Giggling about Sports Illustrated, friendship breakups, and blondes

Hannah reveals the real behind the scenes of her day as a swimsuit model.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:33Hannah Berner?

  Where to next? I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space. It's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I mean, put that on a t-shirt for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Scary, fix your wifi.

• 3:36Hannah Berner?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my glamorous gigglers. We're on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Just kidding.

• 3:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, you looked so beautiful.

• 3:57Hannah Berner?

  Thank you.

• 3:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Like truly gorgeous and stunning.

• 4:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, thank you.

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And I loved that you were wearing like a men's shirt. No, it was just so like, you're like, yeah, this is my beach bitch. Like, that's how it felt.

• 4:10Hannah Berner?

  You have to say, I've been going to Montauk since I was a little girl.

• 4:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:13Hannah Berner?

  Let it go, running around, and it was a cool full circle moment, but I have to say, the only thing that really brings me joy in life is feeding the gig. I was gonna say feeding the gigglers. Like, I love when they like think, they don't think something's coming and then they get to wake up and see something that they didn't expect and they get all jacked up. Like, all I cared about was reading the comments of all the gigglers saying the funniest shit. They just make me laugh so much and I just can't believe we have this community of cool girls supporting us.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what, something that brings me joy is like, when you do something, it feels like I did it too, because I'm like, oh, all my exes are so jealous Hannah's. And it's illustrated and in my head, I'm like, do they care? And I'm like, yeah, they do.

• 4:59Hannah Berner?

  No, they do. Also, my Buffalo Wild Wings commercial, you know your exes were mad about that.

• 5:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I know they were mad about it.

• 5:05Hannah Berner?

  You know, because you can't think of me without thinking of you.

• 5:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And also, like, just knowing that like a bunch of exes were watching March Madness and then my best friend pops up on the TV and they're like, oh, Paige's friend.

• 5:16Hannah Berner?

  And then they're like nervous that your ad's gonna come up. So then they start just getting like paranoid.

• 5:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like double revenge and there's nothing, there's no sweeter words to me.

• 5:26Hannah Berner?

  It's so true. But you guys, that's what female friendship is. Like, when you surround yourself with badass women, like you take credit for their shit.

• 5:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's how it feels. I'm like.

• 5:35Hannah Berner?

  It's amazing. And you didn't even have to put on a bathing suit.

• 5:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And I didn't even have to go. I remember that shoot day, you were like, it's freezing. I'm like, I'm in bed, but this is great for us.

• 5:44Hannah Berner?

  And I do have to say, like, Sports Illustrated back in the day, I think it was like, it was a little more like male gazy.

• 5:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:51Hannah Berner?

  Like, it was very like for the hot girls and for the men to buy the magazines. I don't know, but Sports Illustrated swimsuit has evolved so much where like Serena Williams has done it. Like, all the WNBA girls are doing it. So when they asked me, at first I was like. Zara, are you sure?

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  But then I realized I do have a fat ass.

• 6:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 6:12Hannah Berner?

  And I was like.

• 6:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No, people, see, I say this all the time. People were like, wait, what?

• 6:19Hannah Berner?

  I think it got such a response because people were genuinely surprised.

• 6:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Genuinely?

• 6:25Hannah Berner?

  Genuinely.

• 6:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Generally.

• 6:26Hannah Berner?

  Gen- genuinely.

• 6:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, surprised.

• 6:29Hannah Berner?

  Surprised.

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  But I've been telling the gigglers, I'm like, no, she has huge boobs.

• 6:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no one, everyone's like, are you sure?

• 6:37Hannah Berner?

  But also, I'm gonna be real with y'all, and I know Zara, Zara Larson, Zara Larson said, sorry, I can't speak this morning.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  Said, um, she gets abs from giggling, which we do, which we do.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  But, nothing will get you in the gym more than knowing you have a Sports Illustrated shoot. And I know you guys remember me talking about Pilates during that time, which, by the way, I haven't done Pilates in like, three months. I've, I've been on tour, okay? But, um, that will get your ass out of bed when you're like, fifty fifty, should I go to the gym? When you're like, I need to look good for the gigglers. And, so shout out to Sound Body Hamptons in West Hampton. I literally went, my actual routine was like, four times a week. Because you act- you actually have, you can't do every day, like, you, even if it's just Pilates, you have to recover.

• 7:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:25Hannah Berner?

  And.

• 7:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm on a recovery right now.

• 7:30Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I'm on a full year of recovery.

• 7:32Paige DeSorbo?

  For eight years.

• 7:33Hannah Berner?

  You have to recover. I also was playing a lot of tennis because I had that Pro-Am coming up, that tournament. So I had to be training for that. I had a lot of pressure this summer.

• 7:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You were training this summer.

• 7:42Hannah Berner?

  Not related to anything that was like, making me any money. Like, not job-related. I had like, a lot of, I was in full training mode.

• 7:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you were.

• 7:50Hannah Berner?

  I also got a spray tan, which changes the game. Um, but I also just loved, at like, thirty-four, just, like, it's the best I've ever looked.

• 8:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like.

• 8:01Hannah Berner?

  I've never looked better.

• 8:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you ever think, like, oh, I'm gonna be in, like, when you were younger, because you were so sports-focused? Like, I don't, I didn't know Sports Illustrated was a thing, probably until like, my twenties.

• 8:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 8:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, did you always see it and think, like, oh, I want to be in Sports Illustrated?

• 8:17Hannah Berner?

  Quick story, when I was working as a sports reporter at Wisconsin, I had something like, kind of go viral of me interviewing. Frank Kaminsky and Barstool had written like an article about it and it ended up being like they kind of were like, oh, and look at this female sports reporter, like she's kind of cute, whatever. And I got a

• 8:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Barstool really gets away with whatever they want.

• 8:38Hannah Berner?

  I got a, this is such a like moment in time. I got a Facebook message from Barstool saying, do you want to be smoke show of the month?

• 8:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my God. That just unlocked a memory that I literally forgot I had.

• 8:54Hannah Berner?

  No, let me put you in

• 8:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I forgot that was a thing.

• 8:56Hannah Berner?

  Let me put you in like 20 year old Hannah's mind. I was aghast. I was offended.

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It was smoke show of the week.

• 9:05Hannah Berner?

  Smoke show of the week. Sorry. I was upset. Me and my best friend lesbian Becca were like, how dare they take my serious journalism career and just decide that they're gonna make me a smoke show? Also, do you think I had photos of me in bikinis on my Instagram? No, it was like me crying with a tennis racket.

