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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:35Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:33Hannah Berner?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the wifi.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  What is up my gravitational giggler?

• 3:50Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a new one. It's a good one.

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  So, we did our first second episode.

• 3:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 3:55Hannah Berner?

  And we, if you guys haven't noticed, we're in a new studio and our YouTube's now have full bodies. And I am just crumbling under the pressure of getting an outfit together for this.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Because we're used to having a table in front of us. And also, I see so many people do like podcast clips and I'm like, oh, shoot, they blew their hair out. They put on a good outfit. And then everyone, and then my mom's like, you, you love outfits, you love clothes. Why do you show up to Giggly Squad and you always look a mess?

• 4:22Hannah Berner?

  Well, you pretended to work out this morning.

• 4:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Pretended to work out this morning. Also, I'm one week before my periods. My boobs are like huge.

• 4:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah. Take advantage.

• 4:33Paige DeSorbo?

  What was I just saying?

• 4:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, I dressed up like a 90s bully.

• 4:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. But Hannah said something so not Hannah. She was like, let's say what our outfits are. Where, where does one even get that t-shirt?

• 4:46Hannah Berner?

  This is a brand called Only New York. And then I'm actually wearing these A-Gold, Agoldy, Agolda jeans, barrel.

• 4:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Thank you for leaving the best for last. What the hell are on your feet? I've never seen a Mary Jane Adidas. I didn't even know they made those.

• 5:07Hannah Berner?

  Look, I don't do ballet flats unless you can run a known. And sorry for all you audio listeners.

• 5:12Paige DeSorbo?

  You gotta go to YouTube. That's a diabolical shoe. And you want to know what? When I was with you the other day.

• 5:17Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, like Velcro. Sorry. I don't want to tie my shoe like an adult.

• 5:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually meant to bring this up to you the other day because

• 5:23Hannah Berner?

  Put your finger down.

• 5:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I had to run downstairs and I couldn't find my shoes on like Tuesday when we hung out. And so I put yours on and as I slipped them on, I was like, what the fuck are these?

• 5:38Hannah Berner?

  There's some people like, I can't, when I see a traditional shoe, I'm like, I can't work with this. Like, I need otherworldly shapes.

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because like when a heel croc came out, I was like, that's like a joke. I thought they were doing like a

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  A bit.

• 5:52Paige DeSorbo?

  April Fools joke. Like, oh, my God, look, we do heels. Not really. It's just for like the shoot. And you were like, I'm buying them. I have all the gibbous.

• 6:00Hannah Berner?

  Look, the Hannah Coated Girls send me the craziest sneaker heels all the time. And I'm like, thank you, bot.

• 6:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone sent me orthopedic heels. Was it you, actually?

• 6:11Hannah Berner?

  That's just orthopedic heels and cats on my feed.

• 6:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You said you have a lot to talk about. Yeah.

• 6:17Hannah Berner?

  Real quick, just promo. Paige and I have been hanging out.

• 6:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's actually not good for the business of the podcast.

• 6:23Hannah Berner?

  I have no motivation, but I have to go back on tour. Not have to. It's game time. I just have to get out of vacation mode to go on tour. I'm going to Idaho on Wednesday. So Idaho, Oliver, Colorado, LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Nashville, Atlanta, Durham, Charlotte, Indianapolis, Milwaukee. We're going. So I'm about to blackout for two months and then I shoot the Hulu special. February 28th in Toronto.

• 6:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, are you gonna take a beta blocker?

• 6:53Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I'm about to, I have to warn you guys, the two weeks before I shoot the special, I'm gonna be in psychosis. Like,

• 6:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:59Hannah Berner?

  I'm be talking on the pod, but I'm gonna be like so in my head.

• 7:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never seen you like nervous for anything except the week before you did your special. You were not yourself at all.

• 7:10Hannah Berner?

  No, I had to like apologize to people when I walked in a room. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be weird. I don't know who I am or what I'm doing. I do think though, because it's my second special, I know what to expect. And it's gonna make me a lot more calm. The Netflix thing, it's like, I've never filmed a special, so I just, everything that could go wrong, I was like worried about going wrong.

• 7:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:31Hannah Berner?

  Repeatedly in my head for every day. And anyway, it was a dark existence, but I'm

• 7:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And now we're back.

• 7:36Hannah Berner?

  And I'm like, why don't we do it again? No, I'm like, I feel a lot better. Yeah.

• 7:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And where are you filming it again?

• 7:42Hannah Berner?

  Toronto.

• 7:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right, right, right.

• 7:43Hannah Berner?

  Toronto. The Toronto Girls are amazing, insane.

• 7:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And you filmed it last time in Philly.

• 7:49Hannah Berner?

  In Philly.

• 7:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:50Hannah Berner?

  I love how also you get off on, in your comfortable exercise outfit, looking at me going, so where you have to go?

• 7:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, wow, I have no plans this week. Uh, maybe I'll wear my pink workout set tomorrow.

• 8:02Hannah Berner?

  But don't worry, Giggly Squad, you know, I'm gonna get your ass back on tour.

• 8:07Paige DeSorbo?

  So are we, was this weird, like, gonna up our outfits? Or no, we're gonna stay ourselves?

• 8:13Hannah Berner?

  I, I only have so much to give to this world.

• 8:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I just feel like when I do Giggly Squad, I can't be in an outfit that I would normally socialize in or go out in because that's a persona of me.

• 8:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's fake.

• 8:26Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a fake person that you meet on the street.

• 8:28Hannah Berner?

  That's a character that I wrote.

• 8:30Paige DeSorbo?

  That I've created, okay?

• 8:32Hannah Berner?

  She has made up motives and plot lines.

• 8:35Paige DeSorbo?

  She's annoying, honestly. Okay, with her fucking ballet flats, she's annoying. Um, anyhow.

• 8:42Hannah Berner?

  No, I have a lot for us to talk about. Well, okay, let's get the gross stuff out.

• 8:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 8:47Hannah Berner?

  I did something so embarrassing this morning. I was at a nice coffee shop with my husband.

• 8:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 8:52Hannah Berner?

  It was really quiet, birds chirping.

• 8:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like 8:30 a.m.

• 8:56Hannah Berner?

  And I decided to get a croissant.

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  And immediately I felt like I had to fart.

• 9:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 9:03Hannah Berner?

  And, but it was like a little one.

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you in line?

• 9:06Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm sitting at a table.

• 9:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, inside, but...

• 9:09Hannah Berner?

  Out, outdoors.

• 9:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay, outdoors.

• 9:10Hannah Berner?

  Outdoors. And I feel like I have to fart, so it's outdoors. It's a free country. And it was like a little one. But you know when it's a little one and somehow it comes out like with a trumpet? Like, the smaller it is, the like louder it is and like the higher pitch it is.

• 9:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'd actually kill myself.

• 9:25Hannah Berner?

  So I'm sitting with my husband and he goes, "Ah."

• 9:29Hannah Berner?

  And...

• 9:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah!

• 9:30Hannah Berner?

  I don't react, cuz that's, look, as a girl, if you don't react, a man will be blamed.

• 9:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:36Hannah Berner?

  So I just sit there. And Dez is, this is actually my, like, least favorite part about him. He's one of those people who's like, "You farted!" Like, it's...

• 9:43Paige DeSorbo?

  He's like a call-out person.

• 9:45Hannah Berner?

  He's a snitch. I'm like, whose team are you on?

• 9:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I didn't see that for him.

• 9:49Hannah Berner?

  Cuz he thinks it's funny.

• 9:51Paige DeSorbo?

  The only time I've ever been like, Dez, is like, one time you were telling a story and he was like, "That's not what happened till right now."

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  No, he does that... He, no, that's

• 10:00Paige DeSorbo?

  That's exactly, this is, this is, she's performing.

• 10:02Hannah Berner?

