

• 28:57Fortune Feimster?

  Wait, these baked potatoes?

• 28:58Tig Notaro?

  Absolutely. May I promise. We can barbecue a baked potato.

• 29:02Mae Martin?

  Love it.

• 29:03Tig Notaro?

  No problem.

• 29:04Fortune Feimster?

  But I would want sour cream on it. I know that's not vegan.

• 29:08Tig Notaro?

  Listen.

• 29:08Mae Martin?

  It would be a real gesture of like, because I know we're also busy, so.

• 29:13Tig Notaro?

  Here, here's the other thing. We could each orchestrate our Wellness Weekends.

• 29:19Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 29:20Tig Notaro?

  No, our different Wellness, like.

• 29:21Fortune Feimster?

  What we want and then like decide as a group what it will entail.

• 29:25Tig Notaro?

  No, we could have three different Wellness Weekends.

• 29:27Mae Martin?

  For now, it's nine days. Oh, my God.

• 29:30Tig Notaro?

  I have to eat sausages and cheese.

• 29:32Fortune Feimster?

  No, I would never make you go non-bean.

• 29:35Tig Notaro?

  And smoke a cigarette.

• 29:35Fortune Feimster?

  I would never make you go against your veganism.

• 29:38Tig Notaro?

  Um, I wouldn't.

• 29:39Fortune Feimster?

  Uh, I know you wouldn't, but yeah. I mean, listen.

• 29:42Mae Martin?

  I would make you guys do play ga- like maybe do an escape room or like.

• 29:46Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, you would?

• 29:46Tig Notaro?

  And you know I hate a game.

• 29:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 29:48Tig Notaro?

  But I would do it.

• 29:48Mae Martin?

  Yeah. Okay.

• 29:50Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, we would all like try something new.

• 29:52Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God.

• 29:53Fortune Feimster?

  For each other.

• 29:54Tig Notaro?

  This kind of thing is what gets me going.

• 29:57Mae Martin?

  Me too, because I like an agenda. I like.

• 29:59Tig Notaro?

  Here's the other thing that I just want to say really fast that I was talking to Stephanie about today as far as like. Social media, taking on things, taking in things that you're not wanting.

• 30:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 30:11Tig Notaro?

  And seeking yourself. And then I was realizing also in the bigger picture of life, that I'm trying to cram and wedge in places I actually find real joy in life.

• 30:22Mae Martin?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:22Tig Notaro?

  Around the stuff that isn't bringing me joy.

• 30:26Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 30:26Tig Notaro?

  And so if you, my plan right now is to clear out the complications that are not bringing me joy.

• 30:36Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 30:36Tig Notaro?

  So that the priority, and I know this is, it's like a dream world.

• 30:40Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 30:40Tig Notaro?

  But for whatever I have control over, to make conscious decisions of, I do wanna, like our son goes and takes an art class in Koreatown on the weekends. And whenever I go, he has so much joy. And I was like, man, I would love to take an art class here, too.

• 30:57Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 30:57Tig Notaro?

  You know, not because I'm an artist.

• 30:59Mae Martin?

  I'm definitely craving routine like that, like, um, yeah, like, like a weekly dinner with the same five people, you know, or bi-weekly or whatever. Yeah.

• 31:09Fortune Feimster?

  You're kind of creating like community for yourself. Yeah.

• 31:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:13Fortune Feimster?

  I've been thinking about that.

• 31:13Tig Notaro?

  Consciously.

• 31:14Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I had lunch with two of my oldest friends from LA, uh, in that we've been friends for 20 years.

• 31:21Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 31:22Fortune Feimster?

  And I'm like, I want more of this, you know, like.

• 31:24Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 31:25Fortune Feimster?

  We just sat there for like, almost two hours.

• 31:27Tig Notaro?

  And don't you feel like you're trying to cram the good into

• 31:31Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 31:31Tig Notaro?

  the, the stuff that doesn't feel as good as that?

• 31:34Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. And I'm just like, God, why don't we do this? Like, or we just sat there outside the

• 31:39Tig Notaro?

  That's amazing.

• 31:40Fortune Feimster?

  The restaurant and just chatted and, yeah, it was, it was great. And then I, made me realize like, God, I'm always traveling, always

• 31:47Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 31:48Fortune Feimster?

  working. I'm like, what is my community now? Because my life has changed so significantly in the last year. It's like, what does this look like going forward?

• 31:57Tig Notaro?

  And you have

• 31:58Fortune Feimster?

  I'm still building it.

• 31:59Tig Notaro?

  You, you have like a whole new, um, map to create.

• 32:03Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 32:04Tig Notaro?

  And, and house.

• 32:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 32:06Fortune Feimster?

  I don't, yeah, that too.

• 32:12Mae Martin?

  I feel like I'm still in the mindset of like saying yes to everything and but yeah, and I'm so grateful and lucky and that but then yeah, I am, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling it.

• 32:24Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you're seeking something and it's obvious because you've brought it up a lot on the podcast. Not too much.

• 32:30Mae Martin?

  Have I?

• 32:31Tig Notaro?

  No, I'm just saying you have brought it up.

• 32:33Fortune Feimster?

  Just that you're seeking.

• 32:34Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you're seeking.

• 32:35Mae Martin?

  And nature.

• 32:36Tig Notaro?

  And routine.

• 32:37Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 32:38Tig Notaro?

  You've mentioned that.

