The Snack: Fat Bears, White House Media Ban, and the Iced Coffee Debate

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about: Kash Patel allowing bestiality in the FBI Fat Bear Week is here! Taylor Swift’s “That's my husband!” moment Taylor Frankie Paul leaving Mormon Wives The debate of “Is bringing an iced coffee to an interview unprofessional?” Ed Sheeran update and fallout White House media ban Headlines: Lena Dunham is a mom, MGK and Dakota Johnson may be dating, Channing Tatum’s burner account Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Hinge: Download the dating app designed to be deleted. Butcher Box: Get $20 off your first box and free shipping and choice of free steak in every box for a year at https://butcherbox.com/gge. ZBiotics: Get 15% off at https://zbiotics.com/gge with code GGE. Redken: Visit Ulta Beauty to Shop Redkin, Acidic, grow full system online and start building your healthiest looking hair routine. Goodwipes: Buy any two packs, text your receipt, and get reimbursed for one at https://goodwipes.com/gge. IM8: Get a free welcome kit, 5 travel sachets and 10% off your order at https://im8health.com/gge and use code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:02Rayna Greenberg?

  This week on The Snack, mics off at the White House, bestiality and an iced coffee debate.

• 0:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Look at us. We are here.

• 0:19Rayna Greenberg?

  We're doing it.

• 0:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do I look weird with a jacket on?

• 0:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Um.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I meant to ask you before we started recording.

• 0:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Do I look weird with these pajamas, these children's pajamas? I thought this was the cutest set and I feel like I'm a kid on Christmas morning.

• 0:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Be honest.

• 0:31Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the color. It's just too light.

• 0:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  It looks like a...

• 0:36Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I know. Listen, I was so excited about this and I just wanted to be cozy today and I was like, I don't feel appropriate on the streets of New York. Like, I don't know, I used to live here and run around in like workout clothes and it's...

• 0:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, a little LA comfy.

• 0:50Rayna Greenberg?

  It's too light.

• 0:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  This in black is not an issue.

• 0:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Listen, I will pretty much, you can wear anything on the streets and I would never shame you. Like, I think fashion is just whatever you want it to be. There's like no rules anymore.

• 0:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 0:59Rayna Greenberg?

  But that, that's a little...

• 1:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  We should keep it in the house.

• 1:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's, it's for the streets.

• 1:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, it's not pajamas. I, I love the top.

• 1:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you look great.

• 1:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I wore the top with like a black legging and that felt a little different than these gray pants.

• 1:16Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the pants. They're too smooth. I need like a rib on them or I need them to be looser or I need them to be tighter.

• 1:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Smooth.

• 1:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, I need them, I just, I feel like I'm gonna see your whole vagina line, but why wouldn't I see that?

• 1:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I...

• 1:28Rayna Greenberg?

  In a legging.

• 1:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  My lower half, these are not meant for it.

• 1:31Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what?

• 1:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  In the front and the back, I brought jeans for lunch. You know what?

• 1:34Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 1:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause I was like, I just don't know what like we're, I don't know if you're going, but I'm meeting Bobby for lunch.

• 1:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Where you going to lunch?

• 1:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 1:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Wow.

• 1:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I was like, are we getting like fast casual? Are we gonna, I don't know, go to the Smith? And I don't wanna, I just need to wear a jean.

• 1:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, um.

• 1:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  But to answer your question.

• 1:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you know what I like about this conversation is that I asked you a question about me and you were like, what I'm gonna do is talk about me and that's very me coded.

• 1:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm channeling you. Yeah, always bring it back to you in the most serious of moments.

• 1:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I like that jacket.

• 2:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, but I think you're gonna get a little hot in here under these lights.

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I am a little hot. Alright, well, I may throw a t-shirt on while you guys are watching. Who knows? Who's to say? Alright, well, we'll thank our partners and we'll get right into it. Thank you to Hinge. Download the dating app designed to be deleted. And ButcherBox, $20 off your first box and free shipping and your choice of a free steak in every box for a year at butcherbox.com/gge. And Zbiotics, get 15% off at zbiotics.com/gge with code GGE.

• 2:23Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 2:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm foaming at the mouth over this report today.

• 2:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, guys, we are gonna kick it off with an animal report and it may not be what you think.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I saw this headline come through. I literally like could not wait to talk about this. I am so excited. So, Cash Patel, the Crosshair Director of the FBI.

• 3:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 3:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Has, um, basically up until now, bestiality and basically sleeping with animals was an automatic...

• 3:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sleeping with, you're making it sound intimate.

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Fucking animals.

• 3:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Making love to animals.

• 3:17Rayna Greenberg?

  It was an automatic disqualifier to being in the FBI and he has now petitioned to lift that ban.

• 3:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, so he had a testimony in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee last Tuesday that, and he said that the new rules were put into place because, quote, "We did not want to punish victims of bestiality, victims who were trafficked." Can I just say, we all know this administration does not give a flying fuck about victims of trafficking.

• 3:46Rayna Greenberg?

  The number one trafficker is the President of the United States.

• 3:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you guys cared, you would do something about the abusers in the Epstein files, including the President. Just say you wanna fuck a goat. Just say you wanna fuck animals. Like, this is totally insane. And so the whole thing is like, they added this in or they removed it. What, bottom line is like, you could've just left it. And then he's in this hearing, which is the most insane back and forth you've ever seen with this old Republican Senator.

• 4:13Rayna Greenberg?

  So the, the transcript is available and it is honestly, it's insane. I truly could not believe what I was reading. So, he says what Ashley said and then Republican Senator John Kennedy says, "Why would you even get into bestiality?" And Patel responds, "We are not into bestiality." And then Kennedy says, "I know you're not, but you challenged the qualification. You mentioned bestiality." You're not telling us if a human had sex with an animal that they could still be an FBI agent.

• 4:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so then they go back and forth and he comes up with this trafficking response. Again, like, tell us without telling us, you wanna fuck a horse? So then the Senator, John Kennedy's like, "Did you come up with this, Cash?" And he said, "No."

• 4:53Rayna Greenberg?

  No, someone else did. Someone else said it. Well, his explanation was that somebody at the FBI showed him an unspecified case involving applicants who were forced into bestiality. And so apparently, apparently this is a real problem.

• 5:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so then John, this is, John Kennedy, is that his name? Like JFK?

• 5:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It is Robert Kennedy. John, sorry, I take it back. It's not RFK, it's John Kennedy, Republican Senator John Kennedy.

