Ike Barinholtz

Ike Barinholtz is a party pumper. Amy hangs with 'The Studio' star and talks about coming up in the Chicago improv scene, taking inspiration from Timothee Chalamet, and being a girl dad. Host: Amy Poehler Guests: Ike Barinholtz, Kathryn Hahn, and Emily Spivey Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman For Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, supervising producer Joel Lovell For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Chris Wholers, Nick Kosut, and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Kaya McMullen, video editor Drew van Steenbergen, booker Kat Spillane Original Music: Amy Miles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Amy Poehler?

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• 0:45Amy Poehler?

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• 1:29Amy Poehler?

  Ike is a hilarious, warm, funny mountain of a man that I met back in Chicago many years ago, and I worked with him on the movie Sisters. You might know him from The Mindy Project. We did a satirical podcast together called The Chris Chapman Do-Over, where he played a podcast host that, well, is not great. He wasn't great, but he was trying his best. He's the co-creator of a great new show called Running Point with Mindy Kaling, and he is the star of the studio, which is out now on Apple, and we're going to talk to him about that. Ike is amazing, and as always, we like to... Take a minute before we start to talk about people that know Ike or might know Ike's

• 2:12Amy Poehler?

  work and want to talk to me about questions they think I should ask him. So let's get on Zoom and let's talk to two queens, Emily Spivey, writer at SNL, and Catherine Hahn, actress and hot bitch extraordinaire. This episode is presented by the Toyota Grand Highlander. Life's journey brings constant change, filled with exciting surprises, new chapters, and grand challenges. And the Toyota Grand Highlander is more than a vehicle. It's your partner in embracing all life throws at you. Blinked and the kids have grown up? The third row can fit three adults. From daily routines to life-changing adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander is up for every grand challenge.

• 2:56Amy Poehler?

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• 3:13Amy Poehler?

  So how is your day going? What's going on with you? Where are you right now and how has your day been so far?

• 3:18Speaker 01

  Well, I'm in my car. It's getting hotter and hotter, which is great. I just got my eyebrows done. And that's how much I love Ike is that I'm showing up in this, in this, in this face.

• 3:37Amy Poehler?

  And Spivey, where are you talking to us from?

• 3:40Speaker 02

  I'm in North Carolina. Everything's fine. I'm still getting over that fakata flu.

• 3:45Amy Poehler?

  The SNL COVID flu.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  Right. The scourge that we all got at Plaza. I blame Lin-Manuel Miranda. I feel like he was patient zero. Because everywhere I went, I saw him.

• 3:59Amy Poehler?

  All right. Well, we'll get to Ike because you both have worked with him in various ways. And I'm going to talk to him and interview him in just a few minutes. He's going to be so happy, by the way, that you did this. So thank you.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  What I love is his like, his enthusiasm, the way he falls in love with the project and just has its back from the beginning. Like, I just love how he is so freaking loyal and faithful to the thing that he's doing, that it really inspires everybody else to like, Be as enthusiastic. Also, there's never a, he never lets the ball drop in any conversation. Like, if it's an awkward table, he will keep it up. Like, the vibration is very high with Ike Barinholtz. It's a very high vibration human being, I think.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Whenever I've worked with him and he played a character on a show that I did, he was the biggest cheerleader.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  Just a positive joy bomb all the time, brought so much to the role. Helped to really develop this character and then was completely so supportive and positive the whole time. Showed up for every event, just an absolute gentleman, funny, joy bomb. I mean, what a delight. And I thank, I thank him for that because that was a show that I had created and was running. And he really helped with my confidence. Like, like I would find myself going, oh, thank God Ike's gonna be there today. Like, okay, good. Ike B, fucking God. You're a God among men.

• 5:32Amy Poehler?

  Um, Han, Hanzi, by the way, if you have in any way turned off your AC, feel free to turn it on.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you so much. What if you just see me like just slump to the side? When did you see the roof?

• 5:49Speaker 02

  And Paula and I are trying to guess which heart structure you're in. Oh, God, what structure is she in?

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Just the sun beating down from above. LA, baby. There it is.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  LA's so bright. LA is too bright.

• 6:05Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, we're just using context clues like from her window to try to figure out where she is.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Like, where is she?

• 6:11Speaker 02

  God, is that a Vons? No, it's a Galfo.

• 6:14Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I first was really introduced to him. I know he had like such a huge body of work before this, but was on your podcast, Amy. That character that he played on, um, with Dr. Sheila with, was so freaking brilliant. Like, so dropped in. I really dig it. I also dig his height and his father.

• 6:34Amy Poehler?

  Yes, his height and his father. He's a tall gentleman. And he also has a dad who is new to the biz that we're gonna talk about today.

• 6:44Amy Poehler?

  You're talking, I just want to clarify, you're talking about a show called The Chris Chapman Doover, which is on Odyssey, a podcast that we produced, as well as a great podcast that Emily Spivey is the star of, called Women Talking About Murder. And they were both with the great Liz Kokowski. And Liz and I also made The Chris Chapman Doover with our producer Jenna here. And those are two great examples of like, our love of podcasts and us trying to do comedic versions of styles that we love. And in the one that Ike did, Ike plays one of those guys who can't get it right. And so he has to keep apologizing for the thing

• 7:26Amy Poehler?

  he said the week before. And Ike was so good at playing a guy who was trying to learn from his mistakes, but who had hot takes and he had to save them.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  So good. Such a good character.

• 7:43Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so the last question I'll ask and let you guys go, thank you so much for this, is I'm talking to Ike, and what do you think I should ask him?

• 7:50Speaker 02

  How are his girls? How is it being, how is it being a girl dad? And because that's something I really always admired too, is the fact, because he has three girls, right?

• 8:09Amy Poehler?

  Three girls, yes.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  Which I think is so cute.

• 8:13Amy Poehler?

  Yes, him and his wife Erica are awesome and awesome parents. And yeah, Spivey, you and I have boys. So it's a, it feels very different.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I thank God I had a boy. If I had a girl, I'd be completely like, half crazy. I wouldn't know what to do.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  I'm sure you know this, but I would love to know what, in the birth order in his family, where he falls, and how that influenced him as a comedian, and where that all started from for him.

• 8:42Amy Poehler?

  Wait, what is everyone's birth order on this call? Where are you and your fam?

• 8:47Speaker 01

  I'm oldest and of three, and I have two younger brothers.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  I'm the oldest, and then I have a younger sister. But people think that I'm the youngest a lot. Because my sister is so responsible and seems like an adult. And I guess I don't seem like that.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Amy, you always seem like the oldest in your family.

• 9:07Amy Poehler?

  I am the oldest, so I'm, I have to say, because I am, I'm older than my parents.

• 9:13Speaker 02

  I know, that's, that's what people don't realize about Paula, she's weirdly older than both her parents.

• 9:19Amy Poehler?

  But Ike is the oldest in his family, I know that, and his younger brother is also an actor. So it's, it's just two brothers.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  And his dad.

• 9:28Amy Poehler?

  And now his dad.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  That's something I would love to hear about, what that is. And also I feel like they all live here, so he has these huge Sunday dinners with everybody all the time, and it feels like, it just feels so wholesome over there, that just, kind of like a Sunday roast, with all your relatives coming over, like, it sounds like, I mean, it's so far from what my Sundays, my family's spread all, all over the country, but, I always feel like a, like a tenderness towards that, it feels really sweet.

• 9:58Amy Poehler?

  Um, I love a man who likes to eat. I don't trust a man who, who doesn't eat.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  No, it's, it's weird.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Neither. Um, okay, well, have fun talking to Ike, I can't wait to hear it.