• 32:39Mae Martin?

  Have I?

• 32:39Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 32:40Mae Martin?

  This is what therapy is. It's people going, oh, you've said that before. And you go, oh, did I?

• 32:44Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 32:45Fortune Feimster?

  Well, it just means it's clearly in you as a desire.

• 32:49Tig Notaro?

  And that's where I'm going back and connecting these dots that I noticed where I was saying things like,

• 32:55Tig Notaro?

  I don't want to post, I like, I don't even know who I'm talking to.

• 33:00Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 33:01Tig Notaro?

  You know, I, it started to feel confusing.

• 33:03Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 33:04Tig Notaro?

  Anyway, it just was something that I wanted to share that I thought.

• 33:08Mae Martin?

  I love it.

• 33:09Tig Notaro?

  You might be interested in.

• 33:11Mae Martin?

  I love it.

• 33:11Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 33:12Mae Martin?

  Yeah, like I have this, it's so embarrassing that I know, no, it's not embarrassing. These things are designed to be addictive. We're, we're just little, little people flopping around.

• 33:23Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 33:23Mae Martin?

  But it like that I know the things that would make me feel like drinking more water, sleeping eight hours a night, not be on my phone as much. Like I, I know the things, but it's just so hard to enact them. But I found, I, when I lived with a child, I did, I, my lifestyle was a lot slower. Time moved slower. It was really nice. So I know that's something I want because it does force you to be present. Or even just living with a partner or like, yeah, I'm left to my own devices. I will, I'll watch a lot of Survivor. I'll watch a lot of reality TV.

• 33:57Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, I eat a lot of turkey corn dogs from the frozen food section.

• 34:01Mae Martin?

  Oh, my God, my fridge.

• 34:02Tig Notaro?

  That's what you do?

• 34:03Fortune Feimster?

  Currently, yeah.

• 34:04Mae Martin?

  Turkey corn dogs are good, though.

• 34:09Fortune Feimster?

  Now that I'm living alone.

• 34:10Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 34:11Fortune Feimster?

  You're just kind of like, I don't need a cook. Sit down meal. I'm just gonna grab a turkey corn dog and put it in the air fryer.

• 34:18Tig Notaro?

  I'm not great. I'm not great at a sit down meal.

• 34:20Fortune Feimster?

  Really?

• 34:21Tig Notaro?

  No, I'm eating on the fly.

• 34:22Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 34:23Tig Notaro?

  That's something I'd love to do differently.

• 34:25Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 34:26Fortune Feimster?

  Well, we have, uh, you know, things to think about, y'all.

• 34:29Mae Martin?

  Well, this is all gonna come up in Wellness Weekend. Like, we're gonna be journaling about our, our dreams and aspirations.

• 34:36Tig Notaro?

  I, I can't tell you how much I would really love to do it.

• 34:41Mae Martin?

  Well, I was thinking about getting that place in Arrowhead again. It's so beautiful.

• 34:44Tig Notaro?

  We can also use my office.

• 34:45Fortune Feimster?

  You couldn't wait to get out of that. You like got there and were already planning to go home and come back.

• 34:51Mae Martin?

  I had to come back for a week. I ordered a lot of stuff up there.

• 34:54Fortune Feimster?

  $500 of Amazon stuff.

• 34:56Mae Martin?

  That was really crazy.

• 34:57Tig Notaro?

  Which brings us back to the Met.

• 34:59Mae Martin?

  I know. Oh, my God.

• 35:01Fortune Feimster?

  Full circle on that one.

• 35:02Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 35:04Tig Notaro?

  Should we get to our guest?

• 35:05Fortune Feimster?

  We should.

• 35:07Tig Notaro?

  It's a good one.

• 35:08Fortune Feimster?

  It is.

• 35:09Mae Martin?

  Today's question is brought to you by AT&T.

• 35:12Tig Notaro?

  Today's question asker is a writer and journalist and the former First Lady of California. She anchored the NBC Nightly News and won a Peabody for her reporting. She won two Emmys for producing The Alzheimer's Project. Her award-winning digital publication is Maria Shriver's Sunday Paper. Maria Shriver is asking today's question.

• 35:36Mae Martin?

  Woo-hoo.

• 35:37Fortune Feimster?

  Nice.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  Hey, handsome. Hey, handsome. It's Maria Shriver. Hey, handsome. I like saying that. I actually say that to my boys. Hey, handsome. Anyway, okay. Hey, handsome. I digress. So, thank you for having me on. Thank you for asking me to think of a question for you. So, before I get to a question, because I have so many questions. I ask questions for a living. I ask questions of myself every day. So, like, for me to have one question for you, um, you know, it's kind of almost impossible. So, Lauren, who I work with, she gave me some of these question ideas. If you could interview someone, dead or alive, and then ask them one question, who would you interview and what would you ask them?

• 36:25Speaker 00

  Wow, that's really good. Who would I interview, dead or alive?

• 36:29Fortune Feimster?

  She looks great.

• 36:30Tig Notaro?

  She does. She looks good.

• 36:32Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, get her, Marianne. She's looking handsome.

• 36:34Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that's a charismatic person.

• 36:37Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. Wow, well, you can, you know, tell that she is a pro at asking questions, as she said.

• 36:44Tig Notaro?

  She's, she's the real deal.

• 36:45Mae Martin?

  Yeah, seriously.