• 5:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which also RFK is totally fucked with animals too.

• 5:25Rayna Greenberg?

  At first I thought it was RFK and I was like, why is he against this?

• 5:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or no, he just like kills animals, he puts them in his car. I don't know, whatever he's got going on. So, he goes, "And when this person brought this to you, Cash, did you not say, what planet are you from?" Like, I hate nothing more than an old dusty Republican Senator, but really, he held his feet to the fire. Because he's like, what are we doing?

• 5:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Kash Patel was like really trying to do something. He was like, "I am gonna stand up for this disenfranchised, marginalized community and, you know, it's through zero faults of their own that they had sex with an animal. Whose fault was it?"

• 6:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what I gotta say? Why stop there? Cause we have pedophilia covered, now we have bestiality covered. What about necrophilia, dendrophilia, sex with trees? Agglomatophilia, which I just looked up, dolls and mannequins.

• 6:10Rayna Greenberg?

  What's, what about the one where you have sex with the ground, like in Saltburn?

• 6:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, that's gonna come up on my, on my Google search. It's giving necrophilia like trees on the ground, like nature. You get turned on by nature.

• 6:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Necrophilia is dead bodies, though.

• 6:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dendrophilia, sorry, sorry. Sex with trees.

• 6:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 6:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which sounds like dandelion. Like, this administration reign is so sick. Like, how about we all just have sex with consenting human adults? Is that so much to ask? Let's bring anything else into the mix. Like, if you were trafficked and you were forced to have sex with an animal and you've applied to the FBI and didn't get in because of it previously, please leave a comment. But I just don't think that's happened.

• 6:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, like, I guess there can be exceptions to rules and we can like cross that bridge when we come to it. Why have we used the precious time of our United States government? I mean, what else are they doing? But like, this needed to go to court and stop. No, like, let's cross that bridge when we get to it. Like, it's in the FBI bylaws. It's like, we could allow it, let's just worry about it when it happens. He also never explained what those circumstances look like, how many cases of this existed. He never provided evidence or examples citing privacy concerns. He was like, "It does happen, we just can't tell you about it."

• 7:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, and you know what the crazy part is that prior to 2016, maybe even if this happened in Trump 1.0, this would be the biggest headline because of how insane it is. Like, if James Comey had done this, you know what I mean? But this is just like another day. This didn't even make top headlines, I bet.

• 7:41Rayna Greenberg?

  If Democrats brought this to the floor.

• 7:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was niche.

• 7:44Rayna Greenberg?

  The Republicans would be carrying torches, like, "I can't believe we're wasting our time on this. This is just another day."

• 7:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have the Paul brothers going to the Pentagon. Like, this country is a clown show. Like, is Kash Patel not embarrassed?

• 7:56Rayna Greenberg?

  He's like, "I would like these words to come out of my mouth. I would like to bring this to the floor of the House and the Senate. I would like to say out loud in front of hundreds of people and the world, that bestiality should be a protected class."

• 8:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Kash Patel is totally incompetent, but he can't own it. Like, they're all so terrible. Pete Hegseth, when he speaks, he speaks with conviction. He's wrong. He's a horrible person. He's misogynist, racist, all the things. But Kash Patel can't own it. So it makes me think someone set him up. It makes me think someone saw an opening to be like, "Cash, I gotta tell you, there's all these trafficking victims that have been forced to have sex with animals and you need to bring this to the Senate."

• 8:35Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a work prank.

• 8:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's so, he's the person that would buy it.

• 8:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Remember that time that you thought that TV show, the fictional TV show was real?

• 8:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I forget what it was about.

• 8:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, it was about how we all have a soulmate in the world and there was a company that could find it for you and you thought that was real?

• 8:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was just really desperate to find someone at the time. I was just really on the hot.

• 8:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm not. Sometimes I think that I don't need romantic love the way that other people do.

• 8:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think that's great. It would be sad if you were like desperate to find someone and you felt like you couldn't. I mean, I think that you can, obviously, but like, if you were desperate to find love, you would've not broken up with the guy that was just really into you.

• 9:11Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, sometimes I just think like, why do I, I don't need anybody besides for sex. Cause I have you and Emily and Melanie.

• 9:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've been fucking you guys.

• 9:18Rayna Greenberg?

  No, she doesn't have sex with me, you guys, but if you did, that would totally neutralize my need for a partner.

• 9:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 9:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I never sit around at my house and think, you know, what makes this experience better is a man.

• 9:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And if you ever get horny, hit the zoo and join the FBI. Okay. So on a lighter note in our animal report, it is fat bear week.

• 9:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Hell yeah.

• 9:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  So fat bear week is a single elimination tournament where the public votes online for the fattest, most successful bear. This is in Canada. Sorry, sorry, Alaska, you guys. Let me be clear, Canada, Alaska, you know, get them all twisted up. Okay. So fatter bears have the best chance to survive winter hibernation. The bear with the most votes advances and then one winner is crowned fat bear week champion on Tuesday, September 29th. And you can go to explore.org to find all this and to vote. I think it's very funny that voters decide by comparing early and late summer photos of the bears. So it's based on how fat they got.

• 10:08Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the opposite of like American, like game shows that we had growing up, like the biggest loser.

• 10:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just like, how much weight can you gain? So you meet the bears, they're all on the website. The website looks like it's the Oregon trail. Honestly, this website has not been updated since 95 and I love that nostalgia. So there are.

• 10:23Rayna Greenberg?

  War plus prog.

• 10:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  You meet the bears and then you consider their life history, their unique challenges they face. There's a bio on each. And there are four categories, bear families, sub adults.

• 10:32Rayna Greenberg?

  What's that mean?

• 10:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Single teens, single adult females and adult males, which when I read these, it was a low key giving porn category. We have family, stuff family for you, sub, sub adults, subs.

• 10:44Rayna Greenberg?

  That's for Donald Trump and Epstein and all them.

• 10:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was thinking more submissive, not teens.

• 10:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I thought Matt.

• 10:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I said sub adult and I was like, oh, that's.

• 10:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  You were right, teens, but I'm thinking submissive adults.

• 10:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Also sexy.

• 10:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Single adult females. I just think it was funny. Okay. So I have a pick for us. I don't know if you checked them out, but there's really only one that spoke to me.

• 11:04Rayna Greenberg?

  These are like the categories, like best actor, best, best supporting actor.

