Pod Insights Good Hang with Amy Poehler Julia Louis-Dreyfus About this episode Julia Louis-Dreyfus has a lot of pictures on her phone. Amy hangs with the Wiser Than Me host and talks with her about being the LeBron James of TV, going to Paris with Ina Garten, and how long they would last on 'Alone.'
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0:38 Amy Poehler? Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We just have such a pro. We have the queen. We have just the hilarious, incredible, inspiring Julia Louis-Dreyfus joining us today. And we talked to Julia about so many fun, good things. We talk about season four of her podcast, Wiser Than Me. We're going to talk about her Emmy domination and how she just beat me year after year. We're talking about how many photos we have on our phone. And spoiler alert, I have more. And you're going to hear her reject my idea that she is the LeBron James of television. So, great episode coming up. But before we start, we always like to check in with someone who knows our guest,
1:23 Amy Poehler? who has a question to give me to ask our guest. And we have an incredible, sweet, super talented, hilarious Tony Hale joining us. Tony, who you might know from Arrested Development, Buster Bluth. What a character. He played Gary on Veep, incredible character. He is the voice of fear in Inside Out 2, incredible character. We love Tony. And let's check in and see if we can hear him from his incredible studio. Tony.
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2:43 Amy Poehler? Are you in a booth? In a recording booth?
2:46 Speaker 01 OK, this is a little booth I made in my house. And if I really showed it to you, you'd be like, oh, that's sad. Tony needs help.
2:54 Amy Poehler? First of all, everyone now, you're nobody if you don't have a booth in your house.
3:00 Speaker 01 Really? I'm ahead of the game?
3:02 Amy Poehler? This is like, feels like a COVID, you know, thing. You build a wall and you make it soundproof and you start a podcast.
3:11 Speaker 01 Soundproof-ish. If I really showed it to you, go, oh, I get it now. That's a, that's a, he's in the witness protection program.
3:18 Amy Poehler? Oh, it's so good to see you. We first met on the set of Arrested Development back in whatever that was.
3:26 Speaker 01 Yeah. Actually, was that, I think.
3:28 Amy Poehler? Was that the first time?
3:30 Speaker 01 I think we might have first met when Martel was on SNL. Because my wife was a makeup artist on SNL. And I think, but I was, I was just the guy next to her that was like, oh, I'm not gonna say anything. I'm not gonna say anything to Amy. No, no. And so I don't know if we actually met, but I just kind of probably stared at all you guys.
3:47 Amy Poehler? Yeah, your very talented wife Martel was a makeup artist during my years at SNL. And, um, and then we got to know each other on the set of Arrested. And I mean, Buster Blues.
4:00 Amy Poehler? What we'd let, we need a movie about what's on going on in his head.
4:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, there was a lot going on in his head and and he could barely get to the pharmacy. But he just, oh, man, there's somebody was was asking me the other day about just the codependency, you know, that's in that show between me and Lucille Bluth, who was played, you know, wonderfully by Jessica Walter. And there is a scene in there which so is such a beautiful picture of the codependency where she's on house arrest and she can't smoke. And so she tells me, she goes, Buster, come here, come here. And she says, she makes me inhale the smoke out of her mouth as she smokes and then blow it out on the balcony. And then she takes another drag and then blows it into my mouth. And I've got an exhale on
4:49 Speaker 01 the balcony. And I was like, if just like a baby bird getting a worm out of his mom's mouth. And I was like, if that's not a picture of dysfunction, that I mean, that is crazy.
4:58 Amy Poehler? Well, to me, that's a picture of a loving son taking care of their mother.
5:03 Speaker 01 You know what, Amy, I think this is a side conversation.
5:05 Amy Poehler? That's what a son should do for its mother.
5:07 Speaker 01 Absolutely right. My mother would agree.
5:11 Amy Poehler? You have created such great codependent dysfunctional relationships in the work, work that you do because Lucille and Buster, I mean, is and and then the relationship you and Julia have on Veep is how, when you explain your relationship to Selena in that, like, how do you relation, how do you, how do you sum up the relationship you guys had together on the show, your characters?
5:41 Speaker 01 I worship, she was Jesus to me. I was, I don't even think I, I mean, I, she literally called me a bitchy mime on the show because she didn't really want me to speak. So she had, she gave me no value, but I just had these crazy rose colored glasses and just, I never heard it. I just heard poetry when she was screaming at me. So it was just, and she knew it. She knew it and she abused it.
6:06 Amy Poehler? It looked like you two had an incredible working relationship. Like it just looked like you loved working together.
6:13 Speaker 01 We really did. And she, um, the one thing, I mean, you did the same thing on, on Parks and Rec, but it's, whoever's number one on the call sheet, which means whoever's the star of the show, they typically set the tone of the experience. And sometimes unfortunately, that's, I haven't had this experience, but you know, sometimes it's like, everybody's walking on eggshells and there's a lot of ego and entitlement, which just sucks creative energy out of a space. And it's just not a gift to anybody. And then sometimes you have like you or Julia where you walk in and it's just, it's, it's open. We're all on the same team. There's a kindness. There's a respect. And let me tell you right now, it is a gift for the next seven years that we have on that show of what she gave us.
6:57 Speaker 01 And we just loved her and we just became friends. I mean, she's, also work is not her number one priority. Her family is. She has a life outside of it. And I don't know, just the humanity of Julia was really just awesome, awesome to be around.
7:11 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And you know, you, I think you, cause you're a deep thinking person.
7:16 Speaker 01 Too deep.
7:17 Amy Poehler? Too deep. Some people say too deep.
7:20 Speaker 01 That's the rumor.
7:22 Amy Poehler? Tony Hale, Too Deep.
7:25 Speaker 01 Damn it. That should have been the name of my podcast.
7:27 Amy Poehler? Too Deep. What would be the book? It would be Tony Hale.
7:31 Speaker 01 Or somebody's, or I'm talking to somebody and they start saying something, I go, mm, not deep enough. You gotta go deeper.
7:37 Amy Poehler? Go deeper. Actually, go deeper.
7:40 Speaker 01 Go deeper.
7:41 Amy Poehler? Go deeper.
7:41 Speaker 01 If it's not deep enough, I'm like, bye bye.
7:44 Amy Poehler? Go deeper and then it's go deeper, comma, get back up to the surface. You've gone too deep.
7:50 Speaker 01 Way too deep.
7:51 Amy Poehler? So I ask my Zoom guests to give me a question to ask my guest. And I'm wondering if you have a question, big, small, deep, not deep, for Julia that you think would be appropriate.
8:02 Speaker 01 One thing that I always loved to witness with Julia was her relationship with her mom. She really loves and respects her mom. And I, we never really talked about, I mean, we talked about her mom a lot, but never really talked about much her growing up and growing up what she remembers, kind of how her mom cultivated that foundation.
8:24 Speaker 01 You know, because it's such a cool thing to watch now. And I'm like, oh, wow, like, what did your mom do right? You know?
8:31 Amy Poehler? Yeah, it's a great question. What did your mom do right? That's, that's actually, I think, that's kind of, that's kind of like the theme of your 50s and 60s. Because your 20s, listen, I love to generalize, so I apologize in advance. But if your 20s and 30s are like, who am I not? And I don't want to do this. And like, what didn't go right? Then as you get older, you start to realize what else, what, what did I, what? The people who raised me, what did they, you know, they're doing the best they can. What did they do right?
9:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can, you can really see it with the, the fruit of that with her, with her relationship. And, you know, both you and I are parents and I want, I want that kind of longevity that she has with her mom. Man, what an awesome gift.
9:19 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
9:20 Speaker 01 You're so right about the 50s kind of having eyes to see things, which is such a gift. That's, that's too deep. That's that we went.
9:28 Amy Poehler? We've gone to, yeah, that's the second week of Too Deep, which is.
9:31 Speaker 01 My favorite dessert is key lime pie.
9:35 Amy Poehler? Thank God, let's get back up to the surface. You know what? I mean, I'm not trying to change lives here, Tony. You know what I mean? Like, we're trying to have a laugh. This is a good hang.
9:44 Speaker 01 So sorry.
9:45 Amy Poehler? And look, I took you down. I put the weights on our ankles and I brought us down.
9:49 Speaker 01 I was about to go into like dessert, the sugar does hurt my stomach, but I do, I want to keep it up.
9:55 Amy Poehler? Stay up.
9:56 Speaker 01 I'm not going to say anymore.
9:58 Amy Poehler? So also, maybe if I follow up the, maybe if I ask Julia the question about her mom, I should follow up with what's your favorite kind of pie?
