Pod Insights Hamish & Andy 2025 Ep 292 - The North Man Prophecy About this episode It struck a nerve (an erogenous one, no less) when we showed a lack of gusto in breaking the World’s Tallest Hat record — but your influx of great ideas has kept the dream alive. The wash-up from the Special Skills Conclave saw a groundswell of support for the “North Man” as the true Chosen One, and Hamish may have found a piece of evidence supporting this prophecy. Meanwhile, a long-forgotten promise from Hamish has somehow resurfaced on Andy’s weekend AM radio show, “The Mid Morning Cuppa”. Plus, it’s Andy’s Birthday Week — so Hamish has decided to “Pleasure Andy” with your calls!
1. Tallest hat suggestions
2. Hamish’s ancient discovery
3. Pleasure Andy
4. Mid Morning Cuppa
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0:23 Speaker 02 Ahoy to me stubb. Hamish.
0:27 Speaker 03 Parts of a ticket?
0:30 Speaker 03 Ahoy to me other bit. And I'm the perforated lime.
0:36 Speaker 02 Ah, no. Ahoy to me flask.
0:40 Speaker 03 Stub and a flask.
0:41 Speaker 02 Stub flask.
0:43 Speaker 03 Like a stub, like a stubby, something you'd drink alcohol out of?
0:46 Speaker 02 They're actually people.
0:49 Speaker 03 People.
0:49 Speaker 02 Character names.
0:50 Speaker 03 Positions. Character names.
0:52 Speaker 02 I'm Starbuck.
0:54 Speaker 03 Are these, um, My Little Ponies?
0:56 Speaker 02 No.
0:57 Speaker 03 Thunderbirds.
0:58 Speaker 02 Uh, the three senior officers aboard the whaling ship in the very famous novel Moby Dick.
1:04 Speaker 03 Really? I have not, I don't think I've read it. I know the opening lines call me Ishmael, but I only know it for its opening line because it was often referenced in Snoopy comics.
1:15 Speaker 02 Stub Ham is the second mate, jovial, easygoing, humorous character.
1:19 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:20 Speaker 02 Flask, rather aggressive and combative personality over there, Jack. And, uh, and Steve's the third mate and Starbuck, just so happens it's the first mate.
1:30 Speaker 03 So is Ishmael not actually a character? I think he's the captain, isn't he? Uh. Hunting Moby Dick. Uh-oh, we're out of our depth.
1:36 Speaker 02 I'm out of, I'm out of.
1:38 Speaker 03 Alert, alert, alert.
1:42 Speaker 03 We've got trivia nerds rushing to give us feedback, as always, when we just go off on hunches and strong, strong vibes based on things we read in Snoopy comics.
1:50 Speaker 02 I've got captain.
1:51 Speaker 03 Ahab, I think Ahab's the captain. There we go.
1:54 Speaker 02 So now we've got about five people.
1:56 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah, well, it's a big boat.
1:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:58 Speaker 03 And then you've got Moby. Moby's not in the boat, he's under the boat.
2:01 Speaker 02 Big though. Um, uh, Ham also ahoy to Dave, Dave Nolan, who went to hamishandandy.com, uploaded what he's been doing to keep us abreast of his actions.
2:10 Speaker 04 Ahoy, boys. Happy birthday, Andy. Just doing a bit of a trip. I'm in this little southeast Queensland town called Inglewood. Bit of a one-horse town and even the horse is left, I think. Local motel's advertising it has colour TV, so she's a bit behind the times. But interestingly, what they do have is the Australian Tobacco Museum. So I thought, I'll go have a look at that. So I went in there and you wouldn't believe it, or maybe you would, just pictures of Andy Lee everywhere, smoking cigarettes, like you wouldn't believe. Beck would be shocked. Anyway, boys, keep up the good work. Cheers.
2:45 Speaker 03 Sepia, sepia photos of people that look like Andy, um, passing out sample, sample gaspers at the Gold Rush and things like that.
2:55 Speaker 05 Not true.
2:59 Speaker 03 Hime. Smoke a lucky stick while you pan, sir.
3:04 Speaker 03 What's the worst that could come of it?
3:07 Speaker 03 Andy's just trying to get you back on track by saying the one word that's on the run sheet. Hats. Say hats, get into hats. No, tallest hats. We have talked about the World Source hat for a while. Quick refresher. I think we just brought it up as a joke. I think I was saying, I was looking at, my kids are quite into the Guinness Book of Records. It's a fun, fun book to read when you're a kid. And the tallest hat is about five metres and obviously when you're going for tallest hat, it's kind of pointless. Like you are just going for the tallest hat. There's no function to the height of a hat. There's a function to the width of the brim. But even I feel like we've pushed those boundaries pretty far and now increasing brim prank last year.
3:45 Speaker 05 Yeah.
3:45 Speaker 02 But there's a lot of things in Guinness World Records that aren't practical.
3:49 Speaker 03 In fact, they all aren't practical. You're right.
3:51 Speaker 02 Well, this one could be. I mean, if you, uh, obviously some parents put like a, a flag on their kids when they're in crowd.
3:59 Speaker 05 I like to add an identifying thing. So Andy's got the tall hat, so you can pick him out.
4:03 Speaker 03 If you're the parent that wants to identify the child the most, make sure you get the tallest hat, five metre hat. If everyone starts doing it now, if all kids are wearing two metre hats, how will you know where you're kidding?
4:14 Speaker 03 So many emails. We said, and I'd have to rewind exactly for this, but I think our vibe was like, look, we're,
4:21 Speaker 02 We're not doing that. We're busy.
4:22 Speaker 03 We've actually never.
4:24 Speaker 02 On a way to somewhere else.
4:25 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yes. We accidentally passed this and, and we've been in radio for, you know, let's say 20 plus years. Everyone's had a crack at a Guinness World Record, every single radio show in the world. And we've kind of always viewed it as, with all due respect to our, our brothers and sisters in radio, it's kind of easy, low hanging fruit.
4:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:44 Speaker 03 Like you, you, everyone, if you go.
4:46 Speaker 02 Hack job.
4:47 Speaker 03 If you can be, like.
4:48 Speaker 02 With all due respect.
4:49 Speaker 03 Content, with all due respect, hack content. If you got, if you can be bothered, you could also have the most grapes in a bathtub. If you can be bothered or whatever.
