Pod Insights Hamish & Andy 2025 Ep 307 - One Piano, Two Promises & One Betrayal About this episode Jack has been caught out in another scandal - this time involving the piano he gave away. Did it really reach the rightful winner?! The boys execute the final piece of the puzzle to get Andy’s dad, Mick, to upgrade from his 20-inch telly to a 55-inch. Hamish reflects on how he is slowly morphing into his father, and ahead of next week’s Tallest Hat World Record attempt, the boys go through their final risk assessments in preparation for the big day!
1. Jack’s piano saga
2. The final raffle attempt
3. Tallest hat - last minute business
4. Is Hame becoming his dad?
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0:24 Speaker 02 Ahoy to me pillar, Hamish.
0:26 Speaker 03 Mm hmm. Things of society.
0:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
0:30 Speaker 03 Ahoy to me, ahoy to me hoy.
0:33 Speaker 02 A pillar and a hoy.
0:35 Speaker 03 Ahoy to me hoy. Damn it, I really wanted to get this week because I feel like we've been sloppy lately and I was like, we've got to come in hard and get this week.
0:41 Speaker 02 I feel like you're a chance to get it.
0:45 Speaker 03 A pillar and a hoy, as in H O Y?
0:48 Speaker 02 H A U Y.
0:51 Speaker 03 Okay, that's different.
0:52 Speaker 02 Pillar, hoy and I'm Raoul.
0:56 Speaker 03 I mean, we're just types of.
0:59 Speaker 02 I said it was places you could go.
1:01 Speaker 03 Places you could go.
1:02 Speaker 02 Hmm.
1:03 Speaker 03 Jack, I'm out. I mean.
1:05 Speaker 02 I can't even, like, usually I can spread together as something.
1:09 Speaker 03 Are they?
1:10 Speaker 02 Ah, sorry, lies.
1:12 Speaker 03 I've got a bad feeling that we're gonna hate this.
1:15 Speaker 02 You're gonna hate it. You're gonna hate it. It's the Three Capes in Tasmania.
1:21 Speaker 03 No, don't hate it.
1:22 Speaker 02 I don't know, actually, don't hate that.
1:24 Speaker 03 Don't hate it.
1:25 Speaker 02 The three points.
1:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's a famous walk down there, Three Capes Walk.
1:29 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:29 Speaker 03 It's a great. I haven't done it myself and I'm sure.
1:33 Speaker 02 Multi-day hiking experience.
1:35 Speaker 03 It's one of the best. I don't know anyone that's done the Three Capes Walk that hasn't had a ball down there. I haven't done it myself.
1:41 Speaker 02 So you went down the mountain bike ride. I thought you might have been somewhere in that.
1:45 Speaker 03 Nah, that was Bay of Fires, up the east coast. But, um, you know, capes, you know, if you can get three capes near each other, absolutely link them up with a walk. That's what I always say and that's what the Department of Conservation's done.
1:59 Speaker 02 Oh, that's not what I'm thinking. I thought it was the three capes. You know how Tasmania is kind of a triangle? I thought it was all three corners of a triangle.
2:06 Speaker 03 All three points. No, no, no. Nor is it capes you can wear. It's, yeah, geographical capes. The tricky thing about these are these, well, I suppose this is all facts, but it's like you either know it or you don't. Like, we could have spent a very underwhelming 45 minutes on this podcast trying to deduce. Exactly what this could be.
2:27 Speaker 02 And Andy's clue, like in retrospect, Andy's clue of it's a place you can go is very broad.
2:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, you don't even need the you can go. It's a really, unless it's in outer space, if it's a place, it's a place you can go.
2:43 Speaker 02 Ahoy also to Talia, who went to hamishandandy.com and uploaded using the very easy to use system, better than WhatsApp audio upload system with hamishandandy.com. Tell us what she's up to.
2:55 Speaker 04 Ahoy, boys, and gusto to you from Portugal. I have just popped over here from London for a quick little weekend getaway. Must be very nice. I've definitely lost touch with a common woman on this trip. I've just had a beautiful massage and went for a gorgeous swim in the ocean, which you might hear behind me. And I did a big dive into the water. So refreshing, only to have my ear fill up with water. And all I could think of was how much I would pay someone to bleach a toilet plunger and come get the water out of my ear.
3:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, it works.
3:37 Speaker 04 Yet to find a plunger, but that's okay. Love to you, listening to the pot on the beach.
3:43 Speaker 03 Be so, remember, be very gentle, be very gentle. It doesn't need too much of a pressure differential, but it works.
3:51 Speaker 02 A hark back to Hamish using a toilet plunger on a different kid.
3:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, my son's best friend.
3:58 Speaker 02 Ear.
3:58 Speaker 03 Who's part of the family.
4:03 Speaker 02 To try and extract water from his ear.
4:06 Speaker 03 Yep.
4:06 Speaker 02 Using suction.
4:08 Speaker 03 Yes, I used a small.
4:09 Speaker 02 Lucky he's brung him to his flyer.
4:11 Speaker 03 That's why I said you've got to use a very gentle amount of pressure. You are looking to draw the water out, not yank, no plunging motion needed. You depress the plunger first before you put it on the side of the head. So you're not pushing the blockage further into the ear. You are simply, you pre-depress it, seal it onto the child's head.
4:33 Speaker 03 Or adult, in this case.
4:34 Speaker 02 Or adults and then slowly draw it back, thus removing the blockage. Can't lose.
4:41 Speaker 03 It creates a negative pressure differential and um.
4:45 Speaker 02 How she comes.
4:45 Speaker 03 That that air block has nothing to fight.
4:47 Speaker 02 Talia Hotel Reception will have a plunger, particularly in the maintenance. So um.
4:51 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
4:51 Speaker 02 Take it with them.
4:52 Speaker 03 And and bleach, I bleached it as well because of course the plunger had been in the toilet. Not terribly. I mean, that's more of a, that's more of just, I knew I'd get asked by the authorities. Okay, my wife, she'd go, that's a dirty plunger. And I'd be like, can you say that? I've already white kinged it.
5:08 Speaker 02 Yes.
5:10 Speaker 03 But even even though a lot of the time that plunger is going into a clean toilet.
5:14 Speaker 02 Yes.
5:14 Speaker 03 You know, the blockage is further down, but the water it goes into is clean.
5:18 Speaker 02 Clean's a big call.
5:21 Speaker 03 Not drinkable unless in the severest of emergencies.
5:26 Speaker 02 Hey, there's been something that's going on for a while involving our mate, Jack. Um, now, Jack.
5:33 Speaker 03 That's you, Jack.
5:34 Speaker 02 Where are we at with the piano?
5:36 Speaker 03 The piano, the piano has left the house.
5:39 Speaker 02 It has left your house.
5:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:41 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:41 Speaker 03 Okay.
