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• 1:37Speaker 04

  Sup, Giggler? Jerry, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 1:47Speaker 04

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 1:51Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my glorious gigglers. We have a special episode and I know that you guys are like cats. You don't want to be scared, so I'm gonna slowly introduce this to you. We do have a guest later on.

• 2:02Hannah Berner?

  She's an aura reader who's gonna aura read our cats.

• 2:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's important to us.

• 2:08Hannah Berner?

  Obviously. Like, I know you guys saw that coming. It's happening. The admin was hard, but we made it happen.

• 2:15Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't do guests. We don't. Unless they're bringing something to the table that's important to us specifically.

• 2:22Hannah Berner?

  Unless you're telling me what my cat is thinking when I wake up in the morning, I have no interest.

• 2:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I have zero interest in getting to know you. Unless it's Daphne-related. Like, I don't care.

• 2:35Hannah Berner?

  So, towards the end of the pod, Mystic Michaela will be coming on with some incredible reads. Red us to filth, actually. Per usual. It was so much fun. Also, you turned into full Italian mom this weekend.

• 2:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Did I?

• 2:53Hannah Berner?

  This weekend. You go, "Turn off your Instagram location."

• 2:59Hannah Berner?

  That's so scary.

• 3:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I got a text from someone being like, "Hey, double-check if you have your Instagram location on." And I was like, "First of all, what the fuck is an Instagram location?" And then I go and I do whatever the steps are. And I am always very cautious on like, where I am, when I'm posting. Like, I'm never really posting in real time just because like, I don't want these people to ever really know where I am.

• 3:27Hannah Berner?

  One thing that sucks about our business is we realize we attract the crazies. They want to talk about us. They want to be... We attract the crazies. We also attract the greatest gigglers in the world, but it comes with a catch.

• 3:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a give and take. It's a give and take. And here's the thing, the internet, anyone can say anyone and you're like, okay. And so sometimes it's just like very scared. Like you get in situations and you're like, okay, I kind of got myself in this situation, but like this is scary. So like, things like this matter to me on like where I am and what I'm doing.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  Well, I saw a meme that said Ted Bundy would love the new Instagram update. And I said, what does that mean?

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm just, in my head, what is, and here's the other thing, they didn't tell anyone, I feel like.

• 4:10Hannah Berner?

  That's, yeah, it's not okay. It's cuz Snapchat does it, I think, which now I'm worried about my Snapchat. I didn't even think of that, never came across my desk.

• 4:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even have a Snapchat.

• 4:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you think you're better than me?

• 4:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Well.

• 4:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a little?

• 4:26Hannah Berner?

  Look, I just don't know how to delete it.

• 4:29Paige DeSorbo?

  So I will, wait, actually, you know what? I think I do have a Snapchat because every once in a while, someone tries to break into it. And I'm like, go for it, I don't give a fuck.

• 4:38Hannah Berner?

  You get that text being like Snapchat login in Seattle, Washington.

• 4:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, look, you freak, like just post whatever you want, I don't care.

• 4:44Hannah Berner?

  Also, people would be like, wow, this girl never leaves her bed. That's what they would see if they follow my Instagram location. No, but anyway, that's scary. And if you don't want people to know where you are, turn off your Instagram location, please, please, please. Cause you're all really beautiful and smart and funny.

• 5:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Google the steps. Also, I'm sorry, that like, obviously is specifically 10 times scarier for women. Like, we always have an ex we're trying to avoid, get away from, hide from. Like imagine he was just like, oh, there she is. Like, I don't know. That's so scary.

• 5:20Hannah Berner?

  Well, look at us raising awareness.

• 5:23Paige DeSorbo?

  No, truly.

• 5:23Hannah Berner?

  Next on the docket, I wanted to pitch a show.

• 5:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 5:27Hannah Berner?

  Called Grape Grapes, where me and you drink wine.

• 5:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, this is not a real, sorry, so sorry. I thought you were about to be like, this is a show. It was like on a couple of years ago, you have to watch it.

• 5:40Hannah Berner?

  Nope, this is made up.

• 5:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, cool, this is more my speed.

• 5:43Hannah Berner?

  This is from the noggin. I was actually on burner phone, we were talking about drinking wine and I, I just said Grape Grapes. And I was like, oh my God, what if, we never drink anymore. But what if we did purely to get drunk and then complain about stuff? And if we cry, we cry.

• 5:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 6:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, I just love alliteration.

• 6:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, why don't we just film a therapy session?

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, what if we got really, so what if we just went on Summer House? What if we got really drunk and then just cried about stuff?

• 6:16Hannah Berner?

  This is the one thing reality TV is missing. Well, there's a couple, but one thing is I want to know on the bottom corner, on the lower third, how many drinks people are in so I can factor in their argument. Where is this? And, and what kind of drinks?

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 6:31Hannah Berner?

  Is it kamikaze shot? Or are we dealing with a pinot noir? Like, what are we dealing with in this battle?

• 6:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:38Hannah Berner?

  Make it like a Pokemon thing.

• 6:40Paige DeSorbo?

  That's quite true, because that matters. How many drinks in really does matter on your level of sanity.

• 6:47Hannah Berner?

  And also, when I was in it, sometimes I didn't know what I was competing against. And if I had knew, I would have handled the situation better. And then they can't play that card the next day, you know, when they're like, oh, it was blackout. And you're like, oh, so nothing, you can't, that's like saying that didn't count, I didn't know the rules.

• 7:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:01Hannah Berner?

  Which I hate when people do that in Monopoly.

• 7:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually do have a show that was on a couple of years ago that I just started on Netflix called Love Life, and it's, um...

• 7:11Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I heard about that. It's cute?

• 7:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so good, and it's so cute. Oh, my god, why can't I think of her name? Anna Kendrick. Wow, oh, that's annoying. Um, she's the main character, which I love her. The, you know, I hate a musical. I will watch Pitch Perfect any day of the week because I just, I'm obsessed with her. I think she's a great actress.

• 7:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh, wait, Love Life is like an old thing that's now back on Netflix. 2020.

• 7:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, maybe even before that. And I don't know why I never saw it or never watched it. I don't know what it was on originally. It's so good, it's so cute.

• 7:45Hannah Berner?

  Do you want to give us any context?

• 7:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's, it has a narrator, and Anna Kendrick is the main character. Her name is Darby, and it's very realistic on how you go from, like, relationship to relationship. And like, when you're getting out of one or getting into a new one, you're like, this is fine, like, we're fine. And then you don't realize how like, all of those traumas kind of build up and kind of mold the person that you become in like, that next relationship. And then it's just like the nuances of you break up with someone, you run into them, they're with a new person, like, all this different stuff, but it's very relatable. It's very funny. And then, obviously, there's side characters of her friends, and it's also like their love lives. Love lives, sorry. And it was just...

