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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:35Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the wifi.

• 3:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:48Hannah Berner?

  My matcha loaf.

• 3:51Hannah Berner?

  Is it green?

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  Because it's wicked week.

• 3:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's actually start with her eating.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  I was rolling, so we got that.

• 4:03Paige DeSorbo?

  What's up, my green gigglers?

• 4:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Hannah chose right now to have breakfast.

• 4:12Hannah Berner?

  That was a dry swallow. I have so much to talk about today. First of all, it's Sunday.

• 4:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:20Hannah Berner?

  Wake up glorious, snowing. Text Grace. At nine AM. She doesn't answer. I'm like, okay, she's probably brushing her teeth. She's just peeing or in the shower, maybe. She's always ready to before me.

• 4:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. And we have to be somewhere by eleven.

• 4:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so there's two hours, but like, it's nine.

• 4:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  So then I call her, she doesn't answer. Then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna call her again, cuz she might be sleeping. She might have overslept. Then I went full mom mode and I was like, she's lying down in the street, unconscious. Someone needs to find Grace.

• 4:53Paige DeSorbo?

  She went out last night.

• 4:54Hannah Berner?

  She went out last night.

• 4:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, do you have Grace's location?

• 4:58Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, not a location person. I don't, I don't even have my husband's location.

• 5:01Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 5:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you need to start taking down people's locations.

• 5:07Hannah Berner?

  Paige, we don't have each other's locations.

• 5:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't have your location?

• 5:12Hannah Berner?

  You're a sucker.

• 5:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait a second, I feel like.

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  The only person that you would wanna know.

• 5:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't have your locate. I always wanna know your location.

• 5:22Hannah Berner?

  Sierra just randomly took my location one day.

• 5:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I have Sierra's location.

• 5:26Hannah Berner?

  She likes just having it.

• 5:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I check in, I check in to see where she is every once in a while. Sometimes she really throws me for a loop. One time I checked, she was in like Vancouver.

• 5:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, she's always like in London.

• 5:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think having people's location is very important.

• 5:40Hannah Berner?

  Clearly not that much cuz you never asked me for it.

• 5:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you have a husband, you have other people that are watching you. Like, if you go missing, I'm probably not the first person that's gonna notice. It's gonna be someone else and that person should have your location.

• 5:53Hannah Berner?

  That's like when Des and I got in a fight because I put my mom down as my emergency contact.

• 5:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I didn't know that?

• 6:00Hannah Berner?

  You didn't know that?

• 6:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, for what?

• 6:01Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, some DMV stuff and he looks at me and he was like, did you just put your mom? And I was like, yeah, she's the only adult I know. And he was like, I'm your husband, I'm your emergency contact. I'm like, you're always with me. You're not my emergency contact.

• 6:15Paige DeSorbo?

  He's also like always out of town.

• 6:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you're always out of town on like speaking Mandarin to someone on the phone. You're a spy. I'm not putting your contact down.

• 6:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Normal is not having your spouse be your emergency contact.

• 6:28Hannah Berner?

  When does your mom not become your emergency contact?

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I think when you get married.

• 6:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait, no, no, no. My husband is not taking care of me. That's disgusting and not feminist. Also, I do have to say, people are like, oh, it's

• 6:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I think gonna start like a real, a real conversation.

• 6:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 6:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I don't think

• 6:47Hannah Berner?

  My dad's not my emergency contact ever. Why would I put my husband?

• 6:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you doeses, but you're doeses, obviously?

• 6:54Hannah Berner?

  I told him, how long have you been doing that?

• 6:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, do you want to put my mom down?

• 6:57Hannah Berner?

  No, I said, I said, I have my mom's number if you need. She's available for all of us at all times. That's her only job on this world is to make sure in emergencies, she's there for me.

• 7:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, should I put Lenore down?

• 7:08Hannah Berner?

  Also, side note, who's ever need an emergency contact? Cause I got hit by a car once and I'm pretty sure they were, they didn't have an emergency contact.

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, in my phone, like if something were to ever happen to me and like the police are like, oh, where's her phone? If you go in my phone, it, my mom is my emergency contact in my phone. You can make that like a thing.

• 7:31Hannah Berner?

  You're such a nervous Nellie. I love it. You're like, well, I'm very prepared for this moment.

• 7:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, if there's an apocalypse, someone's gonna call my mom.

• 7:38Hannah Berner?

  Can I say one thing about marriage too? Everyone's like, oh, it's embarrassing to have a boyfriend.

• 7:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:43Hannah Berner?

  More embarrassing to be married. And then I was thinking about gay people and how jealous I am. Like when gay people get married, it's a movement. When I get married, I'm embarrassing.

• 7:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, again, only for girls.

• 7:57Hannah Berner?

  Only for girls. Yeah. When men get married, everyone goes, thank God.

• 8:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Like when men get married, they're like, oh, he finally settled down. Like he like worked on himself. He waited.

• 8:07Hannah Berner?

  He's gonna be on track.

• 8:08Paige DeSorbo?

  He's like, yep, he's

• 8:09Hannah Berner?

  She's gonna hold him down. He was all crazy and think, yeah, she's his rock. She's holding him down.

• 8:15Paige DeSorbo?

  When we do it, it's like your life's like expectancy is gonna go down and just

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  Your friends stop acting for your location. They're literally like, bye, bye bitch. He goes, you're married. I'm like, okay, I never see my husband.

• 8:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, speaking of, um,

• 8:31Hannah Berner?

  We have so much to talk about today.

• 8:32Paige DeSorbo?

  So much to talk about. Did you see that TikTok video of the girl getting mugged in like, I think she was on vacation, like in like Columbia or somewhere?

• 8:41Hannah Berner?

  That's so your algorithm, girls getting mugged.

• 8:46Hannah Berner?

  No, I have nice sweet cat videos.

• 8:48Paige DeSorbo?

  She's got her backpack on, she's with her male friend, which we can only assume is her boyfriend, husband, or fiance, or it could be platonic, we don't, we don't fully know yet.

• 8:57Hannah Berner?

  See, I immediately went to gay, but continue.

• 8:59Paige DeSorbo?

  What we do know is she's got her backpack on, he's got his backpack on, they're looking at something, like, looks like they're looking at directions on the phone. Someone comes from around the corner, tries to snatch her phone. She starts fighting the guy, like, no, you're not taking my phone. The man she's with runs away. Runs away behind a wall, okay? This woman's fighting for her life. A random guy from the street sees it's happening, runs up, I think he might have even been like on a motorcycle or something, and like pulls up, runs to her, helps her, gets the guy away from her, and then her boyfriend comes like walking back into frame, like, are you okay?

• 9:44Hannah Berner?

  Talk about never being able to get wet again around him.

• 9:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I would actually murder him.

• 9:51Hannah Berner?

  Also, side note, if I did have a gay best friend with me, I feel like gay guys are the first to be like, let me beat his ass.

• 9:56Paige DeSorbo?

  There's also nothing I love more than being with my gay guy friends, and they start acting like your boyfriend, like at the airport, they're like, I'll grab your, I'm like.

• 10:05Hannah Berner?

  No, when you remember, like, wait, they're really strong, like.

• 10:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, sometimes Mitchell will do something, and I'll be like, oh my god, I forget that, like, you're a, like a man, you're a man, and people see you in the street, they don't know you, and like, you're a man, so they're all automatically like respecting you.

• 10:22Hannah Berner?

  It's funny, because that's like the only thing we need men for, is like to defend us in that very specific situation that may or may not happen, and it's funny, because I'm with an older man.

• 10:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And to take our bags down from the overhead.

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  Which they never do. By the way, actually, yesterday on the flight, I'm sitting next to this man, which I was like, oh no, this could go badly, didn't speak to me the whole time, I was like, I love this man.

• 10:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 10:44Hannah Berner?

  And then, I'm waiting at the end, he stands up in the aisle, so obviously, I can't go into the aisle to get my stuff, and he looks at me, and he's like, do you have a bag up here? When I tell you, I fly eight times a week. First time this has happened this year.

