Giggling about cigars, cabaret, and compression socks

Paige had her best celebrity sighting yet and Hannah willingly went out on a Saturday night. Thanks to Waymo for supporting this episode! #WaymoPartner shop merch

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Hannah Berner?

  Sweater season is in full effect and Abercrombie is setting a new standard. Thanks to the quality fabrics like 100% cashmere wool blends and other natural fibers, I'm using this drop as permission to curate my entire fall wardrobe around sweaters, especially the World Net Cruise sweater. It's a classic silhouette that I can easily throw on and go or dress up for nights in the city. Outfit accordingly this season with Abercrombie. Shop in the app, online and in stores. I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 0:36Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're, you're calling the FBI.

• 0:44Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 0:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:01Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:14Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts. You ignore it all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:39Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 1:44Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt for real.

• 1:49Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 1:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:01Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:05Hannah Berner?

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• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:23Paige DeSorbo?

  This episode is sponsored by the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel and Afegato. Lately, I've been realizing that luxury doesn't have to mean some huge splurge. Sometimes it's just taking a few minutes to yourself during a busy day. I have one of these moments, oh, I don't know, every day around 2 o'clock. Whether that's making a pick-me-up coffee or maybe I just need to scroll for a little bit on the couch. That's why I'm actually so excited about the new Hershey's Salted Caramel and Afegato Creme Bars available now. I absolutely love a treat-yourself moment in the middle of the day and this is a classic Hershey's Milk Chocolate layered with a Salted Caramel or Afegato Creme filling.

• 3:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate. Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afegato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite.

• 3:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my giggly-saurus Rexes. Let me just say, I was like, Paige, can we get the party started? I need to complain about something. And she goes, "I have to complain about you." With her long ass finger, she goes, "You." So, now I'm scared, alone. No one's on my side. What did I do? What did I do besides pull out my own back?

• 3:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm going to tell you exactly what you did. On the pod last week, you said, "Oh, do you ever dream about exes?" And I was like, "I haven't dreamt about an ex in 10 to 15 years." Like, it's just not something that happens to me. I woke up this morning cursing. I laid in bed, I go, "That fucking bitch." Not only did I dream about the worst ex I've ever had in my life, he came up to me with a knife and said, "If you don't..."

• 4:22Hannah Berner?

  "If you don't kiss me?"

• 4:23Paige DeSorbo?

  "If you don't stop, I'll kill you."

• 4:25Hannah Berner?

  Oh, stop what?

• 4:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Who don't? We don't know.

• 4:30Hannah Berner?

  Hopefully, it's not one of those dreams that's like a Marvel movie where there's a new one every night and it like continues the plot. Maybe we'll see what happens.

• 4:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you want to know what's crazy is the only way, the only reason I got out of the dream was something in real life woke me up.

• 4:46Hannah Berner?

  Kitty saved you.

• 4:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a sound like woke me up and I was like, "Oh, my God, I was just having the weirdest dream." And then I didn't go back into it. Thank God.

• 4:55Hannah Berner?

  Why do I feel like it's worse when you dream good things about them? Like, you're like, "Oh, my God, he was so perfect." And then you have to like spend all day remembering all the worst memories and then you're like, "I could have done without that."

• 5:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I definitely went throughout my day today. Like, yeah, he is a sociopath.

• 5:12Paige DeSorbo?

  In every realm, he's fucking crazy.

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  In every realm, he's ruining my life. Also, I do look like Angelina Jolie's cousin who like is just not, should not, wants to be a spy, but like can't, because she just like can't get her stuff together, but she keeps trying out.

• 5:29Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's crazy is I didn't even notice you were wearing sunglasses.

• 5:33Hannah Berner?

  Because you see me as pure energy.

• 5:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm just like, that is the, that's whatever her journey is today.

• 5:39Hannah Berner?

  You see me by my aura colors. You don't, you don't process actual things you see. Um, I'm not in a good mood.

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  Am I PMSing? Yes, but that's not it. That's not the reason. What was the reason? The reason was, look, as you guys know, I pulled out my back, but like somehow it's getting worse, like...

• 6:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Did people know that? Did you say that last?

• 6:02Hannah Berner?

  Well, I made fun of these old men playing tennis with me and then I pulled my back playing tennis with old men. And I do have an L4, L5.

• 6:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Situation.

• 6:11Hannah Berner?

  I'm also in situation, a little bulged disc, if any of the Gigglers are chiropractors. And it was bad and I got a, I got a massage yesterday and it was going well. And then the lady like pushed my knee towards my chest, like as a stretch, and I saw God.

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:31Hannah Berner?

  But like, or Satan, one of the two.

• 6:35Hannah Berner?

  And then I, they left and I told Dez, I'm like, "I can't find a position that I'm not like shooting pain."

• 6:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, it like, the massage like fucked you up more?

• 6:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 6:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, like she pinched a nerve?

• 6:47Hannah Berner?

  She pinched the nerve like more and then I drugged myself.

• 6:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:52Hannah Berner?

  And I was, I slept all yesterday. It was so peaceful. Like, I highly recommend it. And then this morning, I got a chiropractor appointment. Made Dez walk half an hour with me to the chiropractor, because I'm not going to a doctor's appointment alone. That's so scary. We walked.

• 7:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so you're not fat injured?

• 7:07Hannah Berner?

  Walking's good for your back, but I, no, I was like limping. Yeah, hobbling. But like, I like, like the drama. So, like, I'd let him get like really far ahead of me and be like, "Babe, wait, I'm coming."

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, because he always has a physical ailment and you're probably used to that. So, now you're like roles reversed.

• 7:24Hannah Berner?

  Roles reversed.

• 7:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  We get there, place is closed.

• 7:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  Because it is Labor Day. And I'm like, then why did they let me book an appointment? He's like, "Who did you talk to on the phone?" I go, "I don't talk to people on phones." I booked it online. I booked it online. I clicked "appointment" on this day. They shouldn't have let me fucking click it. So, then I didn't get a chiropractor. I'm still in pain and I'm alone and scared.

• 7:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's why you were like, "I'm ready to record the pod." So, you never even went to your appointment? Well, you went and did, but you didn't have it.

• 7:59Hannah Berner?

  Also, then I'm realizing if I want to see like a real doctor, you don't just go see a real doctor. You have to go to another doctor to get referred to a real doctor, which seems like a fucking pyramid scheme to me. And have you ever tried to log into one of these doctor sites?

• 8:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It's...

• 8:13Hannah Berner?

  They're, they're made up.

• 8:14Paige DeSorbo?

  They're, it's insane. Like, if someone approaches me and says the word "portal," shut...

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  No, everyone's like, "Do you have the portal? Have you downloaded the portal?"

• 8:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, "Shut your bitch ass up." Whenever I hear "portal," I'm like, "I'll kill you."

• 8:29Hannah Berner?

  Why are all the portals so different? None of them work.

• 8:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Can't we just have a universal portal that is for medical reasons? Like, you know when you applied to college and like, I think it was like when we got to college or when we got into high school, it was like one app. Remember, it was called like the Common App? And it, and it was like the same way you applied and like multiple schools would like take that application? Like, come on, just make it normal.

