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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

  Sweater season is in full effect and Abercrombie is setting a new standard. Thanks to the quality fabrics like 100% cashmere wool blends and other natural fibers, I'm using this drop as permission to curate my entire fall wardrobe around sweaters, especially the World Net Cruise sweater. It's a classic silhouette that I can easily throw on and go or dress up for nights in the city. Outfit accordingly this season with Abercrombie. Shop in the app, online and in stores. I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 0:36Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're, you're calling the FBI.

• 0:44Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 0:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:01Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:14Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:18Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts. You ignore it all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:39Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 1:44Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt for real.

• 1:49Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 1:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:01Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:05Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:23Paige DeSorbo?

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• 3:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate. Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afegato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite.

• 3:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be manners.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my galloping gigglers?

• 3:36Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a good one. We've been really horse-themed recently. I'm not sure why.

• 3:40Hannah Berner?

  You created a lot of backlash because everyone was like, "We have a horse team in Texas. It's called the Mavericks, you dumb bitch."

• 3:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You can't just say that to me. Like, you've created a lot of backlash. Like, that will put me into a literal spiral.

• 3:55Hannah Berner?

  That's the kind of backlash I love to have.

• 3:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, oh my god.

• 3:59Hannah Berner?

  I wouldn't let Paige start the pod because I'm trying to put together the perfect text message. That's a name drop. To Maria Sharbova. And obviously, everything, it's either like way too lovey-dovey or like not giving it the justice it deserves.

• 4:15Paige DeSorbo?

  How old is she? Is she our age?

• 4:17Hannah Berner?

  This is the thing. She raised me, but she's only like three years older than me because she won Wimbledon at 17.

• 4:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Is she the youngest woman to win?

• 4:26Hannah Berner?

  There were younger, like 15, 16-year-olds. There was a time where girls were winning, like, pretty young. But she came in and beat Serena Williams in the final of Wimbledon at 17 years old. And everyone's like, "A star is born." It was Lady Gaga.

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  How old was Serena Williams at the time?

• 4:41Hannah Berner?

  I think in her 20s, but like it was her prime. So, everyone was like, "Oh, Serena has got this girl." No, yeah, I'm like, so I'm still processing yesterday, but let's, before we get into it...

• 4:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just trying to think, like, wait, what's the greatest thing I ever did at 17? And I think it was, like, that was the year that everyone was like, "Paige can do hair."

• 5:02Hannah Berner?

  Like, you could do other people's hair?

• 5:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but I really couldn't. But for whatever reason, I was on the prom circuit.

• 5:09Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so you just had good PR. You weren't actually, it was all smoke and mirrors. You got lucky once and then you like, it ran like wildfire.

• 5:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I had phenomenal PR in high school. If I could bring back my PR from high school into now. I was mysterious. No one really knew. Does she drink? We don't know.

• 5:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Does she have a boyfriend? She's very candid.

• 5:32Hannah Berner?

  What was the hair, your go-to hairstyle? Like, when a girl came up to you and was like, "I need my hair done," you were like, "This is the Paige look."

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I'm not kidding. I straight up was a consultant in, at like my senior year of high school. Girls would come to my locker, be like, "This is the dress. What are the shoes, accessories and the hair?" And I'd be like...

• 5:50Hannah Berner?

  You're smoking a cigarette? You're like, okay.

• 5:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Pulled to the side, cascading. Are you following me? I'm like, "Not a necklace. That will be detrimental to your well-being." It's an earring. It's a larger earring. It's a bracelet and a shoe. We don't see the shoe. It's a clear loose... Like, I would go off.

• 6:08Hannah Berner?

  I think you need to consult with my sister, Majini, because Lois, she's taking it next level. She refused to wear her soccer jersey because she said it was too big and ugly.

• 6:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, been there, done that. I quit, I quit T-ball, okay? I said, "Mom, what the hell is this?" I said, "No, I'm not going." Lois is me. I am Lois. Well, you want to know what is funny? I got tagged. I kept getting tagged in this Instagram, like, reel. So, like, finally, I'm watching it and it's this mom being like, "My daughter's going to her first day of kindergarten and I'm freaking out because she picked out an outfit and I'm scared that the teachers are going to be like, 'You're a bad mom,' basically." So, I'm like, watching this video, watching this. I'm like, waiting for the outfit. I'm like, it's going to be something crazy, like a bathing suit and all this stuff.

• 7:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I see the outfit. I go, "Honey, you should take notes from your daughter. That is the perfect first-day outfit I've ever seen."

• 7:07Hannah Berner?

  It's called editorial.

• 7:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, "It's giving classy. It's giving professional, but it's giving whimsy. It's giving I can move."

• 7:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, "I think your daughter's worried about you, babe. I think, I think she's worried how you're going to show up to bring her on her first day." Now, when I was a child, I didn't have that angst because my mom, like, she would walk in as like a chaperone for, like, a field trip. And I would be like, "You other bitches could never..." Like, do you, I would literally look at other girls and be like, "Do you see your mom? Look at my mom."

• 7:44Paige DeSorbo?

  We're not the same here. She's wearing high heels to the apple orchard. We aren't the same. We aren't the same. I'll never forget that bitch's apple orchard outfit. I couldn't believe she showed up and it was perfect.

• 7:55Hannah Berner?

  I can't believe her friends because I, literally, like, two years ago, I started being like, "Oh, I should put an outfit together."

• 8:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's been my whole life. I quit cheerleading my senior year because I wanted to put outfits together for the Friday night football games. I literally go, "I can't be a cheerleader anymore. I have to be creative."

• 8:16Hannah Berner?

  No, you've missed very important Zoom meetings because you're planning your outfits for the week.

• 8:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, if it wasn't on my schedule, I can't just jump to it.

• 8:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, wait. So, when did you fly to Venice?

• 8:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, what day is it? It's Monday.

• 8:33Hannah Berner?

  Because I know you had to leave yesterday, but like, it all gets confusing. You know, we get thrown when Paige was overseas.

• 8:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I flew Fri... Sunday night. My flight was at 9:00 PM. I flew 9:00 PM, landed here Monday morning.

• 8:51Paige DeSorbo?

  But really, it was like 11:00 AM here, but it was like 5:00 AM your time. I couldn't sleep on the flight at all and that is so not me. So, when I was landing, I started like having a panic attack that I...

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  Didn't sleep.

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Have like sleep deprivation and I'm going to like pass out and I'm like, "It's going to be so hot." And then like, I have to take a boat transfer and like, what if I get nauseous?

• 9:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, I'm so dramatic.

• 9:16Hannah Berner?

  No, but everyone talks about, "I'm going to Europe, I'm going to Europe," and I'm like, "It's stressful."

• 9:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, my body really does need to acclimate. Here's the thing about Venice, and I've only been here for a couple hours and most of it in my room because I fell asleep. They're not kidding that you take a boat everywhere. I thought it was a bit. I thought it was a full, I thought it was like optional boat. And then like you could like, you can walk around.

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  I thought the gondola was like Times Square, like you can see Elmo if you want to.

• 9:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought it was optional, okay? No cars. There's no cars.

• 9:49Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did you have to paddle?

• 9:51Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like you just get in like this little like cigarette boat. There's literally spa, it looks like bus stops, but it's for boats. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. It's, I've never been here before. I am, I feel like I'm in a movie. It's quite literally the prettiest place I've ever been. Obviously, I've been to Capri a bunch. This is a different type of beauty. Like Capri feels very vacation. This is like...

