333 - Chipping for Approval

Andy and his groomsmen (and Jack) gather to film the sacred “Chipping of the Rings” wedding rehearsal - a full-scale simulation designed to win Bec’s approval for the wedding. Bec delivers her final verdict. Plus, an update on Hame’s Hives and another instalment of The Lady of Stain! 1. Horgs Chips the Wedding Ring & Bec’s Reaction 2. Lady of Stain 3. Hame’s Hives Verbal Agreement

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  Activate your internet because the Hay Mission Andy Podcast starts in three, two.

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  Sorry, it's still buffering. One.

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  Ahoy to my ridiculous humanus capitus.

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  You did all three at once.

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  How?

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  That's just one.

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  How dare you reference my humanus? It's actually pronounced huge.

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  No, ahoy to my ridiculous humanus humanus. That's Jack.

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  Double humanus, great.

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  Yep. And I-

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  Insane in the humanus.

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  Am the thyrus pubus.

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  Well, I mean, we're all, I think we're all hanging around the huge anus.

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  Are we in the pelvis?

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  You say that we're like tendons or bones or something around the pelvis.

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  I would say having, Jack probably hasn't encountered this yet, but you having young kids would have encountered at some point.

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  Oh, vasectomy.

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  No.

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  Where the tubes?

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  No, no, the kids have it. The kids have it.

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  The kids have it.

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  The kids have it.

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  Don't give kids vasectomy.

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  Ridiculous humanus.

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  Unless they've been very naughty. You threaten it, but you never follow.

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  You never follow. Ridiculous humanus capitus.

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  Kids have it.

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  Capitus. Yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, and you're miming putting a cap on.

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  Yeah. So it's something on your head. Is it the soft, the fontanelle's the soft part of the skull? Is it something skull based?

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  It's something that if you find out you've got it in the classroom, most kids-

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  Lice.

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  We're different types of lice and I bet it's because Liza had head lice herself last week. Not meant to declare those things, Jack.

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  God damn it, she's borrowing from her real life. This is, it's fine by me, sorry.

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  Millionaire. Yes.

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  Oh, God, yeah, we've had lice many times.

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  Capitus being head lice. Humanus humanus, that is body lice.

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  Body lice.

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  And I'm thyrus pubus, which are-

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  Pubus lice.

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  The other lice.

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  Adult, up late lice.

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  Yes.

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  Yes.

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  Pubus lice. Yes, they, well, the three types, the three main types of lice that you can encounter.

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  Could a head lice ever go for a bold run and go down to the pubus? Do a bit of a Leroy Jenkins?

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  For a huge rock. Where are you going? I'm going down the face.

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  Sad when Hillary.

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  You're mad. Yeah, a reverse Hillary. A descent, a famous descent. I'm heading, I hear there's a promised land of tighter, curly hair than this.

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  No, it's not what you think.

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  You'll never be back. I don't wanna be back.

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  I think they're different species.

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  Yeah, it's you'd never, it wouldn't know what to do down there.

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  No, no, I don't think it would survive. Kind of like a tiger saying, I wanna go to the bottom of the ocean.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah, I don't.

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  Yeah, it has to adapt. You can't do it in one generation.

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  Yeah.

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  Wild. Good news though, I mean, as a PSA, Jack, have you had lice yet? Does Gordy?

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  We haven't hit lice, no.

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  Usually longer hair is tougher.

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  Well, Gordy must be trying to stop himself from getting lice. Just this morning, I left my clippers out and he shaved a bald spot in his head.

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  Smart.

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  10 minutes before I left for the podcast.

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  No, that's a cool look.

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  Yep.

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  But it's, it's, it's not as bad as it used to be. Cause now there's, it used to be like a seven day arduous thing. But now there are foams and stuff that'll knock it out in one.

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  Yeah, yeah, you just, you just, I think it's like a 15 minutes in your hair and then. All we had when we were kids was the tight comb. You still do the comb.

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  You do still use the tight comb.

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  I had experienced this, not my hair, but hair close to me.

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  Oh, your pubis.

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  In the fairies. I don't wanna do what you did, Jack, and just out some lice people. But um, yes, you do the treatment and then you comb it out and you see them all in the tight. You see all the lice.

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  Eggs.

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  Um, yeah.

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  Was this a pubis combing you had to know when you died?

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  Nah, a caponist.

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  Pure caponist.

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  Pure caponist.

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  Pure caponist, yes. Would love.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  Love to go to the chemist and go, need the lice comb and I'll need the, yep, okay, here it is. I need the pubis one. It's the same comb.

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  Oh, I shouldn't have said.

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  Shouldn't have said.

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  I'll order also to Kate, who went to hamishnandy.com, she's now living in Canada to upload what she's been up to.

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  Ahoy SP, birthday boy and number six, little boy Weasel. Kate here from Vancouver, Canada. I'm also getting married this year, Andy. Congratulations. Wanted to let you guys know that there will be a nod to the podcast at our wedding. A little bit of an accident. We're having welcome drinks on the Friday night. And when we made our website, it was the same time as you guys created the world tallest hat. Congratulations. As a joke, my fiance put dress code, wear your tallest hat. And then we forgot about it. And now a month out from our wedding, we're getting photos and questions. Is this hat tall enough? Is this what you mean by wear your tallest hat?

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  Over 60% of our guests are Canadian and they don't really know what's going on, but they're leaning in. So we're going to have a tall hat party in the podcast honour with no one really knowing what it means. I love that they've leaned in, so we'll keep you guys updated with some photos.

