Giggling about cult leaders, clowns, and crosswords

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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:08Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 0:17Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 0:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 0:33Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 0:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 0:46Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 0:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 0:51Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:11Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 1:16Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 1:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 1:22Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 1:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 1:34Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 1:35Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 1:37Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 1:49Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 1:51Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 1:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 2:36Paige DeSorbo?

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• 3:22Paige DeSorbo?

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• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

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• 4:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 4:40Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my girls, girls, gigglers. I can't stop saying it still, even though it's been a long time.

• 4:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Get a little scum. Do you know that that is the accent that I do with my brother's fiance? Like, we only talk to each other in like a British accent, but it's a British accent during like the 1500s, and we are like...

• 5:03Hannah Berner?

  Just so niche.

• 5:05Paige DeSorbo?

  We eat porridge.

• 5:07Hannah Berner?

  I love those friendships, except when you have to speak normally, you feel super weird.

• 5:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we can't. She got engaged, and I was like, "Congratulations, Amanda."

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  Congratulations, girls, girl.

• 5:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, God. I have to say, we have some, we have new gigglers.

• 5:24Paige DeSorbo?

  We do?

• 5:25Hannah Berner?

  I feel like every week I'm getting messages, "Hi, I'm a new gigglers," and they feel like they're not caught up and stuff.

• 5:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I'm not prepared. I have a hair mask in.

• 5:34Hannah Berner?

  But I just have to say, we love you. We love the whole Giggly community, day-woners today, right now, okay? But the gigglers are so fucking nice to each other in the comments. Like, the Giggly community is just, why are they the best girls on the planet?

• 5:51Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like one braid away in your hair from being a cult leader.

• 5:55Hannah Berner?

  No. I think, I think in a past life, I was.

• 6:00Paige DeSorbo?

  If you said that with a flower crown on, I'd be terrified.

• 6:05Hannah Berner?

  And then I'm like, "No, stop talking to your families and come live with us on a..."

• 6:09Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, "Whether you started yesterday, or you've been with us for six years."

• 6:15Hannah Berner?

  This is why you're my best friend, because I was trying to have like an earnest, beautiful moment, and you were like...

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  You sound insane. You were like, "You sound crazy. I'm gonna have to cut you off."

• 6:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You look like a clown, okay?

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  These bitches don't care.

• 6:34Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a girl right now on her way to work being like, "I don't give a fuck."

• 6:39Hannah Berner?

  I was like, "I'm trying to bring love and light to the community," and you're like, "We're Scorpios. Shut the fuck up."

• 6:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I will say, if you are a new gigglers, typically, we're in a studio, and like, the vibe is a little different. But I will say, during the summer, I do love when we go virtual, because like, for instance, I online shopped all morning.

• 7:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I thought you were gonna say you online shopped during the pod. I'm like, "Okay, keep that to yourself."

• 7:05Paige DeSorbo?

  If I could multitask, it's over for you.

• 7:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm doing a hair mask. Like, I'm gonna do my laser hair removal when we hang up.

• 7:15Hannah Berner?

  I think that the virtual vibes are not better or worse, they're just different. And sometimes they're like crazier.

• 7:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because we're in the comfort of our home.

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  Exactly. There's a comfortability about it. It's very cozy. We're really on a FaceTime with everyone.

• 7:32Paige DeSorbo?

  We're in pajamas.

• 7:33Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of small talk.

• 7:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:36Hannah Berner?

  You know I hate small talk, except around people who don't want to talk to me. Like, if the person's shy, then I'm like, "Okay, now I need you to love me." So, I went to get blood drawn, Quest Diagnostics, not sponsored, drove there, 15 minutes, literally left my husband. I said, "Might be the last time you see me," but...

• 7:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Hold on, wait. Does Quest Diagnostics have any competitor? I've never been, anytime I've ever needed blood, I've never gone anywhere but to Quest Diagnostics.

• 8:11Hannah Berner?

  All I know is, yeah, like, I tried to get some tests for something, and then I got, I keep getting sent to Quest Diagnostics, walked in, no one was there.

• 8:19Paige DeSorbo?

  What are you getting tested for?

• 8:20Hannah Berner?

  Well, I wanted to get tested for food, something.

• 8:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't even tell me.

• 8:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh, we have to draw blood together. What kind of cult are you trying to create?

• 8:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but usually, something as big as that, you would say to me, like, "I'm gonna go and like, try this out and like, see." You never make health decisions and don't at least...

• 8:42Hannah Berner?

  I was like bored and booked it and forgot, and then saw I had a notification today, and it's like 10, you know, I like things that are close by. It's 10 minutes away.

• 8:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. It was in someone's basement, like...

• 8:53Hannah Berner?

  But I don't, I've only driven, like, I don't drive highways.

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You do short distances.

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  I do short distances, and it was 10 minutes, no, like 15 minutes away. And I was like, and Dez was busy, and I was like, "I feel like I should drive." And he's like, "Can you do this? Do you feel ready?" And I was like, "I think I just need to. I need to take a shot at life." So, I drove. I was blasting Lil Wayne, being crazy.

• 9:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, probably not the safest. Definitely not.

• 9:22Hannah Berner?

  No, but it was getting me like focused and pumped up. And then I was like, "Am I the king of the world?" Like, the way your ego gets so big when you're in the car...

• 9:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:30Hannah Berner?

  With a good song, and you're just like...

• 9:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait till you pull like one good move.

• 9:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, someone's in the passenger seat or the backseat, and they're like, "Wow, that was really good." It's an insane ego.

• 9:43Hannah Berner?

  I don't let people drive in the backseat with me. That's, I like, care about, I care about people.

• 9:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, perfect.

• 9:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm a solo dolo right now. So, when I get to my Quest Diagnostics, safe.

• 9:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:54Hannah Berner?

  And the lady, she hates me. Like, I walk in, and she's not even making eye contact. Like, I was like, "Hi," and she, I don't think she even responded, and I was like, "Damn." But then, it was like quiet a little too long, and I was like, "I need to figure her out." And she has all these photos of her family and this one, like, beautiful dog.

• 10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like the secretary behind like the glass partition.

• 10:14Hannah Berner?

  No, this is the lady taking my blood.

• 10:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay. Oh, we're in there now.

• 10:20Hannah Berner?

  We're in there, but in the office, like, she has all these photos. So, I'm like, "This is gonna get her. I know she's gonna love this." And I go, "Your dog is really beautiful."

