GEORGE CLARKE: Friends From Work, Being an Introvert & Why his Mum is his Hero

George Clarke is one of the biggest British social media stars of his generation, followed by millions of people online. He’s gone from posting funny videos in his university bedroom to making regular Sidemen appearances and reaching the Strictly Come Dancing final last year. George’s rise happened faster than he ever expected. What surprised me most, though, was discovering that behind the funny videos is a self-confessed introvert who’s had to learn to live his life in the public eye. In our conversation, George shares: Growing up as an introvert but always wanting to be a YouTuber His Mum’s health struggles & why she’s his heroHis thoughts on KSI leaving the Sidemen Why him and his friends started Friends From Work George was one of the nicest, funniest people I've had the pleasure of sitting down with, and I can't wait to see what he does next. George Clarke is Great Company. If you enjoyed the show, you can also follow us: Instagram - @greatcompanypodcast TikTok - @greatcompanypodcast Jamie - @jamielaing And if you've got thoughts, questions and comments, you can email us at: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] THE CREDITS Producer: Helen Burke Assistant Producer: Issy Weeks-Hankins Video: Josh Bennett Senior Social Media Manager: Laura Coughlan Audio: Rafi Amsili Geovannetti Shot on Sony Cinema Line cameras FX6, FX2 with Sony G-Master lenses 16-35GM, 24-70GM Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  But I've always been very grateful for the family that I've got.

• 0:02Speaker 01

  Your mum has experienced some health issues.

• 0:04Speaker 00

  She went into hospital, she was put into an induced coma. They then said that she had a twenty percent chance of living. You wouldn't have any idea if you met her because she's the most selfless, caring person ever. Like she brushes it off like it's sort of nothing, then comes out of hospital apologizes to us for what she'd put us through. And I think that really shows the sort of person that she is.

• 0:25Speaker 01

  The way you speak about your mum and the way you speak about it is so beautiful.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, she's, she's really amazing. Hi, I'm George Clark and I'm in great company.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  George Clarky for the first time ever. You were trying to find a beep in your garage.

• 0:41Speaker 00

  It's not here.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  For some reason, people loved it. For doing what?

• 0:45Speaker 00

  Exactly. This is, this feels like I'm now speaking to my grandmother.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  And you can monetize this, can you? Why do you start doing that?

• 0:53Speaker 00

  I used to always come home and just watch YouTube, Sidemen as well. Grew up watching it.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  What do you think about KSI leaving?

• 1:02Speaker 01

  No, don't put this up. Cam's down, cam's down. When you went on to Strictly, you decided to speak about your girlfriend.

• 1:08Speaker 00

  I did.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  You were like that dreaded curse.

• 1:10Speaker 00

  Of course. The press are gonna do all they can to find out as much as they can about me. I was like, if we have full control over it, then there should be no bad thing that happens.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  When was the last time you cried?

• 1:21Speaker 00

  Last week.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:24Speaker 00

  If you're at home looking at comments and stuff, it's not nice. Every now and then, comments just get a little too much. Oh, it was, it was a sad cry.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  What was the comment?

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• 2:41Speaker 01

  Guys, welcome back to Great Company. I'm really excited for today's episode because we have George Clark on. George is a YouTuber, he's a creator, he was on the final of Strictly Come Dancing, he did so well. You've probably seen his funny TikToks. Now, in today's episode, he opens up a lot about his mum, a lot about his past, and was just really open and honest and vulnerable, and it's incredible. Now, before we start, I want to ask two quick things. You guys are our incredible community, so we want to ask a quick question. What do you want to see more of? It can be guests, it can be more content of me, it can be anything you want, we just want to hear from you. So let us know in the comments what you want to see more of. And before we start, if you didn't click that subscribe button, it takes one second, it's completely free and it does us wonders. Okay, you've got all that information, let's go. Enjoy this episode of Great Company with George Clark.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  I was on TikTok, right?

• 3:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  And I saw this person give an idea on TikTok.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  That I thought was fucking unbelievable. I'm not even kidding you. And then I looked at the comments and everyone said it wasn't a good idea, but I was like, it's a good idea. This person said, why has no one ever created a gym? That if you don't turn up every day, you have to pay.

• 3:48Speaker 00

  That's, I mean, that is good unless you, but I thought then the clientele just becomes people that do turn up, so they just get free gym. I feel like that as a business model has a couple flaws, but I like it.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  I, I think it's a really good.

• 4:02Speaker 00

  It's good for, only if people who, maybe every year it's just new applicants.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  So you can only have it for a year?

• 4:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. So it's just like people who have had it as their New Year's resolution.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  Have you ever come across an idea on TikTok and you think, I'm gonna use it, that's a, that's a good idea?

• 4:19Speaker 00

  That's how I come up with most of my videos.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  That's good, I'll have that. No.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  That's nice.

• 4:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  I'm gonna just.

• 4:27Speaker 00

  I'll redo it with my face saying it. I, I don't know if I've ever, I don't know, my view page doesn't tend to be like very entrepreneurial stuff. It's more just drivel, real just awful shit.

• 4:44Speaker 00

  It's nothing to write home about. I, I've, I've tried to stop scrolling because I, I take, the only things I seem to take interest in are the things that regard me or my friends. So I've basically got like a fans view page, which I really don't want to have.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Because there's this like, there's this sort of like mayhem around you and your buddies. Like it's, it's crazy, dude.

• 5:10Speaker 00

  It's, it's.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  The fans that you have are wild over you guys.

• 5:13Speaker 00

  They, they're, they're, how, how the hell have I shoehorned this to go this way within, within two minutes? And nothing of other people's content, straight back here.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  I don't give a fuck about entrepreneurial shit. Listen, my fans, they fucking love it.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  No, it is, I mean, it's, I'm, I'm more than happy to have that. But it's such a nice sort of community to have built where they clearly do care, which is a, a nice feeling to have because some people, you could just click follow and then just sort of move on, but they do tend to care.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  You know, it's a huge leap to go from making your own content to then doing something like Strictly.

• 5:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, big time. I, I, that was.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Man, can I say, you were so, you were so freaking good.

• 5:56Speaker 00

  Thank you very much.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  I, I watched again today your rumba in, in week eight.

• 6:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Like, I've done Strictly.

• 6:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's tough.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  It's the scariest thing I've ever done in my life.

• 6:07Speaker 00

  So scary. I remember my first dance, I think for the first, because it started off with basically, I think the first four weeks, Alexis choreographed it, so I was on my own for the first, yeah. I, I choreographed it, so I was on my own for the first sort of like fifteen seconds and I was like, cool, I like, I love the choreography choice here, but I am terrified. We, we started off the first dance, it's very slow sort of movements, it's, just a very emotional, like sort of kind of got to give yourself to it. And it was like, this is my first bit of TV that I've ever done. This is such a new audience.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  What's your first bit of TV?

• 6:46Speaker 00

  First bit of TV I did, yeah.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  And so you've been completely in control of your own career. You're in control of your editing, you're in control of where you stand, where the camera angle is, everything, and then suddenly you're doing Strictly.

• 6:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, suddenly I'm on Strictly, I'm having to sort of give my heart to Miles Smith. I think I got to the corner and it was my first time I got into hold and I was like, I literally remember giving out the biggest like, and then finally kind of getting more into it, but it was the most nervous I've ever been. And that was the same for the first sort of two or, two or three weeks of it. It's such a difficult thing to get your head around. I don't know if you had the same thing.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  George, it was the craziest thing. For anyone who hasn't, lots of people haven't done Strictly, so.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  If you're listening and you haven't.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  But all of you, just the people who haven't done Strictly. But I, so I injured myself in the first year, right? So the first year I did it, I wanted to be a bit taller for my partner.

• 7:38Speaker 00

  Right.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  So I had Otie Mabusi as my partner for the first year and I wanted to be a bit taller. So I started wearing these things called insoles in my shoes, which I got from Amazon.