• 10:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Really? And you said yes and he took it?

• 11:00Hannah Berner?

  Actually, yes. Little did you know, I had like seven bags. I was like, yes. And he pulled on the luggage and he goes, what about this backpack? I go, that is mine too. He goes, what about that coat? I go, that is mine too. We're laughing, we're kikiing. And I said, we just brought men and women together.

• 11:11Paige DeSorbo?

  How old was they?

• 11:12Hannah Berner?

  He was, you know what? He was like a nice forty year old.

• 11:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Hmm.

• 11:20Hannah Berner?

  Like he was-

• 11:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Was he married?

• 11:22Hannah Berner?

  I don't think so, but he also, I don't know, he just was like old school.

• 11:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Did he give dad vibes?

• 11:28Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:29Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to get a dad because no one-

• 11:32Hannah Berner?

  You have to get a dad.

• 11:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to get a dad because no one under the age of twenty five, like man, is even like looking in your direction to take, like they don't even, that's not even running through their head of like, oh, maybe I should help them get a bag done. That's like not-

• 11:44Hannah Berner?

  It's crazy.

• 11:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really guys that are thirty to forty that you're like, hello? Where like past forty five, they're helping more.

• 11:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:53Paige DeSorbo?

  But-

• 11:54Hannah Berner?

  But also past fifty, they like can't.

• 11:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 11:57Hannah Berner?

  Like at some point, I'm like, I got it, sir. You're gonna pull a ligament. I got it.

• 12:01Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need the plane to turn around because you have to go to the doctor.

• 12:06Hannah Berner?

  Also, chaos ensued on one of my flights. A woman looks up and she goes-

• 12:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Why does this always happen to you?

• 12:13Hannah Berner?

  She goes, someone took my bag.

• 12:14Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my worst nightmare. That's actually my worst fear.

• 12:17Hannah Berner?

  I was in row two, so thank God, like it could only be like two people in front of us. It was just a mistake. But the person was kind of like, okay, well, you just have to go find them. So then I'm like locked into the drama.

• 12:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait. The flight attendant was like, okay, we'll go chase them.

• 12:33Hannah Berner?

  She literally go, we'll go get him, bitch. And I was like behind her, like, let's go, girl. So I'm just following her.

• 12:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my God.

• 12:40Hannah Berner?

  And she's chasing this guy and this guy is like, no idea. It's just a black bag. And then one thing I realized, and I didn't hear it specifically, but I want to say one other thing about men. Sorry, Chris. They never fucking say sorry. I say sorry if you hit me.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:57Hannah Berner?

  If you pummel me in the airport, I go, I am so.

• 13:00Paige DeSorbo?

  That's such a good point.

• 13:02Hannah Berner?

  Punch a woman in the face and she's like, I am sorry for what I did. Um, men, like I'll have Uber drivers or no, like a driver supposed to pick me up for the airport and be like oversleep forty minutes late. Doesn't say sorry when he gets there.

• 13:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:16Hannah Berner?

  Like, and this is not just one person. This happens all the time with men. They don't say sorry.

• 13:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And they don't use exclamation points when they're writing emails.

• 13:24Hannah Berner?

  And you know what? Part of me respects it.

• 13:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  I say, should I be more like that?

• 13:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 13:29Hannah Berner?

  But then I think, how am I gonna not say sorry for being an hour late to a pick up time to an airport?

• 13:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been really PMSing like.

• 13:36Hannah Berner?

  They make like, I made a mistake.

• 13:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:38Hannah Berner?

  Good for you. Good for you. Let it out.

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  That I was writing such a stern email this week that I started crying.

• 13:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally am typing and I go, hey, this is like actually kind of me.

• 14:04Hannah Berner?

  You're Sarah Jessica Parker, but for mean emails.

• 14:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Then at the bottom of the email, I go, I hope this didn't come off as harsh.

• 14:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm full on sobbing.

• 14:17Hannah Berner?

  Can I tell people what you do?

• 14:19Paige DeSorbo?

  When?

• 14:20Hannah Berner?

  Which is actually very healthy.

• 14:21Paige DeSorbo?

  When?

• 14:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so when Paige is really, really mad, but she knows that she needs to not say anything.

• 14:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:28Hannah Berner?

  She will write it out, like full flesh, like, like novels to people. Send it to me. I said, that was a good one. And she goes, thank you. And then deletes it.

• 14:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I write informational text messages to people I hate. I write full, like, and I.

• 14:51Hannah Berner?

  It's a form of journaling.

• 14:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I edit it. Sometimes I'll take certain paragraphs and I'll throw it in chat GPT and I'll be like, make that snarkier.

• 15:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, oh yeah, that's a good one. And so I'll type out a full fucking text message to someone. And I won't obviously send it to that person because like I could start a, I could start a, that like, companies would end, like things would happen, it would be crazy. So I just sent it to Hannah and I think.

• 15:18Hannah Berner?

  And I'll appreciate the line and like you get, it's so good. I mean, I'll do that with social media. Like you will not see me, like I will never, I'm not.

• 15:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You're not in the comments.

• 15:29Hannah Berner?

  In the comments at all, but if I do see anything that pisses me off, you just write it out. You have a little smirk because you're like, that would have been funny. Paige would have laughed at that. And then you delete it and you go on with your life.

• 15:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate people in two different senses. Like I can hate you and I will never acknowledge that you're even alive on this planet. And that's like, that's worse for you. And that means I don't hate you as much as other people. But I really just more like want to piss you off. But then there's another kind of hate where I'm like, I literally am manifesting for you the worst possible next five years.

• 16:06Hannah Berner?

  When are you getting your period?

• 16:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Hopefully.

• 16:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I actually think I have PMDG where I'd like my PMS because this week I've been visceral.

• 16:15Hannah Berner?

  I was PMSing, I actually just got my period. That's why I'm so relaxed today and gorgeous. Um, my luteal phase is over. I was bloated like a pig.

• 16:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm swollen and I'm mad.

• 16:27Hannah Berner?

  I'm swollen and I'm mad. Like the week before your period, you were so ugly.

• 16:31Paige DeSorbo?

  So ugly.

• 16:32Hannah Berner?

  I mean, you're gorgeous at all times, but like me, I was on vacation and I was like, that's crazy. Dez at one point was like, are you pregnant? And I was like, you're not supposed to ask people that. Like literally, you're not supposed to ask people that. And then I got a.

• 16:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Hippa violation. You're not even my emergency gonja.

• 16:49Hannah Berner?

  I'm just like.

• 16:49Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't ask me that.

• 16:50Hannah Berner?

  I got a headache. You know when it's like in your eye socket? Like it's, I'm like Googling, like what part of my eye socket? And then I'm like.

• 16:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you had a migraine. I had a migraine this week too.

• 17:00Hannah Berner?

  But you know what's so funny? I'm insane. So I've never called it a migraine. I'm just like, I have a really bad headache.

• 17:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I classify a migraine when like after I take Advil or Tylenol and it's still there. And like if I have to turn the light off, I'm like, oh, this is a migraine.

• 17:16Hannah Berner?

  I have to say one thing about my Oura ring.

• 17:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 17:18Hannah Berner?

  Because if you haven't noticed, I'm back on my Oura ring bullshit.

• 17:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, we, I don't think we ever really addressed it when you started it because I tried to just like ignore it.

• 17:25Hannah Berner?

  I love Oura ring.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You do?

• 17:27Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's fun because if I worked out, it would be more fun.

• 17:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:30Hannah Berner?

  Um, but I don't.

• 17:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 17:31Hannah Berner?

  It's more like me on tour being like, how tired am I?

• 17:35Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a fun game.

• 17:36Hannah Berner?

  You wake up and it goes, you're really fucking tired.

• 17:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Looking at your own social media.

• 17:40Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but this is the problem that I do have to raise awareness about Oura rings. So now it'll say this thing being like, you're really tired. Make sure you, um, relax today. So I've been using it, like, I haven't worked out in a month and does like, you should like, move your body a little and I go, uh, uh, my Oura ring. So I wake up, I don't even consider working out because I'm like, my Oura ring's just a rest.

