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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:44Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:52Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:01Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:17Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time. And I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:30Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:34Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:48Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:00Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt for real.

• 2:06Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:19Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:33Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:34Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my, my Giggly's, um.

• 3:57Hannah Berner?

  We're back. We're back. I did just wake up from a nap.

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:02Hannah Berner?

  I think that's, that's why I'm a little.

• 4:06Hannah Berner?

  My mouth's a little sore.

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And we talked a little in the beginning to get Hannah warmed up.

• 4:10Hannah Berner?

  Now we do exercises.

• 4:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Now we do red leather, yellow leather.

• 4:15Hannah Berner?

  Seashells by the seashore, um.

• 4:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah's about to start. Her show. So she's, it's start, we're in it.

• 4:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 4:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? I feel like a lot of people were like, what's the vibe of, what's the vibe of the summer? What's the song of the summer? What's the saying of the summer? For the gigglers? Sorry, we're having an intense summer because Hannah can't move her face. Not only is she working with no movement, but we have to keep abreast on what's going on.

• 4:46Hannah Berner?

  Um, I declare it right now, it's soft smile summer.

• 4:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Hell yeah, it is.

• 4:56Hannah Berner?

  I've changed who I am. I'm an ice queen.

• 4:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 4:59Hannah Berner?

  I don't smile at anyone. I don't laugh at anyone. Nothing's funny.

• 5:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 5:03Hannah Berner?

  Um, and. Look, I do have to say thank you for all the feedback from the pod. I'm still getting it. I'm like refreshing YouTube and reading all the comments. The one thing I didn't think was gonna hurt my feelings that did is I'm getting a lot of people calling me Keira Knightley.

• 5:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Why would that hurt your feelings?

• 5:22Hannah Berner?

  Because it means my jaw's not moving. And I look like this. And I'm like, I have locked jaw. She's gorgeous, but I can't move my jaw.

• 5:30Paige DeSorbo?

  You are kind of giving a little bit British.

• 5:36Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I actually was so excited to see you today because I thought I was gonna hop on and you were gonna be like.

• 5:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It looks so much better.

• 5:42Hannah Berner?

  You look so good. But the problem with Paige is she's brutally honest with me. To the point that yesterday I sent her a photo of myself. And didn't get a response and then said, made a joke like, sorry, I look ugly. I know you hate when I look ugly. And she was like, thanks for ruining my night.

• 5:57Paige DeSorbo?

  What about today when I was like, you sent me a meme about how like your friend can't take anything serious? And I was like, this is me for the next six months. And you were like, six months?

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  I'm very fragile right now. You can't make those jokes.

• 6:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know. No, I know.

• 6:14Hannah Berner?

  No, I know. And it's not funny.

• 6:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I know.

• 6:16Hannah Berner?

  Women's stem of the week.

• 6:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:19Hannah Berner?

  Not my injector.

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll take room in my segment.

• 6:45Hannah Berner?

  And it's not funny.

• 6:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's not.

• 6:48Hannah Berner?

  I've gotten like a wide variety of people reaching out being like, hey, you'll be good in three weeks. And then some people who are like, hey, like it took, it took, it's, it took me 10 months. It's still a thing, but it's like rare, like not all the.

• 7:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Well, when's the last time you went and had it done before this time?

• 7:09Hannah Berner?

  Excuse you.

• 7:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause it was a serious moment.

• 7:19Hannah Berner?

  Could you not just? You couldn't do anything serious like that now? Everything's a fucking joke to you.

• 7:30Hannah Berner?

  Some people are fighting for their life right now. You're making little hiccups, cute little hiccups.

• 7:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, I was just laughing so hard. I almost started drooling.

• 7:42Hannah Berner?

  Some of us are just naturally drooling because they can't.

• 7:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh, okay. So I got it last time, October. I don't even remember when it went away. Cause I don't know, like I didn't know what was going on.

• 7:55Paige DeSorbo?

  October and you got it in June. Okay. Okay.

• 8:00Hannah Berner?

  Okay. I have to also give an apology.

• 8:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Aren't you dealing with enough right now? Who are you apologizing to?

• 8:12Hannah Berner?

  I was saying everything was going well in my life at last pod and I listed a bunch of things. Then people were messaging me. They were like, why didn't you say your marriage? What's going on in your marriage?

• 8:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I don't like you, but like, I'm not having like crazy ups and downs in my marriage where I'm like, we had a good month this month, thank God, like.

• 8:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, we don't think of him.

• 8:33Hannah Berner?

  We don't, it's not part of my day to day, like drama, thank God, in marriage.

• 8:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 8:39Hannah Berner?

  But then also, and then he was like, why didn't you say like, I was there to help you, cuz like, Dez has been my rock. I've put all my anxiety into him. I've been calling him. He's been so positive with me, except he also was like, oh no, like, I had testicular cancer. Hmm, do you have some, he's like, oh, you have both your parents still. He's like, oh, did you not tear your ACL and it's still, it still hurts? So that's why dating an older man.

• 9:07Paige DeSorbo?

  He puts life into perspective. I think the good thing about Dez is he does let you be, he does let you feel sorry for yourself, the allotted time that is healthy to feel sorry for yourself, and then he makes you get it together.

• 9:22Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and like, he's making me laugh, which is making it worse, but anyway, how are you?

• 9:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm good. I'm, I texted Hannah and I was like, do you actually think we could do the pod tomorrow? Because I'm in the trenches of packing. Nighttime outfits, packed. Daytime outfits, packed.

• 9:41Hannah Berner?

  Got it.

• 9:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Skin, hair, makeup, packed. I just have to do bathing suits and cover-ups, shoes, jewelry, accessories, hats.

• 9:53Hannah Berner?

  How do you pack hats?

• 9:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I just stuff them. I stuff them in there. And then I like, if something happens to them and they get fucked up, I try and like reshape them wherever I am.

• 10:03Hannah Berner?

  Cuz I can see you going for some hat looks this summer.

• 10:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I have one ridiculous hat look that I'm just like, where am I even wearing this? But I'm not one of those people that wears their hats on the plane. Like, in the, like, I can do it in my carry-on, but I'm not wearing it on the plane. I'm not.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  I judge people's hats, like, if they're gonna wear it, I'm like, that's the one you wore? That's the one you're saving?