• 8:34Hannah Berner?

  And let me just say... You love a narrator because

• 8:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I love a narrator.

• 8:37Hannah Berner?

  Having someone hold your hand throughout is underrated.

• 8:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I love a narrator. I find it to be cheeky.

• 8:44Hannah Berner?

  Tell me where they're at emotionally. Don't make me guess.

• 8:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, don't.

• 8:53Hannah Berner?

  Just, just say what it is, okay?

• 8:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I was on TikTok the other day and someone posted like a scene from Girls and they were like, they're saying nothing, but saying everything at the same time. And I read the scene so wrong. I was like, oh, I.

• 9:08Hannah Berner?

  Let's call a spade a spade. You're on your phone. And when you're watching a show on your phone, having a narrator every couple of minutes is nice. Especially if they have a nice soothing voice. I'm like, it feels like your best friend's coming in just giving you the down low, you know?

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's nice. It's really, it's truly nice.

• 9:24Hannah Berner?

  Also, this is a little, this is, it's kind of strong, but I did watch I Love You Forever, um, by Kazzy David. And John Raditzky is in it, who's really, really funny. And, um, Jack Nicholson's son

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  plays the love interest in it. And what's the name of the main girl? Sophia Black Delia. Incredible.

• 9:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually watched another show with her, um, single drunk female, I think it is. And it was such a good show. If you haven't watched it, I think it's on Hulu.

• 9:55Hannah Berner?

  So what's interesting about I Love You Forever, which I think is super important, is it shows what it's like to be in an abusive relationship. And I think we all have seen friends that have been in it and you're like, get out. Like, why are you dealing with that? And it makes it so fucking like understandable.

• 10:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I think sometimes people think that abusive relationships are like a super extreme. Like you can only be in an abusive relationship if it's extreme and like mentally and physically.

• 10:26Hannah Berner?

  Most of my abusive relationships were emotional. And emotional is really hard if A, the guy's incredible at apologizing.

• 10:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:35Hannah Berner?

  B, you think he's like obsessed with you, even if it's kind of in a controlling way, you think it's good. Or C, like you feel shitty around him, but you think it's your fault because he's perfect. Like there's, I just think there hasn't been like a, a movie that encapsulates it in not like an incredible, extreme way.

• 10:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And not to brag, mine were physical, so. And I can laugh about that because it happened to me.

• 11:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  But no, it really is true. And I do think that like, and I don't know why this always happens at like such a vulnerable time. Like I was 19. And I feel like everyone's worst relationship is like they're 19. And I really do think it's a powerful movie for like of all ages, but like specifically younger girls. Because you get brainwashed and you don't even realize it until you're so deep in it. And you're like, what the fuck is going on?

• 11:30Hannah Berner?

  Also, not to go old school, but a lot of us millennials were trained like, okay, you have to find your prince and prince equals happiness. So then when you think you found your prince, especially because in the beginning he acts fucking normal and cool. And then things started to go haywire. It doesn't make sense with any of the stories you've been told in your head. It was, I think it's an important thing for people to see.

• 11:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:51Hannah Berner?

  And it was, yeah, it was done really well.

• 11:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I agree.

• 11:55Hannah Berner?

  I have a documentary. That that's really good. But it's called Mr. And Mrs. Murder.

• 12:02Paige DeSorbo?

  On?

• 12:03Hannah Berner?

  Good question. I'm gonna say Hulu. Yes. Okay Hulu? Shout to Hulu. Stepping up their game with the documentaries. Check it out. They're killing it. I think someone's connected to us at Hulu and they were like, give Hannah more. She's running out. So thank you for, I have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. So basically, Mr. And Mrs. Murder is about two couples that are like best friends, very religious. You know, it's about to get freaky.

• 12:32Hannah Berner?

  So one day, one of the husbands disappears while hunting. And everyone says he drowned and got eaten by alligators. They talked about the death roll. I was like, tell me about something I don't know.

• 12:45Hannah Berner?

  I was like, I'm an expert.

• 12:50Hannah Berner?

  This is her favorite thing to talk about, death roll. Talk about for an hour.

• 12:55Hannah Berner?

  But they basically said, since the eighteen hundreds, eighty people have died in that swamp. And all of their bodies have been found, because alligators actually don't like how we taste, like, they'll bite you and then they'll be like, that's like, not my, like, I like medium rare.

• 13:10Paige DeSorbo?

  That's literally so fucking rude.

• 13:13Hannah Berner?

  But like chic of alligators.

• 13:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 13:15Hannah Berner?

  But it's kind of like sharks too, apparently. Don't let me get into sharks.

• 13:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Hannah Berner?

  They're, anyway, so, at first, everyone's just like, this is so sad, he clearly got eaten by alligators, but his mom, who everyone was calling crazy, we see your trend. Um, is like, we need to find what happened to my son, he did not get eaten by alligators, I know he didn't. The way it gets kind of crazy, not to give it away, I'm not, I actually am not at the end yet, but, the-

• 13:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Wife was having an affair?

• 13:44Hannah Berner?

  With-

• 13:45Paige DeSorbo?

  The best friend.

• 13:46Hannah Berner?

  The best friend's husband. You know.

• 13:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Did they do anything to the other wife?

• 13:51Hannah Berner?

  So that other wife, she hated her husband, anyway, like, he was controlling asshole, and he starts having an affair with that one, who knows how early they had it? But they also took out a life insurance for a million dollars of the guy, six months before he disappeared, I mean, but everyone just is not investigating it like a murder, because they're like, the alligators got him, and the alligators are sitting there, like, don't get me involved in your bullshit, like-

• 14:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Religious people can really get away with a lot. It's kind of crazy.

• 14:17Hannah Berner?

  Well, because they also were so suppressed, they, they're also like, doing crazy freaky shit, like, the guy had a, a house where he just invites strippers to go to, and he called it like, ungodly, and I'm like, fuck god, like, you're cheating on everyone. Then there's the whole, like, god forgave me, and I was like, can I talk to god? Because I don't know.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw TikTok the other day, and it was like, it's some guy being like, I don't do business with men that cheat on their wives, becau- and I think it was so good, because it was like, if he can deceive the person he's like, said to the world that he loves the most, then what is he gonna do if I'm his business partner? And I think that's such a good- Like thing to point out.

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, the way you treat people is the way you treat people. So if you treat like you end up treating everyone pretty similar because it's a reflection of how you feel about yourself, psychology 101. So I'm really into this, um, and I'm rooting, rooting for the mom. But, oh, so obviously the wife is like heartbroken kind of and feels betrayed by her best friend. But then she realizes to find out if they killed the husband. She needs to get back in with the, her best friend who stole her husband. So she literally is like, I had to suck it up and be like, I need to break these two apart to figure out what really happened. And I was like, this is insane.