• 9:22Paige DeSorbo?

  If I think back to smoke show of the week when we were in college, that was so.

• 9:28Hannah Berner?

  But I do think there were two types of girls. There's the girls that are like, I'm gonna monetize this. I know I'm hot and these dumb idiots are gonna like give me follows and like, cool. And then there's the girls, I think I was very anti, like I was, I was too, I was very feminist about it where I was like, how dare you? And I wrote, I think I wrote like a whole paragraph like, like not mean, but just basically like thank you, but like no thank you. I, I don't want to be a part of, of that kind of thing. So fast forward, like I never dreamed of being on Sports Illustrated. I never want, I'm gonna say this so clearly. Men wanting to have sex with me has never done anything for me. It's not a compliment. Men would have sex with

• 10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  An apple pie.

• 10:12Hannah Berner?

  An apple pie, a slightly warmed apple pie. Men have had sex with warm apple pies. So like, a man, a man just saying you're hot, a man saying he would fuck you. I, I don't care about it. It is not a compliment to me.

• 10:27Paige DeSorbo?

  The majority of the men I know can't read, so.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  Like, so that was not ever my goal. And I think maybe it's because of like,

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  My parents are like, I mean, definitely my mom being like the baddest bitch ever, but also my dad, like it was all just about like, are you working hard? Are you being kind? Are you? Like, I want to, I never want to impress my dad by like, looking pretty. My dad got mad when I looked pretty, he'd be like, where's the rest of your shirt?

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Our dads are so different. He's like, I can't look at you. Put something on that pimple.

• 10:58Hannah Berner?

  I will literally put on lipstick and he'll be like, you look like a clown. So I never wanted to do something that was male gaze oriented or like pick me in that way. Even though I've definitely done pick me shit in the past.

• 11:12Paige DeSorbo?

  We're not stronger than the patriarchy.

• 11:15Hannah Berner?

  When they approached me, like this, the like editor in chief is the coolest woman MJ and she was like, we are about women. Like showing off and being proud of like who they are and like, it does take, I guess, like a sense of confidence, which.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:32Hannah Berner?

  But Paige, your favorite thing to say about me is.

• 11:37Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't care?

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  What did you say about me? I literally forgot.

• 11:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Who are you?

• 11:44Hannah Berner?

  No, you said, you said my confidence needs to be studied.

• 11:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:47Hannah Berner?

  Which is so funny because I, in the caption, I forget people don't like do sarcasm all the time. But I was like, I'm so, so, so shy and this was so, so hard for me. And girls were messaging me like, I'm so happy you overcame your fear.

• 12:00Hannah Berner?

  They're like, you're so strong and like you did so well. Bitch, I was shaking my ass the whole time. They were like, okay, Hannah, you're done. You're, you can go.

• 12:07Paige DeSorbo?

  We got the shot 30 minutes ago, Hannah.

• 12:09Hannah Berner?

  No, I actually was nervous. I got to Montauk and I could hear there were like other girls there in the hotel. Which this was like bringing me back to like high school where you're like the new girl in school. Like everyone was already friends. Like I'm the rookie.

• 12:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And people, and other girls had shot for them.

• 12:25Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 12:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Prior, yeah.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  Yes. And I remember Remy Bader was there and she texted me like, do you want to come out and talk with us by the, the fire, like.

• 12:34Paige DeSorbo?

  The watering hole.

• 12:35Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, the watering hole. But like they were already giggling. So I'm like, I'm not fucking, like I literally got so socially anxious and I'm like, I'm going to sleep and watching a tennis channel. And that night I also remember I brought my razor. I remember thinking, you have to get every little speck. Cause also sports illustrated and we talked about it. I was like, I don't want a lot of editing. And they're like, we're not about that. But I was like, then I have to do some manual labor here. It took a long time.

• 12:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I can imagine.

• 13:00Hannah Berner?

  I found places I didn't know I had.

• 13:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:02Hannah Berner?

  So when I started the shoot, I was with Nicole Williams English.

• 13:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 13:06Hannah Berner?

  She is.

• 13:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I know who she is.

• 13:08Hannah Berner?

  She is.

• 13:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with, I've been obsessed with her for years. She was like the original on Wags.

• 13:14Hannah Berner?

  Really?

• 13:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 13:15Hannah Berner?

  See, I didn't know that. All I know is I walked in and like, she's like an AI Sports Illustrated model. Gorgeous from the tip of her head to her toenail.

• 13:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:25Hannah Berner?

  And then, the nicest, warmest human, literally was like, get in here, it's gonna be so much fun, you're gonna do great.

• 13:31Paige DeSorbo?

  She was always my favorite on the show. I think she has like two kids.

• 13:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, what's crazy is, we also had like, really fun chemistry together. You get partnered with her. Even though I wasn't in like shots with her, she was like my partner for the day. And we were just giggling, giggling, giggling, but.

• 13:45Paige DeSorbo?

  She's been with her husband for a while.

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 13:48Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like.

• 13:48Hannah Berner?

  She has kids?

• 13:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep, they have kids together.

• 13:50Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she's had babies and.

• 13:52Paige DeSorbo?

  She, when the show first started, she was like, we're not, I don't know if they were engaged yet, but it was all about like her wanting to get married. And everyone was so mean to her. Like, you'll never, he'll never marry you, like, you'll never stay together. And now like, fast forward like 10, 15 years, they're like still together.

• 14:10Hannah Berner?

  And not to be like, have respect for pretty people too, but like, people, you remember how they make you feel, not how they look? Like, I literally don't remember how she looked by the end of it. I just remembered like, a warm, smiley feeling. Shout out, Nicole, you're the shit. But, you're gonna die. So I'm, I'm so ready. They, they put, they put you in your little thing, your little bikini.

• 14:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Your outfit.

• 14:32Hannah Berner?

  I'm in like, a thong.

• 14:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:36Hannah Berner?

  And my ass is out.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:38Hannah Berner?

  Like, it's music video time. My mom's with me, of course.

• 14:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course. You need an adult on set. What if they try and take advantage of you?

• 14:46Hannah Berner?

  Full momager. She's literally like, you're doing amazing. She's looking at me, she's like, this, this is all Lenore wanted.

• 14:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:52Hannah Berner?

  Was for me to show off my body. She's like, finally, a good shoot.

• 14:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Me and her are similar.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  She's like, enough with these jorts.

• 15:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  So she's loving it. And she's, but she's also momagering it. She's like, eyebrows a little dark right now.

