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• 1:35Speaker 02

  Sup, gigglers?

• 1:37Speaker 03

  Jerry, fix your Wi-Fi.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  Manifest that shit.

• 1:40Speaker 03

  We can't be managed.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 1:49Hannah Berner?

  Guess who's back? Guess who's back? Guess who's back? Paige is only letting me sing because she missed me so much.

• 1:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I, it really feels like a month. Like, it was one week we didn't do it, and I'm like, I'm foaming at the mouth.

• 2:03Hannah Berner?

  The mouth. What's that TikTok? Did you guys miss me? Because I missed you.

• 2:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I also feel like throughout my weeks, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't wait to tell Hannah this, or like, I cannot wait to talk to Hannah about this. And then I get on the pod and I'm like, I forget everything.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  Blank, because you get so excited. You're like that kid who's trying to tell a story and you're like, and then, this one time, and, and then they, and then they went, and then. But, um, the truth is, is I realized it's like a purge every week for us. So like, if we don't get that day of the week to purge everything, it starts.

• 2:35Paige DeSorbo?

  It bottles up.

• 2:36Hannah Berner?

  It bottles up. I'm not okay.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, it also makes me realize that I, like, if you died, like, I don't have a single other person in my life that I have the relationship with you, like, the way I do with you. Like, if you just, like, disappeared, I'd be like,

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  they'd have to commit me because I'd be so bottled up with things.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  You don't have a healthy outlet.

• 3:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't have a healthy outlet.

• 3:04Hannah Berner?

  But I'd also argue that the things that were like, we need to say stuff on Giggly Squad, none of them are important.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Not a single one.

• 3:11Hannah Berner?

  My first note that I have for this week is, French is for girls.

• 3:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And where's the lie?

• 3:18Hannah Berner?

  Men should not speak French. French is only a language for girls. Men do not say je ne sais quoi. That is a French girl word.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And honestly, if like your man says, do you want to go to Paris? Gross. It has, it has to be you giving him that information and then him being like, yeah, we can go.

• 3:39Hannah Berner?

  You have to trick him to go to Paris.

• 3:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like him coming up with the idea to go to Paris.

• 3:44Hannah Berner?

  Even him saying like Jeanne Maupel, by the way, I don't know how to speak French. Because basically I wanted to learn French, but then Dez was like, should I learn it too? And I was like, oh, no. No, I got the ick. I was like, you could learn Italian or Spanish.

• 3:58Paige DeSorbo?

  When I was like, when I was centering men in my life a couple of years ago, um, I took the French class of 2016. That literally haunts me for my life. I started taking this French class because this guy I was dating told me I was not impressive because I didn't know another language.

• 4:15Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did you go in person?

• 4:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Sure fucking did. This was pre-COVID. This is like, things were in person. I went to like four classes of this French class and I was just like, I don't even like this guy that much.

• 4:28Hannah Berner?

  So then you like go to the restaurant and you were like, oh, like, c'est la vie?

• 4:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I learned how to ask for the check. And that's the only thing I retained.

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  Wait, a man said you're not impressed? Also, look, you fucked with like the wrong finance bros.

• 4:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I think about that guy all the time. Or not that guy, I think about that moment all the time. Like, you're just like not that impressive. And I was like, pardon?

• 4:53Hannah Berner?

  But do you realize that's because he's insecure about himself?

• 4:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I wanted to send him my time, the time 100 thing, but I think I'm blocked.

• 5:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, men blocking women? Not a thing. Men are not allowed to block women.

• 5:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 5:08Hannah Berner?

  That's petty ass behavior for women to do to other men or other women who have wronged them.

• 5:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I want to go on, if I want to date you, I want to go on your Instagram and I want to see like that you didn't post for like a whole year.

• 5:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, 100%. I want you to ask me how to post an Insta story.

• 5:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, how do you add sound? I want him to be like, if you, if I wanted to add sound, how would I?

• 5:31Hannah Berner?

  If a man knows how to add the location and then change the font of the location sticker, I'm out.

• 5:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:36Hannah Berner?

  I'm out. I love breaking up with imaginary relationships while I'm married.

• 5:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I would say you lived through me a little bit.

• 5:46Hannah Berner?

  No, fully. I'm like, I can't do this anymore.

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  Last time people saw us together was time 100.

• 5:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 5:56Hannah Berner?

  I was obsessed with your fit. You're going, you're going the high fashion direction that I want my Barbie doll to go in.

• 6:05Hannah Berner?

  Are, yes or no, are you annoyed that all day I send you vintage products that I can't wear? And I sent to you to get?

• 6:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I don't get mad at them at all.

• 6:16Hannah Berner?

  Have you purchased any?

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, I think so.

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  Okay, good.

• 6:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Not recently, I haven't, no.

• 6:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay, we don't need that detail.

• 6:25Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, in the course of you sending me things, have I ever purchased something from something you've sent me? Yes. Actually, I'd even go as far to say, the other day I did an Amazon Live for Prime Day and...

• 6:38Hannah Berner?

  Your Super Bowl.

• 6:39Paige DeSorbo?

  My outfit, literally. My, I kept getting comments like, "Your outfit is so Hannah-coated." And, this is a compliment to you, because when I saw the outfit on Amazon, I go, "Oh my god, that's so Miu Miu." But like, it's Amazon, and it was like this striped little set. Honestly, you would look adorable in it. I'm gonna send you the link.

• 6:59Hannah Berner?

  Well, we are merging into the same person.

• 7:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We are. Like, I don't do my hair anymore.

• 7:05Hannah Berner?

  Welcome, to the dark side.

• 7:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm literally an air-dry queen. I'm an air, here's my method. I'm an air-dry queen, and then I throw a little Tresemé hairspray.

• 7:17Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Then I do a little, um, what brand is it? It's like a, it's like a salt spray.

• 7:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I wanna say it's Way. I wanna say it's like a salt texture spray.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 7:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's it. And then I'm like, hello.

• 7:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so you're just like, not like other girls and like, laid back? You're like, low maintenance? Would you call yourself low maintenance now? You're some, look, can we save for a spare to spare what's happening? You're tan, so you can look hot, doing anything. If you were pale, you would need to get three hours of glam to go outside. That's where we're at. Um, also, I do think, like, first of all, frizz in the summer is a thing. You can either fight it, or be one with it.

• 8:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Lean in.

• 8:01Hannah Berner?

  Lean in. Also, if it's on top of my head, I can't see it.

• 8:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No. And, again, the back of our head is really none of our business, but I wanna say it's pretty wavy back there. Remember when I was convinced I had curly hair?

• 8:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that, you were going through something, where you were like, "Can you treat me differently? I'm a curly-haired girl."

• 8:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, respect my, well, okay.

• 8:20Hannah Berner?

  You gaslit yourself.

• 8:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Look at that piece. That is curly.

• 8:24Hannah Berner?

  It's wavy.

• 8:26Paige DeSorbo?

  It's wavy.

• 8:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 8:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, anywho, that, none of this was even on the frickin' docket.

• 8:30Hannah Berner?

  Well, let's be honest, we never could get to anything on the docket.

• 8:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so we're at the time party.

• 8:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 8:37Paige DeSorbo?

  First of all, we can't, couldn't believe that we were even on the list, let alone, like, did the photo shoot, did the interview? Like, it was just, they're all very surreal. So we get invited to this cocktail party and we're getting our outfits. We're very excited. And I am a well-trained cocktail party goer. I know the exact timing that I take my beta blocker. Where I'm going to arrive to said cocktail party. So we do our pictures. We do the little like step and repeat. We're upstairs. We're, we're at the time where you're done mingling and you're gonna get a cocktail.