• 7:44Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  It turns out, you put them in your shoes and they make you taller, right? But it, but it's basically like you're wearing high heels, hidden high heels.

• 7:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then you put your Cubans on and suddenly you're even taller.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  You've got a lot going on there. But also when you do that, your, your plantar fascia ligament in your foot becomes like, it's, it's troublesome for it. So I tore my plantar fascia ligament. Yeah, doing Strictly the first year, which was not very good, like it was like a bad thing and then you can get something called floppy foot, it's all bad.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  Is that a technical term?

• 8:13Speaker 01

  It's a technical term.

• 8:14Speaker 00

  I love that you whipped out plantar fascia ligament and the next one's floppy foot.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  And then what happened was, I went back for the second year, right? And they said, right, we want to do this big opening, right? We want the, the Strictly thing to come down and it says, I think it was twenty twenty, twenty twenty, like, here we go, your first dance is. And then I do.

• 8:36Speaker 00

  You rip a floppy foot apart as you come through.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  I eat someone's foot and then like, I'm just throwing feet everywhere. They wanted me to do that, but I can't tell you, when you're on that stage and the person behind the camera is going, right, here we go, five, four.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  And then that red light goes on, you think, fuck.

• 8:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's terrifying.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  Fourteen million people watching me and I froze.

• 9:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  I didn't move and the music was playing.

• 9:05Speaker 00

  Jamie Laing.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  I froze like that and I was meant to do a move again by myself, like all of this.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:12Speaker 01

  And Karen, who's my partner for the second year, just went, come to me. So I just walked.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  But again, for all those novices who haven't done Strictly, everything's meant to be a movement.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Oh, big time.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  Everything's meant to be moving and I just walked.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  It's so, it's such a weird thing to get your head. I think the thing for me is, like, that I struggled with most was, well, outside of the dancing aspect, looking directly down a camera lens and like giving it your all. Because in my head, I'm like, this, this is just so not me, this is such a strange feeling. But the other, the other thing that was, I felt like the biggest, I don't know if you had this like realization as well, was when you're learning something, it's usually very step by step. You go for a recipe, it's very step by step. You do any sort of sport, it's like, this is the movement that you do.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:57Speaker 00

  And you would just think about that as you're doing it. But with dancing, it's very much like, here's your steps, we'll spend the first two days learning them, then you just kind of have to trust yourself and then feel the music, which is a really strange. But when I made that realization, I was like, obviously, because you look at these professional dancers, they're not thinking, well, left shoulder up, and then sort of, otherwise it would look so robotic.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  Sorry, that was unbelievable, just then.

• 10:20Speaker 00

  It's been a while, I wanted to whip something out.

• 10:25Speaker 00

  But it's, yeah, you just kind of have to, I'm saying this like I'm not a professional dancer. You kind of have to feel it, but that's kind of when I.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Felt the music.

• 10:34Speaker 00

  No.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I, someone said to me, do you not just hear it? And I went, no, I don't, I don't hear it at all. By the way, just a caveat, I got to the final.

• 10:45Speaker 00

  Congratulations.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  So did you.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  I was in the dance off eight times.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Really?

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Eight times, I was, eight times in a row.

• 10:53Speaker 00

  That's impressive.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  It was the record, yeah. It was a record by a long way. I was so bad, right?

• 10:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  That when I was in the semifinal, I was in the semifinal, a guy called JJ Chalmers. JJ Chalmers is a wonderful guy. JJ Chalmers had been, been to war in Afghanistan and is an incredible person, right?

• 11:10Speaker 00

  Hey, you make candykins.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  No, right, yeah, I thought that too. I went on to the betting sites to see what my odds were to win the competition. J J Chalmers, who had gone out in the quarterfinals, had better odds of reaching the final. And I was still in the competition, he wasn't. Like, the whole thing, and I was like, what is going on here? That's how much people thought that I wasn't gonna win. But it was like, I don't know, it was for me just the most amazing experience.

• 11:38Speaker 00

  It's such such a unique experience, isn't it? You can't really compare it to anything else because as well, people always say like, oh, you're still dancing. I'm like, I would love to keep dancing, but my experience of dancing could never be replicated. Because it's each week working towards something, you've got like the best dancers in the world teaching you how to do it.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  What do you think something like Strictly teaches you in life?

• 12:00Speaker 00

  I think for me, it was a very eye-opening experience with, number one, what I'm capable of. In terms of just like physically, but also like mentally as well.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Same as me.

• 12:12Speaker 00

  But just as well, fully releasing and doing a samba where you rip your shirt off. And you're throwing your hips about and you're looking at the camera dead in the face, I've shaken my ass at Craig Revel Hallward. But that is fully letting loose. And sure, people say I was bad at a samba. So what? I'm not a professional dancer. Like, it doesn't doesn't really matter that much.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  And isn't that what life's about? Life is really about letting go. And I think that sometimes what we do in life is we just hold on. We care what people think, we care how we're perceived. We don't, we stop playing like kids because we're worried about hurting ourselves or looking foolish or whatever it is. And actually, when we let ourselves go, that's when we like experience life in the best way.

• 12:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I thought, cause of all the dances I did, the samba was, I mean, everybody speaks about it on Strictly, like the dreaded samba. You don't wanna go near that, that's the most terrifying. And I was like, oh my god, we got this in the semi-final, this is horrible, I don't know what to do. I was ringing up producers going, this is a flex, you want me gone? Uh, I wasn't doing that.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  I bet you were a little bit.

• 13:16Speaker 00

  Just, just a little bit.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  I got the cha-cha.

• 13:18Speaker 00

  Strongly worded email. But I, I was so regretting, I was like so worried about that. But after doing it, it was one of my favorite dances, cause it was the most

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Challenging.

• 13:30Speaker 00

  Weirdly like liberating experience, just completely letting loose. I had the tightest outfit on ever, it was the most strictly outfit I've ever seen. Just beads dangling everywhere, the most lowest cut V to the point where I didn't even have to pull my trouser down, go to the toilet. It was just.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  Oh, you just pushed it down? Just pushed it down a little bit. Yeah.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  It was, it was, uh.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  But it had to get on your titties a little bit, just that.

• 13:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, just like an outfit that gets surgically removed. But it was, I loved it, it was so strange.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  When you went on to Strictly?

• 14:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  You decided to speak about your girlfriend?

• 14:07Speaker 00

  Yes, I did.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Cause you were like that dreaded curse.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  You wanted to keep your relationship private.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  I said to her, I was like, look.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Look, I don't want you to exist. But I'm gonna have to now.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  I've done my best to keep you under wraps. No, I was like, look, we, we're, we're going into this, the press are gonna do all they can to find out as much as they can about me. They're gonna find out about us, either we do it on our terms and I just say, got a girlfriend, this is who she is. And then there's no story to break, or they do what they love to do best. I just do far too much digging and just get a little bit invasive and it just becomes like, why? So, yeah, so I was like, if we have full control over it, then it's, there should be no bad thing that happens. And Lo and Ball, Strictly gets announced sort of two days later, sort of brushes over the whole girlfriend thing.

• 15:06Speaker 00

  And then the stories that break are breaking, Strictly stars girlfriend. And the internet goes, what? Man has girlfriend, you're kidding me?

• 15:18Speaker 00

  But yeah, no, she's amazing. It's, it's a hell of a baptism of fire to sort of, three or four months into a relationship, have to go through Strictly.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  It's a lot.

• 15:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, but no, she's amazing. We've, we're still going.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  What does she think about you doing Strictly?

• 15:34Speaker 00

  Naturally, anyone who's like partners on the show is gonna feel strange about it. Because dancers in the dancing world, it's just your partner, isn't it? But like outside of that, everyone's like, what the hell, we're so close, this is crazy. Um, and that's sort of the narrative that the public and comments and whatever like to run with. So it's definitely a, as much as it's a tough ordeal for the person who is in the training room every day. I know if you're at home looking at comments and stuff, it's not nice. So hats off to her.

