Giggling about dark arts, dissociating, and cupcakes

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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:32Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:40Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 0:49Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:05Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social, like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:22Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing, it's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 1:48Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt, for real.

• 1:54Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:06Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:21Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:22Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate. Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afegato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite.

• 3:22Hannah Berner?

  You know, we're making art here.

• 3:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:37Hannah Berner?

  Good morning, my...

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Galapagos Island gigglers.

• 3:43Hannah Berner?

  Someone literally was like, Hannah has one job to come up with G-words, and she literally can't. Anybody?

• 3:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Never, ever. You would think you'd Google something.

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I don't use AI. This is, sorry, I'm not chat GPT-ing it. This is just from the noggin, and it doesn't always work.

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, in today's day and age, we want that more. I just saw on the internet, wait, I just saw, it was either like Complex or like WorldStar posted it. But like, China is, China's doing like Olympics with robots right now.

• 4:19Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 4:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and like, they're not doing well.

• 4:23Hannah Berner?

  No, use the men. Use the, there's plenty of men that could go fight right now.

• 4:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, low-key sad because the robots will just like fall and like be broken.

• 4:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, especially because you hate when inanimate objects get hurt.

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, yeah, I'm like, but also, robots freak me out. So, I have a weird relationship with them as an object because I'm like...

• 4:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because during our like, prime brain-forming years, there were like multiple movies, like iRobot and other stuff that came out, and we were just like, we see the future, don't need to be involved in that.

• 5:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Want to know something weird that like, no one else is going to get but you? But whatever this, whatever this is, our podcast? I'm on the wrong side in the Zoom, and I don't like it.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  Wait, me too. How do we switch it?

• 5:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think you can. I think because, I don't know. Whoever was on first, I think then like changed our order.

• 5:26Hannah Berner?

  When you said like, no one else is going to get this but you, I was like, well, what about the gigglers? They understand everything, and then you say a niche, specific tech thing that we have on Zoom? And I'm like, yeah, you're right, maybe the audio podcast listeners aren't going to appreciate that. But thank you for bringing it up.

• 5:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I just wanted to know if you have the same thinking pattern as I do.

• 5:45Hannah Berner?

  I know for sure, because I keep looking left and you're not there.

• 5:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You're always to my right.

• 5:50Hannah Berner?

  I have to make housekeeping announcement.

• 5:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 5:53Hannah Berner?

  As you guys know, the reason my massacre was so stressful was because I had booked my first ever like hosting gig. And I couldn't speak about it, so I was like fighting for my life, trying to express myself.

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You literally couldn't speak about it.

• 6:11Hannah Berner?

  I couldn't speak, and then I couldn't smile. I was trapped in my own body and face, but finally, they're letting me give a little tea.

• 6:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Your mouth is really good right now.

• 6:23Hannah Berner?

  I thought it was good, and then I hosted the cat event, and I looked at the photos after, and I was like, oh, no, I'm still a freak.

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, right when you said cat, mine came out from under the bed.

• 6:32Hannah Berner?

  Because she knows.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:33Hannah Berner?

  She knows it's her time.

• 6:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, Hannah had an event and didn't.

• 6:37Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, Daphne, you can't be the face of every campaign relating to cats.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Take a day off.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  She's calling her agent right now. She's like, there was a cat cafe in West Hampton and no one contacted my team.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, I looked at the pictures, not one cat had blue eyes, so like, what are we doing here?

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my God. Um, so anyway, early 2027, mark your calendars.

• 7:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 7:03Hannah Berner?

  I'm hosting a dating reality show called Making Love.

• 7:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Sexual.

• 7:11Hannah Berner?

  I'm entering my matchmaker era.

• 7:14Paige DeSorbo?

  The marketing team had no idea what they were in for when they were like, who should be cast? Oh, Hannah Berner, Hannah Berner seems like a good host for this show. And they're like, great, she's got a podcast, you can talk about it on her podcast. Never did they think that their show would be getting watched based on Hannah's botched plastic surgery.

• 7:36Hannah Berner?

  When I tell you I can't move my mouth until maybe episode six, slightly. I mean, the first, and let me tell you, the team behind this show is the team behind Love is Blind, Married at First Sight. Like, these are the real deal. Like, I'm not doing a dating reality show unless it's like the creme of the creme. Is that the?

• 7:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Creme de la creme.

• 7:59Hannah Berner?

  Creme.

• 7:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You combined creme de la creme with cream of the crop because...

• 8:04Hannah Berner?

  They, you get me. So, these people were like really, like, they knew what they were doing. They knew how to do a hit show, and I was sitting in my trailer, and I'm like, I'm going to ruin everyone's day. Like, I just was scared I was getting fired. So, the good news is I didn't get fired, but what I loved about the show is it actually really reminded me of you and your dating style. Because you remember when we first met, I think you talked about this on TV too. You had your like insane fucking list. You're like, I want a guy who makes me pancakes in the waning.

• 8:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I still have it.

• 8:36Hannah Berner?

  Do you still have it?

• 8:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 8:38Hannah Berner?

  Do you check it?

• 8:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 8:40Hannah Berner?

  Do you update it?

• 8:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Absolutely.

• 8:43Hannah Berner?

  Do you take stuff out?

• 8:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep, like, I've grown older. I've had different accommodations. Like, there are certain things where I was like, wow, I don't need a man for that. Take it out.

• 8:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, the becoming a professional plumber really helped with a lot of those things.

• 9:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Handy around the house. Interesting.

• 9:06Hannah Berner?

  So the show is called Making Love and it's this, it's this really fun concept. I'm obsessed with it. Where what if you could create your fantasy partner? So they basically had people come in with a list, whatever they wanted. It's their fantasy. And then they went out and found that person to see if they actually would fall in love. If you found someone who checked every box on your list. But then also that fantasy person that comes in gets to create their own fantasy person. So it was fucking crazy. Once everyone comes in and they're like, that's your perfect person. That's what you've been waiting for. Is this gonna be the love of your life now?

• 9:48Paige DeSorbo?

  And you could meet your perfect person and be like, I hate this person.

• 9:52Hannah Berner?

  Do you know how many times on a dating app, I'm like, that's my perfect person. And then like, you meet them and you're like, why am I creeped out? Why are his eyes like that?

• 10:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Or like when you meet a really hot guy and then you like start talking to him and then like after thirty minutes or like a year, you're, you're like, I, I think you're hideous. Like, how many men do you know that people find so hot that you're like, like you would vomit?

• 10:19Hannah Berner?

  I just, wait, no, I actually.

• 10:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I can't. I know who you're thinking of and I actually, I can't.

• 10:25Hannah Berner?

  Well, you're like me where once we move on, we move on.

• 10:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:29Hannah Berner?

  Well, no, you've dabbled in the past before.

• 10:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, look at my dabbling in the dark arts is different. And I've moved on.