• 10:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, here's the other thing. I never lose things and I'm missing one of my straw hats. And I'm just like.

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  Farmer Paige!

• 10:41Hannah Berner?

  Where did you?

• 10:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate losing things.

• 10:44Hannah Berner?

  You would hate my life. Spent a mile in these little batons.

• 10:49Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I could never do it. I couldn't.

• 10:50Hannah Berner?

  I don't even know where my little batons are because I don't have them and I lost them.

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No. I have like a running list of things in my head that I'm like, I need to check in on that because I haven't seen it in a while. Like I have a rotating thing. So like I know where everything is.

• 11:05Hannah Berner?

  So you would never lose your wedding ring for two years?

• 11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 11:09Hannah Berner?

  And not even try to look for it because you're like, we'll deal with that later. We'll wait till my mom finds it.

• 11:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No. No, I couldn't. I couldn't. It would like ruin my day. I have to like remind myself that it's things and they can't love you back. And so it's like, if it goes, it goes.

• 11:26Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, I forgot. You're in like a Toy Story situation.

• 11:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I have like my own stuff that I need to work out, but in the midst of packing. Mist. Mist.

• 11:40Hannah Berner?

  No, you said it right.

• 11:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay.

• 11:42Hannah Berner?

  Midst. But you really hit every, every consonant somehow. Midst is just.

• 11:46Paige DeSorbo?

  In the midst of my packing, I was watching the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders sweetheart. I, I don't even, I never know what the name of the show is, but you know what I'm talking about.

• 11:55Hannah Berner?

  Mormon wives secret, yeah.

• 11:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Housewives Mormon, religion.

• 12:00Hannah Berner?

  Mormon secret. Cowboys, Dallas. Island love.

• 12:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because why does Netflix give every show an insane name? And like reality shows specifically. It's like, I don't need a thesis for the name of the show. Give me like, like, give me OG Laguna Beach. Okay, got it. I don't need LA confidential, secret society hot wives.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  LA nannies, yeah, whatever. Yeah. They're, that's so true. They put a full IMDb page in the title.

• 12:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, so I'm watching the Dallas Cheerleaders. I'm like.

• 12:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't watch the show like when it was on TV. Maybe I saw like a couple of episodes. But there are just like certain things that you're like, yeah, I'm gonna let it slide cuz like they're in Dallas, like what it, what are we doing? You know, like I'm enjoying the show. Then it gets to a part where the main girl, okay? Now, she became the main girl essentially because when you were watching her on TV, you were like captivated, mesmerized. Dare I say she had the sauce. She was an incredible dancer. She's gorgeous. Like, I don't think I've ever said this phrase in my life, but sweet as pie. Like, just the cutest, sweet, like, everything. She ends up becoming like somewhat the face of the show in the past three years that it's been on Netflix.

• 13:22Paige DeSorbo?

  At the end of this season, she decides that she's not going to come back for the, not going to come back for next year. She's like turning in her uniform. She just got married last year.

• 13:33Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they have their boyfriends in it too?

• 13:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm, sometimes. Some of their like husbands or boyfriends are in it. Now, when she's deciding if she's gonna come back for the next year, she gets hurt and her boyfriend says something while she's sitting on the couch that I was just like, oh, that's like so interesting. And I'm trying to think if like my significant other said, said that to me in that moment, would I be pissed? So now, mind you, she's an athlete. She hurts herself. She's, wants to finish out the year.

• 14:03Hannah Berner?

  I love how you're like, would you start a fight? Let me tell you the scenario.

• 14:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. And he goes selfishly, I'm kind of happy because I get to spend more time with you.

• 14:14Hannah Berner?

  I don't hate it.

• 14:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 14:16Hannah Berner?

  I don't hate it cuz I was literally dealing with that just now with my mouth situation. Just to bring it back to me cuz you, you didn't ask me about it the last two minutes.

• 14:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but this is a good, no, this is good.

• 14:29Hannah Berner?

  Where I was like, if I lose a, if, if I like Don't travel and I'm not like working.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right, right.

• 14:37Hannah Berner?

  I get to spend more time with my family.

• 14:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, okay, but what you're about to do, you just found out about two months ago.

• 14:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 14:45Paige DeSorbo?

  What this girl is doing, she worked her, it would be like if you were in playing tennis. And it was like the final year, your senior year, you hurt yourself and your boyfriend's like, fuck it, we can like, sit on the couch together.

• 14:59Hannah Berner?

  I think he was trying to find the positivity in the situation. I wouldn't like if you turned it into like, you're never around. And like, I hate it.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me give you more to the story. He actually quit his job because her fame got so big overnight that like, she's now all of a sudden like a Netflix star and I'm sure she's getting brand deals and whatever. She quits, she worked at a florist shop. Adorable, I mean, I can't. She quits her job, she's like doing influencing full time on the side.

• 15:30Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know people work, actually worked at florist shops. I thought that was just in movies.

• 15:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I think she like volunteered too, like.

• 15:38Hannah Berner?

  Oh, she's perfect.

• 15:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Made up person. She's a butterfly catcher.

• 15:44Hannah Berner?

  She makes rainbows.

• 15:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's like literally perfect. He quits his job to help her for whatever reason they can't make it work. It seems like, she got really big, the whole country was watching her. She blows up into like this Instagram influencer, this like Netflix star. She gets obviously inevitably a lot of hate along with a lot of love. I don't think she was expecting as much hate. I think it really did something to her.

• 16:14Hannah Berner?

  She was like, I work at a flower shop.

• 16:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, rather, and like, what are you hating on her for? Rather than kind of like persevering through it, she was basically like, I think I might take a step back and she had just got, only been married for a year. But I can't help but think he was scared or he didn't want her to continue to grow with her fame or like whatever. And he didn't want her to do the show anymore and he didn't want her to be on the team anymore. I also could be making this up.

• 16:45Hannah Berner?

  You could be fully projecting.