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  Because the biggest issue is you have to come up with a new username and password for all these sites and they all have different extents of like what kind of password. One password said 14 letters. I said 14 letters. No word is 14 letters. What are you talking about 14 letters? And then I'm not, I'm past the point. I just, no, I'm so upset. And then Dez was like, "Okay, well, if it's, is it an online chiropractor appointment today?" And I'm like, "Let me check the portal." And then it's like, "Can you log into the portal?" And I'm like, "No, can't log in, so we'll never know."

• 9:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And then it's like, can't remember your password, so you make a new password and then they're like, "Can't be the old password."

• 9:31Hannah Berner?

  So, I have like 400 passwords in 400 portals and my back still hurts. Actually, this has added to my back pain.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  The only thing I know about back pain, because during COVID, Gary threw his back out like so bad. He was like bedridden. He almost like went crazy.

• 9:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 9:48Paige DeSorbo?

  And the number one thing that he did that he thinks fucked him up even more was like putting heat on it. Like, that you should really be putting cold, not heat.

• 9:59Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that's good to know.

• 10:01Paige DeSorbo?

  That like a hot pack will make it more inflamed where colds will like shrink it.

• 10:07Hannah Berner?

  I was talking to Dez about our friendship and I was like...

• 10:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Mine and yours or yours and Dez's?

• 10:11Hannah Berner?

  Good question.

• 10:15Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, let's talk about us. Am I your best friend? Am I your best friend? No, but we were talking about Giggly Squad and I was like Paige, because sometimes he likes checking in with like where your head's at with stuff.

• 10:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh no, it's a slippery slope.

• 10:26Hannah Berner?

  I know, and I go Paige is doing well. And I'm like, you know, she wants to do Giggly Squad like forever.

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  And he was like, really? I'm like, no, no, she jokes all the time about like,

• 10:35Paige DeSorbo?

  But what,

• 10:36Hannah Berner?

  what else are we gonna do?

• 10:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Who would I talk to about stuff going on in my life?

• 10:40Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, we're literally gonna be like, welcome to Giggly Squad, this episode sponsored by AARP.

• 10:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:46Hannah Berner?

  We're so excited to have you. And I'm like, she has a new line of dentures coming out. Like, we've planned, we have the future set. Like, don't worry about us.

• 10:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think we give ourselves enough credit that like through different phases in our lives. And granted, we've only had this podcast for five, six years. So like six years, I feel like there's not that much different.

• 11:07Hannah Berner?

  You'd be surprised.

• 11:09Paige DeSorbo?

  But I feel like we do talk about things. Like, a perfect example is nipple hair. Who's out here talking about real stuff?

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  Are you saying we're changing the game?

• 11:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm just saying like the day that we become mothers or like mothers of teenagers or like business women that do so, like, the girls will relate. We're growing together.

• 11:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we need to continue speaking our truth through all the stages. Dez told me something crazy and I'm sorry for bringing him up twice this episode so far, but he said something crazy to me because he told me he was like, your grays are showing. And I'm like, you don't have to tell me that. Like, I know. I just like, I don't look at them. So you don't have to point him out. Anyway. And he was like, I can't wait for you to be like all gray. But he didn't mean it in like a romantic way. He meant it like stylish way. Like, he was like, it's gonna look good when you're like all gray. And I was like, Paige would never.

• 12:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm really upset by that.

• 12:14Hannah Berner?

  No way. No, but he gets to me. Like, he knows I wanna, because I was like, I don't care. Like, I'll fucking grow out my grays. I don't give a fuck. And he's like, I know you're gonna look so good gray.

• 12:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, no, I'm not allowing it. Okay, well, I'm glad you.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  Is he the Ray Gun husband?

• 12:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm glad you two had that romantic moment. Get it the fuck out of both of your heads. It's not happening. Have you, like, okay, Reba McEntire, redhead until older. You're going to be an older lady who is a redhead. You're Lucille Ball. Like, enough. You're not going gray.

• 12:47Hannah Berner?

  Well, now I need to because you don't want me to.

• 12:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You know who I saw on a plane recently who is actually fully gray and she does look good? When I was leaving Italy, a giggler came up to me and we were like chatting and she was like, don't look now, but Jane Fonda's over there.

• 13:02Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I would have puked. Oh.

• 13:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally, I don't, and I've seen multiple celebrities in airports and on planes. I don't think I whipped out my phone faster than to text my mom like, Jane Fonda's on my plane. Listen to this. We get on the plane, we sit down, Josephine texts me, guess who I'm sitting next to? I go, if you say Jane Fonda, I'm gonna freak out. She goes, Jane Fonda.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  Josephine doesn't deserve that. I'm sorry, Josephine doesn't deserve, she doesn't even know, she doesn't even, like, she, no.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You ready for this?

• 13:33Hannah Berner?

  She's 12 years old.

• 13:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Josephine texts her, who did she text? She texted like her boyfriend who's like aunt is friends with Jane Fonda.

• 13:45Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I take back what I said.

• 13:48Paige DeSorbo?

  The aunt texts Jane Fonda and goes, you're sitting next to like my nephew's girlfriend, Josephine. Jane Fonda turns to Josephine and goes, are you Josephine? And she goes, yes, I am.

• 14:00Hannah Berner?

  Is a fan of Josephine. This is huge.

• 14:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Jane Fonda is a, which honestly, when you meet Josephine, you can't not be a fan of Josephine.

• 14:08Hannah Berner?

  She's like, I love your work. Your photos that you take of Paige in Venice were iconic.

• 14:12Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like, you're so pretty and so lovely. And then, and then Jane Fonda watched the movies that Josephine was playing on her, uh, TV, the whole flight home.

• 14:22Hannah Berner?

  Is Jane Fonda a giggler?

• 14:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they didn't get that far.

• 14:27Hannah Berner?

  Wait, Jane Fonda, if you watch her documentary, like, not only she's an actor, but then she also like created the best like workout series ever, right?

• 14:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she's like a big activist.

• 14:37Hannah Berner?

  Really philanthrop-

• 14:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Philanthropic.

• 14:39Hannah Berner?

  Why is philanthropic so hard to say? Is it because like, our enemies are out to get us, so are we trying to help people?

• 14:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Philanthropic is like one of those words that when you throw it around, it's like,

• 14:51Hannah Berner?

  People respect you. Yeah. Wait, but what's the difference between philanthropic and then like Philharmonic? They're too close.

• 14:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember we had a whole bit about the Philharmonic Symphony?

• 15:02Hannah Berner?

  Wait, but who was like, you know, we should do Philharmonic, but change it slightly and then it's a lot of donating to charities.

• 15:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Wasn't it the story like a girl had an orgasm at the Philharmonic Symphony?

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 15:15Paige DeSorbo?

  What a throwback.

• 15:17Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god. Well, philanthropy, Philharmonic, I don't know, some Latin thing in there.

• 15:21Paige DeSorbo?

  One thing before we move on from my, that flight to Italy, there is something I've been doing on long flights and I'm not getting it's changing my life. And this is like some real AARP shit. Now, any flight over, really, I've been doing it on every flight, but specifically ones that are like over two and a half hours, I've been wearing compression socks.

• 15:43Hannah Berner?

  You're an athlete.

• 15:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Life changing. Changing the game. Here's the other thing I've been doing. I haven't been eating on flights anymore. Because my stomach gets so insanely fucked up when I get off the flight for like the next 24 hours. It's like bloated. So I've been doing both of those things. And when I get off the plane, I don't feel as like swollen and just like gross.

• 16:08Hannah Berner?

  See, I don't have the kind of self-control to be on a long flight that offers you a meal and to look in that lady's eye and be like, no, I won't take.

