Spider-Man is Too Sexy + LeBron’s Secret Philly Deal?

YERRRR this WEEK: - Brooklyn Bridge Jumper Surviving - Spider-Man Brand New Day Thoughts - LeBron's move to Philly 76ers - WNBA Culture Wars starting - Paying for an Uber on a 1st date and MUCH, MUCH MORE Timestamps: 0:00 Matching fits + Mark’s LYING 2:03 Schulz’s Spidey moment 7:36 What’s worse? R-word head nod 14:01 Kids remember + Spidey sense 16:22 The bag saved Brooklyn jumper 17:46 LeBron’s got some DEALS 25:02 Bryce, LaVar Ball + Love Island 27:31 Spider-Man is better than Odyssey 29:58 Alexx’s wifey loving up Spidey 40:24 Film “motivation” + Chest rubbers 43:21 Black people love Spidey + Miles Morales 45:33 Odyssey casting + Trojan Horse 49:22 Spider hormones, Billy Bangers + Feet Slappers 53:08 Nolan Hotep + Spidey Puberty Canon 54:45 WASP pretentiousness, SPOILERS + Level 5 mutant 59:36 Googling ages + ANGELS 1:05:42 WNBA culture wars + Marketing? 1:09:42 Rogers “pleading the 5th” + Fauci Files 1:21:40 Political apathy, ID + Price gouging? 1:31:39 Sending Uber for first date? ---------------------------------- This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N. A., pursuant to a license from Visa U. S. A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Savings provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  What's up everybody, welcome to Flagrant.

• 0:02Mark Gagnon?

  Sure.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  Where Schultz see here at Alex Media, Marky Gags, Miles Media.

• 0:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 0:10Speaker 02

  We're all color coordinated today, that's kinda nice.

• 0:12Speaker 00

  Did we all do that?

• 0:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, white up top?

• 0:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:16Speaker 02

  It's nice weather.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  It's good weather.

• 0:17Speaker 02

  Pop out the white tee.

• 0:18Speaker 00

  Hmm, I hear you.

• 0:20Mark Gagnon?

  You have a long sleeve thermal on.

• 0:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 0:23Mark Gagnon?

  Eighty degree weather.

• 0:23Speaker 02

  I dress for my room. Every day I just dress for whatever my room temperature is and I walk outside and go, well, that's not it. And so now I'm just dressed for the winter. I don't know, it makes no sense.

• 0:32Speaker 00

  What happens to your elbow?

• 0:34Speaker 02

  No. Oh, fuck.

• 0:38Speaker 02

  Truly no idea. I've been an absolute mess. My wife's been gone for a week and a half now with a child.

• 0:43Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  And I'm rudderless.

• 0:45Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so you're having fun out here?

• 0:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's getting sleep.

• 0:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, no.

• 0:52Speaker 00

  I almost wanna go in our text messages.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  It's both and.

• 0:55Speaker 00

  Don't both and.

• 0:57Speaker 02

  The first five days were amazing.

• 0:58Speaker 00

  I don't know how to exist with that. I'm Odysseus being tortured by Poseidon.

• 1:03Speaker 02

  No, no, no. Odysseus was having a good time for a little bit, you know what I mean?

• 1:07Speaker 00

  You're on an island with Calypso, eating the lotus flower.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  But then he wanted to go home, then he wanted to go home.

• 1:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, get out of here.

• 1:12Speaker 02

  I had three donuts in bed alone, dude.

• 1:15Mark Gagnon?

  Fire.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. Just laying in bed, woke up, there's still a bag of donuts.

• 1:21Mark Gagnon?

  Feel guilty that you have a fucking gut after eating that shit, that's awesome.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:25Mark Gagnon?

  I'm jealous.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  There's still a bag of donuts on my bed right now.

• 1:28Mark Gagnon?

  There you go, after snack for today.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  My parts are to smell.

• 1:31Speaker 00

  Why don't you tell us the good things about you being?

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I've been sleeping unbelievably.

• 1:35Speaker 00

  Sleeping?

• 1:36Speaker 02

  I slept until one.

• 1:37Speaker 00

  Reading books?

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I've been reading books, I've been going to the gym every day. I saw Spider-Man.

• 1:42Speaker 00

  Whoa!

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43Speaker 00

  Okay, we gotta talk about that.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:45Mark Gagnon?

  Did you see it?

• 1:46Speaker 00

  I didn't, I didn't see it, but um, I almost, I almost, I almost acted like Spider-Man, bro. No, what'd he say?

• 1:54Mark Gagnon?

  Of course not, that you didn't see the movie.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, this guy never sees any movies.

• 1:57Speaker 00

  Some of us still have children, we have to take care of them. Some of us still have to be responsible parents.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02Speaker 00

  But I did, I did have a neighborhood Spider-Man moment almost.

• 2:06Mark Gagnon?

  What you mean?

• 2:07Speaker 00

  So my nanny came back from the grocery store.

• 2:11Speaker 00

  Said the checkout dude was racist.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Against whom?

• 2:16Speaker 00

  Against her.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 2:20Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know. You gotta be specific, you know?

• 2:24Speaker 00

  But she, I go, what happened? She was like, ah, I don't wanna make a big deal of it, you know, sometimes these things happen, whatever, like.

• 2:30Mark Gagnon?

  The man at the store is racist.

• 2:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'll do the accents if you want. So, uh, and then I was like, no, tell me what happened. And, um, and she goes, uh, well, you know, I was checking out and then, uh, he like said to me to move aside so the lady behind me could go. And then I was like, why? And she's like, I don't know. And I was like, was the lady white? And she was like, yeah. And then the lady was like, no, no, no, she was here first, take her, whatever. And then while he was checking the items, I was trying to put them in the bag. And he goes, you can't put them in the bag until you pay.

• 3:06Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm, whoa.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  So I'm like, yo, this is crazy. And she's like, don't do anything, don't, don't, don't do nothing about it. And, uh, and I was like, I don't know. So I go work out and after workout, you know, I'm feeling kinda good.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:18Speaker 00

  Feeling a little bit alright about myself, you know?

• 3:21Mark Gagnon?

  Oh no, this sounds like Sweden again. So, you know, his nanny got fucked up and he ain't do shit.

• 3:27Speaker 00

  I'm going to the grocery store, I was feeling good. So I'm on my way to the grocery store and I drive by Jason's house on the way. And I'm like, yo, Jason, you here? And, uh, he's like, he's like, yeah, what's up? I'm like, what are you doing? He's, I'm just getting this barbecue ready.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  You need a backup?

• 3:44Speaker 00

  Cause I don't know what this motherfucker looks like, you know what I mean? Like, I gotta be ready. And, uh, Jason, I go, I go, listen, I'm going to the grocery store to fuck up this racist guy. You know, I can't tell you anything else about it. You know, are you down? And you know, Jason hits me with the town. He goes, we taking your cars or my?

• 4:02Speaker 02

  It's the biggest town ever. We're gonna fight racist.

• 4:06Speaker 00

  Go to fight racist, yeah. The inverse of what would happen in Boston.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. The town is like, hey, we're gonna go be racist. Like, whose car are we taking?

• 4:13Speaker 00

  There's a guy helping bike people around the park, we gotta stop this while we're here. Yeah, anyway. So we go, I go into the grocery store, I see the guy who I think it's, he just, it feels that way. I take a picture of him immediately, saying to the nanny.

• 4:27Mark Gagnon?

  So you profiled the racist?

• 4:29Speaker 00

  Profiled the racist immediately, okay? Saying to the nanny. Nanny hits me back like, yes, that's him.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 4:35Speaker 00

  I'm like, alright, it's, it's up.

• 4:38Mark Gagnon?

  Miles was working at the grocery store?

• 4:41Speaker 00

  We need to race, we need to race very badly, we need to race very badly, okay? Jason goes, he grabs my arm, he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. I go, why? He goes, is that the guy? I go, yeah. He goes, yeah, that, I've been coming here a while, like, that guy is a little off. I go, yeah, he's fucking, he's racist, like, this is, this is the most off. He goes, no, no, no, like, I think that, there's no way he lives by himself. Like, I think that guy's like, he's got something going, going on over there. Like, I think he's special.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 5:08Speaker 00

  I go, okay. I go to a different checkout line, black dude there, he's Jamaican. And I go, yo, let me ask you a question, bro.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  Let me wanna ask you a question, bro. Let me wanna ask you a question. No, I go, let me ask you a question, that guy over there. And he goes, I go, is he like, it's like something up with him? And this is what he says, he goes, uh, he kinda smiles, he goes, he goes, yeah, man, he's retarded.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  Like retarded, like Jamaican retarded?

• 5:43Speaker 00

  He goes, he's retarded. I go, I go, okay, hold on. I go, but like, my nanny said like, he might have done something racist. And he goes, he goes, unfortunately, man, sometimes he says the N-word. I go, what? I go, I go, I go, but what do I, like, what do I do about this? Like, and he goes, he goes, he's retarded.

• 6:11Speaker 00

  Now, now, just, so I'm looking at this now and I'm just thinking, what if I don't call Jason?

• 6:19Speaker 00

  What if I don't call Jason?

• 6:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you go straight up to him.

• 6:22Speaker 00

  I go right to the guy.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:24Mark Gagnon?

  Shit, okay.

• 6:25Speaker 00

  And I go up to him and I'm like, hey man, are you racist? And he's like, yeah.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  And then you gotta just be like, alright, thanks, and then move on.

• 6:34Mark Gagnon?

  Next time you can't call Jason, cause that would have been a better story.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  So what happened?

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:42Speaker 00

  So I walked out, I let the racist guy be retarded. First of all, if you are racist, just pretend you're retarded. And you can really do whatever you want.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 00

  But like, thank god Jason was there. Like, that's a headline, if I'm pressing some guy who's retarded?

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then you fight, you beat him up, and then they investigate and they're like, why'd you do it? And you're like, well, he said something to my nanny.

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Or, we fight, he is me.

• 7:15Mark Gagnon?

  That's what you get for rubbing those.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Damn, that's a rock and a hard place.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  I don't know, I don't know what you do there.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  But I, dude, you can't get him fired.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  No, that's, uh, I mean, how is he working customer service?

• 7:34Mark Gagnon?

  Like, which one's retard or racist? Which one's worse?

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Which one am I, oh?

• 7:42Speaker 00

  Like, to get, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, we all unpacked, we all unpacked, we're gonna unpack, we're gonna unpack. While we unpacking, you gotta let us have some fun. No, I gotta clear it up with me right now.

• 7:54Speaker 02

  If only he chooses to be racist.

• 8:02Speaker 00

  No, being retarded is obviously a decision you make in your life, based on certain circumstances.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Exactly, based on who robbed you.

• 8:09Mark Gagnon?

  I'm talking about the establishment having to keep a person on.

• 8:13Speaker 00

  Well, what are they gonna do? Fire the guy who's mentally disabled, dude?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, if he's being racist.

• 8:19Speaker 00

  I don't know if you can fire a guy for that.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  I think you absolutely can't fire a guy.

• 8:23Speaker 00

  But isn't by definition, like, if someone's racist, they're just retarded? Like, is?

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Oh, that's, that's what, I like that.

• 8:29Speaker 00

  What do you expect from somebody who has, who's mentally deficient? You expect them to be like a progressive, loving person?

• 8:35Speaker 02

  Just don't put him in a public, like, a customer service role.

• 8:38Mark Gagnon?

  That's why he still has a show.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Make him stock the shelves.

• 8:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, make him stock the shelves, where he has a box cutter and then black people are walking down the aisle.

• 8:44Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:45Speaker 00

  You have to put them in the safest, most confined space.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  There's gotta be another one.

• 8:49Mark Gagnon?

  The smartest.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Security?

• 8:52Speaker 02

  What?

• 8:52Speaker 00

  We're closed. Sorry, Alex Media, we're closed.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  You could put him in security, a lot of them.

• 8:59Mark Gagnon?

  That's what happened in Sweden. They literally had a retarded guy.

• 9:04Speaker 00

  And they got a bad guy off the street.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  Sweden was safer.

• 9:08Mark Gagnon?

  The guy walked up to me, he said, we're closed, while the place was packed.

• 9:12Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no.

• 9:13Mark Gagnon?

  That was his excuse.

• 9:13Speaker 00

  No, no, no, while I was walking in.

• 9:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 9:16Speaker 00

  That was one of the most audacious shit I've ever seen in my entire life. I walked in, he said to you, uh, we're closed.

• 9:24Mark Gagnon?

  Damn, I beat up on a retarded guy.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  I mean, technically, you got your ass kicked.

• 9:30Mark Gagnon?

  I caught the first shot, I caught the first shot, I clocked him.

• 9:33Speaker 00

  Of course, yeah. According to him, you punched him seventeen times.

• 9:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, I'm going with his story.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  We had to make you sound like a pussy in court, but his story for you was incredible, you were a fucking superhero.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  I think you put him in charge of like, uh, of stocking the shelves or something.

• 9:49Mark Gagnon?

  No, he has the box cutter if you stock the shelves, cause you have to open a box.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  But his racism seems a little kind of like implicit, like, it seems like he's just like prejudiced, you know? I don't know if he's out here attacking people.

• 9:58Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, you gotta give him the person who hands out the samples.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  Oh, that's, okay, that's good.

• 10:04Mark Gagnon?

  Cause you cannot say no to the retard.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 10:08Mark Gagnon?

  You would want something without paying for it.

• 10:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what you want to do it.

• 10:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  He would have a great opportunity to raise his.

• 10:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:20Mark Gagnon?

  I'm sorry, we're not sampling watermelon today.

• 10:24Speaker 00

  Right? Like, this is a horrible, like, actually, the least amount of damage is to do that role. But you're in a pickle if you're the grocery chain, because you don't want the press of firing somebody who is racist beyond their mental ability. Their mental ability doesn't allow them to not be. Usually, they're the nicest people.

• 10:43Mark Gagnon?

  I feel.

• 10:43Speaker 00

  Usually, the tards are just smiling, everything. This is a specific type.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a new strain, I think.

• 10:49Mark Gagnon?

  So the guy, when he breaks the bottles and he's just like.

• 10:51Speaker 00

  Oh, it wasn't Downs. It wasn't Downs.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it was like the Jamaican version, where like, he was just a little special, and so they call him retarded.

• 10:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Like, they sometimes will kind of dig up like a blank, you know?

• 11:01Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 11:02Speaker 02

  That's, that's what I'm assuming.

• 11:03Mark Gagnon?

  All right.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  But you can maybe incept it into him.

• 11:05Mark Gagnon?

  I wish you'd set something up.

• 11:07Speaker 00

  I was like, what's up with that guy over there? Is something off with him? And he goes,

• 11:12Speaker 00

  he's retarded.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  I think you gotta try to incept, like, good, good values into him. Like, next time you go to checkout, like, just try to, like, you know, small talk him. You can put, like, good, good vibes into his head.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  Make him appreciate minorities.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Exactly. Buy, like, black olives. Be like, don't you love these olives?