• 15:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:06Hannah Berner?

  Okay, she's, she's literally.

• 15:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Chin up, chin up.

• 15:10Hannah Berner?

  You're doing amazing, sweetie. Well, I leaned over with my ass crack out. So we get to this restaurant in Montauk. And I'm like, great, we're shooting at the restaurant. And they go, oh, actually, we're first gonna shoot in front of the sign. The sign is on the highway.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  There's cars driving through and Nicole's like, I'll go first. Throws off her jacket in a like thong bikini.

• 15:35Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't give enough respect to models.

• 15:37Hannah Berner?

  Standing, basically imagine you're on a highway and deciding I'm gonna stand here in a bikini.

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like you told Tyra, your family died in a car accident and she was like, you're on a highway.

• 15:48Hannah Berner?

  So I came in, I'm like, I could do anything.

• 15:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Hannah Berner?

  I've, I've been through a lot in my life. I can handle a bikini shoot.

• 15:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:56Hannah Berner?

  I'd look at my mom, I said, I don't know if I could do this. The men are honking at her.

• 16:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 16:02Hannah Berner?

  Cause she's.

• 16:02Paige DeSorbo?

  When did you shoot this? Cause you shot it in the.

• 16:04Hannah Berner?

  September 10th. So this was after like working out all summer.

• 16:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 16:08Hannah Berner?

  But like, let's be honest, I wasn't that intense. I wasn't like stopping eating.

• 16:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 16:11Hannah Berner?

  Like I ate all summer.

• 16:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. You didn't like get on a zumpak?

• 16:15Hannah Berner?

  No. So she's getting honked at and she's just working it. She doesn't give a shit. And these are like all types of men driving these cars and this is, I'm starting to get triggered. I'm like, I actually don't, first of all, they don't get the show for free.

• 16:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep. Also like, men are so stupid. They could be staring and then like go off the road.

• 16:34Hannah Berner?

  It's dangerous.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Like I've seen so many men fall down stairs because they're, actually someone almost got into a car accident the other day because they saw two men watching this girl cross the street.

• 16:44Hannah Berner?

  Forget drug driving. Keep your eye off people's butts. We had to change like bathing suits and they put me, they put me in a bathing suit. When I tell you, it didn't cover my pubes.

• 16:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't shave your back?

• 16:58Hannah Berner?

  I did, but like, you can only shave so well in the thick parts. Like it was a little stubby and I looked at my mom and I was like, my stubs are out.

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that they could edit.

• 17:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but then they got me, they literally had to pull out like a dermaplane thing and I was dermaplaning my pussy. This, I, I have a photo, maybe I'll put it in the, this is full, turn full OnlyFans in the newsletter. You could see the butt crack of my vagina. Do you know what I mean?

• 17:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:23Hannah Berner?

  Like it was that low.

• 17:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I know exactly what you mean.

• 17:28Hannah Berner?

  Like, it was hair that I couldn't even get if I tried.

• 17:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, I, the only other people that have seen this is me and God. Like I don't even know how to get down there.

• 17:38Hannah Berner?

  People don't talk about vagina cracks enough.

• 17:42Hannah Berner?

  And also I don't have a Kendall Jenner pussy. Like there's.

• 17:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You're at least Chloe.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, there's cleavage.

• 17:51Hannah Berner?

  So honestly, I had way too much fun, but the nerve wracking thing with it is you shoot. Obviously, I forgot about it. And then Sports Illustrated is like, they're very, uh, like

• 18:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Secretive?

• 18:03Hannah Berner?

  Secretive. You can't tell anyone anything. And then they were like, we'll tell you what photo we're dropping the day of. So I didn't know what photo they chose. Mind you, we shot for eight hours. Like, I shot in different locations. I have all these different looks. I posted the behind the scenes.

• 18:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Who's in charge of picking the photo?

• 18:20Hannah Berner?

  The night before, I was like, so excited it's gonna come out. And then I was like, what if I hit the photo?

• 18:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:26Hannah Berner?

  What if it's my right side of my face? Cause you know when other people pick your photo?

• 18:30Paige DeSorbo?

  It wasn't though, it was the left side.

• 18:32Hannah Berner?

  It was the left side, thank God. My hair was kind of Donald Trumpy.

• 18:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't feel that.

• 18:38Hannah Berner?

  It was a little like

• 18:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was beachy.

• 18:41Hannah Berner?

  It was beachy. I just have to say, I got lucky. God had my back on this bikini shoot.

• 18:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:48Hannah Berner?

  And they picked a photo that I loved, but it could have gone haywire.

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It really could have, but I don't think you probably took a bad photo that day.

• 18:56Hannah Berner?

  Shut up. How many shoots have you done where like, they shoot all day and then the article comes out and there's three photos and you're like, oh, that's the photo you choose?

• 19:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Honey, in my contracts, I get first approval.

• 19:08Hannah Berner?

  Do you?

• 19:08Paige DeSorbo?

  In some, well, sometimes, like if you're, sometimes if I'm working with a big brand, they'll be like, okay, here are the four shots, like pick your favorites.

• 19:17Hannah Berner?

  But I'm saying like press sometimes, like if you do like Marie Claire or like Glamour.

• 19:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:22Hannah Berner?

  It's like

• 19:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, let go and let God.

• 19:27Paige DeSorbo?

  New York Times or Washington Post, it's let go and let God. They're not letting you pick.

• 19:32Hannah Berner?

  You're not like, can I see some of them?

• 19:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And like those like news things, like they won't edit anything. Like, I remember New York Times, I was like, I have a massive pimple, honestly, in the same spot. And I was like, you have to edit it out. And they were like, we don't do that. Like, we can't.

• 19:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, you're fired.

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  Also, sometimes they'll pick a quote that they use. And it's always a quote that sounds like

• 19:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You sound like an idiot.

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  You sound like an, or I did sound, I did say something stupid. I'm like, why did we pick that one?

• 19:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I forget there was an article I did like over the past year and I was like, guys, I sound, I get why people hate me. I sound like a fourth grade reading level.

• 20:10Hannah Berner?

  I had one that was like, just believe in yourself so you can be more you and then you can do you. I was like, guys, you gotta

• 20:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, if the goal is to sell issues, it's not on this one, babe. It's certainly not here.

• 20:26Hannah Berner?

  Also, when you do take just a sentence out of context, it's so easy to sound like cocky or

• 20:33Paige DeSorbo?