• 9:15Hannah Berner?

  And the bar is crowded.

• 9:16Paige DeSorbo?

  The bar is crowded.

• 9:17Hannah Berner?

  It's not easy to get the cocktail.

• 9:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Would you like to proceed from here because this is your story to tell?

• 9:25Hannah Berner?

  Well, I have to say, when I get to a party, I enter hot. Like I'm saying hi to everyone physically and emotionally.

• 9:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I was gonna say, and physically.

• 9:34Hannah Berner?

  Immediately my temperature rises.

• 9:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 9:36Hannah Berner?

  And I'm, I picked my dress, the white Versace. Mainly because it's beautiful, but also because I'm like, I could sweat through this and no one would know.

• 9:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:46Hannah Berner?

  I had another dress I really liked, but I was like, this is gonna be a nightmare. Cause then you just become the sweaty girl that everyone remembers you as, which is fine. I've been it before.

• 9:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't put me in a box.

• 9:59Hannah Berner?

  I just don't like to be typecasted all the time. So we get there, we run into Taylin Biggs.

• 10:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 10:05Hannah Berner?

  Miss Taylin.

• 10:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's just so freaking cute. I mean, I, I can't.

• 10:13Hannah Berner?

  Well, she walked up to you like Paige and you were like, you look gorgeous. And she was like, thank you. And then I was like, Hey, it's Aunt Hannah.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  And you were like, isn't Aunt Hannah silly? And I'm like, look at me, look at me. And she's like, I'm literally 11 years old and like, I don't understand the sense of humor.

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she is just the cutest.

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  No, how old is she?

• 10:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think she's like 11 or 12.

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  I think she's 11 or 12. She's so cute, so sweet. I can't imagine, like she's going through the same stuff we are at that time party.

• 10:43Paige DeSorbo?

  She has a better career than us.

• 10:45Hannah Berner?

  I was like, what are you talking to people about? She's like, I'm networking. Leave me alone. I was like,

• 10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally she's a,

• 10:49Hannah Berner?

  I'm just kidding.

• 10:50Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a little professional. She's so. But here's the thing that is so amazing about her. She is a little professional. And it's almost like this is her like after school activity. She is still very much a innocent little girl. Like she still is a little girl.

• 11:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, we don't want to go full Disney.

• 11:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's like it's and it's like very endearing, you know, like everything she's doing is like fun for her.

• 11:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I did talk to her. I was like, do you enjoy interviewing? Cause I love interviewing people. And she was like, I love it. It's my passion. And I was like, good. Cause I have that like tennis PTSD. Where if I see a kid who's like really good at something, I'm like, are you enjoying it or is someone forcing you? Are you happy? She was like, Hannah, I'm networking.

• 11:36Paige DeSorbo?

  She was, you're on my hair. Can you please get?

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  No, she looks so cute. And then we said hi to like our peeps. And then the heat started to hit me in particular. And I looked at you and I was like, it's very, it's very hot. It's eighty five degrees.

• 11:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And I wasn't really like, I was beta blockered up, so.

• 11:57Hannah Berner?

  You looked at me. You go, I took a beta blocker. And I was like, you looked at me, you looked me up and down. You go, you didn't?

• 12:06Hannah Berner?

  Left me for dead.

• 12:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, why are you freaking out? Did you not medicate before we arrived? And you were like, I literally forgot.

• 12:13Hannah Berner?

  I didn't, you know, I'm actually, I'm not that bad with those social events. I'm more bad at like a, a group dinner.

• 12:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're bad at a more intimate setting.

• 12:22Hannah Berner?

  Like that middle intimacy. Like if it's with two people, I'm great. If it's with five hundred people, I'm great. But if it's like seven. I don't know the rules.

• 12:31Paige DeSorbo?

  See, the time party is my exact, like if it's like a hundred and fifty people on a rooftop, I'm anxious.

• 12:39Hannah Berner?

  See, lucky I thrive because you, you're just running around. Hi, hi, hi, hi. You're running around. My problem is temperature. So long story short, we eventually lock eyes. And you're out to lunch. Who knows? You are high as a kite.

• 12:55Hannah Berner?

  You're in a happy place.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm literally, I'm taking pictures, I'm meeting people, I'm networking.

• 13:03Hannah Berner?

  People are just putting cameras in front of your face and you're just smiling.

• 13:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm smiling, I'm posing, I'm literally, I'm never in this mood and I'm having a great time. I'm actually in my head thinking, I might get a cocktail at this event. Like, I'm having a good time.

• 13:17Hannah Berner?

  I was at the point where I was like, water. I was struggling, I'm freaking out, I look at you, you're calm, a little too calm, a little eerily calm. And I go, I think, I think it's time we should get out of here. And you don't hear me. So I'm like, did you hear me or what? So I repeat, I'm like, we should leave. You still don't respond because you're, who knows what you're thinking about? And I go, look at me, do you want to leave? And you go, oh my god, of course.

• 13:46Paige DeSorbo?

  The only thing better than having a good time is leaving. So like, I could be having a great time, but if someone says, hey, let's get out of here, I'm like, that's amazing.

• 13:56Hannah Berner?

  Also, I like to leave on top. I'm not leaving on a low, I'm not having an awkward conversation then getting out. I'm getting on a high, I'm having such a good last sentence with a group. Everyone's laughing, I go, that's my time, thank you so much, I'm here till Wednesday. Get in the elevator, get out, so I don't have to think about anything I said that might be going around the party at this point.

• 14:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Best idea wins. And that night, it was your idea and that was to leave. And so, literally, everyone's leaving like this one area to go to like this other area where like the bar is really popping off. And our Irish exit was actually in one of the top five Irish exits I've ever done in my life.

• 14:37Hannah Berner?

  I've ever seen in history.

• 14:39Paige DeSorbo?

  As we're walking by the elevator, one magically opens, we pop our bodies right in there, we say, sir, press that button as fast as you can.

• 14:47Hannah Berner?

  We felt like spies, like we talked with our eyes the whole time. And we were like, sir, get us home. You didn't see anything.

• 14:54Paige DeSorbo?

  We are very honored to be on the list and invited to the party, thank you so much.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  No, we had so much fun, there were so many amazing people from like so many different entertainment areas. It was just very cool, but I'd have to say, New York City in the summer is not for the weak.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  It's absolutely not. And those rooftops, like you think because you're outside and you're on a rooftop, you're getting ventilation? You're not.

• 15:17Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 15:18Paige DeSorbo?

  The air is not flowing, it's stagnant.

• 15:20Hannah Berner?

  Because all the air is getting sucked up by other succubuses because there's 200 people and everyone's fighting over the same air.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And everyone's just, everyone's full glam, so no one wants to come super close to you because you're sticky. And then like everyone's glowing.

• 15:35Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 15:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Because they're so hot and sweaty.

• 15:37Hannah Berner?

  Also, it's one of those things where I've saw so many people that like I know online and I message a lot of people, like, once you message someone once, you're best friends, right?

• 15:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:46Hannah Berner?

  Isn't that the rule? So then I was obviously forgetting if I met them in person or not and that I had that same conversation like eight times and I was like, okay, we gotta go. We gotta go.

• 15:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You want to know why else I was calm? I had gotten the shot before we got there.

• 15:59Hannah Berner?

  Well, you did a whole ice cream photo shoot.

• 16:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's what it was. And that's, and I just realized that.

• 16:05Hannah Berner?

  Wait.

• 16:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I was going in with no pressure.

• 16:08Hannah Berner?