• 11:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And then I think you vote from each category. Again, guys, it's a little confusing. I wish I understood this better, but just get in there. You'll explore literally on explore.org and then you'll vote. So I just wanted to give you guys our pick this year. It is a single female. She's number nine, 10. Again, some of them have names, some of them have numbers. It's confusing, but this is a large adult female who has dark brown fur, a prominent brow ridge and somewhat short forward pointing ears. Born in 2016, bear nine, 10 is the daughter of former fat bear week champion. So she's a legacy 409 bead nose, and then sister to 909. And just a little bit about her, she, this is where I really think it would speak to you. So she separated from that litter in late spring 2025. Since then, she's lived alone and has used the opportunity to fish wherever and whenever she wants.

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  She is me.

• 11:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying. She's like, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want.

• 11:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just gonna do me.

• 11:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And large and healthy female bears attract the desires of many males. So body fat is really what attracts the males. It's like the ability to nurse their newborn cubs. Nine, 10 looks well endowed. Her previous life experience, success and her skills in building fat give her the position to achieve even more life. So we have a single independent woman who loves to eat.

• 12:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Not on a zepic.

• 12:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yep. She loves salmon.

• 12:22Rayna Greenberg?

  She just wants to be alone.

• 12:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whatever she wants. So bear nine, 10, but I mean, you know, there's read about them and see which one speaks to you.

• 12:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Did you pick a family for us?

• 12:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, I just thought a single woman would be our, out of the whole, okay.

• 12:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree. No, I'm with you. I don't care about families.

• 12:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  But check out the family.

• 12:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm never gonna have one of those. I don't care about those.

• 12:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that's our animal report.

• 12:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's so delightful.

• 12:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, should we move into our Taylor report?

• 12:45Rayna Greenberg?

  We have a Taylor report.

• 12:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 12:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So Taylor Swift, I mean, she was obviously at the Chiefs game. She is on camera watching Travis Kelsey and she is yelling at his clip, that's my husband.

• 12:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't care about the Chiefs. What do you score? He pa, like whatever. She points at a ring.

• 13:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 13:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  The clip that went viral, again, this is really her first big sighting of the NFL season.

• 13:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I think he scored.

• 13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think he scored. Yeah.

• 13:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's just call that.

• 13:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she just like points at the ring and like mouths, that's my husband.

• 13:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it was very cute.

• 13:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  The cutest.

• 13:12Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the cutest. I mean, like.

• 13:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, it's so cute.

• 13:15Rayna Greenberg?

  If you're gonna hate on it, you just hate her.

• 13:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is fine.

• 13:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I actually was really surprised when I saw like a couple of people being like, the internet's divided about this. That's her man. She's proud of him. What I actually was like shocked and I'm, people just want a problem with everything. I thought it was so cute. And also look what she has been through. She's just like Joe Alwyn, what's that guy doing? Matt Healy, who just like fucked her over and just like strung her along. She, John Mayer, who is one of the more famous fuck boys in America, just fucked with everybody. And she gets her guy. She's happy. She's excited. She's just, I think it's the cutest thing. I couldn't believe people had a problem with it.

• 13:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Heck, yeah. I just saw some, I mean, people also just are probably just posting rage bait, but I just like, you know, make marriage cool again. But I liked her hair. Is she cutie cutted?

• 13:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It is a more definitive bob for sure.

• 13:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did we know this?

• 14:01Rayna Greenberg?

  She didn't communicate it with me.

• 14:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did I miss something? Like she's cut her hair since her wedding, right?

• 14:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 14:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I love this hair. She's wearing a tank top. It's from Erin Andrews brand, wear by EA, which I had never heard of. $40 tank top, sold out during the game. I thought it was very cute. It was very kind of Abercrombie in the nineties, early 2000s, like the cut and the style. I thought it was really cute and you know, good for her. And I'd be showing that ring off too.

• 14:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Taylor Frankie Paul, huge news.

• 14:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Huge news. She has announced in a rather wordy statement.

• 14:31Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, I thought I was having a stroke.

• 14:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I did.

• 14:33Rayna Greenberg?

  But I don't follow her. And then I went and read some of her other posts and like, yeah, it's just, it's a lot of words and you know, she's, she's letting it out. It's giving diary entry. I mean, she's just stream of consciousness, letting it go.

• 14:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So she announced that she will be leaving Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And so in the post, she kind of cycles through like accountability and victimhood and martyrhood and.

• 14:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Martyrhood? Martyrdom?

• 14:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Martyrdom.

• 14:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Martyrdom and reinvention. I mean, she just kind of changes her tone throughout this post saying like, I wanted to leave before and now I'm gonna go back to having left, but I was bullied, but this is the best thing for me. And it's just, she's sort of like, just goes back and forth. She's an interesting character because she both created the show, but she is destroying the show.

• 15:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is the take. There was no show without her. And there will never be another season like this. I mean, they'll do spinoffs and whatnot. I don't think it will ever reach this level of popularity. Also is the first season of it, but she needs to go for her own mental health. And then people that they don't want to film with her. And then Michaela came out last week and was like, this is why I'm, I'm leaving the show. I can't be on this show with her. And so you said, we'll see if it sticks. She's making a statement and would she go back on it? Would they let her back on? I have no idea. I mean, this is just really chaotic.

• 15:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I think they'll let her back on. I think she's like some great television and I'm guilty of it too, where I'm like, this person shouldn't be on TV, but I tune in to watch her. And I don't subscribe to some, sometimes she says, you know, I created all this. Of course I should be in charge of it. I'm, I created, I'm the leader. It's like.

• 16:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. But you're also the person that has made everybody not want to film, but she is the most famous person. She's the most chaotic. It's like, would people tune in without her? I don't know. I'm guilty of it too.

• 16:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, I guess you could test that by giving her a spinoff. Not that that's what should happen. She's unwell, but give her her own crazy spinoff. Give her a Rob and China, that show. So crazy.

• 16:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  What did she say in the car? She's, are you texting bitches?

• 16:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Texting bitches, like Rob and China was one of the most toxic shows.

• 16:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Where it was like, I don't know, this, this shouldn't, we shouldn't be watching this. And that's kind of what it's turned into.

• 16:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. And I mean, to me, there's a real, and I think we talked about this before, there's a real difference between like drama that feels like things that do happen every day in real life, like Weston, Amanda and Kyle and Summer House. And of course that's all horrible situation, but people break up and then they sleep with their, their spouse, ex spouse's friends. This does happen. It doesn't feel like a sick level of drama.

• 16:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 16:59Rayna Greenberg?