• 18:03Paige DeSorbo?

  That's how I am with the app, The Pattern, which is basically like horoscope. It's like, everyone sucks today but you. And I'm like, I knew it.

• 18:10Hannah Berner?

  And period.

• 18:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I have an idea for Oura. If they made a version for animals, I would get it.

• 18:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Like if I could put an Oura ring on Kitty and see like,

• 18:24Hannah Berner?

  On her collar.

• 18:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like what's her sleeping patterns? Like, when was she awake last night? Is she hungry?

• 18:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's my furbo. Like my furbo lets me know, like I watch what Butter's up to at night.

• 18:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:34Hannah Berner?

  We don't know about a lot.

• 18:36Paige DeSorbo?

  But what we do know about is getting enough sleep and being rested. And when we don't get enough sleep, we're nightmarish.

• 18:44Hannah Berner?

  Nightmarish, sinister energy.

• 18:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a very lengthy morning routine, nighttime routine.

• 18:50Hannah Berner?

  You love a routine.

• 18:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I love a routine. I like adding things into my routine, taking things out of my routine. One thing that is a staple in my routine is my AG1.

• 18:59Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 19:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been using AG1 for years now. Honestly, I would say like 2019 is probably when I first started using it.

• 19:07Hannah Berner?

  And I'm so happy that AG1 now has something for our nighttime routine and we're so excited about AGZ. It's a new melatonin-free nightly drink that becomes a simple ritual we now look forward to at night.

• 19:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Add it into my nighttime routine all the time. I like to be working while I'm sleeping. That's one thing. People think we're like lazy. We're bed rotters. No, we're working.

• 19:29Hannah Berner?

  Working just horizontally.

• 19:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm recharging. I'm hair oiling. I'm getting my fill of magnesium.

• 19:36Hannah Berner?

  Yes. I also, I love a fun drink. I don't want to drink water.

• 19:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you don't.

• 19:41Hannah Berner?

  I don't. And at night, when you're not going out, I still want to have something fun, a little party in my bedroom.

• 19:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Now they have a flavor mixed berry that has right to the top of my list. Makes my routine even easier because it does taste so good. So I have it at nighttime because it has magnesium in it. And magnesium is very important for women specifically.

• 20:04Hannah Berner?

  And I'm obsessed with the chocolate mint right now because I make it hot. I make it hot. It feels nice on the throat. Um, I make it with warm oat milk since I'm off my dairy, as you know. And I sip it while cuddling my cat and it just tells my body like the day's over, we're slowing down, stop overthinking everything. Stop thinking about everything that you've done that's embarrassing in your life and let's relax. I wake up feeling rested, not groggy. Sleep is actually like our number one superpower. So it's melatonin free.

• 20:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm off melatonin. I'm all about magnesium and magnesium is supposed to be like better for women. It helps you sleep. And I just, I prefer it.

• 20:43Hannah Berner?

  I love a nighttime warm drink.

• 20:45Paige DeSorbo?

  You do. And I love a nighttime cold drink.

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  And that's where we're different but similar.

• 20:50Paige DeSorbo?

  But there's nothing like getting in bed. You've fulfilled all your tasks. Your hair's up in a bun. You're doing a mask. You have a face mask on. You've already journaled. You've picked your show for later. And you're drinking a nice drink.

• 21:02Hannah Berner?

  We're officially obsessed with our new nighttime routine. AGZ is the melatonin free nightly drink that helps your body and mind wind down and supports restful, restorative sleep. So you can wake up feeling refreshed. We love that you can work it into your nightly routine and turn better sleep into your new favorite ritual.

• 21:18Paige DeSorbo?

  If you're ready to turn down the stress and focus on the rest, head to drinkag1.com/giggly to get a free frother with your first purchase of AGZ. That's drinkag1.com/giggly. This segment was brought to you by AG1.

• 21:33Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of last night, and speaking of gays. Cause if you guys don't know.

• 21:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Just get going, Zommy.

• 21:40Hannah Berner?

  I was a gay in a past life, I am on a gay algorithm. I seek the gays approval like nobody's business. Um, I think there is something healing about like going from wanting straight male approval to gay male approval.

• 21:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Tot- wait, I have so much to say about this, I'm really happy you're bringing this up.

• 21:56Hannah Berner?

  No, you can, you can go on with this.

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I learned recently that there's.

• 22:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, she's moving stuff around.

• 22:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I need an area. There's gays gays, girls gays.

• 22:09Hannah Berner?

  Oh, cause the gays gays hate women.

• 22:11Paige DeSorbo?

  The gays gays hate women.

• 22:12Hannah Berner?

  They're rooting against us.

• 22:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, I rarely, rarely come into contact with gays gay. To the point where I, I don't know what's happening to me. You were with me one specific time.

• 22:23Hannah Berner?

  I attract gays gays. They come towards me.

• 22:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You attract gays gays. Where like all of my gay guy friends, they're girls gays, like they're excited, like. And here, I saw this video on TikTok and it was like, if you're a girls gay, you of any other species on the planet, watch women get their heart broken so many times. Not just from like relationships, just like them living. Like the abortion stuff, like all of that stuff, like if you're friends. Yeah, cause they're in our lives with us. Where gays gays are like only with gay guys and they like don't really give a shit about women. And I didn't know this was a thing until one time I was with a gay man and I was with Hannah and I was like, oh, I think he's maybe being mean to me, but sometimes I'm sensitive.

• 23:10Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm like, no, like I'm just being sensitive, like whatever. And then he said like a couple of other things and Hannah was like, then I saw Hannah get confused, I'm like, no, this is Paige, like.

• 23:22Hannah Berner?

  No, no, this, you can't talk like that to me, you can't talk like that to Paige.

• 23:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gay and this is Paige. Where's the disconnect?

• 23:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'll never forget this gay man.

• 23:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 23:34Paige DeSorbo?

  As long as I live, because I was.

• 23:36Hannah Berner?

  You wrote him, you wrote him over 10 emails.

• 23:42Hannah Berner?

  Some Giggly Squad shows, there are different girls gays too, where I think there's like a Paige gay and a Hannah gay.

• 23:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:48Hannah Berner?

  Because I don't want to, gay men do connect with me.

• 23:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, like some gays like love sports and those girls gays are your gays.

• 23:58Hannah Berner?

  Well, there will be some like very funny, like specific Bravo gays. Some of them do like me. Some of them are literally like, the Bravo gays have like kept me sane through my, for a long time.

• 24:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 24:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What Bravo gays?

• 24:16Hannah Berner?

  Every man on reality TV.

• 24:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, they're not out.

• 24:21Hannah Berner?

  I was saying like the Instagram.

• 24:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Those actually classified gays gays.

• 24:25Hannah Berner?

  Like Bravo by gays, like we love them.

• 24:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Like them.

• 24:28Hannah Berner?

  But occasionally on a Giggly Squad show, there will be like a guy, a gay guy raises hand and he'll be like, hi Paige, look at me and then ask you something about your outfit. And I'm like, oh, we're in a fucking fight. But then I'll have like a gay come up to me at like a coffee shop and be like, by the way, like, Netflix doesn't have a lot of specials I feel like I could connect with and watching your special, like I love you. And I was like, can you tell Paige? Because she thinks that like.

• 24:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Gay guys don't like me.

• 24:54Hannah Berner?

  They're like, kind of bad for my brand. Um, so there is a, we're learning that there is a range.

• 24:59Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a range and I was like unaware of it. And then I was like, oh no, I've actually experienced this.

• 25:05Hannah Berner?

  But look, misogyny comes in all shapes and forms.

• 25:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Shapes and sizes.

• 25:08Hannah Berner?

  Now, which brings me to, last night I watched the first three episodes of Heated Rivalry. Now, has Heated Rivalry come across your desk at all?

• 25:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It sure has.

• 25:19Hannah Berner?

  How so?

• 25:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I'm an avid show surfer.

• 25:24Hannah Berner?

  You are.