• 16:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I could, but he went on a pod and he said, her dream wasn't to be a Netflix star. Her dream was to be on the cheerleading team. And then he was asked a question, like, what were his thoughts on the cheerleaders, like, getting a raise? And he was like, no comment.

• 17:02Hannah Berner?

  No, you're right. You are, you're, look. Has your intuition ever been wrong?

• 17:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Never.

• 17:08Hannah Berner?

  Why would I steer you in a different direction? I need to say, did he leave a banana peel on the floor for her to trip? Like, was he, did he injure her?

• 17:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't prove it yet, but if you give me some time and a Sharpie, I could figure something out.

• 17:27Hannah Berner?

  Give me a whiteboard and we'll be there in about twenty minutes. Um, no, looking at that perspective, him not working and then like commenting on like how much money the girls are making. And so also like, if you don't go on a podcast unless you've done something.

• 17:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, also, a lot of the girls obviously had to have second jobs because they were making nothing. And I think still have to have second jobs if they're making a little bit more. And now in today's day and age, they can supplement with being influencers and like, take a little bit of a rest. Except the two coaches don't love.

• 18:02Hannah Berner?

  The influencing?

• 18:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, which I'm like, get with the, like.

• 18:07Hannah Berner?

  No, but it's like, then pay me what this brand deal is gonna pay me.

• 18:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they give, we struggled because the coaches were both on the team. The vibe they give is we struggled, we had to deal with it, so do you. Like, that's the energy it gives. And it's like, okay, well, then what's the point of women helping women?

• 18:26Hannah Berner?

  What's the word, um, when everything's more expensive over time?

• 18:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Inflation.

• 18:33Hannah Berner?

  Period.

• 18:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:34Hannah Berner?

  Also, just because it was fucked up in the past doesn't mean it has to be fucked up now. I still haven't got myself to watch it because I can tell I'm gonna get pissed off.

• 18:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I think for me, why I was like triggered by it is because I am someone that can also get down and be like, maybe I shouldn't even do this because everyone's gonna hate it and like, I can't really do it. And I need to be with someone that's like, what the hell are you talking about? Like, go, just try it, go do it, like, whatever. If I had someone that was like, yeah, this is really scary, maybe you shouldn't, it would, I couldn't, I couldn't do it.

• 19:10Hannah Berner?

  What did he do for a living before?

• 19:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It's an excellent question. I want to say he like worked at like a hardware store.

• 19:16Hannah Berner?

  I hate to do this, but if the roles were reversed and like he was a normal guy, got on this Netflix show, blew up, none of these guys are staying with like the girls who like love them for them.

• 19:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, like I always, you know who I always think about? Anna Faris and Chris, um, Pi- Pine? No.

• 19:36Hannah Berner?

  Pratt.

• 19:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Pratt. I just always think of like men who like have blown up and then left their wives.

• 19:44Hannah Berner?

  Not to feed into horrible rumors online.

• 19:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  Cause I would never.

• 19:50Paige DeSorbo?

  We would never.

• 19:51Hannah Berner?

  But people are like coming for Rihanna and ASAP Rocky's relationship right now. Have you seen?

• 19:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, what are they saying?

• 19:58Hannah Berner?

  I guess he like went on stage and talked about like how girls in Phoenix are beautiful or something and like on a Met Gala, people thought they were fighting.

• 20:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw Met Gala, people thought they were fighting.

• 20:09Hannah Berner?

  And people have turned, people are like Rihanna, get out.

• 20:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Interesting.

• 20:13Hannah Berner?

  But it also makes me think like how quiet she's been in her career. I like never, I mean, she's a billionaire and running Fenty and doing amazing, but like in terms of her art, I always wonder like, I don't know.

• 20:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, can I say something that I've actually never really liked him because one time I saw a clip? Like I've liked his songs before, but like a couple of years ago, this is maybe like four or five, I actually have no idea, three or four years ago. I saw a clip of him on a podcast and it was like, I forget whose it was. And I don't even remember what they were talking about. I want to say it was like in regards to like him modeling, but it was, he said something like, "Oh, well, I should get taken shopping because like I'm so good looking." Or like, yeah, I think it was like around when like those videos of like Lori Harvey, when she was like talking about how she's the prize, then like his resurfaced. I think that's when I saw it.

• 21:12Hannah Berner?

  And you, you hate that?

• 21:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was just like, wha- no, like this is, oh my God, I saw a clip the other day, you know the, we met at Acme, I love that girl. She had some guy on her podcast and he was like, here's a tip for the girls. Like, go up to guys at a bar and like, buy him a drink. And I'm like, over my dead fucking body, why don't I open the door for him as well? Pull out his chair and then buy the dinner? Like, no, no, we're not.

• 21:46Hannah Berner?

  We...

• 21:47Paige DeSorbo?

  We're not throwing him off one night and just like going on being like, hey, let me buy you a drink.

• 21:52Hannah Berner?

  Every time you approach a man, you can get murdered. So why would I also pay to get murdered?

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, my makeup costs more than this drink. My outfit costs more than this drink. Like, I don't need you to buy the drink. It's not about the money, it's about the gesture. If I needed someone to buy me a drink, I wouldn't be standing in a bar, that'd be insane. I can't afford it, why would I be there? Like, the men have really, literally, lost it.

• 22:20Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, we have no idea what's actually going on with any of the celebrity relationships. But it is so fun to take a clip and be like, this is what's going on.

• 22:27Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, autumn in New York is the season where we can finally start dressing again. Every single thing is an excuse to put on a look. Going to work? Outfit. Leading a meeting? Outfit. Getting drinks with your friends? Obviously outfit. And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with Allies from Sam Edelman. They're a ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer, and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too.

• 24:11Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:52Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:06Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:40Hannah Berner?

  And then Taylor and Trev, the wedding's coming up. There's murmurs, but they're doing a great job at...

• 27:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Keeping it quiet.

• 27:50Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, I think they haven't sent anyone information, which is so funny.

• 27:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you get the wedding blues?

• 27:59Hannah Berner?

  Was it before or after?

• 28:01Paige DeSorbo?

  It's after.

• 28:02Hannah Berner?