• 10:09Amy Poehler?

  Thanks, and I can't wait, we can't wait to have you guys on this too, and so that we get to talk well about you behind your backs too, so. Okay, love y'all, miss you.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  All right, love you guys, good to see you, hon.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Before I pass out. I can't, I can't believe you. And then.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Oh no, there she goes.

• 10:29Amy Poehler?

  She wound.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  I know.

• 10:33Amy Poehler?

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• 14:15Speaker 05

  Fake food?

• 14:16Amy Poehler?

  Fake food? This is all my personal collection.

• 14:20Speaker 05

  You are one of the great collectors of fake food in North America.

• 14:23Amy Poehler?

  Wait, um, this is the fake food? This is fake food for my house.

• 14:26Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 14:27Amy Poehler?

  Look at the garlic.

• 14:28Speaker 05

  Fake garlic? I'm obsessed with this tiny Nutrigrain. Can I have one?

• 14:31Amy Poehler?

  Oh, really? Why don't you open it up?

• 14:33Speaker 05

  Wow, there's actually a...

• 14:36Amy Poehler?

  There's a weird Japanese Nutrigrain thing in there.

• 14:39Speaker 05

  I can't prove this, but I feel that the people who make these are perverts. You know, I mean, there's something mildly perverted about it, in a good way.

• 14:47Amy Poehler?

  Oh, you know what? Can we talk about that? You know that we have a theory that there's, there's a difference between pervert and creep.

• 14:54Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Perverts can be great.

• 14:58Amy Poehler?

  Agreed.

• 14:58Speaker 05

  Some of our greatest Americans have been perverts. FDR, hands down, the best president. Huge pervert.

• 15:05Amy Poehler?

  This is exactly why I wanted you here. We've got Ike Van Halt, and we're off to the races.

• 15:11Speaker 05

  But to your point, perverts can be good, creeps almost always are bad.

• 15:14Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, and it's, and perverts, you know, people are so afraid of creeps that I think they can over-correct and they can scoop up perverts.

• 15:24Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 15:24Amy Poehler?

  When they should just scoop up the creep.

• 15:26Speaker 05

  Welcome back to Justice for Perverts.

• 15:29Amy Poehler?

  I, when I hear the word pervert.

• 15:32Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 15:32Amy Poehler?

  I, I go like this, like for those people that are listening, not watching, I just get a little smile on my face like, like a little pervert.

• 15:38Speaker 05

  Oh, pervert, sweet little pervert.

• 15:40Amy Poehler?

  Like, you know, someone who's just like, I don't know, doing their thing, again, consensual adults.

• 15:45Speaker 05

  Consensual adults, everyone's into it.

• 15:47Amy Poehler?

  Sitting on cakes and they all like, whatever they like to do. They like, no, kink shame, I do not kink shame.

• 15:54Speaker 05

  I might kink shame a little bit just because it's a waste of a delicious cake.

• 15:58Amy Poehler?

  Okay, that's right, because you love food.

• 16:00Speaker 05

  I love food, I take it very seriously, and when I see someone sitting in it and touching themselves, I'm just thinking like, someone really put love into that cake and spent time baking. But to your point, I love a good pervert. Creeps, no thank you.

• 16:13Amy Poehler?

  No, thank you. And, and it's kind of like, like good art, like you know it when you see it, you know the difference between a pervert and a creep. Do you think that we have a higher tolerance for perverts because of our age?

• 16:24Speaker 05

  I think, yeah, it's a generational thing.

• 16:26Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 16:26Speaker 05

  I think the younger generations don't have as much love for, for perverts, but they're young, you'll get there, guys.

• 16:33Amy Poehler?

  Get there, guys.

• 16:34Speaker 05

  Give us a chance. I can also tell you this, sometimes perverts can become creeps.

• 16:39Amy Poehler?

  A hundred percent.

• 16:40Speaker 05

  I had a friend who I loved, and he had a dad who I actually liked a lot, but I remember going to their house as a kid, and the dad had Playboys in the bathroom, and I was like, amazing, this is the greatest thing in the world. And then his parents got divorced, and then the next time I went over there, he had Hustler under there.

• 16:57Amy Poehler?

  It's getting worse.

• 16:58Speaker 05

  And then you're like, ugh, because Playboy, you're like, when you're a whatever, eight year old boy, you're like, this is great. Hustler, you're like, that's pee. We're talking about pee now, which is not great for a young man.

• 17:12Amy Poehler?

  I think what you're trying to say is that every creep started as a pervert, but not every pervert becomes a creep.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  Could not be more well said. I believe it was Mark Twain who first coined that phrase.

• 17:26Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, you, you said that to me at the Mark Twain Awards. You can't, when you gave, when we gave each other awards at the Mark Twain Awards.

• 17:34Speaker 05

  I whispered to you, I hugged you and said, congratulations. How's my hairpiece, by the way?

• 17:38Amy Poehler?

  You look incredible, Ike.

• 17:39Speaker 05

  This got woven into my head this morning.

• 17:42Amy Poehler?

  Looks gorgeous. What kind of glue do you use on that?

• 17:45Speaker 05

  This is just good old Elmer's. Good old Elmer's, picks up at the right age. You know, paste it on there. It's a glue stick, though. So it's not like, I don't have white glue all over my hair.

• 17:54Amy Poehler?

  Do you like wearing wigs, by the way?

• 17:56Speaker 05

  No, I hate it because I have like seven hairs left in my head. And just whenever, well, yeah. But whenever they they pull them out, like the clips, it just, that hair comes out.

• 18:05Amy Poehler?

  You worry. Yeah, I I have so much fake hair in my head right now. And it's wild. Like, if I took it all out right now and laid it on the table, it would look like a regular person's hair. But I need so much fake hair to look like I have even normal hair.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  You are a great wig wearer, though. Like, when you used to, like, old UCB SNL sketches, you really wore a wig better than anyone. Better than anyone in this whole town.

• 18:32Amy Poehler?

  Well, let's get, really get started.

• 18:34Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 18:35Amy Poehler?

  Okay, let's be real and get this interview started.

• 18:37Speaker 05

  Let's be real.

• 18:38Amy Poehler?

  Ike Barinholtz is here. Ike, we met when and where?

• 18:43Speaker 05

  We met in, I can tell you pretty much like the exact years, like 1996. I had just started taking classes at Improv Olympic, which was your former theater. And you guys had just left, like, five months before I started to go start UCB. Maybe it was a year, but whatever. You guys had left and UCB was already kind of like the cool thing. And I remember they were like, hey, there's a Amy Poehler and Matt Besser coming back to teach a workshop at Improv Olympic at like 11 a.m. on a Monday. So I had a day job and I lied to my boss. I was like, I have the flu. And and I went and no one, like, for some reason, it was just me and three other people.

• 19:25Speaker 05

  And Matt Besser was like, yeah, we can't do this with this few amount of people. And so I remember you were like, why don't we just smoke a joint in the green room? And I was like.

• 19:33Amy Poehler?

  I did?

• 19:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:34Amy Poehler?

  So unprofessional.

• 19:36Speaker 05

  And I was like, this is the coolest person I've ever met in my life. Like, like, I'm obsessed. This is incredible. And then you guys came back and did the workshop and. I remember the first half of the workshop was you teaching us just getting in there and doing scenes. And I was like, this woman is the greatest improv teacher I've ever seen in my life. Like, oh, my God, I love her. She's the greatest. And then the second half was Besser, who was trying to teach us the Mortal Kombat form, you know?

