To Catch A Predator | Financial Audit

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:29Speaker 01

  To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. What was the allegation before you tell me the reality?

• 0:35Speaker 02

  The pet [BLEEP] she was talking about was me.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Age, question mark, question mark?

• 0:40Speaker 03

  Childlike.

• 0:40Speaker 01

  Oh. Yeah, lock this guy up. Okay, that's a [BLEEP] kid, dude.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  That is not a child. Look at the hips on that. You're probably better with [BLEEP].

• 0:48Speaker 01

  You're actually addicted to AI [BLEEP]. What the [BLEEP] is that?

• 0:50Speaker 02

  I got an AI generator on my computer and I was training it to do stuff that looks like my artwork.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  Kids, he's generating kid [BLEEP].

• 0:58Speaker 02

  Of fictional characters, mind you.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  What the [BLEEP]? They're still kids, are they not?

• 1:02Speaker 02

  I make a lot of money doing this.

• 1:04Speaker 01

  What the [BLEEP]?

• 1:06Speaker 02

  I get to find out, is this just some guy with a weird [BLEEP]? Or is this like a guy who actually wants me to draw a real life [BLEEP]? Of his actual little sister.

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• 1:44Speaker 02

  Hi, I'm Buck. I'm a 37-year-old virgin who lives with his mom from Paradise, California. And this is Financial Audit.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Is that a meme or is that real?

• 1:54Speaker 02

  That is 100% real.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  Every bit of it.

• 1:57Speaker 01

  Blah.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Never even been kissed.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Why?

• 2:02Speaker 02

  I'm a hopeless romantic. I'm waiting for the one, man. Come on.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  Kissing's not, I mean kissing can be a first date activity. You don't need to get into the first...

• 2:11Speaker 02

  Well, listen, listen. If you're kissing on the first date, I don't want you.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, listen to the virgin, come on.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Listen, listen, I got a, I got a little math to run by you. You like math, right? Okay, listen. I have never been sexually satisfied by another person, right?

• 2:29Speaker 01

  Okay, well, you can't get satisfied if you don't do anything, but yes.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  But I have sexually satisfied thousands of people, which you are going to learn throughout this episode. So I'm the most benevolent lover in the world, Caleb.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Okay, so what is that?

• 2:44Speaker 01

  What the [BLEEP]? Okay, what did I just walk into? This is actually crazy. For, for those of you who are either new listeners, watchers, whatever you want, I literally talked to this dude for like 30 seconds before we started filming. I know nothing about him. I go into these episodes blind. Um, what the [BLEEP] kind of creatures in front of me? What do you do for a living? You live with your mom at 37? Oh, was she the sweet old lady that was out there?

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Oh, I wondered why there was an old lady in my dining area.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  She is wonderful. She's a wonderful human being.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  I'm sure you think so because she's most likely enabling you. Um, yeah, I'm getting extra confirmation being typed to me that this is real 100%. What the?

• 3:23Speaker 02

  100%. And don't you worry, there's more.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  What do you do for a living? I can't wait. What do you do for a living?

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I draw.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  That is such a [BLEEP] sadistic laugh. What the [BLEEP]? That is like serial killer laugh. What the fuck?

• 3:42Speaker 02

  Wait till you hear my real laugh.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  Comedy is subjective, Murray. Isn't that what they say?

• 3:48Speaker 01

  Oh. Okay. Uh, okay, so 37-year-old virgin that lives with his mom that draws [BLEEP]. Do you actually make money doing this? You wouldn't live with your mom if you did, I have a feeling.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  I make a lot of money doing this.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Okay, what do you make? What's your income?

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Roughly $200 to $400 per picture.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  Okay, what's our monthly income per picture?

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  What are you drawing?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  I draw commissions. People come in, they want me to draw [BLEEP].

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Come in where?

• 4:15Speaker 02

  My Discord. I just have a Discord. They come in.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  Of course, it's a virtual space.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Well, you made it sound like they're coming into a shop. Maybe you were a little entrepreneur here.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, they walk into my mom's house and then they order [BLEEP]. Yeah, exactly.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  I think there are other places outside of your mom's house that you could be like leasing out. But yeah, sure. Okay.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Okay, I probably don't need space for it. Continue.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  What hits a month? What's your monthly income?

• 4:39Speaker 02

  Um, I don't know.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  You just said you make a lot. On average, what is your, how many customs are you doing a month?

• 4:47Speaker 02

  I don't know, 14, 20.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  I guess I have to ask. Okay.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Sure, show me.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  Let's just say.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Show me one that someone else has consented to me seeing.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  On my phone? Yeah, sure.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Well, unless you brought it, I guess, sure. I'm glad you didn't. What the [BLEEP]? I think my security would burn it at the door. This is, okay, you average 36,000 hours a year, our accountant did. Okay?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  I have a whole gallery.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  That's not a lot of money. It might be for a 47-year-old virgin who lives with their mom, 37.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  37. I got 10 more years to be that bad.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Okay, blur it, I guess. Let's make sure we get this for our...

• 5:25Speaker 01

  It's just, I don't really under...

• 5:28Speaker 02

  It's furries and it's [BLEEP]. Furry.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  Okay, so...

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Did I mention it was furry?

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Didn't, but it's really just an animal sucking another animal's dick, which is just really weird. It's just not something that gets me going, not really a bestiality kind of guy.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  It's two animals sucking another animal's dick. There's two, two animals in there.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Is that what you're into? I guess that's what people are into that pay you.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  I mean...

• 5:51Speaker 01

  And that disgusts me beyond belief.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  I'm just into horny shit. If there's [BLEEP] happening, I'm probably into it.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Okay, how the [BLEEP] is someone into horny shit? A 37-year-old virgin that lives with their mom? Please tell me. That's sort of, I hope that picture was on screen, guys, but that dick is certainly blurred. No, it really didn't really look like much. I don't know how people are getting off to that. This is an image.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  A lot of people like me for my personality, whether you will believe that after this episode or not.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  I don't know your personality or not yet, but like, I just like, you're definitely a [BLEEP] freak. But why? Well, I have to ask why someone's a 37-year-old virgin if your entire life evolves around, well, I see a path, path of exile. Sure, going on. And, oh, what is that? Can you show the camera your undergarments?

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Oh, my, uh, my zebra pants? Should I stand up?

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess so. If you want to put that chair through some suffering. Oh.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  Okay. Impressive. So I understand why you're at least not getting laid, but what the [BLEEP] are you? Have you tried?

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Oh, I've tried. I've had a naked girl in my bed before.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  What did she look like?

• 6:58Speaker 02

  Blonde, uh, probably a seven.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  She was cute.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  A seven what?

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Seven, seven out of 10.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Uh...

• 7:05Speaker 02

  The dude's scale, Caleb, come on.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  How tall?

• 7:12Speaker 02

  About a foot shorter than me.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  How tall are you?

• 7:15Speaker 02

  Six foot five.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Mountain girls, they're a little bit taller, but not.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  How much does she weigh?

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Um, probably 180, 200.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  She had a skinny waist, little bit of a pot belly. She was kind of cute.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  Okay, we've really gone from seven out of 10 to kind of cute. Okay?

• 7:31Speaker 02

  I mean, seven is what IGN gives every video game in the world, so...

• 7:35Speaker 01

  What the [BLEEP] could I give a shit about IGN? So... Why could you not finish the deed? I just have to know for my own sake.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  Well, she turned into a red flag when I said, hey, do you have any STDs? And she's like, who did you talk to?

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Is that real?

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Yes, that's real. 100% real. She sends me a message. She's like, hey, my car's stuck in the snow. And I go, well, my parents aren't home right now. I'll come save you. I'll be the hero. I go down there, I save her, I bring her home. I'm like, hey, listen, let's go on some dates first. I don't really want to get laid like right now. And then, uh, she really wants to give me head. I say no. And, uh, I'm sitting there, she's talking about, oh, you have this big king-size bed. Oh, we could sleep in the same bed. And I say, this is probably where it's going to happen. So I go, all right, do you have any STDs?

• 8:24Speaker 01

  But she was already naked.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Well, she got naked after we got in the bed.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  I said no. I said, we're not doing it.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  She got in the bed, she got naked. She was trying to tempt me. I laid in the bed.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  How was she trying to tempt you?

