Messi is Trans, Haaland will be the GOAT, & Trump Declares War on World Cup

YERRRR good Morning - we're talking all things World Cup: - Is FIFA favoring Messi? - Haaland becoming a potential GOAT - Scots are White Mexicans - Knicks Winning - Close call in San Antonio and much, much more. Timestamps: 0:00 FIFA favoring Messi 1:22 Greatest World Cup ever 3:18 Trashcan Knicks Fan Fired 6:32 Norwegian Row is mid + American chants 7:54 Hot Ladies, AI gooning + Spank bank 17:48 4 years is a long time 18:54 US knocked out + FIFA corrupt for us 23:43 Messi = trans, Haaland potential GOAT + Best White? 30:16 Monkey Whites, Haaland is FUNNY 35:26 Brits are best at chants + Argentines are RACIST? 38:17 Developing talent + Brazil better when Catholic 41:09 Bribe players to play for US + Stars were shining 43:49 Should penalties decide games? 47:57 Change the red card rule + US pens 49:50 Congolese fan 51:16 Witnessing history, Scots are White Mexicans*** + Sharing culture 59:18 French are perfectly refined + Unwritten rules 1:03:20 Beans on toast, British desserts + Napoleon Pizza 1:10:33 US have greatest condiments + 78 is too HIGH 1:15:09 Welcome Back, Cape Verde GK + Penalize flopping 1:18:14 Tennis elbow + Farmers market is cosplay*** 1:21:58 Mothers, Boys v Girls + Great time in Hamptons 1:26:24 Women in bars + Studs are men 1:31:57 Patriotism, Who’s winning? + Switzerland 1:39:33 Mexicans are the best + Irish Vampires 1:40:58 Nice Little Nicotine Hit + Alexx doing Jersey Ayahuasca 1:52:09 Wedding culture stuff + Knicks WINNING in San Antonio 2:02:27 Downtown San Antonio is SCARY + Game 4 comeback 2:12:50 The parade This ep is sponsored by: Kalshi Sesh #messi #haaland #knicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Mark Gagnon?

  Can either you explain why everybody's saying Argentina's cheating? Or why FIFA's cheating for Argentina? That's the shit I don't understand. Cause I watched the game and I didn't see the cheating.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  So basically, if Messi's playing in the game, more people are gonna watch, FIFA makes more money. So the theory from the people that don't like Messi is they're like, oh, they rigged the last World Cup for him. They had a controversial win versus the Netherlands and they got some calls going their way. And Messi makes it all the way to the final and this big amazing final penalty kicks, awesome. They're running it back. Messi, it seems like Argentina has a very easy bracket through the round of 32.

• 0:36Mark Gagnon?

  Who chooses the bracket? Like FIFA, is it like some?

• 0:39Speaker 01

  It's a random draw.

• 0:40Mark Gagnon?

  Random draw?

• 0:41Speaker 01

  It's a random draw for the group and then in the brackets, it's all pre-scheduled. So like the winner of this group will play the third place in the.

• 0:48Mark Gagnon?

  But it's not like the Lotto shit where it's like the balls are in a thing and they take it out?

• 0:52Speaker 01

  It's Lotto for the groups. They do like a drawing based off country to get a bunch of different countries in all different groups. But based on skill level, like there would never be a group that's like Portugal, Spain, Argentina. In the old World Cup, there was always like a group of death. And it was just like, oh, there's like two really good teams, two kind of weaker teams. And then one group would just be packed. And it's like, damn, this is the group of death. One of these great teams is gonna go home. And that's because they had less groups. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. And since they expanded the tournament, it's a little bit more diluted. Um, okay. So like, let's just call it what it is. The World Cup comes to America. It's the greatest World Cup that's ever happened. Yes or no?

• 1:26Mark Gagnon?

  The facts.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  Without a doubt. And I want you guys to know that as we.

• 1:30Mark Gagnon?

  It's probably the most watched World.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  Well, 100% most watched, but as we speak on soccer today, we're not speaking on this as casuals. We're speaking on this as experts. We know the game. We love the game and we invested our life in this game. So know that. Don't take anything we say with a grain of salt. People are already mad that you're saying soccer. Why? That's what it's actually called.

• 1:48Mark Gagnon?

  They're gonna change it.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  They're gonna, who's that?

• 1:51Mark Gagnon?

  Trump's gonna put the call in.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  FIFA? Yeah. This is what they called it in Britain. It was the Association of Football. ASOC, soccer. So this is, we are actually doing what they used to do. Nobody was calling it football in Britain. We speak English.

• 2:07Mark Gagnon?

  Watch your mouth, don't get nutmegged.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  Stop looking at my mouth. Can you guys stop? What is it not the greatest World Cup that's ever happened? And this is probably people, it's gonna be difficult for them to accept. Hopefully it's not, right? But like, this is what America distributes to the entire world. Entertainment, spectacle. I can't tell if it's bigger because it's happening here. And like, games are in New York City. Technically, East Rutherford. Or if it's just because it's more games and it's a bigger World Cup objectively. You know? It feels like the vibes are better than ever.

• 2:39Mark Gagnon?

  That helps.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  Can we just not do it in any fucking place in the Middle East where you can't drink? Like, if the Scottish aren't allowed to come, there's no point in having the World Cup. That's a good point. Also, it's clean in the Middle East. You don't need the Japanese to do the one thing they do. And also, we have to get off of that thing where like, we praise the Japanese for cleaning up. You don't want that to be like, what you're known for. Well, it's nice, it's nice. Imagine this, what you're known for, they're like, ooh, the Japanese are coming, they're gonna tie, why don't you tidy up Pearl Harbor? There's some fucking ships and planes, they never tidied that shit up in years. Get some school gear on, guys!

• 3:11Mark Gagnon?

  Let them have that reputation.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  No, Maria Kondo Pearl Harbor. Get your ass back under there, put some fucking flippers on and clean the bottom of the ocean up. Whereas Knicks fans are known for stealing trashcans, I don't know if you saw that. Listen, that girl got a lot of food she gotta throw away. She ate an industrial-sized trashcan, you see the size of that woman? And she lost her job. She did?

• 3:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  You didn't hear that? I mean, the balls of JP Morgan thinking they can fire anybody for an ethical issue.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  I mean, it's pretty crazy. Like, it doesn't help that she's, this is kinda like the outfit she put on.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Like, she has like a... She walks like Fat Joe. She got that little lean walk, right? Yeah, the Terror Squad. Yeah. I like when they, when they wear the hats with no brim. That's my favorite type of, favorite type of fitted.

• 3:59Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I didn't even beep that.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Is that Fat Joe? Like, is there a chance? Like, with all due respect, obviously to Joe, but is there a chance?

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Is there a chance that you got like a Jewish wig on and he's just walking down the street stealing trash? It might be hair attached to the hat. I think so. It might be a Rasta hat. I don't blame that girl for taking that shit at all. That's fire memorabilia. Bro, it's just a regular trash can painted. Nah, but it's different. Nah, but it's the one. Yeah. What do you mean the one? The one with all the trash. Also that. Also that. Bro, you could've just taken any of the trash can and then painted it. Nah, but then it wouldn't be the one. It would be a trash can painted. That's what that is, bro.

• 4:35Mark Gagnon?

  No, that's like getting a replica.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you could paint it on a Van Gogh. Does it make it a Van Gogh? That's a New York Knicks parade trash can. Yeah, marked full of garbage and condoms from the parade. This motherfucker got a fake jersey on. I know, right? That's everything. He don't care about authenticity. This is authentic. Uh, no. Yes, it is. Bro, you can see the bottom of it is still green. Bro, she's from the bottom of the ocean. Look how translucent that fat shit is. Just let her get a fucking trash can so she can throw out her Wendy's at the end of the night. Look, when she's ordering $300 with a Taco Bell, you think she could put that in a regular fucking trash can? She has four trash cans in her house. What, don't do what?

• 5:12Mark Gagnon?

  She has hypothyroidism.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Just, just give it up. That's the biggest word you've ever said. I've never heard you say a word that big. That's awesome. She got hypothyroid?

• 5:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Ism.

• 5:23Mark Gagnon?

  Hypo.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Hypo.

• 5:24Mark Gagnon?

  Hypo.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Yo, my bad. Hypo. I'm saying if you, how about this as a compromise? You can take the trash. Can we make a compromise? You gotta take the trash with it. She should absolutely take the trash. There's some fucking snacks in there.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Come on, man. She dumped it out and then just dumped, like dove in the trash. Oh, face. Would that have been more sprout or less sprout?

• 5:43Mark Gagnon?

  Sesame Street guy, Grimace over the fucking.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, Grimace, Oscar.

• 5:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, oh, Oscar.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Oscar.

• 5:50Mark Gagnon?

  You say yeah, motherfucker.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  I didn't say yeah.

• 5:52Mark Gagnon?

  You say yeah.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  You say yeah, too.

• 5:54Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck this guy. You read my lips wrong.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  No. We need Japan. We need Japan to come in for the Knicks parade. Imagine she did that in Japan. How many Harikaris would you see just in the middle of the street? Japanese businessmen stabbing themselves with a fucking chopstick. Nah, they would've come and collected the bottles. They would've been stoked. They would've called the pit boss and been like, dude, you hit it. They would've gone crazy. No? Am I wrong for that? No. Why? It's just so funny how quick it is like this, this, this, this great celebration of the World Cup, bringing these cultures together and like how everybody really appreciated it. It only take us like 15 minute of a podcast between like before we're like, they fucking suck. These guys are too clean. Mexico rules. All right, what about Norway? Nor- Norwegian fans would be cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Norwegian fans are cool. Maybe nice to row?

• 6:39Speaker 01

  I think the row is a little mid, to be honest with you. Why? It's just like, huh. I like this one. Yeah, that's all right. I like that.

• 6:47Mark Gagnon?

  We, America started doing that shit though.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  Say again?

• 6:50Mark Gagnon?

  America started doing that shit. We tried to copy their shit.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  We did?

• 6:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we wasn't on beat with it.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  So here's a good question. What should America do as our chants? Oh, you saw that dude doing? I posted it. It was amazing. Yeah, the accurate chants?

• 7:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  It's so funny. Let me see if I got it. I can find it. But we do, we're not like a chanting culture, right? Like the Knicks have the same go New York, go.

• 7:13Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, how is it the wave?

• 7:15Speaker 01

  Did we start the, did we invent that?

• 7:16Mark Gagnon?

  I think it's either a Mexico or American thing, but that's us.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  The wave. Yeah, but the wave is it doesn't get you hype. Like a chant.

• 7:24Mark Gagnon?

  When you're there and that shit's coming around, you, you kinda.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:27Mark Gagnon?

  That shit is fun. This shit is fun.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna lie, the Brits got the wittiest ones.

• 7:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, the one that the guy made in the thing you reposted, one of your own, one of your own. Adolf Hitler was one of your own. Yeah, we got it. The guy did that on, on against America with Epstein. Can you get it up? Yeah. I don't like that you're looking at me like I'm in your phone. I'm gonna find it. I just need one second. Oh, man.

• 7:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, but the bitches though, can we talk about that for a second?

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Tell me, tell me. I'm married.

• 8:00Mark Gagnon?

  We can, we can.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  I'm married.

• 8:03Mark Gagnon?

  Appreciate.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Appreciate what?

• 8:05Mark Gagnon?

  Don't care to pre- I find.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  No, no, no, tell me, tell me.

• 8:07Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just saying, it was just.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  The batty cam?

• 8:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:10Mark Gagnon?

  Like the cameraman, the cameraman, like they're really good at finding the best stock.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  And, and have you been, have you been jerking off to it? That's why you got the fucking wrist guard on?

• 8:22Speaker 01

  Have you injured yourself watching World Cup matches?

• 8:25Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I injured myself playing the most manly sport there is, tennis, you know?

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Alright, respect. Yeah, that's kinda worse, actually.

• 8:30Mark Gagnon?

  No, I just kinda, I'd rather injure myself jerking off them, injure myself.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  There's one guy's job at the World Cup to find hot women?

• 8:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  And then during the break, just cut to them.

• 8:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  It's a remarkable job.

• 8:40Mark Gagnon?

  He did a phenomenal job.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  He's been doing good?

• 8:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, every game is like one that just takes off like, and then everybody's talking about it. He all, we saw the twins.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Nah, show me the twins.

• 8:50Mark Gagnon?

  You saw the twins.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  What country?

• 8:53Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, see?

• 8:53Speaker 01

  What country, what country?

• 8:54Mark Gagnon?

  It was Ivory Coast, it was Ivory Coast and there was Portugal.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I saw Ivory Coast, yeah, yeah.

• 9:00Mark Gagnon?

  There we go, look at that. Come on now.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Nah, that's AI, bro.

• 9:03Mark Gagnon?

  No, no.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  That's AI, there's no way.

• 9:06Mark Gagnon?

  That's just a phenomenal cameraman, we should hire him.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  We should hire them. Yeah, we should hire them, actually, I think they are the talent.

• 9:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm talking about, come on now.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  That's crazy that you haven't zoomed in already. That's crazy that you, that's better. You think they're twins?

• 9:23Mark Gagnon?

  I mean.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Come on, Al, you can't say they're twins, huh? Four twins, nah.

• 9:27Mark Gagnon?

  That's four things I would, I'd pinnacle right?

• 9:30Speaker 01

  Those are quite groupless. I'm looking at the twins, I don't know what. Those are quite groupless.

• 9:36Mark Gagnon?

  But come on, that is, poof.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  And people have just been making straight up AI hot girls at games, have you seen that? No. It's just like AI videos where they're not real, and all the people in the comments like, who is this?

• 9:47Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I saw, I saw girls making AI of themselves being at games, but they're not.

• 9:53Speaker 01

  No.

• 9:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, like some corny shit.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  That's diabolical.

• 9:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you know, that's what it is.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  I mean, there's this whole like Twitter threads of just baddies. Let me see.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  But this is not good, hold on, go back one. What in the hell is going on, what country is that even?

• 10:12Mark Gagnon?

  France.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Is that France?

• 10:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  There's no French girl that looks like that, that's not what they look like.

• 10:17Mark Gagnon?

  You see them cocks on the shirt, man.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  That's not what they look like. That's not a Brazilian. That's a classic looking Brazilian. It's Michael Jackson. Yeah, there's no way. Japan? Look at that purse is struggling. Get out of this AI. I don't want to see AI. I want to see real people, man. That's gotta be bad.

• 10:35Mark Gagnon?

  There's been a lot of nice ones.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  That's gotta be bad for like the cosmic energy. All these guys goon into AI. Yeah. Like you're giving your power away, you know? To whom? To fucking Peter Thiel? Yeah, to Peter Thiel and Jensen Huang. Jensen Huang? Yeah, probably. I mean, you gotta give it away. So I mean, is it more respectful to jerk off to a real girl? I think so. Even though she might be unaware of it? What are the rules?

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Is a girl you're jerking off to ever aware of it?

• 11:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yes. If they're doing OnlyFans and shit like that.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  But do you only jerk off to OnlyFans girls? I don't know about jerk off to one OnlyFan girl.

• 11:18Mark Gagnon?

  If you're doing porn.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  What if you're just going through the memory, the rolodex?

• 11:22Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, that don't count.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  But wait, why does that not count? This is an interesting.

• 11:32Speaker 01

  It's a reflection pool right now.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  I don't want to even indulge in discussion like that. So what are the rules? Like, can you jerk off to? Are memories your own? Like, once you see a person, is the memory of them your own and now you can goon to that?

• 11:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  That's legal.

• 11:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but we don't do it no more. But yeah.

• 11:58Speaker 01

  You can't help if you try to jerk off with respect to your relationship and then a.

• 12:02Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, one pops in, boom, you gotta stop.

• 12:06Speaker 01

  These pictures are nasty. You can try to jerk off to your wife. Exactly.

• 12:11Mark Gagnon?

  How you think I hurt my hand?

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Smash it off.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  You're trying to just ethically jerk off.

• 12:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  And the girl just comes in the room like, yeah, she not doing that right. You're like, why would you come in the room like that? You gotta meditate better. I think that that, like, if we went to a court of law, if we spoke to a constitutional lawyer, they would say that a memory is not a real thing. Like, a memory of somebody or anything like that is not a real thing. So you don't need to ask the memory if you could do it. The memory's yours. The memory's yours. It's kind of beautiful. It's beautiful. So that means you don't need to ask permission to jerk off.

• 12:54Speaker 01

  weirder if you did. Way weirder. And you call someone up 10 years later and be like, yo, can I, can I run this? How would you feel if I ran this?

• 13:03Mark Gagnon?

  I kinda pulled that move, sorta kinda. Way back in the day, I was like, yo, can I hold on to the, the joints for later, you know?

• 13:12Speaker 01

  And you kept images of girls from the past?

• 13:15Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, like 10, 15 years.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  30 years ago. How shit is there a film photo of that? How do you even do that? Don't those just get deleted?

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Can we move on? Can we go back to the World Cup immediately before you guys ruin your lives? Wait, what? Can we go back to the?

• 13:32Mark Gagnon?

  I know, it was in the past iPhones. I lost those iPhones.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Let me tell you something, Apple, is a, that's a roll of the dice every time where he brings a random picture up from back to back. What type of Russian roulette is Tim Cook playing over there? That's the shit you wanna bring up today?

• 13:52Mark Gagnon?

  This memory from five years ago.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Yo, I'm trying to be on a family vacation. You bringing up old bitches, Tim Cook? Yeah, that's how you know he's gay. That's how you know he's gay. He's in like an open relationship. He's like, who cares? Who cares? We care.

• 14:07Mark Gagnon?

  That's why he's out of here.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I gotta make all the boxes small till you can go back to that area. I gotta go like that on the picture so they get tiny. It looks like a collage. And then he's like, fuck.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  You real unfortunate, bitch. And then maybe, maybe there's something I forgot to do, delete. Yeah, and then you delete it immediately. Immediately. Get these hoes off my phone. How angry are you?

• 14:34Mark Gagnon?

  Don't go to recent deletes ever.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  What is that?