• 25:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And if there's something new on the platforms, I'm dialed in. I know what's coming out. I have things on Netflix, like Saved, Alert Me, Emily in Paris Thursday, like we know it. So when I was on Amazon and I saw, because there was another Amazon show, I forget what I, what it's called, but they were royal and they were gays. And I loved that.

• 25:45Hannah Berner?

  You love that.

• 25:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And so then I saw hockey players and I was like, mm. So I'm two episodes in.

• 25:51Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I didn't know.

• 25:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 25:53Hannah Berner?

  Did you start watching after I told you last night?

• 25:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I've been watching.

• 25:56Hannah Berner?

  Okay, sorry.

• 25:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been watching.

• 25:58Hannah Berner?

  I tried to take credit.

• 25:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, before you tell your story, one little fact I want the gigglers to know. There is not one out NHL player. There might be one in the minor leagues. I think maybe there's one in like the level below.

• 26:13Hannah Berner?

  I love that you immediately looked into this.

• 26:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, statistically, honey.

• 26:17Hannah Berner?

  Statistically, cannot be true.

• 26:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Cannot be true.

• 26:20Hannah Berner?

  Now, let me preface this because I know we recommend a lot of stuff on Giggly Squad. And I know that y'all are listening and you're like, oh, let's throw it on. And you know, the holidays are coming up and you're gonna be with your family. He's like, oh, Hannah Page mentioned this show, Heated Rivalry. Warning. Or, or.

• 26:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Or open a conversation. Open a conversation with Graham Graham.

• 26:40Hannah Berner?

  If someone brings up politics or anything homophobic, say, hey, I want to show you a new show.

• 26:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I've got a show for you.

• 26:45Hannah Berner?

  A holiday show. It's called Heated Rivalry. Now, this is my hot take about Heated Rivalry. It is everything I wanted Challengers to be and Challengers wasn't. And as you guys know, I have.

• 26:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, were they gay in Challengers?

• 26:59Hannah Berner?

  They were like teasing it the whole time.

• 27:02Paige DeSorbo?

  They were gay baiting.

• 27:03Hannah Berner?

  And in my head, I was like, if this was about like this love triangle, but the guys are actually hooking up and they're like in the closet on tour together, like I'm locked in.

• 27:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Locked.

• 27:14Hannah Berner?

  So Heated Rivalry, and by the way, when I first went to Wisconsin, Go Be Edgers, I was unfamiliar with hockey. I'd only known like basketball players, baseball players. I was from Brooklyn. I never met this breed of hockey man. They're pale, they're chiseled, they have bow legs, they have STDs, they have little fucked up teeth.

• 27:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:33Hannah Berner?

  They talk like this. Um, they're all, but they're all like kind of beautiful.

• 27:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, they're like, um, they're very like grunt, like.

• 27:42Hannah Berner?

  They're, there's like boys, dirty boys, boys, and they went to like college together. And their hair is always like straggly and they grow out there and they have all these names for each other.

• 27:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And they have to like squat on the ice.

• 27:52Hannah Berner?

  Honestly, I was into it.

• 27:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:54Hannah Berner?

  Because it's honest, it is figure skating, but then they like punch each other to remind themselves. It's like straight.

• 27:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's like, okay, that was a triple salchow.

• 28:03Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not pretend, it wasn't anything else but a Tara Lipinski flip. Let's be serious.

• 28:11Hannah Berner?

  No, they literally do a triple salchow and then they're like, huh, I'm straight. So, this is-

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, just a wild concept that there's a sporting event where they're like, yeah, if they want to punch each other, we're okay with it. As long as it doesn't go too far.

• 28:25Hannah Berner?

  It makes no-

• 28:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And then that's assault.

• 28:28Hannah Berner?

  At any point, a guy will just, it is actually like a form of-

• 28:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Because if anyone did that in any other sport-

• 28:34Hannah Berner?

  No, it's a form of theater. It's like, oh, he's, he's gotten angry. Like, if a girl did that, imagine if, middle of a podcast, I start punching you. That would be a problem. But no, it's, it's good entertainment.

• 28:46Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what I mean about like gang violence. It's like, guys, just go to therapy, talk it out.

• 28:49Hannah Berner?

  But also you know these guys get a beer afterwards, which is the even crazier thing. Or, they might be having sex. So.

• 28:57Paige DeSorbo?

  A lot of lovers' quarrels could be happening on the ice that we don't even know.

• 28:59Hannah Berner?

  That's why they've been fighting. The whole time they've been fighting because they're like, did you look at that guy's ass?

• 29:05Hannah Berner?

  We're figuring everything out. Now, ask someone, when I tell you guys, I was not a Jersey chaser. Cause I was an athlete, so it was more athlete on athlete crime. But like, in theory, like, I just loved athletes my whole life. All I want days, athletes. I've never looked at a poet. I've, I've dabbled in a musician, but he did play sports. And that was a mistake.

• 29:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And we learned and we grew from that.

• 29:27Hannah Berner?

  We learned and we grew. But I'm obsessed with athletes because as you guys know, I'm very strong. And athletes make me feel tiny. And like, just adorable and little around them. And they're like, you're so tiny. I'm like, I know. So then, watching this made me question everything. Cause in my head, I'm like- Well, I'm just like, the athletes on campus are the most manly, masculine, straight dudes. And look.

• 29:53Hannah Berner?

  Have I heard through the grapevine in real life that this may or may not have happened? So a couple of times, yes, but now I'm I'm looking at everyone differently.

• 30:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:02Hannah Berner?

  I'm looking around at every dude and I don't, Chris, I don't trust you. Like, if I was a dude, I'd be fucking my friends. Like, girls is so much more like, you gotta, you know, make them trust you. It seems very complicated. If you are just a horny dude, fuck your friend, leave us alone.

• 30:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, leave us alone.

• 30:22Hannah Berner?

  Go jerk off with your friend. Now, I I'm afraid I didn't even preface this correctly. Heated rivalry is about gay hockey players. And when I tell you, how is it 2025? Sorry, I'm very passionate about this. And we haven't yet had a like mainstream TV show of like a male gay love story that is so. I'm locked in.

• 30:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:45Hannah Berner?

  I'm locked in. Also, by the way, there is, it is, I don't want to be like, oh, it's gay porn. But like if you're watching a show where straight people hook up, it's a lot of sex. So just like warning people.

• 30:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Also.

• 30:56Hannah Berner?

  But there's no dicks.

• 30:57Paige DeSorbo?

  One point for like the male loneliness epidemic, like obviously like they're trying to blame it like all on the girls and like we're mean to them now and stuff.

• 31:07Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, maybe it's because the men can't create a space in which they're safe with each other. Like, there was this video on TikTok and it was like, this girl went up to like a certain amount of women and it was like, if you could move to a world where it was just all women, are you going? And every woman was like, fuck, yeah, like, I'm going. And then they asked the same question to men, like, would you move to a world that was all men? And every man was like, absolutely not. That's insane. I, why would we ever do that?

• 31:34Hannah Berner?

  But then all the men do is complain that they didn't can't hang out their friends enough, but it's the gay ones.

• 31:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, mind you, like, an all female world, I don't think would work either because, like, the amount of text messages.

• 31:45Hannah Berner?

  SMS would explode.

• 31:47Paige DeSorbo?

  But in like, just a low level thinking of it, we enjoy being with each other for long periods of time because we feel safe with each other. They don't even feel safe enough to be like, hey, I think that guy's hot. Could you imagine?

• 32:02Hannah Berner?

  What's great in that show is you, they can't communicate with each other. And he just keeps saying, fuck you, bro, fuck you. Like, that's how they talk. And then I'm like, that's literally how the guys always talk to each other.

• 32:13Paige DeSorbo?

  One day was like, wait, I actually think I'm attracted to women and I think I'm a lesbian. You're the first person I'm telling.

• 32:19Hannah Berner?

  You'd marry me.

• 32:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because if you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, so now I'm two people's emergency contact? Like, what? Like, no, you're none. When are you gonna figure it out?

• 32:31Hannah Berner?