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  You guys, Paige just coined, when you hook up with your ex, it's called dabbling in the dark arts. Use it, move forward with it, do what you need with it. That ate. That was so, Angel somewhere just like, I've taught her well.

• 10:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I'm over it. I'm just trying to like ruin your life a little more.

• 10:58Hannah Berner?

  You actually do like revenge a little more than me.

• 11:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I would say a lot. I called my mom a week ago and I said this verbatim. I need more revenge. She goes, I think you've had enough.

• 11:12Hannah Berner?

  But I also think that you can be less emotional than me in relationships. Like you know how to like turn off for evil. Like when you have a purpose, you can like detach. You're good at detaching.

• 11:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Great at detaching.

• 11:26Hannah Berner?

  You're really good at disassociating. These are things that could, we could talk to someone about, but.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That's Kitty. This is a kitty came to sit on.

• 11:34Hannah Berner?

  The video listeners are getting so much good stuff.

• 11:36Paige DeSorbo?

  When your cat decides to come up to you and sit on you, like I'm sorry, you're a millionaire. Like that is, I'm the richest woman in the world right now.

• 11:48Hannah Berner?

  We talk about cats every episode, but like,

• 11:51Hannah Berner?

  I don't like, I don't mind people. You know how many people came to my cat cafe and they were like, I don't like cats. And then within three minutes, they're like, wait, that's cute as fuck. I'm like, okay, no, no, they just didn't know. Like they don't know. They just hear of cats through people who talk shit about cats.

• 12:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 12:09Hannah Berner?

  Are meeting a friend and you've only learned about that friend through people who don't fuck with that friend. Of course you're not gonna like that friend.

• 12:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but showing up to a cat cafe and verbalizing that you don't like cats is if I walked into an AA meeting and offered everyone a cocktail.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  Non-cat people like really strongly identify against cats. So they like, they like have to say it. They're like, I have a dog. I like, they have to. But you know what I realized? This is why we love cats. Cats are that fucking girl. People who've never even been in the same room as them hate them.

• 12:46Hannah Berner?

  Like everyone's out here hating you and you've never even met a cat and you hate them and you're talking shit about cats. And you literally use the H word. You hate a cat. That takes star power.

• 12:59Paige DeSorbo?

  It really does. It really does.

• 13:01Hannah Berner?

  Star power. And then they spend five minutes in the room with them and they're like, they're actually like really, really nice.

• 13:06Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a little girl.

• 13:08Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, I also decided I wanted to do this. Cause I obviously have taken a break from reality and I wanted to wait for like the perfect opportunity to get involved as a host, being in full control, minus my emotions and smile. Um, and I love love. I am a romantic. I love love. But I was really bad with height. I'm not gonna, I've been, I'm bad with the height stuff.

• 13:30Paige DeSorbo?

  While you're hosting?

• 13:32Hannah Berner?

  When I was dating.

• 13:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I thought like you as the host, you were like, okay, I would never pick you.

• 13:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, oh, it's a short one. We weren't expecting that. Okay. It's very interesting to go from reality TV to then like hosting reality TV.

• 13:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 13:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Like when you were filming, did you have your own inner thoughts about people that like, obviously you're not saying because you're the objective one there. You're like the news reporter. You can't have a side.

• 14:04Hannah Berner?

  No, I was fully had sides. I was crying. But it's part of my job to, like by the end, I felt connected to everyone in a certain way. Cause you guys know how I speak to men. Some of these men I whipped into shape. Like from the very beginning, some guy was like trying to be funny, chatty chat. I put, I said, ah, that's not how we're doing it in this house. I would, I felt like the substitute teacher who was like, I don't know who you've been talking to previously this year, but I don't fuck with this shit. And then by the end, like, once you get them to like, like you, then you, you, they open up. And that was like the most fun part. Like I, I had so much fun making them laugh, but then like, I saw some of these people like find love. I saw some of these people get their fucking heart shattered on TV.

• 14:47Hannah Berner?

  And there's moments, you know, when you're a host, like you're standing there, they're changing positions with cameras. And they make eye contact with me like I'm their like big sister. And I was like, I gave them like thumbs up, like you're doing great. Like, like trust yourself. Like, I don't know. I just, it was a little healing for me to be back in that place and see people on reality TV. But a dating competition is so different than like a Bravo show.

• 15:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think the gigglers know this one thing about you. Um.

• 15:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm scared.

• 15:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah gets like really upset if you're really hot and you like say that you have, you're having trouble dating.

• 15:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Because she's like, I don't get it.

• 15:33Hannah Berner?

  When you see a really hot person and they are like, I can't find someone. I haven't dated. I'm like, bro, you, you could date anyone you want, girl and guy. So it, it makes me think that like there's stuff they haven't worked on internally. You got, we all know those really hot people who were like forty-three and they're like, I don't know. I just haven't ever found someone. I'm like, I don't trust that.

• 15:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:56Hannah Berner?

  It really annoys me. But I think what's so cool about this show is a lot of people are like, well, they're, I haven't met my dream person. They're like, okay, here it is. Here's your dream person. We looked all over America and we fucking found that person, plus more and better. Can you make them, can you actually, is that your, can you fall in love with them? And it, it made people question like what they thought they wanted. And I got to kind of challenge people's beliefs and be like, so you said you wanted a guy like this, but he's like this. Does that mean you're not gonna give him a chance? Like if he has a slightly different, um, spiritual belief or if he's a different nationality than you thought, like, nation, why do I say Midwest nationality?

• 16:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes you do go like straight Wisconsin.

• 16:45Hannah Berner?

  You know, it was a time, it was a time in my past that I.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, okay, if I looked up my list right now, I actually.

• 16:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 16:53Paige DeSorbo?

  If I looked up my list, let's see, went like the last time.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a list on my phone that says, Dear Paige.

• 17:04Hannah Berner?

  You're adorable. And I knew that like, if this was on paper, it would have been script with a heart. Dear Paige.

• 17:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes for manifestation, I write a letter to myself, um, that congratulates me for things that I haven't accomplished yet, but that's how I manifest. Okay. Twenty twenty, I haven't looked at it since twenty twenty-four.

• 17:24Hannah Berner?

  Wait, this is huge. I'm set.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, she's a lot.

• 17:31Hannah Berner?

  Give us some of the good ones.

• 17:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Um.

• 17:38Hannah Berner?

  Give us the most outlandish ones.

• 17:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay if I make more money. I just don't want him to be jealous of it.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's huge for you.

• 17:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Likes sports not controlling, understands my anxiety. That's really huge for me.

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  Wait, that's really good. I love how you're like, can't say that one, can't say that one.

• 17:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I just wrote, deals with like house stuff.