• 16:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I know. It's really hard. I know. It's really hard.

• 16:19Hannah Berner?

  I once was having like a full, um, stomach bug and I was like, don't risk it being on a plane. And I was like, I can't say no to a free meal.

• 16:29Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what I've been doing though? I've just been going a little bit earlier and getting so full at the lounge or like in the airport. Like in Italy, like I just ate before and then I was fine.

• 16:41Hannah Berner?

  If you want a nap, it's good to eat beforehand and then pass out.

• 16:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So that's really been helping me. But I'm like, oh my god, how old am I that I'm putting on compression socks? I was like, I literally put them on and I was like, I must add these to the newsletter.

• 16:55Hannah Berner?

  Have to add. You know, I thought about it. Actually, I think I bought compression socks. That's the difference between me and you.

• 17:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay Hannah, so I need to talk about something that's genuinely, and I mean genuinely changed the quality of my life.

• 17:07Hannah Berner?

  Let me guess, is it a new serum or like a hair mask?

• 17:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly amazing guesses. It's actually Waymo. If I don't want to see a man, I just get into a Waymo. Night is over, I'm relaxed.

• 17:18Hannah Berner?

  Time for a PSA on Waymo.

• 17:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's about time.

• 17:22Hannah Berner?

  Raise your hand if you've ever had a bad experience in a car service situation.

• 17:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I could write a book. I've gotten out of them. Pull over.

• 17:30Hannah Berner?

  That's why Waymo gives us peace and calmness after a long night to take me home safely.

• 17:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And I don't have to check a box if I want to talk or not. It doesn't exist.

• 17:42Hannah Berner?

  We're never talking. We don't want to talk. A life hack at the end of the night when you're exhausted, tired and scared because it's dark out.

• 17:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:50Hannah Berner?

  Is to get a Waymo to take you home safely.

• 17:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It is a really good life hack because it actually eliminates so many different things you worry about. So it's actually like at the top of my life hack list along with like all the things I bring to a hotel room.

• 18:04Hannah Berner?

  When you get into ride shares, you're normally so stressed. Our biggest life hack is dealing with Waymo over random strangers in cars. I mean, at that point, I'd rather get my own driver's license and figure it out.

• 18:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's a scary thought, but we also love to de-center men and Waymo kind of does it for us because we don't have a driver. So we don't even have to go into the logistics of it.

• 18:27Hannah Berner?

  When you're with a driver, there's a mental checklist. Like, are they going the right way? Are they taking me somewhere I don't want to go? How is their energy? Are they getting road rage? In a Waymo, I can just close my eyes, take a nap and not be bothered.

• 18:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the best feeling because I do want to fall asleep maybe when I'm on my way to my destination. But in other ride shares, I have to stay alert.

• 18:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I have to make sure the windows are unlocked. I have to be putting them down every three seconds. Like, what if I have to get out?

• 18:55Hannah Berner?

  You have to put your friend on the phone being like, do you know where I am?

• 18:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I have to tell him that my location is shared with someone else, just so he knows.

• 19:04Hannah Berner?

  So if you want to be unbothered and relaxed and you live in a city with Waymos, download the Waymo app and ride. And if you live in a non-Waymo city, sign up to help bring Waymo to your city at waymo.com/updates.

• 19:16Paige DeSorbo?

  This is us being women in STEM, bringing Waymo to the women and keeping them safe.

• 19:20Hannah Berner?

  Thanks to Waymo for supporting this segment. Also, I'm in a bad mood because I have the sniffles, which means like I keep sneezing, which is like the one thing that like really hurts my back. So I've been just like sneezing and cursing and laughing. Like, I'm.

• 19:38Paige DeSorbo?

  You are your grandpa.

• 19:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm a grandpa. Also, it sounds like I'm going through an exorcism every time I sneeze. I'm like,

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think, do you have allergies?

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  I never thought I had allergies.

• 19:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:51Hannah Berner?

  But I would love to say I have allergies.

• 19:54Paige DeSorbo?

  One time I told my mom I thought I had allergies and she

• 19:58Paige DeSorbo?

  100% dead ass looked me in my face and goes, disorbos don't have allergies. No, you don't.

• 20:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, okay. It was like the weirdest flex.

• 20:10Paige DeSorbo?

  As if to say that like allergies are all in people's heads.

• 20:13Hannah Berner?

  It's like weak genes.

• 20:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, as if we are a stronger family than like another family of allergies.

• 20:23Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I'm so sorry, but my phone is blowing up and do you know who's calling me?

• 20:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Who?

• 20:27Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, one of the 400 medical portals that I put all my information into. Also, I have like a Pilates class in Vancouver that I took a year ago that calls me every day.

• 20:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I have like a gym from Albany that I belong to in college that straight up texts me all the time.

• 20:43Hannah Berner?

  Also, if you cancel a doctor's appointment, they're like, okay, and then they continue to call you every day.

• 20:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:49Hannah Berner?

  But they won't answer you when you're trying to make an appointment, but then they'll bother you for the rest of your life.

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  The medical field is crazy. The medical field is really like, I feel for the girls because I'm sure there's a lot of frustration happening.

• 21:04Hannah Berner?

  Let's discuss, are you going to the US Open tonight?

• 21:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 21:08Hannah Berner?

  It is a lot, and by a lot, you have to put an outfit together.

• 21:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but I'm not stressed because I ordered this navy blue skirt that I didn't think was gonna come until like a couple of weeks, but it's here now. So it's like, I could just wear my new navy blue skirt, so I'm not stressed about it.

• 21:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 21:23Paige DeSorbo?

  But also, I am still very jet lagged.

• 21:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 21:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Something's going on. My body's just being really sensitive this past couple of weeks. I don't know what's going on with me. And Scorpios aren't having a great go of it astrologically.

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  What did it say?

• 21:39Paige DeSorbo?

  We've just been having issues. And you wanna know what? Remember when I got my astrology read and he was like, are you having the worst year of your life? And I was like, no. Well, it's in the back of my head because Scorpios are having like a really tough time. We had a tough time this summer and we're having a tough time this fall.

• 21:54Hannah Berner?

  Maybe it's just in your gut, cuz like I feel like everything else is going well. Maybe you did a little witchcraft and you put all your pain on to me.

• 22:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think, you know, sometimes I'll see things on TikToks where it's like actual girls doing spells and I'm like, okay, you guys are crazy. But I'll stay a little too long. Like, have you ever seen like candle cord cutting? I'm like, I gotta go.

• 22:18Hannah Berner?

  Someone was talking about they'll put someone's name in their fridge. Nicole Kidman, she puts their name in their fridge to like ice them out. To be like, you're not a part of my life anymore.

• 22:28Paige DeSorbo?

  That gives me like a little bit of voodoo and I believe in God, so like I can't, I'm not even like going down that route, you know?

• 22:35Hannah Berner?

  God was not happy with your angel visit.

• 22:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but it's like he creates those people, so I'm like, you can't really be mad. You gave them that, those powers.

• 22:44Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent.

• 22:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I do need to see a psychic, I feel like.

• 22:48Hannah Berner?

  Are you due?

• 22:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I haven't seen a psychic medium in a while.

• 22:51Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I actually, I might have a new girl, but um.

• 22:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, cuz I feel like I haven't gotten like a year.

• 22:55Hannah Berner?