• 10:18Hannah Berner?

  Italy.

• 10:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, this is like, oh my god, my ancestors.

• 10:21Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna say, now you're with your people. I do love that you go to the same vacation every year because it's like, no drama, you know what's going on, but I'm like, "Let's see some culture."

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's see some things. My dad would be dying. He'd be like, "But Capri's right over there. Why don't we just go?"

• 10:36Hannah Berner?

  Also, this hotel room, the wooden planks on the, like, it's already, the aesthetic are vibing with it.

• 10:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I wanna like give you, I wanna like give you a tour.

• 10:45Hannah Berner?

  The audio people love this.

• 10:46Paige DeSorbo?

  The bathroom's in there, and then like back there is like the toilet. I'm gonna be honest, the way they set it up...

• 10:53Hannah Berner?

  The feng shui?

• 10:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Not the smartest.

• 10:55Hannah Berner?

  Italians don't do feng shui. No, Italians don't do that.

• 10:59Paige DeSorbo?

  The bathroom is bigger than like the bedroom part, which I'm like, honestly, fine.

• 11:06Hannah Berner?

  You could've used that the last, like, how many vacation?

• 11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I could've used this massive tub. There's two tubs in there. It's, Venice is a very, it feels very honeymoon-ish.

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  Ooh.

• 11:19Paige DeSorbo?

  The only thing is, it's, you're not swimming in that water. Like, I was like, "Oh, do people jump in this?" And they were like, "No, that's disgusting." You don't swim in the Venice water, so I feel like it's not, like, I don't consider it to be a vacation if I'm not putting my bathing suit on and getting, going in water.

• 11:38Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 11:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Anytime people are like, "Oh, I'm going on a ski vacation," I'm going, I'm like, "No, you're going on a ski work trip." That's a work trip. All this shit you gotta pack and put on, that's work.

• 11:48Hannah Berner?

  Talk about accessories. Don't get me started. We did not, we haven't skied because, does Torres ACL because I prayed for it. Um, and here we are.

• 11:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? We probably never will again because now we're with two men that have zero interest in it.

• 12:04Hannah Berner?

  They both have new problems.

• 12:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, if we wanna go on a ski vacation, it would have to be just the two of us.

• 12:10Hannah Berner?

  I think it would be like, we book a show in Aspen and end up being there for like three days and we shop one of the days, and one of the days, we like drink crock chocolate.

• 12:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Done. Glad we wrapped that up. Glad we figured that out.

• 12:22Hannah Berner?

  I can't believe you're in fucking Italy right now. I'm so, I'm like, I can't believe it, but um, I was gallivanting all weekend.

• 12:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Where? I, I feel like I saw that. I didn't check your location, but I saw your Instagram story and you were glam and you were here and you were there.

• 12:40Hannah Berner?

  No, I was, you guys, this is my Mike Allen, the US Open, you know that. And this was my weekend. I did a Lululemon party. Um, and then after the party, I went to another party. Who does that? You know what's crazy about friends? You're my, you're, this, it's a pyramid, right?

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's definitely, oh, and at the top. Did you ever watch Dance Moms?

• 13:02Hannah Berner?

  Actually, you know, I've never watched an episode of Dance Moms.

• 13:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, that was really bratty.

• 13:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You gotta. It's some of the best reality TV.

• 13:12Hannah Berner?

  You gotta. Um, you're at the top of the pyramid. You trickle down, everyone knows about you, everyone talks about you. When anyone asks anything, they have to consider you involved. Anything anyone tells me will be told to you. Anyway.

• 13:24Paige DeSorbo?

  To some people, I'm an imaginary friend. They've never seen me, they've just heard about me.

• 13:28Hannah Berner?

  But you feel your presence always next to me. Like, it's like a ghost. Sometimes people will just talk to you when they're with me. They're like, "Can you tell Paige?" And I'm like, or they'll just ask me about you and I'm just like...

• 13:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a vessel to me.

• 13:42Hannah Berner?

  I'm a literal vessel, a spiritual vessel. Um, but then I have these like, I have my comedy friends who like have saved my life. Like comedy friends, when I'm with them, you know, when you just feel like, oh, these are my people, like they make fun of everything.

• 13:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Can I give you a compliment?

• 14:00Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 14:01Paige DeSorbo?

  You pick great friends. How many bad people have I introduced you to? Some of the worst people you've ever met, I've introduced you. You have, you always find genuine, nice women.

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  Do you know my mom, early on, I remember middle school, I was like complaining about something and she was like, "What if you hung out with people who liked you?"

• 14:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 14:28Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, "That's heavy." I'm seven years old, that was heavy.

• 14:31Paige DeSorbo?

  That's heavy for the fifth grade, yeah, that's heavy.

• 14:34Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, "Well, they just don't like me because they don't know me yet and they haven't seen the sides of me."

• 14:39Hannah Berner?

  Thank you, that's such a nice thing to say. I do think I'm definitely quality over quantity, and also I am better one-on-one. I'm not that great in a group setting.

• 14:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I just feel like anyone you've introduced me to, I've genuinely been like, whether or not like I've kept a friendship with them or not, I've genuinely been like, "That's a really good person." A great example is Haley. Haley's a perfect example of someone where I'm just like, that's probably one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.

• 15:11Hannah Berner?

  That's a little angel. It's just, the friends you keep around you, like their energy, I don't know if this is the right word, but it like bleeds onto you. And like, I cannot have like dirty, fake, weird vibes.

• 15:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Hannah Berner?

  Close to me at all. It's like, I'm just like really sensitive and I'm just like, "Ah."

• 15:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Where like, I'm like...

• 15:30Hannah Berner?

  You can handle more than me, because you could disassociate.

• 15:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I think she's a sociopath, let's find out.

• 15:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, "Do you think she'll skin me and wear me and then date my boyfriend?" Let's see.

• 15:44Hannah Berner?

  Let's hang out with her for a year just to get to the bottom of it. I love a fun, crazy girlfriend to live vicariously through, but a lot of them, I don't care what they do, I like when their heart, their heart is there.

• 15:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 15:58Hannah Berner?

  And then I met the comedy friends and I was like, "Oh, these are my people." Like, this is... They are joking about everything, they're able to be self-aware and laugh at themselves. I'm like, "I love this." But then I forget, like, I have so many friendships from the tennis world that like I just haven't rekindled because I haven't seen. And after this Lululemon party, there was this other party called the Racket Mag Party. The Teen Vogue Party.

• 16:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 16:26Hannah Berner?

  And I was with, um, Ayan, who is Francis Tiafoe's girlfriend who like played tennis for UCLA. Madison Appel, shout out, who um, was number one for Indiana. Like, I'm just with like the most badass tennis girls ever. And I'm like, it's so funny how you, you have different identities and like in that moment, I was like tennis Hannah again. I was like, "We're just some athletes hanging out." We're just, we're just athletes, some former Division One athletes who have, make it their whole personality.

• 16:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like society kind of teaches you, you have one friend group and that's your friend group, and if you don't stay friends with them for the rest of your life, you're kind of a bad person because they've known you. When in reality, I think it's so much nicer to have different friends. Also, in your 30s, it's so different having friends than in your 20s. It's like a complete different life.

• 17:16Hannah Berner?

  But it's also funny how many people from the beginning, like come back around because they were that girl. Like, the people who are meant to stick around will. You don't have to force friendships with people from when you were little.

• 17:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 17:29Hannah Berner?