• 20:02Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 20:03Speaker 05

  And the group of improvisers that were doing the workshop, we were all bad. We were all like, very young and green and trying to get. And the form wasn't going well. I'll never forget Matt Besser, God bless him, just goes at one point, goes, no, I should have done something else.

• 20:16Amy Poehler?

  He said it out loud. That's never a good sign when your teacher says out loud.

• 20:23Speaker 05

  Yes, yes. But, but I was still like, it was such an amazing memory for me because it was really when I first immersed myself in our world. And, and it was always cool. And then whenever, like, you know, I'd be at a friend's house watching Conan, and you would like come up and do a bit, I'd be like, she taught us a little workshop. Smoked a joint with her.

• 20:42Amy Poehler?

  Oh, my God. How much, how, how, you started when you were 18?

• 20:47Speaker 05

  I was 18. Yeah, I went to college for a year at Boston University and just did not enjoy it, was not going to class, was very distracted. And I knew I wasn't going to go back. I knew I was being drawn to acting. And I went to go randomly see the Improv Olympics 10th anniversary show. And I believe you guys shot a video. And I was just blown away by seeing you guys, saw McKay for the first time. Tim Meadows, specifically, was so funny in that show that I was like, I am signing up for classes tomorrow. So that was kind of my journey from college into the improv scene.

• 21:25Amy Poehler?

  Do you ever think about finishing college?

• 21:27Speaker 05

  I am going to try to enroll. Have you seen the film Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield? I'm gonna try to do that. No, I, you know what? That is something that like, I just, I don't know if it is for everyone. You know what I mean? I think college used to be, at least when I was there, it was a thing where everyone went. And it was just a fait accompli that you would go to college, you would get a job, and that's how it worked. And I think that's changed a little bit.

• 21:54Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 05

  And to me, I'm just kind of like, Yeah, I don't, it's never something I was like longing for.

• 22:03Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 22:04Speaker 05

  You know?

• 22:04Amy Poehler?

  I mean, I just find your brain, your brain so huge. You're a super, super smart guy. I mean, we'll get to it, but you basically won, I mean, you won Jeopardy.

• 22:14Speaker 05

  I won Celebrity Jeopardy. And then I did, I went on regular Jeopardy and I did win.

• 22:19Amy Poehler?

  You won a regular Jeopardy.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 22:21Amy Poehler?

  So when you were first in Chicago, and by the way, I'm wearing Chicago Bulls for you.

• 22:25Speaker 05

  Like, my heart is melting. It's just beautiful. And that's like a vintage one, but it's nice. It's really good. Dave Stassen would go wild.

• 22:32Amy Poehler?

  We love Dave Stassen, your writing partner, co-creator with you of Running Point.

• 22:37Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 22:37Amy Poehler?

  Great show that's coming out, or out, is out.

• 22:40Speaker 05

  It's out.

• 22:40Amy Poehler?

  It's out with Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling also producing on that. And you guys are huge basketball fans. We've talked a lot about basketball. Can we talk about the Bulls? And I mean, no, I don't know where to start, but.

• 22:54Speaker 05

  The current Bulls or the, the great Bulls of my youth? Because I will say this, growing up in Chicago in the 90s was so remarkable that I am so fortunate that I've inoculated myself from any sports pain, right? Meaning that the Bulls have been terrible now for a while. The, it's the worst, it's the lowest point for Chicago sports. Across the board, every team is terrible. And I want them to do well, but I don't live and die by it because I had so much of a run in the 90s that I'm not like, oh, even if the Cubs went to the World Series this year and they lost, I wouldn't be like, damn it. I, I feel like the 90s gave me such a wonderful joy that I still hold on to it.

• 23:39Speaker 05

  And I'm able to watch sports with a very healthy approach to it.

• 23:43Amy Poehler?

  Do you remember the first time you saw Michael Jordan? And did you ever meet Michael Jordan?

• 23:47Speaker 05

  Yes, and yes. First time I saw him live, well, I went to a Bulls game before he was on the team, when it was all Orlando Woolridge. I saw him his second season before he got hurt. Or his third, oh, sorry, his third season, after he came back for the first time. And it was crazy. It was, it was such a phenomenon, like especially in Chicago. Before he really blew up. And then I met him years later at a health club. And I was holding a, you know, Archie magazine, Archie.

• 24:17Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, Archie Comics.

• 24:18Speaker 05

  I was holding like a Jughead Digest 12. And he walks in, I just froze.

• 24:23Amy Poehler?

  How old were you?

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Oh, God, maybe eleven. I don't want to say like seventeen. I was reading Jughead. Was it Jesse Jughead? It was actually Slaughterhouse Five.

• 24:37Amy Poehler?

  That's Creep territory. That's not pervert. That's Creep.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  That's Creep. That's true. So, but I just walked up to him and held up my Jughead Digest. And he just looked at it and signed it and I was, I melted.

• 24:48Amy Poehler?

  So you have it signed still?

• 24:49Speaker 05

  I have it signed still. It's still at home. And yeah, it's, it's, I love him. I love him. I love too that he has lasted so long. That documentary that came out was so great and a whole new generation of people never saw him play live. Still understand how wonderful he is.

• 25:06Amy Poehler?

  Well, as we continue to talk about sports, I just want to say that underneath my Chicago Bulls sweatshirt is this guy.

• 25:13Speaker 05

  Boston Celtics shirt.

• 25:14Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, it is gonna be a Boston Celtics shirt. Because, look at this.

• 25:20Speaker 05

  That's really good. That's really good.

• 25:23Speaker 05

  I did love him very, very much.

• 25:25Amy Poehler?

  Is it, is it, I loved him so much.

• 25:27Speaker 05

  I loved him so much.

• 25:28Amy Poehler?

  That was the eighties Celtics wore the nineties Bulls for us.

• 25:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:32Amy Poehler?

  They kept us going for a really long time.

• 25:34Speaker 05

  He was amazing. And I know there's like a nine part Celtics documentary that's coming out.

• 25:38Amy Poehler?

  Bill Simmons.

• 25:39Speaker 05

  Simmons.

• 25:40Amy Poehler?

  Bill, we cannot wait to see this documentary.

• 25:41Speaker 05

  He's from Boston, Bill Simmons?

• 25:42Amy Poehler?

  Yes, of course.

• 25:48Amy Poehler?

  Bostonians are like Canadians. Bostonians are like, love to say they're from Boston. And they know everyone from Boston. Canadians are the same way.

• 25:57Speaker 05

  Very true.

• 25:58Amy Poehler?

  They're like, you know, Bryan Adams is Canadian. It's like, okay.

• 26:01Speaker 05

  All right, you got that one. Fine. You should leave with Martin Short, maybe.

• 26:06Amy Poehler?

  Can you tell us a little bit about Running Point?

• 26:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, so Running Point is, is, it's a story inspired by the life of Jeannie Buss, who's the owner of the Lakers, who I've actually gotten to know over the years and who really is like, I imagine like, most owners of sports teams like.

• 26:23Speaker 05

  Have like satanic rituals where they worship Moloch and they're billionaires and stuff. She's just like a normal person, you know, it's like a family business and, and she's so like forthcoming and wonderful and her life really is crazy. I mean, she's the only female owner in a, in a incredibly male dominated field and running a legacy team, one of the most important teams in the league. And so we thought that a family comedy, or Mindy Kaling thought like a family comedy, uh, set in a basketball office would be a really funny world and, and thought of Dave and I and brought it to us. We obviously worked with her on the Mindy project years ago and we really loved her and hadn't worked with her in forever. And so the three of us just kind of talked about what it could be and, and what we think it is. And, uh, yeah, that was like three years ago.