• 11:31Speaker 00

  There's so many black people working at the store with him.

• 11:33Mark Gagnon?

  I know, it's crazy.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:35Speaker 00

  So, like,

• 11:37Speaker 00

  what would you have done?

• 11:40Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, if he was retarded, I would have ignored it.

• 11:43Speaker 00

  You wouldn't have ignored it?

• 11:45Mark Gagnon?

  No, I wouldn't. If he called, like, if he was being racist, but I can tell he's really retarded, I'd be like, all right, whatever. That's like giving energy to a fucking racist, I mean, a homeless person on the street, saying wild shit.

• 11:57Speaker 00

  That's a good, it's like, if you engage with it, they're just gonna say more.

• 12:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dangerous.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:02Mark Gagnon?

  And then you're in their world. And they got retard strength.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:05Speaker 00

  Time, bro. And he was strong, bro.

• 12:09Speaker 00

  He was strong. I saw him palm a 24 case of Poland Springs.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  One hand.

• 12:14Speaker 00

  Like that, boop, and then take it off.

• 12:17Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  And when, when he did that shit, I was like.

• 12:19Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's when you went to the guy.

• 12:20Speaker 00

  Chalk it up to the hand, bro.

• 12:22Mark Gagnon?

  He went to the other guy, he's like.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  He just booped a 24 like that.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Easy.

• 12:27Speaker 00

  That's a two-handed lift with your legs.

• 12:30Mark Gagnon?

  That's impressive work for you.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:33Mark Gagnon?

  I could do just arms with this.

• 12:35Speaker 00

  Give me, you don't have legs to lift it.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  And you're a little, you know.

• 12:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:41Speaker 00

  Retarded.

• 12:42Mark Gagnon?

  A little, a little.

• 12:45Speaker 00

  How has there ever been a moment, like, when you shook hands with someone who was mentally retarded? And there was like this, did they ever give you the look like, oh, he has it too, like?

• 12:58Speaker 02

  You never walk through the mall getting a head nod? Like, you and your, you and your homie, you know?

• 13:03Speaker 00

  You know, when you're out of the country, when you're out of the country.

• 13:05Mark Gagnon?

  The black person head nod, but we don't do the retarded head nod.

• 13:08Speaker 00

  No?

• 13:09Mark Gagnon?

  We don't got a sign for each other.

• 13:10Speaker 02

  Oh, you guys need that. Like a Harley wave or something, you know?

• 13:13Mark Gagnon?

  You see each other. Throw him one at O. Give him a little Trump shit.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, let him know.

• 13:18Mark Gagnon?

  Give him one at O. See if that works.

• 13:20Speaker 00

  Shows this Saturday, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Garrison Grounds. I'm gonna be out there. Mark Gagnon coming.

• 13:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  Lucas Zelnik coming, Cam Patterson coming, Rory Gardner opening up the show. Okay, we will, guys, we'll see you guys there. The show.com.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Also, great news. At the end of the year, I'm going to a bunch of cities. I'm going to Mic Drop in Plano, Texas, going to Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego, Detroit, and Salt Lake City in the new year. I can't wait to see you guys there. You can get tickets at Mark Gagnon Live. Come out to a show.

• 13:52Mark Gagnon?

  And guys, thank you for all the flagrant crew that came out to my tennis event. It was fire, it was sold out. Next one, August 22nd, just head over to theallloveclub.com, get your ticket. Hurry up, it's about to sell out.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  What was Jason's feedback after you left? Was he like, man, I saved your life?

• 14:06Speaker 00

  Bro, I told the story in front of his kid.

• 14:10Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, shit.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  Kid goes to camp.

• 14:12Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 14:13Speaker 00

  Tells the story. Now, in the story, he's saying the N-word. He's not saying the word, he's saying the N-word.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:21Speaker 00

  But the kids tattle.

• 14:23Mark Gagnon?

  You never know.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  You also never know. But the kids tattle, and when they tattle, they're saying, he's saying the N-word. So then Jason gets the call.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Jason got the call. Dude, these kids remember anything. It's, it's like, every single word you say, they got the whole story mapped out. You gotta work out your story. You gotta have them walked in.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Did he get in trouble at camp?

• 14:48Speaker 00

  Nah, cuz I think Jason knew the guy ran a camp.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  And he'd be like, look, no, he was saying the paraphrase of the word.

• 14:54Speaker 00

  The guy, the guy was.

• 14:56Mark Gagnon?

  You know Jason was happy as fuck. He's like.

• 15:00Speaker 00

  Jason said to me, fingers like, his like, fucking, his like, one and a half year old kid will be like, holding himself up somewhere, and there's like, another one and a half year old girl somewhere, holding him stuff, and he'll just send me a pic, like, yeah. And it's like, what? He, he already got it. He already got it. He's like, what the hell's going on?

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  But, yeah.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  You're Spider-Man in a way.

• 15:26Speaker 00

  You gotta take care of the neighborhood, man. It's really not, it's really not anything more than a neighborhood, you know?

• 15:31Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, this guy's still on the streets, yo.

• 15:34Speaker 00

  Say again?

• 15:34Mark Gagnon?

  He's still on the streets.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  Who, Spider-Man?

• 15:36Mark Gagnon?

  No, the retarded racist.

• 15:39Speaker 00

  I know it's sad. I know it's sad.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  That would be a fire, like, you're like, you have spidey sense for racism. Like, you can just feel it, and it just pisses you off.

• 15:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know. He fucking hired you.

• 15:49Speaker 00

  You gotta keep your enemies close. You gotta keep your enemies close.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  I keep them right there.

• 15:56Mark Gagnon?

  And be like, exactly what's going on.

• 15:58Speaker 00

  Okay?

• 16:01Speaker 00

  I'm not gonna say it. Anyway, um, so what's going on, boys? LeBron, LeBron?

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, how funny is that?

• 16:09Speaker 00

  We got Bron coming. What else we have? We have Bron coming, with Spider-Man coming out.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Spider-Man, Fauci.

• 16:14Speaker 00

  WNBA is, is crushing it in the media cycle. Crushing the media cycle.

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Fauci.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  The guy jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge and lived.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:26Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't know you could do that.

• 16:27Speaker 00

  He had that bag, that bag.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 16:30Speaker 00

  That bag, that wind force.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  The bag worked.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Nah, for real, yeah.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  It saved his life.

• 16:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 00

  Hundred percent. So, you did, you never jumped off some shit with an umbrella as a kid?

• 16:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like, not the Brooklyn Bridge.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, but like, the further you jump up, the more the umbrella catches. If you jump off something short, the umbrella can't really umbrella.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  But it seemed like he didn't, he wanted to live.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's why he used a bag.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  But also got butt naked.

• 16:53Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, I mean. You're doing it for attention, right?

• 16:58Speaker 00

  There's one way to guarantee it, is you jump off the Brooklyn Bridge, your dick dangling, you got a Trader Joe's bag that's holding you up.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  No, it's a delivery bag.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  Oh, he was a Amazon delivery guy?

• 17:07Speaker 02

  It was like, like an Uber Eats guy or something. And I'm pretty sure, it was like, one of those, like, big, like, insulated delivery bags.

• 17:13Speaker 00

  What an ad.

• 17:16Speaker 00

  What an ad.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  We will get you your burger anywhere you are.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  I mean, we will get you there. No matter what, we will get you there.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Oh, you're on the Hudson? Easy.

• 17:24Speaker 00

  Say less. It's the East River, but that's fine. Type.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  You're the people at home. It's for the people at home, okay?

• 17:30Speaker 00

  I can't believe I didn't jump on that. He looks at that river every single day.

• 17:33Mark Gagnon?

  No, you got me. You got him.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  I really can't believe that.

• 17:35Mark Gagnon?

  You got him, though, immediately. I wanna see dude, though. Can we pull him?

• 17:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll get that. I'll get that.

• 17:40Speaker 00

  Jumped off the thing.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  And he lived, so it's a good story. We can, we can talk about it.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  Yo, the Bron thing is so funny, man. I thought people understood, like, I thought people understood how sports works.

• 17:53Mark Gagnon?

  What you mean?

• 17:54Speaker 00

  Like, everybody's like, oh, he's going there for $4 million a year, or something like that, like, I don't know.

• 17:59Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no, give you take.

• 18:01Speaker 00

  I mean, pussy. It's like, once you're LeBron, like, all right, you know all this drama around Kawhi?

• 18:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 00

  And like, they're doing this investigation, like, you know, were the Clippers paying some other company that then is paying? And it's like,

• 18:16Speaker 00

  yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  This is how it works, like.

• 18:22Mark Gagnon?

  You're implying that he took the vet minimum, but he's getting some money under the table somewhere.

• 18:29Speaker 00

  No, not mu, you can't pay LeBron, like, the amount of money that's gonna matter, but like, I'd imagine if I'm LeBron, and I wanna own a sports franchise one day, or get into the ownership of sports teams, I might wanna befriend the guy who owns the Philadelphia 76ers, who also owns the New Jersey Devils, who also owns the Washington Commanders, who also owns a premier league team, something, I forget what it is, who also owns some lacrosse team, who also owns.

• 18:58Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 18:59Speaker 00

  So it's like, I imagine any of these guys that are making decisions on where they go, it's not about the vet minimum. It's like, yo, I'm out of here for a year. Maybe we get a championship, maybe we don't, but like, what, what I am gonna get paid in.

• 19:11Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I like this.

• 19:12Speaker 00

  No?

• 19:13Speaker 02

  So you go for the vet minimum?

• 19:14Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't, I didn't peep that. I thought it was just, he really was planning to come to New York, and with us winning the championship, we fucked his whole shit up. Like, he had a place already, he had the documentary ready.

• 19:26Speaker 02

  The lease was signed.

• 19:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  And he's like, well, I'm just gonna commute. But he's just keeping his place.

• 19:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's what I, that's what I thought.

• 19:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, a hundred percent. I, I wonder where he's staying here.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 19:36Speaker 00

  I don't know, I wonder if the owner of the 76ers got a place in New York? You know what I mean?

• 19:50Speaker 00

  This is, this is, this is shit where it's like, why, why, why are people trying to make sports uninteresting? Just let this shit go, like let Kawhi get his little bag on the side. There's a fucking salary cap. They're, they're worth more than the team's supposed to pay them. Just look the other way, can we have some fun? Shit, like what are we doing there? You know what I mean? Like I don't want anybody looking into anything.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  I want us all just go, hey, everything's good. Best players are gonna go where they need to go, they're gonna get their shit.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Didn't LeBron get a Hummer when he was like 18 and it was like the biggest deal in the world? Do you remember this?

• 20:26Mark Gagnon?

  Oh yeah, he was.

• 20:27Speaker 00

  That's a sure bet.

• 20:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 20:29Speaker 00

  I loan you money. All what you're gonna get is your guaranteed contract. Like I don't think that's that crazy.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  So you think he's trying to get a piece of 76ers?

• 20:38Speaker 00

  Bro, there were people, no, not the 76ers, but like I think that like having relations with a guy like that and like coming to your team and generating a billion dollars in revenue or whatever you're gonna generate for the Philadelphia 76ers, getting paid four million dollars for it. I think that there probably is gonna be a nice little like wink wink.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  But does LeBron need to do that though? Couldn't he just go into any franchise and be like, hey, you want me on the board? Like couldn't he just do that already being the greatest player ever?

• 21:05Speaker 00

  Nah. Nah, cause once you stop playing. You don't really have that much value.

• 21:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you too.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Really, like?

• 21:11Speaker 00

  What value?

• 21:12Speaker 02

  What did Jordan do with the, what was it, the Bobcats?

• 21:14Speaker 00

  Jordan had arguably the most successful sneaker brand in history. Aside from Nike. You know what I mean? Like Jordan made way more money with his investments than he did with playing basketball.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  True.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  And I don't think Jordan made money until his last few years, like.

• 21:32Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, he made money, he did make real, real money.

• 21:35Speaker 00

  Well, we would call real money in terms of like what these players make now.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Right, but 90% of Jordan's income came probably from.

• 21:40Mark Gagnon?

  And think about it, it's like most of these owners, fucking old, rich billionaires, like white billionaires, they're like, ah, yeah, you LeBron, I'm still a billionaire motherfucker.

• 21:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, you still an employee.

• 21:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  Still getting W2. If the check is like, you still gotta call him. And be like, yo, you didn't pay me 10 million dollars for this month or whatever, like it's, you still have a different dynamic.

• 22:02Mark Gagnon?

  Like imagine Jordan couldn't even get a piece of the Bulls.

• 22:05Speaker 00

  How crazy is that?

• 22:06Mark Gagnon?

  He had to go to the bucket.

• 22:08Speaker 00

  They're not giving you a little piece? Like why would I give you a piece?

• 22:11Speaker 02

  I assume it's like, yo, it's LeBron, it'd be cool to have him on the board, give him a little cut, that or another.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  You want a boy, if, if, if Jordan can't get a piece of Bulls.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  You think LeBron's getting a piece of a team he never played for, never won a chip for? And also what connectivity does he have to that? Like if you're LeBron, you're like, give me a piece of the, the Cavs or something.

• 22:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is like, do people not think this happened? Like how naive are we? It's like, it's the same people who think that like college basketball players just started getting paid with NIL deals. Like it's adorable. Oh, you think that this financial system like just came out of nowhere? They're getting the same shit they were making, not the same, they're getting more, but they're just getting paid now above the table before.

• 22:54Mark Gagnon?

  Now they're getting taxed on it.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  Basically. And they were getting taxed, so I mean, they had all these fucking, you would do like an internship in the summer for some hedge fund. Of the dude that went to Duke and they would pay you crazy money for a little internship. Like they just found ways around it, but these guys all got paid.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  I assume there's always like some type of shenanigans, but I never know exactly how it works and what LeBron ultimately wants.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  I mean, again, I can't speak for LeBron. That's what I would want if I was.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  That's what I would do personally.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, try to get like the Beckham deal.

• 23:27Speaker 00

  Also, what are the chances that the 76ers even go to the finals? Like?

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Well, Calci.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  Zero.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 23:33Speaker 00

  I mean, I think it's zero.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Has him at 12%.

• 23:36Mark Gagnon?

  Calci's dumb.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  Dumb money.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Above the Knicks, Knicks are at 9%.

• 23:40Speaker 00

  How are you gonna, okay, so OKC is first for some stupid reason.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  22% for OKC.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  San Antonio second, Philly is third, they've proved absolutely nothing. And New York is fourth and we are the defending champs with the best player in the world on our team.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:56Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, so let's.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  But you get Bron, you get Bron, all of a sudden that bumps up. I think they were at like two, they were at like 2%.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  Years old, what is he gonna do at 42? He wasn't doing it with Luca in LA.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Inspiration, the power of friendship.