  What's crazy with tennis though is like, we weren't friends. We actually fucking hated each other. Like, imagine you, it's similar to you with like all the other models that you'd see in your child modeling, how you were like, I'm trying to put it in your perspective.

• 17:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I was gonna say, like, when I see people from other reality shows that I have nothing to do with, I feel like we already have a connection because we both did a reality show.

• 17:59Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but back then, like, I would see all these girls' names on the draw and they were, it was just like they were standing between me and like my dreams.

• 18:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. Oh, okay.

• 18:08Hannah Berner?

  I literally had to fight them for a spot.

• 18:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. The girl that beat me out for the Barbie commercial who then got her own show on Nickelodeon? Yeah.

• 18:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Think about like a ton of Victoria justices in the room, and there were some that I got along with really well, but it was still like looked down upon to like be good friends with girls. It was almost like you were weak, like you weren't tough and you weren't scary. Yeah, you had to walk in and everyone needed to be scared of you. And you know that's not my vibe.

• 18:35Paige DeSorbo?

  So if you were at a tournament and it was like, you, you, would you go into like a girls' locker room?

• 18:41Hannah Berner?

  You would love the vibe of a tournament. Everyone has their own outfit, like you get to wear whatever you want. And you walk in and you're with like your dad or your coach and you just wait around for your name to be called. And then you and the girl don't say a word to each other, get the balls and go on the court and battle it out.

• 18:58Paige DeSorbo?

  So where are you prior to the court waiting?

• 19:01Hannah Berner?

  The, you're just like in a tennis club, so like you're all just like, not talking to each other in the tennis club waiting. And like you're warming up, sometimes you intimidate people by like doing some crazy warm-up.

• 19:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Was there ever like fights in terms of outfits or like, she always wears her hair, like?

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  Well, there would be like, every now and then a girl would like get sponsored by Nike. So like the girls that got sponsored by Nike or Adidas, like one day they'd walk in like wearing the outfit that like Marisha Povich just wore at the US Open and you were like, "Oh, she's that girl."

• 19:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay, interesting. Yeah. Wow, okay, okay.

• 19:38Hannah Berner?

  So like she was wearing all the best stuff, where sometimes, you know me, I'd be sure I'd say this tournament's wild. With a Sophie short and like a ripped shirt.

• 19:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Are there any rules on things you can't wear?

• 19:52Hannah Berner?

  I don't believe so.

• 19:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Can you not wear a baggy t-shirt?

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  I don't believe so. There's some rules like in tournaments where like you can't wear logos that are too big and Wimbledon you have to wear white, but like.

• 20:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wimbledon, you have to wear all white?

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  You knew that.

• 20:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't.

• 20:07Hannah Berner?

  You knew that.

• 20:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe I knew that and it was deep in my brain, but I love that.

• 20:10Hannah Berner?

  I think that's why you first fell in love with the sport and you forgot how you first fell in love with it.

• 20:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, no, I think I first fell in love that I realized it was all grass. Like it was all greenery.

• 20:20Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me, I love a plant. I love oxygen.

• 20:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, it's giving wedding aesthetic. I love.

• 20:27Hannah Berner?

  It's giving the background of a brunch wedding.

• 20:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Has anyone ever gotten married at Wimbledon?

• 20:33Hannah Berner?

  That's a really good question. It's also very, you like it because it's like impossible to come, become a member of the Wimbledon tennis club. Like you have to win Wimbledon to be like invited, or you have to be like, your dad had to like invent London.

• 20:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Toasted strudels.

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  You like the explosivity of it. Um.

• 20:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:51Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, long story short, I walk into a rack and mag party and you know me, the second I walk to a party, I'm like, we gotta get out of here.

• 20:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:57Hannah Berner?

  But immediately I see some kid, guy Gary, who I literally trained with in Brooklyn and he's just like, Hannah. I'm like, Gary?

• 21:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Shout out Gary.

• 21:07Hannah Berner?

  I see this guy Kahari, who played on the Beacon Boys Tennis Team with me, runs up to me, gives me a bear hug and immediately I'm like a kid again. Just like a tennis player. Like I could cry talking about it and I'm just seeing all these faces. Then I'm seeing these girls who like, I, they're tennis influencers now who I follow. And I'm like, I know you played for UCLA, like this girl Chanel. And I'm like, I've always like looked up to you. And she's like, I saw your name in the drawers too. Like it's so cool what you're up to. And I'm like, dude, your tennis was crazy, right? We just like had this like out of cult moment where I was like, I know that we never talked to each other before, but like,

• 21:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:46Hannah Berner?

  I love you. Like I'm so proud of you. Like I'm so proud of these girls.

• 21:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Once like you have children and then you like run into someone from high school in the grocery store, it's like that vibe.

• 21:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, where you're like,

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, where'd your life go? Congrats.

• 22:02Hannah Berner?

  No, I was so proud of everyone, but it was just so cool to feel community in like different places. Cause there was a moment where it was just the gigglers. That's all I had.

• 22:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:12Hannah Berner?

  That's all I was.

• 22:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's honestly, that's all I actually want.

• 22:16Hannah Berner?

  That's all I need.

• 22:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually don't want any outside groups coming in.

• 22:20Hannah Berner?

  Done. The next day I drove to DC and by drove, I mean,

• 22:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Got driven.

• 22:25Hannah Berner?

  Aiden and Dez drove me to DC for a wedding. My first wedding of the summer.

• 22:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't know you had a wedding this past weekend.

• 22:34Hannah Berner?

  I know I was, and then we drove back that night.

• 22:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 22:38Hannah Berner?

  I know. It was a lot, but a giggler came up to me. She was like, hey, what are you doing here?

• 22:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It's actually is funny when you see gigglers out in the wild doing like the most mundane thing.

• 22:48Hannah Berner?

  No, she was like, what are you doing at this random family wedding right now in Washington DC?

• 22:52Paige DeSorbo?

  That's nice though, that Dez doesn't drink, so he could drive home.

• 22:55Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say shout out to Dez and Aiden. Do you know what they did?

• 22:58Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 22:59Hannah Berner?

  Aiden put on Dolly Parton the whole ride and he's like obsessed with Dolly Parton and just like saying Dolly Parton and talks about how amazing she is the whole time.

• 23:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, after 30 minutes, that pissed me off.

• 23:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Two hour, two and a half hours of Dolly Parton. Okay, I love her. Okay, Jesus.

• 23:17Hannah Berner?

  By the way, I sat in the back, they sat in the front. They were like, yeah, car ride. I went full Uber driver. They tried talking to me. I was like, no, thank you. No talk.

• 23:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to lay down, put your headphones on.

• 23:30Hannah Berner?

  Lay down, didn't say a word. They were like, are you okay? And I was like, I put no talking on the Uber app. Like please leave me alone. So yeah, the wedding was fun. I did a little dancing, speeches. But I just, you went to more weddings this summer than me.

• 23:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so sick of weddings. I really, there's literally, I don't want to go to any weddings next year. I have one wedding. My girlfriend Ariana, next summer in Greece. That is like the only wedding I want to go to

• 24:02Paige DeSorbo?

  from now till then.

• 24:03Hannah Berner?

  I did. It was a church wedding too. And I haven't been in a church in a minute. Um, long, long sermons.

• 24:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Can I say something that's like a bit controversial and like people might look at me differently? But I'm just gonna like speak my truth.

• 24:19Hannah Berner?

  You love a church wedding.