  I have to speak about the open, um, what?

• 23:00Paige DeSorbo?

  That what I wanted to ask you that, something.

• 23:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, everyone's coming for influencers.

• 23:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I wanted to see what your take was.

• 23:05Hannah Berner?

  Okay, my take was that it was one video.

• 23:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:08Hannah Berner?

  One video of these influencers that spoke when they're not supposed to speak. They were like singing something. And, okay, this is not like a real issue. I've watched every single match at the US Open. No matches are like struggling. There's more fans than ever. Also, a guy was smoking weed during Sabalenka's match. No one's talking about that.

• 23:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw that.

• 23:32Hannah Berner?

  No one's talking about that.

• 23:33Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy.

• 23:34Hannah Berner?

  So I think they're making it worse than it is. I do think if people wanna know, like with tennis, you're not supposed to talk during the point. You clap after the point and then you're supposed to be pretty quiet during the point. But I do think the influencer story is very clickbaity, but it's like gone crazy. Like everyone's talking about it and I'm telling you, if it's a thing, it'll be happening every match. This was one match in particular, but I also do have a soft spot for like new female fans that I don't wanna be afraid to go to tennis. Whenever there's new fans in anything, they, it takes a second to like understand it.

• 24:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:10Hannah Berner?

  But I feel like the smoking weed thing was fucking crazy.

• 24:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like that's so disrespectful. As someone who thinks that weed should be legal because I think it's, I think alcohol is way worse. I think there are certain, you wouldn't light up a cigarette in the middle of Ash Stadium.

• 24:28Hannah Berner?

  This isn't the eighties on an airplane.

• 24:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, then why would you ever light up a joint at the, I think that's so gross.

• 24:34Hannah Berner?

  Also, you guys know me and my mom, we hate cigarettes. We'll be walking down the street. If someone's smoking a cigarette, my mom will go, like she's so.

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It's, it really is kind of crazy how like back they are.

• 24:48Hannah Berner?

  It's, makes me so upset. I do, every influencer posting smoking cigarettes, why are you doing it? Like, what's the reason why? Cuz you want a young person that is influenced by you to be influenced to kill themselves?

• 25:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like Instagram is almost leaning a little bit more like Tumblr days.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 25:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And I think there's a certain age group that's like, but it's kind of like, it's very early nineties. It's like, it's just in our hand.

• 25:14Hannah Berner?

  This really makes me upset, um.

• 25:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know. No, I know. No, the other day I saw a 13-year-old girl like on TV in full makeup and I got really upset by it. I was really upset.

• 25:25Hannah Berner?

  I wanna know your thoughts. Okay, Dez and I went to a like cabaret burlesque show.

• 25:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Were you out on Saturday night?

• 25:33Hannah Berner?

  I went out.

• 25:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I looked at your location, I go, this is not where her apartment is. Where is she?

• 25:38Hannah Berner?

  I went out. I was wearing like, uh, like crazy top and capris.

• 25:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's crazy? We went from not having each other's locations a couple of months ago to now straight up stalking. I landed, I, guys, I landed in America. Like, my phone gets wifi, my first text is Hannah, welcome back.

• 25:57Hannah Berner?

  No, okay, I swear to God, I actually wasn't stalking you. I went to text you, which is like every 10 minutes, and it said Queens. So I was like, hello, welcome back.

• 26:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I was in Italy. I'm literally walking into, walking into Gucci. My brother calls me. I go, do you have a goddamn tracker on me?

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  I was texting you on the plane and I was like, you're right above Dublin right now.

• 26:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah goes, wow, you're in Ireland.

• 26:22Hannah Berner?

  So we go to this burlesque show. First of all.

• 26:24Paige DeSorbo?

  How did you think, how was that your idea for a date? Like, who came up with the idea that it'd be?

• 26:29Hannah Berner?

  I wanted to go to this restaurant. And then the restaurant was like, at this restaurant, there's a burlesque show. And I'm like, we can't eat or not go to the burlesque show. And then I was like, I don't wanna do anything on Saturday night, but I'll watch other people do shit on a Saturday night. So, and he was like down. I think cuz the comedy world, he actually would do a lot of festivals, so he became friends with like the circus people, kind of. They're like the people that do like Cirque du Soleil and like they do all this crazy shit. So he, I don't know, he's like knows, whatever. I don't know about that. He knows flexible, like.

• 27:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember when, isn't it crazy to think of like insults from like back in the day? Like an insult used to be, go join like the carnival. Like, oh, she joined like the circus.

• 27:16Hannah Berner?

  So the circus is actually like really hot people that are really good at dancing and they're super flexible. They could put like fire down their throat, but also, like, I can imagine they're all just like having crazy sex.

• 27:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You're not that flexible and not having threesomes, like.

• 27:29Hannah Berner?

  That's like me getting mad when hot people aren't in relationships. If you're that flexible and you're not.

• 27:34Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to be polyamorous.

• 27:40Hannah Berner?

  If I could put my leg behind my head, I'd have three boyfriends.

• 27:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like you have to do more for the people.

• 27:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like you can't just leave it to one guy, like.

• 27:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Share your talents.

• 27:52Hannah Berner?

  Also, why are they always talking about how the girls have to be flexible? Why can't the guys be flexible?

• 27:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Hannah Berner?

  I don't guess.

• 27:57Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:00Hannah Berner?

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• 31:09Paige DeSorbo?

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• 34:41Hannah Berner?

  I become a sleazy man when I'm there. Like, because the saxophone player comes up, I'm like, "Take off your shirt. Why is this guy's shirt on?" I didn't pay to watch a guy with, fucking, zipped up to the neck. "Take your fucking shirt off." Dez is like, "Calm down." And I'm like, "No."

• 34:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Dez is like, "It's not a strip club. It's a classy burlesque show."

• 35:02Hannah Berner?

  But eventually, he took his shirt off, and I looked at Dez, and I was like, "Thank you." And then the girls, you can't help, like, they're all wearing, like, thongs, and they're dancing, and they're all over the place.

• 35:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:13Hannah Berner?

  The only thing I kept thinking about was like, "How do they shave so well?"

• 35:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:18Hannah Berner?

  Not one hair out of place.

• 35:20Paige DeSorbo?

  My thing is, are they taping or doing some type of, like, stickiness of, for the thong to keep their vagina in? Because like, okay, if you're wearing a thong and you're moving all crazy, at some point, the thong is gonna move a little and you're just labia out. So they must, they have to tape it down or something.

• 35:44Hannah Berner?

  And they're changing outfits, like, it's crazy. And they're so physically fit.

• 35:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  They're just pure athletes. These girls are amazing. Also, the singer.

• 35:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, are they singing?

• 35:54Hannah Berner?

  So there's one girl who sings, and she, like, hosts the show. She's doing crowd work. She's unbelievable. And this is coming from someone who's been to the VMAs. I've been to American Music Awards. She sang live, better than half the people on those shows. There's so many fucking talented people on this planet who aren't famous, which is crazy, because everyone's famous.

• 36:13Paige DeSorbo?

  What was the demographic in the crowd? Like, who were you sitting with?

• 36:17Hannah Berner?

  It was just like couples. Like, it was very date night, but like, some older men and younger women, me and Dez, you know? But, okay, this is the only drama.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think anyone thinks you're a sugar baby?

• 36:28Hannah Berner?

  Yes, or like, second-wife energy.

• 36:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, second-wife energy. Oh, okay.