  There are also some situations where like if you work with big brands, like they hire the stylist and you have no say on things. So there's a lot of things where I'm like,

• 20:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, okay, so you want everyone to hate me. You know that everyone's gonna say that I look disgusting and that's what you want for me.

• 20:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, the truth is you're getting booked because they know everyone wants to see what you wear.

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And then I'm like, the girls are gonna have a field day with this one.

• 21:00Hannah Berner?

  I've walked into things where like they pick stuff for me and you, but they don't know what we're gonna do. And then they go, well, Paige picked this and we have to go off of Paige's decisions. And I'm like, whatever.

• 21:09Paige DeSorbo?

  See, those are my favorite shoots.

• 21:10Hannah Berner?

  Whatever makes her day go smoother, as long as I don't have a side part. Yesterday was like, kind of crazy. I wasn't expecting it. I was just hoping my photo didn't bomb because that's like embarrassing to post. If you never post a bikini photo, then you do and everyone's like, no, thank you.

• 21:26Paige DeSorbo?

  It was not going to bomb. Sports Illustrated has a reputation.

• 21:30Hannah Berner?

  I did get a couple body positivity comments, which triggered.

• 21:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you know, I hate those.

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  I hate them. They're like, they're just like, thank you for representing like body positivity. And someone's like, thank you for not using GLP1s. And I'm like, and I get it.

• 21:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that I, now I'm like, that is a compliment. One made like, I forget what it was. It wasn't a TikTok. Where did I see it? Maybe it was a reel.

• 22:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever. It was, I'm pretty sure she was making a video for like a publication, but I can't remember, whatever. And she was saying how women's body standards, like they're always changing and they're always different where like men's hasn't changed and like women being mothers, their expectation is always changing. It's only gotten like more insane where men's expectations of being fathers like hasn't changed in the like that much in the past couple of years. But she was talking about how in the nineties, it was like super into be super, super skinny and that was like unattainable for a lot of people. So that was the beauty standard. Now that GLP ones,

• 22:42Paige DeSorbo?

  everyone can be super skinny if they want to be. What will be the new body standard? And so I was looking at the comments and a lot of the comments were like, it's gonna be muscles because everyone can be skinny now or everyone could get a BBL.

• 22:58Hannah Berner?

  Well, muscles is what people lose when they do GLP ones.

• 23:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And so it was just like a very interesting, cause I was like, I wonder if that will turn true.

• 23:08Hannah Berner?

  They always have to have a hierarchy. Like if other people can get it, then it's like you're not at the top.

• 23:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. It has to be unattainable.

• 23:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Cause once people realize that you could just buy boobs and asses.

• 23:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just gonna be like joining bodybuilding competitions.

• 23:21Hannah Berner?

  That's why everyone's selling fucking protein popcorn. Shout out Khlo.

• 23:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, oh.

• 23:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, everything's protein now.

• 23:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that why?

• 23:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's cause I think this is, okay, guys, this is a science podcast, but this is a theory. Because everyone's on GLP one. And by everyone, I mean just more people than there used to be.

• 23:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:40Hannah Berner?

  You lose muscle mass. So people are eating more protein to try to make up for the muscle mass that they think they're losing, I think.

• 23:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Did they tell you about when I was on the beach the other day and a lady pulled out a thing of cottage cheese?

• 23:55Hannah Berner?

  Was that me?

• 23:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I was literally sitting on the beach and someone next to me pulled out, just out of her beach bag. It's an 85 degrees. Out of her non insulated, like woven beach bag, pulled out a thing of cottage cheese and ate it with a spoon. And I was just like.

• 24:16Hannah Berner?

  Literally, I want to know everything about that girl. I'm obsessed with her.

• 24:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt the opposite. I was like, something weird's going on.

• 24:23Hannah Berner?

  I didn't say something weird wasn't going on. I just, I want to get to know her.

• 24:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Full on gossiping with her friend. I was like.

• 24:28Hannah Berner?

  And the friend didn't even comment on it.

• 24:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Not us for a second.

• 24:30Hannah Berner?

  They're sharing.

• 24:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And she ordered food.

• 24:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 24:34Paige DeSorbo?

  And so I was like, a snack before a snack. I love that. I just like, wasn't expecting it to be cottage cheese.

• 24:40Hannah Berner?

  I had cottage cheese in my fridge and I hadn't opened it, but it's been around for a while. And then I realized like, regardless if it's good or not, it always looks like it went bad. Like if it's in my fridge more than five days, it's went bad. It's just cheese that went bad, but I love cottage cheese. Shout out to cheese.

• 24:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like we're on the extreme ends with that. Like I'm throwing something away two days before it expired.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm eating anything that doesn't have like, growths on it.

• 25:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:10Hannah Berner?

  But Dez is like you, Dez is throwing shit away and I'm like, okay, okay.

• 25:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Like people will walk in and be like, where's my?

• 25:18Hannah Berner?

  My mom was obsessed with leftovers.

• 25:20Paige DeSorbo?

  You threw out the milk, didn't you? Yeah, I did.

• 25:23Hannah Berner?

  That's the fights I've had. I was like, Dez, that wasn't bad. And he was like, Google it. And I'm like,

• 25:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I think because my mom was like that growing up, like if there was leftover dinner in the refrigerator, you could only eat it the next day. She wasn't letting you eat it two days after.

• 25:41Hannah Berner?

  I get it if you've had like a traumatizing food poisoning experience inflicted upon yourself.

• 25:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever had food poisoning?

• 25:50Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I have subtle, I've microdosed food poisoning.

• 25:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, that's how I feel. I don't think I've ever had it full on.

• 25:58Hannah Berner?

  I may have.

• 25:59Paige DeSorbo?

  What I'm really asking is have you ever shit and thrown up at the same time?

• 26:02Hannah Berner?

  I've had it at Thanksgiving once, which honestly felt amazing after. I highly recommend. But yeah, I remember it was coming out of like every orifice.

• 26:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway.

• 26:14Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:32Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:14Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:30Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:59Paige DeSorbo?

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• 29:44Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:54Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:10Hannah Berner?

  I'm finally with the Sports Illustrated.

• 32:14Hannah Berner?

  Also, Dez is so annoyed with me. Everyone's like, Dez must be loving it. I'm literally like, have you ever been with a Sports Illustrated spinster model before?

• 32:21Paige DeSorbo?

  You just make him a calendar.

• 32:23Hannah Berner?

  He's like, okay, calm down. My head is so... I'm like, Sports Illustrated model's hair!

