Tom Segura on Surviving Joey Diaz Megadose, Discovering Andrew Tate & “Exposing” Garth Brooks Secret | #701

YERRR – Tom Segura pulled up and it’s chaos: - Bert's weight loss, marathon delusion & megadoses - DMT, addictions, edibles riskiness, & Andrew Tate's infancy All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Tom Segura is here! 00:40 Natty weight loss + 5k Run 2:43 Andrew can do a marathon now! 4:59 Addicted to DMT 11:37 Joey Diaz, HIGH + W33d Experiences 25:46 P0rn0 sessions 27:24 Akaash sold out Radio City 29:53 Old school edibles + ODing at 19 36:08 Traumitizing Moms, Helicopters + Birds 44:49 Mortality, Nascar + F1 57:12 Flagrant health results 1:03:51 Thrill Seeking, Daniel Ricciardo + Competitiveness 1:17:01 D3 Football, College + America's Most Wanted 1:26:56 Garth Brooks - ALLEGEDLY 1:36:14 Deep into internet + Sam's Tailor 1:49:55 Knicks in 5 or 6 or 7 1:53:47 Butter up the refs + Garnett & Pierce 1:59:07 Discovering Andrew Tate + Weird ones 2:06:15 Touring, Door deals & The Biz 2:13:14 Taking on any YTs + Fights 2:18:17 Bad Thoughts, 1 take + Acting This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Follow us on Patreon for bonus episodes - Patreon.com/Flagrant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  What's up everybody, welcome to Flagrant. Today we are joined, this is our first time.

• 0:04Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 0:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is wild. Thompson girls on the pod today. Tom is a wildly successful standup comedian, podcaster, Italian bakery owner now.

• 0:16Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 0:17Speaker 00

  Okay, which we'll get to this origin story. Um, he first exposed Garth Brooks as a serial killer. I think it's very important that we know that there's no sarcasm right there. That's an allegedly, so we don't get sued, so you don't either.

• 0:29Speaker 01

  Very allegedly.

• 0:30Speaker 00

  He literally created the manosphere by probing up Andrew Tate.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  That's confirmed.

• 0:34Speaker 00

  You know, that a hundred percent. He has a massive podcasting studio business. There are all these things that he's managing and he lost weight in the worst time in history because nobody believes that it was an honest thing.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  I know.

• 0:48Speaker 00

  And you did it honestly.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  And not only that, my buddy Bert went on tour and on tour in arenas, he would be like, Tom Jabber Ozempic and I'm like.

• 0:59Speaker 00

  Oh, he's spreading.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, no.

• 1:01Speaker 00

  Good job.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  Here's the thing, he was like, I never would, I would never do that. I was like, yeah, but you're fat. Like, so. And then this year he lost like 50 pounds and with Manjaro, with the, with the jab.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  With the shot.

• 1:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  And people think it's because he was running two and a half miles.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  It's crazy he's alive, dude.

• 1:23Speaker 00

  There's a, but first of all, I love the 5K, the 5K stuff that you guys are doing, but uh, it's funny, my buddy said, um, my buddy Tim, that I'll, I'll leave his last name out. He goes, uh, he goes, my, I have a buddy of mine who just, you know, he just wants to get out of the house. That's his thing. So he started running 10Ks and he tells his wife, he's like, yeah, you know, I'm into these 10Ks. That's my thing. I gotta go to Sao Paulo and run a 10K.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  You're going to Brazil to run five miles? Yeah, yeah. It's crazy how much of a, like, I, I prepare every year to do the 5K, which is three miles, right? Like I have to like, no, and then I meet people and they're like, start running. But I'm saying like, I don't normally run. So when I, when it comes to running, I'm like, I hate this, but I do it.

• 2:09Speaker 00

  Can't you just knock that out, three miles?

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Not, not out of, I mean.

• 2:14Speaker 00

  It's like running to Midtown.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  If it's like a, if you want to actually like not walk at all for me, no, I have, I have to like actually do some prep, but I meet people who are like, huh? And they go, they go, that's like a warm up. I go, not to me, dude.

• 2:31Speaker 00

  I thought the whole point is anyone can do it.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  I think a mile, yes. For me, once I get into like two and three, I can't just do it. I don't know.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  I can't, I can't.

• 2:44Mark Gagnon?

  How much you running?

• 2:45Speaker 00

  Nah, but like I could do that. Like I honestly believe that I could do a marathon.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  No, I mean, walking?

• 2:51Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  In what timeframe?

• 2:53Speaker 00

  I think on a slow, I think on a slow jog.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Downhill?

• 2:56Speaker 00

  I could get, yeah, not going up.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  With a bike?

• 2:59Speaker 00

  No, no wheels, no wheels, no wheels. I could do it honest, but I think I could do it.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  How fast do you think you could do the three miles?

• 3:04Mark Gagnon?

  Fifteen minute mile?

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Like what?

• 3:06Speaker 00

  I think I could do the three miles. I could, I could average in eight minute mile.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Really? Right now? That means you have really good cardio then.

• 3:13Speaker 00

  I think I could do an eight minute mile.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Right now? But eight minute is not, is, I mean, it's not elite, but it's not casual, dude. Like that's a pretty, that's a pretty good pace.

• 3:20Speaker 00

  When I was like younger, I could do like a long amount at an average in the, in the sevens.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:26Speaker 00

  I ran a five minute mile once.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:29Speaker 00

  Not five zero, but within five minutes.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  But that's why the three mile thing's laughable to you. If you had a five minute mile.

• 3:38Speaker 00

  Why would I lie about that? If I'm gonna lie, I would say that I ran a marathon in like two hours.

• 3:43Mark Gagnon?

  You ran a five minute mile?

• 3:45Speaker 00

  I ran like five fifty-nine?

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Five fifty-eight.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 3:49Speaker 01

  Okay, I was wondering what's that distinction?

• 3:52Speaker 00

  I was probably like twenty-five years old. I was like, that's about seventeen years ago. No, no, no, I was in my thirties. I was in my thirties.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  That's pretty fast, man.

• 3:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, got runner legs, man, got runner legs. Look at these things as I stretch them out.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Were you a sprinter too?

• 4:05Speaker 00

  Um, okay. Not, not like incredible top speed, but like I could, I could, I could go. There you go. Yeah.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  You caught up to that homeless guy pretty fast.

• 4:13Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, there was a homeless guy that called me in San Francisco. We'll bleep that.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  And then, uh, yeah, we had a, you know, you can't call me that in San Francisco.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  No, I also think too, when I.

• 4:25Mark Gagnon?

  People might believe it.

• 4:26Speaker 00

  Exactly. It's like anywhere else I would fucking go.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  You catch up to him?

• 4:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I caught up to him.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  Uphill?

• 4:30Speaker 00

  Uphill.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  What'd you say?

• 4:32Speaker 00

  Fucking walked away. The guy's like, oh, homeless. I got my senses to me. And also uphill is hard, so by the time you get up there, you're like, I'm winded.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's nothing like going on a run though and seeing like, like you're running and then either like an old person or like an older, fatter woman goes past you and you're like, nah dude. Oh, yeah. And you just have to like. Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, hocus, man.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Dial in, you're like, I can't let this happen.

• 4:59Speaker 00

  Just get rinsed. Okay, listen, Tom, there's been a really important development. The reason I started about, you know, all of your successes is because I wanted to let people know that despite all your successes, you have a crippling addiction to DMT.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  I actually had to put that thing away. So I, I'd heard about it for years.

• 5:16Speaker 00

  Did you know about this?

• 5:17Speaker 01

  I did not.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  This is not even fake.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  This is, I heard about it for years and then one of my buddies was like, like last year was like, you want to try it? And I go, yeah, I want to try it.

• 5:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  So there's two ways you can do this, at least that I know of. One is you get like the real thing, sort of like you can get weed or you can get like a vape pen.

• 5:33Speaker 00

  Got it, yeah.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  With DMT, there's, both are also an option. You can get like the real crystallized, whatever it is.

• 5:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Or a vape pen. So the first time I do it, I do the real thing with him. And the experience that I have is like auditory and some visuals and it is like a few minutes thing that then you're, it's over.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  I go, yeah, that was cool. Like I don't have like some profound revelation, but I'm like, that was, that was a cool experience. Somebody else, no, sorry, same guy goes, hey, do you want, I have a DMT vape pen. Do you want to, do you want to do that? And I go, yeah. So he gives me one. I'm on the road and I do it and I have the same kind of thing where it's like, there's colors and there's some things. And then he tells me, he's like, you know, you really gotta do a pull. Like you really gotta pull it if you want to like go there. And I'm like, I mean, I am. I get you. That's a, that was vape pen, you do a hard.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  This is one of the most terrifying things that ever happened to me is I had had two or three times with it where I was having that, I'll just call it like a mild experience.

• 6:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Where I go, there's colors, there's things, but it's like, it's over. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty cool.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  I'm in some hotel on the road and I do, I'm alone in my room and I just, I go like one, two, and like the third pool is like, like as deep as I can go. My eyes are closed and I'm like, I'm cold. I feel cold. So I'm gonna change, I'm gonna get up and change the temperature. And my eyes were closed. I open my eyes and the whole room is sketch drawn, right? Like it's white. Black and white. Black and white. I stick my hand out, this black and white, and I'm like, no. And I get up and I'm looking, everything's, and I see a mirror and I go, I get so scared because I'm. Are you sketch in the mirror? Sketch in the mirror. Everything's, everything's black and white. Dude, I go up

• 7:38Speaker 01

  to the thermostat and I reach out to it. I'm like, there's no way. And I just, I jump under the sheets, get in the fetal position and I'm in a level 10 panic. Absolute panic. I cannot believe that I've broken through to like what people are talking about. Yeah. I don't know. It can't last that long. Maybe 10 to 15 minutes. Yeah. Once you get over like the, I don't want to open my eyes because I don't want to see the sketch thing. So you start actually thinking about other things and then slowly open your eyes and you're like, holy shit. It's starting to fade off. And I was like, that was the wildest experience I've ever had. How long are we talking?

• 8:22Speaker 01

  I think this whole thing lasts about 15 minutes. Okay. Wow. But the, the sketch thing is not imagined. It's really what I'm seeing. I'm like, that is terrifying. And then I do it again the next day. Same hotel room alone? Yeah. And I'm like, I want to see if that happens again. And it does. The same sketch? The same thing, the same thing. It's just that everything in the room is sketched. What is in your subconscious? I don't know. Some people see God, some people see heaven. And then I start to go like with this, and I'm like, all right, I wait, I wait a few days. I do it again. I go, I wonder if I do it with not as deep a pool, what will happen? And it does become two different things. Like a mild experience or the.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Well, I started doing and doing it. And then I tell the guy, I was like, yeah, I'm like, did it like four times last week. He's like, you really shouldn't do that. I go, what? And he goes, yeah, you can get like, I think it's like serotonin poisoning of basically of your, or you're releasing too much of it.

• 9:21Speaker 00

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  So I have to like, um, take the pen apart and I put one piece here and one piece at home so that I don't have it with me. It's like nuclear cuts? And I have to like, break it with me.

• 9:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  But I got, I at least got to the point where you could, um, have an experience where you actually feel like you're, you have a, you know, your mind works where you shelf things and then sometimes you.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  Come to light.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so I was able to have some experience like that, but it became, I wouldn't say addictive, but it like.

• 9:57Speaker 00

  How regularly?

• 9:59Speaker 01

  I mean, I haven't done it in months and months and months.

• 10:01Speaker 00

  But when you were on it?

• 10:03Speaker 01

  I was probably doing it like three or four times a week.

• 10:06Speaker 00

  Jesus.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Did you have shows that night? The next day. And you were cool. I was like, I hope I can remember it tomorrow. Yeah, yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  Hold on, so, all right, so. And you're relegated to your only DMT experience is seeing sketch.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Well, that and then having, once you get over the visual aspect of it.

• 10:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  You feel you can have more profound thoughts. Okay. Did you have any interesting revelations? You know, I thought about like, there was just like people you like, thought about like my dad who died and things like, you start to think about like, things like that, relationships with people and having, um, like, almost like truth serum to yourself about it.

• 10:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  That felt more profound.

• 10:49Speaker 00

  Kind of honest moments about what that was.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  And did you like talk to any of those people?

• 10:54Speaker 01

  No, I don't think, no, I didn't talk to them. It's just, it was really more about like.

• 10:59Speaker 00

  I'm saying afterwards.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it was, for me, it was more like facing those fears or realities.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  Right.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  In yourself.

• 11:07Speaker 00

  Right.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  And just for you.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Just for me.

• 11:10Speaker 00

  And you didn't want to like go apologize to somebody?

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck them.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  It's just restorative for you and no connection to those people at all?

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Well, I don't think it's so much that is as, as much as you go like, this is something that I haven't really processed and I'm processing this thing now.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  And, and it took this moment. That was definitely enhanced.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  To have that revelation for myself.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  The, the experience on DMT versus getting dosed by Joey Diaz. And the real version, not what you.

• 11:45Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  There, cause there's the stand up bit.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  And then there's what actually happened.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  He's such a fucking animal, dude.

• 11:53Speaker 00

  Can you tell us the actual, cause people know the, they know the stand up bit.

• 11:58Speaker 01

  This fucking guy, so they, everybody was making fun of me because I like a mild edible.

• 12:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  And, you know, you meet people who partake a lot are always like.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  Five milligrams, that.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, so like, that's all, what are you, a bitch? You're like, but I like this, you know, it's like somebody being like, you don't. Why don't you eat your food?

• 12:22Speaker 00

  He runs five cats.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  Hotter, because I don't want it.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  I don't want to burn my mouth. They're like, what's wrong with you? Like, I don't know, it's what I like. So I was telling everybody I like 10 milligrams.

• 12:33Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  It's like 10 Milli Tom, they call it 10 Milli Tom. So I'm in Miami and I, I have a show and I see that Joey's also in Miami. I go, you're in Miami? I go, I have a show. I want to come see you. He's like, well, come over. I have a late show. Come see me here. So I go over to see him and place is packed. My sister comes, she's like, I want to go, I want to see Joey. And I'm like, yeah. Come hang out. We were hanging out backstage in his green room and he's like, uh, he's like, hey, I know you 10 Milli Tom, I got you some 10 Millies. I go, really? He's like, yeah. And he has a jar. And he pours them in his hand. He goes, here you go. I go, cause I know, I know the Joey stories.

• 13:17Speaker 00

  Why would he even have a 10 Milli? Knowing what you know about Joey.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Exactly. And I'm like, I know he doses people. So I go, nah. And he's, he's about to go on stage. So he has like five of these in his hand and he goes,

• 13:33Speaker 01

  and he eats them. And I'm like.

• 13:35Speaker 00

  Well, they can't be that much if he had five.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  You gotta perform.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  I go, all right, I'll take one. So I take one and literally as I go down, he goes, oh.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  I go, what? He goes, nothing. I go.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  I go, come on, man.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  So now I'm in a, because he's not telling me anything. Oh, that's even worse. Yeah, so I'm like, what is it? He goes, it's 10, and I told you, I told you it's 10. I go, alright. So I go out there and I'm with my sister and she's like, what's wrong? I go, I don't think I just ate 10. I think I'm gonna be fucked here in a minute. And she's like, really? I go, yeah, there's, there's no way. Well, he comes out and he does a show and he is murdering and on point and doing all his thing. And about 45 minutes in, I'm like, this isn't 10, right? This is not 10. And so as it's, people are leaving, we're waiting to sit to talk to him more. And I, and then it starts to really hit me that I'm fucked.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  Like this, I'm comatose and I'm like, yo dude. And I'm like, what did I take? He's like, 10. He keeps saying, I'm like, this isn't 10, man. And it starts, I don't even realize this till later. Later on, I keep processing that he had five. And that with five, you can do a show? Like how insane that is to me. Cause I used to do, on the road, I would go on the road with Rogan back in the day. Yeah. And he would always be like, hit this joint. I'm like, I don't wanna hit a joint and get on stage. He's like, I don't want to. He's like, do it bitch.

• 15:17Speaker 03

  Your eyes mine?

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Alright. One time. Your pressure, your 30 year old is really funny.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Also, you sound easy to peer pressure. Someone's like, do it, or you're a bitch. I'm like, okay.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  You got yourself addicted to DMT.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  I think we gotta hear these stories from Joey and Rogan too, where they're like, Tom was banging me.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  No, I definitely did not.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  I remember in Vancouver, I was with Joe and I, I did, we did like the Vogue Theater. Yeah, yeah. And at one point I'm on stage, high as, high as hell, and I hate it. And I'm like, every time I hear something, I'm like, turning my head. And I get off and I was like, that was awful. I was like, that was awful. He's like, what are you talking about? I go, the people were like, he goes, those were applause breaks. You were fucking killing. I was like, I didn't like that.

• 16:04Speaker 03

  It was raining in there.

• 16:06Speaker 01

  We went to Columbus and I fucking bombed. Bad. Bad. Like worst bomb? One of the five worst bombs. How long? He was, it was one he would bring, it would bring like Ari, Diaz, like a bunch of us. So it was probably not that long. It felt like six years. It felt like the longest set of my life. But it was also, that's the club that Stroop owned.

• 16:32Speaker 00

  Called this funny bone.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  Yes. And so for people that don't know, this guy owns a piece of a bunch of these clubs, but he was also the person that would book you into all of them. He booked like 20 of them.

• 16:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  So like, they're like, you're gonna showcase for Stroop. I ate fucking shit in front of him. Like so bad. And later on, I was like, cause when you're high, you don't, I was like, how bad was it? He was like, it was really, really bad. And he was like, I was like, what the fuck is this guy doing here? One of the worst sets I've seen somebody do. And I was like, oh, thank you for the honesty. Yeah. He didn't, he didn't like say it at all. He was like, it was terrible, man. I really wondered what was wrong with you.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Did you power through or are you onstage like trying to save it, like referencing it?

• 17:14Speaker 01

  I was, here's the worst part is that I'm trying to save it, trying to get going. And I get off, and I remember I had seen, I think Ari bomb right before me.

• 17:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  And I was like, how was that? He was like, it was great. And I was like, that didn't look great. You don't like your.

• 17:29Speaker 00

  Oh, so now when you're bombing, you're like, I guess I'm doing great.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  Like Ari said, this was good. This doesn't feel good. I mean, I didn't think what he did was good either. So I was like, this is a disaster. But I'm at that thing with Joey. And then I'm like, bro, I'm, I can't even keep it together. We have to catch a flight. And I have a guy with me who has to, he carries me, like my arm over his shoulder. And he's like, walking me to the plane like this. And I'm like, bro, Joey's on the flight with us. And he's like, you know what you need right now? I don't want fucking anything from you, dude. He's like, you needed a little Xanax. He's like, it evens you out.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  I take it, I take it.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Do you have nobility to say no, dude?

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Without a doubt. You can tell, you can walk me into some shit for sure. But I'm also in such a, I'm comatose, but my paranoia and my anxiety is at like a 12. So I think like Xanax, I'm like, alright, like maybe this will dissipate how fucking anxious I feel. It does nothing. It does absolutely nothing. I sort of fall asleep and I wake up out of nowhere and I start talking about love on this plane. Okay, I'm like, that's what we're all here to do.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Who are you sitting next to at this point? This guy that works with me, Sean, and he is, he's like, he's like, yeah buddy, yeah. And I'm like, right? And he's trying to talk, I go, shut the, you don't understand? It's like Bill Murray in Scrooge where he's like, you gotta feel it.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  I'm like giving this speech about love. And every time I look at Joey, he just goes, ha, ha, ha. He just starts laughing. Which makes it worse, because I think I'm kind of getting somewhere. And he thinks that you're acting insane. Yeah, and he's loving that he did this to me. So I get home and like Christina's like, as I walk in the door, she goes, are you high? And I'm like, fuck, yeah. She goes, what happened? I tell her what happened. I go to bed, I wake up, I'm high. Like I'm fully high. The rest of that day, I'm high. I go to bed, high. And then the next day, I feel like it's weaning off as I wake up on the second, now almost third day.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  So I finally, I call him and I'm calling him to also be like, hey man, like that wasn't cool, right? Like you feel like I gotta say something to you, like that was not fucking cool. So I call him, I go, dude. How much did I take? For real? He's like, you took a 200.

• 20:20Speaker 00

  200?

• 20:21Speaker 01

  That was a 200 milligram?

• 20:22Speaker 00

  So he took a?

• 20:23Speaker 01

  He took a thousand. And he did a show.

• 20:26Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  And?

• 20:29Speaker 00

  Does he just have a slow metabolism or something? Like it hits him at the end?

