Episode 578: Attention, Comparison, and the Hidden Cost of Reality TV

Can being obsessed with other people's lives distract you from living your own? Reality TV can feel like harmless entertainment. You watch the drama, follow the relationships, and debate who was right or wrong. But when people become deeply invested in edited storylines, compare themselves to strangers, or attack contestants online, it reveals something bigger about where we are putting our attention. The more time we spend watching other people live, the less energy we may have for building a life of our own. Entertainment can be a way to unwind, but your attention is still one of your most valuable resources. Reality shows are designed to manipulate emotions, create villains, and keep audiences coming back. We rarely see the full story, yet people make sweeping judgments based on a few edited moments. The better question may be: Is this helping me recharge, or is it pulling me further into comparison, distraction, and negativity? In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I break down why Love Island has become such a cultural phenomenon, what reality TV reveals about modern dating and self-respect, how edited storylines influence the way we judge people, why online audiences have become so cruel, and why we need to spend less time watching other people live and more time investing in our own lives. What's Discussed: (02:12) Why "I do not have time" often means something is not a real priority. (04:51) Why women are often held to a higher standard and expected to answer for men's behavior. (07:12) Why Love Island's constant stream of new episodes keeps audiences deeply invested. (10:42) How reality TV became a launchpad for fame, brand deals, and influencer careers. (11:43) Why audiences are easily manipulated by edited storylines and manufactured drama. (13:21) What Love Island reveals about self-respect, dating standards, and knowing when to walk away. (15:25) Why reality dating shows mirror the confusion and unhealthy patterns of modern dating. (16:38) Why people are drawn to honesty when so much media and social content feels performative. (18:04) How producers turn nonstop footage into emotional storylines designed to provoke viewers. (19:45) How comparison and consuming other people's lives can distract you from building your own. Thank You to Our Sponsors! Magic Mind: Head over to magicmind.com/jen http://www.magicmind.com/jen and use code JEN at checkout. Momentous: Ready to try supplements that actually do what they claim? Head to livemomentous.com http://livemomentous.com and use code JEN for 35% off your first subscription. Therasage: Visit therasage.com http://therasage.com and use code JEN to get 15% off your order. Your skin Prolon: Prolon is offering listeners 30% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Just visit prolonlife.com/JENNIFERCOHEN https://prolonlife.com/JENNIFERCOHEN and use code JENNIFERCOHEN to claim your discount and your bonus gift. Kion: Visit getkion.com/habits http://getkion.com/habits for 20% off. Tru Niagen®: For supplements that are rigorously tested, third-party verified, and actually deliver what's on the label, head to truniagen.com http://truniagen.com Find more from Jen Cohen: Website: jennifercohen.com https://jennifercohen.com Instagram: @therealjencohen http://instagram.com/therealjencohen Books: jennifercohen.com/books https://jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements https://jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements

• 0:01Speaker 00

  Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.

• 0:07Speaker 01

  Hello, everybody, and welcome to another solo episode of Habits and Hustle, where I'm today joined with one of my favorite foilers, Shawnee Suisa. But before we get into it, you guys, I'm always remiss and I want to make sure I start by telling you guys, if you have not yet subscribed, please hit the subscribe button on whatever platform you are listening to this podcast because, or watching this podcast, because it makes a massive difference. And I've been told by many people that I keep on forgetting, which is true. And so I am now going to try to make a conscious effort to say before every episode, if you like what you hear, please subscribe. It just, it makes a big difference with the algorithm.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  So with that being said, I appreciate it. Thank you for being a listener or a watcher. And let's get into the episode. Shawnee?

• 0:59Speaker 02

  Hello.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  Okay, so today, we're going to be covering something that I actually, it's like a phenomenon that I have been very, I don't know, I've been like completely vacant on, which is this whole phenomenon on Love Island. It's like a whole thing.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  It's a whole thing.

• 1:14Speaker 01

  Am I the only person not watching it that has absolutely zero idea of what's going on with this whole thing?

• 1:20Speaker 02

  No, I think a lot of people don't watch it, but honestly, it's just, it's a phenomenal show.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Different seasons, different seasons create better or worse seasons. Like it's not, they're not all equal. Like genuinely, there are some summers where Love Island is horrible and you just stop watching.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Okay, give me, hold on. Now you just, you just caught me off guard. How many seasons are there?

• 1:41Speaker 02

  On the UK one, they're in the teens. They're like a season 15 or something.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  Oh my God. So am I literally living under a rock?