• 15:39Paige DeSorbo?

  What, what year is this?

• 15:41Hannah Berner?

  Like 2000 to 2015, like this is all happening.

• 15:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my God. Okay, I'm gonna watch that.

• 15:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's, it's really good. Um, in Florida, of course.

• 15:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, well, of course.

• 15:56Hannah Berner?

  I didn't have to say that.

• 15:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did you see on TikTok, the girl, there's this girl, her name is Kendra, and she did like a 20 part series about how she fell in love with her psychiatrist?

• 16:07Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm sad.

• 16:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's so nutty and everyone, I don't know, but everyone was like, okay, um, you seem like a little unwell. Like he did not love you back. All signs pointed to that. This was a professional relationship, whatever. But someone made like a recap video and that's really what I was watching. And the girl was like, this just doesn't seem east coast or west coast. This seems very, I don't know, Arizona vibes or like a Vegas vibe. And I was like, oh, that's so true.

• 16:42Hannah Berner?

  No, I do think there are some places that are more traditional that like she's definitely the first person in her family to ever do therapy. And for that, like

• 16:49Paige DeSorbo?

  We applaud her.

• 16:50Hannah Berner?

  We applaud you. But also not to play devil's advocate, men aren't ever allowed to be psychological, like psychiatrists. Psychiatrist. So he was actually just a man she was talking to.

• 17:03Paige DeSorbo?

  But they like more, it's a whole thing. It's like-

• 17:06Hannah Berner?

  But it is funny that like, a guy listens to you for the first time and you're like, "Are you trying to fuck me?"

• 17:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No Hannah, that's-

• 17:14Hannah Berner?

  Okay, foreplay. You just asked me a follow-up question. L- lick my pussy.

• 17:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I'm not kidding, that's all of her videos. It's like, someone was like, "Where are her friends?" Because this is just me on the phone being like, "I think he loves me." And it's like, "No, he's your doctor. Like, he has to ask you that."

• 17:31Hannah Berner?

  Maybe I don't want to mail a therapist because I'm afraid I'll fall in love with him. Maybe that's the- This is layered, you guys.

• 17:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It really is.

• 17:38Hannah Berner?

  This is layered, but- Wait, that is so fucking funny.

• 17:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It was so good, you have to go watch it.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  Did she say anything to him? Was she like, "Are you gonna ask me out?"

• 17:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, he literally had to like, get a restraining order.

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  And then she's like, "And then he knows from my therapy that I like to chase." So he gave me a challenge.

• 17:58Paige DeSorbo?

  He didn't stop me when I was telling him about like, my sexual escapades. And people were like, "He's your therapist." He's supposed to listen to you, like-

• 18:07Hannah Berner?

  Wait, this is a perfect segue though, to ChatGPT therapy.

• 18:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Hannah Berner?

  Did you hear that you're allowed to use it in court? Where with a human therapist, there is like, it's a law that they can't say like, how you were feeling. I think they're allowed to say if you murdered someone, like, that's where they draw the line. They're like, "Okay, I'm gonna call you right back."

• 18:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 18:33Hannah Berner?

  ChatGPT, like, if, if something happens, they can look at all of it to try to prove it. I said this to my brother, he wasn't that impressed. He's like, "Yeah, if you're ChatGPTing something bad, you're probably Goog- Googling bad shit too." But basically, it's very hard to get away with stuff nowadays, especially if you're-

• 18:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you can subpoena their ChatGPT history.

• 18:55Hannah Berner?

  Can you spell subpoena?

• 18:57Paige DeSorbo?

  S U S S S S. I know, S U P.

• 19:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think it may be S U B. Anyway, that's all we, all the time we have for today.

• 19:12Hannah Berner?

  Have you ever, like, I love my Charlotte Tilbury contour thing.

• 19:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, your wand.

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  But like, sometimes the lighting is like, kind of off, and you ever, like, forget to, like, to rub in, like, a part of your nose contour, or like, your neck contour?

• 19:25Paige DeSorbo?

  All the time.

• 19:27Hannah Berner?

  I did it twice this weekend. I saw Grace, and she was like, "Hey, can you come here for a second?" And that's when you know, like, you've done something embarrassing. And she's like, "You have a line on your, on your chin."

• 19:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, this is what I love about you so much. You are, like, so against mirrors, where, like, I've never walked by a mirror that I haven't stopped, looked in, complimented myself, and then walked away.

• 19:51Hannah Berner?

  Reassessed your entire identity.

• 19:53Paige DeSorbo?

  When you're done with your makeup, you don't take a minute to, like, look at yourself as a whole?

• 19:58Hannah Berner?

  It's kind of a vibe, because I feel like people see your energy first, which we're gonna take you to Michaela soon.

• 20:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:04Hannah Berner?

  But, um, also, it's like, your first impression. Like, I look immediately, and it's like, if we're good, we're good. And unfortunately, some angles of your face you can't see in that split second. And then I walked out with a nose line on the side of one of my noses. I think it's time, since we brought up energies, to bring in Mystic Michaela. Let's go, girl.

• 20:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 21:41Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 21:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 21:57Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 21:59Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 22:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors and I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 22:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 22:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 22:15Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 22:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 22:26Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 22:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 22:28Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the Giggler's a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands because I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 22:49Hannah Berner?

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• 22:59Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:34Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:40Hannah Berner?

  We never have guests unless we selfishly want to be told by a very special person about who we are or anything about our cats. Paige, you excited?

• 25:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so excited. And again, we don't have guests unless they're truly important in our lives.

• 25:57Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes, unless we want them to give us compliments. And we cut out all the negative stuff that anything might be said. We're so excited today to have Mystic Michaela, who's been on my pod, like, doing an aura reading for me. You are so incredible. And we started getting messages from gigglers saying, "You know that she reads cats." And we said, "Oh, how perfect. How perfect."

• 26:23Speaker 08

  Thank you guys so much for having me on. Yes, like, I was telling you guys, you have some gigglers that understand auras, and they... Need to have you know about cats and auras and how it all plays together.

• 26:37Hannah Berner?

  And arguably, they're not grounded in reality. We don't want to deal with anything directly. We want to deal with the auras of it all. Can you tell us, yes vibes, can you tell us about your work?

• 26:51Speaker 08

  Yes, and I love that, by the way, because I think you can just blame everything on an aura color. And then you don't have to take any personal responsibility.

• 26:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 26:59Speaker 08

  And that works, that can work. Yeah, so I see colors around people and, and you know, I've always seen colors around people. And then what happened was, is I didn't want to be weird about it or anything. So I started, I went to school to be a teacher. And I was still seeing colors around all the kids. And I'm like, hey, wait a second, this helps me. You know, know learning styles or how to teach them. But then it would go, yeah.

• 27:25Paige DeSorbo?