• 36:34Hannah Berner?

  If he was uglier, I think people would think, like, sugar baby.

• 36:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  But instead, it's giving, like, he's trying a new world.

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Flavor, yeah.

• 36:44Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so this guy sits next to us, and I try not to be judgy, especially of men. I give men so much grace. He sits down, the waitress goes, "How are we feeling?" And he goes, "Hungry and thirsty."

• 36:57Hannah Berner?

  Immediately, I'm like, "I hate this man." And then she goes, "What would you like to eat, sir?" And he goes, "Well, the lady would like..." I feel like he was trying to be funny, but that was crazy. He's like ordering for her. "The lady would like this." I'm like, "I just don't like this man." Then when she turns around, he pulls out a vape.

• 37:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I thought you were gonna say he's gonna slap her ass. I was like, "It's assault."

• 37:18Hannah Berner?

  Pulls out a vape. It was like, one of these also, like, bad flavors, like strawberry, melon.

• 37:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that you're like, this could, like, start a car.

• 37:28Hannah Berner?

  Like, we're all glowing in the dark after this. This is fully Chernobyl.

• 37:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Hannah Berner?

  He fucking hits it, turns in our direction, and blows it at us. Next thing you know, I'm inhaling. It tastes so, I taste it in my mouth. I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." So then I pull a mom and I go,

• 37:46Hannah Berner?

  and Dez is looking at, Dez is like, "Do not..." I'm like, "I would never say anything, but this is crazy." And he's like, "This is illegal." Like, it's crazy. He does it again.

• 37:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy.

• 37:55Hannah Berner?

  Crazy. So then, mid-show, then I start to get worried that Dez might, like, say something, because like, I don't want Dez to have to, like, scare him or something.

• 38:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:03Hannah Berner?

  So then the guy apparently turned to Dez and said, "I'm sorry," like, apologized for it. But like,

• 38:10Hannah Berner?

  it's wild in these streets.

• 38:12Paige DeSorbo?

  How old is this guy?

• 38:14Hannah Berner?

  57.

• 38:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, if someone didn't know your age and they just listened to this episode of the podcast, and all they heard was that, like, your back is out, your chiropractor, you couldn't figure out the portal because technology, you're totally against smoking, especially in public places. How dare they?

• 38:34Hannah Berner?

  And I don't understand how vapes work.

• 38:36Paige DeSorbo?

  And you went to a burlesque show because that used to be your only form of entertainment 40 years ago.

• 38:44Paige DeSorbo?

  We're only in our 30s. We don't even have kids.

• 38:48Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm so much younger than I am in my heart.

• 38:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:52Hannah Berner?

  And I had a drink.

• 38:54Paige DeSorbo?

  We...

• 38:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, this was, I have a drink. I turn to Dez, I go, "Do you know what alcohol tastes like? Rubbing alcohol?" He goes, "Alcohol tastes like alcohol, yeah." I'm like, "It tastes like a fucking, like, a laundry detergent that I'm about to use to, like, clean someone's floor."

• 39:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's not good. It's really not good.

• 39:11Hannah Berner?

  Alcohol's bad.

• 39:13Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what I tried? Where was I that I was like, "Maybe I have a taste for this now?" And I was like, "You guys are psychotic." Was it...

• 39:22Hannah Berner?

  Whiskey?

• 39:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Whiskey?

• 39:24Hannah Berner?

  Whiskey sour?

• 39:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was just like, it was just like a glass with ice and brown liquor. It was either scotch or whiskey. And I just, like, took a sip, and... The guys are, they're lying. This is how I know men lie. I'm like, "There's just no fucking way. You sit here and you sip this all night, and you're like, 'This is a good drink.'"

• 39:48Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's my question about cigars. You're not even inhaling. How do you love it so much?

• 39:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It gives you a head high. Gives you, like, a buzz. Well, you've never smoked a cigarette, so you wouldn't know that. And I didn't even mean to sound like an eighth-grade bully. I didn't, that's not how I meant it.

• 40:04Hannah Berner?

  Maybe try cigars. Okay.

• 40:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I'm saying, like, the first time you smoke a cigarette and you feel the buzz of what it is, you're like, "Oh, that's why people smoke cigarettes." Like, I think maybe the first time I ever tried a cigarette, I was like, 18. I was like, in college, and I was like, "I don't get it."

• 40:22Hannah Berner?

  I would've been so mad at you if I was there.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, "I don't get it. Like, this is, like, stupid, whatever."

• 40:27Hannah Berner?

  Paige, can I talk to you for a second?

• 40:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Then if I'm, then I think I was like, in my 20s, out at a club. I was drunk. I smoked a cigarette. I got a head high, and I was like, "Oh, this is why people do it?" Because it makes you feel like a little woozy for a minute, and then you, like, go back to... So that's what, like, a cigar does. It gives you, like, a little head high.

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  Well, because they just want a cigar lounge where they all can sit together and, like, suck on these very phallic-shaped, like, why are they so big? Like, they're like, "What if we made a cigarette, but it was bigger and fatter, and you could just, like, suck on it all day?"

• 41:07Hannah Berner?

  And me, I make it dark.

• 41:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Joe's gonna kill you.

• 41:10Hannah Berner?

  Joe is gonna literally kill you.

• 41:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Every time I record the bond, Joe goes, "What'd you guys talk about?" And I go, "I don't know." I literally blacked out. I'm gonna remember today.

• 41:20Hannah Berner?

  Honey, honey. And then like, the way they judge each other's cigars, they're like, "How, how expensive is your cigar?"

• 41:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:29Hannah Berner?

  Oh, also, one more US Open thing.

• 41:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm.

• 41:32Hannah Berner?

  Carlos Alcaraz, who I just have to say, looks great with his hair long.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:37Hannah Berner?

  His hair pushed back. It looks so good, because he had like, kind of a razor cut for a while. He grew it out while he was injured. He's come back. And Nike's doing this like, basketball type of campaign with all their clothes. So he wears this jersey, and the whole first round, his nipples out. Like, he hits a winner and his nipple, like, you know when you go to sleep with a tank top and you wake up with the tit out? That's, that was how he played the entire match. Yeah. And the girls and the gays, we were like, shout out Carlos, like,

• 42:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:05Hannah Berner?

  Sasha, through this match, you look gorgeous. And he, it was like a slow-mo forehand, then just like, his nipple perfectly popping out.

• 42:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine if he had it pierced.

• 42:14Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 42:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Sexy.

• 42:16Hannah Berner?

  But like, also, these guys like, take their shirt off every like, three games. Like, it's not that crazy. But then the second round, he had an undershirt on.

• 42:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think people like, said something?

• 42:26Hannah Berner?

  I think maybe he was-

• 42:27Paige DeSorbo?

  He got self-conscious?

• 42:28Hannah Berner?

  I think he got self-conscious, or maybe Nike was like, "Hey, your nipple's getting more attention than the fit." I don't know what happened, but they asked him in an interview, and he kind of was like-

• 42:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, so Nike's anti-nipple injury?

• 42:42Hannah Berner?

  But it was fun for, for a game.

• 42:46Paige DeSorbo?

  For a minute?

• 42:46Hannah Berner?

  For a minute. Um, but now he's covering his nipples. But the girls are going off with fashion at the Open. Have you seen any?

• 42:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, the actual players?

• 42:54Hannah Berner?