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  Please.

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  Anyway, love the podcast. Thanks for being my dose of home over the last eight years while I lived here. Keep up the good work.

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  Kate, tremendous. And another good idea for a wedding that I'm sure Beck will poo poo.

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  I know, it's so traditional.

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  Which brings us to the matter at Han Ham. We've got to jump into this because earlier today, we got together.

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  Yeah.

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  With all the groomsmen. So it was yourself, Hogs, Cam, my brother, to basically do a rehearsal of what we are hoping will be a feature at the wedding.

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  A very special moment of the passing of the rings, the chipping of the rings.

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  Yes.

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  It's a really special moment for weddings that are brave enough to do this ceremony.

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  You were hoping to get a little box made up so rings can go in, which is exactly the same as a ball. Hogs would be doing the chipping.

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  A small golf ball.

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  Yep. Cam, my brother, best man, would do the catching and then we'd present the rings in this recreation.

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  Yep.

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  Which we'll send to Beck.

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  Yep.

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  And then we'll get a live after you've heard what it went down.

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  Yep.

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  You played the celebrant. Just so you could kind of direct traffic and you'll pass that script on to.

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  The idea being that your celebrant for the day can just look at this video, listen to this audio and go, great, word for word, please just do this.

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  There's an indoor basketball court here at the studio, which we didn't know about, but that's what we booked.

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  Does need to be said, not owned by the studio, just in the same kind of trendy office building.

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  Yes.

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  It's kind of, I think in this whole world of like end of trip facilities.

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  Yes.

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  You know, why not get in 10 minutes early and shoot some hoops? I guess it's the idea of when they built the building.

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  Which would have been heavily used in the first two months of opening.

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  It's surprising, it was free today, we were able to book it and we were able to use it as the simulation.

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  Somebody talking about it, have you?

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  No. I don't think it has anything.

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  Darcy, Darcy goes down and plays.

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  Okay.

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  Yeah, so weirdly that it's still being used. But anyway, we booked it out this morning and this is how the rehearsal went.

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  Okay.

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  Oh, hello.

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  Gentlemen, come in.

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  This is quite exciting. This is the first time we've all been together.

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  Congratulations, feeling good?

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  Good to be much.

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  Welcome to Andy's sacred chipping of the rings.

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  Wedding rehearsal.

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  Yeah. Sorry, wedding rehearsal and simulation. As you'll see, this is, this gives us a loose idea of what the setup's gonna be. Hogs, you'll be chipping.

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  Not many people at the wedding.

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  Imagine more. And I also think on the day, it'll be a much nicer basketball court. That you're getting married on. But for the simulation, this works.

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  Yeah. I didn't know this existed in the building, Ham. You put together a couple of neat rows. I've noticed that you've positioned my mum on the left hand side, Beck's dad at the front. And there's kind of, what, two rows of five people going back.

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  Yeah.

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  It's a pretty thin aisle. Do we want to give Hogs more?

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  I think if we show he can perform on this, he can do it anywhere.

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  Yeah. And now, why is there a cardboard cutout of Harry Styles?

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  That's me. It was just about what cutouts were available.

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  Okay, that's generous.

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  That was good luck for me.

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  Yeah.

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  And then AFL star and now commentator and radio personality, Nick Riewold.

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  Yep. In a wig with a veil on, isn't he Beck?

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  Again, just how many, just cutouts available. So that's Beck, that's your beautiful wife. God, look at her arms, wedding shredding. Wow.

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  It looks like. What, is it a nine metre chip? Yeah, something like that. Twelve metres? Nothing Hogs can't handle. No, no, he's actually a very, very good chipper. I think what we should do is start all the groomsmen here. So Cammy, as best man, you're, I think, closest to Andy. And you're up next to Beck.

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  Yep.

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  Cammy, you're there. Hogs, you're probably, you're on stage and then I'll, as the celebrant, I'll guide you to the chipping position.

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  Okay.

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  What order did you think you're going to be standing in over here?

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  I guess I'd be in the middle where Harry is, or do you think on the end?

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  Do you reckon that makes you up a hierarchy of Hogs or?

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  It's just a nice place to see me.

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  Am I holding the club at this point or not? I think in a dignified, what, can I just have a look? Hold it like a palace guard would hold a rifle. Oh, yeah. That's nice. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's nice.

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  So Cam's going to catch it.

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  Yeah, Cammy, you're good to catch. And we're going over people? Well, I think. Or do I move to the front? In, during the ceremony, you will move here to the catching position.

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  Okay. Between Beck and I?

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  Yes. Favor, get in front of Beck. Okay. Because we've got a couple of nightmare scenarios. One of the nightmare scenarios is a golf ball to her head, to Beck's head. Yes. That's our real no-no.

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  So.

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  What club are you for? You've got your own club? Yep.

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  I've got the 58 degree.

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  You did say a pitching wedge. I've got a pitching wedge in the script.

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  Right.

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  You've gone back to 58 degree. I agree that you want a higher loft, but in the script, it's a pitching wedge. Can you adapt the script?

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  He'll see why not.

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  I'll do my best.

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  I don't think people are going to check.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It refers to the club as a pitching wedge in the script. It's a pitching wedge. Do you know what? I'm just thinking, I reckon during the catching, maybe we move Beck back. Even she takes a few safe steps back. Because I think, Cam, if you're standing in front of her to protect her, that also does induce Hogs to aim for her.

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  So it's like, do we protect her? Do we?

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  I think you.