  The stuff with Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota, I mean, they're calling child protective services on each other. Her children aren't safe.

• 17:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think that's the thing for me.

• 17:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 17:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  If she didn't have kids, I'd be like, let her cook. I mean, obviously I care about people's mental health, of course, but I think that's the part that's like, lady, you gotta take care of your kids. This is just too much. Like we, everyone feels for the children involved in this. I saw another post because I was on her Instagram where she said she's celibate now. Ma'am. I'm sorry, maybe she is. I can't picture a world in which her and Dakota aren't fucking. I can't picture a world in which they are ever in the same vicinity. So I just thought that was interesting. And she just, you can tell the behavior because the way she responds back to comments and stuff, like she's just going through it. I, I don't know. Like someone like that needs treatment or medication and for their own sake.

• 17:47Rayna Greenberg?

  She eggs people on a line and then she says, I'm being bullied. And there was this situation like last week with like Leila and Miranda and her and Chase. And she did something that was a little provocative towards them and then they clapped back at her and she claims victim. And whatever it is, this person like does need help and should be like taken off the television. It's just, it's like enough. And if I was the other cast members in season five, all these women who have built really big followings on their own, their own businesses. If I was a facilitator to a storyline for five episodes about the same shit that we've been watching for the last four seasons, which is Taylor and Dakota, and no one focused on me or my business or my family or my marriage, I would be like, what am I doing here? Like if I'm Jesse, if I'm any of these other characters.

• 18:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, getting a paycheck, relaxing.

• 18:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm sure they had to film just as much time. I'm sure there was, there was cameras in their homes and true.

• 18:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, listen, I would collect a paycheck if I was just there to like hang out.

• 18:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 18:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  A bit of bullshit. Okay, let's just take a break and then we will pick it back up.

• 18:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I'm telling you guys about Hinge, which you know, Ashley and I always say is our favorite dating app. And what I love about it is just, it is the app that creates the most opportunities to facilitate conversation. I think it is nerve wracking for a lot of people to make a profile, to be the first person to message, to carry on a conversation, ask to be on a date, get off of the app. And so Hinge, I think is the app that does the best job of creating intentionality in dating and providing opportunities for you to create conversation. So there's all these prompts and I just wanted to like, give a couple of tips of like, what I think is really good on these profiles. I mean, I think anything that shows your personality, anything that like, shows a hobby that you specifically like to do. I think some people are trying to cast a wide net and, but if you're like, you're a vegan and you're really into that,

• 19:32Rayna Greenberg?

  or have any type of food, if there's a specific workout or activity you really love, post photos of yourself doing that. Like, give people something to talk about with you.

• 19:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 19:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I think that instead of answering the prompts in a more generalized way, if you can show that you're funny or sarcastic while keeping it really positive still, I think all of those are really good tips. And then obviously photos of just you in it and.

• 19:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  A good photo without sunglasses. You can have sunglasses on there if you want, but people see your real face in at least one photo, not, it doesn't need to be a headshot. But you know, people want to see what you look like and they want to see if you have kind eyes or not. No, I'm just kidding. Um, you know, they just want to see your whole face.

• 20:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Smile.

• 20:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 20:09Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, unless you don't like to smile and you're like, this is what you're getting.

• 20:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Unique. Yeah.

• 20:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. You're like, I don't do that. So if you are looking to meet somebody, check out Hinge, download the app that is designed to be deleted.

• 20:20Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 21:03Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 21:40Rayna Greenberg?

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• 22:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I want every day to be a good day for me. I want to be as energized and awake as possible. And I don't want it to, you know, curb into my social life. So I like to just drink a little bottle of it before I go out. They're a tiny, easy to, easy to take. And you can try it yourself today. And if you are unsatisfied, they will refund your entire order, no questions asked. Head to zbiotics.com/gge, code GGE for 15% off your first order. Zbiotics is a partner of ours.

• 22:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So we have a debate that is raging on the internet. This was started with a TikToker who called out Gen Z candidates in interviews. Now, it doesn't always have to be Gen Z, but I guess this is how it started. It can be anybody of any age.

• 23:06Rayna Greenberg?

  And a candidate, yeah.

• 23:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  More so Gen Z for arriving to interviews with iced coffee in hand. And she is a recruiter and she said, when you show up with an iced coffee or an iced latte, it's perceived from my opinion and a hiring standpoint, that this interview was just a stop on your list of errands for the day. It looks like you went to Target, went to Starbucks and now you're stopping by your interview before moving on to the next thing. And people push back and this debate raged online. I think most people are in agreement of that, but some people aren't.

• 23:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That you do not need to bring it.

• 23:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Rayna Greenberg?

  How do you feel?

• 23:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would love to start by saying that I love that a hot coffee isn't even in this debate as a hot coffee drinker. Because, oh, I kind of thought of it as just showing up with a beverage to an interview.

• 23:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, but I want to speak on it from being a hot coffee girl.

• 23:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 23:53Rayna Greenberg?

  If you brought a hot coffee, it would be better than a wet dripping cup. But us hot coffee drinkers would never, I just think we have more sophistication, professionalism. And not saying that iced coffee drinkers don't, but I just love how we're not even in the conversation. We would like to be excluded from this narrative.

• 24:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, I'm an iced coffee drinker and I have tons of professionalism and class. Um, I also don't put ice in my iced coffee if you guys are new here. So it's actually not. To me, I was thinking the sound of just an iced beverage, I don't love. That sounds a little too fucking casual to me. I don't like when people bring it into our studio.

• 24:30Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I'm also, again, I'm just like making jokes because I'm a hot coffee ass bitch. Showing up with a coffee at all is insane. It's exactly what she said. It's like, this is a casual part of your day. You didn't manage your time. Why didn't you have your coffee already? You would just stop and get it on the way to a job interview, a dripping cup with a straw. You're going to drink out of a straw at a job interview. Tell me you're drinking out of a straw at a job interview while this cup drips on what, your lap or a desk? Where are you going to put it? You haven't thought this through. Like there, it's just, it's deeper than that. I'm sorry. Because you know what you have on your person, what you're wearing, what you're holding when you walk into a job interview,

• 25:14Rayna Greenberg?

  if it means something to you. So you're thinking, I'm going to roll up in there and do what with this cup? And sip this straw in someone's face?