10:04 Speaker 01 I will say, what's her favorite dessert? I want to say, I think it might be a really good chocolate cake, but I don't know if that's true.
10:10 Amy Poehler? Well, I feel like I would trust you knowing everything about Julia after Veep.
10:15 Speaker 01 Yeah. I didn't know anything about politics on that show, but I knew what designer she was wearing. I knew what jewelry she was wearing. I knew who just had an affair that she was talking to. I knew all that stuff.
10:25 Amy Poehler? You kept tampons in your bag just in case.
10:28 Speaker 01 Different colors. Several.
10:30 Amy Poehler? That's a real man.
10:32 Speaker 01 Thank you.
10:33 Amy Poehler? That's a real man.
10:34 Speaker 01 Thank you. Why they haven't put me in a Marvel movie?
10:41 Amy Poehler? The guy that has tampons in his bag.
10:44 Speaker 01 Me, me, me.
10:45 Amy Poehler? I got it. I got it. I got, I have antibacterial wipes too. Well, I feel like you should be in a Marvel movie and also you are in Toy Story. Toy Story 5 is coming out and you're in that.
11:00 Speaker 01 Five's coming up. Forky. Sweet little Forky, man. Forky was the best, is the best.
11:05 Amy Poehler? That's so great.
11:08 Speaker 01 Yeah. Forky has a lot of questions.
11:12 Speaker 01 And.
11:13 Amy Poehler? What's his, what's Forky's game? Like what's, what's going on with Forky?
11:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, we're getting too deep again.
11:18 Amy Poehler? Yeah, here we go. Going down. You're like, Forky is like, why are we here?
11:23 Speaker 01 Forky's like, why we're here, but also the fact that he like came into the world being like, I'm trash. I'm just trash. And Woody's like, no, you're more than trash. You, you're made for a purpose. Come on.
11:34 Amy Poehler? Oh, that Pixar man.
11:36 Speaker 01 That Pixar man just gets you.
11:38 Amy Poehler? They just get, they just get you every time.
11:40 Speaker 01 So I think that'll come out the summer. And this, this, this, this theme of this one is toys against tech, which I think is a really cool.
11:48 Amy Poehler? Ooh.
11:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's, that's.
11:50 Amy Poehler? That's very cool.
11:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:52 Amy Poehler? Well, I, as long as, as long as you guys don't come after my phone.
12:00 Amy Poehler? You can say all you want about tech, but my phone is my best friend, so.
12:04 Speaker 01 What if when the movie comes out, like the SWAT team just goes to your house and goes, "Amy?"
12:09 Amy Poehler? Give me your phone. Whatever the very end tech just wins. It's like, yeah, no more toys.
12:16 Speaker 01 Amy is really a spokesperson for AI when everyone's concerned.
12:19 Amy Poehler? Big time. AI, yai, we need AI.
12:25 Speaker 01 She's the ambassador, AI's ambassador, Pollard.
12:28 Amy Poehler? Tony, I love you. See you later. Bye.
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13:17 Amy Poehler? Julia Louis-Dreyfus is here.
13:18 Speaker 02 Yes.
13:19 Amy Poehler? And we've started our interview by comparing how many photos we have on our phone.
13:23 Speaker 02 I would call it a competition, if you don't mind.
13:25 Amy Poehler? Well, I want to talk about this because what I like about you is you like to win.
13:29 Speaker 02 I do like to win.
13:30 Amy Poehler? I know. I love that about you. Let's, let's reveal the numbers of photos we have on our phone. I'll go first.
13:37 Speaker 02 Go ahead.
13:37 Amy Poehler? Eighty-two thousand.
13:39 Speaker 02 Oh.
13:40 Amy Poehler? Shit.
13:43 Amy Poehler? Is it winning or losing? Is it winning or losing that I have 82,000 photos on my phone?
13:49 Speaker 02 Wait, you mean it's a round number like that?
13:51 Amy Poehler? No, it's 82014. Eighty-two thousand and 14. What do you have?
13:56 Speaker 02 I'm 56,276.
14:00 Amy Poehler? Chop, chop.
14:00 Speaker 02 Screw you, Amy Pollard.
14:03 Amy Poehler? Now, you know what it means is that we have not asked a young person to plug in our phone and to transfer our photos somewhere else. We should be-
14:11 Speaker 02 But I want to have them on my phone.
14:12 Amy Poehler? Me too.
14:13 Speaker 02 There you go.
14:13 Amy Poehler? But we should be downloading them somewhere else, right?
14:16 Speaker 02 Don't they do that automatically in the cloud?
14:20 Amy Poehler? I'm literally the last person to ask.
14:22 Speaker 02 Somebody call Bill Gates.
14:25 Amy Poehler? We can get him on the phone because my now when I get a new iPhone, I hand it to my 17 year old child and I go fix it, do it. I guess I don't even know how to.
14:35 Speaker 02 Do it.
14:36 Amy Poehler? Do it.
14:36 Speaker 02 You don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it either, but this is making me anxious. I need to take these all off of you. I want there are certain pictures I want to have.
14:45 Amy Poehler? Agree, but and let me ask the Gen Z'ers in the room. Do you guys take your photos off your phone at some point? Never.
14:53 Speaker 02 Never. See, we're young and hip all of a sudden.
14:56 Amy Poehler? Okay, we're really sounding old, though, because
15:00 Amy Poehler? because I feel the same way like I sweat. Technology makes me sweat.
15:04 Speaker 02 That's right, mother, it does.
15:07 Amy Poehler? Yes, mother.
15:10 Amy Poehler? Yes, mother.
15:11 Speaker 02 Yes.
15:11 Amy Poehler? Speaking, are you comfy, by the way? You need anything?
15:13 Speaker 02 So comfy.
15:14 Amy Poehler? Okay, great. Oh, let's move. Let's turn off that phone.
15:16 Speaker 02 Hold on.
15:17 Amy Poehler? Julia's phone is dinging. Did you get another picture? Did you get another picture sent to you?
15:22 Speaker 02 I'm up to 56,600.
15:29 Amy Poehler? Okay, by the way, my phone is also on.
15:33 Speaker 02 Oh, hang on, I just want to finish this.
15:37 Speaker 02 Okay, anyway, now it's now it's it's silenced.
15:41 Amy Poehler? Okay.
15:42 Speaker 02 Yes.
15:44 Amy Poehler? I want to start by asking you about podcasting because we're both podcasting now.
15:49 Speaker 02 I know.
15:49 Amy Poehler? I didn't really ask a lot of people for advice before I started this podcast.
15:53 Speaker 02 You should have called me, by the way.
15:54 Amy Poehler? I know. I didn't ask any men because I try not to ask men for advice.
15:59 Speaker 02 Smart.
16:00 Amy Poehler? But what what do you think makes a good interview? You've done great interviews now. You've done many of them. What if what do you think makes a good one?
16:10 Speaker 02 Well, I mean, it's sort of depends on what the the conceit is for what the conversation's going to be. You've done this right because good hang lets you know exactly what it's gonna be. We could be talking about the photos on my phone for the next 45 minutes.
16:27 Amy Poehler? That's right, we probably will.
16:29 Speaker 02 And we might, and that's like, that is dynamite because that's, there's an ease to that.
16:38 Speaker 02 Unfortunately for me.
16:40 Amy Poehler? You've made it hard because you love hard work.
16:43 Speaker 02 Well, I don't know about that, but I have made, I mean, it's definitely rewarding, but it does, I'm talking to older women about the wisdom they have acquired in their life and would they share it with us. So that requires me to do a lot of research. I really need to come to the table, understanding who these people are and how to have an authentic conversation that isn't just, you know, your normal.
17:12 Amy Poehler? Fuck around.
17:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, or plug your this, that and the other.
17:15 Amy Poehler? Yeah, and it's why I love your show, and I've told you that. Like, I love the deep dive you do. I do feel like I get this very, you know, big picture perspective from the women and the lives that they've led.
17:29 Speaker 02 Oh, thanks.
17:30 Amy Poehler? I'm gonna glaze you for a while on this. This is what the kids call a glaze. I'm glazing you.
17:34 Speaker 02 Like a sugar thing?
17:35 Amy Poehler? Yep. It's all about sugar. The glaze is like, I'm gonna tell you how great you are, so buckle up.
17:42 Speaker 02 Okay, there's a word, there's another word that's out now that I can't remember what it is that I was gonna respond with, but it went out of my head!
17:49 Amy Poehler? And if we know it, it's out.
17:51 Speaker 02 There's no way. So glaze is not cool anymore?
17:54 Amy Poehler? Of course it isn't, if I'm saying it.
17:56 Speaker 02 So now I have to say, "I'm dead."