5:00 Speaker 02 Has your, has your radio show gone for one?
5:02 Speaker 05 No, but we used to have Shane Crawford coming in as our footy correspondent once a week.
5:06 Speaker 03 He did one once a week, didn't he?
5:08 Speaker 05 He was at the point on the footy show where he was doing one a week.
5:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:11 Speaker 05 And that's when you know that they're not that special. If you can break a record per week.
5:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. Cause if now if it's like, oh, okay. Well, I'll, I'll, you know, I'll put the most amount of roller skates in a drying machine. Well, but with custard on my head.
5:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. They become so specific, don't they?
5:29 Speaker 03 Anyway, so that's why we were like, no, no, no, we're not doing the tall hat. We might be. It struck a nerve. Everyone's been, so many people.
5:35 Speaker 02 In a good way. Only struck a nerve can be a bad thing.
5:39 Speaker 03 It's struck an erogenous zone.
5:46 Speaker 02 All right, good.
5:47 Speaker 03 So it's hit one of them and people feel good about it.
5:51 Speaker 02 Don't they?
5:55 Speaker 03 So many oohs and yeses written down. And oh yeah, keep, keep it right there, boys. Keep that, keep the tall hat stuff right there because just keep going exactly like that. Don't change it.
6:07 Speaker 02 Change it. That's the thing. And we want to stop, but we can't.
6:13 Speaker 03 Little bit note, but we also put your pleasure ahead of our.
6:17 Speaker 02 Our junks.
6:18 Speaker 03 Or whatever it is.
6:20 Speaker 02 So.
6:21 Speaker 03 Here we go. All right. We're in, we're doing the hat. We're doing, we might be doing the hat because of.
6:24 Speaker 02 We're just gonna do it. And like, let's start, let's start with a few things that have come in. First of all, when you read out the rules originally, which we'll have to go back and study more closely because we just remember you fleetingly telling us. But something that people are really gravity, uh, gravitating to and jumping on is the fact that you measure from the base. I think the word base was used base of the hat.
6:46 Speaker 05 Now.
6:46 Speaker 02 Adam Spencer, who's a big fan of the show.
6:48 Speaker 03 Hello, Spence.
6:49 Speaker 02 Spence, he wrote in saying, why don't you do a very long Legionnaires hat?
6:53 Speaker 03 Clever.
6:54 Speaker 02 We had a few.
6:55 Speaker 05 Yeah. I imagine it, it's measured up into the sky.
6:58 Speaker 03 I got another email from a guy here, Josh Munn, same idea. Um, yeah, he's just like, look, because that's the base. So you could have it go right down to the, your feet and you're going to add for us, and we're over 1.9 metre. So you're adding, let's say 1.8. Meters of free height by adding the flap on the back.
7:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:16 Speaker 03 If it goes all the way down to your ankles. I worry that that is an obvious loophole and they might go, no, it's from where the hat attaches to your head.
7:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, I would argue that that is the base.
7:26 Speaker 03 Yes.
7:27 Speaker 02 And yeah, and it goes up and downwards from there. Some people were suggesting Corks hats that like is the base.
7:33 Speaker 03 Long Corks.
7:33 Speaker 02 Of a Cork hat. I don't think of the base of a Corked hat is where the Corks dangle.
7:38 Speaker 03 No.
7:38 Speaker 02 I think the base is the part that goes around your head.
7:41 Speaker 03 I've got an email here from a guy called Blake. I'm just going to bang through a few ideas here. Blake, you guys think of an inexpensive and easy way to construct it, which is not really our goal. I'm happy to chuck a lot of money at this. The mains are bored, but thank you though for looking, looking. Goes, what about telescopic fishing pole? I found a 6.2 metre version for 47 bucks online.
8:00 Speaker 02 Right.
8:00 Speaker 03 I'm sure a superior pole exists, an SP if you will, but a fishing rod would also conveniently fit into the centre hole on top of a skateboarding helmet. Once you have that, you can make the rest of the hat with some AC posters taped into a tube shape secured to the pole. That's not what I do, A2 cardboard being far too thick, but I understand he's, he's saying you've got 6.2 metres of stability there.
8:22 Speaker 02 Now you've just got to.
8:22 Speaker 03 And then something on the outside.
8:24 Speaker 02 Check the rules on that, whether there's a spire.
8:26 Speaker 03 You'd have to, you're allowed to have an internal spire. You reckon it's got to be hollow?
8:30 Speaker 02 I don't know. That's what I think. I think that's why we need to go through this. The other part that I want to lock down is can you have a chin strap? Because he's saying put it to like.
8:38 Speaker 03 That's a helmet.
8:39 Speaker 02 Helmet, it does feel like cheating in a way.
8:41 Speaker 03 Although, although you look at all the kids, like all the wide brim hats you play with around at school, you do have a chin strap. You've got to, you get it, you're allowed a little rope strap.
8:49 Speaker 02 There are lots of hats in the world that have a chin strap. It's just whether ours, just whether ours is allowed to have one.
8:57 Speaker 03 Baggy Greens don't have a chin strap. There are some that don't and would look silly with it.
9:01 Speaker 02 That's true. Can I throw this at your hand just for these people offering their assistance? Grace, 21. I am fourth year aerospace engineer.
9:12 Speaker 03 Hired.
9:14 Speaker 02 At USYD, the world's tortoise hat has piqued my interest and I believe I can design a 10 metre tall hat that meets all requirements. As to not take the record from you, I would merely like to do the design and build the hat for you and you take all the glory, which is something that does appeal to us.
9:31 Speaker 03 That's some of our preferred terms.
9:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, great. She's shortlisted for staff. That's exactly the kind of brainpower we need on this. Adam is having a think. He goes, think I got the perfect solution. My pitch is simple. Tall chef's hat, but made out of the same material the wavy tube men at the front of car dealerships are made of, needs to be tightly fitted around the head. So maybe some sort of elastic band or drawstring, then we just pump her full of helium. It'll be both lightweight and structurally strong. Happy for you guys to take the credit. Just a gracious nod my way whilst completing the required walk would be appreciated.
10:05 Speaker 02 Helium's not a bad idea.
