Pod Insights Good Hang with Amy Poehler Kathryn Hahn About this episode Kathryn Hahn is new to being a mother. Amy hangs with her friend and the star of 'Agatha All Along' to talk about meeting each other while working on 'Parks and Rec,' being anointed as "Mother Hahn," and getting joy from her dog, Banjo.
Host: Amy Poehler
Guests: Patti LuPone and Kathryn Hahn
Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman
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1:27 Amy Poehler? She's so talented, funny, smart. She can do it all. And people love working with her. And I loved working with her. And today, we talked about what is her relationship to work? What is her process? How important is it for her to feel connected to the stuff that she does? How is she dealing with this new version of fame and popularity? And how is it changing her life? And also, how important female friendships are? And how you really haven't met everyone you're supposed to meet, even at my age of 53? So I'm really excited for you to hear what Kathryn and I talked about today. It was a really good hang.
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3:14 Amy Poehler? Patty, are you there? Have you joined us? She's not. She's not there. She's still not there. Okay, so just to give you guys an update, Patty just checked in and said, "Got it. I'll have to be on my phone, okay? Putting on slap now." Uh, I don't know what that means. I'm gonna say, "Okay. Ha, ha, ha. Okay. Thanks so much." Okay, this is fun. So I don't know what putting on slap means. It either means she's slapping on makeup, or that's some kind of Broadway term. There you are! Wait, is that a term, putting slap on?
3:50 Speaker 01 Yeah, slap is an expression for makeup, yeah. Putting slap on.
3:54 Amy Poehler? Oh, I love you, Patty.
3:59 Speaker 01 I love you too, darling. Let me just put a little more slap on.
4:03 Amy Poehler? So what are you doing these days?
4:05 Speaker 01 Singing.
4:07 Amy Poehler? Yeah. Do you have a show tonight?
4:08 Speaker 01 No, I have a show on Monday, but what I have tonight is an opera.
4:13 Amy Poehler? You're attending it, or you're singing in it?
4:15 Speaker 01 I am. No, I'm attending it. My friend is taking me. Let me just get the eyeshadow on, darling. Who can talk when you're, you know, putting eyeshadow on? But I'll try. My friend that wrote it is here, because it just premiered, and we're going to the Senior Citizens Special. He's calling it dinner at 5:30.
4:36 Speaker 01 The opera starts at seven and is three hours long. And so we're gonna go and have dinner at the Met. And which is very exciting. It's very, you know, you feel like you're in, I don't know, another dimension when you go into the Metropolitan Opera House. But it's pretty incredible just to watch the people that show up and how they're dressed and how they act. Girl, I'm ready for you.
4:59 Amy Poehler? Oh, you look fantastic.
5:02 Speaker 01 I look hideous, but thank you. But let's talk about Catherine.
5:08 Amy Poehler? Okay, let's talk about Catherine. So today's episode, we're talking to Catherine. We're doing this fun thing where we're kind of talking behind people's backs before they come in, just to kind of hear more perspective about them and what, what you think I should ask her or, you know, what you'd be interested in hearing her talk about. And tell me how, like, how you met and your, your relationship with her.
5:34 Speaker 01 Well, we met on Agatha. At, at the table reads, basically. Catherine, because she was the leading lady, was incredibly generous and quite incredibly open and incredibly inclusive and embraced, I think, the responsibility of a leading lady. And that's, you know, that comes without fear, basically. And she was fearless and generous. And, and one of my favorite things about her is she snorts when she laughs. So you know she's having a good time.
6:10 Amy Poehler? She's a big laugher. She's a big laugher.
6:13 Speaker 01 But when you get the snort, something was really funny. And that's, you know, one of her best qualities, her snort.
6:26 Amy Poehler? She is a real mix of a, a, a very poised and serious dramatic actor and deeply goofy.
6:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, very, very funny. And doesn't take it seriously, which is great. You know what I mean?
6:41 Amy Poehler? I'm gonna ask her about this, but I want to ask you too. I mean, the response has been huge for Agatha. It's everywhere. It's viral TikToks. It's people waiting for you at the airport. Like, the, the way you get this giant...
6:58 Amy Poehler? Huge new group of people who know you and know your work. What has that been like?
7:03 Speaker 01 I don't have the kind of response that Catherine has gotten. I mean, and I know that it's so weird because because I do so many different things. People, some people know that I sing and do Broadway musicals and some people know me from Steven's universe and some people know me from Life Goes On and some people know me from Agatha, from Agatha. And the ones I've been getting more, more fan mail about Agatha. And which is great because who would think that I would end up in the Marvel Universe? Knowing nothing about it and choose to remain that way, knowing nothing about it.
7:41 Amy Poehler? Any ideas of what I could ask Catherine today? Like any questions?
7:46 Speaker 01 I'm sure if she's ever thought about directing. And would she cast me? I'm just curious to know whether she would want to direct. And of course, I need to get hired. And I think she, you know, she would be a riot behind the camera. I think, you know, they'd have to take take after take. If it was funny and she snorted, I think she'd be a great director. I think she would be a great director.
8:10 Amy Poehler? Agree. All right. Love you, Patty. Thank you so much.
8:14 Speaker 01 My pleasure.
8:14 Amy Poehler? Talk to you soon. Bye.
8:15 Speaker 01 Okay, bye.
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11:53 Amy Poehler? Everyone, this is Catherine.
11:54 Speaker 02 Hi, everyone. Thank you for having me.
11:57 Amy Poehler? Catherine, I love you so much. Thank you for being a good hang.
11:59 Speaker 02 So happy to be here. I love you.
12:01 Amy Poehler? You know, I've only done a few episodes so far. This is very new. And I got a note recently from the great Bill Simmons, who is kind of like, I guess, my boss. But he is so good at podcasting and has created an empire and has allowed me to come do it. And he said, "Lose the ringer." And he said, "Lose the laptop."
12:26 Speaker 02 Why? Oh, just so it's like more conversational?
12:30 Amy Poehler? I guess. Why do you? I just, before I do, I just want to audition it one more time. How do you feel about it?
12:35 Speaker 02 Listen, I think that that's fine for him, if he doesn't need one. But if you need one, screw it. This is your podcast.
12:43 Amy Poehler? Well, I want to say to you and Bill that I like to look things up on here. It does take me a long time.
12:54 Speaker 02 You're fact checking as it's going on. I think that's good.
12:57 Amy Poehler? Well, that, I kind of was joking that I had it to just make it seem like I was fact checking, but I'm.
13:03 Speaker 02 Have you ever used?
13:05 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
13:05 Speaker 02 Okay, okay, okay. If it's just there for evidence, maybe.
13:09 Amy Poehler? What if I was just watch? While I'm talking to you, I just have to catch up on the pit.
13:18 Speaker 02 Wait, is that, is that the medical procedural? Okay, great. With a guy who's already been on a medical procedural. Okay, great. It's supposed to be great.
13:27 Amy Poehler? It's so good.
13:28 Speaker 02 Okay, I gotta get into it.