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, it's been going on for a long time. I've been watching the UK Love Islands since season one.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Okay, so this is the thing. I don't have time to watch reality TV. I was never, I watched like The Real Housewives, probably the first two or three seasons for the New York one, maybe like 100 years ago.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  I don't have time. I would like to put it out there, like who has time? If you have, if you have kids and a career and all these things, who has time to watch reality TV?

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Well, you would say the same thing about people who don't have time to work out.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  No, I wouldn't, because that is really good for your mind and body.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  But to some people, that's a priority. Entertainment is a priority.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  Hold on. Reality TV is a priority? How does it, how does it make you better?

• 2:27Speaker 02

  To some people, they prioritize entertainment. And so it's just a matter of, I think what you have time for in life is just a matter of what you prioritize. So.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Yes, true, but I'm going to have to stop you there, because if you can actually sit here in, with a straight face and tell me, watching reality TV is the same kind of situation as like exercising, it's completely different.

• 2:48Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying it's a matter of prioritizing. I'm saying you ask the same question to a lot of people who say, I don't have time to work out. I'm a parent. I don't, I can't do this. So many moms say that all the time, or so many parents say that all the time. How, when you have kids, can you possibly get to the gym every day? Everybody uses that. So a lot of people would say the same thing. I think the response is the same response to both of those questions.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Okay, let, okay, let me just.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  In life, you have time for what you make time for.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  That is true, and I will have to agree with you on that. But I will say, the benefits of what you get from working out are very much outweigh what happens when you watch reality, when they're fighting and competitiveness and all these things. Okay, so that's the first thing. And I understand that people will watch it maybe kind of just to tune out and kind of just have something like, just to kind of get their mind off of whatever stress is in their, in their, in their life. Okay. With that being said, is Love Island like the biggest reality show right now? Whatever happened to like Real Housewives or Below Deck and all these other shows?

• 3:42Speaker 02

  It's hard to say what the biggest is, because when you're in it and you're in the fandom and you're like seeing all, like your algorithm is so full of that stuff, then for you, it's bigger. But I don't necessarily think, I don't, I don't think I can say.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Is The Bachelor still on?

• 3:54Speaker 02

  That's a good question. Actually, they did cancel a season of The Bachelorette with Frankie.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Oh, I saw this.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Taylor Paul or something like that. And honestly.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  She's the Mormon girl, right?

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I thought that that was the craziest thing, because they air movies, TV, sports games with plenty of people who've been accused and convicted of so many things. And yet this one woman who like threw a chair at a guy who's honestly super abusive already, like now has her entire season taken off. Also, it's reality TV. I don't want to see the morally ethical, like beacons of life on reality TV.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  True.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  I'm looking for Messi, like air that season. The fact that they haven't aired that season is crazy.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Well, I think it's because of the backlash they'll get. Like, I think.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  No, but they get so many viewers. Oh, the money they'd make.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  But hold on, hold on. This is a really good topic, and I'll tell you why. I know, this for whatever reason, I do know, because this is such a soul in the zeitgeist, I think why that was different is that she, the girl, whatever her name is, I think that not only did she throw a chair at the guy, but she did it in front of her kids. So I thought they thought that was like somewhat of abusive or, you know, very traumatic for a kid, obviously.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  But again, a lot of these same guys and men, I mean, the NFL literally is playing out every single game with at least somebody who's like been, you know, accused of serious domestic abuse.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Like that's so many NFL, that's true.

• 5:13Speaker 02

  Ridiculous.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  But I think ABC is a network that has to have.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  ABC that airs football.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Are they the, are they the, are they the, who does NFL football?

• 5:21Speaker 02

  I don't know, but they.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Who does Monday Night Football, I should say?

• 5:23Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, I'm just saying, all these guys are, all these, all these networks are the same, and they just will cancel some, but like, they just so frequently, women are held to such a higher account than so many of these guys who get away with so many more things. I mean, the fact that like all the wives of the men in the Epstein list are the ones who are being asked the questions about their husbands, I find so funny. But yet, none of the husbands are being asked any questions. Like, it's just hilarious. Melinda Gates apologizing for, I'm like, what the hell did Melinda do? Like, this is just weird.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  We live in an upside down world.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  That is another great point. This is why I like you, this is why I like you as my foil, because you have an opinion on everything.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  I do.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  And a good one at that, I think. I think that's actually very, I feel like that whole Epstein thing is very, it's become a very tired topic, but at the same time, it's extremely relevant. And I think everybody just tries, not everybody, there's certain people who in the, in the upper echelons just keep on trying to like put it under the rug. But yet, I think that's 100% true. Like why, you're right, you're seeing like, you're seeing Hillary Clinton on, being like basically cross-examined, like she's a criminal who murdered seven people.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  You see Melinda having to do it. But yet, I haven't seen one thing about, I haven't seen Bill Gates.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Nope, not one.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Well, I, that's not true. I have seen Bill Gates. I haven't seen Bill Clinton very often doing it. Well, I think.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  I haven't seen either.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  I still, I've seen Bill Clinton on a few different social clips, but yeah, I think that that's an actually valid point. But I do think it's, of course, it's like very flipped, but we're like, we're, this is a whole other podcast for a whole other day.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  I know, I know. Back to, back to reality TV. I can't tell you if Love Island's the biggest one, but I will say that, that it airs every single night. It's like five days a week that are fresh episodes. And so.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  Every night?

