322 - The Bee Farm Re-Pitch

Before making their final decision on what to do with the People’s Bitcoin, Hamish re-pitches his plan to purchase a bee farm. Andy plays a fun guessing game with the boys involving Siri. Hamish and Jack set Andy’s wedding planning challenges. Plus, Andy reveals his lawyer’s response to Hamish’s suggestion of sending out a 5-star health rating for Dimmies & Tinnies. 1. Bitcoin Ideas - The Price Is Correct 2. Andy’s Wedding Challenge 3. Siri Name Game 4. Health Star Penalties

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  Ahoy to me cuttlefish, Hamish.

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  Hello, uh, cuddle with a T or cuddlefish? Are we fictional fish?

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  No, cuddle with a T.

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  Yeah, yeah, great. Yes. I think we're invertebrates, but keep going.

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  Ahoy to me squid. Well, things in the sea.

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  I think, I think we're invertebrates. I think we're things without spines.

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  It's that, that would qualify, but it's not it.

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  Are we members of? Is there a, I don't watch, um, I haven't seen lots of SpongeBob SquarePants, but are we members of?

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  No, I'm an octopus.

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  Yeah. You're an octopus and he's a squid.

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  Yeah. And you're a cuttlefish.

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  Are we things with?

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  Which one is the cuttlefish?

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  It's chuffed in, I think we all know the bone or the cartilage that you see on the beach. Has it something to do with a sharp nose or something? Because I think they all have beaks. Do they have beaks?

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  Multiple, multiple brains or something like that. Brains in their tentacles. We've got.

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  colder.

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  Three hearts. We've all got three hearts.

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  And nine hearts beat as one in here.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. Go ahead and break one. Who cares? We've got another two to have.

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  This is why, this is why I love so wildly. Because I can be heartbroken a maximum of two times per day until I get sad.

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  Yes. Uh, so, uh, thanks for sending that one in. Also ahoy to David, uh, who went to hamishandandy.com, uh, using a very easy to use system, uh, to upload some audio of what he's been doing.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  Old guy.

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  Ahoy, Hamish and Andy. David from Houston, Texas here. I am currently.

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  End of a hike.

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  Pacing outside my wedding venue. Having arrived a full hour before the arrival time, which is a full three hours before the wedding.

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  What a day.

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  Just gave me a little bit of time to hyperventilate in peace.

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  Anyway, I'd like to just give a shout out to my sister Ellen and my nephews Luca and Raph for coming all the way from Melbourne to Texas for my wedding. Luca will be a ring bearer and Raphael will be one of our flower children.

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  I love them lots. Any words of advice for marriage? Thanks, boys. Keep up the good work.

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  Huge.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  Few notable things there. Decided not to shout out to his wife.

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  Get the feeling she's not a listener.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Yes, that's true, but I just thought that would have been in front of mine.

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  But to be thinking about your favourite podcast, I mean, I'm putting words in his mouth here, but I think we all, with all nine of our hearts, we hope in the bottom of the nine of our hearts that we are his favourite podcast. Very, shows a great presence of mind. I mean, on the biggest day, you'd be going, you know what I'm gonna do? We'll shout, little message.

• 3:08Speaker 05

  Were you guys that nervous? He seemed really nervous.

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  It sounded like he's walking around, and when I picture Texas, it's like hot and desert-like. He's sort of wandering around outside in the desert. He seemed delusional.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  Seemed like he'd been sent to a trick venue and he was in the middle of the desert at an old, like a Quentin Tarantino's, like an old tumbling down weatherboard church.

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  Were you guys nervous?

• 3:32Speaker 02

  I was nervous. As soon as I got to the venue, I got really nervous. That matches David.

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  You were there, Andy. I was absolutely cool as a cucumber.

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  No.

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  We had a guy playing acoustic guitar. I mean, if you remember correctly, I said, hey, chuck us the axe and I'll play a few.

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  Why don't I play a couple of songs for everyone?

• 3:50Speaker 02

  I think you were more nervous because Hamish did a magic show instead of a wedding dance.

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  Yep.

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  And Zoe was the assistant and...

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  She was nervous about the show.

• 4:00Speaker 05

  So, yeah, you weren't nervous about the vows or the ceremony?

• 4:04Speaker 03

  We had a lot of flies. We had an outside wedding in the Blue Mountains and so there was tons of flies and I was slightly nervous about that because annoyingly, I do just seem to have the ver- ceremony that flies are attracted to and it does give off the impression...

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  That you stink.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  That I'm a garbage boy.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  Unfair, I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm always in pristine condition, but on your wedding, I had obviously showered. I showered and I thought I'd, you know, I thought I'd done, I was at the height of really, you know, top point one percent of how you'll ever find me groomed. And yet I still seem to be a fly magnet and that did seem to be unfair.

• 4:44Speaker 05

  Is that your memory of the nuptials that he was stinky?

• 4:46Speaker 02

  No, no, he was looking as clean as I've seen.

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  Good as it gets, yeah, as good as it gets.