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  She looks at me, and she bursts into tears. She goes, "My dog, as of the last two days, is sick, and I've been non-stop crying because my baby, I don't know if I have to put him down." She goes on a whole like 10-minute crying, like tears coming down her face, and I'm sitting there like...

• 10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my worst nightmare.

• 10:49Hannah Berner?

  And I'm cornered. She has a needle to my face, crying at me. And this is just a day in my life. This is just me trying to be kind to another human. This is how the universe rewards me.

• 11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  This is so something that would happen to you.

• 11:06Hannah Berner?

  And then obviously, I wanted information, like, "How long do I have to wait?" But I couldn't really get out of the like...

• 11:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Anything. You were done.

• 11:12Hannah Berner?

  I can't be like, "By the way, how, enough about your fucking dog. How long until I get my, um, food allergy resolved?"

• 11:22Paige DeSorbo?

  What kind of dog, you're like, speaking of treats, um, what am I allergic to, bitch?

• 11:30Hannah Berner?

  No, but like, I hope, I hope it made her feel better to like, let it out, but I did not see that coming.

• 11:36Paige DeSorbo?

  What kind of dog?

• 11:37Hannah Berner?

  It was like a beautiful gray pit bull.

• 11:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Hmm.

• 11:41Hannah Berner?

  Um, and I was like, yeah, we foster sometimes, and she's like, I don't want a new one, I want my baby. And I was like, I have to go.

• 11:49Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, I don't, I don't know. See, when I'm in those situations, do you want to know what my go-to is? Your nails look really good.

• 11:57Hannah Berner?

  Hmm, girls love that.

• 11:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I always say to someone, your nails look really good. And girls are like, oh, thanks, I like, actually, like, I have to get them done? Or I just go with, your hair looks really healthy.

• 12:10Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 12:11Paige DeSorbo?

  If someone hits me with a hair, your hair looks really healthy, or your skin looks really hydrated?

• 12:17Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 12:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll put you in my will.

• 12:19Hannah Berner?

  Those are real girls go.

• 12:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, those are some, that's like, okay, we're on common ground here.

• 12:24Hannah Berner?

  You're, you know what actually I say that people love? And by the way, I only say it when it's true. I go, your pores are really small.

• 12:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 12:34Paige DeSorbo?

  You've never once told me my pores are small.

• 12:37Hannah Berner?

  Your pores are actually small.

• 12:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd kill for someone to say that to me.

• 12:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay, next time you're in a mood, I'll bring it out.

• 12:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, bring, whip that out, put that, write that down.

• 12:48Hannah Berner?

  But I feel like when I'm with people, it's, it's a beautiful energy where people like to open up to me. But um, recently, we went on a group dinner, where like, it was this like omakase thing with my brother and his wife, where one of us was gonna be sitting next to strangers.

• 13:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:04Hannah Berner?

  So, my brother's wife, the kindest, sweetest, beautiful person in the world, rusty bitch face.

• 13:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 13:14Hannah Berner?

  And I said, we're gonna put her there. So, cuz she's gonna be a wall, no one's gonna mess with her. And she doesn't, she's, if someone asked her a question, she'd be so warm, but

• 13:24Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a nurse, like, she's so nice.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  She's so nice, but like nurses, they're like, you're like, do I want to bother them with this? I don't know. But if I was there, then, next thing you know, I, we'd be going into astrology, it would be like a whole thing.

• 13:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You'd be having omakase together, with a fa- another family, yeah.

• 13:45Hannah Berner?

  Yes, so, that was like a strategic thing, and it really worked. And I, I told her afterwards, and she laughed, and she was like, I had no idea that was your strategy, and I was like, well, I'll be using you in the future, thank you. Maybe that should be her side business, the buffer friend.

• 14:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I feel like I could do that.

• 14:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but I don't even want to make you work like that.

• 14:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, thank you.

• 14:07Hannah Berner?

  Cuz you're so, you have too much social anxiety just to get there, social anxiety.

• 14:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I just like chugged a carbonated drink, I don't know why I did that, and now I'm like

• 14:15Hannah Berner?

  Burping?

• 14:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Burping. Something that's come across my desk this week, which is like really pissing me off. Have you seen the Javiana kitten heel?

• 14:25Hannah Berner?

  Yes, it's been sent to me a lot.

• 14:28Paige DeSorbo?

  What do you think about it?

• 14:29Hannah Berner?

  You know I love it.

• 14:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you love it?

• 14:32Hannah Berner?

  Fucking love it, and also it means I don't have to paint my big toe.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Do your big toe.

• 14:37Hannah Berner?

  And I save 20% on pedicures.

• 14:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's why it's actually annoying me, I feel like Javianas were like, I feel like I had a pair of Javianas in 7th grade, and then I never thought about them again. And then this summer, I feel like they were like kind of making a comeback, and then they did that, which I feel like is so Crocs-coded.

• 14:57Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Well, I was gonna say, I thought it was a croc.

• 14:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought it was a croc.

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  Javiana is coming into Crocs world, yeah.

• 15:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And if there's one thing you can believe me about, it's my hatred for Crocs. So, when I'm up here defending the croc name, I'm being serious with it.

• 15:17Hannah Berner?

  Well, you hate copycats.

• 15:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate just like

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  Inauthenticity.

• 15:20Paige DeSorbo?

  We already have it. Yeah, that's like inauthentic, like, do something different.

• 15:25Hannah Berner?

  Hmm.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  So I don't like that.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  But no, that has been sent to me like 100 times.

• 15:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And also, I think it's ugly.

• 15:31Hannah Berner?

  And? She's ugly.

• 15:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 15:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I have someone to nominate for Woman of Stem of the Week.

• 15:39Hannah Berner?

  Oh, well, it has to go past a couple senates.

• 15:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, was there a box that I was supposed to like send in to, or?

• 15:48Hannah Berner?

  I can just say, but you have to nominate, and then I have to agree.

• 15:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, great.

• 15:53Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, but I'm hanging out with Lois too much.

• 15:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Three-year-old, I literally was like, cool, I, you're making this up, as you go, you're making their rules up.

• 16:03Hannah Berner?

  I'm treating you like Lois treated me, hurt people, hurt people.

• 16:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm actually so glad we're not around kids anymore, but, because we were both around kids, like, the past couple of weekends. And this is the last thing I'm gonna say about kids, is, I really do fear that I'm gonna be a mean mom. Like, I really, there was a moment where I was like, and I think I might be a mean mom.

• 16:29Hannah Berner?

