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Sup, Gigglers?
Gary, fix your Wi-Fi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
I mean, the day just got away from me.
Hello, my Guggenheim Gigglers. Yeah, we're cultured. You knew I was gonna say that.
Um, it's DJ Dash Hound and DJ Doxson here to party.
Whenever I come to do the pod, because you live on the Lower East Side, I am put together like a Lower East Side like outfit.
I love, you love dressing for the part. You love being like, oh, I'm downtown. I'm a whole new bitch.
I wake up thinking I'm a Barbie. I'm like, what is my profession today? What am I, what is my vibe? What is my outfit?
You're a Lower East Side cool girl. Um, I love how you brought sunglasses.
I walked in and Chris was like, what's the pant situation? Never seen that before. Is that a scarf? Is that a one piece? He was very intrigued.
I was very curious.
I feel like Chris has learned so, like Chris has been to Giggly Squad University and like you're, you've almost graduated, not yet.
Yeah, no, I don't think you ever graduated.
It's a multi-level marketing scheme.
I've recently met people that know Chris, like on their own accord.
Oh, I didn't know he had other friends.
And speak so highly of him. I know. I didn't know he did things outside of this room. I thought he lived here the whole time.
Yeah, I thought he just waited for us with his legs swinging, like excited for us to come in.
Said they're gonna come back next Monday.
Um, side note, I was trying on sunglasses today because you just brought sunglasses and I put them on. They were like kind of big and Grace looks at me and goes, it's giving Kate plus eight.
When I tell you.
Mike, wait, my eye has been glitching all.
Yeah. Do you want to know why? Because you've been socializing all weekend while I was alone in a hotel room.
Sending me copy.
Copious voice messages. And guess what? I was sending them because I wanted the tea. You're out in New York City, running around. I'm alone in a hotel room in Buffalo, which shout out to Buffalo, but I'm clearly bored.
Which I heard you kept calling Boston.
Who told you that? Who told you that? No, you guys, my worst nightmare happened this week. I was going through a lot this weekend alone and I'm sending.
I got so many DMs. Hannah just called all of us Boston, but we're actually in Buffalo. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Miss you.
Okay, I wasn't going to start with this, but here we are. I was peeing as one does.
You look so pretty today.
I love when you give like old money. I love when you wear designer.
You know, we haven't been in the studio. Whenever we're in the studio, we want to make out like we love each other. And then on Zoom, I'm like, what, what do you want? What do you want from me? Um, so I'm peeing before my show. Now, the way my shows work is I have an opener. Caroline Banowitz, who's amazing, and she does this song about dick pics as her like finale song.
Okay.
So once the dick pic song goes, I know like, okay, be ready.
I haven't gotten a dick pic in
I mean, years.
That's why we're at peace.
No, truly.
Even when, and then when people show me other their dick pics that are being sent to them, that's like more abrasive.
One time I had, this is so bad. One time I had a boyfriend and we literally broke up because he couldn't stop sending dick pics to other people.
I thought you were gonna say you. That got so much sadder.
I was like, you really have to stop.
Wait, and he's like, but I'm not like saying anything.
Well, I don't know what you're talking about. He was like, he was like a classic, like you didn't see that. And I'm like, I literally experienced it with my own body. And he was like, no, you didn't.
He's like, I've never been on a date with them. I don't tell them I like them. I just.
What are you talking about?
Share the auto, share the art of my shaft.
I heard guys use point five now. Anyway, so I'm like peeing and there was um, a photographer there. And we start yapping. Normally I'm like alone in my green room.
Yeah.
Um, cause you're not there. And it's just my opener on stage and I'm like, ready. So I'm yappy, yappy, yakking, yapping, yakking. Suddenly I hear the crowd start clapping and I go, oh my God, I'm on. But I haven't been like, like, like, I don't know, like, ready mentally. So I'm like frantic and I like, in these theaters, I had to like run down a hallway.
Yep. No one came and got you?
No, not all the theaters are that organized.
It's really a lot.
There's one thing happening there. It's you going on stage. What do you mean?
Cause I think we weren't like that far. We weren't.
They're only there for you.
But I also think they're like, Hannah, you have one reason to be here. So you should be ready to go on.
See my eye?
No, the other one went.
We don't know. I don't know what's going on.
Don't look directly at me. So I like sprint down the hallway, wasn't that long of a hallway. And I get on like perfect timing and I look at her and I could tell Caroline can't tell, because to leave your opener without you coming on is like not okay, that's super embarrassing, where they're like, okay, where is she? Um, once I got stuck in an elevator, but otherwise I'm really fucking good at being prepared for it, because that's the only reason I was there. So I get on stage and I was not giving myself excuses, but I was a little bit thrown, I was a little frantic, I was feeling anxious. And I grabbed the mic and you hear the energy and and I just go, what the fuck is up, Boston? And as I'm saying it, I realize, okay, there's two ways to go about this, I could just hope that they didn't hear that.
I could just continue on like nothing happened and gaslight them to think they heard it in their head. But, yeah, we're in Boston. Or I say what we're all thinking, which is, I just called all you guys Boston. So obviously I went with the latter and I was like, I am so sorry. And but also Buffalo, by the way, is the most
like they are a tiny town that has their own football team, like they are the most proud town in all of probably the country. So the fact I said hello, Boston, I could have gotten stoned.
They live through full on tundras. And they don't complain at all.
Nope, they're just sweet.
And they don't care. And they're and they're happy about it. And they're like, we see the sun for forty eight hours, once a year. And we're good.
I thought upstate was Westchester growing up, turns out it's not, it's Buffalo.
No, it's really not.
And so in that moment, I like you, for the next like five minutes, I'm doing like the beginning of my show and I'm just repeating it in my head, like, was it as bad as like, yeah, that was really bad?
I couldn't believe people were coming to tell me, they're like, oh my god, you gotta hear this. Hannah's so stupid.
You're from Road Fashion Week and people are like, your friend is so fucking dumb. But the best was when I got offstage. The messages were so funny, they go, Boston loves you, thank you so much for coming to Boston.
We do love Boston.
Best show ever.
I haven't done a show in Buffalo.
You have to, it was incredible. It was like seventeen hundred girls all messaging me, making fun of me.
How'd you get there?