• 24:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I do love a church wedding. I definitely will have a church wedding. As someone who like travels with rosary beads. Yeah, obviously. I actually was packing my bag to go to the airport and I was like, Hannah would die laughing. I have like a rosary beads case with rosaries in them and like a little handkerchief that my grandma gave me that I think was her mom's.

• 24:42Hannah Berner?

  That's beautiful.

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  So I have that. But then I also have another rosary bead case that has this like little charm lock on it that my grandpa gave me and I travel with both those items. And I used to keep them in my car because I feel like wherever I go, they protect me. Anyway, that's like a, not even.

• 25:00Hannah Berner?

  That's a whole nother podcast.

• 25:01Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a whole nother podcast.

• 25:04Paige DeSorbo?

  At weddings, I, and like I've been, obviously I've been to family weddings. I've been to like close friends weddings. I've been to like, I'm the plus one. I don't know anyone at this wedding. It does not matter what the wedding is. I don't feel comfortable dancing, ever. I don't care who I'm with. I don't care who my date is. I don't care like how comfortable I am at the wedding.

• 25:27Hannah Berner?

  How drunk you are.

• 25:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It doesn't really ever cross my mind to get on the dance floor.

• 25:33Hannah Berner?

  At my wedding, at some point, there was like a crazy grind line where someone's feet were being held in the air and like there was, and you were, I remember seeing you just like, you were sitting on your.

• 25:45Paige DeSorbo?

  That's insane.

• 25:46Hannah Berner?

  I have a traumatizing wedding dance story. It's not, it's not that traumatizing, but I just remember I was like 17 and you know, like actually that's like the weirdest age to be at a wedding. Cause you're like,

• 25:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so weird. You're like, what do I know?

• 25:58Hannah Berner?

  I just remember being like, I don't want to dance. Like I was like, do you want to dance? And you're like, oh, I was gonna work on the dancing.

• 26:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:04Hannah Berner?

  I tried to dance, I think. And then I like came down, sat down and my mom was on the dance floor and I was sitting with my dad and my dad goes, look how mom dances.

• 26:13Hannah Berner?

  He goes, you see how she moves her hips? That's how you need to learn how to dance. And I was like, what the fuck?

• 26:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, maybe it's because I don't think, consider myself a dancer. Like I don't consider myself a good dancer. That maybe that's my insecurity, but I don't, but then I look at people and I'm like, okay, well I couldn't dance as well as that person. So it's not that. I just think it's like, I don't know what it is in me that I'm just like, I don't want to.

• 26:40Hannah Berner?

  Wait, no one talks about dance anxiety. It's so fucking real. And I feel it the second I hit the dance floor. I'm like, everyone's staring at me right now. And then I'm like, that was, oh, I didn't hit that.

• 26:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's staring at me.

• 26:50Hannah Berner?

  Didn't hit that. Oh, then I didn't hit that. And then like Bad Bunny comes on and I'm like, oh, no, I said, I don't know if I can.

• 26:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I just like feel, I feel more comfortable being like at the bar and mingling.

• 27:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 27:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Than I do going on the dance floor.

• 27:04Hannah Berner?

  You guys know Dez loves dancing.

• 27:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Does he?

• 27:07Hannah Berner?

  He did Dancing with the Stars in Ireland. You guys should all Google it. It's a crazy era in his life.

• 27:13Paige DeSorbo?

  So when you get to a wedding and you see like, okay, come on, let's get on the dance floor?

• 27:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So then I was talking to a giggler, obviously, and I'm looking at him, middle of the dance floor, going crazy, starting to sweat, waving me over. I'm pretending I can't see him. And he keeps waving me over.

• 27:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm dying in that moment.

• 27:29Hannah Berner?

  And I'm like in a deep conversation with the giggler and I'm like,

• 27:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:32Hannah Berner?

  Mom is working right now. And then finally I'm like, fine. As I go over, the crowd, like he's, everyone's like, yeah, come in. They start opening it. Next you know, I'm in the middle of a circle.

• 27:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 27:44Hannah Berner?

  And I, I look at him in the eye, like my eyes were scared. I was like, I did not sign up to be the middle of the circle. I signed in to like be on the side dancing. Middle of the circle is so scary because the only move I have is the worm. Otherwise like, what do you do in the middle of the circle?

• 27:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And you can't bust out the worm at not a close friend's wedding.

• 28:02Hannah Berner?

  This is Dez's friend's wedding. This is not even my friend's.

• 28:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 28:08Hannah Berner?

  Like my friend's wedding, anything I do, they're like, no, that was funny Hannah. This is who, what the fuck's going on? Who let that girl on the dance floor?

• 28:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Even though you're his wife, essentially as a plus one at a wedding, I feel like it's your duty to kind of like, I don't think you should stand out.

• 28:27Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent.

• 28:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think you get in the middle of the floor and you're commanding the room because at some point people are gonna go, who is this person?

• 28:34Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent. And yeah, like I don't need to be dancing, you know, with the mom and the grandma in the middle doing like, they were like Greek and we started doing like a Greek, I was teaching people Greek, like, but look, if you have fun, you have fun. And

• 28:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 28:48Hannah Berner?

  There's some people that you should hire for your weddings, like that are just really good wedding guests. Like they add to the vibe. It takes one person to make a wedding fun.

• 28:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I was thinking about that because I was like, I don't, for my own future wedding, I don't want to kill the vibe of the dance floor. And I was like, what if I just hired actors? That were like dancers that like got people to dance.

• 29:15Hannah Berner?

  In the Hamptons, we met Maurice through Southampton Social and he is the most fun, amazing guy ever, who I stayed in touch with. And for my wedding, obviously he was invited. When I tell you he made my wedding?

• 29:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:28Hannah Berner?

  Like Maurice was the DJ, the hose, the dancer, the greeter. Like he did everything.

• 29:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Who was your DJ? I don't remember who did your music.

• 29:37Hannah Berner?

  I got like a cool girl DJ and the music was good. Anyway, oh my God, it was so long ago.

• 29:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, it feels so long ago.

• 29:47Hannah Berner?

  I was like, was that one wedding? It's like, I don't even remember. You guys, I picked the first dress I picked out in a strip mall. Like this was a different time.

• 29:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That was like a fever dream. Like I don't, that is cra- you're married.

• 30:02Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I, I got announced yesterday. They were like, "And next is Hannah Berner, who resides in the Lower East Side with her cat Butter." And I was like, "Definitely have a husband."

• 30:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have a question. Has Dez ever said anything beca- have you ever had a conversation about changing your last name?

• 30:18Hannah Berner?

  We've talked about the concept of it, but he, he knew. I mean, we've talked about, I was like, "Can our kids have my last name?"

• 30:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, would you, okay. Okay, you took it one step further, okay. As someone who has thought about changing my last name my whole life, like literally even when I was like 10 years old, I'd be like, "And isn't it crazy? I won't always be Paige De Sorbo."

• 30:40Hannah Berner?

  We're so different. I literally was like, "My name is Berner. It'll always be Berner. No one's gonna take that from me."

• 30:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be like, "What do you think my last name will be? Be?" And my mom would be like, "I don't know, but right now it's De Sorbo." Now, at 33, "Honey, I'm Paige De Sorbo. I am no one else." "I am Paige De Sorbo, and those kids can have his last name, fine. I don't really even know those kids yet." "So, I am fine with that." "But my name, "I don't want to change it anymore," which I never thought, never, even if you asked me like five years ago, "Are you gonna change your last name?" I'd be like, "Well, yeah."