  All day, every day, you can see colors around people. You can't really like turn it off.

• 27:30Speaker 08

  No, it's like seeing hair color or seeing someone's outfit or anything like that.

• 27:35Hannah Berner?

  You might have just had a concussion?

• 27:37Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 27:38Hannah Berner?

  And you were just, you were like, okay.

• 27:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, or like, did you think everyone saw that?

• 27:44Speaker 08

  Yeah, that's it. Like I, it's like smelling or you know how some people can visualize and some people can't? And then you find out other people can't and you're like, what's wrong with you? Like, like I thought everyone saw colors around everybody like I did. It's just something that I do. I don't even notice it unless someone's real like wacky with their colors or I'm doing a reading. But then the colors aren't just colors, like they mean things. So they're carrying vibrations. And the thing with the color aura colors is it's aura. It's just like energy outside your body. You all feel it. Everyone feels it. So.

• 28:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Can you see your own, like when you look in a mirror?

• 28:24Speaker 08

  Yes.

• 28:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

• 28:27Speaker 08

  Yeah. And then what's, what's nuts is like, if I look at pictures from my past, you know, when I'm going through stuff or whatnot. I'm like, oh, wow, that girl was going through it. And it was like me.

• 28:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, so yeah. So your colors can kind of change.

• 28:43Speaker 08

  They, the colors basically stay the same, but they can get really dark or torn up or messed up. And just like your body, you know, like when you look sick.

• 28:54Speaker 08

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:58Hannah Berner?

  Mr. Michaela's like, I can't see.

• 28:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I was magenta. I was hot pink, almost red.

• 29:05Hannah Berner?

  She goes, I'm seeing the Italian red flag.

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  Um, but okay, enough of us bothering you about your backstory. Why don't you start with our auras and then we'll go into more important things, which is our cats. But first Paige, what aura do you think you have color wise?

• 29:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, Michaela read me a couple of years ago, so I know that I'm pink.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, everyone knew that.

• 29:31Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 29:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I really, it is just so interesting, but I forget what it like means and like, am I still pink? I think I might've been pink in something else.

• 29:41Speaker 08

  Yeah, you're pink. So most people have, there's, I see eight aura colors and um, I've, my whole passion is trying to make sure you can, even if you can't see them, you can understand them. So I, I personify the colors in an attempt to do that. So you're pink and purple. Most people have two aura colors, you're pink, purple. The pink is not a usual color. Like that one, usually society kicks it out of you at a very young age. So the, yes, I'll see a lot of pink boys and girls, but not a lot of pink adults at all.

• 30:13Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 30:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, okay, and what, what is that, that you, that it's like, it gets kicked out of you from society? Like what are the natural traits?

• 30:22Speaker 08

  Pinks are naturally, um, I call it like the joy bubble. Like they have this ability to not detach from reality, but kind of take a step back and watch it through a kind of like a bubble. Like, like you're at an opera and you're at like the good seats and you're like, mm-hmm, I'm here, I'm watching it. Like I'm part of it, but I can also leave or not.

• 30:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Disassociate.

• 30:44Speaker 08

  Yeah, that, that is a pink thing to do. And people, like society will call it selfish. They'll call it full of yourself. They'll call it narcissist. They'll call it all sorts of things.

• 30:56Hannah Berner?

  No, like there will be a burning building and Paige will turn to me and be like, my boots are so cute.

• 31:02Hannah Berner?

  And I'm like, I wish I could compartmentalize like you do.

• 31:06Speaker 08

  It's a, it's a gift of the pink.

• 31:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 08

  And they're, they're very much able to look at life with rose colored glasses. The, the hard part about pinks is if they don't have their personal power set up, other people can try to trap them or keep them or put them in cages.

• 31:25Hannah Berner?

  Boys, men, yeah, men.

• 31:27Speaker 08

  Men. It's men. Yeah.

• 31:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I've had a lot of boyfriends who have wanted to, I'm not kidding, lock me in a room for no one to ever speak to me again.

• 31:37Hannah Berner?

  Not in a fun way, like not in a fun freaky way.

• 31:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Not in a fun way.

• 31:42Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 31:42Hannah Berner?

  They wanted to dull you.

• 31:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they dull me.

• 31:46Speaker 08

  Yeah, it's like a bird in the cage, cage bird thing. That's, that's the pink problem. But you have purple, which was probably, purples are really feisty and fiery and mic drop intuitive like. And so that was probably your ability to push people away when they were too toxic. Or like, you know what, I'm going to listen to myself and, and step out of the joy, the pink joy bubble every once in a while. Fix reality so that you can step back in it a little bit.

• 32:11Hannah Berner?

  We call that rude awakening, when you have to like stop and like reorganize some things in your life.

• 32:18Speaker 08

  Yes. Yeah. So that's, that's pink. And pinks are funny, like the pinks, just famous pinks, notable pinks. Like Lindsay Lohan's a pink. Like sometimes they disappear and then they come back.

• 32:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That feels very on brand for me. And I've always felt very connected to Lindsay.

• 32:36Hannah Berner?

  Also, within a day, Paige will disappear like five times. In 24 hours.

• 32:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I reemerge.

• 32:44Speaker 08

  And like Dolly Parton's a pink purple.

• 32:47Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you're so Dolly Parton coded if she ate chicken parmigiana a lot.

• 32:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm. If Dolly Parton was Italian, it really would be me.

• 32:55Hannah Berner?

  And didn't have boobs. Actually lately, you, your boobs are, anyway, that's beside the point. We don't talk about women's bodies. We don't talk about women's bodies.

• 33:04Speaker 08

  Okay. And then Carol G is pink purple.

• 33:08Hannah Berner?

  So badass.

• 33:09Speaker 08

  Isn't she cool? And her, you know, Gabriella Wilson, she's pink purple too. So they get, um, I don't know, people like, and if you, Marilyn Monroe was pink purple. Like they get, Brittany Spears is pink purple too. They get like stuck a lot.

• 33:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my gosh.

• 33:26Hannah Berner?

  Conservatorships and things like that.

• 33:28Paige DeSorbo?

  They think we're crazy.

• 33:29Speaker 08

  They do.

• 33:30Paige DeSorbo?

  They think we're nuts.

• 33:31Hannah Berner?

  Can I start a conservatorship with you?

• 33:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly?

• 33:35Hannah Berner?

  Like for Fonzie's?

• 33:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You know, it is interesting because I feel like I've gone to certain parts of the country, specifically the South, and they're like, she's crazy, she's crazy, she's nuts. She's so kooky.

• 33:50Hannah Berner?

  Kind of Dolly Parton and Lyndsey and Brittany, people assume that they like, don't know what's going on and they like, accidentally are talented, when it's like, that's not the case at all.