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Like, how angry would you be? Like, if you found an old picture, like, how angry would you be? Like, what would you do? You open your phone? So like that. Dilbert.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Who's angry that's done? Fuck you, man! And you delete it hard. I'll delete the fuck out of that picture, man. Alright guys, shows, Halifax, Nova Scotia. First time ever coming there, putting on an unreal show, okay? August 8th. I'm coming up. We got Marky Gagnon, we got SNL and Kill Tony's Cam Patterson. We got Lucas Zelnik. Think we're gonna have some locals as well, it's gonna be a hell of a show. You come check it out. The Garrison Grounds. Great Outdoors Fest, August 8th, theaterscholes.com. And thank you guys so much for being coming out to the shows out in Los Angeles, or the Los Angeles, the greater Los Angeles area, I should say.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  Shout out Pasadena and Ontario. We also got Bray out there, man. Thank you guys so much for selling out those shows, been amazing audiences. And shout out our boy, man. Shout out boy Emiliano, telling the craziest story maybe in the history of comedy. That was a wild thing to share. And also, thank you so much to Emiliano for, and Grandma's Boy Catering, by the way. Grandma's Boys Catering is catering company, came and catered our next show that we did out in Ontario, just brought out some fire ass tacos for everybody, man. So shout out Grandma's Boys Catering, if you need someone out there, he's the motherfucking boy. And thank you for sharing that story, getting that shit off your chest. Go live your life, my boy. We refuse to let these hoes win. Another quick update with shows, sorry I'm filming this in my crib because I just

• 16:20Speaker 01

  found out, Bray, we're gonna have to move the shows on the 17th and 18th to the 24th and 25th. I'm so sorry for any inconvenience, my bad, my bad, my bad. This movie schedule has shifted, so we have to shift with it. Again, I'm sorry, but we're also gonna be adding shows on the 23rd as well. So we'll do the 23rd to the 25th, so if you couldn't get shows to the 17th and 18th, couldn't get tickets, now we're also two more shows on the 23rd. And then all your tickets will be honored on the, for the 17th and 18th on the 24th and 25th. If you can't make it, obviously, contact the club and they'll sort you out for everything.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  But again, I'm so sorry for the inconvenience, guys, but I'm looking forward to seeing you. Peace. Hey guys, great news, I'm gonna be in Plano, Texas, Chandler.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Pasadena, California, San Diego, California, Detroit, Michigan, and Salt Lake City. Headlining my very own shows. Come on out to see one hour of standup comedy. It's the best I got and I can't wait to see you guys there. Let's grab a photo afterwards. Alex?

• 17:23Mark Gagnon?

  Guys, let's get off the internet and let's hang out in real life. I got my tennis clinic, tennis for the people. Whether you're trying to be professional like me, or you've never held a tennis racket in your life. We have a court for you to play on. We got music, we got food, we got giveaways. Just head over to theallloveclub.com to secure your spot. It's gonna be on July 25th. See you guys there. Peace.

• 17:49Speaker 03

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• 18:19Speaker 01

  Alright, back to the World Cup, dude.

• 18:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, can we get back to the World Cup? We were talking about Lippert, then you brought up bad bitches. Then you only brought up AI stuff. You didn't bring up, you brought up two girls of the whole World Cup.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Okay, fine. No, we're not getting more. No, we're focusing on the World Cup.

• 18:32Mark Gagnon?

  Were there any repeats? Remember there was that like Croatian baddie or something back?

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:37Mark Gagnon?

  Did she run it back? Did she get the attention?

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Nah, I think she aged out.

• 18:40Mark Gagnon?

  Ooh, four years is a lot of years.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  It's a long time.

• 18:44Mark Gagnon?

  That's a lot of years for a thoroughbred.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  They need a legacy patch on the girls.

• 18:50Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  She's not old, she's legacy.

• 18:52Mark Gagnon?

  That's right.

• 18:55Speaker 01

  I like that. I'm not in the mills, I'm in the legacy, you know?

• 18:59Mark Gagnon?

  That's beautiful.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  You gotta dap that up. If you see him, you gotta dap him up.

• 19:03Mark Gagnon?

  Be like, yo, last World Cup, you were on one.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  You were on one. So is this hand.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  Alright, back to the World Cup. But I'm glad we figured out, I'm glad we figured out if that is, if that is okay to do. Yeah, cuz I think it is. A lot of people are probably wondering, they're probably listening to this being like, is it okay?

• 19:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  And they're probably angry whenever they see it and now you've

• 19:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we help you.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  You're commiserated.

• 19:23Mark Gagnon?

  That's what we do.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, USA got knocked out. And Schultz, one of the most, foremost soccer, football journalists. Experts. Commenting the whole time in the group chat, just like his soccer hot day. Yo, how, how ass was my shit or how on point was it? It was kinda on point. I don't, I thought my shit was on point. What was I ass with? Yo, give it to Pulisic, just give him the rock.

• 19:47Mark Gagnon?

  You just said, give him the ball and let him cook.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Give the ball to Pulisic every time, someone tell me why not? No one else has to touch it. So, this is what I was seeing as an expert in soccer.

• 19:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  And I, it was, I don't wanna trash my Americans, obviously I love you guys and you gave a great effort and we're very proud of you for as far as you guys got, okay? Let me just caveat with that. Mm-hmm. We got as far as Brazil, right? That's something. Say again? We got as far as Brazil. We got as far as Brazil, which is far. Yeah. Okay, um, but Pulisic is the only guy with touch. Alright. Nobody got touch.

• 20:20Mark Gagnon?

  What about the one that Trump cheated for?

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Well, but he doesn't bring the ball, he's not in the midfield. This is what it looked like for me watching as an expert.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  For me watching as an expert, and what it looked like is the guys that are supposed to develop the play, so I'm looking at it through like point guard, uh, lens here, don't have enough touch to advance the ball against the defense and cause problems. So they would get it, pass it in by some defender, and like, what I noticed with the really good guys is they're either using the momentum of the ball or they're stopping it so tightly that you can make a move and you, and the defender is now reacting to another reaction. But the US guys, it just seems like they have to stop it, kinda trap it a little bit, then develop the next play and it just stops that kinda fluidity of the offense. Whereas Pulisic, is it Pulisic or Pulisic?

• 21:09Mark Gagnon?

  Pulisic.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  Probably Pulisic.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  From where he's from. That's where he's from, but if he's American, then Pulisic. But whereas he, he just seemed like he had better touch and he also could like operate in tight spaces better. That's the other thing. It's like when I looked at these like teams that were really nice, they weren't as frantic in tight spaces. They were like really patient. They got three other guys around them and they don't have this like urgency to get the ball. They have this confidence that they'll be able to dribble through all of them. And I feel like when we get in these tight spaces, we either turn the ball over or we don't have the confidence that we can make it through or the play kind of breaks down.

• 21:45Mark Gagnon?

  What I saw, they were just like standing around a lot, like nobody was trying to make a move.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Make runs.

• 21:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, like.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  They seemed nervous. They seemed, they seemed, they seemed like that it.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  It seemed like the moment got, got to them. Cause in the group stage, I think they played a lot better. And in the final game against Belgium, like Malik Tillman was really the only one that was like really making anything happen.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  I thought he was, I thought he was cooking. And I thought early Pulisic was, was at least advancing the ball, at least like putting ourselves in positions to score. But I didn't see any like development of offense or any of that.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  What do we gotta do?

• 22:17Speaker 01

  How do we turn around the American soccer program? We do this every four years. We lose and we say, you know, we're gonna fix it.

• 22:22Mark Gagnon?

  We gotta change our style of play. Like stop with the trying to set up like set pieces, like just as soon as the other team like tries to score, run that shit.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  That's what we used to do.

• 22:35Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, go back to it.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  We used to just kick that shit deep and then hopefully Josie got it and then scored. It was trash.

• 22:43Mark Gagnon?

  Imagine we did that with Pulisic, Pulisic.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  Not Pulisic, Balligan, Flo Balligan. Also, everybody, what did y'all think about the whole Trump shit with getting him off?

• 22:53Speaker 02

  It just felt, it, it's like, it might not even been the wrong thing. It just felt icky. Man.

• 23:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, you a turncoat.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Not even turncoat. He's like, don't stop being corrupt now.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  That's a good point. I like that.

• 23:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you better say it from all this shit like, let's do it.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  He's already corrupt.

• 23:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  Corrupt for us.

• 23:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  You corrupting for you and your family, corrupt for America.

• 23:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Don't stop being corrupt and start being ethical when we are trying to win a World Cup and our best player.

• 23:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  That was here for 10 minutes.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  With a full English accent.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Who's nasty, by the way.

• 23:29Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  We just don't even have the guys who can get him the rock. That's the problem. Cause that motherfucker is nasty, fast. Oh my God, it'll be terrifying.

• 23:37Mark Gagnon?

  An amazing number nine. You need a good number nine.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Who are we even watching the game with?

• 23:41Mark Gagnon?

  We experts over here.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  That's your jerk in, you need that.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  No, so yeah, so obviously we need more guys in the midfield and we have, weirdly, I thought that Americans would have speed. We have no speed on the ball, which was like very odd. Like I feel like we would get chased down in the midfield. So it's like, we don't have speed on the ball and then we didn't really seem to have size. I looked at some of these other guys that these teams playing, like even the small guys use their body and it's like impossible for the other team with one person to take the ball away from them. So it's like, yeah, we just got a big deficit with control.

• 24:14Mark Gagnon?

  You don't really need sides if you nice.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  And you know how to use your body.

• 24:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  And you're filled with HGH since you're seven.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  That's viral. How do we get our kids on that?

• 24:22Speaker 01

  I mean, why, we have it for every other sport. Why not start juicing up these fucking soccer players?

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. If we can make kids trans, make them, put them on testosterone. Put every kid on testosterone.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Messi's trans.

• 24:33Mark Gagnon?

  We need more.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  No, Messi's trans, bro. I don't think, I think that's a big dub for the trans community. He's trans.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Gender affirming care.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  It is super affirming, but it also like transitioned him into 5'9" or whatever, 5'8", whatever. He was supposed to be 5'2".

• 24:46Mark Gagnon?

  He's like trans-normal, cause he should have been a midget.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Exactly. Exactly.

• 24:53Speaker 01

  Think about that.

• 24:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  How is the trans community not owning this?

• 24:57Mark Gagnon?

  Trans-normal, right?

• 24:58Speaker 02

  I mean, everyone's trying to get a piece.

• 24:59Mark Gagnon?

  Big person. Maybe not normal, but trans big person.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  Everyone's trying to get a piece of Messi, bro.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Why? What you saying?

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Israel was like, yo, you know where Messi grew up?

• 25:12Speaker 01

  On Israel Street.

• 25:15Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 25:17Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, that tall ass retarded looking nigga, like, that's the guy.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  Who?

• 25:23Mark Gagnon?

  The one on Norway.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Early Holland.

• 25:24Mark Gagnon?

  He has a really retarded face. Nah, it's mad retarded.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Al, it is odd looking. It is odd looking.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  We can call him.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  It's striking. He's striking.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  He's striking.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  He's striking.

• 25:36Mark Gagnon?

  That's what you say when you see an ugly kid. It's like, ooh, he's got a striking face.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  I had to see if any of y'all called my son or daughter striking.

• 25:48Speaker 01

  You think, Holland, do you think that he has a peculiar looking face?

• 25:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I do think he will be the best soccer player of all time.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 25:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  I mean, if he can like pull off like a crazy run in this World Cup, it's not... He's one of the highest paid players in the world already.

• 26:05Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really?

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Can I, can I just make a statement real quick? Are Norwegians the, are they the finest of the white race?

• 26:16Mark Gagnon?

  Ooh.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  Like, if we had to just sit back...

• 26:19Mark Gagnon?

  We talking about fine, fine, or just?

• 26:21Speaker 01

  No, I mean, like, are they the best ethnic specimen that we have?

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Careful.

• 26:25Speaker 01

  I'm not, no. I was like, maybe Serbians are, like, because they, we're talking about undersized countries that over-deliver on athletic things.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Okay, alright, okay. You're digging it up.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  What I'm saying, what I mean, what I'm saying, tell me what I mean.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  What did I mean?

• 26:42Speaker 02

  What did I say that was wrong?

• 26:46Speaker 01

  No, I mean, like, like, that country has no people in it. They're the nicest at the winter sports.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, that, yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  They're nice as hell at soccer. Like, are they genetically the best whites?

• 26:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:57Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  The genetic part, it just, it feels...

• 27:03Speaker 01

  I'm only talking about white people when I say it.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  They're better than other genders.

• 27:08Mark Gagnon?

  Just the best of the whites.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  On the racist.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  I'm not saying it though. The best gender, I agree. I fully agree. You almost fit your mustache to the inky. What's her name? The mustache, what's the girl's name that gave you a mustache?

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Oh, Akiko.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  Akiko, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  We can talk about.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Cause Hitty, Hitty was big on the Norwegians.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  You're not gonna get me.

• 27:30Speaker 02

  No, I'm telling you Hitler was big on the Nor- he was big on like the Nordics. He was like, yo, the Nordics got it.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  You got a nickname?

• 27:36Speaker 02

  The Hitty? You just said it.

• 27:40Mark Gagnon?

  You know you like to do it.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  Just Hitty and Bebe holding hands.

• 27:48Mark Gagnon?

  Just nicknames for the worst human beings ever. Nah, such a nice man.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Adolfo was big on the Nordic, so you gotta.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Adolfo, dude.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, you got too many Hitler pods, bro. Like forty nicknames for the boy.

• 28:03Mark Gagnon?

  How do we stay demonetized? I mean monetized this shit?

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't have a name.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  Can we, can we just, alright, genetically speaking, is that the best whites? Serbians are up there too. They're nasty. They have three million people or something like that.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  I mean Ruski's, like, the, like.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Rockies.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  Rocky made, they made a whole movie off of the hottest white guy ever.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  But Mark, it's a fake movie. We're talking about real.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  No, but life imitates art, you know what I mean? Is that what it is?

• 28:28Speaker 01

  No, art imitates life.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  See, you got it.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  No, I don't got it.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, you disagree with me.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  Why we?

• 28:32Speaker 02

  You just said it.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  Why won't you just go there the, the, the most genetically gifted?

• 28:36Speaker 02

  No, this is art of conversation.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  You're making me feel like I'm saying something wrong. Let's do it with another race. Let's do it with another race.

• 28:52Mark Gagnon?

  What about the rugby whites?

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Okay, like the.

• 28:56Mark Gagnon?

  They're tough.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  No, they're very tough. They're, they're, it, look, they're very tough.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Like Australia?

• 29:02Mark Gagnon?

  Who are the rugby?

• 29:03Speaker 01

  But nobody's really sure if that's a real thing.

• 29:06Mark Gagnon?

  What you mean?

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Rugby. And with all due respect to guys who play rugby.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  But nobody's sure what it is.

• 29:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Like, have you watched it?

• 29:15Speaker 02

  Not on TV. I don't think they televise it.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  I don't even know if they know what.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Like when you watch it, you're like, are there rules to this shit?

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know if there are.

• 29:23Speaker 01

  They seem surprised sometimes.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  And wedgies are a part of the game, you see that?

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Part of the game.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  I don't know why they do that.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  There's a lot going on there, Dick.

• 29:30Mark Gagnon?

  Crash full speed just head on.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 29:33Mark Gagnon?

  That's a different, different type of way.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 29:35Mark Gagnon?

  It's a different type of way.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:36Mark Gagnon?

  We can, we can say that.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  Do you consider Samoans, like Maoris, Hawaiians, do you consider them Asian? Or is that Pacific Islander?

• 29:45Speaker 02

  I think it's his own thing.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  It's its own thing?

• 29:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  You can't consider them Asian?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Polynesian.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  Polynesian?

• 29:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're South Pacific Islander.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Pacific Islander. Okay, cuz if we were gonna say that's Asian.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  No, no, that's not.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Genetically speaking, you would have to give it to them. They're like freaks of nature.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Agility, strength, speed, like it's unbelievable. You've never seen anything like this before.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  Grew up on an island with no natural predators, they just grow, grow, grow.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 30:10Mark Gagnon?

  That's true.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  That is how it works.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  You have no natural predators and you have food that's plentiful, you just keep on growing, growing, growing.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  So you would have to give it to them, but you're excluding them from the Asian category.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  I don't know if they're Asian, they don't feel Asian in their souls. You know what I mean, they got tattoos and shit?

• 30:24Speaker 01

  They don't feel Asian spiritually is what you're saying.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  They're not spiritually Asian.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're their own thing. They're almost like Mongolian and I don't even really consider Mongolians Asian.

• 30:33Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, stop.

• 30:34Speaker 01

  I don't consider Mongolians, which is wrong.

• 30:37Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Because they, they really ran shit for a very long time.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:42Mark Gagnon?

  But that's Asian.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  But we're not really talking about them enough.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  It's kind of its own thing, I think.

• 30:46Mark Gagnon?

  What about the monkey whites? The stans and the s... There are monkey whites.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  I guess, I get how it feels now. I get how it feels now, because, oh, it always felt wrong.

• 31:02Mark Gagnon?

  Right?

• 31:02Speaker 01

  It always felt wrong.

• 31:03Mark Gagnon?

  But now.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  But now.

• 31:05Mark Gagnon?

  Now, yeah, yeah.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  That, now it's even, yeah, it's like, oh, the sting is different.

• 31:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  They might be Asian.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  No, they're Asian.

• 31:12Mark Gagnon?

  They're Asian, yeah.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  But that's like an Uzbek person?

• 31:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's Kazakh.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  I gotta say, they're a very impressive... They're very impressive for the Asians.

• 31:23Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  In terms of genetics.

• 31:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Very impressive.

• 31:26Mark Gagnon?

  Tree climbers?

• 31:29Speaker 01

  I don't think there's a lot of trees in the sand.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  I think there's step, there's like no trees.

• 31:33Mark Gagnon?

  Why you gotta step?

• 31:39Speaker 02

  Okay, the Norwegians are up there.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  Who else, who else?

• 31:43Speaker 02

  As far as whites?

• 31:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:44Mark Gagnon?

  If like.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  I mean, American whites.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  It's really gonna be up to Al to bring up anybody else. No, southern American whites. Southern American boys. I think they can get it done.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  I'll be honest with you, in terms of strength.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Stature.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Swag.

• 32:00Speaker 01

  Without a doubt.

• 32:01Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Athleticism? They're restricted to like playing lineman types of positions.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Where you don't need that fast switch. Let them hammer through, let them shot put. Let's see what they could do. I don't even know if they have that kind of technology.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  We're not really talking about that. We're not really talking about that. We're talking about athleticism, running and jumping.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  That's athleticism.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Just running and jumping.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  That's what athleticism is, running and jumping.

• 32:23Mark Gagnon?

  Endurance.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  I mean, looky Italians are like sneaky good at like random running shit. What place did they get it in the world?

• 32:35Speaker 01

  You're not even allowed to bring up a country that's not at the World Cup. This is before everyone cares about Austria. Bosnia.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  You see him bringing his boy back?

• 32:45Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 32:45Speaker 02

  You see him bringing his boy back? He don't even realize it. He don't even realize it, but he brought it back.

• 32:50Mark Gagnon?

  One of your own.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  I don't know. They might be, they might be the most athletic whites.

• 32:58Speaker 01

  All right, Al, what do you think?

• 33:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'mma just go with them, cuz I like this tall retarded looking guy.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  I mean, Al, Al, Al, he's a friend of the show. He's one of our best friends.

• 33:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but he has a sense of humor. He would like this.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  He is extremely funny.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  Yo, he got some good stuff.

• 33:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  You saw when the, the lady came up to him, they're like standing like in Airbnb, I guess, like in the Norwegian national team. And she's like, yeah, I heard, I heard one of y'all was a, a professional soccer player. And it's, she's talking to him and he's like, no, I'm just a social media guy. And he's like plays it off, just like fucks around.

• 33:28Mark Gagnon?

  See, I like that.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  He's just a nice guy.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Have you seen the one of him seeing his own reflection in the mirror and he got scared? That was good. Look at it, you can find out.

• 33:38Mark Gagnon?

  I'm not making that up.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  The fact that you're laughing at it means you agree with Al.

• 33:41Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly, you agree with me.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  And that is really...

• 33:43Mark Gagnon?