• 20:33Speaker 01

  It's funny because years ago, he gave me like a 20, like a 25. This is, we were, we were also traveling to do a show together. And I was like, that was horrific. Like, that was horrific. And I asked him, I was like, so do you? Like, do you not feel that that doesn't affect you the same? He goes, what are you talking about? I almost had three panic attacks on that flight. And I go, so you also feel that? He's like, yeah. He goes, I like going there, I like seeing the devil, you know?

• 21:03Speaker 01

  So he's not, like, I thought he's just not-

• 21:05Speaker 00

  He's chasing the anxiety.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  He wants it.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  He feels that.

• 21:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  And I go, bro.

• 21:10Speaker 00

  A life of crime will get you used to that.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. To him, it's like invigorating. So it's not that he doesn't feel it. He feels it.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  He like misses the ca- that's kind of interesting, imagine.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  I miss chaos. That's exactly right.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  And at the end, I go, hey, man, I go, so you gave me 200? I go, Bo, that was one of the worst 48 hours I've had.

• 21:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  And he goes, eh. I go, so like, kind of like, what do you have to say? He goes, you needed it. I go, what? He goes, you needed a reset, and I gave you one. And I go, why did I need a reset?

• 21:39Speaker 00

  I was doing great.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  He was like, nah, it's good for you. Now, you start over. I go, this is just fucking-

• 21:45Speaker 00

  This is just like criminal talk.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  You need to learn a lesson.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you needed a lesson.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  I go, what are you fucking talking?

• 21:52Speaker 00

  This has nothing to do with anything. Being high for like multiple days, though, like, I remember in college, and I'm gonna date myself huge here, because back in the day, to have an edible, you had to bake it.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  Like, you couldn't just buy edibles. Like, you had to like make butter out of weed.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:09Speaker 00

  And then you would put it-

• 22:10Speaker 01

  I used to make the brownies.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, so then you'd make brownies, right? And I didn't even know that. Like, I thought you just cooked the weed with the brownies and then consumed it. It's like, there was this whole thing where you're like-

• 22:18Speaker 01

  Like oregano, like you sprinkle it?

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Son, I had no clue what it was, and I didn't even smoke weed really that much. I remember we were in college, and then we made the weed butter, and we really like squeezed the juice, and then we put it in, and we mixed the brownies, and I don't know if like the tray was lopsided or something like that, but I remember having like a piece, and barely any. And I was high for three days.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  And the first one, I got so high that I was about three seconds behind myself. So like something would happen, I'd be aware that it happened, but then it would register a few seconds afterwards. And I was like watching a FIFA, I was watching buddies play FIFA and like they would score a goal. And I would see them get up and then I would see the goal scored and then I would realize what happened. And I'm in my friend's room and I go, oh, fuck, I gotta throw up. And then I go, that was three seconds ago. And I ran to the bathroom and I just projectile vomited ramen noodles into the bath, like just made it.

• 23:23Speaker 00

  And the entire floor of the bathroom is just ramen noodles. Couldn't eat fucking ramen for like years. It was just like baked into my subconscious.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  I think my worst drug experience had been weed.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  What about the molly?

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Well, that was after. Was that worse?

• 23:36Speaker 00

  You had a rough one on molly.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  But that was after. During was the best. It was the, it was the after part.

• 23:41Speaker 00

  I thought during you were stressed.

• 23:42Speaker 03

  No, during was fine.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Was after because of like the come down, like the?

• 23:45Speaker 03

  From the molly. Yeah. Yeah. I got like a week where I was, uh, I feel like I was in a dream. Yeah. I would just like walk around and be like, oh, I'm not here right now. We had to go, we went to Austin. We did shows with the mothership. And I'm on stage watching myself do comedy.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  I think that's that serotonin.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Depersonalization, derealization is what they call it. DPDR. And I was just like tweaking out.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  Mark's so analytical though, is so adorable. Like he was feeling all these good feelings.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  I always do.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  And maybe it's because he's so Catholic too. He's like, why do I feel good? This is not allowed. And he's having these feelings and he's like, in real time going, I'm aware that this is just the chemicals in my brain that are making me feel this. And we're just sitting there like, just feel it, bro.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  I had a journal. I would journal every like minute. So like, okay, I've taken a bigger dose to like 1205 and like I would jot it down.

• 24:34Speaker 00

  The whole time?

• 24:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. Journaling. I still have the notes and I would like, like log how I felt. And I would go up to him and be like, hey dude, I know I'm on drugs, but I do love you.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  That's the best part, right?

• 24:45Speaker 03

  That's the best part. Yeah. But weed though, no. I would smoke weed and then start thinking about like planets and I would start being like, oh, we're just monkeys. And then we're walking around, we're all monkeys, and I had to go home to my wife and be like, hey, can you take care of me? And then she's like brushing my hair and like plucking stuff out of my hair. And I'm like, oh, we are monkeys.

• 25:01Speaker 00

  We are monkeys.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  I mean, other than overdosing, the worst stuff I've had was, the worst experience I've had have been with weed.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  Dude, weed is the worst.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  The worst.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  It's the wor- when it's bad. Like, I remember one time, I had another one of those like multiple day highs. I was visiting a friend who was going to USC, and I got so high off edibles, like, the floor was lava.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  And I spent like a day in a dorm room.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 00

  Just like on a couch.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Cause you were doing it.

• 25:33Speaker 00

  Cause I didn't wanna touch the gra- and I was like, I know this is stupid.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  But why risk it?

• 25:37Speaker 00

  But why risk it? We can't play those games. Those are dangerous fucking games.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  You would feel so embarrassed if your leg got molten off by lava.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Exactly. It's not worth it.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  It'd be so humiliating.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  Old school edibles too, like you're talking about?

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Bro, I'm sorry.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  When I...

• 25:49Speaker 00

  This guy, I had, the guy that I went to visit, his roommate had downloaded all the porn from the internet, and I'm not being hyperbolic.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  All of it.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  This guy Neil, I won't say his last name, he fucking loved porn.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  And he had files and fi- and this was at a point in time where like, there wasn't that much porn, like, the internet was new, like, and he had hard drives and hard drives. And I was trying to look up something on his computer, right? I was trying, and I got on his mouse and I clicked the mouse and it was like not, it was a PC. So I clicked the mouse, remember it had those two things?

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  And I clicked it with my pointer finger, and all of a sudden like, that little box opened up.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  A right click.

• 26:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I was like, yo Neil, I think your mouse is fucked up. The right click keeps popping. This guy switched the mouse so he could jerk off with his right hand and he made the mouse lefty.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  The dedication!

• 26:46Speaker 01

  That's such a commitment.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  The dedication is unbelievable.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 26:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, to plan for a stroke such as great. That's supposed to be something like overtakes you like a demon, you know?

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Remember like old school, uh, CD cases?

• 26:58Speaker 03

  Yes, of course, yeah, yeah.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  I knew a guy who had one of those of just porn DVDs, and he would travel with them. So he's like, I'm going to Phoenix this weekend.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  Need it.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  And he would have, and he would have it in the airport, like walk through with a full like CD case of like a hundred DVD. You're like, you need this for the weekend? That's how, how committed he was.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  All right, guys, we're gonna do dates real quick, but first, we gotta shout out the boy. Akash Singh did it, man. Radio City sold the fuck out. Killed it. Not a single seat, killed that shit. Really awesome set and like addressed the things that he's been going through in like a fucking hilarious way and like, I hadn't seen his set in a while and like introspective and it was very, very, very awesome to see. So make sure you guys go continue to check out Akash, but he sold that shit out. The entire internet came for him and he sold it out. Yeah. And none of his critics could be able to handle that type of onslaught and then push through and sell out Radio City. Absolutely not.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  No fucking way, not a chance. So he just shut them all up and as he should and shout out him. And that was fucking amazing to see. It was beautiful. Shout out you, love you, dog. Great fucking job. Salutes to Akash Singh in the building. Uh, we got some shows coming up, uh, this week in Tampa sold out. Thank you guys so much Tampa. Denver is sold out. Thank you, Denver. Uh, we got the Greek Theater. I think there might be a couple of seats at the Greek left for the Netflix is a Joke Festival with Jelly Roll and we just announced, uh, uh, some more comics. I think they just announced on the lineup. So go check that out. That's May 8th, um, May 15th, Salt Lake sold out. Uh, and then we added Virginia Beach.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Uh, June 5th and 6th have been added. The Funny Bone Comedy Club, Virginia Beach. So get that. And then Halifax, Nova Scotia, we're gonna be up there. Me, Mark, uh, Cam Patterson, Luke Gazelnik, and, uh, we're gonna be out there in Halifax, running it up. Amazing. You know, um, shout, RIP to go Pat Stay, man. We need to do like a Pat Stay tribute when we're out there. What happened to Pat Stay? He, he passed away. I didn't know this. Oh my God. Yeah, the roast legend, man. The rap roast legends. Yeah, anyway, Halifax, Nova Scotia. Okay, Mark, let him know.

• 29:22Speaker 01

  I'm gonna be at the Comedy Connection in Providence, Rhode Island on April 23rd. And then at the end of the year, I'm doing a bunch of dates. Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego, and Detroit. I would love to see you guys all there. Thank you so much.

• 29:34Mark Gagnon?

  And guys, I'm throwing tennis events this summer. Three dates, May 16th, July 25th, and August 29th. Just head over to All Love Racket Club on Instagram. The link in the bio. These tennis events are gonna be dope, music, food, giveaways, all that stuff. See you there. And fart.

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• 30:23Speaker 01

  But with those edibles, dude, I worked in a post house in LA. I remember, this is like the early 2000s. And again, it's like, you know, there's not weed stores or anything. And there's a guy there in post who was like, you want, um, you want like an edible cookie? And I was like, yeah, I'd love that. He gives me, it's one of those giant chocolate chip cookies. And I go, how much did I eat? And he goes, eat the whole thing. I was like, alright. I remember I told someone else and they're like, eat half. Let's see how it goes. So I'm just home alone, like on a Friday night or Saturday night. And I eat half. I'm just like watching TV. I don't know, half an hour later, I was like, I feel nothing. I'll just finish this cookie.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  Dude, within an hour. Tears? Tears. Just crying. And I'm like, I'm a bad brother. Just crying. And it stays like that for like six hours. Is there any drug that like you enjoy? It seems like every experience, it just brings out like the worst part. The weed ones were, too much weed is just always a disaster. Like when I OD'd, I OD'd on GHB and a bunch of stuff. What do you mean you OD'd? I OD'd, I was like in a coma when I was like 19. When I took a bunch of GHB and drank and mixed it up. GHB is the. Date rape. Yeah. So you took it voluntarily? We all did then, yeah. Who's we all did? I mean, that girls got, I mean, is this Florida?

• 31:51Speaker 01

  In like the late 90s, early 2000s, that was like very popular. You put it in a bottle cap. So like the way you took it. What the fuck is that? This is how you do GHB. Got it for real. It was just like this.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  It was like this, bro. You go like this. This was a dose. So you'd go.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  That much. Yeah. Tastes like ocean water. Tastes like salt water. Okay. You go, mm. It's almost immediate. Like immediately. Your whole body. You'd be like, we'd call it like permagren, because you'd be like. Just chill it, okay? Yeah. Someone would be like, fuck you bitch. And you'd be like, that's right. Nothing bothered you. Everything felt good. Okay. So I was doing that regularly. And that was everyone in like my high school clique was. And I went to college and I brought some to college. And then I ran out. Uh oh. So I came back. And I saw the dude. I was like, yo, let me get some more of that Georgia homeboy, man. Let me get some of that shit. Georgia homeboy?

• 32:54Speaker 01

  And so that's how we would get it in these, in water bottles. Like it looked yellow. And um. He hadn't dispensed it yet into the water bottles. He had it in a gallon jug. Okay. So he's like, here you go. And literally, I'm like, well. How do you take the right dose? If you're used to the literal water bottle cap. So I have a full gallon jug, which is, you know, weight to it, right? And you're like, okay, so you put it up.

• 33:24Speaker 00

  Ooh, yeah, it's over.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  And what happened was, I just went like this, and I realized I have like 10 doses in my mouth. And now, I don't want to be rude.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  And I don't know, like.

• 33:38Speaker 00

  It's like a wine tasting.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, you're like, do I spit this out? There's like a split second decision.

• 33:43Speaker 00

  You do, but you do.

• 33:44Speaker 01

  You do.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  But you.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  But at the time, I just went.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:48Speaker 01

  And I just put the thing down, I was, thanks dude.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  I love, I love how you're framing this, I didn't want to be rude.

• 33:54Speaker 01

  I didn't want to be rude. I'm a guest. I'm a guest. He just gave me free drugs.

• 33:57Speaker 00

  I have to eat.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I will overdose in front of you. But the real thing, the reason I ended up in a coma was because the, like, the big rule with it always was don't drink on it.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  And I had drank already a bunch.

• 34:10Speaker 00

  So it's in the system.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  I was already cooked.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  And then I just was out, woke up in ICU, fucking, you know, tubes and all this shit.

• 34:19Speaker 00

  Chance you would have died?

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Oh, I was gonna die there without, in a moment. The only reason I didn't die was my sister was at the same place, she called 911.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  Get out of here.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  It would, I would have definitely died, yeah, definitely died.

• 34:30Speaker 00

  How long was the coma?

• 34:32Speaker 01

  Um, not that long, eight, 10 hours or something before I came to.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  But, but the thing was, she was like, yeah, everybody there was like, just let him chill. She's like, he's just like, just let, he's just chilling right now. She's like, he's not.

• 34:48Speaker 00

  That is, that is the way you kind of deal with it. You hope that it just like.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 00

  Cause you don't want to have to handle it. Cause you're also on Jesus' feet. You're like grinning, you're like, oh, he's feeling it.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's good, man, I'm telling you, he's good. Yeah, but she called, she called.

• 35:01Speaker 00

  How pissed are your parents?

• 35:03Speaker 01

  Bro. So wait a minute, so you gave her a bakery? Is that?

• 35:10Speaker 01

  Is that why you started a bakery? No. You're like, I owe you. The word, I can tell you this, when you, when you wake up, right? You don't know what's going on. Yeah. Obviously, I have no idea what's going on. All I do is like, I wake up, I'm in a hospital. So I wake up and I'm looking at lights. Yeah. And also they have my arm strapped down because they don't want you to pull tubes out. Yes, because that's a knee jerk reaction. Knee jerk reaction. Because I have a breathing tube, I also have a tube sending a liquid charcoal into my stomach. Yeah, to have everything coagulate. And so I'm looking at these lights and I'm like, and then I see a doctor that I know come into frame. Like literally like, and I know her and I'm like, I'm like, that's Dr. Cassa. And she's like, you're, she goes, you're in the hospital.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  She goes, you overdosed, but you know, here's where you are. This is what's happening. And I, I can't talk, so I'm just like, okay. And in my head, I'm like, I hope my parents don't know. Like, that's all, that's my thought. And then they come into frame. Oh shit. And I was like, ah. And they hand me a piece of paper because you can only like scribble. And I'm like, I'm 19, but I still write. I go, are you mad? Right? And then they showed, and my dad looks and he goes, no buddy, just disappointed. And I was like, oh man, couldn't pick another thing to say. We're happy you're alive. Yeah, give me a beat at least a little, just wait. And that, yeah, that was fucking. What does mom say? She's just traumatized. Yeah. She's not really saying much.

• 36:38Speaker 01

  Hey, you haven't stopped traumatizing her. No, that's kind of the biggest joy I think I have. I think you really enjoy it. In life. Do you ever seen the helicopter thing I took her on? Yeah, I think I did see that. That's one of the hardest I've ever laughed. Because I couldn't believe she would go up with me. Do you have a, see if you can find this clip. Yeah, it's fucking amazing because I started taking flying lessons. Okay. And I went up with this guy. Helicopter flying. Helicopter flying. Why helicopter? I just always liked them. Why? It's just, I don't know. Before or after Kobe? After. Wow. Yeah, you're a wild boy, bro. But I remembered that, well, one of the things you learn is just like with, you know. I never want to get in a helicopter. I love it. I love helicopters.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  It is the most convenient way to get from Manhattan to JFK. Yeah. You're there in five minutes. Yeah. Okay.

• 37:27Speaker 00

  It is. And like now, when you get like a car service and something in traffic.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  It's like unbelievably expensive. It's not that much crazier to take the helicopter.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  When I come here.

• 37:38Speaker 00

  You do it.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  I take the helicopter to Newark. I take it to Long Island. I take it everywhere.

• 37:42Speaker 00

  It's amazing. It's five minutes. The thing that I'm terrified about is every single time, and I had to stop, once I had kids, I just stopped doing it. Is that I don't, like, at least with a plane, maybe this makes no sense, but I'm like, alright, if the propellers go out, the wings are there.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. Land on the Hudson.

• 38:00Speaker 00

  Land on the Hudson, Sully.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  What do we do with the helicopter if the spinny thing?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Auto-rotation. And you just fucking, you just go down like that.

• 38:09Speaker 00

  So you believe at the height?

• 38:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  You believe, knowing everything you know about things falling, that at the height the helicopter is, that it would just slowly?

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Well, we do it. We do it when we're training. We shut the engine off and actually just.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  But at what height?

• 38:25Speaker 01

  I mean, we start, for probably the first time you do that, it's several hundred feet, you know, you shut it off.

• 38:31Speaker 00

  Higher than when you're going from Newark to the city? Or JFK to the city?

• 38:34Speaker 01

  From JFK to the city, you probably fly, you just, most of probably 1,200 feet, and then.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  You think you're, we're 1,200 feet up?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  No, some, like, I've, I've, I've done it. You're not, you're not flying at 5,000 feet.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  I thought we're like 500 feet or 300.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Oh, sometimes you're at 500 feet.

• 38:52Speaker 00

  So you're toast at 500?

• 38:54Speaker 01

  No, no, you're not toast, man. You're, you're toast if you fly into the side of a fucking building.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  That I think we could avoid.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:01Speaker 00

  I'm never worried about that.

• 39:02Speaker 01

  Cause you can see them, you can't see the engine turn on.

• 39:04Speaker 00

  We take the waterways.

• 39:05Speaker 01

  Birds, birds can fuck you pretty bad, you know?

• 39:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Birds are a real problem. And there's this thing too.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Why are you smiling? This is reframing everything, every story's ever told.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's this funny thing too, when you're flying, they go, just so you know, we're always about two seconds from dying in this thing.

• 39:24Speaker 00

  They say that too.

• 39:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, because in, when you take a, when you fly a plane.

• 39:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:28Speaker 01

  Like I've flown, uh, planes for lessons too.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  You're basically, once you take off and you're cruising, like, you could read a fucking book.

• 39:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Right? In a helicopter, you have, there's zero time off. In other words, like, you are, you're just engaged the entire time.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  Why?

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Because you have to be. You have to have, you're the cyclic, you're, you have to have control of all times because you, you can't, if you'd let go, the aircraft would go down. Like, in a plane, you can just be like, I'm chilling.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  You're saying you have to hold it up manually?

• 40:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have to, you have to hold that, and you have to keep your elevation the whole time, and you're, you're looking at the horizon the whole time.

• 40:13Speaker 00

  Oh, so there's no, like, just autopilot?

• 40:15Speaker 01

  There's none of that. Yeah. You're always, but here's the thing, there's like a, an upside and a downside to that. You're, you're fully engaged, you're hyper aware, you're not really, think of anything else, you're just looking, and you're making inputs all the time, constantly. There's never a point where you're not giving some type of direction to the aircraft. That's not more reassuring at all.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, I trust me less.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  I like the read a book option. I mean, sometimes I do too. Sometimes I do too. But like, also, I'm, I'm not going up there alone, I'm, I'm up there with a, like, an instructor, you know?

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Have you guys ever gotten into some?

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Well, I'll tell you this. So, there's different, there's different types, there's different types. We're learning a lot about Tom today. There's different capacities, just like with a car.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  A Honda Civic and a GT3 RS are different. So with helicopters, there's, there's a big difference. And one of the ones that I learned about was this MD500, which has fully articulating blades, and it's like Coast Guard uses it.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  So this means that blades on top can actually rotate this way, so you're not changing direction with the back thing?

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Well, you, you still, the, the thing still operates the way.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  That's this one?

• 41:27Speaker 01

  That, I don't know if that's an MD, is it?

• 41:28Speaker 00

  This is the one that looks like they take to, to JFK, the blade.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Well, this thing, they're.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, MD500.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. So, it has, it's, um. It has maneuverability options that you don't, wouldn't get like in a Robinson 44.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Right? So the guy that takes me up in this is like a super experienced pilot. And he's like, you wanna see some shit? And I was like, yeah. So he's doing some crazy shit in the aircraft, like sideways, fucking up, down. And I go, I wanna try to get my mom in this and do this to her, you know? Cause she's scared of air travel anyway.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  So.