• 24:09Speaker 00

  Yo, shout out the power of friendship.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  It's gonna go a long way.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, it took Argentina real far. Did I tell you, I tell you that I was talking to a guy at the, at the game and he goes, uh. He goes, yeah, Spain, you know, they just play this incredible defense and they have this like amazingly methodical offense and they're just constant, it's just constant pressure by holding the ball. And Argentina, their thing is the power of friendship. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, that's kind of how they play. It's just like the power of friendship.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, they all love Messi so much. That's what the 76ers are gonna do. They love Bron so much, they want to get him a ring, they're all gonna come together. All the guys on that team, whoever they are, they're all gonna, they're all gonna rally around Bron.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  There's no way, Calci, you've got this absolutely wrong. Anybody trading right there, you have it absolutely wrong. The, the real money is on the New York Knicks to repeat again and then another year after that and probably go fourth straight, maybe five.

• 24:56Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna put some on New York.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  It's not, it's now, it's easy money. Yeah, done. Locking in.

• 25:03Mark Gagnon?

  I can't believe I got caught by some AI shit, cause I saw some shit where his other son got drafted to the 76ers. I was like, oh, this makes so much sense.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  I hit the boys with that one to verify, cause I was like, nah, this is too crazy. Said Bryce got drafted, drafted as an unrestricted free agent.

• 25:18Mark Gagnon?

  I was like, oh, that would be a legendary.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Good, he could play with Bryce, right? Like is that possible? Technically.

• 25:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, doesn't he have to play, play one year?

• 25:27Speaker 00

  I think Bryce played one year at Arizona, no?

• 25:31Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay, so then, yeah, he could.

• 25:33Speaker 00

  Maybe redshirted, but yeah, you just need one year and then you come in. And you could definitely make that, like if that's the goal, you could make that happen.

• 25:39Mark Gagnon?

  That would be fire.

• 25:41Speaker 00

  You get both your kids in the league?

• 25:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  You like one kid away from, uh. LeVar Ball, like you're almost as great as a dad as LeVar.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Almost, almost.

• 25:54Speaker 00

  LeVar is the code, obviously, and all three of his kids at one point in time were playing some form of professional basketball.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Have you seen him walking around with his missing leg? And he's just showing it off. And he's like, yeah, I don't give a shit, I still hoop on you. And just like, he's like, I'm wearing pants today and he pulls it up.

• 26:08Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  Shows his leg off.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Nah, he got confidence.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Didn't slow him down at all.

• 26:11Mark Gagnon?

  You have to give up to get your kids in the league, right?

• 26:14Speaker 02

  That's a worthwhile trade. Would you lose a limb to put three of your kids in the NBA?

• 26:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, the three kids I don't have yet, so.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Bring them back to life.

• 26:23Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 26:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, who got more confidence, LeVar Ball or the chick from Love Island?

• 26:32Mark Gagnon?

  Which one?

• 26:32Speaker 00

  The one-legged girl from One Island.

• 26:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I don't know this.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  You didn't know this girl?

• 26:36Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 26:36Speaker 00

  She's like a Paralympic athlete that was on Love Island.

• 26:40Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 26:41Speaker 00

  And her name is Bea or something like that, but like.

• 26:43Mark Gagnon?

  You into this shit?

• 26:45Speaker 00

  I, I, I. It's, first of all.

• 26:48Mark Gagnon?

  This is crazy.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  My wife started watching, I didn't realize it's a new episode every day. They're cutting a new episode five days a week or something.

• 26:57Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really? I did not know that.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  Beatrice, yeah.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  Why is she cute?

• 27:03Mark Gagnon?

  Pass a fail.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  Pass or fail? I'm a married man, bro. I'm married, bro, I'm married.

• 27:11Mark Gagnon?

  But you can still pass a fail.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  You're the only person that could pass or fail it.

• 27:14Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 27:15Speaker 00

  Cause you're not married.

• 27:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but she still lets me do that. Oh, I gotta tell you a story later, but we'll get to it.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  Tell me, tell me.

• 27:21Mark Gagnon?

  No, I'll tell you later, I'll tell you later.

• 27:22Speaker 00

  On the pod or off the pod?

• 27:23Mark Gagnon?

  On the pod, on the pod.

• 27:24Speaker 00

  Tell me, we're in storytelling mode.

• 27:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but this, it has to do with Spider-Man.

• 27:28Speaker 00

  So we can get into Spider-Man?

• 27:30Mark Gagnon?

  So you saw, you saw whatever.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  How was Spider-Man, first of all?

• 27:34Mark Gagnon?

  The best Spider-Man ever. And it's a top five Marvel.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  What did I tell y'all?

• 27:42Mark Gagnon?

  It's a top five Marvel.

• 27:43Speaker 00

  What did I tell y'all?

• 27:44Mark Gagnon?

  It's a top five Marvel.

• 27:45Speaker 00

  What did I tell y'all?

• 27:46Speaker 02

  You also said it was better than The Odyssey.

• 27:49Mark Gagnon?

  It is.

• 27:50Speaker 00

  Financially it is.

• 27:51Mark Gagnon?

  Boom.

• 27:53Speaker 00

  Have you seen The Odyssey yet?

• 27:54Mark Gagnon?

  People don't lie. Exactly. You went, you went out your way to see Spider-Man.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  That is true. I contributed to the data.

• 28:00Speaker 00

  Who'd you go to see Spider-Man with?

• 28:01Speaker 02

  I went with my pal Miles and my pal David. Yeah, we all sat separately.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  Wait, you couldn't even watch it together?

• 28:08Speaker 02

  It was packed.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Cause it was sold out?

• 28:09Speaker 02

  It was jam packed.

• 28:10Mark Gagnon?

  Everywhere, bro.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  It was that good?

• 28:14Speaker 02

  I thought it was fun. But I've never seen Marvel movies, I don't know, I don't have taste.

• 28:19Mark Gagnon?

  Any of the backstory, like come on, that's a big part of the movie.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  How much, how much backstory do you need to know to appreciate the movie? We're not gonna give away any spoilers, by the way, go on.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  I think very little.

• 28:29Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, you need a good portion.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  A little.

• 28:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  You need to know everyone's minds got erased at the end of the.

• 28:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, if you don't know that, then like all the stakes is gone.

• 28:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was a lot of confusion.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Everyone's minds got erased, eaten, but not Spider-Man's.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 28:49Mark Gagnon?

  Not his.

• 28:49Speaker 00

  He walks in the store and then Zendaya doesn't recognize him.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  You gotta know that.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, evidently.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  Know that, that movie's gonna be really just fun.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  It was really fun.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  Oh my goodness.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:04Mark Gagnon?

  But it was good. It's good. It's layers, it's not just like corny.

• 29:08Speaker 00

  You don't gotta defend it, bro.

• 29:09Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, nah, nah, nah, it's good.

• 29:14Mark Gagnon?

  It's got layers, it's got layers, it's not predictable like The Odyssey, you know, even though it's a book, a book that's been out for.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  Predictable?

• 29:23Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but it's just not predictable.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  My fucking watch, it's passing to Christ, like, man, I knew he was gonna die. I knew he was gonna die, come back.

• 29:31Mark Gagnon?

  Three days, bro, three days. Let me guess, three days he comes back. Let me guys.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  We can't spoil it?

• 29:38Mark Gagnon?

  Why can't we? The world has seen it, except you.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:44Mark Gagnon?

  A billion dollars.

• 29:44Speaker 00

  How do you want, how do you want to spoil it?

• 29:48Speaker 02

  By saying what happens?

• 29:49Speaker 00

  Alright, can we spoil it later in the episode? Just so that everybody watching right now can just go.

• 29:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll spoil it, we'll spoil it later. But what's your story that's related to Spider-Man?

• 29:58Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, so I see her with my lady. We're talking about what we think about the movie after. We're like, oh, you enjoyed all the stuff. And then like all of a sudden, she's getting a little like, like she wants to say something, but she's not saying it. I'm like, what's up? She's like, you know, like.

• 30:11Speaker 00

  Tom Holland smash.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  With all due respect.

• 30:17Speaker 00

  Nah, not Tom Holland.

• 30:19Mark Gagnon?

  Bro, she's like, he's in good shape. Bitch, what?

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Wait a minute.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  He is in good shape.

• 30:28Mark Gagnon?

  No, but he's like, he's phenomenal. Yeah, he's like.

• 30:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, but why can't she comment on that? She wasn't trying to get webbed up. She wasn't trying with all due respect. With all due respect. I'm with all due respect. No, that's, that's Spider-Man.

• 30:43Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, yoke da.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  That's webbing. You gotta, you gotta go like that.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying like to grab her or something like that'd be, yeah.

• 30:51Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but what made it worse is that she was uncomfortable saying it. So you know she really wanted to say it. Yeah.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  You got it out of her.

• 30:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. And I'm like, what you mean? But like, I'm fit. And then she had to pull one of these like, yeah, yeah. But.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  No, oh, bam.

• 31:09Speaker 00

  She kissed him.

• 31:10Mark Gagnon?

  I was like, I'm the only one in this house who likes white people. Stop it.

• 31:14Speaker 00

  No. Oh, you felt like white guys weren't a threat. You thought you only had to worry about other black dudes.

• 31:21Mark Gagnon?

  I don't, that is never a threat.

• 31:23Speaker 00

  This is.

• 31:23Mark Gagnon?

  I'm not worried about anything.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:25Mark Gagnon?

  But I did not think she was attracted to white.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  No, but it hurt more because he's white.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  Yes, yes. This is what, can I tell you what this is?

• 31:33Speaker 02

  Welcome to our world, dude.

• 31:33Speaker 00

  Can I tell you what this is?

• 31:37Speaker 00

  This is how lesbians act when like the more straight one likes a guy.

• 31:41Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 31:42Speaker 00

  Because you know, you can't give her what that white guy can give her.

• 31:46Mark Gagnon?

  Is this, look at this.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, dude.

• 31:49Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, he's ripped. He's never been like this, though.

• 31:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude.

• 31:54Mark Gagnon?

  He's like.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  It's easy for you short guys to be able to get this shredded. If you're a hundred five six, you'd get ripped.

• 32:02Mark Gagnon?

  That's really gonna be your excuse.

• 32:04Speaker 00

  It's hard to get ripped as a, look how far I gotta push it. Do you know, like, if, if you're just doing this.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  How many more reps can you get?

• 32:11Speaker 00

  You can do a hundred reps.

• 32:12Mark Gagnon?

  Is he even short? How short is he?

• 32:14Speaker 00

  You are a little less than you.

• 32:15Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Maybe a little taller.

• 32:17Mark Gagnon?

  We both the same tallness.

• 32:18Speaker 00

  What, what level of tallness is he?

• 32:20Mark Gagnon?

  We're the same level.

• 32:21Speaker 00

  He's five seven.

• 32:22Mark Gagnon?

  Oh. That's why he's short. It's mad easy to look like this when you're short. Fucking short, hey?

• 32:28Speaker 02

  That's his hate.

• 32:29Mark Gagnon?

  No, he's fucking, he's a midget. He's like two inches from a midget. Nah, that's why.

• 32:34Speaker 00

  That guy.

• 32:34Mark Gagnon?

  It's way easy to look like that when you're short.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Yo, your girl likes white guys, bro.

• 32:39Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 32:40Mark Gagnon?

  Son, immediately next day, I'm in the gym. I'm back lifting now.

• 32:44Speaker 00

  But you, you just got bleached.

• 32:48Speaker 00

  He's not about the gym, bro.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, sunscreen.

• 32:50Speaker 00

  She likes something else.

• 32:51Mark Gagnon?

  No, but now I realize she liked when I had the muscles. All this time, I'm trying to get fucking tennis skinny. And now she looks at me and she thinks I'm frail out here.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  Your girl didn't meet you as a tennis player, bro.

• 33:01Mark Gagnon?

  I know, she met me like that.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  She met you as a hardened Swedish criminal.

• 33:05Speaker 00

  She met you as a Queens goon. That's a Queens goon.

• 33:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 00

  She likes guys from Queens when you really think about it.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  She loves guys from Queens.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  Peter Parker from Queens, bro. Peter Parker from Queens, you're from Queens. I mean, you're really from the views community or whatever. He's from the streets of Queens.

• 33:21Speaker 02

  He's from sunny side.

• 33:22Speaker 00

  Son, you can't even swing on a building where you're from.

• 33:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Where you're from, you can't even swing.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  There's nothing to grab on.

• 33:29Speaker 00

  It's nothing. You might as well walk.

• 33:32Mark Gagnon?

  We did do a lot of walking.

• 33:33Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying. This guy, damn, bro. So she was, she was just like geeked up. With all due respect. No, with all due respect.

• 33:44Mark Gagnon?

  I'm in a gym now, watch. Give me, give me, give me a bump.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  And he has a spider tattooed on him. Oh, man.

• 33:51Mark Gagnon?

  That's good. That's good that you even remember that.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  He's trying to like.

• 33:54Mark Gagnon?

  You checking me out.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  I'll check out.

• 33:57Mark Gagnon?

  That was good.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  No.

• 33:58Mark Gagnon?

  That was good. It do look like, it do look like Spider-Man.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Show that to the fucking people.

• 34:04Mark Gagnon?

  It look like the Spider-Man guy too.

• 34:05Speaker 00

  Yo. You're a substitute Spider-Man. And then she found the real thing.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  You've been putting it in her brain this whole time that she really likes Spider-Man.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  Or maybe, yeah, maybe she saw your tattoo.

• 34:17Mark Gagnon?

  Why did I break this up? Why did I do this to myself?

• 34:21Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 34:22Mark Gagnon?

  So yes, I left loving the movie and now I hate this shit. Fuck Tom Holland.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  I fuck Tom Holland, bro.

• 34:28Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking short motherfuckers. It's mad easy to look like that when you're short.

• 34:31Speaker 00

  Nah, Tom, you're the man, bro. You're the man, dude.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  He was great.

• 34:35Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know, I don't know shit about movies. I was like, this guy's off.

• 34:37Speaker 00

  Luckily for you.

• 34:38Mark Gagnon?

  Way better acting in this than.

• 34:40Speaker 00

  Can I just point something out?

• 34:41Mark Gagnon?

  Odyssey, right?

• 34:41Speaker 00

  Alex, I want to make you feel comfortable. Luckily for you, he doesn't like white women. So your girl's fine.

• 34:49Mark Gagnon?

  Good point.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  I mean, layers of backhanded.

• 34:54Mark Gagnon?

  I know, I know. That was so good.

• 34:56Speaker 00

  You will have to acknowledge the caucosity of your girlfriend.

• 35:00Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 35:00Speaker 00

  But he's not into it.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  And she was rejected by five seven Tom Holland.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, like dude.

• 35:07Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, nah, nah.

• 35:07Speaker 00

  Come on, bro.

• 35:08Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, nah, damn.

• 35:10Speaker 00

  How's your girl gonna get that guy? He only likes black women, huh?

• 35:15Speaker 00

  He don't want to drag it to you, dude.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  He was.

• 35:18Speaker 00

  With all due respect, with all due respect.