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Grinding her ass on my dick all night.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  All night? How long were you guys there?

• 8:44Speaker 02

  Oh, well, generally eight hours is how long a night is.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  You always say no to these women? They're always saying things? I don't understand.

• 8:51Speaker 02

  So far, yeah, every, every opportunity has been me saying no, yeah.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Going from queso to case no.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hey, they don't know the queso joke. They weren't here for that.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  I think everyone sees you.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm queso.

• 9:04Speaker 05

  Wait, boy, get this dude banned from every social media platform that ever existed.

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• 10:27Speaker 01

  Okay, so you brought up STDs and she wouldn't answer.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  She wouldn't answer this whole like, oh, who did you talk to?

• 10:33Speaker 01

  After she said, who did you talk to? You didn't say, well, do you just have some?

• 10:36Speaker 02

  I said, I haven't talked to anyone. I don't know.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  And she said?

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Question that is, and she's like, well, you need to tell me who you talked to, or else nothing's gonna happen.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I guess she ruined her chance to be with.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  With the man, zebra pants. Hello?

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. Shut the fuck up.

• 10:53Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna conduct a financial audit on you.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  I guess, um, what the f- trying to get you out of your house? What are we trying to do here?

• 11:01Speaker 02

  I don't wanna leave.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  What are we trying to do here then? It might be best for you to leave. You might need to. I mean, advice, the advice might be, you need to leave.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  I want to save my mom and my brother and get us out of California.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  What?

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 11:18Speaker 02

  I'm the thirty-seven-year-old virgin savior here. I'm gonna get them out.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  Does your brother live at home?

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  Holds he?

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Uh, what's thirty-seven plus six?

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Okay, so these parents have absolutely failed in every way whatsoever. These are failures of parents.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  Well, listen, I wasn't the one that was.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Does your mom even know what you do for a living?

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  While you live there?

• 11:37Speaker 02

  She knows that I draw.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my f- dude, she, uh, does she just not communicate with you? What, does she not care? Is she just a f- fail? She is a failure of a mother. I do have to say that. She objectively is.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Don't you dare call her a failure of a mother.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  She's a failure of a mother. You and your brother live there.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 11:58Speaker 01

  Of seven years above you.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Well, six years above me.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  She doesn't even know what you do for a living when you live there and draw. What the f-? And your goal isn't even to leave. Your goal is to get her out of California, which, okay.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  What, is she being killed?

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Well, I got her out of her marriage first.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, by you and your loser brother living at home forever. I'm sure that f- their marriage.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  I didn't quite marry my mom, but, um.

• 12:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 12:22Speaker 02

  The, choke, shut up. Um, the.

• 12:25Speaker 05

  And I'll just step onto this rock and jump off into the sweet relief of death.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  I am trying my absolute best to get my mom up off her ass, get her out of the, the state, and we can go somewhere.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  You be that guy. You're not even off your ass. What does she do for a living?

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Um, she works at an antique store. She's also retired, and she's got half my dad's retirement.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  So she's off her ass. Why can't, why? What, what does she need you for?

• 12:54Speaker 02

  Paying for groceries?

• 12:55Speaker 01

  She want to leave California?

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Um, well, yes, but.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  To where?

• 13:00Speaker 02

  Well, we're thinking Idaho.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Why?

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Cause it's Idaho.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  No, why the California emergency?

• 13:06Speaker 02

  Oh, because California is just, they're driving up our insurance rates on like fire and shit. Our town burned down.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  And, uh, our house survived, and now our fire insurance is tripled and then tripled again, and then.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  Which makes sense, but that's the only reason you want to?

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Um, that's one big reason. Uh, and then the other reason is just when you're living in a burn downtown, there's nothing around you. It's fallout out there.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Okay, usually you can move to another town, but I got, okay, oh, you guys wanna move to another state? Sure.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Well, there's the convincing part.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  So you pay for the groceries?

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  You pay for rent?

• 13:35Speaker 02

  I pay for my grocery. I don't pay rent, of course not.

• 13:37Speaker 01

  She needs you to pay for your groceries?

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Well, I don't pay rent as long as I pay for myself.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She said, you said she needs you to pay for groceries, is what she said earlier. But now you say you only pay for your groceries.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  I pay for my groceries and then she eats some of it.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Oh, buddy, what the?

• 13:52Speaker 02

  We're a family, Caleb.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  A really pathetic one. I'll be honest. From the looks of it, I think the dad was right to leave this nest.

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Well, there's a whole story about my dad. We'll.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Don't need him. Why the f- don't you like your dick getting sucked?

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  I'm curious about that, you freak.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  Because it's a trust thing. I'm putting my most prized possession in a thing full of teeth. I need to be a hundred percent sure this bitch can't bite down. Come on, man.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Why would she?

• 14:24Speaker 02

  I don't know, because I live.

• 14:25Speaker 01

  The logical reason.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Drug county, I'm like ten-minute drive.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Eat a human skin, get blood in their mouth, go to jail.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  I don't know. I watch a lot of criminal psychology. People eat hearts and dicks all the time.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  You, you freak, you're watching content that's poisoned in your brain and making you afraid of.

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Like Caleb Hammer.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Thing. No, we've never made people afraid of that. We make people afraid of spending money on, making people afraid of their thirty-seven-year-old virgin living in their home forever and being bad parents.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  There's also a forty-three-year-old virgin in there.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, he's a virgin?

• 14:56Speaker 02

  I think he is.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  He had a boyfriend for a while.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Okay, well, the gays usually have sex a lot easier. He had a boyfriend, he was probably getting railed or railing.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  I don't wanna think about that, so thank you.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  So what, what am I doing with you? That's my question. What the f- am I doing with you?

• 15:13Speaker 02

  Well, when you get to my.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  Financial audit on you, but what the f- am I trying to do for you?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Get me to figure out how the hell did, like, save money instead of spending it on stupid shit.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  For why? Cause I actually do want you to have life goals. You need life goals, and I think your life goal should be actually living an independent life.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Well, I've learned I can live an independent life.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  How have you learned that?

• 15:33Speaker 02

  I lived in Ohio for a year.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  You work forty hours a month.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Well, no.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  I, I make like forty pictures.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  What's the, oh, why?

• 15:47Speaker 02

  Well, I had a friend in Ohio. Um, I met him at a brony convention, and we're gonna get to the brony. Don't you worry.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  Apparently, we're gonna get to everything, just never now.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  We can get to it now. You wanna talk about brony's?

• 15:59Speaker 01

  No, maybe I don't at all, so maybe we'll never get to it. What the, why are you in Ohio?

• 16:02Speaker 02

  So anyway, I met a guy at a brony convention, seemed like a really cool guy, and we start talking online. He goes, hey, I have a house, two hundred dollars a month rent. If you wanna move in, we got a whole room for you. I'm like, hell, yeah, sign me up. I go down there and move in. Then I find out he's a creep. Far worse than me, don't you worry.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  That mean?

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Wears diapers around the house and wants to f- his brother.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  How are you not getting any f- red flags? You lived there for a year before you realized this?

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Lived there for a year. Well, it was actually six months before I found out about the diapers.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  With him?

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Buddy.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  I didn't hear any crinkling. I didn't. Okay, so does everybody. But anyway, the guy walked around the house just like a normal human being, and he went to work every day. I didn't really like hang out with him that much. I hung out with his brother more. His brother's a cool guy.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  But the, the confusing part is actually, I actually am being told you were in a nine-year relationship. How'd you guys not do anything for nine years?

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Oh, it was an online relationship.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Oh, my f- dude.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Good, yeah.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  Come on. People have online relationships.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they meet at some point.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and it's like completely, uh, normal for them to never be you sometimes.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  What? No, it's, that is not normal. Let's not use the word normal.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Well, okay, uh, it was, it was a brony relationship first off.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  My f- what is wrong with you?