• 42:08Speaker 00

  It's a good reason.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  I go, I go, tell her, I've been taking lessons.

• 42:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 01

  I wanna take you up and do like a city tour. And she's like, I'm expecting her to be like, not a fucking chance. And she goes, I'd love to see that. And I go, really?

• 42:20Speaker 00

  Which city?

• 42:21Speaker 01

  In Austin. I go, just like, I'll fly you around Lake Austin, take you to.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe the most boring city tour.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  You're in fucking Hawaii.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  You're gonna see the top of these three-story buildings.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  She's like, I will do. And then I tell him, so I, like, we take off, I do some flying, and then I just give him a signal. And I go, like, let it rain. It's like, just fucking go nuts. And I had, I had these, and she, I mean, I've, I've never heard her.

• 42:51Speaker 00

  Play, play this and give us a little buildup, Joey. Make sure that we're at, like, she's calm at least in the beginning. Okay, good. Is this right? Okay, here we go.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  I mean, he's, you can't see externally what he's doing, but we're like sideways to the ground. She's so scared. And I can hear her laughing. I can hear her laughing, dude.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  Oh, this is your mom?

• 43:22Speaker 01

  Dude. He flies vertically, he sends us into nose dives.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  You can hear on the intercom.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  She's making me cry.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  It's one of the hardest I've ever laughed, dude.

• 43:45Speaker 00

  You're going to hell.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  I know.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Like, this is your mom.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  I want to see her coming out. Do we have her coming out? Oh, yeah.

• 43:54Speaker 05

  I don't think a human being is capable of doing stuff like that. He's as bad as it can.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 43:58Speaker 05

  He's a mean son. And he tried to kill me. It didn't work out for him.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  I thought you would enjoy it. I would show you some of the coolest maneuvers.

• 44:06Speaker 05

  Tommy, I cry, I pray, I got petrified.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  And now you're like...

• 44:09Speaker 05

  I scream.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  And now you get to go, "It's my birthday."

• 44:11Speaker 05

  I'm shaking. I am completely nauseated, by the way.

• 44:15Speaker 01

  Isn't that cool, though?

• 44:16Speaker 05

  No, Tommy, qué cool.

• 44:19Speaker 05

  And then all of a sudden, we are crashing, and we are going to the... We were going up to the sky to go down. It was everything that can kill a human being.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  That's all the stuff that I've been trying to master.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  You came here with the intention of destroying your mother.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  And now we go home?

• 44:35Speaker 05

  No, we're going to the mall.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  To the mall?

• 44:37Speaker 05

  Oh, you are going to the mall, and for a long time. Don't forget to mention how cruel is my son. Maybe I'm gonna get the iWatch 15.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  I'm getting both.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  That wasn't even the advanced...

• 44:49Speaker 05

  How can you allow him to do that?

• 44:54Speaker 05

  How much did he pay you to say that?

• 45:01Speaker 01

  She, uh, at one point, this was after my dad died, and in her chaos, I heard her screaming, "Think about your father."

• 45:13Speaker 00

  Was there any moment that you were like, "Oh, maybe we should chill"?

• 45:16Speaker 01

  No. Definitely not. No.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  Do you have no fear of death? Are you not like a big... What happens in the future, Guy?

• 45:25Speaker 01

  No, I think, uh, I definitely have a, you know, I don't walk around like scared to death all the time.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Right, right.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  But, no, I think about mortality for sure, but this is also just so much fun. Like sometimes the fun outweighs.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  That superseds it sometimes. Even when you had kids, was there not this part of you that's like, alright, I gotta turn down some stuff?

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, some of it, some of it. I mean, I used to go to the track more, like in Austin, we have Coda, Circuit of the Americas.

• 45:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  I have been since we've had kids, but there's a couple of times where.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  I thought it was running.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  There's a couple of times where, when you're doing laps, and especially when you start to build up.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  That track is sick, by the way.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  The track's amazing.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  That, that like incline before that first big turn, oh my god.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  It's crazy. And there's this back straight that I had been in.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  What are you, what are you driving on it?

• 46:16Speaker 01

  I've taken out a couple of GT3s.

• 46:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is a Porsche.

• 46:20Speaker 01

  Porsche, yeah. And then, but then my neighbor, I had a neighbor there with a, so those are, the ones I were driving were manual.

• 46:26Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  My, my neighbor was out there with a Ferrari F8, and he was like, you wanna take mine? And I was like, yeah, it's automatic. And the.

• 46:34Speaker 00

  But doesn't have the, uh.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  It does.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  If you want. Just the, but even with these paddles which you're using, you can never mimic how fast this is compared to this.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  And, bro, when I was on that back straight, I was like, oh, that's one of those times where I was like, oh, I could, I could die.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  You really felt it.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Because it was significant speed compared to the, to what I had been driving. Like the, I think in the manuals, you know, you hit like, maybe 145, 150 on the back, and on his, like 177. And I was like, you feel that more of like, the margin for error feels like much, much smaller there.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  I did, uh, not even close to that speed, but I was on, I was on that track with Yuki Tsunoda, you know, the F1 driver?

• 47:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:20Speaker 00

  Small Asian guy.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, um, he took me out in a, I think it was like a Ford, I forget what the fuck it was, that's somewhere.

• 47:31Speaker 01

  Ford GT? The GT?

• 47:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think it was the GT.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  That was badass.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  And they, it's a badass car, they soup it up. Obviously, it's not some like F, you know, Formula E3 or whatever. The thing that I noticed the most was. The car wanting to just turn over on the turns. So like you actually feel the tires like pulling.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Ripping and yeah.

• 47:54Speaker 00

  And I was like, can you give me an example of what this is compared to what you're feeling in the Formula cars?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  And he was like, this is the equivalent of like taking a golf cart on the track.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  I mean, crazy.

• 48:09Speaker 03

  This is the F1 track, Dakota track?

• 48:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. I remember I did.

• 48:12Speaker 00

  You're like Spanish Latino, right?

• 48:15Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  You don't have to do white people shit.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  We got him now.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  This shit is crazy.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  Hey, we got him.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  You're right.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  That's your mom. You can't do that to your mom.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  Were you like this as a kid? Did you like dirt bikes and shit?

• 48:30Speaker 01

  No, no. Just GHB dude.

• 48:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, just GHB.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  I always liked cars. I always liked fast cars.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. I never had any, but I still liked them.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  Right. But you were thrill seeking in some way.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  You know, I didn't, I never did bungee jumping. I never did the parachuting stuff, you know? So me was always like something with an injure like that. That's always what was, I like boats, like going up.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Going fast.

• 48:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like going fast. Yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. But she, um, I went to that Dallas Motor Speedway and I got in a NASCAR there. And I would, cause I was like, how fun could that be? The, the, the loop.

• 49:04Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  Is it because of the?

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  So break that down. What is that even called?

• 49:09Speaker 01

  Bank.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  The, the bank, the gradient, right?

• 49:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  Can you even stand on that at its highest point?

• 49:15Speaker 01

  I don't, I think you, I don't know if you could.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  It's tough to run up.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's difficult to get up there.

• 49:20Speaker 00

  So what happens?

• 49:20Speaker 03

  If a homeless guy causes that, you can get up there. But it's tough.

• 49:24Speaker 00

  But like, is it at 45 degrees towards the top? Is it at?

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Might be. That's what it feels like.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Sure. I, but what was fascinating to me was they were like, all right. You you have to you have to keep this speed.

• 49:36Speaker 00

  Because if not, the car is just gonna fall over.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  And then they, you know, and like you realize.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  It's like a carnival ride.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  There was a guy in a radio like telling me like where to go, what speed to keep, when to push, then and then to maintain. He was just like, now just hold it here.

• 49:51Speaker 00

  And you're alone in the car?

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  And what do you have to hold on that?

• 49:55Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 49:57Speaker 00

  Thirty three degrees.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Thirty three.

• 49:58Speaker 00

  Thirty three degrees. And what do you have to hold on that, speed wise?

• 50:00Speaker 01

  Well, so they they had this thing where they were like, we don't want to be liable for your death.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  Right.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  So they start you off. And then when when you complete a lap at a slower rate, you come in and they would manually change the limiter.

• 50:14Speaker 00

  There's a governor on the car.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  And then they so every time I would do a couple laps, I would have to pit and they would like ramp it up a little more. And then I was like, let it go all the way. And they're like, not a fucking chance. But it was super. I think the highest we hit on that was like in the one fifties or sixties.

• 50:32Speaker 00

  There's a clip of this guy, I'm sure you've seen it, where it's like he's talking to his, what is the captain? Or who's the guy who's basically? Crew chief or pit chief? Yeah, your pit, his pit chief. And he's like, uh, I'm just gonna push my foot down and either see a checkered flag or see God.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:51Speaker 00

  Have you seen that clip? You see that one?

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:54Speaker 00

  And he and he just push, we should bring it up. He pushes his foot down on the gas and then he rides the wall.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  So he doesn't even try to maneuver.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Like Lightning McQueen.

• 51:04Speaker 00

  Literally, it's something outside of cars or from cars. And he just basically scrapes the whole side of his car and uses the bank or the wall as his own protection. So he's gonna fly out. And then I think he wins the race.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, they made it illegal after that, I'm pretty sure.

• 51:19Speaker 00

  Probably a good idea. They're like, yeah, you can't like the wall ride.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  See the checkered flag or see God's pretty wild.

• 51:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. What is his name? His name's Ross Chastain. You got it up, Joe?

• 51:29Speaker 01

  You guys are fucking crazy.

• 51:30Speaker 00

  You need audio on this one, just to see this guy.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  You guys are nuts, bro.

• 51:34Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just gonna put my foot on the floor and I'm not lifting to like see God or a checkered flag. My man.

• 51:41Speaker 00

  Look at this.

• 51:43Mark Gagnon?

  They always play Snuffle.

• 51:57Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Holy.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Wow, that's pretty nuts.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  The next day?

• 52:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:04Mark Gagnon?

  Why would they ban it? That's kind of sick.

• 52:07Speaker 01

  Grand Tereso, you can't do that. Have you been to a NASCAR race?

• 52:11Speaker 00

  Not NASCAR, I'd like to go to NASCAR.

• 52:12Speaker 01

  It was a much different experience.

• 52:14Speaker 00

  It's awesome.

• 52:15Speaker 01

  I had the same thing where I was like, I'm not, I'm just not interested.

• 52:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:19Speaker 01

  And I went there, first I, I went to the Daytona 500.

• 52:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  First of all, just the atmosphere, sort of like, the first time I went to UFC, I wasn't that interested in you. I was like, yeah, I'll go.

• 52:32Speaker 00

  And then you go to an actual fight, you're like.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  And you go to a fight, and you're like, holy shit, the energy. So the energy, Daytona in particular, is just, it is electric. I mean, really takes over. Then you're in there, we were able to walk around with like the different teams. And you see, like, the caliber of people, the conversations they're having, the studying, and you're like, holy shit, there's so much strategy going into this and like, so much commitment the whole way through about this. And then the skill itself, when you, when, when you hear the engine start and they take off, you're like, like the, it's like this visceral reaction.

• 53:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the sound and, and you just, being there changed the way that I looked at the sport.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  I mean, the flyover.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  The flyover's a fantastic.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  You need that at everything.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  The flyover's unbelievable. They, they had the, what's it called? Not the Blue Angels, but the Air Force one, the thunder, uh, I don't know. But holy shit, I thought we were getting bombed. I was like, oh my gosh. It was just the thunderbirds, just them flying over. Yeah, the whole atmosphere, you walk out of there being like, that was all fucking unbelievable.

• 53:42Speaker 00

  There is something about the races, which is like, I didn't grow up with car culture at all. Like, I grew up in New York City, like, nobody had a fucking car.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  And I went to a Formula One and the sound of the cars made me feel like this childhood nostalgia. And I'd never had cars, but it was something about just like this loud motor.

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  You just feel like a kid.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  And they zoom by and every time I just find myself going zoom.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Have you been to F1 races?

• 54:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  They're fun, too.

• 54:09Speaker 00

  Did Miami, we did, uh, and then Austin.

• 54:14Speaker 00

  And I don't know if we were there for, no, we weren't there for the, in the, in Abu Dhabi, but there is a hotel.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:20Speaker 00

  On the property.

• 54:21Speaker 01

  I think we drove, I drove on that track too.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  That was fun.

• 54:24Speaker 00

  The Formula Three cars.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:26Speaker 00

  The four? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was sick.

• 54:27Speaker 01

  So fun. So fun.

• 54:29Speaker 03

  I would say there's something about NASCAR that makes you feel all American. Like, I haven't been in an F1 race that I imagine it's like a little, a little higher class.

• 54:36Speaker 00

  Oh, you definitely.

• 54:38Speaker 03

  But there's something about NASCAR where it's like, you see like pristine, like engineers working on shit. You see like former D1 athletes, you know, in the crew. But also just like a dude with a shirt off getting sunburned. And you're like, this is great.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  It's very America. Yeah, yes.

• 54:52Speaker 03

  It's worth going.

• 54:53Speaker 00

  At the, at that track in Abu Dhabi, I thought that the markers on the side before the turns were the speed you were supposed to go, not the distance to the turn.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  So I was like trying to.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  I have to go 220 right now?

• 55:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I was like, I don't even understand, you know, the point of this, really. But that was sick.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's so cool. They were so, such gracious hosts too. Like, they were so like.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:20Speaker 00

  The best.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  The best.

• 55:21Speaker 00

  All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. Um, I've realized something over the last couple of years, definitely since having kids, that sleep is the most precious resource on the planet. It is more valuable than oil, gold, other things.

• 55:39Speaker 03

  Diamonds?

• 55:40Speaker 00

  Diamonds, diamonds. Like, none of these things matter, really, to be honest with you. If your sleep is off, your whole life is off, your mood, your energy, how you think, all of it. And I didn't really take it seriously. And then I, I, I did little things that could incrementally change how well I was sleeping. And one of those was I switched to Brooklyn Bedding. This mattress is different. I'm not just like crashing anymore. I'm actually recovering. You want recovery. You want a mattress so comfortable, you're sleeping through the night, not waking up at 2:30, then again at 4:30, tossing and turning because you're on some horrible mattress that doesn't allow you to get that recovery that you need, okay?

• 56:26Speaker 00

  I reset. That's what I do. I recommend getting yourself a mattress from Brooklyn Bedding. They're not just throwing together some random mattress. They've designed and built everything themselves in their own factory in Arizona. No middlemen, no gimmicks, just quality. Yes, it's Brooklyn mattress that's designed in Arizona. Maybe there's a part of Arizona called Brooklyn, but we're not looking into it. The reality is you're gonna sleep. They got options for everybody. Whatever your sleep style is, they got something for you. If you sleep hot, personally, kinda sleep bad. They actually have mattresses that stay cool at night so they can cool you down. You want your temperature to be a few degrees colder so you get that nice, deep sleep.

• 57:06Speaker 00

  Also, this is big. They're endorsed by the American Chiropractic Association. So if you believe in fake medicine, you will appreciate that, okay? You don't have to stress trying it either. They're gonna give you a 120-night trial. Think about that. That's four months. If you don't love it, you can swap it out. Simple. So do yourself a favor. Go to brooklinbedding.com, use the promo code FLAGRANT at checkout and get 30% off site-wide. That's brooklinbedding.com promo code FLAGRANT for 30% off. Get your sleep right. Everything else gets easier. Also, before we go back in, we've gotten some very interesting results, some health results. All of us on the podcast have gotten some health results.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know why we did this. It's just a full-on body scan of all of our markers.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  All of our markers. We're gonna find our biological age. And we know what our biological ages are. And before we tell each other what they are, I just wanna know like, how confident you guys are and who is the youngest?

• 58:09Speaker 03

  Well, this is where it's tricky. Cause I have the youngest biological age for sure. You sure about that? 100%.

• 58:17Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  I don't know if I have the biggest delta.

• 58:19Speaker 00

  No, no, no. Forget that.

• 58:22Speaker 03

  No. There's no way you have a younger biological age than that.

• 58:27Speaker 00

  Do you have, the fact you haven't pulled your phone up makes me think that you're lying. I'll leave to remember two numbers.

• 58:35Mark Gagnon?

  No, I need to see it.

• 58:36Speaker 00

  I know what mine is.

• 58:37Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I need to see it.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  I have my age. You have your age?

• 58:39Mark Gagnon?

  I got my age.

• 58:40Speaker 00

  Okay, so we got this whole like body scanned and they looked at all these different markers, etc.

• 58:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:45Speaker 00

  Shout out to Function Health that did it for us. And, you know, it's really just bestowed bragging rights on us. It's not even about living forever. Mm-hmm. Or like, understanding like how your body's becoming decrepit. This is just another bragging tool that we have on the pod. Why don't we start with Alex? Black don't crack. Yep. Let's see.

• 59:05Mark Gagnon?

  Definitely don't crack.

• 59:06Speaker 00

  Let's see if black doesn't crack.

• 59:08Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna blow you out the water.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  Just let's see. Let's see. Well, should we start with his actual age? Yeah, what is your actual age?

• 59:14Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know that.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  What is your actual?

• 59:17Mark Gagnon?

  It's in the 30s.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  You're 38 years old. You're a 38-year-old man.

• 59:21Mark Gagnon?

  My biological age, I might be extraterrestrial because it's 23.4.

• 59:29Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  Boss y'all ass.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  Boss y'all ass.

• 59:33Mark Gagnon?

  No. That is helpful.

• 59:35Speaker 00

  I don't know if Function Health is.

• 59:37Mark Gagnon?

  That is.

• 59:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know how accurate. Accurate, bro. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel really, really good.

• 59:42Mark Gagnon?

  That is motherfucking healthy right.

• 59:44Speaker 00

  They shaved 15 years off of your age.

• 59:46Mark Gagnon?

  Dang.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  Okay, what was out? Can you tell me what was out? Superhuman. Let me see, let me see. You mad because I beat your shit? No, I'll probably. What is yours again? What is yours again?

• 59:56Mark Gagnon?

  23.4.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  This is crazy. You beat Mark. Yeah. You beat Mark. I didn't say I would beat you. I said somebody else would beat you. Yeah, well, did you know? You are younger than Mark is biologically.

• 1:00:10Mark Gagnon?

  Look at him.

• 1:00:11Speaker 00

  No, this is what.

• 1:00:14Speaker 00

  First of all, you're not even married, doesn't count. Yeah, exactly. If you're married and have kids. You don't have a kid. It's not even. Yeah. I'm shocked yours is as low as it is. I saw it. Yeah, I'm coming in at 23.8.

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  That's three months.

• 1:00:30Speaker 00

  He has a child and a wife.

• 1:00:32Mark Gagnon?

  That's barely younger than his actual age.

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  No, but when did you take yours?

• 1:00:35Mark Gagnon?

  What's your delta?

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  He did his three months.

• 1:00:37Speaker 00

  What is my age?

• 1:00:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, what is yours?

• 1:00:39Speaker 00

  I think I'm older. I think I might be a few years older. Who's got mine? I'm thirty-five? I'm thirty-five.

• 1:00:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, you're healthier than Mark, because you have a bigger delta on yours than Mark does.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  Dumbass. No, no, you gotta divide it.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  You brought out your delta, dumbass.

• 1:00:56Mark Gagnon?

  But you said he tried to talk about deltas.

• 1:00:58Speaker 00

  I never even wanted to talk about deltas.

• 1:01:00Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 1:01:00Speaker 00

  You brought out your delta.

• 1:01:01Mark Gagnon?

  You brought it out.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  Now you're in third place. Get some sleep.

• 1:01:04Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:01:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yup.

• 1:01:05Speaker 03

  I'm twenty-three over twenty-nine.

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  I hope you enjoyed it.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  Divide his.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  Now you know.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  Thirty-five over forty-five.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  Now you know what Siki is. Now you know all these religions in the world, all this shit.

• 1:01:15Mark Gagnon?

  All that little breathing shit, you do the.

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Mark Gagnon?

  That shit ain't doing nothing.

• 1:01:19Speaker 03

  I don't do that. I don't do that. I don't do that.

• 1:01:22Speaker 00

  What's crazy?

• 1:01:23Mark Gagnon?

  He does all that breathing shit.

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  I don't even know what you're talking about.

• 1:01:26Speaker 03

  Thank you for bailing me out. I appreciate that.

• 1:01:28Mark Gagnon?

  You go upstate, you do your little breathing exercises.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  That shit ain't working. You need to take some time off, B. Now the outfits and the nails make perfect sense.

• 1:01:35Mark Gagnon?

  Me, I dress my age.

• 1:01:36Speaker 00

  I know, yeah. What is your hairline on the function health?