• 27:07Amy Poehler?

  And it's doing really well.

• 27:09Speaker 05

  It was, it was, yeah.

• 27:10Amy Poehler?

  Number one, baby.

• 27:11Speaker 05

  It was number one on Netflix, baby. Shout out Papa Ted. We love you Papa Ted.

• 27:14Amy Poehler?

  For those people who are just listening, we just dabbed.

• 27:20Speaker 05

  We dabbed in honor of Ted Sarandos.

• 27:22Amy Poehler?

  We dabbed. We did a Netflix dab.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  Running point is canceled.

• 27:25Amy Poehler?

  Oh no, you just got a text.

• 27:27Speaker 05

  It was the dab. Little dab will do you. That's what they say.

• 27:31Amy Poehler?

  A little dab will not do you. A little dab will do you in.

• 27:34Speaker 05

  Little dab will do you in.

• 27:35Amy Poehler?

  Oh my God. Um, you do a lot of things really well. You write, you produce, you, um, act and they're all like you, you, you have a lot of skills that you can do really well. How do you, I, I guess the question is like, which one right now is the one that's like turning you on the most? Which is the one that like, because you just were in as an actor in the studio.

• 28:03Speaker 05

  My erotic photography. And it's a problem.

• 28:05Amy Poehler?

  I can't believe I said turning you on. And why did I say that? I'm, I'm so bad at this. I've just started. I, I seriously don't know how to ask questions. Like what are questions? Hey, there's one. That's a question. What are questions?

• 28:22Amy Poehler?

  Because on it, but, but I guess what I'm trying to get at is people, I don't think enough people know how much you write. I'll say that.

• 28:29Speaker 05

  Yes, I, right now is a very blessed time where I love shooting and acting and being on set and production. That is fantastic. Um, as you get older, you know, I'm at that age right now where my kids are still wanna like hang out with me a little bit and they still, like, they're gonna be gonzo and they're gonna be teenagers that just don't wanna hang out with me.

• 28:51Amy Poehler?

  You have so much time until they're teenagers.

• 28:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:53Amy Poehler?

  They're still little.

• 28:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, but yeah, the oldest is like, she's like 11 going on.

• 28:57Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:58Speaker 05

  Um, and, and it will, I know it will go fast. So I, right now, like, in this little phase of like writing and spending, I think also too, we've kind of, through the years, through COVID, we figured out how to like really focus a writer's room and be very effective with our time. Like, I'm sure like at Parks, you know, you remember like, oh yeah, they're coming in at 10 and they're leaving at 10, you know what I mean? Like, it's long, long hours. It's, it, it, it is a little bit better now where you can kind of manage your time a lot better, target it a lot more, still put in the time, but be able to cook dinner every night. That's my real favorite thing to do is to like cook dinner at night for the kids and eat like a giant just bucket of food. Um, uh, that is like the, the fun zone right now. And that will, you know, hopefully change at

• 29:43Speaker 05

  some point because in a few months I'll be like, I need to get out of here. I need to be on set.

• 29:47Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, I don't think, you know, maybe for people that aren't too aware, when you're on set filming something, it's kind of when you have the least amount of control of your time and you're looking.

• 29:56Speaker 05

  You have to surrender completely.

• 29:58Amy Poehler?

  And you're looking at a 12 hour day.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  12 hour plus days. If you're acting too, you're getting into hair and makeup. If you're shooting far away, uh, you know, you're waking up at 5 a.m. and, and that's when it can get rough. But then you're exhilarated because you're on set and you're funny and you're with all the fun people and stuff. So, um, but right now the zone I'm, I'm really uh, loving is being, creating and being at home and writing and stuff. So.

• 30:21Amy Poehler?

  I remember with Parks, I mean, the best thing about it was the immersion into the world and the worst thing about it was just so much time away. Like, I really had to figure out how to. Balance having little kids and being on set, it is not easy.

• 30:38Speaker 05

  It's hard and we're lucky too. Like we're shooting Running Point in LA. I got friends that are like, oh yeah, I'm going to Newfoundland for four months to shoot like a sci fi show. That's really tough. That's where you're like, oh man, you gotta really love acting or you know, need to do it and go and that, that's the rough one.

• 30:57Amy Poehler?

  Okay. And then to get to the other thing that you're doing, because I'm very excited to watch this, the studio.

• 31:03Speaker 05

  Studio with our good friend Catherine Hahn. We love her. I remember you told me years ago, you were like, do you know Catherine Hahn? I was like, no. You're like, would love her. And you were right.

• 31:13Amy Poehler?

  Catherine Hahn is, she's a good example of someone I met in my forties. You know, you think you've kind of met your friends for life. And Catherine and I, we just kept hearing about each other and I was a big fan of her work and I knew her work. And then she came on Parks and Paul Rudd was like, have you, you don't know Catherine Hahn? And he said, oh, you two are gonna, and we just immediately like, and she is one of my dearest friends and so funny and so talented.

• 31:39Speaker 05

  People are obsessed with her on Instagram. Like, like if someone posts like a trailer for the show, like every reply is like, mother, mother, I'm coming for you. I love you.

• 31:50Amy Poehler?

  You know why? Because her applause did the kissy kissy.

• 31:54Speaker 05

  Oh, I know.

• 31:56Amy Poehler?

  They did a little bit of witches, witches, kissy kissy witches and ah.

• 32:01Speaker 05

  The original show was called Kissy Kissy.

• 32:04Amy Poehler?

  The original show was.

• 32:09Amy Poehler?

  It was like woo.

• 32:10Speaker 05

  I'm doing a show where me and another wizard kiss. And I don't think it's.

• 32:14Amy Poehler?

  Wizard kiss.

• 32:14Speaker 05

  Wizard kiss. Wizard kiss actually does sound like a pristine show.

• 32:18Amy Poehler?

  Who would be the guy that we would like to see you kiss in Wizard Kiss?

• 32:22Speaker 05

  Do you remember Bull from Night Court? Richard Mole.

• 32:26Amy Poehler?

  I'm going to say, who, who would we want to see you kiss in Wizard Kiss? It would be like.

• 32:31Speaker 05

  Do you want like a younger guy? Like something, I bet Timmy the other night at the Laker game. Should we get Timmy?

• 32:35Amy Poehler?

  God, I would binge.

• 32:38Speaker 05

  He's adorable.

• 32:39Amy Poehler?

  If you and Timothy Chalamet kissed in a new show called Wizard Kiss.

• 32:43Speaker 05

  Timmy, if you're around, give me a call.

• 32:49Amy Poehler?

  And it's like, you guys are casting spells and every once in a while you go.

• 32:55Speaker 05

  Critics are like, this is the worst show ever. The end of peak TV is over.

• 33:01Speaker 05

  So many executives are firing because of this green lighting.

• 33:03Amy Poehler?

  But how about Timmy Shal- Timothy Shalton?

• 33:05Speaker 05

  He's got the goods, man.

• 33:07Amy Poehler?

  Speaking of Michael Jordan.

• 33:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's I, that's, I thought of you when I thought that speech.

• 33:12Amy Poehler?

  I thought of you too now.

• 33:12Speaker 05

  Cause I was like, that's, that's my guy right there.

• 33:14Amy Poehler?