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Look.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  I hate your existence. I'd rather be speaking to a racist n-.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  We can get there. I'm, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. For the camera, I'm kidding.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  It wouldn't surprise me, unfortunately.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  My dad, my dad was the racist, but not me. Didn't, didn't rub off on me, don't worry.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  My fans rub off on me sometimes. I'm kidding about that, too.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  My gosh, dude, shut the f- up. You don't have to constantly try to make jokes. You're not necessarily good at them. You have been locked up in this room for way too long, you f- and freak.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  And I'm wearing a hoodie. I'm making it worse on myself.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  Were you with someone for nine years, only online? Again, that just stacks with you living at your mom's house to thirty-seven. When did you break up with this individual?

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Um.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  I assume woman.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  A trans woman, yeah.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, um, I.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  How do you even know?

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Well, she told me after three years of being together.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  Did you think it was a, a woman, woman, woman classic?

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Oh, I hadn't even heard her voice for the first three years.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Why? Oh, my.

• 18:25Speaker 01

  Oh, my, dude, I don't, I don't have a f- response. This is blowing my mind. People like you should not exist.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Like, people like me don't exist. I'm one of a kind, baby. Come on.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Unfortunately not. We just don't see you guys until you mass shoot something.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  Listen, I don't even have ammo for my gun, so we're all good.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  You have a gun?

• 18:45Speaker 02

  I have a shotgun.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  For the record, the gun was to defend the house from my dad. So was the metal door on the front of the house. My dad was a bad guy.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  Okay, we won't get into my dad, I guess. He's, he's only a huge character in my backstory.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  I'm still f- on the fact that you're dating someone for four years and didn't know that person was trans.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Well, I learned they were trans because, uh, she talked to me in voice, and I noticed her voice sounded really masculine. I asked why. And then she says, well, I'm transgender. And I say, well, I told you I was a dude up front when we first met, and then you told me you were a woman up front. I kinda wish you were a little more honest about that. And then she calls me transphobic, and then I felt bad, and then I was like, you know what? I don't wanna be transphobic. I'll stay with you.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  But to her, she is a woman, I guess, is what, how it works, I think.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, to her, go for it.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  But, I mean, it's.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  I ain't gonna rub in anybody's face about what they're doing in their private time, but.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, it did kind of impact you.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  It did very heavily.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  This person's private time.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Did you feel things for years of just texting?

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, yeah.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  Did you give her any money?

• 19:59Speaker 02

  Well, yes, I gave her a lot of money. I paid for her HRT for three years.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Knew it over.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  He knew it, of course, because why was she, you know, she was getting railed in her asshole.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, because she told me she was.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  And you're okay with that?

• 20:15Speaker 02

  I was a big ol' open polyamorous dude.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you Polly, buddy, you're not Polly if you're not with anyone.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Yo, I was trying to be.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  No, you guys being Polly is your person that you were with was constantly someone that wasn't you. You didn't even hear this person's voice for four years and other people hold. Three years while other people heard that person moan constantly.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  You didn't even get that.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  She was married even. Didn't tell me she was married for eight years.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  Was she cheating?

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Oh, she was cheating a lot, yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  On her husband that was transphobic, that didn't like that she was transitioning. Ah, like two years ago when I was in Ohio.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Paid for her to move to Pennsylvania or to Washington, Pennsylvania.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  She promised me we were gonna meet up finally because I was in Ohio.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  Say it, man. Say the R word. Say it.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it's not the thing you're being, you're like being catfished, but not just catfished, you're being scammed.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  For not, but for nine years, you didn't realize this?

• 21:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I, I had my inklings, especially with.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Inklings for nine years, you got some inklings.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  I got some inklings. I had a whole lot of inklings and they were all people on the internet telling me I'm being scammed and catfished and I wasn't listening to them.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Oh, and then she convinced you that you were trans.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

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• 22:57Speaker 02

  Well, we played a lot of video games together. Every time we played, I was playing a girl character. She's like, you know why you like girl characters? It's because you're a girl. I, I went along with it.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  You went along with it?

• 23:08Speaker 02

  I went along with it.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  I have independent thought.

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Well, because it's like when, have you ever been in love?

• 23:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Oh, well, that kind of destroys my.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  And I them.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Well. Sometimes that's not a good thing.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Hmm, uh, not having sex with your partner?

• 23:25Speaker 02

  Uh, okay, you make a good point. Um, but listen.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  What was the point you were trying to make? How is it not always a good thing?

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Uh, cause also means like go over, I'm being an idiot, so just, just, whatever. So.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  Dude, focus in.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Sorry. This is, this is how I combat my nerves. I just keep making jokes like a fucking idiot. Anyway, so. Yeah, paid for HRT multiple years. Um, paid for her move to Pennsylvania because she promised we were gonna meet up because I'm in Ohio, she's in Pennsylvania. She's like, it's a ten hour drive between us. Why don't we finally meet up?

• 23:56Speaker 01

  That'll do it.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  And then, uh, I don't know, it was a couple thousand dollars a DoorDash later.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  Where'd you drive to the person?

• 24:02Speaker 02

  Uh, I was offering to. I kept saying, hey, I know your address because of the DoorDashing. Why don't I just drive to your place and we can hang out? And she goes, oh, well, my husband's here. That's where it comes in that there's a husband involved. And I go, oh, so then I'm talking with a friend and then the friend finally convinces me, just go break up with her, dude. And I finally go do it.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Wow, after nine years, that's pathetic. You're pathetic.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  I was.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  No, you are pathetic. That, thinking you're a trans because a trans person told you you're a trans.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Thirty seven year old virgin living a home.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  I had blue hair.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  You're pathetic. Can't even, you won't even accept the blowjob because you think they're gonna eat it.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Like what the, you are pathetic. No, there's no other way to look at it. That is the reality.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  How does a person like just logically, just logically speaking about the blowjob thing?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Everyone does it.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  How do you?

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Everyone does it.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  In there's.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Everyone does it.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  How do you not get scared?

• 24:54Speaker 01

  Everyone that's, it's not a normal fear.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  How is that not a normal fear?

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Dude, a handjob that could squeeze it to death and make it pop. Like there's like, anything could happen anywhere.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Listen, there's teeth in there, okay?

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Have you ever seen the movie Teeth?

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Is it because you're always watching this animal?

• 25:16Speaker 01

  They got those big.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  I mean, hmm, that could, that could play into it, honestly. Maybe I need therapy.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  I think that's a good start for you.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Remember that for the budget. Get me some therapy, man.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  I don't. Oh my.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Move the ball along.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  So this is like actual, you're an actual real gunner in a disgusting way, in a pathetic, bad, disgusting, horrible.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  I'm actually pretty heavily against gunning, to be completely honest.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  You don't math.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  Math, but there's a difference. Probably once every two days, average.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Hmm, okay. Oh, you don't even watch real, you only watch animated.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  Buddy, what the is wrong with you?

• 25:58Speaker 02

  I don't wanna see real people doing it. I want to see real people doing it. That's weird.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  You need to actually get with a real person someday.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Families, come on.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Buddy, you need, but that, you need to like warm yourself up to being with a real human someday. Or else you're gonna be with like a animal.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Well, I don't wanna be with a real human who puts herself out on hub. I wanna be with a real person who's like a normal human being.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  No one's saying get with a star. I don't think a star's gonna get with you.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Looking at a star who's on hub gonna warm me up to a real one?

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Because you need exposure therapy to sucking.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Well, it, hmm, yeah, I guess a little bit, but the, if I'm watching on hub, that's not like a realistic kind of feel.

• 26:38Speaker 01

  So you were convinced you were trans. Did you actually do anything with that?

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Didn't get any kind of HRT. I just made my hair blue and wore pink socks for a while, but.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  Oh my, do you have a picture?

• 26:46Speaker 02

  I, oh my God, I hope I don't. I, I burned that part of my life. I'm gonna find out if I do.

• 26:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz it's weird. How can you be, how can you be convinced you're trans? How's that even possible? I know some kids go through to school, but it's like, it's like, dude, it's.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  I think there's like an entire, like.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  You were like thirty five.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  I, yeah, thirty five. I, I think there's like something to be said about like people who convince people that they're trans.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Yes, but you're not a kid.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Well.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  For kids, I understand.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Adults can be impressionable. You can have like a sixty year old guy.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Because you have no life experience because you've only lived at home and you have no, when's the last time you had a real job?

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Uh, dude, working at Victoria's Secret when I was like sixteen.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Saw my first boobs when I was sixteen at Victoria's Secret, baby.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  They whipped out their tits?