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  And I don't remember a fly issue, so.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  A lot of flies, god, there's so many flies. Zo got them caught under the veil. That was the bad thing, Mike, because they got inside the flywire, which is essentially what veil is.

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  Yes.

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  Oh, she had great, I'm not saying she skimped and did flywire.

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  But she, but she should have been most protected.

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  She should have been most protected and unfortunately it got under, not unlike the mesh a beekeeper wears.

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  No.

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  Now I know you want to move on, I know you want to move on.

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  Okay.

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  But I must bring up beekeeping.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Let's just bring these people up to speed.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  I'm not talking about being a flykeeper. I don't want to keep, that's how ironic, flies flock to me, yet I don't seek to farm them, but I do wish to get their honey producing cousins to be.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Um, you, uh, we recovered our bitcoin.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  That we lost when it was at seventeen hundred dollars or something and now it's recovered and it's close to a hundred thousand dollars now. And one of them is for the people. We've got to spend a hundred thousand dollars on the people.

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  That's if we spend it today, unless, if we let it keep climbing, that's, you know.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  It's been dipping.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  But yeah, it hasn't been going great.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Um, and you suggested us starting a bee operation.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Well, it came from a, really a chance conversation that we had, Jack. And, but I think, and I think this happens a lot nowadays, we had, we had a kind of an offhand conversation and I had been thinking, wouldn't it be great if we could reinvest it in a venture? And then we bought up, we're talking about manuka honey before going and I was like, that's right, manuka is an absolute jackpot. It really is liquid gold. The price people are selling manuka honey for, you know, it's three, four hundred dollars a jar. This stuff is, this is where the cash is at.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  Well, I heard from my next door neighbor who'd listened to the pod, Jezza, he texts me.

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  And he's a beekeeper.

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  Yeah, he's a beekeeper.

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  But he, he's a hobby boy.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 6:37Speaker 03

  No, he's not.

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  Is he?

• 6:39Speaker 03

  Well, he's not one of the names I've heard floating around the bee community because I have actually had my ear to the ground and the hives and I've got quite a bit of buzz from the bee world. What's he say?

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  Is he selling?

• 6:47Speaker 03

  He said, Hame's wrong.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  He said, if you wanted to go from no hives to 120 hives, it'd be well over $60,000 needs just equipment alone. As far as manuka goes, it's one of like 170 varieties of tea tree. We actually have more of it in Australia than New Zealand. Just New Zealand are better at carrying on about.

• 7:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's why we want to do it there. Most of the, most of the honey game is marketing.

• 7:12Speaker 05

  That says to me, open market. See, that, that fact alone has kind of swayed me a little bit.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Here's the hard part.

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  Well, you can't force the bees onto that.

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  Manuka, manuka only flowers once a year, he says.

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  Flowers a bit more in New Zealand.

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  And not, not much around. You have to truck the bees to that.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Yep.

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  But then keep them alive for the rest of the year.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  Doesn't know what he's talking about.

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  Tell him not to bother.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  Yep. Well, that's not the information I got.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  There is okay money in bees. If you want to work hard, doesn't sound like him.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 7:42Speaker 05

  That's classic gatekeeping.

• 7:44Speaker 03

  Isn't it? So he's, oh mate, don't come to Cuba P D. It's, we're all out of opals. Really, really. Why, why is everyone flocking there?

• 7:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  Now you listen to me, Ando. I've done a little bit more than talk to my neighbour. I've had several nights on the couch with Zo going, are you looking at bee, are you researching beekeeping again? Okay. So that's what I'm talking about here. Not just one chat with a neighbour. The way manuka honey works is, and bear in mind that what I'm proposing to you guys is a premium, raw, organic, high country alpine, single origin honey operation.

• 8:19Speaker 05

  Manuka?

• 8:20Speaker 03

  There would be manuka, but we'd have three lines. We'd have wildflower. We'd have thyme or some other plant. And then our big, our high price point would be manuka.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  How do you get to be just go to the time?

• 8:33Speaker 03

  It just depends where you put the hives. You scatter them around. You've got to put them near the flower. Cause you can't, you can't take a bee and squash it onto a flower and go eat that and put them back in the hive. We can, but that seems labour intensive and a bit mean to the bees. And we don't know if that would work.

• 8:46Speaker 05

  And it takes, doesn't it take like thousands and thousands of bees to make a teaspoon of honey? So if we were tracking each bee and trying to use tweezers to put it on the right flower, that's.

• 8:56Speaker 03

  No, again, I'm saying that's not the operation we're doing. And again, this is what our head beekeeper would do. Okay. Now, I know you've got other ideas, but I'm just saying. Are you sure you don't want to start a bee operation? Because I have put the feelers out into the world for some hot up and coming beekeepers. And I mean like renegades, beekeepers with a buzz, real buzz about them, breaking the rules. Not neighbors that keep it for a bit of fun.

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  No.

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  Real big names in the bee scene.

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  Got a commercial operation.

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  Real big names in the base.

• 9:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 9:30Speaker 05

  But it sounded like he was wasting time. Tell me if you thought the same, when he said, oh, you've got to truck your bees over to the manuka plant. We would just build the manuka plants, we would grow the manuka plants.