17:58 Amy Poehler? Yeah, exactly, I'm dead.
18:01 Speaker 02 Seriously.
18:02 Amy Poehler? Bet, bet, Julia, bet. But, but you, how much research do you do for a show? Like, do you?
18:10 Speaker 02 A lot, baby cake.
18:11 Amy Poehler? Well, why, why work so hard?
18:13 Speaker 02 I don't know. Get me out of it!
18:16 Amy Poehler? Haven't you gotten the memo to work? Do you see how, how, why are we working so hard?
18:23 Speaker 02 I don't know. Well, you say you're not working hard.
18:25 Amy Poehler? I'm not.
18:25 Speaker 02 But except that you are. You have, yeah, you are, right? Isn't she? Yeah, she is. Everyone's shaking their head. You are. You're pretending like you're not to be cool, but you're working super hard.
18:36 Amy Poehler? But I gotta tell you, you're, but it is, it's an indication, I think, of a bigger thing that we all are used to doing, which is being a very good student, like, just like, working hard.
18:47 Speaker 02 That's true. Yes, that's true.
18:48 Amy Poehler? And has that been something you've found in your life? Like, you want to do well and be a good student, basically?
18:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, I want to do well. Yeah. And also, for me, with this podcast, it was really born out of my own curiosity. In fact, I came to you and talked to you about this podcast once.
19:04 Amy Poehler? I know. And I remember thinking, this sounds hard.
19:06 Speaker 02 I know.
19:08 Amy Poehler? She passed, ladies and gentlemen. Julia was like, what if we did? I was like, that sounds like a lot of research.
19:13 Speaker 02 No, I don't think so. You do it. That's what she said.
19:15 Amy Poehler? Who is coming up that you're, who have you, who have you interviewed that you can plug?
19:20 Speaker 02 Well, I can plug the following. I can plug Jane Curtin.
19:25 Speaker 02 Please, please.
19:26 Amy Poehler? Let's talk about Jane for one second. Let's just sit here and think about Jane for a second.
19:32 Speaker 02 Well, you know what? It was a really, first of all, obviously, an honor to talk to her, but it was a great opportunity to go back and look at her work, and particularly, her work on SNL back in the day, because, of course, she was one of the original cast members, and to understand the effect, speaking for myself, that had on my life.
19:57 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
19:58 Speaker 02 Ginormous.
19:59 Amy Poehler? Yes.
19:59 Speaker 02 Ginormous.
20:00 Amy Poehler? Totally.
20:01 Speaker 02 And, you know, and I watched that first episode, and Janice Ian is singing "I Learned the Truth" at 17, and I was 14 watching the show when that premiered. And these were my people.
20:14 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
20:15 Speaker 02 And so... Same is true of Carol Burnett.
20:19 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
20:20 Speaker 02 You know, you sort of don't, to a certain extent, these people that have these cultural icons who've had proper influence, they get into your bloodstream without you knowing it.
20:33 Amy Poehler? Totally. And it's, and it's, you know, that thing like you have to see it to be it? It's not conscious. It's not like you say, oh, there's a woman on there. But you just see people.
20:42 Speaker 02 That's right.
20:43 Amy Poehler? Filling this role and you just becomes part of your DNA that that could exist in your life, in your world.
20:48 Speaker 02 Right, completely. So.
20:50 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
20:50 Speaker 02 Incredible.
20:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
20:52 Speaker 02 Incredible. By the way, you may know this, but something I learned talking to Jane that was kind of extraordinary, because you and I are familiar with the, the schedule of SNL, which is grueling.
21:04 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
21:06 Speaker 02 Jane was not hired as a writer. And immediately, she made the decision that she was not going to come to work on Monday and Tuesday. I swear to Christ.
21:19 Amy Poehler? So baller.
21:20 Speaker 02 Baller!
21:20 Amy Poehler? She's like, I'm, I'm not here to write. I'm here to perform. Let me know when you write for me.
21:24 Speaker 02 You're paying me as an actor. I'll be here for the table read on Wednesday.
21:28 Amy Poehler? Wow.
21:29 Speaker 02 And the great thing about that was, she's a really good cold reader, according to her. And so she'd nail it. And then she'd be in sketches. But she was not doing that drug-filled, all-nighter life.
21:45 Amy Poehler? Wow.
21:46 Speaker 02 And I just, that she had the sense to, to realize that she was protecting herself. FYI, she was married, too.
21:54 Amy Poehler? Yeah, she always, Jane seemed like the reasonable cast member.
21:59 Speaker 02 Because she was.
22:00 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
22:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:01 Amy Poehler? I, I told this to Martin Short, Marty Short, when he was on the show, we were talking about the SNL 50th, which stirred up so much for everybody.
22:08 Speaker 02 I mean.
22:09 Amy Poehler? It was, it was.
22:10 Speaker 02 That was a lot of, there were a lot of feelings in that studio.
22:14 Amy Poehler? I know. And I, I, I can speak for myself that parts of me really regressed, like back to, you know, some version of what I was like when I was there. And also, the young part of me was like starstruck by the people who, you know, I grew up watching. And I, the, one of my tenderest moments was I was talking to Lorraine Newman, who I don't know that well and I worship.
22:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:37 Amy Poehler? And her and Jane got ready together.
22:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, they're like that.
22:41 Amy Poehler? And they got their hair and makeup together.
22:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:44 Amy Poehler? Before, and it just made me feel so happy because I just wanted them to be friends forever.
22:52 Speaker 02 And they were.
22:52 Amy Poehler? I know, they are. And then they held up Gilda's picture at the end.
22:55 Speaker 02 It was so touching.
22:56 Amy Poehler? I know. Um, you, Julia, even though I consider you, you're, I, I consider you, whether you'll accept this or not, like-
23:05 Speaker 02 I don't accept it.
23:06 Amy Poehler? Fuck, I knew it.
23:07 Speaker 02 I don't. I'm not gonna accept it. I'm just not.
23:10 Amy Poehler? It's good, though. I'm gonna say something good.
23:13 Speaker 02 Okay, go ahead.
23:14 Amy Poehler? Big sister energy for me.
23:16 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
23:17 Amy Poehler? I feel like, in the same way you saw Jane, I was 11, 12, when you were on SNL, and you were a baby. You were like 21 or something. So you were not that much older than me, but you were definitely a new woman on the show. And, you know, I was always paying attention to who, who was new on the show. And you looked really young, which I loved, because I was young and wanted a young person on the show. And I have to say, like, when I was getting, preparing for this interview, there's a million ways that we can talk about all the million things that you've done in your career and your life and who you are as a person. And I got to, lucky to get, to call you a friend. But you are like the LeBron James of TV.
24:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, I, I mean, I-
24:03 Amy Poehler? Thanks.
24:04 Speaker 02 But I, I'm not gonna-
24:05 Amy Poehler? You're not accepting that?
24:06 Speaker 02 I'm not accepting that, man.
24:08 Amy Poehler? Well, here's why I say that. You're not accepting? And I think that's smart, to not accept it, actually. I take you back.
24:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:16 Amy Poehler? Yeah. But no, but the, but you have been-
24:18 Speaker 02 You're pretty good. Just say you're pretty good. It's fine.
24:21 Amy Poehler? You have won three? This is, this is, I'm gonna extend the metaphor. And I'm just, I'm pleased that I came up with this from a sports perspective, because-
24:28 Speaker 02 Because you're such a sporty girl.
24:29 Amy Poehler? I'm such a sporty. This is what this podcast is about.
24:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:33 Amy Poehler? Like, let's go deep into the draft.
24:35 Speaker 02 Into the draft and football.
24:38 Amy Poehler? Let's get in there.
24:39 Speaker 02 The Kelseys.
24:40 Amy Poehler? Let's go into there. Let's get deep in.
24:42 Speaker 02 Okay.
24:42 Amy Poehler? No, but because you're LeBron, because you have won championships for more than one team. You have been in huge legacy shows more than once.
24:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:54 Amy Poehler? It's not, that's very unusual. It's very unusual.
24:56 Speaker 02 That is unusual, and that's a lot of good luck, you know, really. And so, so great, but not really LeBron.
25:07 Amy Poehler? Okay, okay, okay, okay. But, but what is your, we started talking about winning. We were comparing photos.
25:12 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:12 Amy Poehler? What is your relationship to winning? Because I like that you like to win. Like, I like, I like, like, fun, competitive women.
25:22 Speaker 02 Well, first of all, fun is all caps because
25:25 Amy Poehler? Yes.
25:26 Speaker 02 because there's another kind of competitive woman.
25:28 Amy Poehler? Totally.
25:29 Speaker 02 That we don't care for.
