The Snack: Diddy Doc, Breakup Bombshells, and Fake Peace Prize

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Who was in the VIP suite at the Eagles game Breakups: Alexa and Brennon from Love is Blind, Alix Earle and Braxton Ashley's marital status controversy Breaking down the D*ddy documentary Headlines: Pantone rage bait, Fake FIFA Peace Prize, Golden Globe noms, and reality TV updates Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/gge. Aura Frames: Get $35 off the bestselling Carver Mat frame at https://auraframes.com/gge with code GGE. ZBiotics: Get 15% off your first order at zbiotics.com/gge with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Rayna Greenberg?

  This week on the snack, the Diddy Doc and breakup bombshells.

• 0:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi guys.

• 0:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hello.

• 0:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys, we're so excited. We're two days away from our New York holiday show.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Two days out. Getting so pumped for everything we have planned. It's really happening.

• 0:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I still don't have outfits.

• 0:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you know, you said I could choose my color.

• 0:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I regret it every day. Like a month ago, you were like, what are you gonna wear? And I was like, I can't speak of this right now. Like, I'm too stressed out and we'll see.

• 0:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  You have three other color palettes.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I have, I do have gold coming. I have a red.

• 0:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, you got some stuff coming.

• 0:40Rayna Greenberg?

  But anyways, we have the best show planned, you guys. We still have some tickets available. So bring your friends, bring your partner, bring your parents, come by yourself, make friends. It is the most fun show that we do all year. It's a Saturday night, New York City, just dress up, party. It's gonna be a great night.

• 0:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have some really special guests. We have some stuff planned we've never done before. Former guests will be there and we know you guys have been dying to see Raina's officiation of my wedding. And this could be your opportunity. It could be a world premiere on the big screen.

• 1:17Rayna Greenberg?

  So we have a lot of never before seen things.

• 1:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really, I'm so excited.

• 1:21Rayna Greenberg?

  So it is just our favorite night. Most people tell us they come year after year. And we have so many people that say like, this is my eighth time coming. It's really such an honor and we just do it bigger and better every single year. I'm really excited.

• 1:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so get those tickets, girlsgottaeat.com and we will see you this Saturday night in Brooklyn, baby.

• 1:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and tune in Monday. I have a big announcement on Monday.

• 1:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:42Rayna Greenberg?

  And we'll tune in Monday anyways.

• 1:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think you'll announce it at the show?

• 1:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I am gonna announce it at the show.

• 1:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, come to the show to get that announcement.

• 1:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, okay. Well, we have a great episode for you guys. Lots going on this week.

• 1:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  What should we start with?

• 1:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Our partners.

• 2:00Rayna Greenberg?

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• 2:07Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 2:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Those are the worst hangovers that I have.

• 2:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  What is going on?

• 2:33Rayna Greenberg?

  We didn't get to talk about it last week because it had already come out, but we recorded and then Spotify wrapped, came out. We went to the Spotify wrap party in LA. It was so fun. It was such a good time. We ran into like all these former guests of the show, like Mark Manson and Morgan Absher. And it was really fun. I had two drinks and I was like banged up the next day.

• 2:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I never know what my body's gonna do.

• 2:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know.

• 2:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It just depends on what it is. But last night I went to the Eagles game, Eagles versus Chargers. Just a stunning heartbreak of a game to lose in overtime with an interception in the end zone. Like, we were all stunned. I mean, Jason, Kelsey, Hannah Einbender, and like Rob Mack. Like, we were all stunned, Raina. Like...

• 3:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I tell you what, I could lose, I could watch anybody lose from box seats at SoFi with Jason Kelsey.

• 3:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, okay, so I just want to tell you, like, this is one of my greatest accomplishments to date. I was invited by the Eagles, by the Eagles marketing. Yeah, so a shout out to Kelsey, who works for the Eagles, fan of the show, not Jason, a woman named Kelsey. Yeah, so just wanted to give her a shout out. She helped facilitate that. So they invited me to go be in the suite at SoFi for the Chargers game. And they just, they do this in certain markets where they have a lot of fans, which LA, of course, there's Eagles fans everywhere, but they might not do this in every single city where they have a suite and there's all these VIPs in there. So I just want to tell you who was in there. So we walk in, I brought Shashank, and because we are, we watch, I think we've watched like every Eagles game together, our whole relationship. Like, he's a fan now,

• 4:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  whatever. So he deserved to be there. So we walk in, we see Rob Mack from Always Sunny, who recently announced- Eagles game like he's just a big Philly guy. Um, obviously always sunny in Philadelphia. And then there were some former Eagles players, LaGarrett Blunt, Darren Sproles and Emmanuel Acho, who I know him outside of his football career. I started following him in 2020. He was doing a lot of stuff during like the BLM movement and uh, he did a thing called uncomfortable conversations where he talked to different people. You know this guy.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah, I know.

• 4:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. So I saw him when I walked in and then who, oh, Charles Melton from Riverdale. Do you know who this is? This gorgeous? I don't watch Riverdale either.

• 4:41Rayna Greenberg?

  We're not talking enough about Jason, Jason Kelsey.

• 4:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I mean, I'm going in order. Cause we got there right at kickoff, then Ryan Felipe enters.

• 4:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, we drive past?

• 4:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Don't say this, I'll tell you.

• 4:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so Ryan Felipe is from Delaware.

• 4:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 4:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just me, him and Joe Biden.

• 4:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 5:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so he comes in in a Dewey Beer Co hat.

• 5:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a Dewey Beer Co hat.

• 5:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And so I, and my brother has met him before. He's done stuff at Starbird, but I, you know, he came in, he was very nice. He introduced himself and I was like, I'm a Dewey girl. And we chatted a little bit about Delaware stuff. And then.

• 5:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Crazy situation.

• 5:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then I tell Shashank, I'm like, you know who I would expect to be here is Hannah Einbender from Hacks.

• 5:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Go Birds, Fuck Ice.

• 5:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, Fuck Ice, Go Birds, Free Palestine. I think about her Emmy acceptance speech a lot. And I check her story. She's there. She's just like on the lower level. She's there, I think with her dad. Next thing I know, she walks in the suite. They obviously saw she was there. They went down and got her. They were like, we need all the VIPs. And then so I'm like, how could this get much better? And Shashank goes, Jason Kelsey just walked in.

• 5:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I would lose my mind. I would lose my mind.

• 5:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Taylor Swift's.

• 5:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Was Kylie there?

• 5:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Future brother in law. No, Jason, Jason, I think was doing something, maybe a post game. He was in a suit, but he was drinking.

• 5:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, they have 19 kids. Someone has to watch them.

• 5:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but we, I introduced myself and was like lifelong Eagles fan and we chatted with him. He was super nice and I wanted to get a photo with him. Just honestly, my idea was to put it on my story like I did and be like, girls gotta eat New Heights collab, whatever. We've talked about Kylie and, but I was like, I don't like to do that. Like I'm in here too. Like you don't want to ask people for photos.