• 36:47Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 36:48Tig Notaro?

  And I think she's also, you know where she stands on most things?

• 36:53Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 36:54Tig Notaro?

  I would say. But she's also a reasonable human being.

• 36:59Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 37:00Tig Notaro?

  Is what I find her to be.

• 37:01Mae Martin?

  Isn't the bar so low? That we're like, and she's a reasonable human being? Because you never know.

• 37:07Tig Notaro?

  I know.

• 37:08Mae Martin?

  A lot of people are not.

• 37:09Tig Notaro?

  But it's just, I really love a reasonable human being.

• 37:15Mae Martin?

  Like someone who, who's open to amending their ideas or just who's like...

• 37:19Fortune Feimster?

  Or at least hearing someone out.

• 37:20Mae Martin?

  Yeah, curious about people and yeah, that's cool.

• 37:23Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 37:23Fortune Feimster?

  Getting to the bottom of things.

• 37:25Mae Martin?

  It's a really, it's like a, a classic question almost, but I don't think we've had it, but it's such a...

• 37:30Tig Notaro?

  I know, I thought the same thing.

• 37:32Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 37:33Mae Martin?

  But it's very good.

• 37:34Fortune Feimster?

  If you could interview anyone, was it dead or alive? Who would you talk to?

• 37:39Tig Notaro?

  What, the band Dead or Alive? Is that who you would interview?

• 37:42Fortune Feimster?

  Won't it, won't it?

• 37:44Tig Notaro?

  No, that's not the band.

• 37:45Fortune Feimster?

  Dead or alive? That's by Jovi.

• 37:48Tig Notaro?

  I, oh, I know. And that was really good, the way you went up with Alive.

• 37:53Fortune Feimster?

  Thank you.

• 37:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah, that was great.

• 37:55Tig Notaro?

  Now, now Mays is trying to compete.

• 37:57Mae Martin?

  That was good. Well, what about this?

• 38:00Mae Martin?

  I think I know my answer.

• 38:02Fortune Feimster?

  Okay.

• 38:02Mae Martin?

  And I'm surprised by my answer because I, I'm such a like fan of pop culture and like idolize all these people. But I think I'm going with my paternal grandfather, who I never met, is my dad's dad. Because I feel like my parents are still kind of mysteries to me in a lot of ways. Like all of ours are, because you don't know what their childhood was like. And I've heard such great things about him and he was an actor and really funny and...

• 38:30Tig Notaro?

  Was he related to your grandmother, who's an agent?

• 38:32Mae Martin?

  He was her wife.

• 38:34Tig Notaro?

  He was her?

• 38:35Mae Martin?

  Uh, he's, no, wait.

• 38:37Tig Notaro?

  I can't do that now.

• 38:38Mae Martin?

  He was her husband, yeah.

• 38:39Fortune Feimster?

  He was her wife.

• 38:40Tig Notaro?

  I know we're really open and flexible here on sexuality and gender.

• 38:44Mae Martin?

  He was her husband, sorry.

• 38:47Mae Martin?

  Yeah, my dad's dad, yeah, so, yeah, the agent's husband and he, he was, he had these like big bushy eyebrows and he's

• 38:55Tig Notaro?

  Love it already.

• 38:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah, and he was like a character actor. He'd pop up, have like little parts and things like, and whenever I see him in something, there's like four clips that I have and he's, his comic timing is so good. He's like Peter Sellers-y, you know, like Alec Guinness, like that old school.

• 39:11Tig Notaro?

  What a shame if you had those eyebrows and had terrible delivery with your comedy.

• 39:16Mae Martin?

  I know.

• 39:16Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. What do you do? You go pluck them, I guess.

• 39:19Mae Martin?

  I guess you, yeah, you shave them off, yeah.

• 39:22Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Mae Martin?

  Yeah, so I think, I think him, because my mom, when she met my dad was, well, she was Canadian. She came over to England and she was really self-conscious, like all these kind of British people and they all went to good universities and were all kind of verbose and like, look, sort of looked down their noses at like the Commonwealth a little bit, or just like, you know, but apparently he was so kind and just like anyone who walked in the room, he'd make them feel really comfortable and

• 39:48Tig Notaro?

  Love it.

• 39:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah, and I, I want to know what my dad was like and just, yeah, chat to him. I know he was a very heavy drinker, so yeah, maybe with a Scotch and, yeah.

• 40:00Tig Notaro?

  Eyebrows was a heavy drinker?

• 40:02Mae Martin?

  Eyebrows was a very heavy drinker, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:06Tig Notaro?

  You'd have to be.

• 40:07Mae Martin?

  In those days

• 40:08Tig Notaro?

  You gotta, well, and also that's cartoon face.

• 40:11Mae Martin?

  And to carry, to carry those eyebrows.

• 40:13Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, you gotta sit down with a drink, you know?

• 40:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 40:17Tig Notaro?

  If they even, they might have made him drink, you know, that might have been what pushed him to drink.

• 40:23Mae Martin?

  The brows?

• 40:23Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, he might have been like, this is a lot.

• 40:26Fortune Feimster?

  Is there a cultural or historical person you would want to interview?

• 40:31Mae Martin?

  Napoleon, I have a lot of questions.

• 40:33Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah?

• 40:36Tig Notaro?

  I would love to see Mace sit down and question Napoleon.

• 40:40Mae Martin?