  Okay. And I, I promise we'll cut this part cause I could talk about it forever. But you know, I'm kinda into the Enneagram, which is this like thing that tells what personality you are. And Ike is at Enneagram three. So is Jenna, our producer. Uh, so is Tina, so is Seth. Achiever, right? Threes are like, get it, win, be the best.

• 33:34Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 33:34Amy Poehler?

  I would say that Timmy's speech is ultimate Enneagram three energy. He recently gave a speech at the SAG Awards where he basically said, I want to be the greatest.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:44Amy Poehler?

  I loved it.

• 33:44Speaker 05

  I loved it. I loved it. And I love that too. He wasn't like, I want to be the greatest, like Brando. He's like, no, I want to be like Michael Jordan and Michael Phelps.

• 33:52Amy Poehler?

  And Viola Davis.

• 33:53Speaker 05

  Viola Davis. Yeah. It wasn't just to acting. It was this whole spectrum of things. Yeah, no, he's got the, he's got the goods, man. He's making mustaches, uh, great again. He really is. I saw him at the Laker game. He had a beautiful mustache. He looked great.

• 34:05Amy Poehler?

  Who grows a great mustache?

• 34:07Speaker 05

  Um, Henry Cavill.

• 34:10Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 34:11Speaker 05

  That thing is incredible.

• 34:12Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's, it's like thick and strong. Mine is not great. Mine looks like a guy that like is killed very early on by Liam Neeson in one of the Taken films. That's like, I don't know what are you, ah, like, like, yeah, like that. It's like thin and wispy. And I will grow it out sometimes and like, no one likes it. It's not, it's, it's, it's.

• 34:33Amy Poehler?

  Have you ever grown a full beard?

• 34:35Speaker 05

  I had one like literally two weeks ago. It looked, I was very like, was I an Imam? Was I a Rabbi? Somewhere in between. I don't know, but it was very long and, and, and, and thick and, and quite frankly gross. Uh, it got to like, uh, uh, once it gets past a certain point, once you're dealing with, what's that smell? Oh, I had cereal. Like, you know what I mean?

• 34:55Amy Poehler?

  That's so disgusting.

• 34:57Speaker 05

  So yeah, so I, I shaved it and then my daughters were like, we missed the beard.

• 35:01Amy Poehler?

  Oh, they liked it?

• 35:02Speaker 05

  Too bad. Yeah.

• 35:03Amy Poehler?

  Did Erica like it, your wife?

• 35:04Speaker 05

  I think at first it was kinda like, oh, this is nice.

• 35:06Amy Poehler?

  She's like, oh, there's a stranger in the house. She was like, oh no, don't chase me. Don't chase me, don't chase me.

• 35:14Speaker 05

  The money's in the safe. Leave me alone.

• 35:18Amy Poehler?

  Oh, fine. I'll take off clothes. Fine. For every five minutes, she says some long, complicated thing. For every five minutes, I don't tell you the code to the safe.

• 35:28Speaker 05

  I'll take off one article of clothing.

• 35:29Amy Poehler?

  Clothing, bearded man that doesn't live here. That's not my husband.

• 35:35Amy Poehler?

  You're like, wait, what's the rule?

• 35:36Speaker 05

  Let's just watch TV. Come on.

• 35:39Amy Poehler?

  Okay, but she liked it. She didn't mind it.

• 35:41Speaker 05

  No, she didn't mind it and it was cool. But then I just got, like, I think for the premiere of Running Point, I showed up. And also, when you're an actor, people are like, what are you shooting? And you're like, nothing. Like, are you in The Revenant, Part Two? You're like, no, I'm just, I got nothing going on.

• 35:56Amy Poehler?

  Um, you brought up Catherine Hahn. And we do this fun thing with, on Good Hang, where before we have our guests in, we do a little Zoom, a little fun Zoom with people that know them. And we talk well behind their back.

• 36:10Speaker 05

  Ooh. It's almost like This Is Your Life a little bit.

• 36:13Amy Poehler?

  It's a little bit like, you know, the idea is that you don't really know who's gonna show up and who's gonna pop in. And so we did a Zoom with Catherine Hahn and

• 36:22Speaker 05

  Michelle Obama. Who are you gonna say?

• 36:27Amy Poehler?

  With your first wife, Michelle Obama.

• 36:29Speaker 05

  Oh, yes, yes.

• 36:29Amy Poehler?

  And Catherine, we did it with Catherine Hahn and Emily Spivey.

• 36:32Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 36:33Amy Poehler?

  And we got to talk about you.

• 36:34Speaker 05

  Two of my all time faves. Truly.

• 36:36Amy Poehler?

  I know.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  God, I love Spivey.

• 36:37Amy Poehler?

  And they had questions for you.

• 36:39Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 36:40Amy Poehler?

  And Hahn, Spivey's question was about your daughters. Like, what is it like to be the dad of three girls? You know, you're a girl dad, as they would say.

• 36:49Speaker 05

  I'm a, I'm a girl dad. I'm a girl boss. And

• 36:53Amy Poehler?

  And that's problematic.

• 36:54Speaker 05

  I'm a girl interrupted. It is, you know, I grew up in a house with boys, just me and my brother. And it is, it is a delight. Like, it is like, you know, and again, I'm in that zone where they are really, like, still little and they want to play and they are asking me questions about the world. You know what I mean? And I'm very well aware of the fact that there will be a time where they're just like, they won't even be texting. They'll have like a chip in their brain and be like, Dad, I'm shipping right now.

• 37:24Amy Poehler?

  But I have, I have a vision of like, um, you know, Peyton Foster getting married and

• 37:30Speaker 05

  To each other?

• 37:31Amy Poehler?

  Getting

• 37:32Speaker 05

  Jesus, I mean

• 37:34Amy Poehler?

  Sorry, no, not to each other. And you, first of all, you love to cry. You're a big crier.

• 37:38Speaker 05

  Oh, Jesus, yes.

• 37:39Amy Poehler?

  And, um, that might, I don't know if that's a girl dad thing, but it's definitely an Ike thing.

• 37:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:43Amy Poehler?

  You love to cry.

• 37:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:44Amy Poehler?

  I feel like, and I have this vision of you dancing with one of them and then the other sisters tapping out. Like that's

• 37:51Speaker 05

  I'm gonna

• 37:51Amy Poehler?

  I know.

• 37:52Speaker 05

  You're going cavalcans right now.

• 37:54Amy Poehler?

  That's a part about girl dads of which I, I know.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  Are you trying to make me cry? And then you're like, and then your grandfather's ghost comes down and he tells you he forgives you.

• 38:05Speaker 05

  And I'm like

• 38:07Speaker 05

  That would be good.

• 38:09Amy Poehler?

  I think we're similar in this way, which is you, you live very big, you take big swings and you love that about people. And you are definitely that kind of person. You're a party pumper.

• 38:18Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 38:19Amy Poehler?

  I think we both are, I like to say. We share that in common. We like a good time. We like trying to like get

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Get the party going, man.

• 38:26Amy Poehler?

  Party going, the energy going. Like I've been to a million parties with you, small and big. And when Ike shows up, like it's like, we're, we're getting started.

• 38:35Speaker 05

  Come on, let's cut loose.

• 38:36Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. And have you always been like that? Do you think that just like, that was your from day one vibe?

• 38:41Speaker 05

  I remember like when I was like five, like my parents would have like friends over for dinner and I would like, after dinner, walk around and be like, let me see your cigar. Like, you know what I mean? Like I was like doing bits and like imitating Indiana Jones and stuff. And so like I do love, uh, you know, being around people I love, like, like sitting around like a bunch of your friends, like doing bits and laughing and, and maybe having a few drinks. Like that is a very, very fun time and, and I'm not stuffy. Again, I'm a lot like Rodney Dangerfield.