• 31:19Hannah Berner?

  It's so crazy. You've changed a lot over the last three years. Through this podcast.

• 31:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I've changed a lot. I've changed a lot through this pod. When I did Morgan Stewart, "I was talking about our tour and how like transformational it was for me as a woman." "Our tour and your bachelorette party were two really pivotal moments "in my womanhood."

• 31:42Hannah Berner?

  Because you did a photo shoot the whole bachelorette?

• 31:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I just felt myself and like...

• 31:48Hannah Berner?

  You were like, "I just felt like "it was finally time for everyone to celebrate me."

• 31:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was like, "Finally, my time to shine," you know? "I'll never forget that green sparkly dress. I think about that green sparkly dress all the time. I can't find it."

• 32:01Hannah Berner?

  You're like, "Finally, women embraced me as I am truly." And you were there. People have been re-listening to the pod from the beginning. Someone was like, and I was like, "Are we like really fucking stupid in the beginning?" And then they like kind of paused and I'm like, "Have we actually evolved and changed at all?" And she was like, "Not really."

• 32:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and thank God. And thank God. Imagine now, imagine we like evolved into like, this is like a news podcast or something? No, even like when we have children, like I don't want to talk about them.

• 32:34Hannah Berner?

  No, they're gonna be like Dez. We're like, "They'll be mentioned."

• 32:37Paige DeSorbo?

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• 33:49Hannah Berner?

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• 34:58Paige DeSorbo?

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• 35:22Hannah Berner?

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• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

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• 37:46Paige DeSorbo?

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• 38:29Hannah Berner?

  I went to the US Open last night, "and when you get there now, like, the US Open wasn't like this. Now it's like, you get out and there's immediately a red carpet." "And someone asked me, like, interview was, like, 'Where's Paige?'" "And I was like, 'Paige isn't Benas. She couldn't make it. She was supposed to be here with me.'" "But I ended up watching the Novak Djokovic match and he like puked the whole time."

• 38:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I saw that on my Instagram.

• 38:54Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I was, we're sitting there watching.

• 38:56Paige DeSorbo?

  The headline was like, "His body betrayed him." I was like, "Oh, okay, but when I do it..." It's like, maybe you're weak.

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  No, I like, he walked to the side and I'm like, I can see him from there and I'm like, he just puked and Des is like, there's no way he just puked. I'm like, I saw water come out of his mouth.

• 39:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow. I wonder what was going on.

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  Dehydration, cra- who knows, but it was like, just watching a man.

• 39:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe he was anxious.

• 39:22Hannah Berner?

  Looks like he was gonna faint, like the whole thing, so, but it was beautiful. It was very fun.

• 39:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Done there, done that. And he lost quickly?

• 39:28Hannah Berner?

  In five sets. No, in five sets. It was a five hour match. We didn't even get to see Venus Williams. We had to leave because it was past Des's bedtime.

• 39:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, what time did they go on?

• 39:39Hannah Berner?

  Like at midnight. Also Venus is like in her 40s. They made it go on at midnight.

• 39:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, wait, wait. Wait.

• 39:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And then played for how long?

• 39:48Hannah Berner?

  Probably two hours.

• 39:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 39:51Hannah Berner?

  No, tennis is, the sport is insane, like.

• 39:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Why wouldn't they just be like, okay, back tomorrow morning?

• 39:57Hannah Berner?

  Because there's a whole schedule and it affects the whole draw, but Venus definitely was like, are you fucking kidding?

• 40:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I feel like that's a go crazy disadvantage.

• 40:07Hannah Berner?

  Well, but no other sport, I mean golf takes forever, yeah, but like, it's not the same kind of physical stuff. Tennis, you could, you could play a five hour match, just you running for five hours.

• 40:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you so much for bringing that up because I saw like this, this golf thing the other day. They were interviewing someone and it was like a golfer that I'd like recognize, but I saw an interview with him and I was like, oh my god, he got so old. Like, I guess I haven't seen him in like years, whatever. I don't even know what his name is. Irrelevant. But then they were showing like other golfers that are like top golfers right now and I'm like, I'm like, wait a minute.

• 40:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I look in the mirror every single day and I look at my body and I think, how could you be better? And that's the plight that women have to bear. That's the burden that we live with. And I'm looking at these men and I'm like, never once you thought, hmm, I'm a professional athlete, maybe I'll lay off the Oreos this week. I mean, it's shocking Hannah. It's actually shocking. Is there another sport where you don't have to be physically fit at all? I mean, at all. These men, I'm like, how many beers you put down last night? That is a crazy gut if I've ever seen one. You're only 35. What is your excuse?

• 41:16Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna have an argument. If you have to wear a belt when you play, it's not a real sport.

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm gonna concur with that. As someone who's never played a sport, but has worn a belt, I concur.

• 41:28Hannah Berner?

  And I love golf, but it's, it's more of a sport skill than like a full sport.

• 41:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I just feel like if there's a chance, not saying I would win, but if there's a chance I could beat you in a race, I don't think that you're a professional athlete.

• 41:43Hannah Berner?

  Well Paige, you're very fast. You're very fast.

• 41:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, as the fastest girl in the fourth grade, I, I understand that, but I just thought it was, I was just looking at them and I was like, oh my god, it must be so nice to be a professional male golfer because you don't have any body dysmorphia at all and you don't have, you don't have like a body standard.

• 42:03Hannah Berner?

  You also get to just like fuck off your family for seven hours because you're doing a job and playing with your boys and then traveling the world and like never calling your kids.

• 42:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kinda crazy. But anyway.

• 42:18Hannah Berner?

  I recorded a podcast with Maria Sharapova yesterday and I'm still processing.

• 42:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw that on your Instagram. So it was a live recording of a pod?

• 42:28Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so.

• 42:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Your outfit was?

• 42:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, thank you. It was a Zimmerman set that I found online.

• 42:35Paige DeSorbo?

  You looked like a professional tennis player who was coming to give a talk.

• 42:40Hannah Berner?

  So I'm such a nerd that I was like, I know Maria Sharapova's fashion style. Like, even in this era of her life, like I know what she likes to wear. And I was like, she would wear this? And I walked in. And she complimented my outfit and I was like, honestly, I was trying to channel you. And she immediately starts joking. She's like, I mean, I would have tucked in the shirt. And immediately I'm like, I fucking love her. This is Maria Sharapova, by the way. This is one of the greatest tennis players to ever play the game, who raised me, even though she's like three years older than me.

• 43:14Paige DeSorbo?

  If someone ever said that to me, I would have started crying.

• 43:16Hannah Berner?

  No, no. We immediately start busting each other's balls. Because look, when you meet really famous people, there are all kind of energies that you get.

• 43:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 43:25Hannah Berner?

  And I've, you leave the room sometimes being like, wow, like I didn't even make eye contact with her.

• 43:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like that was weird. That was scary.

• 43:32Hannah Berner?

  Like they really did not want to make eye contact with me and then you think it's your fault?

• 43:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I think I threw up after I interviewed Martha Stewart. I was like, that was the scariest thing I've ever done in my fucking life.

• 43:44Hannah Berner?

  And by the way, Maria Sharapova is known to be like intimidating on the court. That's her whole thing. Like she never smiles. She's, she's got the Slavic energy. She's, she's serious. And strongest mental, she's incredible. And I immediately were like joking and laughing and then I didn't realize it, it was her first ever live show. Her first ever live podcast.