25:31 Amy Poehler? That's right. It has to, the fun part has, it has to be like in good fun.
25:35 Speaker 02 Well, here, I'm going to tell you a story about you that I like so much.
25:39 Amy Poehler? Okay.
25:39 Speaker 02 So, you and I have down, a couple of times done bits around award shows. And, and when we're competing against each other.
25:50 Amy Poehler? That's right.
25:50 Speaker 02 So, anyway, what I have found over the years is that it's very good to focus on what to do if you win or you lose. And Amy Poehler is very fun to come up with bits with.
26:05 Amy Poehler? I love a bit.
26:06 Speaker 02 Love a bit.
26:07 Amy Poehler? At an award show, that, because it used to be fun. It used to be like
26:11 Speaker 02 I know.
26:11 Amy Poehler? goofy, and now it's so serious.
26:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:14 Amy Poehler? And
26:14 Speaker 02 And by the way, we took speeches seriously, but from a comic point of view.
26:20 Amy Poehler? If you win for a comedic role, try to be funny when you give a speech.
26:24 Speaker 02 Or how about even if you win for a dramatic role? How about that great idea? Turn it on its head.
26:30 Amy Poehler? Flip it, flip it. Anytime anybody does, they look like a genius.
26:34 Speaker 02 Genius. No, for real, you look like a genius.
26:36 Amy Poehler? It's true.
26:37 Speaker 02 So, we did a Couple of them where we my, I think my favorite one with you, but you tell me was when we we pretended to switch acceptance speeches.
26:46 Amy Poehler? That was my favorite.
26:46 Speaker 02 Oh, it was so good.
26:48 Amy Poehler? We went up there, we gave each other a hug, and then we pretended to like, oopsie, switch speeches, and then you went up and you started thanking people from Parks and Rec, and then we had a moment of like, oh, fuck.
26:58 Speaker 02 Yes.
26:58 Amy Poehler? And the camera cut to me. And those were the years, I have to say, there were so many great women always in our category that came and went. Julia was always there because she always crushed us all every year. But, um, but, um, and like, people were really game to have fun.
27:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, completely.
27:16 Amy Poehler? And I don't remember anything other than the fun times of those bits.
27:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, me too. I really, I was always so grateful that you were, because there were certain people that weren't down to do those bits, and they won't be named. But we did try.
27:30 Amy Poehler? We did, we tried to finagle some.
27:31 Speaker 02 A few bits with other people. And they didn't think, they didn't want to do it.
27:35 Amy Poehler? I know. I think some of them were nervous, like genuinely nervous.
27:39 Speaker 02 Okay, fine, you can say that.
27:44 Amy Poehler? But, okay, I want to start, though, I want to go back a little bit because I feel like, we talked a little bit about this in person, but we, we kind of had similar sketch Chicago beginnings.
27:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:56 Amy Poehler? Like, we, we were in a group, we were the only girl in the group.
28:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:01 Amy Poehler? And our group kind of moved to a new city to like, make a start. And in your case, Practical Theater.
28:08 Speaker 02 Theater.
28:09 Amy Poehler? Practical Theater Company moved to SNL together.
28:12 Speaker 02 Yes.
28:13 Amy Poehler? We were on TV from Northwestern.
28:15 Speaker 02 Yes.
28:15 Amy Poehler? So what year was that?
28:17 Speaker 02 1982.
28:18 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
28:19 Speaker 02 And we were doing a show in Chicago that was a big hit in Chicago, and, uh, and all the people in the show got hired. There were four of us.
28:29 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
28:30 Speaker 02 Three of us were on SNL, and the fourth person, Paul Baras, was hired as a writer.
28:35 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And you all moved to New York and just started together. What was it like to have four or five of your closest friends to start that show with?
28:47 Speaker 02 Well, it was tricky.
28:50 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
28:51 Speaker 02 Not because we didn't get along, but because we were a group of people who were met with a lot of animosity.
28:58 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
28:59 Speaker 02 And by the, by the people whose friends had just been fired.
29:06 Amy Poehler? Right.
29:11 Amy Poehler? And if I can imagine it, because I was myself the same way, there's like a pluckiness to a sketch group. Like a sketch group is like improv and sketches, like standup was cool, and improv and sketch was kind of nerdy.
29:24 Speaker 02 Nerdy for sure.
29:26 Amy Poehler? And, you know, so it was like, hey, guys, we're here. And I'm sure everyone was like, okay, congrats.
29:33 Speaker 02 No, but you're gonna, I don't know if you know, maybe you know this, but when they, they had us at the first, oh, God, I can't even.
29:41 Amy Poehler? Oh, no.
29:42 Speaker 02 It was just so excruciating. There's this room on the 17th floor with fluorescent lighting and, you know, folding tables, and that's where they do the table read. And in that same room, they had us, these new people coming in, do part of our show that we were doing in Chicago for the writers and cast.
30:10 Amy Poehler? Oh, wow.
30:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, in fluorescent lighting.
30:13 Amy Poehler? Oh, wow.
30:14 Speaker 02 And we came out, to your point.
30:22 Speaker 02 And it didn't land. It did not land. Even saying it, my, my armpits are going bananas right now.
30:36 Amy Poehler? I've been there.
30:37 Speaker 02 So, anyway, that's how it began.
30:39 Amy Poehler? It was a terrible, inauspicious start. And you were there for a couple of years.
30:44 Speaker 02 Three.
30:44 Amy Poehler? And you were there during a period of transition. I mean, Lauren was.
30:50 Speaker 02 Not there. Lauren was not there. Dick Ebersol was there.
30:53 Amy Poehler? What a strange window to be there.
30:55 Speaker 02 Oh, baby, it was bad.
30:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
30:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was not great. It was not great. But fabulous learning experience.
31:01 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
31:02 Speaker 02 It was hard and.
31:06 Speaker 02 It was a little crazy making, but I came away from it sort of stronger.
31:13 Amy Poehler? Yeah, and met Larry David, who you then worked with again on Seinfeld. And Seinfeld, still similar kind of thing, like didn't, had an inauspicious start.
31:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was a four-episode order. It was like they were just trying to sort of burn it out.
31:30 Amy Poehler? When I was doing research.
31:33 Speaker 02 Oh, look at you, working hard.
31:36 Amy Poehler? Very hard. You are the person I've worked the hardest for.
31:40 Speaker 02 That's total bullshit, but go ahead.
31:41 Amy Poehler? It is true. Yeah, I've worked the hardest for Michelle Obama.
31:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, smart, yeah, smart.
31:47 Amy Poehler? But, no, but, but like Parks and Rec, Seinfeld was always close to being canceled. People weren't getting it. It was like, we don't know what we have here. Nobody knew what they had.
31:58 Speaker 02 It was until the third year, it started to take off.
32:01 Amy Poehler? Yeah, and was Elaine written as a man at first, that character? No, but wasn't it four men and then they changed it to Elaine?
32:12 Speaker 02 I don't know.
32:13 Amy Poehler? You don't know? No, I don't. Is that a weird way to ask it? You know what I mean.
32:21 Speaker 02 I do, but it makes me laugh. I think I'm tired.
32:25 Amy Poehler? Elaine was, you were playing Elaine as a man, yes? No.
32:28 Speaker 02 Correct.
32:32 Amy Poehler? But wasn't the character, they brought you in because they were like Julia and because of the famous?
32:37 Speaker 02 They did a pilot.
32:38 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
32:39 Speaker 02 And then apparently the network told them, you have to put a girl in the show.
32:43 Amy Poehler? So there is a tape out there somewhere where there is another person in?
32:47 Speaker 02 No, not in, there is not a regular.
32:49 Amy Poehler? A woman in it, in the pilot.
32:51 Speaker 02 Correct.
32:51 Amy Poehler? Wow, yeah, it was a different time.
32:54 Speaker 02 And so they said, you know what, you need a girl.
32:57 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
32:57 Speaker 02 And so, so I came in, I've never watched the pilot of Seinfeld, by the way. And so, why would I? I'm not in it. Why would I bother?
33:05 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you refuse to watch anything you're not in.
33:07 Speaker 02 That's right. That's right.
33:09 Amy Poehler? What was the name of the show you were in, by the way?
33:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, so that's what happened. So they put me in, so I was in the episode two onward.
33:20 Amy Poehler? And I feel like success in the comedy world, in the sitcom world, is often like kind of measured by whether or not people will dress up as you for Halloween.
33:31 Speaker 02 Oh.
33:32 Amy Poehler? Because I, I think Elaine is a popular Halloween costume.
33:35 Speaker 02 It is, it is.
33:37 Amy Poehler? And it's an easy one to get together. Like, it's just, it's a dress and a blazer and a curly haired wig.