• 39:11Amy Poehler?

  You really are. And for the kids, and let me just ask anybody under the age of 53 about Rodney Dangerfield. Okay, let's take a water break.

• 39:19Speaker 05

  Mmm, I Stanley.

• 39:21Amy Poehler?

  I wish Stanley was a sponsor.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  You can get him.

• 39:24Amy Poehler?

  Do you have a Stanley too?

• 39:24Speaker 05

  No, this is a Yeti. Should get Yeti as a sponsor, but an actual Yeti.

• 39:29Amy Poehler?

  I love my Stanley so much. I know it's basic. Well, maybe not. Stanley, if you're a sponsor, it's not basic.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  It's not basic.

• 39:34Amy Poehler?

  It's a wonderful way to drink.

• 39:37Amy Poehler?

  But if you're not a sponsor, I know it's kind of basic bitch Stanley stuff. But there's something about the weird like baby bird gerbil thing you have to do where you have to go.

• 39:50Amy Poehler?

  That's so satisfying.

• 39:53Amy Poehler?

  It's strange, okay. So, um, I feel like you're, like, you're, Emily and Han and I were talking about this about you, about your enthusiasm for life and for projects. Like, when you come onto a set, when you say yes to something, one of the best things about you is, people know you're gonna commit.

• 40:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:16Amy Poehler?

  Where did that feeling of like, where did you learn that idea that you had to commit? And what is it, you know, what does it do for you?

• 40:23Speaker 05

  That's, I'm gonna say that's, that's, that's, I think, from, from our old improv days. I think that's a big part of it is, uh, I mean, just at like a basic level, like, you know, I will give Mick Napier some credit on that one, because I remember Mick, who was like a famous Chicago improv director and guru. I remember I was taking classes with him one time. And I think early on, when I would do improv, I was like a lot of, bit of a sideline guy, like I would kind of come on and say like a funny line from the side. And he was like, get in there, man, get in there, you know, do weird shit, be weird. And I think that kind of, a big part of our improv training is learning to not be afraid of failing.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  So, as you develop as an improviser, you start to learn that like, oh yeah, even if this scene is bad, you gotta commit, man. You gotta like go all in, you gotta just, you gotta, you gotta do it. And I think that kind of just bled into, you know, the way I look at work. I will say I'm very lucky. Uh, I'm, you know, uh, by and large, doing projects that I love, you know? If I was doing The Sound of Freedom 2, you know, I don't know if I'd be like, hey, everybody, I got a food truck, yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 05

  You know, um, but, uh, but, you know, and again, most of the things I do are comedy and stuff. And I do think it's very important that, you know, when you're on set, when you're, when you're, when you're doing a, whether a TV show or a movie, it's a comedy, it should be loose. It should be, you know, it should be, people should be ready to laugh and, and, and, you know.

• 41:56Amy Poehler?

  But you do, but you bring it over to not just your work, but your life too. Like, when you're in something, you're really in it.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:02Amy Poehler?

  You really are in it.

• 42:03Speaker 05

  I, I, yeah, I, you know, I, again, I think it's just because I'm lucky that people I'm hanging out with, like, our friends are great friends, you know, the people we know are wonderful people. And so I'm, I don't know, it feels like, I think we're only here for a couple of minutes and it's good just to kind of... Throw it all out there, you know what I mean?

• 42:20Amy Poehler?

  It's a hard, it's a good lesson to learn early. I always try to tell my kids this too. Like if you can get past the fear of being cool, like you said, or failing or being cool.

• 42:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:30Amy Poehler?

  The coolest people are the people that are like, take the biggest swings and go for it. And just kind of, it's a hard lesson to learn to just get over being embarrassed, but you don't mind being embarrassed.

• 42:41Speaker 05

  You also have to go through, I think, a lot of embarrassing things. Like, you know what I mean? Like I shit my pants on the L one time, you know what I mean? And like, it was a nightmare. Like I've been in countless bad improv scenes and movies that didn't work and episodes of TV that were just like, what? You know what I mean? Like I've had, I've tripped at an airport. Like, you know what I mean? Like all these things I think add up and kind of, they give you metal, I think.

• 43:05Amy Poehler?

  People probably know who maybe have listened to you on other podcasts, but you talked about being in Boom Chicago, which was like you performed in Amsterdam with Jordan Peele.

• 43:12Speaker 05

  Seth Meyers.

• 43:13Amy Poehler?

  Seth Meyers.

• 43:14Speaker 05

  Josh Meyers.

• 43:14Amy Poehler?

  Liz Kukowski.

• 43:15Speaker 05

  Liz Kukowski.

• 43:16Amy Poehler?

  Josh Meyers, all these are great people over there. And how many, how long were you there?

• 43:20Speaker 05

  It was almost two years, which was wild. It was crazy. It was a crazy party time.

• 43:24Amy Poehler?

  Did you celebrate Y2K in Amsterdam?

• 43:26Speaker 05

  I did.

• 43:26Amy Poehler?

  Ooh, what was that like?

• 43:28Speaker 05

  Cocany.

• 43:29Amy Poehler?

  Very cocaine?

• 43:30Speaker 05

  Very cocaine, from what I remember.

• 43:32Amy Poehler?

  Cocaine, but it was, it was Dutch. So it was like cocaine.

• 43:36Speaker 05

  Cocaine.

• 43:36Amy Poehler?

  Cocaine.

• 43:39Amy Poehler?

  Cocaine.

• 43:39Speaker 05

  It's like regular cocaine, it's just more condescending.

• 43:43Amy Poehler?

  It's just more to the point.

• 43:44Speaker 05

  It's more direct to the point.

• 43:45Amy Poehler?

  It's more direct.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 43:46Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  Um, but it was really, it was a great time. It was, it was just, uh, you know, uh, really fun people. I was really young. I was like 22. I'd never been to Europe before. Um, we were doing like, the theater was like becoming like a thing where like the prime minister would come and we would have huge audiences. And it was just, it was like the ultimate party. And we're all like still friends and it was really, really fun.

• 44:09Amy Poehler?

  That sounds so great.

• 44:10Speaker 05

  I might go back this summer, but I would go back with my family, which would be interesting. You know, like, hey girls, uh, this is where I took too much ecstasy and vomited before I saw Oasis. Yeah, I picked the pill out of the vomit, made it again.

• 44:26Speaker 05

  This is a different time, guys. This is like 1999. Please don't judge me.

• 44:32Amy Poehler?

  This is before you could get another pill. You only had one.

• 44:34Speaker 05

  I had one.

• 44:35Amy Poehler?

  You had to get it out.

• 44:35Speaker 05

  But it wasn't on trees.

• 44:36Amy Poehler?

  Are you, are you gonna see Oasis again? Do you wanna?

• 44:38Speaker 05

  I would like to see Oasis.

• 44:39Amy Poehler?

  Do you think that Oasis, I mean, I'm curious if Oasis, will they, will they tour?

• 44:44Speaker 05

  I, I.

• 44:44Amy Poehler?

  Are they gonna make it to the thing?

• 44:46Speaker 05

  I think they will make it. They seem to have like.

• 44:48Amy Poehler?

  They're pumped?

• 44:48Speaker 05

  They're, I think they're pumped and I think they need the money very bad. There's an amazing clip, if you can find it, of Liam Gallagher.