5:41 Speaker 02 Do you know?
5:42 Speaker 03 Quick, quick recap for people. People would remember this is to even the karma of Jack deciding to keep the electric golf cart for himself or to stack the deck i- in favor of him winning the game.
5:54 Speaker 02 Yes.
5:55 Speaker 03 To be fair, they gave a fifty fifty chance that a listener could have won the golf cart, golf trolley.
5:59 Speaker 02 For some reason, it must have been edited in a way on social media that made it look bad. And then and then people thought I was greedy, even though I thought, we all agreed, including the listeners, that it was a fair playing field. And.
6:12 Speaker 03 No, I think you're rewriting history. We didn't know, no, we didn't all agree.
6:17 Speaker 02 Well, we all, weren't we all comfortable with it by the time we spun the wheel?
6:20 Speaker 03 From memory, there was about twenty thousand tickets in the raffle and you had ten thousand of those tickets.
6:25 Speaker 02 Hmm.
6:26 Speaker 03 And and and you got to nominate, you got to nominate how many you got. Anyway, by the by.
6:31 Speaker 02 Anyway, everyone else had the buy.
6:32 Speaker 03 So then I took the electric golf cart and then to ease the people being unhappy about that, I said I would give something of mine away and I chose a piano, which I really regret now.
6:45 Speaker 02 So let's pause for a second.
6:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:47 Speaker 02 It's a recap of where we left at last time we talked about this on the pod.
6:53 Speaker 03 Couldn't we give a quick update on the piano that you had to get shipped off to the guy in Tasmania?
6:57 Speaker 05 Yes, it is going very soon, very soon.
7:00 Speaker 03 Oh god, I thought that was months ago.
7:02 Speaker 05 The guy, apparently the guy who's coming to pick it up had abdominal strain and he can't, he can't lift it.
7:09 Speaker 03 Did you get the cheapest?
7:11 Speaker 05 I outsourced the logistics of this to Liza. Sorry.
7:16 Speaker 03 Why aren't you more across this?
7:17 Speaker 05 I actually keep-
7:18 Speaker 03 This was to rebuild your reputation.
7:20 Speaker 05 I know, I actually, I keep asking what's happening with the piano. She told me this morning before we started, he's got an abdominal strain and he doesn't want to lift the piano right now.
7:30 Speaker 03 Did you say, "Don't worry, I'll do it because I don't have a job"?
7:33 Speaker 05 No, I said, "Yeah, good point because it's really heavy. It is really heavy."
7:38 Speaker 02 So that is Jack outsourcing the job he was meant to do to Liza. And it was a bit of a rigmarole to get the piano out, probably months, you would say.
7:47 Speaker 05 Months, yes.
7:48 Speaker 03 Hang on, but why is it just one person that's able to move pianos?
7:51 Speaker 02 I don't know. They went for cheapest available because Jack had to pay for it. That was part of the thing.
7:56 Speaker 05 And not many piano movers wanted to do Trans Tasman.
7:59 Speaker 02 It has left your house?
8:01 Speaker 05 It has left the house.
8:03 Speaker 02 It has arrived at Matt's.
8:04 Speaker 05 Oh, great news!
8:06 Speaker 02 Which again, Jack should know, but this-
8:09 Speaker 03 When did it arrive?
8:11 Speaker 02 It arrived about two weeks ago, but this is where it gets tricky.
8:18 Speaker 02 I received this email on my side of the fence.
8:22 Speaker 02 It's from a fellow called Steve. "Hi, Hamish Nandi. Big fan of the show. I think we've got a mild scandal on our hands involving Jack and his so-called generous piano giveaway."
8:33 Speaker 03 What? Our favourite kind of scandal.
8:38 Speaker 02 "Jack gave away his piano on your show, which was lovely, except there's a small problem.
8:44 Speaker 02 He'd already offered it to my mate Lee live on the Christian O'Connell Breakfast Show."
8:50 Speaker 05 What? I don't remember that. Did I?
8:56 Speaker 02 That's right. He promised a piano on the radio once and then gave it away again on a podcast.
9:07 Speaker 03 He's awesome.
9:09 Speaker 02 One piano, two promises, one betrayal.
9:12 Speaker 03 Two promises we know of.
9:15 Speaker 02 Lee was ready, emotionally committed, already measuring doorways. So my question is, is Jack running some kind of musical Ponzi scheme? Was Lee just a test audience for the more high profile hand over on your podcast? And can a man truly be trusted when he double donates a piano? As Lee's official spokesperson and full time mate, I felt it was a duty to bring this injustice to your attention. Happy to provide character references. Lee would love to be heard as he has never fully recovered. So Jack, I don't like just bringing problems to you and the pod, and that's fair.
9:52 Speaker 03 I'd like at this point, Jack, would you like to have a deep think about it and self-report any other times you've promised that piano?
10:01 Speaker 05 Well, there is only, to clear it up, there is definitely only one piano. It's not like I have multiple pianos to give away.
10:07 Speaker 03 We know that. Yep. That's not what people are thinking. We're thinking that you're just touring the children's hospital and going, you know, I'm going to give you guys a piano. Yep. I've been saying that a lot lately. I'm actually going to give it to you guys. Have you done any more promising?
10:23 Speaker 05 It is also true that we, we did want to get rid of that piano. It's harder to get rid of a piano than you think.
10:30 Speaker 03 None of that's in question. We know that you chose the piano because it worked more for you than anyone else.
10:36 Speaker 05 Is he trying to filibuster us? Is he trying to speak for so long? We don't even know what the question is.
10:42 Speaker 03 The question is, do you remember giving it away more than once?
10:45 Speaker 05 I don't remember giving it away more than once. I don't even honestly remember giving it away on Christian's show to another person. That's crazy that I would give away the same piano twice.
10:57 Speaker 03 I followed this up. That's how he's feeling.
10:59 Speaker 02 I followed it up with the producers on the Christian O'Connell Breakfast Show. Right.
11:03 Speaker 05 They said, yes, this is what happened. There were two people. Lee was one of them. The other person was a guy that was going to fix your floor, wooden floor where it scraped in exchange for the piano. Do you remember that?
11:16 Speaker 02 I do remember that conversation. The piano that scratched the floor.
11:21 Speaker 03 That's a third, a third potential person that has a claim to the piano.
11:26 Speaker 05 Wait, wait. I do remember. So the piano scratched the floor.
11:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:31 Speaker 05 When we moved, when we moved into the house.
11:33 Speaker 03 My God, it's like severance. Do you not know what you're doing when you go on Christian's show and then you get severed and come on our show and just, where, where your Audi? And you just start doing the Audi stuff.
11:44 Speaker 05 I do remember someone saying they would come and fix the floor. I don't remember saying I would give him the piano, but truth be told, he never came and fixed that floor. So that scratch still remains. So that's out. So striking him.