  For people who don't understand about Getty Images, I'm going to explain it to you right now. Because I didn't. Now I do. So you get glam for like two to three hours, depending on who you are. Um, and then you show up to an event and I don't know about you, but I still like kind of shake on the red carpet.

• 16:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Every single time, I like forget how to pose.

• 16:28Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, why am I shaking?

• 16:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally look like a Lego square on every red carpet because I like forget to turn my body or put my hand anywhere.

• 16:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, because you also, they give you literally 22 seconds or less.

• 16:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the other thing. So many people are watching you.

• 16:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. If anyone watches me do anything, I'll forget how to speak English.

• 16:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, so I'm like, can you guys look away?

• 16:50Hannah Berner?

  No, they're like, can you guys stop? Well, someone got a video of me from the side. And I don't know, I was trying to like stick my chin out. Like I looked insane posture from the side, but the front, it looks normal.

• 17:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you know the pictures are coming out and then you know people are gonna be like, "And that's what she chose to wear?" You're like, so you can hear it in your head as you're doing it? You're like, "Everyone fucking hates this dress."

• 17:14Hannah Berner?

  And then it's over in a second and then you're like, "Wait."

• 17:16Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, "Thank you so much."

• 17:17Hannah Berner?

  I've walked off the carpet before and then like, looked in the mirror and been like, "Oh, my hair is completely standing straight up."

• 17:23Paige DeSorbo?

  My dress wasn't pulled down.

• 17:25Hannah Berner?

  Yes, you get out of the Uber and immediately they're like, "Go on the carpet." And you're like, "You, my belly button's sweating." But the stress is that, yeah, everyone sees these photos and these photos then get picked up multiple times throughout the year whenever anyone wants to write a story about you. So it's not like they take a photo like a, and you never see it again. Like this photo lives forever.

• 17:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's usually the worst one you've ever taken in your life. I, I'm not kidding, I have a photo from the first year of BravoCon.

• 17:53Hannah Berner?

  When no one warned us.

• 17:55Paige DeSorbo?

  In 2017, that haunts the fuck out of me. I know whenever someone writes a story about me and they don't like me because they use that photo and I'm like, "Oh, you're a fucking op."

• 18:05Hannah Berner?

  They came for you.

• 18:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:07Hannah Berner?

  And it's funny because they take a bunch of photos, but they choose their favorite ones. Which also, let's be honest, no one chooses the photos you actually like of yourself because everyone sees themselves in a weird way and that's just like our messed up psychology. But you take these photos and then you can't enjoy the event because you're like checking to see when they go up to know if you wasted your entire day for a bad photo.

• 18:30Hannah Berner?

  And that sounds so depressing to say, but I need to, I keep it real with you guys on Giggly Squad. This is what's going on in our heads, but I actually liked my Getty photo and I realized it's because I was tan.

• 18:41Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what else I liked? Our Getty photo together, which rarely happens.

• 18:45Hannah Berner?

  That's the thing. The photos come in of Paige, the photos come in of me, the photos come in of us both. Sometimes one of us looks good, then it's a whole thing. "Can I post this photo?" And I sacrifice myself sometimes. You'd sacrifice yourself to, you're very, you have done that before.

• 18:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You can see the level of connection you have with your friend based on when she sends, "Can I post this photo?" And how much your friend loves you or not, if she says yes or no.

• 19:10Hannah Berner?

  Because I will look at myself and be like, "Don't love that," but then I'll look at you and I'll be like, "She deserves it. She earned that one."

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  That's so fucking true. But I also love that we still send to each other for approval.

• 19:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Whoa. We're not monsters. You know, we're girls, girls. We're not just gonna post.

• 19:31Hannah Berner?

  I hate when someone asks for approval and then when they post it, they've added like a strange filter on it. I'm like, nope, didn't approve that, that draft.

• 19:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Or I've seen photos where people like edit themselves and then not you. And I'm like, hey, throw a girl a teeth whitener once in a while.

• 19:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, look at yours.

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  Now I look like I'm from England.

• 19:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I had such an interesting thing happen to me on Instagram the other day that's never happened. And I've always like wondered. I'm scrolling, I'm just like doing my nighttime scroll, nothing crazy. I see a picture, I don't even, now I can't even remember who the picture was of. A celebrity though, and a carousel of an outfit. So I'm scrolling through the outfit and like, I like to look at the comments to see like where is certain things from. I saw someone that I know in the comments, making a rude comment. And it's like seeing your teacher outside of school. Like, not that I really knew this person very well, but like I recognized the name and I saw the profile picture and I was like, oh, I know that person.

• 20:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And the comment was like, I'm so annoyed that I can't think of who the celebrity was. Was commenting on this celebrity's appearance. And I was like, oh my god. I immediately unfollowed the person because I was like, that's so weird. You're a person that comments mean things on people's Instagrams? And it just never happened to me before where I saw like a legit person I knew and I feel, it felt weird.

• 20:57Hannah Berner?

  I've seen that before where I'm like, oh, they have this whole side to them.

• 21:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's very jarring.

• 21:05Hannah Berner?

  It's jarring. It also reminds me a little bit of like, if I see someone come for someone on reality TV like super hard, like to the point that they're bullying them, I get, I'm like, guys, that could be you tomorrow. Let's, I, we have like a weird perspective because we've been on both ends. What did, what's the quote? Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the thing they pee on.

• 21:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I'm not familiar with that one.

• 21:33Paige DeSorbo?

  But I'm going to choose to believe you because

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  Marilyn Monroe said it.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, sometimes I've seen my girlfriends in the comments where they're like, where is this from? And I'm like, she's so cute.

• 21:45Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm that person that's like obnoxiously hype where it's probably like Hannah, calm down. Like you don't need 800, like if I was a guy, I'd be creepy. Like, why do you need 800 fire emojis at your friend's selfie?

• 21:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I sent you and said I was posting.

• 22:03Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I know. I have a new word, like lingo for us in life. Gigglers, get your notebooks.

• 22:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:11Hannah Berner?

  You know, when you meet someone, which this is like very common for you because you're a Scorpio and their vibes are just off. Like you're talking to people and you can't figure it out. You just don't like them and you don't know why, but it's definitely something. The way I describe it now is sinister energy.

• 22:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Hannah Berner?

  Like I was describing actually a man from my past and, and the girl's explaining and they're like, how would you describe him? I was just like sinister energy. And she's like, I know exactly what you're saying. It's just like something is fucking off and I, I love the word sinister.

• 22:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, our final episode of

• 22:51Hannah Berner?

  Hannah Page Try New Things.

• 22:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Is coming out, well, when you're listening to this tonight, when we, we do a psychic reading in it. And one of the things in the psychic reading that she says is like the past couple of months, I was having a hard time trusting my intuition, which I actually said to a therapist, like I was like, I'm so good at like listening to my gut. In the past couple of months, I felt like I don't know, I can't listen to my gut. Like it's almost like it's not speaking to me.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally from the start of the summer, like not going back to reality TV, I feel like my intuition has almost been on another level. Like to the point where I can walk into a room and not even look around the room and feel like the energy is sinister. And be like, I have to move or like I have been in rooms recently where I'm like, I gotta go. I don't like it in here and And it's so weird because I was like watching that our clips like back and I felt that like it's almost like I felt it come back. Like I felt my gut come back.

• 23:58Hannah Berner?

  I feel like it's more than coming back. I feel like when you lose yourself and then you find yourself a- after losing yourself, it's so much fucking stronger because you're like, I'm not letting you go. And we're, we know not to question ourselves now because we question ourselves for what, for what?

• 24:16Paige DeSorbo?