  No, well, we, when men hang out, they have trouble express. I hope that men, Chris, do you have, do you have one guy?

• 32:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, how long have you been friends with your best friend?

• 32:44Speaker 03

  My oldest best friend is probably like sixth grade.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 32:48Speaker 03

  But I'm probably more closer with people in recent years.

• 32:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, when's the last time you had like a sentimental, like, deep, where you were like, man, that was a really deep conversation with so and so?

• 32:59Speaker 03

  Somewhat often.

• 33:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Really?

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, somewhat often.

• 33:01Hannah Berner?

  Chris is, like, Chris is our, our team.

• 33:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. How old are you again?

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Twenty-eight.

• 33:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Twenty-eight. So you are technically Gen Z, or no, you're on the cusp.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  It's like right on the cusp.

• 33:11Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like an older Gen Z.

• 33:12Hannah Berner?

  When was the last time you complimented your guy friend, like, earnestly?

• 33:15Speaker 03

  Oh, that's tough. Like, seriously and non-ironically?

• 33:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  Like, years.

• 33:20Hannah Berner?

  But actually, Paige and I don't compliment each other.

• 33:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That's not true.

• 33:23Hannah Berner?

  I'm just kidding. But like, the way I compliment you is, like, I'll make fun of you and they'll be like...

• 33:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but that's, well, that's different. But like, when you walk in somewhere and like, you look good, I mean, you look so good.

• 33:31Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, because then you're obsessed with me.

• 33:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:33Hannah Berner?

  And then when you don't say anything, I like have to go home and reflect on my decisions. It's a whole thing. But I digress.

• 33:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, did you have another point?

• 33:42Hannah Berner?

  Heated rivalry is so good. Also, I love that in film and TV, traditionally...

• 33:49Paige DeSorbo?

  In the arts?

• 33:50Hannah Berner?

  In the arts. I feel like gay characters were so stereotyped. When there's a gay guy, it's just the gay best friend. That's the only gay guy there is.

• 33:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 33:58Hannah Berner?

  And he doesn't have his own storyline, and he's, you know, bitchy and girly, and that's it. So just, um, them showing these guys, and they're not acting in like a theatrical, stereotypical gay way. Which, by the way, being a girly gay is perfect. It's just, there isn't one kind of gay, which we've discussed earlier in this podcast.

• 34:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's also like, they're not out, so they are almost like cosplaying, not be... Yeah, and so, it's actually, like, there's also an element to it where it's like sad, where you're like, wait, I wish you could just like be together and like tell everyone, like...

• 34:32Hannah Berner?

  And it's funny because at first, because I'm not used to seeing it, because I don't watch male gay porn.

• 34:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't?

• 34:40Hannah Berner?

  So I heard from the lesbian community.

• 34:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  Lesbians love male gay porn.

• 34:46Hannah Berner?

  And lesbian correspondents message me if I'm wrong, because I don't have false information out there. But some lesbians, it's like why

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I've actually, I've never watched

• 34:54Hannah Berner?

  It's why straight girls like girl on girl porn.

• 34:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Because they're so like removed from it, like it's almost like

• 35:01Hannah Berner?

  We still haven't been able to figure this one out. But lesbians don't want to watch two girls pretend to hook up. Where straight girls were like, okay, cute.

• 35:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Pretending?

• 35:14Paige DeSorbo?

  What do you mean they're pretending?

• 35:16Hannah Berner?

  I know she squirted.

• 35:18Paige DeSorbo?

  She really liked that, actually.

• 35:20Hannah Berner?

  But having a first one that

• 35:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I've, wait, that is actually really funny. I've never even thought to look for two gay men.

• 35:27Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 35:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I'm like, what am I gonna do here?

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  No, I've never clicked. Also, it seems

• 35:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I never even see it.

• 35:35Hannah Berner?

  Aggressive. I don't also, yeah, like I don't, two dicks, that's a nightmare.

• 35:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:38Hannah Berner?

  So then, but so watching it when they first start kissing, I, I, I think I got like a visceral reaction because I'm so not used to see.

• 35:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:46Hannah Berner?

  At first I was like, ah, and then by the second episode, I was like, put your finger in his butt. Let's do this. I'm locked in. And it was like, very hot.

• 35:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it also kind of shows a like part of it that we kind of forget that

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  Anal is like a thing.

• 36:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that like in 2025, there's so many men that are not out. And not just because I've dated half of them, but because like I look in the world and it's very sad.

• 36:16Hannah Berner?

  Well, think about it. All girls are gay.

• 36:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  All girls are gay. We have to come out as straight.

• 36:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:22Hannah Berner?

  We say, oh, I'm straight. I'm sorry. I'm straight.

• 36:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Well, we, we are

• 36:26Hannah Berner?

  Embarrassing.

• 36:27Paige DeSorbo?

  We're comfortable enough with our sexuality to be able to say like, that girl is so hot or like watch gay lesbian porn. Like I've never heard a straight man say like, I watch guy on guy porn.

• 36:39Hannah Berner?

  Because we're out here just being like, yeah, I obviously watched two girls. Watching a man is like

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't know. We don't know. But it may, but bottom line is in 2025, where gay marriage is legal and there's like

• 36:49Hannah Berner?

  I mean, we hope, we hope it stays.

• 36:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Continuing. That there's still men that feel like they can't come out.

• 36:55Hannah Berner?

  I also think there's a lot of men that are just like on the spectrum.

• 36:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:59Hannah Berner?

  Not

• 36:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Where they're like, maybe I'm bi.

• 37:00Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like where sexuality is all over the place. And with girls, it's more freeing and socially acceptable. Also, do you know how many girls you see on the street, holding hands that you're just like, oh, they're so cute best friends, but they're dating?

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of just, oh.

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• 38:41Paige DeSorbo?

  They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit: straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer, and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane, and this season it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two, like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready-to-wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically, you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night, because we're not doing all that getting dressed just to let him show up in a t-shirt.

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

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• 41:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I watched the Taylor Swift documentary.

• 41:22Hannah Berner?

  I watched the first two episodes too. Wait, we are, we never watch the same things. This week is like a miracle, you guys. Happy holidays.

• 41:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Even just saying you're impressed by her is like such a low level. I, and look, I like Taylor Swift. I, when I was in high school, like when that album, first album came out, like The Girls, we just got our license. It was life-changing. Obviously, like as time has gone on, I feel like I've missed a couple albums. I wasn't like as in tuned. But like now, she's like getting engaged and all this stuff and this documentary. She's so impressive. It's actually mind-blowing.

• 42:03Hannah Berner?

  Well, when you follow a celebrity just through like other people's concepts of them and tweets and random photos and narratives, so much is made up.

• 42:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 42:12Hannah Berner?

  And obviously this documentary like is made by her and she's putting forward something, but you can't deny what she's showing, which is first of all, she's a genius.

• 42:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Genius.

• 42:22Hannah Berner?

  Can we just say it? She's a genius. Like if she was a man, everyone would be like talking about her. Like literally like, like a philosopher. Like she's a genius.

• 42:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:32Hannah Berner?

  When she speaks, everything she says is so astute and smart. And then three and a half hours on stage. Paige and I, Paige and I.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's all, it's all I thought about.

• 42:44Hannah Berner?

  Three and a half hours.

• 42:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I, did you see the one part where she was like, I'm sorry, I'm just like, her mom comes in and she was like, I'm just like a little, like she wants to say anxious. Yeah, she's happy. All I could think of was like, do you take beta blockers? Like I wanted to know.

• 42:58Hannah Berner?

  I mean, seeing her get home from the show, take off her makeup and be like, oh, I'm like, I'm just gonna watch TV for eight hours.

• 43:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, like I can't come down.

• 43:05Hannah Berner?

  We were like, we're Taylor Swift.

• 43:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt like Taylor Swift, but think about how much more she's doing. I'd die. I'd actually die on tour.

• 43:13Hannah Berner?

  I love that she was like, I don't remember choreography. Um, so, and I go, I love, but it's, she's normalizing.