• 18:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's so valid. No, but like one thing I'll say that like is on here that I never had in my twenties is like of good character. Like, I feel like once you hit your thirties, there's certain things that like men will have done in relationships that aren't even like that bad. You're just like, oh, okay. That are truly non-negotiables once you're in your thirties. Like if you lie to me about any, even the what you had for breakfast that morning, get the fuck out of, I can't do it. I can't, lying is probably like my number one thing. Where in my twenties, I feel like I'd be like, oh, well, maybe like he was embarrassed and he didn't want to say this or like maybe I got it wrong. Maybe he really did go, now I'm like, you're a fucking liar.

• 18:49Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what your twenties is too? And I'll be so fucking real. It's like you want to see who will pick you. Like you're like, what quality of guy will, can I get to pick me? And like, don't be pick me, don't be pick me. Your twenties is like what you, you're like, who am I? And what kind of guy am I gonna be like with? And then, once they pick you, then you realize, oh, fuck. I have to have a relationship with them. And then, you've been picked by a guy you thought you wanted to pick you. This is actually such an important thing to happen in your twenties. I had that guy, like, everything on the list, I got.

• 19:31Hannah Berner?

  And, and we were in like, the perfect looking relationship and then I was, I couldn't eat and I was having panic attacks in the shower. Because, everything on the list was correct and I still wasn't happy.

• 19:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 19:46Hannah Berner?

  And then I realized, oh, the perfect person is the one that when you're with them, your cortisol levels aren't spiking. You guys are laughing together. He believes in you. He's your, like, those are the things, not a guy who doesn't cheat.

• 20:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right, right. I used to think that you had to like, accept the lesser of the evils. Do you know what I mean? Like, like I used to be like, I used to date guys and say, okay, bud, he'll never cheat on me.

• 20:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And I remember I dated one guy and I was like, but I feel like he'd make like a good husband and he'll like never cheat on me. And you were like, you can't stand the sight of him.

• 20:26Hannah Berner?

  It's also, but it's not your fault. It's based on your past trauma to be like, this is my biggest fear. I need to make sure it doesn't happen. When love is like a lot more deeper than that, but also simpler, like, I always say a relationship is a conversation that goes on for years. Who do you want to keep having a conversation with?

• 20:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, Hannah, you.

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 20:50Hannah Berner?

  No, but we, and we're speaking from a place of like, we both do have parents that aren't divorced, like, which is kind of crazy in this day and age.

• 20:59Paige DeSorbo?

  It actually is.

• 21:00Hannah Berner?

  And one thing that I've heard from both of our parents' relationships is that they like each other.

• 21:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Hannah Berner?

  They like, in the mornings, they're like, talking to each other. Like, parents talking to each other in the morning is so fucking cute.

• 21:14Paige DeSorbo?

  People get really mad about, really mad at me about this and really just like ex-boyfriends that I've said this to. I one hundred and ten percent truly and fully believe, and I don't care what anyone else's rebuttal is, that the man has to like you way more than you like him. And I think both of our moms are with men that would die without them and like them way more.

• 21:44Hannah Berner?

  I agree with that to the point that like, if you ever feel like you're forcing it with a guy, if you ever feel like you have to convince a guy to like you, move on, move on, move on. So, Making Love is gonna be on Paramount Plus in early 2027. And I think the show's gonna be game-changing epic and just challenges all your beliefs of like, if you could create your perfect person, your fantasy person, would you actually fall in love?

• 22:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so excited to see your looks.

• 22:13Hannah Berner?

  Because we're women in STEM, it's important to be experts at a lot of things. And one of the things we are experts in, is sleep.

• 22:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Dare I say, I'm an expert in the entire bedtime night routine.

• 22:22Hannah Berner?

  Dare you say yes.

• 22:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I've maximized my skin routine, my hair masking. I'm, I'm really getting into bed mode an hour before I'm in the bed.

• 22:33Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you don't just jump into bed. You're not a Neanderthal.

• 22:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right. I have steps.

• 22:38Hannah Berner?

  Also, I've mastered the locations where I sleep. I'm like an infant. I fall asleep in any moving vehicle.

• 22:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:44Hannah Berner?

  Airport, subway, car.

• 22:49Hannah Berner?

  The second the vehicle moves and I could fall asleep.

• 22:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like a baby.

• 22:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, any position, I could fall asleep like this, like this, like this. Will your neck hurt after? Yes, but.

• 22:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's okay if your neck hurts after, because all you have to do is go to a real woman in STEM at Mattress Firm. They have legitimate sleep experts. The last time I went to go pick out a mattress, I ended up talking to a sleep expert.

• 23:11Hannah Berner?

  Which is the most fun date ever.

• 23:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, I ended up talking to a couple of sleep experts.

• 23:16Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they pulled out everyone for you?

• 23:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I went to different locations because I was just browsing.

• 23:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  They truly know how to maximize your sleep. And that's what you want, because there are some nights where you're not gonna get your full eight hours. But you need to be able to maximize your time in bed.

• 23:32Hannah Berner?

  Also, some people will call it lazy. I would call sleep the most important part of your existence. If you don't sleep, you can't grow, you can't think, you can't talk.

• 23:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And as two women who have figured out how to create an entire business from our bed and yapping.

• 23:46Hannah Berner?

  I got ten hours of sleep last night.

• 23:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I think we know. Did you?

• 23:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it doesn't look like it, but I did.

• 23:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I got an adjustable base bed and I will truly never go back. You know, in the mornings when you wake up and you're like, I do want to do my emails, but like it's Saturday morning, I'm not getting up, I'm up.

• 24:01Hannah Berner?

  I, as a sweater, love the cooling technology at Mattress Firm, because nothing will keep me up more at night than feeling hot. Cool mattress, oh, I want it freezing.

• 24:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Dare we say, your pillow's always cool on both sides.

• 24:18Hannah Berner?

  And that's cold science.

• 24:19Paige DeSorbo?

  And the real women in STEM are the actual scientists that are at Mattress Firm.

• 24:24Hannah Berner?

  Instead of you trying to figure it out yourself, they tell you exactly what you need, what you want. And one thing about us is we know what we don't know. And when I walk into there, I said, tell me what I need.

• 24:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:36Hannah Berner?

  Go to Mattress Firm, talk to their sleep experts and get matched with your perfect mattress. Like a true woman in STEM.

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  For the great sleep you deserve, visit Mattress Firm.

• 24:45Hannah Berner?

  They make sleep easy, www.mattressfirm.com. Anyway, you were at the track this weekend.

• 24:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I was. You know, I didn't take any pictures, not even of my outfit, and I wore a hat.

• 24:56Hannah Berner?

  What kind of hat did you wear?

• 24:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a big, black one.

• 25:00Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 25:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's the track. We go once a summer, honestly. And it wasn't that hot this year, which was good. But, we go to like this bar after. And so like, we're at the track for probably like, I don't know, from like two to five thirty. And then we go to this bar from like, usually like for two hours. We get to the bar and like, my family's like getting a cocktail and like, we're seeing people that like, we haven't seen in a while. And I just get this overwhelming sense

• 25:38Paige DeSorbo?

  that I have to get the fuck out of there.