  If people think that I was narcissistic on reality TV, I'd hate to, for them to meet me today. I'm obsessed with myself recently.

• 24:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never been more obsessed with myself where like.

• 24:32Hannah Berner?

  Number one fan. Fan behavior.

• 24:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like recently I've just been like, oh my God, good job. To myself in my head, I'm like, even if it's like an outfit, I'm like, wait, sick outfit, like good job.

• 24:43Hannah Berner?

  Like you're being nice to yourself for a second?

• 24:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I'm being really nice to myself recently, I feel like. And I'm like, wait, I love my life. I'm like, I'm having so much, I love my life.

• 24:55Hannah Berner?

  Mental health moment, sometimes I've actually had those moments in my darkest times where I like needed to be nice to myself or I wasn't gonna make it.

• 25:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  And I've actually sometimes been my happiest during a time where like other people might think I wasn't. Because I literally like had to sit down and like actively be supportive because no one else was. But then sometimes when things are going well for me is when I start to nitpick and I'll be like, because I'm like bored and I'm like, let's get mad at this, mad at that. But sometimes.

• 25:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Or like you do something and you're like, well, this actually could have been better about that.

• 25:31Hannah Berner?

  Yes, because you're like taking things for granted where when you lose everything, you suddenly like find gratitude again, not to be like, but anyway, the ups and downs, it's like just navigating your perspective on yourself.

• 25:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, also, I think I obviously went through such a, I'm going through such a transition period because before I left Summer House, I like made the decision that I wanted to leave, but in my gut, I was like, but how are you going to feel mid summer when you're not filming and when it comes out and you're not on it?

• 26:04Hannah Berner?

  You'll never know until...

• 26:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, in my head, I was like, well, I won't know and I'll have to deal with it then. And so I think this summer, like so many different things have happened and I've just been like, wait, I think I made, I feel like I really did make the right decision for like my life overall. And I feel like that was part of like, no, you trusted, your gut actually was right when you made the decision initially and now you're feeling the benefits of it and you're, I'm like proud of myself for trusting my gut.

• 26:33Hannah Berner?

  I also think there aren't necessarily like right or wrong decisions. It's more that like when you say something with your chest and you fully commit to it, the universe responds to it. Like I do think there's a version of you that if you didn't really believe it and half ass left the show, you could be twiddling your thumbs right now and questioning it, but you fully committed, trusted yourself and the universe is like, oh, let's go. Like, let's do what we want to do.

• 27:01Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:23Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 28:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine, and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 28:39Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 28:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 28:41Hannah Berner?

  Honey, and mine's black.

• 28:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 28:54Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit, not ruining the outfit. But also, I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 29:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 29:08Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 29:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the Gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 29:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important, because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands, because I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 29:31Hannah Berner?

  So cute. And they have all different length options for what you prefer, depending on how long your torso is. Visit columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket.

• 29:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:05Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:32Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:16Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:22Hannah Berner?

  Are One Piece bathing suits in?

• 32:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I think always.

• 32:27Hannah Berner?

  You love a One Piece.

• 32:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, can we talk about my White Lotus look, just for like a quick second?

• 32:31Hannah Berner?

  Yes, that's actually, I think, what inspired that note.

• 32:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so I was watching White Lotus, and when that episode came out, the girl, I think her name was Chloe in the show, she had this outfit on. I literally took a picture of the TV screen, put it into Google Images, and was like, "I need to find all of this." Figured out that it was a custom jacques-mousses look, so I was like, "Oh, he's definitely gonna make it for the masses." He made the skirt in a version, but it wasn't like to the floor, and it wasn't like how she wore it on TV, so I was like annoyed by him for that moment, but whatever.

• 33:10Hannah Berner?

  I digress.

• 33:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I digress. So I like literally just found everything that looked similar through like a Google Image search, and then I got that hat in Italy when I was there. Like, I saw it in the window, and I was like, "That's, I need that for my White Lotus look."

• 33:27Hannah Berner?

  Which season from White Lotus?

• 33:29Paige DeSorbo?

  The most recent.

• 33:30Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 33:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I saw Patrick Schwarzenegger in the pool, and I was just like, "You know, this is cosmic."

• 33:36Hannah Berner?

  And you go, "Somebody's gonna die."

• 33:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, "My look is amazing."

• 33:40Hannah Berner?

  I think also with fashion, and your confidence is a thing too, like if you wear something and own it versus like not really believe in it. There's also a time, I think, where, do you ever get, you were stressed out, like every outfit was like doomsday, like, "Fuck, are people gonna hate it?", versus when you're in your power, and you're like, "These bitches aren't even ready for this fit."

• 34:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think I literally like exhibited that before I went to Italy. I was like, "I have no outfits." Like, almost because I was like, people rag on me like so much sometimes for my outfits, that I'm, in my head, I'm almost like low expectations, like, "Oh, I don't have anything, it's not good."

• 34:16Hannah Berner?

  And you blew it out of the park.

• 34:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And that was like me being like mean to myself.

• 34:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:20Paige DeSorbo?

  But like while I was there, I was just having like the best time I've ever had there, and I was just like leaning into my outfits. I literally had a day where I was like, "Dad, I'm gonna put three outfits on, and I need you to take my picture."

• 34:33Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that was what I want to ask. Who is taking the photos?

• 34:36Paige DeSorbo?

  My dad. My dad is- I have trained my dad like no other man. Actually, a lot of my good pictures were taken on my G7X. But my dad doesn't really love using the digital camera, you know, and I quote, he said, I can rapid fire better on the phone. So that's what I like to use. But I'm like, Dad, there's a certain aesthetic with the digital. And so it takes too long to click down the button. So he gets angry, but he gets the job done and he literally stays until the routine is finished. And I, his commitment is, that's why I can't, I can't get married because whose commitment to the shot is ever going to be as good as his?

• 35:16Hannah Berner?

  What's Kim doing?

• 35:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, you want to know what? Kim weaponizes, um, her incompetence. I know that bitch could get it, but she'd rather say, oh, your dad likes doing it. Your dad can do it. And it's actually, this is a perfect example of if you work harder, you actually get the job rather than someone who might be more qualified.

• 35:40Hannah Berner?

  And, and you know what? Gary believes in himself. I don't know why or how, but he does.

• 35:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And he tries and tries again. And it's gone to the point where I can use lingo. I'm like, it's too much headroom.

• 35:52Hannah Berner?

  You go, make sure the light's hitting my left cheekbone. Thank you.

• 35:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, you see how you're tilting? It's making me look shorter than I actually am. I'm going to need you to come up. And so like, he takes direction well.

• 36:01Hannah Berner?

  You're, he's a full on production team.

• 36:03Paige DeSorbo?

  He really is.

• 36:04Hannah Berner?

  And the TikTok with him really made me laugh.

• 36:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And he loves doing TikToks.

• 36:08Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of family, I get an email saying audition. And I was like, oh, I'm back in the game.

• 36:20Hannah Berner?

  For Vera DeLeo.

• 36:23Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a manager.

• 36:24Hannah Berner?

  And I, so my dream is obviously to make Nana a star and. I don't know how it happened, but it's like for a legit show on Netflix. And I so I start reading the description and it's like eighty year old Italian woman.

• 36:41Paige DeSorbo?

  What wait, what giggler is at Netflix? It's like, I have the exact grandma. I know the exact one.

• 36:48Hannah Berner?

  Somebody was like, get Hannah's contact, cuz she's the manager. So I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing. I click on the script and it's like paragraphs.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:58Hannah Berner?