13:29 Amy Poehler? And that's what I want to talk about.
13:30 Speaker 02 Okay, good.
13:31 Amy Poehler? Just kidding.
13:31 Speaker 02 Okay.
13:32 Amy Poehler? Well, I just-
13:32 Speaker 02 I want to talk about paradise.
13:33 Amy Poehler? Dr. Carter, AKA Noah Wiley, is now in a new show, which is nothing like ER, but I'm a huge ER fan, but The Pit is so good. So because Bill told me to get rid of the laptop, I'm gonna put it at half mast.
13:45 Speaker 02 Oh, good.
13:48 Amy Poehler? And then if I need it, I, I do feel like I want to wa- I want to watch something with you today.
13:52 Speaker 02 Yes, keep it there.
13:54 Amy Poehler? Okay.
13:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, half mast.
13:58 Amy Poehler? Okay.
13:59 Speaker 02 Don't close it.
14:00 Amy Poehler? But I, but Bill, I hear you and I appreciate the, the, because it, look, I'm, I'm-
14:05 Speaker 02 Love Bill Simmons.
14:05 Amy Poehler? Love. And I, I have to say, I'm still trying to figure out the process of this. So I so appreciate you coming in mid-process.
14:12 Speaker 02 I'm so happy. I love mid-process.
14:15 Amy Poehler? You do?
14:15 Speaker 02 I do. I do, because it's still figuring itself out. So it, I, I like it. I don't like, I, it's better, it's more interesting than a well-oiled machine.
14:25 Amy Poehler? Ooh.
14:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:26 Amy Poehler? Tell me more about that, because you're so, you do, you, I love that about you, is you love the, the, the messy middle of stuff.
14:33 Speaker 02 I do, because it's like a, there is like a little on-your-toes
14:39 Speaker 02 feeling of, of, of growth that's happening while you're in it. And that always feels like super-chargy to me. If it's like, I don't know, it's more, like, sometimes it's good and it's like, you know that you're gonna hit this, this, and this. But I, I love conversations, and I think, and I know you do too, that are like a little not-so-prescribed at the beginning.
15:02 Amy Poehler? You're so good at them. You're, you're, you're really, really good at hanging in.
15:07 Speaker 02 Ah, yeah.
15:09 Amy Poehler? It's what makes you such a good person and friend, but, and also such a good actor, is you, you can like tolerate the in-between, which few, I don't know if I can, I'm learning, I'm learning.
15:21 Speaker 02 Yes. It is uncomfortable sometimes, depending on what it, it really is. But just to sit in it and let it, like, and I'm not talking about a podcast, but like life, or like schmacking.
15:33 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
15:33 Speaker 02 It's definitely like, that, in that kind of like uncomfortableness, I think, is- Like the time that you're gonna be surprised.
15:42 Amy Poehler? Did you know that, let me see if you can guess how many times, how many episodes of Parks you did. Do you, would you know to guess?
15:49 Speaker 02 I would say between seven and 13.
15:54 Amy Poehler? 10.
15:54 Speaker 02 10. Okay.
15:59 Speaker 02 It's kind of right between. That's amazing. But it was such a huge impact on my life. Like, it's still a thing I get most recognized for.
16:09 Amy Poehler? Really?
16:09 Speaker 02 Yes. And I just remember, well, first of all, you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties at lunch every day. And anybody that walked on that, like, set just was filled with such confidence and such joy, which is, I had the greatest time on that show.
16:30 Amy Poehler? I have such, I don't have the greatest memory.
16:32 Speaker 02 That's where we kind of fell in love.
16:33 Amy Poehler? But that is, that's really, Catherine, where we, I think, actually met.
16:36 Speaker 02 Met.
16:37 Amy Poehler? My first kind of, like, real memory is in the trailer of Parks and Rec. And we used to, Catherine is talking about dance parties, and we used to do a thing where just, like, after lunch, we would play three songs.
16:49 Speaker 02 Best.
16:49 Amy Poehler? The great Autumn Butler, our makeup artist, had great taste in music, and we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs.
16:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, the best.
16:57 Amy Poehler? I think for me, a way to honestly just keep my energy up.
17:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:01 Amy Poehler? But it became a way to meet people in the trailer. And I remember two things I loved about you right away. How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that, like you.
17:13 Speaker 02 If someone's gonna break in a scene, is this professional over here?
17:17 Amy Poehler? You know, I don't, do you think you break a lot?
17:19 Speaker 02 I have to be really serious in my mind. Like, if I have, because if it starts to happen, it is tears.
17:27 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
17:27 Speaker 02 And mucus.
17:28 Amy Poehler? But you, I have seen you in bloopers, and you're hanging in.
17:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I do hang in.
17:33 Amy Poehler? You hang in.
17:34 Speaker 02 I do, yeah.
17:35 Amy Poehler? You, in fact, go in harder, I think, when people are about to.
17:39 Speaker 02 I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit. I do. I go harder.
17:44 Amy Poehler? I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at improvising. In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised.
17:57 Speaker 02 Were they really?
17:58 Amy Poehler? Well, one of the favorites, one of TikTok and memes and gifs and gifs is poncho.
18:04 Speaker 02 Poncho was.
18:05 Amy Poehler? So let's talk about what happened. For people that have never seen that, what is it? What? Tell us what that scene was.
18:10 Speaker 02 Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm the first person.
18:16 Amy Poehler? Well, for people that aren't watching, she just transformed.
18:19 Speaker 02 I just transformed.
18:20 Amy Poehler? Her eyes turned dark and she's a completely different person.
18:22 Speaker 02 Lot more hairspray. I went to their house. They have children. I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap all over me. And at some point, the kids rush by with paint, nail me with the paint. And it's some take, just to make you guys laugh, I don't even have any idea it was gonna be any. I just swung my arms open. I went poncho, poncho. And that really has become a good thing.
18:54 Amy Poehler? It's like Batman's cape.
18:58 Amy Poehler? I mean.
18:59 Speaker 02 Oh, that was the best. Like I just wanted to make you guys laugh and just having so the energy was so loose. So I like, it's funny you say they're improvising. Again, I can do it if I know who I am. And like the given circumstances and like that, I feel like I feel really free in that department, but just.
19:17 Amy Poehler? Well, you know how like we, we were on set a lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam. And I wondered too, if it's because of your, both of your training, but I would watch the way you two worked.
19:30 Amy Poehler? And you would have a moment where you'd stay really, really loose. And but just right before the scene, and I can think of a couple of scenes, the great scene where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie, no, basically, you know, you have to start.
19:46 Speaker 02 Oh.
19:47 Amy Poehler? You have to start thinking bigger, which is a huge moment in the show. I love the writing in that scene.
19:52 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, that scene.
19:53 Amy Poehler? Mike Schur and the writers, like, I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie. And they sent people in to give her these messages. And Jen Barkley is just this, like, Gen X.
20:06 Speaker 02 Yes.
20:06 Amy Poehler? Um, ballbuster.
20:08 Speaker 02 Yes.