11:55 Speaker 03 You wanna hope he's not at your house right now fixing that floor. Otherwise you've got three pianos to give.
12:00 Speaker 05 I hope he is actually.
12:01 Speaker 02 So I then, I'm not in the business, Jack, of just bringing problems.
12:06 Speaker 05 Hmm.
12:06 Speaker 02 I thought, well, maybe Matt doesn't love the piano.
12:10 Speaker 02 Maybe we can get it back off, Matt. It's been two weeks. Obviously had to wait months for it. So I gave Matt a call this morning. Hey, Matt, are you there?
12:20 Speaker 06 Yes, I am.
12:21 Speaker 02 It's Andy here. How are you?
12:22 Speaker 06 Good. How are you going?
12:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, really well. Hey, sorry it took so long for the piano to get you.
12:28 Speaker 06 That's okay. That's all right.
12:31 Speaker 02 It's there now?
12:32 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, the kids are asking me, when's it coming? When's it coming? We had to replay the episode so many times.
12:37 Speaker 02 Oh, it's, it's, it's arrived now. So is it in okay, Nick?
12:40 Speaker 06 Yeah, no, it's good. It's actually really good.
12:42 Speaker 02 Okay, great. And you've found a spot for it?
12:45 Speaker 06 Yes.
12:45 Speaker 02 And so the kids are loving it?
12:47 Speaker 06 Oh, it's the best. It is the best. It gets a bit loud sometimes, but it's really good.
12:51 Speaker 02 So no complaints?
12:52 Speaker 06 No, no complaints at all. I mean, that's no golf trolley, but no complaints.
12:56 Speaker 02 It's not a golf trolley? Yes. Yeah, I agree. Um, there's one issue.
13:02 Speaker 06 Yes.
13:03 Speaker 02 We may need it back.
13:04 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah.
13:06 Speaker 02 Yeah. So just wanted to put that towards you. I'm not sure how it's gonna pan out, but I mean, will the kids be devastated if we?
13:14 Speaker 06 No, not gonna be devastated.
13:16 Speaker 02 Great. Well, you're a very, very good man, very understanding. Um, I'll keep you updated. All right?
13:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, no worries at all.
13:22 Speaker 02 All right. Take care.
13:23 Speaker 06 Bye.
13:25 Speaker 03 It just so happens he's the nicest man.
13:27 Speaker 05 He's so nice.
13:28 Speaker 03 Ever.
13:29 Speaker 05 But I had to.
13:30 Speaker 03 The kids would be fully grown by now. I was surprised to hear they hadn't moved out. It's been so long.
13:36 Speaker 05 Great. I'm so happy that it's found a new home and it's getting loved and it's getting played.
13:41 Speaker 03 Are you?
13:42 Speaker 05 Yes.
13:43 Speaker 03 Because?
13:47 Speaker 05 What? Because what? I have from a phone log here that you called Liza last week to ask whether the piano had gone to Tasmania or not because Bianca, your wife has found the perfect spot for it in your house.
14:03 Speaker 05 No, if Matt's got it, if Matt's got it and he's playing it, then all, then, then all good. Like, obviously, we're not going to bring it back across the Tasman.
14:14 Speaker 03 Great.
14:14 Speaker 05 But I did. Yeah, I would, I would take it back.
14:21 Speaker 03 He's not offering it.
14:22 Speaker 05 All right.
14:25 Speaker 05 This is what hap- this is essentially what happened was we had the old crappy piano that Matt's got now, but it still did a job.
14:32 Speaker 03 I thought you loved it.
14:33 Speaker 05 It still did a good job as a piano.
14:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:35 Speaker 05 I had plans to go and buy a new piano and then I quit the radio show and now we don't have that much money anymore. So we can't afford a new piano. So, but that all happened while Matt was getting transferred the old piano.
14:49 Speaker 03 So when you gave it away, you had a cushy, you had a lucrative breakfast radio job.
14:53 Speaker 05 And I was like, well, we'll get, don't worry, we'll get a brand new piano. It's gonna be so nice. Then that, that cushy job went away and now I've got no piano and I would love to have our piano.
15:06 Speaker 05 But not Matt.
15:06 Speaker 03 Who are you appealing to here?
15:07 Speaker 05 Not Matt, not Matt, not Matt.
15:09 Speaker 03 I, I, from the very get-go, and I'd be, I reckon if we replayed the audio, the first thing out of my mouth, I reckon, when Jack said, we have this piano, I said, this better not be a weasel attempt to get a piano upgrade.
15:21 Speaker 05 Yes.
15:22 Speaker 03 And I fear it is. I fear it is, Andy.
15:25 Speaker 05 It's not, it's not.
15:26 Speaker 03 Well, you're doing a lot of, I want a piano, I want a piano, but I can't afford one, which is, that's the bell-tails scratching of a weasel's claw, digging a new burrow.
15:36 Speaker 05 I'm just spitballing here now.
15:38 Speaker 03 What about Lee?
15:39 Speaker 05 I don't think we can take it off Matt. Yeah. So going back to Lee, I don't think we can take it off.
15:42 Speaker 03 Legally, you promised it first to someone else. What if he comes out of the woodwork?
15:46 Speaker 05 What about this?
15:49 Speaker 05 We acquire a new piano.
15:52 Speaker 03 And it's a new spin of the wheel, 50 50, Lee versus Jack to see who gets it.
16:01 Speaker 05 I feel like, yes, I'm very, obviously very interested. I just feel like the people made themselves quite clear the last time we spun the wheel.
16:12 Speaker 03 Also, you wouldn't want to go into that situation again.
16:14 Speaker 05 I just, I see me getting carried away. The wheel comes up, I win, I'm dancing, I'm fist pumping, la la la, and then.
16:25 Speaker 03 Wasn't good optics, was it?
16:26 Speaker 05 Then people were writing comments like, oh, what a shame.
16:30 Speaker 03 Right, right. Well, it wasn't the best look.
16:32 Speaker 05 Do we?
16:33 Speaker 03 What if, do we let Lee decide how many tickets Lee gets?
16:37 Speaker 02 That's interesting.
16:38 Speaker 03 Jack, because we were looking at getting a beautiful stand up piano.
16:43 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, beautiful upright piano that stays in tune. That's the problem with the one Matt's got, goes out of tune quite easily.
16:50 Speaker 02 He didn't have tuned in mind, I asked him about that.
16:52 Speaker 05 Yeah, give your kids a plan, they don't care.
16:55 Speaker 05 Okay, I'm very interested.
16:57 Speaker 02 I like your thinking, Ham. So we, we, we get a piano. Lee then has the choice of how many tickets he would like.
17:06 Speaker 03 Here's what I, here's where my brain goes. We've got, Lee has a legitimate claim to it because it was promised to him by Jack.