• 35:21Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, nah, nah, nah. You just big me up. I like that.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  You're in a quagmire here. That's tough.

• 35:26Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck. You back in the gym, guys.

• 35:28Speaker 00

  Really?

• 35:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, fuck this tennis shit.

• 35:30Speaker 00

  Did you really? Did you really feel insecure?

• 35:32Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but then I looked, I thought I still looked like that.

• 35:35Speaker 00

  You do look real. Okay, so here's the other thing.

• 35:38Mark Gagnon?

  Right.

• 35:38Speaker 00

  Can I be honest with you?

• 35:39Mark Gagnon?

  I haven't lifted in like six months.

• 35:41Speaker 00

  Let me be honest with you. Any guy who's ripped in film is skinny. I was talking to this.

• 35:49Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah, when he has clothes on, he don't.

• 35:51Speaker 00

  Not even that.

• 35:52Mark Gagnon?

  He looks like you.

• 35:53Speaker 00

  Brett.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  Then he takes that off. I'm trying to dig you out. I'm trying to make him feel good.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  I know, right?

• 36:00Speaker 00

  And now what I, I'm gonna leave you in that. Now I wanna leave you in the cave.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  He wants another, he wants another.

• 36:05Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, man, lash it out, man. Come on. I gotta compete with.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  Brad Pitt in Fight Club was like a hundred fifty pounds.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, no one thought he was big. He's always little.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  I thought he was, I thought he was strong and shit. Like, I didn't think he was a hundred fifty pounds.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Fair.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  So apparently in movies, when you see these guys that are shredded, they're just lean as fuck. They're not actually as big because the camera's gonna make you look bigger or whatever.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, gotcha. Also, can I say, just to add to your point? Being jacked in a movie, I don't see that as that impressive.

• 36:36Speaker 00

  Nah, that shit is impressive, bro.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Because it's like.

• 36:38Mark Gagnon?

  Well, my shorty did.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  Was she like sitting uncomfortably?

• 36:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, stop.

• 36:44Speaker 00

  No, with all due respect. No, with all due respect.

• 36:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, yo.

• 36:47Speaker 00

  No, no. I'm being honest, you're saying, you're talking about how worried she was.

• 36:51Mark Gagnon?

  I'm mad because I purposely found a theater because she always gets cold. So I found a theater that had heated seats.

• 36:56Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 36:57Mark Gagnon?

  And she had to turn the heat off.

• 36:58Speaker 00

  No.

• 37:01Mark Gagnon?

  She had to turn the heat off.

• 37:02Speaker 00

  Who had to clean the seats? With all due respect. Who, who has that job? Somebody has that job. Somebody has that fucking job.

• 37:13Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking racist retort.

• 37:14Speaker 00

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• 38:41Speaker 00

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• 39:24Speaker 00

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• 40:54Speaker 02

  I mean, if a million people, 10 million, 100 million people, how many people saw the movie? Are gonna see you without a shirt on? I feel like you were getting good shape. Like, anyone would, right?

• 41:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  So it's a little bit like, alright, you have the greatest motivation ever.

• 41:06Mark Gagnon?

  Son, he's in Street Fighter looking the way he looks.

• 41:10Speaker 00

  Even that motivation don't really work, bro. I have the motivation.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  They told him not to, they told him not to.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Nah, I stayed in shape. I stayed in shape for one shirtless scene. Literally after that scene was filmed, I was at the crafty table. I swear to my life, I said, do we get it? They're like, we got it.

• 41:30Mark Gagnon?

  We believe you.

• 41:31Speaker 00

  And then I got them little Fig Newton bars, you know? Oh my, one's blueberry, one's raspberry, you can get them. And I had like three of those to the face. And my body just, like, I could feel it actually swell up in real time.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Yo, we need a pickup. You're like, oh.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  Oh, the next day we did. The next day we filmed more without the shirt.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  The continuity is crazy.

• 41:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, you wouldn't even recognize it.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  He has tits in the scene, what's happening?

• 41:54Speaker 00

  It's fucking crazy.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  But I feel like if you were doing a whole movie shirtless.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  You would.

• 41:59Speaker 00

  Would my ego get involved?

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course. You get on gear, 100%. You get shredded.

• 42:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, this is PD, this is everything. That's fake. That's fake.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  This was his favorite movie.

• 42:12Mark Gagnon?

  It was, but he ruined it.

• 42:13Speaker 02

  It was.

• 42:14Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking Tex and shit.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  This is tough.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  What does your girl want to do to that?

• 42:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, yo, yo, yo.

• 42:21Speaker 00

  No, no, like, with all due respect, like, what do you do to it? I don't know what you do to that. Do they just rub it? Like, what do you do with a guy who's in good shape? I'm just saying, hypothetically.

• 42:31Mark Gagnon?

  Relax.

• 42:32Speaker 00

  What would my wife want to do with a guy who's in good shape?

• 42:34Mark Gagnon?

  Relax.

• 42:36Speaker 00

  But what would she want to do?

• 42:37Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know, she wouldn't know.

• 42:39Speaker 00

  But what is your girl gonna do to that? What did they do with it?

• 42:43Mark Gagnon?

  Absolutely nothing.

• 42:44Speaker 00

  I agree. But hypothetically speaking, you had a body like that. If you had a body like that, hypothetically speaking.

• 42:51Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck you, I had that.

• 42:52Speaker 00

  What would she do with it? What does she do with your good body?

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Like, trace the veins all the way down.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  Does she just tickle them? Does she play it?

• 42:58Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, she likes, yeah.

• 42:59Speaker 00

  She would rub it.

• 43:00Mark Gagnon?

  Likes rubbing the chest, yeah.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  She rubs the chest?

• 43:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  What else?

• 43:03Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck you.

• 43:06Mark Gagnon?

  I'm mad, I'm mad. I'm gonna call her right now to be pissed the fuck off.

• 43:10Speaker 00

  Oh, it's crazy.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  Keep in mind, he's healing an injury from tennis right now.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Oh, which injury you got?

• 43:15Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking tennis elbow.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  Yo, son.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  Tennis elbow, watching Tom Holland, jacked. He in a movie theater, trying to keep it together. Girl, turn off the seats.

• 43:25Speaker 00

  Your girl won't fuck you, you can't even jerk off because you got tennis elbow. Girl, you're thinking about Tom Holland, you can't even stroke it.

• 43:33Mark Gagnon?

  I tried going lefty, I can't. I did, it don't, it don't.

• 43:36Speaker 00

  You can get it started, Lefty, but.

• 43:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you can't get there.

• 43:39Speaker 00

  Nah, it's a real A race.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  You tap yourself out?

• 43:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, nah.

• 43:49Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, man.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  I thought it was fun. I do notice black people love Spider-Man.

• 43:54Mark Gagnon?

  The fuck you mean, black people?

• 43:55Speaker 02

  I just noticed that. I got watching the movie there, I said, oh, black people really like Spider-Man, that's interesting.

• 44:01Mark Gagnon?

  What theater you went to?

• 44:02Speaker 02

  I went to a theater in Brooklyn, New York.

• 44:04Mark Gagnon?

  What you talking about?

• 44:05Speaker 02

  I went to a theater in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and that was just an observation I noticed about the movie. I was watching, I was like.

• 44:11Mark Gagnon?

  That's how few black people you're around.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, you walk in the movie, you're like, wow, there's a lot of, black people must love Spider-Man.

• 44:19Mark Gagnon?

  I don't like this.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  What? It's an observation, I can't say a fact.

• 44:22Mark Gagnon?

  It sold a billion dollars. White people love it too.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  He's also a black superhero. He's a black superhero.

• 44:28Speaker 00

  Oh, boy, here we go.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Miles Morales.

• 44:31Speaker 00

  What?

• 44:31Speaker 02

  Miles Morales.

• 44:32Speaker 00

  He's black. He's Puerto Rican.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  I think he's half-black, his dad's black.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  Morales.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  Cause I.

• 44:37Mark Gagnon?

  He's half-half.

• 44:38Speaker 00

  He's half?

• 44:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Who's Puerto Rican?

• 44:39Mark Gagnon?

  His mom.

• 44:40Speaker 00

  And dad isn't Puerto Rican?

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Dad is black. Yeah, dad's black.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  Well, why would his last name be Morales?

• 44:47Mark Gagnon?

  Good point. I think dad's out the picture and that's not helping shit. That's not helping shit. I think, I know, I know. I was like, fuck, do I say this?

• 44:57Speaker 00

  I think he said his mom's last name.

• 44:58Mark Gagnon?

  Do I say it? But I think it's the case.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  Who's the cop? Is that his uncle?

• 45:02Mark Gagnon?

  I think so.

• 45:03Speaker 00

  No, I think the cop is his dad.

• 45:05Mark Gagnon?

  Sure, search it up, I'm pretty sure it's uncle.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Look it up.

• 45:09Speaker 00

  Alright, so you liked the movie, you think it justified, you thought it was amazing. You thought it was top five Marvel movie ever.

• 45:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  What's your top five Marvels?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  His dad's black, his mom's Puerto Rican.

• 45:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  And his dad isn't in his life.

• 45:20Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  That's a coincidence.

• 45:22Speaker 00

  They, they're crazy.

• 45:23Speaker 02

  That's a coincidence, bro.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Can I throw another coincidence out? Can I, we did not touch on, but somebody should talk about it.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Miles brought this up just so he can.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  No, I didn't.

• 45:32Mark Gagnon?

  I know, I was trying to say the black people love Spider-Man.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  I was like, wow, what are you doing, bro? Al, you got a challenge, bro.

• 45:38Mark Gagnon?

  No, Al, you forced yourself into it.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  I was trying to say, he's a black superhero.

• 45:44Speaker 00

  Miles Odysseus with the racist. People Trojan horse that motherfucker. And then he'll act surprised that it happened.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  No, the cop is his dad.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  Speaking of.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  The cop's his dad.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  The book, the cop is his dad. Okay, so he's Puerto Rican, his dad is black Puerto Rican. There are black Puerto Ricans.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Hey, I'm not gonna get into these. I'm reading off.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  The, um, okay, so the, the, the casting's in the Odyssey, right? We now understand why, first of all, correct, by the way, no, no big deal. Travis Scott started it. He's the modern day poet, so the casting makes sense. You have him as the bard. Okay, got it.

• 46:16Mark Gagnon?

  I have a problem with that.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Elliot Page, tell me if no one is operating on this level. Okay? Elliot Page's job is to be the, the soldier that's just whipped the Trojan horse. Right? That's, that's her job in the movie, that's the role, right? The, the Trojan horse is, uh, not what it seems. It presents in one way, but internally, it is something completely different.

• 46:53Mark Gagnon?

  You think he thought about that?

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Trojan horse is a trans metaphor. Absolutely.

• 46:59Mark Gagnon?

  That's kind of fire. Alright.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  Now, the question is.

• 47:03Mark Gagnon?

  I think is one of those things where we reach and find it after the fact.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  It looks like a horse on the outside, but there's a man on the inside. Trying to bust.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  It would be inverted, but technically, there were semen on the inside. Technically speaking, there were semen on the inside, it would be the inversion of what Elliot is. But the point being is like, it's not whether Chris knew it. Did Elliot put it together when she decided to do the role?

• 47:28Speaker 02

  He, bro, come on.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Sorry, Elliot put it together when he decided to do the role.

• 47:31Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking nigga did it.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  I know, bro, I'm sorry. I'm learning, bro. 42 years old, I'm doing pretty well, I'd have a 42.

• 47:38Speaker 02

  You saw Juno and it's just, it's stuck in there.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  She's so good in Juno. She was good in Juno. That was when she was she. She identified as she at that time.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  That's fair.

• 47:47Speaker 00

  Right?

• 47:47Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, I think.

• 47:49Speaker 00

  So, um, but it, if that is the case, one, does Elliot know? Does she kind of put it together? Like, of all the different roles that he could have played in the movie, right? He plays the one role that is connected to the horse that is essentially a trans metaphor.

• 48:07Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm, fire. I mean, I think.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  And the horse, this is where we get a little kind of messed up, but the horse is the thing that goes against God's law.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 48:17Speaker 00

  But again, I'm not making that, I'm not, I'm not making that, I'm not saying that at all. I'm not asserting that in any way, shape or form. I'm not asserting that in any way, shape or form. I'm just saying, what would the internet sleuths do about it? But is Elliot aware of it? Is Elliot aware of it?

• 48:32Speaker 02

  I think so. This is activism.

• 48:35Speaker 00

  But it, but is it a positive, is it a negative?

• 48:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's like a negative.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  The Trojan horse ruins Odysseus' life.

• 48:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  Is the greatest regret that he's ever had. Is the thing that keeps him from being accepted back to his family.

• 48:49Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm. And the spear, hit her in the chest, chopped off the boob, you know? Something there. Link it, find it. Link it, find it. Come on.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  Do the knowledge, do the knowledge. What did your girl think of Elliot in this movie?

• 49:09Speaker 00

  That's her type, bro.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  Don't take, don't take courtesy Elliot. Don't do it, my boy. Don't do it.

• 49:17Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, man, if I lose my shorty to Elliot.

• 49:21Mark Gagnon?

  Bit. That would be crazy. That would be crazy.

• 49:29Mark Gagnon?

  Come on. Fire.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Nah, he's jacked. You seen him boxing? He got hands.

• 49:36Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 49:36Speaker 00

  Deadass, he got hands. Deadass.

• 49:39Mark Gagnon?

  We gotta get on T. Oh, fuck that nigga.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  There's also, there's a trans metaphor in Spider-Man a little bit, too.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Like, his hormones start going-

• 49:46Mark Gagnon?

  Why you trying to be all woke with the shit?

• 49:49Speaker 02

  No. I'm mostly just spoiler. I'm, I'm, I'm building on- Yeah, I guess it maybe is a spoiler.

• 49:54Speaker 00

  What you mean?

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Spider-Man's hormones start going crazy. He go, he goes through some type of spider puberty. And starts having, like, crazy spider visions and his arachnid senses start going buck wild. And then he has to decide, am I like a spider or am I Peter Parker? And then he goes, you know what? I can be both. Bang, and then kills everyone. So it's kind of like, there's like a little non-binary kind of line with that.

• 50:19Speaker 00

  Can I be honest?

• 50:22Speaker 00

  And I know you have this in you.

• 50:25Speaker 00

  And it's my favorite and my least favorite part about you. When I hate some shit, I love having Mark around to hate on it. Cause he will hate with such specificity that he will cut the legs out of shit like- You could love something with all your heart, like, I loved Hamilton. And then he came up and he was like, oh, yeah, the fucking Red Hot Chili Peppers, the musical. The, the whole thing is give it away, give it away, give it away now. And then immediately, you, you feel like a fool for liking it, so like, that's how-

• 50:56Speaker 02

  You didn't even like it, you didn't even watch it, you don't know.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Can I just, can I just get, first of all, have I watched it? Of course I've watched it. I've listened to it.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  No, Spider-Man.