I had to actually fly to Rochester and then we drove. Cause I had a show in Rochester the night before. Anyway, meanwhile, I'm in, I'm struggling. And I'm sending you some stuff and I, if I see photos of you, I need a story.
And you know how we got there, who you saw, whatever. And she's not giving me anything. So I started making up voice notes. I was like, hey, I gotta tell you about something.
Hannah sent me some of the most incredible voice notes this weekend. And here's the thing.
Couldn't tell you what they're about.
No, I couldn't either now. But at the time I was like, oh my God, like I saw them come in and I did, wait, this is the funniest thing. I'm at a shoot all day Friday. I'm with Trezemay. We're doing stuff all day. I get two voice notes from you, back to back, two double two minuters. I'm like, oh my God, let's freaking go. Now they put the update of the phone. You know how you can click see more and it's like written out?
So I'm like around people. So I'm not like just gonna play your voice.
Hey, do you wanna hear what Hannah's saying?
That would be a death sentence. Who knows what could be said? So I'm like, I click it and I'm reading it and someone comes from over my shoulder and they're like, oh my God, what is that? And like, first of all, HIPAA.
No, that is such a HIPAA.
I'm like, second of all, let a girl get a voice note from her friend and know that it's not appropriate to listen to you right now in this moment, but I couldn't. I had to know what the gist was.
This is the problem with being friends with a public figure is that she's either locked away in the safest, most private place where she can be like blasting your voice notes, or she's surrounded by a full team of twelve people and everyone who's ever worked in Hollywood. So you just have to pray. Um, I don't remember what I said, but it was literally to be like, you respond to be like, these are the best voice messages I've ever heard. And I go, okay, I was, I wanted you to respond.
I know, but I didn't have the time. And honestly, I didn't even have, I didn't have any good gossip to give you. But what people don't talk enough about with voice notes, like when you're.
Like, I know when you're about to start laughing about something.
So listening to a voice note, like, just know when you're recording it, I'm laughing at the same time. Okay, and I think that's important for you to know.
That like warmed my heart.
Also, I have a paranoia that I'm gonna be like really good, like, two minutes into a voice note and then fuck up like two and a half minutes in and like, I'm a performer, like, I don't like, you're fine with the coughing, I don't like too much, but you're a cougher. You're an avid cougher.
Well, you should hear like when I send ads to Grace.
Also, you're like-
Sorry, I need a minute, actually.
When you record the ads, not to, you know, shit, well, how the sausage is made, you press record and then you record like all the ads. I have to record it one by one because I'm convinced I'm gonna like knock over my recording.
I'm on there for like twenty-five minutes.
My voice note-
I feel like Grace has heard me on the phone with my mom, but I stop and do like my own thing.
You're just therapy, you go, wait, my therapist is on the line.
There has been times where I'll go on Instagram for like five minutes, I'll be like, oh shit, I'm doing ads. Grace, sorry.
God forbid you like, just send her two files or more than one file.
I don't want her to have to open that much.
You know, I want her to get one email, click it.
I'd rather send like ten one-minute voice notes than one ten-minute one because
Right.
I think it's easier to consume, but that's just my process.
I have a girlfriend who, we don't speak often, like, we speak quarterly, honestly. We catch up and then we move about our lives.
Q three is when we follow up.
A couple of days ago, this bitch sent me a fifteen-minute voice note. I mean, the updates were completely necessary. I literally got an update on her entire summer.
Wait, that's, um, a standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival.
I set it down and I was like, you're getting like unfolding, I'm like, oh.
But doesn't the phone sometimes stop playing it because the phone goes to sleep?
Yeah, and I have to like, no, it's all-
Was it better than mine?
No, it was more informational, I'll say.
Which, honestly, valid.
Definitely more factual. It wasn't as opinion-based.
Definitely cohesive. Definitely full sentences reformed.
Um, we have so much to talk about. Shall I begin with, oh, no, you, it's coming to you. I shall begin. Yes. I shall. The flow is yours. It's yours.
So stupid stuff. Wait, not right now. We're not talking about this right now. But I watched the Charlie Sheen documentary because I knew you were going to talk about it. So in a later, at a later time, we'll dive into it. But I just want you to know, going into it, I've seen it clock it. Okay, I'm, that's making me very excited.
This is, this is a voice note from Paige, by the way. She coughs, she tells you what she's gonna talk about, then forgets what she was gonna talk about. Couple of weeks ago, I get a mess, a DM from Morgan Stewart.
Who is Lord our Savior. You know, the best thing about my assistant is she's so Gen Z that like I bring up Morgan Stewart at least once a week. Like I'm referencing her and every single time I say it, she goes, who? And I go, honestly, no, keep me young. Thank you. I got a DM from Morgan Stewart and I'm like, my life is made. We start like chit chatting, whatever. And then she goes, I'm having a dinner during fashion week, but not like a fashion week dinner. And I, I totally knew what she meant by that. And I was like, of course. For people that don't know, can you explain? Like she was having a fashion week dinner, but she was having a Morgan Stewart chic dinner. She wasn't having like a. Branded in your face. Yeah, like drapes.
She didn't have drapes and candles. She's not having fluorescent lighting. She didn't have any fluorescent lighting. Yeah. She obviously had a photographer. Yes. But like, it was very, grab your skinny margarita, take a seat, give two pieces of gossip and then move along.
So I had never met her before in person.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, so I didn't like know what to expect. First of all, walk up to the restaurant. So chic, not a sign in sight, could have literally been walking into a dentist office. They're like, private room is upstairs.
So New York.
This French restaurant, it was called, I think it was called Le Vieux. I was just like, yeah, Blair Waldorf like goes here. So I walk in, she's the first person I see, we hug. We immediately start talking about glam. So I'm like, no, I'm home.
Were you nervous?
I was very nervous, but I wasn't nervous enough to take a beta blocker.
Because I was like, no, I manifested this. This is like,
This was gonna happen. We knew it.
Yeah, I knew this. She literally just had her friends at dinner.
Me, Tinks, this girl Sarah, Ariel Charnas, we're like the only people that I feel like I knew from Instagram. Everyone else, I was like, oh, that's your best friend.
So it was like a fun, funny dinner.
Sounds like a bachelorette party.
I had two cocktails, which I never do.
That means you were in a good mood.
I will say I was the first person to leave.
I didn't even have to ask.