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, we had models on site. It was a Hollywood location. We would have models in there to do photo shoots and then get naked in front of everyone. Yeah.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  Is that why you're so broken?

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Probably. Um, there, the, the sex thing, the fear of sex, I can actually like pinpoint when that happened.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Okay, tell me.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Eleven years old, sex ed, they showed us a whole bunch of like really nasty STD shit. And then they brought in like the victims to talk about how they were and shit. And it was, uh, horrifyingly traumatizing for me.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  Whoa, geez, going into hardcore, this crazy at eleven. I remember the STD conversation at eleven and seeing pictures that didn't. With me, it was just like, I'm gonna get with people that are tested.

• 28:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and the, the reason why like that was even allowed was my parents literally signed a permission slip.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  That literally said, we're gonna have victims in here talking about.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Well, hey, don't anyone and you'll be fine.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  I'm completely fine on that front cuz I ain't, I ain't even consensually.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Because, exactly, you're not consensually people, you're not getting, no offense, not really worthy. Number two.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  Thank you. That's a good compliment.

• 28:41Speaker 01

  You can't move quick enough for someone.

• 28:43Speaker 02

  And it's not big enough. Don't you even worry.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  Oh shit. Chad, I'm so sorry. How big is it?

• 28:51Speaker 02

  Hard or soft?

• 28:53Speaker 01

  Hard.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Four and a half inches.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  You laugh.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  I'm proud of my small, don't you worry. He's my buddy. I love that man.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Can I have a tape measure, please?

• 29:16Speaker 01

  I need to, I need to visualize this. This is, this is deeply concerning. I've never. Yeah, it still blows my mind that five is the average in the United States. That's crazy.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Half an inch below.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  But.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  That's rough.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  That's a very familiar length you got right there.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  That's supposed to be the growth stage.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  That's the growth stage. That's the boy. Hey, he does damage. I've broken sex toys.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  It's like, like no movement. That's such a limited movement.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Wow, this is crazy, crazy.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  You've broken, did you say you broke sex toys?

• 30:16Speaker 02

  I've broken sex toys.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  Of course. I guess that's all you're kidding with.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  I, uh, so I was like a crowdfunder for some auto dick sucking machine. And yes, it was therapeutic. I was trying to warm myself up to it.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  No, it's just gonna encourage you to never get out there. So how have you found women?

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Um, just online, brony community, furry community.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Can you not just use a dating app, just a normal dating app and just get someone?

• 30:42Speaker 02

  I've tried to use a dating app.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  And?

• 30:43Speaker 02

  Look at me, Caleb.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  Yes, well.

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• 31:15Speaker 01

  There's gonna be other, there's gonna be women that look like you.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Would you fuck a woman who looks like me?

• 31:21Speaker 01

  No, of course not. But a woman that looks like you might fuck a woman that looks like you.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  So, well, if I ever get extremely desperate and I don't want to be 40 year old virgin.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  No, I mean, for what it's worth, I don't know what's happening. The fat women these days. Just look at their comments. All the women are calling them beautiful and cheering them on and something they're.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  And that is absolutely something I don't want.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  They've been, they've been given an ego thing that is absolutely crazy. And then they go for like the hottest men and they, I don't know what the fuck is happening.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  And somehow the hottest men.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  The good thing for, I mean, you're a loser, but the reality is at least the fat men that aren't getting laid, they know they're losers. And for some reason with the gender reverse card, like they don't realize what they are.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  I'd say I'm not.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  At least recognize that I don't know what that part of our culture is, but it's very weird.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Not that far from, from, you know, like I, I'd say I'm a loser, but sure, but I'm not that far off. I could get there. How many girlfriends you have?

• 32:14Speaker 01

  How many do I have?

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  One.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, one more than me. All right. So I'm getting there.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Okay, interesting.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  I had that one in my back pocket. I'm sorry.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  The, the trans thing though, how long are you trans for? I'm still.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  Two years.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Okay. Does it change your perspective on trans people?

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Uh, no, what changed my perspective on trans people was talking to a lot of trans people, mostly in the brony community.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 32:43Speaker 02

  That's a whole damn avalanche, Charlie.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  That's what I'm asking.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  Okay, then I'll answer it.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  An other story. Shut up. If I'm asking about it, then tell me.

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Do it, mother. All right, all right. So brony community, that's where it all started. It all took off. One day, long ago, 2011, I made a comic, everyone loved it. I got big in the brony community. So I'm going to conventions. I'm seeing a bunch of people. I get hanging out with a whole bunch of people. Yeah, I go to cons, I sell my art, people love my shit at cons. I made thousands at those things. Anyway.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Why not?

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Oh, you have no idea.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  I have no idea.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  So.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Oh, it's cause there's, I got a YouTube video here.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah. That's my.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  It has nine million views 12 years ago. Wow, really living off of 12 years ago. You haven't done anything since then? That sucks.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, that was update 300 to my comic.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Uh, it's like art, I think.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  That was an ongoing comic for multiple years. That was like at the, I don't know, seven year moment of my comic and I only ended it a couple of years ago. So.

• 33:44Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh. Okay. So many people are in the comments like, why are we all taking a deep dive in your childhood? Your childhood is now ruined watching this episode. Ladies and gentlemen.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  Well, it's, it's grim, dark, violent pony shit. Of course it's ruining childhoods and I'm proud of it.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, okay. But what about the trans people?

• 34:03Speaker 02

  Okay, so met a whole bunch of people, got a big giant friend group, got all these people surrounding me. And, uh, I started to like actually hang out with a whole bunch of people in the trans community, but mind you, it was the brony community trans people. And they were just like, they're so goddamn picky about absolutely everything, to the point where they got these rules, these like absolutely fascistic rules about how everything needs to happen, how conversation literally needs to happen. I've had people, when I said I was trans, I was a gender non-binary for the record. I was have any pronouns I want. Yay, pronouns. So this girl walks up to me who was a friend of mine for like four years at a point.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  And she goes, what are your pronouns? I go, any. And she goes, no, you have to pick one. And I go, what? Any. And her boyfriend like nudges me and he's like, just say a pronoun, just do what she says. And I'm like, her? And they go, okay, awesome. I'll call you her from now on. She walks away. I'm just like, what was that? He's like, oh, she gets extremely mad if people don't pick pronouns. I'm like,

• 35:12Speaker 02

  huh?

• 35:13Speaker 01

  So now you don't like trans people? So?

• 35:15Speaker 02

  Uh, I think the trans community can get pretty bad, but no, my best friend's trans.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  They're definitely killing a lot of people these days. Nah, it's a joke, kind of, sometimes.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  Uh, 43% of the time, it's a joke.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  Dude, I don't even know.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  They make that joke. I can make it too.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck to even do with you, man? What am I doing to make this a productive conversation? I'm definitely learning a lot about, uh, an alternate life path that I'm glad I did not go down, I guess. I don't even know if it was an option for me, but this is absolutely.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  Oh, it's always an option, don't it?

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Oh, you were telling Lindsay that it's, they're all and fascists.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  Lot of them, yeah.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Pedos?

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Shitload of pedos, absolutely.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  What do you mean pedos? What's happening in pedos?

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Well, when you got a whole bunch of grown men who are watching a show for little kids, of course you're gonna have the people who are using it to get in contact.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  What that means, watching a show for little kids?

• 36:04Speaker 02

  My Little Pony.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  Or is that you?

• 36:06Speaker 02

  Well, I was watching the show just because I like the show.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  How's that different?

• 36:11Speaker 02

  I'm not saying literally all of them are, I'm just saying there's a shitload of in there. A lot of people are using it as like a gateway drug into talking to kids.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Qualify in that same, how do you, how do you?

• 36:20Speaker 02

  That's why I got out.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  How do you know they're pedos though?

• 36:23Speaker 02

  Because they tell me they're pedos.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  They say I'm a.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Yes, directly to me.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  That my, my, you know, the diaper wearing dude?

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Literally told me he would fuck a kid if he could. That's why I moved out.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  I also called the police on him. Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  The person was trans?