• 44:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh wow.

• 44:10Hannah Berner?

  This is so Maria Sharapova, wasn't nervous at all. Like just, like didn't even mention to me, was just standing there.

• 44:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think there's any tennis players that take beta blockers?

• 44:18Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if you could do it like during a physical activity like tennis. I don't know if it affects like the oxygen to your brain.

• 44:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Interesting.

• 44:26Hannah Berner?

  Because I've thought about it, but I think they're on like SSRIs for sure.

• 44:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to know what the professional athletes are doing when they get anxious.

• 44:34Hannah Berner?

  Also Maria Sharapova, so savage. The podcast begins, she's interviewing me, which by the way, is the weirdest thing ever. And she goes, this is a quote from you. I'm now in standup comedy, but my dream was to win Wimbledon. I go, okay.

• 44:54Hannah Berner?

  Okay, right to the heart. So then I just look at her and I go, um, yeah, what was it like to win Wimbledon? And she goes, felt pretty fucking good.

• 45:04Hannah Berner?

  And we're just like, literally making fun of each other.

• 45:06Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so your type of friend.

• 45:09Hannah Berner?

  I knew I was gonna be enamored by her. I didn't know I was gonna fucking vibe with her. Like the chemistry was just so fucking fun. Like I just wanted her not be annoyed by me and then it got into, I was like, it felt like I was with a sister. I don't mean to like make you jealous.

• 45:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's okay because that's how I felt about Morgan Stewart.

• 45:30Hannah Berner?

  About Martha Stewart?

• 45:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Morgan Stewart.

• 45:33Hannah Berner?

  I just said Martha Stewart. I was like.

• 45:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Martha definitely didn't vibe with me, that's for sure. That's on camera.

• 45:39Hannah Berner?

  Martha was disgusted by you.

• 45:40Paige DeSorbo?

  But when I met Morgan, I was like so nervous and then I was like, wait, we're friends. I was like, we have the same personality.

• 45:48Hannah Berner?

  When someone makes you feel like you could be yourself, how like immediately you stop being a weirdo and.

• 45:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:55Hannah Berner?

  I spent an hour with her and like, just the effect she had, if you Google Mars, um, Mars, Maria Sharapova.

• 46:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:04Hannah Berner?

  She, her fashion is next level. She also came on, like she's blonde, she's like this 6'2" Russian, but she like knew herself and every girl wanted to be Maria Sharapova growing up.

• 46:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Did she grow up in Russia or she grew up here?

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  She was born in Russia and then at a very young age, her parents like put all their money into, like imagine being like, we're putting everything into this like six year old girl. And I was with her manager, her agent. He's been her agent since, since she was 11 years old.

• 46:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 46:40Hannah Berner?

  I was like, how did you know she was the one? He's like, I looked at the tennis academy and you knew, you're like, she's gonna do it. And like four years, five years later, she won Wimbledon.

• 46:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, good for her.

• 46:49Hannah Berner?

  But it's crazy, she's 39 and she's lived so much life.

• 46:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, okay. So Chelsea Handler's always been friends with Maria Sharapova. And like, I would see Chelsea Handler in her box, watching her matches and that I thought was like the coolest thing. I've talked about this, but like I just need to reiterate. And then Maria Sharapova on the pod, it comes out on Wednesday, pretty tough pod, um, but she tells this story that is so funny about Chelsea Handler, which is so Chelsea, so Chelsea. Chelsea goes to the Olympics in London like 10 years ago with her. Now for Chelsea, obviously this is a vacation. This is fun. We're drinking Pimms. And she puts her in the players box. Now in the players box, at the front is the coaches, who are like coaching, right?

• 47:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 47:36Hannah Berner?

  She says she looks at her players box, Chelsea Handler's next to her coach, yapping, cracking jokes, making fun of him, drinking, probably on drugs, um, leaving, coming back, like just chaos. And Maria Sharapova's like, what is she doing? But Sharapova wins the match and is like superstitious. So she's like, hey Chelsea, you have to do that for the next, like the whole tournament. You have to sit there. So then Chelsea stays the whole tournament and in the finals, Sharapova loses to Serena. And she said, Chelsea came up to her afterwards and said, what the fuck was that?

• 48:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my gosh.

• 48:13Hannah Berner?

  But anyway, shout out to girls, girls, cuz that is the kind of support I wanna have for women.

• 48:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, shout out to women in sports and women supporting women in sports and Chelsea Handler.

• 48:27Hannah Berner?

  And Chelsea Handler. And by the way, Chelsea, she is that girl, like she's that person who will support you even if she's drunk.

• 48:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's important.

• 48:35Hannah Berner?

  And that's important because

• 48:36Paige DeSorbo?

  That's really important in our society.

• 48:38Hannah Berner?

  We're not always in our right minds.

• 48:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Cuz I've had a lot of people who get drunk and don't support me. I've had the exact opposite happen in pretty much every relationship I've been in.

• 48:48Hannah Berner?

  But anyway, now I'm trying to put together a text back to Maria Sharapova. I don't know what to do, but like I'll, I'll deal with that on my own time.

• 48:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that. Okay, awesome.

• 48:57Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. Thank you.

• 48:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you. Thank you for that dissertation.

• 49:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I was really excited to tell everyone about it. Um, what, are you excited for the next couple of days?

• 49:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm very excited for the next couple of days. Josephine has me, has a schedule for me running. She wants to see this. She wants to go here. She wants to try this restaurant. We should get pictures over here. So I'm just like gonna go by her schedule. I flew in a day early than I needed to be here because I really, my body's so sensitive. I really needed to just like relax and unpack my clothes and make sure I had all my outfits ready and like, one thing Hannah, there's no shower in my room.

• 49:40Hannah Berner?

  Cuz they want you to bathe and eat like tortellini?

• 49:43Paige DeSorbo?

  There's two tubs next to each other, okay?

• 49:47Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they want you to hold hands with your romantic partner.

• 49:50Paige DeSorbo?

  So there's a bathroom over here, right? It's two tubs, two sinks. You think, sure, where's the toilet? You have to come out of the bathroom, round a corner. There's another bathroom, just the toilet and a sink.

• 50:04Hannah Berner?

  And no shower.

• 50:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And no shower. I'm like, guys, you had so many opportunities. So many water lines are running through this place.

• 50:16Hannah Berner?

  We have a bath, we have a toilet. What should we do with the third one? Another bath. I can't tell you the last time I bathed. I'm not a bather. I don't bathe. I'll do a hot tub. I'll live in a hot tub.

• 50:30Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I try, I actually try and take a bath once a month. I think it's good. Coming, I come from a household where my mom took a bath every single Saturday.

• 50:41Hannah Berner?

  That's so camcoted.

• 50:43Paige DeSorbo?

  She got the bath going. She did whatever her like lotions and potions were. She shaved. She must've been going out.

• 50:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That little slut. She must've been going out every Saturday night now that I think about it when I was younger.

• 51:00Hannah Berner?

  And she would do this before going out?

• 51:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she would like get ready all day on Saturday. She'd get out of the tub and then she'd do her hair and then she'd do her makeup and I would just be like, what is she doing? But now I like don't remember.

• 51:11Hannah Berner?

  Why is moms putting on lotion like the most comforting memory?

• 51:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I think because that is the first woman you know. Like, so like everything she does, yeah, everything she does is like low-key soothing to you.

• 51:30Hannah Berner?

  You know, Maria Sharapova, my, your mom?