  Napoleon.

• 40:40Fortune Feimster?

  He speak, he would speak French, but y'all would have a translator maybe?

• 40:44Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he would never speak English. I mean, he hated the Brits so much, right?

• 40:50Fortune Feimster?

  Well, that would be a cool person for you to interview, a little translator.

• 40:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah, the visuals pretty We go.

• 40:57Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 40:58Mae Martin?

  Me and old Napoleon, but he didn't like when people showered. He loved stinky people.

• 41:01Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 41:02Mae Martin?

  So I'd have to.

• 41:03Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, don't shower.

• 41:04Mae Martin?

  That doesn't, it's not gonna fly with me.

• 41:06Tig Notaro?

  Cause you shower twice a day.

• 41:07Mae Martin?

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:07Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:08Tig Notaro?

  And wash my face. Kate McCucci.

• 41:09Mae Martin?

  Does she?

• 41:10Tig Notaro?

  She showers twice a day.

• 41:11Fortune Feimster?

  McCucci.

• 41:12Mae Martin?

  Squeaky clean McCucci.

• 41:13Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah. McCucci, McCucci is clean.

• 41:19Fortune Feimster?

  I did go to the coochie doctor this morning.

• 41:21Mae Martin?

  You did?

• 41:22Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, all is good there.

• 41:23Tig Notaro?

  You seemed in a way.

• 41:24Fortune Feimster?

  She said, she said my, my coochie was great.

• 41:28Tig Notaro?

  I went to the doctor today too.

• 41:30Mae Martin?

  You did?

• 41:30Tig Notaro?

  Not for.

• 41:31Fortune Feimster?

  For the coochie?

• 41:31Tig Notaro?

  No, no.

• 41:32Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, it wasn't something I was looking forward to, but it went, it went fine.

• 41:37Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, right.

• 41:38Fortune Feimster?

  And when she's, when she was down there and gave me a thumbs up.

• 41:41Tig Notaro?

  No, she didn't.

• 41:42Mae Martin?

  Oh, that would be amazing.

• 41:44Tig Notaro?

  High five though, right?

• 41:45Fortune Feimster?

  She was like, hey, it's looking good down here.

• 41:48Mae Martin?

  Oh.

• 41:48Fortune Feimster?

  But I was pretty happy that she was like feeling good about.

• 41:51Tig Notaro?

  Well, clean as a whistle.

• 41:53Fortune Feimster?

  Clean as a whistle.

• 41:54Mae Martin?

  Can I change my answer and say I'd interview your gynecologist?

• 41:57Tig Notaro?

  Oh, my God.

• 41:59Mae Martin?

  Now, who would you interview, Fortune?

• 42:01Fortune Feimster?

  Um, I, so on a per, I have personal and then historical.

• 42:06Tig Notaro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:06Fortune Feimster?

  I would want to interview my grandfather, um, because I never met him. He died unexpectedly when my mom was seventeen. Uh, and he was a very prominent, uh, contractor and, um, he built a lot of things around North Carolina, like schools and churches and houses that were really beautiful. And, uh, he built the house my grandmother lived in. And so I would just have a lot of questions because I don't know him or that.

• 42:31Mae Martin?

  And you'd fill in stuff about your mom and like, what do you know about his personality?

• 42:35Fortune Feimster?

  No, I don't know a lot about him.

• 42:37Tig Notaro?

  Anything about his eyebrows?

• 42:39Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, what are his brows? I don't know that either. I think he was very charismatic, very, uh, successful and he and my grandmother were very, uh, philanthropic and.

• 42:48Mae Martin?

  But then, didn't you say, now it's coming back to me that then, after he passed, then there was no money, but there was a nice house or something. There was like.

• 42:56Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, well, he left them a lot of money, but things happened over the years, you know?

• 43:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:02Tig Notaro?

  Shopping sprees?

• 43:03Fortune Feimster?

  Shopping sprees. And then I would be curious to. Interview my grandmother's mom because she was the treasurer of Rutherford County in North Carolina, which was very unusual for a woman in those times. Uh, she was a widow and she, when she was campaigning, she had put her kids, my grandmother being one of them, in a donkey cart and would go around handing out flower, flyers for her campaign. And the men around town were like pissed about it because they felt like she was trying to use her being a widow and her kids to make people feel sorry for her. But she kept, she kept getting reelected and kept the position for, you know, for a long time. Um, and I just thought that was so cool that

• 43:45Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Fortune Feimster?

  A woman in those days, because this is my grandmother's mother.

• 43:49Mae Martin?

  Whoa.

• 43:50Tig Notaro?

  So it's your great grandmother.

• 43:53Fortune Feimster?

  Yes.

• 43:55Fortune Feimster?

  But that was a long ass time ago.

• 43:57Tig Notaro?

  I know it is. You don't need to yell at me about it.

• 43:59Fortune Feimster?

  Didn't happen with women and I think that's so badass.

• 44:02Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:03Fortune Feimster?

  So I would have questions for her and to know more about my grandmother as a kid.

• 44:07Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:07Fortune Feimster?

  Um, and then historically, I mean, it would be kind of interesting to get to talk to Jesus.

• 44:13Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:13Fortune Feimster?

  Just because think of all the conflict that has surrounded the Bible.

• 44:19Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:19Fortune Feimster?

  Religion.

• 44:20Mae Martin?

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 44:21Fortune Feimster?

