Pod Insights Good Hang with Amy Poehler Selena Gomez About this episode Amy hangs with actress, singer, and entrepreneur Selena Gomez to talk about the fake orange peels in her home, working with legends Steve Martin and Martin Short on 'Only Murders in the Building,' and the adults who ride their suitcases through airports.
Host: Amy Poehler
Guests: Selena Gomez and Martin Short
Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman
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For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Devon Baroldi and Nick Kosut; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat Spillane
Original Music: Amy Miles
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2:03 Amy Poehler? Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are very excited about our guest today. It is Selena Gomez. The multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer, who is just a total delight. And we're gonna talk about a lot of fun things today. We're gonna talk about her incredible business and her success as the founder of Rare Beauty. We're gonna talk about Only Murders in the Building and working with legends and being one herself. We're gonna talk about Tejano music, her favorite kind, and music that she listened to growing up. And we're gonna get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode.
2:45 Amy Poehler? But, you know, we always have guests tell us about our guests. We always talk well behind our guests' back and have someone special to talk about them. And today, we have, well, one of my comedy legends, a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know has totaled my car three times. Martin Short. Marty?
3:20 Speaker 04 Hi, baby.
3:22 Amy Poehler? Thank you for coming back. I was just thinking-
3:24 Speaker 04 Hey, by the way, I loved our show.
3:26 Amy Poehler? Me, too. It was such a hit.
3:28 Speaker 04 It was so... Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker.
3:35 Amy Poehler? Where are you?
3:36 Speaker 04 I'm in Toronto.
3:37 Amy Poehler? Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you, I went to Canada a lot in the summers and it was always cold, but is it, is it warm there right now?
3:45 Speaker 04 Do you know, it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun, as you-
3:49 Amy Poehler? Yeah, yeah.
3:50 Speaker 04 And it got very hot and very humid. No, it late got to be 81. I know you don't believe it.
3:58 Amy Poehler? That's good.
3:59 Speaker 04 And I know you'd still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians.
4:04 Amy Poehler? Have you cold plunged since we talked?
4:06 Speaker 04 No, ma'am.
4:06 Amy Poehler? Oh, well, I can tell.
4:10 Speaker 04 You can tell by the skin?
4:11 Amy Poehler? I can, I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery.
4:14 Speaker 04 You know what? By the way, fuck off, okay?
4:19 Amy Poehler? We're gonna talk to Selena today, who I don't think I've ever really met. And
4:23 Speaker 04 Really, she's absolutely lovely.
4:25 Amy Poehler? I know, and I, I wanna tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back.
4:31 Speaker 04 Who are you talking to?
4:33 Amy Poehler? You.
4:34 Speaker 04 Like, you're talking to?
4:35 Amy Poehler? I'm talking-
4:35 Speaker 04 Oh, just me?
4:36 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you're the person I'm talking to. Do you think this was just me calling you?
4:41 Speaker 04 You could let me know when we're recording, because if we're recording, I'll answer.
4:44 Amy Poehler? We're recording right now.
4:46 Speaker 04 What? Okay.
4:50 Amy Poehler? I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena, because I remember when we were together, I said, "Oh, what's it like working with her?" And you were like, "She's great." Like, you said, "She's just a doll." And I remember thinking, "Oh, it's so good to hear," because that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work.
5:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had never met her the first day we shot, and we had zoomed, and it was because of COVID, you know? You, you, you just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, "What is Selena Gomez gonna be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people?
5:40 Speaker 04 Kinda rude? Like, I knew if she was late, forty minutes late every day, Steve would say, "Very good one season. I don't care how big a success, I'm not doing it."
5:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
5:52 Speaker 04 And so, right away, I met her in the makeup room, and she smiled at me, and I went, "Ah, ah, we're fine."
5:59 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
5:59 Speaker 04 And she's just a doll. We've really, really, uh, become very, very close. I just, um, adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just one of the great, cool guys, and funny, and loose. And she adores him. And, um, I don't know, I'm just thrilled for her happiness, and I'm thrilled to get to work with her.
6:27 Amy Poehler? Yeah, well, you know, I bet, I, I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, like what she's learned from working with you and Steve. But what have you learned from working with her?
6:37 Speaker 04 I knew everything.
6:38 Amy Poehler? Yeah, it looks like nothing. Looks like you've stopped learning.
6:41 Speaker 04 I learned you can like order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed.
6:48 Amy Poehler? That's funny.
6:52 Amy Poehler? Caviar egg. You never gave yourself permission to do that before.
6:55 Speaker 04 Didn't. I didn't. And I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar. But secondly, it was, I'm me. And you know, that's a new book.
7:05 Amy Poehler? I'm me, Conan. I deserve this.
7:08 Speaker 04 The actual working title is I Is Me. I did a special once called I, Martin Short, Goes Hollywood.
7:17 Speaker 04 A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world. Nothing funny.
7:22 Amy Poehler? So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena? Like on set and stuff? Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not one.
7:32 Speaker 04 Yeah, she has a security person. We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street, which is not often, but certainly happens a lot. That doesn't make any sense. Not often, but happens a lot. Anyway, you know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine guys there, kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes, and then they walk away. And you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi, and they're there all day. And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or mean, you know, that would therefore, they could, you know, make more money from it.
8:17 Speaker 04 So she's just been, that's been her life. I don't, and she does have security on the streets. We all do. But, but she is so lovely with them, and they've been in her life for so long. The only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to, like this 14-year-old fan of hers, and she never do that.
8:41 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
8:43 Speaker 04 No, she, you can't fault her. You really. Okay, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what's really bad about it. You can't, there's no way to.
8:52 Amy Poehler? And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is, I mean, she's the founder of a hugely successful business. And, you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business.
9:11 Speaker 04 We once compared each other's net worth. And I told her what my net worth was, and she went, "Oh, that's so cute." It's just adorable.
9:22 Amy Poehler? You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other?
9:27 Speaker 04 I went like this. Wow. And she went like this. You know what? It's amazing. I've never seen her, I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all, collapsing from the pressure of it all. And so, a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much? I also think, another thing to ask her about are her music. You know, she's this massively successful singer-songwriter.
10:07 Speaker 04 And, but I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough for real early influences and what was the first song that she fell in love with.
10:19 Amy Poehler? I love that. On set, is there singing?
10:22 Speaker 04 When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing.
10:24 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
10:27 Speaker 04 Steve, sometimes he'll bring his banjo. You know what I say about the banjo? The banjo makes people who play the jug say, "Really?" But anyway. But no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true.