  Oh, no, I had, after my wedding, I was like, thank God, nothing went wrong. Everything was fun, everyone had fun. Photos were great. I feel amazing. People were like, once it's over, it's like you've nothing to look forward to. Like for me, first of all, also that

• 28:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 28:20Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't looking forward to it like it was the best day of my life. And second of all, I was like, just so happy it went well and I had such, I was just like grateful.

• 28:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think Taylor Swift is gonna like have the wedding blues? Or do you think she's like, this is like a great day, but it's not the best day of my life?

• 28:38Hannah Berner?

  I think she'll feel that way, but I mean, I do think she's like a little more romantic than me. Like I think she cares about the wedding more than me. She's a little, and I'm not trying to be like, pick me like, like you get around weddings and I'm chill. No, it's more just like, I actually didn't like the attention of like when I forced people to come to an event.

• 29:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:02Hannah Berner?

  Like I like, people want to come to see me like do stand up, not like cousins being there being like, we had to drive from the airport, I don't know, like that's just what I'm thinking like. It's like inviting people to a dinner for your birthday. I'm like, these people are busy, do they want to be here? Like that's my own issue.

• 29:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:21Hannah Berner?

  You know? So wedding is like that times a hundred. Also, it is nerve wracking. Like I got nervous when I was walking down the aisle.

• 29:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course. I cried when you walked down the aisle.

• 29:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I forgot you were there.

• 29:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Is this because I was mean to you this morning in DMs?

• 29:37Hannah Berner?

  No, it's just, I have a mental illness where like I don't know who was with me at any time.

• 29:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, also I feel like you like blackout at your wedding.

• 29:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like me and you didn't talk.

• 29:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 29:49Hannah Berner?

  You don't talk to people you know at your wedding.

• 29:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Can we talk about Mindy Kaling?

• 29:53Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. Okay. Everyone needs to watch. Not suitable for work. Do we want to tell them from day, the day one, how this, how we got involved? We got an email.

• 30:05Paige DeSorbo?

  We got an email from Mindy, yeah, from the Mindy Kaling and.

• 30:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just like, oh my god, obviously, we're doing this. And it was right before Thanksgiving, right?

• 30:18Hannah Berner?

  I thought it was spam. I was like, Mindy Kaling didn't write us an email. Okay, is she asking for 500 grand also? To send to a foreign country?

• 30:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Was this before Thanksgiving or before Christmas?

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  I have no recollection of time.

• 30:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I want to say it was right before one of the holidays.

• 30:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, the problem with TV, not the problem, but like you shoot something and then it's like years before it comes out.

• 30:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, so we go and we like kind, yeah, we like kind of had lines and Hannah had one.

• 30:54Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I was about to say, I feel like I was well behaved during this and I, I didn't do anything wrong. Never mind, continue.

• 31:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And here's the thing, when we get there, we're like obviously so giddy, so excited. This was production's last day of filming. So like, every single person was like, and this is the last day and we're finally done and like we're.

• 31:17Hannah Berner?

  We came in, we were like, hi, nice to meet everyone. How are you?

• 31:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, it felt like we came in at the end of a reality show and everyone was already like fighting and hated each other and we were like, what's going on here? Tell us about yourself.

• 31:30Hannah Berner?

  Honestly, the cast, the crew, everyone was so sweet. It just was like, they were wrapping up, like they were like, thank god it's the last day. And Paige were like, so where do we stand? Nice to meet you.

• 31:43Paige DeSorbo?

  But what was the old lang zine?

• 31:46Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Which is crazy because now I'll never forget it ever. So, mind you, Paige is really good at memorization. I'm not. And, but we were in our trailer practicing our little asses off. Like, we were like, again, again, like Russian gymnastic coaches.

• 32:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you.

• 32:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Then finally, I was like, okay, we got it. And then I just hear Hannah like doing it to herself like in her My god. You get like, it's the first time, okay, here's the thing, acting with you is the first time I ever see you double check your work. That's the way I can describe it. Like, anything else we do, like Giggly Squad, interview, podcast, hosting, you're like, we got this, like, not, like, you're not even worried.

• 32:37Hannah Berner?

  Like, maybe you should double check your work.

• 32:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Which calms, no, which calms me down. But then, like, we went into a set, a setting like that, and you're like, let me just practice one time? And then that makes me nervous, because I'm like-

• 32:49Hannah Berner?

  You were like, wait, you, you're unsure about yourself? Who's driving the ship?

• 32:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no, no, you can't be unsure.

• 32:58Hannah Berner?

  I was like, hey, can we try doing one more thing?

• 33:02Hannah Berner?

  We were doing good, and I was like, we're gonna crush this, like, we were vibing.

• 33:07Hannah Berner?

  My last line, or the last page, I'm basically, it's about, we're celebrating, um, old Lang Zein.

• 33:15Paige DeSorbo?

  We're celebrating New Year's Eve.

• 33:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and I have to say the word old Lang Zein. Mind you, I don't know where I've been my entire life, never heard this before.

• 33:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And everyone's like, you know the song that like, and Hannah's like-

• 33:29Hannah Berner?

  You know the song, old Lang Zein.

• 33:32Paige DeSorbo?

  She had been born-

• 33:33Hannah Berner?

  What is saying?

• 33:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Four hours prior. I was like, no, I've lived on this earth my entire life, I've never heard the name of that song.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  Obviously Dez, who's born in the fucking eighties, was like, how the fuck do you not know what old Lang Zein is? And I'm like, I can't talk to you right now. So then, for some reason, like, you know when you can't remember a word because you don't know what it is? Also, everyone kept going, old Lang Zein, old Lang Zein. I'm like, this, I've never heard this word, you guys are making this word up. You're making it up. And then they're like, playing the song for me, and I'm like, yeah, I know that song, no one calls it old Lang Zein, no one's ever called it anything in front of me. So I'm like.

• 34:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, plus, we're in, like, it's supposed to look like we're outside, but like, we're not. And so we're in, like, furs and Hannah's.

• 34:21Hannah Berner?

  I'm in a fur with, with a, what is it called earmuffs, fur earmuffs, inside. And I'm sweating, I'm feeling it.