• 51:34Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom.

• 51:34Hannah Berner?

  No, my literal sister, Maria. She, um, was, a lot of tennis players are perfectionists and she was saying that having a kid, she has one kid, is the one thing that's helped her with her perfectionism cuz she's like, you cannot control what's going on.

• 51:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 51:51Hannah Berner?

  You can, you can plan what you want. You can try to make everything go as planned and go right, but the kid is just gonna be like, go fuck yourself.

• 52:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Do it, yeah, do whatever it wants.

• 52:02Hannah Berner?

  As a non-mom, when you hear moms be like, it's horrible, but it's perfect and it's the worst, but it's the best, I think it's the challenges of it that actually help you grow. I'm trying to figure it out.

• 52:15Paige DeSorbo?

  As a non-mom, thank God. I don't have the bandwidth right now.

• 52:21Hannah Berner?

  Does anyone?

• 52:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I couldn't think of the worst thing to happen to me than have a baby today.

• 52:26Hannah Berner?

  Someone said, they were like, whatever you're going through, just be like, at least I'm not pregnant. And then to all the gigglers that are pregnant listening to this,

• 52:34Hannah Berner?

  you're perfect. We love you.

• 52:35Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:59Paige DeSorbo?

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• 54:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:08Paige DeSorbo?

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• 56:26Hannah Berner?

  One thing about me is with the new season, I like to have a new personality. You never have to stick to one personality and people don't talk about it enough.

• 56:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person, okay? The weather totally changes how you feel and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 56:47Hannah Berner?

  And part of rebranding is getting new clothes and that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before, whether it's denim, such as an angled barrel jean. I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more.

• 57:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a, a creative director of somewhere.

• 57:09Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 57:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner. I, I'm having a time.

• 57:23Hannah Berner?

  And then people forget that on Revolve, there's also beauty. Um, they have menswear, they have home, and they have Forward Renew, which is pre-owned luxury handbags and you know how much we love vintage.

• 57:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been recently loving Helsa's stuff. I feel like the first place I go to look is Revolve. And the number one thing I love about Revolve is order a bunch of stuff. Try it on in the comfort of your home. Easiest return ever. It's the only place I shop that I don't feel bad ordering extra stuff because I'm like, I have the luxury of trying it on and having the easiest returns.

• 58:00Hannah Berner?

  And the shipping is so fast. And if you're like me and you don't know what you're doing two days from now and then you're like, oh shit, I have a huge important dinner, use Revolve. It's so fast and it's curated. So the website's really easy. I have been recently obsessed with, um, just like Norma Kamali. The capris that she has are so cute for fall, so comfy, stretchy, and perfect.

• 58:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 59:10Paige DeSorbo?

  meeting someone where you're like, what is their vibe gonna be? And I, she was so down to earth and normal, it actually was like shocking to me.

• 59:20Hannah Berner?

  I feel like she's purposely been like, I don't want to be in the public eye as much, it's annoying me.

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like the, one of the most normal people ever, like, I forget, they like asked her to do something and they're like, is it okay if like, do you want someone else to do it? And she was like, no, obvi- like, I can do it. Like, it was just like, I forget what it even was, but she was just very down to earth. But this year, it's live, so it's like,

• 59:44Paige DeSorbo?

  the past two seasons, we've recorded it for an, like, an hour and a half. So like, there were times where I could stop and we could reset and like-

• 59:52Hannah Berner?

  Cut the break.

• 59:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, cut things out, add things, whatever.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  Forget people's names.

• 59:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a very different vibe this year, and so like, we're live, but like, she knows the segments that we're doing and like, it's only for 30 minutes, so it's actually not that bad.

• 1:00:09Paige DeSorbo?

  So whatever, we're chatting and we start talking about Daphne, and she's like, oh my god, wait, I have a gift for you. And she just like says like, can someone get my bag? And in my head, I'm like, wait, we're live and the, I know for a fact, the Amazon team is like, oh, what do we do?

• 1:00:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, someone get her blue Chanel sparkly bag! We have seven seconds. So they get her bag and they bring it over and she's like opening it and she like hands me this gift and I open the gift. Hannah, she has a jewelry line, she made me a ring with Kitty's face on it. It's like my new favorite ring and I put it on, she goes, your fingers are so skinny. And I said, thank you so much for noticing. She goes, no, no, really, I'm gonna get you one that fits. What is your ring size? I've never even, I go, well, it's a four, but, she goes, what? Like, people think I'm lying when I say that, but I'm, so anyway, me and Nikki Hilton have friendship rings with our cats on them. And tune into In Bed with Paige De Sorbo.

• 1:01:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I, my next guest in September, well, it's up in the air, we'll see what happens.

• 1:01:13Hannah Berner?

  How do you like, um, interviewing live?

• 1:01:16Paige DeSorbo?

  It's, it's more pressure because I feel like there's more pressure on me to like, think of something funny after. Cause like, it's boring if you're just watching us talk about bed and you're not laughing. So I feel like I have to like, add in jokes where when we tape it, sometimes I feel like I can think of a joke for longer, where when it's live, it's like, quick. And I'm like, this, is this episode gonna be boring? So I'm, it's a little bit nerve wracking, but I talk to myself for 30 minutes live all the time on Amazon. So I know I can be live for 30 minutes, but a lot of people are never, have never live. Like, when else would they be live?

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:58Paige DeSorbo?

  How many times can I say live? Jesus.

• 1:02:01Hannah Berner?

  Take a shot every time. I feel also like sometimes with comedy, when you have a little pressure, you could be funnier. Because you don't have time to like overthink the joke, you just have to like, get it the first time.

• 1:02:14Paige DeSorbo?

  After it was over, I was like, great, and I never have to think about this episode again because it's already out there. Like, I don't have to be like, what are the teasers? What are we clipping? Like, it's done.

• 1:02:24Hannah Berner?

  I love that, I love that.

• 1:02:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So that was nice, that is nice.

• 1:02:26Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, we've had, we had two like crazy weekends. I can't wait to see the Venice footage.

• 1:02:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And we're going to a fashion show together, like a cool one, next Friday.

• 1:02:37Hannah Berner?

  You guys, we're doing Fashion Week for a day together.

• 1:02:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Heck yeah. Friday, we're going to the Wiederhaft Show.

• 1:02:46Hannah Berner?

  Wiederhaft.

• 1:02:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Very excited.

• 1:02:49Hannah Berner?

  I've been a fan. You wore them on Fallon, they're like, you know, I love, one thing about me, I love a corset. And one thing about you, you love Bridgerton.

• 1:02:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's where we combined.

• 1:02:59Hannah Berner?

  That's where we combined.

• 1:03:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's our Venn diagram.

• 1:03:03Hannah Berner?

  Cause I love a little snatch in the waist. Um, but yeah, I, I'm excited for a day to be running around New York with you.

• 1:03:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I love, I love outfits that really accentuate the female body. I think that's like, I think that's why we love a corset. You love like-

• 1:03:20Hannah Berner?

  Showing your curves.

• 1:03:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, showing a female body. We love it. Not a golf body, not a male golf body.

• 1:03:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, someone DM me and they said that they're, that all men's body standard is Mark Wahlberg. I said, wow, that actually is a good one.

• 1:03:39Hannah Berner?

  But he's also 5'7".

• 1:03:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And it gives them hope.

• 1:03:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's also inspirational.

• 1:03:46Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you wanna hear something funny about men's golf?

• 1:03:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Always.