• 6:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 6:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want to want it for my brother. It's a shock. No, I wanted one. So when I walked away to go talk to some of the people from the Eagles, like he asked him, he was like, can my wife get a picture with you?

• 6:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I love when people's partners do that. I love it.

• 6:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I then in that moment realized that he is one of those partners because this happens to us a lot, which is so adorable.

• 6:35Rayna Greenberg?

  All the time.

• 6:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  When a fan of the show, a girl typically wants to get a photo and she's scared to ask, which you never should be. We

• 6:44Rayna Greenberg?

  love saying that.

• 6:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love meeting you guys always. And like her boyfriend, fiance, husband comes up and is like, do you mind if she gets a photo? It's adorable. So he's one of those guys.

• 6:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I love that. Also, people's moms do it. He's a stage mom. I just, I wish you would have talked to him about coming on the show and collab. Well, no, listen, baby steps.

• 7:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, no, I said, hey, I'm a podcaster as well. And we chatted a little bit and I was like, we were actually just talking about Kylie and.

• 7:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I love Kylie Kelsey. So I watch her clips. I can't get enough of them.

• 7:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 7:12Rayna Greenberg?

  She's so funny.

• 7:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  She just straight to the camera.

• 7:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 7:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just fuck shit up.

• 7:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you and I talk a lot about like solo podcasting and I think there's like a real art to it. And I just, I could never do it. I don't have it in me, but like Heather McMahon, Kylie Kelsey.

• 7:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's it. It is. It couldn't be me. I have so much respect for people that can carry it. Kate Kennedy does an amazing job.

• 7:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 7:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, plenty of people, but it's just like, couldn't be my format. So I just, I have a lot of respect for it. So yeah, chatted with him for a little bit. He was super nice. And then, I mean, the way the game ended just was just gut wrenching, but the whole place was Eagles fans.

• 7:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, no one in LA is cares about sports.

• 7:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  But here's the thing, Raina, these teams that have moved cities, like that sucks. And I get like LA is a, can be a transient city too, but the Chargers were San Diego and the Rams were St. Louis. Like the Raiders were like, oh, they were LA when I was growing up, then they're in Oakland. Like those teams that move around, like you can never count on your team. Like we are so blessed to have lifelong legacy, never going to leave the city, knock on wood, teams like the Eagles, the Steelers, all the Northeast teams. Of course, these poor Jets fans. They're like, I guess I have to be a Jets fan for life. Like the New England Patriots. I just, the Miami Dolphins, I mean, I think of how lucky we are. I never would have thought anything different.

• 8:32Rayna Greenberg?

  That is true.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  What do you do when your team just leaves?

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad's a fan, my dad's dad's a fan, my dad's dad's dad was a fan. Like Steelers have just been like in our blood forever.

• 8:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  My brother sent me this link. He was like, take a minute and read this. This is like the most wild example. So the Baltimore team used to be the Colts before Indiana. I don't know if you knew this. I didn't really know this lore. There was the Baltimore Colts. People were fans their whole career. In 1984, the team picked up in the middle of the night and left the city.

• 8:59Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you mean they picked up?

• 9:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is like, my brother sent me this thing.

• 9:04Rayna Greenberg?

  You can't just like do that.

• 9:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  It says, "The Baltimore Colts famously moved to Indianapolis in the middle of the night, March 28th to 29th, 1984, orchestrated by the owner to escape a Maryland eminent domain law that threatened to seize the team, finalizing a secret deal with Indy for a new stadium, leaving Baltimore fans shocked and angry. Mayflower moving trucks secretly packed the team's offices and equipment, relocating them to Indy before the city could stop the move, creating a dramatic and controversial moment in NFL history."

• 9:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Stop the steal. That's crazy. In the middle of the night? I don't understand like why. Like they're not gonna like put these people in jail. Like there's gonna be like, what, they're gonna deploy the National Guard there to be like, you can't, you can't move out of there? Well, yeah.

• 9:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just so Baltimore.

• 9:50Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 9:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I feel for these people. Like, I love not having a transient team. And it's just funny because we were leaving the game, obviously all Birds fans everywhere. It just warmed my heart. Some Eagles fan yells out, "Y'all don't even know if you're from San Diego or LA." And I saw a Chargers fan kind of smirk like, you right?

• 10:06Rayna Greenberg?

  That's true. Yeah. I think you're right, though. That probably is why like football in this city isn't like such a, like basketball in this city is the thing. Like the Lakers are so famous.

• 10:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, legendary.

• 10:16Rayna Greenberg?

  And that's it. Are there a hockey team here?

• 10:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I never know what's going on with hockey.

• 10:19Rayna Greenberg?

  There is.

• 10:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But can you believe that? I thought the Indianapolis Colts were, again, I mean, my whole life, like 40 plus years, but I didn't know this lore.

• 10:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been to a hockey game here. I've been to a box seat hockey game here. I want to say the Raiders, but I think I made that up.

• 10:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Raiders, that's football.

• 10:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  When I was growing up, I remember we had a talent show in fifth grade. I won fifth place. And these girls came out in LA Raiders starter jackets and danced to R. Kelly's Bump and Grind.

• 10:55Rayna Greenberg?

  How old were you?

• 10:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our school was fifth, sixth, and seventh. So they were seventh graders. They got ripped off the stage. It was like a Mean Girls moment when they took Kevin G. off the stage. Literally, they were humping the floor. And that was the first time I ever knew about.

• 11:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Speaking of predators today, R. Kelly, that's the first time I ever knew about the LA Raiders was these girls, and I thought they were cool as hell, came out in the black and gray, really like aggressive looking starter jackets and big baggy jeans and started humping the floor.

• 11:23Rayna Greenberg?

  That is cra- we did not do kind of stuff like that at my school. We did nice, nice girl stuff. Yeah. So anyway, all right. All right. Let's get into it. We have a breakup report this week. There have been some breakups. So the first one, Love is Blind, Brennan Lemieux and Alexa, I guess her last name is Lemieux now. They have a kid who was about a year and a half old. They were on the Dallas season of Love is Blind.

• 11:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Rayna Greenberg?

  And so they are splitting up. Basically, they cited like irreconcilable differences. She came out and said, I should get more money because it's his fault.

• 11:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  We gotta talk about the money. She had money, remember? Her dad, she went to their parents' house.

• 12:02Rayna Greenberg?

  That dad was so hot. I think about that dad all the time.

• 12:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  And weren't they Jewish?

• 12:06Rayna Greenberg?

  They were Jewish.

• 12:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Okay. So.

• 12:08Rayna Greenberg?

  They were Israeli.

• 12:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think they were Jewish. Okay. So I didn't say like, I said like it was so exotic. Like, were they Jewish?

• 12:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, there's not, there are Jews in Dallas. Yeah, we do all know each other.

• 12:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's a lot of diversity in Texas. I've been finding out about it more and more.