• 34:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah and I have this joke that like, every time we get our makeup done, like, no matter what we're doing, like, ten minutes later, Hannah like, doesn't have any makeup on.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  You'll see the raw, pink skin on my face. Like a, like a new chicken.

• 34:53Hannah Berner?

  I have really, like, slippery skin.

• 35:04Hannah Berner?

  When we're on tour, by the second show, Paige is like, did you just wake up in the morning? Like, where is anything you put on your face?

• 35:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Why is that? Has anyone, what primer are you, do you use? No, really, no, really.

• 35:19Hannah Berner?

  I don't use, I don't use it.

• 35:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, there we go. There we go.

• 35:24Hannah Berner?

  Well, first of all, we meet Ashanti.

• 35:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:29Hannah Berner?

  Only you.

• 35:30Paige DeSorbo?

  She's so tiny in person.

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  By Ashanti.

• 35:34Hannah Berner?

  Everyone needs to listen to right now.

• 35:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I thought you were saying to, like, sing.

• 35:38Hannah Berner?

  The song, Only You.

• 35:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, only Paige.

• 35:40Hannah Berner?

  I can't wait to get next to you. Um, I just can't leave you alone.

• 35:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe when the mouth is.

• 35:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. That was just because my mouth, that wasn't because of my actual singing voice.

• 35:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, right, right, right, right.

• 35:54Hannah Berner?

  We know I'm the songwriter of our generation. So Ashanti put her in my pocket, um, we come on, I'm like, Ashanti, we're obsessed with you, we love you so much. And in my head, I'm like, do not fuck up in front of Ashanti, Mindy Kaling's entire production.

• 36:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:08Hannah Berner?

  And Paige, who already is doubting you. It was one of those lines where like, it's like, kind of long and old lang zine was the last word. So I would do this monologue and then get to it. And like, you know, when your brain does short circuits and I'd be like, zing, li, oh.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you were literally having an adult dazim. Like you were, I It was like, we would say it back to each other, like, old lang zine. And she was going, oh, and we got it. And then she'd do the whole thing. Like, she couldn't just do that part. She had to do it in its entirety. And it was

• 36:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh, but I was like, can we just get the pixie to post? Every time I got to it, I would say it a different way. I'd be like, zane lang, oh.

• 36:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the other thing, why, how we're different. When you mess up or like get embarrassed by something, you're, which I find so fascinating. You're louder. Like, you, you call more attention to yourself, almost as if to be like, "Look at how much I fucked up. Everyone should see this." You like, like, ultimate humiliation. Where I, if I fuck up or like I do something, silence. I've actually slipped into the back of the crowd. Like, you never see me again. Like, I'm running away, I'm leaving.

• 37:31Hannah Berner?

  I feel like that's a stand-up comic, and me to like, say what you're feeling, like,

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:35Hannah Berner?

  Just be outward about the moment. But like, it wasn't a scene of me and Paige. Like, we had real actors on set and a director. So then, how many times do you think I messed it up?

• 37:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I mean, we had to have done it at least fifteen times, right? Fifteen to twenty times, I would say. Here's the other thing that like,

• 37:57Hannah Berner?

  Zane lang, oh.

• 37:58Paige DeSorbo?

  That like you don't, people don't realize. You're doing it, you're doing it ten to fifteen times from one angle. Then you're doing it another ten to fifteen times from another, it's a whole thing.

• 38:11Hannah Berner?

  It's so funny. I like forgot that happened. Like, I blocked it out. That's how I deal with humiliation. I'm just like,

• 38:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, yeah.

• 38:17Hannah Berner?

  That wasn't me.

• 38:18Paige DeSorbo?

  That's actually probably really healthy.

• 38:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I'm not like, it's not keeping me up at night. I'm like, old lang zines are crazy. That's not English. So that's not my fault that I couldn't learn a new language day of.

• 38:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm getting a cyst pimple on my chin, which is like ruining my whole trip.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  I'm the wrong person for you to complain about that too right now, but I totally support you. But I would I would trade bodies in a second if I could.

• 38:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, so let's talk about it, like you're starting tomorrow and what did anyone say?

• 38:53Hannah Berner?

  Um, okay, I I showed up. Honestly, I'm getting better at not smiling. That's my problem because before I was like, just smile, push through. And now I'm just a nice queen.

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you tell Nana?

• 39:11Hannah Berner?

  I told Nana, but not like I didn't send her any photos. She's kind of like you.

• 39:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can't send her ugly pictures or she's like.

• 39:19Hannah Berner?

  She.

• 39:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Why would you put this on my phone? Why? They just attacked me. Why'd you put this on my phone?

• 39:26Hannah Berner?

  I just had an old memory pop up. I actually will put in the newsletter. Of Nana at my wedding, doing an outfit check. And she's literally telling every single thing she's wearing, like down to the earrings. She's so fucking cute.

• 39:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember that day she couldn't wear heels and she was pissed? Cause she had like done something to her foot.

• 39:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she was like fully injured. And she was upset. I think she was still wearing kitten heel.

• 39:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:52Hannah Berner?

  How are we related?

• 39:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:54Hannah Berner?

  She was wearing a little wedge and she was like apologizing to everyone. She was like, I'm so sorry that I'm wearing these disgusting little wedges.

• 40:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I don't know if you've noticed, but I look like a clown.

• 40:09Paige DeSorbo?

  It honestly, I like, I felt so bad because I was like, I know, I know that you can't even enjoy the day because you're livid. Like, I get it.

• 40:19Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's staring at these gross ass little wedges. Meanwhile, I like can't brush my hair.

• 40:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh, also, does the specials out. You watched it.

• 40:30Paige DeSorbo?

  My god, that's what I meant to bring up to you. It's so good.

• 40:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I have some giggers messaging me. They were like, they were like, because you love him, we love him. That's the only reason we're supporting, but we had, we really enjoyed the special.

• 40:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was so funny. I was so proud of him.

• 40:50Hannah Berner?

  Well, you texted, it's funny, you texted us in the group chat. And in my head, I was like, if they texted alone, that would be like, black magic would start happening. Like, I feel like you guys actually are scared of like, if you two actually, put your heads together to like, cast a spell on someone.