• 9:42Speaker 05

  We would build the avaries, avaries, apories.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  The hives.

• 9:45Speaker 05

  Hives near the manuka.

• 9:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, you put them, you, you, that's where you lease it. Anyway, I've got the numbers. I'm just saying, I think it would be negligent of me, after all the research I've done on premium beekeeping operations, to not offer you this opportunity to invest this money we have in Hame's Honest Honey or Hame's Bees or Hame's Hives, whatever we want to call it.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  Well, can Jack and I agree to take this on board, what you're going to present?

• 10:12Speaker 05

  Well, definitely.

• 10:13Speaker 03

  That's the presentation.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, but then from the outcome of a vote at the end of this determines whether we ever talk about bees again.

• 10:21Speaker 03

  Great.

• 10:23Speaker 03

  Okay, you're upsetting the king bee.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  Which I don't think is a powerful spot.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  No, there is no such thing as a king bee. It's all the girls. They're all women. Except for the drones. But I do think, should we choose to go forth with this, it could be a bloody exciting adventure. And by the third or fourth year, when it's profitable, that's when the real money starts raining down.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 10:48Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  More or less.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Okay, all those in favor of starting this, this single origin alpine, exciting, disruptive bee enterprise, raw honey, single origin alpine honey enterprise, say buzz, buzz.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  Unbelievable. Couple of sad bees outside. Heard the groans through the through the soundproof window. We've actually never heard a noise through the soundproof window.

• 11:15Speaker 05

  I don't know why they're sad. All the work of the bee operation would be lumped on you, Carly.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  No, it wouldn't, Carl. It would be on the head beekeeper. You might have a bit to do with finding a location for our honey house. That's where you bring the bee. That's where you bring the honey to.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  So it's a note from Jack and I, and we're putting a line through that.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Sorry, just on the, I know we're not mentioning bees anymore.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 11:34Speaker 03

  But we did have someone, do you remember when my dad told me his dream, which was to run a medium sized commercial duck farm, no more than 200 head of duck.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  About large breasted ducks for eating, not purving. But he, he knew of a French species of duck. It was a large breasted mallard, I think.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  Not a coot.

• 11:56Speaker 03

  Would we do that?

• 11:57Speaker 02

  Would we do that?

• 11:58Speaker 05

  Why do we want animals? There's so much work involved.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  We, I just think you look at, you know, AI is not taking over agriculture anytime soon. So we invest our money wisely in bees or ducks. And then, then you use the profits there to shower it upon the people every year. Guys with the duck money, we're flying you to New York.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  Don't think so. Not for me. There's one idea from last week that's really resonated with me. And I think it is a two, what you mentioned two stages, Jack.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  I think this could be a two stage thing. I'm seeing if Hame can buy his way out of his addiction to impulse buying. Interest me. Can we end up with all this stuff?

• 12:39Speaker 03

  You'd have a lot of stuff.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  Lots of stuff.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  I think, to be fair, I said 24 hours. I was like, in 24 hours, I could spend a hundred grand. I could really do it in an hour, to be honest.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I, yeah, if you didn't have to go through the checkout and stuff, if you're just, if you're just saying buy that, buy that, buy that, you could easily do it in an hour.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  Even checking out. I mean, that's really only 20 things worth $5,000. I could do one thing every three minutes, I reckon.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  So what I was thinking is we put 60 grand in Hame's bucket.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  What are you doing with the other 40?

• 13:09Speaker 02

  I think we hold a game show. Similar to the Price is Right, we could even use old sets and invite all our listeners to come and play for the chance to win from Hamish Blake Impulse by showcase.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  So I'm buying the showcase.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  You buy the showcase, you can then be Adriana Exenides or the person that sits by the showcase and explains every item as people come and play for it in different games. We can invent our own game show, we could just try and get the old sets of Wheel of Fortune and play that with Hamish.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Is Wheel of Fortune over? Is Price is Right, that's gone, isn't it?

• 13:40Speaker 02

  They're both gone. We could, we could do a weird hybrid. We'll try and get the sets of both of them.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  Wheel of Price.

• 13:48Speaker 05

  Price of Right, Price is Right had the better games than Wheel of Fortune, I think.

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it was also the, the guessing of the price of the things was exciting and to have Hamish's showcase.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  And these would be way better. I mean, Price is Right was like a microwave.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  This is way better than Price. Now it could be robot shoes.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  In case we can't use the, the, the name Price is Right.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  We could have a similar type game but different enough.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Um, okay.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  I guess the difference is we don't make any future money like we would with the ducks or bees, possibly.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  Looks like someone's coming back on board with the bees. Um, what would stop me from buying $60,000 worth of hives and associated?

• 14:41Speaker 03

  I've made my purchases. Come on in, boys.

• 14:46Speaker 02

  Helen, come on down. Yeah, what would you like?