• 25:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  See, I totally agree. When I was 22, I worked at this job and Melanie and I were waitresses there. And my boss was this big giant Serbian guy and it was like a pretty serious restaurant. And she and I were, I don't know, probably drunk and laughing. And he came up to me and he said, you're a little too fucking comfortable. And I hear that in my head all the time. Like, it's not as deep as it's mean.

• 25:41Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not as mean as that, but I would never talk to somebody like that.

• 25:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're raised. But I, I do hear it in my head. You're a little too fucking comfortable. I just, I've, people are welcome to have a snack and a beverage before they walk into a building. I think that you should be able to get through an interview without needing to hydrate and no one's starving you.

• 25:57Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is like a little too sensitive. The people on the internet that are like, you should let people have drinks. People, people can get through an interview for 45 minutes without drinking.

• 26:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Listen, I'll push back. You can hydrate. Who has ever gone to a job interview and not been offered a water? Or if you actually said, do you have a water?

• 26:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You should be offered the beverage in the building.

• 26:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But this isn't about hydration. Stop it. This is not about hydration. That's not what coffee's for. I'm just saying like, I understand if you're going to talk for an hour, you can have a water. You don't need to bring your iced coffee. Like, I don't even think hydration is in the conversation.

• 26:30Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a whole different thing.

• 26:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm telling you the comments that I read, people being like, people should be allowed to hydrate.

• 26:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's a terrible argument. Also.

• 26:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Someone else, someone called this ableism.

• 26:40Rayna Greenberg?

  No, the arguments are crazy. And the people that were actually disabled were like, do not say this is ableism, that you need to have your iced coffee at a job interview.

• 26:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, by the way, it's the smelliest of the beverages. It makes your breath smell. It does smell. You don't need, I want to go to an interview smelling perfect.

• 26:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not dripping.

• 26:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Coffee breath.

• 26:59Rayna Greenberg?

  In a room.

• 27:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just like, you look casual, a little too fucking comfortable. And if that's how you want to treat a job interview, you better hope that potential future employer feels the same way. And they probably don't. And I, so like one of, I saw that one, one Gen Z TikToker explained, the fight isn't about lattes, but about rejecting arbitrary standards of professionalism, which I just like, don't agree with at all. Like, we hire people. I would, I would not stand for this. Dress for the job you want. It doesn't include a cold brew. Get out of here.

• 27:27Rayna Greenberg?

  If somebody showed up to an interview, I was thinking this, somebody showed up for an interview, you and I, and they like had their little coffee, even on a Zoom interview, I wouldn't like it. And it wouldn't be something I would be like texting you about, being like, can you believe this? I would just be like, huh, it's a little comfortable for my, for me.

• 27:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  It just looks like, again, you just, this was a stop on your day. So I want to read a couple of my favorite threads. This one says, "Go ahead and bring that iced coffee to a job interview. Eat a cheeseburger at a doctor's appointment. Show up to court with a bowl of ice cream. Why shouldn't you have everything you want at exactly the moment you want it? And that's the problem. Have some fucking restraint." This says, "When did professionalism become oppression? Why does everything have to be casual? The iced coffee discourse is insane. It's unprofessional. As a head of talent acquisition and recruiter for Fortune 10 companies for over 20 years, I've watched professionalism decline in real time. We were watching basic standards become controversial." And then this one, "Don't stop at iced coffee. Take powdered donuts, Nature Valley granola bars, seafood boils and tacos to your interviews too. You've got this, Gen Z."

• 28:24Rayna Greenberg?

  You just, you don't have to. And again, you can have a water and you can bring a water. Like if I brought my tote bag to a job interview and I might, I'm gonna talk for an hour potentially. I might get a little parched. I would bring my water bottle out of my bag if I hadn't been offered a water. Hydration is allowed.

• 28:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sure.

• 28:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Coffee, do better.

• 28:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, like, we can't have a problem with everything all the time. Like, there aren't just some standards to society that we, can we just, like, adhere to them? Like, just, we don't need to be bringing a loud, smelly, sweating beverage into an interview.

• 28:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Someone said a cond- condensation cup.

• 29:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's the straw for me. Can you picture it sipping from a straw in a job interview?

• 29:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, certainly not if it was a man. If I watched a man sip with a straw in an interview, oh my god. So let us know what you guys think, but if you think you should do that, you're wrong. You can't work here. You can work somewhere else.

• 29:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we are hiring.

• 29:23Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's not gonna be you.

• 29:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 29:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I was interviewing, when I used to work for Union Square Cafe for Danny Meyer, I was interviewing people for, like, hostess positions. And somebody emailed me and asked what the address of the building was, and I just never wrote back. I was like, you can't work here.

• 29:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because it's about you, your ability to figure things out on your own and problem solve.

• 29:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, this was while the internet existed. I know this was a while ago, but the internet was alive and kicking.

• 29:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  And to me, when we are interviewing candidates, I am thinking about the way their brains work and how they function through the-

• 29:58Rayna Greenberg?

  You're not a problem solver.

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Their thought process. So the thought process of I'm heading to interview with Girls Gotta Eat, let me grab my iced coffee on the way and bring it, is not the thought process I wanna hire. And you could be a great employee, you could do the job. But that's what I'm thinking about if I'm the employer.

• 30:16Rayna Greenberg?

  If somebody showed up to ours with iced coffee, I would be like, they think that we're friends. And I do wanna be, like, friends with all you, especially Ashley really wants to be friends with all of you. But I don't wanna hire one of our besties. I wanna hire somebody that's gonna keep us in line.

• 30:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you get the job, you can bring your iced coffee to work every day.

• 30:32Rayna Greenberg?

  365.

• 30:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every single day after that.

• 30:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Every day of your life.

• 30:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just the fucking interview.

• 30:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, that's it. Okay.

• 30:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we just wanted to give an update on this Ed Sheeran controversy, Macklemore. We talked about it last week. So right after we recorded last week, news broke that Ed Sheeran's openers and his band quit the tour in solidarity with Macklemore and of course, the opposition censorship, the way the situation was handled. So I just wanna say that I was kind of a part of this drama and like the fallout from it. I went to Dermot Kennedy this past weekend in Boston. So exciting, life-changing concert, guys, I can't recommend enough. Like, I just, that's like my favorite artist outside of Beyonce. I just, I feel like my heart was, like, breaking and bursting at the same time. It was so great. If you have a chance to see him, you should. So two days before the concert, we get a notification, the concert time has been moved from 8 to 7:30.