• 34:02Speaker 08

  Yeah. And then people get really pissed off when pinks like say, like say no to something, especially if it's a societal expectation. Like, you should be this way as a feminine woman or something. It's like, no. And then they get like real mad. Like Pam, oh Pam Anderson, she's, she's pink too. Like she's not wearing makeup. Like, everyone's mad at her or she's wearing makeup. Everyone's mad at her. It's like, you know, everyone's just always mad at them.

• 34:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. No, they really are always mad at me for something. And it's like, if someone else did it, they'd be like, good for her. But like, if I do something, they're like, what a witch. What a literal witch.

• 34:40Hannah Berner?

  A Sicilian witch.

• 34:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I'm like, okay.

• 34:45Speaker 08

  Yeah. So that's pink purple. So it's really cool. And I can't wait to talk about your cat, because that's a whole thing. And then Hannah, you, we talked about this, but you've changed since I talked to you. So I'm so proud of you. And round of aura applause for you. When did we talk? Because when we talked, I think you just were done with the show or something, right?

• 35:07Hannah Berner?

  You could say fired. You could say.

• 35:09Speaker 08

  I don't know.

• 35:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You could say fired on here.

• 35:11Hannah Berner?

  This isn't, like, this is an open forum.

• 35:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can swear.

• 35:15Hannah Berner?

  The gigglers, like, they keep everything a secret. Like, this is a safe space. Yeah.

• 35:19Speaker 08

  I felt that from them. Yeah. So I, you're, you used to wear a lot more red. And now you don't. So, okay, so you're like purple. I call it blue to go. It's like blue and indigo mush together. And sometimes, so purple blues and purple blue to goes. They have like this vibe in life and it's just, let me just be, you know, let me exist, let me do my thing.

• 35:41Hannah Berner?

  I don't say anything. I don't do anything to anybody.

• 35:45Hannah Berner?

  Illy beaver.

• 35:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like Hannah like does always say like, I'm just like, I'm being myself. Like, she is just always herself.

• 35:53Speaker 08

  Yeah, they really value authenticity. They're very, like, they're great with other people. Like, everybody feel very comfortable. They're very chill. I feel like blue purple's life purposes is to like be chill and just calm. But sometime, I call it a get shit done aura color. Sometimes purple, blue to go's have to wear one. And you used to wear more red. And, and I don't see you wearing that as much anymore. So I think that that's good.

• 36:14Hannah Berner?

  What was my red?

• 36:16Paige DeSorbo?

  What was my red?

• 36:17Speaker 08

  Well, I think that's like the athletic thing. We talked about this when you were on, when I was on your podcast or whatever. Um, but I think that's the athlete, the force myself to do more, be more, push, push, push, push. You know, all right, somebody else is doing it, so I have to work harder. I have to get there. I have to, all that. And I feel like you're more, you're, you're more in your personal power now. And you're like, you know, I'm gonna be comfortable doing it the way I want to do it. You took control.

• 36:42Hannah Berner?

  I started doing needlepoint.

• 36:45Speaker 08

  Oh, my God. That's beautiful.

• 36:47Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. That's, I think that's what you're sensing. She's like, wait, this is crazy that I, my color has changed. And it makes me really happy because I do try to constantly work on myself.

• 37:03Speaker 08

  Yeah. And it shows.

• 37:05Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so nice.

• 37:08Hannah Berner?

  I don't need to, because I'm a pink.

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm perfect. So that's, sounds tough for you. Um, but I'm happy.

• 37:16Hannah Berner?

  She goes, maybe work a little harder.

• 37:19Speaker 08

  Well, I think you took yourself outside of other people's definitions. And you were like, I'll just build my own and fill my space to that, you know? And, and I think that helped you a lot.

• 37:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 37:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Is there a compatibility between our colors?

• 37:34Speaker 08

  Oh, yes. So I feel like Hannah's very protective of you.

• 37:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 37:39Speaker 08

  And, and because that's her blue to go. So like Hannah probably can hear anything, anything they can say about her. But if somebody says something on Paige, I feel like Hannah can like just go back to, go back to the red aura and get really like scary.

• 37:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, maybe go back to red.

• 37:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes it really does feel like we're married, where she's like, and don't talk about my wife.

• 38:03Hannah Berner?

  That's my wife you're talking about. What was that voice?

• 38:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 38:07Hannah Berner?

  That was red. That was my red.

• 38:08Speaker 08

  That was the red. That was the get shit on red.

• 38:10Paige DeSorbo?

  So do you mean like if she physically wears red, it like kind of induces that like I need to do more mentality?

• 38:21Speaker 08

  Yeah, like red energy when you wear it and sometimes and when I say wear it.

• 38:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy because that's Wisconsin colors.

• 38:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I mean, that is the best.

• 38:33Speaker 08

  She is a witch.

• 38:35Hannah Berner?

  They, I had to wear red because I was like, I had to be a warrior and I was having sex with mascots. It was literally battle.

• 38:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:43Hannah Berner?

  Like it was crazy. That was, that's besides the point, Michaela. Don't get thrown with that story. Stay focused. I threw you for a loop there.

• 38:51Speaker 08

  Yeah, that was amazing. No, I, yes, and red, when you wear it and it's not yours, it's like a, somebody else's sweater you're putting on. You can try to embody those characteristics and then your physical body will match it. So you can get more anxiety or more just like cardio. I mean, you're young, but like cardio issues or joint issues or, or things in the body that are like, oh, this is true. It's really heavy to wear an energy that's not yours. It's not good for you and it can cause you a lot of strain in your body and in your, your mental health too. You can be really mean to yourself, competitive when you're not, like things like that.

• 39:26Hannah Berner?

  I don't, maybe some gigglers can relate to it, but it's, yeah, it's feeling like, if I'm not pushing myself and challenging myself and feeling uncomfortable, then I'm not going to be great at whatever I want to do. But the reality is I'm actually not that competitive with other people. It's more myself and I actually am.

• 39:46Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so true.

• 39:48Hannah Berner?

  Like, but I was forced to be, I didn't like playing other girls. Like I didn't want to, but I was wearing this like, yeah, this red to be like, I have to win or someone's going to be mad at me.

• 40:01Speaker 08

  Yeah, you're probably playing against a lot of other red women too. And yellow women, they're a little different.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  We're on our periods a lot.

• 40:10Speaker 08

  Oh, yeah. It's a lot of rage, you know?

• 40:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, like, in the opposite way of that, I, for my whole life, I've always worn a lot of pink. Like, I've always grabbed, like, if anything comes in the option, like, if I'm buying something and they have, like, it also comes in pink, I'm just always getting the pink.

• 40:30Hannah Berner?

  If you ever did a stand-up special, we're gonna call it Legally Brunette.

• 40:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Thanks.

• 40:36Speaker 08

  Yeah, like, Legally Blonde is like the pink aura, just, that's it. That's like the model.