• 41:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me see if I texted him. Oh, you know what it was? I DM'd him.

• 41:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 41:13Paige DeSorbo?

  On my own. And then, yeah, texted it in the group.

• 41:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 41:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No, texting like, your friend's husband, alone, it feels like when like, HR like, calls you, you're like, wait, how do you have my number? And also like, no, this is scary.

• 41:31Hannah Berner?

  If someone's boyfriend's texting me, if it's not about a ring, I don't want to be involved.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, don't involve me. Actually, my friend Katie, her husband did, um, like, live updates while she was in giving labor, giving,

• 41:48Paige DeSorbo?

  birth?

• 41:48Hannah Berner?

  Live updates to who?

• 41:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, was doing them to all of her friends. So like, put everyone in like, a big group chat. It was just doing like, live updates.

• 41:58Hannah Berner?

  Wait, that's hilarious.

• 41:59Paige DeSorbo?

  That I appreciated.

• 42:01Hannah Berner?

  Was he good at like, giving details?

• 42:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he did fall off quite quickly.

• 42:07Hannah Berner?

  Because I'm like, that's not, doesn't sound, like, a good job for him. I'm like, give it to the mom, give it to the aunt, give it to a Gen Z cousin.

• 42:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he did a good job because he is quite funny. So, um, they were like, cute little paragraphs. But anyway.

• 42:21Hannah Berner?

  We also have an update, um, the Nun Podcast, DM'd us.

• 42:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop.

• 42:29Hannah Berner?

  Sisters of Mary, OP. And they sent us the sweetest message. They said,

• 42:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course. Imagine they sent a really bitchy message.

• 42:39Hannah Berner?

  They go, next on Taggabitch.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine two nuns were like, hey, you fucking twats.

• 42:44Hannah Berner?

  They go, our culture is not your costume. We're not praying for you. You're off of the pray party. So they said, hey, thanks for tagging us in your video. It was a delightful take on your podcast. A delightful take?

• 42:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to say delightful more in my everyday jargon.

• 43:02Hannah Berner?

  Delightful take. She goes, I love that we share a real love of laughter. You wouldn't believe how much we laughed. Okay, maybe you would. Obsessed with them. They're hilarious.

• 43:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed.

• 43:11Hannah Berner?

  Let's just say the podcast is true to life. It runs deep in our tradition.

• 43:16Paige DeSorbo?

  This is good for the gigglers. It's good to know that nuns know us.

• 43:20Hannah Berner?

  She basically said, laugh to your heart's content. You've broken free from evil. Laughter is the right response. And ever since then, we take the chance to laugh for every good reason. Um, may your days be filled with genuine laughter that comes from knowing God's love. Thank you, Sisters of Mary.

• 43:38Paige DeSorbo?

  That is the sweetest.

• 43:41Hannah Berner?

  I think they just blessed us.

• 43:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I know. That's so nice.

• 43:45Hannah Berner?

  Bless you? Like, that was a bless? Is your mom's gonna be so happy?

• 43:50Paige DeSorbo?

  My mom's gonna be elated.

• 43:52Hannah Berner?

  She's like, you're going to heaven now. The Sisters of Mary.

• 43:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know that my mom and dad watch our podcast every night while they watch dinner or while they eat dinner? They watch it on YouTube?

• 44:03Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm gonna cry.

• 44:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, Mom, but it's only two times a week. So what are you doing the other nights? And she goes, well, we watch the same one till the new one comes.

• 44:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna cry.

• 44:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Sick.

• 44:17Hannah Berner?

  I love them so much. Also, meanwhile, your brother's like, hey, I'm here.

• 44:27Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, Mom, we don't like anything else on TV. We just want you guys.

• 44:33Hannah Berner?

  Also, I love how they're probably numb to me. Like, in the beginning, they were like, I'm not sure about her. And now they're like, oh, Hannah's the sweetest, kindest, most innocent girl we've ever met. She doesn't mean anything.

• 44:46Paige DeSorbo?

  My dad will call me and he'll be like, you know, you just like sit there and you just laugh at everything Hannah says. You just think she's... I've never seen you laugh at anyone. You just think everything she says is funny. I'm like, because it is. Sorry for laughing with my friend.

• 45:06Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, the Sisters of Mary told us that it was good to laugh because then it gets evil away. We literally are curing evil spirits.

• 45:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:15Hannah Berner?

  Also, I posted a stand-up. One of my favorite jokes from the stand-up special was making fun of guys going down on you.

• 49:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:23Hannah Berner?

  And to make sure guys go down on you early, because you learn about who they are as a person when they're going down on you. And I say, like, if a guy, if you don't know how to get him to go down on you, I say, you should just push his head down. Do you remember that being a thing?

• 49:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 49:38Hannah Berner?

  You're like, still is.

• 49:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I remember it being like a, like a controversy. Like, I remember girls talking about, I remember girls saying like, and then he pushed my head, and another girl being like, are you kidding me?

• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  So I think it's so feminist to push a guy's head.

• 49:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:58Hannah Berner?

  Lightly, nicely, but like, to be like, and no kissy kissy, that's hilarious. But, um, at the end, the end joke, I basically, it ends with a period joke. And I was looking through the comic, comments, and sometimes the posts hit, like, just these random men. And these men, the comments are so funny, like, guys, I really get the biggest kick out of it. This guy goes, girl comics, all they do is start with sex and then end about their periods. And I was like, that is so fucking true, Steve.

• 50:33Hannah Berner?

  Basically, how every girl comic talks about sex and their periods. And then this one bit I posted was like, all of it. So this guy's head was like exploding. He's like, she talks about sex and her period in one joke? What the fuck?

• 50:46Paige DeSorbo?

  God forbid we talk about what we know.

• 50:48Hannah Berner?

  I was like, I talked about my husband's dead parents in the last clip, so I do have range.

• 50:53Paige DeSorbo?

  So how dare you?

• 50:54Hannah Berner?

  How dare you? Take it up with him.

• 50:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you get sad when I go to Italy for two weeks, like, just knowing that I'm, like, if something were to happen, you can't get to me?

• 51:04Hannah Berner?

  Great question.

• 51:07Hannah Berner?