10:47 Amy Poehler? Yeah, just make it up.
10:49 Speaker 04 You know what I heard?
10:52 Amy Poehler? Okay, I'm gonna ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. And I'm gonna, and I do wanna talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally, you know, we don't treat female-run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business, and it is crushing everything else.
11:17 Speaker 04 Let me tell you something. When I look at not only what Selena's done, but what you've done and what Tina's done, I find myself very proud of you ladies.
11:31 Amy Poehler? Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us?
11:35 Speaker 04 I am proud because...
11:36 Amy Poehler? Why, you're my, are you my dad?
11:39 Speaker 04 No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying, "You want cream in that coffee?", but you're not.
11:46 Amy Poehler? This doesn't feel good.
11:50 Speaker 04 I'm trying to be as kind as a condescending guy can be.
12:00 Amy Poehler? I love you so much. Thank you.
12:02 Speaker 04 I remember doing something, but I will repeat it one more time.
12:05 Amy Poehler? Oh!
12:06 Speaker 04 It's from the SNL 50th.
12:15 Amy Poehler? Oh, God, I can't wait. My phone is standing by.
12:18 Speaker 04 Actually, why don't you call me on my cell?
12:20 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you have mine.
12:23 Speaker 04 It's what?
12:24 Amy Poehler? A call you? I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you, can you just text it to me?
12:29 Speaker 04 No, no, no, it's too long.
12:31 Amy Poehler? Oh, my God.
12:32 Speaker 04 It's, what is wrong with the phone?
12:34 Amy Poehler? I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels...
12:38 Speaker 04 First of all, we're not gonna, this isn't gonna be the length of Shoah. It was a brief little story.
12:44 Amy Poehler? To me, a phone conver, phone call is bad news. Like, why am I on the phone?
12:49 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no. But is this, and I, again, oh, my God, I so don't mean this condescendingly negatively. But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Cher doesn't like the phone?
13:03 Amy Poehler? Well, you know that I try to not like anything that Cher doesn't like.
13:09 Speaker 04 I know.
13:09 Amy Poehler? You know how I do.
13:11 Speaker 04 I know.
13:12 Amy Poehler? I, uh, I would, you know what? Just snap me. Just Snapchat me.
13:17 Speaker 04 Okay, I'm not, you know what? This is too boring. I'm not giving you this information. I can't.
13:22 Amy Poehler? Shit, okay. I'm calling you, calling you right now. Calling you right now. Okay, hanging up. So I can get the, okay. Love you, Marty. Bye.
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14:20 Amy Poehler? Selena Gomez is here. I kind of wanted to start today by saying, like, I feel like so many people will talk to you about the past. They want to talk to you about things that happened, but I want to stay in the present.
14:33 Speaker 05 Yes.
14:34 Amy Poehler? And talk about the future. I know. Because your present is pretty amazing right now.
14:42 Speaker 05 Thank you so much.
14:43 Amy Poehler? Congratulations on the past couple of years.
14:46 Speaker 05 I appreciate it. Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people, I genuinely appreciate you saying that because it's, people are going to think I'm permanently anhedonic of just not enjoying anything in life.
14:58 Amy Poehler? Wait, what's that word?
14:59 Speaker 05 Anhedonic, meaning unable to enjoy.
15:03 Speaker 05 Things.
15:04 Amy Poehler? Wow.
15:05 Speaker 05 And I really wanted, I really love this era.
15:09 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
15:09 Speaker 05 You will. The past five years have been wonderful.
15:13 Amy Poehler? Super creative for you.
15:14 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's just been a gift that keeps giving from only murders to rare. All of it's just, I can't, I have to pinch myself sometimes.
15:23 Amy Poehler? We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created, and you're running a billion dollar business, two billion dollar business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. You've got, you've, like, the past couple of years have felt like they've been this big joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people, it's like, if this was, if your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter?
15:49 Speaker 05 Oh.
15:52 Speaker 05 Gosh, I wouldn't.
15:53 Amy Poehler? Can I pitch you some ideas?
15:54 Speaker 05 Yes.
15:56 Amy Poehler? I would say something like, um, really simple but poetic, like, um, the best part yet.
16:04 Speaker 05 Oh.
16:04 Amy Poehler? Or, um.
16:07 Speaker 05 The best is yet to come.
16:09 Amy Poehler? The best is yet to come. Or the, the best is here, the best is here, babe.
16:14 Speaker 05 Oh.
16:15 Amy Poehler? Or, what is the best?
16:20 Amy Poehler? Let me tell you.
16:21 Speaker 05 Thirty-three and feeling free, or whatever.
16:23 Amy Poehler? But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic, successful business that, in my opinion, like, does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that? Did you?
16:49 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's actually interesting because my, my Nana was all about self-care as, as far as, you know, taking good care of your skin. Um, but my mom was a makeup artist.
17:04 Amy Poehler? No way.
17:05 Speaker 05 So, yes. And she worked at MAC, so she had like.
17:08 Amy Poehler? She was at the counter.
17:10 Speaker 05 And I love it, you know, like I think she she would give me all of her products that she was done with. And she would do them for her photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for like little things. And it was really cool. So, um, yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out and I'm glad considering the pictures I see now. I just would, I would stick on all the colors and it just was really fun for me to play with. And now my sister is gonna be 13.
17:41 Amy Poehler? I know.
17:42 Speaker 05 It's so weird, but she's awesome.
17:44 Amy Poehler? 12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.
17:46 Speaker 05 Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out.
17:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And also I noticed that like 12, you're still kind of, you'll like dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with with boys and girls. It's not gendered where like you just start to be conscious of being self-conscious and you just, I know.
18:10 Speaker 05 Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It's, it is a vast difference and it makes me worried and also encouraged because I have, you know, trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still, so I try to like pull that out of her.
18:32 Amy Poehler? Yeah. It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age, basically. Like no matter the person, like you wanna, it's a secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you.
18:49 Speaker 05 Exactly.
18:50 Amy Poehler? That's the power, but it takes so long to learn.
18:53 Speaker 05 It's true. But she's been like, you know, when you were Joy, um, it was actually, I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed.
19:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
19:06 Speaker 05 Because it is so factual, how I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because. I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart and my sister watched it and she started crying and it's, um, was that just crazy?
19:28 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you know, I think what if for people listening, it's, I think you're referring, no, to Inside Out.
19:32 Speaker 05 Yes.