• 40:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:43Hannah Berner?

  So fascinating.

• 40:46Speaker 08

  Yeah, and pink aura is like, it's back to the pink, it's interesting that you say you've always chosen pink. Um, I think people, as children, are very connected to their aura colors. And what's interesting is you just kept going and going and going with that. And that's what I see with pinks, they either choose it like a hundred million percent, or they completely reject it. Once they hit a certain age, like, oh, pink's baby, I can't do that anymore, or, you know, because they don't want the ridicule or the judgment.

• 41:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's always been my favorite color. I've never, like, had a different favorite color.

• 41:19Speaker 08

  That's interesting. Yeah, and, um, usually kids, I love talking to kids about colors too, because I'm like, what's your favorite color? They'll always pick it, or if you ask a kid, like, three, four years old, hey, what aura am I, what color do you see around me, or what color am I, they'll tell you.

• 41:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 41:35Speaker 08

  They're magical. Everyone asks the kids in their life this.

• 41:38Hannah Berner?

  It's funny, I talked to my little cousin this week, and she told me to stop talking.

• 41:45Speaker 08

  She sounds purple.

• 41:47Hannah Berner?

  We were playing Ariel and Ursula, and she goes, I'm gonna put a spell on you to shut up. And I was like, that feels pointed.

• 41:57Paige DeSorbo?

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• 43:10Hannah Berner?

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• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 43:26Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 43:27Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 43:28Hannah Berner?

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• 43:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 43:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 43:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 43:45Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 43:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 43:56Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 43:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 43:58Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 44:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no.

• 44:11Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 44:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that it has these things for your hands because I

• 44:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 44:19Hannah Berner?

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• 44:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:32Speaker 09

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• 45:33Hannah Berner?

  Okay, let's do cats now.

• 45:37Speaker 08

  Okay, so you guys sent me, okay, Paige, your cat's the one with the blue eyes, right?

• 45:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 45:42Speaker 08

  And what's, what's that? It's a girl. What's her name?

• 45:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne.

• 45:46Speaker 08

  Okay, and what's your cat's name, Hannah?

• 45:49Hannah Berner?

  So my cat's name is Butter, and I do want to preface that you may get some confusion because I am fostering three kittens right now. If you're getting other energies. Also, Butter's, Butter's not happy right now about the kitten. Butter's very mad at me right now.

• 46:02Speaker 08

  Butter.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  But there's been a lot of cats in my life over the last couple of months, so if mine's a little clouded, it's fine. But you can start with Daphne.

• 46:09Speaker 08

  Okay, so just to preface, okay, so this is how I read animals. Like, if I didn't do auras, I would do, I love reading animals. They don't talk with words, they talk with energy. So, and they come through to all, they come through to all of us, but they come through to me with like pictures and visuals and smells. So I get, I get all that stuff. So I'll start with Daphne because Daphne's got a lot to say.

• 46:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I knew that bitch did. I knew that bitch did.

• 46:35Speaker 08

  And I'm not kidding, like, she's got a laundry list of things.

• 46:39Hannah Berner?

  High maintenance.

• 46:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, let's hear them. She's got a lot of nerve. The life she lives.

• 46:49Speaker 08

  The first thing I get is I feel like she's.

• 46:53Speaker 08

  All right, just because they're complaining doesn't mean they don't love you. I have to start with this.

• 46:58Paige DeSorbo?

  That I needed that disclaimer. I truly did. Also, is she British? Yeah.

• 47:06Speaker 08

  She, okay, so even if I saw this cat, I'd be like, does a pink aura own this cat? Like, is this a pink aura's cat? All right, because she's very fancy and she feels to me like a couple of things. She doesn't like moving around. This seems like a big thing. And she, she really doesn't like that. She's giving me a smell and it's like a weird, sharp, plastic smell. I feel like this has something.

• 47:29Paige DeSorbo?

  That's her carrying case.

• 47:30Speaker 08

  I was gonna say that, okay. And I feel like she has an option, whether she's in it or not in it. Like, this is her choice and you let her have her choices. And she's okay with that, but she's like, almost like, she can't, she's a cat. So she's not saying, is this cheap or whatever? But she's like.

• 47:45Paige DeSorbo?

  It's Louis Vuitton. It's literally Louis Vuitton, okay?

• 47:49Speaker 08

  She does not like the smell.

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  That put me back. She doesn't like, she wants Goyard. Okay, yeah. I love that she's like, um. I don't care about being in it. I carry butter in a plastic bag and I'm just kidding. Okay, keep going, this bitch.

• 48:07Speaker 08

  So she's mentioning that. I also get, I don't know if she's got like a travel thing that she lays on. I don't know if this is like a poofy cushion or something like that. But like, I feel like she needs more territ-, she's asking for more territory or travel territory or something like that. And, and I get with her, oh, now she's complaining about you. She loves you a lot. Oh, she, oh, she shows me first, though. When you guys are together, I feel like you do routines together. And then if you do the routine, she does the routines. I don't know if you both like primp at the same time or something.

• 48:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I try and eat dinner with her at the same time. And then like if I do do like my nighttime routine, then when I get in bed, I do, that's when I brush her.

• 48:54Speaker 08

  She loves all this. Yeah, she, she really appreciates this. Sometimes when you come home from wherever you are, you're a little out of it. Like, and she doesn't enjoy that. And I feel like she's just mentioning that. So she's just saying-

• 49:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I'm a little preoccupied.

• 49:11Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 49:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 08

  Again, when they complain, it doesn't mean it's valid. It just means they're like complaining.

• 49:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Again, that feels pointed from her.

• 49:22Hannah Berner?

  But also Daphne has to understand that for Paige to have this beautiful home, she has to work sometimes.

• 49:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I have to work sometimes. And sometimes I'm stressed. I come home, I'm out of it.

• 49:31Speaker 08

  Yeah, she doesn't, she wants all your attentions. And um, I feel like, oh, she doesn't,

• 49:39Speaker 08

  she's very picky about who touches her. And I feel like this has to do with how they smell or something. So she's very funny about whoever touches her, like if they leave something, you know, she's a cat, so I'm getting kind of like a smell, like other people smell. Um, she doesn't enjoy that. And she's not shy. She just doesn't want everybody to ta- touch her. Like that kind of thing.

• 50:01Hannah Berner?

  Maybe if they're wearing like a perfume or a cologne she doesn't like.

• 50:04Speaker 08

  Yeah, she can be a little annoyed with that.

• 50:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone wants to pick, like, pick her up too when they see her.

• 50:08Speaker 08

  Oh, I know. Cause she's so, she's very fluffy. Um, she likes to have eye contact with you and just like look. And you guys, I think just do this together. And that's like very healing for her.

• 50:19Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you just look at how pretty each other is?