• 1:03:49Hannah Berner?

  They're not allowed to wear shorts. They have to wear pants.

• 1:03:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause they don't like their knees?

• 1:03:55Hannah Berner?

  Someone said my knees are kinda white and pale. Who was like, okay, we're gonna play this sport, but I swear to god, if anyone wears shorts, I'm gonna freak the fuck out.

• 1:04:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Golf has so many made up ridiculous loser rules. My brother said that golf stands for gentlemen only, ladies forbidden. Is that true?

• 1:04:12Hannah Berner?

  No, but like, good, good definitely believes that.

• 1:04:16Paige DeSorbo?

  What does it stand for then?

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  He probably made that up, but like, it's, it's probably a coincidence and then like men ran with it. But, do you know, I was, I played tennis with my old men the other week. And one of them was like, you know, I belong to this like fancy tennis club, like you should check it out. And he said what the club was, and the other guy was like, are women allowed in that club? I felt like I was in, um, high school tennis again on the boys team where I was like, do I have to fucking be every single one of you? Like, what do you mean, do, are women allowed?

• 1:04:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, is that still real? Like, there are really-

• 1:04:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, these old school Hamptons clubs, like, I remember, I told you, my best friend Becca, she's a lesbian and an incredible athlete, and she's the first ever member of her golf club that is a woman. It's normally the husband that brings the wife, so they didn't know what to do with her.

• 1:05:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know why, it just sounded like,

• 1:05:14Paige DeSorbo?

  she's not a lesbian because she's incredible at being an athlete. And she's not an athlete because she's a lesbian, okay?

• 1:05:23Hannah Berner?

  Is it the chicken or the egg? She's very athletic and happens to also be a lesbian.

• 1:05:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Or be a lesbian, but they're not correlated, how dare you? Um-

• 1:05:32Hannah Berner?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:05:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:05:34Hannah Berner?

  They didn't know how to like submit her application, cause they were like, but who's the man? And she was like, I'm the man one.

• 1:05:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate people, I really do. I'm just like, you're stupid. That's crazy.

• 1:05:46Hannah Berner?

  On a lighter note, I just had the thought, you know, I like to just bring up a random thought every now and then. And my thought was, I thought I was gonna have to keep an eye out more in my life for whoopee cushions.

• 1:06:00Hannah Berner?

  Really, when you're younger, they really make it seem like at any time you get to sit on a whoopee cushion. I haven't seen one whoopee cushion in like, a decade.

• 1:06:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you wanna know what? Ain't shit funny about a prank these days? No one's pranking. No one's pranking anymore.

• 1:06:16Hannah Berner?

  Honey!

• 1:06:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I think no one's pranking because shit is really, it's like, it's not funny.

• 1:06:22Hannah Berner?

  It's like, we're in a haunted house, we don't have to like scare people already in the haunted house.

• 1:06:27Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't have to do overtime.

• 1:06:29Hannah Berner?

  I also think it was pre-phone, like, we didn't have Mahjong on our phones, we were pulling out a whoopee cushion. When you got someone on a whoopee cushion, like, that was game over, like, that was the end of the night. We were like, and that's our closer.

• 1:06:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Where'd they come from? Never, once do I have a memory of buying a whoopee cushion, they just always appeared at your house. Like, you never got them, they were, one was just there.

• 1:06:49Hannah Berner?

  Blowing it up was disgusting, it tasted like a condom, and everyone would like blow it up. And I was like, this is how COVID originated, like started originating at least. It could be the cause of your UTIs, I don't even know, but everyone's slobnobbing on it.

• 1:07:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no one's getting punked these days, cause life is, we're, we got, we got, we live in it. We live in the show punked, and that's just what it is.

• 1:07:16Hannah Berner?

  Wait, pranking was like, the silliest, cutest thing back then.

• 1:07:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Pranking is so fun, all I did, I feel like, was like pranks. Like, I remember one time my grandma was like, let, you can put Saran Wrap on the toilet. And I was like, fuck yeah, I'm doing it. Or like, putting a rubber band around like the sink, so when you turn it on, like the spigot thing like sprays at you. Like, yeah, that's innocent fun.

• 1:07:41Hannah Berner?

  I'm passionate, Asher Gutcher punked like an influencer and they were like, my cortisol levels can't handle this right now. I'm suing.

• 1:07:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I watched this girl make a video, I mean, so many people have made TikToks about it, but I watched this girl make a video who like I follow and like, I've never met her in real life, but she truly, with her whole chest, called herself women. Like, or called herself, no, needed to use women, but use the word woman. Like, okay, and there's a lot of woman, and I'm, and I, I actually was like, I can't ever like another one of your videos again because I do dumb shit, that's crazy.

• 1:08:17Hannah Berner?

  I love how that's where you drew the line, you were like, I've had enough.

• 1:08:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the videos of the men not being able to read, I'm like, ah.

• 1:08:25Hannah Berner?

  Also, with pranks, like, we never faked a prank. Our shit was real. Nowadays, it's like, let's pretend that I'm surprising you, my boyfriend at college.

• 1:08:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I had props.

• 1:08:36Hannah Berner?

  There's all these fake couple prank videos, and I'm like, at one point after the 100th videos, your husband like, is this a prank that you're recording?

• 1:08:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Couples and pranks, different. I feel like, very different.

• 1:08:51Hannah Berner?

  How so?

• 1:08:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, if that's your whole thing, I feel like I would start to like get annoyed. But it's fun for like some, like randomly doing something, or like, I love like scaring people. Like, I love hiding behind a door.

• 1:09:07Hannah Berner?

  Like, that's old school, that is some, nothing's better.

• 1:09:11Paige DeSorbo?

  That's some innocent fun, I do it to Kitty.

• 1:09:13Hannah Berner?

  When you get your brother?

• 1:09:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever scared your cat? No. No, you gotta do it, no, you gotta do it. If you have a cat at home, do yourself a favor, call them, hide behind something, and Kitty dies. Like, she literally gets so mad at me, I've fallen on the ground laughing because I've scared her so good. She lit, she's like a human, she's like, she jumps back and she looks like, bitch, are you kidding?

• 1:09:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Bring some whimsy to your day, find a cat and scare it.

• 1:09:47Hannah Berner?

  Also, I'm stressed about Halloween's around the corner, sorry to bring that up. I know.

• 1:09:52Paige DeSorbo?

  What is it, what difference does it make for us? We're 34 years old.

• 1:09:57Hannah Berner?

  When do we stop dressing up?

• 1:09:58Paige DeSorbo?

  When do we stop? Also, Halloween is like, then it's like my birthday is right then. Anytime someone says Halloween, I think of myself. Even though it's my mom's birthday on Halloween, I think of me.

• 1:10:11Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, you guys are such Scorpios.

• 1:10:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, what an amazing birthday gift that must have been. She was like, oh, just the best.

• 1:10:19Hannah Berner?

  You dressing up and taking photos?

• 1:10:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, me being born. Oh, like, it was her birthday and then four days later, she had a baby.

• 1:10:28Hannah Berner?

  And that is the story of the witch of Paige De Sorbo, how she was created.

• 1:10:32Paige DeSorbo?

  The lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. Ah, that is me. The lion, the witch, and the wardrobe.

• 1:10:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I gotta go.

• 1:10:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay, we're gonna, we have to stop, we're gonna, that's where we're gonna end this thing. Um, we love you guys so much, thank you for giggling with us, and we'll talk to you later, bye!

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