The clock struck ten fifteen. I was like, I'm literally, I melt at ten thirty, so I have to scramble.
I live on the Upper West Side, which is basically Europe, so I have to go now.
Here's the other thing.
You had to beat the traffic.
Dinner was on the, dinner was uptown.
And that's how I knew, I was like, I'm in the right place at the right time.
Right place at the right time. All the kids are downtown. They're doing their thing, they're walking the runway.
Being punks.
They're being literal punks. Okay, and I'm uptown at a mommy and me. And then I'm going home.
I was uptown too, but I was in Boston.
But she was the best. It was like just a chic, cute dinner.
I love that.
We all got a belt. And I was like, amazing.
People don't talk about belts enough.
No.
Belts are never in the conversation. Then one day you wake up and you go, oh no, this outfit needs a belt, and you don't have one.
Yep. I hoard belts, actually.
Speaking of accessories, I have a hot take. As someone who's, I don't know if it's because I'm anxious or possibly ADHD, or just I get overwhelmed easily. I can't do bracelets. There's too much. What's it called? Sensory overload. When I wear a bracelet, I'm like, I walk into a room and I'm like, I wear your bracelet. I try talking, I'm like, are you looking at my bracelet?
The girls that wear the same necklaces every single day and my thought is, are you showering in them?
Yes, you are.
And sleeping in them?
Yeah, you are.
Because that would, we are not really jewelry gals.
No, like when I got engaged, I was like, cool, I don't wear rings.
You guys, I don't wear my wedding ring.
Cool, I don't want it.
I don't want my wedding ring, I don't wear my wedding ring because I started getting rashes. I don't even know why. Um, and people be like, are you not married?
Eczema? Or like it was like?
I think it's because when I wash my hands in so many different states, sorry, I'm traveling a lot. When I'm in Boston versus Buffalo.
Wait, are you gonna blame like a water issue?
Yeah, the water's different and it, I think I also don't dry my hands to the point every time and it starts, it starts getting red. Like I get a rash, so I don't wear my wedding ring. No one needs two rings on their finger. That's prison. It's a prison. And then when I wear, if you wear, God forbid I wear a bangle. I'm like, I can't focus on this conversation because my bangle's moving.
When I see the girls wearing like the hand chains.
My friend Madison plays tennis in her body chain.
I'm like, I don't know how they're doing it.
Not to call her out, but it's like, it's, it's like girls who wear sweaters that are itchy. Just for fun. Like, I think bracelets, or the girls who have stacked bracelets.
No, I can't.
I could do that maybe for a look.
I can't even, we are, we wear studs. Like I love stacking jewelry and wearing a bunch of bracelets and wearing a bunch of rings for a look. But then when I get home.
Get it?
Get it off.
Also, when you can't get a bracelet off. Nothing more humbling.
One of my friends had a bracelet on, I'm not kidding, for like four months and she was like, well, because I couldn't get it off. If the moment I knew I couldn't get it off, that's the moment I have to take pliers because I'm not gonna live in my own prison that I've created. I'd start having a literal panic and then get it off.
Also, I am wearing a ring right now that's like huge and I love it, but it's the only thing I'm gonna think about this whole pod.
I know for a fact that you're cleaning out your apartment right now and these are all items that you've recently found that you forgot. And you put it all together today and you were like, wait, cool outfit, forgot I had it. I know that's what happened because never have I once seen you walk in with earrings and a ring and like also a fit that I haven't seen in a while.
Now that I'm fully exposed. Now I feel fucking naked.
Now that I feel naked on this one.
Um, I saw Jacqueline, our nail girl, after a full summer not seeing her, I opened the door and she was like, funny seeing you here. I said, Jacqueline, do you know we talk about you on the podcast every single week? And she was like, yeah, it's really funny. And I was like, come in. And then I said, Jacqueline, I need natural.
And then.
Let me say.
She went arguably too natural because I said, Jacqueline, you can give me like fake long ones. And she goes, no, you just cut it off. So I lost privileges with her. She goes, so I'm gonna keep it.
Jacqueline could demote you.
No, she demoted me. Like she tried with me.
And is over my shit. And she said, I'm keeping your nubs nubby and this is what you get.
Sometimes Jacqueline will give me an option. She'll give me two options, right?
Which I love.
I feel like she's secretly testing me because I know that she likes one of the options more. And so sometimes I'll say one and she'll look at me and I'll go, the other one.
Wait, Jacqueline, how did you just do that?
Say yes, she'll just nod and look back down. And I'm like, I'm so scared right now. But also I did, I haven't cut, cut them, but maybe I did once and she hasn't forgiven me. But Jacqueline's back in my life.
Good.
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I also hung out with Vampire Weekend.
Part of them?
They're a band. Chris knows them. Chris knows them.
How old are they?
Do they have another ballad of some sort? I'm not, I'm not, that one's not clicking.
These guys, like, they're just in a band.
What is it Vampire what?
Weekend. They're very, like, they popped off 10 years ago. So I was like, how's tour, guys? And they were like, good.
Where'd you meet them?
At the airport. Because there's a girl in their band who's also a comedian, who's like a genius and also does violin, Isabelle.
And she's...
This is the most ADHD conversation I've ever been a part of.
Anyway, I thought you were gonna know who Vampire Weekend is, but because you don't...
Do you even know me? Does that sound like something I would know what the fuck that is?
Nelly? And I'm like, no!
I thought you were talking about Vampire Diaries and you were gonna bring up that the star of Vampire Diaries just broke up with her fiance.
Shall we talk about Nina?
Shall we?
She's having so much fun on Instagram.
The rumor is that he cheated on her. Then she did a TikTok that was like...
Like iconic.
Kind of basically like...
Confirm me it, fuck you.
I think they were engaged for like five years. I'm gonna be honest, I never saw them together.
Yeah. This is also...
And look, sometimes I like an ugly guy with a really hot girl.
I didn't wanna say it.
Sometimes I'm a huge fan of that.
I didn't wanna say it, but...
But they were taking it to the limit with that one.
This is the thing. There are handsome gingers out there.
A hundred percent.
And there are talented gingers out there. And there are kind gingers out there.
This one in particular, I think it's giving she gave him too much confidence.
That's what it is.
Snowboarders are, need to calm down. Like, as a former skier... When I was skiing, everyone was so polite. Excuse me, whatever. Then I'd fucking die.