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  I think she'll be fine. Yeah, Hogs is confident. Hogs is confident.

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  What's Jack? He's into a high views over there.

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  He'll come in in a moment. Jack, you'd be pleased to know, as someone that didn't have a role, you do have a role at the wedding now.

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  Yes, if we get through and do this for real on the day, will I be the medic on the day?

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  Yes.

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  I thought I was pretending to be a medic today.

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  No, no, this is your role at the wedding. But he wouldn't have first aid training.

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  I don't have first aid training.

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  We'll get you some. It's months away. Jack, do you want a role at the wedding or not?

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  I mean, yeah, I guess there's plenty of time.

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  You were complaining about not having a role.

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  Yeah, no, you're right, actually. Plenty of time. Okay.

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  I think I'd prefer a proper medic. Mate, how's Jack, though? I don't have a role. Wanted a free suit just for turning up.

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  By the way, we'll all get some suits together. We're all getting suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  Cam, you did mention this, I don't know if you want this on air or not, but you did mention you have a double eye infection at the moment.

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  Which is just, yeah, it looks like I'm looking through a smudged in Vaseline.

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  Right, okay.

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  I've got confidence in Paul.

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  Can you see okay?

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  Paul's gonna put it right on my hands.

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  But can you?

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  Yeah, sort of, yeah.

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  I'm sure that won't come back into play.

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  If I had medical training, Cam, I would treat your eyes right now. But I haven't got it yet.

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  Yeah, but you've got to remember, on the day, you'll have a whole thing.

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  Yes, I'll have lots of eye stuff.

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  Lots of oil.

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  And flush that out.

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  Bring your head kit, bring your head injuries kit. Anything neck up, favor. This is great, this is beautiful. Thanks, guys, for rocking up. I'm not sure if we explained what we're doing, but... I had no idea.

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  Sorry, yeah. You got it now or do you want a quick rundown?

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  On the day, the rings will be in a perfectly, like anatomically correct golf ball.

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  Like, it will weigh and feel exactly like a golf ball. That will then unscrew, and the rings are inside. This is the delivery of the rings to the altar in a very exciting and meaningful way.

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  Yes.

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  Because at this stage. She's lukewarm. Well, she's lukewarm. Lukewarm. But so we thought it was best to show her exactly how it would look. To get her across the line, yeah. This is basically like our Olympic host city bid.

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  You didn't want to get Beck here for the.

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  Asked her, she said no. So what we're doing, filming this very respectfully. And we'll cut it together like a wedding video. So we can show her straight after. Her special day. Her special day, and we think that'll get across a lot. Like a little bit of a future echo of her special day. Okay, we're happy to pick it up from. Yes. This is the moment. So I'm about to change character now, I'm going to be the celebrant, not Hame, Hame's Harry Styles. Yep, generous.

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  We now come to the most sacred part of the ceremony. The exchanging of rings. Rings around as they are a symbol of eternity, both into the future and where we've come from. Andy, a large part of your life has been small ball golf. Andy often talks about how much he enjoys the space and quiet of the golf course. As the ideal place, he can think deeply about his love for Beck. True. That's why he goes out there.

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  Beck, in your professional life, you are often giving or receiving pitches. Yes. Therefore, groomsman Michael Horgan will now chip the rings to best man camp using a pitching wedge.

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  In a beautiful gesture that combines the two things you love. Lovely. Golf and pitches. Yes.

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  I mean, option.

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  May your love take you to new heights. May it loft you up higher to the angle of 58 degrees. Almost the highest loft a golf ball can achieve. Yes. That's the option, I think the pitch is a bit better.

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  We resume. The chipping of the rings ceremony is a very sacred part of any wedding that conducts this ancient ritual. It beautifully symbolizes the chain-like supporting effect that friends play in both Bec and Andy's lives. Whilst Cam will be catching the rings, Hamish and Poppy will assume a backup catching position to further symbolize additional support. Non-groomsmen but friend, Jack Post will now take his place as medical runner near the altar with a full medical kit ready to discreetly run out and administer very quick and very quiet first aid to any head injuries in the extremely unlikely event of an errant shot.

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  Jack's role as medical runner is also deeply symbolic of the fact that we should never take our head health or full health for granted and to cherish every day.

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  That's good.

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  Michael will now move into position to perform the sacred ritual of the chipping of the rings.

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  Pause one second.

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  Yeah.

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  Just think we're just having a quick chat. I think it's important, if we pull it off, not to celebrate.

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  Yes.

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  I think it's...

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  I was going to say that.

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  I think our instinct... No, no, I don't think we need to say it that way.

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  Please refrain from celebrating when Cameron takes the catch, as this is a sacred moment, not one for cheers and beers.

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  I just think that she will think it's about us if we pull it off.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  When Cameron catches the ball, there will be an impulse to cheer. We will allow a small cheer, but only because it symbolizes how excited we are for love, rather than a great chip and catch.

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  Yeah, great, okay, that's good.

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  Michael, will you please take your place?

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  Do you want to do a damn... How many years have you guys been together? Mark, Hogsden. No, no.

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  Been together forever. Eighteen, nineteen, twenty. Yeah, twelve.

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  Twelve. Michael, you'll now take twelve large paces from the altar, very large paces, to symbolize how long Andy and Bec's life...

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  Start from there, though, Hogsden. Yeah.

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  Eleven, twelve.

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  Perfect. Michael has finished pacing.

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  Cameron will now move into the sacred catch's position. Perfect.