• 25:43Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, you've been socializing for four hours. That's way past my limit. Your body started rejecting.

• 25:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Being out.

• 25:51Hannah Berner?

  Your existence.

• 25:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know what I think it was? And my mom literally got so mad at me, like, once we got home, she was like, you're so dramatic and like, honestly annoying.

• 26:00Hannah Berner?

  I love when Kim puts you in your place.

• 26:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes when I'm in places or situations that I have been in a hundred times, but did, had very different actions. I like revert back, like, okay, where we go, I've gone to that bar since I was in a senior in high school, like after the track. I've drank at this bar for ten years. So sometimes I feel like when I'm there, I think back to like things I've done there. Get out of here. I gotta get out of here because someone's gonna be like, remember a couple of years ago when you're on the top of the table? Like, I'm like, I can't be here anymore. It's bringing back.

• 26:38Hannah Berner?

  It's too close to your past.

• 26:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's too close.

• 26:42Hannah Berner?

  Stuff that you've like, it's like when you're walking through New York City and you're like, I think I cried on that block.

• 26:47Paige DeSorbo?

  One of my friends was there and he said something to me and I was, I had like a moment where I like went back in time and I was like, I have to go.

• 26:55Hannah Berner?

  But there is also something so powerful to be like, I'm not that girl. Like, I used to be, I'm not her and I can sit here. But yeah, you're also, you see all those people from before, you kind of get afraid you're getting sucked back into like the past.

• 27:09Paige DeSorbo?

  It wasn't even like the bad stuff. It was more like, oh my god, I can't believe I used to drink the amount I used to drink and like party and go out and be out for hours and love it. And now I'm like, if I don't get in the car with AC blasting on me, I'm gonna throw up.

• 27:26Hannah Berner?

  Well, the horse world is its own, its own culture. Like, horse girls are real. But, but, it's crazy. Everyone says horse girls, but then it's only men on the track.

• 27:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:38Hannah Berner?

  Makes that make sense.

• 27:39Paige DeSorbo?

  There's like one woman from Albany that I think is like, a really big horse trainer.

• 27:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but all the men are, like, who are actually like on the horses are literally four eleven. And they had to like

• 27:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, the jockeys.

• 27:51Hannah Berner?

  Find these specific men who are of light stature. I'm like, just find a woman. If you need a five-two.

• 28:00Paige DeSorbo?

  It's interesting that there's not more women, but there's actually, I think, like a couple of years ago, maybe even longer, I might even be going back ten years, there was a documentary on HBO about horse jockeys and they live a really tough life. Like.

• 28:16Hannah Berner?

  No, I bet. There's something weird about it. It's like how women love cooking, but only men are chefs. It's like how women love fashion, but the top fashion designers are men. I'm looking into it, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm crossing my I's, dotting my T's, okay? Wait, I'm pissed off. Can I talk about something?

• 28:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I felt it brewing. I felt like.

• 28:37Hannah Berner?

  I'm jacked up this morning.

• 28:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Put it in the book.

• 28:40Hannah Berner?

  Have you seen the advertisement going around?

• 28:42Paige DeSorbo?

  For Callaway Golf?

• 28:43Hannah Berner?

  It's gonna really upset you. Yeah, I'm actually gonna cry right now.

• 28:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It really upset me. No, nothing upsets me more than physicality like that. If you haven't seen it, they pulled it already, but you can find the video. Callaway Golf did a ad. They had like a bunch of different social media ads. It wasn't like it was like a commercial on TV, but it was basically on a golf course and it was a girl walking up to golf clubs and she was about to take one of the golf clubs out. The guy standing runs up, pushes her to the ground. She falls on the ground.

• 29:27Hannah Berner?

  Don't touch my driver.

• 29:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't touch my driver.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Now, this is the guys from Good Good, which is basically this golf YouTube where like guys watch other guys play golf.

• 29:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a loser.

• 29:40Hannah Berner?

  If your boyfriend or husband follows them or whatever, you have to tell him about this. Cause it's, it's so revolting. Now, the question is, everyone's wondering is, how did it get this far? Me and you have worked with brands before. Sometimes you can't even make a slight little joke and they, they're like, no. So this was approved by lawyers and creatives and heads of departments. So Callaway Good Golf put a guy pushing a girl saying, don't touch my driver.

• 30:15Paige DeSorbo?

  To the ground.

• 30:15Hannah Berner?

  And for anyone who says, for anyone who says it's a joke, for a joke to be funny, it's supposed to be relatable. So you're saying that's relatable, pushing someone and showing physical violence to a woman as, as funny and silly of basically being like, women are expendable objects and that my golf club is more, more valuable than them. That's not fucking funny.

• 30:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, men are so fucking obtuse because I feel like the argument they would say is like, if the roles were reversed and it was a girl pushing a guy down, it's like, right, but we don't kill you. Like you guys are our number one predator. So that's why it's not funny when it's you pushing us down because you guys already do that in everyday life.

• 31:00Hannah Berner?

  If you care about protecting women, especially protecting women in sports, and if you're a man that cares about masculinity and being high value, the strongest thing you could do is protect women.

• 31:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Callaway is like a huge company.

• 31:17Hannah Berner?

  No, and

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, who owns Callaway?

• 31:19Hannah Berner?

  You're like, find the man.

• 31:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Eli Reeves Callaway Jr., 1982.

• 31:26Hannah Berner?

  I think that also the girl in the video is getting hate. Like, well, the girl said she wanted to do it. The girl's involved in it. Sorry, imagine being a girl with a room of, there's 10 men in the video. There's like, and they're like, okay, this is what the video is gonna be. It's gonna be funny. Let's go. You think, you want her to then stand up for herself in front of all these men and be like, I don't think that's funny. I don't think that's cool. We cannot start hate, I'm not about to start hating on this woman right now.

• 31:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What, so she can get fired? Let her at least get her bag.

• 31:55Hannah Berner?

  Let's stay focused on the problem at hand, which is the fact, the bigger overarching picture. I do have to say, I have seen a lot of men speak out and be like, I used to follow Good Good. And like, this is just

• 32:07Paige DeSorbo?

  As soon as we are allowed to make choices on our own bodies, then I'll find it a joke. Like if I could, if I could go to any state and get an abortion, then I would say, cool, that's fine. But since I can't, no.

• 32:20Hannah Berner?

  Also, women in the golf space, if you notice, the biggest influencers in golf who are women have to be like, they're like overly sexualized and on a golf course, like you walk in, it's just good old boys. Like it's, golf is so where men make deals on the course and where men have only men days. And like, it disgusts me so much. And by the way, that's why I like being fucking good at golf, because I like beating these losers.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, like the gigglers don't know that like old men are like obsessive playing golf with you. One time I called Hannah and I said, what are you doing? And she said, oh, I'm on the golf course. Or no, I'm on the tennis court. And I said, with who? And she said, like, two 85-year-old men?