17:13 Speaker 05 Okay.
17:13 Speaker 03 You have Jack, who benevolently has given away two pianos, now wants all of them back and would like, would like him to be up plus one pianos. You also have any listeners that are listening that would like their own attempt to win?
17:26 Speaker 05 Oh.
17:27 Speaker 03 The upright piano. So I think you have three parties here. I think we almost started a new.
17:33 Speaker 05 No, I can't steal from the listeners again, surely not.
17:36 Speaker 03 Well, do we start a new raffle? Everyone enters, Lee decides how many tickets each party gets.
17:43 Speaker 02 Jack, the listeners, or Lee?
17:45 Speaker 03 And then we, when we spin it up on the roulette wheel. Well, we'll just see how it goes. We don't know what the split's going to be. It probably won't be a roulette wheel anymore.
17:53 Speaker 02 No, we might think of another way to run it.
17:54 Speaker 03 Randomly, randomly do it. So Jack, Lee will decide how many tickets you get in this raffle.
18:00 Speaker 05 Can I talk to Lee before we get him on?
18:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, absolutely. But we have to record it. We'll be hearing it for sure.
18:06 Speaker 05 Okay.
18:07 Speaker 03 How many tickets, Jack?
18:08 Speaker 05 I like my gut goes.
18:10 Speaker 03 Let's just say there are three. Let's say there are 300 tickets available. How many should Lee have? How many should Jack have? And how many should the listeners that want a piano get?
18:20 Speaker 05 It makes sense to me to go equal thirds.
18:24 Speaker 05 Hundred, a hundred.
18:24 Speaker 03 So you get a hundred tickets.
18:26 Speaker 05 A hundred, a hundred, a hundred. Yeah.
18:27 Speaker 03 You get a hundred tickets. Lee gets a hundred tickets.
18:30 Speaker 05 Yes, and it's still.
18:31 Speaker 03 And then everyone else gets a hundred between them.
18:33 Speaker 05 Yes. The odds are still against me. That's a one in three chance that I would win.
18:37 Speaker 03 Form going up at hamishdanny.com will acquire. Why do you deserve to have such a high number?
18:43 Speaker 05 Because I want a new piano. I don't know.
18:47 Speaker 03 Please, we'll have a little audio upload there. Please also add a little audio if you want as to why the piano would be important to you.
19:01 Speaker 03 Okay, we do this on last week's show. It's the final piece of the puzzle to get to land Dad a 55 inch television, an upgrade from his 20 inch television that is so annoying to watch whenever I go around there and watch the Blues play. Absolutely tiny thing.
19:18 Speaker 03 So the situation is everyone knows in a nutshell, yeah, he refuses to upgrade. I don't buy TVs. He said, I just win them. We orchestrated a fake raffle. Kid from Scouts went round, bing bang boom, he bought five tickets. Guess what? He won second prize, 55 inch TV. We celebrated. Admittedly forgot to then give him the TV or paused a few bit too long, was sort of a week. Then that was enough time for the euphoria of the win to wear off, began to grumble about the size of the TV.
19:45 Speaker 05 And he said that to me, so I knew he didn't know yet. So.
19:48 Speaker 03 So we were like, okay, great. We've got to get on to it. That's on us. He's wobbling a bit now about accepting this free TV. So he thought, we've got Liza in here again. Liza, you pretended to be the person from the raffle.
20:02 Speaker 05 Scout.
20:02 Speaker 03 The showtime, the theatrical arm of the Scouts.
20:10 Speaker 03 So now he seemed to like you a couple of weeks ago. So you call him now. You've got the, you've got the gist, Liza. You. You just call him and go, listen, we're about to deliver the TV. Great news. It's coming. Sure, you wouldn't do this, but can you just pledge to us like a scout pledge that you're not going to give away or sell the TV? Because we've had a few people do that in the past. It's a bad look for the sponsor. Sure, you're not going to do it, but do you pledge to keep the TV? As the primary TV is Andy. Primary TV in your household. And if he does that, victory.
20:42 Speaker 02 Finally.
20:43 Speaker 03 Given this man a big TV.
20:46 Speaker 05 Good luck, lads.
20:52 Speaker 06 Hello.
20:53 Speaker 07 Hello. Hi. Is this, um, Michael?
20:56 Speaker 06 It is, it is, it is.
20:58 Speaker 07 Michael, it's Denise calling on behalf of Campbell L Showtime. How are you?
21:02 Speaker 06 I'm well, I'm well. I hear I've been pranked.
21:05 Speaker 03 No.
21:08 Speaker 03 How did the cat get out of the bag?
21:13 Speaker 03 I knew. Has it gone on too long?
21:16 Speaker 06 Finn, Paul Finn here is, is, uh, he, he said, oh, how'd you do TV go? And I said, uh, you know, we're still waiting on. And he, he said, I've, I've, you've got at least one listener anyway.
21:27 Speaker 05 Who's Finn? Is that your nephew?
21:29 Speaker 06 Finn is, Finn is, Finn is the listener. I'll put him on.
21:32 Speaker 02 No, don't put him on. Who is?
21:34 Speaker 03 You don't need to out the rat.
21:36 Speaker 06 Ahoi, boys.
21:37 Speaker 02 Ahoi, you Finn.
21:39 Speaker 03 Finn, you've. We were this close to landing the big fish and you've blown this.
21:44 Speaker 06 Five days, surely the TV has landed in the small 22 inch hole in the carpet.
21:51 Speaker 03 We would, oh, you've blown the whole operation wide open. This was an international television smuggling ring smuggling into a house. And now, now we've let him wriggle away.
22:02 Speaker 02 Finn, I've not heard of you come up in conversation. Who are you?
22:06 Speaker 03 Who are you, Finn?
22:08 Speaker 06 Uh, strengthen your parents, Andy.
22:13 Speaker 06 Yeah, I'm an exercise physiologist.
22:15 Speaker 02 Oh.
22:16 Speaker 06 Pilates instructor.
22:17 Speaker 02 You're the Pilates.
22:19 Speaker 06 I'm just out here trying to do good in the world and I've committed the most heinous crime.
22:23 Speaker 03 No, it's, look, to be honest, Finn, um, we did discuss this on, on a show recently. It kind of on us, we sort of pulled off the heist, really pulled off the prank and go, yes, we've made Andy's parents accept a free television, then sort of forgot to deliver it. So it is understandable from your behalf that you would think we had actually done the rest of what we said we were gonna do.
22:46 Speaker 02 Finn, how long ago did you just tell dad? I mean, we missed it by a matter of moments.
22:50 Speaker 06 Less than an hour, gents.
22:51 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
22:53 Speaker 03 Unbelievable. And. Strengthen Ben chat, strengthen Ben chat.
22:58 Speaker 06 I saw them on Friday too, and I held my tongue and I thought, I've done the most trustworthy thing ever, not being able to blow it.