19:33 Amy Poehler? And in the second one, are you talking about Inside Out too?
19:35 Speaker 05 Yeah.
19:36 Amy Poehler? Yeah, there's that like kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in.
19:40 Speaker 05 Yes.
19:41 Amy Poehler? And suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in and I have to say, same, no matter the age.
19:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
19:48 Amy Poehler? You're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above, like you're just remembering that moment when your paint set, you know, got some darker colors in it.
20:03 Speaker 05 Definitely.
20:04 Amy Poehler? And it's, I mean, it's part of growing up.
20:07 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:08 Amy Poehler? But it's, it's brutal.
20:10 Speaker 05 It is. I just, but you, you, I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie?
20:15 Amy Poehler? I know.
20:16 Speaker 05 If you haven't seen it, please watch.
20:17 Amy Poehler? They're geniuses.
20:18 Speaker 05 I just think it's incredible and congratulations.
20:20 Amy Poehler? Thanks, Selena.
20:21 Speaker 05 I'm gonna make my children watch it.
20:23 Amy Poehler? Oh, my God, your children!
20:25 Speaker 05 I know.
20:26 Amy Poehler? I wanna be, I wanna see our little babies!
20:27 Speaker 05 I am.
20:28 Amy Poehler? I know, I know, I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait.
20:30 Speaker 05 I know.
20:31 Amy Poehler? Um, I also wanna talk to you about like typical day.
20:35 Speaker 05 Okay.
20:36 Amy Poehler? Of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs.
20:41 Speaker 05 Yes.
20:42 Amy Poehler? And one would be enough and you have a lot of full-time jobs and you know, um, the great Martin Short, I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests' back and, and he's, you know, he's such, so in love with you and we, he was just saying like, I never see Selena like overwhelmed, like she doesn't do that thing, which is like, oh, I can't handle today, right? Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once.
21:08 Speaker 05 Yeah.
21:09 Amy Poehler? What's a typical day like for you?
21:10 Speaker 05 Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true though.
21:14 Amy Poehler? You're just hiding it.
21:16 Speaker 05 I think it's, I, well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer balance, but it is when I, when I am doing only murders, it's. You know, it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's five days a week and I have like my entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kinda have to have all of my focus there.
21:40 Amy Poehler? Yep.
21:41 Speaker 05 Does not mean that I'm not answering emails, well texts. I don't like email.
21:46 Amy Poehler? Oh, my God, Martin, Marty wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, are you nuts?
21:51 Speaker 05 I they've made, I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there, but I've turned into both of them somehow.
21:58 Amy Poehler? And you're talking on the sending faxes?
21:59 Speaker 05 Yes, and I don't.
22:03 Amy Poehler? Using a file of fax?
22:04 Speaker 05 Yeah, I just, I'm always, if I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she a thousand percent will go there. And it could be a complete failure.
22:25 Amy Poehler? So you can be like, I, I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to like have a lemon, you know, do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever?
22:34 Speaker 05 Yeah, I definitely will come up with things.
22:37 Amy Poehler? What have you come up with that you're like, that was good?
22:40 Speaker 05 Well, when we first started the company, I'd say the blushes were the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was, that was one of the most important, you know, moments for Rare. And I think the, the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way and you can just feel it and smell it even. And I, I was able to go to Italy where, you know, we did our, most of our products and it's, it's wild, you know? It's just, it's a whole process.
23:21 Amy Poehler? You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have.
23:30 Amy Poehler? Easily accessible products, they're easy to open.
23:34 Speaker 05 Yes.
23:36 Amy Poehler? Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen?
23:40 Speaker 05 So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers. And that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. And we somehow inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, wait, they kind of have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems.
24:23 Speaker 05 And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. And that's why we want to make them easy and accessible because it's important to me and it always has been. So even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use.
24:46 Amy Poehler? It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very, always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own challenges, health challenges, to inform your story and your product. Because it really makes people feel very seen.
25:01 Speaker 05 Definitely. And I think there's, you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know, I've been through it, so I think I just know how it feels. And I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now, you know?
25:18 Amy Poehler? Do we have the scent here?
25:20 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah.
25:20 Amy Poehler? May I?
25:21 Speaker 05 Yes, please.
25:22 Amy Poehler? Look, so this is my fake food wall.
25:24 Speaker 05 I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home.
25:27 Amy Poehler? You do?
25:28 Speaker 05 Yeah.
25:28 Amy Poehler? What kind of stuff do you hear? Do you recognize? Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple of reasons.
25:32 Speaker 05 Well, okay, basically, we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash.
25:42 Amy Poehler? And they're fake orange peels?
25:45 Speaker 05 Yeah.
25:45 Amy Poehler? It's art.
25:46 Speaker 05 It's art.
25:49 Amy Poehler? I love it.
25:49 Speaker 05 Might be my fiance's choice.
25:54 Amy Poehler? Benny's like, babe, we gotta get these orange peels.
25:56 Speaker 05 It's like they're the deal.
25:57 Amy Poehler? And you're like, okay, I'm afraid people are gonna throw them away.
26:01 Speaker 05 Yeah, multiple people have tried. But yeah, so can I show you?
26:05 Amy Poehler? Yes, please.
26:06 Speaker 05 Basically, it's so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it.
26:12 Amy Poehler? And what are we calling this fragrance?
26:14 Speaker 05 This is called Rare Aude Parfum. I learned that. But I just say it's my rare perfume. So you can do it with, you know, your hands. You can do it however you feel like if you want to. Oh, I was gonna spray it right in my eyes.
26:28 Amy Poehler? I can smell it right now.
26:29 Speaker 05 So I know, I just realized I overdid it.
26:31 Amy Poehler? No, no, let me smell, let me take it in.
26:32 Speaker 05 It will definitely.
26:34 Amy Poehler? Oh yeah, it smells nice.
26:35 Speaker 05 It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I sprayed it.
26:40 Speaker 05 I'm like, it's in my mouth.
26:42 Amy Poehler? It smells. It's, you know, the very funny bit, which is like, you know, in the eighties, you would like spray your cologne and then you'd walk through it.
26:49 Speaker 05 Oh, it's the gentle.
26:51 Amy Poehler? Yes.
26:51 Speaker 05 Yes.
26:52 Amy Poehler? You'd make it a thing.
26:53 Speaker 05 I think that's what I should have done.
26:55 Amy Poehler? Okay, this smells really good. Everybody here is like.
26:58 Speaker 05 We're waiting for it to calm down.