• 14:49Speaker 03

  I think I want that $12,000 canning machine. Yes. Very good. I want the jar sterilizing unit.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  It's actually worse than having the operation because then all our equipment is dispersed.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, setting up like 10 other people to steal our operation.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  No good, Ando. Do you want to look into if those sets exist?

• 15:13Speaker 02

  I'll look into the rights.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  Well, just, I mean, it won't be a next week thing. Give us a few months. Let's just, but what we should do.

• 15:20Speaker 05

  But you can find out quickly if this Price is Right set exists.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:24Speaker 05

  Somewhere backstage.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Yes. I could, I could, we can find that out.

• 15:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then if we do like this idea, we'll confirm. I do like the idea of setting a date for Hame to do the buying.

• 15:35Speaker 03

  And to host the game show and then you get, you know, we can get like a few hundred people to come to the game show.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Oh, people can register. Yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Because it will be, whatever the format we go with, it's got to be that you get picked out of the crowd. We definitely want Come On Down.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, we definitely want Come On Down. But again, if we're not allowed to say that, Cat.

• 15:50Speaker 03

  You're allowed to say Come On Down.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  Well, maybe not. It might.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  Get on down here.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  It might be Get on Down Here. It might be ours. Get on down here.

• 15:59Speaker 03

  The price is correct.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Now, Ando, um.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  Am I allowed to, uh, tell the people of the people's show that, um, it looks officially like there will be a royal wedding this year?

• 16:20Speaker 02

  A royal wedding?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Yes, Bec and I have got our act together. And mark my words, we will be married by the end of the year.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  By the time the government mandated break rolls around again, there'll be three married men in here, all things going well.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  I don't know, they've had an ominous jinxing to it.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  It's the kind of thing that Marcy goes, hey, mate, I've got this clip.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Jackson had divorce. I've got this hilarious clip from March 12th.

• 16:53Speaker 03

  Hey, you didn't know. You had no idea. You had no idea about Bianca's secret family.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Funny about that. You don't hear about secret families on the wife's side of things too often, do you?

• 17:03Speaker 02

  No, the secret family was definitely a.

• 17:06Speaker 03

  Secret family is definitely a male.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Hard for them to keep it a secret for nine months.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  She's been carrying that basket of washing around for a while.

• 17:16Speaker 03

  Must remember to hang this out. Must remember to hang this out. Um, okay, Ando, big, big news because over the break, um, the invitations came out.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:26Speaker 03

  And Jack, did you receive one?

• 17:29Speaker 05

  Well, I've got to, I've got to save the date.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  That was the invitation.

• 17:32Speaker 05

  That's the, yeah, I thought so. Because you don't send the save the date without following up.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  With an invitation. So the date is saved. We are expecting to go. Yes. Thank you. Okay.

• 17:41Speaker 05

  Triumph for Jack.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  I was like, is that a power move, Andy, that you've gone, congratulations, you are in the top 200? So save the date and you will get, you will be informed if you've made the next round. Here's, here's something that was pointed out to me.

• 17:54Speaker 05

  Jack did say to me, we caught up and he goes, did you only invite me? Cause I pointed at you on the podcast and said, I better be invited to your wedding aggressively. And I said, no, I'll never know for sure. Yep.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  Well, now, well, that is in your head now, Jack. You should have been a bit more gracious about it because it's actually a tight list. I know for a fact it's a tight wedding list. So.

• 18:19Speaker 05

  How many head?

• 18:20Speaker 03

  How many head or guest you're running?

• 18:24Speaker 05

  We have got 80.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 18:28Speaker 05

  Okay. Eighty total.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Oh, you're not happy with that?

• 18:30Speaker 05

  No, no, I thought that, that is a number that I would have been, if there was 80 people going and I wasn't part of that, I would have, I would have.

• 18:37Speaker 03

  So what, what number would you have been surprised to be invited?

• 18:40Speaker 05

  If I said 40.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  What band? 10 to 20, 20 to 40, 40, 50. What band of person?

• 18:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. If you said there's only 30 people coming, I think, oh, Andy's got a big family. I can't believe I made the top 30. That feels special.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Top 40?

• 18:55Speaker 05

  Top, top 50 I would expect. Top 40. Top 40, I wouldn't throw the toys out of the car on the podcast, but top 50, I would start to, you would notice a slump in my behaviour on the show.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  Well, I would love, I would love that Jack's only gonna perform on the show if he's assured of a good table. Um, I'd like you to wear, get made and wear a golden brooch with the number that you think you fit.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  Like how Donald Trump has the 45 hat.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  And it could be your number, that could be your number. Um, Ando, on the invite that you sent out.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Great suggestion.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Everyone bring, everyone where the number rank they think they are.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  It would be an interesting social game to play. And then as you're there, you're like, oh my God, look at him, he thinks he's top 10.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  Basically, I mean, we're meant to be there for love, but again, kind of his traitors.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  We'll find out. Um, on the, on the invite, Ando, you sent out, and this was, um, brought to my attention by another guest. The website where people could go to RSVP. There's no, um, like you don't have to, you don't have to put in a certain code or you don't have to put your email address. It's just open. Like anyone can go to that website. And it was pointed out to me by a friend of yours going, surely you can just start doing some random RSVPs here. And they go like, why don't you just RSVP from Dave Abbott? And just, and just say, yeah, he's going along. Has anyone done any joke RSVPs?