  You guys, listen to the last Birdie Phone episode. My biggest pet peeve is I say a story and he goes, no, that's not what happened. And I go, oh my God, I was adding Janice Aquois.

• 10:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you were adding.

• 10:11Hannah Berner?

  Adding spice. And he's like, and he's a wolf on par the store. It can't be part of your lie. And I go, lie? That was a fucking incredible monologue.

• 10:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Sprinkles on it, like, give me a break.

• 10:22Hannah Berner?

  So he also, it's, there's a thing with relationships where at the point where like even yesterday, we were going to get dinner with you and he, I was like, I want to be early. And he's like, you only like to be early around Paige. And I'm like, well, I respect her.

• 10:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe you said that because literally right before we were going to dinner, I was like, well, Hannah's not going to be on time. She's always like 10 minutes late.

• 10:43Hannah Berner?

  So Des was like, is Paige going to be late? And I'm like, she's going to be early or like exactly on time. And it was a 30 minute drive and I was like, I'm not risking it. And he literally goes, you act so different with Paige.

• 10:54Hannah Berner?

  I was like, sorry, we never go out to dinner. And like, this is a big deal for me.

• 10:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I haven't socialized in New York in three years. And I've gone out every single night in Miami.

• 11:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I'm calling friends I haven't talked to in 10 years. Wait, this actually, literally the other day, I, I was like texting a girlfriend that I knew in college and we've, we've been friends since college, but we're not the type of friends where I'm like, what are you doing this weekend? We're the type of friends where like every two months we'll like check in or something, but it's never like deep, deep.

• 11:29Hannah Berner?

  It's a story replier.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  We're, we're casual friends. Then I had another girlfriend who I've been also friends with for 10 years. Haven't seen her in probably like five, but again, like we keep up with each other. Like we'll talk every once in a while, whatever. All three of us hung out and every woman has the same experience all the time. Like we're just all the same. Like we all sat down and we were like, oh my God, like, how are you? Like, what's going on? And then the first girl goes, well, I'm so annoyed with my husband.

• 12:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Well, you want to hear what I'm dealing with? And I was like, okay, this took four minutes and 30 seconds and we're back.

• 12:08Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can I say something?

• 12:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No, wait, it felt, no, I'm not finished. It felt so relieving because.

• 12:16Paige DeSorbo?

  There's something when you're in your 30s and you see a friend from your 20s, instinctually, you're like, well, I'm so different and this is how.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 12:26Paige DeSorbo?

  But also, I'm still the same. And you almost feel like you have to impress them a little bit. But when they're like your true friends, it's like, okay, what's like really going on? And you're like, okay, well, actually, and it felt so nice.

• 12:38Hannah Berner?

  We hate socializing, but I realize now, when you're socializing with the right people, it's good for your mental health because they're a mirror. So like, it's healthy for you to see how other people see you, especially when you see yourself like shit sometimes.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 12:52Hannah Berner?

  So to see other people be like, wait, but me too, like, we're the same is mentally healthy. So.

• 12:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And there's like times where you're like, only I feel this and only I'm going through this. And I can't tell anyone because they're gonna think I'm weird or like, whatever. And then you say it.

• 13:07Hannah Berner?

  And they finish your sentence.

• 13:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And they're like, yeah, I dealt with that last week.

• 13:10Hannah Berner?

  Literally yesterday, this morning. That was like us with the gigglers when you had a panic attack. And I was like, who had a panic attack this week? And they were like, one, two, three, me. Um, so I farted at the coffee shop.

• 13:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right.

• 13:23Hannah Berner?

  And I try not to pull it. And Dez is staring at me, like a film staring at me. And he goes, did you just? And I start going, I start laughing. He goes, are you? Oh, my God.

• 13:31Paige DeSorbo?

  The confidence you even have to do that, like, I would have literally risked.

• 13:36Hannah Berner?

  Women need to take up space.

• 13:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I would have literally risked my stomach exploding inside my body.

• 13:43Hannah Berner?

  This is the thing, I'm an avid farter. So like, I know the ways to get around it. I got unlucky where there was no bird chirping in that moment. And he was like dead silent. I'm just in New York City. Okay. You can fart anywhere in New York City and you are like, there's a fucking like building exploding. And of course I could fart in New York City. We're in Miami and there's like no one, everything is peaceful.

• 14:04Paige DeSorbo?

  You can do anything on the street of New York City. Like, I'm not kidding.

• 14:07Hannah Berner?

  I could projectile vomit and no one would know.

• 14:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And people would just be like, are you okay? Okay.

• 14:13Hannah Berner?

  So he looks at me and then he starts looking around. I'm like, stop. And he starts dying laughing. And he goes, those people heard.

• 14:19Paige DeSorbo?

  A hundred percent, Hannah. A hundred percent. This is the reality. This is the public. We're out on this, like, yeah, they heard. They have the ears.

• 14:28Hannah Berner?

  So then I'm like, we have to go now.

• 14:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I would assume so.

• 14:31Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, I have a whole sandwich left, but I was like, we have to go.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  The owner's like walking out like we do have to go.

• 14:40Hannah Berner?

  Excuse me ma'am, we don't, there's too many hot people Miami, you can't do this. But I look back and the girl has her AirPods in and I'm like, she has her AirPods and we're good. And he goes, no, it was the family over there. And I'm like, whole family, we gotta go.

• 14:53Paige DeSorbo?

  They're Paul, they're trying to have a vacation.

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  So we left, also not to call Dez out again, but speaking of you talking to your friends and having this amazing, beautiful connection.

• 15:04Hannah Berner?

  This, I have to say, what happened? I'm at breakfast and this.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that for years of this podcast, every story that you've told, I'm at dinner, I'm at breakfast. So I'm at this lunch.

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  My life surrounds meals. Okay, so this particular meal, it's at breakfast and this handsome guy walks by.

• 15:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:26Hannah Berner?

  And he looks at me and I'm like, obviously I'm so good looking. And he goes, hey, um, can you give Paige my number?

• 15:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop.

• 15:36Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I kind of like paused because I'm your gatekeeper and I was like, what's going on?

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You told me that.

• 15:43Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 15:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I think he DM'd me.

• 15:45Hannah Berner?

  And I said, well, I just looked at him and I was like, why are you single? Because he's 36, handsome, what happened? And he's like, I'm going through a separation. And I was like, okay.

• 15:54Paige DeSorbo?

  From a wife or like a step?

• 15:56Hannah Berner?

  Who knows? But the man is bleeding out, he's vulnerable. I said, okay, we'll see what we could do.

• 16:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 16:00Hannah Berner?

  But then the next day Dez, Dez wakes up at like at the crack of dawn. Comes back to the hotel room at like 10 a.m. And I'm like slowly getting up. And he's like, I just hung out with that guy for like an hour at the coffee shop. And I was so immediate, I go.

• 16:16Paige DeSorbo?

  So my future husband has already, you want to know what? That's what I want from a future husband. I want you to stalk me. I want you to change your name, infiltrate my life. Be like, I've been obsessed with you for years.

• 16:30Hannah Berner?

  If he wanted to, he will.

• 16:31Paige DeSorbo?

  If he wanted to, he would.

• 16:33Hannah Berner?

  So immediately I'm like, this is amazing. I'm about to get like so much tea. I go, so what happened with the separation? Dez goes, what? And I go, he got, he's going through a separation. Like what's happening? He goes, no, we talked about cars. He goes, I'm not asking about his personal life. I go, if a girl was going through a separation and she was just washing her hands in the bathroom, I would know about it.

• 16:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so

• 16:57Hannah Berner?

  If I'm in an elevator with a girl who's going through a separation, I would smell it and be like, fuck that dude. And she'd be like, I know, you know what he did? And I go, tell me what he did. There are girls in my DMs who have told me more details.

• 17:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, now my DMs from the girls who are like, hey, I know you said on the pod, don't DM you about your boyfriend problem because you're just gonna say break up with him, but listen to this one. But it's the same answer.