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  Well, here we are, folks. Michael Horgan with a tough lie on a concrete basketball court. He's a big game player, though. Shouldn't affect him. In front of him, a skinny aisle with 10 cardboard cutouts symbolizing Andy and Beck's loved ones. And don't forget cardboard Nick Rewalt, in a wig and veil, standing in for Beck. Okay, I think he's ready to chip.

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  Chip when ready.

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  Let's watch this very beautiful, yet technically and skillfully impressive, expression of Andy and Beck's love. Here he goes.

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  Oh no, it's hit Beck in the shin. Oh gosh, I just bounced under Cam's hand, it's hit Beck in the shin. Oh no. Jack, quick. Oh, sorry, that's my job. Do I stretcher her off?

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  Jack, it's picked up. There will be a brief intermission. As Beck

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  takes a moment to...

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  By rings hitting us in the shin, it symbolizes that rings are a... Yep, just wrong. We're not going to get it, are we? I don't think so. With love comes pain, but we must have both together. They are two sides of the same coin. Beck has learnt this the hard way, as Michael expertly showed that a marriage can be nothing without the necessary pain that we all must endure. For that is the cost of love. Okay, just... Michael will now, for real,

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  chip the ring all the way to Cam, as Beck has rejoined us and told us she enjoyed the symbolism and would now like to see the real catch. So I just want to quickly pause for a second. Do you think there's any scenario where Beck gets hit in the shin? Yes. Before we just saw it. Has medical attention and then is willingly coming back and letting us do this again? What's Beck's dress like? You don't know, do you? No. Full length would have to be? Yes, there's full length. Shingards. Shingards. You'd never notice it. Yes, yes, we'll ask her.

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  Hey, if we're going to get this across the line, we need to bury what just happened. Okay. Michael will now, for real, chip the ring to Cameron for the first time.

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  Michael Horgan with a 12 metre... For love. Oh, that's high.

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  Oh my god. Uh oh. Who's that?

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  It's hit Beck's dad in the face off a rebound.

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  Beck's dad has calmed down. Oh no. Beck's father has always been special to her. And in a wonderful show of symbolism, what father amongst us wouldn't also throw themselves in the way of anything that would hurt our child? A beautiful gesture from Beck's father on this special day as Andy becomes the main man in her life. He showed us the true pain of fatherhood of giving away your daughter. But at the same time, this true fighting spirit of the Harding bloodline. He's back and smiling. And now, Michael, for real, we'll chip the rings.

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  A sight we've never seen before. A true display of skill. Michael Horgan with a chip for love. Quiet, please. He's ready to go.

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  Oh, beautiful.

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  Oh, great.

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  Thank you. Thank you for your small cheer. Michael, you may now rejoin the wedding party. Medical runner Jack, thank you for your service.

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  Well done, Horgan.

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  Depending on the edit, we didn't need you.

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  Cam has opened up the ball and passed me the rings. So I now have them.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  Andy now has the rings. Beck, take a moment to wipe your eyes. Tears of joy, nothing to do with her shins. Tears of joy at the majestic arc of the rings. They landed safely in Cam's hands as all so many of Andy's hopes and dreams have landed in Cam's hands over the years and carefully cradled by his brother to now flawlessly become part of the ceremony.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Good on them, guys.

• 21:52Speaker 07

  Well done, guys. Well done.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  Couple of hiccups. I'm not going to lie to you. Two people down. One was the bride, but yeah.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  Make him kiss the bride.

• 22:03Speaker 07

  I'm not gonna make out with Nick Reewal.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  She's limping.

• 22:05Speaker 07

  So what do we do? To Hawks, how confident are you now that you've had three goes that you'll be fine on the day?

• 22:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, what am I gonna be hitting on the day? This is rock hard.

• 22:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, it was a tight lie. We probably need...

• 22:19Speaker 02

  We did talk about getting a little bit of turf.

• 22:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  The slow-mo bounce under your hands into Bec's shins is something I do wanna have a quick look back at.

• 22:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  We shouldn't let Bec see.

• 22:33Speaker 07

  No, no, no.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Because that was the nightmare scenario as we...

• 22:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, in the version we showed Bec, we're just gonna show the last one.

• 22:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, and then we'll see if she says yes.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  All right, I look forward to doing it for real. Well, it's quite confident.

• 22:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, the last little bit.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  That last one was really good.

• 22:51Speaker 07

  And it is very hard-hilled. That's, yeah, rock hard. That's a tough lie. But that's life, symbolizing the tough lie we sometimes must play off in life.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 23:01Speaker 07

  God, this thing writes itself.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  Okay, so there you go. We agreed that we would take out any of the teething issues.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  The mishaps, yep.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Yep, and we have put together a beautifully cut video by Cambo.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  We made a decision, obviously, to go... Obviously, you know, if we show the version where Bec's getting kneecapped and her dad's getting one in between the eyes, like, that's gonna be hard to get across the line. That's not gonna happen.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  No, we've worked it out.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  There's just no need for her to see that. So we made the call to go, let's send Bec now, which I believe she's got a couple of minutes ago.

• 23:36Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  A best-case scenario edit?

• 23:39Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Of the...