• 16:08Speaker 01

  What do you think your love language is?

• 16:10Speaker 00

  Is it giving gift? Is that one?

• 16:12Speaker 01

  That is one.

• 16:12Speaker 00

  That's so nice, getting a gift. Is that, I'm, I'm getting a good one in this scenario. Giving gift as well, no, I do like giving gift.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  Receiving gifts or giving gifts?

• 16:19Speaker 00

  So, I, I love Santa. No, I think, gi- giving gift, I, I've, I've, is my, it's so nice. My, um, for Christmas, I, my girlfriend's a massive nerd, there's a sleepover that you can do at the Natural History Museum.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  I don't know, I'm whispering that.

• 16:39Speaker 00

  Calms down, calms down, I'm doing that.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  No, don't put this up. I've done it.

• 16:43Speaker 00

  Have you? It's so cool, isn't it?

• 16:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  But I did it when I was like twelve.

• 16:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, we, this was ages ago.

• 16:53Speaker 00

  No, but we, we went in, but it was the

• 16:55Speaker 01

  My imaginary.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  It was the adult dinos snores, dinosaur snores is what it was called.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, they had me at the pub. There was like a bar that's open all night, you can get drunk looking at dinosaurs and stuff, it's so cool. And then you just sleep underneath a blue whale. Yeah.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 17:11Speaker 00

  She loved it. And I was like, oh, that's amazing. She was like, this, you're gonna struggle getting a better present than this. And I was like, first Christmas, oh god.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Brilliant, that's like, that's, that is a good.

• 17:23Speaker 00

  Completed it, yeah.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  I might steal that, I might go for a dinosaur with my.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  Do it, it's good fun.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  That's so great.

• 17:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  I said I watched your week eight dance, which was the rumba.

• 17:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  And what was so beautiful about that is you dedicated it to your mum.

• 17:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  And man, it was like, just so special. But your mum has experienced some health issues.

• 17:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, she, she's, uh, gone through it. You wouldn't have any idea if you met her. Because she's the most selfless, like, caring person ever. Like, she would never bring it up, she wouldn't ever wanna make, anyone to make a fuss. In fact, the first thing she said after she left hospital, after, I think, three months of us going in sort of every day. When she had encephalitis the first time, uh, sorry, the second time.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  She just apologized to us for what she'd put us through. And I think that really shows the sort of person that she is. Yeah, no, she's, she's really amazing. So ba- basically, for anyone that doesn't know, encephalitis is, it's an inflammation of the brain. So it can affect anyone differently.

• 18:34Speaker 00

  So she had it two times. The first time it was a much more physical sort of, uh, it inflamed whatever part of the brain it was. That meant that she was on crutches for like about a month. But mentally, she got all her memories back. She was basically fine within like a couple of weeks.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  Cause it makes you lose your memory.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  But the second time round, um, it was much more debilitating. I was just about to go off to like a hockey camp, my dad was about to drive me off. Um, but he was like, oh, I'm just gonna go check on mum one more time, cause she was like ill upstairs. Went upstairs, she was having a seizure. He was like, okay, this is bad.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  She got, uh, ambulance came around, took her to hospital. She sort of looked at me on the way out and I knew it was bad because she sort of looked at me like a stranger. But you know, when you sort of look at somebody, you kind of like look through them. But she went into hospital, she was put into an induced coma. She was in, had tubes of life support, uh, keeping her alive for about a week. Um, and then for about three months, uh, I think this was after my GCSEs or like just another year before. Every day into hospital, uh, go and see her and you could see she was progressively getting better. She was up on her feet within sort of like three weeks, I think, but it was much more mental this time.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  So she'd, uh, a lot of her long-term memory had gone, she'd forgotten that her dad had died. So that was something I had to sort of break to her again.

• 20:02Speaker 00

  But her sense of taste, sense of smell is completely gone, uh, to this day. Just, it's never gonna be able to get it back just because of the way that her brain inflamed. Sense of direction is all off. If she goes to the toilet in a restaurant, she has to pick out landmarks so that she knows how to get back. Her sleep's affected, um, loud noises will immediately just like spike her heart rate. She gets so, like, gets shocked very easily. But there's a lot of stuff that she has to deal with, but as I say, you wouldn't know. Like she, uh, sort of brushes it off like it's sort of nothing, then comes out of hospital and apologizes to us. I've got a, a following now.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  I have like hats off to everyone who does it and, uh, uses their platform for good, sort of raising awareness of different things. And, uh, sort of pushing any, anything or any, like they believe in, in the world.

• 20:59Speaker 00

  But I've always sort of viewed my platform as a, as a place to escape from the world. I've never really tried to.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Sort of say anything political or do anything too ostracising. I want people to just sort of see it as a place because you don't wanna sort of open your phone and just be reminded. I kinda wanna my platforms to be a place so you could just kind of go and just try and get a bit of a smile and then sort of, sort of move on.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 21:23Speaker 00

  Uh, but sort of raising awareness for encephalitis is the kind of only caveat I've done to that, I guess selfishly, just trying to raise awareness for it.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Are you kidding me? I can't believe you, you even, George, you, you firstly, the way you speak about your mum and the way you speak about it is so beautiful.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  Sixteen years old is a tough age for anyone.

• 21:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  A lot of things are happening, let alone exams, let alone hormones, whatever it is, and then having to deal with that.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Man, I'm so sorry that your family had to go through that.

• 21:54Speaker 00

  As, as I said, I've, I've always been very grateful for the family that I've got and I've got such supportive parents, but I think it's made me have, have like a new sort of found appreciation for my dad especially. He went up to check on my mum, obviously, if he hadn't done that, um, for like one last time. She'd have had, been having a seizure whilst we're on a four, forty minute journey there and back to the little hockey camp that was going on. So God knows what would have happened there. He took her to the hospital. They just sort of sat her down, waited to be seated, waited to be seen to, and he was kept pushing to be like, I can tell something's not okay. And after sort of three or four times of doing that,

• 22:33Speaker 00

  they brought her in, um, immediately put her into an induced coma. Um, they then said that she had a twenty percent chance of living. He didn't tell me or my sister that. He sort of kept it to himself. I imagine he told his brother and whatnot, but sort of kept that from us. Made sure that we only saw her after she had the pipes taken out because he didn't want us to see our mum like that. Like he's just holding on to all this himself and meanwhile still not breaking down when he's with us. And it's, uh, I imagine an incredibly tough thing to do. And then doing the same, um, when she was diagnosed with cancer a year ago.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Just dealing with that. Um, you know, he's been through a lot and still having to go to work every day and deal with whatever's going on there. Um, but yeah, he's, he's amazing as well.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry.

• 23:31Speaker 00

  That's right. Yeah, it's, it's, I'm just.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Life.

• 23:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's annoyingly just life. I, you know, it's, it's upsetting that it's happened to such an amazing woman. Um, but I think the way that she is, um,

• 23:49Speaker 00

  she sort of gets a diagnosis and takes it on the chin and just thinks like, right, how am I gonna get through this?

• 23:55Speaker 01

  How am I gonna get through this?

• 23:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, um.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  How is her cancer diagnosed at the moment?

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Um, so they think she's all good. She's, uh, been to have like a scan and everything. They can't see any more cancerous cells, which is really good news. Um, she has had an operation which, um, she then got sepsis from. So she's have, just have a temporary stomal bag now. So, um, she's now dealing with that. Stoma bag then didn't, um, her body didn't, uh, like started kind of like rejecting it. So she couldn't possibly, like she can properly uh, process her food and everything. So she has to uh, put a drip on overnight every night now. Um.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  Wow, whatever, man.