33:43 Speaker 02 God, I could, I'd love to go back and fix that look.
33:47 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I, I.
33:48 Speaker 02 You feel me?
33:49 Amy Poehler? There's some early Leslie Knope styles where I'm like, didn't put enough thought into that.
33:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, but we weren't really thinking about that.
33:58 Amy Poehler? No, we were act, we were acting and we were in our character.
34:01 Speaker 02 No, but, no, but I actually remember, because like when Friends came out at some point when we were doing Seinfeld, not in the beginning, it was sort of, I can't remember what the years were, but, and all those girls were so sexy.
34:15 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
34:16 Speaker 02 And I remember thinking like, oh, fuck, I should have been sexy.
34:20 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I think that all the time. Seriously, I, I can't tell you how many times I'm like, oh, I forgot to be sexy.
34:26 Speaker 02 No, totally.
34:26 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
34:27 Speaker 02 Oh, shit.
34:29 Amy Poehler? Oh, my God.
34:31 Speaker 02 This was such a missed opportunity.
34:33 Amy Poehler? And you're reminded of it when you see other people who are like, oh, that's also something I could have tried to be.
34:37 Speaker 02 I, I seriously, like a midriff, anything, anything.
34:42 Amy Poehler? But that's why we love Elaine. We love her because of that, because she feels like us. She feels like someone we would know and love. Like, she feels like our funniest friend. She feels like her, like, you know, I mean, I think, and she's so funny and it's, it just could, it wouldn't work if Elaine was paying attention to that. It never would work.
35:03 Speaker 02 It might have worked.
35:05 Amy Poehler? That's true.
35:06 Speaker 02 She just went through like a really slutty sexy phase.
35:09 Amy Poehler? Not so slutty, just coming in like in tight jeans and like, how they all dressed. Yeah, I know.
35:16 Speaker 02 Anyway, let's not dwell on my regrets.
35:18 Amy Poehler? But also you had two, two boys, did you, were you pregnant?
35:22 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, I had those kids. Oh, right, I forgot.
35:25 Amy Poehler? You were pregnant?
35:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, I had two babies during that time. So the sexy thing, although, you know, look, Demi Moore did it.
35:32 Amy Poehler? I know.
35:33 Speaker 02 But I didn't even know about that. I didn't know about like, you know, going like that with your big tummy and looking hot. I was just, you know, I was just wearing huge, like picnic tablecloths.
35:46 Amy Poehler? Yeah, but that style is back now, you know?
35:49 Speaker 02 Oh, no.
35:50 Amy Poehler? Nineties are back, babe.
35:51 Speaker 02 Listen, if anybody in America is listening to this. Please don't do the 90s again.
35:57 Amy Poehler? I'm gonna disagree with you.
35:59 Speaker 02 Okay, well, you're wrong and I'm right.
36:01 Amy Poehler? No.
36:02 Speaker 02 And so, just leave it at that.
36:03 Amy Poehler? You're being triggered, but I'm telling you, 90s, like that, the floral with like a chunky shoe and a tight and a blazer, fucking jackpot. Like, you and Jen Aniston, when you look at pictures like Rachel and Elaine, everybody's dressing like that now.
36:25 Speaker 02 I don't know what to say.
36:28 Speaker 02 I'm just so fucking sorry.
36:32 Speaker 02 I really, really am.
36:35 Speaker 02 But I will tell you one thing, and I've told this story before, but when I was pregnant with Charlie, with my second son, and I was really pregnant, and I was about five or six months, and I got pretty big, and Jerry comes up to me, and he says, "Hey, we got an idea on the right."
36:53 Amy Poehler? Oh, no.
36:55 Speaker 02 And he said, "How about this idea? How about Elaine just gets fat?"
37:01 Amy Poehler? Incredible. What an idea, Jerry.
37:04 Speaker 02 So, I burst into tears.
37:06 Amy Poehler? Of course.
37:08 Speaker 02 And I will say the following, though. In retrospect, it might have been great.
37:15 Amy Poehler? It might have been funny.
37:15 Speaker 02 It's a funny idea.
37:16 Amy Poehler? Yeah, it's a funny idea.
37:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:17 Amy Poehler? And you would have been hilarious, and it would have been funny.
37:20 Speaker 02 Because, you know, with a big tummy, and then you're like putting a belt on it, and you're pretending you're not pregnant, you're just getting fat.
37:24 Amy Poehler? But when you're not feeling in your own body, it's like...
37:28 Speaker 02 It didn't, it didn't, it didn't work.
37:30 Amy Poehler? I remember on Parks and Rec, I had been pregnant on, twice, on that show, too. And, or, sorry, I had started when I had just given birth for my first kid, and then I got pregnant with Abel, my youngest, a few years later. And I remember my character, Leslie, was gonna become pregnant on the show. And I said, I, I did some version of like bursting into tears where I said, "I cannot be fake pregnant."
37:58 Amy Poehler? I've just been really pregnant on both SNL and Parks and Rec. I've been genuinely pregnant and I you can't make me now where a fake stomach.
38:09 Speaker 02 Oh, so it was always like after you give birth.
38:12 Amy Poehler? After you give birth, they were like, let's strap that belly right back on. And I was like, no, no, no.
38:19 Speaker 02 Well, how about this? How about after I gave birth to Charlie and I'm picking up our, my other son, Henry, from my camp and I'm picking him up and this mom comes up to me, she goes, oh, when are you two?
38:32 Amy Poehler? Uh-uh.
38:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:33 Amy Poehler? No.
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41:09 Amy Poehler? You have the greatest kids.
41:10 Speaker 02 Oh, thank you. Thank you.
41:12 Amy Poehler? And they're such talented boys and really nice men. They're men.
41:15 Speaker 02 They're men. They're still my boys.
41:17 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And, and I love your relationship with Brad, who is a wonderful person.
41:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:22 Amy Poehler? And you guys are like a really beautiful example of a loving, funny, supportive marriage with two very talented people and you're.
41:31 Speaker 02 FYI, we're separated and getting divorced.
41:34 Amy Poehler? And you're gonna announce it here.
41:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, I just thought this is the time. I mean, you brought it up. I might as well.
41:40 Amy Poehler? Well, you know what? Good.
41:41 Speaker 02 Easy come, easy go.
41:43 Amy Poehler? And I worked with your son Charlie on Moxie, a film that I made. He was a total doll.
41:48 Speaker 02 You know what? I have to tell you something about that. That was the first professional job he ever had was you gave him that job in Moxie. And I am so grateful to you for that, not because you gave him the job, of course, yes. But because I'm so grateful because you're a good person and he didn't have an experience with.
42:12 Speaker 02 A jerk, of which there are so many.
42:14 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
42:15 Speaker 02 And it was very informative to him. So I just want you to know that, for real. And this is totally me telling you, thank you. And even, no, I'm actually, I'm tearing up. But it really, I really mean it.
42:29 Amy Poehler? I love him. I love him. He's such a nice kid and talented. Okay, so we talk about Seinfeld, Adventures of Old Christine, incredible show. Carrie Lizer.
42:40 Speaker 02 Love. She's your kind of person.
42:42 Amy Poehler? She is an incredible showrunner. You've worked with great showrunners.
42:46 Speaker 02 Yes, I have worked with great showrunners.
42:48 Amy Poehler? Armando Iannucci, who is creator of Veep. How did, did that part, was that part written for you?
42:58 Speaker 02 Um.
42:59 Amy Poehler? Ish?
42:59 Speaker 02 Ish, yes, I would say. I mean, initially, no. I just heard about the concept that, you know, unhappy vice president.
43:08 Speaker 02 And then, and I was like, ding ding ding ding ding. And then I met with him and then he started to write it after that.
43:17 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
43:17 Speaker 02 Yeah. Because I loved the idea. And I loved his work.
43:20 Amy Poehler? I mean, Julia.
43:22 Speaker 02 Yes.
43:22 Amy Poehler? That show.
43:24 Speaker 02 That show was so much fun to do. I have to say, I still miss it.
43:27 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
43:28 Speaker 02 Do you miss doing parks?
43:29 Amy Poehler? I miss the people.
43:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:31 Amy Poehler? I miss the people a lot. I mean, I have a lot of them on here because I miss them so much. Like, I miss, I miss, it felt like, and it feels that way with Veep too, like, the chemistry of the people, the funniness of, like, they're laughing all day.
43:44 Speaker 02 All day.
43:45 Amy Poehler? So we do a thing on the podcast where we have people come on before our guest and talk well behind our guest's back.
43:55 Speaker 02 Talk well?
43:56 Amy Poehler? Yes, you've not listened to this podcast, have you?