  Which, you know, Nana had a stroke a couple of years ago. Nana, I don't wanna put pressure on her. Yeah, so I actually sat on it for like a day. I'm like, do I even want Nana to stress out? But then I'm like, whatever. So I call her and she's like so calm. She's like, I'm ready. And I'm like, are you, so you're gonna like, you wanna practice with me and stuff? And she's like, I'll see you tomorrow. We'll film it.

• 37:24Paige DeSorbo?

  She, she memorized it.

• 37:26Hannah Berner?

  She memorized, but we also used like a little script to help her read it.

• 37:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:31Hannah Berner?

  She sits down, so calm.

• 37:33Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a star.

• 37:34Hannah Berner?

  Embodies this, like, it was.

• 37:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you wanted to cry. You almost cried.

• 37:39Hannah Berner?

  I was like, how'd you get that Brooklyn accent so good? Like she was, I wanted to cry, like, obviously it's very hard to book things. So I'm not saying she's gonna book anything, but I'm just so proud of her.

• 37:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, here's, but here's the other thing. What a core memory for her even doing it with you. Like even filming it and getting, and the fact that her granddaughter is in a position where she's getting these emails. Like that alone, it's like she did it.

• 38:06Hannah Berner?

  Well, Nana, her whole thing, she loves Hollywood. And I feel like she always wanted to be a part of Hollywood, but her life just went a different way. But she dressed like she was a Hollywood starlet. And she showed me every Marilyn Monroe movie, Esther Williams, Singing in the Rain, Frank Sinatra. Like that's how I was raised with this like. Love of movies.

• 38:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:27Hannah Berner?

  Yes. So then for at eighty-four.

• 38:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:31Hannah Berner?

  For her to have her first audition, like guys.

• 38:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's nice.

• 38:35Hannah Berner?

  Life is crazy.

• 38:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  You can start an acting career at eighty-four. So Nana, she's gonna be booked and busy. Um, but the best thing is she goes, I'm like, when can you come over? She goes, I'm getting my hands on.

• 38:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:47Hannah Berner?

  At noon, because my hair looks horrible right now. I'll come over at one-thirty and we'll shoot it. I said, get your glands on, Nana.

• 38:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Done, Nana.

• 38:56Hannah Berner?

  So I'm, shout out to Nana. I'm so proud of her.

• 38:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so proud of her.

• 39:01Hannah Berner?

  So if you are listening, Netflix, book her.

• 39:06Paige DeSorbo?

  One more thing I was gonna say about Italy, because you know how like certain inside jokes will like happen on a trip? And then like they last the trip. That's like, I feel like the sign of a good trip.

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  Yep. So true.

• 39:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And like at the end of our family trips, we always go around and say like, okay, what was your favorite part of the trip? And like, it's unanimous. It's always like something my dad has done on the trip or like something he said. And my brother's girlfriend is like a pure angel. And I knew that he was gonna be like obsessed with her on this trip because she could speak Italian. And so like, he, him and I also figured out that he has anxiety. I digress because he won't like say the word anxiety. But when he's ordering something, he gets nervous. Like, that guy. You know, we'll dive into this.

• 39:51Hannah Berner?

  Why are you holding my hand?

• 39:54Paige DeSorbo?

  When we're back in America, but this is a pretty big sign.

• 39:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just sitting at dinner like rocking back and forth like, oh no, you're perfectly normal. He's like freaking out, it's about to order. So he's like, really would like, just like hit her on the arm and be like, you know, do it like I'm nervous. Whatever. So the one day we're at breakfast and my brother's girlfriend is not, she's not like super health conscious, but she's like a normal girl. Like the one day she was like, I can't eat anymore. Like I have to have like a yogurt.

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  So we're at breakfast and she puts in her dish like yogurt, some fruit, a little granola, and then chia seeds.

• 40:32Hannah Berner?

  She's going sweet.

• 40:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she's going, just, she's just having a little parfait.

• 40:35Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And we're all watching my dad watch her make this yogurt parfait.

• 40:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Whilst on his plate, he's got cut up tomatoes, prosciutto and mozzarella cheese at 9 a.m. Okay? So he's looking at her almost like in disgust. And he goes, and so her final topping was chia seeds and he's never seen that in his life. He has no idea what a chia seed is.

• 41:02Hannah Berner?

  He goes, "That's made up. That's a made up thing."

• 41:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And so he looks at her and he goes, "What is that?" And she goes, "Oh, these are chia seeds. Like, they're really good for X, Y, and Z." My dad responds to her and he goes, "Yeah? I had a hamster one time ate shit like that."

• 41:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Tell her how you really feel, girl. For the entire rest of the trip, anytime anyone would say anything, we'd say, "Yeah? I had a hamster who ate shit like that."

• 41:37Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so funny. No, it's so good. But my brother's girlfriend is literally obsessed with my dad and all we did was make fun of him the whole time. But it was just one of those jokes that like will live on.

• 41:47Hannah Berner?

  No, that can bring a family together. A broken family can become a home again.

• 41:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it literally like unite, nothing unites a family more than picking on your dad or your mom. Like...

• 42:02Hannah Berner?

  My dad is literally like the funniest person I know and he loves a callback.

• 42:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:06Hannah Berner?

  And he can make like anything funny. And recently, he does this thing, I think it's a Seinfeld reference, you know, and like you just don't even know where things started, but it's become a thing.

• 42:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:16Hannah Berner?

  So if you're like in a house and like there's a weird sound and there's an awkward moment where everyone's scared, my dad will just go, my dad will just go, "Mr. Peoples?"

• 42:30Hannah Berner?

  So literally whenever there's like an awkward moment or any quiet, he just goes, "Mr. Peoples?"

• 42:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you are your dad.

• 42:40Hannah Berner?

  So I was literally watching Dez's brothers play tennis and this is my problem. I'll do inside jokes without reading the room.

• 42:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm sitting next to Dez's cool nephew and they're like arguing over a point and it's like getting quiet and I just go, "Mr. Peoples?"

• 42:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And did anyone say anything?

• 42:59Hannah Berner?

  He's like, "What? What does that mean?" I'm like, "I don't know if it's awkward or you hear a weird sound." Oh yeah, because there was a sound from the garage and Dad just goes, "What was that?" And I go, "Mr. Peoples?"

• 43:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I care if my dad was here, he would have gotten it.

• 43:15Hannah Berner?

  No, but then Kieran started laughing and that's, as you know, enabling me. And once they get enabled, you can't stop me.

• 43:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you can't.

• 43:23Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, shout out to dads for like once.

• 43:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, shout out to dads everywhere, you know?

• 43:30Hannah Berner?

  Um, quick update, speaking of dads, who I don't want to disappoint.

• 43:36Hannah Berner?

  My road test is officially on Friday.

• 43:42Hannah Berner?

  I had a therapy appointment this morning. What do you think I talked about the whole time?

• 43:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I literally texted Hannah. I was like, I can do the pod a little earlier if you can. She was like, sorry, I'm in therapy.

• 43:51Hannah Berner?

  Intensive therapy.

• 43:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I have, I have road test practice after.

• 43:57Hannah Berner?

  Last week I was supposed to have a test with Greg. He called me. He's on vacation, left me for dead, started freaking out. And then I'm like, okay, I'll drive with Dez, which I don't, it tests your marriage.

• 44:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I could imagine.

• 44:10Hannah Berner?

  We lasted like a full hour and then he was like, I need to go home. Like, this is, it's scary. Like, it's scary if I'm like having nervous moments. Um, but I have another, I had driving test, driving lesson yesterday, driving lesson today. And I was talking to my therapist because I said, if I fail, which is, let's be honest, 50/50. It's 50/50 at this point. I go, I feel like I'm going to disappoint the community. The community.