• 12:20Rayna Greenberg?

  There's a lot of Jews in Dallas. I don't know about the rest of the places. But Houston is a big Middle Eastern population.

• 12:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Yeah. So, okay, that's what I was talking about. We were just talking with, you know, someone new on our staff about it recently, Houston, and its diversity. So he was really, he had no money. That was kind of the storyline. Remember, he was, he never had any money. He grew up really poor.

• 12:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 12:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it didn't sound like he ever really had made a bunch of money. So he did not come into that with really any money. And it's very clear that she had all this money and they didn't have a prenup. So I see that being messy. And the divorce announcement, I don't know. I mean, it sounds like some shit is going down.

• 13:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she said this is his fault.

• 13:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 13:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, when you say that, that's not irreconcilable differences. That's like you cheated on me. But I was trying to think like Love is Blind is so interesting and we talk about this all the time, different than other reality shows, because people do stay together. I mean, you, I think the only couple we've ever heard that got married and divorced was Milton and Cynthia?

• 13:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not Milton.

• 13:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is the most fun reference, like deep cut reference.

• 13:29Rayna Greenberg?

  From the Houston season where I think they're the only couple that did get married.

• 13:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 13:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I was trying to remember what their names were. You guys, I, I don't have any memory. You say stuff sometimes on the show, like, Raina, we talked about this on the podcast five years ago, as if I remember anything I did yesterday. But yes, I, this show is interesting because like, people don't really split up, which is crazy because they married people under the most insane circumstances and they had a child.

• 13:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Yeah, a lot of kids have come out of this show. So I, I don't know. I mean, am I surprised? No, I don't really think I'm ever surprised when people who meet on a reality show get divorced, but I thought they were pretty solid. And again, it's sad. They just had a kid. You know, it would feel different if they didn't just have a kid. The kid is what, 14, 17 months old? So like a fresh baby.

• 14:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Fresh, 16 months.

• 14:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I just hate the canned breakup announcements. Like just once, I'd love to read one that doesn't start with, after a lot of heartfelt conversations.

• 14:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 14:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I want to be like, ask me anything about, he's the worst.

• 14:24Rayna Greenberg?

  We met you on reality television, so just tell us what happened.

• 14:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Sign my petition to waive spousal support.

• 14:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I totally.

• 14:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I want someone to get messy with it. We've been fighting.

• 14:35Rayna Greenberg?

  But it's just like, you guys sold us this love story and I'd like the end of the love story, please.

• 14:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I get it 100%. And of course, I want them to support each other. They have a child. But I'm talking a couple with no kid. I want an announcement that is messy.

• 14:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Messy, so messy.

• 14:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, the most we ever get is like, an announcement that the other person didn't know about. Like Matt James.

• 14:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Or Nina Dobrev, I think when her and Sean White broke up. I think she insinuated he cheated on her.

• 15:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hmm.

• 15:01Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, only insinuated. She didn't come out swinging.

• 15:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess, though, you don't want to, calling someone out for chea- eh, I don't know. You probably, I guess this does happen.

• 15:13Rayna Greenberg?

  But I don't know actually why it doesn't happen more because like being cheated on. People feel embarrassed, but it's so not embarrassing. It's not your fault. You can't control another human being. If somebody chooses to betray you, that has no reflection on you. It's interesting that people don't talk about it more.

• 15:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I just worry. I don't know if people are, I don't know if I'm going to say scared of what someone might do, but you never know.

• 15:36Rayna Greenberg?

  A lot of people also have prenups that like have that clause in there that says you can't do it. I'm assuming people do sign NDAs with each other.

• 15:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Maybe. Okay. Well, you know, we'll keep you guys updated, but any sort of like love is blind relationship updates, we got to talk about it. But the next one is such a heartbreaker.

• 15:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. I feel sad about it. Alex Earl, Alex with an X, Braxton with an X.

• 15:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  They love an X.

• 15:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Jackson.

• 15:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jackson.

• 15:59Rayna Greenberg?

  So Alex Earl and Braxton Barrios split up. I don't, so basically Dumois broke this news, who's been on our show, um, that somebody sent in a tip to her. They've been broken up for a while. And then every outlet picked this up. It was my entire feed. I don't think Alex Earl has confirmed it, but a few days later, people were shopping this idea that Jackson with an X, who's the quarterback of the Giants, had slid in, was like, you single now. And she did a TikTok saying like that was photoshopped and that wasn't real.

• 16:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she also said, I would never post this, which I love. Like, guys, grow up. Are you, do you know me at all? I wouldn't post this. Like, I'm a classy bitch.

• 16:40Rayna Greenberg?

  You and I have always really liked them as a couple. I've, I always really liked her. She just seems like cute and fun and sweet and she doesn't start shit with anybody ever. I just, I enjoy her whole vibe, but she's a young girl. She's 24. I'm assuming she had to, you do have to move to LA to do Dancing with the Stars and since she went all the way, I'm assuming she lived here for a couple of months.

• 16:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I have always, for the most part, you know, she had a few problematic things in her past and I think she's, you know, grown and apologized and I think she's a pretty generous influencer in terms of what she's done with her fame. And I think people like her, I like her. I loved watching them together. I like their energy. I think we see a lot of influencers and their boyfriends that feel like they don't want to be in the content or they're in. annoyed or they don't even like their partner and I always thought they were really cute. But this is just young people breaking up. You know, like it's just what it is like we all have relationships and we date, we break up until we find the one and then sometimes you break up then too.

• 17:36Rayna Greenberg?

  That dynamic is tough because I think she's so busy, she's so famous and she has a million things she's always going and doing and he is tethered to Houston where he plays. So there's no like traveling around with her kind of thing. I agree, just I think young people break up, it's sad to see.

• 17:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think her career is skyrocketing. People are saying this will help her career, not that she did it as a career move. I think they had a solid, real relationship, but that she will be even more popular now being single, which you can think that or not, I don't know. I think any change in someone's relationship status elevates them in some way. Like something changes like, oh, she's single now. So that'll be the narrative as opposed to, oh, this person's like married or engaged now. That's the narrative. I mean, it goes both ways.

• 18:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Having a boyfriend is embarrassing.

• 18:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because having a boyfriend, anything in between. What is embarrassing is any male name with an X in it besides Max.

• 18:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, all of them like X's.

• 18:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying, Braxton, Jackson, like.

• 18:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Alex. She loves an X.

• 18:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Alex is acceptable, the E, the I is a little weird. Yeah, so same energy though, Braxton and Alex with an I. She's like, I'm going to date somebody, they're going to have an X in their name. But I just think what men, male names, Max, that's it. Name a male name that's acceptable to an X, Max.

• 18:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Felix.

• 18:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause we're going to Felix tonight.

• 18:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Felix is a little more cat coded though.

• 18:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Felix is fine, you, you got me on that one. There are two.

• 18:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm on fire today, okay, because I haven't drank in like a week.