• 36:42Speaker 02

  He wasn't trans, no.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, what was there to call the, unfortunately, what was there to call the police on? Um, he didn't do anything. He just said something absolutely horrible and disgusting.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  And I said, this guy told me he wanted to fuck a kid if he could and you should probably check him out. They didn't do anything.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, cause again, they have to, unfortunately have to actually do something. We can't.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  They got a warrant.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  Unfortunately lock someone.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  They got a warrant later on, uh, scrubbed his hard drives and now he's in prison.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah. Unfortunately, I am being told you literally draw underage content.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Did draw underage content.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  And when did you stop? Because I'm saying will draw underage content.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Well.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Yeah, everyone else is a pattern, not you.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no. Listen. Okay. So in the brony community, one of the first big red flags that tipped me off that the brony community was full of pedos was how unbelievably popular con is, which is con for ponies. So.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  I know the word con define it though. I've heard it in drama shit.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Childlike content is what it's short for.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  It's a Japanese word for like childlike.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah, go on.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, people are perverts. Anyway, so.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Do not give me that look.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Buddy, you were drawing, where are, continue.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  So in the brony community, the con tag is one of the like top 10 tags.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  I told you will if you're hard for money in that moment. You will.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  Well, so will anyone.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  No, I wouldn't.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  If you could draw you probably.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Underage, I don't think so.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Of fictional characters, mind you, non-human fictional characters. They're horses.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  What the, they're still kids, are they not?

• 38:28Speaker 02

  They're horse kids.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  You have a people with the indication that they are children.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  I'm not giving human rights to horse kids.

• 38:36Speaker 01

  Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, do you have a, a, a non-nude version?

• 38:41Speaker 02

  No.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Can you cover up a nude?

• 38:45Speaker 02

  No, it's all gone.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  Well, that's probably good for your hard drive. I'm just very curious. I don't want to say the naked part, but I'm very curious like what the, uh, you're saying it's just a horse, but I have a hard feeling you're not just drawing like, like spirit.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I am.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  What? And it's just like hyper realistic.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  Yep, yeah, that's just. Well, not hyper realistic. It's stylized. It's my shit, but no, it's like the ponies. It's the ponies from the show.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  But it's humanized.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Well, no, no, no, no. I would draw the little ones, the little like the marshmallow-y ones from friendships is magic voiced by Tara Strong. Hi Tara, by the way.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Okay, so underage horses.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  And what would happen?

• 39:24Speaker 02

  Foulcon.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 39:25Speaker 02

  A fool is a young horse.

• 39:28Speaker 01

  And what would happen?

• 39:30Speaker 02

  So that tag is incredibly popular in the brony community. They really, really, really like full con.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Lock them all up. Okay.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  And the guy who drew them.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Listen, when there's perverts and they know where to go to get their perverted shit, here's a, here's a thing.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  Righted.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  Here's a thing. I talk to my customers. I'm an artist that actually talks to each, every, each and every individual customer. So they come to me and they're telling me what they want. I get to find out, is this just some guy with a weird? Or is this like a guy who actually wants me to draw real life?

• 40:03Speaker 01

  No.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Of his actual little sister. Which is a true story, by the way.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Did you?

• 40:09Speaker 02

  No. Got the police involved. That guy's in prison.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Okay, but you have drawn literal penises of underage.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  Not of real people, but of ponies. Yeah.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  It's a horse dick. Yeah.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  So the kids in the show.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  Uh huh. Scoodaloo, sweetie bell.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  The kids in the show, you have drawn them naked.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  How is that not beyond up?

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Because I'm not the one goon into it. The people who are paying me for it are the ones goon into it.

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Okay, so if you're the one that takes child photos, you're not the villain, just the people that get off? That's your logic?

• 40:41Speaker 02

  Of course you're the villain, but a real child's involved there.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  But that's your logic, though.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  It's a real child versus a fictional horse.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Fine, if you generate.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  Generate?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Generate.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  AI?

• 40:52Speaker 01

  AI and then do the art to it.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Arrest anyone who's making like realistic AI shit.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  But that's following your same logic. As long as a real person's not involved, you still picked a child.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  The law states that if it can be mistaken as a real child or looks like a real child, it's illegal. But if it is obviously not a real child.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Fucking moral, dude.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  It's legal. Oh, I think it's morally wrong. That's why I got out of it.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  Be honest, when's the last time?

• 41:14Speaker 02

  Uh, seven years ago?

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Bullshit.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  No, I got out of the Brony fandom and I stopped, full stop. Erased every bit of it that I had online. I said, I don't do that anymore.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  Okay, but on that shit you have that you just showed me, you will draw young looking characters.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  I draw petite characters, yes.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  Exactly. So you still do.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Small.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Not My Little Pony specifically.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Technically speaking, it still does fall under the category of because that just means childlike.

• 41:39Speaker 01

  Yes, you're drawing naked children.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  It's not real children.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Though.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  You'd furries, sometimes anime characters and shit like that, but.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Anime characters?

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 01

  Naked?

• 41:48Speaker 02

  Not naked usually. Well, sometimes, yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  And the children?

• 41:51Speaker 02

  No, they're petite.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  In the source material, they're not children. They're, they're at full grown, seven billion year old dragons. Also, I don't draw the ones that literally look like kids, just for the record, just for the cameras.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Actually can have a second Holocaust. It's just all of pedos.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Okay, get rid of the pedos. If I go to, as long as the other ones go, I'm all for it.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm down. I think we're all okay with that.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Bye bye.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Where's Thanos? He snap yet?

• 42:21Speaker 01

  This is insane. I mean, you've been canceled for being called a pedo groomer. Like, what the is that?

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Being a groomer, peto? What the? No, no, no, no, no, no. Alleged, people called me a pedo because of that shit that I drew.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Yes, and I think that's actually kind of fair.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  You don't pull groomer into that. There ain't, there ain't never been grooming. I never talked to a kid in my life.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  What's the, what's the groomer thing?

• 42:40Speaker 02

  That's a, that's a story, the groomer thing.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Oh, so there is a groomer that you're making it sound like that didn't exist?

• 42:46Speaker 02

  Well, it doesn't exist. It was a misinterpretation.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Or what was the allegation before you tell me the reality? Give me the allegation.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Okay, the allegation was, wow, there's so many pedos in the Brony community. Ever since I was 12, I've been groomed by people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she was saying that and the, the pedos she was talking about was me. But I didn't talk to her when she was 12. I talked to her when she was 20. She was turning 21 like a month later. Listen, we know you had seen 11 year old girl. She said she was 12. That was when I met her. She was 20.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  What was the allegation? That you groomed her?

• 43:22Speaker 02

  The allegation was that I groomed her, yeah. She was, she called me a pedo.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  Saying that happened? Well, yes, I would say you're a pedo based on the art that you do, yes. But besides that, no, you still do not, just not My Little Pony. It's anime char-

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Girls can be small, man.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  No, but if you make them look adolescent and petite, come on, you know what they're getting off on.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't make them adolescent and petite.

• 43:43Speaker 01

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• 46:06Speaker 01

  Yes, it's just to screenshot it, and I want the most

• 46:12Speaker 01

  not

• 46:14Speaker 01

  the one that you should select should be uh, don't cherry pick, because I know you're able to cherry pick.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm just going for the, I, I literally have a character that's a petite girl. That's one of mine.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  You're saying girl?

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Girl means woman. It means female. Come on.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  Screenshot it and do the draw tool and cover up the naked's. Okay, we have been provided some covered photos from beforehand that we will censor and put on screen now. Yeah, I'm sorry, the one on the right is a kid. I mean, that's a kid. That's a kid. The one on the right's a kid, right?

• 46:51Speaker 02

  I don't know which one you're looking at. That isn't even my art. That's not mine.

• 46:58Speaker 01

  Okay, then I need.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  That's the girl who called me a pedo. She drew that.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  Okay, then she's a pedo too.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  I guarantee she is. No, that one's not mine.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  Oh, shit. No, no, no, the screenshots below are from the accusations. I need to see your art. Come on.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Okay, it's loading.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Are you on the wifi?

• 47:12Speaker 02

  I am on the wifi.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  You sure?