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Dave Abbott was the, the high school bully.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Is that why that name came up?

• 20:37Speaker 03

  Well, you tell me, mate, because I didn't know, I wasn't aware of Dave Abbott until this was given to me. But would you have been shocked to see Dave Abbott plus one RSVP?

• 20:45Speaker 02

  I would have been shocked to see Dave Abbott, yeah, plus one.

• 20:49Speaker 03

  He's not sub 80, is he?

• 20:50Speaker 02

  No, he's, he's high. He's broach, you need a wide broach.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  For how long the number is.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Um, well, I, well, I just sort of alert you to that.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Seen him.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  Security floor, he's fine, it's all sorted. We're all, we're all square with our high school bullies now that happens. Happens in your 30s.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Yes, true. But that was why for those that did actually get on an RSVP, there will be a secondary website coming, which is coded using the email.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Beef up your security.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Are you just saying that now or you had already thought of a secondary website? Because otherwise you have to guess what people's email they're going to use to put in to code it.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're right. So now they have to, you know, give you that information first. On the actual wedding front, speaking of, you know, brochures and stuff, have you let Jack know about his groomsmen duties?

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Not required to tell him, mate.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Come on, if you're a groomsmen or I don't mind about that because I wouldn't, I would never expect.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  I am and of course you're not.

• 21:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, and that's, I'm not surprised.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  You can't expect to be a groomsmen.

• 22:02Speaker 05

  I'm saying I'm not surprised.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Wow, mate.

• 22:07Speaker 05

  I'm surprised, I'm not shocked that you are, but I don't think you were, I don't think you were a hundred percent.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  I can safely say, because I don't want to see a slump in your.

• 22:20Speaker 03

  I'll be wearing a number one badge.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  Nah, Hame was very locked in.

• 22:25Speaker 05

  But it could have been, it's good you've been your brother and say your brother in law or something.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  Oh, my brother's in there. It's not like, it's not like I've just gone Hame and said to my brother.

• 22:33Speaker 03

  Sorry, Cam, I would have, I would have loved to see more out of you over the.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Whole life we've known each other. I know Cam's in there.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Cam's in.

• 22:39Speaker 05

  How many groomsmen you're running?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Three.

• 22:41Speaker 05

  Running. See, that's, that's good that you should be proud of that.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Big hauls.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  Very proud.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Cam, Hame, tall groomsmen. I'm the.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  Very tall.

• 22:50Speaker 05

  Hmm. Are you gonna put them, are you gonna put yourself on a different platform to them?

• 22:54Speaker 02

  I'm gonna wear a platform shoe.

• 22:55Speaker 03

  You're gonna wear a plinth. Well, Zo mentioned, uh, the other day, she goes, is Andy buying you suits?

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Great. Could, could I have a Tom Ford suit?

• 23:08Speaker 02

  No, we're not doing requests.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Because I think there's not many of us.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  We would like premium.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, it'll be premium.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  Great. Does that bother you, Jack, knowing I'm getting a free suit for the wedding?

• 23:24Speaker 05

  Nah, nah, it doesn't, it doesn't, but like it would, and I don't, no, I don't even want to say like, it would be cool if you bought the whole guest.

• 23:35Speaker 05

  Cause I don't want to say that.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Wouldn't be cool. Everyone's going, eight, forty men, forty suits.

• 23:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, that is, that's ridiculous. Yeah. It would just be a cool, it wouldn't be a cool thing to say is like, oh, you know how some people buy their groomsmen suits? Andy Lee's wedding, every man got a suit.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  You already had a black one, you got to choose another suit.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  I don't know. I don't know if it's just the fact that people are saying that is worth the, you know, thirty to forty thousand dollars.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  Give her on a free suit. Um, all right. Well, I've got a lot of ideas, Andy. I've got a lot of ideas. We, uh, someone actually raised this point. They said, oh, remember you once said that, because we were talking about the Twisties factory. I'm at, went back when we made the people's chip with Smiths, who also make Twisties. They were like, I said, oh, you haven't lived till you've tasted the hot twisting of the production line.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  And we never went.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  And I think I said I'd take you for your bucks.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  To the Twisties factory. It was on like episode 10 of the podcast.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  I'd take Andy to the, to the Twisties factory for his bucks.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Well, that's, yeah, keep your promises.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  Well, we're, we're talking about something else.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  If that's okay with you.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have got other interests now as we get a bit older. Gulf for it.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  If, if that is okay with you. But I've got a lot of ideas, got a lot of ideas.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  Just speaking, I mean, going back to the brooch idea that you just had here, which I think's great for people to put in a number of what they thought. We are going through the wedding planning at the moment. I know Beck doesn't listen to the podcast and I'd appreciate everyone listening to keep this storm.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Well, here's how I know you're going through the wedding planning, because Andy sent me a text not too long ago going, mate, how often do you watch your wedding video? Like, is it worth it? I don't know. All right, here he goes. Cutting costs on a wedding video for sure. He's got a huge quote, obviously.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Do you, do you? We have literally never watched it. Have you ever watched yours?