• 18:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're firing on all cylinders.

• 19:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's, there are a few names I hate more than like Braxton.

• 19:05Rayna Greenberg?

  No, that name is insane.

• 19:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Jackson with an X.

• 19:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But no, I like what you said, by the way, you hit on like influencer boyfriends. You only usually see one of two camps, people that openly hate on having to be in these videos. And it's like, it's embarrassing and weird and but then ones that like want to be in a little too much.

• 19:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 19:21Rayna Greenberg?

  He really was right up the middle.

• 19:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 19:23Rayna Greenberg?

  And I like to see it.

• 19:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and I, I wasn't like a dedicated follower, but every time I saw a video where she was getting ready, he like genuinely, genuinely was helping her.

• 19:31Rayna Greenberg?

  It was cute.

• 19:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, it seemed like she really wanted his opinion on her outfit and he would just help her get out the door and I just love that because that's my life.

• 19:38Rayna Greenberg?

  You do love somebody helping you get out the door.

• 19:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you wanted to tell me something about.

• 19:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, okay, so not quite a breakup, but a not legally married report. And that's me. Because of a mistake you made on the paperwork.

• 19:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I made a mistake?

• 19:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let me get the paperwork.

• 19:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe after four days of binge drinking with you, I made a mistake.

• 20:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is crazy.

• 20:02Rayna Greenberg?

  On Sunday.

• 20:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so this-

• 20:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you sure it wasn't Meghan's fault? We were all pretty banged up at my house that morning.

• 20:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So what happened was LA County sent me a letter, "You're not married. Here's why." The following items. So a couple of things. One thing, you didn't, I don't think this is your fault, obviously. You didn't write your religious denomination. But it says in the box, it says religious denomination if clergy. And that's, I thought if you are clergy, you're not clergy.

• 20:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, who cares?

• 20:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you supposed to write Jewish in here?

• 20:32Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, what's the, I don't mean sarcastic. What is the difference?

• 20:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. And I didn't think that was one of the mandatory things we had to fill out. Are we, are you supposed to write Jewish? I guess.

• 20:41Rayna Greenberg?

  But I can worship this lamp if I feel like it. Like, I have to write atheist?

• 20:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause, or agnostic? Cause it has nothing to do with us. And you also, you don't have to registers a religion.

• 20:51Rayna Greenberg?

  A Jew, yeah.

• 20:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then the other thing, this official title, you had written officiant and then you crossed it out and wrote minister, which I think was a joint decision.

• 20:58Rayna Greenberg?

  You sure it's in my handwriting?

• 20:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, right there.

• 21:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't remember this. That's not my handwriting. I didn't write that. That looks like your handwriting.

• 21:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, I did that.

• 21:09Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't know your handwriting? That's crazy. I can tell that's that starboard ass pen with that janky ass ink. I would never use that pen.

• 21:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  You love those pens.

• 21:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Gel pens forever, baby.

• 21:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't matter because there are two mistakes.

• 21:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  But apparently you can't cross something out on this. Rena, okay, so we both fucked up. It says, "The Office of the State Register prohibits the recorder from filing a marriage certificate that is illegible or has been altered by whiteout, erasures, strikeovers, etc." So those two things, yes, one is completely my fault. I mean, I'll take credit, I'll take the blame for both of them. I told you, you don't have to fill that out. I thought it meant if you're religious, you put that in the-

• 21:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, why did you cross it out?

• 21:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I got, I crossed that out because I thought when I looked up like what you are, it said you're a minister. And I didn't know if officiant was elite, was, was the correct term.

• 22:05Rayna Greenberg?

  So now what do we do?

• 22:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So now I have to have you fill this out today.

• 22:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 22:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we have to send this in.

• 22:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Highlighted it like I'm a baby.

• 22:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're like, they're gonna get this wrong again. We have to send this in with a $30 check.

• 22:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 22:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have to get a new marriage certificate and then we have to do that. So I'm like, do we have to bring our witness back into the mix? This is crazy.

• 22:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, we'll do it in New York with Megan again.

• 22:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, like, this is wild.

• 22:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe you thought that was my handwriting.

• 22:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't even bother to look. I just didn't want to take the blame myself.

• 22:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe that you're not married.

• 22:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe it either. So anyway, that's the breakup report.

• 22:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Honestly, like, I feel like people are way dumber than us, probably. And like, how does anybody figure this out?

• 22:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's so funny because I called to see if they had received it yet because I sent it in the mail with something else that hasn't been received to New York. And so I was like, oh no, what if they haven't received my certificate? So I called them, they're easy to get in touch with. And they were like, oh, we have so much mail to go through. We probably won't know if we even received it for like a month or two. But sure enough, they did receive it and they sent it right back. This is wrong.

• 23:10Rayna Greenberg?

  That was quick.

• 23:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:11Rayna Greenberg?

  They were quick to tell you you messed up.

• 23:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Okay, so anyway, hopefully we'll be married soon.

• 23:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I'm excited to spend more time signing this with you.

• 23:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's move on.

• 23:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, the, the biggest doc to hit these streets, the Diddy doc.

• 23:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Diddy doc, let's kick it off with a slow clap for 50 cent for producing this.

• 23:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, unbelievable. So he got ahold of footage for the last 10, 20 years or something?

• 23:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, there's footage of, the old footage is footage that's existed that's out there. He got this footage from recently, obviously. There's all this footage from Diddy days before his arrest.

• 23:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Days before the arrest, yeah.

• 23:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And do you know how they got that?

• 23:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought that it's somebody like on his team, obviously, who gave it. Okay, tell me and I'll tell you what I heard.

• 23:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Diddy always has filmed himself doing everything. A lot of these celebrities do. It turns out that the story so far, which I think has been confirmed, is that he was planning to do something of his own with that footage, probably his comeback story, regardless he was filming, and he never paid the videographer.

• 24:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I heard, who told me this like two days ago, that basically all this footage got seized in a raid and that it just got lost.

• 24:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  The story that I have seen, which I, they, there's been journalists that have reported on this, we can, I just read this article this morning, is that he didn't pay the videographer, which is on track for him, and didn't sign any sort of contract, and so the videographer owns the footage, and so he submitted it to Netflix, which brings me to my first point, which is like, just pay people. Like, I found it so crazy. I mean, you had these people, Lil Rod for one, saying he owed him 250K, like, which is nothing to Diddy. And Diddy, meanwhile, is voice noting him, like, calling him nonstop with all these excuses. Why not just pay him? And the people in the doc that spoke on this were like, he liked to keep

• 25:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  people down and not pay them, because then they might get a little cocky. And it's like, yeah, but he's abusing people and also not paying them. So it seems crazy to me. I thought his whole thing, this was one of the surprising parts of the doc to me, I thought his whole thing was always paying people to keep them quiet. He's paying, obviously, law enforcement, he's paying his lawyers, his PR team, all these people. So the people that were working for him that were inside of his world, like Lil Rod, to not pay him what he's due is crazy to me. It's like a-

• 25:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm 100% with you. You and I were talking about the most shocking revelations, so I was like, kind of writing down stuff. That was one of the more shocking revelations to me, that he wasn't paying people, because I do believe that how you do one thing is how you do all things. He's a terrible scumbag.