  No, I think you're... I'm the monster.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  I think you're pulling a funny right now, I don't even really believe you.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Why don't you look it up and see, and then see how horrible the person is.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  Okay, let me find out. Alright, Holland, uh...

• 33:54Speaker 01

  What jersey is that?

• 33:55Speaker 02

  This is France.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  This is Fr- what? What's the... What's the animal on that?

• 34:01Speaker 02

  That's a cut.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  That's a rooster. So that's their...

• 34:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's their thing.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  They never beat an allegation. They've really never beat an allegation, bro. All the animals you could pick.

• 34:10Mark Gagnon?

  You just now realized that shit?

• 34:11Speaker 01

  They're called the Roosters?

• 34:13Mark Gagnon?

  No, I mean, I don't know what they're called.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  That's like their national symbol. It's the Roosters.

• 34:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 34:18Mark Gagnon?

  We got a bald eagle.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  That's fire. Way better bird.

• 34:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  That's a good point, it's a different bird.

• 34:23Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but I don't like the fact that they shitting on American food, though. You heard that?

• 34:27Speaker 01

  Hold on, hold on, look at him, look at him, look at him.

• 34:29Mark Gagnon?

  Come on. Come on.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  See? The boy is funny.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Okay, you know what, my bad, my bad, my bad, you're right.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  Got my haircut. Nobody wanna give me credit. You know what I mean? Got my haircut, nobody wanna give me credit.

• 34:43Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, he's doing it way better than you, son.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  Nah, he let it flow, it's the Viking flow in the back. That's really what it is. I mean, what it is, what it is, he's a...

• 34:51Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, son.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  Striking.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  He's striking.

• 34:53Mark Gagnon?

  Striking, yeah, he's very striking.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  When he's at home and no one's around, you think he walks on his knuckles a little bit? Just when he's at home and nobody's around. Just the way he was chewing right there.

• 35:04Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  Just the way he was chewing.

• 35:07Mark Gagnon?

  You put love on his spectrum, he's a cast-. Stop it. Like, stop it.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  He just thinks it's the real world.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  You saw his walk when he walks off the field, he's like, lunging forward.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Frankenstein type shit. That motherfucker is a badass.

• 35:24Mark Gagnon?

  But I'm telling you, he will be the nicest player to ever play the sport.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 35:28Mark Gagnon?

  Mark my words.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  You see, you see the girl that's been going viral, cause she kinda looks like him?

• 35:32Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:33Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, whoa.

• 35:36Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  Chills.

• 35:39Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Bro, that is nuts.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Now he's in the Champions League.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, see, there you go.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, the Brits are the best at the, uh, the chants. Cause they're funny with it. Did you see the one with, uh, your shit, where they're playing Sweden? Your shit, your shit, your birds are fit, but your shit. That's just great.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  But that's like most of the game. That's what makes soccer so great. It's because there is a little bit of downtime, so in the meantime, you're kind of just like, it's like tailgating, but you're inside the arena. You know what I mean?

• 36:22Speaker 01

  I went to.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  That's a great way of looking at it.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  It's like hanging, you're drinking, you're talking shit.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  But it also exposes like the humor of your culture.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  And it exposes like some interesting things about a culture. So like, the Brits are kind of like witty, far, uh, they're witty, they're like funny, and, uh, they're musical. Brits are musical. And, uh, the Argentines are just like racist pieces of shit that hate Latin.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:46Speaker 02

  Why do all the South Americans hate Argentina?

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Son, when, sorry to cut you off this one, but when the guy called, uh, uh,

• 36:56Speaker 01

  disabled Uruguay.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  For Paraguay?

• 37:02Speaker 02

  That's funny.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  No, why do they all hate Argentina?

• 37:07Speaker 02

  I mean, I didn't know there was so much heat.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  I.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Racist fuck.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  We're uncovering new racism that didn't exist. Argentine, Argentine people are sick and they're like, cool, I think.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  But ask the South Americans.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  So the issue is that they really, I, I think, is they really identify with their European roots more so than most of the, uh, Central and South American countries. So like, they're all quick to be like, oh, my dad's Italian, or my, uh, my grandpa's this from Spain. And like, they'll, they're like, we're European, and I think they really branded about like European and like whiteness. And, uh, a lot of the other countries in, uh, Central, South America, uh, you know, at least, uh, while there is that colorism, they still adopted some of like the indigenous attitude and, uh, cultural effects.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  Really do have a racist history. Like, they were in battles and they would put all the black people on the front lines, and then when they won.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Who the fuck would do that, dude?

• 37:58Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  What country would do it? What country would go to a pointless war and then put all of them there?

• 38:03Speaker 02

  America?

• 38:04Speaker 01

  No, World War II, we didn't even let y'all fight.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Let y'all fight.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  You're welcome.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  You guys begged to be in an airplane. We're like, fine, let them fly around.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  Give them the one with the red tips. They'll find it first.

• 38:15Mark Gagnon?

  We were the nicest. We were the nicest.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, actually true.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess they were probably a little racist, the Argentinians.

• 38:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  But everyone is, every country in South America is racist. You don't think the Brazilians are racist?

• 38:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but like, when you're openly racist, like when they wanted to increase the population, they're like, only bring in white people. You know, kind of like.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Who else has done that?

• 38:39Mark Gagnon?

  You know, kind of like, you know.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Who else would do such a thing? That's annoying. We did a lot of the same shit and we're still terrible at soccer. Like, at least their racism got them a World Cup. You know what I mean?

• 38:47Mark Gagnon?

  No, we need more of those fucking soccer concentration camps.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a good point.

• 38:52Mark Gagnon?

  That's what we need.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  Wait, how does it work?

• 38:53Mark Gagnon?

  All the other countries, they got these fucking soccer camps where they pluck kids from South America and then they force them to play soccer until they're like 16.

• 39:02Speaker 01

  My understanding was that what happens here is that like, it's incredibly expensive to put your kid in a league soccer program, whereas like in Europe or South America, Central America, like as a young kid, you're already part of an institution and making that institution money. So like, you're at the youth academy for Barcelona or something like that, and like, they're selling tickets to those games. And like, you're contracted and they're lending you out to other teams. So it's basically, if you've created like a capitalist incentive to curate talent.

• 39:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but the country's also funding it.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Say again?

• 39:31Mark Gagnon?

  A country's also funding it.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Sure, sure.

• 39:34Mark Gagnon?

  Paying these kids way, but it's really cutthroat. The moment you stop playing good, you're out of school.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:40Mark Gagnon?

  So it's like.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, you hear stories about that every now and then. It'll be like a 20-year-old dude who's like homeless. And he's like, yeah, I was in like the Arsenal academy and then I got cut.

• 39:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. My girl told me in Spain, they take every single kid, put them in that school at a certain point, and then if you're not good, you're out. So like, every single person, they see if you have what it takes to be a soccer player. They don't do that here.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  There also is a cultural element. I don't know if you've seen this. A lot of people are saying that Brazil was way better when they were Catholic.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  They're not Catholic anymore?

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Nah, dude, they're all evangelical Protestants.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  What, what changed?

• 40:11Speaker 02

  They got, they sent the boys down there and they flipped them all.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  All of them?

• 40:14Speaker 02

  Thirty to forty percent.

• 40:15Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy? But back when they were Catholic, I mean, look at this. Evangelical Protestant sterilization has flattened their ball, ruined their samba and obliterated their swag.

• 40:25Mark Gagnon?

  That's funny.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  I mean, come on. You think a Protestant could do that? Dude, this is pure Ca- oh.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  That's Catholicism.

• 40:33Speaker 02

  That's Catholicism, bro. That's Catholic swag. They were, uh, Brazil was better when their players were womanizers, drunkards and slightly out of shape. When they were behaving like Catholics, letting the power of friendship and good fun do the heavy lifting.

• 40:44Mark Gagnon?

  That's funny.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  That's what we need.

• 40:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, you need the Ronaldo cut, bro. The old Ronaldo cut?

• 40:50Speaker 02

  Yo, just in the front?

• 40:51Mark Gagnon?

  It's not just that front joint, bro?

• 40:53Speaker 01

  Did you hear the story about why he did that?

• 40:55Mark Gagnon?

  No. Uh-oh.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  No, no, not even that. Not even that.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  No, uh, apparently he had some like, uh, ankle injury or something like that. And, uh, he didn't want people talking about it, so he shaved to just be like the front. Where the front of the hair is there, and then the whole conversation became about this like weird haircut that he had. And now the media stopped talking about the potential injury.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Fire, right?

• 41:20Speaker 01

  If that, if that is true.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  That's what Balligan should have done. He's like, everyone's talking about this red card, try this haircut. Boom. Just cut the sides.

• 41:27Mark Gagnon?

  He's nasty, that Balligan guy.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Nice, right?

• 41:30Speaker 01

  What team does he play for?

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Monaco.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, we need to get him off that shit. We need to get him on a real team.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, but Monaco's so nice.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  I mean, is it?

• 41:38Speaker 02

  No.

• 41:39Mark Gagnon?

  Why can't we just bribe players to play for us?

• 41:43Speaker 01

  What do you think we're doing?

• 41:44Mark Gagnon?

  No, no.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  What do you think we've been doing?

• 41:46Speaker 02

  No, but we're not doing it. The players have a few sign language to talk to each other. They're not, none of them speak English.

• 41:52Mark Gagnon?

  Kicking a ball, how much talking you got?

• 41:56Speaker 02

  Seeing them talk, I was so shocked hearing Malik Tillman talk. I was like, this guy's gotta be a, this guy's a pure blooded American, you know?

• 42:04Speaker 01

  And what did he say?

• 42:06Mark Gagnon?

  Pass me the ball! Put it on my header! Pass it!

• 42:10Speaker 01

  To me on this side. He's a German kid, right?

• 42:15Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure, yeah.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's it's just a little shocking. You're like, oh, wow, I didn't know that that was that was in there.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  Everything is huge over there. I mean, everything is just bigger.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  Also, the coach, doesn't Russell Crowe have movies to make and shit like, when did we get this guy? Do we like this guy?

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, everyone, everyone.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Everyone likes.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Especially in the group stage. I mean, granted, the way they went out wasn't great, but it seems like this has been a needed, a needed change.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Can I say one thing about the World Cup that I really love?

• 42:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Especially now that they've expanded it for entertainment purposes, not the fact that we get to let more teams in. It's the fact that you see better teams, elite teams play against dog shit teams. And when the games are close, it's incredibly exciting because there's a dog shit team that shouldn't be in it or have a fucking chance.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  No team is dog shit, but I.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? This is a good, wrong way to describe it, but like it's a team that's a severe underdog. But also, especially in the group stage, you got to see the stars behave like stars. So if you're a complete casual and you're like, you know, I've never seen Ronaldo actually play and you like see him scoring some goals or oh, this guy's nice. Or if you've never, you've heard Holland and you're like, I want to watch this guy hat trick and he just tees off on someone. You're like, oh, this is great. Literally in the group stage, it was like all the stars showed up and had multiple goal games.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  You can't ask for anything better.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  And then you move out of the group stage. Some of the underdog teams go in as well. So now you're super excited. This is great. And then once you get into the knockout rounds, the games get a little more conservative. It feels like we were lucky. But like you have a little more of these like zero, zero games where they end in penalties. I imagine that's teams going, hey, we're not going to take as many chances against this, this other team. We gotta stay in the box. Is that kind of what the?

• 43:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you can, depending on the team in the matchup, if you can drag them to penalties, it's not a bad move.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Because penalties, all of a sudden you're almost even again.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, but then finish the pressure. Who can deal with the pressure?

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  And if you're the underdog, you're like, dude, we made it this far. This is great.

• 44:09Speaker 01

  So there's an argument to be made that they shouldn't.

• 44:11Mark Gagnon?

  Let penalties decide the game.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  It's a heartbreaking.

• 44:14Mark Gagnon?

  I'm not a fan of that.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Tell me what your thoughts are.

• 44:17Mark Gagnon?

  It's like, because I'm just used to our sports where it's like, hey, you play until there's a winner. But like, you play the actual game you're playing. Penalty kicks is like, it just feels like a completely different game. It's like, hey, we're just guessing. It's not that much skill. Of course, you have to get it on target, but still, it's not that much.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  But it's also so exciting. It's literally like, hey, this game has gone so long, we played for two hours.

• 44:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  And we don't have a winner. So now it's just going to come down to who can handle pressure psychologically the best.

• 44:45Mark Gagnon?

  I get that, but like tennis, for example, like they'll just keep going. Like the game could be, that was the longest game ever, like five hours and 15 minutes. Imagine doing that and you're running the entire time for five hours and 15 minutes until somebody just, hey, I can't do it.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  Let me make a pitch.

• 45:00Mark Gagnon?

  That shit is fire.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  I think hockey does this. Remove a player.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Open up a little bit more room.

• 45:09Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  Because the issue, obviously, with soccer is that it's hard to score. So if you just keep on adding more overtimes, you might be there for fucking five hours and it's just exhausting. And then, you know, somebody's going to get injured or whatever's going to happen. I imagine that's the idea. Also TV time and all these things. All right, guys, take a break for a second. Uh, you know what's funny? We order everything online. Groceries, clothes, electronics, food. When it's time to stock up for the weekend, people are still driving around, hoping some random smoke shop has what they're looking for. Why? Okay, that's why everything 420 app is the best solution for this last minute madness. Thinking in the future madness, basically Amazon for all your smoke sesh essentials.

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• 48:58Mark Gagnon?

  The red card rule, don't like that. I don't like that you're out the following game as well. I think you should be out the amount of time that was left in the game.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  Oh, that's kind of fun. Okay.

• 49:15Mark Gagnon?

  Cause like to make a team have to lose a player, especially like granted, it was turned over. The call was reversed, but that was a bad call. Like we all knew that was a bad call with the American player. Like it wasn't a real red, like you real red is like, oh, he was intentionally trying to do that. And it's like, he wasn't intentional.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  To go from no foul to a red is a little tough. Like a yellow, you get it.

• 49:37Mark Gagnon?

  And that's what I'm saying. I think that would be, that would be a better rule for red cards.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's something to be about that.

• 49:43Mark Gagnon?

  Now that it's our sport, let's fix it.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you gotta fix it.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  Well, this is how the MLS used to settle games. Have you seen this?

• 49:51Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  How is this received internationally?

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Terribly.

• 49:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 49:56Speaker 02

  So you get three touches, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think you get three touches once you go.

• 50:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so they just run at it?

• 50:04Speaker 01

  But the goalie is also allowed to come out. Whereas in penalty kicks, the goalie can't come out.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like an Oklahoma drill. So you do a breakaway and you try to score on.

• 50:14Mark Gagnon?

  I kind of like that a little bit better because that's more, it's closer to the game.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's true. A little more skill.

• 50:20Mark Gagnon?

  I like this better, yeah.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  So they would just run him down and try to chip it in. Kind of crazy. But they, they got rid of this pretty quickly.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Why? People didn't like it?

• 50:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think just like international soccer fans were like, this is absurd. Uh, this is interesting. Top comment here says this type of penalty wouldn't work in Europe because players would just chip it over their goalkeeper every time.

• 50:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I mean, the goalkeeper doesn't have to run up.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  But if they don't run up, then they're cooked. Yeah.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  But yeah, there's a, did you see the guy from Congo? The fan that would just stand there the whole time?

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  You saw this?

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  The way you said it makes me think.

• 50:59Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think you did.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  I did see it. He was wearing a suit and he just has his hand in the air.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Lumumba or something like that?

• 51:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:05Mark Gagnon?

  What was his name? I haven't seen it. Pull it up.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Lumumba, Lumumba?

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Lumumba?

• 51:09Mark Gagnon?

  I feel like I'm being racist right now.

• 51:10Speaker 02

  No, he would go to every game for Congo, just stand there. Lumumba. And he would stand for 90 minutes.

• 51:17Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  In the suit, just posted up.

• 51:19Mark Gagnon?

  Fire.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  And he's dressed as the old Congolese president.

• 51:26Mark Gagnon?

  Did he say, did he say why he does it?

• 51:29Speaker 02

  I think it's just like morale. He's like a beloved like icon politically in Congo. Like after they basically got rid of the Belgians, this guy was in charge. And then he got assassinated, then they put in a pro Belgian president in the Congo.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  Is that the guy?

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Patrice Lumumba? That's who this is, Lumumba.

• 51:48Mark Gagnon?

  Is this the guy?

• 51:49Speaker 02

  And then they put in Mabuto, I think, or Mabuto.

• 51:50Mark Gagnon?

  Did you guys see that clip? Is that the guy in the clip? He's like, corruption is bad unless I'm a part of it.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:57Mark Gagnon?

  I said, right?

• 51:57Speaker 02

  Fire, was that?

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Love that take. Love that take. Hot take.

• 52:01Mark Gagnon?

  That's fire.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  That's kind of, that's kind of what we're saying with this red card with, with Balligan. You know what I'm saying?

• 52:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  I love that, I love that FIFA said that Belgium has the right to appeal the call. And then they appealed it and they were like, nope.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Fire. And then dude, me and Schultz were watching this live.

• 52:19Speaker 01

  Bro, can you pause? When you watch something that you know is going to be a meme or viral in real time, it's special.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  It's a joy, right?

• 52:27Speaker 01

  It is a real joy because you know it's going to end up being a meme or it's going viral.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  And you're getting to see it first.

• 52:34Mark Gagnon?

  First, yeah.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Harry Kane, which for the record, a legend. I didn't know this about Harry Kane, married his high school sweetheart, been in the game 20 years, all time striker, all time leading goal scorer for England, never had a scandal, just like a great dude.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  Like also was kicked out of the Arsenal like youth team, kicked out of some other youth team, like said he was never good enough.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Made it work and became a legend. And then England wins and this is his interview.

• 52:56Speaker 04

  Ask you, what's happened over there by the England goal because there looks to be some concern? Yeah, children, my voice is gone. Hello, just there. Um, I think he's okay. Just uh, signed it with his arm. Okay, well, as for the performance, uh, I think it does it all the site that your voice has gone. That was some contest to watch.

• 53:14Mark Gagnon?

  She keeps it in her teeth.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  She knows.

• 53:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was a crazy game. Um, we had, we had to fight.

• 53:23Speaker 01

  We had, we had to fight.

• 53:24Mark Gagnon?

  Have you seen that like, uh, that, that TV show or something in the Netherlands when the guy has the weird voice he's interviewing? He sounds just like this.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 53:32Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, is this where everyone laughs?

• 53:34Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 53:34Mark Gagnon?

  Everyone like laughs uncontrollably? Oh, let me see.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Doesn't matter. Not worth looking it up.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  Shout out to Scottish also.

• 53:44Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Shout out to Scottish. Scottish, we love you. We love you.

• 53:47Mark Gagnon?

  Why?

• 53:48Speaker 01

  If God, uh, if God created the earth, if the earth is, is, is God's masterpiece, the Scottish are his finest detail, Alex.

• 53:59Mark Gagnon?

  Why?