• 25:26Speaker 03

  Once.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. See, I don't think it's there.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  We, we've said many times, and we should watch the wedding video and we never do.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Nah, nah.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  I could just, I could just tell Andy had the red pen out.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:38Speaker 03

  I was like, he's in a finance meeting here with the wedding planner and he's going, cut, cut, cut.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  There's a lot of planning going on in the moment. Beck and I have to catch up regularly with the planner. I find it a little boring. So I was just thinking, as a challenge to you both, fresh off the brooch idea. Could you come to me with three ideas? Each at different levels of difficulty. So you got a one point idea, a two point idea, a three point idea.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  For things we want to say at the wedding or just think of good ideas.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  For a wedding and I will record secretly, record the wedding planning with Beck and I'll, or just with conversation with Beck and I'll bring them up.

• 26:14Speaker 03

  You have to sell them in though.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  I'll sell them in.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  And if.

• 26:18Speaker 03

  Say, say it was the brooch one, how would you sell that in?

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Okay. Okay, you know what could be fun Beck? It's like, we get everyone a brooch and they have to write down how close they are out of the 80 guests, what number close of friendship they are. So it's a conversation starter.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  It's a great icebreaker.

• 26:37Speaker 02

  Icebreaker. And then, yeah, so that'd be the level. And then we'll just see Beck's reactions. If, how would you pitch to her? I want to buy every man a suit.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Wow, well, you didn't want to buy, you didn't want to buy our wedding video. Why does everyone, what do the women get?

• 26:55Speaker 02

  That's going to be tiresome.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  So the women get shoes?

• 26:59Speaker 02

  If that's your choi- choice. No, let me have a thing, let me have a thing. Okay, so next week on the pod.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  Oh my God, what jokes are gonna be?

• 27:05Speaker 02

  You guys have to present me three ideas, varying of difficulty, one, two, three. And it'll be a game between the two of you. See, obviously the biggest score you can get is six. And I'll run them into the wedding planning.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  All right, done, done.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  I'm watching the Olympics, Winter Olympics recently. You do find a lot of commentators that haven't done much Winter Olympic work in the lead up. Todd Woodbridge would be one, you would say, probably more known for his tennis.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  That suddenly has to try and pronounce names that they're not regularly used to using.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  It's impressive. It's why, on top of not being asked, it's why I, you could never do it.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Could never do the job.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Well, you'd have the problem of not recognizing the person as well as not being able to say their name.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  It'd be the most offensive coverage of all time. I'd be there, you know, apart from Scotty James. I'd just go, I would just not be confident with anyone else.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  The everyman version of that now I've realized in our lives is when we ask Siri to call someone. And she looks through your phone, an Apple CarPlay, whatever, and says, now calling said person. And says it with the confidence that they, she knows what she's talking about, even though she mispronounces the surnames or first names.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  It does. There are some clangers sometimes, which surprised me because I thought sometimes she gets difficult names correct.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Yes, sometimes difficult names are easy. Like Darcy here is, is married to Jane McKinley. And she, and Siri calls her McInley. And I'm like, that one seemed straightforward. That was an easy.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  That one. My mom is still in my phone as KBO because that's just what everyone calls her. And now, but she, that's fine. Siri is not meant to know that, but she calls her KBO. And now I, when I want to call my mom, I'll just go call KBO.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  KBO, yeah, it sounds like you're calling her accounting firm.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's just, it's just easier if I speak her language rather than getting her to catch up to me.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Well, I've turned it into a game today.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Here we go. You guys, you verse each other. I'm going to give you a name from the contacts. You've got to try and predict how Siri will say it.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Right.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  I have thrown some in there that she's got right. So don't miss.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Okay, these aren't all clangers from her.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  These aren't all clangers. So are you ready to go?

• 29:27Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Let's jump into it. The first name, Adam Rosenbachs, very good comedian writer. Adam Rosenbachs, surname spelt R O Z E N B A C H S. Jack, you're served first. How big is Siri's gonna say Adam Rosenbach?

• 29:45Speaker 05

  I think with the C H on the end, she's gone Adam Rosenbatches.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  I, I mean, I've, Siri handles CHs in my experience. Oh no, I've got to stop saying that word because every, like my iPad, my phone is all.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  She has handled. Like I've got a friend whose last name is Locke, L O C H, no dramas there.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Really?

• 30:10Speaker 03

  So I reckon it's Rosen. I reckon she goes Rosen.

• 30:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Rosenbach.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  You're going.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Do I want batches? No, I'll just go Rosen, Rosen, Rosenbachs.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Rosenbach. Let's, let's see. Siri, hey Siri, please call Adam Rosenbachs.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  Calling Adam Rosenbach.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  I'm gonna have to give that one.

• 30:34Speaker 03

  Hang on, but do you have the S on it though?

• 30:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, it does have an S on it.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  And she just didn't say the S?