• 17:20Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, um, men, they like, respect each other's privacy in a way that, um,

• 17:24Paige DeSorbo?

  is stupid.

• 17:25Hannah Berner?

  I don't respect.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you wanna know what? It's in a selfish way.

• 17:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, cuz they never had to in life. They never had to be like, I need help.

• 17:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Um, okay. I've been dying to talk about it since we started. Since we talked about it on the pod last time, the toxic mom group.

• 17:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I just love it.

• 17:43Hannah Berner?

  So this is my problem.

• 17:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so obsessed with it.

• 17:45Hannah Berner?

  I can't get myself to read a full cut article because the words are so small and I

• 17:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, they're so small. Why do they do that?

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  So I keep being like, what do I do with my time? Ooh, I'll read Ashley Tisdale's article now and I can't get to it. I can't do it. Did you read it?

• 17:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 18:02Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so without reading the article, what is the current update?

• 18:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, there was this article that I did read that was like, I think like page six or something.

• 18:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 18:10Paige DeSorbo?

  About, um, Ashley Tisdale and Vanessa Hutchins and how they used to be really good friends, which I completely forgot that they were like always out together and then ran, but even after.

• 18:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 18:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I feel like COVID happened and then I like forgot about them. But the article said that when Austin Butler broke up with Vanessa, Ashley stayed better friends with Austin because they were all friends. And Vanessa felt like she supported him more, so then they stopped talking.

• 18:40Hannah Berner?

  Wow.

• 18:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And when I read that, I was just like, you know what's so crazy is like, you're in high school, fucked up shit happens to you, you like, learn about different people's personalities, what like friendship is like, and you're like, oh, I never have to deal with that again. Then you get to college, you have one year where like, you're just like, no, I'm switching all my, I, why was I friends with them? Or like, something happens. And you're like, I'll never deal with that again cuz I'm not in school. Like now I'm an adult, I'm in the workplace.

• 19:11Hannah Berner?

  You were gonna say workforce.

• 19:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I was.

• 19:13Hannah Berner?

  We are in the workforce.

• 19:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We are in the workforce. Then you get to an office and you're like, wait a minute.

• 19:20Hannah Berner?

  Dude, office politics?

• 19:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Offices are so scary. Then you're like, okay, whatever. That's like a professional. It's not in my personal life. I don't have to deal with it. Every stage of a woman's life, I feel like there's some type of situation where like you have to.

• 19:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just like something happens with your friends where I actually applaud the men for that because you never hear of that. You never hear of guys being like, he was my best friend all growing up.

• 19:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And then something happened and called and we never spoke again. So I actually like admire that about their friendships. Okay. Yeah. They don't talk to each other. They don't know anything about each other.

• 19:59Hannah Berner?

  It's like those marriages where it's like, well, they don't sleep in the same bed. So obviously they can stay together, like they haven't seen each other. Valid. Yeah. Like I'm not judging, but it's like when, but men do like, even if you look at like tennis matches, like the women are not friends on tour. Like after a match where something goes wrong, I'm like, well, I'll never speak to her again. Where men will literally like sleep with each other's girlfriends, get in a physical altercation and then be like, it's okay, bro. I'll see you tomorrow.

• 20:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I'll literally, I'll see you tomorrow. I don't know how they do that. But also I feel like there is, like every girl has had one friendship breakup where you're like, that was my canon event.

• 20:38Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Because she, when a girl doesn't want to be friends with you, it hurts more because she, she really loved you for you. Like she wasn't having sex with you.

• 20:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Exactly.

• 20:48Hannah Berner?

  Like you weren't like tricking her with your pussy.

• 20:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't like my personality.

• 20:52Hannah Berner?

  You genuinely know my heart and my soul and you know me more than my boyfriend.

• 20:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And you're like, it's actually a no for me.

• 20:57Hannah Berner?

  See my vagina as much like.

• 21:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Since you went to like non-traditional, like you didn't have a traditional high school experience. Did you, have you ever had like a big friendship breakup where like you were friends with that person for a really long time? And then one day it was just like.

• 21:15Hannah Berner?

  The only friendship breakups I ever had was reality TV, which honestly.

• 21:19Paige DeSorbo?

  That's like not real.

• 21:20Hannah Berner?

  It's not real, but it also was kind of harsh because it was like your entire friend group. One day they're like, and you're out. Like I've never lost like a. Seven people like that before.

• 21:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 21:30Hannah Berner?

  Um, I have, I have.

• 21:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I'm actually more depressed than that. I thought you were gonna be like, no, not really.

• 21:36Hannah Berner?

  But like, since then, I've never had, I've, I've definitely had like, growing apart because like, someone starts having a family or like, someone leaves jobs.

• 21:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 21:46Hannah Berner?

  Um, I have a question for you that I think people might connect to.

• 21:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 21:52Hannah Berner?

  Everyone has that like friend who might have like, partied a little too hard in their twenties.

• 21:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:56Hannah Berner?

  And may have like, pissed off a lot of people and like, was a lot of drama. But then, we're at the point now in our thirties where a lot of these people have done work on themselves. They're sobering up.

• 22:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:08Hannah Berner?

  And they're, they're kind of like, reemerging into people's lives like, hey, sorry when I was 24 and was in a K-hole. Now I'm, now I'm 33 and I did ayahuasca and I, I reflected. Um, do you let these people back into your lives?

• 22:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 22:25Hannah Berner?

  And this is a very, you know, general question, because I have friends who have like, used to party really hard and like, didn't do a lot of healthy things and may have hurt people.

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a very polarizing statement, I'm going to say, but my mom has like, said it since I was little, so I don't really care. And it actually isn't, whatever. But she's always said that like, people don't change, like, ever. Like, I don't, she was like, I don't care if they went to therapy, I don't care if they did this, I don't care if they did that. They don't change, which I believe, but I also think people can grow. People can change. No, like, I don't wholeheartedly believe that, but, in her defense, 99% of the time, whatever you didn't like about them is probably still a little bit there.

• 23:19Hannah Berner?

  I did have one friendship breakup.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah. How old were you?

• 23:22Hannah Berner?

  College.

• 23:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 23:23Hannah Berner?

  So it was really intense. She was like my best friend and we were on the tennis team together. And then she was having her own kind of issues with the team and ended up leaving the team. And we had kind of like this falling out that was, it was sad, but I also was like, this isn't a healthy relationship anyway anymore. And then fast forward years later, she reached out to me. And had done like a lot of work on herself and was so self-aware of like what happened.

• 23:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:53Hannah Berner?

  Things that she could have done differently. Immediately I was like, and I could have done this differently.

• 23:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:57Hannah Berner?

  And we'll never be as close as we were.

• 23:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 23:59Hannah Berner?

  But I've a hundred percent forgiven her.

• 24:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. I think that's where you have to go.

• 24:03Hannah Berner?

  Because it's like, oh, we both know, we both were so apologetic.

• 24:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:08Hannah Berner?

  And both were clearly like, loved each other and expressed like, I missed you and I'm so sorry.

• 24:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's very stressful for your own self to dislike someone.

• 24:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 24:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you can't, like you really can't hate people. I mean, obviously I have a list of people I fucking hate.

• 24:24Hannah Berner?

  Well, active hate is bad for you.

• 24:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, active hate, like where you're actively like, I don't know, texting them and fighting is so different than people that you're just like, they scare me. I don't want to be associated.

• 24:34Hannah Berner?

  But love and hate are close. We're like, me and this girl were like so close. And then it was like, for us not to be speaking, it was literally a breakup. So it's kind of like a guy who like you had a great thing with, but then there was miscommunication and got fucked up. And one day later in life, you're just like, by the way, like I respect you and I love you. And like, it wasn't meant for us.

• 24:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but.

• 24:53Hannah Berner?

  But no hard feelings.

• 24:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. If a girl came back to me, like as a friend, I would be more into like, possibly.