• 51:03Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 51:04Mark Gagnon?

  No, but it's the best one. And he's like, oh, it's fun.

• 51:08Speaker 00

  You are chalking it up.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  It's good, bro. I don't get movies.

• 51:11Speaker 00

  Chalking it up to nothing. And you are just cutting the leg. Anybody who watched it is an idiot. That's what you're doing.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  That's not true. That's not true.

• 51:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  That's not true.

• 51:18Speaker 00

  And you have the billions of burden.

• 51:20Mark Gagnon?

  They do that.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  I don't get cinema. I don't watch movies. I don't understand what's happening. I'm watching, I'm like-

• 51:24Mark Gagnon?

  A billion dollars. Yeah, it was alright. Like, come on, man. The people, the people have decided. Shut up.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  There's a couple-

• 51:31Mark Gagnon?

  Look at Rotten Tomatoes.

• 51:33Speaker 00

  Yo, name one, name a movie that made a billion that was bad. I don't know if that happens.

• 51:37Mark Gagnon?

  Barbie.

• 51:38Speaker 00

  That wasn't bad, apparently. Apparently Barbie was good.

• 51:40Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't think Barbie was bad. Actually, I didn't see it, so.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  I thought it was, I thought it was fun. I heard Barbie was good.

• 51:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I just liked the feet.

• 51:47Speaker 00

  I didn't watch it, but yeah. Was there feet in it?

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Oh, there's a legendary feet component. A lot of people talk about the feet in that one.

• 51:53Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Also, you can get the vision.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Alice in Wonderland, 2010 made a billion. There's some bad ones.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  I mean, can we talk, can we talk about another spoiler?

• 52:04Speaker 00

  I still stare at my wife's-

• 52:05Speaker 04

  The Minions made a billion?

• 52:07Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 52:08Speaker 02

  Well, that's romantic.

• 52:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, man.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  That is beautiful.

• 52:11Speaker 00

  She stopped putting nail polish on because apparently, like, it seeps into your body and it gets into the breast milk or something like that.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:17Speaker 00

  Honestly?

• 52:20Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm like, I'm into the flesh for something. I'm into the flesh. Don't say flesh. Is that weird to say flesh? I'm into the flesh.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  Like, skin tone, or flesh is like, it's carnal.

• 52:32Speaker 00

  Flesh.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  I don't know. Flesh feels weird to me.

• 52:34Speaker 00

  They're looking good.

• 52:35Mark Gagnon?

  So you like, like, in between the toes and shit?

• 52:38Speaker 00

  They're just the whole thing.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  The webbing?

• 52:40Speaker 00

  That big toe. Just want to grab it. Just want to grab that fucking big toe.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  Do you mention it?

• 52:47Speaker 00

  Like a little joystick.

• 52:49Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so you like the phallic shit? Yeah, that's what you like about the phallic.

• 52:53Speaker 00

  It's like ten little dicks to play with.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Do you, do you mention it throughout the day? You're like, oh, you got your toes out? Or is that, you just keep it to yourself?

• 53:04Speaker 00

  No, I don't think I keep that much to myself.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 53:07Speaker 00

  I don't think I'm capable of that.

• 53:08Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's not like an ass where it's just like, you just check it out every time it passes by?

• 53:13Speaker 00

  I mean, I don't like slap her feet.

• 53:16Speaker 00

  Like I would her ass when I walks by.

• 53:18Mark Gagnon?

  It's too far.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  It is too far. But if I could, like, if they're ever around, if she's like on the couch. Yeah, I'll definitely.

• 53:27Speaker 00

  Definitely.

• 53:31Speaker 00

  Definitely do something.

• 53:31Mark Gagnon?

  Can you take that off the screen?

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 53:34Speaker 02

  My bad, my bad.

• 53:34Speaker 00

  Oh, this is a collage of Elliot?

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, the lit, oh.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  Anyway, so is Chris Nolan so the goat that he even does something goat-esque without even trying? Is he so the goat that he does something goat-esque without even trying?

• 53:47Speaker 02

  You become a Nolan like Hotep.

• 53:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  I am a Nolan Hotep.

• 53:50Mark Gagnon?

  That is crazy, right?

• 53:51Speaker 00

  I am. I am. But no or yes?

• 53:56Speaker 02

  Probably no. But maybe.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Unrelated completely?

• 54:00Mark Gagnon?

  I think unrelated completely.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Unrelated completely.

• 54:01Mark Gagnon?

  I think unrelated completely.

• 54:03Speaker 00

  Wow. Because could have hired any actor on the planet to play that role.

• 54:07Mark Gagnon?

  Because then now he's trying to do some woke shit. I feel like he was just like, yo, let me just hire this dweeb looking dude to be the weas- like, the weakest.

• 54:17Speaker 00

  Is it woke or is it the opposite? Of woke? Is it slept as a motherfucker?

• 54:24Speaker 02

  That he's trying to point out it's a sin. I see what he's saying. I don't think so.

• 54:28Speaker 00

  I don't think so either. I don't think so either. But it's, you know, good food, food for thought. Okay, back to your little spider emotions movie.

• 54:37Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck both of you.

• 54:37Speaker 00

  Inside Out, what is it? Inside Out?

• 54:39Speaker 02

  Inside Out was better, actually. I loved Inside Out.

• 54:41Speaker 00

  So that's what the movie is? He's going through puberty and then he got to figure out how to be a spider?

• 54:45Speaker 02

  And then he's non-binary.

• 54:46Speaker 00

  And he's got to figure out, is he a spider or is he a man?

• 54:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he can be both of.

• 54:50Speaker 00

  He's, can be both of.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's like the kind of the premise.

• 54:52Mark Gagnon?

  This happens in the comics where it's like, the spider takes over. Actually, he actually turns into a spider. They don't do that in this movie.

• 55:01Speaker 00

  In the movie? Oh, so this is what they would say canon?

• 55:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 55:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it felt cartoony. That's what made it fun. It was like, there was parts that you were kind of just like, oh, I'm going to suspend belief.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  You know, this guy is-

• 55:13Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 55:13Speaker 00

  I know. You know what this is? This is a, cause I didn't know that you had this in you. This is a, cause you're a Catholic and usually Catholics, they're not entirely like this, but this is a waspy pretentiousness. I was playing a-

• 55:26Mark Gagnon?

  Have you been to Williamsburg?

• 55:27Speaker 00

  What's that game like this?

• 55:29Speaker 02

  Heads Up.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  Heads Up. We were playing Heads Up with, with, and there was this girl playing Heads Up and she's like, you know, wealthy, like, Upper East Side girl. And the thing that she had on was, it was masuka or something. It's like some Greek thing. And she, and, and somebody else had it and she was trying to do, she was like, oh, they serve it in restaurants in Tribeca.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  So she thought it was shakshuka, which they don't only serve in Tribeca, but in her mind, it's like, oh, that's like a downtown dish.

• 56:07Speaker 00

  But that's what you're doing.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Town is more fun, though, you know? I'm not a movie guy. I don't understand movies, so I'm watching and I'm like, oh, that's like-

• 56:12Speaker 00

  How can I belittle the experience for everybody else?

• 56:14Speaker 02

  No, I'm just bringing up some interesting things that I saw. I was like, oh, I don't really get how this part happened, given the universe that we're existing in.

• 56:21Mark Gagnon?

  So it's a comic book movie, like? What are you talking about? The whole shit is fictional.

• 56:28Speaker 00

  It's supposed to be heightened representations of your insecurities.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  I get it, but it doesn't go in order of what's supposed to happen.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  Which is?

• 56:35Speaker 02

  So the main character, the main villain, alright, spoilers, Jean Grey.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:39Speaker 02

  She's able to go into people's minds at a 33-foot distance. She's able to like boom into someone's head and like possess them.

• 56:45Speaker 00

  And what happened at year 33?

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Freemasonic, no, great point.

• 56:50Speaker 00

  Also-

• 56:50Speaker 02

  And the death of Jesus Christ.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:52Speaker 00

  You think that that's a coincidence?

• 56:53Speaker 02

  It's pretty good programming, so the people get on board with the Freemasonic agenda.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  I'm fully on board.

• 56:58Mark Gagnon?

  Let's go.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  But able to jump into people's brains. So at one point, the helicopter pilot get taken over by Jean Grey. And Spider-Man is on top of the helicopter. And Spider-Man wraps up the helicopter, leaves the helicopter hanging. And now there's no one within 33 feet that can go, that Jean Grey can jump into their head, so now just stuck in the helicopter. And then somehow, Jean Grey then takes over the body of MJ.

• 57:22Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, bro. Jean Grey is a level five mutant.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  Like, come on. Like, how the fuck you not gonna notice? Oh, I sound like a Catholic.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  Stop, stop. Nah, stop, stop.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  She's just now learning her power. Her potential for her power is crazy. Spider-Man goes against MJ, all of a sudden MJ is now Jean Grey. He kisses MJ, actually kissing Jean Grey.

• 57:48Mark Gagnon?

  And you didn't even peep that.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  I didn't at all.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  I thought the bad guy was a dude. I was like, oh! That's also why I love watching movies with black people, cause they go, yo, we kissed a dude. Every person in the theater was like, oh, what did you mean, you kissed a dude?

• 58:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, what?

• 58:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because you don't know who the bad guy is. It's just a person possessing everyone's brains.

• 58:08Mark Gagnon?

  No, but we all know.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  You knew it?

• 58:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  I, I know it.

• 58:13Mark Gagnon?

  We all know it's Jean.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  You just know it's a bad guy going to everyone's brains, so sometimes Spider-Man is getting talked to by like a random dude, by a woman. It's all these different people, so you don't know. My assumption, because I'm a misogynist, was that, oh, it's a guy that's the villain. So then he kisses MJ and MJ remembers him after getting her brain wiped. And MJ is like, Peter, it's you. And then he kisses her and it's very romantic and he's crying.

• 58:33Mark Gagnon?

  I teared up, I did.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  It's crying, everyone's crying. And then all of a sudden MJ goes, wow, you really miss her. You go, oh shit, it wasn't MJ at all. It wasn't MJ.

• 58:43Mark Gagnon?

  It was fire.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  It was actually a dude that he kissed.

• 58:46Mark Gagnon?

  The whole theater.

• 58:49Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 58:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, look at that.

• 58:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. But then actually, Jean Grey possessing MJ's body.

• 58:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:56Mark Gagnon?

  It's good.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  But also, Jean Grey was just doing too much, I thought. I thought it was like a bad person. Like, like, should, didn't need to be saved.

• 59:04Speaker 00

  But Jean Grey has always been the one that like had difficulty with her powers.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Exactly. That's why he don't understand.

• 59:10Speaker 00

  That's what Professor X would always work with her on.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Oh, really? See, if you don't know-

• 59:16Mark Gagnon?

  Didn't she eventually become the Phoenix?

• 59:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, I remember.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Professor X got to do more work with her because she was completely off.

• 59:21Speaker 00

  She has no amount of work that can save her for herself.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  No, we need whiplash, Professor X. I need Professor X like-

• 59:27Mark Gagnon?

  But this is her just now coming into herself. She hasn't met Professor X yet.

• 59:31Speaker 00

  How old is she in the movie?

• 59:32Mark Gagnon?

  Like, 17 or something like that.

• 59:34Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 59:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, so she hasn't met Professor X yet.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:36Mark Gagnon?

  Right at the end, she's driving upstate about to head to-

• 59:40Speaker 00

  To the mutant school.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Yes. Fire. Damn, this shit is gas.

• 59:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on, man. This shit is fire.

• 59:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:46Speaker 00

  She gonna meet Elliot Page. Who was also in the movie.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  Who was in?

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Who was in the mutant school movie. That is a accurate joke.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  She was absolutely in the movie. 100%, okay?

• 1:00:05Mark Gagnon?

  I heard, I'm not gonna say who, somebody was watching Spider-Man and while they were watching Spider-Man, they Googled, how old is Sadie Sink while they were watching the movie?

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  Weird shit, bro.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  She's 19 years old, 25 days, and-

• 1:00:28Speaker 00

  Now, how old is she? How old is she? She's adorable. She's adorable.

• 1:00:34Mark Gagnon?

  I know, but like, that's, that's weird.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  Twenty-four.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  Twenty-four years old.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  She's adorable.

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  It's tough because you see her in the Stranger Things show. Like, once you see a child actor.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's kind of glued in there.

• 1:00:52Speaker 00

  They gotta, they gotta be out of the child movies before you don't see them as the child actor.

• 1:00:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. I think it was still a little bit with Zendaya.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  Tom Holland is still like a little kid.

• 1:01:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 00

  Nah, Zendaya jumped out with Euphoria. Euphoria was so crazy.

• 1:01:05Mark Gagnon?

  They were high schoolers.

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  I know, but it was so crazy that it was like, Euphoria was like the end of adolescence to me. I know they were in high school, but like, these kids were living these lives that had exited adolescence. You know, but like, yeah, I don't know. Zendaya is more like ethereal to me. Does that make sense? Like, there's like, um, I don't know, she's like, uh,

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  like an angel or some shit. That sounds crazy. But you know what I mean, like?

• 1:01:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Sorry, your wife, with all due respect, is crazy.

• 1:01:39Speaker 00

  Not even like that.

• 1:01:40Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 1:01:41Speaker 00

  Not even like that.

• 1:01:42Mark Gagnon?

  Pass or fail, you calling other bitches angels? That's wild.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, because angels, angels you don't do nothing with. You know, they're just there. You're trying to pass or fail somebody.

• 1:01:51Mark Gagnon?

  Son, you ain't fucking an angel?

• 1:01:53Speaker 00

  Nah, you can't do that.

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  Angels aren't sexual, bro. They're not sexual beings. Yeah.

• 1:01:57Mark Gagnon?

  You don't think angels is getting hyped down? Come on, I don't think so.

• 1:02:03Speaker 00

  You think somebody's grabbing the wings from the back?

• 1:02:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, how the fuck you get the Holy Spirit in you?

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  No, Al. Nobody's grabbing a wing from the back.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, also, they're scary. Look, angels got like a bunch of eyes and shit. If you go by like the biblical explanations.

• 1:02:17Mark Gagnon?

  White people, angels. White people, angels.

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  We're not doing all that.

• 1:02:19Mark Gagnon?

  If you go by the biblical, just the glowy shit with the wings, bro.

• 1:02:23Speaker 00

  We're not doing all that.

• 1:02:23Mark Gagnon?

  Just bad bitches with wings.

• 1:02:25Speaker 00

  That's it. It's just a wing.

• 1:02:26Mark Gagnon?

  Victoria's Secret.

• 1:02:27Speaker 00

  Those are my angels.

• 1:02:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:29Speaker 00

  You don't even gotta bring it up, because we don't want to see it.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, no, no. I want Alex to really deliberate.

• 1:02:34Mark Gagnon?

  That's why you trouble, because.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  You're trying, you're trying to smash this?

• 1:02:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yup.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  That's what an angel looks like?