  I know this is news to you. But I would want to be like, what do you think about all this?

• 44:26Mae Martin?

  Yeah. And be like, what did you actually say? What were your direct words?

• 44:30Fortune Feimster?

  What did you mean by this?

• 44:31Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:31Fortune Feimster?

  What happened in this scenario?

• 44:33Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 44:34Fortune Feimster?

  What about, what in the Bible has been like misinterpreted? Or, or, you know, it was also like a game of telephone in the Bible.

• 44:42Mae Martin?

  Of course, it's 400 years after you died, right?

• 44:45Fortune Feimster?

  So I, I think that would be a pretty good interview. That would be a good get.

• 44:49Tig Notaro?

  Oh my God, if we could get Jesus.

• 44:51Mae Martin?

  Jesus.

• 44:52Tig Notaro?

  On Hands and Pop.

• 44:53Fortune Feimster?

  Jesus? We need to interview you because we have some questions.

• 44:57Tig Notaro?

  Have you seen that guy that looks like Jesus in Los Angeles and Hollywood?

• 45:01Fortune Feimster?

  He's, well, he's, he's dead now. He's been dead for a while.

• 45:05Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 45:05Mae Martin?

  Wait, but there's so many guys that look like Jesus.

• 45:08Fortune Feimster?

  No, there was a very prominent one for many, many years.

• 45:11Tig Notaro?

  He wore a robe, had long hair and a long beard.

• 45:13Fortune Feimster?

  His name was Kevin.

• 45:14Mae Martin?

  And what would he do? Just walk around?

• 45:16Tig Notaro?

  He wasn't crucified.

• 45:18Fortune Feimster?

  No, he wasn't actually Jesus, but he did die. This, and it was a couple of years ago.

• 45:23Tig Notaro?

  Oh, that's sad.

• 45:25Fortune Feimster?

  But he used to go to the Comedy Store a lot.

• 45:26Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, he was, he was just like a...

• 45:28Fortune Feimster?

  He was a cool guy.

• 45:29Tig Notaro?

  I assumed I hadn't seen him because I got married and had kids and never saw anyone again.

• 45:34Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 45:35Tig Notaro?

  Well, rest in peace, Kevin. Kevin's in heaven. My ex-girlfriend wrote a song called that.

• 45:40Fortune Feimster?

  Kevin's in heaven?

• 45:41Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 45:42Mae Martin?

  About someone she knew? No way.

• 45:44Tig Notaro?

  About her friend's friend named Kevin who passed away and she wrote Kevin's in heaven.

• 45:48Fortune Feimster?

  Aww.

• 45:49Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, so Kevin's in heaven.

• 45:50Fortune Feimster?

  Song that runs.

• 45:51Mae Martin?

  So far we got grandparents, Napoleon and Jesus. Napoleon actually is second only to Jesus in the amount of books that have been written about him because he's such a divisive and complex figure. Yeah.

• 46:04Fortune Feimster?

  Well, you'd have a lot of questions for them.

• 46:06Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 46:06Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 46:07Mae Martin?

  But I'd probably go blank and be like, how are you?

• 46:10Fortune Feimster?

  But I don't, do you think Jesus would want to be on camera or he would be like, this is off the record?

• 46:15Mae Martin?

  I think Jesus liked a bit of attention. I mean, he must, he was giving speeches and you know, like he was, he was out there. I think he would have been like, great, get the message.

• 46:23Fortune Feimster?

  I would want to ask him about gays.

• 46:25Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 46:25Fortune Feimster?

  I would be curious.

• 46:27Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 46:27Fortune Feimster?

  To see what his thoughts are. He, you know, he could be like, no thanks, or he could be like, love is love.

• 46:34Mae Martin?

  I feel like it'd be that, that was his whole message, right?

• 46:36Fortune Feimster?

  I mean, that's what I believe, yeah.

• 46:39Mae Martin?

  He was friends with...

• 46:40Fortune Feimster?

  He was all, he was friends with all the outliers.

• 46:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a rebel.

• 46:44Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm. So, I think that'd be a good get.

• 46:48Tig Notaro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:48Fortune Feimster?

  Uh-huh.

• 46:49Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 46:50Mae Martin?

  How about you?

• 46:51Fortune Feimster?

  Put him on the handsome pod for sure. Yeah, what, what you got?

• 46:54Tig Notaro?

  Well, I mean, my, my personal one.

• 46:56Fortune Feimster?

  Uh-huh.

• 46:56Tig Notaro?

  I, I mean, my mother. My, my mother, my mother died so unexpectedly and, and, um, I, uh, you know.

• 47:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah. You didn't have time to ask all those questions.

• 47:11Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. It's, it's that sad story of like, God, I thought, I thought, you know.

• 47:17Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 47:17Fortune Feimster?

  But how, how old was she when that happened?

• 47:19Tig Notaro?

  Sixty-five.

• 47:20Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, man, that's tough.

• 47:22Tig Notaro?

  Um, and so... Yeah, I have so, especially as I get older and now that I'm married and I'm a parent. Yeah. It like really came in big time for me. I'm sure, yeah. Really came in big time. Yeah. You know, I'd be curious to talk to my father, but my father is a little bit of a big talker. Right. And, um, and. Like he'd get, go, get off on one, like he'd start talking and you'd be like, okay, we don't have a lot of time for this interview. Um, no, no, like I think. Like up talking things? He, um, oh gosh. Like, do you think he'd be up? I had a character in my TV show, One Mississippi. Yeah. That was my father. Yeah. And in that, he was a part of the Mississippi mafia.