  I fear that when moms are too nice, the kids don't come out well.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I made something up that a monster comes out of the sand, and it eats little girls and boys when they scream. So, I'd be pretty scared if I were you. And then I took a moment, and I said, I don't have to go this hard.

• 16:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna pull it back, I'm gonna take a step back, these aren't my children.

• 16:55Hannah Berner?

  Well, my parents always did the quiet game, that always worked, cuz my brother and I were competitive.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, okay, someone I want to nominate for

• 17:03Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Emily Shelton.

• 17:05Hannah Berner?

  Why do I, why do I know that name?

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  She's a 21-year-old flight instructor, and she landed a plane in the middle of the highway in Florida. Something that a lot of men have said that they would be able to do, she did it.

• 17:26Hannah Berner?

  Wait, was it an emergency landing?

• 17:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, she smelled, um, oil, like, in the cockpit, and so you like, here, she's like radios to them, like, I think something's wrong.

• 17:36Hannah Berner?

  She was like, that's not a diptyque, diptyque candle, we gotta go.

• 17:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Her tone the whole time, calm as a cucumber. She was like, yep, and now I am going to declare an emergency, we're not gonna make it to the airport, I'm right in line with the highway, trying to stay away from cars, here we go, like, and then she just does it.

• 17:55Hannah Berner?

  And she's communicating like perfectly.

• 17:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, perfectly.

• 17:58Hannah Berner?

  I'm posting my pilot bit, I think, today, cuz it needs to be talked about from the Hulu special. Um, shout out to her, 100% Woman of Stem of the Month, maybe.

• 18:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew you were going to concur with that one, that was a good one.

• 18:13Hannah Berner?

  I concur. Um, there's, Woman of Stem of the Week also is this young girl who, to make money on the side of the road, she created a petting zoo, and you have to pay to pet, and it's just her dog, like, in a fence.

• 18:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop.

• 18:30Hannah Berner?

  So you have to pay to pet the dog, and I was like, fucking genius, fucking genius. Also, Woman of Stem of the Week, 3rd place, someone said that to not cry while chopping an onion, you just have to put olive oil on the knife. But it hasn't been tested.

• 18:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna test it.

• 18:50Hannah Berner?

  I, I feel like our Italian grandmas would have known that by now, but maybe it just never crossed their desk in that way.

• 18:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Definitely been in a situation where olive oil was on the knife.

• 18:59Hannah Berner?

  I know, for sure. So I wonder why they haven't told me that yet, so we'll get to the bottom of that in our own Italian FBI agents.

• 19:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, one thing I have been doing this summer, I feel like is cooking more, like, wanting to, well, let me bring that back.

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  And the trad wife rumors begin.

• 19:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I've been reading Yester Year, which is like basically about trad wives, I didn't realize it.

• 19:25Hannah Berner?

  Yester Year.

• 19:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I actually, okay, I actually wasn't aware that it was like, a thr- not, I don't know, would you classify it as a thriller? But it's like, she's living her life, and then she goes back, and she wakes up, and all of a sudden, it's like 1800s.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  So it's a historical timepiece. You love a period piece.

• 19:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I know, but I don't know if I love reading it.

• 19:52Paige DeSorbo?

  And I could say that for a lot of things in my life.

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  Do you not like the book, or do you not like reading?

• 19:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't like the book, I don't think. I don't think I like the book. Don't try and trick me.

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  You literally malfunctioned for like 3 seconds there.

• 20:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because I do like reading. Wait, oh my god.

• 20:14Paige DeSorbo?

  This isn't even like a crazy thing. So the other day, you know how I texted you because it was a really good manifestation day? So sometimes when I, when I know that it's like a good manifestation day and because TikTok told me.

• 20:28Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I was gonna ask where you figured that out?

• 20:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, obviously you can watch videos and they're like, you should do these 12 steps and it's like, eat a lemon under a full moon and then throw it out your back window. It's like, okay, whatever, drink moon juice. It's like, money chill out. The, the one thing I do do is like, write down all the things I want to manifest, or like, write a letter to my future self of the things I want to manifest. The other day, I woke up and I said, why don't I live today in like, how I want to live in the future? And do you want to know what I did? Absolutely fucking nothing. Absolutely nothing. I woke up and I was very present. I said,

• 21:13Paige DeSorbo?

  and in the future, I'll wake up leisurely, do my skincare, have coffee outside, put my bathing suit on, lay by a pool. And like, all day, I was like, do whatever I was doing. I was like, and now it's time for me to read because I live a life of leisure.

• 21:31Hannah Berner?

  Leisure is like the word you have to like, repeat to yourself.

• 21:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Leisure.

• 21:35Hannah Berner?

  Leisure. Leisure is so chic.

• 21:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Then I thought to myself, I have a podcast where I tell millions of girls to get out there and work. No, but it's, it's after like, working, once you accomplish like, certain things, it's like, how do you want to live your life?

• 21:52Hannah Berner?

  Well, I find manifestation lists help you also be, realize what you have. Like, when you're trying to think of like, what you want.

• 22:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And what's important and what's not, like.

• 22:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like, you're like, I want a happy, healthy family. And then you're like, oh, it's nice. I think it's cool to just reflect. I also found an old manifestation list.

• 22:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:13Hannah Berner?

  I just don't know what actual date it was, because it was like iconic. It was, I think it was right after I got fired. And it literally was like,

• 22:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:23Hannah Berner?

  do a late night set on Jimmy Fallon. Get a Netflix special.

• 22:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, hit a million of followers on TikTok, which are all like stupid things, but at the time, I was like, not close to any of it.

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:36Hannah Berner?

  And I never even checked it again. I just checked it recently and I was like, you go, girl.

• 22:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. That's how I feel sometimes when I look back at like, my psychic readings.

• 22:48Hannah Berner?

  Do you look back at them?

• 22:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Well, I usually record them, so sometimes like, if I'm bored, I will go back and like, re-listen to like, certain parts, just to see if any of it happened. And sometimes I'm like, oh my God, I forgot she even said that.

• 23:04Hannah Berner?

  This is a proven, perfect segue for our mental health moment of the week.

• 23:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Hell yeah.

• 23:09Hannah Berner?

  I, I want to give credit. I forget who it was, but it's a, was it a, it's a girl on something.

• 23:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect. Yeah.

• 23:17Hannah Berner?

  And she narrowed that down. And she said, to help you with your inner voice, you know, when you feel like your inner voice is you, but it's really not, it's like a bad, evil voice.

• 23:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:29Hannah Berner?