• 25:03Hannah Berner?

  But it's like, you're not bad.

• 25:04Paige DeSorbo?

  If a guy did, I would be, I would never even respond.

• 25:07Hannah Berner?

  But even with girls, I would argue, you'd never be my best friend again.

• 25:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I had a friendship breakup when I was in college and I'm not kidding. It took me like four years to get over it. And the final straw was, I remember, not even the final straw. It was like when I realized she didn't want to be my friend anymore.

• 25:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 25:26Paige DeSorbo?

  It was her 21st birthday and I was like, what are we doing? Like, oh my God, 21. And she was like, oh, I don't know yet. And then I saw she was in Atlantic City. She's like, cool. She was in Atlantic City with her family. And I think that's why when we did a show in Atlantic City, I was so triggered.

• 25:45Hannah Berner?

  We got in like, we were in like a car and you randomly go, I'm not gonna die in Atlantic City. And I was like, okay.

• 25:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And I couldn't understand why I was having such an aversion to Atlantic City. And then I remembered that story and I was like, oh yeah. Because I've never been to Atlantic City or even thought about going because of that moment in my early twenties.

• 26:06Hannah Berner?

  Not getting invited to a party.

• 26:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:09Hannah Berner?

  Where like everyone else is invited is like, but that's what I guess Ashley Tisdale was talking about.

• 26:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Basically.

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  Like that's what's happening.

• 26:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Felt like she, she would see them at like brunch and stuff. But that now in my 30s, yeah, go to brunch. Get out there, girl. Like have the best time.

• 26:27Hannah Berner?

  What's hard with the friend group though is sometimes it's one person being like, we're not inviting this person.

• 26:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:32Hannah Berner?

  And then other people are just kind of like going with it. But they're not necessarily like on a team of something. It's like there's those followers like in the middle. Wait, can I say something about?

• 26:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I like having one friend and one friend only.

• 26:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's, well, that's why when there's three friends, there's always like gang ups and stuff.

• 26:47Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:29Hannah Berner?

  Can I say something about the workplace too?

• 31:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:31Hannah Berner?

  The workforce, yeah. The workforce.

• 31:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:34Hannah Berner?

  It was very interesting and it was just Instagram, but I read it.

• 31:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, good.

• 31:40Hannah Berner?

  It basically said how being the smartest or best worker in your office does not really mean that you're gonna get a promotion. That promotions more so go to like the safer person who's really like in with the social of it all. Because I've been at companies where like I was the one who was like in meetings, like trying to come up with new ideas or like disagreeing with something or being like, what if we did this and like outside the box? And I wasn't like going out afterwards with the company. And then I remember someone else got a promotion who like smokes weed with the boss every weekend. And they basically were like, the person who like doesn't speak up. Maybe you should have done drugs, Hannah.

• 32:23Hannah Berner?

  And again, drugs would have made me more successful. But if they're like, if you're just like not a risk. And like safer and just like a yes man, you're more likely to get um a promotion. Interesting. I don't want to tell people. Wait, have you ever been promoted?

• 32:45Hannah Berner?

  I've definitely asked for a promotion but told no. I've never, never even brought it up.

• 32:53Hannah Berner?

  I've multiple jobs, but the thing is I'm so entrepreneurial that every job I just learned so much. I was like, I'm not gonna be here like much longer. Yeah. No, I remember like I, I went into my old notes and saw a thing from a review meeting and I wrote all the things that I did. And I was like listing it out and I remember them being like. You're fired.

• 33:15Hannah Berner?

  This is so cute, but you actually got fired last week. Why do you keep coming here? I didn't know. Are you still getting checks in the mail? Cause that's an accounting issue. Like George Costanza in Seinfeld. It actually low key is so funny to get fired. Oh, it's literally like

• 33:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause you're just like, fuck you, I didn't want to work here anyway, like.

• 33:37Hannah Berner?

  You're like, so I'm on vacation. No, getting, getting fired as a people pleaser has been like the biggest

• 33:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Life changing.

• 33:44Hannah Berner?

  Growth for me.

• 33:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:45Hannah Berner?

  As a human in my heart and my soul.

• 33:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:48Hannah Berner?

  Also, we all have those jobs in your twenties where you're like, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. And then you get fired and you're like, so what?

• 33:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:57Hannah Berner?

  Um, also one shout out, I've been getting some DMs about, now let me just say, Paige's number one job, and she's incredible at it, is doing the ads.

• 34:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:11Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then I get a message being like, I can tell that Paige rerecorded this ad.

• 34:17Hannah Berner?

  500 to the go, I can tell that she fought for her life to pronounce one of these words. And I just want to let you guys know, you need to support her and you need to support us. And she's trying her fucking very best. This is her one job.

• 34:30Paige DeSorbo?

  You know how hard it is to read 20 ads?

• 34:34Hannah Berner?

  She has the reading level of a second grader and she's

• 34:37Paige DeSorbo?

  What people aren't understanding is that I'm not just reading the ads, I'm writing, I'm making them up as I go.

• 34:44Hannah Berner?

  Like it's not like She's a wordsmith, okay?

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not like the brand sends you exactly what to read.

• 34:50Hannah Berner?

  She's a novelist.

• 34:51Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like, and make it your own. And I'm like, okay, well, in my life, I would cough here.

• 34:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I would mispronounce this word. There's so many times where I've had to rerecord ads and Hannah has been like, babe, you're dyslexic. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And it's like, okay, you had to say LMNOP and you said it backwards. And do you remember that one time I fought with you? I was like, I know for a fact I didn't say it wrong. And then I re-listened and I was like, maybe I am dyslexic. No, I'm definitely something, but it's like, we're out of school now, so it doesn't really matter and I'll live with it. Um.

• 35:30Hannah Berner?

  Can I come from?

• 35:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Was that the only thing you wanted to say? Just like for people to like, stop judging how I read? Thank you for bringing awareness. I haven't started my book.

• 35:39Hannah Berner?

  But it also was funny because obviously like I'm not listening to, to all the ads you do.

• 35:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, here's the reason why I do the ads. Because when Giggly Squad first started, Hannah edited the podcast, I did the ads. Now that we have Grace, like I send the ads to Grace, she'll edit them, she'll edit the podcast. I just never stopped doing the ads because like, it's part of my routine. It's part of my thing.

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and I wrote the book.

• 36:03Paige DeSorbo?

  But with.

• 36:06Hannah Berner?

  And Hannah and her mom wrote the book.

• 36:09Paige DeSorbo?

  But it's, I, but you talk to Grace so much more than I do. So I feel like it's our thing. It's what like keeps us.

• 36:17Hannah Berner?

  By the way, I would love to help with the ads. We just like, we have a lot going on and it could change tomorrow.

• 36:24Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not sustainable though, for the ads to like split them up because it's, they're all in. It's just easier to go and do it all.

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  You can flow. And also you're really good at recommending things like you know it's good.

• 36:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's the other thing with the ads. I've personally like been like, yeah, I use that hair product. Yeah. So like, it makes more sense for me to do it.

• 36:44Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent and, but it is interesting because we've gotten some questions during live shows. Like, how do you, like?

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Divvy things up?

• 36:51Hannah Berner?

  We both just do the things that we're good at. And that's it.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Which we haven't figured out what things are. Well, we'll get back to you.

• 37:01Hannah Berner?

  Also, I was with a man, not Dez.

• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:05Hannah Berner?

  Not an affair. And I just have, oh my God, men are so fascinating where like, he was trying to find somewhere with directions. And it's the classic like how men don't ask for directions. And I'm like, can we just check the phone? Because if we're walking the wrong direction for like 10 minutes, I'm going to be pissed. And he's like, don't give up. Don't give up. And I'm like, give up.

• 37:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You're just trying to do better.

• 37:27Hannah Berner?

  And we get to this, we were shopping someplace and he was like, I'm like, let's ask the person where we were looking for like slides.

• 37:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:35Hannah Berner?