23:03 Speaker 02 Well.
23:04 Speaker 06 And I've just, just to spoil it all in the last hour.
23:06 Speaker 02 Yep. We haven't had a nemesis of this show for some time.
23:11 Speaker 03 Finn, we need you as your, as, you know, Mick's doing skaters or whatever he's doing there on the reformer bed. Um, need you to really get in his ear and go, I tell you what'd really strengthen that upper body. Lifting of 55 inch TV up onto the mantle.
23:29 Speaker 02 You can see how small it is. And when I go around there, we can't, dad wants to watch a movie or something. You can't see it.
23:35 Speaker 03 I think their core, his posture and his core is so off from leaning forward and squinting. Imagine the posture he'd have if he could just lean back, just head above the spine, nice neutral position and just watch a big TV.
23:49 Speaker 06 I don't know how his eyes cope with the strain of looking at such a small screen from so far away, to be honest.
23:54 Speaker 03 I think, I think it's, I think then there's a domino effect down to the core and that's just making your life hell.
23:59 Speaker 02 If you can make it your medical recommendation, Finn, I think that'd be something that he'd be open to.
24:05 Speaker 06 Well, my apologies, gents. I'm forever. And you're dead, I'm gonna put Mick back on.
24:10 Speaker 03 Thank you mate, well done, keep other good work.
24:13 Speaker 06 Thanks.
24:13 Speaker 03 Oh dad.
24:15 Speaker 06 Are you saying you don't like the size of our TV?
24:17 Speaker 03 No dad, can you please, can you please get a bigger one? The effort that's gone into this thing, can you please just accept the 55 inch TV?
24:26 Speaker 06 No, I can't accept the 55 inch, where are we going to put it?
24:31 Speaker 03 In the spot, it's right there. Anyway. It's very slim and it would have its own feet that it stands on and you really enjoy it.
24:39 Speaker 06 But then, how the kids go, our grandchildren gotta run around behind the couch, it'll be sticking out too far.
24:46 Speaker 03 No, anyway, anyway. They're flat, you obviously haven't had a TV in so long, they're actually flatter than you think, it's almost like magic these days.
24:57 Speaker 06 Yeah, I was wondering why poor old Brian was up so close to the TV, perhaps you can't see it enough.
25:04 Speaker 03 No one can, it's only a four pixel TV.
25:08 Speaker 03 Love you dad, we'll chat to you later on.
25:12 Speaker 03 Oh boy.
25:15 Speaker 03 Wonder if Finn wants a TV? No, he's the last guy that gets it. Can't get it.
25:26 Speaker 02 Next week, we try and break the record and we'll have a Guinness and a world record, we hope.
25:37 Speaker 03 I think we can, I mean, I just can't see it not happening.
25:40 Speaker 02 And a world record for the tallest hat worn by any person and walked 10 metres unassisted.
25:48 Speaker 03 Shatter the world record is probably more accurate, isn't it? Because I think it was just over five and a half metres, the previous record, when we started, when we scoffed at this initially and then, as people are well aware, it became a main project of the show. And instead of just going one centimetre taller, we've decided to go six metres.
26:07 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:07 Speaker 03 Nice round number. Just don't see that a lot in the high jump or the pole vault of the Olympics, you don't see someone going, okay, we're at 9.15. I'm gonna go 15.
26:19 Speaker 03 You just don't see anyone go for such a big leap, but I love that we have.
26:25 Speaker 02 We've talked about this enough for the red tape to really chase us down. You know how we like dodging admin etcetera, but.
26:32 Speaker 03 Hate it. Do you like red tape, Jack?
26:33 Speaker 02 Hate red tape.
26:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's about one of our shows mantras. Anyway, one of the, I've been a lot of risk assessments this week, guys, and I've been taking one for the team as appointed. You've been doing a risk assessment.
26:44 Speaker 02 Well, yeah, they've.
26:45 Speaker 03 We have used the phrase neck snapping a lot.
26:47 Speaker 02 Neck snapping, and that's what they're worried about. They're worried about our neck snapping and.
26:51 Speaker 03 I think at one stage catastrophic neck failure was, was mentioned.
26:57 Speaker 02 I can announce today how heavy the hat will be.
27:00 Speaker 03 Okay, we, from memory, you know, when we were testing stuff on our head, was that 15 kilos we were testing on our head, which was.
27:07 Speaker 02 Between 15 and 20 kilos.
27:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, I definitely noticed it with a 15 kilo weight plate on my head.
27:15 Speaker 02 There is disagreement in camp.
27:18 Speaker 03 Over the weight?
27:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
27:20 Speaker 03 Between who? Between the designer and the manufacturer?
27:23 Speaker 02 Yes.
27:25 Speaker 02 And it's healthy disagreement. You need this to get the best designer.
27:28 Speaker 03 You want robust discussions.
27:32 Speaker 02 The design team are adamant about the lead brim that we think.
27:38 Speaker 03 Pulling down the centre of gravity.
27:42 Speaker 02 The makers, manufacturers think it's adding too much weight.
27:46 Speaker 03 Yep.
27:47 Speaker 02 Without the lead brim, we come in at 6.1 kilos.
27:52 Speaker 03 Love that. I might jog it.
27:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:56 Speaker 02 Like, that is incredible stuff from them. They've made it super lightweight.
28:01 Speaker 03 A kilo a metre.
28:04 Speaker 02 And they've made it taper, so it's thicker at the bottom and it becomes thinner as it gets to the top.
28:10 Speaker 03 But it's not a cone shaped hat. It just means the material making the top hat look gets thinner.
28:15 Speaker 02 Correct, Jack. It's still a top hat and, and that's from top stages.
28:18 Speaker 03 Advanced composites.
28:20 Speaker 02 Yes, I should point out.
28:21 Speaker 03 Soon to be named top hat stage advanced composites.
28:25 Speaker 02 With the brim.
28:28 Speaker 02 The four kilo brim takes it tips it over a 10 kilo hat.
28:32 Speaker 03 Can we, is the brim swappable? Like a good Formula One car, you can swap out.
28:38 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah. I'll look into that, but that'll be something that we reveal next week. Are we going brim or brimless? Something for us to discuss.
28:46 Speaker 03 My, my vibe leans towards brimless.
28:49 Speaker 02 Brimless? Well, there'll still be a brim, but it just won't be a weighted brim.
28:51 Speaker 03 Sorry, we just don't need a weighted brim.
28:53 Speaker 02 Yep, yep.
28:55 Speaker 03 I think we just with six, I think with six kilos on your head, you've just got a bit more maneuverability. I think the name of the game next week, when we walk with this enormous tube on our head is to be able to make adjustments to get, you know, rapid adjustments to keep it balanced on your head.