• 24:37Speaker 00

  I know. And again, she's just, you would have no idea. She's amazing.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Doesn't even complain, just keeps going.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, she just keeps going for it. I mean, the strictly final, she, I wasn't aware of this. My family kept it from me because they didn't want me to know. She threw her cancer treatment, always had that as her goal to make it to watch me, uh, in the final if I got there. And I didn't know this the other day, uh, but she went straight from the hospital in Bristol to the show in London, um, and then had to go back again because she just really wasn't in like a good state to sort of be there, but she just really wanted to be there. Um, then went, I think had to go back to hospital after that. Um, basically did the same thing for my sister's wedding, um, with her, uh,

• 25:25Speaker 00

  stomal. She was so underweight, but, um, just wanted to be there, uh, cause her sort of wasn't getting the proper nutrients from all the food and everything, but she was just sort of firmed it and was there, um, didn't kick up a fuss at all. But yeah, she's amazing. So I've got a few plans in place to try and, uh, raise a little bit more money for encephalitis, uh, cancer research, stomal, I think it's stomal.org.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Man, you should sing that from the rooftop.

• 25:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, um.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Without like, without a doubt, it's an incredible thing to do.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  It is incredible.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  She's such an inspirational person. Like it's, it's very, everyone's got things that they deal with, like, um, and I think it's quite eye opening for me to sort of see things that I'm struggling with in life and be like, if you can get through that, I can get through anything. You just kind of, her sort of end goal keeps getting pushed back, but she keeps fighting.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Firstly, thank you for sharing that. And your, your mum's name is?

• 26:31Speaker 00

  Nikki.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Nikki, firstly, if you're listening, man, you're a rock star. What is the best thing about Nikki?

• 26:37Speaker 00

  Her selflessness, like she's just so willing to give her time and effort to people. Um, like she just genuinely cares. And I think anyone that's met her immediately gets that vibe from her. That she is just a genuinely caring woman who will put herself at the very bottom of her priority list. But I think her first chemotherapy, um, I'm not sure, session, um, she sat down, they gave her the cap to put on.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  I think she sat through eight hours, um, no breaks, went through the whole thing. And then afterwards they went, they said, the next time they said, oh, we're gonna give you a, a looser cap because that one was much tighter than we thought it would be. But she didn't say at any point, she was like, I'm just gonna get this done. This is what they've said I need to do. She had the, the tightest cap in the world with just freezing cold, whole head numb, tight, just just, just took it for eight hours. This, uh, this, this, I think is the, the most.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  That's insane.

• 27:45Speaker 00

  This kind of shows what kind of person she is. She, um, goes on a run most days.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  I was training for a marathon and I was like, mum, how much you, how much you running at the moment? Because I, I feel like you could do a marathon. She goes, no, don't be stupid. I can do a marathon. And like, but how much do you run? She wakes up at about four or five AM because she can't sleep. Goes on a run, does the same route every day.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:08Speaker 00

  And she, I was like, how, how far did you go? She goes, I don't know. I just sort of uh, run till, uh, when I feel done. I usually just sort of do a time. I was like, what sort of time is that? She goes like an hour and ten minutes. I'm like, right. And we worked out that she's doing about ten K every morning. Without no rest days. She's doing seventy K weeks. Seven, seventy K running weeks is like more than they tell you to do for a marathon trainer. That's just like not healthy. She's doing it and you know how people make running like their whole personality when they get into it, they're like, oh yeah, I've got these shoes, I've got this. She's, my dad caught her taping up her running shoes because she didn't think he needed to buy her any, anymore. She's, she's not, never utters a word of it. She goes, oh yeah, I just did a run this morning. I might

• 28:53Speaker 00

  do like a little seven minute workout later or something. And I, and I say to her, you could do a marathon. She goes, no, you're, what you're doing is way more impressive. I, I'm like, no, it's not, woman. She, that, that just like perfectly sums up the person. She is just downplays everything she does and just sort of puts everyone else on a pedestal.

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• 30:45Speaker 01

  Right now, I know that like if you're a social media creator or you're in business or you're in life. Like I've just had a baby, I'm married. That's kind of building, thank you very much. That's, that is kind of building my own personal community, right? Like that's, and I think community is so important, but how do you do that as a creator online?

• 31:02Speaker 00

  I think I'm, I'm not gonna sort of try and sit here and pretend I'm some kind of expert. But I feel like the way that, but if you buy my book, um, my, my, the way that I've always sort of tried to attack it is.

• 31:19Speaker 00

  Fundamentally, people look at like YouTube and TikTok stuff as like. Ask kids in school, it's like the top one thing that people reply with, like, that's kind of what I want to do when I grow up. Because it looks so fun and it is really fun, but only if you're doing what you want to do and you like, kind of keep it authentic to you. So that's kind of what I've tried to do with however, like whatever content that I post. It's kind of just what I have enjoyed slash I'm enjoying doing. And I feel like if, if that, if you can see that, it's because it's very obvious when someone isn't doing something that they want to do.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  So basically what you're saying is how you build community is you basically be your authentic self. If you're being your authentic self, then people who come to your community love you for you and they enjoy what you're doing. If, uh, if you were trying to do something because you think that's what you want to do or you want to be, then actually it doesn't really build a community. Cause you're sort of not living your authentic self.

• 32:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. When people say like, oh, what's the, what's the secret? I've got like two things that I always like.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  You get your cloak on and say, come here.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  Exactly, yeah.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Come on here.

• 32:24Speaker 00

  What's the passcode? But I've, I've got like two things I always fall back on. Number one is obviously the, the very cliche consistency. It's all about consistency, but I like the thing that for me.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  People don't read into about the consistency. It's not like just keep posting, more people will see it. It's more, you post four videos in a week. Every time you post, you've learned a little lesson from that. You've learned four lessons in that week. Whereas you post four videos in a month, it's taken you a month longer to, well, three weeks longer to learn what you would have in that time. And I thought that's kind of what made me understand TikTok more was I think twenty twenty-two. I think I posted five hundred and forty videos that year. And I kind of knew at that point by the end of the year, what would do well. And like, I had like my best months on TikTok that year. Then I sort of went off and did more YouTube stuff and whatever.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  And I've have no idea how to get views anymore, but the, it's, I think it is. That's kind of what I take from consistency. It's less.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  Just keep throwing it at the wall, see what sticks. It's more you understand more about what you're posting.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  That makes total sense. Do you think there's something in it where I, I saw a quote the other day, which is like, um, uh, something about. You, you can do a hundred, you can do a thi- one, one thing, I'm gonna absolutely murder this and I can't remember what it is. I don't know why I'm trying to do this. And here I go. Here I go.

• 33:54Speaker 00

  I'm ready.

• 33:55Speaker 01

  I, I'm really not ready because I don't know what I'm about to say.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  This is gonna be amazing, whatever it is. It's a new quote. You've got a merch sample either way.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  And by the way, it's trademarked. It's something like, if you do.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  This is going in a Hope Corps edit.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. If you do, do something a hundred times. I can't, I can't even, I don't.

• 34:15Speaker 00

  Full stop. That's the quote.

• 34:18Speaker 01

  Do something a hundred times, something happens. Do it a thousand times, that builds something else.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  That must be it. I can't imagine a way that that's, that's worded any better than that.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  I can't remember the ending of both of them. There's something profound at the end of both those things and I can't quite remember.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  Sort of along the lines of give a man a fish, something will happen. Teach a man a fish and something else will happen. That's genius. You know what? You fill in the gaps. You've given your person homework.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  And in the comments, if you give me feedback and I'll mark it.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  And then you'll just go, that's what it was. That's what I meant.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  And then I'll get you back on. And we'll start this whole thing again.

• 34:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  Hundred times you build consistency and the action becomes a habit. A thousand times you build mastery and the action becomes second nature.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Genius. And that's, that's amazing that you just pulled that straight from the top of the dome after. No, no level of prompting.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Sometimes that happens.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  It's genius.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  But I do think that it, cause, cause you, I remember when I saw you first on TikTok and it felt like it was like lockdown-ish time.