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Because they have no reason to be as joyful, happy and like share as much joy and enthusiasm with life as they do. They have every reason to be upset. You know, they've had, you know, their freedom taken from them. They've been enslaved, but you know, they've been colonized. They still have this incredibly like frustrated and angry relationship towards the English. Uh, they've had their natural resources sapped. And, uh, yet they still are positive, enthusiastic, loving people. They like bring joy wherever they go. Like whenever Scottish people are in a place, there's nobody that is upset about it. I used to witness it every summer. My Scottish family would like come stay with us and they'd basically babysit me for the summer. The exact thing that happened in Boston would happen in this little town and fire out.

• 54:45Mark Gagnon?

  This shit makes so much sense because you were.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  I'm gonna kill it.

• 54:49Mark Gagnon?

  Dude, he hates the French.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  I know.

• 54:53Mark Gagnon?

  He smacked my car. You really love Mexicans?

• 54:57Speaker 01

  They're the, they're, yes.

• 54:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, Scottish are the Mexicans of the white.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  No, they're the Mexicans of your, for sure. And it like, and I feel the same way around Mexicans. I'm here. It is like pure joy, enthusiasm, excitement, like positivity about life. Hard as work. Like if you're not hardworking, you're, you're just like a pussy. They look down on you, but they have every reason to be upset, frustrated, angry, like. Just kind of like devolve into like victim mindset and they don't they just persevere succeed spread joy drink be merry sing song like wherever they go

• 55:32Speaker 02

  They took over Fenway?

• 55:44Mark Gagnon?

  I wish I knew somebody's chants the chants maybe it's

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Bro a tear to my eye watching them just becomes just come over and just being so loved too like the people of Boston people of Boston are like tough guys this is not they're not like you know the most like cheerful happy go lucky they're hilarious people but they're not the type of people that will just like speak openly about their feelings this is like a Catholic repressive culture and they were just like I saw guys getting emotional they're like I think we need to bring them back or something maybe and it was just like they gave so they brought so much joy and excitement and there was just this reminder that like life can be fun even when it

• 56:28Speaker 01

  sucks you can instill joy into horribly shitty situations and like if that is the cultural export of the Scottish fucking God bless them for it yeah cuz that's what they do yeah they drank the whole city dry it was so cool we went to Cheers bar yesterday for two pints and we stayed for 20 one of the guys that interviewed and yeah I you know what's really cool about the World Cup is like the the rest of the world

• 56:55Speaker 01

  realizing they've been propagandized about America you know and like we're propagandized about America yeah so like both two things happens at once the rest of the world came here and they were like wait they're not all violent it's just shooting people and they're actually really welcoming and they they they like Americans love it when you love our shit and like love him or hate him but like the Borat character and I think he takes advantage of people who are being very kind Sacha Baron Cohen and it's he's got a lot of hilarious shit but at the end of the day it's like he is taking advantage of kindness and like exploiting people and making look stupid but like if you notice kind of like wherever Borat goes or Ali G goes like he's saying wild shit and the Americans are kind of be like oh you kind of don't understand what I'm trying to say is it's like they're just giving you a chance doesn't matter where you're from we're like giving you

• 57:39Speaker 01

  a fucking chance yeah complete foreigner comes into your town with a camera and you're like yeah have dinner at our house come stay over and then he just makes you look like racist asshole.

• 57:47Mark Gagnon?

  But that's what I was gonna say about people from Boston. I feel like they kinda got a bad rap, just like New Yorkers. You know how people think New Yorkers are rude or whatever. It's like, yeah, we're the kindest.

• 57:55Speaker 01

  Kindest, most loving.

• 57:56Mark Gagnon?

  I think the same about, every time I've been to Boston, it's like, it's been all about. Even though they have the history of being a little racist, I've never seen it.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, look.

• 58:05Mark Gagnon?

  I'm sure it exists, but I.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  I'm sure it's there. And I'm sure all these people coming over for the World Cup, there's definitely Americans who are like, nice because they know that they're leaving.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  There's other, some Americans are like, we love visitors.

• 58:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  You're visiting, right?

• 58:20Speaker 01

  But it was, it was really cool, one, to see these Europeans go like, wow, like, there's really amazing things in America.

• 58:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  And Americans, for a moment, I felt it myself, just being like, America is great. We are great people. We are kind and we are welcoming. We're loving. We want to see you have a good time. And if you're having a good time, enjoying our shit, we want to make sure it's the best.

• 58:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  I think that like, sometimes when you see like, you see like Chinese tourists, and where they come in a bus, they have a flag, they all kinda travel around like lemmings and then they go back in. It's not as fun. You're not enjoying it with us. When you see a couple fucking like, random like, Polish people in a bar and they're like, oh, we're so excited to be here. Americans will just bring you into their art group and will make sure you have the best fucking time.

• 59:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 59:04Speaker 01

  And it was cool for them to win.

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Dude, even being in France for like a week, like, my little baby would walk from the, like, at the park and would walk to someone else's like little picnic. And they wouldn't talk to him.

• 59:16Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 59:16Speaker 02

  And it's not that they're being rude, it's that there's a social norm.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  Their social norm is rude.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  It's that.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  They developed it for centuries.

• 59:24Speaker 02

  They're like, hey, we're not gonna just like randomly talk to someone like that. Like, hey, we, like, where's the parents? Like, my, my mom would say, when we were living in France, other parents wouldn't hang out, like, they wouldn't let their kids hang out with my parents' kids, like, my siblings, unless they met the parents. So like, my brothers would try to hang out with other French kids, be like, hey, you wanna come over? And they'd be like, no. And it sounds rude, but the, the cultural norm is like, the parents have to meet each other.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  And then they can.

• 59:51Speaker 02

  And then they can go. And everyone knows the rules, so it's fine.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  But then when an outsider comes in without knowing the rules, then all of a sudden, there's tension.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  It's a little different.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  Whereas in America, there's like, not really any rules. Like, it's just like.

• 1:00:01Mark Gagnon?

  It's just how they treat the gap.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  There's always the weird family on the block like, do not go to that.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  You gotta meet the parents. Are your dads out of town? Ah, I guess it never happens.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  No, that is, but no, the French are, the French are interesting because they have, they have literally refined to perfection the pleasantries of life.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  Like any indulgence, smell, taste, experience.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  Bro, the catacombs.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Like a cemetery.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Millions of people die and they're like, we're gonna make it beautiful. We're gonna make it nice.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  That is, that is their gift to the world and we all benefit from that, right?

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  We benefit from it in food.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Gardens of Versailles.

• 1:00:43Speaker 02

  You walk around and you're like, oh dude, they snapped on them.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  They snapped.

• 1:00:46Speaker 02

  I went when I was a kid and I was like, alright, it's a garden.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  But then you go other places in the world, you're like, oh, these gardens are fine.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  And they snapped to snap. The whole thing was a hustle. They were broke. They had, did you hear the story about like, there was a time where they were so broke, they couldn't keep all the fountains going on at the same time?

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  But the hustle was, being French at that time was looked at as like, especially like the, um, the, the monarchy, was looked at as like the, the most elite human experience. So that they would have these like leaders from all around the world that would just come to say hi to Louis V or whoever.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  Fourteenth.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  Fourteenth, the sun king or whatever.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  Sixteenth was the sun king.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Okay, well, whatever which one it was. They would just come to say hi, but they were broke, but they knew they had to keep on the charade, keep up the charade. So when you would walk the gardens, the second you moved out of one fountain, they would turn that shit off and turn on the next one. So they were running like a, like a Ponzi scheme.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  The first people like Lisa Yuris, you know what I mean?

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  With like the, the pink Yuris, you know what I mean?

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  But they figured out, like, food is, they figured all these things out. With that though, comes a, like elitism or arrogance that is off putting, that like, the Italians don't have.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:01:57Speaker 01

  Italians have this like rich food culture.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Southern Italians.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  That is, well, the northern Italians are German. Nobody wants to admit it, but they are. It's like, you're a fucking bus stop away from Germany. You're fucking German. But like, you could let your kid just walk around in a random town in Italy and they will, that's their kid that day.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  There was, there was one group of ladies that picked up my baby and they were like, look how cute he is, da, da, da, da. And I was like, oh, see, no, French people, Spanish.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  Spanish too.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they were Spanish and they loved him. But there's just like rules. Just like unwritten rules. Like my dad had a funny story. He, when they first moved to France, he walked up to a guy at a grocery store and goes, uh, excuse me, where's the, the bread aisle? And the guy just looks at him and goes, we say hello first.

• 1:02:40Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  And it is kind of an unwritten rule. Then when you walk up to someone, you say hello. And in America, we don't really think about it. You just kind of go up to a guy like, hey, excuse me, because everyone's kind of in a rush. But there it's like, and my dad's explanation was like during the monarchy times, everything was like very hierarchical.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  And so you had to treat everyone with respect because the people that were lower didn't want to feel like they were lower. So they all upheld the standard. They were like, no, no, you have to respect me. It's all about like, look me in the eye, say hello.

• 1:03:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, they really didn't fuck with the gag.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  These French Canadians going over there, like, hey, what's up?

• 1:03:12Mark Gagnon?

  Get me the fuck out of here, bro.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Nah, that shit is.

• 1:03:15Mark Gagnon?

  That was disrespectful. He should have slapped him. What?

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  That is what my dad said.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  I wonder, I wonder if you could track like how sexy a culture is by how much of is left of it in the colonized places. So like if you go to like parts of like northern Africa where the French colonized, you see remnants of like French aesthetic. You see like cultural affects, like there's obviously like language there, but language is a different thing. I'm talking about like how people exist in space. Like if the culture that colonized you is super sexy, even though you're like, fuck you, you guys are colonizers, but you're like, not as perfume is kind of fire and like making shit look beautiful. Like we like the aesthetic and we're going to keep some of that kind of stuff. Whereas like, I don't know if you go to Nigeria and you see like remnants of British culture.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if they're like, yeah, we want to look British. Maybe they, maybe we do. I don't know.

• 1:04:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 1:04:14Mark Gagnon?

  Part of them still speak English, so.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  Well, that's what I'm saying. Language, language is different because once you make their language illegal, they feel more comfortable.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  Nigeria's already eating like beans on toast.

• 1:04:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:04:25Mark Gagnon?

  I don't even think English people eat shit like, I think they just keep it on the menu just because, but they don't even eat that shit.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  They love it, bro.

• 1:04:32Mark Gagnon?

  They love that shit.

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  The start of the movie that I'm doing.

• 1:04:34Mark Gagnon?

  Blood sausage.

• 1:04:35Speaker 01

  And he was talking about it and he was like. He was like euphoric talking about it. Oh, you put the Vegemite, but it's not Vegemite, it's whatever their Vegemite is.

• 1:04:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  I don't know what it's called. But this, you put a little of that, and then the beans, you let it soak and like.

• 1:04:51Mark Gagnon?

  Ah.

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  It's like he's describing prison food.

• 1:04:54Mark Gagnon?

  I'm speaking of Brooks from Shawshank Redemption. Like, what the fuck is happening right now? I think that's the worst breakfast in the world.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  Yo, here's the thing.

• 1:05:04Mark Gagnon?

  I can't think of a worse breakfast.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. This is something that.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  Now, the beans are kind of fire. I like, I do like the beans.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  They blend as fuck.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  It's not, it's not the best, it's not the best.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  It's not good.

• 1:05:12Mark Gagnon?

  It's like they open the can and just put it.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Bush's, Bush's baked beans?

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Those are fire. I didn't realize they have sugar in them.

• 1:05:20Speaker 01

  Chill, chill, of course.

• 1:05:21Mark Gagnon?

  It's American.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  I really, you know, I was like, babe, why are these so good? She's like, it's full of sugar. I was like, no, it's beans. Beans aren't, beans don't have sugar, it's protein.

• 1:05:29Mark Gagnon?

  America got you.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  America got you.

• 1:05:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  Tried that British, we're like, he's missing a very key ingredient. We turn it into Kool-Aid. Yo, how we turn beans into Kool-Aid, bro?

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  Put a slice of pineapple in there and soak it.

• 1:05:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Another great World Cup story, this guy.

• 1:05:48Mark Gagnon?

  Real quick about Britain, though?

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  Hmm. Britain, British dessert? You can shit on British food all you want.

• 1:05:55Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  British, like, dessert?

• 1:05:58Mark Gagnon?

  What's one of that is a dessert?

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  All those baked goods? Pies, the shortbreads, all that kind of shit, they're nasty when it comes to desserts.

• 1:06:06Mark Gagnon?

  I'll give you the short, the shortbread, but what else?

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not touching the French.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  Have you not watched Bake Off? French are the best.

• 1:06:12Mark Gagnon?

  Too close to France, they even care about them.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  France, France is the best, that's what I'm saying. There's gotta be a best.

• 1:06:17Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  The French are the best. Number two is British, bro.

• 1:06:21Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  You tell me. You tell me a number two.

• 1:06:24Mark Gagnon?

  Son, Latin America has delicious.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, even just like a churro.

• 1:06:29Mark Gagnon?

  Even Asians got kind of fire shit.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  Yo, a little sesame ice cream.

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, what's the green one?

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Snot on ice cream, mochi, whatever that is.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:38Mark Gagnon?

  Mango rice?

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  No, sticky mango rice.

• 1:06:40Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, son.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  I forgot about that.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  I forgot about that. You can't use, you can't use your main ingredient for the whole meal and in dessert.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:06:49Speaker 01

  That's definitionally poverty.

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  That's definitionally poverty. If rice is what you giving me for the appetizer, the main shit and dessert? You're poor.

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Nah nah nah.

• 1:07:01Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, they can be poor, but make the shit fire. Like if it's slats, it's slats.

• 1:07:04Speaker 01

  If British put beans in the dessert?

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Oh, they're so good with sugar?

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  The Japanese trying to do that shit nasty.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  Oh, the red bean paste?

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  Keep your paste. Keep your fucking paste. We're not doing it.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  That shit sucks.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  No, the French are number one when it comes to pastries, all that kinda shit.

• 1:07:21Mark Gagnon?

  Of course.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  Italians can't do dessert. No, tiramisu isn't that Italian?

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Here's the thing with the Italians.

• 1:07:27Mark Gagnon?

  That's Italian?

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Gelato?

• 1:07:29Mark Gagnon?

  Gelato's Italian.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, gelato, gelato. What are we talking about here? It's like, it's so great, an ice cream. I love the Italians. I love them. When it comes to dessert?

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  Cannoli?

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  It's French.

• 1:07:41Speaker 02

  No, of course, I wear a green hat.

• 1:07:43Mark Gagnon?

  Cannoli's overrated, so they, their shit's ain't even that great.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  It's wack. Yeah, like who's cool with it?

• 1:07:50Mark Gagnon?

  And I hate when somebody brings that shit to the party. I'm like, come on.

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  I want Italians, I want Italians to have everything better than the French because I love them so much. But we have to call it like it is. Like if you're not gonna cook with fucking butter, you can't make dessert.

• 1:08:05Mark Gagnon?

  Get it out of here.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Olive oil is not gonna make good dessert.

• 1:08:08Speaker 02

  But what about the English though? You're saying English is number two? I still haven't heard a good English dessert.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  Go look up best English dessert. Do you watch British Bake Off? It's not called, Italian Bake Off, it's not called Portuguese Bake Off, it's not called Puerto Rican Bake Off.

• 1:08:20Mark Gagnon?

  Just shortbread cookies off rip is fucking delicious.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Now they got all the pie, they have a million desserts.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  Sticky toffee pudding?

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:08:28Mark Gagnon?

  Who's got banana pudding?

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  Oh, an apple crumble? An apple crumble? Oh yeah, America, how you leaving us out?

• 1:08:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we are the best.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  We have mad dessert.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  No, America's obviously the best.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  No, no, America's obviously the best.

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  Let me, let me. Who even thinks of that?

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Let me back up, let me back up. Can I back up? Can I, can I?

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Let me back up. French are number one.

• 1:08:52Speaker 01

  America is number one B.

• 1:08:54Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  But let me clarify this. This is, this needs clarification, okay?

• 1:09:00Mark Gagnon?

  Cause it's not refined.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  But, but.

• 1:09:02Mark Gagnon?

  But it's better.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  Our ghetto dessert.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  Nobody fucks with our ghetto dessert. A fucking brownie that's been on a shelf for two years with a scoop of.

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  Oh, ice cream brownies? Oh, we're talking my language, Little Debbie?

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  That's what I'm talking about. Our ghetto dessert. Our non-refined dessert. Don't give me a refined American dessert. We don't want it.

• 1:09:24Speaker 02

  You ever made puppy chow?

• 1:09:26Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, puppy chow rule.

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  Oh, no, no, I do know.

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  You take a Tex mix, you get some chocolate, you mix it in a trash bag, eat it out the trash.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  It's incredible.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  Yo, Rice Krispie treat. Europe is not fucking with a Rice Krispie treat.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  No, I don't think they can handle it.

• 1:09:41Mark Gagnon?

  They can't snack.

• 1:09:43Speaker 02

  Yo, facts.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Give me British, but British is not there, yo.

• 1:09:46Mark Gagnon?

  Be one.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Oh, the Victoria's sponge.

• 1:09:49Mark Gagnon?

  Be one with desserts.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  No, the sponge cake is.

• 1:09:52Mark Gagnon?

  The Victoria's sponge?

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  It's a cake. It's just a cake. The Benafi pie? Come on, son, go down, go down.

• 1:09:58Mark Gagnon?

  That's all the real time. Now I'm thinking about, we might be.

• 1:10:00Speaker 01

  Who made Red Velvet?

• 1:10:01Mark Gagnon?

  We're number, we did. I'm claiming that. Cause it's cream cheese on it. That's us. Cream cheese is us, right?

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna see where it came from.

• 1:10:12Mark Gagnon?

  Isn't Red Velvet just chocolate and red color?

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  Yo, yo, yo.

• 1:10:14Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's cream cheese frosting.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  Don't ruin it.

• 1:10:17Mark Gagnon?

  But the color.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  Don't ruin it.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  It's unknown where it started, but Southern United States in the early 20th century.

• 1:10:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, come on, so sorry, pardon my left, pardon my left, love you.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, we kinda got dessert.

• 1:10:28Mark Gagnon?

  We got, I think we're the best. I, we did.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  You're right. I'm gonna give you your right.

• 1:10:34Mark Gagnon?

  To dessert. We took pizza, made it better. Pizza here is better than pizza in Italy.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  I'm gonna be honest with you on that one. I'm gonna be dead serious, 100% honesty.

• 1:10:43Mark Gagnon?

  Non-Napoleon whatever shit.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  Their pizza, pizza there. I'm just being flat honest with you.

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  Is better.

• 1:10:53Mark Gagnon?

  Stop it, stop it. Where'd you go in Italy? You're doing the refined shit.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  No, no!

• 1:10:58Mark Gagnon?

  That's street pizza, floppy little bullshit, Napoleon pizza, come on, nobody wants that shit.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Napoleon pizza.

• 1:11:04Mark Gagnon?

  What is it called?

• 1:11:07Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, what is it called?

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  It might be, but I know in your head, you just imagine some short guy making the fried pizza.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  Naples.

• 1:11:14Mark Gagnon?

  Neapolitan, Neapolitan, Neapolitan.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  Have you seen how the Europeans are doing with ranch?

• 1:11:19Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta eat it with a.

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  They're selling ranch at the airport now.

• 1:11:22Mark Gagnon?

  They love.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Cause we put them on ranch.