• 50:21Paige DeSorbo?

  We literally do stare at each other. Because when she slow blinks at me, I try and slow blink back.

• 50:31Speaker 08

  This is like a deeply meditative and connecting thing for her. And she, she appreciates that. Um, I mean, that's the big thing. I feel like with her, she feels safe around you and she loves you. I, I feel like she likes it just the two of you. This is like a big thing. She really just likes the two of you. She's okay with that. Um, I'm getting a weird thing and I don't know what this is. It's your, do you sleep on the? On your bed, if I'm laying down, hold on, I'm really bad with left and right. Do you sleep on the left side?

• 51:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, if I'm laying down, I sleep on the right. She sleeps on the left.

• 51:05Speaker 08

  Okay. She's showing me something with the left side or something and, and then I'm getting like the floor on the left side. And I don't know what she's trying to show me. Like, like the, the part that's like not quite under the bed, but it's a little bit. Does that make sense? I feel like she's trying to show me something there. She puts things there or there's something with that area. I don't know what that is.

• 51:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I know exactly what she's talking about. If I have a man sleep in my bedroom, he sleeps on the right and sometimes they put their things on the right side. And she likes the, she, and when it's just us, that's her spot.

• 51:46Speaker 08

  Okay.

• 51:47Paige DeSorbo?

  So I think it's like, it's her spot gets taken.

• 51:50Speaker 08

  That's, she's very territorial of you and like you're the territory.

• 51:56Hannah Berner?

  No man.

• 51:56Speaker 08

  You are. Yeah. Like even though she doesn't like to move around or go places, I think she wouldn't want to be with anyone else. So that's just, she's just gonna have to pick that. All right. That, do you have any questions about her? She, oh, I'm trying to get like, sometimes I try to get help or something. I mean, she.

• 52:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. How did she feel because she was overweight?

• 52:14Speaker 08

  Okay. I'm getting her complaining. Did you give her two different types of food?

• 52:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I give her hard and wet.

• 52:20Speaker 08

  Okay.

• 52:22Speaker 08

  I feel like at different times of the day or something. Like it's not at the same time. Okay. I'm getting something just, she, she feels very dramatic. So I'm getting like, eh, like that.

• 52:37Paige DeSorbo?

  She gets wet food in the morning and dry food at night.

• 52:40Hannah Berner?

  She gets heavy on water.

• 52:43Speaker 08

  She's just, she's a princess and I feel like she just loves you so much. She's just very picky about who's around. And I do feel like she has behavioral issues if she doesn't like if someone's around and, and she can do the stink eye a little and punish you.

• 52:57Paige DeSorbo?

  She can.

• 52:58Hannah Berner?

  Wait, when she was at my house? Wait, I think she didn't like traveling to my house. That's what she's getting. And then she would stink eye me.

• 53:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I just love that she's literally going eh, cause that's, that's just, I feel like so her.

• 53:13Hannah Berner?

  Isn't it funny how cats have full expressions even though their face like doesn't really.

• 53:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I just know that certain people have walked in my home and she's been like, ew.

• 53:23Hannah Berner?

  Pointed.

• 53:26Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm obsessed. I can't believe she hates her Louis Vuitton carry. No, maybe it's the inside of it. She doesn't like how it's like leathery. It's leathery. Well, it, yeah.

• 53:37Speaker 08

  She's giving me like a sharp smell, like it smells sharp. I mean, she's a cat, right? So she doesn't know it's cheap. Um, okay. I don't know how much you hang out with, like, how much Daphne does hang out with you Hannah, but I do get a sense that she doesn't like loud voices or something. And, but I don't know if this is just in general.

• 54:00Hannah Berner?

  But she likes my friend Ally who's as loud as me.

• 54:04Speaker 08

  I don't know.

• 54:04Hannah Berner?

  Is it because Ally's a lesbian? She felt more comfortable around that energy? And Ally's little, wait, she likes little cute things.

• 54:12Speaker 08

  Aww.

• 54:13Hannah Berner?

  She likes little cute things.

• 54:14Speaker 08

  But she's a really happy cat. I think when they start complaining about nonsense, whenever I do readings, when animals just start complaining about nonsense to me, it just means they're fine, you know?

• 54:22Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 54:24Speaker 08

  Now Butter, this is Butter, okay? Butter's a girl. Butter feels like, okay, poor Butter. Was Butter a rescue? Butter feels like Butter had it. Butter has a better.

• 54:36Hannah Berner?

  Butter was found in a dumpster in the Bronx.

• 54:41Speaker 08

  Butter's okay. Butter to me, it, now they don't hold on to trauma, but they do remember things. They can hold on to behavior.

• 54:48Hannah Berner?

  She also did get attacked by a dog once.

• 54:51Speaker 08

  My God, that's awful. Poor Butter.

• 54:54Hannah Berner?

  She's a survivor. Like she's the toughest girl I know.

• 54:57Speaker 08

  I love her. She feels very secure in the house. So I know you said you're nervous that like you're fostering. I feel like she understands that these, you know, she hopes they're not staying, like that kind of thing, you know, like that. And, but she knows, like I feel like she feels secure. And I get an energy, I do get an energy on her, like a gratitude. Oh, wait, is she more, you're, because you're married, right Hannah? Okay. I, is she more, does she play favorites like right now? Because I get her liking him a little bit more. And I, I wonder if it's because your mommy to these other ones for

• 55:33Hannah Berner?

  She knows that I'm bringing in other cats. And, okay, so what's happening now, we sleep together every night and Dez goes to bed first and he pets her. And then I, hours later, go into the room and she's just sitting on my pillow like, who have you been with? And I have to wash my hands like I just cheated to get the scent off me so that she will purr and lay with me. But um, under no circumstances does she like does more than me. But she, when I'm away, she loves him. And then when I'm back, she like pretends she doesn't know him. But the fact that she loves him like warms my heart because it took her like seven months to let him touch her.

• 56:16Speaker 08

  That's really, really special. And I feel like they might have bonded on what are these other cats doing here moment. And I've, I've just feel like they're aligned and maybe that's bonded them even further into their little friendship. But no, I do get, she understands that, like she feels like she, she's got, street cats sometimes feel a little smarter in, in a different way. Like, like a little bit like, like they, they, she has it in her head, like I could survive, I'm choosing not to do that. Like I'm choosing to be here and this is my house. And she feels very confident and comfortable. She does feel really smart. Like I get something with her paws. Like I'm getting this need. I feel like she's, I don't know if she's just very dexterous. Is that the word dexterous?

• 56:55Hannah Berner?

  She loves kneading. She loves putting her hands on me.

• 56:59Speaker 08

  Yeah. She feels like she's very useful with those. And, and I feel like she um, feels very confident that you understand her. Like when you, you want food and she's like, she feels like a bit of a chirper and she talks a lot and things like that. I mean, she feels really, like she's running the show. Like she really does feel okay. She's in charge. Not that Daphne doesn't.