20:08 Amy Poehler? Who, who kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment, when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly, right before the scene, you just took a moment. And I think we joked about it later because I was like, it was like watching, it was watching a real actor.
20:29 Speaker 02 Oh, God.
20:31 Amy Poehler? Just staying one more second on Parks. Yes, please. Because I do think that it was such a formative time in my life, obviously, for many reasons, and one of them was meeting you, is what I always use that us as an example of is that you never know who you have yet to meet.
20:50 Speaker 02 No, yeah.
20:51 Amy Poehler? I think, you know, when you're in your 40s.
20:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:54 Amy Poehler? There's this feeling that you've pretty much, you have your old friends, your high school friends, you have maybe a partner and they're friends, you have your kid mom friends.
21:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, college, yeah.
21:04 Amy Poehler? College, yeah, you have like this, all these different groups of friends. And you think, I think I've met everybody that's going to be my close friends.
21:10 Speaker 02 Yes, I have, I know, because sometimes those friends become just family. You know what I mean? As everybody grows and changes and like people, there's, they're so in my life, always, always, always, but we are very different people. I don't know what, you know? And you're right, there are people, like, I think even, I've been in a lot of projects where you get like intimate really fast and everybody says goodbye. But then there are certain people where you, I didn't anticipate this. Like I did, that was the, one of the pleasures for me too, is like, I did not anticipate that you would want to continue to be my friend.
21:49 Amy Poehler? What?
21:50 Speaker 02 After we did it. And then the fact that it's gotten like deeper and deeper. And like now, I don't know how to do it. I mean, like, I am so grateful for you in my life. We've like.
22:00 Amy Poehler? We've been in the trenches.
22:01 Speaker 02 We've been in the trenches.
22:03 Amy Poehler? We have.
22:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:04 Amy Poehler? We have like, we've been through a lot of tough times together. We've been very honest with each other.
22:10 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:10 Amy Poehler? We've like, I think we've really like taken great pains to see each other.
22:16 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. Like we're, make it a priority.
22:20 Amy Poehler? And I mean, I know how I feel about how important that is for me, but what, but how, what, how are female friendships important to you? What do they do for you?
22:28 Speaker 02 I think that the real female friends that I have, the deep ones are fewer than I thought I would have. Like the ones that are really, you know, have your back through anything. And there's a difference, like these, it's so important to have women in your life that aren't family to grow old with in a way that it's, like you said, feels very honest, but, and also hilarious, but also doesn't feel like we have to keep up any, anything together, like keep up any sort of like front. It just feels like, and also very affirming, like to walk into these next chapters together
23:11 Speaker 02 just feels like it's not as terrifying.
23:14 Amy Poehler? Yes. The witch's road.
23:16 Speaker 02 The witch's road.
23:18 Amy Poehler? The coven.
23:20 Speaker 02 Yes. Coven on coven. Yes.
23:22 Amy Poehler? Yes. That's why, I mean, I, that is why when I watched that show, when I watched Agatha all along, um, uh, that was so moving. You just to get, basically you must hold hands with someone to go into the next step. And let's be honest, our female friendships and relationships are gonna, you know, with the exception, maybe our sibling relationships will probably last the longest.
23:44 Speaker 02 I know, they will. And I think with my dear, dearest women friends, of which there are very few, that, that is such a source of comfort, just to be heard by another woman.
23:56 Amy Poehler? Yes.
23:56 Speaker 02 Without judgment, without like anything, but just.
24:01 Speaker 02 Um, love.
24:03 Amy Poehler? I know, I feel you. Uh, speaking of other women, um.
24:07 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:07 Amy Poehler? So we do this thing, uh, where we ask people before we have a guest to, um, chat about the guest. So like, I kind of like wanted.
24:16 Speaker 02 I want to like.
24:17 Amy Poehler? I love it. And we got Patti LuPone.
24:20 Speaker 02 No, you did not. Oh my God. I was so excited. The Wolf. Patti, the Wolf.
24:30 Amy Poehler? The Wolf.
24:31 Speaker 02 LuPone.
24:32 Amy Poehler? Oh, of course, the Wolf, of course.
24:36 Speaker 02 Oh my God. I'm, this is gonna be the best.
24:39 Amy Poehler? Well, first of all.
24:41 Speaker 02 What if it was like, eh eh?
24:45 Speaker 02 Well, she can't sing, but.
24:47 Amy Poehler? Yeah, not talented. Um, no, she, she's so great.
24:51 Speaker 02 Isn't she? I know.
24:53 Amy Poehler? Uh, talk about, you know.
24:55 Speaker 02 I know.
24:55 Amy Poehler? A new friend that I wanna, I mean, I feel like I keep, I have to stop telling her, or I have to stop asking her if we're friends. I just have to start believing that we are, but, um, anyway.
25:05 Speaker 02 Oh, doll.
25:06 Amy Poehler? Call everyone doll.
25:07 Speaker 02 You're right to have someone that is like in a different stage of our lives.
25:12 Amy Poehler? Yes.
25:13 Speaker 02 That you can, that is so real.
25:15 Amy Poehler? Very.
25:16 Speaker 02 Very important.
25:17 Amy Poehler? I don't know about you, but I get very comfortable around.
25:20 Speaker 02 Yes.
25:21 Amy Poehler? Older women who are very bossy.
25:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:24 Amy Poehler? Um, because I get very relaxed.
25:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, we're in good hands.
25:29 Amy Poehler? We're in good hands and the, the few times that I've hung out with Patty, like she's like, we're going for a walk and she tells me what to buy and, and it's just.
25:40 Amy Poehler? Okay, so tell me about, about how you, was, was Agatha the first time you met her?
25:45 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
25:46 Amy Poehler? Okay.
25:46 Speaker 02 Um, and I remember when they said it was Patti LuPone, I was like, no. And then we, I met her at the first table read and she just came in with so many questions. Which of course, like she knew nothing about Marvel. I barely know anything about Marvel. So she was like, okay. And it was just all of these very detailed questions, but then she just forgot and it didn't matter. Like she was, she'll stay, she'll still be like, I don't know anything about Marvel.
26:12 Amy Poehler? She did. She, she told us that.
26:13 Speaker 02 She did.
26:14 Amy Poehler? She said, well, I don't know anything about, which I love. I mean, and also. And she said, you guys met at the table, Reed.
26:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:22 Amy Poehler? And Agatha was a really big circus to lead.
26:25 Speaker 02 Oh, yes.
26:26 Amy Poehler? And you had to do a lot of big stuff on there.
26:31 Speaker 02 A lot of swinging.
26:32 Amy Poehler? Oh, my gosh, so much, you know, if one is to believe that acting is a little embarrassing.
26:38 Speaker 02 Oh, right.
26:39 Amy Poehler? You had to do so much stuff, birthing scenes and crazy stuff.
26:45 Speaker 02 And holding hands and singing.
26:47 Amy Poehler? Yes, so much incredible stuff.
26:50 Speaker 02 But like walking in the razor's edge, because we knew if it went one way or the other, it could be like, oh, wow.