• 33:07Hannah Berner?

  You guys, the work we do in feminism isn't always seen in the public eye, but older, I play older man's sports, tennis and golf. So obviously the people who are playing them is like, men between 50 and 80. And now to play with me, you have to go through my husband. No one has my direct contact. So it goes through Dez and then Dez tells me all the men that want to compete with me throughout the week. This is what I do during the summer. So then I say, who's made the cut? And then once they come, I, I ruin them. No mercy. A lot of them like it. It's like some weird thing.

• 33:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I bet.

• 33:42Hannah Berner?

  And then they go back to their, their homes and some of these men, I think, they start realizing women are people after, after a lesson with me.

• 33:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I need, like, I need the men to like, just like realize that they aren't good athletes and they're not professional ones. And just because they all play golf together, doesn't mean they're making business deals.

• 34:06Hannah Berner?

  Also, how is masculinity, you being like, I want to hang out with my boys and play golf for six hours and I don't want a woman near me. And if she tries to touch my stuff, I'm gonna push her. Like, it's not funny.

• 34:18Paige DeSorbo?

  There was like some guy who made a, like a video at Barstool and he was like, I'd rather like sit here and watch the game with you than like go have sex with my girlfriend. Like if that brings you and your boys closer together, have at it. But like we, okay, you freak.

• 34:35Hannah Berner?

  I just can't with

• 34:37Paige DeSorbo?

  We're really hating men this episode.

• 34:39Hannah Berner?

  I had to speak up on this because you know, the sports stuff pisses me off. Like the men treating women like they're these athletes and women don't belong in their space. Like Giggly Squad is about us being able to take up space anywhere we want. And I also want, there's like this fucking divide between men and women that we have to like conquer because it's getting, it's getting scary.

• 35:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I can't even go on TikTok. Like TikTok has like not been fun for like the past month. I'm like, okay.

• 35:11Hannah Berner?

  It's just think pieces of people trying to like take people down for no reason or like think pieces about really scary actual things that are going on in the world.

• 35:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and for Callaway to put out a domestic violence commercial in the year 2026 is,

• 35:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I just think one of the craziest things. But honestly, you know what's gonna happen? Nothing.

• 35:35Hannah Berner?

  Nothing.

• 35:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Like nothing. If that was, if that was a female-owned brand and they did something that was like so, they'd be done. They'd be done.

• 35:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. And there's one thing where sometimes people do try to be funny and then you take something out of context or like, you're like, oh, at their heart, they were trying to be funny and they just missed. This is not that.

• 35:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're a golf brand. No one expects you to be funny. If anything, we know everyone that works at your company is not funny. Like, you've actually just proved to us that you're extra not funny. Also, like stick with golf. Why do you think you could make like funny skits on the internet? Support for today's episode comes from Square, the system powering like half the places I go. Giggly Squad is a full business, believe it or not. Between podcasts, merch, touring, everything, it's a lot of moving parts. And Square helps business owners focus on the fun parts, which is what me and Hannah like to do. And not just Giggly Squad. Have you ever walked into a place and you're like, oh, this business seems really put together?

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 37:24Paige DeSorbo?

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• 38:17Hannah Berner?

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• 39:00Hannah Berner?

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• 39:26Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm obsessed with Stars and Honey. They basically looked at protein bars and said, "Hmm, why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat?" Each bar has 15 grams of protein and only 4 grams of sugar, but the flavors are giving dessert, honey. Iced lemon cookie, mint chocolate chip, red velvet peanut butter mousse? Hello? Who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse?

• 39:50Hannah Berner?

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• 40:04Paige DeSorbo?

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• 40:48Paige DeSorbo?

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• 42:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 42:58Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of women in sports, I have to make a confession. I played Scrabble last week. When was the last time you played Scrabble?

• 43:06Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, was never a huge fan of it. I'm sure that doesn't come as a shock. But I thought, this game is stupid and for nerds. I don't over 15 years.

• 43:22Hannah Berner?

  Did you know that like my nan is really good at Scrabble? Like she would have these Scrabble games and she would like call me after and be like, "I won by 50 points, like scrub the floor with these bitches." Like, and she was good. She's doing the two-letter words, like she gets, like she's not fun to play with, because you're like, "Okay, well, you're playing a different game than I am."

• 43:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 43:41Hannah Berner?

  So I buy Scrabble because I'm bored this summer. And I was like, Dez, let's play Scrabble. And he was like, "No." And then Jeannie was around, so I was like, "Jeannie, do you want to play Scrabble?" And she's like, "Sure." I'm like, "How fun and cute." She kicked my ass. Like she was like, well, there was, but there was drama with it.

• 44:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, she's a nurse.

• 44:05Hannah Berner?

  She's a nurse, she's very, very smart.

• 44:06Paige DeSorbo?

  She has a whole other vernacular that you don't even know about, you know?

• 44:09Hannah Berner?

  No, I know. At one point, I swear to God, this is supposed to be our like sweet little game at night after a long day, decompressing. She puts a tile down, she goes, "It's like taking candy from a baby." She said it out loud. And I'm like, "What the fuck is going on?"

• 44:27Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, "Daniel, watch the kids, it's gonna be a long night for Hannah."

• 44:31Hannah Berner?

  It's supposed to be a bloodbath. But then there was drama, because Dez comes out, even though he didn't want to play. He was like seeing what was going on. And he was, she was pulling out the dictionary before she'd go to like look for words. And he said, "That's a no-no." So then there was drama, because we were like, people, it's like when, this is not relatable, but like when you play basketball, no, when you play beer pong, like people have different rules depending on the state and depending on the college. So we didn't discuss before the Scrabble what the rules were, because I didn't know it was gonna get something competitive.

• 45:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right.

• 45:09Hannah Berner?

  So some people out here say, "If you have to grab the dictionary and you're wrong with the word that you're looking for, that counts as a turn."

• 45:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, they're cutthroat in the Hamptons.

• 45:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they're cutthroat. And we weren't playing cutthroat, so I was letting her go through the dictionary. We're having fun, next thing you know, I'm down by 50 points. And then I was like,

• 45:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You've tricked me.

• 45:29Hannah Berner?

  You tricked me. And I, at one point, I was like, "This isn't fun anymore, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to sleep."

• 45:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, Kitty's rolling around the bed and like knocking everything over. Please, Kitty. Um, that's how I feel about Rummy Cub. Like there's like the 30,

• 45:44Hannah Berner?

  I've never played.

• 45:46Paige DeSorbo?

  We have to play.

• 45:47Hannah Berner?

  I think we need to have a weekly mahjong, but mahjong, I fear, is too long for our attention span, so maybe it's a, is it Rummy or Rummy Cube?