• 44:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No one gives a shit.

• 44:38Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's what she told me. She was like, if your friend is disappointed in you because you can't drive, I go, well, they already are.

• 44:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but let's take this back a minute.

• 44:50Hannah Berner?

  I just want to say I'm really hard on myself and like certain things, if I'm not confident in it, I get like so, like I have bad anxiety about it, basically. So Gary, me and you, we can hold hands, but I'm preparing as much as I can.

• 45:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Please don't blame us.

• 45:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Because we don't give a shit. It's really you would be disappointing yourself because you feel like you've put the time in and the effort. But if you fail, we don't care. I'd prefer you to fail because I actually don't think you should get a license at this point. If you haven't figured it out since now, I think you have so many other qualities. I'll drive your kids around because I'm, I'm actually nervous.

• 45:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's the thing. I'm like, if I fail, that means I have more work to do. And I shouldn't be out in the streets outside.

• 45:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And you shouldn't be disappointed. You should just put pen to paper again and like, because it's not safe.

• 45:42Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of pen to paper, I'm going to get a notepad and I'm gonna write, I'm gonna pass my driver's test a hundred times. So that's what I'm doing this week.

• 45:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking about bringing pen to paper.

• 45:53Paige DeSorbo?

  The discourse on the internet recently. About everything, anything. Let's bring back journaling. Let's bring back bringing pens and paper. Let's bring back. That's an inside thought.

• 46:06Paige DeSorbo?

  The outside thoughts have been getting insane.

• 46:10Hannah Berner?

  Well, people get attention by saying whatever, like the crazier the thought, the more views. And we're in this attention economy right now.

• 46:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think it was really, it was very interesting to watch people watch Love Island. As like a Love Island fan for many, many years and as someone who like just started watching Love Island USA and I'm an OG UK and even Australia.

• 46:41Paige DeSorbo?

  To see how out, it was, it was so interesting to see how our country specifically could not handle it. Could not handle it.

• 46:50Hannah Berner?

  Can you tell me like what actually happened? I mean, no spoilers or spoilers.

• 46:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna be so honest. I fell off. Once I went to Italy because I was like, I'm on vacation. Like I just like, I wasn't watching.

• 47:01Hannah Berner?

  Distracted by pesto.

• 47:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally. And once you miss three episodes, pack it in, honey. You're fucked. Unless you have a full day to dedicate it to. So I'm gonna be honest, I fell off. But I knew enough to watch on TikTok that like, I literally knew what was going on.

• 47:18Paige DeSorbo?

  So many different things that I think were just casting and production and like

• 47:23Hannah Berner?

  Mistakes.

• 47:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Social media is so much now that it's like people are like, oh, you know, they're coming on just to be influencers. Yeah, no shit.

• 47:32Hannah Berner?

  They already are influencers.

• 47:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Why the fuck else are they going on a reality show other than to change their life monetarily? And not have to go back to their jobs? Yeah, why is that like so crazy for people to understand? But there weren't real love connections, which I totally understand the viewer being upset by that.

• 47:49Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so no one found love?

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, not really and not till like the very end. It just was a very unique season.

• 47:57Hannah Berner?

  I thought everyone loved each other in the beginning.

• 47:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, kind of.

• 48:00Hannah Berner?

  Kind of.

• 48:01Paige DeSorbo?

  But it was just unique in terms of Love Island in general, like the UK, I've never seen this in the UK. But it was truly because social media, people just couldn't handle it being every single night in life. I mean, the things that they were saying, this one girl came on, she came on as in like Casa, just like this blonde, normal girl, whatever. She had obviously had done a lot of plastic surgery in terms of like filler or like lip injections. By no means was this girl the craziest girl I've ever looked at in my life. But could you tell that she had had her lips done? For sure. Was she a cute girl? Yes, she was like a normal cute little girl.

• 48:41Hannah Berner?

  Also, majority of girls in that house probably have their lips done.

• 48:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. The way the people eviscerated this girl was so shocking and mind blowing that I actually was like, we don't deserve Love Island. We actually don't deserve the show as a whole.

• 49:00Hannah Berner?

  It's fucking Hunger Games because you know what? It's at the point where these people do have power to become very wealthy, but they also can have their lives completely ruined. And there's been many, trigger warning, like mental health issues and suicide that's come out of Love Island and reality TV in general. So with that said, The people feel like they're able to be like Caesar and give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to people that you see for 15 minutes on a show where the producers are trying to frame them into a character that fits with a storyline that they're not even, they don't even know about.

• 49:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Love Island, like, production had to post every week, "Please be nice to the contestants, just to let you know, they don't, they're not seeing any of this when they get out, this is going to be very shocking for them."

• 49:51Hannah Berner?

  It also, this is a hot take, but I saw a lot of people, like, I guess, Amaya ended up being like the favorite, and people were like, "This is the girl we want to make rich, this is the girl we want to make rich."

• 50:03Paige DeSorbo?

  They were so mean to her, so mean to her when she first got on the show.

• 50:07Hannah Berner?

  Okay, because that's where I was confused, but then, it's like, the highs and the lows, it's like whiplash, because like, as someone who's been on reality TV, and you literally physically were there, when you're standing there with all these people, a lot of it's giving similar energy, this is just young people having fun, but then, once the edit comes out, people are put as like...

• 50:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Different characters.

• 50:29Hannah Berner?

  And different characters.

• 50:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you're watching, as they should, because you're watching an entertainment show.

• 50:34Hannah Berner?

  Show, yeah, their job is to turn people hanging out into a story of some kind that has to involve ups and downs, of villains, and angels, whatever.

• 50:42Paige DeSorbo?

  But I don't, people are so loud and so wrong, too, it's also like, they're not editing the show, like, people are like, "I can't believe she said that then," it's like, she, like, she, it was a larger conversation, what are you talking about, like, they're not picking what's on the show.

• 51:01Hannah Berner?

  I used to love reality TV where like, I loved the entertainment of it, but I wasn't leaving feeling like pissed off at a character, like, I was never mad at anyone, like, I was like, "That was a great episode, let's have another episode."

• 51:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And we grew up with Real Housewives of New York OG, like, and we weren't leaving mad at them, we were like, "That's crazy."

• 51:23Hannah Berner?

  That was a crazy night, yeah.

• 51:24Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy.

• 51:25Hannah Berner?

  Vanderpump Rules, like, you just appreciated the art form of it all, so...

• 51:28Paige DeSorbo?

  The renaissance of it, a Stassi slap is, it gives renaissance, like, and we...

• 51:35Hannah Berner?

  Heard around the world.

• 51:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And we weren't going to her and threatening her family, like, it was just like, "Oh, that was a crazy episode, and let's keep it moving because I have work in the morning."

• 51:45Hannah Berner?

  100%, 100%

• 51:49Hannah Berner?

  I do think we have to appreciate the art form, but these poor people, I think, you know what I think's gonna happen? They're gonna just have to start doing AI people on reality TV, and I'm telling you, it's gonna be exactly the same.

• 52:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, speaking of, I saw an article the other day and it was like, this influencer, like, um, did you see that?

• 52:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 52:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No. And things need to be illegal.

• 52:11Hannah Berner?

  There's, the internet is gonna take us all down, and I'm saying that right now.

• 52:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Things need to literally be illegal, like, they need to get a handle on AI before... I mean, you could make any video of someone saying anything.

• 52:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. The poor parents that are sending videos of, you know, cats flipping burgers, thinking it's real, you know? But also, yeah, we're just in a very fucking strange place.

• 52:38Paige DeSorbo?

  It's strange.