• 25:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  A complete monster.

• 25:53Rayna Greenberg?

  So it doesn't, it doesn't shock me that he structured all of these music contracts so that nobody would get paid, and was taking advantage of all these people. But to your point, the people that he needed to have hide his secrets, like the videographer, I'm shocked he didn't pay these people.

• 26:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Crazy. Like, he, Lil Rod says that he was drugged, he was in the freak-offs, all of that, and all- All he needed was 250K. All he was promised was 250K.

• 26:18Rayna Greenberg?

  From a billionaire.

• 26:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  To produce that whole album.

• 26:20Rayna Greenberg?

  From a billionaire. That's like giving somebody a dollar for you and I.

• 26:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's not that it's not a lot of money. It's not a lot of money to him. They paid him $29,000 or something like that. I mean, so this documentary, obviously we jumped a little bit ahead. It's The Reckoning, Sean Combs. It was produced by 50 Cent and it's four parts. It's done wonderfully. I mean, it is about Diddy and his life and his coming of age and into his career, but it's also shows a lot about the music industry and the best era in music and all the Tupac and Biggie feud that was basically seems orchestrated by Diddy.

• 26:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I hate to say like I loved the documentary because it's horrifying, but it was so well done and it wasn't so biased either. I thought that they actually did show like why some of these testimonies didn't go so great for the prosecution and why some of these people, it's harder to believe some of these people that, you know, you have his longtime assistant on the stand who went through a lot with him. Her name's Capricorn. And they said, you know, it's, it's sort of hard to take into account the stuff she said because she was sort of aiding and abetting him for many, many years, a decade, helping him. And, you know, there's all this talk about like, you know, will you stayed and all this? And, I mean, you and I, well, you could talk forever about the psychological effects of being in the throes of such an abuser and a manipulator and what that does to you. And, you know, they talk a lot about Cassie and Cassie was 19.

• 27:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Being groomed though. Like that's why, that's why people groom. That's the whole point of it. Is to get you to a point where you will put up with this and stay.

• 27:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And his assistant also said she came from a lot of trauma. Like you do understand that it's not so easy for these people to just have left or not have helped him.

• 27:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  That Indian man didn't understand. That juror.

• 28:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I, he kept saying like, they interviewed some of the jurors, you know, it's, it's easy to have left, but I look at somebody like Cassie who was 19. She left a small town, moved to New York, met him. That's the most, one of the most famous and powerful people. You, it's not easy to just leave.

• 28:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't understand.

• 28:16Rayna Greenberg?

  How many women would just leave if it was so easy to leave?

• 28:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I don't understand how anyone can justify anything he's done after seeing the Cassie video, like above all, like.

• 28:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred accusa- like, this man is a complete monster. He's like the most depraved, sickest individual I've like ever really heard of to date. But if nothing else, if you want to think it's all been a witch hunt or a hit job, you've seen him kick this woman and drag her. How can you, I just, that would be, he's guilty of everything, clearly. This is a monster among us.

• 28:56Rayna Greenberg?

  So, it's interesting because I was looking at this and I was like, not that I'm a prosecutor, but I was like, this should have been a Rico case. So Rico cases-

• 29:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shouldn't have been.

• 29:03Rayna Greenberg?

  It should have been. So a Rico case was basically invited by-

• 29:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was a Rico case.

• 29:07Rayna Greenberg?

  The whole thing was a Rico case?

• 29:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and he didn't-

• 29:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought previously he got acquitted for a Rico case. This was for like prostitution, kidnapping, racketeering.

• 29:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was the whole case. They didn't, they weren't able to get him on the Rico charges.

• 29:18Rayna Greenberg?

  They couldn't get him on the Rico charges.

• 29:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he was, yeah.

• 29:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Of that, he was acquitted.

• 29:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  People were saying that was their mistake. They were trying to do too much.

• 29:25Rayna Greenberg?

  But to me, like, this is all a picture of somebody who's just a menace to society.

• 29:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, yes.

• 29:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, that's why it's so hard to put mafia bosses away because like, they didn't pull the, they don't pull the trigger in any cases. I mean-

• 29:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 29:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Diddy sexually assaulted a lot of people, did some terrible things. But like mafia bosses, they don't really pull the trigger, so it's hard to get them because like, they're involved in pulling the strings, but they don't really do anything necessarily. Like, Diddy is a menace to society and he's been locked up for life. He destroyed the lives of all these people.

• 29:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 29:50Rayna Greenberg?

  They showed all these people that like, would have stayed in the music industry and like, quit the music industry just because like, they couldn't deal with working with him.

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or they died. Diddy is a serial killer. Like, again, like you said, I guess if he didn't pull the trigger, but it's insane. Like, all the people who have died-

• 30:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Like the trail of death, yes.

• 30:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Like, and all the people from Uptown in the early days. So obviously Biggie, Kim Porter, Craig Mack, Andre Harrell, who was the original founder of Uptown, Heavy D, all those people are dead and-

• 30:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Tupac?

• 30:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tupac, of course. Obviously Biggie and Tupac. I'm talking out in like, the Uptown bad boy world. Like, the stampede during the basketball game, which I didn't realize that he was responsible for. Like, which came first? His bloodlust, or him realizing- That the more people died, the more power he gained.

• 30:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought so much of the sensationalism of the trial was about sexual assault and these free costs. They didn't actually talk about it as much in this four part series as I thought they would have because so much other stuff was so terrible. I mean, you just pick a thing. I'm the amount of deaths and robbing people of all their money, their careers, their ability to just make a living. I mean, it was a smaller part of the documentary because everything he's done is so terrible.

• 31:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like him and his son went into the bathroom and killed somebody and they just covered it up. Like it's, it's, it's, there's witnesses. It's so crazy. I mean, Aubrey O'Day was, I mean, allegedly, I say that so loosely, but I think very clearly raped, gang raped by him and someone else. Someone saw this with their own eyes, but because she couldn't remember it, she didn't feel comfortable coming out, even though she knows that happened and there's so many other victims.

• 31:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought she like really like, like applause to her. Like I thought she did a great job saying, like, I don't know that this happened, but I can't say it didn't happen. That would undermine all the other people that said this happened to them. I really liked she was really like poised in what she said. And she also provided emails of him saying, I'm masturbating to you and stuff. Why are all these people putting stuff in emails like this?

• 31:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so crazy. I mean, he's the same as Epstein and Trump where it's just like they think they're above the law, but he, because he has been. I mean, he learned at a young age, people can die and I will benefit. And he just went with that. I mean, what a sick fuck.