• 45:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I say Rummy Cub, but other people say Rummy Cube, but I'm like, there's no E in it.

• 46:00Hannah Berner?

  They're saying Rummy or Rummy.

• 46:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I say Rummy.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  Got it.

• 46:02Paige DeSorbo?

  R-U-M-M-I.

• 46:04Hannah Berner?

  Got it.

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  So I went to the track this weekend and then I did nothing. The rest of the weekend.

• 46:12Hannah Berner?

  Do you have an opinion on how you should put your significant other's name in their phone? Because I've been getting some backlash, because my husband's name is Dez Bishop, full government name in my phone.

• 46:23Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I do full government names. There might be a day where we don't know them. Okay? And I'm not taking the extra time to go in and change their name in my phone to, from my sweetie to something else, no.

• 46:38Hannah Berner?

  My name in his phone is, um, Burn With A Heart, which I think I put in early on.

• 46:44Paige DeSorbo?

  That's cute.

• 46:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 46:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I have like random weird superstitions, of course, because I'm a freak. And one of mine is if I change your name in my phone from your first and last name to something, or I add a heart, done, relationship's over. In high school, if I baked you cupcakes, my mom would say it was the kiss of death. Because it'd be done, like the next week, something would happen and it'd be done.

• 47:13Hannah Berner?

  Wait, how would you present the cupcakes to him?

• 47:16Paige DeSorbo?

  It had nothing to do with the cupcakes. It was just like, it seemed to be that like there'd be a time where I'd start liking a boy or a guy in high school, it was a boy, and I would bake cupcakes and then like I did it in college. And then one time, even in my twenties, I remember I was baking like a cake or cupcakes for someone. I was maybe like 22. And I told my mom and she goes, "Oh, so you'll be broken up by next week." And we were,

• 47:42Hannah Berner?

  Kim is so savage. Kim is so savage. Wait, so like when he's coming over, you're like, "I made cupcakes, sorry, I'm still not sure."

• 47:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, no, like,

• 47:51Hannah Berner?

  You don't just make one cupcake, you make like 40 cupcakes.

• 47:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, yeah, yeah, yeah, you make like 12, like a bachelor 12.

• 47:56Hannah Berner?

  Do you decorate them?

• 47:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I decorated them. The last time this happened to me, I baked a cake. I was probably like, I don't know, like 24. I was seeing this guy for like, I don't know, we'd like randomly hang out, see each other. It was nothing serious. He was really like a situationship for like seven years, truly, is what he was. Honestly?

• 48:19Hannah Berner?

  That's not for the week.

• 48:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not, it's so not for the week.

• 48:22Hannah Berner?

  You're so fucking strong.

• 48:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I was so strong through that. I baked him a cake and a meat, and then I didn't talk to him for three years.

• 48:29Hannah Berner?

  Is, do you think it has to do with your baking skills?

• 48:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I don't think it has to do with my baking at all. I think there's something in the universe that when I get to bake,

• 48:42Paige DeSorbo?

  They go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we've thrown something off? We have to get her back on track. So I don't, I, I don't bake for anything. Cause they might wind up dead. I don't do it.

• 48:53Hannah Berner?

  I baked scones once, which is crazy. Cause I'm like, let's pick the hardest thing to bake.

• 48:58Paige DeSorbo?

  That's like so hard, I feel like.

• 49:00Hannah Berner?

  No, I know, but that's because I'm fucking delusional and crazy. It's like, I was trying to paint a painting for this, for my cat cafe. Um, cause we wanted to auction it off and I was like, yeah, I'll paint some painting. Turns out, don't understand the difference between oil, acrylic, it's way more complicated than that.

• 49:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew that, I knew that some of them was gonna get fucked up there.

• 49:19Hannah Berner?

  It got real, and then I like tried something, it wasn't working. I started, I quit, I got all frustrated. I almost flipped the table and then I ended up just doing Hannah's Cat Cafe in font. And I was like, let's call it a day. But I do think my delusion, um, is overall a good thing, but I do find myself in situations where I'm like, we didn't need to do a Da Vinci.

• 49:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I overshot this one. Oop, this is a quick one. Didn't think about this long enough. Actually, my brother, who is a phenomenal baker, this weekend I requested, I requested the steak cake of Maryland.

• 49:52Hannah Berner?

  Obsessed with you.

• 49:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which, if you don't know what the steak cake of Maryland is, I didn't know either until a couple nights ago on TikTok. It is between eight to 12 layers of vanilla cake with chocolate frosting. I sent it to my brother. I said, I need.

• 50:07Hannah Berner?

  See, I love vanilla cake.

• 50:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Eight to 12 layers of a vanilla cake with chocolate frosting. It was.

• 50:13Hannah Berner?

  How long did that take him?

• 50:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know how long it took him.

• 50:17Hannah Berner?

  He was baking for days.

• 50:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, oh, do you just bake it and then cut it? And he goes, no, Paige, I had to buy five different pans.

• 50:25Hannah Berner?

  The man lost his job in the meantime.

• 50:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It has to be really thin. It was so good.

• 50:33Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can he be on like Great British Bake Off?

• 50:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, my brother is one of the best bakers.

• 50:39Hannah Berner?

  He'd be perfect for one of those shows, at least like a Food Network show. If you're a producer listening, put Gary on.

• 50:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he would also be so funny. He's so good at baking. He is really good at cooking too. He has like random specialties that he's really good at, like, um, like anything buffalo chicken. I feel like he's really good at. Um, but he's made some of like the most insane things for me. Like, like sometimes I'll just be like, I'm craving like pistachio, but like chocolate cake. And he'll be like, okay. And like one night he made me a chocolate lava cake, but it was like pistachio butter came out of it.

• 51:15Hannah Berner?

  No, he needs to do one of those shows. I'll text Bobby Flay.

• 51:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, imagine.

• 51:22Hannah Berner?

  Um, also I wanted to let you know, like, I'm becoming so page coded and girly.

• 51:28Paige DeSorbo?

  What are you doing?

• 51:30Hannah Berner?

  Dez was talking to his brother, his brother needs to get a new car. And they were like looking at cars and they were like showing the options. And I was like, why are car colors so fucking boring? Like, we don't have one baby blue.

• 51:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 51:45Hannah Berner?

  Like, these are the biggest car companies in the world and all they have is like black, silver, or like light silver and white. And I'm like, no one threw in a coral?

• 51:57Paige DeSorbo?

  What's your go-to car color in your head? Like, you're like, I have to get a car tomorrow. What are you getting? Black or white?

• 52:02Hannah Berner?

  Well, see, I like, oh, see, I like ugly. Like, I want brown, which is why I'm handicoded. Or like a like, a like tanish, tan, like something off. But this thing, why don't they have fun colors for cars? Whatever happened to a pattern? Like, no one has whimsy in the car industry.