• 35:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  And you were trying to find a beep.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  In your garage.

• 35:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  And I don't know what it was about it, but it was so genius because, and I. It was so genius because there's humor, humor in it already, right? It's funny. You're trying to find a beep. Everyone's had that, everyone's experienced that situation when there's a beep or there's something going on. You're like, what is that?

• 35:45Speaker 00

  We've all been in a scenario where we're in our garage trying to find this beep.

• 35:51Speaker 00

  It's genius. It is such an overdone concept. I love what you did with it.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  You got cooking and then you got trying to find a beep.

• 36:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  We've had that moment.

• 36:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Where it was, oh, the beep coming from, right? And so it's relatable in that way, but also you had, the story of it was so great because it was that returnable thing. And it's simple, right? It's just trying to find a beep, but you knew that with that kind of thing would work, right?

• 36:19Speaker 00

  I, I mean, I kind of did. I'll be honest. I was, I just set myself this challenge. It started, um. In the last month I was at uni.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  Um, because I was like, this thing I've been doing for three years, that's clearly going nowhere. I need to find something. I handed my last assignment in and I was like, right, I'm here basically just going out. I might as well post a TikTok a day, see what happens. And it was going well. I left uni and I was like, I'll keep posting a TikTok a day. It then comes to being at home and I'm like, right, I have no idea what TikTok I'm gonna post. And my dad's just about to leave for work and he says, George, there's this really annoying beep in the garage. While I'm gone, can you just like try and find it? So I was like, all right, might as well film it.

• 37:04Speaker 00

  And then filmed it. For some reason, people loved it. It was like my best, to this day, people like, so crazy that this guy now is shaking his hips and it all became, came from him trying to find a beep. But literally, and everyone's like, oh, how like you obviously were sort of prolonging that. No, I was genuinely annoyed. I was in there for, I think accumulatively about like four or five hours, trying to find this beep. Wasn't prolonging it in any way. The way that I found it in the end was my sister came in once. Heard the beep a single time and just went, oh, it's a cross trainer.

• 37:40Speaker 00

  And then I was like, it can't be the cross trainer. Checked the cross trainer, took the batteries out. It was that.

• 37:47Speaker 00

  But for some reason, yeah, people hopped on it and just like loved it. That's the most like hype I feel like I've ever achieved in my whole career, if you can call this a career. And it's been, it was like three years ago.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  How do you feel when it went viral? Is it exciting? Did you get, is it like, um, what a lot of these things are a little bit addictive?

• 38:05Speaker 00

  It was, it was, it was, it was amazing. I was, I, I was still very new. I gained. I think in that week that it was going on, I gained two hundred and fifty thousand followers. And so I, but I started on like a hundred and fifty K. So that was like. Well, I think it might've been like two, around two hundred. So I at least doubled my followers in that week and I was like, this is mental.

• 38:28Speaker 01

  Sorry, you, you had a hundred and fifty thousand already?

• 38:30Speaker 00

  About a hundred and fifty, two hundred K.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  For doing what?

• 38:33Speaker 00

  Um, exactly. This is, this feels like I'm now speaking to my, my grandmother.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  And you can monetize this, can you? Yes, nanny can.

• 38:47Speaker 00

  But yeah, I, I mean, I would, I, I, the first thing I did was, um, basically living at uni, I was just living out the reduced section anyway. So I made a series where I said, let the reduced section pick my meal for me. And I went in, whatever was there would be what I'd eat. And then the top comment of that video would be the sort of criteria I had to add to it next time. But oh, it all has to be from the same cuisine or something. Just really fun, enjoyable content like that.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  Interesting thing for me is why do you start doing that?

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Honestly, I, even the first video that I posted, I wouldn't be able to tell you why I did it. Because growing up, such an introvert, still am. I wouldn't say I'm the most sort of extroverted person in the world. I'm quite a quiet person. But I used to always come home and just watch YouTube. That was like my main thing. I just stopped watching TV, just YouTube.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  What age were you at this point?

• 39:36Speaker 00

  Like year seven, maybe. So like, what, twelve? Like twelve onwards, which is just YouTube. I mean, that's like normal nowadays, but like sort of fourteen years ago, that's fourteen years ago, I was twelve. That's really a question.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Fourteen years ago, I was much older than twelve. That's even more depressing, I think. Sorry, yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 00

  I shouldn't play the, the old card here.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Um, no, I was, I was really young. I'm such a young person. I, uh, yeah, but I was just watching YouTube and that was kind of all I did. Not all I did. I went to school and stuff, but I'd come home that I'd just sit down on my little iPad mini and just watch all sorts of stuff.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  And who were you watching?

• 40:20Speaker 00

  One that pops to mind is a guy called Nerd Cubed. He'd play, he'd do like gameplay, playthroughs of different games. I'd obviously be watching like the Sidemen and stuff. Uh, Joe and Casper, all the sort of Brit crew, everyone, like, like all the different eras, I'd just be like watching through all of them. It was like really interesting to me. Um, to a point that whenever anybody used to ask me like, oh, like, what do you want to do when you grow up? I'd lie, but in the back of my head, I was like, I really wanna be like a YouTuber. But I, like, even at like family, like functions, just wouldn't speak. I, I, my, my auntie would be like, oh, you're not doing that yet. And I was just such an introvert, like, so posting made no real sense. So I don't know why I did it. Started posting. My hockey club found out about it at uni.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:03Speaker 00

  And that was, I remember being like, oh my God, they found out, like, I'm posting, this is.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  I've been discovered.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  This is awful. I think I had like twenty thousand followers on TikTok at this point. I was like, this is awful. And but that was the first time that I was like, that they were just like, you've got twenty thousand followers, that's awesome. And I was like, oh, it's, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. And I still hadn't even said, like, spoken a word on TikTok. It was all just sort of sounds and just sort of captions and stuff. And then I guess I got a bit more confident. I was like, oh, I'll speak on it then, I guess. Um, and that went down okay. Um, but yeah, like.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  That's kind of amazing, George, that, that social media, like, allowed you to come out of your shell a little bit.

• 41:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Which is amazing.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  My, my family have all sort of said it, like, I, they've noticed a change since sort of posting that I'm just a bit more confident.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  You know, you know, I, I, I speak to a lot of comedians and, and I, I would, i- i- in a way, you're not the traditional sense of comedian, right? You, you haven't been to stand up.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  No, I'm not funny.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  You're not just, you're not, actually not funny. But you, but you are, you're really funny. What you talk about is funny, what you write is funny. So you are the sort of new age of a comedian, right?

• 42:12Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 42:12Speaker 01

  In a way, and I remember speaking to Ivo Graham, who's a great comedian.

• 42:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Ivo is just genius in so many ways. And Ivo, uh, said, I asked him when, he started thinking that that's what he wanted to do. He was also really introverted.

• 42:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  And he, remember, he was watching something like, it was like Mock the Week or whatever on television, right? Cause YouTube wasn't really a thing when we were younger. And, um, and he was watching it and someone asked a question. Ivo responded what he would say internally.

• 42:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  And then the person on the panel said exactly what he had said internally. And he was like, oh, maybe I could do that.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  Maybe I could become this person. And that sort of humor, that sort of comedy made him also come out of his shell. In a way, which feels like sort of happened with you, but this new age of sort of comedy, social media platform, whatever it may be.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely. I mean, I, at school, never, like, when it came to picking GCSEs, didn't choose drama, didn't do anything, like, out there. Never really, like, everything that I was doing was, the only sort of, I guess, thing that I'd do, I'd express myself in would just be like playing sport.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  Um, never, yeah, like, so.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Just really introverted.

• 43:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I'm, amongst my friends and stuff, I'd sort of be a bit louder, I guess, but, yeah, in any sort of scenario, meeting anyone new, I'd just kind of be very.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  Quiet.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  So twelve years old, sitting in a room, watching YouTube videos, right? And wha- what is it? Because I think, for, for anyone who's part of the older generation listening, right?