I almost got murdered.
No, they come, they're all, they literally are like
A group of fourteen year old
Punks.
Snowboarders?
No, like, they rob you. And then they steal your glasses and then you're scared and freezing and then they give you the finger as they go down every time. I don't trust a snowboarder. I don't like them.
They literally take my glasses, slap them back at me, give me the finger.
Ski down and like, take all the hot chocolate. I don't know.
No, like they get off on scaring people. They're like those kids on Halloween that like throw, um, eggs with an air in them. Like those are snowboarders.
It's not a thing.
Oh my god, in the city, yeah.
Oh my god, that's intense. Um.
Yeah, so shout out to Nina, we love you. Um.
Wow, your list is
My list is crazy. Oh, can we bring back a saying?
Can we please start saying that shit's whack?
Like, can we say whack at least?
I feel like
Like, that's so whack.
So whack.
I don't know, as I said it aloud.
No, I feel like I've said it recently.
Whack. Like, whack was my everything. Everything was like, it's whack.
It's funny because on TikTok, there's a lot of Gen Z, like, people making videos of, like, four millennials, like, hey, here's things we don't say anymore. Here's things like that, like you said, that means the same thing here. Whack is such a great word to describe anything. See, I think, feel the same way with swag.
Oh, yeah.
Thank god for Justin Bieber.
Thank? TGIF.
What happened?
TGIF, and not to bring up Topanga, she's on Dancing with the Stars this year.
Can I make an announcement?
I think I'm gonna watch Dancing with the Stars this year.
Really?
I've never watched it.
I've never watched it either. You're just like feeling, are you feeling like old school reality TV?
I was like, is that you're trying to get into like competition?
No, it's more like, first of all, my TikTok is just full of all of them. And then I realized they all do like incredible TikToks. There's a Gen Z that works at Dancing with the Stars, because these, um, no offense, but these guys are dancing, like, training intensely. They're not also coming up with like incredible TikTok strategies.
The social media team for that show is.
Killing it. So every day I'm like, I'm.
That's the only reason I knew anything that was going on with Brooks and Gleb. Like, I didn't watch the show.
I think I might watch it. Um, because there's also like more people that I like kind of know. Sometimes I feel like it used to be they just get like people who were on a TV show like twenty years ago. Or like an athlete that like broke his ACL and is like, doesn't know what to do.
I love a like former athlete coming back to do something.
Yeah, and you're like, he has CTE.
Find your passion.
But he's figuring it out. So like, I think I might watch it.
And this is coming from.
I might watch, it's so crazy because I might watch The Bachelorette this year.
Oh, well, that is, that is another level of time consuming. Oh, because of Taylor. Frankie?
Paul. Wait, okay. TikTok.
Both Mormon, both Mormon.
I've been getting a lot of like nostalgia videos. I want to bring back shopping from a catalog. Like, I, like, obviously it's being taken over by shopping online. But like, do you remember being young and your mom getting like the Victoria's Secret catalog and going through and like circling? Like different things? And then she'd physically call and order what she wanted.
She was like number eight, seven, four, three, two. Like, I would fuck that up.
Like, the women in STEM, just thinking about there was like a group of women ready to receive these phone calls. From a group of women who are at home being like, okay, number eight.
This was an underground economy that people didn't know of. But what's crazy about those magazines is it was used two ways. It was girls like us being like, mom, I really want this like crop top. And then just like men jerking off to it.
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
They didn't have like-
Wait, that's disgusting.
Cause men didn't have porn back then. They had to like find magazines. And, or they had, yeah, they had to like draw it.
Men would draw boobs and jerk off to it, from memory.
Why? I guess that never crossed my mind that like a thirteen year old boy back then like getting pumped for their mom to get like the summer Victoria's Secret catalog.
I was like going to look at it and I'm like, why is it crispy? Why is it pretty just crispy? Daniel!
Wait, that's so vile.
So vile. I also had a friend who got in trouble cause he was printing out like a photo of boobs or a photo of a woman.
And his mom caught him like mid-print. Like, what are you doing? He got in like big trouble.
One time I was at my friend's house in like 7th grade and we were like playing in her basement and we found all of her dad's like dirty magazines.
Aww.
And I was just like, wait, what?
Also, this is-
Wow, that made my eye twitch.
This is TMA, TMI, but my brother was like thirteen or fourteen and my, he went to camp and my parents got a call and they were freaking out. They were like, "We have to tell you something. In his cabin, a, uh, one of the boys brought disturbing material that he may or may not have seen." And my parents were like, "What did he see?" Like, they really got scared. And they were like, "It was a photo of girls in bikinis." And my dad was like, "Okay, can you bring it back?"
But I guess like they had to warn them.
Send a picture, let me see.
No, let me see what-
Let me see what he saw.
Also, women like he saw it, they're like, "He may or may not have seen. A kid brought that in." Um, but anyway, that was like what men were busy doing instead of learning about consent. Do you think purple lettuce thinks it's better than other lettuces? Lettuce eye.
Yes.
Because when I'm eating purple lettuce or a colored carrot.
You stop and you go, you're gorgeous.
If I have a tri-colored carrot on my plate.
Your tax bracket has changed.
My tax bracket has changed. I know more languages than you do. Like, yeah.
I feel like the purple lettuce like knows, like, and it's always like curly in a way where it's just like, like you could put it on a dress and it always comes out of nowhere. Like you're like gnawing on your rabbit food and then you're like, who is she?
Are you just talking about like cabbage?
I don't know enough about the lettuce species to be able to, what is the purple? I don't, look, I'm starting this new thing. I tried to eat salads last week. It didn't work.
Wait, I texted Grace like recently and she was like, sorry, Hannah's like not responding because she's in a Pilates class. And I was just like, what?
I'm trying to be healthy before I go on tour. Before I go on tour.
Oh, did you, are you sticking to the rule on tour where there's no eating after at 11:00 PM?
Oh, you haven't stuck to it. Funny, because last year we had to stick to it.
Yep.
Well, last year you tried to put me in a caloric deficit and I was famished. This year you're willy-nilly, just ordering whatever. I don't know what town you're even in. You're so stuffed.
I did get a really good Mexican Bowl on Saturday.
The other day Hannah sent me.