• 32:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I also don't think I really, I enjoyed the part about hip hop in the early 90s. I thought it was really interesting to revisit like that moment in time. Obviously through this lens is very terrible, but I actually kind of forgot that he wasn't partic, he wasn't actually like a rapper until he. Orchestrated Biggie being killed and then all of a sudden was like in all these music videos and performing. I guess I just kind of forgot that he waited to like wipe out Biggie to take the stage.

• 32:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  To take the stage. I loved all the stuff about how terrible he is as he has no musical talent. It took him what, seven months to do eight bars, they said. The one guy that was mocking him when he was with Come For Me or that song, like he had no talent. Like even the way he danced, that became a thing. But when you look back, you're like, oh, he can't dance, he can't rap. He's so ugly. His mouth is always open. I mean, you guys go check out my reel. It's purely popping off. I have always been unable to comprehend just how repulsive he is. Like, how did he even come to power looking like that? Like, why won't his mouth ever be closed?

• 33:18Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy.

• 33:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I posted this reel and I just said, he looks like Napoleon Dynamite and he's catching flies at all times and people are just like loving it.

• 33:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you for breaking that story. Cause like I've been watching. It's all the photos throughout the documentary is always open.

• 33:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mouth is always open. He's a mouth breather and no chin. Which if you're a mouth breather, it does affect your jawline. It's just, he's disgusting.

• 33:36Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, he's...

• 33:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Blakely Thornton, who I love, did this, he does not hold back. He just goes in, no lube on everybody. Sydney Sweeney, Diddy, like he does not care. But he did a reel about how he's a self-loathing closet case and how so many of these people are gay. And he had this quote, he was like, if you hate yourself, you don't care about anybody else. And I think that's the thing. Like, we are able to look at people, like the people in power in this country and be like, you hate yourself. So that's a scary person. That's a person that you never know what they're gonna do when they hate themselves. What are they gonna do to other people? And I just think a lot of people, obviously, think Diddy is gay and he has, there's obviously...

• 34:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Multiple men in the documentary.

• 34:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. He's abused so many men, but it's just somebody that... Was trying to not be.

• 34:29Rayna Greenberg?

  There were so many people in this documentary that worked for him for a long time that were sexually assaulted by him. And I mean, I just, I resent and to anybody who's ever been harmed like that resents the implication that you could just leave. I mean, the amount of money these people depended on him for and fame and access for all these things. I mean, it's a really frightening person. It's really brave to even come forward and record this and put out this documentary. Like, I would fear for my life and a lot of these people said that they do feel for their lives.

• 34:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, like a third to half of women don't report sexual assault at all, by the way. So, and especially if it's someone in power. So for a hundred women to accuse him of sexual assault, like, how can you not believe that? It makes me so sick. It's just, I'm, I'm so, I don't, I don't even have the words for these abusers who are in power, him just being one of them. Like, good guys do not have multiple rape, domestic abuse, murder allegations. These are terrible people and I look back and like the amount of money and energy I gave to Bad Boy.

• 35:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, obviously I was never like, they thought Diddy was a great musical artist, but all, you know, I all used to say I was Bad Boy for life. I mean, this, it's hard to believe in all those people you feel for if they were taken advantage of, abused by him. And I still support them, obviously 112, Lil Kim, whoever it may be. But I, I could be sick over it and the same with people like R. Kelly. It's just, I don't know, trust no one.

• 36:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you just, you hate to see these people just hiding in plain sight.

• 36:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 36:04Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred women came forward and, you know, they, the prosecution had a hard time selling this idea that like Cassie was a victim because they were together for 10 years and there's so much evidence in emails and texts of her saying, I'm always down to freak and all these things. And I, I understand it being hard to paint this picture, but this paints a larger picture of a total monster who, this is supposed to be somebody he loved and protected. This was a young girl who he was supposedly in love with and he just fed her to the wolves for a decade.

• 36:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and these fucking jurors, I mean- I cannot believe that woman juror 160 did this documentary like she had stars in her eyes. I mean, just couldn't not smile as she talked about Diddy talking about they shared a moment during the case like how much of a fan she was of she watched making the band 112 day 26 like no one even remembers who they were. I know I don't like how did she even get on the jury? I was reading about this. I guess she said she wasn't a fan lies. Watching her, I honestly, second to all the rage I feel for him and what he's done was that woman to sit there giddy that she got to be in the same room with him.

• 37:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 37:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, she's getting dragged all over the internet and I'm like, you shouldn't have done this.

• 37:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Shouldn't have done it. It's just, it's hard to believe that anybody could sit and watch that video of him beating Cassie. And somebody said he wasn't on, he wasn't on trial for domestic abuse. Okay, fine, but this paints a picture of a literal monster.

• 37:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 37:34Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, it's, he's, he's able to hold a towel up in that video and beat her basically to a pulp.

• 37:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And it was just heartbreaking to hear that. Like, I never thought that. I never thought that jurors would feel starstruck by him. And then they were talking about how the jurors went home every night, which I forgot that or I didn't know that. I thought that was insane. They weren't sequestered. And then there's these publicists talking to them.

• 37:57Rayna Greenberg?

  There's TikTokers in the lunchroom with them. Crazy.

• 38:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 38:01Rayna Greenberg?

  But then like they did this whole montage of like all the times he'd been accused of things and like just tangential to a lot of murder, like both times, the time Tupac was shot and the time he was killed, like Papi was there. He was like on the premises, like the amount of times he was just sort of like parallel to all these things happening. We just never thought.

• 38:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Keefe D thing was crazy, just straight up admitting that he was hired to do it, to kill Tupac like. I mean, once they said he escorted Biggie to his death, I mean, I just couldn't believe this and I just, we were brought up to think they were best friends and missing you and all of that. They just weren't and like Tupac and Biggie.

• 38:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're getting along, gonna, I mean, we just

• 38:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Getting along just fine.

• 38:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Missed that collab.

• 38:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Crazy.

• 38:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Could have been the best team up of the century. So there is so many things that are unbelievable in the documentary. His son, Justin.

• 38:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Justin just.

• 38:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fucking watch out for that guy.

• 38:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, being, so I thought that was shocking. I didn't realize that, that his son was like a part of raping these women and assaulting them. Just did it.

• 39:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Killing people.

• 39:06Rayna Greenberg?

  In the middle with his dad.

• 39:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just kept forgetting, I would see Justin in these shots and be like, he's always with him, whatever. And I, I literally had to remind myself that was his fucking son.

• 39:16Rayna Greenberg?

  It's unbelievable. But like, I mean, they say that his mom was this monster. She's obviously denied it, but like, that's who raised Justin. Why wouldn't he be exactly like that?

• 39:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Justin, I'm terrified about. I mean, how do you, cause he's obviously sticking by his dad and, you know, you have a parent like that and you really either completely separate yourself from them and denounce all their behavior and choose the complete opposite path or you're exactly like them.

• 39:42Rayna Greenberg?

  That guy is a monster and a menace to society.