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Wha- what has YouTube done for you growing up? Because for me, it feels like an interesting space where kids or teenagers who maybe felt like, like, introverts or didn't find their people could go sit at home in their room, click on a screen, watch the likes of the Sidemen or whoever it was, Joe and Casper. Feel connected and feel like you were part of a, a community, right?

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's a strange one because, I mean, the original tagline for YouTube was broadcast yourself. So it's, it's all, it's felt, it feels much more personal than, uh, say a TV would. Because a TV, a television show, uh, would, like, it's, it, it's very much, they put the camera down, you know, that's exactly what they wanted to film, they've edited it, they've given it to you and, there, at the time, there wasn't a, a, a incredible abundance of creators on the platform. So everybody was kind of watching the same people and it would be, that would feel like much more a sense of community than if you, I guess, switched on the TV and you just,

• 44:54Speaker 00

  forced to watch whatever is on the channels that are there. You can kind of, it was the first, I guess, Netflix in a, in a regard where you can kind of pick more.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  What you wanted to do.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  What you want to watch. Um, and yeah, it was just, it just felt very fresh and very, like, TV is obviously very polished. It's, there's so much production that goes into it, whereas that is just, people having fun in front of a camera. And I guess, kind of, I, I feel like the self, or it's probably that it feels like you're hanging out with them. When you're, not necessarily that you don't have your own friends to hang out.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Nobody feels like you're hanging out with them.

• 45:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  I had Italian Bachelor, right? Isaac, right? I had him on the show and also, you've heard of him?

• 45:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  And, um, I've spoken to Nico a lot.

• 45:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  Right? And now speaking to yourself, it feels like a lot of the sort of people who are creating good content and getting seen out there, had this obsessive nature with YouTube when they were younger.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Because it feels like if you were, if you were obsessed with it, you've had to been obsessed with it from a young age. So you understand it. Once you understand it, you can go in and start creating content on it. Do you kind of agree with that?

• 46:03Speaker 00

  I think fundamentally, it's all about, the, the obsession then becomes like a passion for making it yourself.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Cause at no point was I sort of tactically making decisions to try and grow or, uh, to like make it my job. I think I hit a million followers before I could class it my job on TikTok. Like, I didn't sign to a management until after a million followers. So it was, up until then was all literally just, I'm really enjoying making videos. It's really fun to see people are enjoying watching them.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Were you making money?

• 46:37Speaker 00

  Um, I think through the, it was through the Creative Fund, which at the time they hadn't upped it to, there was a point where it was over a minute meant that you earned more money.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  Um, I was making videos over a minute, just like the whole time. Cause I, that's kind of what made me wanna do the transition to YouTube. Cause I'd be filming stuff and I'd have it at like four minutes and I'd be like, I need to cut this down. I'd already cut down a lot of mine. Really need to try and, sort of tune this, uh, to a shorter video.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  With something like TikTok, right? Which is where you started on. That sort of, having the understanding of YouTube, knowing that from a young age, then creating like this, having this obsession with TikTok and then making that into YouTube, right? I know there's a lot of people I speak to who always feel like they want to just land and create content on YouTube. But they don't know how to do it because they haven't been obsessed with it. I think the people who are successful are the ones who've been obsessed with it from a young age. Like Nico, I, when I speak to him, he's like made videos for the last like twelve years.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  Right? And people see the success now or the videos they make, the videos that you guys make together, right?

• 47:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:38Speaker 01

  But actually, it's been the obsession since you were twelve years old, sitting in your bedroom, having that obsession since then.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Right? People can't just go into it and just start making videos because they don't understand how it works.

• 47:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  And that's kind of the fascination I have with it.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  It's, yeah, it's, it's strange. Cause I feel like the people that tend to do very well are like obsessed with it. You're obviously, you're gonna have outliers who, just can post whatever and people tend to just like it. But I feel like, say, you'd be, be silly to go into any field and think that you can just pick it up and get going.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  When you were at university and the hockey team found out about you posting videos, right?

• 48:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  What was the fear? Why were you worried? What was it? What were you worried about being found out about?

• 48:19Speaker 00

  I think it's probably just, people thinking like, what is he doing? Like, what is he trying to achieve? Like, as soon as you actively try something and put yourself out there, you are, allowing criticism. But there's fundamentally not really anything to criticize about someone posting. I mean, especially nowadays, everybody's posting something. Um, and realistically, I think, if they are gonna be criticizing you for, unless you're doing something mental online, there's, they're probably not the people that you wanna be surrounding yourself with anyway. But it, it's, it's just a, I, I guess from being someone who,

• 49:02Speaker 00

  never performed or did drama or did anything where I was just like giving a performance to someone, which I guess what a video is.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  It was, it felt like a very alien thing to do. Um, so I guess it was, it was a fear of people looking at it and think, he's done that wrong.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  And judging it.

• 49:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:25Speaker 01

  With your friends on the internet. Are they your friends in real life? Are they your friends? Because I love your channel, which is Friends From Work.

• 49:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Such a brilliant title. Where did you guys meet? When did you decide to start this channel? What happened?

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Um, we just met through, like, all doing YouTube videos. We met in, either at different shoots or at different parties where our paths crossed. Um, and we all got along.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  YouTube parties? Where can I get an invite to that?

• 49:51Speaker 00

  I mean, there's, I can't think of any more that actually have, not just because you've asked. Oh, so annoying. They've just stopped.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  Either that or I'm not getting invited anymore.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, they.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  I reckon it's the fucking Sidemen that threaten them.

• 50:06Speaker 00

  Exactly. Yeah, we just sort of meet and we then started making various, we'd sort of appear in various videos together, start making videos together. And people tend to like our vibe. And I think that's because we are, as you sort of questioned, just genuinely friends. Which I think is quite nice about the YouTube, the UK YouTube space, is we do all like hang out, like.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  It feels friendly.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, like it is very much. It's obviously transactional, like there's, um.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  Glad you said that.

• 50:38Speaker 00

  You gain things from.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Purely about cash.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  It is transactional. They do give you a couple of grand per foot. No, they, it's, you obviously, I'm not stupid. I know I gained things from being on their channel and vice versa. You just sort of expand your audience. But once you're there, it is very much just friendly. It's not just like seen as a, like a way to gain more followers. And I think if you asked anyone, they, now they wouldn't get anyone on their channel who they didn't get along with.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:09Speaker 00

  Because it's very obvious. It's very obvious in the content. Like you can tell if it's a video where you just have to, you get abandoned in a certain place, you have to go all the way back. That's a stressful situation as it is. If I have to try and pretend to like someone for 14 hours, that's like, what are we doing here? That, that, that's also no longer a fun job. YouTube's supposed to be fun. That's, that's what it's like, sort of paying out to be.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Who came up with the name? Who brought the group together?

• 51:32Speaker 00

  We, um, had so many names, all of which just awful. So is Friends From Work. What the hell are we doing with our lives? We genuinely, I think we went on Chris's birthday trip to Amsterdam.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  And he didn't speak the whole time because we were just speaking about YouTube names. Him not being part of the group. We, we, I think, uh, Jane, probably accumulatively about four or five hours exclusively taken on group names, which is mental to anyone who's heard our group name of Friends From Work. So like, that seems just the most obvious thing in the world. But I think we had Room 108 at one point. I don't know why it was called Room 108. We said, oh, we, we did a stream in a hotel room in Prague. We can say that was where we thought to make a group channel. That wasn't the reason. We just thought that's funny and Room 108 sounds quite cool. Um, Arthur TV was big on The Lost Boys for a while and that immediately just got put in a bin because what is The Lost Boys? That's, that's ridiculous.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  From Peter Pan, huh?