• 48:08Tig Notaro?

  Right. Which my father claimed to be. Right. Remember I told you he carried a pistol and a knife in his cowboy boots? Yes, Pasquale. Yeah, Pasquale, not a, um, but sometimes I wasn't quite sure where it was like. If that was true. He liked to, he liked to really, I think embellish, like, I think there were some real parts of his stories. Yeah, yeah. But I think there were also, he liked to seem kinda like he was involved in some stuff. Yeah. And he had some stuff going on. Right. And he can't talk about this, but I, I remember just sitting, he surprised me at a show, um, in Virginia and we went out. That's right.

• 48:47Tig Notaro?

  To IHOP, I told you, and, and he was telling me all these stories and, and you can, there's something there, but it was also a little like, um. A little, yeah. Yeah, just like, just kinda something where I'm like, okay, what, what is real and what are you embellishing to make a really great story? Yeah. So, but I think more so than anything, my mother. Yeah. Um, because of everything, marriage and children and family has brought up. Right. Um, and then, I mean, gosh, how great to sit down with Maria Shriver and just, uh, pick her brain. Yeah. About. You can do that. Right, right, I could do that. Yeah.

• 49:28Tig Notaro?

  But you know, actually, who, um, really pops up for me is, um, I am endlessly blown away.

• 49:37Tig Notaro?

  By the mind of Emily Saliers.

• 49:40Mae Martin?

  I just had lunch with her.

• 49:41Tig Notaro?

  I know, yeah.

• 49:41Mae Martin?

  That's so funny.

• 49:42Tig Notaro?

  Um, as a songwriter, what she does, I think is extraordinary.

• 49:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 49:50Tig Notaro?

  I think it is extraordinary. And I just would love to, I could never understand what she does or how she does it.

• 49:59Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:00Tig Notaro?

  Because it is that gift.

• 50:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:02Tig Notaro?

  But I'm truly in awe. I'm truly in awe.

• 50:05Mae Martin?

  I bet she'd feel the same about stand up. Like musicians are always saying that.

• 50:09Tig Notaro?

  She's like, well, how do you do what you do?

• 50:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:11Tig Notaro?

  I'm in awe of what you do.

• 50:13Mae Martin?

  Have a lunch where you guys talk to each other.

• 50:16Tig Notaro?

  I don't, I don't want to talk about me. I truly just want to be like Emily.

• 50:19Mae Martin?

  Ask her a bunch of questions. She would.

• 50:21Tig Notaro?

  I have, but she's like deflected.

• 50:23Mae Martin?

  She's very humble.

• 50:24Tig Notaro?

  Very humble and she's like.

• 50:25Mae Martin?

  Commit to like having to answer. Start tooting her horn a little bit. She's like, no.

• 50:30Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 50:31Mae Martin?

  Right.

• 50:31Tig Notaro?

  But, but like, I, I don't like, it's so, so many people you can write and, and look, I love a love song.

• 50:38Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:39Tig Notaro?

  But so much about the world

• 50:42Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:43Tig Notaro?

  and life and experiences, thoughts, feelings that, that aren't typical, obvious.

• 50:49Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:49Tig Notaro?

  Themes she'll write about.

• 50:52Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:52Tig Notaro?

  And make it rhyme.

• 50:55Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 50:55Tig Notaro?

  And make it catchy.

• 50:57Mae Martin?

  Uh huh.

• 50:58Tig Notaro?

  Yeah. And I'm just, um, I mean, obviously Amy Ray, the other part of the Indigo Girls brings the entire other half of this, but I'm just talking from like a, yeah, the poetic side.

• 51:11Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:12Tig Notaro?

  Of Emily.

• 51:14Mae Martin?

  Isn't it funny?

• 51:14Tig Notaro?

  Relentlessly blows my mind.

• 51:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah. It makes me laugh like what suckers we are for rhyming as human beings. Like you put a, put a sentiment, but make it rhyme. Then people are gonna tattooed. It's like, it just, it stays with you if it rhymes. It's like it burns it into you. Yeah.

• 51:29Tig Notaro?

  But also. Sometimes she doesn't rhyme.

• 51:32Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 51:34Tig Notaro?

  Whatever.

• 51:34Fortune Feimster?

  And we're like, no thanks.

• 51:35Mae Martin?

  I mean, Alanis Morissette is up there for me. Like, just because I'd want to ask her about spirituality and, yeah, songwriting and just what the, what her 90s was like. Yeah, yeah. That would be up there for me.

• 51:48Fortune Feimster?

  Well, I think we're gonna see Emily moving into even more writing because, you know, she shared.

• 51:54Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 51:55Fortune Feimster?

  She and Amy shared on social media.

• 51:57Tig Notaro?

  Right.

• 51:57Fortune Feimster?

  Emily's having some health complications that's affecting her voice.

• 52:01Tig Notaro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:02Fortune Feimster?

  And so they're figuring that out. But, yeah, I can see a world in which she really leans into writing even more.

• 52:08Tig Notaro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:09Fortune Feimster?

  Um, which will be cool to see what she comes out with.

• 52:13Tig Notaro?

  I'm here for anything this woman writes.

• 52:15Fortune Feimster?