• 1:01:40Mark Gagnon?

  Can we get that? That must have had a couple decades in that shit.

• 1:01:47Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:01:47Speaker 00

  What is mine? I'm thirty-five. Thirty-five.

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 1:01:50Speaker 00

  Takes seven years off.

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  Uh, that's how old I am. I'm still old. Even with my biological age, I'm old as shit.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Golly.

• 1:02:01Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  What do I take? Uh, anyway.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  You can fix it, brother.

• 1:02:05Speaker 00

  Look, wait, how would I fix it?

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't know. Why you look so tired when you said that?

• 1:02:09Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 1:02:10Speaker 00

  I'm tired.

• 1:02:11Mark Gagnon?

  I tried to shame you into, you know, taking care of yourself.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  No, I look good now.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  That'll make crazy.

• 1:02:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, when you sit down, you know your stomach goes up and your belly just like flops over.

• 1:02:23Speaker 00

  That's what it's supposed to do.

• 1:02:25Mark Gagnon?

  No, the whole interview, you're like.

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  Is that your pubic hair coming so high? Why you sweating? Son, I don't think you're twenty-three, bro.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:02:34Speaker 00

  I don't think you're twenty-three.

• 1:02:35Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, numbers don't lie, man.

• 1:02:36Speaker 03

  But you do.

• 1:02:38Mark Gagnon?

  We're not the W.

• 1:02:39Speaker 00

  You do lie, though. You are a liar.

• 1:02:41Mark Gagnon?

  I can't lie.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  It's a problem, you know?

• 1:02:42Mark Gagnon?

  The numbers don't.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Were you honest on the intake form? Did you say your actual age?

• 1:02:45Speaker 00

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:02:46Mark Gagnon?

  What are you talking about?

• 1:02:47Speaker 03

  I was like, how tall do you say you were?

• 1:02:51Speaker 00

  That's a good ass point.

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  I think now you have to show them your IDs.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  You're built like a child, bro. For real. You got a young body, you got short height, fuck, I'm fucking.

• 1:03:07Speaker 00

  I think what Mark's trying to say.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  Old ass brain.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  It just backfired. No, honestly, the synapses went fire right there.

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  Early onset.

• 1:03:14Speaker 00

  What I think Mark's trying to say is like, there's still hope, you can still be growing.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  That's what I meant.

• 1:03:18Speaker 00

  Like, you might be able to get a couple more inches on you.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:03:22Speaker 00

  It's a chance.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  There is hope.

• 1:03:24Speaker 00

  Highly unlikely.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Come on, man. Gotta be optimistic.

• 1:03:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, I guess you're right. Anyway, look, you can own your health for a dollar a day. Think about that. $365 a year. That's a dollar a day. You learn more and join Function using our link. Visit functionhealth.com/flagrant. Use the gift code FLAGRANT for a $25 credit towards your membership. Get your real age up, okay? You should do it, not tell your girlfriend or wife, end up being younger than her.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  Deal with that existential crisis. They love that. They love that. Also, my wife is still like shedding baby weight. I'm supposed to get shredded while she's going through her.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's disrespectful.

• 1:04:09Speaker 00

  Shedding baby weight?

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, look at this guy.

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  I'm trying. And how much is he aging?

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that is true.

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  Stressing me out.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Anyway, let's get back to the show.

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

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• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  I didn't realize you were such a thrill seeker. This is news to me.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  I mean, I think it's pretty much like, there's people who are like, it's 24/7, all these things.

• 1:04:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  I feel like I just like fast cars and...

• 1:05:03Speaker 00

  What does wifey feel about this?

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Could you fucking take it easy, please? That makes sense. Yeah. Could you not do something stupid and crazy? Yeah. And then you continue doing it, and then what's that? Well, I just, I feel like, like I said, I haven't done the track thing in a while. It wasn't like a, I don't want you to go anymore. It was just kind of like natural fall off thing. The flying, she was like, ah, she prefers fixed wing, she prefers a plane. Yeah. She's like, yeah, learn to fly a plane. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. But I haven't gone up in. Motorcycle? I've not, no, I did it one time. I did it one time and I was like, nah. Never again. Not doing it. Just is one of those things where it's, it's like when you know your limits thing where you're like, this ain't for me. You know, this ain't for me.

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  The bike shit is crazy. It ain't for me, dude. There's people I know that like, the other thing is, I think there's a, like in a lot of ways, if you start your motorcycle driving at 16 and you're 40 now, like, that makes sense. Yeah. But if you're like, I'm gonna pick this up. Nope. It feels crazy. You know? You're a motorcycle guy? Yeah. That's what you ride around? No, I mean, not anymore now, just like an electric bike, like a dad. Really? No, but he had a proper motorcycle in New York City. Yeah, still have it. Still have it, it's awesome, it's the best. I mean, I imagine in a city like this, that's. That's also not that dangerous, cause you're in the city, you're going like 25 miles. I get that, yeah. But then you go out of the city and just go through like little winding roads. I was never like a fast, like, you know, like, like motorbike guy.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  My last experience, sorry, I did the motorcycle once and then I was in Australia and I went to Daniel Ricardo's ranch. Oh, in Perth? In Perth. And he was like, um, yeah, like, like, I got all these toys. He's got the dirt bikes out there, right? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, let's ride these dirt bikes over to the other part of the ranch. And I was like, yeah, I don't know, man. He's like, it's a fucking like, whatever, 10 cc, I don't remember the, he's like, this is nothing. I was like, I just, I don't trust me. He was like, these are, these are fucking nothing. I go, alright. So he's like, just, I go, just tell me the, the basics, right?

• 1:07:14Speaker 00

  I can't wait till we hear this story from Daniel and he's like, yeah, Tom just wouldn't stop begging me to get on the fucking dirt.

• 1:07:22Speaker 00

  Just wouldn't stop pestering me about this fucking dirt.

• 1:07:24Mark Gagnon?

  He just asked him one time.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  This was so clear cut.

• 1:07:29Speaker 00

  Friends like you, by the way, who like, everything happens to them.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:33Speaker 00

  You know?

• 1:07:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:34Speaker 00

  Like my, I have a buddy, I won't say his name, but it's just like, yeah, this girl is like fucking begging me to come back to her room. And like, just fucking begging me to stuff my dick in her mouth. And I was like, alright, fine, I gotta do it.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  For you.

• 1:07:45Speaker 00

  For her. She'd be feeling so insecure.

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  I don't even like coming.

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  Okay, go, go.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  Well, he, so we, we fill, he fills it up and there's one garage. And then I go, just tell me, I don't, I go, I'm not an experienced rider. I know this is a mini bike, but like, what do I need to know? And he's basically like, this is your gas, I think, you know, up, up for like, there's like three, it's like three gears. And he's like, and then these are your brakes. Your brakes are right here, like on the, let's say the right side. I'm like, alright. So we're going up this hill. And then we start like cruising. And when cruising is say, let's say like 30. It's like, it's up this dirt path. And I'm like, this feels good, it's fun. And then you're like, man, this is fucking rad, I like this. And as this thing comes up to the top, you see that there's a turn to the left.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  So I'm cruising, I'm like, alright, well, now it's time to slow down for this turn. So all I know is ease off here and pull this brake. So I start to do that. And I turn, slide out, fall off, right? And I, it takes me a second to just check, like, is everything okay? So I'm checking, there's blood coming out of here, there's blood here, but nothing's like broken. And I turn to Daniel and he's laughing so hard that he can't even say words. Like he's just in tears, laughing. And then he's like, ah. He's like, you okay? And I go, yeah, what's? I mean, I did what you said.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  He goes, I forgot to tell you that like the left side is like the rear brakes.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  So you threw the front brake?

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, locked up the front wheel. Yeah. That would have been cool from someone who said, I don't know how to do this. And then he just like patched me up. Like we had to clean everything and patch me up. I was like, bro, like you could have said. He goes, yeah, I just, I forgot.

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  He's like, I need to have fun.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  I need to have fun too. It's fun to watch people eat shit.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. Ricardo's the man, by the way.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  He is the man.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  He's the fucking man.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  He's the coolest dude I know, for sure.

• 1:09:51Speaker 00

  Did that, I think he did it right.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:09:54Speaker 00

  Like he maintained a positive, Daniel Ricardo. So if you watch like, do you watch Drive and Survive, the Formula One, the show? Do you remember when that documentary came out? It was like a documentary about Formula One.

• 1:10:05Speaker 01

  It's white people shit, for sure.

• 1:10:06Speaker 00

  It's super white people shit. Um, but yeah, he's just.

• 1:10:10Mark Gagnon?

  He's a coach or a driver?

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  Driver. He's a driver.

• 1:10:12Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, okay.

• 1:10:13Speaker 00

  But like he just maintained positive vibes the entire time.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  Always.

• 1:10:17Speaker 00

  The most hyper competitive, there's 20 spots.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  There's 20 people on the planet that get to drive the car.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  And your teammate wants to take your fucking head off. Nobody is your friends. No one likes you. Everybody's jockeying for another, you know, seat at a different car. If you're, you know, what is it? Your contract's about to go up. And the guy won races and fucking made crazy money and he's got his life.

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it's awesome. Standard issue Australian. Is fucking, yeah, awesome dude.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  The ranch is sick?

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 1:10:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:49Speaker 01

  Amazing. He is, and he's, this is him, this smile is, is this guy like all the time.

• 1:10:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's handsome, like retired at 35 or something, just having the best time. Like, what have you been doing like so far in life? Well, for like 15 years, I was a professional racer since I was like 21. You're like, oh, and you have this great disposition? Yeah, he's, he's great, dude.

• 1:11:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's the man. But it is a crazy, like think about that, there are 20 spots. How many jobs are like that?

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  No, I know.

• 1:11:17Speaker 00

  It's like just twenty.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  Because even when you think about like pro sports where it's like the elite of the elite.

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Still hundreds.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  NBA, there's four hundred and some NBA players, you know? NFL, fifty-three man roster. You're still super elite, but this is like.

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  Twenty.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's it.

• 1:11:32Speaker 00

  And it's kind of hard to conceptualize because you're like, well, what makes you good at just driving?

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  I know. And they're so young, like when they get in, when they.

• 1:11:41Speaker 00

  Now, I feel like they're much younger than they used to be. I feel like back in the day, the guys would have like longer careers.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  Some of them last long, you know?

• 1:11:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:49Speaker 01

  But for the most part, these are like.

• 1:11:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're like twenty. And they go from, they go from driving a go-kart.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:56Speaker 00

  To driving the fastest cars on the planet.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  It's wild.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  It is weird that there isn't this like intermediary.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  I know. It's go-kart, then it's like Formula Four.

• 1:12:05Speaker 00

  Formula Three or Formula Four.

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  But why, why is go-kart the best comparison?

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  I think it's the only thing that can be accessible to somebody who goes, I want to race. Like, what could you possibly get into?

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  That's right, because all the other cars is just fucking millions of dollars.

• 1:12:19Speaker 01

  It's so much money. And even like you hear these stories of like Lewis Hamilton, and I'm sure a bunch of other guys where they're like, I wanted to race, even that go-karting was expensive for us. And the people had to sell things and work second jobs just to let their kid go-kart.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:34Speaker 00

  But we gotta like talk to one of these guys and ask them like what the actual competitive advantage is. Because they're not engineers, right? It's not like, yes, they understand the cars and like some of them know how to like fix them, et cetera. But like, what do they know that we don't know?

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Well, the one thing that I learned, because I thought, you know, you see about these like how the budgets are crazy for like Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and how these other ones have like a fraction of the budget.

• 1:13:00Speaker 00

  They also get some money from the.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  But here's the thing, that money goes into, like, even though you think you see like twenty F1 cars, these ain't the same cars.

• 1:13:12Speaker 00

  Oh, that is.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  They're not driving the same shit.

• 1:13:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is like capitalism in its most pure form.

• 1:13:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:18Speaker 00

  And here's another thing, even the cars on the team.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:23Speaker 00

  Are not the same.

• 1:13:24Speaker 01

  Not the same.

• 1:13:24Speaker 00

  And that's the thing that they try to pretend isn't the truth.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:27Speaker 00

  But like. Max's car might have 20 engineers working on it.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  And the second car at Red Bull might have three.

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  And you could be a driver who's top tier and you get into one of those and you go, this car like they know they're like this car is bullshit. You know, like the, the, the way it handles, the, the whatever, like everything about it. They go, this feels like I'm driving a truck.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  And they, and you realize like, oh, I thought it was the same, like it's not the same.

• 1:13:55Speaker 03

  Is it on the same team? Why would they make the car just as good?

• 1:14:00Speaker 00

  So they say they do, and it's the same engine and the same parts, but like the amount of people working on it to tweak it. Basically what a team like Red Bull has to decide is, hey, we gotta keep Max happy. And if the car is not that good, we have to deploy way more people to working on that car to get the most out of it. And we can only really do that with one guy.

• 1:14:19Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I'd be pissed. If you're the second guy, there'd be 14 missing scientists.

• 1:14:27Speaker 00

  But that's the shit where, that's the shit where basically like you gotta be a politician in that game. Cause you could be, have a snake attitude about it and then people don't want to work with you. Or you could be lobbying the team constantly to get them to support.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  Like there's all this behind the scenes drama that's kind of interesting that again, there's 20 spots. So if you're a fucking pain in the ass and you're not winning every race, they're gonna go, I can get another guy to lose.

• 1:14:52Speaker 01

  You forget how sensitive those guys are to the mechanics of like on a lap, what they sense.

• 1:15:00Speaker 00

  So that's, that's the competitive advantage, right?

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  I feel like it is because the same way that like you and I, anyone who works a microphone.

• 1:15:08Speaker 00

  We can feel a crowd.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you also go like, this is tinny or this feedback is here. Those guys, they're like this understeer, this is, it's, it doesn't feel right. Something that like, I feel like most people would just be like, that's just how this car moves.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  They're so dialed in on things that they know like, I can't win in this car.

• 1:15:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you gotta have a good neck. You gotta have a strong, you gotta have a good neck.

• 1:15:29Speaker 01

  Man, I think Ricardo told me, I was like, how much do you guys think about weight? Like how much you weigh?

• 1:15:34Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  And it's cause like every, you know.

• 1:15:36Speaker 00

  Everything counts.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  And he's like, the. Heavy in F1 is I think 160 pounds.

• 1:15:42Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:15:43Speaker 01

  You want to be under that.

• 1:15:44Speaker 03

  You can't get dwarves doing that. But you can't get little people. They have midget racing.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're right.

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  That's the cars.

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  Maybe that's the secret to it all.

• 1:15:54Speaker 00

  We need a car.

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  Right, like, I don't know, why not?

• 1:15:56Speaker 01

  A top-tier little man driver?

• 1:15:58Speaker 03

  Would that not be a benefit? I mean, there's people that like try to cut their legs off to compete in like Paralympics. You ever heard of this?

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, yes.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  There's like dudes that are like.

• 1:16:05Speaker 00

  They cut them off?

• 1:16:05Speaker 03

  So like they'll have like some disability.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  People.

• 1:16:08Speaker 00

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  That, that maybe.

• 1:16:11Speaker 00

  That's another level of competitiveness.

• 1:16:12Speaker 03

  People that have like a spinal cord injury, they'll have disabled legs. So their legs don't work.

• 1:16:16Speaker 00

  So you might as well hack them off.

• 1:16:18Speaker 03

  Might as well chop them off so you can roll around.

• 1:16:19Speaker 00

  Faster.

• 1:16:20Speaker 03

  And the guys that roll around with no legs go a little faster than the guys with the legs. So the dude will go to the doctor and be like, can I get my legs back? He's like, no, you're never getting your legs back. He goes, all right, chop them off. Cause I'm getting the gold, all right? I'm competing for America, I'm making the team.

• 1:16:32Speaker 00

  But they're like, think about like.

• 1:16:33Speaker 03

  Whatever it takes. I was thinking about it.

• 1:16:36Speaker 01

  Without a doubt.

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  Like the level of competitiveness.

• 1:16:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, Jordan never cut off his legs, you know?

• 1:16:42Speaker 01

  Although there's that Ronnie Lott story, you know, the finger.

• 1:16:44Speaker 00

  With the finger?

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:45Speaker 00

  I respect that.

• 1:16:46Speaker 03

  What is that?

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  Ronnie Lott got his like finger caught in like a face mask. And it was the kind of thing where anybody would be like, what are we gonna do? And they're like, well, you're out of this game.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  And we'll, whatever, we'll go to the hospital and do whatever. He was just like, just take it off.

• 1:17:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  Like cut it off.

• 1:17:02Speaker 00

  Yakuza.

• 1:17:02Speaker 01

  Right back in the game.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  And they did?

• 1:17:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:04Speaker 03

  Who's the trainer?

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  Who's the team? This is, we live in a new era where like the teams have to pretend they care about the athletes.

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  Like they put you in that little tent, they're like, we have to see if you got a concussion. And it's really just a guy in there like, so you're gay?

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. 100%.

• 1:17:20Speaker 03

  Are you a fucking bitch?

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're a pussy. Well, you don't remember your fucking birthday.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  So what? Get out there and hit the guy.

• 1:17:27Speaker 03

  Being in the game.

• 1:17:28Speaker 00

  Do you remember what a nickel defense is?

• 1:17:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:30Speaker 00

  Good, get out there.

• 1:17:31Speaker 03

  It's this many fingers.

• 1:17:34Speaker 00

  It is a little, uh, it is a weird time for sports where they have to pretend a little bit more.

• 1:17:39Speaker 01

  They have to pretend, and football more than like, that whole thing is like a big pretend thing. Like where football, like, we know what's happening.

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:46Speaker 01

  They don't give a fuck about you. They literally treat them like cattle.

• 1:17:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  Like, that's the way they, you use, people get like, they're like, they just take away your key card to work, to walk in. That's how they cut people.

• 1:17:57Speaker 00

  Oh, to get into the facility.

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  Your shit doesn't work anymore. Like, they don't give a fuck about you.

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  You almost played college ball, right?

• 1:18:03Speaker 01

  No, I played high school football and I almost played, I almost played like, small D3, D2 ball. But I was like, I'm definitely done. And I also, they told me before I went. Was that?

• 1:18:14Speaker 00

  Not exciting enough.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  Well, the thing was when I, the one I was gonna go to, they, the admissions office called me in June, or like, end of May. And they were like, I was like, planning on going. And they're like, your math scores are so bad from high school. You gotta take a math class this summer in order to come to school here. And I just was like, I'm not doing that. And it was just like, okay, goodbye. It was like the, like, that was it. And then in August, like, two days before camp, the line coach called me. He's like, we're excited to have you, son. It's gonna be like, you know, the whole speech. And I was like, oh, I'm not coming to school there. And he was like, what? I go, yeah, you guys said I had to take a math course. I didn't do that shit. And he was like, what the fuck?

• 1:18:59Speaker 01

  He's like, no one told me that. I go, I mean, I didn't have your number. Like, you guys told me that. And it was just like, all right. And he was like, bye. And we just hung up. I was like, yeah, I'm just not doing that. So, it was just a disinterest in having to do math and also being like, I'm not. I was, once I got in college and I saw how hard the guys worked that were on the team. And like, what I was doing, I was like, there's no fucking way I would do this.

• 1:19:27Speaker 00

  Also, for like, D2, D3 football?

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:31Speaker 00

  D2, D3 basketball, even if you're riding the bench, it's fun. Your whole body isn't destroyed for the rest of your life.

• 1:19:39Speaker 01

  D3, you were playing the line? Yeah. Yeah, like your, your brain is gonna be different. Oh, yeah. From practice. For what? For nothing. For the love of the game. We won a championship, D3. Yeah, no, no, you're totally right. And I saw that like, these guys, their offseason conditioning, where they were getting up at like five. And like, you know, it was just like so much work. And it really is, like, the truth is, if you really, really love it that much, I could see, like, like, I did it. I played D2, D3, and I was, I loved it. Yeah. But I knew that I didn't You didn't love it. Love it like that, you know? Like, I loved it when it was like, fun and I got to play all the time and like, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't that type of commitment. Yeah.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  And when I saw like how I was living in college, I was like, there's no way I could fuck it. Where'd you go to school? I went to a tiny school in North Carolina called Lenore Ryan, like a small, small school. What is it?

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  Lenore Ryan. Lenore Ryan? Yeah, yeah. It's the only school I got into.

• 1:20:44Speaker 01

  I didn't think I was gonna get in anywhere. Yeah. And the, the high school. Guys' counselor? Like, I went into the off, I went to a small prep school and he was like- For football? No, no, just like in, in, we moved, I was in Milwaukee at a big public high school and we moved to Florida, went to this small private school. I was a terrible student. And I went in to see that counselor and he was like, you know, you don't have a lot of options. And I was like, really? He was like, no. He's like, your grades are terrible, man. I was like, okay. And then, he left the room and there was a piece of paper on the desk that had my class's GPA of everybody in descending order. So you could see like, all the way down. And I'm looking at it and I'm like-

• 1:21:28Speaker 01

  Probably in the middle, right? And I like flipped the paper.