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  That's an angel, bro.

• 1:02:44Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, they're not like people?

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  No. This is a biblically accurate angel.

• 1:02:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, your book is whack, bro. No, no offense, with all due respect.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  What do you mean? This shit is sick.

• 1:02:57Mark Gagnon?

  But your demons are like monsters, and then your angels are just fucking eyeballs?

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  With wings.

• 1:03:03Mark Gagnon?

  This shit is like Scientology. Don't they got an eight eyeball monster in Scientology?

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  Oh, Xena? I don't know. I don't really know what Xena looks like.

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• 1:06:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  While we're talking about women that are doing extraordinary things.

• 1:06:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  Has the WNBA stuff entered your guys' algorithm?

• 1:06:20Mark Gagnon?

  Absolutely. A little bit. A little bit of it.

• 1:06:23Speaker 00

  Are you surprised that we're still having this discussion?

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  It's a little tired. It's gone on for a while.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  I can't even believe that we're still deliberating on it.

• 1:06:36Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, see, now, this is what, I feel like you with the LeBron shit. I'm like, no, they saw what the beef last year was doing and how much drama and eyeballs are brought to the game. So now they're just like, oh, let's just keep the drama shit going, because people pay attention when we have some fake drama.

• 1:06:53Speaker 00

  I understand that there's like a marketing aspect to it, but like, then they're the people that are like reacting seriously. There was like a coach that was upset about it. One coach wore like a shirt. I don't think they're in on the marketing meetings going, how do we build up the game? I think they're virtue signaling on something that I thought we all moved past. Like, I thought, I thought everybody got to the point where it's like, hey, man, trans people, we gotta respect them, you know, they're in an unfortunate situation. Obviously, they're gonna have a genetic advantage over women if they're gonna compete against them, so we have to do something to carve out a space for women to be competitive with one another. I thought that was just kind of like the conclusion after the Olympic shit.

• 1:07:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we still don't know the coach's name, but now we know what this coach looks like.

• 1:07:38Mark Gagnon?

  So I'm saying, I think she knows what she was doing.

• 1:07:41Speaker 00

  No question the marketing is in, but you think she's in on the marketing?

• 1:07:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, let's get more people here for this.

• 1:07:46Speaker 00

  Let's run it up.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  I think everyone's getting like their little points off, but, you know?

• 1:07:49Speaker 00

  Bro, it was so unfair what they did to Caitlin Clark.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  What, asking her at the press conference?

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  They asked her at the press conference, she's like, you know, that's up to the league and the, and the people in the league to figure out those rules, that's not to us. Like, she literally did the thing that every like conservative pundit was asking all the black athletes to do around Black Lives Matter. Remember, they were like, just shut up and dribble? She literally shuts up a dribble and then dribbles, and then all the pundits are like, you coward, how dare you not say? So it was bullshit on the other end. It's like, do you want athletes to do nothing but play ball? Or do you want them to be like involved in politics or whatever this kind of culture war is?

• 1:08:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. But I would imagine the league is very LGBTQ, like extremely that, so you gotta ride with them.

• 1:08:35Speaker 00

  I think that's the tricky thing, right? Which is the league is like, has found so much support, I imagine, from that community. And the community's coming out. So you don't want to ostracize anybody from the community. But it's interesting, because like every time I'll talk to a trans person about this, especially privately. Publicly is tricky, because they're under certain scrutiny if they don't say certain things. But privately, anytime I ask a trans person, like, I'm always asking, like, yo, what's, what's, what do you think about the sports shit? It's the same answer every single time, which is,

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  competing in professional sports is the least of our concerns right now. Everyone says the same thing, like, I'm just trying to get an apartment. I'm just trying to not have some dude kill me if he finds out that I got a dick.

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  This whole convo is bringing a lot of extra attention.

• 1:09:16Speaker 00

  They're like, yo, there's way bigger fish to fry. Like, once we fry those fish, then we can figure it out. But like, from the ones I've spoken to, they're always like, this is actually a distraction that makes all the other real shit that we gotta go through harder.

• 1:09:32Speaker 00

  So they're not even tripping on it. And it's just like some virtue signaling like fat chick in the stands, who like wants to let the community know that she's supportive of this, despite not really understanding it.

• 1:09:46Speaker 00

  What are we doing it for?

• 1:09:47Mark Gagnon?

  But I mean.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  Outside of the marketing, I agree, you want to market.

• 1:09:50Mark Gagnon?

  Like, even, that's what they want. They want us arguing about this shit. Like, the media's putting mad gas on this shit.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  Mad gas.

• 1:09:56Mark Gagnon?

  I saw like some Fox News host, like, yo, why the fuck we even talking about this? He was mad that they were talking about that.

• 1:10:02Speaker 00

  You know what they can't talk about?

• 1:10:03Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 1:10:04Speaker 00

  They can't talk about what they did.

• 1:10:05Mark Gagnon?

  The war going on.

• 1:10:06Speaker 00

  Nah, they can't talk about what they did to Aaron Rodgers over that vaccine.

• 1:10:09Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I didn't see this.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  Wait, what do you mean?

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  Oh, this was fantastic. So Aaron Rodgers refused to take the vaccine.

• 1:10:15Mark Gagnon?

  Retired?

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  Recorded when he was playing.

• 1:10:18Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:10:19Speaker 00

  And ESPN was running stories non-stop. Everybody was shitting on him non-stop. Everybody was trashin' people non-stop. And there isn't a single, shout out to Stephen A. Smith, though. He apologized. He was like, yo, I said some stuff, and it turns out that I was wrong. But like, ESPN was running every single day, another fucking, and then he goes on Pat McAfee's show and then says this. I'm gonna plead the fifth.

• 1:10:43Speaker 05

  Okay. Like that absolute coward, Tony Fauci. Absolute coward. Eric's back, baby. Are you kidding me?

• 1:10:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, 111 times.

• 1:10:55Speaker 05

  You got a pardon and you're in front and you pleaded over 100 times?

• 1:10:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:10:59Speaker 05

  At the White House? What are you scared of, Tony? I thought you were the science.

• 1:11:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:03Speaker 05

  I thought you were, I am science and to get up there and you can't answer a question?

• 1:11:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:11:07Speaker 05

  What are we doing? And how much time did the network spend on that? How much time did they spend on my responses every week? On my vaccination status? On Taylor and Travis's wedding? Yeah! Did they do even a minute? Did they do even a minute on Tony Fauci?

• 1:11:24Speaker 06

  Nah, I don't think I heard anything.

• 1:11:25Speaker 05

  Nah, but they didn't.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  They've been covering that quite a bit, bro.

• 1:11:27Speaker 05

  And there was another scandal this offseason too, involving a voter for MVP, for Coach of the Year. How much time did your network spend? Where's your camera? Did your network spend on that?

• 1:11:37Speaker 06

  Our network?

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  I wish I, I wish I could. How much time did you spend? I wish I could.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Taking shots at everyone. That your network is going off.

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  Shout out to ESPN, though, to run it. Like, this feels like wrestling a little bit.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  But I mean, it was live, right?

• 1:11:54Speaker 00

  Sure, but like, you could pull it down eventually, you could do whatever. There's tons of things you could do around it, but like, let it go. This is, this is news. But also, great point. Like, you call this guy selfish, a piece of shit, he doesn't know what he's doing, he doesn't know anything about science, he's whatever. And then it turns out that he was maybe not, let's say, not wrong to be skeptical. And then not a peep about it.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  That's gotta be a little frustrating, right?

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:12:20Speaker 00

  And I remember they were, remember they were calling us racist for making the joke about where it came from? Like, we got kicked out of a venue in Toronto for a joke about calling it the Wuhanic plague.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  And they were like, these are racist jokes. And what's so interesting about it is like, once the accusation is made, that exists. And then the science is, I guess, corrected or changed or whatever. But that never goes away.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:52Speaker 00

  So it's like, that is there in perpetuity, or people forget, or these things, whatever, it doesn't matter. But like, there's no like correction, there's no people going, hey, listen, I really thought it was respectful what Stephen A. Smith is. He apologized, and I thought that was honorable.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:05Speaker 00

  Like, think about the amount of people that said shit. They said shit about Rogan. Like, the amount of people who have been like virtue signaling off Rogan. You're out here saying, you know, this guy knows nothing about science and he's just having conversations with people. And how dare he push these narratives and push these? Like, there are people whose like whole identity about Rogan is based on, or whole perspective of Rogan is based on his conversations about COVID. Like, saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's having these dangerous conversations, he's pushing this dangerous stuff. Now it looks like it wasn't that dangerous what he was pushing.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:39Speaker 00

  And no correction on that.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  Isn't that a little wild?

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  It happens all the time. I mean, like, even like Iraq war time, there was a bunch of people that spoke out and they got their whole careers like finished. Cause they were like, yeah, I think this Iraq war thing is fucked up. And then their fans turned on them, like the president, like it was insane. And then years later, we're like, hey, the Iraq war thing didn't really work out. And everyone's like, eh, eh, sorry.

• 1:14:00Speaker 00

  It's, to me, it's so. So all the damage is done.

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not about being right, it's about being right at the right time.

• 1:14:05Speaker 00

  It's like, you never want to be right first. You want to be right like seventh.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:10Speaker 00

  You know, like Hollywood's not in the business of making new movies. They're in the business of being second.

• 1:14:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  Who can be second? I don't want to waste all the money trying to develop some new shit. I want to be the second person to do the shit that works.

• 1:14:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  They're doing that right now with the horror movies.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 1:14:25Speaker 00

  Right? Like Obsession killed it, or Backrooms or whatever killed it. And now every studio is going, okay, how do we get the next horror movie?

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:30Speaker 00

  They don't want to be the one taking that first chance.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause they're gonna lose their job if that shit, if it flops.

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:36Speaker 02

  But yeah, I get the animosity. It is funny, cause like, every person that got burned by this is like, just like so happy. Which is partially why I think the whole Fauci thing is happening.

• 1:14:45Speaker 00

  Tell, tell to me.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Cause they're just like, first off, they're like, we got his diary, which.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  How you get his diary?

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  Humiliating. I mean, it's not really his diary, but it's the fact they're calling it a diary.

• 1:14:53Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 1:14:54Mark Gagnon?

  Um, I think he was taking notes because he was planning to put out a book eventually. And so he was writing notes on your fucking work computer like an idiot.

• 1:15:01Speaker 00

  Oh, so they had access to his whole work?

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, they could see his work computer, cause, and it was like internal memos that he was writing, like to himself and other people about, like his personal thoughts, what was going on.

• 1:15:10Speaker 00

  And is that allowed to have access? Like, if we were to steal him in it or whatever, we were to make the argument in support of him, would you go, that's his personal information and you shouldn't be sharing that?

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  Well, technically, it's a work computer.

• 1:15:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, technically, it's a work computer, everything on that computer.

• 1:15:22Speaker 00

  You can't give old people access to technology, bro. Like, all these people in the Epstein files thought emails were safe.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  There's no way they can get my password.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  I mean, Fauci's like, dude, I was an incognito and everything, and they stole all my shit. Ugh. And then he just goes out there and he pleads the fifth. But it seems like in the emails, there's like little references to like, yeah, well, we don't really think it's the wet market. Or, but like, that's just the thing that like amplified it, but that's not really where it originated. And so now people are taking that to be like, oh, he lied about COVID, he knew about the whole thing the whole time, dah dah dah.

• 1:15:52Speaker 00

  Now, question.

• 1:15:55Speaker 00

  Is there a version of this where certain powers that be go to him? And they say, you are going to push out this messaging. We're rolling the dice, yes, it might not be that bad, but there's a version where it is horrible. So we're gonna roll the dice on being safety. Let's play steel man here. And you're gonna be the face of this, and you're gonna go out there and you're gonna say this. And if it doesn't go well, we promise you, we will pardon you.

• 1:16:22Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, I can see a world where that's happening.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would jot that down as a diary, probably.

• 1:16:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:27Speaker 00

  Like, wouldn't you go like, I, I, like, if you're him, wouldn't you be like, I'm fine with that deal? But I need that, I need that slip somewhere? So that I can be vindicated.

• 1:16:39Mark Gagnon?

  But also, it's so funny when you pick and choose, cause it's depending on who covers it.

• 1:16:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:43Mark Gagnon?

  Like, from the left, they'll point out things in the diary where it's just like, alright, you can see how uncertain he is. And he's just trying to do the best thing for what he thinks at the time is. Like, so it's like, he's trying to do, but then if you're on the right, they're just like, oh, you see? He said this thing, but then two weeks later, he said this thing that contradicts this thing. And now it's like, you can tell that means he was lying or whatever the case is. But like, this was a global pandemic and people were just trying to do the right thing in the moment.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  I have a lot of.

• 1:17:14Mark Gagnon?

  Anybody who feels 100% about, has 100% feeling about that situation is retarded.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  But then the people that lose their job because of the right thing, they're like, bro.

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, if you lost your YouTube channel, you lost whatever, like.

• 1:17:25Mark Gagnon?

  No, you can feel upset, but still, at the same time, it's like mad people are dying.

• 1:17:30Speaker 00

  No, no, no, of course. And I think that, like, honestly, there's a part of me that looks at it like, look, it's, it's, people are fucking dying, you're terrified, and you're in control, or you're in charge, and these bodies are gonna be on you. You're gonna want to lean towards the safer thing.

• 1:17:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:44Speaker 00

  But at a certain point in time, you do need to be like, hey, that's what we did. We weren't 100% certain, we leaned towards the safer thing. And I think that's what people are looking for. Now, there was a lot of damage that was caused by this, right? Like, a lot of, none of us had kids in school during that time. But like, if you talk to your friends that had like kids in school and they're like, had to take away like two, three years of fucking school, it's like crazy what that does.

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, Gen Z's autistic now.

• 1:18:10Speaker 00

  Who?

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Gen Z. They were taken out of school too early and now they're all like fucking weird.

• 1:18:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I don't know. But like, there was damage, obviously, like economically, like you're pumping all this money into the economy. Like, there are these things that have happened and there was real damage. Uh, versus everybody in the world dying, which is what they thought potentially could have. Oh, 2% to 3% or whatever they thought, which is a huge number, so I get, I get it. But, um, I do just think that some people just need to feel like, hey, I think they need to be validated, like you're arguing with your girl. You know what I mean? It's like, they were like, hey, listen, I, this was my point, you made me feel horrible about it, and now it turns out I was right. I need you, the expert, to be like, hey, I was right. And I need you to say that with the same volume that you said that I was stupid or wrong.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  Do you think that that would soften it or no?

• 1:18:53Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I don't think so.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  I think they just want, I think they just want to prove he's a liar.

• 1:18:56Mark Gagnon?

  It's like right now, it's like right now, imagine if that theater or arena in Toronto apologized to you, like, you wouldn't care now, cause you're not trying to perform there at the moment. Like, it wouldn't do anything right now if they're like, yo, my bad, we were wrong.