27:00 Amy Poehler? Everybody likes the smell in here.
27:02 Speaker 05 It'll be here for a minute.
27:04 Amy Poehler? And then we light it on fire. So we really do some pyrotechnics in here.
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29:34 Amy Poehler? So I got to talk to Marty Short.
29:37 Speaker 05 Yeah.
29:38 Amy Poehler? And he was so nice. You know, he came on this podcast.
29:43 Speaker 05 He was your first guest.
29:43 Amy Poehler? He was like my first guest, him and Tina. And him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours, too. And I grew up loving them, but I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together, and of course, the show is a big, giant hit, and I said, you know, what's it like working with Selena? Like, she seems great, but you know, you never know. And every report back has been, and always has been, like, you're such a pro.
30:19 Speaker 05 My papa used to say, if you are on time, you're already late.
30:25 Speaker 05 So that means I get to places 30 minutes before, or I've had, my team has had to trick me because I show up so early, but I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The, the feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty. And they really, you know, spearhead the whole, you know, they started the pyramid and everything happens. And they just, they are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's, that's a huge inspiration to me.
31:08 Speaker 05 And it, it just, they've been working for so long. And if I'm tired and they're not sometimes, I'm like, whoa, okay, I can do this, you know? They, they've really, um, I've been very lucky to work with people who are, you know, punctual. And I, I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable experience.
31:29 Amy Poehler? I don't think people realize in our industry, like most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired. But in our, in our industry, in the music industry, in the, in acting and in television and film, people sometimes just don't come on time. And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you can't, you can't get away with that.
31:56 Speaker 05 Yeah, I wonder why?
31:57 Amy Poehler? I don't, I, I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely, like real, like the magnanimous theory is that real artists like are often, you know, in their own kind of creative space and like time isn't, maybe their time management maybe isn't their biggest skill.
32:16 Speaker 05 Yeah.
32:17 Amy Poehler? That's a, that's a generous way to think about it. And then the less generous way is I think to your point about anxiety, for some people.
32:28 Amy Poehler? There's just like a struggle to figure out the power dynamics and one way to get power is to make people wait. It's my worst nightmare.
32:37 Speaker 05 That's yeah. I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out.
32:44 Amy Poehler? It's so stressful.
32:45 Speaker 05 It's also, I don't want to hurt, I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care like about me that way. But I think it's disrespectful. Um, no, it's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to, but for me, it just, I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs the whole day at work. If I made the crew wait even 30 minutes, I'd be like, I'm so sorry.
33:10 Amy Poehler? I know. Like there's, I mean, we all make mistakes for humans, but there are the few times that I've overslept or I, I, I cannot tolerate the feeling of, of knowing people are waiting.
33:23 Speaker 05 That's so nice to know that there's more people like that.
33:26 Amy Poehler? Are you an early to airport person?
33:27 Speaker 05 No.
33:29 Amy Poehler? Oh, what?
33:30 Speaker 05 I don't, I don't push it, but I do, I don't like being.
33:34 Amy Poehler? This is interesting.
33:35 Speaker 05 In, um, an airport because it, it like is, as you can tell, I'm a very like anxious person in a way, but I, I don't know. It gets me.
33:49 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
33:49 Speaker 05 Like overstimulated. Thank you.
33:51 Amy Poehler? You want to, you want to kind of like keep walking right onto the plane.
33:55 Speaker 05 And then get in my little.
33:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
33:57 Speaker 05 Like it.
33:58 Amy Poehler? I'm the opposite.
33:59 Speaker 05 Okay.
34:00 Amy Poehler? I like to get there with plenty of time.
34:02 Speaker 05 Okay.
34:02 Amy Poehler? Go look at the gate.
34:05 Speaker 05 Go look at the gate.
34:06 Amy Poehler? You have to see, yeah, I have to see the gate.
34:08 Speaker 05 That's true. Make sure it's there.
34:09 Amy Poehler? Make sure it's there. Look at the plane. Look at the gate. Like very like airport dad.
34:14 Speaker 05 Love that.
34:14 Amy Poehler? Go up to the person and be like, looks like we're taking up on time. Like I like to, I like to kick the tires a little bit.
34:20 Speaker 05 I love that.
34:21 Amy Poehler? And have plenty of time to just like be a little hyperventilant, but I understand. You, the, the airport is a nightmare.
34:27 Speaker 05 It's just stimu-, it's overstimulating, but I will say, if I'm at the Dallas airport. I like to take my time.
34:34 Amy Poehler? Ooh, why? What's at the Dallas airport?
34:36 Speaker 05 First off, it's my home. Second, it's just, I mean, what a burger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport.
34:45 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you could get lost there.
34:46 Speaker 05 I just want to spend time there. It's, it's, yeah, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be overstimulating.
34:53 Amy Poehler? Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in.
34:56 Speaker 05 Oh, that's clever.
34:58 Amy Poehler? I'm not always thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in.
35:02 Speaker 05 Yes.
35:04 Amy Poehler? The airport is a great place to get them in.
35:05 Speaker 05 Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases? You can do that. There's automatic.
35:14 Amy Poehler? Adults?
35:15 Speaker 05 Oh, I've seen adults. I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something.
35:21 Amy Poehler? Riding the suitcases.
35:22 Speaker 05 It is grown, yes.
35:25 Amy Poehler? I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious. And I don't mean to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no.
35:33 Speaker 05 And you're kind. Yeah, that's so true.
35:36 Amy Poehler? Or anyone who brings their own pillow.
35:41 Amy Poehler? It's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand. But if you don't.
35:48 Speaker 05 Why are you gonna have it?
35:49 Amy Poehler? Okay, so back to Marty. So Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting, I mean, you are, you have been, you, this is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people, and it keeps getting recognized in, you know, by your peers and lauded by critics. And, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time.
36:19 Speaker 05 Oh, God, thank you. That's a huge compliment.
36:21 Amy Poehler? And you were very funny on Wizards.
36:23 Speaker 05 Thank you.
36:24 Amy Poehler? And.
36:25 Speaker 05 I'm like, what? How have you seen it?
36:28 Amy Poehler? But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your, like, your timing, which is so much, so much, you know, is such a big.
36:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
36:39 Amy Poehler? It's, wow, I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impeccable.
36:46 Speaker 05 I, I don't, I am. It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace, Friends, of course, you know, Channel 33 would be Frasier after.
37:05 Speaker 05 Yeah.
37:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah, who did you, who did you love, who were your comedic heroes growing up?