  That's right, yeah.

• 52:16Tig Notaro?

  I am, whether, yeah, I'm all in. Um, should we see what Maria has to say?

• 52:21Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 52:22Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 52:23Speaker 00

  Well, I'd probably interview Mary.

• 52:25Mae Martin?

  I really thought she was gonna say Mary.

• 52:26Speaker 00

  As in the Virgin Mary.

• 52:27Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 52:27Speaker 00

  I have so many questions for her.

• 52:30Mae Martin?

  Yes.

• 52:31Speaker 00

  I have a lot of questions for Mary. From the very beginning, all the way to the very end. I mean, I have so many. You must have some questions for Mary. I don't even know if I can get into all the questions I have for her. Bye, handsome.

• 52:45Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah, Mary would be a good one, too.

• 52:48Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah. Get Mary and Jesus.

• 52:50Fortune Feimster?

  Well, there's a lot of mystery around that.

• 52:52Mae Martin?

  You'd be like, come on, girl.

• 52:53Tig Notaro?

  That could be your regular, uh, weekly, uh, dinner.

• 52:56Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 52:57Tig Notaro?

  Oh, Mary and, uh, Jesus are coming over for spaghetti.

• 53:01Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 53:01Fortune Feimster?

  We, we dig into things a little bit more each week.

• 53:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah, we give them, they, he turns the water to wine. We got him a little tipsy.

• 53:09Fortune Feimster?

  That is nice.

• 53:09Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 53:11Fortune Feimster?

  Mm-hmm. Look at that.

• 53:12Mae Martin?

  He'd be a cheap date. You just need one fish, right?

• 53:15Fortune Feimster?

  He would.

• 53:16Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 53:16Fortune Feimster?

  He doesn't seem like he would eat much.

• 53:17Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah, and you fish. You can bring the fish.

• 53:20Fortune Feimster?

  That's right.

• 53:20Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 53:21Fortune Feimster?

  Aww.

• 53:21Tig Notaro?

  I used to fish. Anyway.

• 53:26Tig Notaro?

  Well, I have to say, complete delight.

• 53:29Mae Martin?

  Absolute delight.

• 53:30Tig Notaro?

  It, it, it never, ever isn't a delight to do this in person.

• 53:35Mae Martin?

  Oh. I know. In a perfect world, it would always be in person. It is so, it is so nice.

• 53:41Fortune Feimster?

  I'm gonna kiss.

• 53:42Tig Notaro?

  Oh.

• 53:42Fortune Feimster?

  Your actual hand.

• 53:43Tig Notaro?

  Fortune kissed my hand.

• 53:46Mae Martin?

  Did you just eh me?

• 53:47Fortune Feimster?

  I've never done.

• 53:48Mae Martin?

  No, no, I'm sorry. It's just because, please, please, thank you, Fortune.

• 53:53Fortune Feimster?

  I got an eh.

• 53:54Mae Martin?

  Well, because my hand was trapped, I thought, and I thought you probably don't.

• 53:57Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, I have to reach that far.

• 53:59Mae Martin?

  I thought I was letting you off the hook because you thought, oh, God, now I gotta kiss me.

• 54:02Tig Notaro?

  You got an eh from May and then I didn't actually kiss your hand. I kissed mine, so you didn't get.

• 54:08Fortune Feimster?

  I didn't get much of anything from this.

• 54:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 54:11Mae Martin?

  Next time.

• 54:12Tig Notaro?

  No, you always got your corn dogs waiting for you.

• 54:14Fortune Feimster?

  I have a turkey corn dog.

• 54:16Tig Notaro?

  And your tits out tub.

• 54:17Fortune Feimster?

  Tits out tub.

• 54:19Tig Notaro?

  Well, that was, that was a real delight.

• 54:21Fortune Feimster?

  She was.

• 54:22Tig Notaro?

  And.

• 54:23Mae Martin?

  I wish we all lived together in a big house with a fireman's pole and we slide down in the morning.

• 54:27Tig Notaro?

  We can do that on Wellness Weekend.

• 54:28Fortune Feimster?

  You sure can.

• 54:29Tig Notaro?

  I can put a wellness, a wellness pole, a fire pole at my office if we, if we stay there for Wellness Weekend.

• 54:37Mae Martin?

  I think if we're doing it, we should go to nature. That's my feeling. If we're in LA, we're gonna be tempted.

• 54:42Tig Notaro?

  You've seen the backyard of my office, right?

• 54:44Mae Martin?

  It is pretty beaut, yeah, that's true.

• 54:47Tig Notaro?

  Anyway, either way.

• 54:49Fortune Feimster?

  I would love a Palm Springs Wellness Weekend.

• 54:51Mae Martin?

  I'd do that, or Joshua Tree.

• 54:53Tig Notaro?

  It's a little hot. Now, all of my tour dates, you can find at Tignotaro.com. Please go there and check it out.

• 55:02Fortune Feimster?

  I'm gonna be in Europe soon with Berlin, Oslo, Stockholm, Copenhagen, London, and Dublin. My mom will be at a few of those. And then back in the States, Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Detroit, and somewhere else, Omaha.

• 55:26Mae Martin?

  Nice.

• 55:27Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 55:27Mae Martin?

  I am, what I know is June 10th, I'm at Largo in LA. And then I'm doing two music festivals this summer. I've never done a music festival.