• 1:19:10Speaker 00

  No, because I don't hold anything for it. It was a weird time and people were making the best decisions they could. Like, I personally don't have it because I didn't really get that bad. There are people that got it way worse.

• 1:19:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:18Speaker 00

  Like, Jelly Roll's PR agency fires him after doing that song we did in Florida.

• 1:19:24Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:19:25Speaker 00

  Open her up.

• 1:19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Then his fucking shit skyrocketed.

• 1:19:28Speaker 00

  Well, that's probably, that's fine. But again, it's just like, it is a little thing. Like, hey, listen, if that venue reached out, we're like, hey, listen, we were working off the information we had at the time, and now we know it wasn't the case. And like, you know, hindsight's 2020. If they did that, I'd be like, wow, I'm not expecting any of this at all. But like, that's really honorable for you to do that. That's why I thought with Stephen A. Smith, it was cool.

• 1:19:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, just holding your hand up, being like, hey, I got it wrong, my bad.

• 1:19:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. It goes a long way. I mean, but I don't, I think, I think maybe for Aaron, it maybe would mean something. But like, in the court of public opinion, I don't know if it would. I think people just want to see their feelings validated by seeing him get skewered. By seeing Fauci get, you know, raked over the coals.

• 1:20:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  And they go, yeah, see, I'm justified by everything that I did, by not social distancing, dah dah dah dah.

• 1:20:11Speaker 00

  What is the left saying about him taking the fifth throughout the process?

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  Well, it seems like they're now flipping it on Trump.

• 1:20:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:19Speaker 00

  Keep going.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  Because people, like, especially on the left, are like, okay, if Fauci's taking the fifth and you're saying that it's an implication of his guilt, then anytime Trump takes the fifth, that's an implication of his guilt. And Trump's taking the fifth however many times over the past, you know, 10.

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  But is Trump pardoned? I thought the whole deal was, once you're pardoned, you're supposed to speak with openness.

• 1:20:39Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, he has the whole deal right now where it's like, he can't be charged for his taxes.

• 1:20:44Speaker 00

  So essentially, it's like a pardon.

• 1:20:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:46Speaker 00

  Therefore, you might as well answer it.

• 1:20:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:48Speaker 02

  And they're like, if you're not saying anything, you're taking the fifth, then you're guilty. Is like how they're framing it, if that's the, the conditions we're working on.

• 1:20:55Speaker 00

  And is that a one to one?

• 1:20:56Speaker 02

  Hmm, it just seems like more political mudslinging that, I don't.

• 1:21:00Mark Gagnon?

  And also, he's only pardoned up until that time. So if he says something that is a lie, or maybe they can catch him and he lies now, he can then be charged after the fact.

• 1:21:13Speaker 00

  Oh, so there is a reason to do it.

• 1:21:15Mark Gagnon?

  So he's protecting himself, yeah, absolutely. Not gonna put me on the stand and then I jam myself up and then you bring a case on me?

• 1:21:22Speaker 00

  It is unfortunate because.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  I'll plead the fifth too.

• 1:21:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like, nobody's really trying to hear anybody out. Nobody's trying to hear each other at all.

• 1:21:31Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:21:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe, maybe I just had like the hubris that there was versions. And I do think that there are people that do do that, but the populace, the media machine around it.

• 1:21:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:41Speaker 00

  There is no intention to reach some sort of understanding.

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  Some congressman's like, if I go super hard on Fauci and I make him look stupid.

• 1:21:47Speaker 00

  Boom.

• 1:21:47Speaker 02

  I'm gonna get reelected.

• 1:21:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  And then I'm gonna keep on insider trading. Fire. If I go hard on Fauci, I can make $100 million in the next 10 years. Yeah, dude, I get it.

• 1:21:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's, you guys get. A little disillusioned about that or did you always see the game in that way?

• 1:22:04Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, as I've gotten older, I'm realizing how it works now and it's like, it sucks. I'm starting to feel like, do I even keep voting? Like, is it, yeah, I'm still getting there, but now then you have like a guy like a Zo come along and I'm like, all right. He's actually trying or it seems like he's trying. Yeah, whether you love him or hate him, it seems like he's trying. So it's like, these are the type of people where it's like, all right, I still get energized by somebody that looks like they're trying to do. Yeah, what's best?

• 1:22:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, to me, it's less about the figure and it's more about like the populace. Like, are we capable of going, hey?

• 1:22:39Speaker 00

  I understand why you feel this way. Even if I don't agree, I understand why you feel that way, or I understand why you're concerned about this. And it feels like it's just so divided, or it's almost impossible to kind of bridge that gap. And even the like reasonable individuals that I feel like are kind of like in the center, they're maligned by both sides. So it's like, it is a.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm checked out. Yeah, I'm like, and I don't even hold the like, I'm like, I'm like, I don't trust any of these politicians.

• 1:23:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:10Speaker 02

  Which I know is like, people say is like a center right wing take, but I'm just like, I just don't really trust them. Like Zo seems like he's doing a good job, seems like a nice guy, seems cool. But like the financial interest and the material kind of like condition under everything. I just think forces people to act in ways that I don't like.

• 1:23:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  So that calculation of like, I go hard on Fauci, I get reelected, I make a bunch of money. I'm like, yeah, 99% of people probably do the same shit.

• 1:23:34Speaker 00

  It's an interesting thing with, with Zo, it's like not being in power, being able to make decisions is probably the best time for any politician.

• 1:23:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:48Speaker 00

  Like ascension to power, but not being in position of. Because once you have to start making decisions, you have to deal with the repercussions of decisions.

• 1:23:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, getting power is way more fun than keeping it.

• 1:23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, because when you get in power, you get to just call out all the bullshit and you really get to like meet people where they are emotionally. You know what I mean? Like love or hate Trump, like he's done almost none of the things he said he was gonna do, but he was tapping into things that like Americans did care about. You know, look, fucking Epstein, yeah, I think that most Americans left or right would like to know what the fuck is going on there. No more foreign wars. I think most Americans would like that to kind of stop. Not ballooning the fucking budget, you know, like I think these are things that like, okay, these are relatable. And I think Zo was tapping in on exactly similar things, like cost of living is like ridiculously high. How can we bring that down groceries, all this stuff? And then once you're in power, you have to implement, like this grocery thing is so interesting.

• 1:24:39Speaker 00

  Because like the grocery store and I, the second it came through, I was like, oh, fuck, I already know what the next headline is gonna be. But when they ask like, how do you get the groceries and like avoid people just buying them and then selling them? And they're like, well, there'll be, there'll be an ID that's required to buy the groceries at the discounted grocery store because they're for New Yorkers. And I knew immediately, it's like, okay, they're gonna go, you need an ID to buy lettuce, but you don't need an ID to vote. Which is like a fair criticism.

• 1:25:06Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think it's fair.

• 1:25:07Speaker 00

  Well, what is the, what would be the argument against it?

• 1:25:11Mark Gagnon?

  In order to register to vote, you have to show your ID.

• 1:25:15Speaker 00

  I don't think that's.

• 1:25:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, yeah, you definitely do.

• 1:25:18Speaker 00

  No, because I think you can like register in certain places, register people to vote just by like writing their names down.

• 1:25:22Mark Gagnon?

  No, you look this up, fact check me, but I'm almost 100% certain you need, because most of the time you register when you're getting your driver's license or when you're at the DMV or something like that. So it's like to get on the register, you have to be a citizen, you have to have some type, some form of identification or they have to identify you. And then you're registered in a place and so you can only vote at that particular location. So to have voter fraud, you have to, you have to know the person's name, first and last name, know where they're able to vote and know that they're not coming in there that day in order to vote.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  And match a signature.

• 1:26:00Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 1:26:01Speaker 02

  Is that true that you need to? It says, current voter ID requirements in New York registering to vote, a completed voter registration form, a valid form of identification, including driver's license, non-driver's ID number, or the last four digits of a social. So if you do not have any of these forms of registration or identification, you can still register to vote by completing a mail in paper registration form. You need to show acceptable proof of identity and residency at your polling place on election day.

• 1:26:24Mark Gagnon?

  Boom. So if you didn't show the ID when you registered to vote, then you have to bring it in order to vote.

• 1:26:29Speaker 00

  Right. So you believe in voter ID then?

• 1:26:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I, you don't need to show an ID when you go to vote.

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  But why not just show it when you go to vote if you already have it when you got registered?

• 1:26:40Speaker 00

  Because some people don't have ID.

• 1:26:42Speaker 02

  So then how did they? But that's how they got registered.

• 1:26:45Speaker 00

  Well, let's slow this down.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  They could use their social.

• 1:26:47Speaker 00

  Let's slow, let's slow this down so, so we don't feel like you have to be on the defense. Because this is like, this is more like, it seems to me what you're saying is like having some proof of identification to be part of the voting process is important.

• 1:27:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:27:00Speaker 00

  And that's why it already exists in New York.

• 1:27:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm actually, I'm for showing your ID when you go to vote. I'm just saying that I know that.

• 1:27:09Speaker 00

  You fucking conservative.

• 1:27:11Mark Gagnon?

  I know, I know.

• 1:27:12Speaker 00

  You fucking right wing piece of shit.

• 1:27:15Mark Gagnon?

  Needed because the cases of voter fraud are so small and it like practically like never happens. But it is such an easy thing to say, it's like, of course you should have to show an ID when you go to vote. But why would you have to show an ID for a problem that doesn't exist?

• 1:27:33Speaker 00

  Well, again, listen, I can't speak to whether.

• 1:27:35Mark Gagnon?

  Well, that's my thing. It's like, we just like the buzzwords, like we like those types of things. But yes, showing ID for a person who can possibly take advantage of this system where you can just buy a bunch of groceries for the cheap and resell it. Yeah, to prevent that from happening, that makes more sense in my head.

• 1:27:54Speaker 00

  Because there could be some sort of like fraud going on there.

• 1:27:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that would be the easiest come up. Oh, let's just go buy all these 30% off groceries and then sell it for a little bit.

• 1:28:03Speaker 00

  And they're hilarious to think that New Yorkers won't outsmart the system. We outsmart every system. There's not a system that exists that we won't outsmart.

• 1:28:10Mark Gagnon?

  But the thing is.

• 1:28:11Speaker 02

  There will be a TikTok of some guy going in there, walking out of everything.

• 1:28:16Mark Gagnon?

  But we have pantries all around the city already that do this exact thing. They get, they get groceries at a discounted rate.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  This is a, this is a political move. It's a performative move.

• 1:28:27Mark Gagnon?

  But that's what I'm saying, but people are just upset at the move that he's doing when it exists already. So why aren't you upset at the fact that we have pantries all around the city that's doing the exact same things? He just wants to expand it.

• 1:28:37Speaker 00

  It's, well, I think the, the reason that they might be upset is.

• 1:28:40Speaker 02

  Cause he's a socialist.

• 1:28:42Speaker 00

  Well, no, no, I think the reason is because he's gaining political momentum.

• 1:28:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:28:46Speaker 00

  And this is a thing that is working and I think this is resonating with people. I mean, look, I mean, the way I would do it is instead of starting a new grocery store, I would just, all the grocery stores that already exist in these neighborhoods. I would just give them a buyback on the groceries that they already purchased. So I would make those grocery stores more profitable. So instead of giving the money to this new grocery store, I'd be like, yo, bodegas, whatever it is, you can buy these items at a 30% discounted rate. You sell them at this price and we're gonna make the delta. You got, you guys still make your money.

• 1:29:18Mark Gagnon?

  So that's, that's actually a pretty good idea, but a lot of them, I think why they're doing this is because when inflation happened and when the cost of stuff start to go up, they rose their prices and then they haven't brought them back down. So it's like they're taking advantage of the fact that everything's up. And so they're like, okay, now if you want to take advantage of the people, now they're gonna have another option. And so you're either going to have to adjust your prices if you want to stay, you know, whatever, what's the word?

• 1:29:50Speaker 00

  Competitive.

• 1:29:51Mark Gagnon?

  Competitive.

• 1:29:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:53Mark Gagnon?

  Or you get priced up. Like, I think it's a great thing. It's going to force all the grocery stores to be like, all right, we were milking it for a little bit, let's like.

• 1:30:02Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not sure the profit margins on grocery stores. I, I, I was told that like Costco sells groceries at a 0% markup and they make money on the other things there.

• 1:30:12Speaker 02

  Make the memberships or whatever.

• 1:30:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, and just the other items that you might buy there that aren't groceries. So it's like, they're already selling it at, I can't imagine grocery stores are operating on some like insane margin. Like it's such a tricky business. Food goes bad. Like it's tough, dude.

• 1:30:25Mark Gagnon?

  Not insane, but a milk shouldn't be fucking $8.

• 1:30:29Speaker 00

  I want it to be less for everybody. I just don't know, I don't know the numbers. I don't know the economics of it. But again, like this is one of those things, just about the voter ID thing where it's like, okay, now you're implementing actual laws. And whether or not you agree with it or not, the opposition party can utilize these things to be like, oh, so now you agree with ID, but you don't agree with ID over there. And the more these things will be implemented, the more the opposition party gets to rally against it.

• 1:30:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 00

  So it's really kind of like whoever's in power, the, the party that's not in power gets to make you look like a hypocrite and stupid and you don't know what you're doing. And then that flips.

• 1:31:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:05Speaker 00

  And then we just end up complaining for our entire lives and then die.

• 1:31:11Speaker 00

  Nothing really changes that much.

• 1:31:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:13Speaker 02

  The grocery store expensive. Your nanny tried to steal.

• 1:31:15Speaker 00

  Tried to steal?

• 1:31:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. She tried to take him. There was a hero that stopped her.

• 1:31:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:20Speaker 02

  I said, you gotta, you gotta pay first.

• 1:31:22Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but just shout out to Food Bank for NYC because they're doing great stuff.

• 1:31:25Speaker 00

  No, they are.

• 1:31:26Mark Gagnon?

  They have shelters all around.

• 1:31:27Speaker 02

  Cashiers, are they, are they, uh, pro equality?

• 1:31:30Mark Gagnon?

  Pro everything. They got, they got all, all your people.

• 1:31:33Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:31:34Mark Gagnon?

  The blue hairs all out.

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  Oh, hell.

• 1:31:35Speaker 03

  Those are those two people?

• 1:31:37Speaker 00

  I mean.

• 1:31:38Speaker 03

  Is Mark a blue hair?

• 1:31:39Mark Gagnon?

  If you walk around his neighborhood.

• 1:31:41Speaker 00

  I feel like he presents as a blue hair, but he's like.

• 1:31:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:31:44Mark Gagnon?

  But he's one of the, he's one of the rich ones that live amongst them.

• 1:31:46Speaker 02

  I'm a Trojan horse. I'm a Trojan horse.

• 1:31:48Speaker 00

  Yes, you are. You're an Elliot. You're an Elliot.

• 1:31:51Speaker 02

  I'm a live on the outside, dude.