I was eating my feelings after I embarrassed myself in front of all the girls of Buffalo.
Hannah sent me and Grace like in our group chat, a picture of her like being out to brunch by herself.
Honestly, it was such a like mom text. Like, you know, like when your mom's somewhere with your dad, like, we just like, we're at brunch and it's just like the table. Yeah, it's like, okay, but is dad there?
You're so right. You're so valid. I could have taken a cuter photo, but I was texting you guys and then just pulled a photo that I took on my own randomly. It wasn't aesthetic and it wasn't cool.
But just from the photo, I could tell that whatever town you were in, you found the most amazing diner. A couple of key things I could tell from said amazing diner.
The wooden table.
Like a good wooden table, they mean business. When the condiments are already on the table because they know.
So when you have ketchup, salt, pepper, they even have their napkins in there.
Spicy stuff. Also, when you order, you don't order anything. You just say fuck me up fam. Also, do you know how you know it's gonna be fucking good? When the utensils are wrapped in a paper napkin. Like they're not just sitting on a napkin. Not a cloth, but also I don't want just a napkin sitting. I want it like they had, they're going so fast that they're just.
Have you ever seen someone wrap those up and then put the thing on?
No, is it like people doing Domino's boxes?
No, it's like they can go so fast.
Also, this place, it was in San Francisco. They also had juices, which like.
Also, I want a plastic water cup.
And I want it to be so abnormally big, like there's no way I could finish it.
And discolored.
Discolored, cloudy.
And yeah, I got pancakes for the table and by the table, I meant my table.
My god, my eyes like really twitching.
There's like pop culture stuff going on that I want to bring up.
Hilary Duff.
Getting back in the studio.
Well, you want, I don't wanna, I don't wanna bring up an old rivalry. But I would say. We are watching Lindsay live her best life, look phenomenal. She just did Freaky Friday. They had, they had like redone Mean Girls. She went to the premiere. She's just like. She's on every cover. She looks phenomenal. People are like.
She has, she has Verizon ads.
She lives her life in Dubai. She's a mom. No one was bringing up Hilary Duff. And I think maybe she's gonna have a resurgence because of that.
Not to pit women against women, but I think maybe there was some inspiration.
Certainly not pitting women against women. Although I just did, but I do find it ironic that like they did have like a beef back then and now like they're both.
I'm so sad for that.
The millennials are excited. Grace, do you like remember Hilary Duff at all?
Yes, yes.
What do you remember?
Cadet Kelly.
Like Lizzie McGuire.
Lizzie McGuire.
I feel like I loved Cadet Kelly.
Loved, I, but I like loved Kim Possible more.
So you.
I also did like all the Disney double T movies. Whenever there was like a sport and the girl came in, I was like.
See, I loved like Lindsay Lohan clue, like gotta get a clue, like she was in, she was wearing cool outfits.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, anyhow.
Another pop culture topic.
Mm hmm.
Nev.
From, um, the catfishing show.
Is it Neve?
Neve.
It's Neve. Is it Neve?
I think he goes by both.
Cause Neve.
I think he's not picky.
Neve is also an Irish name spelled N A I M G P H or something.
I, I wanna say it's Neve, but.
Okay, could be.
Who am I?
Neve, Buffalo, Boston. He, um, is in real estate now. He just announced. Very casually like on a city bike. He's like, if anyone needs help with their homes. I'm selling real estate.
Wait, what happened to catfish?
I think it's done.
It's done?
But maybe he always had a passion for homes, like maybe the whole time he didn't really care about.
You know what we say about real estate? No, I'm going through a good time. Wake Seven does, I'll be a real estate agent today.
That's for ex NFL players who are one bad day away. Really losing it. They gotta buy a building or something.
For people who are like. Um, people, people, like, like talking to people and they have like connections through the industry, it could help.
I'm actually not gonna knock it because.
We support men in the arts.
No, I support ha- having like a normal job. He spent so, the so much of his life being a TV host and like being in the public.
Do you know how he got famous?
He was catfish.
And did a documentary.
Yeah, so I feel like the last twenty years.
He's been in Hollywood.
He probably wants something that's like. A little more structured, maybe like he's not really traveling that much. It's like chill. People know him. People would like walk in and see a familiar face and probably like want him to be his real estate agent just because of that.
Honestly, I dig back everything.
We're if anyone needs an apartment.
You know what? I'm moving.
You'd be such you. There's another life where you live like in Kansas and you are the it girl of real estate, like every single bench in that town is you but and you're wearing a power suit.
The best.
Like no one's ever your glam is incredible. No one's ever seen you without full glam.
They call me penthouse page.
And there's no penthouses in Kansas.
Really sexual, actually. That's that actually sounds like my only fans page. I take that back. Parkway page. Nope, not still that good.
And you don't actually make eye contact with any of your clients, but.
I've thought about real estate and you know what knocks me down every time? I'm not doing math in my adult age. I put on, I'm past that.
Do you have to do math?
You have to know square footage and like you have to know like there is numbers and I'm like, actually, no.
Did you watch Selling Sunset?
Um, not really. I like don't like if I'm watching a real estate show, it's because I genuinely want to see the houses in the real estate. Like I do find that interesting. I don't care about like the real estate agent drama.
It was a lot of like them getting out of the Yukon SUV slowly so they could see.
It's a lot of arrivals and departures.
There's nothing Netflix reality shows love more than arrivals.
And a non copyrighted music background.
A strut.
She's sexy. She is a sexy one. Yeah, she's sexy sexy.
Netflix will it's hard for a slow strut.
Or it's not slow, but they go slow mo. Yeah.
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How's your fantasy football team doing?
Thank you for bringing that up. It's not, we're not done with like this weekend of playing, but I, I played Taylor Strecker's wife.
Who's pregnant. And I beat that bitch.
I said, oh, you're her momma? You beat the growing baby? Look, come to play.
And losers lose. What, what do we decide?
To Donahue, like, look, come for the beast. You're gonna get eaten. That's what they say. Like, big dog gotta eat.
She's like, I'm literally just trying to like.
She's also like, I don't even want to play in this league.
I'm texting her.
I thought it was something fun.
I'm literally texting her like the mom from the documentary. I'm like, you stupid bitch, why would you pick? Why would you pick that running back? Are you fucking stupid and dumb and ugly?