  To disassociate from that voice and be like, that's not me. Give the voice a man name. So next time, like, a hater, like, you're hating on yourself or being mean, just be like, Doug, shut the fuck up.

• 23:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God. I feel like I would have to name mine something with a P.

• 23:50Hannah Berner?

  Peter?

• 23:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Peter. Actually, Peter, you've gained a couple of pounds, okay?

• 23:59Hannah Berner?

  Peter, I make 70 cents on the dollar. You fucking work. Peter?

• 24:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Peter, you live rent-free.

• 24:06Hannah Berner?

  Because it's true, like, if your friend says it to you, you're like, okay, they make a good point. But if a man says it to you, you're like, shut the fuck up.

• 24:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's so true, Hannah. Like, my dad could say something to me and I'm like,

• 24:23Hannah Berner?

  You don't even know what you're talking about.

• 24:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, what? And then my mom could say, yeah, and I'm like, you're onto something?

• 24:29Hannah Berner?

  Go listen to a red pill podcast telling me negative things. Who do you think you are? But it's true, what, there was a time where I thought every thought in my head was like, this whisper of like, truth that I had to follow. And once you know you can ignore it, yourself, I mean, like, oh, I could just like, float around in leisure. Gigglers, the holidays are coming in. Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter and I are making sure all my fellow cat parents are guest-ready. You guys know I'm obsessed with cats. I'm a cat missionary and make sure everyone in my life has a cat and I'm doing really well at it. I foster and I'm constantly trying to help cats find homes. And around the holidays, I basically want everyone I know to fall in love with a cat and take one home.

• 25:09Hannah Berner?

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• 25:43Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season, it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two. Like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready-to-wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically, you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night. Because we're not doing all that getting dressed just to let him show up in a t-shirt. Head to samedelman.com and get 15% off with code GIGGLY15. Whenever a girl gets an idea in her head, she must execute it, and especially when it comes to interior design.

• 27:11Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:57Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 29:25Paige DeSorbo?

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• 29:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I saw this thing on TikTok and it was a comment. It wasn't even like, so I don't know if this is a thing that Gen Z like made up and is talking about, or if this was just a random girl having an amazing thought. It was like a video of two guys, probably like freshmen in college, maybe like seniors in high school. And you know how girls are criticized for everything? But specifically, a lot of women and girls are criticized for their voices. Like, have you ever heard, like, "Oh my god, her vocal fry"? Like, I hate, you know? Or like, she talks like a valley girl or whatever. Some girl commented and was just like, "Frat scent." Like, accent, like, "frac scent"?

• 30:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, "Oh my god." Yeah. Do you know how many men I know that talk the same, but I've never been able to say... Me and one of my girlfriends actually would say that, like, there were certain men that we would meet and they'd have the same type of voice, and we knew that they were like evil because they all had the same voice. And it was a frac scent, but we didn't know it then.

• 30:52Hannah Berner?

  Frac scent.

• 30:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I just think it's perfect. I think more men should be criticized. Not that feminism is about equal hate, but it is, but like, they never get criticized for that.

• 31:05Hannah Berner?

  Well, they will criticize women for saying "like" too much. But then, I've noticed, at least like in years past, especially in like the male comedy scene, they love saying "dude." So like, at the end of a sentence, they say "dude." In the beginning of a sentence, they say "dude." Like, it's their filler word, to the point that I'm like, I'm trying to listen to jokes and people are just like, "Dude, so then I was a dude, and then dude, and dude." I'm like, "Dude, are you really doing that, dude?" And it was so much dude, but you, they become unaware of it because they say it so much, where I'm like, "What's with all the dudes?"

• 31:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right, right. No, that's so true.

• 31:40Hannah Berner?

  Just raising awareness.

• 31:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I was actually just like throwing it out there.

• 31:43Hannah Berner?

  Frac scents are so real, though. And then, also, there's guys who get out of the frat scent, but then they see a guy who is giving frat, and then they go right back into their old selves. And they're like, "Bro, bro, chug."

• 31:59Paige DeSorbo?

  One thing that I've realized throughout my life in dating,

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  and I think it's a really important trait, and I didn't learn it until very later in my twenties, even like really more in my early thirties.

• 32:15Paige DeSorbo?

  When you meet a guy and you are put in different situations with him, whether it's with his friends, your friends, family, whatever, or maybe people you don't know, men that change their personality based on where they are, like, is a really big red flag. And you could argue like, "Oh, well, yeah, everyone kind of does that a little bit." But you have to find a man that you know their si- like, their demeanor and their character is gonna be the same no matter what room they walk into.

• 32:45Hannah Berner?

  I dated a guy, and dating is a strong word, but like, he was so chasing me, like, being so suave and sweet and saying all the right things, and I swear to god, his mom called and he was like, "What the fuck do you want, mom?" And I was like, "Fucking punch your grandma." Like, he was so mean to his mom. And I was like, "Oh, that's how he's gonna speak to me the second I have sex with him."

• 33:12Hannah Berner?

  Like, while I'm still in bed, he's cursing me out.

• 33:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that, like, I dated this one guy who, when we hung out with this two specific people, I loved who he was, like, with these people.

• 33:24Hannah Berner?

  Oh, oh, so it's a positive thing. You were like, with them, he was a better, better person. Maybe he should have dated them, because he became a better person with them.

• 33:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, "Why are you such a cool, good person around these people? And you're not like this all the time?" Anyway, I don't know how he got there.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you wanna get really pissed at a man right now?

• 33:46Paige DeSorbo?

  What time is it?

• 33:46Hannah Berner?

  Do you have the capacity?

• 33:47Paige DeSorbo?

  4:30? Yep, I do.

• 33:53Hannah Berner?

  You have to schedule it in.

• 33:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's take up so much time.

• 33:56Hannah Berner?

  I don't have anything for about an hour I can fit it in. Okay, so there's, I was doing the New York Times crossword puzzle.

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that about you.

• 34:04Hannah Berner?

  But I'm really bad at it, so like...

• 34:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay.

• 34:06Hannah Berner?

  I had to cheat. Um, but every Monday, I try, and I always get it down to like the last two, and I can't get it.

• 34:13Paige DeSorbo?

  How do you cheat? You just Google it?

• 34:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but like, I don't tell people I won, I just...

• 34:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You just say you did it, okay.

• 34:19Hannah Berner?

  I just say I did it.

• 34:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you for being honest and open with us about it.

• 34:22Hannah Berner?