• 32:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I guess I have to walk in the show next year.

• 32:31Hannah Berner?

  No, I got a pimple and I was like, I can't have a pimple on the Sports Illustrated. Question me. I want to show that women can be funny and depressed and anxious and a boss and scared and gorgeous.

• 32:44Paige DeSorbo?

  We have layers to our personality. We're not just one thing. Don't put me in a box.

• 32:47Hannah Berner?

  A hun- I hate being put in a box and I love like just when people think they know what box I'm in to change the box.

• 32:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the same thing of people that are like, oh, you think I'm like a quiet person. You just don't have access to my full personality. And that like I so, like, that's why I'm fine being a different version of someone in other people's stories. Cause I'm like, you don't even know me. Like you don't get full access.

• 33:11Hannah Berner?

  That's why I love the gigglers. Cause I feel like they do get a lot of access. So when sometimes people say stuff about us, they go to like, you guys are so far off. You don't even know.

• 33:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone commented something me. I don't even know what it was like. They're stupid or like something. And the gigglers were like, actually, we're all really funny and cool. Oh, it was like a comment about the gigglers. It wasn't even about us. And they were, and if they're gonna go hard for something, it's for them. They're like, actually, we're all really educated.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  We're in the Smithsonian.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  It's a bit. You have to be smart to make fun of yourself.

• 33:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a woman of STEM of the week.

• 33:48Hannah Berner?

  Wait, it's Paige's first ever woman of STEM of the week.

• 33:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And you're not even gonna guess what it is.

• 33:53Hannah Berner?

  That's my favorite.

• 33:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the entire WNBA. They are all my women of STEM of the week.

• 34:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what they did. What they do, they get, they're getting paid.

• 34:05Hannah Berner?

  They're getting paid and it's the first time ever that a first round draft pick is getting like 500K.

• 34:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I think one girl is getting.

• 34:13Hannah Berner?

  Ozzy Fudd.

• 34:14Paige DeSorbo?

  A million.

• 34:16Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you know the lore of Ozzy Fudd?

• 34:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but what a name.

• 34:18Hannah Berner?

  She's gorgeous and she just um got drafted to Dallas. You know who's at Dallas? Paige Becker's, who is.

• 34:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I love her.

• 34:29Hannah Berner?

  Who is, was the number one draft pick last year. Who's a full star. And guess what? Paige and Ozzy are dating.

• 34:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, then I do know who she is.

• 34:39Hannah Berner?

  They're iconic together.

• 34:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did they just start dating or have they been?

• 34:42Hannah Berner?

  They've been dating.

• 34:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but like low key.

• 34:44Hannah Berner?

  But it was like on the low and then they literally interviewed her and they're like, are you excited to go to Dallas with Paige? And she was like so cute about it. She was just like, yeah, I respect Paige as a person and an athlete.

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  There was something about Paige Becker's like on the internet and everyone was like tagging me in it and they were like, oh, like she went to like a basketball game like with a hoodie on like incognito and everyone thought, people were like, wait, this is Paige DeSorbo? They were like Paige would never wear this.

• 35:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, if I'm sitting courtside, you're gonna see it.

• 35:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna go to incognito courtside at the Knicks with some respect.

• 35:19Hannah Berner?

  I've actually never seen you incognito.

• 35:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Who am I hiding from?

• 35:24Hannah Berner?

  That's not a font in your dictionary.

• 35:27Paige DeSorbo?

  We have some blonde on blonde crime happening. Blonde on blonde crime is so interesting to me because I stay far away from it. It's blonde on blonde is very different.

• 35:39Hannah Berner?

  When you put it like that, it's so true and so funny. Some were saying it's white girl on white girl crime, which is true, but this is also.

• 35:46Paige DeSorbo?

  This is another layer.

• 35:47Hannah Berner?

  This is another layer.

• 35:48Paige DeSorbo?

  This is an upper level.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  An umbrella of that umbrella.

• 35:51Paige DeSorbo?

  There's white girl crime.

• 35:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 35:52Paige DeSorbo?

  And then there's blonde on blonde.

• 35:54Hannah Berner?

  Blonde on blonde.

• 35:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Two brunettes, different.

• 35:57Hannah Berner?

  Two brunettes, your ass got beat.

• 36:01Hannah Berner?

  Staying to your ass beat or staying to your ass beat?

• 36:04Paige DeSorbo?

  That's brunette, blonde on blonde, blonde on blonde. CIA, FBI, things are subtle, things are.

• 36:12Hannah Berner?

  The passive aggressiveness?

• 36:16Hannah Berner?

  As a brunette, I can't process it.

• 36:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And this is why it makes me upset that people, that there's like the joke, like a dumb blonde, because I have not met a dumb blonde in 15, 20 years.

• 36:26Hannah Berner?

  Are they both, they're both actual blondes, I think.

• 36:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I think they're both, they're both, yeah. That's another layer, layer to it. Fake blonde on blonde crime.

• 36:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Very diabolical.

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  That's another umbrella.

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Born blonde on blonde, same name too. Speaking of blondes, Cate Blanchett is set to play Martha Stewart in a biopic.

• 36:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Which I couldn't think of a better casting.

• 36:55Hannah Berner?

  I love that.

• 36:56Paige DeSorbo?

  My gripe with it, I don't want just a movie. I re- because what part of her life-

• 37:03Hannah Berner?

  You want a TV comedy series?

• 37:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I want a full, yeah, I want a full season.

• 37:08Hannah Berner?

  Like Bridgerton?

• 37:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I want eight to 10 episodes.

• 37:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you can't-

• 37:11Hannah Berner?

  She has so many eras.

• 37:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can't put her whole life in one movie at all. Like, and what era are you picking? Jail? Or are you picking the early years?

• 37:23Hannah Berner?

  What if we just do Jail? I'd watch that. It's just Orange is the New Florals with Martha Stewart.

• 37:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I just, I just think it needs to be- I think it needs to be longer than a movie.

• 37:36Hannah Berner?

  For sure. Well, she, also people forget that she was a finance girl. She worked in the stocks.

• 37:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I want them, I want Cate Blanchett in Italy, on her honeymoon, making out with someone-

• 37:49Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 37:50Paige DeSorbo?

  in a cathedral and being like, get over it.

• 37:53Hannah Berner?

  Oh my gosh. It is crazy that you get to a point in your life where people start like writing books about it and like you start winning like awards and like people do movies about like your, like it must be a weird feeling. It's like, I'm still alive. Like I'm still here.