37:10 Speaker 05 Oh, well, I mean, that's different because I feel like when I have watched, because I didn't watch like, stand up. It was actually introduced to me when I was probably like 18, just because I was this Texas bumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was, I believe it was, see, I'm terrible. Oh, Ali Wong, when she was pregnant.
37:38 Amy Poehler? No way, that was your first stand up special?
37:40 Speaker 05 Yeah. And I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll like, you know, Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians. And it's actually, I have a whole appreciation and, you know, obviously for Steve and Marty knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty, it's pretty inspiring. I don't know how, other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. But I will say Wizards was so fun because I had the, I had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney, so it was fun.
38:21 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
38:22 Speaker 05 Now, this was a bit scarier.
38:24 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them, I have to say. They're really deeply funny and they're really good joke writers.
38:31 Speaker 05 They're very good.
38:33 Amy Poehler? And their material, like they're always searching for like the better joke and they're really, they won't kind of rest until they get it.
38:40 Speaker 05 It's true. Trust me, I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out and I'm like, it's funny, guys, it's funny.
38:46 Amy Poehler? Guys, we got it. I know, I mean, still, you know, when I work with them or people that are kind of like trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and. People, you know, the best comedians will just keep going, but do you think
39:04 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:04 Amy Poehler? Up until the very last minute?
39:06 Speaker 05 That is something that I love, though, because it's so fun, but I must have heard their bits a hundred times, but I could finish them. But so I just try to, at a group hang, I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like, wow! And it's the 20th time I've heard them. But it's actually so sweet.
39:31 Amy Poehler? So sweet.
39:31 Speaker 05 Because they, they've been best friends for like 35 or something years.
39:37 Amy Poehler? Their, their relationship is really awesome to watch.
39:39 Speaker 05 It's so cute. I love it.
39:40 Amy Poehler? And, you know, having truly, I looked up to both of them when I was growing up. They, I can't believe that I know them. Like, I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine.
39:49 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:50 Amy Poehler? Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?
39:53 Speaker 05 Uh, honestly, them and Meryl.
39:57 Amy Poehler? Yes.
39:58 Speaker 05 I, I can't even imagine, like, my life is really weird sometimes because I, we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We, we don't, you know, we want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely, I believe and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show, because we just have fun and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want.
40:26 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
40:27 Speaker 05 So I feel like I lost track of what I was.
40:30 Amy Poehler? Well, I was saying, who can you believe you're friends with?
40:32 Speaker 05 Oh.
40:32 Amy Poehler? And Meryl, I mean, ultimate.
40:34 Speaker 05 But everyone. Dave Vine, I love. Michael Creighton, I love.
40:38 Amy Poehler? Yeah. You've had such.
40:41 Speaker 05 Richard Kind. I'm sorry.
40:42 Amy Poehler? Bing bong.
40:43 Speaker 05 He's one of my favorite.
40:44 Amy Poehler? Bing bong.
40:45 Speaker 05 I know. I'm too obsessed with your movie, but.
40:49 Amy Poehler? Which, every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this reaction because of his voice, because we never recorded together, but in, in Inside Out, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character. And Richard is such a like. Big personality.
41:06 Speaker 05 He's so great.
41:08 Amy Poehler? He's so great. And it's, but it's very, it's filled with a ton of pathos. Like you really feel big feelings when you're around Richard.
41:14 Speaker 05 Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just, one time he had to walk down a hall and open a door and he just like walked all the way down and we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall and he goes, "Oh, well, I didn't know that." And I was like, "Yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times."
41:39 Amy Poehler? And then do you guys improvise? Like, do you do like, do you do takes?
41:43 Speaker 05 We do have freedom takes is what we call them.
41:45 Amy Poehler? Freedom takes. We call them on Parks and Recreation, we call them fun runs.
41:49 Speaker 05 Oh, that's awesome. I like, that sounds more fun.
41:52 Amy Poehler? Freedom takes.
41:53 Speaker 05 Yeah, freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say. He'll be like, "Okay, okay, but let's do a freedom take." And then, and then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land.
42:06 Amy Poehler? Oh, I know. I'm always like, get ready for Titty longer.
42:09 Speaker 05 And then no one laughs and you're like, ah.
42:12 Amy Poehler? You're like, "I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take." And then you do it and everyone's like, "Moving on."
42:17 Speaker 05 Yeah. Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it too, because they, they are, they're very sweet to me, but they'll, they'll, they'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like, "Mmm, that didn't work." I was like, "Okay." I really appreciate it.
42:30 Amy Poehler? They're pros. They will not, they will not say it's funny if, if, if it's not.
42:34 Speaker 05 Yeah.
42:35 Amy Poehler? And, okay, we should take a lip balm break, by the way.
42:38 Speaker 05 Sure.
42:38 Amy Poehler? I take a lip. Do you have your lip?
42:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, I do.
42:41 Amy Poehler? Oh.
42:42 Speaker 05 What kind of balm do you use?
42:46 Amy Poehler? You don't know which ones?
42:47 Speaker 05 Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Lanesh.
42:50 Amy Poehler? I see. Okay.
42:52 Speaker 05 But I could be sponsored by Rare View. I'm not. You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says, but um.
42:59 Amy Poehler? My contract is if I have a beauty contract.
43:03 Amy Poehler? You know, Selena, my beauty contracts. What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight.
43:10 Speaker 05 So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one.
43:13 Amy Poehler? Okay. Oh, these are great. Okay, the reviews in, they're great.
43:18 Speaker 05 If you just let them in.
43:21 Amy Poehler? Like it a lot. So let's get to Marty's question.
43:24 Speaker 05 Oh, good grief.
43:25 Amy Poehler? Marty had a question for you, and it was a sweet one, I think, because, you know, he was saying, you know, he was like, I don't think I talk to Selena enough about her music, you know? And she's such a sweet.
43:36 Speaker 05 That's so cute.
43:37 Amy Poehler? I know, it's such a cute thing to say. And I mean, also, let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being, you know, comedic geniuses, are also excellent musicians.
43:48 Speaker 05 It's true.
43:49 Amy Poehler? But he, his question was very, you know, sweet, which was basically like, just like, hold on, let me get it right. Okay, so he said, like, who were some of your early musical influences? And what was the song that you fell in love with early?
44:04 Speaker 05 Ooh.
44:05 Amy Poehler? I know.