• 43:21Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, don't count to me. That's disgusting. I'll be by the word.

• 43:24Hannah Berner?

  She's like, I know what my strengths are. I'm really fucking good at what I do. And then I hire people to do the right things around me. And then like the fact that she trusts the people around her so much that she's like, I need to step it up for them. She's like, I have the best people in the business. And then.

• 43:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I thought it was crazy when um she was like, look, if the tour makes more money than projected, then that means everyone gets bonuses, which like when you hear that said, you're like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Like it grosses more money, whatever. But to then find out that like that happens all the time where the tour will make more money than projected and not the majority of artists are not tipping their crew like extra, I think speaks volumes.

• 44:06Hannah Berner?

  Well, there look, there's two types of people in the world, probably more. But one kind is like, I earned this, this is me, hoard all the money and I and all these people are so lucky to fucking be here.

• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:18Hannah Berner?

  And then there's people who are like, oh my God, I wouldn't be here without all these people who left their families. Also, the happier they are. It it starts from the bottom.

• 44:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:28Hannah Berner?

  Like if the person driving you is content and everything comes up from that, everyone is happier. And I do think what's cool about Taylor is you see like she knows she can make an impact. And like what they say in Spider-Man, with great power comes great responsibility. Like she knows that she can change someone's life and she she does. So the documentary is fascinating and I'm upset I never was able to go to the show.

• 44:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I went to the one at MetLife and it was incredible. I mean, like she is a performer, like and I've been to a lot of concerts before and you're like, oh my God, she's such a cute little dancer and she's so good. But Taylor is giving a full Broadway, there's no other way to describe it. It's a full Broadway theatrical performance. She's telling a story, she's talking to you, she's bringing on guests. I mean, three hours, I I couldn't even tell you a diff- another concert I've been to that was over two hours.

• 45:24Hannah Berner?

  I can't do anything for three hours.

• 45:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no, and how she did it every single night and then

• 45:28Hannah Berner?

  And focusing.

• 45:29Paige DeSorbo?

  To go where she went, like 220 places or something.

• 45:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I do love her relationship with her mom.

• 45:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I love her relationship with her mom. I also think that she's so mentally strong. Like to be able to meet with those families where they had children that were killed. And then for her to be able, and she's crying hysterically, and then to be able to be like, no. Compartmentalize it, now I have to go on stage. I'm like, I can't even.

• 45:57Hannah Berner?

  Also, a lot of people would be like, I'm not meeting with the families before the show. It's gonna fuck me up. Can we find a different time?

• 46:02Paige DeSorbo?

  All I was thinking was, before the show.

• 46:05Hannah Berner?

  She probably doesn't have time. And also, I think that she also was like, I need to do this. I need to see these people.

• 46:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And then did you see when she gets offstage, she walks offstage, straight into the car? Like, there's no, she's not changing, she's not stopping, she's just going.

• 46:22Hannah Berner?

  And as someone who sees a lot of people tour, some people like tour as a party.

• 46:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't get that.

• 46:28Hannah Berner?

  And they have like twenty people with them at all times.

• 46:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:31Hannah Berner?

  And there, it's, it's just a different kind of, she's an athlete.

• 46:36Paige DeSorbo?

  She's an athlete.

• 46:37Hannah Berner?

  Like a sport, which is what we try to do.

• 46:39Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a lot of jobs that I would say that like men take and just make alcohol events. But then they try and say they're working. You're like, nope, that's just you and your friends are getting drunk.

• 46:52Hannah Berner?

  Men invented meetings.

• 46:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Men invented, yeah. Have you ever watched Mad Men?

• 46:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, all they do is have scotch and then like talk about the secretary for twenty minutes and then be like, okay.

• 47:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's like, why is there male loneliness epidemic? It's like, guys.

• 47:06Hannah Berner?

  One thing I have learned to motivate the gigglers is like, now that I'm in my thirties, you know, you deal with, you're not like entry level job anymore.

• 47:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:14Hannah Berner?

  So you talk to people that are like high up at companies.

• 47:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So scary.

• 47:18Hannah Berner?

  Guys, no one knows what they're doing.

• 47:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No one.

• 47:21Hannah Berner?

  No one knows what they're doing. Like, I hope this makes you feel better. Oh, my recent flex though with.

• 47:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Unless you work, and let's be very clear, unless you're like a lawyer or a doctor. Yeah, that type of profession, you guys know what you're doing.

• 47:35Hannah Berner?

  Honestly, a woman in the field. But like, there's just a lot of people that have just like been at the job for a while. They're there, like they're not like, they're not doing something crazy that you can't do.

• 47:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:46Hannah Berner?

  Have some belief in yourself. You were mentioning emails with men putting exclamation mark in emails.

• 47:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh huh.

• 47:50Hannah Berner?

  Now, by the way, I'm not part of a company, so don't do what I do, cuz I like, I'm an entrepreneur.

• 47:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 47:56Hannah Berner?

  My recent flex in emails is like, no grammar. Have you noticed? So it looks like I'm s- cuz I actually am busy.

• 48:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:04Hannah Berner?

  So like, I, I respond like I'm so busy, but I'm just barely getting the response out. Like, like no period.

• 48:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Emails, Mark.

• 48:13Hannah Berner?

  You're literally on every email I want. So I'll just be like-

• 48:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know what? When I see Hannah respond, I go, oh, Hannah's responding.

• 48:19Hannah Berner?

  So this is when I say, this works, thank you. And I'll be like, all under K's, no period. I don't even put a space until my signature, just this works, thank you Hannah Berner.

• 48:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:28Hannah Berner?

  Cuz it's just like, we're, we're, I'm not like, hello. Thank you for regarding my last email. No, we don't have time.

• 48:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And I try and do that.

• 48:38Hannah Berner?

  Time is money.

• 48:38Paige DeSorbo?

  But then after I send that text ma- or that email with no punctuation, or I'm just like blunt ask the question, I'm like, everyone thinks I'm a bitch.

• 48:46Hannah Berner?

  No, I don't think that. I think it's funnier though, if you like have bad grammar and you're trying to be like, sincerely.

• 48:52Paige DeSorbo?

  When you're trying to be like more professional.

• 48:54Hannah Berner?

  Formal and it doesn't make sense.

• 48:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I left that when I left.

• 48:57Hannah Berner?

  And do you know why? Cuz if your email has multiple paragraphs, I'm not reading it.

• 49:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, sue me. I'm throwing in an LOL every once in a while.

• 49:05Hannah Berner?

  You love an LOL.

• 49:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I love an LOL.

• 49:06Hannah Berner?

  You, and you love what Hannah says, LOL.

• 49:10Hannah Berner?

  Cuz they're like, Paige, Paige, what do you think? Whatever Hannah said, LOL. Well, look, millennials are running stuff now, so we can say LOL.

• 49:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Absolutely. It's mandatory.

• 49:19Hannah Berner?

  Can I say one more thing about gay men?

• 49:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, it's my favorite topic.

• 49:24Hannah Berner?

  Jonathan Bailey.

• 49:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 49:25Hannah Berner?

  Who's the most handsome person in the world, um, is the first gay sexiest man alive. And I think we're just acknowledging that, first of all, all men are probably gay.

• 49:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:34Hannah Berner?

  So we might as well pick an out gay man now.

• 49:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. I'm pretty sure we said last sexiest man alive that it should have been Jonathan Bailey.

• 49:43Hannah Berner?

  He's so attractive.

• 49:45Paige DeSorbo?

  He's so good. Do you see when he really thinks something's funny and he like falls over? I'm like, that's adorable.

• 49:49Hannah Berner?

  Are you like attracted to him? Like, would you hook? Yeah, okay.

• 49:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm also attracted to, um-

• 49:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Pretty much everyone in heated rivalry.

• 49:57Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, who do you like more?

• 49:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Specifically, the um.

• 50:02Hannah Berner?

  Don't say the Russian.

• 50:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you know I don't like a blonde.

• 50:05Hannah Berner?

  You hate a blonde. Oh, you like the hairy one.

• 50:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, cuz he looks a little Italian. He's um.