• 1:31:53Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:31:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:54Speaker 00

  Um, guys, we gotta do some Patreon.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  Yes. Can I bring up one thing before we leave?

• 1:31:58Speaker 00

  Please, please, yeah.

• 1:31:58Speaker 02

  This was something that, that Tanya brought up that I thought was an interesting, uh, an interesting discussion.

• 1:32:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, this should be great.

• 1:32:03Speaker 02

  This went viral on Twitter. It's got like 10 million views. People discussing this exact, this exact dilemma. This is a girl that posted. She said, "Single girlfriend in NYC's text exchange with a Hinge match. She's upset." Here's the text exchange. This is her. "Good morning. What time slash where is dinner tomorrow? Have you been to La Mercerie?" "I have not. Looks gorgeous. Could you send me an Uber for dinner tomorrow?" "No, I won't. On the way home though, happy to pick a restaurant next to you." So the question is, should she be upset that her first Hinge date didn't get her an Uber to the restaurant?

• 1:32:39Speaker 00

  I'll be honest with you. That is insane.

• 1:32:44Speaker 02

  Can we talk about this on Patreon? Cause I don't wanna talk.

• 1:32:47Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no. That is right there.

• 1:32:53Speaker 00

  I need to know who the guy is.

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  Why does that make a difference?

• 1:32:58Speaker 00

  If

• 1:33:00Speaker 00

  you're a trust fund kid and it's not your money anyway.

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 1:33:06Speaker 00

  If you never had to work for it, then she could spend it too.

• 1:33:11Mark Gagnon?

  So my God, what, what world do you live in?

• 1:33:14Speaker 02

  Take of all, there's like two options to pick and you pick the third worst.

• 1:33:18Speaker 00

  If you're a trust fund kid, if you're a trust fund kid, it's not your money anyway. Just get her the fucking Uber. What do you care? You don't know the value of a dollar. These motherfuckers are cheap as fuck too. But that's fucked up. It ain't even their money to be cheap with.

• 1:33:29Speaker 02

  This is on WhatsApp. Definitely not a trust fund kid. First off.

• 1:33:32Speaker 00

  All right. So let's, let's work in this, let's work in this scenario where they're both people who have jobs in New York.

• 1:33:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:38Speaker 00

  They're going to Mercerie, which is a fantastic restaurant.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. What is the, like, what's the price point of that place?

• 1:33:43Speaker 00

  Uh, it's, it's a nice, it's nice. It's not like crazy, crazy expensive, but it's really nice. Amazing chocolate chip cookie.

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I've had that chocolate.

• 1:33:52Speaker 00

  Yes, you have. Incredible chocolate chip cookie, but a fantastic restaurant. Go check it out. Um, but, uh.

• 1:33:58Speaker 02

  Michelin guide.

• 1:33:59Speaker 00

  It's on guide. Anyway, but what I would say is, is that, um, that is insane entitlement. Can you get my Uber to go to the?

• 1:34:08Mark Gagnon?

  Cholty, I swear to God.

• 1:34:11Speaker 00

  Tell me, tell me. I'm off on this?

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  Wait, what side are you on?

• 1:34:15Speaker 00

  That's sex trafficking, son. Depending on where that girl's come from, if that girl lives in Hoboken and you're getting Uber for her to cross state lines to come in to have dinner and sex, that's sex trafficking. You could be in jail like Diddy.

• 1:34:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  You wanna send men to jail, Alex?

• 1:34:33Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:34:33Mark Gagnon?

  That's why we, this gotta be Patreon.

• 1:34:35Speaker 00

  It's gotta be Patreon.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  That is crazy.

• 1:34:37Speaker 00

  Cause how are we like, let me, let me.

• 1:34:40Mark Gagnon?

  We trying to fucking not.

• 1:34:41Speaker 00

  Let me say this. Can I say this though? Can I say this though? Let me offer the Uber.

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:34:47Speaker 00

  Don't go, can you get me an Uber?

• 1:34:50Mark Gagnon?

  How far is she coming from? That's more important.

• 1:34:52Speaker 00

  Go down, go down.

• 1:34:52Mark Gagnon?

  That's more important.

• 1:34:53Speaker 00

  Go down.

• 1:34:54Speaker 02

  Crazy first date spot too.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  If it's like. Go up, go up. Sorry. Go up. I just need, can I just see the whole text, motherfucker?

• 1:35:00Speaker 02

  Like you're trying to get other intel.

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  All right. Ready?

• 1:35:03Speaker 02

  This is the whole thing. This is all we got.

• 1:35:05Speaker 00

  All right. Ready? So look, here's the thing.

• 1:35:07Mark Gagnon?

  Son, a $20 Uber B?

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  No, no, this is my issue with that. You ready?

• 1:35:12Mark Gagnon?

  That's the app.

• 1:35:13Speaker 00

  Can I, can I, can I?

• 1:35:14Mark Gagnon?

  Uber app.

• 1:35:14Speaker 00

  Can I just ask?

• 1:35:15Mark Gagnon?

  You wanna advertise?

• 1:35:18Mark Gagnon?

  How do you walk in there?

• 1:35:20Speaker 00

  Can I just ask this question? Can I just ask this one?

• 1:35:22Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:35:24Speaker 00

  Do you guys not have an issue with her trying to get him to confirm the Uber a day in advance?

• 1:35:34Speaker 02

  That is a good point.

• 1:35:35Speaker 00

  The, what I see, ready? This is what I see. If he's not willing to get me the Uber, I'm going on another date that I got lined up. I'm trying to see if this guy is real and he's gonna be my little sugar daddy taking care of me. Cause I got this other guy on the line that I don't like as much, but I need to see if this guy's into me like that.

• 1:35:59Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I didn't peep it like that. I peeped it like, hey, where are we going to dinner? He mentioned some spot that's far for her. So now you gonna pick a spot that's far for me. If you wanna pick a spot that's far for me, at least get the Uber.

• 1:36:13Speaker 02

  But that's where she has to go, oh, that's a little far. Is there anything in my neighborhood?

• 1:36:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. You say, is there anything in my neighborhood?

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  And then she, and then he goes, oh, let me just get you an Uber. Don't even worry about it.

• 1:36:21Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:36:22Mark Gagnon?

  But that's what he basically did. He's like, oh, okay. So this must be far. Happy to pick a restaurant next to you.

• 1:36:27Speaker 02

  It's the wrong order.

• 1:36:28Mark Gagnon?

  It's the wrong order.

• 1:36:29Speaker 02

  Wrong order.

• 1:36:29Speaker 00

  Now, he played this perfectly. Cause what he played.

• 1:36:32Mark Gagnon?

  He called her a broke bitch. That's what he did.

• 1:36:34Speaker 00

  He did, but, but she was like, are you gonna daddy me? Are you gonna take care of me?

• 1:36:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:36:40Speaker 00

  And he

• 1:36:43Speaker 00

  played it like, I'm just into you for you. He didn't even go, oh, you just want me to pay. He went, I just like you for who you are. I'd gladly come to a place closer to you.

• 1:36:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't even care about the restaurant. I don't care about it.

• 1:36:54Speaker 00

  The restaurant doesn't matter to me. Yes, my.

• 1:36:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Trying to be too nice. He called her a six. That's what he did. Cause if that bitch was a 10, yes, I got your Uber. Let's stop playing this game.

• 1:37:05Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:37:06Mark Gagnon?

  That is a girl that's just on the cusp. I don't care if I hit tonight.

• 1:37:10Speaker 00

  Can I tell you?

• 1:37:11Mark Gagnon?

  You're not Uber worthy.

• 1:37:12Speaker 00

  Can I tell you when you get the Uber? Can I tell you when you get the Uber? When you request it? When you're coming over and the dude is dropping dick off.

• 1:37:23Speaker 00

  That's when you could go, hey, when you go, hey, at 11:30, hey, I'm just getting home. What are you up to? And they're like, I'm just at home right now. What are you doing? And you're like, yo, come over. And they go, would you get me an Uber? Absolutely.

• 1:37:38Speaker 02

  That's dangerous. I'm gonna put you on a train if.

• 1:37:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But also if it's a bad bitch, do you really want to go on there?

• 1:37:48Speaker 00

  You thought my nepo baby idea was crazy? I feel like it's not their money anyway. It's communal money.

• 1:37:54Mark Gagnon?

  No, that's.

• 1:37:54Speaker 00

  That's communal money.

• 1:37:55Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  It's not, they don't understand the value of a dollar. Just send daddy's money over to her.

• 1:38:00Speaker 02

  But also.

• 1:38:01Mark Gagnon?

  But that's my dad. That's not your dad. You don't even know my dad.

• 1:38:03Speaker 00

  Daddy. He don't even care about you. Her dad does as much as your dad.

• 1:38:07Mark Gagnon?

  The girl's a six. We gotta see the picture of the girl.

• 1:38:10Speaker 02

  They met on Hinge, which I think changes a lot.

• 1:38:12Speaker 00

  Tell me why? Cause I've never done, I've never done Hinge.

• 1:38:14Speaker 02

  If they met on Raya and or like the sugar dating baby sites.

• 1:38:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:19Speaker 02

  It's like, okay, there's some sort of like.

• 1:38:20Mark Gagnon?

  What's the name of those sites that you're on?

• 1:38:22Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:38:22Mark Gagnon?

  What's the name of those?

• 1:38:23Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't know.

• 1:38:24Speaker 00

  Wait, but go on, go on, go on.

• 1:38:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. You meet on Hinge and like, it is crazy. He's taking on a first date there. The expectation does change depending on what that first date is. Drinks after work, like, no, you're not getting Uber. But like, that's a pretty nice spot, but they met on Hinge. He's, he's playing weird mixed signals also.

• 1:38:42Speaker 00

  Why is he playing mixed signals again?

• 1:38:44Speaker 02

  Because they met on Hinge, which I would arguably, like, would argue is like the normal dating site.

• 1:38:50Mark Gagnon?

  Ugly people say.

• 1:38:51Speaker 00

  No. Oh, you're saying that, are you making a statement about her aesthetics?

• 1:38:55Speaker 02

  No, not her.

• 1:38:56Mark Gagnon?

  Is it Raya better bitches?

• 1:38:58Speaker 02

  No, it's just, it's a, you have to, I think it's a, a higher tax bracket. Like, I think Raya is richer.

• 1:39:04Mark Gagnon?

  So she's a broke.

• 1:39:05Speaker 00

  Be a nice.

• 1:39:05Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:39:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:08Mark Gagnon?

  It's hotter chicks than Raya.

• 1:39:09Speaker 00

  Okay, so.

• 1:39:10Speaker 02

  I can't get on that bitch. So I don't know.

• 1:39:13Speaker 02

  Paul's been trying to get on there.

• 1:39:16Speaker 00

  Higher chicks. Welcome to life.

• 1:39:17Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 1:39:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, so again, again, asking for the Uber a day in advance to me is a signal. It's, are you gonna take care of me? Do you really like me? Are you into me? And she's in a situation. She's like, I think she's basically going, I'm not willing to meet you for dinner. She's hitting him up, reminding him about, are they gonna have a date tomorrow? If he hit her up and is like, hey, I'd love to go take you out tomorrow. I wanna go to this restaurant. And then she was like, okay, yeah, I'm totally down. Even asking, are you gonna send me the Uber for a first date at a restaurant? Is insanity.

• 1:39:53Speaker 02

  The implication is he's already paying for dinner.

• 1:39:55Speaker 00

  Oh, you already know that's happening.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  There's a $250 bill that he's gonna be stuck with regardless. And she's trying to add on another 25 bucks.

• 1:40:03Mark Gagnon?

  Six guys.

• 1:40:04Speaker 00

  Then why is she, why is she saying, are you gonna get me my Uber?

• 1:40:07Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 1:40:08Speaker 00

  That's not what sixes do.

• 1:40:10Mark Gagnon?

  What 10?

• 1:40:11Speaker 00

  Six is happy to be there.

• 1:40:12Mark Gagnon?

  What 10 has to go out their way to confirm the date with the dude?

• 1:40:16Speaker 00

  Can I ask you a question? No 10, no 10, no, no, you're not wrong, but no 10 goes, will you get me my Uber?

• 1:40:23Mark Gagnon?

  They expect it.

• 1:40:24Speaker 00

  No. They don't even expect it. Every 10 got $15, bro. Every 10 got $25.

• 1:40:31Mark Gagnon?

  You have it hung out. See, son, I'm saying these, these girls now, it's expected.

• 1:40:37Speaker 00

  It's transactional like that.

• 1:40:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:39Speaker 00

  I, I, I would be shocked if a girl couldn't get herself to a place, but if she's a 10, there's no way she thinks she's paying for the meal. It's like, not even in her brain.

• 1:40:48Mark Gagnon?

  And then they're talking to their friends. It's like, oh, this broke. He couldn't get my Uber. Couldn't pay for this. Yeah, that's, it's expected off rip for a baddie.

• 1:40:56Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:40:56Mark Gagnon?

  Baddies leave out the house with nothing in their pocket besides their phone.

• 1:41:00Speaker 00

  This girl just talked to her friend and her friend said that the girl that she, the guy she was dating, sent a car for her for dinner. And she's like, I'm higher than her.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:08Speaker 00

  I gotta make sure this guy's gonna send a car for me.

• 1:41:10Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:41:11Speaker 00

  But the fact that he hit her with the, I'll go to a place closer to you, that is next level. I love that.

• 1:41:16Mark Gagnon?

  Fire, right?

• 1:41:17Speaker 00

  Brilliant.

• 1:41:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:18Speaker 00

  That's brilliant.

• 1:41:19Mark Gagnon?

  Or a six.

• 1:41:20Speaker 00

  Do you think she's a four to six? You're not taking six to Mercerie, bro. I'm sorry.

• 1:41:24Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, maybe seven. He wanna impress her. She's probably never been there. She's a six.

• 1:41:33Mark Gagnon?

  Guys, I'm telling you, put it together.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  But where's the entitlement though? Why is there so much entitlement?

• 1:41:37Speaker 00

  Can I, can I point out something here?

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:41Speaker 00

  He asked her, has she ever been to La Mercerie?

• 1:41:44Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:41:46Speaker 00

  So she probably, she probably is.

• 1:41:49Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Put them back.

• 1:41:52Speaker 00

  We need to see that. We need to see the, we need to see what they look like.

• 1:41:55Speaker 02

  There's no other data.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  We need to see what they look like.

• 1:41:57Speaker 02

  There's no other data.

• 1:41:57Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, man.

• 1:41:58Speaker 02

  He just, he needs to send her a city bike credit.

• 1:42:00Speaker 00

  Guys, we, we need to do.

• 1:42:01Mark Gagnon?

  But this is all jokes.

• 1:42:02Speaker 00

  We're going to Patreon right now. Patreon.com slash flag rip. We'll see you guys over there. Peace.

• 1:42:06Mark Gagnon?

  All jokes.

• 1:42:08Speaker 03

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid and risked 350,000 Virginians healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.