• 57:19Hannah Berner?

  But basically if Butter's in a bad mood, like we're all in a bad mood. Like she runs the households, but we do communicate, I feel like really well. Cause she's so intelligent, clearly.

• 57:30Speaker 08

  She's very smart and she feels like she does telepathically, like give you messages very strongly. So she'll say, I'm hungry or move that or move, move from my spot or move that so I can lay there or like stuff like that. I feel like she, and she'll just stare at you until you do it. And she feels very confident that way.

• 57:47Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. Yeah. Like I'll turn over and she wants to sit on my chest, but I'm like turned to the side and she'll just sit there staring at me until I turn. Like I can feel her looking at me like, what do you think you're doing?

• 58:01Speaker 08

  She, I'm just trying to get what else.

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, wait, does Butter say anything on why like she doesn't, she rather hide all day and doesn't like being around people?

• 58:12Speaker 08

  Oh, I, Butter to me does feel like she's very much in control of her space in her house. I wonder if that just comes from her street days a little bit, like her street days on the street. Like she feels so confident with you Hannah and then your husband, but I feel like with her, she just, it doesn't feel like fear. It feels more just kind of like observing and like, what is this and like what's going on? And, and she never, I don't know if she, tell me if she does this because she feels like she's watching. So even when somebody comes over, I feel like she's just kind of watching or looking.

• 58:46Hannah Berner?

  The second they leave, she comes out, like the second the door closes. Um, is she interested in doing any like brand deals or?

• 58:56Paige DeSorbo?

  What's her work ethic? Like, is she ready to kick it in high gear?

• 59:01Hannah Berner?

  Does she realize that Daphne's been working really hard and she's kind of, I know that she came from a dumpster, but like.

• 59:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne's over here being like Louis Vuitton.

• 59:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I said I wanted Goyard. Like I can't let this girl.

• 59:14Speaker 08

  Randomly with Butter and tell me, my tooth is bugging me, like, and I don't know what that is. Like now she looks fine. She looks healthy. She looks young. I'm not seeing anything like fit, like physically on her, but my, my, one of my teeth is bugging me. So I don't know what that means or if that means anything to, it feels like, like her canine or something.

• 59:32Hannah Berner?

  I'll check them out. Check them out.

• 59:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, maybe just a quick little vet.

• 59:36Hannah Berner?

  Floss, a little floss. She hasn't been flossing.

• 59:40Speaker 08

  I don't know. Sometimes I can get that if they have an issue or that was an injury in the past. Or she uses that side, which side am I using? My left side or she uses that side a lot or something to like chew or open things or whatever. But she's just giving me some sensory stuff. Now she feels really good. Oh, wherever you're living right now, it feels like there's. Oh, this is random. Sometimes cats tell me when you're moving. And I get this kind of weird vibe like moving on or transitioning, or we're not gonna be here much longer.

• 1:00:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we're September, we're heading back to the city. How does she know that? How does she know that?

• 1:00:19Speaker 08

  She just knows.

• 1:00:21Hannah Berner?

  Butter's like, I'm done with the Hamptons. Like Paige isn't doing it. I don't want to do it.

• 1:00:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so hot here. Like, can we go back?

• 1:00:30Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so crazy.

• 1:00:31Speaker 08

  I think she's looking forward to that. And I think she knows you guys are too, in a way.

• 1:00:35Hannah Berner?

  She wants to go back to the city, even though I'm like, you can, there's birds here, but she doesn't, it's not her vibe. She's such a city girl. She's a downtown girl.

• 1:00:44Speaker 08

  She likes the noise. She likes the action. I feel like she does though.

• 1:00:47Hannah Berner?

  Well, you know what? She has these pigeons that she's like obsessed with that fight on my radiator. And I feel like she's wondering like, how are my pigeons? Like, I mean, she wants to beat the shit out of them, but that's like what brings her joy.

• 1:00:58Speaker 08

  Yeah, it's a big chunk of her day. But the cats feel real, that's a big chunk of her day. Cats feel really happy and healthy and like confident in their relationships with you. That's what it seems like.

• 1:01:11Hannah Berner?

  Do you think they would get along?

• 1:01:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, would they get along?

• 1:01:14Speaker 08

  Oh, together? Oh, that's interesting. They, hold on, I gotta look at them both now. Daphne does feel like a one-cat household in a lot of ways, so it would be really hard for her.

• 1:01:26Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so you don't think that if Butter, if Butter, if Daphne got like a cute brother, that would work?

• 1:01:32Speaker 08

  I always tell people they'll figure it out, because I'm a cat person too. So I'm like, just throw them together.

• 1:01:37Hannah Berner?

  Ten, twenty, thirty.

• 1:01:39Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 1:01:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, my last question is, did she know she was on a diet?

• 1:01:46Speaker 08

  Oh, she's just showing me like, a disgust with like food. So I wonder if she was just like annoyed with how you were feeding her, or like the difference or something of that nature.

• 1:01:58Hannah Berner?

  She doesn't want to eat the healthy shit anymore.

• 1:01:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was giving her like more of like a healthy, hard food, so that, yeah.

• 1:02:05Speaker 08

  So she wouldn't know that she needed to lose weight or on a diet. She'd just be like, what is your problem? Like, you're giving her body image.

• 1:02:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I didn't want her to have a body image issue.

• 1:02:15Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I'm just switching this for fun.

• 1:02:19Hannah Berner?

  You're perfect. You're perfect.

• 1:02:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm obsessed. I love that. Oh, I just love this so much.

• 1:02:24Hannah Berner?

  I love that she wants to be sponsored by Goyard. Am I saying it right?

• 1:02:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I love that she was like, get off my side. This is where I put my stuff.

• 1:02:35Speaker 08

  She would be a great cat model. I feel like if you haven't done it already, like she loves to lay and be like, I think seen, you know, as long as she's in her comfort. Yeah, Daphne.

• 1:02:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no, she's modeled. She's, she's put in the work.

• 1:02:48Hannah Berner?

  Deep in the industry. She's booked, busy getting her bag that she thinks smells.

• 1:02:54Paige DeSorbo?

  She has multiple calls. Yeah.

• 1:02:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my God. Well, Michaela, you're incredible.

• 1:03:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, this is amazing.

• 1:03:02Hannah Berner?

  Better than I could ever imagine. You guys, follow Mystic Michaela on Instagram. She's very, very busy, but slide her DM. Try to book her if you can. She's spectacular and her content is amazing.

• 1:03:15Speaker 08

  Oh, Hannah and Paige, thank you so much and thank you gigglers for having me. I appreciate you all.

• 1:03:20Hannah Berner?

  We love you.

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