• 50:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I love him. Is he gay in real life, you think?

• 50:15Hannah Berner?

  He is, which is crazy cuz he.

• 50:16Paige DeSorbo?

  That's good for them, but that's sad for us.

• 50:18Hannah Berner?

  He's Canadian. I looked him up. By the way, the Russian guy in heated rivalry was every single one of my Russian coaches growing up.

• 50:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Is he gay in real life?

• 50:26Hannah Berner?

  I don't know. They haven't, they haven't said. It's like kinda part of the allure.

• 50:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, interesting.

• 50:32Hannah Berner?

  So I just grew up with like handsome, young Russian and Ukrainian tennis coaches in Brooklyn. Who like, looking back now, I'm like, they were definitely hungover. They were partying, having a good time. But I was, they would just yell at me and I was nine years old and I'd be like, can I have water Sergey? And they'd be like, no bend your knees. But they were all so hot. So I got some PSD, P, PS, PTSD, DSTP, watching it. Um, but my final thing about hot gay men, the reason I like them so much is cuz they're my type in that.

• 51:01Paige DeSorbo?

  They don't like you.

• 51:02Hannah Berner?

  They don't like me.

• 51:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:04Hannah Berner?

  They don't, they are so disgusted by me and I'm like, oh, I love that.

• 51:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:08Hannah Berner?

  Oh. I stand around them. They're like, can you please just walk away?

• 51:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I don't know what's attracted me to all my gay boyfriends. I think just like hair and jawline, you know?

• 51:19Hannah Berner?

  They're attracted to you cuz they wanna be you and then you like attention.

• 51:23Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what it is. I attract them.

• 51:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and then you like people who like you. So next thing you know, you're just in it. I had a fun time in Mexico. Thank you for asking.

• 51:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, sorry, yeah.

• 51:34Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm just kidding. It was literally three days.

• 51:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Have you ever been able to go on a vacation and not have to leave early from work?

• 51:43Hannah Berner?

  It's hard.

• 51:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:44Hannah Berner?

  It's hard cuz we don't, we don't have, um, we don't love work-life balance on this podcast. But I did have to leave to do this like shoot on Friday. That's like, my face is in it. So I'm like, this is perfect. Like, I'm gonna get a tan.

• 52:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:00Hannah Berner?

  And I'm really excited. And then Dez goes, let's go snorkeling.

• 52:05Hannah Berner?

  By the way, never been snorkeling before. I'm from Brooklyn. We don't snorkel.

• 52:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Snorkel.

• 52:10Hannah Berner?

  It's not sky, it's not skydiving.

• 52:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not scuba diving.

• 52:13Hannah Berner?

  It's not scuba diving. It's actually, it's so funny because it, you're underwater, like it's, it's intense and you have the little.

• 52:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:21Hannah Berner?

  You're breathing underwater, but if someone, and you feel like you are scuba diving, but if someone looks from the outside, you're just lying in like the, in like the beginning of the water.

• 52:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:31Hannah Berner?

  Um, just like flapping around.

• 52:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:34Hannah Berner?

  But it, it, it was so beautiful.

• 52:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Did it just the two of you or was it like a group of people?

• 52:38Hannah Berner?

  It was just the two of us who just went out and there are all these different colored fish and there was one pitch, fish that was so page coded. It was like navy with these beautiful polka dots.

• 52:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, it was like polka dotted fish?

• 52:52Hannah Berner?

  I was like, every other fish was like these bright neon colors and this was like navy polka dot, just like, mm, and had these like cute lips. I was like, oh my god, there's Paige. I kept going, Paige bitch.

• 53:01Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, sorry, I'm on holiday.

• 53:02Hannah Berner?

  She's on holiday. Um, so I get out of the water and we take our, our goggles off. So I don't know words.

• 53:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Hannah Berner?

  And he has like a mark on his forehead and I'm like, ha, you have a mark. And he's like, so do you. And we go and we're eating and he's like, by the way, like the mark on your forehead is like not going away. I'm like, that's weird. And we get back to the town and I look, I busted a blood vessel in my forehead. Cause I, I snapped it too tight on my face. Cause I was so afraid I was gonna be drowned. So I was like, I need to make sure we're going underwater. So I made it too tight and snapped it.

• 53:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You can, then like you're, you're looking, you're gonna pop your fucking eyeball out.

• 53:42Hannah Berner?

  I know. I popped a blood vessel in the middle of my forehead where like, it was like all, like it.

• 53:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, do you have a picture?

• 53:49Hannah Berner?

  No, I was like that upset. It didn't, I'll look and no one put it in the newsletter, but like, I start freaking out because I'm like, I can't show up to this gig with a, a huge red. Like I tried to put makeup on it. It wasn't working and it wasn't a bump. Like it didn't hurt. It just, something popped under my skin and it was like leaking.

• 54:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Awesome.

• 54:09Hannah Berner?

  So, I love vacation.

• 54:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Which it does say, you're like, oh, this is a perfect time to emergency contact. Do anything. You're like, fine, I'll call my mom.

• 54:21Hannah Berner?

  He was like, how the fuck did that happen to you?

• 54:23Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so you, though. That is so.

• 54:26Hannah Berner?

  If it would happen, it happened.

• 54:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 58:22Hannah Berner?

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• 59:05Hannah Berner?

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• 59:17Hannah Berner?

  Also, I think, I'm so delusional. By like the third day, I was convinced that I was fluent in Spanish. Like, you know, the first day, you're like, oh my God, I can't speak Spanish. And the third day, I was like, I know what they're saying.

• 59:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, people say that you learn the fastest when you're immersed in it.

• 59:34Hannah Berner?

  I literally was like...

• 59:37Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, oh, they're fighting. Interesting.

• 59:40Hannah Berner?

  I, I fully knew, I was like, well, this is my problem with Spanish. I was trying to learn grammar. Apparently, you don't learn grammar first, you learn the words, grammar last. But in school, they teach you grammar first. That's, I digress. That's just...

• 59:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see Kristen Stewart doing that interview, being like, hey, let me ask you a question. You ever heard of a woman being a method actor? No, because it's not a thing.

• 1:00:04Hannah Berner?

  It's disrespectful and weird.

• 1:00:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so weird. It just says like, you have nothing going on at home? You can stay this person, you freak? Like, that's like when Austin Butler like became Elvis and like, he's still Elvis.

• 1:00:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Well, also, it's definitely not ideal. Like, it definitely throws everyone off on set when like you're at, you know, crafty and you're like, excuse me, can I please have some more of the chips?

• 1:00:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like you're not Mick Jagger in real life. Like, this is a... Biopic chill out like if I was married to an actor and he came home and he was that same character.

• 1:00:44Hannah Berner?

  I'm like you're not a toddler. We're not playing these pretend games anymore.

• 1:00:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd have to move out.

• 1:00:48Hannah Berner?

  I do think too with acting, which is kind of scary, like, you know, Heath Ledger with the Joker.

• 1:00:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Hannah Berner?

  They say like the way you think, you know, affects your life. And if you're in like a really dark character and you're constantly having these like negative thoughts. It does affect who you are as a person. It people have had like really dark.

• 1:01:08Paige DeSorbo?

  But I was just so happy she said that because it's like.

• 1:01:11Hannah Berner?

  I love her.

• 1:01:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Because we had had that whole conversation where like men can talk so passionately about like their careers and about their jobs and like women can't. Because it's like, but you have kids like the same thing with like the Whitney Levitt like, but what do your kids do? It's like, what?

• 1:01:25Hannah Berner?

  Well, I've been talking on stage about having kids and I'm like coming up with all these reasons why it could be difficult. And I literally just been spitting out. I'm not a male comedian. I can't just have a family.

• 1:01:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:01:38Hannah Berner?

  I can't just have a family and then joke about my wife and kids on stage every night while my wife is like sewing her butthole and her vagina together again.

• 1:01:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like there, people really don't talk about it. Like, I'm type A. I love a plan. I love like. You know, sitting down and being like, what's the next five years?

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, women have to do that.