  I didn't win, I cheated. So, there's Emperor, and it's a four-letter word, it's Emperor Nero. So I Googled like Emperor, four-letter word, whatever.

• 34:31Paige DeSorbo?

  People that aren't cheating are nerds, because who the hell is getting...

• 34:36Hannah Berner?

  Emperor Nero, sorry, sorry that I had friends in high school.

• 34:44Hannah Berner?

  No, and then it's like tons of eighties references, so Dez is good at it, but I digress. I was like, "Can we do a pop culture one?"

• 34:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, we were in the Times crossword puzzle once, remember that?

• 34:54Hannah Berner?

  I think it was like the pop culture one.

• 34:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh. Those bitches, I didn't know there was different ones. Whatever. Okay, keep going. So you're doing Nero, yeah.

• 35:04Hannah Berner?

  Nero. So like, it comes up his name and all these facts about him, and like, so I just gave it a quick look-see. This man, this man made them move the Olympics, because like, I feel like he was like, I don't know, 1600, 1700, 1800, I don't fucking know. He made them move the Olympics, because he was traveling, so that he could be there. And then, for him to compete in a ton of competitions, that they had to give him gold. And they gave him gold in all the competitions, then when he died, they took his name off all the winning lists. And I'm like, "That's literally leaders today." Like, if they could, they would.

• 35:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, this is sick in the head. Like, this is so sick.

• 35:47Hannah Berner?

  And someone on his team was like, "Yeah, we're gonna have to just give him the gold, is that okay? He's threatening to, to take down the entire society if you don't, so can we just give him a gold medal, let him walk around, a little gold star."

• 36:01Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what pisses me off about that is like, the girls of that age, they didn't even have the appropriate jargon. Like, they couldn't be like, "Okay, this gaslighting motherfucker is winning all the gold."

• 36:14Hannah Berner?

  Old Instagrams of like stuff they used to say, like Giggle Mug and stuff, everyone sends that to us. They definitely had a word for it back then, and I wanna know what they called them.

• 36:23Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 36:24Hannah Berner?

  You know his wife was exhausted. She was like, "Oh my god, congrats, babe."

• 36:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  Congrats. Also, these people have been training their whole lives to like, do swords or whatever the fuck people did in the 1700s.

• 36:39Hannah Berner?

  Throw like gold, I don't know, Harry Potter shit, like...

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, like, where did he move it? Where was it that he moved it?

• 36:46Hannah Berner?

  He just moved the timing of it. He was like, "It's not gonna work this week," so they had to like...

• 36:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, okay, diva down, though. Like, I think a lot of men back then were just like absolute gay men who had no outlet, you know?

• 37:04Hannah Berner?

  Performing, that was his performance.

• 37:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, think about how they really couldn't say shit about it.

• 37:09Hannah Berner?

  He wanted a podium. He needed a stand on a podium with gold. Diva down.

• 37:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, I kind of love it.

• 37:18Hannah Berner?

  With great power comes great responsibility.

• 37:20Paige DeSorbo?

  He's like, "You don't need that gold medal, like, actually, give it to me." Um, okay, one thing I feel like, you know how like when you hear your birthday or like your full name, or something that is so you, and you're like, "Yeah, that's like, of course I'm a Leo, like, that's so me." I love when those moments happen, and I feel like recently, I'm getting like,

• 37:46Paige DeSorbo?

  like, you know when you go on someone's phone and you're like, "This is, I can't work this, like, I've never seen it before," even though you have an iPhone? This is how I'm starting to feel when I'm watching other people's TVs. I have to now log out of their like Amazon Prime or something and log into mine, because I'm like, "Sorry, yours is like, I don't like it, like, I..."

• 38:05Hannah Berner?

  The algorithm's getting like so specific.

• 38:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I just feel like I've isolated too much.

• 38:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, I can only work comfortably if I'm on my own accounts.

• 38:20Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I have a hot take.

• 38:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:22Hannah Berner?

  I didn't love Furious. The Hulu show you recommended?

• 38:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know what you're talking about. What didn't you love about it?

• 38:32Hannah Berner?

  Well, I was watching it with Dez, which might have like ruined the experience.

• 38:36Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what it is. You can't watch things with men. It really, it, no, I'm not kidding, it ruins it.

• 38:43Hannah Berner?

  Because I was watching it from a critical eye, and I do think the script needs work. I think the script needs, I think it was a little over-explain-y.

• 38:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but we haven't seen Emmy Rossum in a while, and she like really puts out there this role.

• 38:58Hannah Berner?

  She's perfect. Also, the, the serial killer is perfect. I just, I didn't, I wasn't, I just wasn't blown away, but it was solid.

• 39:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, and what were Dez's critiques? What did he not like?

• 39:11Hannah Berner?

  He, he hated the script.

• 39:14Paige DeSorbo?

  He hated how it started out.

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  He didn't like their like fake funny cop relationships. He didn't like...

• 39:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Fake funny? She got beat up by her boyfriend?

• 39:27Hannah Berner?

  No, just like the, like, they tried to do funny back and forths, like banter, but it like wasn't really funny.

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I don't think I picked up on that.

• 39:37Hannah Berner?

  I think you were on your phone.

• 39:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's a serious show. Did we watch the same show? When did they try and do banter?

• 39:43Hannah Berner?

  It's all the back and forth, and then, but like, she's perfect, she's a star.

• 39:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever, you hated it, okay.

• 39:49Hannah Berner?

  I also only watched the first half of the episode, yeah.

• 39:54Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're really not even into it? So I'm actually not even listening to you.

• 39:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone, scratch Hannah's critique of that show and try it.

• 40:02Hannah Berner?

  Well, now I feel like I put, I put bad energy into the world. So anyway, everyone, watch the first episode of Furious and let me know what you think.

• 40:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I will say, the first like five to 10 minutes, I actually was like, "I don't know if I can watch this," because sometimes, right when they hit you with someone's dead and was murdered, I'm actually like, "Ooh."

• 40:18Hannah Berner?

  See, I was into that. It went downhill after that.

• 40:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  Like, you know, you're like, "Oh, of course, they're gonna cut to her, she cut to her in the office being like, 'What do I do? I'm a cop.'" There's so many, how FBI men are mean to me.

• 40:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't use that poison up, I feel like.

• 40:39Hannah Berner?

  I don't think I've ever, that's my cop, cop in a show voice.

• 40:45Hannah Berner?

  And those papers.

• 40:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Papers everywhere.

• 40:49Hannah Berner?