26:55 Amy Poehler? And America voted, and it worked. America voted. TikTok voted. TikTok is my government.
27:01 Speaker 02 Okay, I know. I gotta get on TikTok.
27:05 Amy Poehler? It's, I think it's wrapping up.
27:07 Speaker 02 Oh, I know. It's my perfect timing, as usual. Still my AOL.
27:11 Amy Poehler? That's like me in podcasts. I'm like, let me get in there. And everyone's like, now? I'm like, yep, right before the door closes. But just for a second, what was it like to be on such a big show, making, having to make really big choices with all these incredibly big personalities and people? It was just, it must have been something.
27:29 Speaker 02 We were all, there was no trailers to go back to, really, because we were kind of far away always. So we would set up like a little coven of our chairs in a circle. So like all of our crew chairs would be in a circle. And you could just hear us cackling like the whole, like, I mean, we just laughed. And Patty had a boombox and she would get up and like dance or start singing. And we would all be like, it's coming out of her mouth right now.
27:52 Amy Poehler? So Patty wanted me to ask you two questions. Well, first, she said she loves your snort, and we already got it. We already got it once.
28:00 Speaker 02 I thought like, oh, it's not as cute anymore, but it still comes out.
28:03 Amy Poehler? I mean, you're talking to a person that laughs like a, I've been described as a raven, when a raven, when someone runs over a raven's foot. That's how somebody described my laugh one time. So, I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.
28:18 Speaker 02 It's the greatest laugh ever.
28:20 Amy Poehler? It's just, I have a very witchy laugh, too.
28:22 Speaker 02 You have a very witchy laugh and a very, you do. And it's a cackle and a very devious laugh sometimes.
28:32 Speaker 02 It's a little cackling in the mouth. I just love it so much because it hits like a little devious. And then huge cackles.
28:42 Amy Poehler? And you have a great laugh too. Like you laugh with your whole body.
28:45 Speaker 02 I do.
28:46 Amy Poehler? You like.
28:47 Speaker 02 I do. There she goes. But I really do. I do. I love a good laugh.
28:51 Amy Poehler? God, me too. Have you always been that way? Was that, where did, where, like, have you always been that kind of person that loved a good laugh?
28:58 Speaker 02 In high school, it started for sure. And then I was like, you know, I went to an all-girls Catholic school. So we had like a, I mean, that group was constantly making fun of the nuns. And so I was just like crying all the time, just crying all the time, just like, ah, just floating maxi pads in the like the saint, in like Mary's pond. Like there's like a statue of Mary. We're just like, and the nuns would be like, okay, so there are maxi pads floating in the, it was like always shit like that.
29:30 Amy Poehler? Just like fun church giggle stuff.
29:32 Speaker 02 Stupid. Like you'd open up a locker and there'd be like a huge dick that would pop out on a spring.
29:38 Amy Poehler? This proves my theory that Catholic school girls were A, so bad.
29:44 Speaker 02 They were so bad. Well, because everything was, you know, uniforms and there was like church every week and it all felt like, I don't know if I believe in any of this.
29:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And then B, they were just like really ready to go.
29:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, ready to go. Oh, I was like, let's go, let's go. And there were, I was like, any takers? Any takers? And there was not takers.
30:04 Amy Poehler? On the street like, hey.
30:05 Speaker 02 Horny. So horny. And I was like, okay. I was like, is it my overplucked eyebrows?
30:14 Speaker 02 What's, what's happening? Is it my Catholic school uniform that my mom thought I was gonna gain maybe, or like seven dress sizes? But I was literally like, kids would go down and see my skirt and just pull it off me. Like in school. So we had to wear boxers.
30:29 Amy Poehler? Oh yeah, boxers were a big deal. That, wait, it was just an all-girls school?
30:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:33 Amy Poehler? And they were pantsing you?
30:34 Speaker 02 Pantsing me.
30:36 Amy Poehler? Skirting, they were skirting you.
30:37 Speaker 02 In, in, I did go to Coed Catholic elementary school and we would have something called Friday Flip-Up Day. So we knew to wear boxers because on Friday, all the guys ran around and flipped up your skirt.
30:49 Amy Poehler? Oh my God.
30:51 Speaker 02 And Thursday Throw-Up Day, Wednesday Wedding Day, I don't know what Tuesday or Monday was.
30:56 Amy Poehler? And they would just flip up your skirt. And back then we were like. The price of being a girl.
31:00 Speaker 02 It is. We were like, oh, we better get prepared.
31:03 Amy Poehler? We were like, maybe someone will flip up my skirt today.
31:06 Speaker 02 So fucked up. So fucked up.
31:09 Amy Poehler? So fucked up. And, and the teachers were like, if you guys are doing the flip up, keep it outside of class.
31:15 Speaker 02 I don't want to know about it. And then I remember some guy, some kid, I was in sixth grade, called me gorilla legs because I haven't shaved, I hadn't shaved my legs yet. And I was like horrified by that. So I went home and I tried to shave and it was like a cheese grater. It was like, I could see a curl of my skin before it started bleeding. And I was like, what's, oh, I still have scars.
31:35 Amy Poehler? Oh, no.
31:36 Speaker 02 I didn't, I didn't know how to do it. I went rogue with my dad's shaver in the tub.
31:41 Amy Poehler? Oh, no. Because of that stupid boy.
31:44 Speaker 02 It was that stupid boy.
31:45 Amy Poehler? I know. I had a stupid boy tell me one time that I look like a frog, that my face looked like a frog. And I just, I still think about it. I mean, I still remember it. I just remember being like, well, yeah. But you just get that thing where you're like, well, I guess I'll live the life of a frog, man. Like, you just immediately are like, well, if one boy thinks it, that, then it shall be so.
32:05 Speaker 02 Then it shall be so.
32:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah. I guess, well, I'll be, they'll just flip up my skirt and I'll wear my boxers and shave my legs in the bathtub and wear, have a face like a frog.
32:15 Speaker 02 I mean, it's horrible. It's horrible. The shit I got for my nose my whole life.
32:20 Amy Poehler? Really? For the size of your nose?
32:22 Speaker 02 Yes. And that I had such a, um, such a like thing about it that I was like, when I'm 18, I'm getting a nose job. And now I'm so glad that I did it.
32:31 Amy Poehler? No.
32:32 Speaker 02 Yeah. And now I love my nose.
32:34 Amy Poehler? I just think people should know that you have never gotten any plastic surgery, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I just.
32:39 Speaker 02 But I think also, we, I feel that way with you, like.
32:43 Amy Poehler? We're in a treacherous time.
32:44 Speaker 02 This is a treacherous moment where you're like, have to leave behind all that currency that I really didn't, I wasn't, listen, I wasn't like. That wasn't my currency in this business was never like,
32:57 Amy Poehler? Same.
32:57 Speaker 02 Which I think is helpful going forward because it's not, but yeah, I'm like,
33:03 Amy Poehler? But now you've gotten into mother phase, you're Mother Han.