• 7:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, and there's also the US and UK seasons happening simultaneously. So I feel like that just culminates into a ton of social content, which then makes it feel like it's the biggest reality show right now.

• 7:18Speaker 01

  Because that's why, because I always see these clips that are referencing Love Island, and I have no clue what they're talking about at any given time. So you're telling me it's on every night, like it's kind of like Jeopardy. It's like the new Jeopardy or the new Wheel of Fortune.

• 7:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's every night except for like Wednesdays. It's not on, it's very sad on Wednesdays. And also, there's one episode each week that's like a recap show. It's like an after sun thing.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Where's, what network is it on?

• 7:45Speaker 02

  So the UK one is on Hulu and the US one is on Peacock. And why they're on separate networks is beyond me.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Really?

• 7:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  So which one's better?

• 7:54Speaker 02

  The production of the UK is significantly better. They, I mean, they started the show, they get the premise better. I think the US, the US production actually had somebody pass away on their production team this season. And I, I don't know if.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  What is the premise? Can you please tell me what the premise of the show is? It's everyone on an island?

• 8:10Speaker 02

  But I will say, the US team, like I think that they had, they took a toll on that production team, and I think it was worse this season because of that. I mean, that's my theory. So the premise is, you go onto, in, you're in a villa with a bunch of other hot people, and you're meant to couple up with somebody. And the idea is to find like your person on this, you know.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Island.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, during the summer.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  This is like the most cookie cutter situation. It's the same thing on The Bachelor, or the same thing on all these other things.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  It's like you have to find a couple, and if you're, if you're single, then you're vulnerable, and you can only recouple during recoupling ceremonies. And sometimes, you know, if the boys pick or the new, or the new people pick, then you're kind of like shit out of luck and you don't have control over the situation. So you might even be sent home, even if you're like with somebody and really connected with them. Like, there's so many different twists and turns.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  I thought you just said that the whole thing is that when you get there, you have to couple up.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Right, but let's say, for example, there's a recoupling ceremony and.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  What does that mean?

• 9:01Speaker 02

  That's, that's when they choose their couples. Like every few days or whatever, there's a recoupling ceremony where they get to either stay in their couple or recouple. But it's not just like, you know, anybody gets to choose and it's, it's all fair. Sometimes the guys pick, sometimes the girls pick, and almost always, the newest people that they send into the villa get to choose first. So let's say somebody comes into the villa and they really like the guy that you've been with for the last two weeks, and there's a recoupling, and they get to choose first. They might choose your guy. Now you're up there waiting to see who's going to pick you, and maybe nobody's going to, because you've been with this guy for a few weeks. You know what I mean?

• 9:35Speaker 01

  But can he say no and say, I want to stay with this girl?

• 9:37Speaker 02

  No, no. He has to then recouple with them. He could like quit the show and leave if his person like gets sent home, which has happened a couple of times, but not frequently.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  Really?

• 9:48Speaker 02

  People are in it for the fame more, so they want to stay.

• 9:50Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, this is actually, it's kind of like Survivor, but in for dating.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  Ironically, they film the US season on the same island as Survivor films. And so they sometimes have reported that they can hear, like Survivor contestants from one of their, like, things can hear the Love Island people while they're filming, like, partying and stuff. So imagine you're starving on Survivor and dying, and you hear a literal party happening on the villa of Love Island, like, you know, across the way.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Can you just jump over the ocean?

• 10:21Speaker 02

  No, but how hilarious is that?

• 10:22Speaker 01

  Run over? That is crazy.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  They're both on Fiji, yeah, yeah. But the thing with the show is it's changed so much over the years in terms of like the, just the quality of the actual dating aspect of it all, because it's become so much more of a launchpad for people's careers. Seasons one, two, and three of the UK were something else. Seasons one and two, they had absolutely no idea that they were gonna get famous going into that show. Season one, honestly-

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Is there anyone I know that's famous from that show?