• 38:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, when I was at this actor awards, um, what you call it, got lifetime achievement, Harrison Ford. And he got up on stage and he was like, I'm alive.

• 38:20Hannah Berner?

  It's one thing if like you're on your deathbed, but like he's in a full top TV show right now.

• 38:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Like the star of an Apple series.

• 38:28Hannah Berner?

  It is nice to appreciate things. Do you think you're good at, cause me and you, let's be honest. We are always working. We're always like, how can we do better? We're always trying to improve things. We're hard on ourselves. Do you think you're good at celebrating wins?

• 38:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No. Not at all. It's something I really need to dive into in therapy, but I've got so many other things.

• 38:50Hannah Berner?

  I know, there's so many things going on. I can't be stressed about celebrating wins. But I also think about like, when you think of good things that happened to you, you're like, "Oh, should I sat in that longer?" Because one thing people don't talk about, you see people win championships and people win awards. Sometimes it really is fleeting. Like, it really feels like thirty seconds, then you're already stressed about what you're doing the next day.

• 39:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I feel like it's also very fleeting because of the internet.

• 39:15Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 39:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Because the internet is on to the next thing, and then it's like, "What has she even done? Is she even successful?"

• 39:22Hannah Berner?

  Are we still talking about this?

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like...

• 39:25Hannah Berner?

  No, truly. Like, let us have a W.

• 39:27Paige DeSorbo?

  The only time I get annoyed is when someone ever tries to like, say that my success comes from any type of man, like any man in the entire world.

• 39:36Hannah Berner?

  Another chapter.

• 39:36Paige DeSorbo?

  So that's the only time where I'm like, "Actually, bitch, I'm a New York Times bestselling author."

• 39:41Hannah Berner?

  You guys, there's another version of Giggly Squad where we, after Denver, said, "We're not doing this anymore."

• 39:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Hannah Berner?

  You were like, "I'm traumatized."

• 39:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 39:51Hannah Berner?

  It could have caused, like, you to not want to do the pod.

• 39:55Paige DeSorbo?

  In an alternate universe somewhere, I'm like, pregnant and laying on the couch and like scrolling...

• 40:02Hannah Berner?

  Which does sound quite peaceful.

• 40:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that does sound nice. Scrolling Instagram, being like, "I could have done that, and I could have done this."

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  But you like, push through despite a lot of difficulties.

• 40:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:14Hannah Berner?

  Where men were involved. Which I do have to shout out to myself. I did say, "You don't have stage fright. This is other things."

• 40:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And you were right, which actually brings me to a great segue. I wrote in my notes Emma, and I remember who it was.

• 40:27Hannah Berner?

  I knew her.

• 40:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Emma Grade. Just put her book out.

• 40:30Hannah Berner?

  So like...

• 40:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that why I love her so much?

• 40:32Hannah Berner?

  Because she sounds like so freaking smart. Every time she talks, she looks amazing. Well, she also is running like multiple million, million dollar companies.

• 40:42Paige DeSorbo?

  But she has a book out, and, or it's coming out.

• 40:46Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:47Paige DeSorbo?

  So she's doing all like book press tour, and one of the number one things she said that like...

• 40:51Hannah Berner?

  Can you cough?

• 40:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 40:53Hannah Berner?

  Thank you.

• 40:58Hannah Berner?

  A frog in your throat.

• 41:00Paige DeSorbo?

  One time now, all of a sudden is a monster on set. I didn't wear makeup for the first time in seven weeks and she's like, you're disgusting.

• 41:12Hannah Berner?

  Okay, get the frog out, let's go.

• 41:13Paige DeSorbo?

  She said that she, and people are like, okay, wasn't that funny?

• 41:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she said, she's been like doing all these interviews and I don't know if this was from the book. It must have been from the book. It's like one of the quotes they pulled and she said, I'm a three hour mom. And people were like, oh, like up in arms about it. And so she explains it where she's like, I work Monday through Friday and then if I wake up in the morning and I'm with my kids all morning on Saturday and we're doing the birthday parties and we're hanging out and we're playing with cars on the rug. Then at a certain point, I have to go run errands. Like I need to do things for myself for the next week of work. And she was like, and that's not a crazy thing to say. Like she's really.

• 42:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, I would argue she, she isn't really a three hour mom and that all the stuff she's doing is also to provide for her family. To be a mom, but she also was, I, I saw a part of that clip where she was like, I also want to be realistic with women. I don't want them thinking that I'm doing all these mothering things while I'm also in all these meetings, while I'm also running these companies and making them feel shit about themselves. You have to prioritize your time. Also, if a dad said I'm a three hour dad, everyone would be like, oh, because he's working so hard for the family.

• 42:29Paige DeSorbo?

  That's the thing, like a, a man wouldn't even have to say that when he had a baby.

• 42:35Hannah Berner?

  No one would ask how many hours. They'd be like, did you try?

• 42:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 42:39Hannah Berner?

  Like once?

• 42:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so crazy.

• 42:41Hannah Berner?

  She's a badass though. I really like her too.

• 42:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I really like her. She has a podcast and she, um, she just wears a cute outfit. I'm obsessed with it.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  I love it. How we both like the same person, but it's always for different reasons. You're like, did you see her shoes?

• 42:55Paige DeSorbo?

  She's gorgeous.

• 42:57Hannah Berner?

  She is gorgeous.

• 42:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I could just stare at her.

• 43:01Hannah Berner?

  Dez and I did celebrate.

• 43:05Hannah Berner?

  The end of my tour, which ended up being sixty eight shows.

• 43:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 43:11Hannah Berner?

  I know. And I went to the dentist yesterday.

• 43:13Paige DeSorbo?

  You grind your teeth a lot?

• 43:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you have to bring that up. To like get a cleaning and my Invisalign. And they were, they like were disappointed in me. You know, they can't help it. They're just like, you need to floss more. Like, are you flossing? I'm like, I don't not floss, but I'm not like doing it every time after I eat. And the lady was like, you gotta floss. And then at one, the one point was like, she was like, why did you stop using your Invisalign trays? And I looked at her and she didn't know like who I was or anything or what I do. And I just said, I had sixty eight shows.

• 43:45Hannah Berner?

  And she looked at me.

• 43:45Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to talk.

• 43:46Hannah Berner?

  I had sixty eight shows and I, I forgot it a couple of trips. The next thing you know, it was hurting when I put it in. And then I just stopped because I want to get a good night's sleep. And the lady was like, okay, we don't need all the details. But like.