• 31:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 31:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Moved up. I find that interesting, don't you? It's moved up a half hour. And I didn't really think much of it, but Alyssa, we went to the concert with Alyssa Amoroso, our friend and her husband Sean. And she looked it up and she saw that they had added an opener, and that's why it went 30 minutes earlier. So in addition to the one opener they had, they had added this other opener, this Irish singer-songwriter named Aaron Rowe.

• 31:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 31:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because he had left Ed Sheeran's tour. So the night that we saw him, that was the night in Philly that we're gonna talk about, so he was not on Ed Sheeran's tour. So Dermot Kennedy brought him on to his tour.

• 31:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Wow.

• 31:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I could cry thinking about this. Like, I don't know what went down. Obviously, these are all Irish performers. So like, maybe wanted to make sure he, you know, had a job or made some more money since he's quitting this tour. And Aaron Rowe, we loved him, we loved his energy, he was incredible, just really no fucks kinda attitude. And I saw his statement when he left Ed Sheeran's tour. It was nice. It was like professional and kind, but like, I'm gonna do this and stand in solidarity with what's happening. And I just think that was crazy. And like Alyssa and I were like, we're in the drama. Like, we're part of this fallout. And it was cool to see that that really happened. So that was happening on our end in Boston. And meanwhile, Ed Sheeran was making a statement at his show in Philly.

• 32:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Crazy to pay to see Ed Sheeran at the link, but you know, that's you, do you, you guys. And he opened the show with this apology, essentially. And we're gonna discuss it. I don't wanna spend too, too much time on it. I know it's juicy. I know it's a big news item right now. You know, part of me just doesn't wanna contribute to this problem of holding musical artists more accountable than the billionaire who started this shit in the first place, who's the real villain, our politicians, our administration. Like, his statement was what I expected. I knew he would not please everybody. I think that he said some worthy things. I think it also felt a little self-centered and inauthentic at times.

• 33:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, people also felt like this arrived. You were, he was very, like, up the middle before, I'm not political. And then everybody quit, and this affected ticket sales.

• 33:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he's, yeah, maybe, but I'm not certain of all the statistic on the ticket sales. The stadium was full, I guess. But a few things, like, later in the show, he kinda apologized for the apology. He didn't walk it back, but he was like, I just wanna apologize for earlier. And I saw a comment that said, when you apologize for the apology, you neutralize the apology. He said it was the best show of his life. Oh, okay, after your whole band and all your openers quit, best show of your life. He said his family and friends abandoned him, which is rough, you know, no matter what you're canceled for, that is rough if your family abandons you. But, you know, he did this whole kinda woe is me thing at the end. But I wanted to talk to you about the teleprompter of it all. And I really wanna hear your thoughts on this because he was reading off a teleprompter that was more at his feet. Obviously, it couldn't have been in the back because everyone would have seen it and read it.

• 34:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it was clear he was looking down and he was reading the teleprompter at his feet. And I wanna talk to you about this because this has been a real critique that I've seen.

• 34:11Rayna Greenberg?

  That people were upset that he was reading off a teleprompter.

• 34:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, upset or just throwing shade, yeah, I guess, and upset, so.

• 34:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't hate it as much as other people hated it. And the reason why, I think this is just really touchy. And I think that he's already stepped on so many landmines. And I'm glad you acknowledge, I mean, I'm not on his side, but I'm glad you acknowledge, like, Robert Kraft and other people are also to blame here.

• 34:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he handled it terribly, by the way. I'm not defending it, handled so crazy poorly.

• 34:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And he really just was like very wishy-washy and said, my promoter made me do this. I mean, he really, just, he made all the wrong mistakes. So I do understand feeling like there are so many landmines and I wanna get this right and I wanna show that this matters to me. And so I can't memorize this long speech. I wrote something and I wanna read it to you. I don't think it's that crazy that he wrote off of a teleprompter.

• 35:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a speech that needs to be read. You are talking about Gaza. You are in the thick of this controversy. People are gonna dissect every word. I would never raw dog this shit. I would never. But what I would do is I would say, I'm going to read this because I wanna get it right.

• 35:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Sure.

• 35:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, you know, I might have pulled out a piece of paper to make it seem more authentic. Like, I might have been like, I wanna read this because I wanna make sure I don't get it wrong and it's very important to me. At least, I think, addressing it would have been the better move. Again, they're doing everything wrong.

• 35:31Rayna Greenberg?

  You're so right.

• 35:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would have read that word for word. I would have practiced it, so it would have felt more natural to me, but I really would have wanted that.

• 35:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You're so right. I think he should have said, like, what has happened up until now is really disheartening and it's affecting a lot of people. And I wanna get this right. And there is only one shot for it. I mean, you and I went to a late night monologue recently and it was long. And so the person that was doing the monologue paused and restarted and paused, and then it's edited together. We went to like a 4:00 PM taping of something that was gonna air at 11:00 PM. So, I mean, you get a lot of shots at this. This is live.

• 36:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  By the way, he wrote that and had practiced it a million times and still read it off the teleprompter.

• 36:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 36:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's crazy to have demanded that he memorize something that is so touchy and in general, you know?

• 36:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, it couldn't have been me. I would have needed to read it from something. I think you're right. I think a woman would have thought, let's have it on a piece of paper, let's acknowledge this.

• 36:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would have whipped out a piece of paper. It would have felt more authentic. So people's critique are like, he was reading a prepared statement from his PR company off a teleprompter. You might be right, but I'm not mad at the teleprompter. And if that's your main critique, then, I don't know, I think you should do better at criticizing him because there's plenty to criticize. And I didn't like how, did you watch, as soon as he finished his speech, he was like, now we're gonna do these songs. He was like, now watch this drive. Like, it literally was so cringe. And then the way it was all handled, like, was such a disaster, all of it. Like, I'm not in defense of it, but I'm not gonna get mad about the teleprompter.

• 36:54Rayna Greenberg?

  No, me too. All the things to get mad about, that's not one of them.

• 36:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, that is that. And we are just gonna take a quick break and then talk about more censorship while we're here. Okay, so I am gonna tell you guys about Redken Acidic Grow Full System. I am so excited to talk about this today. I'm always excited to talk about my hair and my hair journey that I'm always on. And we all know your hair affects the way that you feel about yourself, your confidence. I feel like however my hair looks, that's how I'm gonna feel that day. It's not my best day today, but you know, it could be worse. So we just feel like the difference between a good hair day and a bad one, it can just really throw you off. So the Redken Acidic Full Grow System is something I have been using recently and really love. I've always loved Redken, this whole system. So we have a shampoo, a conditioner, the instant densifying spray, and the scalp serum.