• 47:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got on.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  No, I'm not seeing wifi. Just green here. 3, 2. That's when you know they're poor.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Failed to load image. Yeah, it was trying to load it on the failed to load image. All right. I'll reconnect to the wifi.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  So while he pulls it up, this is the accusation. So this is the proof that I have that was given to me. And we are putting this here. Feel like I'm like a drama creator right now. But I'll do it. Good. So controversy with the screenshots. Number one, evidence that the girl was flirty. Oh, this is from him. So this is the defense, not her accusations. Okay. The girl was flirting with me, drawing our characters together. So they drew your characters together.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Birthday gift for, say you.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. You'll have to bleep that.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Uh, and the twin he made, uh, she made with you as well on stream.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Uh, okay. Number two, her vague posting about pedos a few days after she blocked me and ended the friendship. This is the post I mentioned where she went on Twitter and called me a pedo. I'm who she's referring to. Mind you, she was 20 at the time and I was 34. I've been in an MLP, what's that?

• 48:25Speaker 02

  My Little Pony.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  fandom since I was 14, nearly seven years later, and there are still the same amount of pedos. Kind of sad TBH. Number three, evidence her birthday is January 16th and her current age on her Twitter bio, which confirms she was in fact 20 at the time. There are still pedophiles in the fandom. Doesn't mean you, by the way.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  She meant me.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  Which you are. Uh, she said was about to turn 21 in a few days. Actually didn't know until now. Well, when did you know? Or, so you may have thought she was underage?

• 48:56Speaker 02

  No, I definitely did not think she was underage.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  May have known.

• 49:00Speaker 02

  May have known what?

• 49:01Speaker 01

  That you didn't know until now. You said, I didn't know until now, searching her Twitter for the last hour that her birthday was in January.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Oh, because I thought her birthday was like three days after when she called me a pedo and blocked me.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Oh, shit, it's hideous. Number four. Before and after self is a good. What's the difference?

• 49:21Speaker 02

  I personally think that the before looked pretty good. The after definitely doesn't look good.

• 49:26Speaker 01

  Okay, so the seven in your bed was, uh?

• 49:29Speaker 02

  The seven in my bed looked like the one on the left, yes. Hey, everyone's seven is a different seven.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  That's what I tried to say at the beginning. You said there's a man scale.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  There is a man scale. It's just different for every man.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  You see how right up my alley she wasn't?

• 49:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, right up my alley.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  She let herself go. That's letting herself go? And went full nose ring therapy? All she did was fucking add a nose. Okay. She said, dodge the full clip apparently, as it goes. Dude, yeah. Hey, guess what? If you're in the freak community, you're gonna get canceled for being in the freak community because all the freaks are the people who do cancel culture bullshit. Yes, if you surround yourself with those freaks, you're gonna face the consequences from those freaks. That's why I only allow normal people in this community.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Because I don't want freaks like this, because they do just.

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• 50:44Speaker 01

  Cancel each other for nothing. They weaponize terms like grooming. They weaponize terms like pedo. They do all this shit.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  Which I hate, and I got the out of it because I'm sick of it.

• 50:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, you did a little pedo adjacent stuff, though. Come on.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  I drew some.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Adjacent.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  I drew shit being, I was being paid for, and now I just draw some petite characters. It's fine.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Paid justifies, guys. It's just following orders.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Hey, some people sell drugs. I just drew some weird shit.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  Really funny foreshadowing tweet I found while looking through her tweets. The irony.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  It is not, it is not loading anything.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Find it from somewhere else then, dude. Buddy, come on. What is wrong with you?

• 51:20Speaker 02

  I gotta have something on my phone.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  I'm a pedo after all.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Okay, potentially deep, meaningful relationships. Wait, it's me who's ruining them? Always has been. She posted that. Okay, buddy, you are too deep. You screenshot a fucking tweet from her from 2000?

• 51:34Speaker 02

  For proof that her age was very-

• 51:35Speaker 01

  Online, you have no life. This is so sad. This is so sad.

• 51:38Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  Number six, the DMs I sent her on December 4th, not knowing at the time she had already written me off as a pedo on the 2nd. Hey, believe her name. I haven't fully recovered from my depressive state I've been in. Maybe go outside.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  Come on. Alright, everyone come behind me.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Everyone come, except, except for Lindsay, because Lindsay has to be nice to him.

• 52:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna force you to give your opinion. Is this, uh, childlike? Age, question mark, question mark. She's a stuffed animal. She's like thousands of years old.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  It's very inanimate. I don't, I don't.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  Childlike.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Oy.

• 52:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, lock this guy up.

• 52:27Speaker 01

  Okay, that's a [__] kid, dude.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  You all, man. Someone had to be on my side. That is not a child. Look at the hips on that.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  You said, I wanted to send you an apology. I came on really strong with having a crush on you and I don't think I respected what you were going through with your breakup and stuff, especially because I didn't even know the whole story. I'm comfortable just being friends. I didn't want to be pushy or anything. And if I made you uncomfortable at any point, I'm really sorry. You're a good friend.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  I was on morphine when I wrote that.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Keeping it at that, especially because there's a pretty big age gap between us. Anyway, 14 years is pretty, like, yeah. Hope you've been doing well. Uh huh. So she just, uh...

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Should we get into the full story? So you know what the hell going on?

• 53:14Speaker 01

  No. You make 3,000 hours a month is kinda, if it's 32,000 hours a year, it's about 3,000 books a month.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  You need to set a little bit aside for taxes, but you're not gonna be taxed, I should say that, but you do have like self employment.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  I think in California, I don't get taxed unless it's over 36.

• 53:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, but there is the federal government as well.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 53:30Speaker 01

  You have to pay federal taxes.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 53:32Speaker 01

  Have you filed?

• 53:33Speaker 02

  I file as a dependent with my mom.

• 53:37Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh. You're so [__] pathetic. Okay, so you probably

• 53:42Speaker 01

  don't pay anything, right?

• 53:45Speaker 02

  Uh, state of California says I don't need to.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Not the state of California, the federal government. Yeah, of course California is gonna enable freaks like you. Sure, I get that. That's predictable.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  Well, they, I've tried to get the enabling for my disability, but they won't.

• 54:00Speaker 01

  What disability do you have?

• 54:03Speaker 02

  Rheumatoid arthritis. Look at my weird fingers.

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Uh, yourself in, uh, anime land.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  If it, if it means that the, if it means that the pain goes away, I'll go all over it. Don't you worry.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  You can draw for a living.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  Shut the [__] up.

• 54:19Speaker 02

  I can, I can sit down and draw someone getting knotted by a werewolf and make 400 bucks and then just go eat.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Buddy, you make 32,000 hours a year.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 54:27Speaker 01

  And you game for eight hours a day.

• 54:29Speaker 02

  More than eight.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Exactly. So shut up. You can do customer service.

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Customer service.

• 54:35Speaker 01

  Yes, that's a job that exists in the real world that people do. We have people like them here, for DollarWise.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  How the hell would customer service work from home?

• 54:42Speaker 01

  Many do.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  Do they?

• 54:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, hourly work from home. Yes, absolutely.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  Huh. That's a thing I can do.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  You can do a lot.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  I, no, I mean, like, like, I really genuinely did not know that was a thing I could do.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  You pathetic creature. I'll get you a course career certification and a certification of your choice. You can do tech, you can do trades, you're not gonna do trades. But then that will maybe go into IT or something. So I'll get you that. A lot of people in the audience have converted them into six-figure jobs. But what the [__] do you think your financial score is zero to 10?

• 55:09Speaker 02

  Four.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't even know how. I mean, you're pathetic. You have nothing going for you in life, but sure. If you want to figure out what your hammer financial score is, get it for free at CalebHammer.com. Take the assessment, figure out where you stand in the world of money, where you're doing poorly, where you're doing great. And if you don't want to be like a guest that ends up on the show, it's gonna, I mean, it's gonna take a lot more than this for this kind of guest, but the usual guests, make sure to download the DollarWise app, take the free trial, see if you like it. And if you do, sign up for the annual version, cuz it saves you nearly 50%. And you get the physical version of my 30-day meal plan signed by me mail directly to you and the digital version of our cookbook. So there you go. Do you cook?

• 55:43Speaker 02

  I would love to.

• 55:44Speaker 01

  Oh my [__].