33:06 Speaker 02 Now I'm Mother Han because honestly, this is my Instagram thing that I haven't used in the first five. I kind of petered out on the dumbest one. I just haven't done it again. I put it on my computer and yeah, I haven't posted it. Literally it's the dumbest last one. I don't even know what it is, but it was just petered out. And we tried, my daughter tried to find a name for me or like whatever handle. Is that what it's called?
33:32 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I think so.
33:33 Speaker 02 And we couldn't find anything with my name. And then we saw Mother Han lowercase and I was like, oh, that's funny. And she was like, you know, the other connotations though. And I was like, yeah, fine. I'll be cute. But then it has really a very, it does have a very specific following, which I love.
33:54 Amy Poehler? That's what I'm saying is there's this amazing moment that's happening for you in general where, you know, people that have loved your work now for 20 years are seeing you get this kind of next level of recognition and you know, all that comes with like the Marvel machine.
34:09 Speaker 02 Yes.
34:10 Amy Poehler? And there is this also celebration at the same time, led primarily by gay men, but not just gay men.
34:18 Speaker 02 And young gay women.
34:19 Amy Poehler? Young gay women who love the lesbian kiss that you had on Agatha with her beautiful Aubrey Plaza.
34:24 Speaker 02 Yes.
34:25 Amy Poehler? Like that are deciding to just be like, mother.
34:30 Speaker 02 I know.
34:31 Amy Poehler? And that feels like you're being anointed.
34:32 Speaker 02 Which I'm like, it's Anne Bancroft in The Graduate. Like, that's what it feels like. There's like a cougar-y vibe.
34:39 Amy Poehler? Yes.
34:39 Speaker 02 Instead, but I also think that there's kind of like a, because I don't, I mean, that's not who I am, but I guess it also means like,
34:48 Speaker 02 I don't know. What is, what do you think it means?
34:49 Amy Poehler? I think it's like a way, yes.
34:52 Speaker 02 Like a guide?
34:53 Amy Poehler? It's like a way to compliment someone's
34:58 Amy Poehler? wisdom and fortitude without making them, while still making them feel sexy.
35:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:03 Amy Poehler? There's something that feels sexy about it because it's very dom. It's very like, she will crush you. Like it's a little bit of like mother. Right.
35:15 Amy Poehler? Maybe you should have done Instagram, you should have been, you should have tried to spell that out. But, but also there's a reverence to it, like a respect. There's like, there's like a loving respect. I, again, someone else could probably break down the etymology and what it really means. And we all know where it comes back, goes back to like the houses and you know, like all the queer culture back.
35:35 Speaker 02 Yes.
35:36 Amy Poehler? Who are creating their own community and family.
35:38 Speaker 02 I love it. It moves me so much.
35:41 Amy Poehler? Me too. And it's, and it's, it's just, there's some, something that's happening right now. I'm noticing in real time where women our age in our 50s in our business used to kind of just be on the way out. For the most part, there were few, but a lot of them were not really regarded by young people as being vital.
36:01 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:02 Amy Poehler? Producers of things.
36:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:04 Amy Poehler? And that is changing.
36:05 Speaker 02 It is changing.
36:06 Amy Poehler? I never liked MILF.
36:08 Speaker 02 I hated MILF.
36:10 Amy Poehler? Me too. Why do we hate it?
36:12 Speaker 02 Well, because it's a porn term, probably by a lot of, by a lot of young men that have a fetish for fucking older women.
36:21 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I never.
36:22 Speaker 02 Mothers.
36:22 Amy Poehler? Yeah. And also I didn't like it because it was like, oh, you'll still fuck them?
36:26 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:27 Amy Poehler? Uh, let me check.
36:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:29 Amy Poehler? They don't want to fuck you.
36:32 Amy Poehler? I just checked.
36:33 Speaker 02 Gut check.
36:34 Amy Poehler? Gut check. Butt check and gut check.
36:36 Speaker 02 Butt check. It's not happening for you too.
36:38 Amy Poehler? It's like, oh, great.
36:40 Speaker 02 I know. It was like, well, I've had a couple MILFs and it's like, oh God.
36:45 Amy Poehler? Maybe we don't like it too because it sounds like milk.
36:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, maybe, maybe because, yeah, but it just feels like it's from the dude's point of view in like a gross porny way.
36:54 Amy Poehler? Yeah. Mother feels a little bit more.
36:56 Speaker 02 You respect it.
36:57 Amy Poehler? And it feels more gay adjacent, queer adjacent. So it feels a little.
37:03 Speaker 02 Yeah. Which I love so much. I love it so much. I love the very young queer women that are
37:12 Speaker 02 felt really. Like, loved Agatha all along. Like, that was such a huge part of our audience that was very, very moving.
37:20 Amy Poehler? I mean, you were the first gay Marvel kiss, right?
37:25 Speaker 02 I-
37:25 Amy Poehler? Queer Marvel kiss. I don't know.
37:27 Speaker 02 I think so.
37:28 Amy Poehler? I have a piece of paper. Let me see.
37:31 Amy Poehler? Yep.
37:31 Speaker 02 It's not on the- yeah. Oh.
37:33 Amy Poehler? Yes.
37:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:34 Amy Poehler? The first Marvel lesbian kiss, according to this paper.
37:38 Speaker 02 That just flew in.
37:39 Amy Poehler? Hold on. It just floated down.
37:41 Speaker 02 From the sky.
37:42 Amy Poehler? It's coming from the sky. Here we go.
37:44 Speaker 02 But yeah, that is pretty cool.
37:46 Amy Poehler? Yeah, that's cool.
37:46 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's cool.
37:47 Amy Poehler? That's cool.
37:48 Speaker 02 And with Plaza. So it just could not be cooler.
37:50 Amy Poehler? I know, I know. Our beautiful baby Plaza.
37:54 Amy Poehler? What's going- and I'm aware of- as you're- as a therapist, I'm aware of the time. It's 11:48.
38:00 Speaker 02 I am so fine with going.
38:03 Amy Poehler? Okay, okay. Just letting you know, because I'm gonna-
38:04 Speaker 02 It's over. I never want this to end.
38:06 Amy Poehler? You have a long press day. And so I know you have to do a lot of talking. But- and you have to eat wings.
38:10 Speaker 02 I don't want to eat-
38:11 Amy Poehler? You have to eat hot wings. I'm so sorry I don't have wings.
38:13 Speaker 02 I know, I should be prepping before my diarrhea kicks in, even thinking about it.
38:17 Amy Poehler? I have been asked to do that wings thing and-
38:19 Speaker 02 You have it and you're like, no.
38:21 Amy Poehler? I absolutely not.
38:22 Speaker 02 I could say hate milk. So I don't know how I'm gonna do it.
38:25 Amy Poehler? This is gonna be a disaster for you.
38:26 Speaker 02 No, it's gonna be. Someone said peanut butter on toast beforehand. Line your stomach.
38:30 Amy Poehler? The things we go through for press.
38:32 Speaker 02 I never know.
38:35 Amy Poehler? What do we have to do? We have to line our stomach?