  But Emily Rossum, like, she also can sing. And I like, respect people who can sing. Cause I can't.

• 40:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I think she has like, a lot of lore. I'm not sure what it is, though.

• 41:00Hannah Berner?

  I sense that too, from her. We have to look that up.

• 41:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm feeling an energy that's she's like. Insane lore.

• 41:08Hannah Berner?

  See.

• 41:10Paige DeSorbo?

  See, because I watched Shameless not when it was on TV, so I wasn't familiar with her until like, years, years later. But I think there's something there. We should look it up.

• 41:19Hannah Berner?

  That's how I want people to talk about me. I want them to go, Hannah Berner, I feel like there's lore.

• 41:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Trust me, girl. They do.

• 41:29Paige DeSorbo?

  They are. Anywho.

• 41:31Hannah Berner?

  I have to apologize to the Academy.

• 41:33Paige DeSorbo?

  For?

• 41:34Hannah Berner?

  Last episode, I said I was gonna help people with the US Open, and then I never did.

• 41:37Paige DeSorbo?

  What were we gonna help them with?

• 41:39Hannah Berner?

  Just like, tips and tricks.

• 41:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you don't have time to help them with the US Open, because you have to help me with the US Open and getting me a ticket.

• 41:45Hannah Berner?

  Tell them what happened today.

• 41:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Guys.

• 41:49Hannah Berner?

  No, it was freaky.

• 41:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was freaky. No, it was really freaky.

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  Down to the exact colors page, there were other colorways.

• 41:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know there were. So I'm scrolling my Instagram, scrolling my Instagram, and I see this like, top, and I'm like, wait, that's a really cool top. So I click the Instagram, I go to the website, I'm like, I love this top. I click through, it has a matching skirt. I'm like, amazing. I click the colors, boop, boop, boop, I buy it. I'm, I get the email, I'm like, wait, this is actually a Hannah outfit, and I should send this link to Hannah, because she should order this. This is like, a perfect Good Morning America outfit. She's going on a talk show. She, whatever.

• 42:27Hannah Berner?

  My stylist.

• 42:28Paige DeSorbo?

  So, I just send her the link, and then I get in the shower, because I'm starting my, starting my, my stuff. So honestly, I forget all about it.

• 42:38Hannah Berner?

  And I was driving, so I didn't get it immediately. And I'm not at the point where I can navigate.

• 42:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And you'll never be there.

• 42:45Hannah Berner?

  But even, I don't like the voice text. It doesn't hit the same.

• 42:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, let's just say here and now, do not ever do that.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  No. No texting, driving on this pod.

• 42:53Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a couple of things Giggly Squad is big in, and it's, we don't fool around in cars, and we don't, and nicotine, get a fucking life.

• 43:01Hannah Berner?

  We don't smoke cigarettes, and I'm over it, and I think big cigarettes are behind a lot of these influencers posting, but I digress, continue.

• 43:11Paige DeSorbo?

  You think there's a conspiracy theory there?

• 43:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because it's one thing to get caught smoking a cig by a paparazzi.

• 43:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You think Big Tobacco is doing influencer deals?

• 43:24Paige DeSorbo?

  They don't think we're cool enough. Nobody's ever asked.

• 43:30Hannah Berner?

  Okay, Glor, Big Tobacco is trying to get out of the job right now. It's like, they got us.

• 43:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what was I just saying?

• 43:37Hannah Berner?

  You were gonna say what you texted me.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  So I text Hannah, I come back, I open my phone, she texts me back, she goes, Paige, I ordered this outfit, and I'm wearing it to the US Open. And in the shower, I was like, perfect for the US Open, actually, for her.

• 43:52Hannah Berner?

  I literally am like, that's my outfit.

• 43:53Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really scary.

• 43:54Hannah Berner?

  So I'm gonna, I'm trying to figure out the date, I'll get it.

• 43:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 43:58Hannah Berner?

  My one thing I want to say about the US Open, even though things have changed, it's gotten a lot more crowded, is you can go, I believe, for free to qualifying week, which is like, the best week to go, because you watch all these amazing qualifying matches. These are people fighting for their fucking life. Like, this is intense. This is serious stuff. Like, this is passion. So, wa, like, it's basically challengers, if it was good. So. Ooh, she's shady like La Roche on, you see La Roche fighting with everyone on Project Runway?

• 44:30Hannah Berner?

  Him and Tyra are gonna.

• 44:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to catch up.

• 44:34Hannah Berner?

  Him and Tyra are two strong personalities.

• 44:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Hannah Berner?

  Is all I'm gonna say, and I'm locked in. Oh yeah, so go up to the, go to the qualifying week, the week before it starts, and then you also see all the top people training. So they're like, playing practice matches and hanging around, so that's a super fun time.

• 44:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, the concession is open, it's like, regular vibes.

• 44:56Hannah Berner?

  Yes. My other advice is, it's gonna be fucking hot.

• 44:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I know.

• 45:00Hannah Berner?

  Bring sunscreen, bring sunglasses, maybe a cute hat.

• 45:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I have to go at night.

• 45:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you like the night one. If you get a grounds pass, make sure you have comfortable sneakers, because you're gonna be walking around. Try to see matches you wanna watch, and like, get there beforehand. Um.

• 45:18Paige DeSorbo?

  And I would say the outfit vibe is like, one of your friends from camp invited you to their grandma's, grandma and grandpa's lake house. And like, what would your day outfit be for that? Like, you're going shopping, you're going to lunch, like, it's very preppy slash, you could go nautical with it. Think like, baby shower, what would you wear to a baby shower in Nantucket?

• 45:46Hannah Berner?

  I love that. I also think bright colors, though, in general, are good. Like, reds, blues. Throw in a white.

• 45:55Paige DeSorbo?

  It's very American.

• 45:56Hannah Berner?

  Very American, yeah. And very classic. I feel like anything classic works.

• 46:02Paige DeSorbo?

  It's very polo Ralph Lauren.

• 46:04Hannah Berner?

  Yes, very polo Ralph Lauren. Um, I really didn't have a lot of advice for the US Open. I, I just wanted to sound like I do, but like.

• 46:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, great. I feel like that. You did a phenomenal job.

• 46:14Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. Um, but we will go, we just have to figure it out. Talk to some people.

• 46:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  You know what my dream is?

• 46:24Hannah Berner?

  To be asked to sit in a box of one of the players.

• 46:28Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what that means?

• 46:30Hannah Berner?