• 52:22Paige DeSorbo?

  No one has whimsy. No one has whimsy in the car industry. It's like, it's also, you want to know what? It's kind of like a little bit elitist because like, oh, only a Lamborghini can be orange.

• 52:32Hannah Berner?

  Oh, interesting. Cause also I'm like, every fall, we get new colors for the fall. And I'm like, we change our nails, we change our.

• 52:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm loving baby blue and brown right now. Like, could I get a pinstripe Range Rover?

• 52:47Hannah Berner?

  A hundred, yeah, whatever happened to a little like?

• 52:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you can get them wrapped. Here's one thing. My dad is very into cars. And Joe is very into cars, so I know a lot about wrapping cars.

• 53:01Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 53:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Against my will.

• 53:02Hannah Berner?

  Um, who's, who's the pimp my ride guy?

• 53:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving exhibit.

• 53:09Hannah Berner?

  Bring back exhibit, who by the way loves cats. He's all over my feed with his cat.

• 53:13Paige DeSorbo?

  He's had a cat, he's had the same cat for like 20 years.

• 53:15Hannah Berner?

  I also have, um, I do need some advice.

• 53:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 53:20Hannah Berner?

  Um, so for the US Open, we're going to the US Open. We're gonna be there on the night of the 31st. See y'all there. Oh my God, Kitty's so.

• 53:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I'm obsessed with Kitty recently.

• 53:29Hannah Berner?

  Flimsy and cute right now and cuddly. Um, I got asked to do a podcast. And it's Maria Sharapova's podcast.

• 53:40Paige DeSorbo?

  At the US Open? Like, do you do it there?

• 53:42Hannah Berner?

  It's, we're doing a live pod. People can get tickets on.

• 53:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Where?

• 53:48Hannah Berner?

  Sunday at a hotel.

• 53:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay.

• 53:51Hannah Berner?

  In the city.

• 53:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay, okay. Sorry, I don't know why I pictured you like at,

• 53:59Paige DeSorbo?

  in the stands doing.

• 54:00Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I know, actually that'd be cute. But this is my question, you guys. If you don't remember, when I went to the Chelsea Handler show, she had this like after-party and it ended up being like a ton of people. She has so many friends. And Maria Sharapova was standing there and I started freaking out and all my friends were like, say hi to her. And I'm like, this isn't how we're supposed to meet. This isn't how, not like in a crowded, loud room and me being like, hi, mom. Like, I'm like, this is not how we're supposed to meet. So now I'm gonna meet her. And I just want advice on like, how did you act when you met Victoria Beckham?

• 54:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually was just gonna, there's two people that I was like, what the fuck am I gonna say? One was Victoria Beckham and one was Kourtney Kardashian. And you want to know what? I just went in with the, what came to my brain in that moment and it was.

• 54:45Hannah Berner?

  Which is scary.

• 54:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's scary, but you want to know what? It's kidding. It's the most genuine. And I think to Kourtney, I was like, oh my God. Like, I'm a huge fan of you. I've always loved you. Like, you guys are the, like, I'm obsessed with you guys. Like, there's nothing to say other than like, hello. I, this is crazy for me.

• 55:05Hannah Berner?

  Also, if they like you, they like you. If they don't, they don't. And you can't control that in this life.

• 55:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I think one of the weirdest things is acting like you're not a fan of.

• 55:16Hannah Berner?

  No, I would never do that.

• 55:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone. I like to say that first.

• 55:20Hannah Berner?

  I don't want to drool on them in the beginning and like be like so, like I don't want to scare them where they feel like I literally am gonna wear their skin. But I like to give credit where credit is due.

• 55:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I would just be like, oh my God, it's such an honor to meet you.

• 55:36Hannah Berner?

  With, with Serena Williams, they were both like the fashion icons of my childhood. Like Maria Sharapova's outfits, I mean, she's 6'2", she looks like a model, so it was like easy for her. But she was designing with Nike, the like most cute princess iconic looks. Amazing torso. That's, oh, I could connect with her over that. I'm trying to find connections.

• 56:00Hannah Berner?

  But I'm just, I'm just letting you guys know, I'm gonna be so fucking nervous the whole time. And everything I, I say in my head, I'm gonna be like, that was stupid. So come to the event.

• 56:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's gonna be fun and cute. Where's Anna Kournikova?

• 56:15Hannah Berner?

  She's living a peaceful life with her husband Enrique Iglesias.

• 56:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:21Hannah Berner?

  And like never papped, never anything.

• 56:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't that so funny? Like certain celebrities that you're like, I haven't seen them in 10 years.

• 56:32Hannah Berner?

  It means that they're at peace, I think. When I was younger, I'd always wonder like, why would this pop star stop making music? Or why did this actor, why aren't they acting? And now I'm like, oh, they made money. And they're like, I'm good, babe. This is a job and I want a break.

• 56:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, who's the one rapper that I used to think about that all the time? Um.

• 56:53Hannah Berner?

  Lil Wayne?

• 56:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they, no, T-Pain. Like, for a while, I'd be like, where the fuck is T-Pain? And then I'd be like.

• 56:59Hannah Berner?

  But now this man is ready. It's kind of like Anne Hathaway. How many movies has Anne Hathaway shot?

• 57:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's actually making me really sad that she's doing so many movies because I know we're not gonna see her now for 25 years.

• 57:12Hannah Berner?

  I watched the beginning of Mother Mary last night. Well, I was gonna text you because it's about a pop star and her former costume designer, stylist, who like helped create her career and she goes back to them to like make a dress for her. And I was like, this is about fashion, Paige is gonna love it. But then there's some singing involved and then I was like, I'm gonna think twice before I text Paige about this.

• 57:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And is it scary movie?

• 57:40Hannah Berner?

  It's not scary, but I was like 45 minutes in and I, I was like, ah, it's not really going anywhere.

• 57:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what I did hear recently is that Julie Andrews isn't in the next Princess, they're making another Princess Diaries movie.

• 57:53Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 57:54Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's like declined. She's also like.

• 57:56Hannah Berner?

  But this thing, I get it.

• 57:58Paige DeSorbo?

  But I feel like Anne Hathaway making so many movies right now that are premiering. And now she's obviously pregnant, she's gonna have a baby. I really feel like we're not gonna see her for a really long time. And it's like, it's making me sad because I'm like, no, we just got her back. And now she's gonna be gone.

• 58:17Hannah Berner?

  Is this her first baby?

• 58:19Paige DeSorbo?

  This is her third.

• 58:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, autumn in New York is the season where we can finally start dressing again. Every single thing is an excuse to put on a look. Going to work, outfit. Leading a meeting, outfit. Getting drinks with your friends, obviously outfit. And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with alleys from Sam Edelman. They're ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too.

• 59:06Paige DeSorbo?