  And he was.

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Flip flops?

• 37:35Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, flip flops. And I was like, let's ask where they are. It's a huge store. And he's like, whoa, whoa, I'm not giving up. And I'm like, we're not, you're not a hunter. You're not impressing me right now.

• 37:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Filmed for television.

• 37:48Hannah Berner?

  You're wasting my damn time. This isn't Survivor. No one's judging you. Ask for help.

• 37:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think they like to, especially to another guy. I think that's why they don't like to ask directions, because it's always to like, when you stop to ask directions, it's usually like a gas station. It's like a guy or whatever. But in like a store or just general help.

• 38:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. One thing about me, the second I walk in a store, if I know what I need, I am going straight to a person. I said, I'm helpless. I'm scared.

• 38:19Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm the person on customer service, zero, zero, zero. Give me a real fricking person.

• 38:25Hannah Berner?

  I SOS on my forehead, except when I don't have anything to shop for and I'm just like perusing.

• 38:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:33Hannah Berner?

  I'm so scared of conversation because as a people pleaser, they're probably doing fine, but all I hear is, do you want to buy that? Are you sure? You don't want to buy it now? Do you want to buy it now? And I'm like, I would love to support, but I'm so scared.

• 38:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, that actually brings up a good point because I feel like I keep seeing that like, for whatever reason, it's very trendy to have a sister.

• 39:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like all my TikToks are like, and here's my sister. And we're like, you had a sister this whole time? Or it's like, and this is my twin. And it's like, and it's all these TikToks of like, girls and their sister relationships, which I so like envied my whole life. Then I saw this girl make a TikTok and she was like, wow, I don't have a sister. And so I feel like no one's ever actually told me the truth in my whole entire life. Because sisters are so like, no, you look disgusting. Why would you do that? Or like, you're acting like a weirdo. Like, they're very.

• 39:33Hannah Berner?

  I feel like our moms do though.

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So I like was sitting there and I was like, oh my God, has anyone ever told me the truth? And then I go, wait a minute.

• 39:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim, I have text messages and texts and emails about how I can improve and things that I can change. I was like, wait, I've been told the truth 10 times more than any fucking sister out there.

• 40:00Hannah Berner?

  Wait, isn't it cute that like our moms become our sisters now?

• 40:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, now that like, yeah, now that I'm in my 30s. I like if something will happen and it's not like, oh my God, I have to tell my mom because she has to fix it. It's like, I have to tell my mom because I want to like, she's gonna have a great comeback to it.

• 40:18Hannah Berner?

  Also, I saw this hilarious stand up by, I'm gonna insert the name. Casey Shornema. She was saying how, isn't it funny how your dad is just kind of like your mom's boyfriend? And how like, if we go out to dinner, it's like, do you want to, are you bringing him? What am I supposed to talk to him about? Like when you go to the bathroom, you're just like hanging out with your boyfriend?

• 40:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I love the TikToks where it's like, why would I talk to my best friend's ex? And it's like, it's their dad.

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  He's literally just like the guy that she got sperm from.

• 40:55Hannah Berner?

  When your mom like first complains to you about your dad for the first time, it's so funny.

• 41:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I said something the other day, like I was on the phone with my mom, but usually she has me on speaker. So like.

• 41:05Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, should we break up with her?

• 41:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyone in the kitchen could be listening. And I said to her like, and I just don't relate because like I come from a household where like the woman is in charge and like she's the smartest. And my dad goes, okay.

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, so I don't identify that your dad is in charge because at my house, we don't care where he is.

• 41:28Hannah Berner?

  But she's made him think that he has some power and he's, he's listening. He goes, what is, what the hell? I think he's firing against me. But your dad is literally your mom's boyfriend that like

• 41:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:38Hannah Berner?

  hangs around and it's like

• 41:39Paige DeSorbo?

  He's always hanging around her. She was like picking her up from places.

• 41:43Hannah Berner?

  Also, cause I'm getting older, I am that family member. I did, oh my God. I did that thing, which you know how your family member will like call you someone else in the family's name? And you're like, how could you do that? I called Lois Andrea, who's my other little cousin.

• 42:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:01Hannah Berner?

  And I'm like becoming everything that I was annoyed at like my older aunts for doing to me. Like I'm the person that walks up to her and goes, you're getting so big.

• 42:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:09Hannah Berner?

  And you know, when you're little and someone says that you're like, I'll blow my brains out, please. Like you're the eighth person that told me that today, but you like, it's like human nature. You just become your aunt.

• 42:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You just like become your mom.

• 42:20Hannah Berner?

  I'm just becoming every, I'm like, you used to be so little. I used to tell her a whole story that she doesn't care about. I'm like, you used to run up and down the stairs with those cheeks. And now you're like, you're like, look at you, full senses.

• 42:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm 16, shut up.

• 42:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, also I wanted to formally apologize.

• 42:39Hannah Berner?

  Last episode we recorded, it was really nice out and I was like, shall we walk back to your place?

• 42:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:48Hannah Berner?

  And you stupidly, you, you get tricked every damn time.

• 42:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Damn time I'm with you.

• 42:56Hannah Berner?

  Cause I distract you with some good gossip. I'll be like, let's talk about this and we're walking. And look, it's a flow state, walking, gossiping. And then you were wearing your

• 43:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I was wearing ballet flats that, and it was the first time I was wearing them. Like I had gotten them at the Woodbury Common Outlet, which is just like, there's nothing better than getting something at an outlet store.

• 43:17Hannah Berner?

  Yes. That's real shopping.

• 43:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's real shopping.

• 43:21Hannah Berner?

  Like I respect that.

• 43:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Cause you have to like go in and like look around.

• 43:24Hannah Berner?

  You have to park.

• 43:26Paige DeSorbo?

  One time I was at Woodbury Common Outlet and I was, I'm not kidding. I was eight years old and sometimes they would do. Peak at my goal weight. Okay, I was, I've never been skinnier. And they used to do, um, sometimes they would do like sam- not, it was like sample sale pop ups, but it was just like-

• 43:46Hannah Berner?

  Food sampling, I got excited.

• 43:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was just like extra stuff that either like they couldn't sell or whatever, but it wasn't the store name, like it was an empty store name. So any brand could be in there. And I remember one time Burberry was in there and they had these Burberry pink and brown, like rain boots. And I could, and I found one of them. Okay. And I was like, oh, the other one is obviously like they have it in the back. They're not putting two because they want people to steal it or whatever. I had one in my hand and I'm little, like I'm a child and I'm like shopping with my mom. So I go up to her and I'm like, I have this boot and this is the boot I want to buy. So she goes up to the counter and she's like, we need the other boot. And she was like, oh, the other boots out on the floor. Like it must just like be somewhere.

• 44:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And my mom's like, okay, well, we'll look for it.

• 44:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, she made you scavenger hunt?

• 44:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it looked like a sample sale route. So it was like shit was all over.

• 44:40Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 44:41Paige DeSorbo?

  This woman was holding the other boot. And now we're up at the counter. And so I'm a child. So I'm like, hey, that's my boot. Hey, like I have the other boot and like I'm about to pay. Like that's my boot. And my mom gets into a fight with this woman. And the woman was like, no, I'm not giving you the other boot. Like I had it first. And my mom was like, well, how do you know that you had it first when my daughter, who's a child, is holding the boot? Anyway, long story short, I actually don't remember what happened, but I do, I do know that I don't have those boots. So I must've not, I don't know what happened, what my mom ended up doing.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  And that's what like built character back in the day.

• 45:24Paige DeSorbo?

  And that-

• 45:25Hannah Berner?

  Being at a mall, seeing everyone-

• 45:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I know that I was revved up. Okay. I was devastated and I couldn't believe I didn't leave with the boots. So now every time I go to Woodbury Common Outlets, I'm a savage. Like you want to cut me in line? I don't think so. I think about those boots from 1998 and I'll never let that happen again.