• 52:30Speaker 00

  We had 4FM as if we were like a radio show. I, there was, what I quite liked, there was, um, I think Arthur Hill put forward Postnut Productions.

• 52:44Speaker 00

  Don't know what it means, but it, it works quite well as a.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Postnut Productions.

• 52:48Speaker 00

  I quite like it. It's just, it flows quite well.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  On Made in Chelsea, I called myself, my friend Oliver Prouder from France, and we called ourselves The Lost Boys.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  That's good.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I, and I even got a tattoo of The Lost Boys on my arm.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  As I was saying, Lost Boys, great, great name. Good name, Lost Boys. Unfortunately, um, they wouldn't let us have it.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  The, you've made some contact with the Sidemen?

• 53:11Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  You know, being 12 years old, sitting in, watching the Sidemen and then suddenly doing a video with them. How weird is that?

• 53:16Speaker 00

  It's so mental. I remember the first time they asked me to be in a video. I mean, it's the same with Chris because I don't know if I've ever said this to Chris, but I think I've said it on a few podcasts now, but I've never said it to his face. I literally live with the bloke. I have done for the last two years. Think another year on the cards. Um, growing up, Chris genuinely my favourite YouTuber.

• 53:39Speaker 01

  That's so good.

• 53:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, don't meet your heroes though. Honestly, awful bloke. But he, he, yeah, I love watching his videos. I still love watching his videos. Yeah, Chris MD. Um, but yeah, Sidemen as well. Grew up watching them. I, I think they must have had some late pullouts because Vic messaged me on Twitter, I think it was. This shows how little contact they had with me.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  Um, like two days before the shoot, like, like, mate, you around here? At those days, I was like, yes, I'll drop everything, Vicstar123. So, um, turned up. Um, I think it was, I think there was five of them there.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:20Speaker 00

  And yeah, there was five of them there and I was on a team with the other, uh, Ethan and Simon. And the other three were there and it was KSI and Rota Shore Control Our Days. Um, and I was, I was like, what is going on? I'm here with the worst Sidemen. This is awesome. Um, that's a joke by the way. Um, yeah, I was just like this. I really don't know what to do. This is so scary for me. I've.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  And it's so intimate watching the YouTube in your bedroom, right?

• 54:49Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  It's your own experience.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  And then it's not like you're watching, I'm a celebrity or something on the TV with your family in a sitting room. It's like a real personal experience. So it's even weirder.

• 54:59Speaker 00

  Exactly. You get to know the person more on YouTube. Number one, there's more, well, unless you're me, there's more content of them uploaded on the internet. Uh, I need to get my upload scheduled by then. Um, but they, when they do upload it, you tend to understand more about them as a person. They're not in a presenting role. They're themselves.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:20Speaker 00

  Um, which I think is quite a nice aspect of YouTube is that if someone recognizes you and they go over and they say, oh, I love your videos and stuff, like it feels much more personal.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  What do you think about KSI leaving?

• 55:36Speaker 00

  I wouldn't know what goes. I mean, I'm contemplating leaving Friends From Work. I, uh, I think he, you know what, he's, he's, it's incredible to think how long they were going, doing the videos that they were, like seven people's calendars as they're all getting bigger, doing better things.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  And they were doing two videos a week?

• 55:56Speaker 00

  Uh, well, yeah, they have a Sidemen video a week. They were filming all the BTS of all their Sidemen videos. They got, I think like, at one point like three more Sidemen videos going out a week. Sidemen reacts every day. Like, it's a hell of a slog. So, I mean, I know he's caught some flack for whatever reasons. He's said full leaving, but there's,

• 56:20Speaker 00

  someone's gonna leave first. And I think whoever's gonna leave first is always gonna bear the brunt of it. But I think it's more just impressive that they managed to keep going for, what is it? 10, 11 years? They did all seven of them. That's ridiculous.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  Insane. But I feel like, um, Friends From Work, the, the numbers that you guys are getting is getting pretty big.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  It's.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  It's getting up towards that million views.

• 56:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:42Speaker 01

  An episode mark.

• 56:43Speaker 00

  Where, yeah, that's kind of, that was our aim at the, when we started, like by the end of the year, we were like, if we could get like a million views on a video in like a week, that's cool. That's really cool. People clearly like them. Um, it is, there's learning curves. There's learning curves with sort of going from you being the only person who's got any say in your videos to suddenly three other people. You learn what the audience actually wants to see from you guys. You're putting more content out because it's once a week.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  Rather than in the nicest way, a hobby, it becomes more of a job?

• 57:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, like it, obviously you can, you can enjoy your job. Like there's, there's, it is so many levels of enjoyment to it. We genuinely love making the videos. We've now got an office. We're trying to build out more of a team. We've got a producer or two, maybe. We've got, uh, it's just like, there's, there's definitely been weeks that we've missed an upload. Whoops.

• 57:40Speaker 01

  I haven't noticed that.

• 57:41Speaker 00

  No, thank you very much. Uh, many, many people have. Yeah, we kind of just want to make videos that are an excuse for all four of us to just have a laugh because that tends to be what people like to see on the videos.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  But also like, just a little bit different. Yeah, we do a cook-off, but we do a cook-off where we're not allowed to use the kitchen. So we just spoil some poor person's Airbnb for the day. We just, it's just so many just silly ideas. I think we've got stu-, we, we played dodgeball where every time we got hit, we got drunk. We got drunk. We, we did get drunk, but we got, we took a drink every time we got hit.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Very good.

• 58:19Speaker 00

  Ended up just being pissed out our minds, playing professional dodgeballers by the end of the day.

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• 59:31Speaker 01

  We like to end the conversation with eight quickfire questions.

• 59:34Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Are you ready for this?

• 59:35Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Here we go. What's a saying or phrase that makes you smile or cheers you up?

• 59:39Speaker 00

  The present. What the fuck?

• 59:41Speaker 01

  Oh, this is gonna be good.

• 59:42Speaker 00

  This is the Kung Fu Panda, right?

• 59:43Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 59:45Speaker 00

  Don't forget about the past or the future. Life is a gift. That's why they call it the present or something like that?

• 59:51Speaker 01

  I know.

• 59:52Speaker 00

  That was Master Oogway.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  Oh my god, it's, um, a present is called, then that's why it's called the present. Oh my god, these quotes that we've really nailed.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  I'm pretty sure it was 100 minutes gets you a gift and then the thousands.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why it's called a present.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  Who was that? Me? Well, I've just slipped. Really cool.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  What's it? No, what's it? Who's that?

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  I'll just chill here.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  Me? Wasn't that the quote you were saying?

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that was, yeah, that was Master Oogway.

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  Best compliment anyone's ever given you.

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  Someone saying you smell nice is really good. I love getting cold. I smell nice.

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  What clone do you?

• 1:00:25Speaker 00

  Ooh, I'm, do you know what? My favorite one I use is Joe Malone, the one that.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  You said that. Joe Malone.

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  Joe Malone, where you can use Clark Tenner, no. My favorite one's Joe Malone. The, uh, it's got a picture of Tom Hardy was wearing it. So I was like, I wanna be like him.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  What scares you most about yourself?

• 1:00:44Speaker 00

  Do you know what? I was in the toilet and I heard you ask this question to someone else.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  We play our podcast.

• 1:00:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  What was that? So you're gonna use it?

• 1:00:52Speaker 00

  Theirs was, theirs was their ego. And I, I quite, I, I feel like I do a fairly good job at keeping control of it. But that's my one thing is I don't like when people believe that they're all this and then they are like, I, that's not something that I wanna become.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  Robert De Niro, I think, said it the best, which he was like, uh, when you're, when you're, when you're at your peak, stay cool. And when you're.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  I love the amount of quotes that we've tried.

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  I was gonna literally destroy it. I was expecting the De Niro face as well.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  And he said, stay cool, when you're at the top, stay cool. And when you're at the bottom, stay cool. Always stay cool.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, that's like part of the authenticity thing, isn't it?