29:11 Speaker 02 Yes, it would help me with the risk assessment because they're worried about.
29:16 Speaker 03 Get rid of it.
29:16 Speaker 02 Yep.
29:17 Speaker 03 I don't think it's a big deal.
29:18 Speaker 02 So we've spent months designing.
29:22 Speaker 03 Yes, I understand. I do think it's a big deal.
29:24 Speaker 02 The risk is that it's, it's more unbalanced. So it's going to be harder to do the 10 meter walk. Is that the, is the risk without the weight?
29:30 Speaker 03 But again, remember we had all those people writing in going, guys, remember how you can balance a broom on your finger because the weight's all at the top. It actually makes it easier to balance something when the weight is higher. And then you can't balance a pin on your finger because the center of gravity is too close to your finger.
29:48 Speaker 02 Hmm.
29:49 Speaker 03 That was, we had tons of emails like that. I've just sort of ignored them, but I, they do have a point. So I wonder if we just let the brim go if it's creating a hassle.
29:58 Speaker 02 Well, that we'll reveal that next week.
30:00 Speaker 03 So tell me now, reveal it now.
30:02 Speaker 02 Well, we've got to decide.
30:03 Speaker 03 Well, I'm deciding, let's get rid of the brim.
30:07 Speaker 03 I mean, I'm, I'm, I've got a 50% chance to be one of the hat pilots here. I just say, let me run it nice and light.
30:15 Speaker 02 Just want to see how far they've got. I can't promise anything. They're still working away. Next one. They're very worried about the taming sticks, as in the people manning them, right?
30:26 Speaker 03 Oh, I forgot about that.
30:27 Speaker 02 I'll send this through to you. The way they've been designed is incredible. I've just sent you guys a picture, so you can have a look on your side of the desk. Um, they're long sticks. They've got this cradle aspect.
30:38 Speaker 03 That's so good.
30:39 Speaker 02 We can run a little, so we can.
30:41 Speaker 03 Remember I said put sheepskin in it, put a very soft fur or something in there, so it doesn't hurt the hat?
30:46 Speaker 02 Yep. So that's, that's what we can do. We can add that. Or we can add a band, like a rubber band between what is a two-pronged fork.
30:53 Speaker 03 Yep. It kind of looks like a slingshot.
30:54 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. So we can, what, what would you prefer?
30:57 Speaker 03 Sheepskin.
30:58 Speaker 02 Okay, sheepskin it is. Carly's shaking her head because that's another thing.
31:02 Speaker 03 Or a rubber band. I mean, what, are we going to reveal that next week too? I mean, why are you asking me this stuff if I don't have a say?
31:08 Speaker 02 Sheepskin's good. The next thing I need to show you is the hat's big and it's all gonna be in one piece.
31:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, that's hats. Yeah.
31:20 Speaker 02 It's hats. So they've had to get a special truck organised to deliver the hat.
31:26 Speaker 03 I imagine it's like the truck that takes the space shuttle out to the launch pad. Or the trucks you see in North Korea.
31:33 Speaker 02 I've just sent you the.
31:33 Speaker 03 With the missiles on the back. Are you joking?
31:36 Speaker 02 What?
31:37 Speaker 03 Is that a joke?
31:37 Speaker 02 That's not a joke.
31:38 Speaker 03 That looks like AI.
31:39 Speaker 02 That is the truck that we've got.
31:41 Speaker 03 No, it's, no, but that's 18 metres long. Why? We've got a six metre hat.
31:45 Speaker 02 They, it's the truck used for drag races that they carry around drag races.
31:50 Speaker 03 This is a three, I don't even know the name of this truck, a B-triple? It's a three-trailer truck.
31:56 Speaker 02 I don't, obviously our hat only comes in one trailer, but yes.
32:00 Speaker 03 But they're just not unhitching the other two trailers?
32:02 Speaker 02 I think just for effect, they're not going to unhitch the other ones and we come in with a mass. I mean, obviously your crew travels in one part of the trailer.
32:09 Speaker 03 Yeah. And is there like a lounge or something in one of them?
32:11 Speaker 02 Backup supplies in the other one. And then where the drag racer would normally sit, our hat will come in.
32:17 Speaker 03 It's so big.
32:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:19 Speaker 03 Yeah. I mean, it's unbelievable. I don't even, this is the biggest truck I've ever seen.
32:23 Speaker 02 What's the biggest hat you'll ever see, mate?
32:24 Speaker 03 Optimus Prime would stand no chance against this truck if it was a transformer.
32:29 Speaker 02 Next thing to discuss. The guys wanted to present to us a platform that they wanted to build as well as a launch platform. They sent me a PowerPoint presentation.
32:43 Speaker 03 Yep.
32:44 Speaker 02 It was a video, but using a PowerPoint presentation.
32:46 Speaker 03 Yep. Is this so to get, because the hat has to get up.
32:50 Speaker 02 And also.
32:51 Speaker 03 Yeah. So if people can visualize this, yeah, I was gonna say you have to get the hat upright from a lying down position. That's no, that doesn't seem that simple because if I feel like there'd be a lot of people somehow to get it up delicately vertical. But yeah, then you have to raise it two meters in the air.
33:05 Speaker 02 Yep.
33:06 Speaker 03 To get a human being under it.
33:07 Speaker 02 Yes. I've taken some excerpts from the video and we can put the full video up at hamishnady.com or in any of our social pipes, but this is what they were presenting.
33:17 Speaker 06 Gentlemen, I have for your consideration a preliminary design for the launch tower.
33:25 Speaker 06 Now, every good project needs to start with the same one thing and that's a mood board. And the mood board is here to help us decide what's the vibe, what are we going for, what are we trying to achieve? And so I present to you my mood board and what we can see here is some very tall, tall holders. So on the left, we have the SLS mobile platform from NASA.
33:47 Speaker 02 That's what I was thinking.
33:48 Speaker 06 Big towering structure, lots of little arms coming out to support this very tall thing, the rocket ship. Rockets broke a lot of records. We're trying to break records. You know, there's things we can take from this and then staying with the space theme, we can see the orbital launch and integration tower from SpaceX. Similar idea, big tower, arms that come out and like support this tall object. So we take this inspiration, we're looking at platforms to hold up our tall object. So without further ado, may I present to you the launch tower?
34:20 Speaker 02 Now I've just sent that through to you guys as well.
34:22 Speaker 03 Oh my God, here we go. Yep. That's awesome. He probably shouldn't have mentioned all the SpaceX and that stuff.
34:29 Speaker 06 This looks like a, like a really tall walking frame.
34:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:32 Speaker 06 And he made it sound like it was gonna be a rocket launcher.
34:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, it's just, just wood, I think.
34:36 Speaker 03 Eight metres high though, Andy.
34:38 Speaker 02 Eight metres high. Yeah, and a platform.