10:07 Speaker 03 Helium's a good idea and I think we absolutely employ it. Um, in whatever the final structure is, I think we make it airtight to the head and pump it full of helium.
10:15 Speaker 02 Yes. Dave Hodges from the US also wrote in saying, let's use helium. I think pumping up the whole thing, he, he just had a series of balloons inside a giant top hat, which I think.
10:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, but you really would need the chin strap, wouldn't you? Then it could create the hilarious mis-hat where it's too many and Andy floats away.
10:37 Speaker 02 I'll do the chin strap, Andy.
10:41 Speaker 03 It's pitching in, it's pitching in. I've got a scary email here from anonymous world record holder. Hello fellas. I thought I'd send you a quick email. I'm the current world record holder for the largest hat. I heard what you said about, um, not wanting to tean up and I'm glad you said no, because I think we said it someplace. Do we do it with him or do we beat him?
11:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, he was Australian. That's right.
11:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think he's from Melbourne. Got no chance of beating my hat. Really? This is just a gloating email to say, I have the record. You're never going to get it. All the best, your enemy.
11:11 Speaker 02 It's nice to have a nemesis or something like that. Do you think he really wrote that though or just any old stranger wrote that?
11:16 Speaker 03 He might've dictated it. He might be so powerful he has henchmen.
11:19 Speaker 02 Have you, have you written that yourself to try and enthuse, to try and make us?
11:23 Speaker 03 Guys, everyone's talking.
11:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:25 Speaker 03 No, no. We hit a nerve on him. That wasn't an origina sign.
11:29 Speaker 02 The opposite. Um, depends what you're into. The.
11:33 Speaker 03 Sometimes they can be very close to each other or at the same time.
11:37 Speaker 02 I'm Casey. My hoi boys in relation to the tallest hat, also an aerospace engineer, but I own a 3D printer and happy for you to help out with a 3D scan of a head. If we want to make sure the aerodynamic tall hat can fit perfectly on a head.
11:55 Speaker 03 That's very, that's a generous offer, but we do have a head.
11:58 Speaker 05 Why don't we just use our heads?
11:59 Speaker 03 Getting the shape of a head is not our main material.
12:02 Speaker 02 I agree.
12:02 Speaker 03 Problem, but that's a great, I mean, keep all, anyone in the science field, we keep them close. Look, I think we start chasing this and we start assembling a bit of a crack team to engineer the hat with these ideas. I think helium is great. We'll look at, we can do the central structure. Um, flaps, good loophole, probably out the Legionnaire sheet. This comes from Nat, um, and does flag, I think a, a good thing for us to flag sort of as we enter the R and D stage. Hello boys, just listening to you deliberate, who would wear the world's tallest hat had immediate concerns about little boy Jack and his extremely weak neck. I must remind you that while you were bringing peace to the north in Darwin, you traveled on a slightly bumpy road.
12:46 Speaker 03 This resulted in Jack kinking his neck and ruling him out for the day. So I think it's best of you, Hamish or Andy to carry the load.
12:53 Speaker 05 Well, I mean, you guys can attest to how bumpy that road was and you can't really even.
12:58 Speaker 02 My neck was fine.
12:59 Speaker 05 No, no, but you were in the front of the car and the back of the car is where we were getting the most shock. The shockwave.
13:06 Speaker 03 Okay. Well, if you do want to wear the hat, Jack, we'll need to run you through a series of speed bump tests to make sure it can handle it.
13:12 Speaker 02 I, I, I've been pondering that as well. I wonder whether, because you have, we have to walk how far with the hat on?
13:18 Speaker 03 I wasn't very far, five, 10 meters, 10 steps, something like that.
13:22 Speaker 02 Should we have in the lead up? Have some kind of situation, training method or competition between the three of us. Who can walk the furthest with, I don't know, with books on their head, whatever we decide, just to pick the right person.
13:37 Speaker 05 Or do we get, would we bring someone from outside like Daniel Ricciardo? Because they have to have, Formula One drivers have to have really strong necks.
13:45 Speaker 02 Yep.
13:45 Speaker 05 For G4.
13:46 Speaker 03 That would be funny. We need the person with the superior posture to be able to handle that. And that could be, yeah, and it was, yeah, Ricciardo, he's not doing any F1 stuff, is he? Cause he's just everywhere you look, he's promoting something or he's got a wine house.
14:01 Speaker 02 Calendar is free up.
14:02 Speaker 03 I feel like, I feel like of all the years of his career to test drive the world's tallest hat, this is the one.
14:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, but I think he regards himself as being pretty cool. So we've got to have a cool hat.
14:13 Speaker 03 What are you saying, mate? What are you saying? We haven't even built that, mate.
14:17 Speaker 02 All I'm saying is we've got to take shorts backwards.
14:21 Speaker 03 I think a 10 metre hat's going to be cool.
14:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, good. All good thoughts.
14:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, as far as Dan's concerned, I think he's like busily trying to catapult out of F1 and try and.
14:33 Speaker 03 It's a rebrand.
14:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, try and brand it. And so for just picture him in the paddock, like, cause he still goes to F1 events.
14:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, he's not wearing it there.
14:43 Speaker 02 No, but I'm just saying, like.
14:45 Speaker 03 The strap is sitting down in the box in front of someone. Oh, sorry, mate. Could you take your hat off? People upstairs want you to take it off too.
14:52 Speaker 02 An Oscar and that. Like, what have you been up to?
14:54 Speaker 03 Miss F1? Nah.
14:59 Speaker 03 You guys have just won championships. I'm actually breaking actual records.
15:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:03 Speaker 03 Everyone's won a race. We've got to break the record.
15:06 Speaker 02 I'm just not sure if it's going to be.
15:08 Speaker 05 Well, we are, we are, we are.
15:09 Speaker 03 We are, Scandia.
15:18 Speaker 03 Guys, of course, the huge news from the week as people grapple to get their head around it is, Andy, again, congratulations, but your win in the knee, the knee run as Larry, the chosen one from the conclave. Unfortunately, sorry, it's getting a bit emotional.
15:39 Speaker 02 Nothing to do with the food you were just eating before.
15:42 Speaker 03 Yep, had a peanut butter shake, but also a little bit emotional. Unfortunately, Larry was not able to beat you in the knee running race, therefore seemed to be an incorrectly chosen one, chosen chosen one, or just one of those rare chosen ones that doesn't get the job done. Now, the wash up has been fascinating.