• 1:02:00Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, we have to plan our children because you all turn, everyone turns against you. It's like, oh, and I'm also planning on.

• 1:02:10Hannah Berner?

  My downfall.

• 1:02:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Hannah Berner?

  Like I'm literally planning my own downfall. I'm digging my own grave.

• 1:02:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's very like out of body experience.

• 1:02:18Hannah Berner?

  And I do think it's important we talk about it because we are like second generation of any women having to deal with this. I called my mom crying when I realized I have.

• 1:02:30Hannah Berner?

  I'm not calling my husband crying.

• 1:02:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to test her. Like, is she gonna be perfect? She picked up.

• 1:02:34Hannah Berner?

  No, but I obviously was like, she's like, how are you? I'm like, good. She's like, are you sure? I'm like, actually. But I basically was crying about like that. I think I'm like, might become a mom one day. And I was so confused as to why I was crying. You know, when you don't know why you're crying. And then I was like looking into it and they were like, oh, you're grieving your past self. Like I was literally crying over the death of my identity that I am now, that I still am, but I know I'm gonna lose.

• 1:03:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I had a man one time asked to move in together and I immediately started crying, like, no.

• 1:03:04Hannah Berner?

  But it's also, it's not sad because I'm gonna be that, it's just sad that you, you're not gonna be what you were.

• 1:03:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Realize that at what some point it was gonna be over.

• 1:03:13Hannah Berner?

  And it might be a hundred percent better, but it's just still like sad to lose anything.

• 1:03:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Probably will be.

• 1:03:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's just scary. And I know male comedians whose wife have had a baby and the next day they're on stage working out material, like leaving their wife at home.

• 1:03:28Paige DeSorbo?

  The same as like graduating college and then you're going into the real world and you're like, it probably will be better, but this is all I know. And what do you mean we don't have a mixer on Friday night? Like, it's just like, it's a different.

• 1:03:41Hannah Berner?

  You're so El Woods. You're so El Woods. But you know what? I want to say something positive. It motivates me.

• 1:03:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:47Hannah Berner?

  Like seeing like the Ali Wong's and.

• 1:03:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it also, it's like, how is there even a debate that like men or women, that men are better than women? It's like, guys, we have kids. I actually said this earlier to someone, I can't wait for Gen Z to be at the age where they're having children, because they're gonna get some things done. Them with their tight, tight boundaries and they have a headache, they must leave. I'm so pumped for them to get into the position of like people being rude because their moms or like their jobs changing because they're pregnant, because I can't wait for them to be like,

• 1:04:29Hannah Berner?

  no, no, no, no, no.

• 1:04:31Paige DeSorbo?

  A man could literally never, so you're not telling me anything.

• 1:04:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, I face this thing where it's like, okay, I can just accept that other male comedians in stand-up will ascend past me after I have kids. And but then I stop and I go, actually, no, I'm gonna keep my foot on these bitches' necks. Because it's, it's gonna be difficult and it's gonna be hard and I am lucky because I have a mom who's gonna help me.

• 1:04:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Women can't even post their like after baby body without the internet being like. Fuck you. Like, if you post your after baby body and you, like, lost weight, people are like, "How dare you? Not the norm." But if you posted and it's like, and you didn't lose weight, it's like, well, why don't you think about your health? Like, there is no right thing for women.

• 1:05:14Hannah Berner?

  Also why I feel like female comics are so interesting, like, why people want to hear LeAnn Morgan talk, because I'm like, I want to hear a woman who's had, who has three grandchildren and three babies.

• 1:05:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:24Hannah Berner?

  And has dealt with her husband. And like, that's fascinating to me. Like, I don't want to hear another dude, like, make, like, sly comments about his wife that you know is, like, so annoyed with him. Like, you're not, like, she's annoyed with you. You're not the cool one on stage right now. She's like, "Oh, he's doing his little jokes." Speaking of boundaries, have you seen TikTok? This drama about solid core?

• 1:05:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, a little bit. Do you know that I live right next to a solid core?

• 1:05:52Hannah Berner?

  Which, apparently it's like Pilates, but-

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I wouldn't, I don't even dare look at it.

• 1:05:56Hannah Berner?

  Apparently it's Pilates, but like, super intense. I'm scared and I'm working on, like, loving myself, so I haven't been going. Um, so this guy, who, by the way, needs to get cast in reality TV. Like, if someone doesn't cast him, they're bonkers. He's this gay guy in Darien, Connecticut. I first saw him because he was just talking about what the Equinox steam room is like, and just talking about how married men were trying to hook up with him the whole time, which we have a theme for the pod today.

• 1:06:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, the Equinox steam room downtown?

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  In Darien, Connecticut.

• 1:06:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:06:24Hannah Berner?

  But, yeah, it's, it's all the Equinoxes.

• 1:06:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's gay.

• 1:06:28Hannah Berner?

  Equinox. He basically was like, this guy fully was like flirting with him for six months, showing him his dick, has a wife. Um, so he shows up to, he clearly loves solid core more than anything. He, and he shows with solid core at 6 a.m. The instructor's not there. But the door, he has like a login, the door's open, he goes in, and he's filming it, and he like, starts giving himself a private lesson at solid core, because he loves solid core. And then the instructor comes in late, and they're just laughing, whatever. He posts the video. Solid core starts freaking out, like, "Can you take it down?" His friend messaged him.

• 1:07:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Why are they freaking out? Because he was in there by himself?

• 1:07:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and it makes them look unprofessional. And-

• 1:07:07Hannah Berner?

  He literally then films a video being like, fuck you, solid core for like, telling my friend to tell me to take it down. You're so unprofessional. Goes off. Then, next day, shows up at the solid core class.

• 1:07:19Paige DeSorbo?

  The 6 a.m. class?

• 1:07:20Hannah Berner?

  Filming it. And you hear the lady be like, hey.

• 1:07:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That's all I saw. Like, hey. And then you said, sorry about the video.

• 1:07:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, he goes, sorry about the video.

• 1:07:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I just heard her say, well, my probation.

• 1:07:30Hannah Berner?

  I think, so she was gonna say, well, my probation makes me apologize to you or something. So he's in like a full feud with this solid core, but he keeps showing up because he loves solid core so much. He's like, they could punch my mom in the face and I would still show up to the solid core class? So everyone's like-

• 1:07:45Paige DeSorbo?

  What is it? Is it like-

• 1:07:46Hannah Berner?

  Hardcore Pilates.

• 1:07:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but so you're not like running or anything?

• 1:07:50Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no. It's Pilates, but just like-

• 1:07:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like strength training.

• 1:07:53Hannah Berner?

  More intense. Yeah. So-

• 1:07:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I don't wanna-

• 1:07:56Hannah Berner?

  People in the comments are so funny because they're like, I know, I feel like this is a solid core ad. I just can't put my finger on it. But then everyone's like, I wanna have the boundaries and the, how he's dealing with, um-

• 1:08:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, he's not a people pleaser at all.

• 1:08:10Hannah Berner?

  He's dealing with conflict like so well. But the thing is, he is just, he's a man.

• 1:08:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:16Hannah Berner?

  Which helps.

• 1:08:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:17Hannah Berner?

  But everyone's just watching how he's walk, just walks into a class. Like, I would move out of the state.

• 1:08:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:23Hannah Berner?

  If I got, if anyone's mad at me.

• 1:08:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because if it was a girl, that would be girl on girl crime.

• 1:08:31Hannah Berner?

  Mean girl, mean girl. He's hilarious. He's a star. Put him on reality TV.

• 1:08:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, the misogyny of men getting away with so many horrible things. And a girl will do one thing that's like off color or like something every girl's done.

• 1:08:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:46Hannah Berner?

  And we're like-

• 1:08:47Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a monster.

• 1:08:47Hannah Berner?

  She's a monster.

• 1:08:49Paige DeSorbo?

  She's evil.

• 1:08:50Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, you're all perfect. We love you guys so much. We do have some announcements coming up, but just stay posted.

• 1:08:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't wait to hear them. I guess I'll see it on email.

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