• 45:44Hannah Berner?

  And like clicking something to buy on Amazon will never give you that thrill of like, that was war. Like you were hunting.

• 45:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And also I hate that sample sales are such a New York City thing because we could have competition. Like if they did sample sales all over the country.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  Do they not?

• 46:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because all like the place, like the design district.

• 46:07Hannah Berner?

  Always in, because look, I love a sample sale. I'm at the point now, if I go a whole day without spending money, I feel like I made money.

• 46:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be dead. If I go a whole day without spending money, someone check on me because I'm dead.

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, you texted me the next day and said, I'm bleeding out from your ankles. Because some of these designer shoes.

• 46:29Paige DeSorbo?

  From my ankles. Hannah, I had 12 blisters in total.

• 46:34Hannah Berner?

  Guys, we walked for 10 minutes. Walked for 10 minutes and I actually that night was going to apologize to you because I felt in my heart of hearts that you were in pain. Because we have that connection.

• 46:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Pissed me off about it the most. I had planned to get a pedicure later that day. I can't go to a pedicure chair, bleeding out with open sores. I literally, I'd be like, just chop my feet off now of staph infection.

• 46:57Hannah Berner?

  I was literally going to apologize to you and then I turned on great British Bake Off.

• 47:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Pedicure list.

• 47:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And I haven't gotten over it.

• 47:05Hannah Berner?

  So I'm really.

• 47:06Paige DeSorbo?

  The moral of the story, don't listen to your friends when they want to walk or exercise because they're tricking you.

• 47:12Hannah Berner?

  I also wrote down, I have a social media strategy.

• 47:17Hannah Berner?

  I realized like this is literally my social media strategy. It's two things. Whenever I post, like you have to have a purpose. Like what's your motive? What's your niche?

• 47:25Hannah Berner?

  I have two posts. One.

• 47:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have something funny. Okay.

• 47:30Hannah Berner?

  What is going to make the gigglers laugh? What is going to make them laugh? What is going to make them be like, hee hee hee, kick their legs? And then what is going to rage bait?

• 47:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Rage bait page.

• 47:40Hannah Berner?

  What is going to rage bait page? So those are the two things I post. And if you look, there's nothing else that I post. It's laughter. And when I post a rage bait to Paige, you don't respond or if you're like.

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, give me an example of a rage bait to me that you posted recently that I was like, hello. Oh, yeah. Well.

• 47:58Hannah Berner?

  Like, that's to you. Like, that's not to anyone else. That's just to you. And for all the gigglers being like waiting on Paige.

• 48:04Paige DeSorbo?

  You put it on close friends. You're like, wait till I see it.

• 48:08Hannah Berner?

  So those are the only two posts and some of them are the same. Some of them rage bait and make the gingers laugh, but that's all I post.

• 48:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:46Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:27Paige DeSorbo?

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• 52:01Hannah Berner?

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• 52:46Hannah Berner?

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• 52:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I was gonna say, did you see the very controversial take that Jennifer Lawrence had?

• 53:02Hannah Berner?

  Oh, that a dog bit her kid? So she was like, fuck that dog.

• 53:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she was like, got rid of the dog.

• 53:10Paige DeSorbo?

  The comment, oh, the com- well, she did say after that, it's not funny. She did say after that, like, I will obliterate any dog I see, which I don't think she was being serious. It's Jennifer Lawrence. Obviously, she's not gonna kill a dog.

• 53:27Hannah Berner?

  But what a headline to give people.

• 53:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was like, oh my god. When I saw it, I literally was scared to go in the comments because I was like, I've just said, hey, cats over dogs.

• 53:40Hannah Berner?

  There's something about dogs that represent like, America. Where like, if you talk too bad about dogs, like, you're not patriotic.

• 53:49Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so true.

• 53:51Hannah Berner?

  Cause dogs are men.

• 53:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Not appropriate.

• 53:56Hannah Berner?

  She's a lesbian. She's weird. She likes poetry.

• 54:00Paige DeSorbo?

  She drinks kombucha. Yeah.

• 54:04Hannah Berner?

  She is piercing.

• 54:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No cat has ever bit a baby's face.

• 54:06Hannah Berner?

  She believes in witches.

• 54:09Paige DeSorbo?

  But anyway, it was one of those moments where I like, watched the clip and I was like, could have reasoning because I'm a human, where I was like, I totally get, like, if a dog bites your newborn baby's face, you're gonna obviously be like, oh my god, I'm scared of this dog now.

• 54:26Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no, you don't mess with dogs and babies if a dog has ever showed aggression.

• 54:30Paige DeSorbo?

  But I was so scared to click the comments and then I clicked it and it was just like, I was like, oh my, I'm never saying.

• 54:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Everything about a dog ever.

• 54:39Hannah Berner?

  We were joking last night about this because we were talking about you ever watch a video? And you think the comments are gonna have a certain vibe? And you wanna add to it and then you click on it and you're like, oh no, we are going in a complete different direction.

• 54:54Paige DeSorbo?

  There are some times where I'm like, wait.

• 54:56Hannah Berner?

  The comments are a group mentality and sometimes you were off. Like you think you're gonna go down to be like silly goosey and it's like hate comments. Or sometimes you think it's gonna be hate comments and everyone's like slay and you're like, okay.

• 55:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's usually like public. Like I'm trying to think of an example because I feel like that just happened and I was like, wait, he's right. And the comments were like, how dare you?

• 55:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but there's like an.

• 55:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, you wanna know what it was? There was a guy who was at a Broadway play.

• 55:24Paige DeSorbo?

  And he was with his nieces.

• 55:26Hannah Berner?

  You love a public meltdown. Well, that's very New York to be like, shut the fuck up.

• 55:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I agreed with him because I'm sorry. When you go to the movie, this is why like I will never go see like a, well, because I have a brain. I would never go see like a wicked type movie in the movie theaters. Because if someone started singing, I would be so annoyed.

• 55:50Hannah Berner?

  This is my problem. I'm not gonna say something publicly against like a row of people. Like that scares me. I feel like if it's one person, you could give a little look or you wait for a more angry New Yorker to say something.

• 56:04Paige DeSorbo?

  If you didn't see the clip, the clip is of a like guy, probably like in his 40s. He's at a theater, he stands up, he's yelling like, I need security over here. Security comes over and he's like, this whole row is obnoxious. They're singing the whole time. They're now like using profanities. He's there with like his two like little nieces. I don't know what play they're at, obviously one for.

• 56:27Hannah Berner?

  My nieces won't stop singing. They're so fucking annoying.

• 56:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And I think Broadway is so different from the movie theater. Okay, the movie theater, fine. Broadway, the humans are up on stage. They're singing. You paid to hear them sing.

• 56:40Hannah Berner?

  Let them cook.

• 56:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Why would you make a word, make a sound at a play?

• 56:45Hannah Berner?

  I also have PTSD from like when you're on the bus and like a bunch of girls start singing a song and like you don't know the words.

• 56:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I never joined in on that. That was so not me.

• 56:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like anytime there was like a dance circle, I couldn't do that.

• 57:01Hannah Berner?

  I actually.

• 57:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And you like performing like that? I was like, no.

• 57:04Hannah Berner?

  I saw a crazy altercation at an air on a plane recently, and I hate talking too much about flights, but like it is prime time for drama. Tell me who's in the wrong.

• 57:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:16Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so this lady is going to her seat.

• 57:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You're witnessing this firsthand.

• 57:21Hannah Berner?

  First hand. This lady is getting to her seat and above her is someone's jacket.

• 57:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:29Hannah Berner?

  She takes the jacket.

• 57:30Paige DeSorbo?

  In the overhead bin.

• 57:31Hannah Berner?

  In the overhead bin.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:32Hannah Berner?

  She takes out the jacket and says, whose jacket is this? Looks at me because I'm next to her. Wasn't mine.

• 57:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:38Hannah Berner?