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  You've got to.

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  Try and be yourself no matter what happens, which I try and do.

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  And also Neil Patrick Harris came up. He said, Neil Patrick Harris said that the entertainment industry would just, it's like you're surfing and you, and you're paddling out and you're doing it and then you catch a wave and it's unbelievable and it's so great and it's wicked and you're surfing and everyone's looking at you and it's unbelievable. But then at some point you crash into the beach and then you have to swim out again. It's a constant thing of doing like that. So whatever you're doing, just enjoy the ride.

• 1:02:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  And it's kind of a good way to look at it. That was a much better quote. I had it in, enjoy the ride. He didn't say that, but I put it in.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  That was my favorite bit.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  When was the last time you cried?

• 1:02:17Speaker 00

  Last week, maybe?

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:02:21Speaker 00

  Every now and then, comments just get a little too much. It was, it was a sad cry. So I think what gets me is when it's a comment that I already thought about myself. Cause it's like confirmation as opposed to like a, what are they on about?

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  What was the comment?

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  I think it was something like, like, does anyone else think he's, George, get a bit stuck up? I was like, I don't really know why I get that, give that vibe, but.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  You don't give that vibe at all.

• 1:02:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, so I was, people are entitled to their opinions. So I, it's how you can put your opinion on the internet. But other days, I wouldn't care. That day, maybe it was just enough, you know, things get to you in life.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  What's something you can't let go of?

• 1:03:03Speaker 00

  Craig, just not whipping out that ten paddle. Um, I guess it kind of relates to like dancers in strictly, well, when I went wrong and I was like, I know I've done that so many times right. I feel like I can't let go of when I've not shown the best version of myself or what I think I'm like capable of.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  What's your guilty pleasure?

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  I don't, I've, I don't know if it's very guilty. I just go down different niches of YouTube. I watch all sorts. I've, my, I've been scrolling AutoTrader recently because I've just got into a guy who likes, who rebuilds crashed damaged cars on YouTube called Matt Armstrong.

• 1:03:40Speaker 01

  Is it good?

• 1:03:40Speaker 00

  It's so good. I have no knowledge of cars whatsoever. And then I've just been like, oh my god, he builds cars so well. I wanna get a car. I don't need a car. Maybe that's my guilty pleasure. I'm in the process of wanting to get a car.

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  What is the niches things you watched on YouTube?

• 1:03:56Speaker 00

  This might be a guilty pleasure because I guess it's like a negative thing. But the, um, everything wrong with insert film title in something minutes or less. I love watching them.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Wait, hang on. I don't understand what you even said just then.

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  There's a, there's a series, there's this guy called Cinema Sins and he just goes, he uploads his critiques of films, but he just goes everything wrong with Interstellar in 30 minutes or less and then just uploads it and then he just.

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  Does it?

• 1:04:22Speaker 00

  Critiques it. I'm like, I watch it and I'm like, I don't even know if I, I've watched it on films that I've not even watched. I don't know if I agree with this, but.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  Something stimulating about it. Something soothing almost.

• 1:04:35Speaker 00

  Something I quite like about it, it just, is just like, yeah, that's shit. Ding, that's great. Ding. And I'm like, cool, that one was like 300 sins.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  This is a side question. Favorite YouTuber that everyone knows and favorite YouTuber that you want to shout out that no one knows?

• 1:04:49Speaker 00

  In terms of a video, videos that I just will always click on, I think I've got like a top three.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  Give me the top three.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  Ryan Trahan.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  Very good. Great storyteller.

• 1:05:00Speaker 00

  Incredible YouTuber. Nico Amalana makes very good videos. Such a good storyteller.

• 1:05:04Speaker 01

  Again, great storyteller.

• 1:05:05Speaker 00

  And gotta shout out Chris, Chris MD. He makes, is the edits of his videos. I know he looks so like, it's, it's, everyone hands it to his editors. His editors are incredible, but he's also heavily involved in the editing process and the videos that you can tell are still just his, which I really like. He's got a level of production. He's got so many people working on it, but he's the driving force.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  And someone that we don't know that you wanna shout out?

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  Recently, I've just been watching like really big YouTubers that I just weren't, wasn't aware are a thing. I've delved into a bit more into like American YouTube recently that I've just.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  And you like it?

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm just sort of taking notes.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:05:47Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. That's how they've made this video. This is how they've sort of branched it out. Yeah.

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  What's your biggest turn off?

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  Arrogance.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. Great one.

• 1:05:57Speaker 00

  Not a fan.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  What's your biggest turn on?

• 1:06:00Speaker 00

  I think.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Fixing cars.

• 1:06:04Speaker 00

  A good exhaust. Yeah. Carburettos. I, I think, like, I don't know. This is a strange, when someone's just got good energy.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:14Speaker 00

  It really like just lifts. Like when I first saw you in the room then I was like, oh, he's coming. Like that's, that lifts you up. You can tell when someone's got like good energy and it just.

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  It's magnetic.

• 1:06:25Speaker 00

  What I like about it is it's something that I feel like a lot of people would aspire to have and be. And it's like, there's a, there's a level of like, I don't care what people are gonna think. I'm just gonna give this energy to the world.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Man, it's my favorite thing in the world. People who give off great energy is, it's the best. It's, it's like, it's like a radiator. It's magnetic. I love it. It's my favorite thing in the world. What do you like most about yourself?

• 1:06:50Speaker 00

  I think I won't give up on something. Like, no matter if I'm bad at it, it's not going, sometimes if it's not going anywhere, that's, I guess not a good thing. But I just, I, I hate not being able to do something.

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:14Speaker 00

  And I will just keep digging ales and going at it.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  And it's a great lesson for so many people because people give up too early and you gotta keep going. You gotta keep going. You gotta keep going. George, honestly, you've been unbelievable. Bonus one, uh, the shag, marry, avoid.

• 1:07:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  Italian batch.

• 1:07:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  Both Arthurs. Shag, marry, avoid.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  This is a good question. I think.

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, really think about it. We'll start with who you're, who you're marrying. No, let's start with who you're getting rid of.

• 1:07:47Speaker 00

  Wow, okay.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Save the best till last.

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm going to, I'm going, I'm currently going to avoid Arthur Hill. He has, he's got a whole load of ailments currently.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  He's torn his ACL.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:04Speaker 00

  He's got the hips of an 80 year old.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Speaker 00

  He just needs to be looked after.

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  I'm not gonna get in the way of that.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  You don't want it. And it's, it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a bird.

• 1:08:15Speaker 00

  I don't wanna get into a relationship where I'm having to deal with that on, from the get go. Neither do I want to shag that.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  It's a very fair, um, very fair judgment. So who are you shagging?

• 1:08:33Speaker 00

  I think I will have to shag Arthur Television.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Speaker 00

  Do you want positions or?

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  I just want reasons.

• 1:08:42Speaker 00

  Just reasons. Okay.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  Positions, obviously missionary, but that's.

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, just keep eye contact. Uh, make sure that he's enjoying it.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  As you are.

• 1:08:52Speaker 00

  Of course.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  I think.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  Reasons.

• 1:08:56Speaker 00

  He's got an incredible body on him.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 00

  I'd, I'd love to.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  Get your hands on that.

• 1:09:07Speaker 00

  Just get five minutes with that. Uh, yeah, I think I would have to just shag him because I don't know if I could deal with him in day to day life.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  Nice. Yeah, yeah. But then you're marrying.

• 1:09:23Speaker 00

  I am marrying Italian batch.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  And then reasons?

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  Because if willing, shagging comes as a caveat to that. So, you know.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  You get the best of both worlds.

• 1:09:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, that comes in the specs. Um, he, he's a, he's a caring, loving individual and I could be the voice behind the camera. Not in the shagging.

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  George Clark, you are fantastic company. Thank you so much.

• 1:09:53Speaker 00

  Thank you very much.

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