38:39 Amy Poehler? How did this- how did this happen? How are we now doing- eating spicy things?
38:44 Speaker 02 This- and spicier and spicier while being asked really interesting-
38:49 Amy Poehler? Really interesting questions.
38:50 Speaker 02 Kind of personal questions.
38:51 Amy Poehler? Really great questions. But, um, but the way in which we're like, I guess-
38:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:56 Amy Poehler? I guess for this show, I gotta have diarrhea for four days.
38:59 Speaker 02 For four days? Ring a fire. But I also- there's something about it that I was like, yes. Because it just felt so, um, so unique that it just- I don't know. It's gonna be hilarious.
39:12 Amy Poehler? This is a really good example of what we were talking about earlier. Like, you're like, this is gonna be fun. I'm into it. You're into the- the lack of control.
39:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:21 Amy Poehler? And man-
39:22 Speaker 02 Like, I'm like, am I gonna vomit? Am I gonna? I don't know. We actually do- that is actually Friday. But I have a lot- but other stuff to- but I am-
39:31 Amy Poehler? Not today.
39:32 Speaker 02 So I have a couple of days to prep my stomach.
39:33 Amy Poehler? It's like a colonoscopy.
39:35 Speaker 02 I it is.
39:36 Amy Poehler? You're gonna have to start eating light.
39:37 Speaker 02 But like in reverse, because I think I gotta line it as thick as possible. So there is no way, like my throat down to my colon has to just be lined.
39:47 Amy Poehler? With bread.
39:48 Speaker 02 Yogurt, peanut butter, and just bread shoved in there.
39:53 Amy Poehler? Show business, baby.
39:54 Speaker 02 Show business.
39:55 Amy Poehler? That's what, that's why we got into show business, to do stuff like that, to just eat weird hot stuff.
40:01 Speaker 02 On camera.
40:02 Amy Poehler? For free.
40:02 Speaker 02 For free.
40:04 Amy Poehler? Um, but we were talking a little bit about the like way in which you're getting received, like when you're out in public, that's a little overwhelming sometimes because of the fandom of it all. Like there's, you're in a machine now that's bigger than maybe some other ones. And we were kind of talking about that feeling of like having to take on other people's energy. And how do you balance the introversion and extroversion part of what we do?
40:27 Speaker 02 Well.
40:48 Amy Poehler? Okay.
40:49 Speaker 02 Oh, God.
40:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah, that's a good answer.
40:52 Speaker 02 You know, we were talking about hot ones for a while.
40:55 Amy Poehler? You got all.
40:56 Speaker 02 I need a Pepsi DC. Um, okay, fans. No, it's, you know, you're, I mean, Marvel is a totally different machine. And I am so rarely recognized in my life, like, you know, I just walk out like, I don't think about it. So I'm like, you know, I had one meal with Carrie Kenny Silver, who I love so much. And she, someone came up to our table and was like, sorry, I have to tell you, I love you. And I think it's so hilarious you go out of the house looking like this.
41:30 Speaker 02 I was like, oh, thank you.
41:35 Amy Poehler? My thing is when people go, can I tell you who you look like? And I'm always like, please don't.
41:40 Speaker 02 No.
41:41 Amy Poehler? It is never.
41:42 Speaker 02 It's never gonna be great.
41:43 Amy Poehler? It's never gonna be great unless it's Scar Joe or something like it's never. And it's also so, it's always someone who is a hard 30 years older than who I am, which is fine, but okay. So let's talk about Philly Justice before we talk about the studio and then we'll be done.
42:00 Speaker 02 Actually, one of the most, the thing I'm almost the most proud of.
42:03 Amy Poehler? Okay. Can you explain to people what we're talking about when we say Philly Justice?
42:06 Speaker 02 Okay, when we were, there was a bunch of the Parks and Rec actors. It was Paul, Rudd, you, Rashida, Adam.
42:17 Speaker 02 And is that it?
42:18 Amy Poehler? Yep. Me, we, the, the original picture that Philly Justice was born out of was me, you, Rashida, Adam, and Rudd.
42:26 Speaker 02 And it was, we had like business-y outfits on. I think we were going to court or something or like, so all of us had like very business-y. And I don't know whose idea was it, but we took a, it was, whose idea was it? But we were all in like, kind of staggered stares and what looked like the front of like a very, you know, a courthouse.
42:49 Amy Poehler? We, we pretended we were on a fake TV show in the nineties called Philly Justice. Or the early 2000s.
42:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
42:55 Amy Poehler? All crossed our arms.
42:56 Speaker 02 Yes.
42:57 Amy Poehler? Then that became a text chain where we started pretending that we were, we were just pretending we had been texting each other.
43:05 Speaker 02 Like as the actors from it, is the pilot gonna be picked up? It's like we were gonna do, like, we were all very excited. It was like a David Kelly-esque show. So there was like some cachet. It wasn't like a shitty show.
43:17 Amy Poehler? Right. Catherine is playing like a lawyer, question mark?
43:20 Speaker 02 Question mark.
43:21 Amy Poehler? We don't know. And who has, has a very tempestuous relationship with Angie Martinez, played by Rashida Jones.
43:29 Speaker 02 Yes.
43:29 Amy Poehler? And.
43:30 Speaker 02 We're not sure.
43:31 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
43:31 Speaker 02 Lot of past.
43:32 Amy Poehler? Lot, I mean, I think you guys are lovers.
43:39 Speaker 02 Amy, please excuse her. She knows not what she's doing.
43:44 Amy Poehler? Like, um, Robert Durst when he's guilty.
43:50 Amy Poehler? Sorry. Every time I bring up being, uh, your lesbian tendencies, you start burping and we're like,
43:59 Amy Poehler? but, uh, I mean, I remember thinking, I can't believe how lucky I am that I'm working with people who wanna also do this dumb thing.
44:08 Speaker 02 Yes.
44:09 Amy Poehler? Like, fun dumb things to me are a love language. That's a way of like, it's like proves like safety, I guess, that if you're relaxed enough to do fun dumb things and you're in the right place.
44:21 Speaker 02 Yeah. And the more, the older and older I get, I feel like, just want that.
44:27 Amy Poehler? Yeah, like, nothing is that important.
44:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, right.
44:29 Amy Poehler? Um, great transition into your new show.
44:33 Speaker 02 And the studio.
44:34 Amy Poehler? But it is, the studio is fun dumb.
44:36 Speaker 02 It is fun.
44:37 Amy Poehler? And you mentioned Catherine O'Hara. Talk to us about the show and the cast.
44:41 Speaker 02 I mean, Catherine O'Hara, another goddess that I couldn't believe. We've only have a couple of scenes in it, but I have gotten to know her, like, through the press thing and she is, like we were saying, like, what I wanna, like, that's how I wanna grow up.
44:52 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
44:52 Speaker 02 Even though she's, you know, basically my aunt, but she, um, is, I mean, on camera and not off camera, like, just such a hu- a good egg. And it's Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg, Seth stars in it, and, um, they both wrote all the episodes and directed all the episodes with like one shot. They're all like oners or some invisible seams.