• 55:45Speaker 02

  I just got a cast iron skillet. I'm gonna try.

• 55:48Speaker 01

  You don't need a cast iron skillet to cook, freak.

• 55:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's cool. All cool kids have the World of Warcraft cast iron skillet, okay?

• 55:55Speaker 01

  Requires a lot more maintenance.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, uh, I can try to do maintenance.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  Oh shit, dude.

• 56:01Speaker 02

  Is maintenance something I can do from home?

• 56:02Speaker 01

  What, how do you eat?

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Um, mostly DoorDash.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Oh my [__].

• 56:07Speaker 02

  Even up, burn downtown. What am I gonna get? Like

• 56:11Speaker 01

  If there's restaurants to DoorDash, one of those groceries you can go get.

• 56:15Speaker 02

  Good point. I can DoorDash the groceries. Good, good, good.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  Even at a minimum, that'll at least start building some life skills at 37. I, I think, yeah, that would be fine. Um, okay, let's see. What do we have? PayPal credit? What's going on here?

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Okay, so PayPal credit's my everything. That's, that's all I got. Uh, every bit of money I ever make, every bit of money I ever owe, it's all PayPal credit.

• 56:36Speaker 01

  Why?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  That's just how people pay me.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Oh, you get paid through, yeah, but this is like the credit card.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, but it goes into the

• 56:42Speaker 01

  PayPal through credit, uh, through Pay, you get paid through PayPal?

• 56:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  But this is your PayPal credit account.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  It's connected.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  Okay, well, it's over the limit by hundreds of dollars.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Thousands.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Is it higher now?

• 56:55Speaker 02

  The limit was changed to like 2,000, I think, so my

• 56:59Speaker 01

  They cut it?

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  And they should, because you're being enabled by every system, the state of California, your mom, your brother. Even the people you

• 57:10Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  I still, here's the thing, I, I, the finances are very important to go through, but the actual end outcome is what's important, because you're not gonna commit to anything if there's not an actual goal or anything. Why can't we get you living out?

• 57:24Speaker 02

  Well, the

• 57:24Speaker 01

  Come on, why can't we get you to move out and try to be independent?

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Well, cuz I want my mom to go with me.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  She can move nearby. What are you, you don't provide to the house.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  That, that is kind of the goal. I do want to live on my own, but I want her to come with me.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  Oh, but you don't provide to the house. What's preventing her from going wherever anyway?

• 57:40Speaker 02

  I mean, sometimes I try to buy my, I'll get gas for the car, I'll pay for, I paid for a refrigerator. Come on.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  You can share a car? Yeah, we share a car. I don't own a car. You're just never, you're never gonna be independent. You're never gonna be independent. You're such a [__] failure. You're bragging about sometimes paying for the gas.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Dear man.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  Buddy, you live in something with a diaper and you couldn't even tell. You don't know what the [__] is going on. Shut the [__] up.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  He didn't crinkle. He got the diapers that were the [__] cloth ones. He was a [__] weirdo. He was wearing the adult diapers. He wanted to [__] his brother. We never even touched on that.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  I don't need to. He wanted to [__] his brother. He's weird. Okay, there's nothing else to talk about there.

• 58:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  Right?

• 58:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, story done, honestly.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  Throw my mustard in the crap, in the trash.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  I don't care about your mustard.

• 58:22Speaker 02

  I care about my mustard.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  I can't let you draw kids naked.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  I don't draw kids naked.

• 58:26Speaker 01

  Yes, you do.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 58:28Speaker 01

  What, if you call it a different word, it doesn't change the reality of what is being provided. We all saw that person, that person's a kid.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  It's a stuffed cat.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  It's a kid that has a little bit of more animal characteristics, cuz it's a furry.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  And a little bit more like hourglass shaped hips.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  Shit, yes, it's anime, but the people, the people that practice furry things are still humans underneath the furry.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Sometimes. Some of them are way more into the animal shit. They're into like the barbed dicks and shit.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  People.

• 58:54Speaker 02

  Eh, some of them go like, you've seen the dog girl before. Some people throw their humanity out for the furry shit.

• 59:00Speaker 01

  But if you [__] that person, you're not [__] an animal, you're [__] a person.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  Some people like to think they are [__].

• 59:05Speaker 01

  I know, and that's freaky, but you drawing that, it's a human.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  Well, if

• 59:10Speaker 01

  With furry characteristics.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  If someone can [__] a person and pretend they're an animal while they're doing it, then what, who's to say they can't [__] a person and think they're [__] a kid while they're doing it?

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Let's be very clear. To follow your logic, if someone [__] a kid that is dressed in furry shit, it's no longer pedophilia, cuz it's actually just a furry.

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Absolutely pedophilia. Kill that person.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Buddy, that's your logic that you're using for your own artwork though.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  My artwork's fictional.

• 59:35Speaker 02

  There ain't a real kid being hurt.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Okay, so that's what matters in the end, whether or not someone's being hurt, not what's being consumed and drawn?

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  Okay, so you can draw underage. That's okay, as long as no one's being hurt.

• 59:46Speaker 02

  I don't care what the [__] people draw, as long as nobody's hurting anyone.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  There you, thank you. We're fine. That's the

• 59:51Speaker 02

  I don't draw it anymore.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  Anymore? That's your character.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  I don't draw [__] for that character.

• 1:00:02Speaker 02

  I have characters that are off limits cuz they're too childlike.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  Dude, I don't [__] know, man. I don't [__] know.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  In fact, everybody knows a couple of my characters that I'm like, this character looks a little too much like a kid. I'm never gonna draw [__] for them. I got, I got a list of them.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Sure. So, I'm also being told you endlessly when you need money to like to pay for this minimum payment, for example. You go in your little Discord, which is your entire ecosystem and your entire life, which, I mean, when and if I have kids, I'm just not even gonna let them touch a [__] device until they're 18, because of people like you. Um, like, if they become this, I'm literally gonna kill myself. That's not even a joke.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  I will absolutely scare any child away if I possibly can. Don't you worry.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz you'll draw them.

• 1:00:43Speaker 02

  I don't think kids should be on the internet.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz then they'll see themselves drawn by you.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  If that's what it takes. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  I don't know, man. I

• 1:00:52Speaker 02

  I ain't gonna draw kids.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Also, by the way, you paying $200 a month is not being independent in Ohio. $200 a month in rent, what the [__] are we doing here? That's not a real rent payment. It's not even a utility payment. Shut the [__] what did he raise it to? 250?

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  He raised it to 275.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  Shut up!

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  After a raccoon broke in and I told him, call the [__] and [__] people.

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Apparently you go into Discord and you endlessly e-bag for money.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  I don't e-bag. I open for commissions. That's not e-bagging. I say, hey, everybody, I need pizza. There's commission slots open. People send me DMs, they get commissions. They get the characters drawn [__] in each other. I get to eat Little Caesar's. We're all good.

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  What you do is you go on then, you're in the Saying like, oh, you know, my money situation is really bad. This is why I need the money. This is why I need the money. You're e-begging for the commission. You're not like, here's my talent.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Transparent.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  You're not like, here's my talent. If anyone.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  I'm telling people.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  People are sympathy donating to you.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  I got fillings that need to be filled. They're like $275.

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  So you're like Boogie 2988 on there. That's all you're doing.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Hey, at least I have cancer. I don't have cancer. I'm joking. That's a stupid joke.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  I have the arthritis, though. You can see my weird finger.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Sure, but you literally game all day.

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  I got nothing for that one.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Exactly. So shut the up. And buddy, I know the game in shade. That gets your fingers twisted. So I know you're doing shit.

• 1:02:16Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Like, shut the, like, actually, shut up. This is so pathetic, the way you are acting.

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Got a weird pinky right there. Doesn't, doesn't unbend.

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  I don't care. There's a lot of things you can do in life, just like you literally are on your computer all day.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  It's that the arthritis.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  Okay, so you're in, instead of being hired for your talent, you're in there e-begging, and that's why some people are pathetically supporting you.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  They are hiring me for the talent. People want their character drawn by me, not by some other artist who charges less than me for the record.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Tell them you, there, you need it for your film.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  Cause I want to be transparent. I want to tell them where their money's going.

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  So?