• 1:21:35Speaker 01

  And I'm second to last, above a guy named Rocky.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  I was like, fuck. And what was Rocky like? Dumber than shit.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Dumber than shit, literally. I mean, if you met Rocky, you'd be like, bro, this guy- He's living up to the name. Rocky was a box of hammers, like, he could barely fucking spit a sentence out. Yeah. And I was like, holy shit, I'm almost as dumb as Rocky? And then he was like, where do you want to go to school? And I was like, I, for some reason, I got locked in about, I love Denver. I visited once and I was like, I want to go to DU, Denver University. He was like, good fucking luck, man. Okay, so I sent them an application and they denied me.

• 1:22:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:22:19Speaker 01

  And then I was like, shit. And I go, I don't know where to go. Like, he's like, I mean, he's like, and I don't know why he pulled this school up. He was like, this is a school, it's in North Carolina. It's um, it's in the foothills of the Appalachians. It's like a small picturesque kind of college town. And I was like, alright, I went on a visit and I was like, I don't want to go to school here. Like, I don't want to go to school here. And they were basically like, well, like, tell us where you want to go. I remembered that even though I had the fantasy of the big college experience, I didn't want to stay in Florida. Like, I probably could have gotten into like some big university, but I was like, I don't really want to be in this state anymore. And so I applied and I, they let me in.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  They let me in and I just went, super small, really small college. But as soon as I left, I was like, alright, I'm, I need to go to like a bigger. I went to, to Boston, I did real estate for the summer. Then I went to DC and I worked for America's Most Wanted. And then I went to LA.

• 1:23:18Speaker 00

  Doing what?

• 1:23:19Speaker 01

  I was a researcher. I would research stories for them to do profiles on.

• 1:23:24Speaker 00

  Isn't it, don't we know who's most wanted?

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  Well, when they have to.

• 1:23:30Speaker 00

  What's the research?

• 1:23:31Speaker 01

  There's so many fugitives, but they need it to be a good story because it's television.

• 1:23:36Speaker 00

  So you had to discern if this most wanted person was also wanted by the American public.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  Basically, it's like, who is this person? What's the story behind it? And would this be a compelling story to?

• 1:23:49Speaker 00

  To produce and make TV.

• 1:23:51Speaker 01

  But also like, is the person like? Worthy of a profile on on America's. People get caught from that show all the time. Hundreds. Oh, so it was good, this show. Oh, the show was in the show at one point, they and Fox was like, we're canceling the show. And the backlash was so severe that they're like, we put it back on. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you discover any cases that got solved later? I did. The funny thing is, I had a so I interned there. I got an internship when I was in college. So one summer I interned there and that's how they offered me a job after I graduated. And at one point, I was only there. My first day was September 10, 2001. Okay, so. What happened soon after? Tuesday was kind of wild.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  We just started profiling terrorists. That's a fun pitch on the 12th. I got an idea. Story of a lifetime. We're going to tour of Oregon. It was. It was real crazy, but I did pitch. I had like they would, you know, they would give you like these research documents. And I was like, how about this guy? And it was this guy who had been convicted of some horrible crimes in Costa Rica, American guy. And then he like bribed his way out and they were like, this guy's a this guy's a nightmare. So I pitched the story in like the in the pit there. And, you know, they take it into consideration. And then I had an offer to re up my contract and I said, no, I want to I'm moving to LA. I want to pursue entertainment.

• 1:25:20Speaker 01

  So I moved to LA, but like a month later, they're like, hey, we're going to do that piece that you pitched. Do you want to go on location for it as like an associate producer on it? And I was like, yeah, for sure. So I was able to go to Costa Rica and do the do the piece with them. But it was it was a really chaotic kind of world to dive into these stories. You know, like you see. The eight-minute version of it, when you're like, reading the stuff every day, I mean, it's

• 1:25:55Speaker 00

  gnarly dudes.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  gnarly dudes.

• 1:25:56Speaker 00

  And they caught the guy?

• 1:25:58Speaker 01

  That guy, I don't remember actually if they caught that guy. We caught a number of people even in the short time I was there, but

• 1:26:04Speaker 00

  Is there anybody you caught that you were like, this guy's not that bad, like? You read his stuff and you're like, ah, he's just robbing banks, like, who cares?

• 1:26:12Speaker 01

  There would be things where you were just like, this is not that exciting.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:16Speaker 01

  You're looking for like, exciting. And then, I mean, the show is credited with, with Whitey Bulger, you know?

• 1:26:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, but wasn't Whitey kind of an inside?

• 1:26:25Speaker 01

  Well, there's that whole story, but I'm saying him getting caught?

• 1:26:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Was, is credited to the, to somebody watching the show, because they featured him all the time, all the time.

• 1:26:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, but like, everybody knew Whitey in Boston.

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:37Speaker 00

  It's not like-

• 1:26:38Speaker 03

  Called the FBI director.

• 1:26:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:40Speaker 03

  He's like, oh, he's one of our guys.

• 1:26:41Speaker 00

  Whitey was like, working at a flower shop.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:46Speaker 03

  They all look, they look similar.

• 1:26:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I thought they caught him outside of Boston.

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  They caught him in LA.

• 1:26:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  They got him in Santa Monica.

• 1:26:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:53Speaker 03

  Was it a little sketchy doing these pieces, though? Because these guys have a vested interest in not being caught.

• 1:26:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:58Speaker 03

  You know, and then you are like, a young kid doing like, these investigative pieces. Like, was there ever an internal conversation, like, hey, don't let people know you're working on this, like?

• 1:27:08Speaker 01

  Not really. I mean, the thing is, law enforcement would treat you like you were celebrities. Anytime, you know, like- I got pulled over in DC, and they saw like, my hat, and they were like, you've been drinking. I was like, mm-mm. They're like, is that America's Most Wanted? I was like, yeah, it worked. They're like, oh, that's tight, man. Can I get that hat? I was like, yeah, here you go, man.

• 1:27:30Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:27:30Speaker 01

  They loved, they loved, they loved the show, yeah.

• 1:27:33Speaker 03

  Why? He did uncover also a serial killer.

• 1:27:37Speaker 00

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:27:37Speaker 03

  Part, partially his time during working on the show.

• 1:27:39Speaker 00

  This gives you way more credence when you think about it.

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  He's a journalist.

• 1:27:42Speaker 00

  You're a journalist, especially an investigative journalist with people who do violent crime.

• 1:27:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:47Speaker 00

  Kill people.

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:49Speaker 00

  And one of the things that, one of your side quests in life, as you have many side quests-

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

  Is there is a serial killer on the loose that happens to be tracking Garth Brooks?

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:28:02Speaker 00

  Allegedly.

• 1:28:03Speaker 01

  Allegedly.

• 1:28:04Speaker 00

  We gotta put that out because apparently he's quite litigious, this guy.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  Things can, this guy's got deep pockets too, you gotta remember.

• 1:28:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  You know what's crazy is that like, talking about GB?

• 1:28:18Speaker 01

  He, we talked about just how weird his social media is. That's how this all started. Like, you saw his Facebook.

• 1:28:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  He's doing like Ross. You remember that?

• 1:28:28Speaker 00

  With him and his wife?

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  No, no, when he joins Facebook. Cool stuff.

• 1:28:31Speaker 00

  Can you get that up when he joins?

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  This is, this is how this all started, was just commentary on this guy's, "Hey, I just decided to join Facebook." It's one of the weir- have you seen it? No. It's one of the weirdest things that I've ever seen. He's like, "So, just joined Facebook." And what he says in it, you're like, this is like an alien fucking talking. Are you familiar with Garth Brooks contextually?

• 1:28:57Mark Gagnon?

  Just that he's a country singer.

• 1:28:58Speaker 00

  Country singer.

• 1:28:59Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know what he looks like right now.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Iconic.

• 1:29:01Mark Gagnon?

  I know he's big, yes.

• 1:29:02Speaker 00

  So big that he didn't put his music on Spotify. He was like, "You gotta buy the albums still." I don't know if that's changed.

• 1:29:08Speaker 01

  So he was like, he's like, "You can't get, you, Apple Music." And they're like, "You can't find Garth here." He's like, "My shit's on Amazon and at Walmart." And Facebook. Yeah. And Facebook.

• 1:29:17Mark Gagnon?

  Was he the one who didn't want to put his name on when we?

• 1:29:20Speaker 00

  No, no, no, different one, different.

• 1:29:22Speaker 01

  So this, just so you know, is like the, this is what, the first thing I ever commented on. And this was what he put out. I just thought it was weird, dude.

• 1:29:31Speaker 06

  Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook. I really wasn't sure about this at the start. But then a friend of mine said something that just made all kinds of sense. She said, "Think of it more as a conversation." I like that. But I'm already finding out on my own, that it's wiping the walls out between you and me, and I really like that. It allows us into each other's worlds, or I guess in my case, the hotel room. When I think about things I want to post, I want to post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  Come on, Garth.

• 1:30:05Speaker 06

  The most stuff I'm gonna post is gonna be raw stuff like this. This is just who I am.

• 1:30:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:11Speaker 06

  So if this is truly a conversation, then I say let the conversation begin.

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  All right, that was it.

• 1:30:18Mark Gagnon?

  This is how we think all white people are.

• 1:30:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:20Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:30:21Mark Gagnon?

  This is how we think you guys talk at home.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  I mean, it's so weird.

• 1:30:24Mark Gagnon?

  Cool stuff.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  Like the voice stuff is like, I like that. Like he drops into a different.

• 1:30:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  It's just like, it's awkward.

• 1:30:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:35Speaker 01

  All I did was like say how awkward it was. So I was like, this is fucking first person that time ever seeing a video. Like, it's so strange, you know? We just talked about it. Then he did another like press conference or something. I was like, that was weird as shit, too. Like, I was like, this guy's kind of, there's a thing where somebody gets to a level of fame. Like, you can, you might not realize how famous he is.

• 1:30:57Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, he's number one.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  He's so.

• 1:30:59Speaker 00

  The highest.

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  Stadium.

• 1:31:00Speaker 00

  And also. Selling country artist.

• 1:31:01Mark Gagnon?

  And unbelievably talented.

• 1:31:03Speaker 00

  So talented.

• 1:31:04Mark Gagnon?

  Like, the shows are incredible.

• 1:31:05Speaker 01

  The shows are amazing. And when he, and literally, he'll put a stadium on, like a legit, like where the fucking Giants play. And it sells like you're selling out a club, like they're like, oh, it's sold out. Sold out like that.

• 1:31:17Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  So so, so famous. And I think when you're so, so famous for so long, socially, you become kind of awkward. You've seen it all with Madonna, Michael Jackson, but yeah, you just get weird.

• 1:31:28Speaker 00

  Tom Cruise dancing on the couch.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  It's weird.

• 1:31:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  Yes. So I just kind of was like, this guy's fucking weird, man. You know? And I jokingly said that like, there's missing people. And I don't know, they kind of line up with places he's been.

• 1:31:43Speaker 00

  But was that a joke or has that actually happened?

• 1:31:46Speaker 01

  I mean, I completely just said it as like an alleged silly thing, right?

• 1:31:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  And the funny thing is, you know, from being in this space, that the, like, as people start to give that legs, the easiest way out of it is if you're the person and you want, like, cause they started to like take over his social media, is just to like lean into it or say, acknowledge, just say something, be like, yeah, chopped up some, or like, I'm not a killer, whatever, pick some angle.

• 1:32:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:17Speaker 01

  But like the full ignore makes people get louder and louder.

• 1:32:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:22Speaker 01

  So they just got louder and louder. They took over. He would do a post, there'd be like 5,800 comments all about, I want my grandmother back.

• 1:32:32Speaker 01

  Like crazy, people were just like, I want to see my family again.

• 1:32:39Speaker 01

  They just went crazy with it. And this lasted a while. He shut out, no more comments. No Facebook, you can't comment on his Instagram, on his Facebook, nothing, he just shut it down. And then I was like, wow, this is crazy. And I wasn't like hitting this up every day. It was just something he just kind of threw out there and it took off. Eventually, I met somebody who, whose family member worked closely with him. And they were like, I was like, does he know? And they're like, oh, he, yeah, he fucking knows, dude. He knows you, he knows what you said. I'm like, is he mad? He goes, and Garth doesn't hate, the family said Garth doesn't hate anybody. And I was like, okay.

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  And then they said that he, he said, what, that Garth saw my basketball injury video and said, karma.

• 1:33:35Speaker 01

  But then like, earlier this year, I get a- Just Garth watching the video. Somebody on his team sending it to him, you're gonna love this.

• 1:33:46Speaker 03

  Court's got some slick stuff.

• 1:33:47Speaker 01

  They got this, uh-

• 1:33:50Speaker 01

  This, we get this book at the studio and I'm like, this isn't real. And I flipped through it and then they're like, I see clips of this guy. A guy wrote a book about, is Garth Brooks a serial killer? No. He did a full-

• 1:34:06Speaker 00

  Bodies in Low Places, which is a play on, uh-

• 1:34:09Speaker 01

  Oh, that's his song. That's the only country song I know. Yeah, that's what most people know. But this guy does a full examination.

• 1:34:19Speaker 03

  Two brave journalists dare to expose the music industry's darkest secret.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's so strange. Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer.

• 1:34:28Speaker 01

  Two detectives, one kid, that's awesome. It's just so, it's so silly that, that something that, that literally started as a commentary on that video. I showed you.

• 1:34:37Speaker 03

  Wait, Matt Cox, is that, do you know this guy, Matthew Cox? He's, he's like, uh- I think, yeah, this guy right here.

• 1:34:45Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:34:45Speaker 03

  He's a, he's a big podcaster. He goes on a bunch of podcasts.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:34:49Speaker 03

  And I forget exactly what he did before. He had some type of like criminal past and then like got out of prison, like talks about like his life in crime.

• 1:34:55Speaker 01

  There's a few guys like that.

• 1:34:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:34:57Speaker 01

  It's a good lane.

• 1:34:57Speaker 03

  He's one of those. He's actually really entertaining on pods. I've never met him before, but he's a, that's shocking.

• 1:35:02Speaker 01

  He turned into this shit, dude, yeah.

• 1:35:04Speaker 03

  Bro, you can't have him, you can't have him on the pod. You know, that would just give more, more fodder.

• 1:35:08Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't, I've.

• 1:35:09Speaker 03

  But.

• 1:35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it could be fun. Yeah. I've always, we tried, I tried to get Garth on, cause at one point they reached out and they said, Garth's gonna do some interviews. Would you like him to be on the podcast? I go, fuck it, of course.

• 1:35:22Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 1:35:23Speaker 01

  So they were like, write something that like, that we could show to this, to one of his people. And that's where the book came.

• 1:35:33Speaker 01

  I just write this whole thing about like how I would love to have him on. I'm like, you know, just very much interested in having him on and, you know, interested in his career and all this and that. And then the person that I'm talking to says, well, I had a conversation with their guy, and this is like, how lazy like agents and shit are. The agent told my guy, instead of like confirming, he goes, didn't he say something crazy about Garth? Like instead of like looking.

• 1:36:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was like.

• 1:36:02Speaker 01

  Asked you guys. I feel like that could go wrong for him. Like, I feel like that guy has said something. Like, you just fucking Google it. But eventually they were like, yeah, he's not, he's not coming.

• 1:36:12Speaker 03

  Not happening.

• 1:36:12Speaker 01

  Not happening, no. I think we need to make that happen. Yeah, that would be awesome. How do we get Garth? You have Garth on here and then you just have me walk out. Oh. Hey, partner. America's most wanted cowboy. I can get John Wolf here to be, we've been looking for you.

• 1:36:32Speaker 03

  You are weirdly tuned into internet culture. I remember when I was doing your pod, like.

• 1:36:36Speaker 01

  But is there any, any credence to that?

• 1:36:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, so what?

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  Like if somebody writes a whole book on it, there gotta be some. I haven't read the book, but it's also, it's like, hey, man, weren't you on tour in Lafayette? You know, there's a missing person there. You're like, I mean, yeah. If you tour the country, people are missing around the country, so you could put it to them. Allegedly. Also, it's very.

• 1:36:58Speaker 00

  Reasonable to assume that if you have a stadium full of people, there's a serial killer in there.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Sure. Someone's gonna die after the show, man. It's not crazy.

• 1:37:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're gonna follow you around the country.

• 1:37:08Speaker 01

  Eighty-five thousand people.

• 1:37:09Speaker 00

  More than them.

• 1:37:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, something went wrong.

• 1:37:11Speaker 00

  Definitely killed somebody. No, but what I was saying is when I was in your pod, like, I remember watching this guy, oh my, I'm gonna fuck him, I'm gonna forget his name, but like, I'd always seen you like, connected to like, internet-y stuff. Like, that for guys our age is kind of odd to know, like, deep internet shit.

• 1:37:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:31Speaker 00

  Even when I come into the office and like, the young folks in the office, like, I'll say certain things, they'll kind of laugh at me, like, how the fuck do you know about that? And I'm scrolling while I take a shit, and then I see something. But it was, uh, it was, it was this tailor in Singapore.

• 1:37:48Speaker 01

  Hong Kong.

• 1:37:48Speaker 00

  That, or Hong Kong?

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:50Speaker 00

  I thought it was Singapore. They would like sexually harass the guys that he was making suits for.

• 1:37:54Speaker 01

  He messaged me yesterday, yeah.

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  Okay, after I did your pod and we talked about it, he hit me up.

• 1:37:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:59Speaker 00

  And he's like, dude, we gotta do a suit or something like that. And I was like, I don't know about that. But it's, the guy is hilarious.

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  He's hilarious, yeah.

• 1:38:07Speaker 00

  And I think you know more, like, his father was a very famous tailor or something like that?

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  The place is called Sam's Tailor. And in Hong Kong, Hong Kong has this really interesting history of, well, for many things, but there's, uh, there was obviously a lot of Indian immigrants that came, right? And one of the trades they brought with them was, um, suit making, like, like actually, you know, the clothing and, and so there's parts in Hong Kong that it's just like tailor after tailor, and they're all, a lot of them are Indian, right? Like, Indian immigrants who, who ended up there. And his father's place, where he is now, Sam's Tailor, is like, like, they've dressed, I think the last six US presidents have gotten suits on.

• 1:38:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:38:58Speaker 01

  The walls are adorned, like a lot of this place, with like, just famous soccer players, actors, I mean, like, a lot of people have gone to this place. It's like, super legit. I saw his videos and I was just like, they're hilarious, like, same kind of thing. I'm just like,

• 1:39:12Speaker 00

  You gotta get up a video.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  Playing them.

• 1:39:14Speaker 00

  So this is the, Give an example of it. Scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. So we'll find a good one.

• 1:39:18Speaker 01

  That's how you get into Illuminati, right? Get him with like, a male. Grabs your nuts.

• 1:39:22Speaker 00

  A male and then like, In, in his, in his, uh, office?

• 1:39:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, in, in like the fitting room.

• 1:39:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.

• 1:39:34Speaker 01

  Has he stopped doing this kind of content as much?

• 1:39:36Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:39:39Speaker 00

  Keep going, just have him standing next to like-

• 1:39:41Speaker 01

  Is this his personal account? Or is this Sam's?

• 1:39:43Speaker 00

  That's Sam's Tailor.

• 1:39:44Speaker 01

  It is, it's surprising that there's not more of him. Like that, scroll up, that guy on the left there, that's, that's what he does.

• 1:39:50Speaker 00

  Go.

• 1:39:50Speaker 07

  Young American boy, how old are you? Twenty-one. That young? Are you sure? Yeah. This young American boy is actually Polish? His parents are born in Poland, they immigrated to the United States, and this bastard sold out fucking Lewandowski and Europe to be part of fucking Trump's ICE regime.

• 1:40:15Speaker 01

  Oh, shit.

• 1:40:16Speaker 07

  Fucking cunt, fucking sold out to Trump, you know what I mean? I don't even understand, who does this in this world? You know Trump is bombing Iran, destroying fucking everybody? Bastard, you have Lewandowski, you know, do you know who is Lewandowski? Who's Lewandowski? Who is? USC has the World Cup, bastard doesn't know who is Lewandowski?

• 1:40:38Speaker 01

  You pay for this shit, son, it's insanity. I would hate this.

• 1:40:43Speaker 07

  Yeah. Smells like a Yang disgusting fucking bombing pig.