• 44:57Speaker 05

  Making a little cup of tea and he's just like, you know, back in the day, I had four people doing this for me. I had one person holding the cup, the other person putting the bag in, the other person getting the water, the person handing it to me. Now I have to do this fucking shit by myself. That's why there's no more rock stars.

• 45:14Speaker 05

  It's really a good, good little clip. But yeah, no, I'll see Oasis. Like I, I, I'm a nineties boy.

• 45:19Amy Poehler?

  Me too.

• 45:20Speaker 05

  They were so fucking cool.

• 45:22Amy Poehler?

  So cool. And those brothers fighting all the time. So cool.

• 45:26Speaker 05

  So fun.

• 45:26Amy Poehler?

  That was when you could just be like, maybe I'll show up, maybe I won't.

• 45:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:31Amy Poehler?

  And, and I, I mean, I guess you can do that now still, but it just feels more, you'll just get sued more.

• 45:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, if you watch the show.

• 45:39Amy Poehler?

  Back then, you just, people would go, hey, come on.

• 45:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Oh man, it sucks. But I had a great night anyways. Still saw Sebado. They rocked.

• 45:47Amy Poehler?

  Sebado. Oh my God, that's such a deep cut. You, I, I love your family. I, you have a brother in who's an actor.

• 45:55Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 45:55Amy Poehler?

  And incredible, John Barinholtz, great actor, great guy, wonderful family, family man. And now you have a dad who is an actor.

• 46:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 46:04Amy Poehler?

  And Emily and, and Han both wanted to know what it was like now to have your dad be on TV. And we, they were asking what your dad did before, which I didn't really know. What was your, was he a lawyer?

• 46:17Speaker 05

  He was a lawyer for like thirty five plus years. He wanted to be an actor back in the day. And then like, he like auditioned for Second City when like John Belushi was there. Like he wanted to be an actor, but just was impatient. It's like, ah, I'm gonna have a family. I'm gonna go to law school. And he, he was, yeah, he was a, you know, litigator for thirty plus years, but he was very supportive of my brother and I. And they came to so many improv shows. And there was a couple of shows that we did with him. We brought him on stage and acted with him, which was really fun. Susan Messing brought him on stage and did a show with him one time. It was crazy. But. Yeah, he always had this kind of little passion. And I remember like five years ago, he was like, I'm gonna retire and I don't know what to do.

• 47:02Speaker 05

  And, you know, blah, blah, blah. And, and I remember thinking like, well, I've moved to LA and, you know, maybe you could, I don't know, get a line on a show or something, or, you know, I'll put you in stuff if I can. And, and, and, long story short, a year after that, a friend of a friend is like, hey, would your dad put himself on tape? We're trying to do like a new hybrid show where they need a judge. And it sounded insane, low stakes. I was like, yeah, sure. And so he, he, he, they called him and my brother and I put him on tape. And I remember filming him and looking at John and being like,

• 47:38Amy Poehler?

  That's pretty good.

• 47:39Speaker 05

  Good read. He gave a nice little performance. So we sent in the tape and like an hour later, a friend of mine is like, hey, I'm cast, I'm producing the show, I'm gonna cast your dad. And that show was Jury Duty. So it comes out and it's a huge hit and he's like recognized everywhere he goes now. And like, God bless him. He loves, it's like, it's his dream. He's so, uh, living his best life and he's in Running Point, he's in the studio. He's, he was in The Accountant Part Two with Ben Affleck.

• 48:08Amy Poehler?

  Oh, my God.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, he's, he's, he's a working Los Angeles actor. And it's amazing. And it's like, even when there's times where you're like, like if I'm cooking dinner on Sunday at four o'clock and I got the stove, I got four burners going, he'll come up and be like, hey, remember whenever you get a chance, if you could put me on tape for that thing. And you're like, okay. So then you're all of a sudden, you're filming your dad.

• 48:29Amy Poehler?

  You're still taping him?

• 48:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:30Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 48:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean.

• 48:32Amy Poehler?

  So we gotta talk. That's too much.

• 48:35Speaker 05

  It's.

• 48:35Amy Poehler?

  You gotta hand that over to somebody else.

• 48:37Speaker 05

  I, I, he, he, yeah. And that someone else is not my mom. I'm not gonna put her through that.

• 48:44Amy Poehler?

  Okay, so we did this podcast that was really fun, cause we were, we, we, we did a bunch of, um, satirical podcasts.

• 48:52Speaker 05

  Well, your pitch to me, which I was still like the greatest pitch is like, don't you wanna improvise but not have to go on stage after 8:00 PM? You know, you were like, like, we could just go if we were in a studio and just riffing. And I was like, oh, my God. And you were like, what if it was a fake podcast network?

• 49:10Amy Poehler?

  And. Yes.

• 49:11Speaker 05

  Basically, one show, your, your character, Dr. Doctor?

• 49:14Amy Poehler?

  Doctor Sheila. I think you have to say her name in the form of a question. She's not a doctor.

• 49:19Speaker 05

  She's not a doctor. She kind of launched it and then. Her last episode introduced Chris Chapman, which was my character.

• 49:28Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 49:28Speaker 05

  Which was a, I would say he would be a member of the manosphere.

• 49:34Amy Poehler?

  Yes.

• 49:34Speaker 05

  Right? He's definitely adjacent to some of the podcasts you've heard of.

• 49:38Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. Experts who have, um, uh, supplements and labs.

• 49:45Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:45Amy Poehler?

  And, um, like, uh, a lot of, uh, they do extreme stuff.

• 49:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:51Amy Poehler?

  And they have hot takes. A lot of hot takes.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, where it's like, oh, yeah, no, you're supposed to actually sleep in ice water. Like, you're supposed to, I read that if you sleep for eight hours encased in ice water, it will help you de-inflammation. It's the stuff.

• 50:05Amy Poehler?

  Or even, even more, they're like, it'll help with your menopause. That's what they say. And you're like, oh, okay.

• 50:11Speaker 05

  Give that a shot.

• 50:11Amy Poehler?

  Okay.

• 50:12Speaker 05

  Uh, but yeah, uh, misinformed, uh, confident.

• 50:15Amy Poehler?

  You were incredible at, at, at talking extemporaneously as that kind of person. Because like I said from the beginning, when we started, and Liz Kukowski, the co-creator, and I would laugh, we would be, we would, we would just say, like, look at Ike go. You are able to talk about subjects and go very deep about the conspiracy theories around them. And sometimes I don't know where, where you left, where Chris Chapman.

• 50:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:40Amy Poehler?

  And Ike, there was some blurred lines.

• 50:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, definitely. There was some blurred lines. They came to me with an idea and they said, we know the effect you have on our society. We know how significant you are. We want you back. And they said, the one thing we are worried about, we are worried that no women will listen to the show. So they said, you want to do the show? You need to get 1% at least female listenership. Right?

• 51:06Amy Poehler?

  The character of Chris Chapman is feeling like the world is, you know, moving too fast and he's trying to catch up and trying to apologize for stuff that he got wrong. And then when he apologizes, he kind of, he gets it wrong again.

• 51:21Speaker 05

  He gets it wrong again. And I, I think there, there is a big part of me like that. Like, a lot of the guys that he's inspired by, I think there's a part of a lot of dudes who there's a component of that where like, yeah, I like to smoke weed and like to, you know, talk about like, oh, fuck who shot JFK. I want to know who shot RFK. You know what I mean? Like, like that's, like, there, there's a part of that.

• 51:44Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 05

  Um, now I don't, I think all that is kind of gone and it's been replaced by.

• 51:48Amy Poehler?