  First time, I'm innocent. And the guy behind me was.

• 57:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Already? Don't touch my shit.

• 57:43Hannah Berner?

  The guy behind me was like, that's mine. And she goes, you can't put your jacket here and tosses it to him.

• 57:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 57:50Hannah Berner?

  Okay, and I don't want to say this.

• 57:51Paige DeSorbo?

  She's so wrong.

• 57:52Hannah Berner?

  It was Dez.

• 57:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It was Dez's jacket.

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  It was Dez's jacket.

• 57:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god.

• 57:57Hannah Berner?

  Now, mind you, across from her.

• 57:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 57:59Hannah Berner?

  Was an open, like there was room.

• 58:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 58:02Hannah Berner?

  Now, there's.

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  The bin is not assigned to that seat.

• 58:05Hannah Berner?

  That's the thing. Your bin is not assigned.

• 58:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Or they'd have numbers on the bins.

• 58:10Hannah Berner?

  And it's first come, first served.

• 58:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Correct.

• 58:13Hannah Berner?

  What she could have done, what I've done in situations where like I'm going to sit and someone's jacket or things they could put underneath is there, you turn to the person who works there.

• 58:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 58:23Hannah Berner?

  And you say, hey, how would you think you can fit this up there? And then she.

• 58:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:29Hannah Berner?

  Can handle that in a professional manner.

• 58:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't touch my stuff.

• 58:32Hannah Berner?

  Pulls out his coat and throws it at him.

• 58:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I would have thrown it right back at her.

• 58:36Hannah Berner?

  Throws it at him and Dez flies all the time, so he knows his rules. He was calm as a gentleman as he could be. There was people walking through and over her and it said Merry Christmas to her because it was like dirt and they were like, she's in a bad mood. And this lady just like sat back down.

• 58:53Paige DeSorbo?

  How old was the lady?

• 58:55Hannah Berner?

  She was like sixty-five. She was prime.

• 58:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Where were you flying to, may I ask? Or where were you coming from?

• 59:02Hannah Berner?

  I don't remember, but she, then she was sitting in front of me the whole time. I was like, this woman disrespected my husband. Even someone hurts someone you love.

• 59:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:11Hannah Berner?

  It's a different anger.

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:13Hannah Berner?

  But then I was more, I was texting Dez and I said, first of all, I'm so proud of you for being so calm. Cause in that moment, I was like, you could say something kind of snippy, like.

• 59:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I would have freaked out.

• 59:21Hannah Berner?

  He was so calm, but I, I told him, I said, whatever's happening, don't take it personally. She's going, she has this kind of interaction with people all day.

• 59:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:31Hannah Berner?

  Like she's full of anger, has nothing to do with you. She's projecting on you. She's probably having a rough time. And that's how I think.

• 59:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Was she traveling alone?

• 59:39Hannah Berner?

  No, she had her husband with her.

• 59:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And he didn't say anything?

• 59:42Hannah Berner?

  He was, he was scared.

• 59:44Paige DeSorbo?

  What a beta.

• 59:49Paige DeSorbo?

  What were we talking about before this? Cause I feel like I was gonna say something.

• 59:53Hannah Berner?

  I have another hot take.

• 59:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 59:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Hot take Sunday.

• 59:57Hannah Berner?

  The best compliment

• 1:00:01Hannah Berner?

  comes from

• 1:00:04Hannah Berner?

  a child under five.

• 1:00:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. Yes.

• 1:00:07Hannah Berner?

  But also the most painful remarks can come from.

• 1:00:12Paige DeSorbo?

  A child under five.

• 1:00:13Hannah Berner?

  They can make or break you.

• 1:00:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:15Hannah Berner?

  They're not holding back. They'll see you do something and be like, why are your arms so sweaty?

• 1:00:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. It's like in the morning, Lois will like jump into my bed.

• 1:00:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:30Hannah Berner?

  Throw a book at me and make her read to me and then go, ew, your breath smells bad. I'm like, okay, you first of all, Ford, put a gun to my head, force me to read, don't let me brush my teeth and then bully me for having bad breath. What kind of abuse is this?

• 1:00:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I love like a child's, like I wonder at what age your brain is like, oh, I can't say, like you just don't say, cause you're not consciously like, oh, I don't, I can't say that anymore.

• 1:00:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:57Paige DeSorbo?

  But it's like, you just don't say certain things.

• 1:01:00Hannah Berner?

  If a kid says you're funny or pretty, like.

• 1:01:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Retire. Like honestly, Christmas Eve mass. This, I was next to like three little boys.

• 1:01:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Under eight years old. They were obsessed with me. And I was like, it's like, wait a second.

• 1:01:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's why it's like, yeah, I'd rather the little kid like me than these adults that are projecting their own shit that they've experienced on their life towards me. I want the pure form of honesty.

• 1:01:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Hannah Berner?

  I'd corner a girl. I'm like, do you think I'm a good person?

• 1:01:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. That's why, like, when Lois said I was a princess, I was like,

• 1:01:36Paige DeSorbo?

  she looks at me and she's like, she's magical.

• 1:01:38Hannah Berner?

  When Lois looked at you, she literally was like, I'm watching a Disney movie. And she looked at your tights.

• 1:01:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. It was, when she slowly touched my tights, I was like, if I don't have a daughter, I'll kill myself.

• 1:01:51Hannah Berner?

  We know you're gonna have like the most, the most dirty, annoying son.

• 1:01:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Hannah Berner?

  Um, I'm looking at my notes. I'm like farted at the coffee shop.

• 1:02:01Hannah Berner?

  Talked about that.

• 1:02:04Hannah Berner?

  I need, I need some advice from you about organizing my clothes.

• 1:02:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Hannah Berner?

  I'm in a minimalist mode.

• 1:02:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I went through all my clothes yesterday and not yesterday, I meant like over the past couple of weeks. I wanna throw everything over, out and start over. I actually hate everything I've ever worn before.

• 1:02:27Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if it's like where we are in our life. There's something where I'm like, I want everything gone. And so I was like going through my stuff, but it's this, people don't talk about, there's this kind of piece of clothing that you own, that you've worn before, you like it. But you normally would like probably pick other stuff over it, but you can't get yourself to throw it away. Cause like it's been worn and you don't not like it.

• 1:02:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:02:52Hannah Berner?

  And I think that is what my closet is full of.

• 1:02:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 1:02:55Hannah Berner?

  Of stuff that like I've, I've looked good in it before. If you said, would you wanna wear it tonight? I'd say no, but I can't get myself to throw it away.

• 1:03:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:03Hannah Berner?

  And like, I don't know what to do.

• 1:03:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like my thing is. It's like such specific pieces that I'm like, I can't wear that.

• 1:03:16Hannah Berner?

  But then you're like, I'd be so mad if something comes up and that was perfect.

• 1:03:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, that's what it is. Or I also, I used to have like this thing where if I wore something like outrageous, I would be too nervous to wear it. I'd be like, no, like people aren't gonna get it. They're gonna think it's ugly or like whatever.

• 1:03:33Hannah Berner?

  See, I love you in those.

• 1:03:34Paige DeSorbo?

  And my mom like tricked me when at a very young age where like I snapped out of that.

• 1:03:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:40Paige DeSorbo?

  She would always say, like whenever I'd have that feeling, she would always say, if another girl walked in wearing it, how would you feel? And if the answer was, oh, I'd feel so jealous, she'd be like, then wear it.

• 1:03:51Hannah Berner?

  Wait, that's such a good shopping thing to think. If you saw someone else with it. But my problem is, I have a lot of clothes that I like that like if another person wore, I'd be like, that's sick. But then on me, it looks fucking bad.

• 1:04:04Paige DeSorbo?

  That's not true. It's just all about like how they style it.

• 1:04:07Hannah Berner?

  You're right. Styling, I should.

• 1:04:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I think your new style is going to be, I think you need more flowy like pants that aren't jeans.