• 1:40:49Speaker 07

  No accent, maybe accent color, cannot decide accent color, cannot decide USC or Poland. Barca, the first pocket with a curve and kick, there is the peak of my pocket.

• 1:40:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, that kid's like, what the fuck now?

• 1:41:01Speaker 07

  Fully lined, your face is burning, huh? Overlapping buttons on it, fully functioned, even porky pig here, Jesus fucking Christ. Porky pig is absolute. Ooh, porky pig is absolutely gift wrapped in my four-deep. Let me give you one thing, he may be porky, but he's got his own fucking Chinese gift here. Motherfucker from China, picks up a Chinese gift as well. Okay, let's see, let's open him up.

• 1:41:30Speaker 01

  That jaw is swollen dude.

• 1:41:33Speaker 07

  Glory of the inside, lovely. I mean, in the shirt, see you, wow, look at the spongeness. And let's sit him around.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  The spongeness.

• 1:41:42Speaker 07

  And as you can see, no matter how porky you are, no matter how, he's shivering now. No matter how non-poll you are, whoever you are, I will absolutely gift wrap you. Absolutely gift wrap.

• 1:41:55Speaker 01

  How would you, how would you do at that, do you think?

• 1:41:58Speaker 07

  No matter how hard I go, this guy's so strong in the glutes.

• 1:42:01Speaker 01

  This is nuts.

• 1:42:02Speaker 07

  Chinese massage, no effect on him.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  Pause.

• 1:42:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, how, how would you react to this type of Taylor?

• 1:42:09Speaker 01

  I mean, it wouldn't get that far.

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:12Speaker 01

  You pay for this? Well, no, well, sorta. Yo, give me a thousand dollars, I'll insult you and smack the shit out of you. He doesn't do it, he doesn't do it the same to everybody, it's not the same treatment to everybody. So some of them, he just sexually harasses.

• 1:42:25Speaker 00

  You gotta get the little Asian, find him with a little Asian, he goes.

• 1:42:28Speaker 01

  He was really aggressive with, he's not, he's, always has aggressive energy.

• 1:42:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:32Speaker 01

  It's not like always face smacks and like insults. Sometimes he's just like, like overly effusive with like, like compliments, but he's just like really.

• 1:42:42Speaker 00

  Sexually.

• 1:42:42Speaker 01

  He's a Taylor, so he does custom work, you know what I mean? Whoever you are, you're getting a custom treatment. Yeah, that was, um, that was pretty, that was a lot, that was a lot.

• 1:42:50Speaker 00

  That was insane.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was really great. It was crazy.

• 1:42:53Speaker 00

  Right here, let's see it.

• 1:42:54Speaker 07

  You said, what you got, brother, I'll, I'll start. Single button, a glorious pearl button, a deep prestige on a peak lapel, check out. What has he got? He's got my Richie Platsman, the Imagine Dragons, packed pockets, one, two, three. Last time he said, I was a coffee cat, nonsense.

• 1:43:13Speaker 01

  Think this is son.

• 1:43:15Speaker 00

  Oh, okay, so it's not gonna happen here.

• 1:43:17Speaker 01

  He changed up the energy a little bit. Yeah, yeah, different energy for his son.

• 1:43:20Speaker 07

  Anyway, I see.

• 1:43:21Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:43:22Speaker 00

  But I see you like finding these like weird characters on the internet.

• 1:43:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that's been like my fascination for, you know, we started our podcast in 2010.

• 1:43:32Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:43:32Speaker 01

  Wow. So like it it really did become from like you see a weird or funny or crazy thing and being like, yes, I want to, I want to talk about that. I want to play that. I want to dissect that. And sometimes I want to find that because that became what it became was like, first we would just laugh, talk about it, have people like you where you go, let's, let's comment on this.

• 1:43:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  And then this whole thing became like, oh, can we find this person?

• 1:43:57Speaker 00

  It became big enough where.

• 1:43:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could be like, they want to come on.

• 1:44:00Speaker 00

  This person.

• 1:44:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And that became a fun thing of like, we've found numerous people that a lot of times you see a video and you're like, I don't know, this isn't like this person has a business and everything. But sometimes it's like just some random dude in the video has like eight views. And you start talking about it and then all of a sudden, one of your fans is like, you know, that guy's in Highland Park. I know that guy. And you're like, what? And then you kind of try to connect and sometimes you zoom. Sometimes we had people come in, but it's always been like an exciting thing to break down, like who these people are.

• 1:44:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:33Speaker 00

  I mean, you kind of discovered Andrew Tate that way.

• 1:44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:37Speaker 00

  Infamously.

• 1:44:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, you really put Tate on, dude. So funny. People have been saying that to me since, but he was for us. Hold on, can I pee real quick and then we talk about?

• 1:44:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

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• 1:45:31Speaker 03

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• 1:49:53Speaker 03

  Speaking of bricks.

• 1:49:54Speaker 00

  Yo, yo, don't do that. Don't fucking do that.

• 1:49:58Speaker 03

  Speaking of the Hawks, bro.

• 1:49:59Speaker 00

  Nah, you talking crazy shit right now.

• 1:50:01Speaker 03

  The Atlanta Hawks, bro.

• 1:50:02Speaker 00

  Nah, nah. Shout out my boy, Mikal Bridges. Listen, I thought it was a good shot. I thought he had a good shot.

• 1:50:09Speaker 03

  I thought it was pretty good.

• 1:50:12Speaker 03

  He tried his best and that's all you can ask for. He was the best on his team in high school.

• 1:50:16Speaker 00

  What type of shot he took?

• 1:50:17Speaker 03

  Free throw.

• 1:50:18Speaker 00

  Why your sneakers so red? Why you got the Atlanta Hawks sneakers? Why you got the Atlanta Hawks vans, huh?

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  Nah, nah, nah. I'm not a Hawks fan. I like Trey Young, but that's the extent of it. Does he play for that?

• 1:50:30Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:50:30Speaker 03

  Fuck. Didn't this happen two years ago?

• 1:50:34Speaker 00

  You are getting soft, yo. You would never tolerate shit like this back in the day. He got a nice fit, so that's why. He gets fascinated. He actually put it together really nice.

• 1:50:45Speaker 00

  Give him that. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm not giving him shit.

• 1:50:48Speaker 03

  He's wearing the nighttime version of my fit. That's all it is.

• 1:50:50Speaker 00

  See, why you gotta mess it up?

• 1:50:52Speaker 03

  What? You're biting my whole neck.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  See, fuck this thing.

• 1:50:57Speaker 00

  I tried, I tried.

• 1:50:58Speaker 03

  So what happened with your Knicks, bro? What happened?

• 1:51:00Speaker 00

  Yo, Knicks are taking it. Knicks in five. That's it. And I don't want to hear anything about it. What's the odds we got right now in Cali for Knicks in five? 66% and going down. Damn.

• 1:51:16Speaker 00

  There's a million dollars in volume put on this right now. Knicks in five. I'm be honest with you. That's easy. If I'm being completely honest with you, I'm going, I'm probably going Knicks in six. Come on. I wanna have delusional confidence, but it's eroded, you know, after years of torments. Okay. So I'm gonna be safe and go Knicks in six. What do we have Knicks in six?

• 1:51:39Speaker 03

  This is just the whole.

• 1:51:40Speaker 00

  Is that your tummy that just did that sound?

• 1:51:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:51:42Speaker 00

  Yo. Yo. That was insane. I thought your cellphone was buzzing. Did you pick that up? I got a call from my tummy, bro. I was like, yo, the subway was coming through. I never heard nobody's stomach.

• 1:51:57Speaker 03

  What was that?

• 1:51:58Speaker 00

  That was the first time I ever heard anyone's stomach besides my wife with the children. I'm being dead serious. I always thought hearing your stomach is only you could do it.

• 1:52:08Speaker 03

  Anyone can do it.

• 1:52:10Speaker 00

  Nah. That's how you know, that's how you know Mark's fasting again. Are you back to fasting?

• 1:52:14Speaker 03

  I had three eggs this morning. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.

• 1:52:16Speaker 00

  How'd you have them done?

• 1:52:18Speaker 03

  Scrambled. I always go scrambled. With a little butter mixed in. Cottage cheese, ever do that? Besides the point, I don't know what's going on.

• 1:52:25Speaker 00

  Nixon seven, fuck it.

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  Yo chill.

• 1:52:28Speaker 00

  Nah nah, Nixon six, what are we at? It's the same, it's, this is. Sixty-five percent.

• 1:52:34Speaker 03

  This is just that they win.

• 1:52:35Speaker 00

  Oh, this is they win?

• 1:52:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:36Speaker 00

  Series. Oh, well shit, well Knicks definitely winning.

• 1:52:39Speaker 03

  Did it just go down while we were talking about it?

• 1:52:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, yeah, cuz you.

• 1:52:42Speaker 03

  It's my.

• 1:52:43Speaker 00

  You got that juju.

• 1:52:44Speaker 03

  The oracle in here?

• 1:52:45Speaker 00

  Something happened, bro. I've never heard a stomach ache that sound.

• 1:52:48Speaker 03

  Wish.

• 1:52:48Speaker 00

  No bullshit, I would do that. I'm worried about what's gonna come out.

• 1:52:52Speaker 03

  Oh, you'll see.

• 1:52:53Speaker 00

  Is that sound gonna come out of your mouth and your ass? That sound doesn't stay.

• 1:52:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know what that was.

• 1:52:59Speaker 00

  It's gotta be some sort of like, uh, cancer.

• 1:53:02Speaker 03

  Must be. My biological age just went up a little bit from that. Every rumble goes up.

• 1:53:07Speaker 00

  That was the loudest stomach I've ever heard.

• 1:53:09Speaker 03

  Can we see what the Magic odds are? Let's see, I bet you the Magic got it. I bet you the Magic are gonna win the whole series. Here we go. Magic in versus Detroit, let's go, okay.

• 1:53:20Speaker 03

  It's a minor step back from a major comeback. Orlando's leading one-nothing. Damn. That's all I'm saying.

• 1:53:27Speaker 00

  Bro.

• 1:53:27Speaker 03

  Yo, they won and they still. What was it before the game, it was zero? That's great. What the hell?

• 1:53:34Speaker 00

  Six hundred fifty thousand dollars worth of all your little broke ass cities.

• 1:53:40Speaker 00

  Tell them to put their money up, yeah. Tell them to put their fucking money up.

• 1:53:43Speaker 03

  You put money up on the Knicks.

• 1:53:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, little broke ass city.

• 1:53:45Speaker 03

  How much are y'all putting on the Knicks? Yo.

• 1:53:47Speaker 00

  I put some up.

• 1:53:47Speaker 03

  How much?

• 1:53:48Speaker 00

  I put, I put it up. Did you guys just hear my tummy?

• 1:53:52Speaker 03

  Well, should we connect?

• 1:53:53Speaker 00

  You didn't hear it, right? I don't think that my stomach. Your sound goes out to everyone else.

• 1:53:56Speaker 03

  Tummy.

• 1:53:57Speaker 00

  Did you hear my tummy? I got two kids.

• 1:53:59Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, okay.

• 1:54:00Speaker 00

  You got a tummy, you little child.

• 1:54:05Speaker 00

  I just farted and that I I literally heard it here and then it came out.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  It went all the way through.

• 1:54:10Speaker 00

  Guys, I don't think you can hear my stomach sound.

• 1:54:13Speaker 01

  I heard a little.

• 1:54:14Speaker 00

  Have you has anybody ever heard your stomach?

• 1:54:16Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 1:54:16Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:54:17Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:54:18Speaker 00

  Nixon six, but in all seriousness, Nixon six, Al, in all seriousness, Nixon six. Okay, shout out you and your stomach.

• 1:54:25Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:54:25Speaker 00

  We know what's in there.

• 1:54:26Speaker 01

  Nixon.

• 1:54:26Speaker 00

  Your stomach's got so many, it looks like the chair from Game of Thrones, but made out of dicks in your stomach.

• 1:54:32Speaker 01

  Game of bones?

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  There you go. Yeah, that's what it looks like, Al. He's got so many relics of dicks in there.

• 1:54:39Speaker 01

  We all shoot.

• 1:54:42Speaker 00

  You know who?

• 1:54:45Speaker 00

  All right, let's get back to the show.

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• 1:55:16Speaker 01

  I'm all about like cheering and like booing and that call sucks, but like when you start like yelling crazy shit to somebody. Personal stuff, you're like, fuck you doing, man?

• 1:55:26Speaker 00

  My, my favorite thing to do is just is butter up the refs.

• 1:55:30Speaker 01

  You talk to the refs?

• 1:55:30Speaker 00

  Oh, all day.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  That's a great call.

• 1:55:32Speaker 00

  They got numbers and I'm, I'm like, yo, fantastic call, ref. And I butter them up.

• 1:55:37Speaker 01

  Look at this American boy.

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  Beautiful strike. Do they give you a look?

• 1:55:43Speaker 00

  Oh, of course. Yeah, like, you know.

• 1:55:45Speaker 01

  That was a charge. That was a good charge.

• 1:55:47Speaker 00

  It was, and not a lot of guys saw it. Those other two guys didn't see it. You're seeing everything. I'm leaning, I go hard on the refs.

• 1:55:54Speaker 01

  He's feeling himself.

• 1:55:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's okay. You can miss one. Everybody misses one, but I butter up hard. Like, that's how I feel like I'm helping the Knicks.

• 1:56:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that, that, um, because nobody is more entertaining than Garnett in this post-playing world. Like, his storytelling, everything is just fucking unbelievable.

• 1:56:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:13Speaker 01

  But he was doing, he was, there was a montage about, he was saying what the old refs were like. I don't know if you've seen it. It's unbelievable.

• 1:56:19Speaker 00

  Get it, I'm joking.

• 1:56:21Speaker 01

  He's talking about how today's refs versus the other, he's like-

• 1:56:25Speaker 00

  Dick Bavetta or whatever?

• 1:56:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's like, those refs would be like, "You fucking bitch."

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:56:29Speaker 01

  And like, he would, they would like literally call the players out, call them names.

• 1:56:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:35Speaker 01

  Like, just, he's like, it's a completely different world, but like, in his style and story, I mean, he's so fucking entertaining.

• 1:56:42Speaker 00

  He, him and Paul Pierce?

• 1:56:43Speaker 01

  It's, the dynamic is just-

• 1:56:45Speaker 00

  They kind of were podcasters.

• 1:56:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:47Speaker 00

  Like, they have this, like, they're way too famous to be talking and sharing the opinions.

• 1:56:52Speaker 01

  You saw his JR writer MJ story?

• 1:56:54Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:56:55Speaker 01

  Kevin Garnett's? Oh my god, dude. That is about when he talked shit to MJ?

• 1:56:59Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have seen it. I've heard different versions of this. Which, some of this could be complete fabrication.

• 1:57:06Speaker 01

  But that story, it lines up with the video. Like, like, everything about that story is about-

• 1:57:11Speaker 00

  You'll see it.

• 1:57:12Speaker 01

  You see that he says some shit-

• 1:57:15Speaker 00

  Hold on, get that one up as well. Wait, should we watch that one or this? Do the old school rest one first, and then look up the other one while you get that. So this is Kevin Garnett talking about JR, but play this one.

• 1:57:24Speaker 08

  Man, old school refs just talk crazy to you, dude. They used to talk to guys like they could fight. Like, Mike Mathews would be like, "Ay, it ain't a foul." And I said, "You know what, man? It's a foul." So he keep talking that shit. "You wanna play tonight?" Like, you'd be like, "Oh, shit." Like, straight up. And Steve Johnson would look at you and be like, "I wish you would." Like, I mean, get up and, "I wish you'd look at me, bitch."

• 1:57:45Speaker 08

  I'm looking at you. And then the real cats in the league like Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Jimmy Payton, Michael Jordan. They used to talk crazy back to these motherfuckers. Yeah, bitch, I'm looking at you. Right. What you looking at? I'm looking at you. I'm like, damn, Javi, you, you good? Yeah, I'm good. Ah, throw that motherfucker out. I'm like, oh.

• 1:58:06Speaker 08

  What? I'm like, man, they turned into some real shit. Oh, it got real out here.

• 1:58:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, plus, it's a diff- it's a different world now. Wow.

• 1:58:12Speaker 00

  It, it, I think there's too many cameras now.

• 1:58:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. You pick up everything.

• 1:58:16Speaker 00

  You could pick up everything.

• 1:58:17Speaker 01

  Players are mic'd up randomly. They have to do all the time.

• 1:58:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Where back in the day, I don't remember a single like lip reading video that came out.

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  It never came up.

• 1:58:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:24Speaker 01

  Nobody ever brought that shit up.

• 1:58:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:26Speaker 01

  You just see the fucking action, yeah.

• 1:58:27Speaker 00

  You almost kind of, you want a little bit of the anonymity.

• 1:58:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:58:31Speaker 00

  You want a little bit of the mystery, like, maybe we don't need all these fucking cameras.

• 1:58:35Speaker 01

  Cameras are fucking.

• 1:58:36Speaker 00

  It's fucking it up. Cause you want them to act in a way where they, they're not being observed.

• 1:58:41Speaker 01

  And they're all mic'd up too. So it's like cameras and mics.

• 1:58:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:44Speaker 01

  But this, I don't know if the, if this, um, just to give, what, if it's not set up correctly.

• 1:58:50Speaker 00

  Give me context.

• 1:58:51Speaker 01

  Garnett is on the Timberwolves.

• 1:58:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:53Speaker 01

  And JR Rider is too. Garth- Mike has like a, like a okay, let's say, have a okay game or third quarter.

• 1:59:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:59:01Speaker 01

  And Garnett says to him, I guess, I guess it ain't just like, it ain't dropping today, Mike. Like, yeah, JR, keep doing your shit. Like, keep, keep on him. And there, there's like a break, an act, like a timeout. And JR is like, shut the fuck up.

• 1:59:14Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:59:16Speaker 01

  Like, you don't do that. And, and even JR goes over to Mike, he's like, hey, Mike.

• 1:59:22Speaker 01

  He's a rookie, man.

• 1:59:23Speaker 00

  He don't know better.

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  He don't know. And, but like, I, I just don't know how much of a setup is in this.

• 1:59:28Speaker 08

  Jay's story. We in Chicago, you know, it's my rookie year. JR is having a good game. So as we come out the timeout, just, I was just like, yo, keep, yo, keep killing that [BLEEP]. Killing that [BLEEP] right here. And Mike, can you hear me? [BLEEP] stay underneath about 15 seconds. So now MJ on the back leg joint, you know, he's leaning on it. I can't even really describe the next like six to seven minutes of play, yo. We get two, not one, two 10 second calls. We down 25 now. It was just at two. Mike had 18, he had like 40. JR, myself, we ain't scoring like about four minutes. And I subbed like three of the starters. I was like, JR, remember my best.

• 2:00:10Speaker 08

  It's cool, man. I told you, just shut your [BEEP] up. It got bad quick.

• 2:00:17Speaker 00

  There's also a little backstory here, because when JR Ryder was coming in the league, there was talks about him being like the next MJ.

• 2:00:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:00:24Speaker 00

  And MJ don't like that.

• 2:00:25Speaker 01

  He doesn't like any of that.

• 2:00:26Speaker 00

  Ain't no next MJ.

• 2:00:27Speaker 03

  What happened to JR Ryder?

• 2:00:29Speaker 00

  What happened to all the next MJ's, man?

• 2:00:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:31Speaker 03

  I mean, he had a good kid, a good career.

• 2:00:32Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had a good career.

• 2:00:34Speaker 01

  But yeah, no, no one's the next MJ.

• 2:00:36Speaker 03

  Damn. Okay, can you tell us a Tate story?

• 2:00:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:00:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:40Speaker 01

  So, so the way, it's like the same way we were looking at those Sam's Tailor videos.

• 2:00:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:00:45Speaker 01

  Of, what is it, Roshan, I think is his name? We, Tate, the way that Tate actually first became a thing was like these clips where he was sort of misogynistic and rude, but it felt very performative.

• 2:01:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was like a character.

• 2:01:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you could see it. He was like, when a woman like brings me coffee in the morning, she should bring me two cups of coffee. Like, if one isn't warm enough for like, if I finish it, I want my second one there. And we were like, this is fucking ridiculous. You know, or when they say like, do you want still or sparkling water? I always drink sparkling water. Still water's for poor people. So we would play this and like comment, the same way we comment on the Taylor clips, you know? I remember he had one, he was like, something about paying, and he was like, yeah, I always, I bring out my card because it never gets denied. And then people were like, you mean overdraft protection? We would just kind of roast him and play this very silly thing that I was like, yeah,

• 2:01:46Speaker 01

  this guy's saying this thing that has like his, an angle to it, but this feels like

• 2:01:50Speaker 03

  shtick.