  Like, Taylor Townsend, Naomi Osaka.

• 42:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw Naomi Osaka.

• 42:58Hannah Berner?

  She had like, Tom Brown put something together. I think La Roche is styling her. So they have these like, runway walks on-

• 43:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I like that.

• 43:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's, it's kung.

• 43:06Paige DeSorbo?

  That's fun.

• 43:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's really fun.

• 43:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Especially because I feel like, the US Open is always around Fashion Week, and it's in New York City. I'm surprised the US Open isn't in, like, Florida.

• 43:20Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 43:20Paige DeSorbo?

  You know?

• 43:21Hannah Berner?

  It's, historically, it was in Queens on grass courts, so I think it just evolved from there. But, um, but yeah, there's a trillion tennis courts in Florida.

• 43:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, I feel like, it just like, gives, tennis to me, I think Florida. I don't know why. Golf and tennis, I think Florida.

• 43:37Hannah Berner?

  If you go tonight, you could say that to someone.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not gonna say that.

• 43:42Hannah Berner?

  Hey, why aren't you in Florida? Why don't we just pack this shit up, move to Florida?

• 43:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they would have more room, I would assume. More people would be able to get tickets. I think half the reason people get, were so mad at influencers this year is-

• 43:59Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 44:02Paige DeSorbo?

  At like, the second matches, because they were going so late, you could see a lot of the boxes were done. They were empty, which brands have the boxes, which bring in the influencers. So I think like, a lot of fans feel like they get priced out each year.

• 44:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And then there're, look, there's empty seats, and I think that annoys them.

• 44:22Hannah Berner?

  Not to defend all women, but like, get mad at the brand.

• 44:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 44:26Hannah Berner?

  Also, a lot of these corporate boxes, they send an email out to the company, like, "Hey, who wants to go to the US Open?"

• 44:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  No one wants to go, and then they have these empty boxes.

• 44:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 44:36Hannah Berner?

  Which is, that's a brand's problem. But the brands are paying tons of money for these boxes, so the US Open's gonna take it.

• 44:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's not always the women's fault.

• 44:45Hannah Berner?

  Not always. Not all women.

• 44:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Not all women. No, truly, not all women.

• 44:51Hannah Berner?

  You love when the umpire tells everyone to shut up.

• 44:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, because, because I respect power.

• 44:58Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, and so when I see a woman have power, I go, "Go off, girl." So I like when the umpire is a woman, and she says-

• 45:05Hannah Berner?

  The umpire's over his people's shit.

• 45:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And when she says, "Shh," I'm like, "God, this girl."

• 45:09Hannah Berner?

  She goes, "Thank you."

• 45:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you.

• 45:11Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. "Sir in the corner, I'm gonna have to have you stop, thank you."

• 45:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see the guy, umpire, that kept saying "deuce" really weird, so then the crowd would say it back to him really weird?

• 45:21Hannah Berner?

  Not to defend a man, but like, he just has a really low baritone voice, and they were making fun of his voice, and it made me feel bad. Because he talks like this.

• 45:29Paige DeSorbo?

  But that's like, so New York, I feel like.

• 45:31Hannah Berner?

  I know. Also, like, let New York, New York. Like, it's chaos. New York can't be managed.

• 45:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they can't.

• 45:37Hannah Berner?

  Also, don't give us honey deuces up the asshole, and expect us to be quiet the whole time. These people are, there's a keg of honey deuce, and then it's like, "Why is everyone not silent?"

• 45:50Hannah Berner?

  It's like going to frat party and be like, "It's a library now."

• 45:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did you see all this stuff about the college, like, run club?

• 45:57Hannah Berner?

  Oh, everyone's mad. All the millennials are mad.

• 45:59Paige DeSorbo?

  The millennials are mad.

• 46:03Hannah Berner?

  And I hate to say this after saying I don't condone drinking or smoking, but-

• 46:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:07Hannah Berner?

  Part of college is blacking out.

• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Drinking and smoking.

• 46:10Hannah Berner?

  And finding your way home. Like, that is your first lesson of life, being in a foreign land, with just twenty-year-olds running everywhere. You're puking, you don't even know your name.

• 46:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think you realize what college is for until you get out in the real world, and it sucks.

• 46:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 46:27Paige DeSorbo?

  It's basically like, life gives you these four years to like,

• 46:31Hannah Berner?

  Fuck up.

• 46:31Paige DeSorbo?

  fuck around, and like, understand that you're about to be an adult soon, and shit's gonna get really hard. Because then when you get out, you're like, "What the hell is this?"

• 46:43Hannah Berner?

  Well, because when you're in college, it's not a problem, it's cute.

• 46:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 46:47Hannah Berner?

  When you do that shit during college, you're just like, growing and learning about yourself. When you do it when you're thirty-two, people start having meetings, interventions.

• 46:56Paige DeSorbo?

  As much fun as college was, I don't think either of us would ever choose to go back to that age.

• 47:02Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 47:03Paige DeSorbo?

  It's quite draining.

• 47:05Hannah Berner?

  It was really scary. I was so scared.

• 47:07Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, I feel like I look better now, too.

• 47:10Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah. No, so scary, because, yeah, it's so scary. Also, I've aged myself to the point that someone messaged me like, a dating question, and I like, couldn't help them. Because I was like, aged out.

• 47:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, what?

• 47:23Hannah Berner?

  Someone was like, "Hey, um, I'm on this dating app, and I saw my coworker, and I swiped on him, and he hasn't responded, so I deleted the app, and like, I don't know what to do." And I'm like, I'm gonna be so real with y'all, I haven't swiped in ten years at this point. So I don't know how the app works anymore, but normally, like, he wouldn't know you swiped unless he swiped on you. But like, I didn't want to get into it and be like, "Tell me the updated algorithm of how like, this app works."

• 47:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, like, she was asking, like, "Did he see it?"

• 47:52Hannah Berner?

  She, yeah, but she, also like, I just couldn't help her, because I don't know how the apps works, work anymore. Because I know how it worked in like, twenty eighteen.

• 48:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 48:01Hannah Berner?

  That was my shit.

• 48:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. No, I don't know how the, I don't know how any of the apps work either, but also, trying to think what I would do if I saw a coworker, would I swipe on them or not? I feel like I wouldn't.

• 48:15Hannah Berner?

  It depends, is he your office crush?

• 48:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:17Hannah Berner?

  Maybe this is the move. I remember if I saw anyone I knew on the app, I would swipe right, to be like, "Ha-ha." Like, you know, you're like, "Oh, I know that, that guy."

• 48:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, why is this like, I feel like I, this was just on Love Island, and they were like, yelling at one of the girls for like, swiping. And she was like, "I just like, saw him. I wasn't trying to like, talk to him."

• 48:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I love that.

• 48:37Paige DeSorbo?

  But to your point, which it was, she was like, a "ha-ha," like, I see-

• 48:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like, when I was roommates with Dave and Corey, when I'd see one of their friends on the app, you'd swipe, so you could message them on it, and be like, "Ha-ha, you're stupid."

• 48:52Paige DeSorbo?

  "Ha-ha, I bet no girls want you."

• 48:55Hannah Berner?

  "Ha, what the fuck are you doing here, you lonely asshole?"

• 48:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you watched anything?

• 48:59Hannah Berner?

  Okay, there's stuff coming up, and something I did watch, it's called "Welcome to the Family" on Hulu.

• 49:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:06Hannah Berner?