• 23:40Speaker 03

  And we cut it like a wedding video. So it does look beautiful. There's some beautiful slow-mo overlay with the celibates, which is celebrance words echoing over the top.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  Not the celibate. We don't know, actually. You might have a celibate, celebrant. We don't know. I go this morning, Windsor goes, you know, what are you doing today? And I was like, oh, we're actually gonna do the chipping ceremony rehearsal. Zoe goes, oh my God, she's not gonna want this. And I was like, you don't even know. How dare you? You haven't, it hasn't even happened yet. You haven't seen the video. Please don't write it off before you see the video. And I think, let's just hope that Beck's open minded when she sees this and feels the power and the very respectful power of that ceremony.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Hmm. Well, I've just got the double blue tick that she's seen it on the WhatsApp. We've sent her. She joins us now. Uh, hey, Becca.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  I am so confused.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  By what? And gusto to you.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Hello, sorry, hello.

• 24:42Speaker 03

  Hello, hello.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Hi Beck, good to have you on. Have you watched the video?

• 24:47Speaker 04

  I have. Um, and I guess I'm confused because Jack's not in it.

• 24:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, well, he's not, he's not, he wasn't required.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's, he was the medical runner in case something went wrong and he could run out and administer a very quick, discreet first aid.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  Yes, but what else was confusing?

• 25:06Speaker 06

  But I love that you cared that I was not part of the ceremony, Beck. That makes me feel.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  Well, I thought that that was what you were wanting, you were wanting Jack to be the flower, uh, ring bearer.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, no, that was, that was one of the other ideas where Jack was gonna be the flower boy. But we thought that was silly. And now this was the ceremony of hogs. So remember the rings are in the golf ball and Hogs chips them to Cam.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, yes.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  So don't worry about Jack. What did you think of the chipping of the rings ceremony? Why don't we start with the pros?

• 25:41Speaker 04

  Um, I, I did notice that you put in Harry Styles, which you may have thought might have got it across the line.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  He won't be there on the day. That was just standing because I was playing the celebrant in this version, but on the day, Harry Styles won't be there and I'll be where he was standing.

• 25:58Speaker 04

  I mean, yeah, all right. Okay. Um, yeah, I don't think there were, there were, there were no pros.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  Okay. Were there no cons?

• 26:09Speaker 04

  So like. No, there were plenty of cons.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  No, that's not true.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  Why? Why? Why?

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Um, it's not like the, the, Hogs is not chipping our wedding rings down the aisle.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Do you want me to chip them?

• 26:25Speaker 04

  No, I think.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Okay. No one is chipping. Now I'm confused. How the hell are the rings gonna get chipped?

• 26:32Speaker 03

  If Horgs or Hame doesn't do it.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Andy can't chip them, he's gotta be up there with you.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  And I wouldn't trust him.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  And we don't even know if this celebrant can chip.

• 26:44Speaker 04

  It's just not happening. I don't like, yeah, it's not happening. Also, like, where did you shoot that?

• 26:51Speaker 03

  You said that the basketball court.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  Basketball court.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, you really didn't make a very good case.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  You're looking at the wrong stuff. You're looking at Harry Styles and the basketball court.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  Of course, those things are not gonna be there in the day. Beck, I suppose what you're saying, even though this doesn't make a lot of sense to my ears, is, are you saying you didn't like the feel of it?

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Like, Andy keeps on telling me I need to stop using this word, but hated the feel of it.

• 27:16Speaker 04

  Hated the feel.

• 27:18Speaker 03

  Okay. How much was it the basketball court that was contributing to the hate? Because remember, we're not gonna be on a basketball court.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  It was the chipping of the rings?

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Dammit.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  That was my number one. That was my number one. Also, really offended that you guys put a wig and a veil on a St Kilda footballer.

• 27:39Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  Who was that?

• 27:41Speaker 03

  Nick Reewald.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  Nick Reewald. Again, you just.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  Can you look at the thing that you've not seen the forest for the trees here? Not gonna be there, you are gonna be there.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  And you're gonna look way better than him.

• 27:50Speaker 04

  Not if you're chipping, not if you're chipping rings down the aisle.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. An ultimatum. Andy? So you're saying we can get the chipping of the rings, but not with the current bride?

• 28:04Speaker 03

  Beck, I would prefer to have you as a bride.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  Oh, what a.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  No, take Nick Reewald.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 28:11Speaker 04

  You can take Nick Reewald.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  I'm hearing you loud and clear. We took a lot of effort into that, so.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  I can tell.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  That's all right. Nah.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  So what, what is gonna happen? Just Cam has them in a pocket?

• 28:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, how does Cam get them?

• 28:26Speaker 04

  What, I don't know. What normally happens in weddings?

• 28:28Speaker 02

  Chipping.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  Okay, what about this, Bec? Just for our own amusement, before the ceremony, because we'll all probably be in a hotel or something somewhere. Can we chip them in the hotel room to each other? And then Cam puts them in his pocket. And can they still come out of the ball shaped box on the night?

• 28:49Speaker 04

  No, no, they'll come out of a regular ring box.

• 28:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 28:55Speaker 04

  Private chipping, I don't want to see any of it and I don't want any guests seeing any of it.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Okay, that was the other question I had.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know how your brain works.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  Thanks darling, thanks, appreciate it.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  Oh, by the way Bec, get Andy to show you the full version. Now that, now that you've made your call, there was one version where hogs, um, chip the ball into your knees. And then the next one bounced off the backboard and hit your dad in the head.

• 29:24Speaker 04

  You know what, that one might have got it across the line, guys.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  Ah, don't lie now. But anyway, we'll put that up on our socials, but thanks darling.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  Okay, so no chip, we're down a chip, but we're up a bride.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  What a shame.