• 1:11:24Speaker 02

  Apparently TSA put out a statement saying you can't bring ranch on the plane, stop putting it in your carry on.

• 1:11:29Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Because all the Europeans were taking ranch.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Can I tell you something?

• 1:11:33Mark Gagnon?

  We're the best.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  Condiments, not sauces. Sauces, unfortunately, you're probably gonna have to go.

• 1:11:41Mark Gagnon?

  Asian.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  Asia.

• 1:11:42Mark Gagnon?

  Gotta go Asian.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  You have to go Asia.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Is curry the sauce?

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Curry is a sauce to me.

• 1:11:47Mark Gagnon?

  That's a soup.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  All the glaze, all the Thai glaze is all that shit, whatever that is.

• 1:11:52Mark Gagnon?

  Peanut sauce.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  They got it, bro. They got it.

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  Condiments.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  It's not, they don't even have Heinz in fucking Europe, bro.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, sad.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  They don't even have Heinz.

• 1:12:06Mark Gagnon?

  But we American.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  What the hell is going on over there?

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  What are they dipping in?

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  You got no AC, you got no ice in a Coke, and you got no Heinz? How am I supposed to have a hamburger in peace?

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  They don't even really know how to do that.

• 1:12:20Mark Gagnon?

  They put mayo.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  They put mayo.

• 1:12:22Mark Gagnon?

  And it's not even the good mayo too.

• 1:12:24Speaker 01

  Their mayo is too gelatinous.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  They gotta turn it into aioli because their regular mayo sucks. Our regular mayo starts as aioli.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  We don't even have, wait, why would you have mayo when you could start with aioli?

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  That's a good point.

• 1:12:43Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, man.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  I'm with you.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Cut out the middleman. Get some AC, Mark said 40,000 Frenchmen died during the heat wave that they blamed on America.

• 1:12:52Mark Gagnon?

  A lot of Spanish died too, yeah.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Because of no AC.

• 1:12:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 1:12:56Speaker 01

  You need air conditioning, guys.

• 1:12:58Mark Gagnon?

  Need ice.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  You need ice.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  The Green Party of France is like the most ecologically friendly party, they came out with an official statement and said, you know what, guys? We approve of AC. Sent shockwaves to the French.

• 1:13:10Mark Gagnon?

  Really, okay.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  They couldn't believe it. But finally, they were like, yeah, we're gonna do.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  And when we clarify, when we say AC. It's seventy-two and below.

• 1:13:21Speaker 01

  Seventy-two degrees and below.

• 1:13:24Mark Gagnon?

  You're even a little high with that one, but I'll, I'll let you rock.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  I know Zorro was saying, keep it at seventy-eight.

• 1:13:30Mark Gagnon?

  Easy, easy.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  This is, this is America.

• 1:13:33Mark Gagnon?

  He was feeling a little too good. Knicks at five. He was like off the highs. He's like, ah, we don't need it, but he was wild.

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  I put my shit to sixty-four just to spite him even suggesting such a thing. Our AC blew out.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  It was cold for a little.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  It was cold.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  It blew the fuck out. So maybe it was right, but, but there's no, we're not doing the restrictions on the AC in America. What's the point?

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  Now, you gotta turn off Times Square first.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  Turn it off.

• 1:13:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  Turn off, turn off the billboard and then I'll turn off the AC. Yo, can you keep, can you keep going?

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  Why does Coca-Cola get to run all their shit and I gotta be hot? That just seems crazy to me. You're asking me to come AC off.

• 1:14:10Mark Gagnon?

  He's back.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  Let's just, let's just, let's do order of operations.

• 1:14:13Mark Gagnon?

  Cook.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  Order of operations.

• 1:14:16Mark Gagnon?

  I like.

• 1:14:16Speaker 02

  That's all I'm saying.

• 1:14:17Mark Gagnon?

  I like this.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  Keep, keep going on this, cause this is what I like. Cause I had an emotional reaction and you got some logical facts behind it.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:14:25Speaker 01

  Keep going on this one. What else should we turn off?

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Gracie Mansion.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  That shit gotta be.

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  We gotta, we gotta make that seventy-five degrees. You know what I mean? Seventy-eight maybe.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  Eighty?

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And then office buildings, Goldman Sachs, bump it up. And then you work your way all the way down. I think we need, I think we need official order and you put on a billboard with lights and you go, oh, we're in this zone right here. Times Square.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  I need to know the, the whole city hall or whatever it is at seventy-eight before my baby's cooking.

• 1:14:52Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  My baby doesn't need to cook.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  Turn it off.

• 1:14:55Speaker 01

  Cause I've been paying my AC bill.

• 1:14:58Mark Gagnon?

  I know in the subway, I know in the subway.

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  Street lights in a dark alleyway, turn them off.

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  Turn it off.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:15:05Speaker 01

  Snatch and grab.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  ICU, they're gonna die anyway. Turn it off.

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna sweat. He's eighty years old.

• 1:15:13Speaker 01

  Again, we got kids, bro. We got kids.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, my kid's gonna live so long. It's like your red card rule. It's not gonna take years off my kid's life. This guy's eighty-two, smoking, trying to get a kidney transplant.

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  I like that. Turn off Times Square, bro.

• 1:15:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. It'd be also so cool if it was all blacked out to see it.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 1:15:32Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know about that, but yeah.

• 1:15:33Speaker 02

  That'd be awesome.

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  All I'm saying is this is America. We don't throttle. We don't throttle air conditioning. There's not, we're not, we're not gonna have.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  This life of abundance here and then start throttling air conditioning. Exactly. We're not gonna do two ice cubes in your Coca-Cola because we're gonna run out of ice. Turn on those wind fans, make more wind, cool us down.

• 1:15:55Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 1:15:55Speaker 02

  Exactly. Out in the fields with the giant things.

• 1:15:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Mark Gagnon?

  I like that.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:16:01Mark Gagnon?

  I like this.

• 1:16:02Speaker 02

  Am I crazy?

• 1:16:02Mark Gagnon?

  Mark is back.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  Mark is back.

• 1:16:04Mark Gagnon?

  He's back.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  All he has to do is go to Europe for two weeks and he realized how amazing America is. Oh my god. Nothing feels better than going back after you've been in Europe for a while and you go into like the the customs line and the guy stamps your shit, welcome back. Welcome back, bro. Seventy-two. I feel like I was on the Iwo Jima. I came home, I was like, yo, fucking aye aye, Captain. I was so excited. They make that shit fire. See the giant American flag? I'm like, god, this is awesome. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. That's what the whole world got to witness during the World Cup. Mm-hmm. And this guy came over from Cape Verde, got twenty-eight million followers. He started the tournament with fifty thousand. Salvozinha. And I think he got a deal, right? Oh, yeah. Did he get a contract somewhere? I think they're looking at it. But I mean, he's also forty, so I don't know exactly what he can do.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  Sign him to the Knicks, ten day.

• 1:16:51Mark Gagnon?

  Not to be, not to be a hater, but if you're a player, they probably just running it up, right? They're probably just buying some. That's a large jump.

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  Nah, he was a trending story. He was a trending story, bro. Yeah, he was, he was all over. He was a huge trending story. Ten million likes on this, four hundred forty thousand comments. He was a trending story, Al. It was big. Also, you asked me if I could change the rule. Maybe people do like. Yes, if you could change the rule in soccer. When they do the pre-game photo, we gotta stop with the stance. This is, this is what happens when you let Europeans decide the rules.

• 1:17:26Mark Gagnon?

  You talk about when they announce to the players, they all like.

• 1:17:28Speaker 02

  No, no, that part is swaggy. When they're just getting their fucking colons pushed in by the back line. Like, they always bend down, like awkwardly, right in front of the back up, the back. Taking knee or something, right? Yeah, like crouch. I think a crouch could work. But that's not a rule. What's a rule you would change in soccer? There's gotta be a way to penalize, uh. Flopping? Like flopping. It's just the worst part of the game. And like, I get why they do it. Like, there's a benefit. You flop, you get a penalty, you score. Like, it changes the entire trajectory of the tournament. But there's just gotta be a way to enforce it better. Like, if you get caught diving, immediate yellow card.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that'd be sick.

• 1:18:05Mark Gagnon?

  I thought they were trying to do that this tournament.

• 1:18:08Speaker 02

  They were.

• 1:18:09Mark Gagnon?

  I think they gave somebody.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  They've done, they've done a little bit. And let the record show also, a lot of times when these guys grab their shins, that shit hurts.

• 1:18:17Mark Gagnon?

  Stop it.

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  No, I know, no, no.

• 1:18:18Speaker 02

  This is the example. Let's say you're walking through your, your bedroom. It's dark, no lights because the AC and everything's turned off to conserve energy.

• 1:18:26Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  You smack your shin directly into a table.

• 1:18:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, I go, ow! I don't roll around on the floor like this for hours. Who's rolling around on the floor?

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  You put it on there and you go, damn. And then your girl goes, you okay? And you go, shut the fuck up.

• 1:18:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:40Speaker 02

  And then you, and then you take a minute and then you're good.

• 1:18:42Mark Gagnon?

  But you're not rolling around on the floor like a little bitch. And then once they give you the call you want, then you start smiling and jump right up. All of a sudden, I'm good now.

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  They got no AC, bro.

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  They have no AC.

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  They got no AC.

• 1:18:53Mark Gagnon?

  How's where in a wrist brace?

• 1:18:56Mark Gagnon?

  And spike ball.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro.

• 1:18:58Mark Gagnon?

  Hey.

• 1:18:59Speaker 01

  I gave you lost, I gave you lost in spike ball.

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  You are an athlete.

• 1:19:03Mark Gagnon?

  I'm a athlete.

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  Starting forward for, you nater.

• 1:19:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's yours?

• 1:19:11Mark Gagnon?

  I'm a good number nine, brother. What is six that?

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Does that, what is the idea of it just limiting your, your upward motion of the wrist?

• 1:19:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, and it gets me to stop doing stuff with it. Cause I keep forgetting that it's injured and then I keep doing.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  You never got tennis elbow at all?

• 1:19:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, when I first started playing.

• 1:19:28Speaker 01

  Did it affect you more on this side or this side?

• 1:19:31Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, the outside.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 1:19:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  My shit fucked me up in here.

• 1:19:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really?

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  And I was like, how is that tennis elbow? And they're like, it's the same.

• 1:19:38Mark Gagnon?

  You're probably just trying to muscle it through.

• 1:19:40Speaker 01

  One hundred percent. Zero body weight, zero talent or skill or nothing at all. It's embarrassing.

• 1:19:48Mark Gagnon?

  You been playing paddle? I haven't seen you. You still getting out there?

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  No, I did. I played this past weekend, but I didn't play, um. I didn't play when we were out in LA doing the movie. You're just there the whole day.

• 1:20:00Mark Gagnon?

  Were you getting up on stage?

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  I got stage on the weekends.

• 1:20:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  It must have been so nice.

• 1:20:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was sick. It was really.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  Being locked in a movie set for eight hours a day, twelve hours a day, and then being able to go and like be with people?

• 1:20:11Speaker 01

  That is the the balance that I that I didn't do when I was in Australia, that there's part of me that wish I did. But there's also like, you gotta spend time with the family, and I figured I'm bringing my family out to LA. And you're basically at the movie from seven in the morning until like seven at night and then an hour ride home. So I'm like, okay, so I don't see them at all. So come the weekend, I'm like, I'm not about to be like, hey, guys, I'm gonna go play paddle for three hours.

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  Gotcha.

• 1:20:35Speaker 01

  You know, we're gonna go to the farmer's market or whatever the fuck.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  What is a farmer's market really, besides the same thing over and over again in every booth?

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is like, kind of white people feel like they're in a village.

• 1:20:48Speaker 01

  Is that the idea? Is it like a cosplay of like?

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  It's like medieval times for moms.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that's kind of what it is. It's like, oh, we're like so, you know.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  I'm foraging.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  We're so quaint, you know, we're like, we're here, we're, we have a basket.

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, these blueberries came all the way from a grocery store and they brought them here. Like, how do they do that?

• 1:21:06Speaker 01

  They don't even take off the Driscoll.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:21:09Speaker 01

  It says Driscoll on it. We could get these at Whole Foods.

• 1:21:12Speaker 02

  Product of Guatemala. I'm like, that's not farm, that's, that's over there.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  I'm like, what, what are we doing?

• 1:21:17Mark Gagnon?

  Really? They really doing that at the farmer's market? I saw this people growing their shit.

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  They be saying it, but like.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  You think the guys at Canastra are selling Gucci? Bro, this is, this whole thing is.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  Don't fall for it, bro.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Speaker 01

  It's a fugas.

• 1:21:29Speaker 02

  Don't go to the farmer's market.

• 1:21:30Mark Gagnon?

  I never went.

• 1:21:30Speaker 02

  It's good for the vibe. You kind of get to go, you get a free sample, you smell lavender soap.

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  It's also guilt free snacks. Like when you buy a cookie or something at the farmer's market, it doesn't feel.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  Cause they put in like a brown paper, you know what I mean? When it's in brown paper, you're like, dude, this is from the earth. And this shit came off a tree.

• 1:21:48Speaker 01

  In plastic, that shit feels like very.

• 1:21:51Speaker 02

  Disgusting, ew.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:53Speaker 02

  Dude, but a nice preservatives.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  Cookie in a brown paper? Or a fresh peach? They say it's a fresh peach.

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  The ants on that shit still, you go, oh, this came from the earth.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  Came right from the earth. You also trick yourself into thinking it tastes different than any other fucking peach you had in your entire life.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  Why we hate him, bro? We gotta be positive.

• 1:22:17Mark Gagnon?

  You seem like the type that puts some shit on your roof and.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  That shit takes a long time. I got some trees. I got a, I got a hydrangea.

• 1:22:25Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, I got a tree.

• 1:22:27Speaker 02

  It tipped over.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  Oh, from that wind?

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:30Speaker 01

  You got a hydrangea?

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:32Speaker 01

  Aren't they beautiful?

• 1:22:32Speaker 02

  I used to have a hydrangea.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  And game over.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  Now I have like a stick. Got like a, there's a pot with a stick in it. Cause it used to be a hydrangea that tipped over and then it all died.

• 1:22:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:42Speaker 02

  Kind of a bummer.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  You need, yeah, maybe you need like a more firm place for it, something. I don't know. But this is a lot of upkeep.

• 1:22:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  Trying to tend to a garden.

• 1:22:51Mark Gagnon?

  It's, oh, yeah.

• 1:22:54Mark Gagnon?

  She was your wife.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  I got a kid. I know the wife, but she's got a kid. She has her own things she gotta grow. You know what I mean? She's grown this child.

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  Yo, they got it easy, yo.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Son, don't tell.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  Jokes, jokes. Nah, they gotta have a hard chill out. It's the hardest job in the world. That shit is hard.

• 1:23:10Mark Gagnon?

  But I'm just saying, back in the day, they used to do a little bit more.

• 1:23:15Speaker 01

  You get why, you get why like the feminist movement happened. All guys really had to say was, yo, it's hard what y'all are doing while we're at work. That's all we had to say. And we didn't say that. And then they were like, well, we're gonna work now. And then they started going to work and they were like, yo, this shit kinda easier than raising the kids. Cause it is. All we had to be like is, yo, you guys got the hard job and we couldn't do that. Even now, that shit is hard.

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  But it's, that shit is, I'm not saying this at all to pander. I mean it genuinely. That shit, cause there's not a moment where you can't pay attention.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've never had to like do stand up and shit at the same time.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Like I can leave that part of the job and then go take a shit.

• 1:23:56Speaker 01

  And they're just trying to kill themselves constantly.

• 1:23:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  Mark's parenting style is interesting.

• 1:24:03Speaker 01

  The kids, we're, we're out of the Hamptons, right? So the kids are like hanging out together. So he came out with his wife and the kids. So his kid is like, how, how much? Six months? Younger than, than Shiloh? And like, I'm always feeling bad. I don't want Shiloh to like fuck anybody up.

• 1:24:20Speaker 01

  So like Shiloh will go grab his kid.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  And then like I'll be like, child chill chill chill chill chill. We gotta be gentle. We gotta be gentle.

• 1:24:27Mark Gagnon?

  He's rough with this motherfucker.

• 1:24:29Speaker 02

  Mark goes, Mark goes, you know what? I kind of just let them figure it out. And if they figure it out, you know, it'll be like, I was like, where? Yeah. Shil just slammed his head on the corner of a table. Dunk that shit.

• 1:24:40Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta learn.

• 1:24:42Speaker 02

  Mark is like, he'll just come to me and he's like, walks over to Mark, chill, back to party.

• 1:24:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:48Speaker 02

  So maybe that is a good strategy. Maybe you let them work it out. The next time, I don't know if you noticed, your daughter tried to grab him and he, he kind of ducks. He kind of, he bobbed a little bit. Oh, you learn. He learned. He kind of like, he's moving. He's been doing a jump rope. He's been, he's been dialed in. But like, they get fucked up and then they kind of, they get a little bit less. That is, I'll be honest, the coolest thing in life.

• 1:25:06Mark Gagnon?

  But it's probably easy to do it with a boy.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:08Mark Gagnon?

  You think that changes anything?

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  Maybe. I can't say. 100%. Sorry, I only got one of them. 100%. I'm way less delicate with my boy. But is that because he's a boy? Because of the second child? He's a boy. Second child, there's other things. 100%. Second child, there's way different number two. But like, definitely with boy, you're like, ah, he could get some scars.

• 1:25:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  That's character on a dude, a scar. That's a good point. You know? Yeah. You got a story to tell.

• 1:25:35Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta toughen them up a little bit.

• 1:25:37Speaker 02

  A girl got a scar, she gotta fucking get a real job.

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  Join the circus or something. I didn't know. I didn't know what you got to do. I didn't even know. Cause you don't see them that much. They gotta do something. I don't know where they go. Yeah, that is a good point. I was thinking about it. There's a double standard. Cause like, as men get older, we become weathered. And it's almost like a compliment. Like, oh, he's a weathered man. Yes. You know what I mean? But if you described a woman as a weathered,

• 1:26:04Speaker 02

  Fuck you and all this weather for, girl. Get an umbrella immediately. Why are you weathered? But it is the most fire shit to like, I mean, you're, you're obviously much younger than me, but like to hang out with your friends and have your kids be hanging out with each other. That is a really cool thing to watch. That's awesome. Like you think you've made it. Like I like, I was just like sitting there at the party. I'm like watching friends that I went to college with. And their children hanging around with mine and like their kids are like kind of like babysitting mine and playing with that and it was just like

• 1:26:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, thank you for having us over. That was

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  Of course, man.

• 1:26:44Mark Gagnon?

  It was a great time, man.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  That's the best. I'm glad I wasn't sick this time. The last, the last fourth, I was just like I almost passed away. Yeah. He was ill. Trying to get jacked and I got some fucking protein powder from my boy and that shit was poisoning me for like three weeks out of the summer. I got off the protein powder. I stopped having diarrhea. He got a research chemical. He got the Chinese like peptide.

• 1:27:07Mark Gagnon?

  You just always just gonna be that.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  Forever.

• 1:27:11Mark Gagnon?

  It's alright. It's not too bad.

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  He's FDA. He's always, he's FDA.