• 43:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I hated Botox. I was like, sorry, my job is to speak.

• 44:00Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm a three hour Invisalign per day, girl.

• 44:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And that's enough. And that should be enough.

• 44:05Hannah Berner?

  That should be enough. I think I might have to get a permanent underneath because I crowd easily, but I digress. Does and I were like, let's go to dinner, which is hard as a married couple because you're like, we could easily order in. We could eas- I'll have cereal. I don't give a fuck. Like, I don't want to put on clothes. But he's like, you have to work on celebrating when you do something. And he's good at that. Like, he's like, when he finishes tours, they'd, they had this, they'd always go out for Chinese food. It was like their thing. And like, you have to create your own traditions is what I'm realizing. And I think you're good at that.

• 44:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Your own fun.

• 44:37Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Like, you have to romanticize your life because no one is gonna do it for you. And it doesn't, it never feels good unless you want to feel it.

• 44:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And no one really talks about, I mean, they do, but like not in depth of like the friend shift in your thirties. In my twenties and in my thirties in New York, it's not like I had a friend group of girls that like, they were all friends. Like, I had two girls that were friends. And then I had like, a friend over here that I would go out with that like, didn't really know those girls, but like, okay, if we were all out at dinner. But I never had like, a five person group chat where we were all friends. It was all girls.

• 45:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you just meet different people in different parts of your life. And so it is interesting now, being thirty three, not married with no kids. And it's like, how do you hang out? Like they have to make time, you have to make time. Then you have to figure out something that like benefits both of you. That isn't like, like, I don't want to call my friend and be like, let's go to a Pilates class. You know, like, because we're not talking for that hour. We're just in the same room.

• 45:45Hannah Berner?

  But I also feel like when you hang out in your 30s, it like means more because you're like, holy shit, like you are take, we're in your twenties, you'll fall into someone's couch.

• 45:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Like my one girlfriend, Dominique, like we've been trying to hang out for, I'm not kidding, a year.

• 45:58Hannah Berner?

  And when you actually do, it's gonna feel so good and like be quality time. And you just know these people fuck with you because you know that like they could be hanging out with their family.

• 46:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They could be with their kids.

• 46:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 47:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:25Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:56Hannah Berner?

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• 50:51Hannah Berner?

  And I also have to say about your thirties, not to cause drama, but in your thirties, once the things you've been chasing start to like come to fruition.

• 50:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:00Hannah Berner?

  You, people treat you differently.

• 51:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  People treat you differently. Like you, it gets, it can be lonely. Like when, when, ooh, I saw a quote that I wrote down that um, I think was probably TikTok. Ooh, it said, make sure you pick friends who love their life or they'll end up hating yours.

• 51:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wait. That is really deep.

• 51:25Hannah Berner?

  Cause I.

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I would say that with dating too.

• 51:27Hannah Berner?

  Yes. I surround myself with people who like.

• 51:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Like what they do.

• 51:31Hannah Berner?

  Like what they do. Cause it's not about success. It's not about money. It's about, is this person like alive when they talk about what they're up to? I have some friends who.

• 51:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, like who they're with.

• 51:42Hannah Berner?

  Oh, those are, and those are my favorite people because I call them and they're happy in their relationship. They have, and I have some people, they have jobs that like I would be so bad at and I, I don't know how they get through the day. It's what they love to do.

• 51:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You absolutely love real estate.

• 51:57Hannah Berner?

  I know, like I'm next level. And I know that when I started discovering stand up. Like it it caused issues with people who I think they saw me, even though I wasn't like immediately popping off with it at all.

• 52:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:11Hannah Berner?

  They saw that at least I was like chasing something that I wanted and instead of them chasing what they wanted, they just started like ne- having negative energy towards me.

• 52:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and a lot of men.

• 52:22Hannah Berner?

  Well, stand up triggers a lot of men.

• 52:23Paige DeSorbo?

  A lot of men were like visibly mad at you.

• 52:27Hannah Berner?

  Visibly about the stand up thing.

• 52:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:29Hannah Berner?

  It was very funny, actually.

• 52:31Paige DeSorbo?

  It was very funny.

• 52:32Hannah Berner?

  Very, very funny.

• 52:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Chill out. My mom has said this from like when we were little and now it like has come into my adult life and she would always say, my child's success does not take away from your child's success. Like whenever there was like a girl that was like jealous or mean or whatever, she would be like, what you're doing isn't taking it away from them. They can also do it. And like now as an adult, it's even more true of like what I'm doing isn't, I'm not taking your spot. And it was so interesting because anytime I've ever felt jealous of someone else, it's more that I'm like, why didn't I also work toward doing that?

• 53:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not like that person in particular. It's more like, oh, I think I could do that too.

• 53:19Hannah Berner?

  And I realize a lot of people feel jealousy because you think people don't deserve what they're getting.

• 53:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 53:24Hannah Berner?

  You don't know what that person did to get there.

• 53:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 53:27Hannah Berner?

  And try to tell yourself, I don't know what they did with closed doors. I don't know what they're dealing with. I'm looking at Instagram and I'm I'm putting a whole narrative and story around them. They earned it and I'm gonna earn mine. So now I'm celebrating with Dez at this dinner. And it was interesting dinner where like it wasn't omakase, which by the way, I've never done omakase. Have you done omakase before?

• 53:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I had never done it before and I did it one time and like, I don't know, I was like twenty three years old and I had no idea what it was.

• 53:58Hannah Berner?

  Why are you throwing octopus at me?

• 53:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like on a date. I had no idea it was even expensive. I was like for this little thing. So I had no idea. I remember I hated the date. And I got in an Uber.

• 54:11Hannah Berner?

  That's probably like a thousand dollars.

• 54:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Easily. I had no idea. I get in an Uber, I call my girlfriend, I'm like, where are you? I just had like a horrible date, I'm gonna meet you.

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I'm starving, do you want McDonald's?

• 54:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I went to the bar, the guy texted me and was like, did you seriously go out after our date? And I was like, he was like, I took you to Omakase. I was like, I didn't, I don't even like that restaurant.

• 54:33Hannah Berner?

  You're never asked for an Omakase.

• 54:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, I didn't know. Also, if you take me to an expensive dinner, that you're not then owed something after. What year is this?

• 54:44Hannah Berner?

  It takes a long time. That's like a three hour dinner, babe.

• 54:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it takes so long.

• 54:48Hannah Berner?

  And I know you, you like a little snack.