16:03 Speaker 02 Yep.
16:03 Speaker 03 As, as people have digested it, a lot of passion, like people have been looking at the video, watching the race, thinking about the conclave.
16:11 Speaker 03 One of the key things that's come out of it, I would say from the post conclave into Larry's run is a group of people that feel that the Northman.
16:25 Speaker 02 Lot of.
16:26 Speaker 05 Yeah, seen the ground swell for that.
16:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, across every social pipe.
16:30 Speaker 02 If you're just new to the pod right now, we encourage you to go back and start from the start, but welcome, everyone's welcome. We, a special skill last week, the Northman was a guy that said that, what was his name again, Jack?
16:42 Speaker 05 His name was Charlie and his special skill was he could stand anywhere, you could put him anywhere, spin him around, blindfold him, put him inside, outside, and he would know where North is. Yep.
16:51 Speaker 03 Now, he wasn't chosen from the conclave.
16:55 Speaker 05 No.
16:56 Speaker 03 The whole point of the conclave was to let the true chosen one emerge. The absolutely voracious appetite from people who kind of feel like a travesty took place, Jack, where the only time the votes weren't locked, one all in the conclave, was one of the rounds where Charlie got two votes.
17:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:20 Speaker 03 Now, people have gone a step further and looked into how the actual Pope conclave works. Unfortunately, the magic number is two thirds in the Pope conclave.
17:28 Speaker 02 And in the Pope conclave, you can't vote for yourself.
17:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, that's true.
17:33 Speaker 02 So there were two aspects to it that we probably should have thought about.
17:37 Speaker 05 I actually watched the movie because I knew I was conducting the conclave, yet still failed to do what they did. They don't make that clear in the movie. No, I didn't think so either. No, I've watched the movie.
17:46 Speaker 03 I've done a bunch of other stuff. Yeah. So he actually fulfilled the conclave rules. So a lot of people pointed that to be like, he was the chosen one, but he was overridden by Jack just choosing Larry for knee running.
18:01 Speaker 03 That's why I think you see a lot of comments on Instagram and stuff going, Northman, Northman, we want Northman, King of the North, the King of the North, the North shall rise.
18:10 Speaker 05 And those types of things. Say it all.
18:12 Speaker 03 You see a lot of that. You see a lot of, and a lot of people point to Larry's failure as evidence that yes, of course he failed. He wasn't the chosen one.
18:20 Speaker 05 Yes.
18:20 Speaker 03 This all makes perfect sense in that lens. Now, last week on the show, we had a royal commission. We looked at everything that happened and we went, look,
18:28 Speaker 03 blame was divvied up percentage wise. And I think we were left, we just said, look, maybe if, maybe if the speed undresser comes.
18:38 Speaker 05 That's right.
18:39 Speaker 03 They might be the true chosen.
18:41 Speaker 05 He's the only one can lock it.
18:42 Speaker 03 So I was kinda happy to put it to bed. You know, there's always going to be a little bit of controversy about stuff on the show. That's what we love about it. Everyone's got their opinion. Everyone has a different perspective.
18:53 Speaker 03 Until I was in here a little earlier today before we began the show, and I'm poking around and a panel falls away from the wall.
19:04 Speaker 03 And behind the panel is a stone on the other side of this soundproofing here in the studio. I gently press on the stone.
19:11 Speaker 05 Oh, do you?
19:12 Speaker 03 To my surprise, it moves. There was a strange symbol on the stone, but I can come back to that on another show. The panel moves. I take out from behind it what seems to be an ancient parchment that I hold now in my hand.
19:28 Speaker 05 Looks, it looks like your hair in your handwriting.
19:32 Speaker 03 No, it's stained.
19:33 Speaker 05 Yep.
19:35 Speaker 03 As you can see, and torn.
19:36 Speaker 05 It's torn.
19:37 Speaker 03 Yep. Now, I knew you'd say this. I knew you'd be like, oh, did you just make that yourself? So as soon as I realized what was going on, okay, I've uncovered some kind of tomb here.
19:48 Speaker 03 Who knows what this is? I quickly turned on the recording stuff so I could record me finding it.
19:54 Speaker 05 That's the biggest shock that you knew how to turn on the recording.
19:58 Speaker 03 Come, well, have a listen.
20:00 Speaker 05 Okay.
20:03 Speaker 03 The heck is this?
20:11 Speaker 03 So there we go, actuality.
20:13 Speaker 02 Wow. Okay, I did doubt you.
20:15 Speaker 03 Play it again, Joe.
20:16 Speaker 02 I did doubt you for a second, but.
20:19 Speaker 05 I can even hear the paper rustling if you're listening carefully.
20:23 Speaker 05 The heck is this?
20:27 Speaker 02 Like I said, I did doubt you, but now I don't. So read out what's this.
20:32 Speaker 03 It's a scroll.
20:32 Speaker 02 It's a scroll. Well.
20:33 Speaker 03 It looks to be some kind of, I don't know, written by the ancient podcasters, I suppose. Ones that have come millennia before us. Should I just read it for you?
20:48 Speaker 03 We can stop and analyse as it goes, because I'm spoiler, I've read ahead. But there's a few bits here where we might need to kind of piece a few clues together. But I think we'll, I think we'll get it. To podcaster of future, read, beware. One will emerge from Conclave through vote unfair.
21:08 Speaker 02 That's a rhyme.
21:09 Speaker 03 Well, yes, it's sort of a cryptic, rhyming.
21:12 Speaker 02 Sounds like a crypt.
21:13 Speaker 03 Riddle.
21:14 Speaker 02 We know what he's talking about, yeah.
21:15 Speaker 03 Through vote unfair, I suppose they're saying there'll be a conclave, but the vote will be unfair. That checks out because the vote was overruled by the marshal of the conclave.
21:27 Speaker 03 To save a segment, one will stand small. He must be talking about the knee running.
21:37 Speaker 02 Of course.
21:38 Speaker 05 Yeah.
21:39 Speaker 03 But though big of heart, short of line, he will fall. Must be talking about him not winning. The finish line, I think they must be. Thy segment dead, no more will come forth. Must be talking about how special skills is dead and now no more skills are coming forth.