  That if I didn't drug myself yesterday, I would have finished. It is incredible. It's about this husband who gets murdered, and they realize that this woman's family might be behind this murder.

• 49:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw this commercial.

• 49:21Hannah Berner?

  It's basically like, be careful who you marry into, which reminds me of my joke, which it's like, they say, "You marry the man, you don't marry the man, you marry the man's family," and I said, "No, if you time it right, he's dead, his family's dead."

• 49:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Just his parents, not his whole family.

• 49:40Paige DeSorbo?

  He has siblings.

• 49:42Hannah Berner?

  But this was one of those things where like, the, the parents hated her husband.

• 49:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:47Hannah Berner?

  And they were like, gonna do anything they could to get him out of her life. And there's also the brother that's involved, and you hear phone calls of the brother and the mom talking about how, how much they hate that guy. It's basically like, we love a close family, that's Italians.

• 50:04Hannah Berner?

  And it's like, I know so many families like this, and everyone talks about, like gossiping within your family's fun. But to actually be like, let's put a hit on.

• 50:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's kill, let's kill that other family is insane. You know what's crazy is like, how do you find that many people that have the same mental illness as you?

• 50:25Hannah Berner?

  You mean, like nosiness?

• 50:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, how does, how is the whole family that crazy? That they're like, John just came up with the best idea, you're gonna wanna hear it. And then they hear it and they're like, that's the best idea, let's murk this whole family.

• 50:40Hannah Berner?

  Well, the thing with families is they do enable each other, and a lot of the times, they have the same genetic issues. And I find with some of these crazy families, there's always one black sheep. And they do, they have one guy who was like, fuck this family, one of the brothers, that's like, he moved like, across the country and doesn't talk to them. And he's gonna ask questions and he's like, well, they're fucking crazy, but I didn't think they were capable of this.

• 51:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 51:04Hannah Berner?

  So, very, very interesting.

• 51:08Paige DeSorbo?

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• 52:35Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:19Paige DeSorbo?

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• 54:04Paige DeSorbo?

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• 54:56Hannah Berner?

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• 55:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel, and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out, and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 55:17Hannah Berner?

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• 55:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 55:38Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 55:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

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• 56:05Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:30Hannah Berner?

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• 56:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 57:30Hannah Berner?

  Also, Nathan Fielder has a documentary coming out with Elizabeth Holmes, who's the one person that I'm actually really good at doing an impression of.

• 57:39Paige DeSorbo?

  That actually is really good. I'm so excited, I thought that show with Amanda Seyfried was so good, I thought the documentary about her was so good, I can't wait to watch this. And this is right before she goes to jail, or right when she gets out of jail?

• 57:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, right before she goes to jail, and he's trying to like-

• 57:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Is she still in?

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  I'm not sure, but he's trying to understand her, like, is she crazy? Is she evil? Is she both? And she's looking at him and she's like, I'm just trying to do the best I can.

• 58:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he says something like, are you being real right now? And she's like, I'm always being real.

• 58:10Hannah Berner?

  I'm always being real.

• 58:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Very eerie.

• 58:12Hannah Berner?

  Very eerie. Also, Nathan Fielder doing documentaries, sign me the fuck up, that sounds very interesting.

• 58:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:17Hannah Berner?

  Last on my list, this has been out for a while, but the Giggles recommended it to me, it's called Some Kind of Heaven. And it's basically like college for retired people, which is something I, I love. Like imagine, once you retire, you go to one of these communities, and it's literally like, partying, and like, fun clubs, and like, pools, and sex. And like, it's basically college, but you're done with life.

• 58:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And, but you're like 75?

• 58:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but then it talks about like, the underbelly of it, and how like, people are mean and catty, and like, the drama of this like retired club, I think like in Florida.

• 58:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Doing drugs.

• 59:00Hannah Berner?

  For sure.

• 59:03Hannah Berner?

  For sure.

• 59:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's definitely people abusing drugs and like getting fucked up.

• 59:09Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's addicted to painkillers.

• 59:11Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so crazy. This is a documentary or like a-

• 59:14Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's a documentary about like what's actually going on at one of these retirement places that goes a little too crazy. I mean STDs are thriving.

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  That's crazy. Okay, I want to watch that kind of. How many episodes?

• 59:28Hannah Berner?

  I'm not sure. I have to look into it. Um, also I have to apologize to the community. We were talking about like how we used to have so many hot guys as millennials. And someone was like, you guys missed like the hottest guys.

• 59:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Who?

• 59:40Hannah Berner?

  Paul Walker.

• 59:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but he wasn't in a TV show.

• 59:44Hannah Berner?

  Josh Hartnett.

• 59:45Paige DeSorbo?

  What? He wasn't in a TV show?

• 59:47Hannah Berner?

  Valid. And Freddie Prince Jr.

• 59:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Again, not in a TV show.

• 59:51Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 59:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I, of course, we had those men and I would say that they were movie stars. I'm talking CW, 8:00 PM, Thursday night. I want to see Chad Michael Murray. I want whoever played fucking Nathan.

• 1:00:06Hannah Berner?

  I was so into Chad Michael Murray.

• 1:00:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I want like the guy who played Jess in Gilmore Girls. He's like really famous now.

• 1:00:15Hannah Berner?

  See, that's the thing about me-

• 1:00:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Milo, whatever.

• 1:00:16Hannah Berner?

  I love a blonde. And that's my toxic trait.

• 1:00:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You're sick. I don't think people know that.

• 1:00:22Hannah Berner?

  When Chad Michael, Michael Murray came out, I was like, um, that's, everything makes sense. Everything makes sense.

• 1:00:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's how Stephanie was. She like loved him.

• 1:00:30Hannah Berner?

  When he was in Freaky Friday, I loved him in Freaky Friday.

• 1:00:33Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I thought miscast. I watched Freaky Friday and I go, a miscast. I didn't find him that-

• 1:00:41Hannah Berner?

  He was tall and dumb and blonde. I loved it. He was just like, hey. These men also had no lines. They had no lines in all these movies. They were just like, what's your name?

• 1:00:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Except in Gilmore Girls, um, the one blonde boyfriend that she had. Not Dean, not Jess. What was the other guy's name?

• 1:00:59Hannah Berner?

  There was every guy named Dean who was, Dean or Ethan was like the name of every single boyfriend.

• 1:01:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, wait.

• 1:01:05Hannah Berner?

  The 2000s.

• 1:01:06Paige DeSorbo?

  This is actually like, I can't, I feel like I should go to the hospital that I don't know this.

• 1:01:11Hannah Berner?

  I could book an appointment for you if you want.

• 1:01:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Logan. Oh my god, Logan Hunsberger. That, he was my favorite boyfriend. I always wanted her to end up with him, but because like, he was a bad boy and he like had a lot of money and so he would like take her to cool places and I loved him. And he was blonde.

• 1:01:27Hannah Berner?

  It's like the Aiden versus Big debate?

• 1:01:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Hannah Berner?

  Like you loved Big.

• 1:01:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Hannah Berner?

  But this is my thing, I didn't like that Aiden was like an artist. He like did furniture. I was like, I don't know.

• 1:01:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't mind that. I didn't like that Aiden was like so dramatic and like emotional.

• 1:01:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, he was always like, shut up.

• 1:01:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And your country house fucking sucks. Like, why would I want to be in a country house when Big could put me in a goddamn limo up to a penthouse? Like, shut up.