44:06 Speaker 05 Well, it was interesting because my dad, growing up, was a DJ. So I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hip hop. But my mom was very creative. So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music. When, you know, other things were happening, she'd kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music. So I loved listening to all styles of music.
44:36 Amy Poehler? What, what's, what is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it?
44:42 Speaker 05 I think, well, Linda Ronstadt has an incredible album that is in Spanish. And she, to me, since, you know, the days of Selena Quintanilla, who, who kind of popped, you know, made it like a pop version of it.
44:59 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
45:00 Speaker 05 Linda's, I thought, was incredible, too, because it's so musically.
45:07 Speaker 05 Charged.
45:08 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
45:08 Speaker 05 The instruments make everything sound so grand. And then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. And it just, just hearing her, I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but
45:22 Amy Poehler? I have.
45:23 Speaker 05 It's so beautiful.
45:24 Amy Poehler? She's definitely like a voice of my childhood as well. Like her, my mom used to play Linda Rossella. She's just an amazing singer. And you've, you've recorded in Spanish, too.
45:34 Speaker 05 Yeah.
45:34 Amy Poehler? Did your voice change when you sang in a different language?
45:36 Speaker 05 It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things. And I, I don't know why.
45:48 Amy Poehler? Yeah. It's so interesting. I can imagine, because it's like, I don't know. It's, you're yourself, but you're playing a, you're just playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. And it's, it's so interesting to be singing.
46:03 Speaker 05 A different language.
46:04 Amy Poehler? Yeah. It's really difficult.
46:06 Speaker 05 It's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it.
46:10 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And you are now living with a musician.
46:13 Speaker 05 Yes.
46:13 Amy Poehler? Two musicians.
46:14 Speaker 05 Yes.
46:15 Amy Poehler? What's it like in a house with two musicians? Orange peels everywhere.
46:18 Speaker 05 Well, there's orange peels to go around.
46:20 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
46:21 Speaker 05 And I'd say he's obviously, I, hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me, musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know? And I, and it's not because I'm playing down myself. I, I'm really not. I'm just, I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter, and everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over.
46:53 Amy Poehler? That's what I imagine, is that he's playing a lot of beats.
46:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, he's creating things. I, I would like to categorize myself more as an actress. So there isn't any.
47:08 Speaker 05 Competition, I guess, not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny and it was amazing. Because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours and it was fun. But I think I think I really depend on him for, you know, any of the taste playlists, that kind of stuff.
47:29 Amy Poehler? Congrats on your engagement.
47:31 Speaker 05 Thank you so much.
47:32 Amy Poehler? And I have to say, the other thing that I have loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just like being like, oh, cool. Selena's trying this, your cooking show? I love a cooking show.
47:43 Speaker 05 Yeah.
47:43 Amy Poehler? And I love cooking and it was, for me, it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up. You know, I had a working mom, we didn't have, you know, we didn't, there wasn't a ton of, I didn't cook in the home when I was young. And I had my kids, I was working a lot, I didn't cook as much. And so I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are too. What kind of?
48:14 Speaker 05 So the whole, this is what I love when people say, you are a chef because you had a cooking show.
48:21 Amy Poehler? No. Right, but you like.
48:22 Speaker 05 The idea, yes, the idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say, I still don't know how. Because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. And I think that was very challenging for me.
48:44 Amy Poehler? Okay.
48:44 Speaker 05 But it was fun because I'd get it right, but it would take me five to seven hours to do it.
48:51 Amy Poehler? But what I liked about it is.
48:53 Speaker 05 Crazy.
48:53 Amy Poehler? You know, you're, you're basically, to your point, you're watching somebody learn and you're learning with them. And it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watching.
49:04 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, that's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels. I don't know if he'd like admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because he tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, now what? And he'll go, so we're gonna, we're gonna make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm gonna car- caramelize them, whatever. See, I don't even know what lingo.
49:28 Amy Poehler? Yep.
49:29 Speaker 05 He's like, I'm gonna do this, chop the basil, and then he'd like, completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that. I just think it's so endearing.
49:39 Amy Poehler? Well, I think cooking is a good way, speaking of anxiety, for me, it's like a place to put anxiety.
49:44 Speaker 05 Yes.
49:46 Amy Poehler? Cause it's very low risk, high reward. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like, whatever. You just order in or just tried, but if it does, you feel really good about yourself.
49:56 Speaker 05 You're very proud, for sure. I, I, I enjoy cooking, I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with Benny. Because he has, he has, he's so good, he's just really good at it.
50:11 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
50:12 Speaker 05 It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended. He was like, why haven't you done that for me?
50:21 Amy Poehler? Dinner?
50:21 Speaker 05 I'm like, cause mine was frozen and then I added a sauce. He does everything.
50:26 Amy Poehler? You're like, I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take, I can't, I can't talk to you right now.
50:30 Speaker 05 But I try.
50:31 Amy Poehler? What is your, what's a meal that you like, that you know to cook and you cook?
50:35 Speaker 05 Oh, my Nana's Chicken and Dumplings. It's a very southern dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strip, not, not just shredded chicken and a soup. It's the best cozy weather.
50:53 Amy Poehler? That sounds good.
50:54 Speaker 05 It's so fun.
50:55 Amy Poehler? I love also, you know, to like zoom out what was great about that show is, you know, it's just you enjoying food.
51:04 Speaker 05 Yeah.
51:05 Amy Poehler? Because
51:06 Speaker 05 I love food.
51:06 Amy Poehler? You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy.
51:09 Speaker 05 Yeah.
51:10 Amy Poehler? What is your, how has your relationship with food changed?
51:12 Speaker 05 Uh, it, it hasn't necessarily changed, it's broadened.
51:17 Amy Poehler? Mm-hmm.
51:18 Speaker 05 And...
51:20 Speaker 05 Benny has spoiled me a little bit. Because he is, again, not to talk about it, but all the time. But he would, he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. So it's, it's really funny. I'm just like totally airing him out right now. But I think he, he does this thing where he'll say, I'll say, wow, this risotto is incredible. And he'll taste it and he'll say, well, you know, I would, I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more and then like, you see how this is set? And I just like to like stare at him because it's so cute.
52:00 Amy Poehler? He's constantly tweaking it.
52:02 Speaker 05 Yeah, he always, he always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's gonna be like, what?
52:10 Amy Poehler? It's a very sweet, like making food for someone is a really tender act.
52:13 Speaker 05 It is.
52:14 Amy Poehler? It's really loving act.
52:15 Speaker 05 Very kind act.
52:16 Amy Poehler? It is.