• 2:01:51Speaker 01

  Deliberate. Yeah, there's a performative aspect to it. So somehow, some way, I don't remember like the thing, it was like he was coming to the States and he was like, agreed to come on. I was like, that guy? Dude, that's amazing. So he came on and he was... An A-level guest.

• 2:02:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I remember the, I remember even Christina being kind of charmed by it.

• 2:02:14Speaker 01

  Dude, we were like, I remember at one point, he was, cause he was saying all this stuff. He was like, dude, this one was one thing he said, and people were like, wouldn't you get bored of a woman that just does everything you say? Like, he asked, he was a rhetorical question, and he was like, I'm like, bitch. Of course I'm not gonna get, I had a coffee, but I spit my coffee everywhere. And she was laughing hysterically.

• 2:02:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:02:40Speaker 01

  And, and we left there, first of all, he was like, such a gentleman.

• 2:02:45Speaker 00

  Sweetheart, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:02:46Speaker 01

  You're like, oh, like, you're a smart guy, and this is your thing.

• 2:02:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're also looking at through comedian lenses, where we've seen archetypes like this pass through.

• 2:02:54Speaker 01

  A thousand percent.

• 2:02:54Speaker 00

  And it's like, okay, this is another internet personality, and there's a little shtick there.

• 2:02:58Speaker 01

  And, and, and you, and you actually go like, I've seen this archetype, and this is a very refined version of this, because he actually would dance between exaggeration and like, pure, like, well-formed logic.

• 2:03:11Speaker 00

  Philosophy, yeah.

• 2:03:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, very philosophical, very articulate.

• 2:03:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:14Speaker 01

  We're like, this guy's a great guest. Several months later, where it's like, his name and everything starts like, getting bigger, and then people are saying all these things about him.

• 2:03:26Speaker 00

  You make him a star.

• 2:03:26Speaker 01

  I make him a star. It's my birthday, and I'm doing this, this show in Chicago, and it's on my birthday, and I did not know that they had put together a montage of people saying happy, so I finished my show, they wheel out a cake, and they have the screen, and it's just like, comedians, it's just like, you know, Bert, and Sebastian, and Joe, like, everyone would be like, happy birthday, happy birthday. It just cuts to fucking him, and he's saying happy birthday.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  And it's the day after he's accused of like trafficking. Right? And I'm, I'm again drinking, I think I'm drinking like a beer and I'm like, and I'm like, guys, like he's fucking, he's wanted.

• 2:04:17Speaker 01

  And then, and everybody after them was like, yes, you put him on, you platformed him. And I was like, yeah, we had him on as like a entertaining guest, you know? And he was super nice and like, and he was very funny on the show.

• 2:04:28Speaker 00

  Sometimes it goes wrong when you have entertaining guests on the pod.

• 2:04:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:32Speaker 00

  I mean, we would know nothing about that at all, but.

• 2:04:35Speaker 01

  No, you've never had somebody come on that something happened later.

• 2:04:40Speaker 00

  Has he reached out to you? Has he like, have you talked to him at all?

• 2:04:42Speaker 01

  He emailed, we emailed a couple of times. He was like doing, uh, he was like, I'm coming to do another American tour or whatever. It was well after, but that just, I don't think he ever came or anything. It was, but it was a perfectly polite, um.

• 2:04:57Speaker 00

  Exchange.

• 2:04:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was totally normal.

• 2:04:59Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:05:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, it was crazy.

• 2:05:03Speaker 00

  Was there anybody that you saw that you were like, this guy's so entertaining, but I don't know, something's weird and then?

• 2:05:10Speaker 01

  All the time. Well, I mean, just like a lot of times.

• 2:05:14Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 2:05:14Speaker 01

  GB.

• 2:05:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, GB.

• 2:05:17Speaker 01

  Well, there's just times where you go, cause you, you learn this thing of like, I'll play a video of somebody.

• 2:05:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:05:24Speaker 01

  And then you go like, should I have this person in studio? You know, like even the ones that you go, how, just like, is this person the stable?

• 2:05:34Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:05:35Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:05:35Speaker 00

  That's.

• 2:05:36Speaker 01

  Like, we had this one guy who was, he always, he had, he was just like, you know, sucking on your friend's nipples isn't gay. It's what the Spartans used to do. And we're like, what? And, and he had like all these just crazy things, like you should cup your friend's balls. Like that's how, that's actually the straightest thing you can do. Like all these types of things. We were like, what? And so we were like, should we have him in? We had him in. He was like, can I, can I just be nude during this interview? And I was like, no. I was like, there's women here. Like, you can't, no. So he did it in his underwear, you know, like one of those things. But then you kind of go, you're talking to him, you're like, this is perfectly nice guy.

• 2:06:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:12Speaker 01

  You know, he's a little out there. But some of them, you go like, I don't know if this is like an unhinged person.

• 2:06:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:19Speaker 01

  So you start to develop a sense of like,

• 2:06:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:22Speaker 01

  who can.

• 2:06:23Speaker 00

  You have to fall apart like in the DM. Like, you respond to a funny video and some guy hits you up like angry, or he's like pissed, he wants money, like.

• 2:06:31Speaker 01

  All the time.

• 2:06:31Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:06:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:32Speaker 00

  How do you deal with that?

• 2:06:33Speaker 01

  I mean, I've just had, there's, the one thing is like, I guess, I don't know, like, we just play these clips. And it's like, someone's like, you played my clip, I made that clip. And you're like, alright.

• 2:06:43Speaker 00

  It's a weird thing, because you're reacting to the internet, and we do it here too, because it's just a fascinating thing on the internet.

• 2:06:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  And then some of these people on the internet are absolutely fucking batshit crazy.

• 2:06:55Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 2:06:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:57Speaker 01

  They're crazy.

• 2:06:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:59Speaker 01

  They're crazy. And I think most of the time, you ignore.

• 2:07:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:03Speaker 01

  I mean, some people have gone so far as to like, send documents, you know, wanting something, and I'm just like,

• 2:07:08Speaker 00

  cease and desist.

• 2:07:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, fucking whatever dude, I'll give the document to my lawyer. Go ahead, deal with him. I mean, I'm not, you know, they make their case of like, why we shouldn't play it. I'm like, we won't play it again. You're not that fucking fascinating, dude.

• 2:07:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:22Speaker 01

  Like, it was a funny clip, you know?

• 2:07:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:24Speaker 01

  But most of the time, people are, usually people are excited.

• 2:07:28Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:07:28Speaker 01

  They go, you played me, you know?

• 2:07:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:30Speaker 01

  On my clip.

• 2:07:31Speaker 00

  And that probably makes their whole life, right? Like, some like, small creator always thinks it's going to go on a huge show.

• 2:07:36Speaker 01

  I think they get, yeah, most of them see the upside to it of like, oh, you widened my fanbase, you know? You got more eyeballs on me, yeah.

• 2:07:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, you stretched out this moment.

• 2:07:45Speaker 01

  You know what I ask you?

• 2:07:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:46Speaker 01

  You, I, I, because every time I go on tour, I feel like I learned from the last tour.

• 2:07:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:07:51Speaker 01

  And I want to compress, reduce what I do. You don't do a crazy amount of dates, right?

• 2:07:57Speaker 00

  It depends. Like, I, I don't do like the long stretch. So I do like a weekend warrior thing.

• 2:08:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:08:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:03Speaker 01

  But you, you don't extend that like forever.

• 2:08:05Speaker 00

  I did the last one probably, I don't know, we did like two years, maybe?

• 2:08:09Speaker 01

  Oh, you did?

• 2:08:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:10Speaker 01

  But it was Thursday to Sunday kind of?

• 2:08:11Speaker 00

  Friday, Saturday.

• 2:08:12Speaker 01

  Friday, Saturday only.

• 2:08:13Speaker 00

  Maybe a Sunday.

• 2:08:14Speaker 01

  Is like, pretty, that's better for life.

• 2:08:17Speaker 00

  That's the thing. Like, I just had a kid and like, My wife got pregnant again, so we just had another one.

• 2:08:23Speaker 01

  Congratulations.

• 2:08:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, I wanted to, I wanted to be home as much as possible.

• 2:08:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:08:28Speaker 00

  You know, but also like get out there and do it. But that's the tricky, that's the balance.

• 2:08:32Speaker 01

  And did you road dog it a lot in the early days or no?

• 2:08:34Speaker 00

  All the time.

• 2:08:35Speaker 01

  You did?

• 2:08:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:08:36Speaker 01

  Cause I didn't know if you were just like New York, New York, every.

• 2:08:38Speaker 00

  No, like I pretty early started getting out on the road.

• 2:08:41Speaker 01

  Oh, you did?

• 2:08:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was out on the road pretty early.

• 2:08:43Speaker 01

  Opening for people?

• 2:08:44Speaker 00

  I never got that experience.

• 2:08:46Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:08:46Speaker 00

  I never got that opportunity. Yeah.

• 2:08:48Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:08:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. So like I kinda just kinda went out. I got some MTV, you know, luck and then uh, did some shows there and then like I would do the weekends. I would do the club weekends.

• 2:08:58Speaker 01

  You're headlining?

• 2:08:59Speaker 00

  Headlining, yeah.

• 2:08:59Speaker 01

  Out of the gate?

• 2:09:00Speaker 00

  Not out of the gate. I mean, years in, I developed an hour, like the shitty, you know, one nighter type of things. And then, once I got into the, once I got to be able to do the clubs where they could kinda paper the room.

• 2:09:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:11Speaker 00

  Like I was on TV and I couldn't really draw, but it was enough where you could paper it.

• 2:09:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know what you mean.

• 2:09:18Speaker 00

  Papered a room for anybody watching is basically like the club will give out free tickets and like, basically they won't sell drinks.

• 2:09:24Speaker 01

  And they're like, it wasn't you.

• 2:09:25Speaker 00

  Exactly. But like, maybe you get to a point where like, there's a little of you.

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  Exactly. It's a slow kinda, yeah.

• 2:09:32Speaker 00

  And I remember doing that and then, I remember once I started putting out some standup, I was able to like fill the rooms now. And then, I did another round where I filled them and they were paying.

• 2:09:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:45Speaker 00

  And then I think I did another round where they were paying, but I was still on like the shitty door deal, not even door deal, the shitty like guarantee.

• 2:09:54Speaker 01

  Guarantee you get $200 bonus. You sold it out. Thanks.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  You sell out, yeah, I remember there was clubs that would give me more than the bonus sometimes. And I was so stoked. I was like, what? I get more than the bonus? And it was like, they felt so bad.

• 2:10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:07Speaker 00

  That I was getting 1,500 bucks a weekend or 2,000 bucks a weekend and it was like five sold out shows.

• 2:10:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:12Speaker 00

  They're like, we gotta give them something.

• 2:10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would, I would muscle them for more.

• 2:10:16Speaker 00

  Tell me.

• 2:10:16Speaker 01

  I would go into that thing and I was like, I sold this shit out. And they're like, I know, but your deal is this. And I was like, do you want me to come back here?

• 2:10:22Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 2:10:23Speaker 01

  They're like, yeah. I'm like, you know what to do, man.

• 2:10:26Speaker 00

  That is fucking ballsy. I was, I was always so like grateful to have the weekend. And it wasn't until like the second time around where I sold them out, where I was like, let's do a door deal. And that got aggressive.

• 2:10:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:39Speaker 00

  Then I was like, hey, if we're bringing it all in.

• 2:10:41Speaker 01

  There's a guy who even gave me, he goes, This is a lot, so like, it's all, it's a process.

• 2:10:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:48Speaker 01

  I was like, set, like, when it was clear that I was selling them out.

• 2:10:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:51Speaker 01

  This guy was like, "I'll offer you X amount," which was a good amount of money, guaranteed. And I was like, "I don't want the guarantee. I want the door."

• 2:11:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:01Speaker 01

  And he was like, "But this guarantee is awesome." I go, "Yeah, it's not as much as the door."

• 2:11:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:05Speaker 01

  And he was like, "Right, but the guarantee's pretty solid." And I was like, "What are we, what are we missing here?"

• 2:11:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:11:12Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, I want the fucking deal of the door.

• 2:11:15Speaker 00

  I think I can get those people in.

• 2:11:17Speaker 01

  And he's just like, "This is fucking crazy." I was like, "No, it's not."

• 2:11:20Speaker 00

  So you were asking this early? You were asking for the-

• 2:11:22Speaker 01

  Well, once, like, I just understood the business so well so early. I knew exactly how things worked.

• 2:11:27Speaker 00

  But was that not how comics were doing it back in the day? Were they just taking guarantees?

• 2:11:31Speaker 01

  Well, it really depended on the power of your draw. So like, there was people who, like, there's, I don't want to tell anyone's business, but there's comics who are pretty good draws that don't want to have to worry about

• 2:11:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:45Speaker 01

  the degree of it. So they'll just go, "I'll take, I want the guarantee."

• 2:11:48Speaker 00

  Give me that.

• 2:11:49Speaker 01

  "I can just, I don't have to think about it. You fucking do the work." And once you're selling tickets, you kind of just figure out what works. If you're like, I, like, with almost certainty, I know this is gonna sell.

• 2:12:02Speaker 00

  Let's take the door.

• 2:12:02Speaker 01

  Percentage deals are just better.

• 2:12:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:04Speaker 01

  They're just better.

• 2:12:05Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 2:12:05Speaker 01

  So I would just like, be like, "No, I want that, dude. I know it's better."

• 2:12:09Speaker 00

  I had to like, push an agent of mine back in the day for it.

• 2:12:12Speaker 01

  Same.

• 2:12:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, and he was like, amazing agent, love him, and like, he was, actually, yeah, he was great. And, uh, but part of what made him so great was that he had these amazing relationships with the clubs.

• 2:12:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:12:25Speaker 00

  So he could get a no-name comedian into a club.

• 2:12:28Speaker 01

  I know exactly what you mean.

• 2:12:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but the problem is, like, when you get to a point where you're like, okay, like, I've gone two times in the club and they've made tons of money and we drew. I think it's time that, you know, now I get whatever my fair share is here. And, uh, it took me kind of like muscling him.

• 2:12:44Speaker 03

  It does.

• 2:12:45Speaker 01

  It does.

• 2:12:45Speaker 03

  And the clubs try to be sneaky. I had a friend just recently, you know him, that had a sellout bonus structure. And it was a substantial bonus. And he gets to the payout and like they're doing the settle up and they're like, yeah, you were two tickets short.

• 2:13:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a cool move.

• 2:13:01Speaker 03

  And he was like, two tickets short? He said it was sold out.

• 2:13:02Speaker 01

  I'll buy those tickets.

• 2:13:03Speaker 03

  Right before, you know, two people refunded their tickets. Like at minutes before the show. And he was like, this is insane. And he had to call his agent up to be like, what are you guys doing?

• 2:13:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, what are you doing?

• 2:13:12Speaker 03

  But stiffing him out of like a substantial amount of money for like a young comic.

• 2:13:15Speaker 01

  I had a guy, I had a guy who goes, uh, he owned the club. He was a knucklehead. He was a, but sweetheart, but he was a total fucking mess.

• 2:13:24Speaker 03

  Can you give me a state?

• 2:13:26Speaker 01

  And he's like, he goes, hey, uh, we had a hundred percent door deal. It was a hundred percent of the door.

• 2:13:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:33Speaker 01

  He was like, great weekend. It's at the end of the week. He's like, it's great weekend. He goes, can you guess how much you made? And I go, no, I could tell you what I made. He's like, what do you mean? I go, well, there's no guessing.

• 2:13:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know how many seats are.

• 2:13:46Speaker 01

  I go, the seats multiplied by the ticket sale, it's this. And he goes, pretty close. And I was like, it's not close. It's exact. And he goes, really? I go, yeah, man. I just did what I just told you. And he goes, hold on a second. He's like, let me get Donna in here.

• 2:14:04Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 2:14:05Speaker 01

  And he goes, Donna? And he goes, he's saying it's this.

• 2:14:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:10Speaker 01

  But I think it's this, which his number was less. And she was like, it's his number. And he was like, well, goddamn. And I was like, yeah, man. I mean, it's not a guess.

• 2:14:20Speaker 03

  I mean, you heard the stories back in the day where like your opener would take a counter.

• 2:14:25Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14:26Speaker 03

  And they would, they would, while you're on stage, count each person that was in the club, because the rumor has it that some clubs would say that it sat.

• 2:14:33Speaker 01

  That was a big thing.

• 2:14:35Speaker 03

  But it sat three forty.

• 2:14:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:37Speaker 03

  And then that was.

• 2:14:38Speaker 01

  I remember when I was out with Charlie Murphy. He had, um, he had his cousin with him. Click, click, click, click, click. Charlie, Charlie took me to dinner one time. I'll never forget, this is the funniest sentence anyone's ever said to me. He goes, you think, you think Oscar De La Hoya could whoop your ass? And I was like, what? I was like, Oscar De La Hoya? I go, fuck, yeah. Of course, he's a world-class boxer. And he was like, Keith Sweat thinks he could whoop Oscar De La Hoya's ass.

• 2:15:06Speaker 01

  What? I was like, why? He goes, because he thinks he's too pretty. I was like, Keith Sweat would not know it started.

• 2:15:13Speaker 01

  It'd be the fucking craziest knockout of his life. He's like, he swears that he could kick Oscar.

• 2:15:19Speaker 00

  Oscar is a dog.

• 2:15:21Speaker 01

  Man.

• 2:15:21Speaker 00

  I don't care what he wore. I don't care what his shenanigans were. That motherfucker was a dog.

• 2:15:28Speaker 01

  When you see in person a pro boxer just hit mitts.

• 2:15:33Speaker 00

  Oh, it's crazy.

• 2:15:35Speaker 01

  There's a whole other thing, man.

• 2:15:36Speaker 03

  Alex has said this exact thing 10 times on this podcast.

• 2:15:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, Alex doesn't think white guys can beat him up.

• 2:15:42Speaker 01

  White guys?

• 2:15:42Speaker 00

  He doesn't think white guys can beat him.

• 2:15:43Speaker 03

  Like you versus McGregor?

• 2:15:45Mark Gagnon?

  No, not fighters.

• 2:15:46Speaker 01

  Regular white guys.

• 2:15:48Mark Gagnon?

  Regular white guys.

• 2:15:49Speaker 01

  All of them?

• 2:15:49Mark Gagnon?

  I could take all you guys, probably same time.

• 2:15:51Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:15:52Mark Gagnon?

  Probably, maybe. You look like you're in shape.

• 2:15:54Speaker 01

  But we did this.

• 2:15:58Mark Gagnon?

  I can barely run two and a half miles.

• 2:16:00Speaker 00

  He needs to train to run two and a half miles.

• 2:16:03Speaker 01

  First of all, I'm mostly with you. I mean, you know, there's these sleeper white guys that are fucking savage.

• 2:16:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, the game has changed now with like jiu-jitsu and stuff.

• 2:16:12Speaker 03

  He said Jake Paul, he said he could take Jake Paul.

• 2:16:14Speaker 01

  But even.

• 2:16:14Speaker 00

  That was a while ago.

• 2:16:18Speaker 03

  Is he less white now? Did he get a little blacker?

• 2:16:22Mark Gagnon?

  He's been actually taking the sport seriously now. When they first started.

• 2:16:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:16:26Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 2:16:27Speaker 01

  No way. But there's also like this, like, not even trained, you're just like in some town and fucking, you know what I mean? Like, big old Greg just walks in, you're like, this guy will put someone's head through.

• 2:16:40Speaker 03

  Drunk guy with cauliflower ears? I'm leaving the bar.

• 2:16:42Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 2:16:43Speaker 00

  I got Keith Sweat confident.

• 2:16:44Speaker 01

  But I'm with you, dude. I'm with you for most of it.

• 2:16:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:16:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, for most of it, yeah.

• 2:16:49Speaker 03

  Have you been in a couple of fights?

• 2:16:50Speaker 01

  No, I mean, there was one college bar fight, but that was, I don't really, that wasn't like.

• 2:16:56Speaker 03

  What happened?

• 2:16:56Speaker 01

  It was chaos, just fucking melee.

• 2:16:59Speaker 03

  Everybody swinging?

• 2:16:59Speaker 01

  It was a melee, yeah. And the thing that, it's one of those things where I just lucked out that the guy I was with. He um, he had his footsteps on by this one other guy. And he was like, hey, man, like you stepped on my foot, you know? So it was kind of like, alright, my bad. And the guy did it again. Ooh. But the second time was definitely. On purpose. Yeah. Yeah. And the guy was, well, he was a big dude. Like he was six, five, probably two sixty, he was a big fuck. And he grabbed the guy and he just was like, boop. And you could see they go, huh, like that guy's whole face fucking. And that guy had a couple of guys with him. So as they start swinging, we're in this booth, we get up.