45:15 Amy Poehler? Wow.
45:15 Speaker 02 I know, but it's really incredible because we rehearsed each scene like a play. Like, we had to rehearse it gazillion times with the camera. And then know when the camera's gonna be on you and know like when to get out of the way for the camera, while still like try to keep eye contact. It was a, it was like a, the challenges were so fun and juicy. And, and also you knew that if you fucked up one line in it, you'd have to go back to the beginning. So like, the tension of everybody really added to the tension of this fictional studio, Continental Studios, that Seth Rogen just became the head of. And trying to save it, like, it can't keep it from the streamers and also the, like, balance between art and, um,
46:01 Speaker 02 Money, like block, but he's a lover of film that just wants to make like, you know, Foxcatcher all the time. And they're like, you can't make it all the time. You have to make a Kool-Aid movie, you know? So it's like the tension between and it's Ike Barinholtz is in it, who's fricking hilarious. He's so good.
46:21 Amy Poehler? The best.
46:21 Speaker 02 Chase, We Wonders, Peach, hilarious. And Bryan Cranston has like, recording as the, um, the money guy on top of the studio. And, uh,
46:33 Amy Poehler? Who do you play?
46:33 Speaker 02 I play, um, the market, the head of marketing.
46:38 Amy Poehler? Your look is incredible.
46:40 Speaker 02 It is incredible. And I feel like there's a lot of humans in Hollywood that just dress label to label.
46:48 Amy Poehler? So she's just totally decked out.
46:50 Speaker 02 Got a girl at Saks. Who will bring the shit to the office and she tries it on at lunch, has a tab, running, running tab at Saks.
46:58 Amy Poehler? Nice.
46:59 Speaker 02 And also probably, um, you know, what is it? That Dover Street Market, a lot of like, street brands.
47:07 Amy Poehler? She has big nails. I remember that, right?
47:09 Speaker 02 Long, long nails.
47:10 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
47:10 Speaker 02 And no personal life. So it's all filling like a deep, empty hole.
47:16 Amy Poehler? Yes.
47:17 Speaker 02 That she gets, um, that she just lives at her job.
47:21 Amy Poehler? And is it a weekly thing or can we?
47:22 Speaker 02 It's weekly.
47:23 Amy Poehler? Okay, great. I have to say overall, I'm enjoying a more weekly thing because I feel like we binged too hard.
47:29 Speaker 02 I do too. Yeah. And it gives me a headache and it also makes me feel like a little bit sick.
47:34 Amy Poehler? The binging is too much.
47:35 Speaker 02 It's too much. It's too much. And you lose the,
47:39 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
47:40 Speaker 02 Swallowed at that time. I was like, three, I can't do three on your podcast. Yes. What is wrong with me?
47:47 Amy Poehler? The rule of threes.
47:48 Speaker 02 It's the rule of threes.
47:49 Amy Poehler? You have to do one more burp for comedy.
47:52 Speaker 02 Maybe that was the third and it was just. I swallowed it. And now it's just a hot, acidic mess.
47:58 Amy Poehler? There are people I know that listen to these things and they have a hard time like with whatever it's called. What's the word when you don't like mouth sounds?
48:06 Speaker 02 Oh.
48:07 Amy Poehler? Misophonia.
48:08 Speaker 02 Misophonia.
48:09 Amy Poehler? Where they don't like the milky mouth sounds of people, which I understand.
48:13 Speaker 02 I understand it.
48:14 Amy Poehler? I understand it.
48:15 Speaker 02 The worst is when you're talking to someone and there's little white cream on the creases of their mouth. And then when they talk, you can hear like, and you just want to be like, slide them a glass of water.
48:24 Amy Poehler? You want to slide them. And I feel like this is the end of our interview because where are we back? We're back to water.
48:29 Speaker 02 We're back to water!
48:30 Amy Poehler? I'm for it.
48:31 Speaker 02 How badly do you have to pee?
48:33 Amy Poehler? Not at all. I've been peeing this whole time.
48:35 Speaker 02 Oh, right. Next time, I'm gonna wear, just, I don't even know how it works. If there's an adult diaper, just a bucket.
48:41 Amy Poehler? No, you just pee. The thing, people don't tell you about podcasting.
48:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:44 Amy Poehler? Which I learned when I first started.
48:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:46 Amy Poehler? You pee anytime. You just pee in your seat. All of the men you're watching, they're constantly peeing. Just underneath their table.
48:54 Speaker 02 Gross. There's a stadium, buddy.
48:55 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
48:56 Speaker 02 Or have you ever seen the women's version of that?
48:58 Amy Poehler? I haven't.
48:59 Speaker 02 Ah!
49:00 Amy Poehler? The women's version.
49:02 Speaker 02 When did you get it?
49:02 Amy Poehler? My friend gave it to me.
49:03 Speaker 02 It's like a funnel because we could be like, meh!
49:05 Amy Poehler? So.
49:06 Speaker 02 It isn't like a straight shot.
49:08 Amy Poehler? Okay, keep it in my car.
49:09 Speaker 02 Okay. I thought you were like, keep it in my pants.
49:11 Amy Poehler? I keep it, I keep it in my bed. No, it's a, it's a funnel that you, I would suggest getting it. You're supposed to use it for camping.
49:19 Speaker 02 I want to.
49:19 Amy Poehler? But I have it for my car. Because sometimes you're in traffic and it's, and it's, oh no. Like what?
49:24 Speaker 02 Can you get that going while you're driving a car?
49:27 Amy Poehler? Well, I have never, I've, to be fair, I've never actually used it.
49:30 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
49:31 Amy Poehler? But this, knowing it's there.
49:33 Speaker 02 I know. That you have a backup. Maybe also sometimes if there's a questionable gas station restroom.
49:38 Amy Poehler? I would rather cop a squat. I would rather pull over and pee.
49:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, I've done that before.
49:42 Amy Poehler? Than go to a gas, a gas station.
49:44 Speaker 02 I've done that definitely in places that match, like the national parks where you like open the small one. It's just a hole.
49:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
49:51 Speaker 02 I just think, I don't want to look at it.
49:53 Amy Poehler? I've just pulled over and opened up my car door and just peed.
49:58 Speaker 02 I think we all have.
50:00 Amy Poehler? I mean, what are you gonna do?
50:01 Speaker 02 What are you gonna do?
50:02 Amy Poehler? Seriously.
50:03 Speaker 02 No, no one wants a UTI.
50:04 Amy Poehler? And you can't be like a man and pee in a bottle like a, like an animal.
50:08 Speaker 02 Have you ever been, there's some streets in New York City, I know this is getting long, but there's some streets in New York that are like, like the arteries for getting off the bridges or whatever, that if you walk down, it's like filled Coke bottles with urine.
50:22 Amy Poehler? Men are so fucking disgusting.
50:24 Speaker 02 But I have to tell you, okay, last thing.
50:25 Amy Poehler? I'm so sorry.