• 29:35Speaker 04

  What a shame.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Hey, on the way back from hockey, Monday nights, 10 o'clock, I heard the lady is stained back.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  She's back on, she was given out.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  I never know if this is, I'm always so conflicted because you know, we are just taking another radio show. And then like going, but you, as you pointed out last time, we're not just doing that, we're making a game out of it.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  So some effort has been displayed. We've just printed something off the internet and put it on and handed it in as our project.

• 30:12Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  We've cut it up, we've done headings.

• 30:14Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:14Speaker 02

  We've put it on a poster, we've drawn our own pictures. We've done thought bubbles and like breakout boxes.

• 30:19Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  We have done some work here, but I feel a guilty pleasure because I love this game.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  This is a game where.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  I love this game.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  A lady on the radio normally helps people, uh, with remedies to remove stains.

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  I chop it up and I'll give you the remedy, you guys have to guess the stain and the item.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  I'm bad at this game too, like that's the other thing, I've got to kind of lock in this week because I've been pantsed, I think every time. I don't think I've got one right.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  To prove that I am putting a touch more work in, I've made an opener.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  First one today. Let's just jump straight into it. You guys will hear the remedy. From Shannon the Latiest.

• 31:12Speaker 04

  Really simple. Stick it in the bath. And you fill the bath with, with blood heat water. So test the water on your wrist like you do a baby's bottle. So you run the water across your wrist. If you can't tell what temperature is, it's the right temperature. And then you, then you add a small amount of really cheap shampoo. One of the non-branded varieties because it doesn't contain so many fruit oils. And then you go for a stomp on it in the bath. Stomp up and down on it. And then all you need to do is rinse it in exactly the same temperature water.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  I'd never heard blood heat before.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  I thought you were saying wash it in blood.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  We've gone straight to the top shelf here. Okay, the stain I have is from a werewolf. Well, you must, you must wash it in blood.

• 32:00Speaker 03

  So don't, don't declare anything yet, guys. We're looking for the item.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  Essentially thirty six, thirty seven degree water. Baby shampoo, stomp.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  And then an item big enough that it needs the bath and not the sink. That's right. Here is the second part of it.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  One question, how long do you stomp on it for? Like?

• 32:20Speaker 04

  Well, you can tell because all the muck keeps coming out of it.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Oh, I see.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  You can see it. Quite visible and really satisfying.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Satisfying muck removal.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  Like a dog bed? Okay, Jack's going with dog bed.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  Got a feeling when she's saying it's satisfying, that makes me think of when I clean the vacuum cleaner filter. You see all the stuff come out and I get quite satisfied seeing that.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  But you wouldn't stomp on that.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  No, I'm just, I'm just saying it, maybe it's some kind of filter, something that you need to. It's like hidden inside it. I don't know if it is a. Doona feels crazy, but I got nothing else. I'll go for Doona.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Go for Doona. Let's have a listen.

• 33:07Speaker 02

  I've got a queen size, um. Ooh, underlay on the bed.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Your beauty.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna wash it while the weather looks like it'll be good the next. Good day.

• 33:18Speaker 03

  Well done, Hame.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Thank you. Well done. You, if I was you, Jack, you could be protesting going, you guessed dog bed and he's guessed, he's washing a human bed.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:28Speaker 06

  Well, yeah, and he hasn't even really said.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  I think.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  But I would overrule that by going, Angus was closer with Duna. And we're gonna give it to Hame.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Closer to a woolen underlay. Dog bed, when, when, when, Jack, when you, when you registered dog bed, then I was like, this is gonna be a tough one. Then Hame was talking about crunching filters, I know you speak, but I was, I'm glad you took a U-turn. All right, next one. Here's the clue.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  What you need to do is wipe the interior down with black tea. So you make a cup of tea and you just sponge down the inside of it and then put an open packet of, a whole packet of tea and shut the door and do not open the door for a week. Right.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Think, I think, I think it's if you've got a troll living in your backyard, find a troll's cave.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  Uh, Hame, you have to serve first this tug.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  I'm gonna give it away here, maybe, but I'm just gonna go oven.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Oven?

• 34:25Speaker 06

  Yep. Pantry.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  I'm guessing that's a no.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  No, no, that's, that's the laugh Andy does when he's so happy for you getting it correct.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  It was, Jack, as if it was Deal or No Deal with a hundred grand on the line.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Mate, this is, we take this game really seriously.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  Really sucked it in. Pantry.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Okay, survey says.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Do either of you want to know? That's the item. Do either of you want to have a guess of what they're trying to get rid of?

• 34:58Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 34:59Speaker 06

  Tea. It's always a bad smell, I reckon.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  I, I think it's gonna be something smell, cause leaving the open tea in there would absorb.

• 35:06Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  You know, being absorbed of something. So maybe it's a smelly microbe or a smelly oven.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  Okay, let's have a listen.

• 35:12Speaker 04

  I've got two cupboards, Shannon. One is a very old antique. Cupboard that's very musty.

• 35:19Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have to give that to Jack a pantry.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  But not really. An oven is also a type of cupboard.

• 35:30Speaker 03

  A hot cupboard.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  A very high tech cupboard. But Jack sees more of a food cupboard.

• 35:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, that going goes to Jack, but you guys a close battle today. The tiebreaker is something I heard when I, and I nearly had to pull over because I didn't know that she did this as well. But she does pest control.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  But with everyday items in your house. So you guys both have to guess.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Guess the pest.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  What the pest might be.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Right.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  Okay, Jack, you'll be serving. It comes in two parts. Here's the first part.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  Oil of cloves doesn't work, you need to use lavender oil.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  They're not interchangeable. Oils contain different volatiles. With lavender oil, it acts as a barrier. Spraying it at them doesn't kill them. What it does is stop them crossing it.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  That's the first part, guys. My other part, what I love is just listening to how much Dennis Walter.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  He's in deeper than I, than us. The only man into this more than Jack and I, you see, is her co-host.