  So there's players' boxes. That's where the coaches and the family sit. That's like, where the girlfriends sit. To get in the box, it's their closest friends. I don't want to just get into anyone's box, because I'm asking for it.

• 46:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 46:40Hannah Berner?

  But there was like, an iconic time where Chelsea Handler was besties with Maria Sharapova, and she was always in her box, and it was like, so fucking cool. And it was just like, girl, girl, like, her supporting women. And like, I've infiltrated the tennis society. Jessie Pugula, Madison Keys, um, these are my girls. Anyway, a lot of these girls I'm friends with, Ayla Tomlinovich, shout out.

• 47:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Hello.

• 47:04Hannah Berner?

  Emma Navarro, shout out. Um, those are my girlies, and maybe I'll see them at the Open, but um, oh my god, yeah, I'm gonna stalk them all.

• 47:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, this is you writing in your diary, that maybe one day you'll be asked.

• 47:17Hannah Berner?

  This is my manifestation. But then I don't want them to ask me, just because I asked for it. Now I sound like an annoying girlfriend. I'm like, just do it, because you wanna do it. But like, I'm a cheerer, like, I will be cheering.

• 47:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're, you're. You're there.

• 47:32Hannah Berner?

  They invite me, and then the next time, the coach is like, hey, can you not be so fucking loud during the, the match?

• 47:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think it's interesting in tennis, that I feel like it's the only sport where the coach isn't there, like, right there. You can't talk to him during it. I think that's like, the most bizarre thing.

• 47:51Hannah Berner?

  So, coaching used to be illegal, like, no coaching. You can't even like, give a hand signal, any communication, because part of tennis is like, once you're on the court, it's you versus the opponent, and you have to figure it out, like a puzzle.

• 48:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:05Hannah Berner?

  But then they just like, couldn't control the cheating. Like, coaches would like, be like, if I blink with my right eye, hit it to her forehand. Like, they were, if I touch, if I move my hat, that means like, start coming to net more. Like, they couldn't control it. Serena Williams famously got called for coaching in like, a very important match, when everyone's like, she shouldn't have, because everyone cheats with coaching. So finally, now you can coach.

• 48:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I would have been doing full dancing dance. Like, in what world are you gonna tell me that I can't look at, I can't look at someone in the crowd?

• 48:41Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I wasn't coaching, I was picking my nose. And it's like, well, you keep doing that. But also, yeah, tennis now is like, evolving, so you can coach. But like, there's only so much you could coach when.

• 48:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that seems like a ridiculous rule.

• 48:54Hannah Berner?

  They did it for a long time, babe. A long time. You are obsessed with umpires, because you love when they tell everyone to shut the fuck up.

• 49:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because I think they are, they command a room. And I appreciate that in someone.

• 49:08Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. Oh, that's what you, you love when they say, thank you.

• 49:12Paige DeSorbo?

  They sound so passive aggressive, and I think I like, I like that.

• 49:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and their job is basically to manage when players lose their mind and keep everyone like, calm. I'd be a bad umpire, for sure. The second they question me, I'd be like, no, you're right.

• 49:27Paige DeSorbo?

  You're too passionate. Yeah, you'd be way too passionate about it.

• 49:30Hannah Berner?

  But I want everyone to like me, so I'd be like, girl, you're right. And the other one would be like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, babe, love you even more, you're right. One thing about me, I love a protein bar. I'm not going out into the world without my emergency protein bar. It saved me in so many situations, I can't even tell you. But when I'm eating a protein bar, it can't taste like I'm being punished, you know, for trying to eat healthy.

• 49:50Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I'm obsessed with Stars and Honey. They basically looked at protein bars and said, hmm, why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat? Each bar has 15 grams of protein and only four grams of sugar, but the flavors are giving dessert, honey. Iced lemon cookie, mint chocolate chip, red velvet peanut butter mousse? Hello? Who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse?

• 50:15Hannah Berner?

  Because the best habits are the ones you can actually stick to. And consistency is a lot easier when your better-for-you snack is actually something you crave. Their standard is literally, would you still want to eat it if it weren't a protein bar? And that's the energy I need.

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• 51:58Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:13Hannah Berner?

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• 53:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel, and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out, and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 53:33Hannah Berner?

  And part of rebranding is getting new clothes, and that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before, whether it's denim, such as an angled barrel jean. I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more.

• 53:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 53:55Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 54:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner, I'm having a time.

• 54:09Hannah Berner?

  Hmm, and then people forget that on Revolve, there's also beauty. They have menswear, they have home, and they have Forward Renew, which is pre-owned luxury handbags, and you know how much we love vintage.

• 54:22Paige DeSorbo?

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• 54:47Hannah Berner?

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• 55:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 55:48Hannah Berner?

  What do you think about this TikTok going around about? Someone was like, if you, if someone talks shit about you to me, I don't want you defending me, I want you to pretend you're on their side to get all the tea.

• 56:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Hundred percent.

• 56:02Hannah Berner?

  But this is the thing, like me and you, no one's gonna come up to us and talk shit about the other one.

• 56:07Paige DeSorbo?

  They'd have to be insane. It has to be about like an acquaintance.

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  Yes, four peripheral friends.

• 56:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I've had multiple people not know that I'm like, like know that I know someone, but don't know how close I am to that person. So they'll, and they're like kind of close to that person, and they'll say a bunch of stuff.

• 56:27Hannah Berner?

  You're asking follow-up questions, you put your phone up to them, you're like, what'd you say?

• 56:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, wait, when did they go there? You're kidding? With who?

• 56:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, you know, when you realize you're in enemy territory?

• 56:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:40Hannah Berner?

  Cause it's like group mentality, and you're like, oh, you guys are all thinking this way about this person, and like...

• 56:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I was actually gonna bring this up, and I feel like that's a good segue. Have you seen the Lindsay Clancy like case that's going on?

• 56:54Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I'm getting DMs about it. Is there a documentary that I watched?

• 56:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, there's, I don't think there's a documentary.

• 57:00Hannah Berner?

  I think there's one on Amazon.

• 57:02Paige DeSorbo?

  But they're interviewing on the stand all these people, and obviously, one of the people is her husband. And so people are watching this case on TV, and they're doing all of these conspiracy theories. Well, this is the first time I think I've ever seen people like, and there's millions of conspiracy theories, and there's millions of conspiracy theories, I feel like about every trial, but there are people on TikTok that are getting really mad that people are coming up with conspiracy theories. Like, and there are a lot of people that think like, oh, the judge is gonna want miraculously, randomly just say like, we think the husband did it, this is over, like we have to like accuse him,

• 57:44Paige DeSorbo?

  which is not going to happen, but also in the same vein, like people are noticing certain things and are like, that doesn't add up at all. Like, it's so crazy and heartbreaking.