• 10:49Speaker 02

  I mean, there's a lot, I mean, I don't know if you would know them, but there's a lot of people from that show that have, they've had mega careers. Anybody from the UK, from the first, like, ten, they're millionaires now. They all make so much money. Maura Higgins, all these people, they make so much money. They, in the UK, they became like the celebrities of the UK. Like, Love Island was the craziest launchpad for people, and so it became like a lot more about the clout. But actually, there's a few couples from one, two, and three that are still together, which is pretty amazing.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  How do you win? Is there like, is it a game?

• 11:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, so technically you can win, but it's only a hundred thousand dollars.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  But what's the game?

• 11:22Speaker 02

  And they make so much more after that in brand deals, it's like not even funny.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  No, I know, but what's the, like, what is like the goal?

• 11:27Speaker 02

  America votes for their favorite couple, but America always votes for the most annoying couples. They're so wrong. Their opinions are always so obnoxious. I actually can't stand the audiences often. I find that they're so, they're so easily manipulated. The audience is, I can just like predict everything that they're gonna think, and honestly, it always sucks. Like, it just always sucks. And they're so mean. I've never seen such a cruel audience. Three people from Love Island to date have killed themselves because of the turmoil and the insanity that comes from the fanbase of the show. Yeah, one of the hosts, Caroline Flack, she, she killed herself. These were more early days, though. And this guy Mike and this woman Sophie, Sophie was on season two, I believe, and Mike was season three.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Because they were, they were getting such bad, like, they were getting such-

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Such insane hate. Yeah. Mike's nickname to the public was Muggy Mike, which in the UK, to be a mug, or like to be mugged off means you were like embarrassed, or you were, you know, whatever, rejected by someone publicly, or whatever it is. And that was like his nickname to the public. I mean, this guy went through it from the fanbase.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  That's horrible.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Do they have a golden Love Island? Like, they have golden Bachelor?

• 12:34Speaker 02

  No, but that would be so funny. I would love to see that. That's actually a really interesting idea.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Right? I think so, because I feel like they do that for, I, I mean, they do that for The Bachelor, but I don't know how successful it is. I don't know if that part of the franchise is doing as well as the OG one.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  I don't know. I thought, I watched a couple episodes. I didn't love it. I was like, this is cute, but whatever.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, because you're not interested in old people.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  I mean, no, just like, I, I think, but I think the right cast could be good.

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• 14:55Speaker 02

  I will say one last thing, though, that I think is important. On the current season's big differentiations between UK and US that I've noticed within the actual cast-

• 15:04Speaker 01

  For Love Island, yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  The women on the UK season have been incredible at just being like, "Fuck you, I'm not taking anything from any of these guys who are gonna disrespect me, or be rude, or whatever." They just move on. They are so blunt. They're in their faces. They're like, they call things out. There's this one girl from Scotland, I forgot her name right now, but she's incredible. And really, they've shown such a high, uh-

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Standard?

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, self-respect. It's been phenomenal to watch. The US season, I actually have been honestly saddened to see, like, there are literally girls in there who are encouraging their girlfriends in there to stay with guys who have just been absolutely atrocious to them, walking all over them, lying to their face. And it's just been so disorienting. And the one girl in there who actually did stand up for herself all the time, and did walk away, and did like, you know, speak up for herself and have self-respect, is the one girl who all the fans seem to hate for no reason. And who all of the girls in the villa were giving her, Kenzie, I love her. I, I mean, I just, I just find that, um, the fanbase itself really needs to like take a look at itself before it engages online.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  Because some of these things that they put are crazy. A few of the US people came back and deactivated their Instagrams right away, because they were getting too much hate.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  Really?