43:57 Speaker 02 Let me explain something to you. You, you called me to do something for Ina Garten, but you didn't say, "talk well."
44:04 Amy Poehler? Yes, I did.
44:05 Speaker 02 No, you didn't.
44:06 Amy Poehler? I did too.
44:07 Speaker 02 No, you said, "come up with some questions for her." That's not talking well.
44:12 Amy Poehler? I think when I introduced you, I said that we're gonna talk well behind Ina's back. Did I not?
44:16 Speaker 02 No, you didn't. I'm being gaslit by this enterprise.
44:20 Amy Poehler? Whatever.
44:20 Speaker 02 I'm never, I am never talking to you again.
44:23 Amy Poehler? And by the way, Ina, who was on our podcast, you, you came on to do a, an incredible little, you know, segment in the front. And Ina and you are buddies.
44:36 Speaker 02 Yes.
44:36 Amy Poehler? And when, when I was talking to her, she was saying you guys were ready to go on a trip together.
44:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, we did.
44:41 Amy Poehler? Please tell me about it. Tell me what you ate. Tell me, just tell me what you ate.
44:47 Speaker 02 We went to, she very generously took me and Brad to a restaurant in Paris called Caviar Caspia.
44:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
44:57 Speaker 02 And frankly, I don't even like caviar.
45:00 Amy Poehler? What?
45:01 Speaker 02 Yeah. And it was delicious.
45:05 Amy Poehler? Was everything, did everything have caviar in it?
45:08 Speaker 02 Kinda.
45:09 Amy Poehler? Amazing.
45:10 Speaker 02 It was like caviar and potato and champagne.
45:14 Amy Poehler? Delicious.
45:15 Speaker 02 And it was very, just exotic. And it was in Paris.
45:19 Amy Poehler? Oh, so great.
45:20 Speaker 02 So, you know, what else do you need to know?
45:21 Amy Poehler? She was so nice. She brought champagne and strawberry. She was the best.
45:25 Speaker 02 God, was I supposed to bring something?
45:29 Amy Poehler? It's just weird that you didn't, I guess. Like, I mean, if, it is weird that you didn't.
45:36 Speaker 02 If my assistant Will is listening to this right now in the green room, could you just go out and get some?
45:41 Amy Poehler? Sam, could you put some more photos on my phone, please? While Julia is getting a present for me.
45:44 Speaker 02 Could you put more photos on my phone right now? And also, can you go and get, like, some chocolates and quickly get some chips?
45:52 Amy Poehler? Could you rip up the thank you note I was about to send to Julia?
45:55 Speaker 02 Also, could you please, um, send flowers to myself? Because I'm clearly not gonna be getting anything from Amy Poehler.
46:03 Amy Poehler? Also, I distinctly said that polka dots were only for me.
46:08 Speaker 02 The other thing is, is that how could it have been that I came out here wearing this blouse and you did not see what she had on? Okay, anyway.
46:17 Amy Poehler? So, I spoke to someone who knows you really well, and that is Tony Hale.
46:22 Speaker 02 Oh, my Tony.
46:24 Amy Poehler? I know. Tell me about, tell me how much you love Tony.
46:27 Speaker 02 I love Tony.
46:30 Amy Poehler? He's the best.
46:31 Speaker 02 He is the greatest guy.
46:33 Amy Poehler? What do you love about him? What's so great about Tony?
46:36 Speaker 02 He is deeply funny.
46:38 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
46:40 Speaker 02 Like deeply funny. He is profoundly generous. He is incredibly neurotic.
46:51 Amy Poehler? Perfect.
46:52 Speaker 02 He worries about everyone.
46:54 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
46:55 Speaker 02 So if there's a group of people and somebody is off or not fitting in or having a hard time, he can only focus on that.
47:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
47:07 Speaker 02 And which speaks to his kindness.
47:09 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
47:10 Speaker 02 And I just would do anything to work with him again. I want to find a way to work with him again.
47:15 Amy Poehler? You guys were so great together on that show. And everyone on Veep was great. But Selena and Gary's relationship was very special.
47:25 Speaker 02 Very special.
47:26 Amy Poehler? How would you sum it up when you explain it?
47:32 Speaker 02 Have you ever seen a like, like a trellis with a plant growing throughout it? That's their relationship.
47:46 Amy Poehler? Codependency to the max.
47:48 Speaker 02 Max.
47:49 Amy Poehler? Enmeshment times a thousand.
47:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, that plant is not going to live without the trellis. And FYI, the trellis doesn't give a shit about the plant.
47:59 Amy Poehler? Yeah, like the trellis actually is like, could somebody cut this plant off me?
48:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:04 Amy Poehler? Like this plant might take me down.
48:05 Speaker 02 But also it makes me look better, so it can stay.
48:08 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I mean, the way.
48:09 Speaker 02 That's a pretty good metaphor.
48:10 Amy Poehler? It's really good because you're, I mean, Selena was like ultimate narcissist.
48:16 Speaker 02 Yes.
48:17 Amy Poehler? And.
48:18 Speaker 02 Which, by the way, couldn't be more fun to play.
48:22 Amy Poehler? Oh, I bet. What was fun to play? Why was that fun? What did it allow? What did it allow you to play around with and do that you don't get to do in your real life, playing her?
48:34 Speaker 02 Focus only on myself.
48:36 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
48:36 Speaker 02 And.
48:37 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
48:37 Speaker 02 And. And appalled that if anyone is not focused on me.
48:44 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
48:45 Speaker 02 And take no responsibility for anything.
48:48 Amy Poehler? Yes, never apologize.
48:49 Speaker 02 Never apologize. It's always your fault, your fault, and your fault.
48:54 Amy Poehler? Ooh, she just never, ever looked inward.
48:57 Speaker 02 Right, ever.
48:58 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
48:58 Speaker 02 She didn't know what that meant.
49:00 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
49:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, so that was fun.
49:01 Amy Poehler? Well, Tony had a great, sweet, of course, loving question. He loves you and adores you. And he, his question was like very tender, just like Tony. But he was saying like what he loved about you as a parent. He watched you be the kind of parent that you are, and it really inspired him as a parent. And also, he was very moved and is very moved by your relationship with your mom. And his question was, what do you think your mom did right? What did she give you? What are you like happy that you got from your mom?
49:35 Speaker 02 Hmm.
49:35 Amy Poehler? It's such a sweet, tender, such a tender question.
49:38 Speaker 02 I know. I mean, there are obviously many things that I got from my mother, including this wide jaw of mine.
49:46 Amy Poehler? It's gorgeous.
49:48 Speaker 02 But I would say that my mother is a very intellectually curious person. And I think some of that has rubbed off on me. And, and also, my mother has a very good sense of humor.
50:08 Amy Poehler? When you were growing up, was she watching stuff that influenced you? I know a lot of my comedy came from my mom, like what my mom was watching.
50:15 Speaker 02 What did your mom watch?
50:16 Amy Poehler? Well, Carol Burnett, Monty Python, SNL. Like, my parents had that on in the house. Did your mom watch that kind of stuff growing up?
50:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, yes. And, I mean, I vivid, there was a show on when I was little, like really little, like maybe two. And it was a show called Soupy Sales.
50:35 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah.
50:36 Speaker 02 And also Captain Kangaroo.
50:38 Amy Poehler? Yes.
50:39 Speaker 02 And we used to watch that and howl. There was something, and I think it was on Soupy Sales or maybe it was Captain Kangaroo, where ping pong balls would fall down. And, you know, when you're two, that's like drop dead funny.
50:54 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
50:54 Speaker 02 No, you know what I mean? It's kind of the Jack in the Box kind of a joke.
50:58 Amy Poehler? Yes.
50:59 Speaker 02 And we would start, my memory is that she was laughing as hard as I was. My guess is that maybe she was laughing because I was laughing.
51:09 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
51:10 Speaker 02 But, but I remember sort of feeling like I was partnered with her in enjoying this extraordinarily funny ping pong bit.
51:19 Amy Poehler? Yeah, laughing does do that with our families. Like it, I mean.
51:22 Speaker 02 It's a, yeah, it's a binder.
51:23 Amy Poehler? Binder. And also you learn a lot about somebody by what they laugh at.
51:27 Speaker 02 Totally.
51:28 Amy Poehler? Like, I know, I learned, you know, I got, I don't, I don't think it was the first time we met, but when you came back to host SNL was a big deal for all of us who were on the cast at the time that you were there, very excited. And we got to like spend some time together. And I remember being so pleased that we would laugh at the same thing. Like, it felt like, oh, I just felt excited that we were enjoying the same things in the same way.