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  He was whiny.

• 1:01:58Paige DeSorbo?

  But really, my favorite character of all time in Sex and the City is the girl that Big married and cheated on. Natasha. She's the chicest, she was the prettiest. I, I loved her the most.

• 1:02:14Hannah Berner?

  She's Tom Brady's ex-wife in real life, you know that.

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of Tom Brady, I watched the Earl Show the whole plane ride home from my flight. This episode is definitely themed because I felt very old. Like even though I, there were certain things like I could relate to being on reality TV and there were like certain things that I could like pick up on. There was like a moment where like the one sister Ashton says like, I'm 23. And I was like, oh, no, this is a small little girl. Like, and people are being mean to her. Like, I, it made me, it made me upset that

• 1:02:58Paige DeSorbo?

  things that they're feeling about being in the public eye, I didn't feel until I was like 28, 29. And I'm, and I was just like, I, I feel bad that they, they're feeling it right now and there's people that are so jealous and mean to them.

• 1:03:11Hannah Berner?

  Also, they're at the point where like, that first heartbreak, I heard she talks about Braxton, like, yeah, when you're in your early twenties and you have that first heartbreak, it feels like the end of the world.

• 1:03:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:03:21Hannah Berner?

  Like I wanted to hold her and be like, babe, you're not gonna remember him.

• 1:03:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I also give the girls, the two older, like Alex and Ashton, I give them a lot, a lot of credit for how mature they are in terms of having a stepmom and like a whole, their dad having like a whole second family. They're so respectful to their stepmom and like mature in like their situation. I just thought it was so commendable. Like I would, I could never. At 33, I could never. Like certain things the stepmom said to Alex. If I had a stepmom and she ever said that to me, I, no. No. Like there were certain conversations and I was like, what did you just say to her?

• 1:04:06Hannah Berner?

  And I will never call you mom.

• 1:04:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I just, I was like, I would never be this nice to someone who did something so crazy to my mom. So I like commended them for that.

• 1:04:19Hannah Berner?

  There's a lot of people online who love to hate influencers. I've seen things just like making fun of whatever, like a blonde influencer.

• 1:04:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:26Hannah Berner?

  Alex Earl's smarter than-

• 1:04:28Paige DeSorbo?

  An influencer?

• 1:04:29Hannah Berner?

  Than the majority of people. Like she's fucking smart. Like say what you want about her, but don't say she's this dumb, annoying influencer. She's a marketing genius. Like, we're just doing the Kardashians all over again. It's like, what do they have real talent? Uh, okay. They do.

• 1:04:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Hey, sweet, sweet girls.

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  They're, they're smart, they're strategic and-

• 1:04:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Very smart.

• 1:04:52Hannah Berner?

  Like this isn't an accident that she's been able to grow her career, you know?

• 1:04:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, 100%. But it was like a good, it was a cute reality show. It's only like eight episodes I watched. I think I finished it on the plane, but it was good.

• 1:05:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. That's awesome. I have to dig in even though I have trouble with reality sometimes.

• 1:05:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's actually, it's not for you.

• 1:05:16Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 1:05:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it's not as, it's not as explosive as like a Bravo show. Like there's really not that much drama.

• 1:05:27Hannah Berner?

  I also have a feminist moment. I was just thinking about husbands and wives. You know how in the past, like husbands would be like, my wife is nagging me, my naggy wife, my wife's nagging me. We have to take that word back and say it about husbands. Like when your husband or your boyfriend knows, you'd be like, can you stop nagging me?

• 1:05:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:05:47Hannah Berner?

  Let's just try it out for a bit. Like really nag, like, ah, ah, ah, stop, stop.

• 1:05:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think anyone's ever said that to me. They've said much, much worse. I feel like a nagging would be like subdued for what I typically get.

• 1:06:03Hannah Berner?

  Sounds peaceful.

• 1:06:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It sounds, dare I say motivational.

• 1:06:08Hannah Berner?

  Dare I say supportive? That I care.

• 1:06:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I get more along the lines of evil, Satan, witchy. You know, I get things that are quite more diabolical.

• 1:06:21Hannah Berner?

  Oh, god.

• 1:06:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, I'm making everyone a better person around me.

• 1:06:25Hannah Berner?

  Mental health moment of the week. I was like scrolling on TikTok and occasionally something about me will come up.

• 1:06:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oof.

• 1:06:31Hannah Berner?

  But occasionally, it's something like nice. Like some, there's been funny stuff about my mouth going around.

• 1:06:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Every once in a while, you're like, that made me chuckle.

• 1:06:39Hannah Berner?

  And I looked and I saw that you had reposted it. I don't know, but it was just a nice TikTok about me and I was like, that's like fucking your best friend. Like it made me so happy.

• 1:06:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I think it might, might have been something about your Lululemon.

• 1:06:55Hannah Berner?

  May, or something about my mouth. I don't know, something that was like really cute and then it just had like Paige Aserba reposted. I was like, that's my fucking, that's my girl right there.

• 1:07:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I know what it was. I think a girl said Hannah still can't move her mouth, so we have six more weeks of summer. I thought, that was so funny. I said, more people need to see this because this is hilarious.

• 1:07:19Hannah Berner?

  I love, I didn't fully remember. I was like, it was something complimenting my fashion or something. I forgot and you were like, no, she was making fun of your smile and it was so good. Um, but just spreading awareness for funny women. I appreciate, I appreciate it. Um, now I literally forgot about my smile because my whole fucking back is out.

• 1:07:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, I'm so over it. I don't even think about it anymore.

• 1:07:37Hannah Berner?

  I know. And like it's-

• 1:07:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm like, this is Hannah.

• 1:07:41Hannah Berner?

  That's, it's bad, but-

• 1:07:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It's almost, it's, it's getting better.

• 1:07:45Hannah Berner?

  It's getting better, but now I'm like past the point, it's like not that funny anymore. It's just like slightly off.

• 1:07:51Paige DeSorbo?

  We're getting to the point where people are like, okay, is it gonna wear off?

• 1:07:55Hannah Berner?

  We're also getting to the point where people are like, we got it, you can't smile, I'll get a new fucking bit. Um, no, we love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling.

• 1:08:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have one question before we go.

• 1:08:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:05Paige DeSorbo?

  For the fall, are you gonna do some type of red, a diff, like what are we doing with your hair for the fall? I'm gonna send inspo pics.

• 1:08:13Hannah Berner?

  You think I should go a different red?

• 1:08:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I just think we need to amp it up and get, and do like a diff, a fall, yeah. I think I want a deeper red.

• 1:08:24Hannah Berner?

  You guys see like I'm getting off the call and she's like, and real quick, we're gonna, we're gonna change your brand.

• 1:08:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, can I see your roots for quick?

• 1:08:30Hannah Berner?

  Real quick, we're gonna have to change everything, but I love you.

• 1:08:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I think for the fall, I just want your little more fire engine-y red.

• 1:08:37Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I'm down.

• 1:08:38Paige DeSorbo?

  The summer, I think you do, you give more of like a strawberry red and I think this fall, I want something a little deeper. Okay, we'll talk, we'll offline.

• 1:08:45Hannah Berner?

  You're my, you're literally my creative director. You're like, it's not working, but we'll fix it. Don't worry. Have a good day. Bye.

• 1:08:53Hannah Berner?

  Okay, love you guys. Talk to you later.

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