• 39:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Um, and now Jaw Rule has entered the chat and saying 50 is not innocent. And he, Jaw Rule is saying.

• 39:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Jaw?

• 39:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, 50 and Jaw Rule have beef also. He said, let me be clear, this is on his Instagram. Let me be clear, this isn't about Diddy. He's already in jail, serving time as he should be. This is about this sucker Curtis acting like he's hip hop's moral savior going on TV with them tight ass nasty suits and that big ass jug head when you're no different allegedly. I mean, and then there's pictures of them together, but they were friends. I mean, a lot of people were friends previously.

• 40:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's hard to say like, you know, if, can you be friendly with a person and not participate in all those things? Probably. Can you?

• 40:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, like J Lo, I mean, where's the line? Like.

• 40:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 40:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Being friends with somebody early days is different than sticking by them for years because. You and I could have gone to a white party and not known what was going on and we could have pictures with him and it, we weren't in his, we wouldn't be in his inner circle for years. Obviously, we would start to understand what was happening.

• 40:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I mean, it's, I'm willing to believe that you could collaborate professionally with somebody for many years and still hear rumors and not know that they're true. I, I don't know how far, like, I don't know how far down it goes. Like, you could collaborate professionally and not have gone to these parties and a lot of the people that were interviewed had never come forward before. Like, you could have heard, I, I don't know. I really don't know. Does everybody that gets near him, are they all, I mean, J Lo is an interesting person because she, what, years they were together?

• 41:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think the, it's, it seems to be, people are speaking out, putting their lives on the line because they can't stay silent anymore, or they are completely silent. Like J Lo, like Lil Kim. I mean, it's just, it's like one or the other. So, I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, he's in jail for a few years.

• 41:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you know what I don't think that they talked about in the documentary, and then we'll move on from this, I promise. Um, Kim Porter died, allegedly, his, his ex-wife, of pneumonia in her 40s. Do they talk about the fact that people think that he killed her also, or is that totally not a part of the documentary at all?

• 41:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think they mentioned that. But they also didn't mention all the other people who died of a heart attack or whatever, you know, like Heavy D, Andre Harrell, like, all these people. Like, I think you're supposed to kind of put together the pieces. I don't, I thought everybody thought he killed Kim. I don't think it was in the...

• 42:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think it was in the documentary. I think everybody thought that, but I, maybe it just felt like they can't substantiate this and so they didn't mention it. Okay, I was just curious.

• 42:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, check it out. I mean, it's the number one thing on Netflix. Everybody's watching it. It just, it's stuck with me for days. It's, it's, it's a tough watch.

• 42:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It is. It's just, you know, you think about all the people that he was connected to artistically, that you loved growing up, that you enjoyed, you consumed this music, you paid for it. Like, how much of your money went towards this? And it's like hard to stomach.

• 42:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 42:37Rayna Greenberg?

  So anyways.

• 42:38Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 43:20Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 44:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 44:29Rayna Greenberg?

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• 45:14Rayna Greenberg?

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• 45:43Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 46:24Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 46:51Rayna Greenberg?

  What did I say?

• 46:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You said something very funny.

• 46:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I was talking about how I feel so good lately because I haven't been drinking at all. But I was like, catch me in the gutter drunk like every day next week. Just because I don't leave the house in LA. I don't have to worry about being hungover.

• 47:03Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 47:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And we are going to give you guys headlines for the week and then send you off to your week.

• 47:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  And our show.

• 47:36Rayna Greenberg?

  So Pantone every year chooses a color of the year, and this year they chose white. It's caused some rage bait discourse online.

• 47:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. The question is, is this rage bait? Like, what are we doing here? I mean, I just, you know, this is not what I can get riled up over of all the things happening in Diddy, of all the things happening in the world, but like, it seems.

• 48:00Rayna Greenberg?

  People are saying it's dystopian.

• 48:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 48:02Rayna Greenberg?

  It evokes white supremacy. I, I think people are kicking the can down the road a little too much here.

• 48:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  It seems out of touch and

• 48:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 48:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  ill timed and are they doing this to cause a stir?

• 48:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Does Pantone?

• 48:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is white a color? What is it? Cloud or something?

• 48:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Cloud dancer.

• 48:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  dancer. Yes.

• 48:21Rayna Greenberg?

  That color.

• 48:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So cloud dancer, which yes, is like a little bit of an off white. I mean, we'd love the color, color, but that's the whole thing too. Like Pantone, you think of color. They do all these different colors. Like, there's also a debate, is white even a color? So why do this? It felt really intentional in a weird way.

• 48:38Rayna Greenberg?

  So they said the reason why it acts as a whisper of calm and peace in a noisy world and invites true relaxation and focus, allowing the mind to wander. Shut up.

• 48:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Rayna Greenberg?

  White?

• 48:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 48:50Rayna Greenberg?

  White.

• 48:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anyway, rage bait or not, you guys let us know. Raina, stop saying it's cloud dancer.

• 48:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It's cloud dancer.

• 48:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, next we have FIFA gave a peace prize to President Trump.

• 49:03Rayna Greenberg?

  To the two-year-old that runs this country.

• 49:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Never happened before FIFA created the FIFA Peace Prize that did not exist a month ago and gave it to Trump. There were no other candidates. He obviously campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize unsuccessfully and they gave him this participation trophy, which I think is so crazy because the MAGA world, they feel very like not everybody gets a participation trophy. Like they feel anti that movement and yet their guy, their toddler of a president, needs a fake peace prize.

• 49:42Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this little preschooler who can't even stay awake during press conferences and court cases. I mean, how much footage have you seen of him just falling asleep in the middle of interviews recently and they're like, just give it to this child.

• 49:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe it.

• 49:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's make it up.

• 49:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Aren't you guys so embarrassed? You know, like if you're MAGA, let's just take all of the racism and misogyny and authoritarian out of it because they like that, you know.

• 50:03Rayna Greenberg?

  It's supremacy and yeah, hatred of women.

• 50:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  But aren't you embarrassed that he can't stay awake? Aren't you embarrassed that he tweets a thousand times a night like a senile grandpa that shouldn't have access to technology? Aren't you embarrassed that he had to get a fake prize because he didn't win the real one? Aren't you mortified that this is your guy? This is your leader?

• 50:24Rayna Greenberg?

  And he ran this whole platform, which everyone thought was so funny about Sleepy Joe. Joe Biden is a falling asleep on national television.

• 50:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Saw Joe last week, sort of. Killing it. He was at this party of this guy that I know. He's doing great. The health update, he was making a little joke. Let me, you know what? Let me give a Joe Biden health update.

• 50:42Rayna Greenberg?

  He's such a cutie.

• 50:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I just think.

• 50:45Rayna Greenberg?

  You're so right. Like, aren't you guys embarrassed that this is your dude?

• 50:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying. Like this is your.

• 50:50Rayna Greenberg?

  With his big pores and his orange face and he's just asleep.