51:56 Speaker 02 Totally. Yeah, there was real immediate simpatico. I remember that very well because when we were, we were in the, we were, must have been rehearsal day or something and we were in 8H and I was at the page station thing and you came up to me and you just went like this, you went, "Okay, run." And so I just ran and we just went running down the hall. It was just some dumb bit, but I thought, oh, I like this girl so much. We were just, you know, fucking around.
52:27 Amy Poehler? Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think when you came back to host that year, you had a really good time.
52:33 Speaker 02 I had a ball. I had a ball.
52:36 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
52:36 Speaker 02 And by the way, if you can believe this, speaking of male female things, I was the first female cast member to ever come back and host.
52:45 Amy Poehler? Wow.
52:46 Speaker 02 Oopsie Daisy.
52:48 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And that was 2006 or something?
52:50 Speaker 02 Correct. Yeah.
52:52 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And you were coming into a cast that was like, there was a lot of really strong, talented women performing together and.
52:59 Speaker 02 It was a good vibe, at least. That's what I was picking up on. It was the first time I really had fun doing the show.
53:04 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
53:05 Speaker 02 I mean, what was so nice about hosting back then with you guys was to feel.
53:12 Speaker 02 The female power that was evident. And long overdue. And so that is a good feeling.
53:21 Amy Poehler? Yeah. Yeah.
53:23 Speaker 02 And that's why I like talking to these older women, too. Anyway, I think it's pretty critical to have these conversations and to hear from these
53:34 Speaker 02 really interesting people.
53:35 Amy Poehler? Well, I mean, Julia, you do that to me. You inspire me every time I see you engaging. Like, I feel very inspired by you. Like, I feel very, like, you turn on a switch for me often where I see you doing something and I'm like, right, right. That's the kind of engagement I'm supposed to be doing or like being reminded that I'm doing. Like, you definitely do that for me. And you do that for me professionally, too. I see the moves that you make professionally. I'm like, damn, so smart, so interesting. Like, you are, I'm always looking to you.
54:07 Speaker 02 Oh, wow. That's so nice of you to say that. That really makes me feel good.
54:12 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I really feel that way.
54:13 Speaker 02 I really appreciate that. Thanks, Amy.
54:15 Amy Poehler? You're welcome.
54:16 Speaker 02 What a good hang this has been.
54:18 Amy Poehler? This is, okay. And then my last, I have two questions, one that's fun and one that's a little bit more serious. But like, what I take away from your show and what I take away from knowing you is like the incredible, total joy and privilege it is to just get older. Like, there's so many people that aren't here that want to be here. Like, how great to be alive, basically.
54:42 Speaker 02 So great.
54:43 Amy Poehler? And as we get older, it feels like adulting, this term adulting. Like, it just gets hard because you know the hard parts of life are the juiciest parts, like, the challenge parts that we have to get through are the, that's the meat on the bone. It's just.
55:02 Speaker 02 Getting through can be rough.
55:03 Amy Poehler? I know. And you've had a tough, you've had to get through illness.
55:07 Speaker 02 Yes.
55:08 Amy Poehler? Loss of your house.
55:09 Speaker 02 Yes.
55:10 Amy Poehler? Loss of people in your life. Like, it's not easy and we all go through this. Like, everybody listening knows what this feels like. They have versions of it in their life.
55:18 Speaker 02 Grief.
55:19 Amy Poehler? Grief. What is the thing that, on the other side of certain types of grief, you've, like, learned about yourself? What does it mean to you? Because is it just as simple as, like, I'm happy I'm alive?
55:32 Speaker 02 No.
55:33 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I know. Like, you shared with the world when you were treating your cancer, your breast cancer, and it was very helpful for a lot of people. Isn't something you needed to share? You did?
55:45 Speaker 02 Well, I was kind of backed into a corner on that one because we had to shut our showdown. It's funny how that worked out because normally I would not have done that.
55:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
55:56 Speaker 02 I'm very private.
55:57 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
55:59 Speaker 02 But because we had to shut the showdown, V at the time, for a year, I had to say, you know, 250 people weren't going to be working or whatever it is.
56:08 Amy Poehler? Right.
56:11 Speaker 02 So I had to make a public thing about it. But the good thing about doing that was that I did have this incredible experience of people reaching out to me, asking me for, you know, asking me about my experience going through the breast cancer, you know, for advice. And I was able to help, and there was something unbelievably comforting about being able to do that on the other side of this trauma.
56:48 Amy Poehler? Right.
56:50 Speaker 02 There is a lot to be said in self-soothing by soothing others.
56:54 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
56:55 Speaker 02 You know, for real. I mean, I don't mean to sound all Pollyanna-ish. I actually think it's true.
57:02 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I agree, that like, to be of service to others is the way to get yourself up out of the basement.
57:09 Speaker 02 The doldrums.
57:10 Amy Poehler? Yeah, it's so true.
57:11 Speaker 02 Yeah.
57:11 Amy Poehler? And we need, it's like, we're in such short supply of it right now. And the other way that I think that, and I think you're the same, that takes me up from the basement, the elevator, is laughing.
57:21 Speaker 02 Well. A hundred percent. Without it, you're dead.
57:27 Amy Poehler? It's so true. Like, you have to laugh.
57:30 Speaker 02 You have to laugh. When it's the worst, you have to laugh.
57:33 Amy Poehler? And those are my favorite laughs. When it's very, when everyone is, you know, it's like church giggles, basically.
57:40 Speaker 02 The best.
57:41 Amy Poehler? Or like funeral laughs, where like you have someone who loves you enough to know they're gonna take a swing here to get you up out. And you have so many funny friends.
57:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
57:51 Amy Poehler? You must have had so many moments where things were dark for you and someone kinda scoops you up with a laugh.
57:59 Speaker 02 Oh, totally. Well, when I was, actually, when I was going through chemo and I had a lot of girlfriends come and shove into this tiny little room, you know? I mean, like, the size of this table. And everybody was there and I was high as a kite. And, and, and I was doing this thing called a cold cap.
58:24 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah.
58:24 Speaker 02 So it's a thing that they do, that you can do if you're getting chemo, if you choose. And it's this ice cold thing you put on your head and it's supposed to help you not lose your hair. So I did that. So I had this huge, like, weirdly shaped turban on my head and, you know, I'm kinda like that. And everybody's around me making fun. And it was a dream.
58:47 Amy Poehler? Dream.
58:48 Speaker 02 Dream.
58:49 Amy Poehler? That is a dream.
58:50 Speaker 02 And at one point, I remember I sent a bunch of my girlfriends out, because I lost so much weight, none of my clothes fit. And so I was like, I need, you know, hi, I need new jeans. And so I sent everybody out. I don't know where they went. And then it's on FaceTime and I'm telling them which ones to get. It was fun. It was hilarious.
59:11 Amy Poehler? So fun.
59:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, it really was.
59:12 Amy Poehler? And what are you, and I ask all my guests this, what are you watching, listening, reading? What are you, what are you laughing at right now?
59:20 Speaker 02 Well, there is nothing I love more than those videos of either... Dogs, like that one dog who keeps attacking an apple slice?
59:31 Amy Poehler? Don't know it. Hold on.
59:33 Speaker 02 It's, it is-
59:34 Amy Poehler? Attacking an apple slice?
59:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, he's just going bananas on top of a bed. How do we find that?
59:40 Amy Poehler? You know how we find it? We type in "dog attacking apple slice."
59:46 Speaker 02 I think it's, his name is, it starts with-
59:48 Amy Poehler? Our phones are off, remember. We're gonna have to turn them back on.
59:50 Speaker 02 No, mine isn't off.
59:51 Amy Poehler? You never turned your phone off?
59:53 Speaker 02 Nope.
59:54 Amy Poehler? Puppy shares apple slice? No, that seems too nice.
59:58 Speaker 02 Oh, here we go. Spud on Instagram.
1:00:01 Amy Poehler? Okay.
1:00:05 Amy Poehler? This dog is just attacking this piece of celery.
1:00:09 Speaker 02 This one is celery.
1:00:10 Amy Poehler? This dog is a maniac.
1:00:14 Amy Poehler? The dog is growling. It is the size of a rat.
1:00:18 Speaker 02 It looks...
1:00:21 Amy Poehler? And it is furious at this piece of food. And is baring its teeth. I mean, it's scary.
1:00:27 Speaker 02 It's scary.
1:00:29 Amy Poehler? But it's, it's not gonna hurt anybody.
1:00:33 Speaker 02 Oh, this is strawberry.
1:00:34 Amy Poehler? Oh, this is a strawberry.
1:00:35 Speaker 02 Oh, no, it's war. It's war. Anyway, that makes me very happy.