34:41 Speaker 03 So does someone stand on the back and kind of hold the hat?
34:44 Speaker 02 So if we can expla-, if we try to explain it, yes, it's eight metres high, but then there's a platform behind that box.
34:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:51 Speaker 02 And, and he goes on to explain how he's done this design.
34:55 Speaker 06 Some features. Uh, it's made of like two by four timber, so easy to build. And I've had professional consultation on that one from my brother who is a carpenter. Uh, very common material, nice and cheap, but very strong. They build houses out of this stuff, so it can't be that terrible. Uh, it won't be blue, that's important to note. I just couldn't really get the wood colour, uh, in my, uh, appropriate design software, PowerPoint. Uh, and it will also include a platform at the back for an assistant, uh, to help with the hat donning and possible undoning as well.
35:26 Speaker 02 So a person stands two metres tall on the platform behind the centralised box. The wearer goes in the centralised box. The person behind lifts it up from the middle of the hat and can secure it on the head. Then the wearer will say to the, say to the assistant, yeah, I'm feeling pretty good. One tamer's down, start the walk, the assistant jumps down, also joins his taming.
35:53 Speaker 03 Also becomes a tamer.
35:55 Speaker 06 Should, should the assistant be one of us then? If, if one of you is walking, should the other one lift the hat on?
36:00 Speaker 02 The other person's a tamer. Yeah, the other person's probably putting the hat on, aren't they?
36:03 Speaker 06 Yeah.
36:04 Speaker 02 Here's why.
36:05 Speaker 06 We've also got big hogs out there, because we're using his warehouse.
36:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, great. He's tall. That'll help. The, this frame, I mean, I trust him, but is this flimsy?
36:15 Speaker 02 No.
36:15 Speaker 03 Like, it's eight metres, well, I'm looking at dimensions, there's one piece of wood that's eight metres long.
36:21 Speaker 05 I don't even know where you get a piece of wood that long.
36:23 Speaker 03 That's a bloody long bit of wood, straight up in the air with like no other supports.
36:27 Speaker 02 We'll leave it to them, they're the ones.
36:29 Speaker 03 Okay, we'll reveal next week.
36:31 Speaker 05 Yeah, maybe they're too used to carbon fibre and they know how strong that is and that now they're gonna build this wood structure.
36:36 Speaker 03 And it's very, very, very, very visual. I'm not a builder, I trust them, but I'm just looking at that going, boy, oh boy, I'll be interested to see how that comes together.
36:44 Speaker 02 The main concern from, sorry, you got a, I got, well, I got a, that's the launch tower.
36:50 Speaker 03 What about the landing tower? At the end of the 10 metres, what's gonna happen once we've got the record? What, do we just like?
36:55 Speaker 02 Just fall? I think you just gotta fall into a tamer and he catches it with a sheepskin tamer.
37:01 Speaker 03 And then you walk it back to the launch tower to get it off your head?
37:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, I think it'll come off your head. It's not, it's not like it's, we're not securing it to someone's head. If it falls, it will come off your head.
37:11 Speaker 03 Okay, but can we, would we have two towers, a launch and a landing tower?
37:17 Speaker 02 Carly says yes.
37:19 Speaker 05 I don't think that was a nod, I think that was the.
37:21 Speaker 03 Will it all be revealed? Like, will it all be revealed next week?
37:26 Speaker 03 Well, do you know what I mean? Like, it's all, this feels a bit like, um, we, you know, man on the moon, man on the moon, we're going to the moon, how are we getting home? Oh, here we go. Questions, questions McGee, always with the questions. We said we're going to the moon, leave it at that. You do need a return plan.
37:42 Speaker 02 Hmm, hmm.
37:43 Speaker 05 Cause there is, there is a risk we are going out to Hogs's factory and it's for children's books. Like, what if it falls over and knocks like?
37:50 Speaker 03 Shelves and shelves and shelves.
37:51 Speaker 05 And then a dominoes.
37:52 Speaker 02 No, I think there's space. Okay, there's space. We'll go. And then the other question we had was, do we always, say if it's, say if it falls and a tamer stops it?
38:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:03 Speaker 02 And pushes it back on and it feels secure again, do you just start your 10 metres from there and keep walking or do we always go back to the start?
38:10 Speaker 05 Gotta go back to the start.
38:11 Speaker 03 No, I think Jack's right. I think you gotta go back to the start and we wanna see, we want the video evidence of a nice, clean run, not, uh, not a, we think we did it. Cause we've got, we've got, you know, trustworthy listeners there.
38:23 Speaker 02 Yep.
38:24 Speaker 03 We want that Guinness we have after the world record to feel crisp, clean and celebratory, not with any tinge of, did we actually get it?
38:32 Speaker 02 No asterisks. Final thing.
38:34 Speaker 03 Yep.
38:35 Speaker 02 They are worried that a tamer is more, most likely to snap a neck by ferociously trying to catch the hat and push it back the other way?
38:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're not bringing tamers in off the street. These guys know what they're doing.
38:50 Speaker 02 That's what I said to them.
38:53 Speaker 05 Who were the tamers?
38:54 Speaker 02 You and I, Jack, or I mean you, are you a tamer?
38:57 Speaker 03 We understand the delicate nature of having to tame.
39:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:01 Speaker 03 We'll do some practice taming.
39:02 Speaker 02 My point is, and I've got to assure them, and I've got to write this down.
39:06 Speaker 03 Because we were talking about getting Steve Hooker and Jess Fox and Olympians that had experience with poles and or pole vaults.
39:14 Speaker 02 Yep.
39:14 Speaker 03 And flags. Did that just, was just too much organised? Or will it all be revealed next week?
39:19 Speaker 02 That'll be revealed next week.
39:21 Speaker 03 Don't hold your breath.
39:23 Speaker 02 But can we say as a three, whoever's taming catches, he's not trying to correct it.
39:29 Speaker 03 Soft hand.
39:29 Speaker 02 They're catching.
39:30 Speaker 05 Because I think as soon as it touches one of the taming poles anyway, that, that attempt is out. So it doesn't matter. Don't try and get it back on the head.
39:37 Speaker 03 Most important thing is to have the hat and neck intact.
39:40 Speaker 02 Yes.
39:40 Speaker 03 For another run.
39:41 Speaker 02 Yep. Mainly the hat.
39:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, God knows. We've got, we actually have two backup necks in the room and no backup hats.
39:55 Speaker 03 We've covered this general area before, but, um, you know, we know we, we started this game. We were younger men and it's, it's obviously going to happen that as we continue down this road and we keep podcasting and we love doing it with our audience.
40:11 Speaker 02 Oh, the game of podcasting?
40:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, the game.
40:13 Speaker 02 I thought you were speaking of a specific game. I'm like, oh, which one's he grown out of?
40:16 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no, the entertainment game, man.