• 30:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 30:40Speaker 05

  The S is silent to her.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Bring me for a loop.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  That is early points to Jack. Second one is Elliot Garneau. Ex stylist and friend Elliot Garneau, spelt G A R N A U T.

• 31:02Speaker 03

  Garnot for sure.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  Amy, what are you going with?

• 31:06Speaker 03

  Gun out, yeah.

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Oh, he's changed it from now to naught?

• 31:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, but she's, she's gonna pronounce the T for sure.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  Okay, so you're now or naught?

• 31:13Speaker 03

  Big money, now.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  I'll go naught.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Let's have a look. Hey Siri, please call Elliot Garneau.

• 31:22Speaker 00

  Calling Elliot Garnot.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  He's got it again.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  Jack scooped in with my good ideas and just crumbed it. Well done.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Next one, not in my contacts, but I thought I'd put it in just to see how she said. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  We all know Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's spelt S-C-H-W-R-A-Z-E-N-E-G-E-R. Jack, you've got the serve.

• 31:55Speaker 05

  Okay, I think she's struggling with the C-H. We know. Arnold Squatzenegger.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  I think she gets it right. Schwarzenegger, maybe. Like, maybe it adds a bit more of a, one more syllable in there.

• 32:10Speaker 05

  Okay. Hey Siri, please call Arnold Schwarzenegger.

• 32:15Speaker 06

  Calling Arnold Schwarzenegger.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  I'm gonna give it to Hain.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  Careful, Siri.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, that one's a bit, a bit dicey.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  What's next, Ando?

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, we have to move on. Next one. Walid Ali.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  I'm sure.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Hamish Goldlogi winning presenter. Walid Ali.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  Is it A-L-Y, isn't it? A-L-Y.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  It's spelt A-L-Y. Hamish got the serve.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go Ali.

• 32:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, I like that.

• 32:53Speaker 05

  I'm gonna say she gets Ali right, but Walid. She trips on Walid and says, Walled.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Hey Siri, call Walid Ali.

• 33:08Speaker 06

  Calling Walid Ali.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Oh, he's pretty close. Give it to him.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  Hain is back to all. Neck and neck. Neck and neck. Well done, you two. Next person is Liza out there. If it works, rest.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, okay, that is.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Liza Altarejos.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  Altarejos, Spanish.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  It's spelt A-L-T-A-R-E-J-O-S.

• 33:33Speaker 05

  Well, I've been saying it wrong if I must put my hand up.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  Not just the robots that have trouble.

• 33:40Speaker 05

  How do you know we'd say it, Jake? I would have said Liza Altagirós.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Yep. Sounds like you can get a lamb on a spit.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  Okay, that's, that's, that's his guess.

• 33:50Speaker 05

  I'll just get the Liza Altagirós extra galaxi, please.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  I'll say Alterejos.

• 33:55Speaker 05

  Alterejos.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  Alterejos, yep.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Okay. Siri, please call, call Liza.

• 34:03Speaker 03

  You've forgotten how to say it probably, haven't you?

• 34:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 34:06Speaker 05

  If you've only got one lieser in your phone, that's acceptable. Problem.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  Alterios, Andy.

• 34:13Speaker 06

  Calling lies or alterages?

• 34:15Speaker 03

  Alterages.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  No points.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  Then you Solomon alterages take you higher.

• 34:23Speaker 05

  Terrible attempt. Alterages.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Yep. So no points there. We remain locked.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Jack has the serve.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Jack Post is the name. Spelt P O S T.

• 34:41Speaker 05

  Oh my God, Andy's calling me.

• 34:44Speaker 05

  I think only because she said she gets it right sometimes and we haven't heard any right that she gets me right.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  Okay. Same.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  For some reason you're in my phone. This would really upset Andy. I know she can say Jack Post. But you're in my phone, Jack. I must have just, back in the day, filing error. You're in there as Jack Post Post. So your first name is Jack Post and your last name is Post. And so you're always listed as Jack Post Post. So she'll always call Jack Post Post for me, but I don't think she'd say that for your phone, Andy. So I can't just say the same as Jack, can I?

• 35:23Speaker 05

  We just go everything else then.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  I'll take all others.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Siri, call Jack Post.

• 35:31Speaker 06

  Calling the weasel.

• 35:35Speaker 05

  The victory.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Incredible.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Hey, I'm not sure if you saw this on your side of the fence of emails. Hit us at hamishnanny.com for any queries you might have. 50% go to H, 50% go to me. A lot of people saying the government is pushing for every single product to have a health star rating. That was a big push over the summer. They didn't, they didn't want to have the choose to play option.

• 36:03Speaker 03

  It does make it, it does make sense to go if you've got, if some people are getting scored, you know, we've, I mean, we've been saying it for years, Andy.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Second half.

• 36:13Speaker 03

  Who is monitoring this?