• 50:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is your leader? Okay, so I know this man. He used to work with my best friend and I've met him too. And I met him right after the 2016 election. That was tough at her wedding. And last week, she was supposed to go to a holiday party at his house. This is like Joe's bestie. And they got there late and Joe had just left. So she just missed him. But I was like, did you get a health report? She said he took pictures with people. He apparently showed someone a funny TikTok. He did look a little tired. He joked that he was out past his bedtime.

• 51:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, Joe, I get it.

• 51:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was making jokes.

• 51:26Rayna Greenberg?

  8 p.m. is my bedtime.

• 51:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. So he seemed with it and never stopped smiling. She sent me a couple of photos. He looks amazing. Not sleepy at all. So anyway, that's your Joe Biden health update.

• 51:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, that's cute. I love that.

• 51:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. And we have our Golden Globes nominations for 2026. Nikki Glaser is hosting again. And right, I have to tell you, like, we're not going to go through all the nominations, of course, but I was scrolling them and I know like none of the movies and all of the TV.

• 51:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, nothing makes me feel like a bigger piece of trash than seeing nominations because I'm like, I've never seen any of them.

• 51:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't, you know what? I just said recently to Shang, I was like, God, I fucking love TV. I just, TV is so good. And we've said this recently, like, movies aren't as good as we thought they used to be because of TV. How great TV is. Like, you don't need these movies.

• 52:13Rayna Greenberg?

  They're all three.

• 52:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  No offense to the movies.

• 52:14Rayna Greenberg?

  They're all three hours long.

• 52:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But we'll watch three hours.

• 52:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I will binge. Yeah, but I know that there's breaks.

• 52:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I just, I love seeing it. And so I thought there was so much good TV this year. Lately, we've been talking a lot about it. So I'm really excited and I'm excited to see Nikki host again. And so we'll have to do another little watch party again at your house.

• 52:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't wait to see it. Um, okay. And we're going to close out with just some reality stuff that's been happening. Um, the Summer House trailer has dropped for season 10. So much tea out of this. I mean, Wes and Jesse are fighting over Ciara.

• 52:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ah.

• 52:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Amanda and Kyle. I mean, she says he fell asleep at a, at a fan's house. What else do we see on this?

• 52:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um.

• 52:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, Carl and Kyle get like a physical altercation.

• 52:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was honed in on Ciara and Wes and Jesse, which no big surprise there. Like, of course Wes misses Ciara.

• 53:01Rayna Greenberg?

  And of course Jesse is gonna go around his friend, like a little scumbag that he is.

• 53:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then Lindsay's just a mom. Where's her kid? This is not mom shaming, but like.

• 53:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Turner was Turner.

• 53:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kid gonna be with his dad. True. Yeah. No, this, this might be the last season. I want, wait, Paige is not on it?

• 53:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Paige is not on it. And they have, I think, six new cast members.

• 53:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 53:23Rayna Greenberg?

  They teased almost, I want to say six new people, kind of in and out. There were a lot of new people this season. They replaced Paige with six people.

• 53:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what they need to do, the star of the show. Yeah, I mean, I am into it. We have so much good TV coming in 2026. Tell Me Lies will be January and then Summer House is early Feb. So I'm excited, but yeah, I don't know. This could be my last season. That's what I feel.

• 53:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I say that every year.

• 53:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  But once everyone I know from the old days is gone, I'm really not going to care. So I don't know how much longer we have with those.

• 53:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad that you said that because Vanderpump season 12 just came out and it is an all new cast and one of the girls on the show, Demi, waited on you and I and Shashank the other night. We went into Sir.

• 54:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did we know then?

• 54:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I knew that she was going to be on the show.

• 54:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did know, okay.

• 54:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So she waited on us.

• 54:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  We don't go to Sir a lot, you guys. It was random.

• 54:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, we were at an event. You're saying like we're always at Sir.

• 54:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've been twice ever.

• 54:20Rayna Greenberg?

  We were, it actually wasn't the other night either. It was this summer and we, we were at an event hosted by friends of yours at a hotel across the street and I seized the opportunity because I will go to, I will go to Sir anytime.

• 54:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  They were wonderful. The hospitality is great. I asked to move our table. They accommodated us. Obviously I did.

• 54:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, Guillermo moved our table and it's, and it's beautiful in there and I also, I don't know that I'm going to watch this season. I think that the ship has maybe sailed for me. I watched the first episode. I don't know, I'm 40 years old. I don't know that I want to watch a bunch of 20 year olds just like be terrible to each other. Maybe I do. I don't know. I mean, I did watch the first episode. It's fine.

• 54:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 54:56Rayna Greenberg?

  It's fine. And then ending it, Mormon Wise reunion was this week. Stassi Schroder, speaking of Vanderpump, hosted it. I thought it was amazing to see her like host this. She's so good at like managing all these people. I was a little disappointed. They let the bad talk guys on the stage for 45 minutes of the, of the hour.

• 55:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what people are saying, like, why are we platforming these men? The show is about these women. I mean, I'm not in the culture, but I have seen that online.

• 55:19Rayna Greenberg?

  You're exactly right. You're spot on. And for Real Housewives, they tend to bring the guys out sometimes, especially in Jersey, because those guys are such a big part of the, the husbands of that series, that franchise. But these guys came to the stage like very early on and just stayed on the stage.

• 55:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 55:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Half of them didn't even dress for it. They guys in like, in like tank tops. I don't know. They really just gave the floor to, I. I guess they filmed for 12 hours and they put out one hour of content. I could have done three hours and given all I just, the whole thing of this show is that these women and what have, what has happened to them at the hands of men. I mean, at one point, they go around the stage and talk about how they've all been sexually assaulted. I mean, it was really powerful and brave that all these women are bringing their stories to the forefront, but I didn't need these men on the stage for this moment.

• 56:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get out of here.

• 56:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, and then

• 56:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Boo them off the stage.

• 56:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And so the whole thing is they're like filming the new season while their reunion's coming out, it's a whole thing. So stay tuned next year. And then the final headline is that Marciano is suing Demi for accusing him of sexual assault. So stay tuned, but I guess he is suing her for bad press.

• 56:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I don't know what that means. No, I think you told me last week. No, I'm gonna, you guys, I'm gonna watch this. Watch out. 2026, it's my year.

• 56:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know that I put on my resolutions? I don't, okay, Ashley and I do resolutions every year. I don't want to like tease all of my 2026 ones.

• 56:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Now I'm giving one of mine away, but that's okay.

• 56:31Rayna Greenberg?

  2026, I wrote, I'm gonna get into Love Island.

• 56:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. Things are, times there are changing, you guys. Okay, that is your snack. We will see you Saturday in New York for the Girls Gotta Eat 8th Annual Holiday Show. Get those tickets at girlsgottaeat.com. We cannot wait to see you guys. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Raina is Raina dot Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 56:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys, and we'll see you on Saturday.

• 57:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Bye.