• 52:40Hannah Berner?

  I love how we started so high and now we've gone so dark at the end.

• 52:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's us.

• 52:45Hannah Berner?

  The world's gonna end, but at least we have each other.

• 52:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:02Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:26Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 55:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 55:42Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 55:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 55:44Hannah Berner?

  Honey, and mine's black.

• 55:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors and I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 55:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 56:00Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 56:01Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit, but also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 56:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 56:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 56:14Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 56:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important, because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no.

• 56:26Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 56:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that it has these things for your hands, because I I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 56:34Hannah Berner?

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• 56:45Paige DeSorbo?

  It's tough on cold, soft on you.

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• 57:18Hannah Berner?

  One positivity, me not having a driver's license, is apparently people who drive tend to get more sunburns. So my skin is really good, because I'm Actually, I'm in the, I'm in the front seat anyway, so I don't know if that's true.

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. And I love the idea of getting a little suntan in the car.

• 57:36Hannah Berner?

  True, like, let's be productive.

• 57:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Sitting there. I've actually truly have reverted back, since this is my first summer in so many summers, having like, I can do whatever I want. I've truly reverted back to high school summer page. All I care about is getting tan, wearing cute outfits, and like texting boys. Like, it's literally all I care about. I'm like, what am I wearing this weekend? Like, what's my text back?

• 58:05Hannah Berner?

  You're like an alien that just discovered what summer is.

• 58:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm like, wait, this is so, let's get a cocktail outside.

• 58:14Hannah Berner?

  I love how you never want to drink before, and now you're like, should I party?

• 58:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually sent a message to a few people, and I said, what are your thoughts on like doing like a day party situation one day this summer? Like, going to like a day party place? And they were like, no, we're almost 40.

• 58:34Hannah Berner?

  That's crazy, cuz I taught Dez on burner phone this week what a dartie is. He was like, "You made that up." And I'm like, "It's a day party, dartie. You never heard about darties?"

• 58:44Hannah Berner?

  And then you fall asleep.

• 58:45Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? That's probably a very millennial college term.

• 58:48Hannah Berner?

  So millennial. Oh my god. Someone was at Wimbledon, one of my friends was at Wimbledon, and I posted FOMO, but I put tennis balls as the O's. And then I screenshot it and I sent it to Grace, and I was like, "Am I in millennial jail?"

• 59:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And she said, "Absolutely."

• 59:05Hannah Berner?

  She was like, "I'm blocking your number."

• 59:10Hannah Berner?

  Oh, one more thing about Love Island.

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:13Hannah Berner?

  As someone who hasn't watched it, the heart rate challenge made me laugh, though, cuz I was like, "What's heart rate challenge for millennials?" Like, is it like when you see,

• 59:24Hannah Berner?

  the dishwasher get too full? And your heart rate goes up?

• 59:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, you know, I had a very niche one today.

• 59:33Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 59:34Paige DeSorbo?

  It doesn't even have to be a doctor's office. Honestly, it was like a CVS. Whenever I have a missed call and like a voicemail for like something that I have to get like a prescription, I'm literally getting like a skin prescription. I'm getting Tretinoin, going back to Tretinoin. I got a pimple injected the other day, and I started doing laser genesis.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  What's laser genesis? That sounds like an alien life form.

• 59:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Hold on. We need to have a page corner.

• 1:00:00Hannah Berner?

  Sounds like a UFO.

• 1:00:01Paige DeSorbo?

  For the pages, listen up.

• 1:00:05Hannah Berner?

  Hannah's doodle on your notebook.

• 1:00:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Occupy yourselves.

• 1:00:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so I get a lot of messages from girls asking like what lasers I've done, because we're so vocal about like not having Botox yet.

• 1:00:21Hannah Berner?

  I've never got one message like that. Continue.

• 1:00:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. So my one girlfriend sells pretty much all of the devices that go into dermatologist's offices. So like she'll always like send me like what she thinks I should do, or like what dermatologist, whatever. So I texted her the other day and I was like, I have a pimple and I need to go to a dermatologist immediately, if not sooner tomorrow morning to get it injected. She was like, I literally have the perfect one for you. It's right by my apartment. I go, she injects my pimple and she's like, let's start laser genesis. It's supposed to help with hyperpigmentation, building collagen, hydration, fine lines. It's supposed to be like everything before botox.

• 1:01:05Hannah Berner?

  Got it.

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You do a series of like, I think she said like six sessions and she recommends doing a series of six sessions twice a year. So I'm starting with, I just did my first appointment. I go again in two weeks. I think I did it once before, but I never like followed up and completed like all the sessions.

• 1:01:28Hannah Berner?

  Do you have to stay out of the sun?

• 1:01:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No downtime. Zero, like you get the laser and then you go. Same as like if you were

• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

  like going about your day, like you're putting moisturizer on and sunscreen, but nothing like crazy.

• 1:01:43Hannah Berner?

  Pain level?

• 1:01:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Nothing. And I don't have a high pain tolerance. I mean, I do when it comes to beauty stuff, but like if I can do it, it's fine. Um, it's like a little hot, but it doesn't feel anything close to like laser hair removal.

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I get my butthole lasered.

• 1:01:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, so you're fine. Um, so I'm gonna do that and let the gigglers know what I truly think. Um, because I feel like I have a lot of brides in my DM that are like, do you think I should do this before my wedding?

• 1:02:12Hannah Berner?

  Hmm. Yeah, I also tried to do a laser like last year. I went and because I was trying to get botox for my armpits and didn't go through. Anyway, and they were like, you should do this laser. And I was like, let's do it. And they were like, oh no, you have to like book that like next week. And I'm like, I'm never gonna see you again.

• 1:02:30Paige DeSorbo?

  So it was probably laser genesis because I feel like everyone our age is doing it.

• 1:02:36Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 1:02:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, but anyway, so I want to let the gigglers know that I'll let them know what I think, because it is expensive, so.

• 1:02:43Hannah Berner?

  You want to make sure that you see effects from it.

• 1:02:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and I feel like things are just like more expensive in New York City because because it's so annoying, but um, it's definitely expensive, but we'll see if it's worth it.

• 1:02:57Hannah Berner?

  I have an astrologer update. No, sorry, I have a psychic medium update.

• 1:03:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:03:04Hannah Berner?

  I saw a psychic last week.

• 1:03:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, you know, you know, I like to go on your schedule. I just saw it, you're one, and I like to do it when you do it.

• 1:03:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I know. So actually, I talked to Spirit Tiff. It's like Spirit T I F F. She's amazing. She's, and she's also like, she's gone to my shows. We were just DMing and she's like, I haven't talked to you in a while. Do you want to have a reading? And I was like, I'll never say no to that.

• 1:03:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:28Hannah Berner?

  My grandpa came through. I wanted to let you guys know, but some crazy shit happened.

• 1:03:34Paige DeSorbo?

  What? I can't believe we've been into the pod fifty-two minutes and you're just saying this.

• 1:03:38Hannah Berner?

  No, because my list was so long.

• 1:03:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:41Hannah Berner?

  So she was like, oh, your grandpa loves like the room you're in right now, because there's like a lot of sun. And like, I am in the sunroom, and like, the reason I love this place is because the sunroom reminds me of the sunroom that used to be in his house. Like, it has the same tile floors and like wood on the ceiling. And I was like, oh my god, and she's like, he loves your setup, he loves it so much. And she goes, are there flowers to your right? No, sorry, flowers to your left. And I was like, oh no, there aren't. And she's like, there aren't any white flowers to your left? And I was like, no, maybe outside, but I don't see any. And he's, she's like, he's pointing to your left. I'm seeing a white flower with yellow insides. And I'm like, no. And then I look down.