• 1:27:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's not too bad.

• 1:27:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like a Monsanto. Right? You're not gonna get all the nutrients, but it's gonna get you by. Right? I can accept that.

• 1:27:24Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  Bro, have you ever seen this video of when women first went to Australian bars?

• 1:27:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:29Speaker 02

  You've seen this?

• 1:27:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't. They were acting like speed was at the Argentina game. Yeah, I got the same algorithm. How you see it the same shit?

• 1:27:40Speaker 04

  Do you object to people like me walking in and having a drink here amongst you?

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  Well, it's not the objection, but I think myself that the place for women is the saloon bar or the lounge.

• 1:27:51Speaker 04

  Why? What's wrong with us? We're not doing you any harm in here.

• 1:27:54Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, if I wanna talk or swear or something like that and there's a woman standing behind me, you can't, can you?

• 1:27:59Speaker 04

  You think women are gonna be shocked by your language? That's why you don't want them in here, is it?

• 1:28:03Speaker 05

  Well, you, well, let me put it this way. We put a restraint on ourselves.

• 1:28:09Speaker 04

  You're afraid of women?

• 1:28:11Speaker 05

  Let us.

• 1:28:15Speaker 02

  This guy going to a bar being hammered, having an argument with somebody is so funny. Um, he's like, no one's gonna ever see this. Isn't this kind of like, good?

• 1:28:26Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  They're basically going like, hey, we want to be respectful when we're around you. And we don't feel like we can be respectful if you're, no, sorry. And we don't feel like we can just let loose when we're here. You know, we're not coming here just to drink. We're coming here to let loose and we can't do that if you're here. I think that's, I don't know, like, I think this is supposed to be like some expose about like how sexist men are. And they just found out they really respect women. Isn't that what all them are saying? I just want to say curse words and I feel bad saying it in front of you. It's like having kids around, you're like, eh.

• 1:28:55Mark Gagnon?

  But it's probably during like feminist movement where they're like, hey, we want to be treated equal. So, yeah, treat us the same way. So curse in front of us is not gonna make us feel away. That's, seems like she got the haircut that matches that, babe.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think she could hang. Yeah, would that, would that fit?

• 1:29:11Speaker 01

  McSorley's didn't let, McSorley's didn't let women in until the seventies.

• 1:29:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, that's right. It's kind of crazy, the seventies is so late.

• 1:29:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:29:20Mark Gagnon?

  I start to realize why guys go to the bar, huh? It's got nothing to do with alcohol.

• 1:29:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. You just want to let loose. Trying to F's and Bs and Cs with your boys, you know?

• 1:29:31Mark Gagnon?

  Now we just have the barber shop, that's it. That's the last place.

• 1:29:34Speaker 02

  For now, till that haircut walks in there. Studs up in there though.

• 1:29:38Mark Gagnon?

  They men though.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  You, you, that, like, you not changing nothing around a stud.

• 1:29:42Mark Gagnon?

  Nothing.

• 1:29:43Speaker 02

  They probably appreciate that.

• 1:29:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  That's extremely respectful.

• 1:29:47Mark Gagnon?

  They don't like when you treat them like a woman.

• 1:29:49Speaker 02

  Yo, but then what's the difference between stud and trans? Why haven't the studs going like, yo, no, I'm trans? They, it's like, they're studs. Yeah. It's like its own gender. It's its own gender, yeah. Isn't that interesting?

• 1:30:01Mark Gagnon?

  It's a good one.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  They're just like, I'm a woman, I have a vagina.

• 1:30:05Mark Gagnon?

  But I'm a stud.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  I'm a stud.

• 1:30:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:07Speaker 02

  But I'm like the more masculine version of that. Yeah. That's fire, I think. Kind of nice. Studs are kind of like. Running up the internet right now. I'm seeing a lot of stud content. Have you not seen this? I think Druinsky was leaning in a little bit.

• 1:30:32Speaker 02

  What if, what if we just have a jersey that you put on when you're about to say something and you're like, that's what someone from this country. And now we don't blame it on Alex, we just blame it on the team you're supporting.

• 1:30:42Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's good.

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• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  You know what's lovely about the World Cup is that you get to be proud of your country without having to deal with any of the government shit. Do you know what I mean? Like, nobody ever is like seeing these teams come out and wave their flag. They're like, well, but I can't believe, but you can be proud of your country that's doing all this shit. They're like, no, no, no. I'm just proud of this football team. It's like, no, you're not.

• 1:33:46Speaker 01

  You're proud of your country, but the football team gives you this thing that you can celebrate your country for.

• 1:33:51Mark Gagnon?

  That's because Israel wasn't playing.

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  Are you sure? I thought Argentina made it into the round eight.

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  People find any type of way. Like I saw, I saw a lacrosse game. I saw like a, like a D-league lacrosse game. It was like America versus Israel and it was like 10-0 and all the comments were just like, yeah.

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  What they're thinking too.

• 1:34:14Speaker 01

  I was like, do you think they played lacrosse?

• 1:34:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I was doing that in group chat. Fucking Argentina wins and somehow it's fucking Israel's fault. I'm like, how the fuck is that?

• 1:34:21Speaker 02

  Don't say y'all, just say David Sanchez.

• 1:34:25Speaker 01

  I ain't calling nobody. He was mad. He was mad.

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  FA as well.

• 1:34:29Mark Gagnon?

  Immediately after Argentina won, FA showed a picture of Messi kissing the wall.

• 1:34:35Mark Gagnon?

  I'm like, how these two things relate?

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  No, there's a greater power of play. Who are you guys rooting for now? Like, who do you think's gonna win the whole thing?

• 1:34:42Mark Gagnon?

  Spain. Spain got it.

• 1:34:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:45Mark Gagnon?

  Light work.

• 1:34:45Speaker 01

  France is not even close.

• 1:34:46Mark Gagnon?

  Lamine Lamah. He's, he's pretty good. Yeah. He's nice.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  I mean, who are you gonna support now? Mexico's out. I know that was your team. USA's out. Bummer. Scotland's out. All my teams are out. Um, hmm. So if Messi wins another one, he's certified the greatest soccer player that's ever existed. Two World Cups? Yeah, back to back is pretty crazy. You can't take it away. Like, what is the argument even? FIFA corruption? Outside of FIFA corruption, which they will eventually forget about. Because Maradona smacked the ball with his hand and they still looked at him as the greatest years later. Yeah.

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, so there's part of me that like, I like, I like greatness. You saw Tom Brady even give it up? Yeah, he's like, this might be better than 28-3. Yeah.

• 1:35:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that's the thing. The corruption bullshit. How do you explain the three goals, though?

• 1:35:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's the thing. Soccer, it's not like, soccer ain't like basketball, bro. It's hard to score a goal. Yeah. That, that's, that's my thing. I'm like, bro, you're up 2-0. Like, they got a goal taken away.

• 1:35:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:49Speaker 01

  So it should have been three, well, should have, at that point, it would have been 2-0. Then they ended up scoring. Yeah, exactly. But like, had they went up 2-0, maybe they wouldn't have pushed as hard for that third, like. That's true. That's true. And then like, Argentina was playing kinda dirty, they smacked an Egyptian player in the face. I like to see, I wanna see Egypt win, to be honest.

• 1:36:08Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, I was going for Egypt.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  That would've been cool, bro. I was going for Egypt, right? Like, it's so fire. France, Morocco, who do you got? Oh, that's who I'm rooting for, Morocco. France and Morocco tomorrow? I'm rooting for Morocco. I'm going for France. France, 77% chance on calc. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, from what these guys say. Spain, Belgium? Spain. Spain. 73. Norway, England.

• 1:36:28Mark Gagnon?

  I gotta go England.

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  I bet you England has an edge, probably like. Fifty five percent.

• 1:36:32Mark Gagnon?

  Sixty four, thirty six.

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  I'll be honest with you, everybody hates England and.

• 1:36:37Mark Gagnon?

  Who hates England?

• 1:36:38Speaker 01

  Like everybody, they're like Argentina of the tournament.

• 1:36:40Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:36:41Speaker 01

  Nobody roots for England, but I also get there's like an imperialist mindset behind this as well.

• 1:36:47Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  So like, England kind of feels in a lot of ways like the fucking Yankees. You know, like everybody just hates, but I don't think they have like the winning history of the Yankees, but there still is this animosity to like, when England win, it bothers people.

• 1:36:59Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:37:00Speaker 01

  And if I wasn't Scottish, I'll be rooting for them just because I know the noise they shit out of people like. And I like their chants, they have the best chants. Their fans are the best. And the players are nice, Jude Bellingham's just a gentleman. And like, just worked his ass off in that game, he was very easy to root for. Yeah. So I kind of like England, even though it breaks my Scottish family's heart, I fuck with them. Yeah. So Morocco and England, I'm probably rooting for. Yeah. All right, what do we got? What are the odds? Yeah, any other games?

• 1:37:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:27Speaker 01

  Argentina, Switzerland.

• 1:37:28Mark Gagnon?

  Switzerland, what do you got?

• 1:37:29Speaker 01

  Come on. I want Switzerland, but Argentina's gonna win. Seventy two percent on Argentina.

• 1:37:33Mark Gagnon?

  I don't want either team.

• 1:37:36Speaker 01

  It'd be nice to see Switzerland kind of get at it, right? I don't know.

• 1:37:40Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, pick a side, bro.

• 1:37:41Speaker 01

  Crazy underdog.

• 1:37:42Mark Gagnon?

  All that neutral shit, pick a side.

• 1:37:44Speaker 01

  Switzerland.

• 1:37:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, no, I'm talking about.

• 1:37:46Speaker 01

  No, he's saying historically.

• 1:37:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:47Speaker 01

  Historically, yeah. Switzerland. Yeah, they're great, they're neutral. What's Argentina doing, bro? They're not neutral, not neutral at all.

• 1:37:58Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I don't like them.

• 1:37:59Speaker 01

  He doesn't like either one.

• 1:38:00Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:38:01Speaker 01

  Imagine. What do you want to? Dude, but imagine being Switzerland in the country.

• 1:38:07Mark Gagnon?

  Alright, yeah.

• 1:38:08Speaker 01

  Can you imagine it? It's not sick as hell. Like, it's a beautiful country, but like, you're just surrounded by people that are just annoying.

• 1:38:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  Like, America, we have like, the greatest people below us.

• 1:38:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:19Speaker 01

  And the nicest people above us.

• 1:38:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:21Speaker 01

  It's like, clearly, God favors us. Yeah, that's true, that is true. There's no question whether God favors America or not, because they gave us the best neighbors in the history of the world. Canada, US, Mexico, come.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  That's us. That's, that's what God gave us, bro. We're the seed of. We are the seed of existence. Of existence, bro.

• 1:38:42Speaker 01

  No, for real. Think about that. Is there a place on the planet like not everybody, we take it for granted. If we go up north, they're the nicest, kindest, most accepting people. And if we go down south, they're the most fun, jovial, awesome people. They all believe in the right God.

• 1:38:57Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:39:00Speaker 02

  Christ is king.

• 1:39:00Speaker 01

  Christ is king, right? So it's just, okay. Or you could be Switzerland. To your left are the rudest people on the planet. To your right are the most autistic people on the fucking planet. South, you got Italy, kind of, but you got the German Italy.

• 1:39:16Speaker 01

  It sucks. And they give them waterfalls, they're fucking hiking trails.

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  You get why they're neutral.

• 1:39:20Speaker 01

  You get why they're neutral. Like, I don't want to be friends with none of y'all. What am I supposed to do here? Run up in a mountain? Rikola? Is that Switzerland, Austria? Whatever, same shit. That sucks. Imagine being some like, I know we always go like, oh, Europe, you're so close to all these different places. So you can get the fuck out of there.

• 1:39:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, that sucks.

• 1:39:38Speaker 01

  Like, think of it, they're, you are stuffed. Think about that.

• 1:39:42Speaker 02

  I get why Switzerland's just like, yeah. I don't want to play with none of y'all. We're us.

• 1:39:46Speaker 01

  You see them with Germany's about, you're like, nah.

• 1:39:48Speaker 02

  Can't do that.

• 1:39:49Speaker 01

  And also their languages are just infiltrating your country. You got no chance. They haven't figured out what language they want. They're so neutral, they haven't figured out what fucking language they want to speak.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  Speak all of them. We speak every language.

• 1:40:00Speaker 01

  English. You should speak English. That's what you should fucking speak.

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  What if Trump got that one? What if Trump was like, hey, we also got Switzerland?

• 1:40:08Speaker 01

  I'll be honest with you. I don't want it.

• 1:40:11Speaker 02

  No, wait, why?

• 1:40:12Speaker 01

  I don't want it.

• 1:40:12Speaker 02

  Why?

• 1:40:13Speaker 01

  I had enough of them.

• 1:40:15Speaker 02

  I mean, Zermatt seems beautiful, you know, it seems like a nice place.

• 1:40:18Speaker 01

  I don't want it.

• 1:40:20Speaker 01

  I don't want it, Mark. I don't want it one bit.

• 1:40:23Speaker 02

  Well, if you're Switzerland, what do you do?

• 1:40:25Speaker 01

  Nah, cause then it's, then it's another place that's, we have to protect, that's surrounded by people that hate them.

• 1:40:30Speaker 02

  We don't, they have the Swiss, they have the.

• 1:40:36Speaker 02

  Good one. Decent one.

• 1:40:40Speaker 01

  It's another place speaks multiple languages.

• 1:40:45Speaker 01

  They can defend themselves, bro. They got the Swiss guard. They got these boys defending their nation.

• 1:40:50Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's kinda fly. Hold up, Knicks colors too. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 1:40:55Speaker 01

  Why didn't we show up like this to San Antonio? We didn't even talk about the Knicks. No, they snapped with that. Those are the shout out to Mexico. This is the last World Cup thing I'll bring up. This guy, all time great Mexican, guy's going by with the beers, takes his flag.

• 1:41:13Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, legend. Okay, this is why they're the best, meet the greatest people on planet Earth.

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  That's fire. We should be thanking our lucky stars that they're right down next to us. We could've been next to Switzerland. Shout out, but shout out Canada too. I fucks with them. Good group of guys up there. They're a good group of guys. I'm never upset when I go to Canada. I'm always happy. I go, I like the attitude everybody got here. This is nice. You know, France, amazing stuff and beautiful and the service is great, the food is, but it's. Feel attention. Yeah, they don't want you, you don't want them. It's the whole. Ireland during the day, feel something. Yeah, it's a little dark. A little dark. Ireland at night.

• 1:41:59Speaker 01

  You see why this tiny little place created all this art. The best music ever. Oh my God. God bless them. It's, you almost wanna be a vampire. Like if you were a vampire. Yeah, you'd be in Ireland. Ireland. Cause no one would ask where you were. And no one would care if you, if you took the women. Like there'd be no, there'd be no concern whatsoever.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  All right, you wanna do some feelings, no facts? Yep. Should we talk about the Knicks? We got it. I know it's a little late. First of all, can I do, and I just wanna say that I, I am invested. Okay, so I have to. This is the greatest flavor that has ever been existed in pouches. This is, and this is not an ad. This is me just telling you that this is the greatest. I went to a smaller dose, just do more.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

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• 1:43:22Speaker 01

  That's a fantastic idea. Cause that's what I want after I eat. After I have a delicious meal, I just want a little pouch. Like in Europe, they'll be like.

• 1:43:30Mark Gagnon?

  Little kids actually a really good idea. The way that all these fucking stuff is popping, just have a menu for those.

• 1:43:35Speaker 01

  I saw it at a bar. I saw it at a bar recently, they just had them behind the counter. I was like, that is a great idea. Cause that's what they used to have with the ciggy wiggies.

• 1:43:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:43Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:43:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:44Speaker 01

  Back in the day, I'm older than you, there used to be a vending machine for the ciggy wiggies. Wow. They had those cool knobs. They were awesome. That was the coolest vending machine. Yeah. I mean, a ciggy wiggy after a meal, while you're sitting in a nice cafe in France. Yeah. Outside. They nailed that. Blowing it in the face of a six year old that only knows smoke. That's what happened to us. Yeah. That's what happens when you live in Europe. You just blow smoke at a six year old's face. Yeah. And everyone likes it. And they like it. Yeah, I grew up in Europe. That's awesome. You're actually not white trash, you're European. I don't know if you knew that. I didn't know that. It's funny, my, someone in my family smokes and they asked, they were like, do your friends smoke? And I was like, no, they don't smoke. And I talked to her for two more seconds, like all my friends. One of my friends rips darts every time they have one beer.

• 1:44:28Speaker 01

  They just, I think they just drink for an excuse to smoke. I don't even think they wanna drink. I think they're just like, I wanna smoke, but I need to justify it to myself and I'm sober enough to not do it. I think about ciggy wiggies more than I think about molly or ecstasy. Cause I haven't done any of that shit since I had kids.

• 1:44:42Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:44:42Speaker 01

  And that is.

• 1:44:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I haven't had a cigarette in a long time.

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  Overdue. Drunk, at the bar, outside, taking a break. Rip a little bogey. Ears kinda ringing. Yeah, I mean.

• 1:44:54Mark Gagnon?

  I actually can't right now. I'm trying to cleanse my body.

• 1:44:57Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:44:57Mark Gagnon?

  I'm doing ayahuasca this week.

• 1:44:58Speaker 01

  Oh, whoa. Are you doing?

• 1:45:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:02Speaker 01

  Where?

• 1:45:02Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, Jersey, actually, but not far, like Iowa.

• 1:45:06Speaker 01

  Sounds authentic. Yeah, the ayahuasca capital of that.

• 1:45:10Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, it's a lady. She comes from Colombia. She like does the ceremony like once a month and stuff like that.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  She's Italian.

• 1:45:15Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no.

• 1:45:16Speaker 01

  And where is the ceremony at?

• 1:45:18Mark Gagnon?

  Like they get an Airbnb and then they just several people like between like five to eight, five to eight people, whatever. And then they have like helpers and all this type of stuff. Cause I looked it up. It's really legit and yeah, I'm nervous.

• 1:45:31Speaker 01

  Nah, don't be nervous. Who'd you cross-reference this with?

• 1:45:34Mark Gagnon?

  Um, so I heard from my friend's wife and then I did some research on the lady and she's legit.

• 1:45:42Speaker 01

  And you spoke to other people that went with her?

• 1:45:45Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:45:46Speaker 01

  So like her LinkedIn looked good.

• 1:45:48Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck.

• 1:45:49Speaker 01

  Are you, are you gonna be in the jungle? Cause part of it is like becoming one with the earth. So you need to be around trees and.

• 1:45:54Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, not necessarily. Like a lot of people, they kinda after they drink it, then do the shitting and all that stuff. They just laying down.

• 1:46:00Speaker 01

  And they just go to Hoboken and just.

• 1:46:02Mark Gagnon?

  No, they're just like laying down.

• 1:46:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you don't want any distraction. You only like to in the city.

• 1:46:05Mark Gagnon?

  It is away. Yeah. It's like one of those houses in the woods that it's like away from everything. Yeah, you have like a campground and all that type of stuff, but.

• 1:46:13Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:46:14Mark Gagnon?

  But yeah, I'm gonna miss two days of the Jay-Z concert. I'm really sad about that.