  I love that you're trying to instill anxiety.

• 51:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I am far away.

• 51:11Hannah Berner?

  I've never been more anxious than when you were in Fiji. Which is really weird because it was before that thing happened to you, but I just remember looking at my phone, Googling Fiji and it was the middle of the ocean and I was like, do they have like Dunkin' Donuts? Like, are you okay?

• 51:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I had to go home.

• 51:30Hannah Berner?

  But you going to Italy, I honestly feel like I like live vicariously through you. Like, I feel like I'm about to go to Italy. Like, I'm like, what are we wearing? What, like, send me the food, like, and I don't have to deal with any logistics.

• 51:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's how I felt when you were in Sports Illustrated. I was like, and now I don't have to prep for that.

• 51:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you didn't have to do this. That's literally how I feel. Like, I don't have to pack. I don't have to find boats. I don't have to get hotel reservations. I have to sit and wait in line for things, but I get to get, see all the, the fun of it all. And then like, it's gonna be so fun when you get on the phone and you'll be like, I just had a gelato. Like, I'm excited for that.

• 52:07Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so funny because I texted my dad yesterday and I said, Dad, I think we're gonna get more ice cream in the middle of the day this year.

• 52:14Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah, I was gonna say, compared to you, because now you, this is like your third or fourth.

• 52:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:18Hannah Berner?

  Like, similar trip. I love that you guys are like, this works, we're doing it again. What are you, what are you changing? What do you think you could do better this year that you've done in previous years? Besides different invites, I'm assuming.

• 52:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually think I could eat more. Because, okay, here's like one of, one of the ways my anxiety also like manifests.

• 52:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 52:41Paige DeSorbo?

  If everyone's like dinner at seven PM, like, okay, everyone's going back to their room, getting ready for dinner. Like, oh, my God, I've been hungry all day. I didn't eat lunch or late because I wanted to be hungry for dinner. Right when I sit down to dinner, not hungry. Like, can't eat when I'm told you have to eat. Like, I'd rather go back, I'd rather sit at dinner, not eat, go back to my room, order room service, eat.

• 53:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 53:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I don't know why that happens to me.

• 53:11Hannah Berner?

  I have the opposite. I sit down at dinner and I'm like, I'm so hungry and ravenous. I, I'm gonna embarrass everyone around me by how hungry and how fast I'm gonna eat this food. And I wish I could be normal and not shove this entire pancetta in my mouth.

• 53:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, Italy really is the perfect place for you because. If you don't eat your whole plate, so like then it's stressful when I'm not hungry and I'm not eating because then they take offense to it and they come over and they're like, what's going on? Like you didn't like it, like I'll bring you something else.

• 53:41Hannah Berner?

  No, no, they show up with a fucking gun and they say, what happened?

• 53:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And so I'm like, they're literally holding me with a knife. Like I'm like, I don't, I'm like, I have anxiety and like, here's the thing, like everyone's eating and I, if everyone's eating, then I can't.

• 53:56Hannah Berner?

  They're like, was it the sauce? And not the perfect because it's the best sauce and all.

• 54:02Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm going into this trip mentally telling myself, you're eating when it's time for dinner.

• 54:10Hannah Berner?

  But I don't think that's gonna work. That's not gonna work. You can't just tell yourself to do it. What you have to do is not make a big deal about it.

• 54:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, act nonchalant about it.

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  Yes, like, like, like you're about to pet a cat.

• 54:21Paige DeSorbo?

  So not worry about what time I'm eating lunch because in case I'm not hungry for dinner, but it doesn't matter.

• 54:28Hannah Berner?

  If you start obsessing over like being ready to eat, the second you get there, your body's gonna be like, this is what we were stressed about.

• 54:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think it's also because of course, of course, I have this like weird thing where I can't go to the bathroom when I'm on vacation. So like I'm backed up for a couple of days.

• 54:46Hannah Berner?

  I didn't want to factor that in.

• 54:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So I think it's like a lot, but it's only, it's only ever on vacation. Actually, no, sometimes like.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  On tour, were you backed up? Well, we had that there.

• 54:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but sometimes if I'm going out for like a Saturday night and I'm going out with like four couples, I'm like, I'm not hungry. But if I'm going out just like myself, hungry.

• 55:09Hannah Berner?

  It's crazy though, because when I, when I rarely can't eat, I get so embarrassed. Like yesterday on set, I was like, obviously a little nervous and they brought me food and I tried to eat and I couldn't eat. And then afterwards people came in and I like hadn't eaten and I, I like had to say something. I was like, I'm sorry. I, I eat a lot of mashed potatoes.

• 55:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Where did you get mashed potatoes?

• 55:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Our lives are so different. Like, where, where were you eating mashed potatoes prior to?

• 55:45Hannah Berner?

  They had brought me like a thing of mashed potatoes and all this meat and like whatever. And I didn't eat any of the meat, but I did eat mashed potatoes. And I was like, there was actually a lot of mashed. Like, I was trying to explain to these people that I ate more than it looked. And then, one thing that I've learned, no one gives a fuck about what's going on with you. No one gives a fuck. I don't care out with no fucking smile, no one's noticed. No one's noticed. Everyone's worried about their own shit.

• 56:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No one cares. No one cares.

• 56:15Hannah Berner?

  No one cares.

• 56:16Paige DeSorbo?

  That's another part of anxiety, like, oh my god, everybody's looking at me. Everyone thinks I look like soup. No one gives a shit, they're all worried about their own shit. They're in their own head, thinking the same thing you're thinking.

• 56:28Hannah Berner?

  But then something like Old Lang Syne, I'm like, everyone's like, you should know what that is.

• 56:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 56:32Hannah Berner?

  What if you went there and said, I know I'm not gonna eat. I know I'm not gonna eat at this place.

• 56:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I've done, I've tried that.

• 56:39Hannah Berner?

  You've tried, yeah. Well, it's, now it's become a thing, um...

• 56:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Even, it's become a thing, even to the point where my mom's like, I'll push the reservation. So now we go to dinner at like 8pm.

• 56:52Hannah Berner?

  To make sure that you can like eat a little.

• 56:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Paige might not be hungry yet.