• 1:04:19Hannah Berner?

  You're gonna say you hate my outfit today?

• 1:04:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no, I don't hate your outfit. I mean,

• 1:04:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what it is.

• 1:04:25Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna wear white capris today with a white, with a little white t-shirt. I was so page coded, but then you could see my white sports bra through the white t-shirt and I panicked.

• 1:04:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you um have such like a long, beautiful torso. Like I think you should be more like tighter tops and then flowy pants.

• 1:04:46Hannah Berner?

  Like flowy, wide legged.

• 1:04:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Not like super wide leg though.

• 1:04:52Hannah Berner?

  Like, what kind of material are we talking?

• 1:04:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. Like, honestly, you know what? I'll have my mom make a duck.

• 1:04:58Hannah Berner?

  I'm lost. I need Kim to do a full PowerPoint. But no, you're right.

• 1:05:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I, your silhouette, you have such a good, you really do have such a good like shape where like I'm like a board. And so like, it's like, I have to wear certain things that makes it look like I have a good like butt, but it's like, it's not there. Where you have such a good shape, but you never accentuate it. And it actually really annoys me that you never. Show your boobs.

• 1:05:25Hannah Berner?

  You sound just like my mom. Also, I was gonna wear capris and show off my boobs today and this is what I ended up in.

• 1:05:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Great.

• 1:05:31Hannah Berner?

  I was so fucking close. Have you seen the US ice skating championships around?

• 1:05:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I only saw one clip about how like everyone's family died in like a plane crash prior to.

• 1:05:43Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 1:05:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember that plane crash, like what was that, last year? But it was like a bunch of figure skater families.

• 1:05:48Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 1:05:49Paige DeSorbo?

  So now it's what? It's all of them are competing, like people that.

• 1:05:53Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know that.

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, cuz the one guy that's like about to go to the Olympics, he was holding up a picture of his parents and they had died in that flight. I think that was like exactly a year ago.

• 1:06:04Hannah Berner?

  Jesus Christ. Um, so anyway, that's intense.

• 1:06:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry. That's to kill the mood.

• 1:06:10Hannah Berner?

  But um, good context for sure. No, it's, it's, you watch these people's like dreams come true as they're like making the Olympics or not. But I can't stop thinking about heated rivalry and how like in another world, these gay hockey players were just ice skaters.

• 1:06:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:25Hannah Berner?

  Gay hockey players are just men who like couldn't get themselves to ice skate. Meanwhile, if you're an ice skater and you're with the woman, all you're doing is like holding her crotch and spinning her. It's like male cheerleaders.

• 1:06:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 1:06:37Hannah Berner?

  Like they're actually the ones who get the most.

• 1:06:39Paige DeSorbo?

  They're actually fingering them.

• 1:06:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Just watch Bring It On. That's why the male cheerleaders join. Culture yourself.

• 1:06:49Hannah Berner?

  Final culture moment that we talked about yesterday that I have to bring up is the rewriting of history of Jersey Shore. We have to apologize.

• 1:06:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's totally. I love Jersey Shore. There's nothing that shaped who I am as a person more than Jersey Shore.

• 1:07:05Hannah Berner?

  And you recently met Jay Wow.

• 1:07:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And I've like hung out with Jay Wow. I've met like family adjacent to her. I actually have like a weird connection with Jay Wow because she's from my hometown and my brother knows like.

• 1:07:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Her boyfriend's mom, it's like a whole, we're sisters. We're sisters. She brought her daughter the day we filmed our Amazon show.

• 1:07:28Hannah Berner?

  Which is crazy because we remember before she even met that guy.

• 1:07:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So being able to talk to her about reality TV is so interesting because we did it in completely different eras of reality TV.

• 1:07:41Hannah Berner?

  Yes, so different.

• 1:07:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And so they always talk about how like producers were not that involved, which because they were so good at the casting, I would assume. But for whatever reason, where reality TV now, it's like producers can, well, they can ruin your life.

• 1:07:57Hannah Berner?

  And they know like what they need in an episode, so they just get it. Where back then, they were like, what could happen?

• 1:08:03Paige DeSorbo?

  But when I recently rewatched Jersey Shore and I was like, I actually felt really sad at a moment because I was like, wait, I was a senior in high school. I would watch this and I would watch Ronnie just literally abuse the shit out of Sammy and everyone would be like, Sammy's so annoying.

• 1:08:26Hannah Berner?

  It was crazy.

• 1:08:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Looking back now, I'm like, wait a minute.

• 1:08:31Hannah Berner?

  A formal apology to Sammy sweetheart because she was enduring like, everyone's been through.

• 1:08:36Paige DeSorbo?

  If that aired now.

• 1:08:39Hannah Berner?

  Well, he'd immediately.

• 1:08:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he'd immediately be obviously removed from the show.

• 1:08:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. We literally were like, Sammy, you're no fun.

• 1:08:47Paige DeSorbo?

  He threw her bed outside and we were just like, Sam, again, tonight you're crying again.

• 1:08:54Hannah Berner?

  Sam, can you stop complaining? You're so annoying.

• 1:08:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And then when she was like, she was like, I'm gonna leave. And everyone was like, don't leave, don't leave. And I was like, guys, you were all just so mean to her. You're like, we hate you. When she's clearly in this awful relation, let her go home.

• 1:09:10Hannah Berner?

  And we're just like, Ronnie's just like having fun and Sammy's ruining it for him. And then when she was like, Ron, don't make fun of my big toe. Don't make fun of her big toe.

• 1:09:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, it really made me upset rewatching.

• 1:09:22Hannah Berner?

  Throw her bed out of the apartment and come for her looks, which leaves me with our mental health moment. If a man makes you feel.

• 1:09:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's it. If a man, and move on with your life.

• 1:09:34Hannah Berner?

  If a man makes you feel ugly at any moment, even if you are ugly in that moment.

• 1:09:42Hannah Berner?

  Leave him.

• 1:09:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's really good.

• 1:09:45Hannah Berner?

  It's so true. Like, remember those relationships where like, in theory, it should be good, but like, you just didn't feel gorgeous around him, even though you knew you are.

• 1:09:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. I actually haven't felt that. I feel like since like my early twenties.

• 1:09:57Hannah Berner?

  Also know those guys who you know you look like shit, but when you're around them, he makes you feel like you're just like a model off duty.

• 1:10:04Paige DeSorbo?

  That's just like guys being insecure. Wait, before we go, did you see that one TikTok couple that I actually well, I've heard their names? He's like a chef.

• 1:10:14Hannah Berner?

  I was supposed to edit, I was just being like, bruh, bruh, bruh.

• 1:10:16Paige DeSorbo?

  He's a chef and she always does like funny videos and it's like in their family, they just built this like gorgeous house. They've been like a TikTok couple for years. They've been together since they were like 14. She actually made a TikTok and was like, we are officially together more years than we've been apart. She found out he was cheating on her and she like immediately left. And I just think that's such a good message. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say.

• 1:10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was really devastated by their divorce. I was like, wait, they were like the only TikTok couple that I was ever like, oh, they seem like normal because I felt like they didn't share that much personal stuff. All their videos were like funny.

• 1:10:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, they couldn't. He's in another woman's bed.

• 1:10:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. He was in another relationship.

• 1:10:55Hannah Berner?

  He's like, hey, can't tell you what I did today.

• 1:10:56Paige DeSorbo?

  But there was a lot of people being like, let this just be a message. Like, the moment you feel like that, or you find something out, yeah, leave. Which like, I'm a hypocrite.

• 1:11:07Hannah Berner?

  It is, yeah, it is really hard to leave. Sammy stayed. We've all stayed.

• 1:11:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally. And don't feel bad for staying.

• 1:11:15Hannah Berner?

  You'll be fine, is our mental health moment of the week. Enjoy your week, you guys, and know that we have a second episode coming out on Friday and love you. Bye.

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