• 1:46:18Speaker 01

  You're missing both days?

• 1:46:19Mark Gagnon?

  Well, he's doing three, so I'm gonna see the first day and then.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  You were planning to go to all three?

• 1:46:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:24Speaker 01

  You're gonna not drink and go to the Jay-Z concert?

• 1:46:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:28Speaker 01

  You're gonna not have any, anything at the Jay-Z concert? Sober, stone cold sober.

• 1:46:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I love Jay-Z. I can appreciate it.

• 1:46:35Speaker 01

  The way you first listened to Jay-Z.

• 1:46:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I was probably sober. I was a child.

• 1:46:39Speaker 01

  Of course you're, that's what I'm saying. This is you're doing it the way that you did it back in the day. Are you nervous?

• 1:46:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  No, don't be nervous.

• 1:46:47Mark Gagnon?

  Actually, very.

• 1:46:47Speaker 01

  Nah, you'll be fine. You'll come back for sure. Most, most people do.

• 1:46:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:52Speaker 01

  What? He's nervous, huh? It's gonna be great. Yeah, I don't think you'll have any lasting psychological effects. Nah, a hundred percent.

• 1:46:59Mark Gagnon?

  We'll see.

• 1:47:00Speaker 01

  What do you think you're gonna find in there, Al?

• 1:47:02Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know. I'm, I'm, that's what I'm curious. I wonder what comes up. I am scared though. I'm really nervous.

• 1:47:08Speaker 01

  Are you going with someone you know?

• 1:47:09Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:47:10Speaker 01

  Alone?

• 1:47:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  You shouldn't get out. You've seen her. You're not going with your girl?

• 1:47:16Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 1:47:17Speaker 01

  She doesn't wanna do it?

• 1:47:18Mark Gagnon?

  She's not ready for it.

• 1:47:20Speaker 01

  Says who?

• 1:47:21Mark Gagnon?

  Her.

• 1:47:21Speaker 01

  Okay. You can go solo.

• 1:47:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's actually probably better. Like, I don't know what the fuck is gonna come up. Maybe I wanna experience that alone.

• 1:47:30Speaker 01

  Your memories are yours, remember that.

• 1:47:32Mark Gagnon?

  Stop it!

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  Whatever you think of is yours to enjoy, okay? That's all I'm saying.

• 1:47:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:38Speaker 01

  Whatever comes up. They gonna rape you. That's what's gonna happen.

• 1:47:42Mark Gagnon?

  They gonna put these thoughts in my head.

• 1:47:43Speaker 01

  They gonna rape you.

• 1:47:44Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know if that affects it.

• 1:47:45Speaker 01

  You gonna take that fucking drug, it's gonna be the day where shit, you gonna be sitting there comatose, they gonna put dicks in you for hours. Say an hour.

• 1:47:52Mark Gagnon?

  Sitting with the grandmother, alright, that's what they call it. Just sitting with grandmother.

• 1:47:56Speaker 01

  She gonna be bouncing on her crazy style.

• 1:48:00Speaker 01

  You gonna wake up, throw up, and she gonna be bouncing on her crazy style.

• 1:48:04Mark Gagnon?

  The ceremony, alright?

• 1:48:05Speaker 01

  No, no, you had a crazy dream. Like, grandmother was bouncing on her crazy style. She was bouncing on her crazy style. Yeah, that's a side effect, a lot of people have that. Your side effect. Bouncing on it. Bouncing on it. Are you going in defensive at all? Are you gonna, like?

• 1:48:20Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 1:48:21Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 1:48:22Mark Gagnon?

  No expectations either, I just wanna go.

• 1:48:25Speaker 01

  To see what happens.

• 1:48:25Mark Gagnon?

  See what happens, yeah.

• 1:48:26Speaker 01

  I can't wait to hear it. How much is it?

• 1:48:28Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, it's not, like, two hundred.

• 1:48:30Speaker 01

  That's it?

• 1:48:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:31Speaker 01

  Per? No, you gotta, you gotta group on, here's a group on.

• 1:48:34Mark Gagnon?

  Per, per session, so some people do like two or three.

• 1:48:37Speaker 01

  Take a Jay-Z concert. You gotta go multiple. You going, you going, you going, bro.

• 1:48:43Mark Gagnon?

  It's?

• 1:48:43Speaker 01

  How much is a bag of blow? Seventy's made only two hundred dollars, this shit should be like a thousand or something like that.

• 1:48:49Mark Gagnon?

  It's just a little cup?

• 1:48:51Speaker 01

  It don't matter about how little a cup is, it's an hours-long experience.

• 1:48:54Mark Gagnon?

  That is true, but it's not for recreational drug, guys.

• 1:48:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, but she's doing it for minimum wage?

• 1:49:01Mark Gagnon?

  She's a real one. She's a real one.

• 1:49:04Speaker 01

  You not concerned about this, man?

• 1:49:05Mark Gagnon?

  I imagine if you just chopping out some shit from your backyard, it's probably, she's probably making decent money.

• 1:49:13Speaker 01

  Oh, she's taking it in, she's smuggling in from Colombia.

• 1:49:16Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know how she gets it here, I don't wanna get, um, oh, actually, let me not say her name.

• 1:49:22Mark Gagnon?

  But she has a cool name though, like a really cool thing.

• 1:49:26Speaker 01

  Can you say it and bleep it?

• 1:49:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, say it.

• 1:49:30Mark Gagnon?

  In Spanish. Yeah, they call it that. Please bleep that.

• 1:49:35Speaker 01

  I like that Al said it's like this in Spanish and the Spanish and English word are so close to each other. It's like chocolate.

• 1:49:43Mark Gagnon?

  I just knew I would have said it wrong if I tried it, so.

• 1:49:47Speaker 01

  Son, I don't know about this one. If you said it was expensive, I'd be like, alright. This is one of those things you want to pay top dollar for.

• 1:49:52Mark Gagnon?

  No, that's actually the.

• 1:49:54Speaker 01

  The going rate?

• 1:49:54Mark Gagnon?

  The going rate, yeah. So you do 200 for the ceremony, each ceremony, if you want to do more than one. So I'm going Saturday morning. If I want to sit for another ceremony, then it'll be another 200. And then you pay 100 for the air baby cost.

• 1:50:11Speaker 01

  Are you in a journal at all?

• 1:50:14Mark Gagnon?

  That wasn't planted on it.

• 1:50:16Speaker 01

  I just heard some people do that. Journal before, you kind of work out some thoughts in your mind.

• 1:50:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I might. But I could do it on my phone.

• 1:50:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:22Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, actually, I think they do no phones. I don't know.

• 1:50:25Speaker 01

  So you're going there with no phone? Are you gonna sleep there?

• 1:50:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:29Speaker 01

  Bro, you're paying no money for this. I'm looking up.

• 1:50:32Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 1:50:32Speaker 01

  Tell me the going rate. In Costa Rica, it's 600 to 2,000 dollars. And that's in a third world country where people are knocking coconuts off a fucking tree. They need money more, they need the money.

• 1:50:44Mark Gagnon?

  But that's where you rich fucks, you go down and it's like, oh, I'm finding myself. And shit like, they know they can get you.

• 1:50:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. If you want private villas, medical supervision, spa facilities, it's 4 to 8 grand in Costa Rica. Yo, what about Jersey? What about the fucking Jersey prices?

• 1:50:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I want to go out Jersey.

• 1:50:59Speaker 01

  Give me the Tony Soprano special. What's the Jersey price? Call Neil Brennan right now.

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Weekend ceremonies, two to three days, is 500 to 1,200 dollars in America. And you got the group on, it's fine.

• 1:51:12Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, if I did all three sessions, then it would be 600 plus two nights.

• 1:51:18Speaker 01

  Oh, so you're overpaying?

• 1:51:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:19Speaker 01

  That's, I would try to negotiate that.

• 1:51:22Mark Gagnon?

  800 if I were to do all the sessions, but I'm not doing it.

• 1:51:25Speaker 01

  This guy's overpaying for Alaska.

• 1:51:28Speaker 01

  Yo.

• 1:51:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:29Speaker 01

  Yo Neil.

• 1:51:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yo.

• 1:51:31Speaker 01

  Yo Neil, you're on the. Pod real quick, Alex is gonna do his first ayahuasca ceremony and he found a shaman in Hoboken, New Jersey.

• 1:51:39Mark Gagnon?

  No, she's from Columbia.

• 1:51:40Speaker 01

  Is he good? And he's spending $200 for the whole experience. Is he getting ripped off?

• 1:51:46Mark Gagnon?

  They're lying.

• 1:51:48Speaker 02

  I don't think 200 is enough.

• 1:51:52Speaker 02

  You can pay however much you want. You ever go to a Chinese place and the entrees are like six bucks?

• 1:52:00Speaker 02

  And you're like nah. Let's go someplace more expensive.

• 1:52:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's kind of what we're thinking.

• 1:52:08Speaker 02

  200 is not, um, that's not enough.

• 1:52:12Speaker 01

  That's per day.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  It should start. No, that's per session. He might as well be, he might as well do it on Canal Street.

• 1:52:21Speaker 01

  Um, okay, so you're saying Alex should look at a different shaman?

• 1:52:25Speaker 02

  Yes. Yes.

• 1:52:28Mark Gagnon?

  What does Neil know?

• 1:52:30Speaker 01

  Neil, Neil, you've only done it 10 times.

• 1:52:34Speaker 02

  20 times.

• 1:52:34Speaker 01

  20 times.

• 1:52:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, so his is, it don't take.

• 1:52:41Speaker 01

  Okay, well, we will report back Neil. Thank you for at least advising him.

• 1:52:45Speaker 02

  Let me know if he's still, still with us. I'm very good.

• 1:52:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:52:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, man. I'll report back.

• 1:52:54Speaker 02

  I'm excited for you.

• 1:52:55Mark Gagnon?

  If I'm still alive.

• 1:52:56Speaker 02

  You'll be fine. You'll be fine.

• 1:52:57Mark Gagnon?

  Stop doing it.

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  I'm telling, I'm, I'm fully agreeing. Graham Hancock gave some advice when he came on this very show. That when I took mushrooms, I still remember and it was very helpful for me.

• 1:53:06Speaker 01

  What'd he say?

• 1:53:07Speaker 02

  Whenever the thing comes up.

• 1:53:08Speaker 01

  Pay the lowest possible price in New Jersey.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  Exactly. Use an Amex experience point to.

• 1:53:16Speaker 02

  To try to get a discount. He said when the, when the most terrifying thing comes up, the words he said were when.

• 1:53:23Speaker 01

  Snake rears its head, jump into its mouth. Ooh. So whenever the thing that comes up that you're most afraid of, Go for it. Go straight at it. Don't try to run because that's how you have a bad trip. You go straight for it and you confront it. You'll be safe and it's just a psychological test. Cool. I'm gonna take that. You're fucked yourself. Alright, but listen, before we go, we have to discuss the mix. Because I can't believe we haven't done a pod since we. You have, yes. Sorry. No, did you guys do? You did, bro. But we haven't done Flagrant. We haven't done Flagrant since. We went to games three, four and five. We were at Tanya's wedding. Okay? Tanya's wedding was. Immaculate. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Amazing. Unbelievable time. Great time. It's one, it's one of those things where like.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  Culture around, like culture provides so much for this type of celebration. What the fuck is that? I don't know what that sound was, but you know, like it is essentially a cultural celebration.

• 1:54:24Speaker 01

  Do you guys hear that? Maybe you guys. You definitely hear that. Okay. Oh. It's out there. His mic picked it up. That was ours. Anyway, anyway, but it was just awesome to see that element of it. Like I think a lot of times with weddings in America specifically, like one, because our culture is young. So we don't have like a typical American wedding yet. You know what I mean? There's some stuff we do that's culturally unique. Like what? The garter belt thing is very specifically American. Oh, really? So strange. I hate it. Yeah, I'm like, I'm assuming it's American. I don't know. Whatever with it. But I imagine there's just some like relic of some ancient like Arabic thing where like you're not allowed to touch them until you get married or something like that. But just like the husband going under there in front of her family and pulling it off with his teeth. Crazy. Comes out, ah.

• 1:55:09Speaker 01

  Gives it to a guy and then he puts it on a bridesmaid's leg. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. My point is that there's, there aren't these like, like legacy, like thousands of years of like institutional marriage that is like tied to a culture. So it was cool to see that, like, you know, rituals have existed for thousands of these Moroccan things that exist for like thousands of years. You're like, what the fuck? This is so sick. So that was really cool. Also, it's just like fun. Weddings are just the best when you actually care about the people getting married. It's just the best experience. Like, everybody's there to celebrate somebody else's love. Yeah, it's awesome. Anyway, she has like a daytime event on Saturday. We go to the daytime event. We then fly to San Antonio to watch it.

• 1:55:53Speaker 01

  This guy's a mensch, by the way, because he did not have to go to the daytime event. Have to go to the daytime. He went for as much time as he could. Have to go to the daytime. Before he boarded a plane. I was like, why are you here? He's like, oh, my flight doesn't leave for another 30 minutes. Have to go to the daytime. And I'm sure if I told Tanya how much that we spent flying to San Antonio so that we could go to that daytime event, she would have just said, why don't you just give me that money and miss the daytime event? 100%, she would definitely say that, but that's not what it's about. We cannot miss anything. We went there and San Antonio was fucking, it was just like a surreal experience. I mean, like, I got emotional. I watched Jason cry. Like, there's video of Jason actually crying, like wiping tears from his eyes. Doesn't strike me as much of a cry. He's not a cry. I bet if I asked him if he cried at his wedding or the birth of both of his children, he would say no.

• 1:56:37Speaker 01

  But he cried watching the Knicks win the fucking championship. He's only loved his kid for like eight years. He's loved the Knicks his whole life. His whole life, you know what I mean? It was surreal. It was surreal. Like, there was moments where like, I think it's gonna happen. Yeah. And even in those moments, like, I wouldn't allow myself to get too excited. Seeing Archer celebrate, like, they won. And Archer just makes it crazy, right? Wait, is that it? Did we win? Like, he couldn't believe it for like 10 seconds. Bro, it was so...

• 1:57:04Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, that was awesome being there, though. I felt like we were gonna close it out. That's why it's like, I have to go.

• 1:57:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:10Mark Gagnon?

  I had to go.

• 1:57:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, then we bumped into Al because Al lied and said he wasn't going to it.

• 1:57:14Mark Gagnon?

  Didn't lie.

• 1:57:15Speaker 01

  Did Al get a flight back with you? Yeah. Oh, that annoys me. Because you guys weren't telling each other you were both going. I asked Al, I was like, yo, because Al didn't show up to the wedding on Friday because he's a piece of shit.

• 1:57:25Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I was working.

• 1:57:27Speaker 01

  And then, uh, he was working. And then, uh...

• 1:57:29Mark Gagnon?

  I was on set.

• 1:57:30Speaker 01

  He was on set.

• 1:57:30Mark Gagnon?

  Filming.

• 1:57:31Speaker 01

  In San Antonio, coincidentally. That's a whole podcast. And people that can record all these things. But he decides to do it himself and does it's fine, totally fine. Massive business WTF Media Studios, absolutely massive, huge. Anyway, um, and so he doesn't say that he's here and then I think during halftime, he, we're going to get a drink and then I see you.

• 1:57:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:50Speaker 01

  And I'm like, whoa, you're a fucking lying piece of shit.

• 1:57:53Mark Gagnon?

  Stop adding.

• 1:57:55Speaker 01

  Al thinks if he omits, he's not lying.

• 1:57:57Mark Gagnon?

  That is.

• 1:57:57Speaker 01

  But you do get yourself in trouble by not just saying it. Say in the beginning.

• 1:58:01Mark Gagnon?

  So here's the real story. I see you three days before the game. And we're filming, filming brilliant idiots. And then I'm like, yo, Schultz, we gotta go to the game. You're like, no, we're going to the wedding. You can't go to the game. And you made me feel really bad.

• 1:58:18Speaker 01

  I never.

• 1:58:18Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, I'm not saying what you told me to do.

• 1:58:22Speaker 01

  I never said we can't go to the game.

• 1:58:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, you did.

• 1:58:24Speaker 01

  No, no, no. I said, I said, you can't miss the wedding. I was already planning on flying from the wedding to the game. And the reason I asked you is because I was gonna offer you a flight.

• 1:58:35Mark Gagnon?

  Guys, you were in the room and I was saying, I was like, yo, Schultz is making me feel bad that I want to go to the game.

• 1:58:40Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:58:40Mark Gagnon?

  You remember that. So why wouldn't you say, hey, um, we can still go to the game and go to the wedding?

• 1:58:46Speaker 01

  Can I be honest? Cause I was being a little bit of an asshole. Cause I knew, I knew you're a liar.

• 1:58:50Mark Gagnon?

  See, you know.

• 1:58:52Speaker 01

  I'm being a little bit of an asshole and I knew you were a liar.

• 1:58:54Mark Gagnon?

  You didn't know I was omitting yet.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  I knew you were omitting.

• 1:58:57Mark Gagnon?

  Didn't know I was omitting. I knew there was some omission. No, that was bullshit. This is bullshit. This is a curb episode right now.

• 1:59:05Speaker 01

  I can sense when you're omitting. No, we can sense when you're omitting. I gave you one more chance. I texted you. I gave you one more chance. I was like, are you going to the game? Because I literally, when we're getting the fucking plane, I was like, I want to make sure that there's room for Al if it's gonna go. So I give you one more chance and you still said.

• 1:59:22Mark Gagnon?

  So you said, are you going to the game? And I was like, I'm going to make it to the wedding. I'm working. Which are two truths. I was working, I was working.

• 1:59:33Speaker 01

  How do you label people omit to you? How does it make you feel?

• 1:59:37Mark Gagnon?

  You made me feel bad. I was gonna tell you the truth after the fact.

• 1:59:39Speaker 01

  You're a gaslighter.

• 1:59:40Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't want you to make me.

• 1:59:41Speaker 01

  You're a total gaslighter. Why can't you, why can't you just be like, listen, I omitted. And I should have just been straight up with you.

• 1:59:46Mark Gagnon?

  I said that at the wedding, but if you would have made me feel bad at that moment before the game, I probably wouldn't have.

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  I would have also been phoning.

• 1:59:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I would have canceled my flight to fucking San Antonio, went to Montreal.

• 1:59:59Speaker 01

  And then with me to the wedding, to the game.

• 2:00:01Mark Gagnon?

  You didn't tell me.

• 2:00:03Speaker 01

  But, but once I told you, you'd be like, oh, we're definitely going to that game.

• 2:00:05Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's if you told me, but I didn't know this. I didn't know that. I thought you were just asking me to make me feel bad.

• 2:00:10Speaker 01

  Let me ask you a question.

• 2:00:11Mark Gagnon?

  You sometimes just want to be a dick.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  Do you really think, yes.

• 2:00:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, so that's the thing. I thought you were doing that.

• 2:00:16Speaker 01

  Think that there's a chance that I was gonna miss this game?

• 2:00:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 2:00:20Speaker 01

  You really believe that?

• 2:00:21Mark Gagnon?

  I swear to God.

• 2:00:21Speaker 01

  In your soul?

• 2:00:22Mark Gagnon?