• 55:36Tig Notaro?

  That's so exciting.

• 55:36Mae Martin?

  One of them's in Yellowknife, and it's gonna be.

• 55:39Fortune Feimster?

  Where's Yellowknife?

• 55:41Tig Notaro?

  Two against one?

• 55:42Mae Martin?

  Like, the Northwest Territories, I think, in Canada.

• 55:45Fortune Feimster?

  Oh, okay, that's.

• 55:46Mae Martin?

  But it's like.

• 55:47Tig Notaro?

  Oh, yeah, that's not our country.

• 55:48Mae Martin?

  Daylight 24 hours. It's one of those, yeah, it's gonna be surreal. And then the other one.

• 55:54Tig Notaro?

  Oh, Yellowknife.

• 55:54Mae Martin?

  Yellowknife.

• 55:55Fortune Feimster?

  Now I know where that's right.

• 55:57Tig Notaro?

  Yellow Knife.

• 55:59Mae Martin?

  In July, and also I'm gonna play in Guelph, Ontario. I'm doing another music festival.

• 56:05Fortune Feimster?

  I've been to Guelph.

• 56:07Mae Martin?

  You've been to Guelph?

• 56:07Fortune Feimster?

  I filmed there.

• 56:08Mae Martin?

  A lot of my friends went to university there. It's a really nice place.

• 56:10Fortune Feimster?

  I wanna go to Guelph. It was cute.

• 56:12Mae Martin?

  You'd like it.

• 56:12Tig Notaro?

  I've never heard of it, but what a great name.

• 56:14Mae Martin?

  Doesn't it sound nice?

• 56:15Fortune Feimster?

  I know, I kept pronouncing it wrong.

• 56:16Mae Martin?

  What were you saying? Gulf.

• 56:19Fortune Feimster?

  Gulf.

• 56:19Mae Martin?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:21Fortune Feimster?

  And yeah, we filmed in a little, there's a cute little downtown.

• 56:24Mae Martin?

  Yeah, really nice. But I've never done a music festival, so if you're near Yellow Knife or Guelph, like the nightmare is you're playing outside and there's 20 people, right? So please.

• 56:33Fortune Feimster?

  Don't do that to me, y'all.

• 56:34Mae Martin?

  Don't do that to me.

• 56:35Fortune Feimster?

  Don't do that to me in Europe either. I need our European handsome folks to get tickets.

• 56:40Tig Notaro?

  How do people get sleep? They just wear eye masks?

• 56:43Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 56:43Fortune Feimster?

  Or blackout curtains?

• 56:45Mae Martin?

  Blackout curtains, I guess. Yeah, it's gonna be wild.

• 56:49Tig Notaro?

  And that's year round in Guelph?

• 56:51Mae Martin?

  Uh, well, winter it's dark all the time.

• 56:53Tig Notaro?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay.

• 56:54Mae Martin?

  Yeah, winter, I mean, Iceland's the same, right?

• 56:57Tig Notaro?

  I don't know.

• 56:58Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 56:58Tig Notaro?

  I'll get Bjork on the horn.

• 57:00Fortune Feimster?

  It went, uh, it got dark in Iceland around 10:00 PM when I, when I was there.

• 57:05Mae Martin?

  Yeah.

• 57:05Tig Notaro?

  Well, that's when you head in for the night anyway.

• 57:07Fortune Feimster?

  That's right.

• 57:08Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 57:09Fortune Feimster?

  What a podcast.

• 57:10Tig Notaro?

  Yeah.

• 57:11Fortune Feimster?

  What a podcast.

• 57:12Tig Notaro?

  Share, uh, episodes with your friends if, if you love this one, which I think you did.

• 57:16Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 57:17Tig Notaro?

  Share it. Help build our community and, um, rate, review.

• 57:22Mae Martin?

  And don't forget, you can now watch us on Hulu a day earlier than YouTube if you're, if you're fiending.

• 57:28Fortune Feimster?

  Yeah.

• 57:28Tig Notaro?

  And you are.

• 57:30Fortune Feimster?

  We'll see you there.

• 57:31Tig Notaro?

  Yeah, and until next time.

• 57:33Fortune Feimster?

  Keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and Mae Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Woolett. Email us at [email protected] and follow us on social media at HandsomePod. What a podcast. What a podcast.

• 57:57Speaker 05

  That was a HeadGum Podcast. What's going on? It's Lamorne Morris.

• 58:02Fortune Feimster?

  And Hannah Simone.

• 58:03Speaker 05

  And we host The Mess Around, a New Girl rewatch podcast on HeadGum. Now, here's the thing. Every single week, we chat about an episode of New Girl, and we really get into it. Like, we get up in there. We get up in there. You know, we reminisce about our times on set. We share behind-the-scenes tea. We react to rewatching episodes that we haven't seen in years. We talk about how Jake Johnson is dogged.

• 58:25Fortune Feimster?

  That's not true. We talk about so many memories we have of working with the biggest stars on the planet. I'm talking Prince, Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo.

• 58:37Speaker 05

  We're just two BFFs having a good old time, okay? Sometimes, we even talk to other co-stars like Zooey Deschanel, Jake Johnson, Max Greenfield, and Damon Wayans Jr., and your dad. We talk to your dad on this show as well.

• 58:48Fortune Feimster?

  Make sure you subscribe to The Mess Around wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every single Tuesday.