• 36:30Speaker 03

  Yes, um, so this is the second part of that.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  If you want to kill [BLEEP], salt is better. The salt sticks to the underside of the carapace and it, and they dehydrate and die without dropping their egg casing.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Took the words right out of my mouth, Dennis.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  Jack.

• 36:52Speaker 06

  I'll go for snails.

• 36:53Speaker 03

  Snails.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Idiot. No, good guess.

• 36:58Speaker 06

  Well, they hate salt is what I was thinking.

• 37:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Cockroaches.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Okay, it was sent in by email, so Dennis had to read it out.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  Mary is in Clayton and has a problem, Shannon. How to get rid of cockroaches? I sprayed them with oil of cloves, but they are still crawling everywhere. What more can I do? How vile to have, you know, multiple cockroaches.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  Slam dunk.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  Now, sorry, Jack, at first I thought it was spies, but he did say egg, like they're not gonna drop their egg from the bottom of their carapace. I mean, it kind of gave away a bit there.

• 37:29Speaker 06

  Well, do not, don't they do eggs? How does a snail birth a snail?

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Great question, to be honest, but I can't imagine they lay and sit on eggs. Their life's slow enough. They'd never get anything done.

• 37:42Speaker 06

  Uh, that was a bit of an unfair advantage to you because you had.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Had that cockroach problem. So you were lucky there.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  That's life experience.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  I didn't use natural remedies.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  Because your dad kicked the ball with you more when you were younger. That's not life experience.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I mean, you've got, you've had a pantry just as long as I have and you did well there. But I, I certainly wasn't throwing lavender oil at them. I went full biological.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  Went as fierce as I could.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. Lavender oil is a barrier and the salt will get the job done.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  No, no, no. So will more teams, I found.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Gentlemen, you know, if I seem distracted because I'm toiling away on something in the background, but I thought I'll keep you abreast. Even though you have no financial interest or actual interest.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  No.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  From Andy in Hames Hives, my disruptive beekeeping operation.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Shaking up the honey industry whilst also still paying respect to the traditionalists and all the work that apiarists have done to get us to this point in the honey game.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  It's funny though, because Jack, when you said, you, you know, you're, you want to invest because you're worried about, you get.

• 38:59Speaker 06

  I would just hate the storyline where people are like investing in IBM in the seventies or whatever. And people are like, oh, you could have invested in.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  But there's heaps of options.

• 39:08Speaker 06

  I know, I know, but I just, wouldn't we feel so silly that we were right here? And so people would have gone like, you would have been. I'd be fine.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  And that's kind of now saying that drives me to make is the best to be operation that the world's ever seen.

• 39:22Speaker 03

  I, in London.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  Bumped into a guy called Andy, right? Who is very high, high up at Warner Brothers International.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  I was going to say Capellano or something.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  I'm interested in Warner Brothers. I want a big honey name.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  It was of, it was a fleeting passing by because he was deep in a conversation and I was in the same restaurant and I saw him and I waved. And he stopped what seemed to be a very important entertainment based international level conversation.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  And said to his, to the person he was chatting to, sorry, one second. Should I be investing in Hame's Hives? That's what he yelled across the restaurant.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  And I went, no.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  You're off, you're banned, you're banned from talking about Hame's Hives.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  Well, anyway, it is resident, what I'm saying is the feedback internationally.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  I've never received, I mean, the, the avenues that stuff's coming in, just now, true story. I put this jumper on, a business card fell out of my pocket. Cause I'm like, oh, that's right. Last night on the plane, a bloke walks past and just slips me a business card. And he's the CEO of like a bee logistics of, you know, company that, that uses. They're like, oh, we're cutting edge. Have a look, Google us. I did actually look it up. Seems could use the technology.

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Okay. But what have you done?

• 40:36Speaker 02

  Swarm management and.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  Swarm management, well, using AI.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jack, using AI, mate. That's what, how many times I have to tell you, I'm disrupting the bee game.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Well, we heard from people, we heard from people that were going offering to help last time and you said you're going to reach out to them during the week. Have you done that?

• 40:52Speaker 02

  I haven't caught up with all of them.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  Have you caught up with any of them?

• 40:57Speaker 02

  I, I've found it hard to catch up with all of them. Can I just say this before we, before we get to this?

• 41:04Speaker 03

  I feel sorry for him because you said to him on the phone, you said like.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  But some were not answering and then some's an email.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Some is an email. And if I did talk, if I haven't caught up with you yet, don't worry, you're on my radar. Thing is, I've got movement in other areas that are going on. I said from the outset, we want to run a bespoke, single origin, high altitude, Alpine, New Zealand honey operation. We've got manuka in Australia. There's a great manuka scene in Australia, great honey scene in Australia.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  Not, not, nothing against our bees. If you hit, if you land on manuka and you can't force the bees where to go.

• 41:43Speaker 03

  No.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  You can't, you know.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. Cause the manuka is the plant, isn't it?

• 41:47Speaker 02

  It's the plant.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  And we need, and you need the bees to only eat or take in that particular flower.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Get a taste for the nectar.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  And then they make a honey that's just so strictly, if they're, if they're ducking off and having a rose, that can ruin your whole manuka.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Well, it doesn't ruin it, but the only way you get it certified as manuka honey is it, once you're on, once, once you're on flow and the honey's flowing, then you get someone to test it. It's a very rigorous industry, have to test it. You get given something called an ultimate manuka factor, whatever the higher it is. Better your bees have done.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  What's the highest you've seen?