• 57:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 57:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's a lot of people trying to make things make sense. The one thing I will say, she has an excellent lawyer regardless. He is just like a very articulate...

• 58:09Hannah Berner?

  So you're watching clips of it on TikTok, or like you're looking at the actual trial online?

• 58:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm watching the actual trial, like on, in different clips.

• 58:17Hannah Berner?

  Oh, wow. I also think, one thing I learned from watching a lot of these kind of documentaries is there's not always a perfect victim. So like a lot of the time, it's like, I don't like how she or she's reacting, or they're not sad enough, they're, they're too sad. Um, so it's not like there's one way to deal with your whole family, like dying.

• 58:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 58:40Hannah Berner?

  But I'm gonna have to look into this and come back on the next pod.

• 58:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, it's awful, and it's like so sad, but it is interesting, like the discourse around it.

• 58:49Hannah Berner?

  On a more positive note?

• 58:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, let's lighten it up.

• 58:52Hannah Berner?

  Some more positive lore is I found out that the Wiggles are fucking each other. They're dating, they're breaking up, they're getting married, they're marrying new people. They're all, there's all kinds of dating lore within the Wiggles community. And they're Australian, so they're all hot. They're all hot and just, they're Australian, you know?

• 59:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it so much.

• 59:19Hannah Berner?

  So I have to look into it, but like, people were married and divorced and still on the show, and then now with different people. Yeah. I mean, look, a work crush is a work crush. It doesn't matter if you're a wiggle or you're an accountant.

• 59:31Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the reality TV show I think we deserve collectively, as a society.

• 59:35Hannah Berner?

  Yes, the Wiggles?

• 59:36Paige DeSorbo?

  A bunch of gay men choreographing during the day, and then banging and fighting by night?

• 59:45Hannah Berner?

  No, I think they're straight, they're just Australian.

• 59:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, then I don't care.

• 59:50Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 59:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, then I literally don't care.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  I feel like it's still interesting, the men and women hooking up wiggle. Like, it's like Wiggles Love Island.

• 1:00:01Paige DeSorbo?

  There's women on the Wiggles?

• 1:00:03Hannah Berner?

  Yes, it's...

• 1:00:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, that was so misogynistic of me. I've only ever seen men.

• 1:00:07Hannah Berner?

  Originally, it was like a couple men, but now the Wiggles community is like a big community of like men and women.

• 1:00:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh. I don't care. I don't care, and when it was all gay men, I'm in, I'm seated, I'm sat. Bringing the streets, I don't care, I could just go in my own phone book.

• 1:00:30Hannah Berner?

  I could go in my own phone book.

• 1:00:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you kidding?

• 1:00:33Hannah Berner?

  I just have to read old text messages.

• 1:00:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, a bunch of hot Australians two-timing me, I could scroll to 2017, like I don't need...

• 1:00:42Hannah Berner?

  Wait, why are there so many hot Australian men in New York who are just feral?

• 1:00:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, and why do they all own shops?

• 1:00:50Hannah Berner?

  Mine own a coffee shop.

• 1:00:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Beer shops, egg shops. I'm like, what is up with you guys and hospitality?

• 1:00:59Hannah Berner?

  Entrepreneurship.

• 1:01:02Hannah Berner?

  And there's all, yeah, it's, it's a time, I highly recommend it, at least to try.

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I do also have like a question, just like for the girls' girl community.

• 1:01:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:01:16Hannah Berner?

  When you wake up in the morning and you have a 9:30 Pilates class, which I feel like is a relatable question for the girls, are we drinking coffee beforehand? Are we trying to get some calories in beforehand? How soon are you eating when you wake up versus heading to the class? No one's figured it out, and it's stressing me out.

• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Before I have to go anywhere, from the time I have to walk out to get to my destination, I'm up an hour before that.

• 1:01:50Hannah Berner?

  We live such different lives.

• 1:01:52Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're this, I don't even know what this problem is.

• 1:01:56Hannah Berner?

  Babe, babe, babe, babe, I have a 9:30 Pilates class today. What do you think my alarm was?

• 1:02:01Paige DeSorbo?

  9:15.

• 1:02:02Hannah Berner?

  9:00 AM, cause it takes 10 minutes to get there. And then I was like, gonna, I need to live in chaos. Like, I was running, like, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late. But then I'm like, do I try to eat a little cereal? Is it good? And, cause my biggest fear is having to go to the bathroom during a Pilates class. That's like illegal.

• 1:02:20Paige DeSorbo?

  The hour before, I've built in my skincare, my coffee, my like, my getting dressed, and then...

• 1:02:28Hannah Berner?

  I'm always in a rush while also not accomplishing...

• 1:02:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Moving at a snail's pace.

• 1:02:36Hannah Berner?

  Now I'm thinking of all the times you arrived on time and I didn't, but I'm also like low...

• 1:02:41Paige DeSorbo?

  All the times, what are you talking about?

• 1:02:42Hannah Berner?

  But low-key, I got so much more sleep than you, just to be like five minutes later. And looking like, like shit.

• 1:02:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and I don't do it to like be better than people. I do it because I have a sensitive tummy.

• 1:02:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I can't just jump out of bed like the rest of America, I need to ease into it.

• 1:03:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, in college, when I worked out in the morning a lot, you know I didn't do coffee in college? Like, I was, I was such a little prude. Yeah, I don't know, I just didn't do it. And I'm like, how did I survive college without coffee? So I guess in the morning, I just had some water and like a banana.

• 1:03:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And just like pure adrenaline, I feel like, and like...

• 1:03:18Hannah Berner?

  Just being young.

• 1:03:19Paige DeSorbo?

  A zest for life, dare I say?

• 1:03:21Hannah Berner?

  Just hope, hope and excitement for what, the unknown.

• 1:03:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And now my TikTok algorithm is women telling their husbands if they want a new life to not kill them and the kids. And it's like, no, you have to like look out.

• 1:03:37Hannah Berner?

  I love how I'm trying to end on a light note of Pilates, and you keep bringing us back. You keep bringing us back to murder, but you know what?

• 1:03:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's all the time we have for today.

• 1:03:47Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for giggling with us.

• 1:03:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Stay safe out there.

• 1:03:49Hannah Berner?

  We love you so much, talk to you later, bye.

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