Wow, are you gonna know how to parent your kid? You can't even parent this team?
Putting you in charge of anything. Wait, I love Taylor and we're being.
We love the Taylors. I want them to adopt me. The Taylors are like, Taylor Strucker is why I got into podcasting. So anyway. Um, and Tia Don, you edited Burning in Hell for like three years.
No way.
People don't know that. She likes to be behind the scenes, um, but I just put her up.
So Ari, is your team overall doing well?
You know, who's also in my league, Andrew Cullen, who's.
Last year I said like, I was gonna do this league with you. Like just.
Is that my fault?
For fun to have something.
I forgot.
No, I thought of it like when everyone was like, oh, I have my fantasy draft next week. And I had a moment where I was like, should I do it with Hannah?
Zero effort.
Well, then I remembered that like, I really don't care.
Yeah, but you'd be so surprised. It's like the girls who go on The Bachelor who were like, this guy is ugly. I don't care. And then you see like eight girls get worked up about him and suddenly you're like, if he doesn't want to marry me, I'll like freak out.
It would go one of two ways for me. I'd either be like so into it and competitive and be like refreshing all the time. Or like a Tamagotchi and I'd forget I had it. And be like, am I Tamagotchi done?
The thing is you get like notifications.
So it's basically me just feeding my, um, high for temporary happiness. So like if a guy gets a touchdown, it's like, you just got 12 points. And every week it's, it's all luck.
What do you win at the end?
Some money, but it's not about the money. It's about the love of the game and it's about.
Then you're probably not gonna do it.
But like when you, when I, like Andrew Cullen had a better draft than me and he was all like.
That's how he talks.
And I'm like, I'm ready to play him.
You are.
Andrew, I'm coming for you.
You were really close to winning last year, right?
I was close to winning.
I remember that.
But thanks for bringing that up. Cause guess what close to winning is? It means you're a fucking loser. Um, but it's, it's really like yelling at guys, um, for like spraining an ankle. Like if a guy sprains an ankle, he like ruins your score. And I'm like, look where you're walking, bro.
Yeah, I get that. Um, speaking of. Nope.
The Chiefs are are the Chiefs lost their first two games, which is kinda crazy.
Wait, did you see Taylor Swift had to walk in with like, she like walked into the game.
Behind the.
Bulletproof something like walked behind something. I don't know.
Very scary.
Did no one was able to see her in the stadium.
I don't think so.
Yeah, can I say something controversial?
There's a girl on TikTok. Cause I'm back on TikTok. Who shaved her head. But didn't like ask her husband for permission.
And then he saw it and said, I'm not attracted to you. You have to wear wigs around me. And the internet is a gasp and like, I'm be honest. It's giving G I Jane chic like. Like when a girl shaves her head, it's not even about like whether you look good or bad. It's like the confidence you exude. Um, it's clearly a look.
Maybe ask your wife is every if everything's okay. Rather than just hitting her with like, don't speak to me.
No, he's literally like, don't speak to me. I'm not attracted to you. And marriage is about attraction. And it's like this.
I bring up the word bangs and you're immediately like, and is everything okay at home?
Yes, I mean, so everyone's mad being like, fuck this guy. But yeah, I think the first sign was not. That he isn't talking to her. I think it's that she thought about shaving her head. It's not that shaving her head's a bad thing, but. When you wanna make a drastic change to your hair, normally means you wanna drastic change in your life.
Yeah, like something's going on. She. That they don't like each other.
If you are staying with someone, look, I've had so many boyfriends that walk in with the dumbest haircut where I look at them and I'm like. The fact that I'm associated with you pains me right now, but then you take a breath and you go, it'll grow out. We're good.
I think there's a lot of times on TikTok like where girls will post something about their relationship or like. Their boyfriend will literally be in like the back of the TikTok, but he's not like smiling ear to ear. People are like, he hates you. And it's like. Me, he probably doesn't. He's like doing it. But then there are times where it's so. Apparent where it's like, you gotta get out of that relationship. My thing where I always, I feel like notice it is. And only because I had a boyfriend once who like was obsessed with talking about this and I was like, you have like mental issues. If you wanna shove cake in your wife's face, I, I think that you are one of-
You hate women, you hate women.
Yeah, you are on a misogynistic level that you actually don't even realize-
Are you talking like wedding day?
Yes. Like, I had a boyfriend who would actively, I'm not kidding, argue with me that if he, if I didn't let him smoosh cake in my face on the wedding day, that like I wasn't fun.
But that's not even a thing, like-
I was like-
But that's not in the bible.
But like, why would you ever wanna take your-
No, no, I've never said anything that you need to, it's, you're supposed to feed it to each other.
Leave the cake out of it. Why would you ever wanna take your hand and smoosh it into my face like that on an aggressive level?
No, also, you're ruining the glam.
Also, the, the day I have glam, we're only here so that I can get the shot.
I want my husband to barely kiss my lips because he knows that he doesn't wanna mess it up. Like, give me an air kiss. Give me an air kiss. Wait, the, the smash you in the face, that's not funny.
And so that's something that I always had like such a visceral reaction to, like whenever I see that on TikTok where like they put cake in each other's mouths, I'm like, no, I don't like it.
No, not, well, it, it is one thing if like the two of them are like, we're so, we're quirky.
Yeah, we're doing it at the same time, open your mouth like that, but guys that are like smushing it and she's backing up.
Do you know what it feels like? It feels like they're doing it for their boys, which is-
Exactly what it is. We waited long enough.
We have to bring up Riley Sheen.
No, I've, I've been trying to watch it for the past three nights because I kept falling asleep.
How, how did you fall asleep during that?
I know.
I was getting jolted, like, but I, I literally clutched my pearls. And I've seen a lot in this, like, I was a gasp, I was going, oh!
No, there were so many things that I was just, if you haven't watched it, it's phenomenal. First thing I wanna point out, the editing of it-
Spectacular.
Spectacular. The cinematography-
The cinematography, spectacular. I liked how it felt like you were like on a-
Put anyone in a, in a diner chatting?
They're gonna give it up. That's why. If you put people in diners, suddenly they lose all privacy.
And they're just like, let me wait out. That was my biggest note about it is, this man did not have to say-
You couldn't water some of that info out of it?
He did not have to say, like, he could have said ten percent of what he said and I would have been like, "That's a great documentary about Charlie Sheen."