21:55 Speaker 02 Must be.
21:56 Speaker 03 But the curse will be lifted by the true king of the knot.
22:03 Speaker 03 It cuts out.
22:07 Speaker 02 Well, it's.
22:08 Speaker 03 What is it? I don't know what the last bit says.
22:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's ripped off.
22:11 Speaker 03 The curse will be lifted by the true king of the north.
22:16 Speaker 05 Could it, could it be north?
22:17 Speaker 02 And is it, could it be north? And is it, is it a capital N?
22:20 Speaker 03 Yep.
22:21 Speaker 02 And what was the symbol on the stone? That you talked about?
22:24 Speaker 03 We can come back to it in another episode.
22:26 Speaker 02 Okay.
22:27 Speaker 03 But it looked a little like what? A rudimentary compass.
22:33 Speaker 02 Pointing north?
22:34 Speaker 03 There was a larger indent at the top of the compass where north traditionally is. Now, I'm not, because I'm just putting facts out there. I'm not trying to lead the witness. I'm not saying some sort of ancient sect foresaw this and Charlie, the true king of the north, is the chosen one and we have to get him and do some sort of midnight ritual in the forest where we're all in robes and there's a bonfire and stuff and we make him point north. I'm not saying that.
23:02 Speaker 03 But isn't that an interesting thought?
23:03 Speaker 02 Or are you available?
23:08 Speaker 03 I'm just saying.
23:09 Speaker 02 That there, there's been a lot of groundswell to try and get the king of the north back in to do it. Charlie, the fact that you've managed to find this parchment, it further puts.
23:19 Speaker 05 Yeah, if it was one of, if it was just the comments, then we could let it go. But the parchment is so real.
23:26 Speaker 03 Powerful, isn't it?
23:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah.
23:27 Speaker 03 It's so real.
23:30 Speaker 02 Convincing.
23:30 Speaker 03 You can't hold something that's not real in your hands and we have it here.
23:34 Speaker 02 Okay, well.
23:35 Speaker 03 The curse will be lifted by the true king of the north. I'll take this to the lab and I'll, we'll do a little bit more digging around on this and have a think about what it means.
23:44 Speaker 05 Yeah, but.
23:45 Speaker 03 But I feel like, you know, since it's an ancient parchment, maybe I have a dig around for some more parchments and it will have more details.
23:54 Speaker 05 That'd be great.
23:54 Speaker 03 On what the ritual should look like.
23:56 Speaker 05 Yep.
23:57 Speaker 03 Should we choose to do?
23:58 Speaker 05 If you have time.
24:00 Speaker 03 If I have time, should we choose to do North Fest or have some sort of north ritual?
24:04 Speaker 05 Yep.
24:05 Speaker 03 In the forest?
24:07 Speaker 05 In robes.
24:15 Speaker 03 Before we go on, just like to say ahoy, boys, and happy birthday, Andy.
24:20 Speaker 03 He's made us very aware, very aware, getting lots of gift suggestion emails from Andy.
24:28 Speaker 05 Oh, it's your real birthday time for Andy. Oh, happy real birthday.
24:33 Speaker 03 His birthday year, but we're now coming into the birthday week where he makes an extra big deal of it and you might get a couple of links to fun places. It might be cool to surprise him, as an email I got during the week said, here's a place that could be fun to have a surprise party for me.
24:50 Speaker 05 That's not true. Anyway, yes.
24:53 Speaker 03 So to help Andy make a big deal, a few people might remember a couple of years ago, to celebrate Andy's birthday week, we did Pleasure Fest. We had the opposite of upset Andy.
25:04 Speaker 05 Yeah, I liked it.
25:05 Speaker 03 Pleasure Andy. And Andy, I thought, we get a lot of submissions. We get a lot more for upset Andy, but we do get a few coming in. For pleasure Andy, we collect them, we bank them, and once a year, as a special birthday treat, we turn the tables. Now it's time to pleasure Andy.
25:53 Speaker 03 It's deliberately flat and off time to annoy him.
25:57 Speaker 05 It doesn't please me.
25:59 Speaker 03 It's meant to please him. Just seeing back to that, I was like, oh, that's right. I think it was a bit of a rush that day to do that and I meant to come back to that to clean it up. Should we ever do it again? However, fast and loose, who's got time to go back and re-record openers? And so many people to please you. Just flick something to your computer there. This is the first one from Mitch. This is a visual one. Look at this, this is a run on Strava. He has run six Ks. On the nose though. Pace, six, six point zero zero kilometres. Pace, five, colon, zero, zero minutes per kilometre. Time, thirty minutes, zero seconds. Everything. Do you love that? Everything, everything nice and neat. Yep. How much would you love that? I'm going out for a half an hour run.
26:43 Speaker 03 Get home, I've bloody done it. Exactly the split.
26:48 Speaker 02 It's tough to do.
26:49 Speaker 03 Mate, I know. Even just the distance for me, let alone getting the split.
26:54 Speaker 02 Mitch, thank you for that. That has pleased me on my so-called birthday week, in inverted commas.
27:01 Speaker 05 Well, it's not so-called, it is your birthday week.
27:03 Speaker 02 Okay.
27:03 Speaker 05 Happy birthday.
27:04 Speaker 02 So-called by you too.
27:06 Speaker 03 Oh mate, don't, I love this double act that you play when you come on air. Get on with it. Who's this guy? I'd love to have him around the office, rather than sliding the innovations magazine from the airplane across to us with a few things circled. Wouldn't mind those tall shoes. Wouldn't mind a hollowed-out encyclopedia Britannica or two to hide things in. Okay, Daniel, do you have something to please Andy?
27:31 Speaker 06 Oh, boys, happy birthday, Andy.
27:33 Speaker 03 Ahoi, and thank you.
27:35 Speaker 02 The spirit.
27:36 Speaker 06 In my kitchen, in the top cupboard, I keep all my wine glasses and I've got some champagne glasses there as well. And the champagne glass fits perfectly between the bottom of the shelf and the top. There's probably about a millimetre gap at the top. Not even enough for dust to get in.
27:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:55 Speaker 02 Small of the dust.
27:56 Speaker 03 I love it, Daniel, really pleasing. Is it too close? Does it make it difficult to take it in?