• 56:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? It's a beautiful problem to have. That you're in Italy. Should we eat the pesto now, eat it later?

• 57:06Paige DeSorbo?

  So my thing is, I'm just gonna eat all day and say, and fuck it. I don't care, I'm just eating when I wanna eat.

• 57:14Hannah Berner?

  I do think also vacations, having like set times to eat with a group is fucking stressful.

• 57:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, this year I told my mom to leave like a couple days where there's no dinner reservations because sometimes it's, it's too much. Like, you literally, I'm like, I'll actually throw up if I put another thing in my mouth.

• 57:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And it's also, like, becomes like a military operation when it's like, and then we go back, and then we shower, and then we come back out, and then we change, then we go shower again, and then we sleep, and then we wake up.

• 57:45Paige DeSorbo?

  The menu is the same every single place.

• 57:48Hannah Berner?

  What is the menu?

• 57:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Just like pastas and...

• 57:52Hannah Berner?

  It just says pasta.

• 57:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Like seafoods and like, but it's like the si- you get the vibe. Like I literally get linguine, like linguine and clam, ravioli. There's gnocchi, there's spaghetti, there's everything.

• 58:05Hannah Berner?

  Obsessed.

• 58:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever, I'm so excited. I'm really excited. I got a new book. And I'm excited to read my book and I'm excited to talk to my mom.

• 58:15Hannah Berner?

  Tell the club what the book is.

• 58:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, it's called Magnolia Park. And a girl DM'd me and was like, it's a big, it's a big book.

• 58:25Hannah Berner?

  How big are the words?

• 58:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We'll see. But she was like, it's about socialites in London and it's like chic and cool and I feel like you would like it. And so I'm gonna try it. And I'm giving my mom, I finished Strangers, I'm giving that to my mom for her to read on the trip.

• 58:41Hannah Berner?

  Wait, my mom read it too.

• 58:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we're just like, I love being in a book club.

• 58:46Hannah Berner?

  That's so fun.

• 58:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I really enjoy reading recently, it's just like...

• 58:52Hannah Berner?

  Wait, what have you read since the first one?

• 58:54Paige DeSorbo?

  That's it.

• 59:01Hannah Berner?

  You literally like...

• 59:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I read all the text messages you've been...

• 59:08Hannah Berner?

  I didn't see you going to Barnes and Noble, taking a book, reading the back of it and being like, I love reading.

• 59:17Hannah Berner?

  I love books. They're so pretty.

• 59:24Hannah Berner?

  What is on the week? I didn't know that Lisa Barlow has a song out.

• 59:28Paige DeSorbo?

  What is it?

• 59:29Hannah Berner?

  Gorgeous, baby gorgeous.

• 59:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I haven't seen it.

• 59:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, I posted a photo of me not smiling in this Uber. And the song was recommended and I pressed it and it was cute. And I thought it, this is no hate, no tea, no shade. I love Taylor Swift, I'm a Swiftie. I thought it was a Taylor Swift song.

• 59:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No way. Wait, I need to play it now.

• 59:52Hannah Berner?

  She has like a like, nice voice. Like, yeah, it's autotuned and stuff. Which housewife doesn't autotune? Like...

• 59:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 59:59Hannah Berner?

  Let's stop. Who's, Charlie fucking XCX is autotuning. Don't get mad at Lisa Barlow. But like, it was, low key, I thought it was like kind of a...

• 1:00:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Bop?

• 1:00:07Hannah Berner?

  Bop.

• 1:00:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Nice.

• 1:00:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you love Lisa Barlow, right?

• 1:00:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm gonna look out for that.

• 1:00:12Hannah Berner?

  I think you guys should look out for that. Um, what is pissing you off this week?

• 1:00:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, I didn't have anything piss me off really this week, other than like the usual.

• 1:00:21Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did I tell you, speaking of you reading, do you know I woke up this morning and I ran on the treadmill?

• 1:00:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, you're going through.

• 1:00:28Hannah Berner?

  I do triathlons now. No, I'm in a dark, really dark way.

• 1:00:37Paige DeSorbo?

  How long, how far?

• 1:00:39Hannah Berner?

  Well, I got there. Also, this is a foreign, I'm in a foreign country.

• 1:00:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:44Hannah Berner?

  I'm in Toronto. I'm in a foreign gym, never been, you know, like, I like to go to a gym that like I've scoped out before. I know where the things are. I go into this gym blind. Thank God, there was no one at the treadmill. And I ran for like ten minutes at like five and a half, which I thought was really good. Walked, then LL Cool J head sprung, came on, that got me through another ten minutes, on and off.

• 1:01:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Try some twelve three thirty.

• 1:01:12Hannah Berner?

  I just feel like I need, I wanna sweat more faster. And then I, I did it and I actually felt really good about myself, but also I felt like weird, like, why are you doing this? But I was like, I have to sweat this out. And then as I'm walking, some man was like, hey, I loved your special. And I was like, I'm really like vulnerable at the gym right now. I, I can't smile right now. I just got botox in the wrong place. And I'm, I don't feel good. So besides getting accosted, that's like never happened to me before. And I don't know why it would happen now.

• 1:01:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't go, I don't go to those places, types of places.

• 1:01:53Hannah Berner?

  All the decor also, like the floors, everything's black and it just seems really depressing. Like, why can't we make it like?

• 1:02:00Paige DeSorbo?

  The light situation.

• 1:02:02Hannah Berner?

  It, there was lights, it was nice, but like, why are gyms so dark? Like, give me some, I want like a Pilates studio vibe. Where's the candles?

• 1:02:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a girl.

• 1:02:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, let me run on a treadmill, but also like a sound bath be going, like.

• 1:02:19Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Wait, what's Palo Santo? Where's the Palo Santo? I've never said Palo Santo in my life. Um, you guys, thank you so much for giggling. Thank you, um, for helping me through a dark time. And everyone, send Paige well wishes for her travels to Italy.

• 1:02:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you.

• 1:02:42Hannah Berner?

  And we love you so much.

• 1:02:43Paige DeSorbo?

  See ya.

• 1:02:44Hannah Berner?

  Bye.

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