52:18 Speaker 05 He, I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him.
52:25 Amy Poehler? At least I can speak for me where you just kind of start thinking about like, what, what do I want to make tonight? Okay. And your brain, you know, your high, your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something. And then it can land on a list and it can think about timing and it can think, and it like has to click clack away on something. And it's, if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful.
52:48 Speaker 05 Yeah.
52:49 Amy Poehler? It's, and it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing that you were.
52:53 Speaker 05 It's a feeling of accomplishment.
52:55 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
52:55 Speaker 05 And I, I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching like TikToks of people cooking. Those are my favorite.
53:04 Amy Poehler? Me too.
53:05 Speaker 05 I could just, I just appreciate it so much. And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world. And it's just really, yeah, that's, that's me. That would be my feed for sure.
53:18 Amy Poehler? Do you go on TikTok? Because that must be treacherous.
53:21 Speaker 05 No, so.
53:24 Speaker 05 Actually haven't been on TikTok.
53:26 Amy Poehler? That's great.
53:27 Speaker 05 In.
53:27 Amy Poehler? I'm sorry TikTok, but.
53:29 Speaker 05 No, it's okay.
53:29 Amy Poehler? We need a break.
53:30 Speaker 05 All social media platforms, I'm sure, hate me at this point because I'm always like, ah, I don't know. It's very, can be scary.
53:36 Amy Poehler? 400 million Instagram followers.
53:38 Speaker 05 So, that's, it's fine, but.
53:40 Amy Poehler? I mean, it's fine, says Serena.
53:42 Speaker 05 Well, no, I'm just saying, I get so like awkward about that. Because it doesn't, I don't, I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing.
53:52 Amy Poehler? Um, because I, my experience with social media, I think, is that we may share a similarity, which is that I, I feel it's like treacherous, but it can be, to your point, like, you can find ways to feel connection.
54:07 Speaker 05 Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with, you know, just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's, it's been a great resource for me to connect with people. I have not been on social media for a few months now. Even when I post, sometimes it's just to make sure it's like, like on my post and feed, and then I don't look at anything.
54:38 Amy Poehler? Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people.
54:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, and I, and I like.
54:42 Amy Poehler? This is happening and, and I feel good about it.
54:44 Speaker 05 Doing it my way, you know? And I think if I were to get into something, and I, oh, sorry, I'm all over the place. But, and I also just want people to know, like, if it didn't come from me, it's, it's 90% false or anything. I just love being able to say, this is where I am and I'm enjoying it. And I'm willing to share that part of my life and maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it.
55:10 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And then the, the, it leads me kind of to one of our last questions, which is basically. Energy, giving it, getting it. Like, it sounds like for every person in their 30s, I would say, it's one of the big lessons is figuring out, okay, if your 20s is like trying to figure out, you know, what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then your 30s become like, okay, let's, let's, let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow.
55:40 Speaker 05 Of course.
55:41 Amy Poehler? So how do you, how do you, what have you learned about, you know, self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life, or you can share the things that you're happy about, and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you, but still keep.
55:59 Speaker 05 I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my, on my, on my page. Just simply because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that with, with the world. Oh, sorry. That's my ride, guys.
56:20 Amy Poehler? Wait, this is why Selena's such a pro, is that she just stopped talking during a siren. That is.
56:27 Amy Poehler? You're just like, you don't go looking for trouble.
56:30 Speaker 05 I don't think it's, it's healthy. So I'll, I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it. I think it's important. But yeah, I don't, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am.
56:50 Amy Poehler? And you know, you kind of like spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You, you give a lot of your time, and you give a lot of your money. And in many ways, you know, time can be harder to give than money, and you give both. And it's, you have for a very long time, like you toured with UNICEF for many, many years. You were an ambassador. We're Beauty gives a ton of money. I was really impressed with what you guys do with your.
57:21 Speaker 05 And that's also the community because 1% of our product. So it's, again, it's people contributing to helping.
57:27 Amy Poehler? It's awesome.
57:28 Speaker 05 Young people have access to mental health.
57:31 Amy Poehler? When you are kind of one on one dealing with someone you've now been famous for a really long time and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you and that's energy, right? Like they wanna, they wanna connect with you, you feel that. I know you've been like extremely loving and very supportive of people, but it's, it's a lot to be approached sometimes with a lot of energy. So what do you say no to now that you didn't before? Or how do you kind of like guard your own energy, your own?
58:03 Speaker 05 It's very difficult for me to say no to, to people that I get to encounter. It's my Nana taking in her 14th picture of my outfit. I'm like, I can't do this. Please stop. I gotta go.
58:23 Amy Poehler? I gotta make your dumpling. You have to go make your dumpling.
58:26 Speaker 05 But I, I don't think, I don't know how to, how to answer that.
58:32 Amy Poehler? Well, it's, I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels, may I answer for you?
58:39 Speaker 05 Well, let me, yeah, cuz I'm thinking.
58:40 Amy Poehler? Well, because I feel protective of you because I, as a woman who is older and you know, I think you're, any woman in their 30s, I think, is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically, you start protecting it.
59:00 Speaker 05 It is, and I think that'll happen more so if I, when I have kids.
59:07 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
59:08 Speaker 05 I'll probably put more boundaries up for, you know, the sake of, of the sanity of, you know, what that will look like. I have no idea, but I, I just, I feel like I owe a lot of people in the world.
59:25 Speaker 05 Any sort of smile, hug, you know, picture. So it's very hard. When I don't do it, I promise you, it's because I'm, I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety, or I'm late. Like, that's usually which I'm trying not to be. But like, if I have to go somewhere, but in, in general, it's, it's, it's very, it's, it's a lot. Cause I love doing it. I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person. It's so, it, it can get crazy in my head.
1:00:02 Amy Poehler? It can. It can be a little crazy making and it's, and, and Marty said something really sweet, which is like, you know, when, when you guys shoot in New York, you know, and there's whatever, you know, shooting in New York, just like living in New York is this, you're constantly on display and people will, you know, take photos. And he said like, Selena really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody who's like, you get very mom about that.
1:00:27 Speaker 05 I get very, yeah. I actually, that was probably one of the, the pictures from season two. Someone said a vile word to someone else. And it was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show, but I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like, yeah. And he like, the other people started laughing and I, I was like, I don't even care. I'm just so, I can't tolerate that kind of stuff, but then they want that reaction.