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, crazy.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  So why do you think this show is like such a phenomenon more than, like, I know you're saying, I, so what I'm kind of hearing from you is it's because it's on five days a week.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  So the volume of shows, it's also you have UK and the US seasons are on together, okay? But besides those logistics, is there anything else about the show that you think kind of mimics, or, or like kind of mirrors, or something that's going on in our zeitgeist that makes people? Because I think in the real world, no one's really dating. So it's funny, everyone's on this love, on this island dating, but in real life, nobody's going out with each other.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  Well, I think, I, yes, I, I, there is things that are happening in the zeitgeist that happen in the show, and so I do think that's why it resonates a lot. But no one's dating, but they're still trying. Like, people are out here wanting love. Everybody wants love. And so they're watching a lot of the things that happen in the real world happen on Love Island. It's just kind of like a microcosm for the shitty dating world of today.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Yes, I totally agree.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  And you see it, you see it, and but you also see the way that, you know, it's like this girl Melanie, right? She's on the US season, and she's been so battered by this guy. And you can just see the light completely dissipate from her face from episode one to the end. And I think a lot of people can relate to that feeling. And so, you know, while we can all kind of get on her case about staying with him or doing this, so many people find themselves in a lot of these stories, and it's, it pulls you in. It really does.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Well, anything, it's like, it's an emotional, it's a, it's a, it's, what do you call it? Everything like that, like, pulls on your heartstrings, or curiosity of what's gonna happen. But I just find, again, that that's the one show I hear all about. The other one I hear a lot about is Love on the Spectrum. Have you heard of this one? This one is so popular.

• 18:13Speaker 02

  So great.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  People love it, because it's so honest and earnest. Have you seen that one?

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've watched a few episodes. I love how blunt they are.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Well, that's the thing. People love it because it's like real, because most of everything else you're watching is so contrived, so performative. And that's one show that you probably cannot be performative or contrive, because they are who they are, right? So people love it, though. People find it to be super endearing. It's like probably the number one show on Netflix.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  It's, it's great. It's fun to watch people just speak their truth without any regard for anything else. Like, they're just on it. They'll sit down, they'll be like, "I don't like you. I love it. I just-"

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Sounds like me, actually.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  And they're like, "I don't like you too. I'm not having fun. Let's leave," you know, like, they're just so, I mean, they just tell it how it is. I love it.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Sounds like you, too.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  It's great.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, we're like, maybe that's why I like resonate with, like, that's the one show, I'm like, oh, I would maybe watch that episode. Okay, so what else is there to say about Love Island? Is there any kind of, or anything about the reality world, like, reality TV?

• 19:17Speaker 02

  You know, well, you know, you used to have a podcast about reality TV for so long.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  No, I had no idea, actually.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  So the Sanyak podcast was about MTV's The Challenge, and we would cover other reality shows. But I will just say, like, this goes across the board for all reality TV. The audience needs to just take a beat. Like, they need to take the biggest beat possible, because they have to understand how much production goes into making it entertaining. You're filming people 24 hours a day, and you're giving us the juiciest juice, and you're trying to make it a storyline that is going to fire us up as an audience. The audience just eats it up, and they feed into all of the crazy things. So like, death threats, and hate, and this, that, and the other, you know, it's just par for the course for a lot of these people who go on these shows, and it's kind of sad to see, so I will just, I will end off on that.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Like, I think that is one of the most important takeaways that the viewers need to just come home with. If you're like on threads out there, I'm always on threads. I get all these thread suggestions.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  Who, A, has the interest or the time-

• 20:20Speaker 02

  You'd be surprised.

• 20:21Speaker 01

  To even like comment on this shit.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  I mean, they get deep.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  That's what I don't get.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  They start attacking families.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  These people need to get a life. I, I mean, I am, I'm, I'm just, again, you could say whatever you want, and you can say that, you know, whatever, you, people, everyone prioritizes different things. But if this is your priority to watch reality TV, you need to take a hard look at yourself. And then if you're someone also who feels the need to comment, like, comment and bully somebody, that's even more pathetic. I, I just think all of this is like, look, like, kind of like, work on yourself. I, I don't even know how people, like I said, I'm gonna start the podcast, I'm gonna end the podcast the way I started the podcast, which is, I don't know where people find the time. I honestly do not. Maybe because I'm too busy working out in the gym, five hours a day. No, I'm joking, I do not, so no, don't come after me.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  But what I'm saying is, like, this is, this is like the demise of, I think, our, our society and our culture, is that we, it's a comparison all day, it's feeling, it's feeling less than, it's looking at other people living their lives as opposed to living our own life. And so to me, this is just another example of how we get too invested in other people, and not enough, not invested enough in what we're doing and how we're doing it. So with that being said, maybe next time you wanna watch Love Island, maybe listen to a Habits and Hustle podcast.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  Thank you, Shawnee. We're gonna, we're gonna end it there, unless you have anything else you wanna add.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  No, I think that was good. I think just, you know, you can watch a show, but just do so with grace. Be kind.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  That wasn't my point, but okay, thank you. Um, and goodbye, everyone. Have a wonderful day or night, depending on when you're listening or watching, and don't forget to subscribe.