• 2:17:43Speaker 01

  But I didn't even know that, I was at this small college, that like, the whole offensive defensive line was hanging out back here. Behind, I didn't know they were in this part of the bar. So as we grabbed this guy, they come. I mean, this is all like, D two, big fuck dude. Big boys. And they come, and then it's just. You mole. Melee. Melee. But it was like, now it's like fifteen on three. Yeah. And then those bouncers were like, just everybody. Let them go. Just everybody, just everybody out, yeah. But that was like, I didn't get into like a lot of fights. Yeah. I got jumped in fifth grade. Damn. That was, that sucked. What'd they get? It was, it was just like, uh, no, it was just like at school.

• 2:18:26Speaker 01

  I was, I was, I moved a lot, so I went to a lot of different schools. I'm just walking in the parking lot, like going to recess or something. And these three kids just come around the corner with this like knee punch, pat, pat, just like leave you on the ground. I was like, oh, you know, just left for dead. And the worst part is like, it's fifth grade. Yeah. So they have to, like the teachers have to tell the parents. And then my parents were like, yeah, we talked to his parents. I was like, ah, fuck. And like, what, what now? They're like, well, we, we talked and we think you guys should hang out.

• 2:19:00Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:19:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, they're like, you know, like, make a man like, I was like, I don't want to fucking hang out with the dude that's just kneed me in the stomach.

• 2:19:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:10Speaker 01

  So I just go, go to his place and just sit there. Yeah. And just sit in like his parents, I remember his parents both smoked and the place was like full of smoke.

• 2:19:19Speaker 00

  He started to understand why he was so angry.

• 2:19:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  He felt bad for it.

• 2:19:22Speaker 01

  I kinda did, yeah. And then I was just like, alright, good hang man, I'll see you tomorrow. But that, that was like the extent, it wasn't like a violent upbringing.

• 2:19:30Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 2:19:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:31Speaker 03

  Were you and that kid cool after that?

• 2:19:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, we actually were, actually.

• 2:19:34Speaker 00

  It's a work.

• 2:19:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, it kinda did work, yeah.

• 2:19:36Speaker 00

  He sold me some GB.

• 2:19:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:40Speaker 00

  Tell me about the, because I know that we probably have limited time here, tell me about this show, this, you have a second season of the show coming out.

• 2:19:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, Bad Thoughts.

• 2:19:49Speaker 00

  Yes. I don't understand how you're able to do all these things and manage all these things, first of all, but like, the second season, how many episodes are we at?

• 2:19:58Speaker 01

  We're at six episodes.

• 2:20:00Speaker 00

  Okay, six episodes.

• 2:20:01Speaker 01

  Seventeen sketches or stories, whatever, yeah.

• 2:20:04Speaker 00

  Oh, so they're, okay, so you're gonna put multiple within the episode?

• 2:20:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, so every episode usually has three.

• 2:20:09Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 2:20:09Speaker 01

  In them.

• 2:20:10Speaker 00

  And these are, these are like vignettes, sketches?

• 2:20:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:20:13Speaker 00

  But they're shot, not like a sketch, it's shot like each one is its own movie.

• 2:20:17Speaker 01

  That's exactly right, yeah. So I did a pilot, I, I did the pilot of this.

• 2:20:22Speaker 00

  You funded it yourself?

• 2:20:23Speaker 01

  Myself, several years ago. The idea was, once we, I'd filmed a few of them, we were like, oh, this is like, um, a show. And I had only used, I have a pay-per-view platform that we kinda developed during the pandemic, where you could sell tickets for like, special ticketed.

• 2:20:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  We would do like, live podcasts. It was just a way to like, try to do a podcast that was elevated.

• 2:20:48Speaker 00

  Right, I remember.

• 2:20:49Speaker 01

  That had like, yeah, that had like, a little more to it. And also no rules, no restrictions. So when we did those, we would film sketches to be part of that live experience. And we had sold a bunch of tickets doing that, so we learned like, oh, there's a, there is a market for that. And so then what happened was, I was like, you know, we've never done like, a, just, like an entertainment-based narrative thing. I wonder if we did that and put it on there, if people would buy tickets? Because if they would, it would inform us to the point like, maybe you can make like a movie.

• 2:21:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:20Speaker 01

  And put it on, that was like, the concept. But when I had that pilot, I showed it to my eight, they're like, what have you been? I go, I, you know, I made this. They're like, you have to shop this. You absolutely have to shop this. And so it was like weighing, do I try the ticket? Cause that's what I was planning on.

• 2:21:36Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:21:37Speaker 01

  Or shopping it. Well, basically the first place we took it to was, I had a relationship there. We showed it to them first and they bought it.

• 2:21:44Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:21:45Speaker 01

  So that's what led to it being a series. And then the first one came out last year in May and the season two, we just were delivering now. It airs in May also, but it's all new, like characters, all new stories. But that, one of the big emphasis of the show is that, like, I like sketches, but one of the things I always didn't like is how they look. So I was like, I want these to feel more like short films, you know?

• 2:22:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:12Speaker 01

  And so we, like our DP, Nico Wiesnet is like a brilliant guy. And every single one of them has like a very distinct look and looks very cinematic. Some of them look just absolutely stunning, but that's deliberate. It's like, it's fun to, I, I think it's funny to take like a premise that's ridiculous, but shoot it beautifully.

• 2:22:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:34Speaker 01

  So it's kind of like, I think it's one of like the characters of the show.

• 2:22:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:37Speaker 01

  Is having that be throughout.

• 2:22:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:22:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's, uh, yeah, that's, that's really interesting. I guess that is, I'm trying to think of like sketch where they've done that. Where like feels very elevated and real.

• 2:22:50Speaker 01

  Like the early Key and Peele stuff for what it was.

• 2:22:52Speaker 00

  Kind of.

• 2:22:53Speaker 01

  Seeing it on YouTube in like 2010.

• 2:22:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:22:56Speaker 01

  You're like, oh, this is a TV show, but it's for free on YouTube. Then I feel like if you went back, maybe like, um, Monty Python was probably shot on film.

• 2:23:03Speaker 00

  Right. A hundred percent.

• 2:23:05Speaker 01

  And then some of the SNL, what's it called? Like their.

• 2:23:08Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah. Digital shorts.

• 2:23:09Speaker 01

  The digital shorts will sometimes have like a real look to them. I always liked those.

• 2:23:13Speaker 00

  I think it helps the comedy.

• 2:23:14Speaker 01

  I think so too.

• 2:23:15Speaker 00

  Cause if, if you're not presenting something as fake immediately, I can get lost in the reality.

• 2:23:20Speaker 01

  Cause sometimes it just feels so flat.

• 2:23:22Speaker 00

  Yes. A hundred percent.

• 2:23:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:23Speaker 00

  Here's one set and everything's operating right here and it has that like a multi cam look.

• 2:23:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:29Speaker 00

  Whereas like, yeah, if you get people lost in a world.

• 2:23:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, the formula for us, I feel like, is like, make it really cinematic. Also, play everything like it's, yeah, this is Shakespeare or whatever. Like, this is really serious stuff. And then make it absurd.

• 2:23:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  And push it, yeah.

• 2:23:46Speaker 00

  Are there any this season that, uh, can you give us any of the premises?

• 2:23:51Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 2:23:51Speaker 00

  This comes out of May, by the way, on Netflix, but.

• 2:23:53Speaker 01

  Well, one of them.

• 2:23:55Speaker 00

  Can you tease, tease, tease a fun?

• 2:23:57Speaker 01

  One of them is that I, I'm a middle-aged dad that drops off his daughter at college. And then I decide to go to college. And I'm really intrigued by the black fraternity. That one's very fun. There's a, there's one where I'm an, I'm a 19-year-old girl. And I get back from my semester abroad with very suggestive tattoos.

• 2:24:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  Some of which you could say are extremely offensive.

• 2:24:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:24:41Speaker 01

  I rationalize them.

• 2:24:42Speaker 00

  Okay. Where are you abroad?

• 2:24:45Speaker 01

  I was in Paris.

• 2:24:46Speaker 00

  Got it, okay. Okay.

• 2:24:49Speaker 01

  Trying to think without the, oh. There's one where I'm at a fertility clinic.

• 2:24:55Speaker 00

  Nice, yes.

• 2:24:56Speaker 01

  And while I'm making the deposit, I get a FaceTime call from a family member. And I feel like the call pollutes the deposit. So then I fight to get it back. There's all types of things like that, yeah.

• 2:25:18Speaker 00

  It's not exactly incest, but you can't be thinking about your family and doing these things.

• 2:25:22Speaker 01

  And the nurse tries to explain to me that that's not how it works. And I'm like, I think it is.

• 2:25:25Speaker 00

  It is, yeah.

• 2:25:26Speaker 01

  Can you share any that you had to cut? Were there any that were so close and you're like, we just can't do it? Well, the whole process is like, you start, obviously, and you build out in the room, in the writers' room, you end up with like 50. And you realize, like, we're doing six episodes and you gotta have at most 18. So you end up cutting so many, like, and ones that you're, are, you're on the fence about constantly. I'm trying to think, my brain is so rattled from. From being so in post with this, they, our post schedule was fucking wild.

• 2:26:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:02Speaker 01

  Last year, we shot in October and delivered in May. This year, we shot in February, we deliver in May.

• 2:26:08Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:26:09Speaker 01

  So like, all I've been is just thinking about what we're doing and there's, you know, there's the notes and the edits and the music and thankfully, like, that really is managed by like, Jeremy Connor, Rami Hishash, Tyler Kornack, and I just weigh in, but those guys are in it.

• 2:26:27Speaker 00

  They know what it is. They know the tone of the show.

• 2:26:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh yeah, and they're in, they're in the bay every, they're in there every day.

• 2:26:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, editing is grueling, dude.

• 2:26:33Speaker 01

  I flew out a couple of times to get in the bay and like, I get.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  They're in LA right now?

• 2:26:37Speaker 01

  They're in LA. I get in, I get links to like, watch and then comment on them, but there's no, there's no substitute for being in there because when you're in there, you literally watch it and you, your thought, you're like, didn't we?

• 2:26:47Speaker 00

  Do this take?

• 2:26:48Speaker 01

  And then they literally pull it up and you're like, oh, here it is.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

  Dude, the way that they organize footage now is like unbelievable. I was talking this to a couple of guys on the movie that I was doing and it's like, we were doing reshoots and I was like, how is, like, what did you guys do when it was just actual footage?

• 2:27:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:04Speaker 00

  And so like, Tarantino shot like, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I think on actual like, thirty, is it called thirty-nine millimeter, thirty-six, thirty-five millimeter? So I go, so what are they doing? Are they taping things together? And he goes, well, what they do is, they have digital versions of that footage. They do all the edits on the digital versions and then they match it to the tape.

• 2:27:29Speaker 01

  That's, I didn't know that.

• 2:27:30Speaker 00

  Otherwise, you're cutting, like, that's how they made movies back in the day. They had spools of tape.

• 2:27:34Speaker 01

  Splice.

• 2:27:35Speaker 00

  Organized them per scene and then are cutting and patching together. So how many times realistic, like, the movies that we saw back in the day on tape, that wasn't the best take of every scene.

• 2:27:47Speaker 01

  Definitely not.

• 2:27:47Speaker 00

  It might have been the only take. It might, it might have been the only take because the tape is expensive, but also you're like, am I really gonna cut this? Insert another thing, tape it together, watch it, no, give me back that other one. Like, how much shit is on the cutting room floor from back in the day?

• 2:28:01Speaker 01

  Literally, yeah. That's so much. Did you ever, did you ever hear, by the way, how Eastwood shoots?

• 2:28:04Speaker 00

  Oh, you got one take, my boy.

• 2:28:07Speaker 01

  One take.

• 2:28:07Speaker 00

  And if you try to push back, he's like, do you want to go home?

• 2:28:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's like a ref.

• 2:28:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:13Speaker 01

  And then he doesn't say action, you know?

• 2:28:15Speaker 00

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 2:28:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, he says whenever you're ready.

• 2:28:17Speaker 00

  Go.

• 2:28:17Speaker 01

  Because when he came up in those westerns, action would scare the horses.

• 2:28:23Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:28:24Speaker 01

  Right? So he never, because it would startle them. So he's like, whenever you're ready. And you just do it, cut, print, let's go. And everyone's like, can I?

• 2:28:32Speaker 00

  No, you can't.

• 2:28:33Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:28:33Speaker 00

  I saw there was a guy, I'm forgetting his name, really funny character actor.

• 2:28:38Speaker 00

  I think he had like some wrestling background too. He's kind of like bigger guy.

• 2:28:43Speaker 01

  Hall Hauser?

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's it.

• 2:28:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's hilarious, but he's also an amazing actor.

• 2:28:50Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 2:28:51Speaker 00

  And he was talking about how he did a movie with Clint where he was the lead and basically he was, people said he was the only guy that got to do more takes.

• 2:28:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:59Speaker 00

  And I think he had told Clint, hey, I'm not used to doing this. There might be some times where like, I need to find it a little bit.

• 2:29:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:07Speaker 00

  Do you mind? And then Clint was like, yeah, sure. It's like crazy. Matt Damon said,

• 2:29:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:13Speaker 00

  like, you get two takes and this is it.

• 2:29:16Speaker 01

  This is it?

• 2:29:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:29:16Speaker 01

  And I'm, I'm working on a South African accent. Dial in for six months.

• 2:29:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:29:23Speaker 01

  Can I get another?

• 2:29:24Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 2:29:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:29:25Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 2:29:25Speaker 01

  We're not going to waste your fucking time. No. I'm 90. Let's go.

• 2:29:29Speaker 00

  It is like, once you've been on any set, the idea of,

• 2:29:32Speaker 01

  Do you like it?

• 2:29:33Speaker 00

  Being on set?

• 2:29:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:36Speaker 00

  Sitting around all day? No.

• 2:29:38Speaker 01

  But the actual acting itself?

• 2:29:39Speaker 00

  Acting is fun. What I like is building the scene.

• 2:29:44Speaker 00

  So I like, if we have a scene, I'm like, you're with the director and you're with the actors. Like, I want to know what the director wants from the scene and what his vision is for the funny.

• 2:29:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:52Speaker 00

  Because it could be completely different than why, what I'm trying to add to it. And then I want to be able to pitch some stuff and like have it kind of, like, whenever we're doing run-throughs, if we get the opportunity, I'm throwing things out.

• 2:30:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:04Speaker 00

  I'm kind of like feeling things out and if it sticks, then we go. That part, even if I'm not in a scene and I'm kind of watching it and be like, oh, what if this happened? I like that part of it.

• 2:30:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:14Speaker 00

  Sitting around all day, coming in, doing one line and like,

• 2:30:16Speaker 01

  Fun.

• 2:30:17Speaker 00

  The other actor isn't even there for your coverage. Not fun at all.

• 2:30:21Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 2:30:23Speaker 00

  Making something fun.

• 2:30:24Speaker 01

  Very fun. I agree.

• 2:30:25Speaker 00

  Feels kinda like joke writing.

• 2:30:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:27Speaker 00

  Oh, what if I set him up for this and it's, yeah, that, that to me is cool.

• 2:30:31Speaker 01

  It's cool.

• 2:30:32Speaker 00

  The whole script, like, oh, there's no character arc here. What if we put this here? And that type of stuff is exciting.

• 2:30:38Speaker 01

  I think so too. Yeah.

• 2:30:40Speaker 00

  Why? What about you? You like the acting?

• 2:30:41Speaker 01

  I love it. I love it. And I, and I, and I love, you know, stand up is such a singular solo kind of endeavor. The idea that like, we're all trying to make this work together, especially if you have

• 2:30:52Speaker 00

  A good team.

• 2:30:52Speaker 01

  That, that collaborative feel, the idea of like, what would make, and also when you go, there's this time too, where sometimes you're like, alright, this is what it is. Like, this is the scene. And somebody suggests something and you realize that it elevates everything.

• 2:31:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:08Speaker 01

  That's very exciting.

• 2:31:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:09Speaker 01

  Fun thing to be a part of.

• 2:31:10Speaker 00

  Like, finding what the funny in the scene is.

• 2:31:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:13Speaker 00

  And to me, in my experience, it's not, doesn't happen on the day when you press record. It's before. It's like, oh, what are we trying to get out of these? Like, what is the tension in this?

• 2:31:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:25Speaker 00

  What, what are we trying to do? And where, where does this go? And I will be honest, when we did the movie, we did Street Fighter in Australia because it's like impossible to film anything in America, especially LA. It's just so fucking expensive.

• 2:31:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:31:40Speaker 00

  There is something, and I would hear boxers talk about it all the time, like, don't put your fight camp in your home city. Cause you have too many people that want you to do things and you'll end up doing them. Doing a movie in a foreign country where you don't really know anybody and nobody on the crew really knows anybody.

• 2:31:57Speaker 01

  Great.

• 2:31:57Speaker 00

  You just have a singular focus.

• 2:31:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:59Speaker 00

  Like, are you free Saturday? Yeah. I'm not doing anything for two months. I'm always free.

• 2:32:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:06Speaker 00

  And in a way, as much as I want, like, I have my fam out there, but like, as much as I would love to film, like, if I wanna film shit in New York because I just love New York and I wanna do everything in New York and that's important, yes. If it's an action movie or some like wild movie that doesn't need to be in a city where the city's a character, take us away.

• 2:32:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:25Speaker 00

  Cause then everybody's on the same page with one goal.

• 2:32:27Speaker 01

  You're totally right. You're totally right. Yeah. Being away is key and leaving the country is even better.

• 2:32:32Speaker 00

  If you're in Austin, think about the amount of things that you're gonna be pulled to do or pods or a meeting or.

• 2:32:38Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:32:39Speaker 00

  Dinner with the family like.

• 2:32:41Speaker 01

  It's everything.

• 2:32:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. Being away is key. That's why Lotus was the greatest show of all time. Inventing a show that you're like, yeah, we're gonna go to Italy.

• 2:32:48Speaker 00

  And then they just fucking hang out. Or the oceans movies.

• 2:32:52Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:32:52Speaker 00

  I heard how that was part of partially like how they got them to do like the second and third. They're like, okay, you can all live at Georgia's house in Lake Como.

• 2:32:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:33:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Sounds good.

• 2:33:02Speaker 01

  I saw that clip of Liam Neeson talking about how he, when he got taken, he was like, I'll be honest, I thought this was like a straight to DVD movie. But I saw that it shot in Paris and I was like, I'll spend six weeks in Paris. Like, he's like, that's why I did the movie.

• 2:33:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:20Mark Gagnon?

  Sandler's that way. Sandler puts his in really cool locations.

• 2:33:23Speaker 00

  Hawaii.

• 2:33:24Speaker 01

  Always Hawaii.

• 2:33:25Speaker 00

  It's like every time Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. That's the move though. Like, that's the goal.

• 2:33:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Definitely. To pick awesome locations, that would be the, that is the goal. Yeah.

• 2:33:34Speaker 00

  Go with all your boys, make something awesome, bring the family out.

• 2:33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:39Speaker 01

  No, I'm always just like, I think this makes a lot more sense in Italy if we would do.

• 2:33:44Speaker 00

  Bad thoughts. I only have them in Amsterdam for some reason. Anyway, dude, I want everybody to go check it out and make sure. Are you gonna be doing the road anytime soon?

• 2:33:54Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna go on tour until 27.

• 2:33:56Speaker 00

  Good for you, man.

• 2:33:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  I.

• 2:33:59Speaker 01

  It's been a lot of touring, man. It's been a lot of touring.

• 2:34:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I get it. But I also think time off is valuable, dude.

• 2:34:06Speaker 01

  It's been a lesson. I think it, I think it helps a lot. I think it makes you live.

• 2:34:10Speaker 00

  And then you have something to talk about.

• 2:34:12Speaker 01

  To talk about.

• 2:34:12Speaker 00

  More time for helicopters.

• 2:34:14Speaker 01

  Time for choppers, fucking 1700 horsepower cars and then like, uh, yeah, it just, it gives you a chance to like, enjoy life. Have some balance, experience some things, talk about it. And it is good to like, pull back from the incessant road schedule.

• 2:34:30Speaker 00

  I love that. That's kind of been the way that I've gone about it. Cause I find I don't have anything to talk about that's different than the last time if I just keep touring. And then I'm telling you different versions of the same jokes.

• 2:34:41Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:34:41Speaker 00

  And I feel guilty because I kind of wanna give them, I want them to come and be like, what the fuck was that?

• 2:34:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that happens if you.

• 2:34:48Speaker 00

  Take a little time off.

• 2:34:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:34:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Anyway, Tom Segura, thank you so much. Thank you very much.

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