• 1:04:26Hannah Berner?

  My punch needle.

• 1:04:29Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god. That I'm showing on the YouTube right now is white flowers with yellow inside that was on the left of me. And she's like, he just wants to let you know he's here and he's guarding you.

• 1:04:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And he loves your punch in it all.

• 1:04:42Hannah Berner?

  And he thinks you have issues because punching is fucking crazy.

• 1:04:46Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so grandpa of him. He's like, wow, look at that punch in it all.

• 1:04:49Hannah Berner?

  But like, that was one of the craziest things that's ever happened.

• 1:04:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's, yeah.

• 1:04:54Hannah Berner?

  And she was just like, he's watching over you, he's there for you. He loves that you talk about him all the time.

• 1:04:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And that, I feel like, happens so much with psychic mediums. You'll be like, okay, I'll go into it with a grain of salt. And they'll say something like that. And you're like, and tell me all your secrets.

• 1:05:07Hannah Berner?

  Tell me all, so she's amazing. She's also just like easy to talk to and cool, but um, they also just help you be like, yeah, keep listening to your intuition. Like, do your thing.

• 1:05:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's almost like a re, that's why I like to do it like once a year and I usually do it at the beginning of the year. Because it is just like a reset of reassurance of certain things. So you're like, okay.

• 1:05:33Hannah Berner?

  It's also just like, if you feel uncomfortable is probably a reason and you know what it is. And just to always go back to like who you actually are and stop trying to be someone else is like, period.

• 1:05:45Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm wearing my natural curly hair.

• 1:05:47Hannah Berner?

  And that's why you've gone back to your curls. You're fucking Shirley Temple over here. Um, I've also been watching TV.

• 1:06:00Paige DeSorbo?

  What have you been watching?

• 1:06:01Hannah Berner?

  I started the show Mr. Robot. Have you watched it before?

• 1:06:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, is that on Apple?

• 1:06:06Hannah Berner?

  It's on Netflix. It came back. It's like started in 2016 with um,

• 1:06:12Paige DeSorbo?

  2016?

• 1:06:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, with Rami Malek.

• 1:06:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:06:17Hannah Berner?

  He played um, the singer in the Queen.

• 1:06:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  Queen, yeah. It's interesting. It's basically like Dexter for coding.

• 1:06:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:06:28Hannah Berner?

  Um, so if you're, so honestly, like, I'm, I'm not sure about it, but I, I like got through it, if that makes sense.

• 1:06:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I have no shows this summer. Wait, you know what someone said on TikTok and it's like so eerily true? This summer doesn't have a theme.

• 1:06:43Hannah Berner?

  The girls are scrambling.

• 1:06:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, someone dropped the ball on the summer theme. There's no summer show.

• 1:06:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, people have tried, but nothing's... I think Love Island has like honestly taken this toll on the community.

• 1:06:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It's taken a toll.

• 1:06:58Hannah Berner?

  People tried to do Tomato Girl Summer. People tried to do Sardine Girl Summer, which is very meat-coated. I knew that wasn't gonna stick.

• 1:07:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I guess, I guess maybe sardine. But last summer it was so, it's brat summer. It's hot girl summer.

• 1:07:09Hannah Berner?

  And then Charlie tried to be like, "It's still brat summer." And we were like, "No, you can't repeat like that."

• 1:07:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We have no, we have nothing. And I feel like I don't have a summer show. Like, the two shows I'm watching, Gilded Age and Buccaneers, it's like I have to wait each week.

• 1:07:25Hannah Berner?

  My mom is watching that because she knows you love those shows and she says you guys have the same taste.

• 1:07:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, a period piece will ju... Oh, it just puts me in a good mood.

• 1:07:34Hannah Berner?

  But I have been back on my bullshit with documentaries. I kind of think you might like this if you got high.

• 1:07:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:07:42Hannah Berner?

  It's called The Shark Whisperer.

• 1:07:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:07:45Hannah Berner?

  On...

• 1:07:46Paige DeSorbo?

  How high do you want me to get?

• 1:07:52Hannah Berner?

  More than Bader Blocker High. Okay, bear with me. This girl's like gorgeous, like blonde.

• 1:07:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm in. You know I love watching pretty people on TV.

• 1:08:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but she's pretty, right?

• 1:08:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Done.

• 1:08:04Hannah Berner?

  And she basically has always loved sharks. And I was like, okay, like do you. I support a girl, woman in arts.

• 1:08:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Have a hobby.

• 1:08:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so, but her whole thing is she's like, if sharks wanted to eat everyone, they would.

• 1:08:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:20Hannah Berner?

  So she's like, "I don't think sharks are this evil scary monster that they've been put out in the media, like Jaws and stuff." And I'm like, "Okay, okay, I love a villain-turning story. Like, let's go." And she's basically like...

• 1:08:35Hannah Berner?

  Swims with sharks in the wild. And can go down for like six minutes because she says it's mental.

• 1:08:42Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 1:08:43Hannah Berner?

  She's learned how they communicate.

• 1:08:46Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a fish.

• 1:08:47Hannah Berner?

  And she's a friend of theirs and she went viral because she takes photos with them. Because she's trying to raise awareness to stop just killing sharks for shark fin soup and that kind of thing.

• 1:08:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Shark fin soup?

• 1:08:57Hannah Berner?

  Shark fin soup is like a huge thing in Asia.

• 1:09:00Paige DeSorbo?

  The hell is out here doing shark fin soup?

• 1:09:03Hannah Berner?

  Hundreds of thousands of sharks are killed a year to just cut off their fin for this like delicacy. So she's fighting for the sharks, but she basically is like these sharks. They get scared. That's why sometimes they'll bite and then be like ew and like people just get bitten, but.

• 1:09:19Paige DeSorbo?

  This is so funny because a couple of weeks ago, my dad was talking about the summer we went to Martha's Vineyard and how we like stayed in the ocean the whole time and there were so many sharks and they were watching them from like helicopters. And I said, well, from the helicopters, then why don't they just shoot them? And my dad looks at me, he goes, that's highly illegal.

• 1:09:37Hannah Berner?

  Wait, Gary supports the sharks.

• 1:09:39Paige DeSorbo?

  He supports the sharks.

• 1:09:41Hannah Berner?

  Shark supporter. Well, you're watching it and you realize that they're like gaining trust in her and she basically basically showed them that she was a predator too. And held herself confidently around them to and it's incredible. So it's also like aesthetically beautiful. They're like in the ocean and she's like kissing these sharks.

• 1:10:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 1:10:02Hannah Berner?

  But it's just cool to see how there's different perspectives on stuff and sharks aren't monsters.

• 1:10:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Sharks are friends, not food.

• 1:10:12Hannah Berner?

  Well, you guys, thank you for giggling with us. We're so sorry we didn't do an episode last week and honestly, we regret it. That was fucked up. We were scared.

• 1:10:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, we were forced into not doing it.

• 1:10:20Hannah Berner?

  We were, it was doctor's orders. Um, I have to go do my road lesson. Thank you to all the gigglers who have been sending me advice on like where to take the test, what's, and give me parallel parking advice. I'm reading everything. You guys are amazing.

• 1:10:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Our DMs couldn't be more different.

• 1:10:39Hannah Berner?

  Um, also, Southampton Animal Shelter is overloaded with kittens. Check them out and my kittens are going to be available for adoption soon. So just keep an eye out.

• 1:10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I told the dog this weekend to stop following me.

• 1:10:50Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 1:10:53Hannah Berner?

  That's for next week. Bye.

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