40:20 Speaker 05 The boom gate.
40:21 Speaker 03 No, I introduced Sonny to that the other day. Absolutely loved it.
40:24 Speaker 05 What, ghosting?
40:26 Speaker 03 Where you just be tail someone out of a car park.
40:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:29 Speaker 03 Yeah. And he goes, there's cameras, dad. And I said, ah, God. You're the smartest kid I know, but there is still so much to teach you. And that's my absolute honour as your father. And today we learned a valuable lesson. No, the game of the entertainment game, where we're talking to our audience and, you know, we were younger men when we started. They're obviously going to age along with our audience. We've mentioned just, you know, finding a few blotches on our skin from time to time. You just go, okay, that's all people have heaps. And at some point in your life, between being 20, where you have none, and then 80, where you're quite heavily blotched.
41:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:03 Speaker 03 There's gotta be a point where the first one appears and you kind of get used to it. I'm going through a phase at the moment where I'm, unfortunately, a part of my body is morphing into my father.
41:14 Speaker 02 Oh.
41:14 Speaker 03 And I don't know why it's happening, but it clearly is happening.
41:18 Speaker 02 What part?
41:19 Speaker 03 I don't know if this is the same for you guys, but we know, we've actually documented it way back in Radio Show days, that my father has, after years of manual labour, tree trunks for fingers.
41:30 Speaker 02 Yes.
41:30 Speaker 03 Just like the thickest fingers.
41:32 Speaker 02 To the point where he couldn't, when in the first iPhone came out.
41:36 Speaker 03 Yep.
41:36 Speaker 02 It wouldn't register him. The calluses were strong.
41:40 Speaker 03 It was like you were hitting it with lumps of wood.
41:42 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:42 Speaker 03 Just when this isn't a human hand, there's no temperature, there's no softness. This is a hard, thick object.
41:50 Speaker 02 How are you gonna do that? You don't do any work.
41:52 Speaker 03 No, it's not the calluses, although.
41:54 Speaker 02 It's the thickness.
41:56 Speaker 03 I'm waking up in the morning and my fingers are puffy.
41:59 Speaker 02 Right.
42:00 Speaker 03 And it's been happening for weeks. And to the point where when you make a fist, it goes really, really white. And it's actually sometimes so puffy, it's hard to tighten the fingers back on each other.
42:10 Speaker 02 Really?
42:11 Speaker 03 Throughout the day, they, it drops off. Now, I'm not saying I have beautiful, elegant pianist's fingers or whatever. But I suppose in that way that we all notice, we all know we're gonna age and die.
42:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
42:24 Speaker 03 But secretly, we think we won't. That's just how it was other people. Like, oh God, I'd hate to be them. I've got old. I'll never be old. And I think I'd just always secretly been like, oh God, poor dad, old fat hands. That's, uh, that's, that's his cross to bear. I'll be fine forever, thankfully. Cause I'd hate to have that. And now I'm worried that my hands are beginning, maybe this is how it started, in his 40s. I'm scared to talk to you about it, cause I don't want him to go, oh yeah, you remember that? Waking up every morning, yeah, that goes for about five years, then they, then it doesn't go away during the day. And you're stuck with sausage hands for life.
43:00 Speaker 02 Mine has started in the hands as well.
43:03 Speaker 03 Maybe that's where it starts. It creeps from the outside.
43:05 Speaker 02 I wake up and it feels like very tight in the joints.
43:10 Speaker 03 That's it.
43:11 Speaker 02 And then I have to go. Like that.
43:14 Speaker 03 Powerful crack.
43:14 Speaker 02 And I'm back. I, it's like sore until I do that and then I'm away. Is that arthritis? Is that what arthritis is?
43:21 Speaker 03 I think that is.
43:22 Speaker 02 I'm not gonna ask anyone, because again, I don't want.
43:24 Speaker 03 I wanna be invincible.
43:25 Speaker 02 I don't want the confirmation.
43:27 Speaker 03 Now, Jack, you're younger than us, but this is coming.
43:29 Speaker 02 I've never looked at my hands and, yeah, and been worried about them in any way, but now I know it's right around the corner.
43:35 Speaker 03 With the part of my body, I think I was just like, that comfort, I just felt like I had a huge buffer on dad.
43:40 Speaker 02 You can rely on it.
43:41 Speaker 03 I was like, I was like, look at these beauti-, look at these beautiful slender fingers. I'm just so fine.
43:47 Speaker 02 I was the same, him, but then I'm getting this.
43:49 Speaker 03 Puffed out. I'll tell you the one area that on my mother's side, that I'm like, I've just noticed there, mommy's at this age. And I noticed this, I'm gonna generalize here, but predominantly in women, does they get a, there is an age they get to where they, and I, maybe I notice this because I spend a lot of time at coffee shops, because I drink a lot of coffee. But there is an age that it seemingly affects women more than men, get to where they must have their coffee very hot.
44:18 Speaker 02 Very hot.
44:18 Speaker 03 Yes, very hot.
44:20 Speaker 02 You know who asks this all the time?
44:21 Speaker 03 Piping hot.
44:22 Speaker 02 Glenn Robbins.
44:23 Speaker 03 Here you have it, very hot.
44:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, one, I caught up with him for a coffee and he goes, I'll have a hot chocolate, extra hot.
44:30 Speaker 03 Yes, okay, maybe it isn't just, I noticed it with my mum. Mum, so lovely. Mum, you'd all agree, a very.
44:37 Speaker 02 So lovely.
44:37 Speaker 03 Kind, lovely woman.
44:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:40 Speaker 03 The only time that facade slips is when she is ordering coffee from someone that I think maybe in the past it hasn't provided enough degrees Celsius heat.
44:53 Speaker 02 Yep.
44:54 Speaker 03 Enough kilojoules of heat in that coffee. And, and it kind of slips and it's a little bit, it's not mean, but it's very stern.
45:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, no.
45:01 Speaker 03 Piping hot. I've seen it grip someone's arm and go, piping hot. Do you?
45:07 Speaker 02 I think it's the same for fun-loving comedian Glenn Robbins. And he's obviously got heaps of scope. I mean, your mum's beautiful, but he's so, he's obviously funny as is to, you know, every, whatever his presence is.
45:16 Speaker 03 He's just a naturally funny guy.
45:18 Speaker 02 So, but he still is on the side of a spurt.
45:22 Speaker 05 It's like they've got a cold coffee in the past and it's ruined their life in some way and they can never have that experience again.
45:28 Speaker 03 Yeah. And then when, but what baffles me is when, you know, baristas or cafe, hospital people are like, yep, got it. They're like, do you understand? Very hot, more than 100 degrees, but ma'am, that's steam. Make it happen. Make it happen.
45:49 Speaker 01 Thanks for listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return next week. Catch up or contribute at hamishandandy.com.
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