At one point, you could see they were like, "Hey, we're done, Charlie." And he's like, "One more thing."
And I'm gonna give you guys an example. This doesn't give anything away. He tells a story about being really high on set, that his eyes were really heavy.
And that finally, the director like noticed enough to pull him aside and was like, "You look like you're falling asleep during your scenes." So he, so I think he's gonna say, "Oh, I'm gonna do snort some cocaine."
As one would do.
Would.
So, as Charlie Sheen would do. He goes, "I go get some ice, shove it up my butthole."
And he says this deadpan and goes back.
He was telling the craziest stories, but he was telling it to you as if he was like, "I just went down to the deli, got us a couple sodas, and they're in the kitchen. Do you want one?" Like, it's how he was like, "I took an ice cube, shoved it up my asshole, won an Oscar."
As you do.
And then, sorry, I didn't mean to squeal, but I'm feeling my emotions. I know, Sean Penn, who by the way, I've never even seen him give an interview before.
So was going on. So was going on there. He was...
Either he had something on him, he lost a bet. Sean Penn, like, Oscar-winning actor.
Is just like, can I say one of his quotes?
He goes, "You know, most guys, when they do cocaine, their dicks get weak." Imagine doing cocaine and your dick gets stronger. That's Charlie Sheen." The way I just said, "What?"
The eroticness of this documentary was so phenomenal. I took, I took away like a couple top-tier things.
One, Charlie Sheen has a phenomenal family. Sounds like his dad and his brothers, great humans. Two, where's the mom? Why didn't they bring up the mom? Didn't even, was there a mom?
Well, that's what happens when the mom is not.
Where is she?
Where she kidnapped?
What is she doing?
In hiding, witness protection. I literally Googled Chao Xin's mom and she's exists, but not one part of the document. But, and it's funny.
Maybe she's just so private.
But like, that's crazy when you're married, your whole family is in the public eye.
I wanted the dad to be on more and I wanted the brother to be on more and I wanted his kids on more.
He, okay, you sound like a producer. Calm down. She's like, I want his first child.
I want his HIV test.
Denise still loves him.
Because, and you wanna know what? I, I love Denise. I do not fault her for a single second. Because when she tells the story of them meeting and hanging out, yeah, he was sober, he was a normal person. And she probably still loves that version.
I don't remember fully from watching Beverly Hills, but she drops the F-bomb.
Every three seconds in the best way.
Yeah. No, I, I'm a big Denise Richards fan.
They did her so wrong on that show, by the way. She, I, they should have treated her with care and respect. So that she had a long career on that show.
Well, you wanna know what? They were all jealous of her because she was a genuinely famous person.
And the most beautiful woman to ever live.
And then come, she was a sex symbol and then was coming on the show and they all wanted to be like, we're better than you.
Been protected to not make her look crazy when she was getting attacked. But, um, the thing with the dad and the brothers.
And she was remarried to like a freak psycho.
Is she still with him?
No, they're getting a divorce, thank God.
Oh yeah, he was like.
He was like a weird.
Very strange.
Very strange bird.
Big jawline. That was just a jawline.
Um, marriage.
Strange man.
Yeah, strange man. So Charlie Sheen goes, my brother and my dad did not wanna be in the documentary. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't want you to say that.
If they didn't wanna be associated with it, but I totally get that. They've probably been through so much.
So much. I mean, it's just been his whole life.
But it is a case of nepotism. For sure, however, he's kind of a genius.
Well, I was gonna say, my other big takeaway is how many chances do men get? How many god, I mean, this man ruined his life. More times than he was successful and every time the general public and TV, he was in rehab being like having his agent being like, you can do any movie you want, they'll have you like if that was a woman or any other person.
Crazy story, which I was surprised he said was about him and Nicolas Cage, which by the way, I didn't know Nicolas Cage was like the biggest party boy.
Do you think Nicolas Cage is somewhere being like?
He literally, the stories he told about Nicolas Cage, um.
It made me, this is sick, but it made me like Nicolas Cage more.
Oh, I didn't realize you were that much of like a freak.
So they go on an airplane. Nicolas Cage takes the mic and like tells them like. They're going down, which by the way, where's the bit? Where's the bit in that? So everyone freaks out when they land, there's cops. And Charlie goes, well, good thing they were a fan. And they were just like, don't do that again. Imagine if a female celebrity did that.
Imagine if anyone did that, like if any other person did that, like, no, it's crazy.
And then when he got to rehab, how, um.
They let him leave?
Nicolas Cage texts him and says, hey, there's a bikini judging contest in Palm Springs and he goes, so I had to go to that.
He was like, hold on, let me get out of this rehab thing.
He told the lady, if I'm not back by eight AM, I'll give you a million dollars. And he got back by seven forty.
I just think it's a great documentary and the last thing that I took away from it.
Push a man and he'll turn gay.
They all have the capacity to go to the other side and I know that.
The way he described it was actually so iconic. He goes, you ever just eat from the same menu every day? And then one day you're like, let's flip it to the other side. And the guy goes, do you regret it? And he goes, no, I wanted to taste the menu from the other side. But he didn't like say he was.
But he basically said that happened from because of, because he was getting off of crack. And so that like felt good for whatever reason. And that's the first time it ever happened. So he probably did so many drugs. His whole brain was like rewired.
And I know some that don't need crack.
But it's also funny because he wasn't like, oh, I had to suck a guy's dick to like, get the water for the fire festival. Like there was no threat involved. He was like, I just, I wanted to do it. Um, which by the way, the way he said it though was so eloquent.
He had a je ne sais quoi.
I think he's bi and like more men should be able.
I mean, I'm part of the problem. I'm obsessed with him now. Like I will give him another chance. I think he should get back to acting. Here's actually, no, he actually shouldn't get back to acting. Here's one thing that no one said like the entire time. I don't think his problem really was. I mean, he obviously had a lot of problems.
They never got to the root of it.
He couldn't be famous. It was the fame. It wasn't like the working. It wasn't the movies. It wasn't like, he had to get up early and memorize these lines. He could obviously do that so easily. It was genuinely the fame. He probably had so many people watching everything he did, talking about everything he did, wanted to see like, and it got too much and no one.