28:03 Speaker 02 That's like a Tetris slot in.
28:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:05 Speaker 06 You have to go very slow, otherwise you will have a break in broken glass.
28:08 Speaker 03 Well, no, that is much better. That's the price you pay for it almost sealed in glass.
28:12 Speaker 02 And I imagine, can you just answer me this, Daniel? Do you have the right amount of glasses? So, you know, say if it's three deep, three deep, three deep, or four deep, four deep. So it's, you know, you've got at least full lines?
28:25 Speaker 06 It's perfectly three by two.
28:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, nice, mate. Thank you. Oh, Andy doesn't want a loan, so.
28:33 Speaker 03 That's super pleasing, Danielle, really. What would you do in that scenario and if you broke one? I'd get another one. Or I'd try to work out a different formation. I have before. Five flats somewhere. We, I have before put away spares in a different spare cupboard, so. So they're still equal. So they can become equal. So they're allowed to be unequal in that cupboard? Yeah, often still boxed. Okay.
29:01 Speaker 03 My god, how do you get anything done? Very, very efficiently. Just, but just with all this cataloguing and organising. Every time I need a battery at home, I always think Andy would know exactly where his batteries were in this scenario. And that's the only time I feel that I, I should do what you do. Yeah. But all the other days of the year, I, I just laugh.
29:24 Speaker 03 I needed a button battery jack for, like, for a thing on my bike. And of course I couldn't find one. I'm like, I assume there's one floating around somewhere. I went, okay, well, fair play. Andy would know if he had a button battery or not, because they're all different sizes and codes. So I went, you know what? This will never happen to me again. And I bought five button batteries at the supermarket and dispersed them around the house. That's not the same as Andy's system. This is my system. One in the pantry, one in the garage, one's in my bedside drawer. And it's been a year now. This battery you don't need to replace that much. So I'm finding batteries all the time going. I'm like, damn Andy for making me adopt this many battery strategy. But what was the dispersment strategy?
30:08 Speaker 03 Because he doesn't know where to look for a battery. I don't know where they are. I don't know where they are. So now he's got many spots. I've got so many, I can't, I can't help but come across them. Because the way my brain works is where would I store batteries? I don't have a spot. I have to hypnotise myself almost and try and remember where would I hide batteries if I was Hamish? Yeah. And I am him. And now he's giving himself five times.
30:33 Speaker 02 Chances of finding it next time.
30:34 Speaker 03 That's exactly right, Jack.
30:35 Speaker 02 Well, we should do that in Bitcoin bars.
30:37 Speaker 03 Ten thousand eight hundred and sixty six tickets in a lottery.
30:41 Speaker 02 Lara, ahoy to you Lara.
30:43 Speaker 07 Ahoy boys and happy birthday Andy.
30:45 Speaker 02 I'll accept.
30:45 Speaker 03 Good on you Lara. Um, what would, what have you got to please or pleasure Andy?
30:50 Speaker 07 Um, so for a few weeks, my grandpa was driving his car more than normal and we couldn't work out why. And then he went to take it for its service and he very proudly showed us that his odometer was one, two, three, four, five, six. As we drove into the mechanics.
31:08 Speaker 02 Really like it. Yeah, that's really special. So he was driving to get the miles up, is that what it is? Yeah, just because.
31:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, to pull in on that last kilometre, like he had to time it to the K.
31:17 Speaker 02 Yep, yep. I'd get a tow, if I stuffed it up, I'd get a tow truck, that's that last little bit, just like.
31:23 Speaker 03 Someone's reversing from two kilometres away to try and get into the mechanics.
31:28 Speaker 02 Lara, thank you, I appreciate him. Uh, Amraj, uh, ahoy to you.
31:33 Speaker 06 Uh, ahoy, uh, congrats on the SP Hamish and congrats on the BD, Andy's birthday.
31:41 Speaker 03 I thought BD was big and I was like, well, congrats us both, someone, one has to be superior. Uh, no, beautifully done, Amraj. Uh, thank you, sir. What have you got to please Andy on, on this BDW?
31:55 Speaker 06 Yes, so I'm the very proud owner of a garden tap, a hose and a gun style, not gun, uh, pressure, uh, trigger, um, to water my garden.
32:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've got the same. Have you got a twist nodule at the end of it so you can go through different sprays, mists?
32:10 Speaker 06 Yes, of course, of course. Yeah, yeah. Uh, must be nice, it is. And then sometimes I get my common man on and I'm watering my own garden and my lawn and that. And whenever I'm done, of course I let go of the trigger, um, to stop the hose, the water flow and then turn the tap off at the, at the wall. But here's the key step, I always squeeze, uh, squeeze the trigger that little bit more just to release the pressure.
32:34 Speaker 03 Oh, yes. So turn the tap off at the wall, but you, you know there's pressure in the hose still.
32:39 Speaker 02 That could still.
32:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, this. Well, could be putting stress on the system or the spring and that's where, wear and tear.
32:46 Speaker 02 I'm Raj. I love it for you. I wouldn't do it myself.
32:50 Speaker 03 And I'd be happy to leave it, happy to leave it loaded.
32:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:54 Speaker 03 One in the chamber.
32:54 Speaker 02 Yeah. Sometimes I know this is, it goes against things, but sometimes I don't even turn off the tap.
33:00 Speaker 03 No, I didn't know you had to turn off the tap. I have never turned my tap off at the tap and quite often I will be walking out the door and see it's exploded. Uh, through, no, cause I have it on full bore all the time. Yeah. And I'll see that the pistol's shot off. Because it should have been replaced many times ago and I've just squashed it back on.
33:16 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. So that's your, that's your issue. I'm confident that I've got a, a well-kept pistol. Yeah. So I'm not going to do that. But, um.
33:25 Speaker 03 Must be very nice.
33:25 Speaker 02 I'm Raj. Thank you. Uh, even just this small chat about mists and jet propulsion.
33:31 Speaker 03 Please.
33:32 Speaker 02 Please me, but.
33:33 Speaker 03 What's your favorite setting? Okay, guys. Say there, I'm Raj. Uh, just cause I think you guys are pretty similar. Um, for people that like, um, the, the pistol attachment, have a think about this. Cause on the count of three.
33:45 Speaker 02 Well, hang on, what are we doing?