50:26 Speaker 02 Sometimes I'm like, women, lift up the frickin' seat.
50:29 Amy Poehler? A hundred percent.
50:30 Speaker 02 I'm like, I've sat so many times on other women's urine.
50:33 Amy Poehler? Women, you cannot pee on the seat to protect your own germs.
50:38 Speaker 02 I know.
50:39 Amy Poehler? Like, you can't not sit on a toilet seat so that I have to sit near pee.
50:44 Speaker 02 Yes. Lift it up. It's disgusting.
50:47 Amy Poehler? Also, if you're really that weird about it.
50:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
50:50 Amy Poehler? Put toilet paper on the seat.
50:52 Speaker 02 They have things for you.
50:54 Amy Poehler? They have things. Don't squat on the seat, pee on it, and then leave.
50:58 Speaker 02 And then leave.
50:59 Amy Poehler? You know what? Women are disgusting too.
51:01 Speaker 02 Or wipe it off with a, and you're like, I know you just tried to wipe it off, but it's still there, bitch.
51:07 Amy Poehler? You're talking to a gal who left signs in a, in a, when, I think it must've been when I was at SNL. I was like, who is peeing on this seat?
51:16 Speaker 02 Oh, yes.
51:17 Amy Poehler? I was like, hey, newsflash. This is a disaster for those that follow.
51:22 Speaker 02 A restroom for a lot of women.
51:23 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
51:24 Speaker 02 Well, last thing, growing up in Cleveland, we had faulty, um, what's it called? You know, when you flush a toilet.
51:32 Amy Poehler? Oh, plumbing?
51:33 Speaker 02 Plumbing.
51:37 Speaker 02 Ah, age. But my dad had a sign above the toilet that said, poop flush, wipe flush. Because if you put the poop and the, and the toilet paper in there, it would overflow immediately.
51:49 Amy Poehler? Wipe flush.
51:50 Speaker 02 Poop flush, wipe flush. I'm gonna leave you with that. Anywho.
51:54 Amy Poehler? But I think these are, I think these are important things to say.
51:56 Speaker 02 They are, they are.
51:57 Amy Poehler? They are.
51:57 Speaker 02 We don't talk about it, but these are, but also just women, lastly, lift up the seat.
52:02 Amy Poehler? Just to clarify.
52:03 Speaker 02 Gives us a bad name.
52:04 Amy Poehler? You don't have to, you don't have to lift, yeah, don't, just sit on the seat.
52:08 Speaker 02 Sit on it. Or if you don't feel like sitting on it, lift it.
52:11 Amy Poehler? Sit on the seats.
52:13 Speaker 02 Sit on the seat.
52:14 Amy Poehler? What, like, where are we?
52:15 Speaker 02 That's why they, just where are we? You're so lucky to have a seat. There's a lot of people that just have to squat.
52:23 Amy Poehler? If someone ran for like Congress and their whole thing was sit on the seat, they'd win. They'd win. They'd win.
52:29 Speaker 02 They would win.
52:30 Amy Poehler? Sit on the seat.
52:31 Speaker 02 I'm gonna start making bumper stickers.
52:32 Amy Poehler? Okay, I'm asking, I'm asking a bunch of people, because you love to laugh, you have a great laugh. I'm asking a bunch of people, what are they doing right now to make themselves laugh? Like, what is the thing you're watching or doing or listening to? What cracks you up?
52:47 Speaker 02 Um, my dog really cracks me up. He's such a little weenus. Everything, his name is Banjo, and he's such an idiot. He has a, he's such a mutt, and he has this tail that's always so high, so he's got a really aggressive asshole. And everything he does is so stupid that he makes me laugh so hard. He's a dingo. Like, everything he does is j-.
53:12 Amy Poehler? What has he done?
53:13 Speaker 02 He'll get outside and he'll do laps, like, back and forth as fast as he can from one side of the lawn to the other. Like, he won't stop. And he, he'll just have, he has this corn cob that he can chew, has a sound in it, and he'll just look at you and be like, "Ach, ach." Like, and you hear the horn going on for so long.
53:30 Amy Poehler? And so his anxiety is funny?
53:32 Speaker 02 He has had a cone on for a third of his life. Because he constantly is eating something, or he'll look at you like, "Ah," there's this blood gushing out of his back leg, and I'm like, "Banjo!" He'll, he licked the skin off of his, his own little paw, because he just was stressed out. And then he keeps licking it, so he's had to, yeah, so.
53:54 Amy Poehler? Who would play Banjo in a movie if he was a human?
53:57 Speaker 02 Oh. It would be. It would be, he's got a lot of, um, white male privilege. He is so blonde. It's not Patrick Schwarzenegger, because he's really great, but he has a vibe.
54:08 Amy Poehler? It's a young Leo, is really what it is.
54:10 Speaker 02 It's a young Leo.
54:11 Amy Poehler? It's a young Leo. It's like, uh,
54:13 Speaker 02 Yes.
54:14 Amy Poehler? Uh, maybe it's the kid from, um, Baby Girl. What's his name?
54:18 Speaker 02 Yes.
54:19 Amy Poehler? Right? His, uh,
54:20 Speaker 02 I don't know his name.
54:21 Amy Poehler? Fuck, we'll never know. We have a laptop, we can't figure it out. Harris Dickinson.
54:26 Speaker 02 Harris Dickinson.
54:27 Amy Poehler? Maybe it's a Harris Dickinson?
54:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, with a little more like, "I'll do whatever you say, but I can't, I forgot already."
54:37 Speaker 02 His day focuses at 5 o'clock. That's the only thing he holds on to is dinner at 5. Everything else is chaos and all of a sudden at 4:45, he's like,
54:47 Speaker 02 I love him so much.
54:48 Amy Poehler? Good news, we just got, we just heard that Austin Butler is excited to read for Banjo.
54:52 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
54:54 Amy Poehler? So, maybe.
54:55 Speaker 02 I'll put him out, I'm curious to see his tape.
54:58 Amy Poehler? I'd love to see him read.
54:59 Speaker 02 I would love to see him read. I'd love to see him read. Can't wait to get the tape.
55:05 Amy Poehler? Okay, love you.
55:06 Speaker 02 I love you so much!
55:07 Amy Poehler? Okay.
55:10 Amy Poehler? Thank you to Catherine Hahn, our great hilarious friend. Man, that was so fun. She's so funny. And she was reminding us about dance parties, which we used to have on the set of Parks and Rec. And I want to remind you, you can always have your own. All you need is three songs, one other person, and, uh, and, and the, the, the want and need to have fun. So, uh, do it now. Let's start with Brass in Pocket by The Pretenders. Take it slow, warm up and stretch. Then go to Red Wine Supernova, Chapel Rowan. Sing all the lyrics really loudly and point to each other.
55:52 Amy Poehler? And then finish by going to the club with, uh, a little Rihanna. We found love in a hopeless place and pretend that you've lost your purse on the dance floor. And run around. Three songs is all you need to change your day. Thank you guys so much for listening to another episode. Um, thanks for hanging.
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