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• 59:49Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:00:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:02:10Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me is with the new season, I like to have a new personality. You never have to stick to one personality and people don't talk about it enough.

• 1:02:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel. And it's obviously like getting a little cooler out and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 1:02:31Hannah Berner?

  And part of rebranding is getting new clothes. And that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before. Whether it's denim, such as an angled barrel jean. I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more.

• 1:02:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 1:02:53Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 1:02:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 1:03:08Hannah Berner?

  And then people forget that on Revolve, there's also beauty. They have menswear, they have home and they have Forward Renew, which is pre-owned luxury handbags. And you know how much we love vintage.

• 1:03:20Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:03:44Hannah Berner?

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• 1:04:10Paige DeSorbo?

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• 1:04:51Hannah Berner?

  No, I've heard of it, but I don't, I couldn't place it.

• 1:04:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I actually feel like I'm like, okay, it's time for me to like get married and have a baby. Because the things are going right over my head on the internet. Like, I saw this video and it was like talking about Chanty Beluga and it was someone being like, oh my God, it's such like millennial cringe, but it's for Gen Z. I have no idea what it is. It's basically just like a girl who like created like a crazy name and she just like does different skits as this person.

• 1:05:24Hannah Berner?

  You know, you're getting older when you see something that's trending and you decide, don't care, not gonna look into it, don't wanna know, don't wanna know.

• 1:05:34Paige DeSorbo?

  That's, I wish I felt that way about clavicular, but I can't.

• 1:05:38Hannah Berner?

  Final notes on stuff we're watching. I watched Furious and I have to apologize to the community. I did not know this was about human trafficking and abuse. I love, I was like, don't like the script.

• 1:05:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's literally about domestic violence.

• 1:05:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, this is super, super important. Do I think there's moments that I was like, this is kind of like, the plot was kind of frustrating or like weird, yes? But sometimes these shows, they're like, you know how they keep you going? And then the ending just like isn't.

• 1:06:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, who you think the villain is ultimately, you're like, well.

• 1:06:16Hannah Berner?

  What I loved about this is the ending. Is it done or are there more episodes coming out?

• 1:06:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think there's one more.

• 1:06:24Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so I like love where it's going. I hate these, these mystery type detective stuff where then at the end, they just like say the most random shit. They're like, it's the guy we never met from the store. And you're like, this is what I've been fucking wasting 24 hours on? So I really like where it's going. I also, also why isn't the star girl not like popping off more?

• 1:06:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Emmy Rossum?

• 1:06:49Hannah Berner?

  No, the other one who plays the serial killer.

• 1:06:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:06:53Hannah Berner?

  It's so funny because like, I feel like maybe because she's depicted as like crazy, like people aren't like.

• 1:07:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, look at the obsession girl.

• 1:07:02Hannah Berner?

  No, look at the Sterling Point girl. I'm like, why isn't the serial killer girl getting the same love?

• 1:07:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep, that's so true.

• 1:07:08Hannah Berner?

  I did start Sterling Point and I didn't get through the first episode, but I kind of like wasn't, I didn't know where it was going. I was like, where is it going? I get it, she's on an island.

• 1:07:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? It's not a show for you.

• 1:07:19Hannah Berner?

  I also, I don't care about 17 year old drama.

• 1:07:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I know you don't.

• 1:07:23Hannah Berner?

  The second she's like, I'm 17, which she's 25. I was like, uh, but I, I did like her chemistry with the brother who is a nepo baby.

• 1:07:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, Mark Ruffalo.

• 1:07:33Hannah Berner?

  Mark Ruffalo.

• 1:07:34Paige DeSorbo?

  He's the hole.

• 1:07:35Hannah Berner?

  I do appreciate a nepo baby who you're like, oh, they used their genetic talents well.

• 1:07:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing for nepo babies, like, I don't get it. Do you know how many people I know, just like growing up where it's like, oh, their dad's a doctor? And it's like, oh yeah, so then like they became a doctor. Like, oh yeah, like, but like with, and when it comes to like acting or celebrity, it's like, oh my God, are you kidding? It's like, okay.

• 1:08:04Hannah Berner?

  The problem is that they'll be like, you just have to work hard and believe in yourself and you can be a star. And people are like, okay.

• 1:08:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Like the actual nepo baby.

• 1:08:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like it's how they don't like to admit that like, the only reason you got an audition was because your mom is a superstar.

• 1:08:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, which I would say that all day long. I'd be like, sucks that you don't have my mom.

• 1:08:30Hannah Berner?

  But it's not their fault they have their mom. It's their fault when they're like, if I worked really hard to get in this. Or they complain like, it was really hard for me because this is my mom. And it's like, but they don't know anything else. Like they don't know what life is like where like no one gives a fuck.

• 1:08:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I think Matthew McConaughey said his son auditioned for something and they, and he didn't use McConaughey, like the name, last name.

• 1:08:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because he wants to try to like be not known just as his son, but like the directors know.

• 1:08:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you wanna know something that really pisses me off?

• 1:09:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:03Paige DeSorbo?

  When you have a leg up in the world and you're like, I shan't use it, no.

• 1:09:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Just fucking use it. Like, it makes me feel like when there's like kids that are like the, like, the children of, like, million and billionaires, it's like,

• 1:09:18Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Start a charity. Like, literally do anything.

• 1:09:23Hannah Berner?

  But I do think of, like, the trauma of, like, and trauma's a strong word to use, but, like, your whole life, all people talk about, let's say, is your mom. So, like, you have trouble finding your own identity because your mom is so famous, and I guess they get, like, anger or hatred, and they could turn to drugs, and it's just like a whole, it's an issue we could never imagine. But, like, I mean, my mom was the principal, principal of the top public middle school in Brooklyn, and I felt like she was a celebrity. Everyone knew who she was when we walked in any room, and I loved it. I was like, yeah, that's my mom.

• 1:09:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And I would love that.

• 1:09:58Hannah Berner?

  It's complicated with parents.

• 1:10:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that's a good note to end on.

• 1:10:04Hannah Berner?

  But in sports, for example, like, I watch, like, Coco Goff, and I'm like, she's fucking amazing. Her mom was an incredible athlete, too.

• 1:10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. And that's just genetics. It's in you. So I feel like if someone's, like, really creative or really mathematical, it makes sense that their offspring would maybe have some of those traits. Like, I don't get why people get so mad at humans for wanting to do this, a similar thing that their parents did.

• 1:10:33Hannah Berner?

  And our mental health moment of the week is something I saw online, and I agree with, is you will always come back to the joys and passions you had as a child. Whatever you liked to do as a kid is what you're meant to do.

• 1:10:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Pushing men into the dirt.

• 1:10:55Hannah Berner?

  And see.

• 1:10:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that.

• 1:10:58Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for giggling with us. We love you so much. Have an amazing, amazing week. We'll talk to you later. Bye.

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