33:46 Speaker 03 I'm gonna, I'm gonna say to you what your favorite setting is.
33:50 Speaker 02 Yeah. But what are we doing? What are you doing? Like, what's the task? What's the task with the hose?
33:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, but what are we doing? Okay, mate. Relax. You're watering roses.
34:00 Speaker 02 Oh, spray.
34:02 Speaker 03 No, mate, just one, one. Change what he's doing. You have, um, all right. You're watering, you're at the edge of your garden. You're watering some natives that are three meters away. Okay?
34:17 Speaker 02 Yep.
34:18 Speaker 03 On the count of three. One, two, three.
34:21 Speaker 02 Spray. Sprinkle shower. Sprinkle showers, same thing.
34:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay.
34:28 Speaker 03 It's like a really underwhelming version of Family Feud or something, isn't it? Where it actually ends different and you go to Denia, it was the same thing, same thing. I'm not, I'm not sitting down for that.
34:48 Speaker 02 You reckon the shower will go three metres? I thought you'd need the jet to get that distance. Nah, the jet will be way too powerful for that. The spray will be fine. Um, you miss, you're not going to get anywhere near it. Yeah, but jets.
34:58 Speaker 05 You need that even distribution.
34:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, sometimes I, I mean, again, this is a fast and loose thing, but I always have it on jet.
35:04 Speaker 02 Idiot.
35:04 Speaker 03 And because I can't be bothered looking down and doing all the changing. So I just, I'll just wiggle it in the air as fast as I can.
35:12 Speaker 02 Take some of the heat off it.
35:13 Speaker 03 Take the power out.
35:16 Speaker 02 Thank you, Avraj. Emma, bring this home for us. You've got to please Andy, do you, Emma? Ahoy to you.
35:22 Speaker 07 Yes, ahoy, boys, and happy birthday, Andy.
35:24 Speaker 02 Thank you.
35:24 Speaker 03 Good on you, Em.
35:25 Speaker 07 Um, so I'm a pretty organised person. Um, so for the clothes I wear to work, I have a list of around 17 different outfits that include the top, the pants, the shoes and the jumpers. And then each day I pick what's next on the list and it makes my morning super efficient.
35:40 Speaker 02 Oh, wow. I, I reckon Andy's torn here because he loves that efficiency.
35:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:45 Speaker 02 I don't think he does that, but I would love to be at Andy's house and find that list. That would make my day to just see jeans, white shirt, dimmies and tini cats. I'd be like, oh, boy, he's planning it, he's planning it. I, again, I don't want to play genders here, but I think that'd be more helpful for females. It seems like there's far more combos going on for Bec when I see her go about her.
36:10 Speaker 03 You don't want a trickle shower on her parade.
36:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, but, um, because I, uh, obviously wear the same jeans for two weeks or a short if it's a hotter and then a white tee hat. You don't need too much planning, but boy, Emma, I would love Bec to do this.
36:27 Speaker 07 You can have a list of winter and summer and real set.
36:29 Speaker 02 Nothing would please me more than if.
36:31 Speaker 03 You should do it for her. Do it for, do it for the next year. Present her with a spreadsheet, maybe even including the wedding day.
36:39 Speaker 02 I will.
36:40 Speaker 03 Plan the dress.
36:40 Speaker 02 I'll do that and record it and you'll.
36:44 Speaker 02 Honey, I know you've got so much on your mind and I haven't set a date, but I thought I'd just get a jump on the wedding and I've got your dress.
36:59 Speaker 02 Now, I've told you guys both before that I do mid-mornings on an AM station on Sunday. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Exactly. Congrats, making the leap. Not that early. Kind of on skid. Yeah, a mid-morning cuppa with Andy Lee on a Sunday. And, look, it's a slightly different vibe to the way we run the podcast, but weirdly, occasionally on the mid-morning cuppa, our two worlds collide. And obviously, there's an open line for the show that people would follow on a Sunday morning. Some people do call in and want to talk about the podcast. Oh, they'll be confusing for your audience. And it's a little bit confusing for my eyes. Sometimes I go with it. Anyway, something came up on last Sunday's episode where I was like, okay, well, we have
37:41 Speaker 02 to raise this with you guys. And anyway, if you indulge me, I'll play a little bit of the mid-morning cuppa. I'll obviously like to keep them separate. But what station? Good question.
37:55 Speaker 02 It's one of those national ones. Yeah.
37:58 Speaker 02 No, don't get out there.
38:03 Speaker 07 Thanks to Pacman's Funeral Insurance. One last gift for those you're leaving behind.
38:15 Speaker 02 Yes, it's the mid-morning cuppa with Andy Lee. I'll be with you all the way through till noon, of course, thanks to Pacman's Funeral Insurance. One last gift for those you're leaving. My auntie actually used them just a couple of months back and was very pleased with the results. Anyway, beautiful day outside. I hope you're having a nice time, whether you may be, whether it's walking the dog, bit of gardening, or perhaps you got yourself a cuppa and you're tucking yourself into a crossword. Anyway, I'm here to give you company as usual. And the open line is where I want to hear your thoughts on any topic whatsoever. Ashley has called in. Ashley, the open line is yours. Are you there, Ashley?
38:56 Speaker 06 I am. Hello.
38:57 Speaker 02 Hello. What's on your mind today?
39:00 Speaker 06 I was just thinking, I've been doing a bit of a re-listen of the podcast and I was listening back and I've heard Hamish a couple of times failed to deliver on his big guest. And I know episode 200 is coming up soon and I'm kind of nervous he's going to fail to deliver again.
39:18 Speaker 02 Yes. So wind this back for me, Ashley. I know Hamish is. Obviously made big promises before and continues to let everybody down. But yeah, so he promised a big guest in episode 100.
39:33 Speaker 06 Yes.
39:34 Speaker 02 And then again, that got delayed to episode 200, didn't it?
39:38 Speaker 06 It did, it did.
39:39 Speaker 02 And then what was, you've obviously just refreshed yourself, what did he say around episode 200?
39:45 Speaker 06 So just after episode 200, because he obviously forgot.
39:49 Speaker 02 Hmm.
39:49 Speaker 06 He said he would deliver it on episode 300, which would be halfway through 2025. So it's coming up very soon. Um, but obviously he's failed to deliver a couple of times before. So we're all nervous waiting to see what's gonna happen.