  Swear to God. If I thought there was any moment you, any chance you'd be there, I would have told you.

• 2:00:26Speaker 01

  Not a chance, not a chance. Not a chance in my entire life. Whereas when I was bumping in, I'd just go, I knew you were here because I knew he was here the whole fucking time. I knew he was here. There's not a question in my mind whether he's gonna.

• 2:00:35Mark Gagnon?

  I was like, you came to the game without him? First comment, first comment. I swear to God, I didn't know he was going.

• 2:00:43Speaker 01

  So anyway, we're there. It was the most fucking amazing thing in the world.

• 2:00:46Mark Gagnon?

  That's, that's a New York miracle right there.

• 2:00:49Speaker 01

  I mean, I was, and it worked out, didn't it?

• 2:00:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, it was awesome.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  So they brought their dog to the game, which is fire. We go to the game. Jason meets us there. Another hilarious story. Jason goes to some like real estate guys who are like religious Jewish, right? And they leave Friday because they can't fly. On Saturday? Saturday, on Saturday, but their plane is delayed to weather. So they're calculating like how many stars they could see in the sky because technically sundown doesn't start. You could see three medium sized, and Jason's in the plane like, who the fuck are these guys? Jason's supposed to be Jewish, but he's like, I'm learning what this whole thing is. There's a lot of rules to this. I'm a Knicks fan and I'm Jewish. Yeah, I'm a Knicks fan. I don't know what the fuck this shit is all about. So he's texting us in real time, them debating if they can see three medium sized stars as the sun is going down.

• 2:01:36Speaker 01

  But if the plane is up, technically you're already up, so you can't turn off the electricity, whatever. So they're negotiating.

• 2:01:42Mark Gagnon?

  How do they get in the elevator when, I thought their rule is they just can't press anything with electricity?

• 2:01:48Speaker 01

  Saturday starts sundown Friday, so they would have to leave before the sun goes down Friday. The game was Saturday.

• 2:01:54Mark Gagnon?

  Into it while Sabbath's starting?

• 2:01:57Speaker 01

  I think it's work technically. I think like you have to. No, you can't do it. Use any kind of like electric. You can't like ignite a fire.

• 2:02:03Mark Gagnon?

  But if you're walking in a plane, you don't gotta touch shit and you're good. It's the same as getting in the elevator that's already moving, but they didn't press the button.

• 2:02:11Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a great. They got kidnapped by a plane, basically. They walked into a plane.

• 2:02:15Mark Gagnon?

  If you're walking, it's in a plane. You don't touch anything.

• 2:02:17Speaker 01

  And we're back in a curve episode. This is the exact conversation I'm sure that was happening on the plane. Anyway, they're going back and forth about this. Some guy left their bag. They're fucking looking at the stars, they're starting to show. It's a whole fucking thing. And Jason just texts me, like, what the hell is this shit? Anyway, uh, so we go Saturday. We fly on Saturday. We see him at halftime. His girl has a dog, right? Jason goes to me, he goes, uh, he goes, this girl bought a dog? I go, yeah. He goes, what was the contingency plan for that? I go, what do you mean? And immediately in Jason's head, he's like, like, if they don't let her in with the dog, like, she's standing in the park.

• 2:02:55Speaker 01

  Like, in his head, he's like, would he risk not going to the game because he couldn't get in with his girl?

• 2:03:01Mark Gagnon?

  That is an excellent question. Nah, I did a bunch of checking before, even called the plane.

• 2:03:06Speaker 01

  And made sure it's fine. Okay, so they, so we go, whatever. Knicks win. It's the most amazing thing in the world. We all get in the car and we go to get Whataburger. Okay?

• 2:03:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:03:17Mark Gagnon?

  Are you there for this?

• 2:03:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, so we're all in the car. We're going to get Whataburger. We're in fucking Texas. We gotta get Whataburger. By the way, in the game, the San Antonio fans were incredible. They were like, they're awesome. They really won their team when they were going. But they weren't dicks. Like, and there was a little part of them, like, after we won, that were like, they've won championships. Like, they're used to winning. Like, they're a fucking prolific franchise. Like, so there's a little part of them that was kind of like, hey, man, good job. You did it. It, it didn't feel like anger, animosity. It wasn't like Argentina versus Speed or anything like that. Like, it was kind of, it was cool. There was like a great vibe there.

• 2:03:48Mark Gagnon?

  Like, they actually seemed happy to see Knicks fans.

• 2:03:50Speaker 01

  There was a little bit.

• 2:03:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:52Speaker 01

  It was really beautiful. So we're like, oh, this is awesome. Let's just go get Whataburger.

• 2:03:55Mark Gagnon?

  And that's in the ticketed event.

• 2:03:56Speaker 01

  That's in the ticketed event, right? We go to downtown San Antonio, okay? We're driving. I open up my window of the car to like make a little video on some like Joker shit. Like, we made it. There's a guy on like a scooter, rolls past and just goes, yo, fuck the Knicks and fuck you. And I, and I'm feeling good.

• 2:04:15Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking idiot.

• 2:04:16Speaker 01

  I'm feeling good. We're in bumper to bumper traffic and Knicks. Girls are twerking on the street, the fans are so nice in San Antonio.

• 2:04:23Mark Gagnon?

  This guy on a scooter.

• 2:04:24Speaker 01

  They're sweet people. I go, oh yeah, what happened to you? Where y'all at right now? Uh, bitch, maybe I said something like that. I said bitch, all of a sudden I just, I hear, hear. Turn his scooter back around, comes back, goes on the sidewalk. He starts, oh yeah, what's up, what's up? You wanna do something about it? Let's fucking do something about it. But he stayed at the sidewalk, he didn't come in.

• 2:04:47Mark Gagnon?

  Who's the guy on the scooter?

• 2:04:48Speaker 01

  So I'm like, nah, he's pussy, he ain't gonna do shit. I'm like, fuck you, what's up? We wanna do something about it?

• 2:04:53Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking idiot.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  Dump, dump, we'll do something about it? He goes, I go, he goes, you're not gonna do something, you're not gonna do something, I know he's not gonna do something. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, drunk ass Mexican dude, he's on the street, he just kinda like bobbles in the frame, like, like he's like, like a, like a, a balloon animal or some shit, like he's just big, he goes, oh, there's a Knicks fan over here, fool. Hey, fuck the Knicks, fool.

• 2:05:21Speaker 01

  I rolled up that window.

• 2:05:25Speaker 01

  That dude on the scooter was not worried about, that Mexican dude was ready for action, bro. He was upset.

• 2:05:33Speaker 01

  He was like fishing in front of a bike. My man came and tried to open the door, said, I don't know how to work the car, I unlocked the shit by accident, I'm trying to lock it, I unlocked it.

• 2:05:43Speaker 01

  Son, we can't drive, we're stuck in traffic. Mexican dude ends up walking away, I'm like, alright, we're good.

• 2:05:49Mark Gagnon?

  I've never seen his wife so bad.

• 2:05:51Speaker 01

  So my wife was pissed, she's like, what are you fucking thinking? We're in San Antonio, I was like, they were nice in the arena.

• 2:05:58Mark Gagnon?

  It's fucking Texas.

• 2:05:59Speaker 01

  It's, it's Texas.

• 2:06:00Mark Gagnon?

  Open carry state, motherfucker.

• 2:06:02Speaker 01

  I am so pissed off. And these motherfuckers that couldn't pay for the tickets inside, so they ready to squabble, right? They're fucking.

• 2:06:11Speaker 01

  We get to the, to the Whataburger street, it's so much traffic, we have our boy, we say, yo, Marino, you gotta go put the order in for the Whataburger. We didn't say that, we're like, who wants to put the order in?

• 2:06:22Mark Gagnon?

  We said that, right?

• 2:06:24Speaker 01

  Marino goes, you know what, fuck it, I'll do it, right? We go, okay. Marino goes to Jason, Marino's wearing like a Knicks fucking jersey, basically. He goes to Jason, yo, Jason, you just got a white shirt on, just give me your shirt.

• 2:06:37Speaker 01

  Jason goes, this is the exact way it goes, okay? Marino goes, Jase, let me put on your shirt then. Jason goes.

• 2:06:49Speaker 01

  He goes, why don't you just turn yours inside out?

• 2:06:56Mark Gagnon?

  It still says Knicks inside out. It's an embroidered jersey.

• 2:06:59Speaker 01

  Son, wait for it.

• 2:07:02Speaker 01

  He goes, Marino goes, Jason, I lent you that shirt. You're wearing my shirt.

• 2:07:12Mark Gagnon?

  This is the funniest interaction I've ever seen, bro.

• 2:07:16Speaker 01

  Jason takes off his shirt. Marina puts this on. Jason's topless in the front seat. Marina goes to get the Whataburger. We turn around the corner. Second we turn around the corner. Uh, police, smoke bombs.

• 2:07:30Speaker 01

  People start swinging on the police. The police are also Spurs fans. Like, the police are throwing smoke bombs and shooting rubber bullets back like, yo, we're upset too. Why are you fighting us? It is a war scene outside Whataburger.

• 2:07:46Mark Gagnon?

  It should look like a war zone out there.

• 2:07:47Speaker 01

  War zone.

• 2:07:48Mark Gagnon?

  It was crazy. They were that pissed?

• 2:07:49Speaker 01

  Rubber bullets, smoke bombs everywhere.

• 2:07:52Mark Gagnon?

  How many people roughly?

• 2:07:54Speaker 01

  Few hundred.

• 2:07:55Mark Gagnon?

  A hundred?

• 2:07:55Speaker 01

  But no, hundreds of people, but running down the street, clearly fighting, running, shots fired everywhere. We pull up to a corner. Cop goes, yo, it's gonna get crazy here. You should go further. We go, yo, we got a friend in Whataburger. He's like, which one is it? We're like, the guy with the white shirt. And Jason just sighs because he's still topless. He's mad that that shirt's about to get worn out.

• 2:08:14Mark Gagnon?

  Just think about, this is a Saturday night, um, that last game, they just lost. In the arena there. Yeah, everybody. So it was all the let out from the game, plus the people who were just there partying. Because that was downtown by all the bars and everything. It was just a sea of madness. Madness. Bro, I walk back to my hotel, two guys, shirtless, they were like, yo, they made us take our jerseys off. They started punching them and shit. They had to run away. Then they, one dude got hit with a bottle full of pee. No. How do you even have a bottle full of pee?

• 2:08:46Speaker 01

  There was a guy at our, at our, at our hotel, when we got back, a guy walks in with no shirt on. We're like, yo, what happened? They took my shirt off. And they look at Jason, like, you too?

• 2:08:57Mark Gagnon?

  They wanted their get back. Because they saw what happened game four over here when we was beating up San Antonio fans.

• 2:09:03Speaker 02

  And who was against that? I mean, I said, we shouldn't be doing this because I know my boys are gonna go out to San Antonio, they're gonna get jumped.

• 2:09:10Speaker 01

  Probably right about that.

• 2:09:11Speaker 02

  And now, look at Jason, sitting there in the front seat, rolls, rolls falling down.

• 2:09:14Speaker 01

  We got that W though.

• 2:09:16Mark Gagnon?

  Jason's looking good though.

• 2:09:17Speaker 02

  Hey, by the W, you mean whatever?

• 2:09:18Speaker 01

  We got that whatever.

• 2:09:20Speaker 02

  Was it good? How good is whatever after someone risked their life for it?

• 2:09:24Speaker 01

  That shit was mid, bro. They knew we were Knicks fans. They gave us some dry ass trash. That shit was not good. I hit two of them to the face immediately. Felt amazing about it.

• 2:09:32Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but they wanted blood that night though. That shit was crazy.

• 2:09:36Speaker 01

  I still, there's part of me still don't even believe it happened.

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  I haven't seen any videos of people getting fucked up though. Are they, are they out there?

• 2:09:42Speaker 01

  His body cam footage, I'll tell you that, man. There's a lot of body cam.

• 2:09:45Mark Gagnon?

  They probably smart. They just not taking out the vote, but they were fucking people up.

• 2:09:50Speaker 01

  They guys make me, there's a Knicks fan in there? I said, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

• 2:09:56Mark Gagnon?

  I ain't never seen a bitch on so.

• 2:09:58Speaker 01

  Cause I knew he would, that guy was about it. Scooter kid? I was like, nah, he don't really want it. He's just trying to save face. He's trying to save face. That kid was so drunk, he didn't care that there were six of us in the fucking car.

• 2:10:09Speaker 02

  And Mexicans get better at fighting the drunker they get.

• 2:10:11Speaker 01

  Is that true?

• 2:10:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they get way better.

• 2:10:13Speaker 01

  See how amazing they are?

• 2:10:14Speaker 02

  They can do it all, they can do it all.

• 2:10:17Mark Gagnon?

  I'm in the backseat, I can't do nothing, but I'm like getting up, acting like I'm gonna do something just so I can seem tough to my girl.

• 2:10:24Speaker 02

  If you're gonna ask the Uber driver to get out of the fight, can you unlock it? Can you come around?

• 2:10:29Speaker 01

  I told my girl, I was like, yo, you ready to do this? We gonna fuck these people up.

• 2:10:33Mark Gagnon?

  I was just so mad at him, like, yo, this is not our city, yo.

• 2:10:37Speaker 02

  And we were driving, couldn't even drive away.

• 2:10:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:39Speaker 02

  Are you, are you there with your girl?

• 2:10:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:41Speaker 02

  She doesn't even really like the Knicks.

• 2:10:42Speaker 01

  I know, she's not our dog right here, that's a joke.

• 2:10:47Mark Gagnon?

  What the dog after putting a kid in danger?

• 2:10:50Speaker 01

  That shit was just unbelievable. Most amazing thing. I mean, game four was the most amazing experience I've ever had at a live sporting event.

• 2:10:58Speaker 02

  That's really the final.

• 2:11:00Speaker 01

  It was true. That was the thing like.

• 2:11:03Speaker 02

  At MSG.

• 2:11:04Mark Gagnon?

  The comeback was crazy.

• 2:11:05Speaker 02

  Comeback from 30.

• 2:11:07Speaker 01

  So at that, at that, at that, at that game four MSG. I was so hyped. There was some guy in the back telling me to sit down. And I turned around, I kind of snapped at him. I felt bad. And, and I wasn't thinking the moment. He was like a, like a, like a guy. Like at first I thought he was gonna be some like old tourist or whatever. I turned around and I'm already yelling. I'm like, we not sitting here as the fucking players. The fuck you mean sit down? We are standing up.

• 2:11:31Speaker 01

  And.

• 2:11:31Mark Gagnon?

  Down 30.

• 2:11:32Speaker 01

  This Mexican.

• 2:11:35Speaker 02

  That's a boogeyman, bro.

• 2:11:38Speaker 01

  He was like, like, like Irish fucking like union guy.

• 2:11:41Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 2:11:42Speaker 01

  Like, and I was like, ah, fuck. And then I felt bad. I felt like I fucked the vibe up in the section a little bit. Like I was just, so halftime, I go back up and I apologize. I was like, my bad, bro. I'm sorry. Like I was just like, well, we all want the same thing. Let's fucking do it. And then he's like, man, it's all good. I get it. And I go, but second half, you know, we're standing up. And he looks at me, he goes, oh, we're standing. I was like, alright, we're good, we're good, right? We go in the tear. When we take the lead, I turn around, he's pointing at me, I'm pointing. We fucking like.

• 2:12:11Speaker 02

  The power of friendship.

• 2:12:13Speaker 01

  Fucking, we're going crazy, right?

• 2:12:16Speaker 02

  Um, I mean, it might have helped. Right when you apologized, they came back, right?

• 2:12:19Speaker 01

  Bro, no. We down, went down like another 15. The guy behind me, behind us, there's a family. There's a father, a son, and then a mother directly behind us, right? And, and we're on fucking seats as this comeback has happened where we're going, everybody's going crazy. We're fucking hugging each other, grabbing each other. There's just one kid who's not really making any reaction. I thought he was like a Spurs fan at first. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, okay, we got this. He's like, I keep looking back, no reaction out of this motherfucker. And then I see his parents are in like Nick shit. And I'm like, I think he even has like Nick shirt. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? And we were chopping the lead down, it's down to like five or seven or something like that. I turn back and I'm like, we're gonna get you to smile. And I'm shaking, I'm gonna grab this guy. I'm like, we're gonna get you to smile. And the kid's like, eyes just go down. He goes, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. And I'm like, oh no.

• 2:13:04Speaker 01

  Fully autistic, bro.

• 2:13:06Mark Gagnon?

  Fully autistic, like, fully, probably not the environment for him to be in. He's probably white knuckling that experience. Just get through it.

• 2:13:15Speaker 01

  Ear muffs. Them getting blown out was probably the best thing for him. He's like, everybody's calm. If people leave, I can control my environment. We come back from fucking twenty nine. That kid is paralyzed and I'm shaking him by the arms, bro. Like this, we're gonna get you to smile. We're gonna get you to smile.

• 2:13:34Speaker 01

  Did you cure him? No, I didn't cure. I thought the tipping would. I looked back to see if I was to get like a little smirk or nothing out of that kid. But the guy at the end, once we came back, it was like full fucking embrace. It was like. That is awesome. It was unbelievable, Nick. Oh, you were in that one too, right?

• 2:13:48Mark Gagnon?

  No, not in game four, no.

• 2:13:49Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:13:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I was.

• 2:13:53Speaker 01

  That's Jason. That's Jason. Damn. That was fucking unbelievable. That was just unbelievable. And just the energy in the city was awesome. Like, I didn't go to any of the games. I'm just being in the city was so fun. Like, seeing like fire trucks come down the street and all the firefighters banging the outside of the fire truck. I was like, oh shit, they're real people too. You could walk up and hug anybody. You could walk up to any human in New York City and give them a big hug and they knew exactly what it was about. It was fucking amazing. Yeah. It was.

• 2:14:20Mark Gagnon?

  They gotta fix that parade, though. I didn't go, but.

• 2:14:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, Miles went. Didn't see anyone.

• 2:14:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I heard you couldn't see shit.

• 2:14:28Speaker 01

  I got there at seven fifteen in the morning. Tough one. And you couldn't even get a block within. And I had people who had buildings that were gonna let me in, but I couldn't get to the entrance of the building.

• 2:14:36Mark Gagnon?

  They gotta fix that. That's fucked up.

• 2:14:38Speaker 01

  You need the fake paperwork, my boy.

• 2:14:39Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on, bro. Miles.

• 2:14:40Speaker 01

  No, I had it all, but it was legit. I went up to a cop and I was like, hey, I'm supposed to be in that building. Here's the thing, whatever. And he goes, good luck getting through. And it was just a crush of people, a block long. Bro, you saw the guy that OD'd on top of the, on top of the thing? Oh, they saved him? The girl saved him? The girl saved him and tried to make out. Yeah. That's fire. Sandlot.

• 2:14:58Mark Gagnon?

  It was bullshit, right?

• 2:15:01Speaker 01

  Absolute fucking legend for doing that shit. Come back to life. Oh, so fucking beautiful. Anyway, listen, great to be chopping up with y'all again, man. We love you guys. We appreciate you.

• 2:15:13Mark Gagnon?

  You guys and we will see you next week. God bless. Peace.

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