• 42:19Speaker 02

  500.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  500.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  500, wow.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  It's out of six.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Wow. He's where we're on at. First of all, I just want to say thank you to everyone in the honey game that has reached out because they're a friendly bunch. It literally is a hive. It's a real hive and there's enough honey for everyone. Enough, we need more bees. Bees do all the pollinating, bees are great for the food supply.

• 42:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  No one, everyone's up for it. Everyone's like, great, how can we help you get maximum bees? I have made a commercial commitment to a company to supply Hames Hives. This is the exciting announcement, to supply Hames Hives with 200 hives.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  Hang on, so?

• 43:12Speaker 02

  I bought 200 hives.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  Oh, right. From who?

• 43:14Speaker 02

  In New Zealand. There's a company over there that we're working with, but I'll, that's, that's the, that's the commitment I've made to them.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  A financial commitment, a verbal financial commitment.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  So have you paid for them yet?

• 43:26Speaker 02

  We're working on costings, but I've agreed, we have a deal to get 200 hives.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  And where are you going to put them?

• 43:32Speaker 02

  Don't worry about that, everywhere.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  Well, you can't just go to a local park.

• 43:36Speaker 02

  And then I've got a separate agreement with a beekeeping, I'll find my head beekeeper. Then the beekeeping and bee management side of things comes in. We're going to have them in about 20 different locations through the South Island of New Zealand. And I pledge, for one of the hives, we will have the highest altitude hive ever.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Well, not many bees will go that high.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  Yes, I know. And so that will be in experimental hives.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  The honey that comes from that hive will.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  Which will be none.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  By, by evolutionary science will have to be from the strongest bees only.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  And that honey will be the world's strongest honey, the world's strongest bees. World's strongest.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  See, I am a sucker for that stuff.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  And you know what? I'm going to put it in, that is going to be an offshoot. We're going to have three main honeys, like different flower, like different flowers. Then there'll be a premium manuka brand. But I'm thinking of doing an offshoot like an energy honey shot and it comes from those bees, strong bees, Hame's strongest bees.

• 44:38Speaker 06

  What do you mean an energy shot, like a can of B or Red Bull?

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Think about like a, no, like a little sachet of honey that you have before a workout or a bike ride or something.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  Are you interested in investing now, Jack?

• 44:48Speaker 06

  I am, I am interested in investing.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  Because that strong bee shot will be, that's gonna make some waves. The world's highest hive, the world's strongest bees producing the world's most powerful.

• 44:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, I like that.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Here's another thing, Jack. I've been actually on the phone a fair bit this week to fashion designers because, not gonna say what, but we're not, the traditional white beekeeping outfit ripe for disruption.

• 45:14Speaker 03

  What, you're gonna do a different?

• 45:15Speaker 02

  You know how SpaceX has way better spacesuits than NASA?

• 45:18Speaker 03

  All right, you just want a different, but, but people don't see that part of it. Like, who cares what you're in, as long as the bees are well behaved.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  We'll know. We don't want, actually, it's funny, we don't want well behaved bees, Andy. We want them to do whatever they want. We want renegade bees, especially these high altitude ones.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  You'd prefer them to be making honey for you, though.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Well, we want them to come back to the hive, yeah. But I think you just, we've got to let them do their thing. You can't enforce your rules on them.

• 45:41Speaker 03

  Wow, okay. So a verbal pledge for 200 hives?

• 45:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 45:46Speaker 03

  And another made up thing that you're gonna put a hive high in the mountain?

• 45:49Speaker 02

  It's not a made up thing. We will have the world's highest hive.

• 45:51Speaker 06

  What's the highest hive in existence at the moment?

• 45:53Speaker 02

  700 bees. Hang on, one more thing. Stop reaching for the bell. I've caught you twice. Andy, there's no interest in the bee operation. And I'll be honest.

• 46:05Speaker 06

  I'm no interested in the lies behind the.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  Whilst this began almost despite Andy, his honey business, despite him, things are picking up steam. We're bloody excited at Hame's Hives. I've hired, I've, I've enlisted my New Zealand friend AJ, he's head of operations.

• 46:22Speaker 06

  Why did you say hired than stop?

• 46:23Speaker 02

  I haven't given him any money.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  I'm very money, but he has a slice of the company. He's a slice of the equity because he believes in the bees.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  So he's got sweat equity, has he? Is he going to do work for you in exchange? How much percentage have you given away to him?

• 46:37Speaker 02

  That's classified, but here's the other thing. You guys know I'm filming a TV show at the moment, a new TV show. It's quite time consuming. Couldn't be a worse time, to be honest, to start up a honey operation, just in terms of available time for Hame. That's why I got AJ and Bull just to go, mate, do you believe in this? He's like, yeah, 100%. This is, the world's crying out for this and Hame's hives will be a go. So we have staff, we have verbal hive commitments. 200 hives incoming. Just found out today that Jimmy Barnes is in the bee game. Did you know this?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Really?

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Barnes bees.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  Wow, do you, are you excited about that or you feel threatened by that?

• 47:16Speaker 02

  And I congratulate Jimmy on, I read somewhere, this might be true, he's only produced 40 kilos of honey. That's not a lot.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Right, how much are you going for?

• 47:25Speaker 02

  500.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  And we may get more.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  Good luck, good luck.