1:00:44 Amy Poehler? But do you, do you watch a lot of videos, YouTube videos, and like, and...
1:00:47 Speaker 02 I, I think what I, I'm...
1:00:51 Speaker 02 I love Survivor.
1:00:52 Amy Poehler? But let me just ask you something about Survivor.
1:00:54 Speaker 02 I also like Amazing Race.
1:00:55 Amy Poehler? Okay, Survivor and Amazing Race, those kinds of shows. Do you think you could do well on them?
1:01:01 Speaker 02 No.
1:01:02 Amy Poehler? No? Really? Is there a, when you watch it, is there a part of you that you think, like, I, this is what I would do? But you don't-
1:01:10 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:10 Amy Poehler? Okay.
1:01:11 Speaker 02 What I would do is pretend to break my leg and get air-vacked out.
1:01:18 Amy Poehler? Have you watched Alone?
1:01:20 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:21 Amy Poehler? Incredible.
1:01:23 Speaker 02 Incredible.
1:01:23 Amy Poehler? Okay, let's talk about Alone. So for people that don't know, I think it's on National Geographic Channel, maybe History Channel, and now it's on Netflix.
1:01:31 Speaker 02 I mean.
1:01:31 Amy Poehler? There's a 45,000 seasons of it.
1:01:33 Speaker 02 Forty-five thousand, and I think we watched every episode during COVID.
1:01:37 Amy Poehler? Yeah, fantastic COVID show. And for those who don't know, the premise is 10 or 11 people are dropped somewhere. It always feels like Canada, but somewhere.
1:01:45 Speaker 02 Wicked, wicked.
1:01:47 Amy Poehler? And they have to survive the elements and survive being alone. And the psychology of how people figure out how to not only find food and shelter and outlast their competitors, but the psychology of what happens when people are alone is fascinating.
1:02:03 Speaker 02 I'm for sure would go crazy.
1:02:07 Amy Poehler? But don't you think you would do?
1:02:09 Speaker 02 On Alone? Are you out of your mind?
1:02:11 Amy Poehler? Better than, really, you don't think you would do better than some of the other? Yeah, no, I wouldn't be able to get any food. I wouldn't be able to kill any of the animals.
1:02:19 Speaker 02 So that would be one problem. And then the other problem would be, I don't think you'd be able to sleep. Because, you know, they got bears up there, man.
1:02:25 Amy Poehler? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:26 Speaker 02 It's, I mean, I don't know what headspace you're in right now, but there's no way you're making it on Alone. No way.
1:02:34 Amy Poehler? I'm not saying I'm making it, I'm just saying.
1:02:35 Speaker 02 I'm not saying, I'm saying you're not making it one night.
1:02:39 Amy Poehler? Not even one night?
1:02:40 Speaker 02 You're gonna be too cold. You have to make a shelter.
1:02:44 Amy Poehler? My pride would do one night. I would.
1:02:46 Speaker 02 Okay, one night. Not really. But I love Alone.
1:02:53 Amy Poehler? I love it. Why do you love it?
1:02:56 Speaker 02 Because I think it's an extraordinary challenge. I think it's a legit, you know, and it's.
1:03:01 Amy Poehler? Agree.
1:03:02 Speaker 02 And as a, you know, Survivor, it's got all of these things and these games and so on, which is gobs of fun, but it's all fabricated.
1:03:08 Amy Poehler? Yes.
1:03:08 Speaker 02 In this case, you've really gotta stay alive. And you don't know when other people have peeled off. They don't, they don't die, but they, they tap out.
1:03:17 Amy Poehler? Yes.
1:03:18 Speaker 02 How much do they win?
1:03:19 Amy Poehler? A million dollars.
1:03:21 Speaker 02 A million dollars.
1:03:22 Amy Poehler? And what I love about the psychology of that show is the way, because I relate, is the way people start to give up before giving up.
1:03:30 Speaker 02 Oh, wait, talk about that.
1:03:33 Amy Poehler? Because they start to talk. And I just, I, I love it because I recognize it, right? Which is when you start to talk yourself out of something, but you're not talking yourself out of it yet, but you're just playing around with the idea. Because it's such a mental game. You have to just take the highs and lows and like.
1:03:49 Speaker 02 Right.
1:03:50 Amy Poehler? But when people are like, yeah, it's just, you know, my family. Yeah, I'm sure my family's missing me a lot.
1:03:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
1:03:57 Amy Poehler? It's always men, you know, being like, my wife is probably struggling. And you're like, oh, here he goes. Like, just a little day or two before, just thinking about.
1:04:06 Speaker 02 That's right.
1:04:07 Amy Poehler? I mean, I, I do want the money, but will my kid ever be, ever have their third birthday again? You know, and you're like, here he goes. He's getting ready. Couple of days from now, he's going to tap out. Like, that kind of bubbly stuff, I love. Human behavior, I just like.
1:04:24 Speaker 02 It's so good.
1:04:25 Amy Poehler? I want to watch Alone with you. And I want to watch, um, jury, the new jury duty with you. And.
1:04:30 Speaker 02 Oh, wait a minute, that would be fun.
1:04:32 Amy Poehler? That would be fun. I would like to watch TV with you.
1:04:35 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:04:39 Speaker 02 Amy.
1:04:42 Amy Poehler? Is that weird? I want to come over and I feel like get into some kind of comfy situation with you and Brad. Get under some kind of, not that way, just.
1:04:51 Speaker 02 No, I understand. You get blankets.
1:04:53 Amy Poehler? And get blankets. I feel like there'd be a good snack, like a chip, like a delicious salty chip.
1:04:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, but we need some yummy, um, we need some desserts happening.
1:05:03 Amy Poehler? Uh, are you sweet over savory?
1:05:05 Speaker 02 I like it all.
1:05:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
1:05:07 Speaker 02 But I love sweets.
1:05:08 Amy Poehler? Okay, I'm more savory. So we can have sweet and a chip, and some kind of chip.
1:05:13 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:05:14 Amy Poehler? And we watch one of these shows and we, I'm picturing it now.
1:05:19 Speaker 02 Have you ever had dill pickle chips?
1:05:22 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
1:05:23 Speaker 02 Doesn't do it for you?
1:05:24 Amy Poehler? Doesn't do it for me, but I love the idea of them.
1:05:26 Speaker 02 Oh, God, it's making my mouth water just talking about it.
1:05:28 Amy Poehler? Let's get some of those.
1:05:30 Speaker 02 We'll get some of those, but you don't like them, so we'll find something else. Do you like, uh, uh, salt and vinegar?
1:05:34 Amy Poehler? I enjoy a salt and vinegar.
1:05:35 Speaker 02 Me too.
1:05:35 Amy Poehler? Yeah, love that.
1:05:36 Speaker 02 Love it.
1:05:37 Amy Poehler? And also, I'm a basic Doritos bitch.
1:05:41 Speaker 02 Really?
1:05:41 Amy Poehler? I know. Not a sponsor.
1:05:44 Speaker 02 Is now.
1:05:47 Speaker 02 Not after what you, the face you just made.
1:05:55 Amy Poehler? That's the slogan. I'm a Doritos, basic Doritos bitch.
1:05:59 Speaker 02 Really?
1:06:02 Amy Poehler? That's it? That's the conversation?
1:06:07 Amy Poehler? I love you, Julia.
1:06:08 Speaker 02 I love you, too.
1:06:08 Amy Poehler? Thank you for doing this.
1:06:09 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me.
1:06:10 Amy Poehler? This has been so fun to hang out.
1:06:12 Speaker 02 I knew it would be fun. I didn't know it would be this much fun.
1:06:15 Amy Poehler? I can't wait till I reach 70 so I can come on your show.
1:06:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:19 Amy Poehler? Thank you so much, Julia. That was so fun. It's always so fun to get to be around you and laugh with you and do bits. And for this polar plunge, I just want to mention one of the guests on Julia's podcast, Wiser Than Me, who I just love, and that is the author Anne Lamott. Anne, if you're listening, I love you. And if you don't know Anne Lamott's work, she is a very prolific and successful author who's written books like Operating Instructions and Bird by Bird and Tender Mercies, many works of fiction. Her latest book, Somehow: Thoughts on Love, is out.
1:06:59 Amy Poehler? And she's just a really candid, funny, deeply funny, tender, big thinker. And I don't know, I just love her and hope I get to have her on this pod someday. Check out her podcast with Julia. Check out Julia's podcast. Listen to podcasts. Podcasts are great. We love podcasts. Okay, thanks. Bye.
1:07:24 Amy Poehler? You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaia McMullin, and Aleia Zaneras. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.
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