• 37:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I've mentioned this before, my issue has been dealing with thinning, shedding, and breakage that can really just make your hair look and feel thinner, which is frustrating. It's just really impacted the way my hair has looked all the way around. So when I found this, I was so excited to use it. And I'm telling you that it really reduces the breakage. It makes your hair look and feel stronger immediately. Raina's used it. Raina loves it.

• 38:01Rayna Greenberg?

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• 38:10Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 38:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, me too.

• 38:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Of course, the product inside is what it's about. So I've incorporated this full system in my routine. Again, the densifying shampoo, conditioner, a hair and scalp serum, and instant densifying spray. I felt like right when I first started using it- I feel like that fullness, that thicker looking hair and healthy feeling scalp. We talked about this recently on an episode that we did about skin and hair, how much your scalp health really matters when it comes to your hair health, of course, and how your hair looks and feels. So we just love this so much and you guys can check it out too. You can visit Alta Beauty to shop Redken Acidic Grow Full System online and start building your healthiest looking hair routine.

• 38:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And I'm telling you guys about ButcherBox. I am pretty picky about proteins. Like sometimes I just will opt to not cook one because I'm just like, I can't like trust the quality of this. So I'm loving ButcherBox. Ash and I both have gotten big deliveries from them and there's so much to choose from. ButcherBox delivers 100% grass-fed beef, organic chicken, wild-caught seafood and more, all sourced to standards they can actually tell you about. They've already done the research and made the tough sourcing decisions. So all you have to do is decide what's for dinner. So I love that this is just like in my fridge. Like I mentioned, there's a multiple cuts of steak. So there's strip and filet, which is what I have. There's multiple kinds of salmon that you can get. There's chicken and I just like that like when I am home, like off the road, there's just like food in my fridge and I can pull it out. I know it'll be good. I know it'll be high quality. And there's ground beef. You can make like great burgers with

• 39:27Rayna Greenberg?

  that. And it just stops me from like ordering takeout or having to take a trip to the store. I just like like opening the fridge and it's there. It's delivered to you. It's easy and it's really, really high quality.

• 39:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're obsessed. We eat it all the time. Chicken can be weird. I say it all the time. The chicken is amazing. The ground beef. You've had the burgers. We've had the bacon. We've had the salmon. The bears with bear 910. So we're just obsessed, obsessed with you guys.

• 39:50Rayna Greenberg?

  So if you're looking for an easier way to get meals on the table, give ButcherBox a try. Go to butcherbox.com/gge to get $20 off your first box, plus your choice of free ribeye, New York strip, or filet mignon in every box for a year with free shipping always. That's butcherbox.com/gge. Again, that's butcherbox.com/gge and be sure to use our links so they know that we sent you.

• 40:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And I'm telling you guys about IMA. This is a great way to simplify your supplement routine once and for all. 16 supplements replace 90 ingredients across nine major organ systems, all in one drink. So if you really don't want to take a bunch of supplements, but you want to get to get all those nutrients and really just feel your best, this is the way to do it. Again, IMA's Daily Ultimate Essentials has those 16 supplements in one drink for $2.60 a day. So most of us can afford that. And to really do something nice for your health, this was co-founded by David Beckham and built by leading doctors and researchers. IMA was designed by the world's best. 95% of people who tried it for 12 weeks felt more energy. That's like the most important thing. We just hate feeling sluggish, that afternoon slump you get. And so that's going to help you feel much more energetic. And that is from a clinical trial conducted by the San Francisco Research Institute. So I just love this. Again, these

• 40:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  little sachets and you just rip them open and throw them in a glass of water. I love a really ice cold water and drink that. It tastes good and you're going to feel good. So check it out, you guys, and just save time and save space in your cabinet without having all those supplements. You can go to im8health.com/gge right now, or click on the link in our episode description and use code GGE for a free welcome kit, five free travel sachets, plus 10% off your order. That's code GGE at im8health.com/gge. Code GGE at im8health.com/gge. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

• 41:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And in other news, the world's biggest baby, Donald Trump, has banned multiple news organizations from the White House, CNN, MSN Now, and Politico reporters. They were all denied access to the White House. Following his ban, they are suing him, as they should. And I actually can't believe what major TV networks actually decided to stand with CNN and decline to replace its White House pool crew, including Fox News.

• 41:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Couldn't believe it.

• 41:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So they're all banning together because this should be everyone's goal. I'm sorry. Even the Fox News propaganda machine should be like, free speech includes having these outlets hold our administration accountable and be at the White House. I don't trust them, but you know, who can you trust these days? But like, everyone really has come together on this, of course.

• 42:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is insane.

• 42:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like, you know, it's just like, what else is there to say about this? It's horrifying. It should be totally illegal. I can't believe that the Supreme Court didn't strike this down in an hour. Like, how are we days into this? This is still happening. You can't deny press access. And there is no, you know, there's freedom of the press. There's no precedent that says like, precedent? Whatever. Don't worry about it. That says that you must allow press access to the White House. I guess if you want to get into semantics, but this feels wholly unconstitutional and sick and crazy. And you know, what people voted for. So.

• 42:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So then, at a White House event, yesterday as we record, Trump is out there talking about a helipad, I believe, whatever. There's no press pull. So there's no mics. So he's screaming into the abyss. These videos right now, I can't, they're my porn category. I can't stop watching them. So he's just screaming and no audio is getting picked up. So even news outlets trying to air it are like, we can't hear him. He's just yelling into the void. Like, I'm obsessed with him not understanding how this works. If there's no mics, there's no sound. It's unbelievable.

• 43:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It was a good day. It was a good day yesterday after all of this, which is just so obviously devastating, but not surprising. And so sad for our country and our democracy to see that, to see this fucking idiot yelling into the abyss, no audio, inaudible, mics are off.

• 43:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ashley, did you see the clips of him and Mom Donnie yesterday? And Mom Donnie is standing there just disassociating. At first I saw them on screen together and I was like pissed. I was like, I cannot believe that he's going to stand there next to Donald Trump.

• 43:55Rayna Greenberg?

  He's strategic. He knows what he's doing.

• 43:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he literally just stood there.

• 43:58Rayna Greenberg?

  He just associated totally, like, strongest man alive, while Trump just ranted and rambled.