  Well, I think it's always interesting, and this is men and women, I think we both share this, which is, I think it's very funny when people act like experts, super experts, and then go, hey.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  Hey man, I'm just a guy.

• 52:05Amy Poehler?

  I'm just a guy.

• 52:06Speaker 05

  I'm just a guy and I'm just a comedian.

• 52:07Amy Poehler?

  And it's like, no, no, no, you just told us about how to perform a heart transplant.

• 52:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. You own that now a little bit.

• 52:14Amy Poehler?

  But so you just said it.

• 52:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:16Amy Poehler?

  But now it's like, but you know what?

• 52:18Speaker 05

  Hey man, what do I know? I'm just a dumbass.

• 52:20Amy Poehler?

  I just got a lot of takes. And yeah, I'm just a dumbass. And I would say also with women, women are asked to also give tons of supportive advice and life advice in a way that if you missed it, you'd be like, well, I imagine they're a certified therapist, yes? And you look at them, you're like, oh no, they were, they used to own a gym.

• 52:43Speaker 05

  It is a golden age for those types of people in all fields. Like when you go onto your Instagram algorithm or TikTok algorithm, you just see people that are just like, I'm here to tell you that if you eat oatmeal, you will literally die. And like, they're so confident. You're like, I was gonna have a bowl of oatmeal, but let me, let me see what they're up to.

• 53:03Amy Poehler?

  I like the ones that are like, and by the way, I'm the biggest sucker for this too. I am the audience, but I like people that are like, top five ways to, you know, top five ways to forgive your partners. Like number one, take a moment and realize they didn't mean to do what they did. Number two, make a decision to forgive your partner. You're just like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you're listening. This is so good. And it's just, it's so circus level stuff. It's just so like, the only way to be happy is to choose to be happy and say to yourself, I'm a happy person. And you're like, yeah, yeah.

• 53:41Speaker 05

  Yes, you are right.

• 53:42Amy Poehler?

  So, but I'm, I am a sucker for, I love a list. I love a list.

• 53:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially workout stuff too. Like I'm like, oh, oh, this is tougher ways to like, to like do sit-ups without doing sit-ups? Yeah, sign me up. And then you see like, a doctor commenting being like, I'm actually a spine doctor. This will, you'll never walk again if you do this. You're like, okay, what do I do?

• 54:03Amy Poehler?

  But then you do research and the spine doctor is actually an actor who played a spine doctor on TV. And he, he added the word doctor. And if you look a little closer.

• 54:12Speaker 05

  His last name is Doctor.

• 54:13Amy Poehler?

  Yeah, it's spelled a little differently. John Doctor. And yeah, yeah. One of the things we're doing on Good Hang is we're just kind of like figuring out, you know, these conversations are an attempt to like feel fun and, and an escape from a lot of stuff. What do you do? Where do you go? What do you watch? Who do you listen to? What kind of video do you put on? What do you watch to laugh?

• 54:35Speaker 05

  One of the great things about having kids is you get to go back and you get to watch shows with them that you love. So, I have gone through Seinfeld with my kids and they loved Seinfeld.

• 54:47Amy Poehler?

  Really?

• 54:48Speaker 05

  They love.

• 54:49Amy Poehler?

  They do? Then what, who do they, they love everyone?

• 54:53Speaker 05

  They love everyone. They love JLD. They, they, they love Kramer. They love Kramer's stand-up. No, I'm joking. He's a maniac. They, but they, they just love the show. They love the show. And then we started the Mindy Project, which they were very into. They got into The Office. Our next on the docket is a little show called Parks and Rec, which is.

• 55:17Amy Poehler?

  They're gonna love it.

• 55:17Speaker 05

  They're going to like freak out about. So going back and watching those, like, like, watching three episodes of a sitcom that you have seen before, but you love very much is like Mother's Milk to me. Like it's so nice. It's so relaxing. It is, it is just, it just makes you laugh really hard and also just takes you back to that time. You know what I mean?

• 55:38Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 55:38Speaker 05

  Instantly go back to like 2012 and you're like, what a different world, what a different time. So those are the main ones, but I also like, I love when I see like a totally new thing. Like I loved, I love, you ever seen the movie Bottoms?

• 55:54Amy Poehler?

  Yes. So good.

• 55:55Speaker 05

  I I loved that movie.

• 55:57Amy Poehler?

  So good.

• 55:57Speaker 05

  It reminded me of one of my all time favorite comedies, a very big movie in our house, which happens to star one Amy Poehler, Hamlet Two. I'm not even kidding you is like, like it is a.

• 56:10Amy Poehler?

  Hamlet Two, check it out.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  Masterpiece. It is one of the funniest movies ever made. I've seen it dozens of times. It's what Eric and I's favorite is, we always tell people about it. Like, have you seen Hamlet Two? They're like, what?

• 56:21Amy Poehler?

  Steve Coogan, the great Steve Coogan.

• 56:23Speaker 05

  Literally one of the funniest men of all time and you and a bunch of high schoolers, Catherine Keener. Um, but Bottoms reminded me of that and it came out of nowhere. I'd never seen a lot of those people before. So when I see things like that. And then, um, you know, there's, there is TikTok. There is.

• 56:41Amy Poehler?

  You do watch it. Do you do TikTok?

• 56:43Speaker 05

  Watch TikTok. I do watch Instagram.

• 56:46Amy Poehler?

  TikTok person?

• 56:47Speaker 05

  Once I learn how to do it.

• 56:49Amy Poehler?

  Who do you like on TikTok or Instagram?

• 56:50Speaker 05

  Um, a lot of chefs, a lot of, a lot of chef work.

• 56:54Amy Poehler?

  Do you like all that macho chef stuff where the guy like cooks in the woods and the meat?

• 56:58Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, there's those guys, but then there's the guys that are like shirtless and they're like.

• 57:03Amy Poehler?

  Yeah.

• 57:03Speaker 05

  kneading dough and like putting their face in the dough like it's like a butt like and you're like.

• 57:07Amy Poehler?

  It's like too much.

• 57:08Speaker 05

  Too much, guys. You're turning him out a little too much.

• 57:09Amy Poehler?

  Yeah. Ike, I love you so much. Thank you for doing this.

• 57:12Speaker 05

  I can really say without a doubt, this was, you know what? It's a good hang.

• 57:16Amy Poehler?

  Oh, my God, it was a good hang.

• 57:18Speaker 05

  Fucking hang.

• 57:20Amy Poehler?

  Please just come back all the time.

• 57:21Speaker 05

  Let's do it tomorrow.

• 57:22Amy Poehler?

  All right, let's do it tomorrow. See you then.

• 57:23Speaker 05

  Fantastic.

• 57:25Amy Poehler?

  Thank you so much, Ike Barinholtz, Isaac Barinholtz, um, your legal name. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. I love you and you're so hilarious. And check out the studio, which is coming out soon or already out, depending on when this is out. But, um, I just want to end, um, by saying, you know, uh, when we do the polar plunge, we want to dip into something that changes the chemistry in our brain and makes us come alive. And I wore my Chicago Bulls sweatshirt today, but really at the end of the day, I'm a Celtics girl, grew up watching the Celtics and love them. And if you have not checked out the great documentary.

• 58:07Amy Poehler?

  It's Bird vs. Magic, about Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and their incredible friendship, rivalry, competitive relationship, whatever you want to call it, highly suggest. It's excellent storytelling and it's about the two greatest players ever, I know Michael Jordan. Okay, thank you so much for listening to Good Hang. We love that you're here and we'll catch you next time. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Aleah Zaniris.

• 58:52Amy Poehler?

  For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.