• 36:15Speaker 02

  Exactly. So second last show of last year.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  We revealed how it is, it's self-regulated, you put in your own ingredients on a website. We did it for Dimmies and Tinnies.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  And we got a, the star rating.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Yep. And you can tweak the, not that we are suggesting anyone has done this. I mean, I'm, I'm wondering if Andy has, but not, we're not suggesting any other proper food companies have done this. But if you wanted to, you could just go, okay, well, what if I say it's got half as much salt? What do I get for that?

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  And then you could just go, oh God, okay, yeah, it's got a lot of fat in it.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  You can make up your own thing.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  I'll just say it's not saturated fat. What about that? And then you, you could boost your star rating up and then it would be up to someone else to call foul on you. I assume to get the star police to audit you to go, that's not right.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  And you suggested I do this for Dimmies and Tinnies. This was last year, Ham.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  I said, why not have, I mean, no.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Send one out at five stars, see if you get a complaint.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Right?

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Did you do that?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  So.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  So I said, hey guys, we love tomfoolery.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  Which is the.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  So.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Casual name for fraud.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  Lots of bit of tomfoolery. Can we send out a pack of Dimmies and Tinnies? There's two flavors. Pick one of them, whether it's a, by the way, the chicken and sweet, the chicken and corn survived.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Oh yes, it was on the chopping block.

• 37:42Speaker 03

  It was, it survived.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  But spicy pork, let's just call one of them five stars, send them out there, we'll see if we get a complaint.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Two six stars.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  He's making it look like an amazing fridge.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  To which one of my business partners in it said, hey, great, I'll check with the lawyers. And I was like, no, no.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  They're not into tomfoolery.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  They're the biggest tomfoolery killers of all time.

• 38:06Speaker 03

  Exactly. There's so little tomfoolery you can have these days.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  What if there's a penalty, you know, it won't be that bad.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  Like what are they going to do?

• 38:16Speaker 02

  Exactly. Anyway, he has sent me the lawyer's letter and so I've got it here for you today.

• 38:24Speaker 03

  I'm not expecting a, yeah, this sounds bloody funny, let's do it.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  I get it, guys.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  This is a terrible idea. Now, what does he mean by that?

• 38:35Speaker 03

  No, no, no, that's just a value judgment. That's not an answer.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  At the very least, this would amount to a contravention, section 29 of the Australian Consumer Law, ACL, which can attract, I don't know this word, pecunary penalties?

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Just doesn't sound good.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  If you're prosecuted by the ACC.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  29, false or misleading representation of goods or services. A person must not make false or misleading representation of goods or services.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it, we get it. Sure, that's the guideline.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  So I'm skipping.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  We all know what we're going, name one area you can have tomfoolery if you follow the rules. This is what I mean. You get charged with this stuff. You can plead to the judge to get it downgraded to tomfoolery. You just have to be able to.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  You have to be able to.

• 39:17Speaker 03

  What kind of a country are you living in when you can't get fraud?

• 39:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Pled down to tomfoolery, garden variety tomfoolery.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  So I said, I'm just like, God, it was long, it was long. I'm like, okay, you just tell us what the fine is. If it's a slap on the wrist, 1300 bucks.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Where are you getting that from? Mobile phone using your car.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  It's still about that.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  I got to the section, if prosecuted, the maximum penalty for corporations is the greater of.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Which I don't like. I never, as soon as you say greater, 50 million dollar fine.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Wow. It's the greater of 50 million.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Or 100 million.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Or three times the value of the reasonably attributed benefit obtained from the contact, which I wouldn't say.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  The greater of.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  It's the greater of. So add a minimum of 50 million dollar fine.

• 40:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  But if they can prove that you made another 20 million, which we'd not.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  Unless you sold 200 million dim fins. Everyone was like, mate, have you heard about these five star dim fins? A billion sold.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  In which case you would be then up for a billion dollars.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or 30% of the company's adjusted annual turnover during the breach period.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  Got to think about who's writing these laws. You can't make it tempting. The law can't be if caught, you know, a third time, the company must run a specified gauntlet in under one minute. And if the company director makes it, then he's allowed to have three more breaches of the law. Like, you can't make it exciting. You have to make it prohibitive.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  I know. Annoying though. For an individual involved.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  The law is the least fun. The law is one of the least fun topics in the world.

• 41:04Speaker 02

  For an individual involved, they are exposed to a maximum penalty of $2.5 million fine. That goes to the individual and he would definitely be exposed, given the fact that he and Hamish have talked about it.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  Yep. We do have a recording of it.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  That also doesn't take into account damages that may be attributed for people that have bought it and deciding to sue that they didn't get the nutrition.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  I've been eating nothing but this and I've put on weight.

• 41:34Speaker 03

  Look mate, I mean, you don't even need to keep reading. This is one of those ones where you go, it's very clear from the outset that you're not, you guys aren't seeing the joke here. Very clear.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  So, anyway, we'll do it.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Anyway, we did do it. It went really well. People absolutely loving it. What was yours anyway? You were a three star.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Three and a half. Three and a half, I think we came back with. Yeah.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  Think you came at three and a half when I tweaked it.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  I think we went off that as the rule.

• 42:01Speaker 03

  All good. All good. Tom Fullery, Tom Fullery, Tom Fullery.