• 44:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that's happening and this is a developing story, but we like to see it. These, it's these news organizations should stand together when it comes to this of all things. And just on this note, James Talarico, so this is going to be the one of the most watched Senate races of the midterms. He is running against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who has faced 10 to 20 years of corruption, impeachment, criminal indictments. Ken Paxton is a total criminal. He has 15 homes, real man of the people. His own staff reported into the FBI. Like his, it's his, like rap sheet is insane. So James Talarico, he might be my, my new crush. I gotta say that. I don't know. He's got this sexy voice. It was like calming demeanor. He was going on Kimmel and the FCC

• 44:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  basically threatened them that they couldn't air it. And it has to do with like equal time for both parties. But this is all, this wouldn't have happened outside of a Trump presidency. And they're not having Ken Paxton on Kimmel. He wouldn't go on in the first place. Also, late night TV shows have usually been excluded out of this equal time. Bottom line, if you want to get into it, you can read up yourself. But because of FCC threats, the James Talarico interview wasn't aired on Kimmel, so they put it on YouTube. It's currently at 13 million views and it's incredible. There's no reason for it to be banned other than, like, this isn't controversial. I mean, he's talking about the corruption, the theft of his opponent, people in Texas being sick and tired of being taken advantage of. He talks about the fallacy, the welfare queen, Elon Musk. And what would Jesus do? You can't love Jesus and hate your neighbor.

• 45:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So he is a Christian man and he really has become a popular political force in Texas and I'm just really rooting for him. So we will be watching that one really closely. And he's, it's a grassroots movement. It's very Mom Donnie coded and I'm just excited to see it. But it's, it's just crazy. You know, I told you, like, pull up this interview and just watch the first three minutes where they talk about why this couldn't air on Kimmel. And it's unbelievable. So anyway, go James.

• 46:01Rayna Greenberg?

  We're going to take you guys through your headlines and then we're going to send you off into your weekend. Lena Dunham welcomed her first baby with her husband. She wrote a lot about, she has a hysterectomy and she wrote a lot in her book about how she couldn't conceive. And she talks about wanting to be a mother. And then she had a hysterectomy and wasn't sure if she would ever be able to be a parent. She welcomed her first baby with her husband via surrogate. So congrats.

• 46:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Congrats to her. Congrats Lena.

• 46:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Onto the next, Machine Gun Kelly and Dakota Johnson might be a thing.

• 46:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  How do you feel? You're a huge MGK stan.

• 46:31Rayna Greenberg?

  He's my number one Spotify.

• 46:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  But is he like a celeb crush?

• 46:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I think so. But I'm sort of in the middle.

• 46:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you a little jealous?

• 46:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm very jealous. I'm sexually attracted to him. I don't think he'd be a fun hang.

• 46:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Shots fired.

• 46:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't, I just can't imagine him and I would like have much fun together. I just, I'm not, I don't know.

• 46:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you don't want to like suck each other's blood and stuff?

• 46:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. It's kind of like that. Dakota Johnson is everywhere. And I was like, why is she, she's literally on the cover of everything. She's every like magazine. And then I realized Verity comes out on October 2nd. So next week, Verity, next Friday. I'm so excited. I'm so sad I can't go with you. I'm like devastated.

• 47:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am, I am so, so sad. Shashank wants to go for Anne Hathaway and Anne Hathaway only. And you know, it's his number one. So that will be our third Anne Hathaway movie that I've seen with him this year.

• 47:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I've seen an Anne Hathaway movie with him.

• 47:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  How have I been to the three movies with my husband in a year, all with Anne Hathaway? That's kind of wild.

• 47:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I'm not there anymore.

• 47:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. But Devil Wears Prodigy, Odyssey, and then this, but we cannot fucking wait.

• 47:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just so excited. It looks so scary. It's a Colin Hoover book. It's the second book I ever read. Okay. And lastly, Channing Tatum does not have a burner account, wink, wink. I'm obsessed with this story. So people discovered this burner account, Nonya Business, Business Nonya. Channing Tatum follows this burner, but also it, the burner account was trolling his exes and hyping him insane. So people took this and ran with it. And he has since come out and posted a public statement on his story that was like, yo, this isn't me. Fucking hilarious. You guys thought it was. I have better stuff to do with my time. Um, now we know it is you.

• 48:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you? Do you have better stuff to do with your time?

• 48:16Rayna Greenberg?

  It's definitely your account. You accidentally followed it. Okay. We know you did. If it was a woman, she would have never done this by accident. But it, this is a man trying to, I, the, I have better things to do with my time excuse is so funny. What's Channing Tatum doing?

• 48:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. So it's crazy though, you guys, because he's like trolling, like what Zoe Kravitz and like her new man and like Jenna Dewan's new man. Like, it's all of the things that you would do. But okay, I just want to say, I want to be, I want to be real with you. Okay. Deep down in my heart of hearts, I guess it's not him, but he knows what that account is up to and he supports it. So if there was an account that all they were doing was hyping me and trolling my exes, I might follow it too. And that's all I have to say. Like, either way, if it's not him, he's on board with it and he didn't say he wasn't. So let us know what you guys think in the comments. I'm good with either theory, but like, he supports Nonya Business.

• 49:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. At least, because like when you go to Nonya Business and that you see that like he's in the follows, like you also might follow.

• 49:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  He follows a lot of people, by the way.

• 49:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Not us.

• 49:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I think we could work on it. He follows like Hannah and Nikki and Mary Beth. And he follows a lot of female comedians is what I noticed. I liked. He follows like 8,000 people.

• 49:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my God.

• 49:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. It's not that hard to get a follow.

• 49:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Just be tossing out follows. Do you think that that's, that's misdirection? Do you think that he followed 8,000 people so that people would be like?

• 49:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wouldn't notice.

• 49:39Rayna Greenberg?

  He might be following other burner accounts. I'm assuming he saw a comment that he liked of Nonya Business on like Harry Styles or Zoe or Jenna. I'm sure he saw that and he liked it and followed them. Cause he, he does be giving out follows like that.

• 49:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's a fire roast.

• 49:55Rayna Greenberg?

  But all I have to say is Jenna Dewan is on Dancing with the Stars and Channing Tatum's trolling with the burner account. So women stay winning.

• 50:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Amen. All right. Well, that is your snack for the week, guys.

• 50:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Girlsgotye.com, Girlsgotypodcast Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina is Rayna Greenberg, rainagreenberg.com for her tour tickets. You can watch full video on Spotify and YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we are so excited to see you guys on Monday.

• 50:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 50:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Bye.

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