• 54:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I've had seven Diet Coke.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  But this, but this wasn't Omakase, but it was one of those where you sit at the bar and you could see people like cooking and it was like kinda fancy. And they had like a wine sommelier, which I'm obsessed with wine sommeliers.

• 55:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Pronounce that correctly.

• 55:08Hannah Berner?

  I'm new to this with them, cause I'm like, you're, you're like, this is my life's passion.

• 55:13Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a male dominated area that women are really starting to um get into.

• 55:17Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what's crazy? Male wine sommelier, the whole kitchen, men. And I turned to Des and I go, this is just, why are they all men? Why are all the men, the chefs, men?

• 55:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:28Hannah Berner?

  Like, like women, don't tell me women can't cook.

• 55:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 55:32Hannah Berner?

  Cause people say women can't do chess, don't tell me they can't cook.

• 55:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:34Hannah Berner?

  Like, let's, let's get our, our tubes in order. So, so anyway, this guy's the wine sommelier, so I'm just watching him, fascinated by his mustache.

• 55:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:42Hannah Berner?

  Can't stop looking at him.

• 55:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I was supposed to get my pimple injected the other day, but I didn't go, cause I popped it kind of, and then I got nervous, but then I should have gone. Anyway.

• 55:52Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for that intrusive thought. Let it out. When it comes, let it out.

• 55:56Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my place. I let it out. And I didn't wear makeup today because I just like, I couldn't. Anyway, keep going.

• 56:02Hannah Berner?

  Back to the wine sommelier.

• 56:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:04Hannah Berner?

  Do you know that these guys taste the wine?

• 56:08Hannah Berner?

  And then spit it back out?

• 56:10Paige DeSorbo?

  What? At the restaurant?

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So the guy's job, he like opens something, and I guess to like explain what the wine tastes like, they take a sip.

• 56:17Paige DeSorbo?

  In front of you?

• 56:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they take a sip.

• 56:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never seen that.

• 56:19Hannah Berner?

  And they go. And he like does this weird thing and then he takes this bl- this black cup thing and spits it out. And I said, oh, I turned to Desi, go, that man just spit out. And he goes, yeah, he can't be drinking wine all night. He'll get blackout. And I'm like, I've never seen that before.

• 56:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Never seen them do that at the table.

• 56:38Hannah Berner?

  I think they do it behind the scenes normally, but because it was like Omakase style, the guy, the bartender was just like right there. I was like, I could see you. That's like, you know, when you eat a chicken and you hit a weird thing. You're like, I'm gonna get this all out. And like, no one looks and you like spit it out in the napkin.

• 56:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That was so niche, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 56:56Hannah Berner?

  I'm actually done with this meal.

• 56:59Hannah Berner?

  Cause a piece of cartilage touched my tooth.

• 57:01Paige DeSorbo?

  If when the chicken starts tasting like chicken, I gotta go.

• 57:04Hannah Berner?

  Oh, when I, and it could be the tiniest piece of cartilage. I said, I'm out. That's an animal.

• 57:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:09Hannah Berner?

  Um, so just want to let you know that's happening out there in these streets. These men are out here like spitting.

• 57:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. I didn't know that that was happening, but I did know that like their test to become that, like a sommelier, is like one of the most insane tests ever. Like they just give you a glass of wine. You have to say the year, the region, and like what it, so it could be like, oh, fifteen sixty-two. Like, that's insane.

• 57:38Hannah Berner?

  I mean, I, I love when people love something so niche and it brings them joy, but also it's like, at some point you're like, this is alcoholism.

• 57:49Hannah Berner?

  You're not a wine sommelier, okay? You fucking wanna go on wine tastings like every weekend? Okay, that's, call a therapist.

• 58:01Hannah Berner?

  Why? So that's like me saying, oh yeah, I'm a cocaine sommelier. Let me sniff that. I'll blow it out after.

• 58:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It is a crazy profession. I wonder if they make a lot of money.

• 58:11Hannah Berner?

  I think they have to if like it causes, there's so much training involved.

• 58:15Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a lot of training.

• 58:16Hannah Berner?

  But then there's a lot of training to be on a teacher and they don't pay them.

• 58:20Hannah Berner?

  Period.

• 58:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Clock it. Oh my god.

• 58:22Hannah Berner?

  Tell me.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  The clavicle guy that like, oh, can't get enough of because he's just so insane.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 58:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Brought to the hospital last night, overdosed.

• 58:29Hannah Berner?

  Well, he loves drama.

• 58:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, he does math.

• 58:33Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Also, someone messaged me that and was like, morechess.com drama. So the girls are getting confused with all the nerdy brown haired men.

• 58:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Clavicle just like really like, there's just some, I'm so fascinated on whatever the fuck that subset of the internet is.

• 58:49Hannah Berner?

  It's fascinating, but it's scary.

• 58:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it should be illegal. You can't go on the internet and tell a bunch of sixteen year old kids that they should do math.

• 58:58Hannah Berner?

  He's a looks maxing meth sommelier.

• 59:01Paige DeSorbo?

  That's like where, and he, he's from Jersey. And that upsets me because I'm like, I know his mother is somewhere really upset.

• 59:12Hannah Berner?

  Really upset or enabling him. Being like, he's, he's a sweet boy.

• 59:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:18Hannah Berner?

  He's working on some stuff. Clavicle, we hope you get sober. We hope you love yourself as just for you.

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally don't give a shit, but I just think it's crazy that this is like, that he's getting so.

• 59:31Hannah Berner?

  Also, I didn't tell you something I just want to tell you to wrap this up.

• 59:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:34Hannah Berner?

  We're going to Devil Wears Prada premiere on Monday. I'm bringing my mom.

• 59:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 59:39Hannah Berner?

  Can you bring Kim?

• 59:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm bringing Lucho, so we have.

• 59:44Hannah Berner?

  Okay, well, that makes sense, too.

• 59:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Who's gonna take pictures of us?

• 59:49Hannah Berner?

  I know. Yeah, we can't have Lenore on photo duty.

• 59:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That actually makes me sad because I didn't even think to bring my mom.

• 59:58Hannah Berner?

  Normally, I'd bring Haley.

• 59:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:00Hannah Berner?

  But my mom was like free, which she rarely is.

• 1:00:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Usually I bring Josephine, but she's god knows where doing god knows what. She literally quit and was like, I'm going on vacation. Okay, I haven't seen her in a month.

• 1:00:12Hannah Berner?

  Anyway, we love you guys. Thanks for getting with us and have an amazing weekend. Bye.

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