But I also think people always say like, okay, if you're proud with alcohol, there are always coping with the bigger problems. But like they never, they kind of made like his childhood seem like pretty good. I mean.
Yeah, his childhood seemed fine.
His dad was an addict too and was going through stuff. But yeah, the way his family stood by him to this day.
To this day. They sound great.
Even though he, he is a good example of like, you can. Fuck up so many times. And as a man Hollywood will take you back. But in terms of your relationships, like you can. You can try to rebuild and and he, even though he wasn't there for his daughter, is now like taking that time.
No, it was a really good documentary.
I have to say one thing about um that made me reflect on society a little. Okay, no, but like when.
Hannah Peter never serious on the ball. Yeah, we are.
Ask us to be serious, because the second I am, people are like, I'm here for laughter. Make me laugh clown. Um, I will. So he's like on crazy testosterone. He's addicted to like every drug. And he goes on his like hashtag winning.
Which I like forgot about that.
I remember it pretty clearly because everyone, he's going.
Like college?
We were young, but he's doing all these like crazy interviews, saying like the craziest thing, because he's like so. Crazy on testosterone. He's like, I got tiger blood. And the way people responded was like, this guy.
Put him on tour.
Is awesome. People were like, he's saying all the things that we all wanna say.
Give him a marquee.
So when you see a very loud, crazy man, it doesn't always mean he's right.
I wish they did dive into like the team that was around him at that time, like signing him up to sell tickets to shows.
Sixty days in a row. That's when he started doing anal.
You know what? I got it. You need somebody to take that job.
Paige goes, and then we were in Denver and I took a beta block car. I just shoved it up my butt and I went on stage.
The gigglers, they've become desensitized, they have to go.
Oh god, I do have to say, I did have a woman stop me at the airport and said, hi, I have um a twenty-one-year-old daughter and I, I love what you guys do to help, to help her be confident in herself, so don't listen to that part. Now I'm like aware twenty-one-year-olds are listening, because look, they keep us young.
Oh, there is a good show out called Revenge, Love Con Revenge on Netflix.
Which is from the girl who was swindled by the Tinder Swindler.
Who's made her whole purpose in life to help um find other men who are conning women.
So it's kind of like.
Like she's like a, almost like a private investigator?
Well, she gets this private investigator and what I'm obsessed with is it's a woman. So this woman goes, I'm like a dog with a bone. I will stop at nothing.
I want to hire a private investigator so badly.
You want to have.
I don't know what I want him to look into.
You're like, I need to find something else.
I like, I want some, I want to be like, just look into it.
I just feel like something needs to be undercovered. You, you want to be sitting in a, in a van with shades on.
No, I want to be like walking down the street and my private investigator call me like, I got something. And be like, I'll be right over. Why do I want that so badly?
And you want her to print out photos and put it in an envelope and hand it to you and you go, thank you, thought so.
I want to be like, thank you, I'm sending it to my lawyer.
And then like my expert witness is just this gorgeous private investigator.
Next time you tell me that you can't record in studio because you have a UTI, I'm going to get my private investigator. And be like, she's actually, she's at home in Albany and her mom's feeding her lasagna. Do you know lasagna soup is a thing for fall?
Um, I have seen it. I've never had it though.
It's kind of giving, giving just like soggy lasagna.
I'm not gonna lie, I had the best lasagna I've ever had in Tuscany the other weekend. Do you want to know why it was so much better?
Because it's in Tuscany.
But they like burnt it a little, like it was crispy.
You need crisps.
It actually tasted like second-day lasagna, which I like.
Also, I want the bottom too. I want the cheese to be.
The whole thing was crispy and I was like, you guys crush it here. Big fan of your work. Like, no, they're right about you guys. Like, you're fucking crushing.
You look, you go, how's your Italian food? Do it good.
All I think about anytime I go to a different country is, do you guys ever crave sushi?
Do, uh, do the Italians ever think, like, you know what? All I want is some fucking hibachi.
Is there no sushi there?
I mean, I don't know. Probably not a lot. I'm sure there was like one or two, but like, you, you're never in Italy and you see like tacos.
And I'm like, wait, I want them to experience it more.
But you know what? I feel like, cause the Italian's so good, they're like, why would we have like?
I know, but I'm like, don't you get sick of it? Don't they get sick of it?
No, because that's what they know. That's who they are. Like, imagine if you never tried Diet Coke, you wouldn't crave it.
Or normal Coke.
You wouldn't even know.
It's like Charlie Sheen with heroin.
How about it was a girl that got him into it? That I didn't see coming. A girlfriend.
Yeah, which I don't like to blame the woman, the woman. And I would say, like, he knew what he was getting into.
I've never been offered heroin.
I've never been offered cocaine.
You're a loser.
No, I've had multiple conversations where I'm like, why don't they like me? And they're like, you don't do cocaine. And I was like, how can they tell? People can tell. They could smell it.
People just know.
They just know. No, I've never been offered. I mean, look, I know people who know people.
Who know a guy.
Yeah, for sure.
So, watch out. Do you think Charlie Sheen is gonna have like a Pam Anderson revival of his career?
I don't know. I think this was more like, I have to make amends. It's been so many years now. Let me tell you what happened back then. It's taken me this long to kind of get over it. Are you staring at my nails?
Well, no, you were just, like, your long fingers were, like, in my face, so I had nowhere else to look. I was saying, or do you think he just needed money?
Probably a little bit of both.
But also, here's what I'm thinking. He did have Martin Sheena's dad. I'm sure that he had a lot of money set up that he couldn't touch at all. Like, I don't know if he went through all of it. I didn't realize he was the number one.
They didn't have brand deals back then.
Right, but he was the highest paid TV actor ever.
Well, he said he ran out of his money.
Oh, he did?
He was making two million an episode.
I know. I know. But, um...
No, the Charlie Sheen lore, I'm just like obsessed with it.
Especially if he was like overwhelmed by all the fame and stuff and things started to go well. I wouldn't be like, you know what I should do? Do a Netflix documentary right now.
Anyway, it's a really good documentary. You should watch it.
You guys gotta watch it. Um, thank you for giggling with us. I am in Norfolk, Norfolk.
Virginia?
Norfolk, Virginia, um, this weekend. And I have San Diego, a second show added, and Vegas and Phoenix. Love you guys. Thank you for giggling. Talk later. Bye.
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