1:01:09 Amy Poehler? I know. They're baiting you, but you know, you're a human being. One finger in 33 years, like, there's probably been a couple more. We could probably find them.
1:01:18 Speaker 05 It's fine.
1:01:19 Amy Poehler? Okay. So I always ask my guests this, what, what stuff are you listening to right now? Watching?
1:01:26 Amy Poehler? Reading that makes you laugh. Cause it's not, it's a, it's, there's a, you've had in a beautiful couple of years. And also, you know, in the midst of like, there's a lot of heaviness in the world. Everybody is all, we're all in different spaces and places. And you've provided a lot of comedy for people who like really want to like, your show provides that for a lot of people. Who does that for you? Who are you?
1:01:54 Speaker 05 Oh, well. It's more so. The experiences I have, I love, I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity. Because, you know, I don't have a lot of that in my life. Cause I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on Only Murders, as long as we work, it's, those are the joyous. You know, making someone laugh or. Or just having, you know, your partner laugh with you and, and you're watching a movie together. It's.
1:02:36 Amy Poehler? What movies made you laugh lately?
1:02:38 Speaker 05 Lately, uh, friendship.
1:02:40 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah. Tim, are you a Tim Robinson fan?
1:02:42 Speaker 05 Yes.
1:02:43 Amy Poehler? Let's watch Tim, I love Tim Robinson so much.
1:02:46 Speaker 05 Hilarious. And very, it was so funny because a lot of like mixed emotions for people, but I was just like, this is just so funny. Because how, you know, broad it is.
1:02:58 Amy Poehler? Him and Paul Redd are great in it. And also Tim Robinson is in like the best kind of insane. I mean.
1:03:06 Speaker 05 It's like, where does he come up?
1:03:08 Amy Poehler? My kids are obsessed with Tim Robinson.
1:03:10 Speaker 05 Oh, that's awesome.
1:03:12 Amy Poehler? And have you watched his TV show?
1:03:14 Speaker 05 No.
1:03:14 Amy Poehler? Oh.
1:03:15 Speaker 05 That's what, yeah, that's what I need to get on.
1:03:18 Amy Poehler? You're gonna love it.
1:03:19 Speaker 05 It's, cause I.
1:03:20 Amy Poehler? I think you should leave. I think it's three seasons.
1:03:22 Speaker 05 Okay.
1:03:23 Amy Poehler? It's so funny.
1:03:24 Speaker 05 What I'll be doing now.
1:03:25 Amy Poehler? It's.
1:03:26 Speaker 05 I love it. I love it, but I'm also a big like lately, we've seen all the horror films, so.
1:03:32 Amy Poehler? Okay. You like to be scared?
1:03:33 Speaker 05 I loved Weapons.
1:03:35 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah.
1:03:36 Speaker 05 That movie, yes.
1:03:37 Amy Poehler? Thank you.
1:03:37 Speaker 05 I know, I know.
1:03:38 Amy Poehler? Oh, I just don't like to be scared.
1:03:39 Speaker 05 No, but.
1:03:40 Amy Poehler? I heard it's amazing.
1:03:41 Speaker 05 About 70% of the people in my life.
1:03:44 Amy Poehler? I saw the thing with the children running and I was like, that's a hell no for me. No way am I going to the movie, like two tickets, please. No way.
1:03:55 Speaker 05 I know.
1:03:56 Amy Poehler? No way.
1:03:57 Speaker 05 I know.
1:03:58 Amy Poehler? I don't like.
1:03:58 Speaker 05 It's such a weird thing.
1:03:59 Amy Poehler? But you like being scared a little bit.
1:04:01 Speaker 05 I do, I do.
1:04:01 Amy Poehler? Fun.
1:04:02 Speaker 05 But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore, but.
1:04:07 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
1:04:08 Speaker 05 I guess there was.
1:04:08 Amy Poehler? You want like a intriguing, suspenseful.
1:04:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, give me the jump scares every now and then.
1:04:14 Amy Poehler? What's your favorite horror movie? Or one of your favorites?
1:04:16 Speaker 05 All time?
1:04:17 Amy Poehler? Um. What do you like?
1:04:19 Speaker 05 I would say.
1:04:23 Speaker 05 I don't know, I really loved.
1:04:28 Speaker 05 I'm trying to think, Barbarian.
1:04:30 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah.
1:04:30 Speaker 05 The Conjuring, the first Conjuring was really one that I'll never forget. Because I was terrified.
1:04:38 Amy Poehler? If you don't watch it, then you never have to forget it.
1:04:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I would say one of those for sure.
1:04:44 Amy Poehler? Yeah. Okay, well, I Think You Should Leave is so great.
1:04:47 Speaker 05 Okay.
1:04:47 Amy Poehler? You'll love it, highly recommend. Watch one horror movie and then watch.
1:04:51 Speaker 05 A deal.
1:04:52 Amy Poehler? Six episodes.
1:04:52 Speaker 05 Cause that's how we do. You know, I do have to watch something nice after.
1:04:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah, to cleanse the palate.
1:04:57 Speaker 05 But no, I'm so, I have to. And you're not the only person, so I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at.
1:05:04 Amy Poehler? Well, thank you so much for coming.
1:05:05 Speaker 05 I'm so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having me.
1:05:09 Amy Poehler? It's a pleasure and truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way. And can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, future only, babe.
1:05:17 Speaker 05 Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the book. Future.
1:05:20 Amy Poehler? Future only, babe.
1:05:21 Speaker 05 Babe.
1:05:22 Amy Poehler? Past is the past.
1:05:26 Amy Poehler? Robots, robots.
1:05:27 Speaker 05 Robots.
1:05:28 Amy Poehler? Lip balm. Um.
1:05:30 Speaker 05 Tech, all of it.
1:05:31 Amy Poehler? Tech, all of it. That's all, that's also your next chapter. Tech, all of it.
1:05:37 Speaker 05 Tech, all of it.
1:05:37 Amy Poehler? And then just blank pages.
1:05:41 Amy Poehler? And then you just have your grandmother's recipe.
1:05:45 Speaker 05 I love it. Thank you so much.
1:05:48 Amy Poehler? It's so great.
1:05:50 Amy Poehler? Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're just a total peach, and it was really nice talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I just wanted, in the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it. I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with Blood Cancer United, and they help people, patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. And September is Childhood Cancer Month. So, look, you know, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with
1:06:32 Amy Poehler? it, who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love, and the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that, among many other things, resources, information. So, I don't know, I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform. And in an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you, Selena, for coming, and we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.
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