40:03 Speaker 02 My producer here at the Mid Morning Cuppa has just done some great work and has got the grab for us. This is show 201, where he's reminded that he um, should have produced a big guest uh, in episode 200.
40:16 Speaker 03 Here we are at episode 201.
40:20 Speaker 02 Who lost the guest then?
40:21 Speaker 03 The special guest.
40:22 Speaker 02 Yes.
40:23 Speaker 03 Uh, well, I did, well, I don't wanna buy it because he could come on for episode 300. Yeah, he just sent you texts.
40:28 Speaker 02 Set your texts.
40:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, set your texts going, yeah, could do 300. So it's that halfway through 2025.
40:38 Speaker 02 We look forward to that.
40:38 Speaker 03 Another hundo eps.
40:40 Speaker 02 How did it make you feel, Ashley, when um, he doesn't come through with these type of promises?
40:45 Speaker 06 You know, it's really upsetting because we like, we all love the show. We love Hamish and we wanna see him deliver.
40:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, we, everyone wants him to succeed, but it just gets, the feeling is that he doesn't care for the listeners. Um, and would you say it's disrespectful? I don't wanna put that in your mouth.
41:05 Speaker 06 No, I think that's fair to say.
41:06 Speaker 02 Hmm, yeah, same. Uh, Alex, thanks to Ashley. Alex has also joined us on the open line. He wants to share uh, something on this topic as well. Alex, are you there?
41:13 Speaker 06 Yeah, how are you, mate?
41:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, very well and welcome to the uh, Mid Morning Cuppa.
41:18 Speaker 06 Um, yeah, thanks.
41:19 Speaker 02 So you heard Ashley speaking of this incident with Hamish and as um, episode 300 approaches, are you also nervous about what might happen?
41:29 Speaker 06 Yeah, mate, I mean, it's, it's been a pretty long emotional roller coaster when you think about it. And it, they kind of, is a recurring theme here of.
41:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:37 Speaker 06 Just being let down.
41:39 Speaker 02 Yep.
41:39 Speaker 06 You know, like, I'm stressed, I can't eat.
41:41 Speaker 02 Yep.
41:42 Speaker 06 I was like, I was, um, like you, you think you know someone.
41:44 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
41:45 Speaker 06 Um, and then I, I, like, I kinda but wonder like. Do you realise that it makes me feel like I'm dumb?
41:52 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:53 Speaker 06 For trusting him?
41:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of us that have continuing trust issues. Can we expect anything different when we get closer to episode 300?
42:02 Speaker 06 I don't think so, mate. I don't even know if I want a special guest anymore.
42:05 Speaker 02 No, no, I can understand that. If Hamish was listening right now, would you have anything to say to him?
42:11 Speaker 06 Just, he knows what he's done. He has to. Just sort it out, Ham. Like, what are you doing?
42:16 Speaker 02 Thanks, Alex. Really appreciate it.
42:18 Speaker 06 Thanks, mate.
42:18 Speaker 02 Keep your open line calls coming in.
42:22 Speaker 02 What do we do with our pets on the weekend? That's the topic I've got coming up just after this short break.
42:32 Speaker 02 Tight, tight stuff.
42:34 Speaker 03 Oh, no, no, play the pet stuff. I wasn't ready to come back to live.
42:39 Speaker 02 So, still a few episodes out, Ham. Obviously, there's been-
42:44 Speaker 03 Hang on, let's just rewind for a sec. Sorry, did that last guy say he doesn't want one?
42:50 Speaker 02 I knew you were gonna-
42:52 Speaker 03 I think that's what he said. He basically just said, "It's got to say to her, I don't want one now."
42:56 Speaker 02 He said he's not sure, but actually-
42:57 Speaker 03 Well, unfortunately, I'm sitting here with the laptop open and I fired off an email to cancel. He said, "I don't want one now."
43:05 Speaker 02 So you've cancelled?
43:06 Speaker 03 He's like, "Ham, well, I can try and undo that."
43:08 Speaker 02 Well, will you have one now?
43:10 Speaker 03 No, well, I worry that now that I've cancelled-
43:13 Speaker 02 Will you have a guest on the break?
43:14 Speaker 03 That's going to add time.
43:18 Speaker 03 Because this big guest, who was a he, we just heard-
43:23 Speaker 02 What's, what field?
43:25 Speaker 03 Entertainment.
43:28 Speaker 03 And I encourage you to think very broadly when I say the word entertainment. Because think about the kind of things you might find entertaining.
43:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, so-
43:39 Speaker 03 It might, and I, because I don't want to spoil the surprise before I do it. In this definition, a very, very, very famous surgeon could be entertaining. Because we're entertained by his stories of the operating theatre.
43:51 Speaker 02 Make it very clear for everyone now-
43:52 Speaker 03 I'm not going to.
43:53 Speaker 02 Can we expect a guest in episode 300?
43:56 Speaker 03 With the recent cancelling email?
44:00 Speaker 03 That's gonna be, that's gonna present problems. I'm gonna make best endeavours.
44:06 Speaker 02 Do you want to kick it to episode 400?
44:09 Speaker 03 What's the last episode of this year?
44:11 Speaker 02 It'd be 320.
44:14 Speaker 03 Ah, it could be tight.
44:18 Speaker 03 I think kicking it to 400 makes a bit of a mockery of it. Yeah. So I think 350. 350. 350. I think 350 is about right. Yeah. And. It's only been five years. 350 is about right. At first I didn't know what you were talking about, then I, oh yeah, no, I think he is still locked in for 300. Then I sent the email. Now I'll have a go and do that.
44:40 Speaker 03 I think 350, if I can, yes. And again, it's not kicking a can. It's simply getting to where you thought the can was and realising there's a better spot for the can. And it's not here, it's further down the road. It's like going to the bank and they go, what would you like to do today? Pay off the mortgage or re-mortgage? I'm going to go re-mortgage again. Right, we thought you were going to pay it off. No, that's your fault for assuming. I've decided to re-re-mortgage. No, 350. Let me get to the email. Dear X. Excuse the previous email.
45:19 Speaker 01 Thanks for listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return next week. Catch up or contribute at hamishandandy.com.
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