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  When a charity opens, it says where the money's going.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  They don't need to know where they're wa, yeah, but that's charity. That's a donation.

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, and they know where the money is going.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  No, when people watch this, they don't need to know where I spend my money.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  I'd like people to know where they're spending their money. It's like, hey, your money isn't just gonna go disappearing to me getting and blow. It's gonna go for me getting new teeth.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  No, it should be based on the product they're getting. Product and service they're getting, nothing else.

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  I display the product too. I'm like, look.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  But that should be why they're getting it, not because you're pathetically e-begging.

• 1:03:17Speaker 02

  I just like to explain to people where my, where the money goes. Some people just like to know that.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  Do they even actually really know where the money goes? Because, do you even know where the money goes?

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  I know where the money goes.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Where does the money go?

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  Uh, mostly to, uh, video games.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Okay, or like $600 going out to eat a month?

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  600.

• 1:03:34Speaker 01

  600.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  Is that what it is?

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  600. See, you don't even know my 600 pound life.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ. I didn't know it was 600.

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  What else is on that guy?

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Spend dramatically more than you make. It's not even close. And it's mostly because, I mean, we're maxing out this credit card and everything. It's really bad. And I mean, for what it's worth, you have made a lot of money. 2018, you made 91K.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  Did you pay the taxes for that?

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  No, and they're after me for that one.

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  Good. They should come and lock you up for multiple reasons.

• 1:04:00Speaker 02

  But I'm getting on that one at least. They want $1500.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Because you owe 67,000, or you made 67,000 in 2017 as well.

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  You owe for that?

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're coming after me.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  Okay, when's the last time you actually made money? Cause you're not making money now. Um, oh, we didn't even know about the taxes. That's, that's fresh to us.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  2017, 2018, they've been hounding me for years.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  Just those two years? Did you make money in 19?

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, no, not.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  I'm sure once you started getting the stimmys and all those benefits in California during the pandemic, you just lived it up.

• 1:04:27Speaker 02

  The reason, no.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  At home.

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  I didn't get a stimmy. Um, the, California is a piece of shit. They only gave my mom one and that was it.

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Well, maybe because you're, well, cause, cause you, you're a dependent.

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  Cause I was a dependent, yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  So that's actually fair.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  My brother's also a dependent.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  So that's actually fair. You guys suck.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Well, um, the, the, um, 2017, 2018, I was going to conventions. I used to sell merchandise. I used to meet people like Tara Strong and shit like.

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  Pedo conventions, yes.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  Yes, the convention's full of pedo people, yes. And that was where I made all that money those years. Then COVID happened, no more cons. Now I can't get any money anymore.

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  You know what's crazy, dude? Literally, especially with all the Medicaid, I know, I'm saying this is a fact, but at least I'm not morbidly obese. But even still, the thing is, you have a good head of hair.

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  The beard situation, I had to figure out, but lose some weight, get on the Ozempic, get on the, the like triple blockers now. They're all the shit. Lose some weight and you can go out there and you can find yourself a nice gal. And with the type that you have, you could actually date a lot of people you're interested in because they're horrendous.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Thank you. The beard situation, because you touched on that.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  That's the least important thing of what I just said.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  You hide your chins with a beard.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  I got like eight of them under here.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying. Let's lose money. Uh, no, you're doing that. Let's lose.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  I'm already doing that.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  Weight.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  I am losing weight.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  You are?

• 1:05:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm 180 pounds down from where I was four years ago.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  Four, really?

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:05:47Speaker 01

  How?

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  I have a personal trainer.

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  What? You go outside and go somewhere?

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  A guy I drew furry for, it was a personal trainer and he agreed to do personal training for me over the internet.

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  Still doing it?

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  And is there a timeline?

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  Forever?

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Good. So you're working out?

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Are you dieting?

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  Um, he's got me on a calorie deficit plan.

• 1:06:04Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  This is working out. Shit, you were bigger than this?

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  I was way bigger than.

• 1:06:08Speaker 01

  Dude, that's crazy.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  This shit up. Now it's kind of loose.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Were you on mobile? Close to?

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Very close, yes.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Had the cankles and everything.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  And what kind of drug this guy?

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  Um, he wanted a picture of his character, uh.

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  Oh, what was this character like?

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  His character's a, a fully grown dude.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Um, who's like a rabbit, something like that. And, uh.

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  Why don't people just go have sex with humans? Like, why, what?

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Well, he really wanted to have sex with, uh, you know, Muffet from Undertale?

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  Spider Girl. I have her as my phone wallpaper. Hang on.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  That's weird.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  She's my favorite video game character. Check it out. The boobs jiggle too. All right.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  What's wrong with humans? Um, why can't you just like?

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Look at me and ask the question, what's wrong with humans?

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  What's wrong with humans?

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, but go get someone that's not like you.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  Do I really have that option?

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  Yes, lose weight. And yes, I mean, there are desperate people out there.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess. If I ever get there, I guess I'll be, I'll be one of those people.

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• 1:09:36Speaker 02

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• 1:09:36Speaker 01

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• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  The limit at the time was five.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

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• 1:09:43Speaker 02

  Oh, it was?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

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• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:09:48Speaker 01

  With a minimum monthly payment of $218. Interest, fees, you're probably late, and purchasing. Me, 16 years to pay off, you won't be alive. Well, keep losing weight. And actually, I, I am encouraging that.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  I can make it 17 years.

• 1:10:02Speaker 01

  Not that we want pedos to live longer, but the thing is for you.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  Like I said, Thanos snap. If it takes me two, as long as it takes them, I don't give a shit. Fuck them.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Do you care about your life?

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I live my life. You kidding me?

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  You want to live?

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. I lost 180 pounds because I want to live.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  So again, the mom thing, I gotta get back to that. Like, I need you to live independently. Like, I almost don't want to do this unless one of our goals is you just actually learning life skills, learn, live independently as someone. Cause we gotta get you. Cause what happens when your mom dies?

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  She's old, she's out there. I saw her.

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  What do you, what do you want me?

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  Is she?

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  What do you think I'm on the show for?

• 1:10:38Speaker 01

  How old is she?

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  She's 76.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  Okay, and she didn't look necessarily the healthiest?

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  Does she not? Um, well, she got stung by bees recently. She got stung by bees.

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  Okay, nevermind. She's okay. Okay, but even, even still 76, you know?

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  Um, she's a, she's a tomboy. She's a fighter. I love my mom.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  Okay, well, that's good. She's still 76. And I wanted to live a long life, but what do you and your brother do when she?

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  Exactly. That's why I'm here, Caleb.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Okay, so it is independent.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  The whole point is get independent, but like.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  Okay, there you go. Then I'm down for that.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  The current goal is get her out of there.

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  Cur.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  I am not gonna do that.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  That's not the point. The thing is, it's like, yes, but, but you have to take care of your life or else you'll never be independent.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  So we need to focus on you.

• 1:11:18Speaker 02

  All right. The, the, the point, um, the point of coming here is I want to.

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  Z Y G O.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  Cygor.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  Guides.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  Cygor guides.

• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  What's that? For 10 bucks?

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  World of Warcraft.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  Spending on, okay, you're spending, okay, we're spending.

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  It's an add-on for World of Warcraft.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  Right, of which you're not paying your payment on time, but you did that. And then Disney Plus, why even Disney Plus? So you can watch all young kid shows.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  No, I wanted to watch Darth Maul. If I could watch it somewhere else, I'd watch it somewhere else, my man. But they got like 5 billion streaming services. You want to watch it?

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  Path of, Path of, oh, exile, fuck. $90? What did you get?

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  Only 90, huh? Did they not tell you?

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  No, I don't, I know nothing.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Tell me something, I don't know.

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  $16,000 on Path of Exile.

• 1:12:08Speaker 01

  Okay, what do you even get? I don't even, I don't know that game. I know it exists, but.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  I get to change my fireball to look like a dragon.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  I get to make my cursor a different color.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  Sixteen thousand dollars?

• 1:12:20Speaker 02

  Sixteen thousand dollars. This is a five hundred dollar hoodie.

• 1:12:24Speaker 01

  What the are we doing?

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  You have been staring it in the face.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  I like video games. I don't, I don't really.

• 1:12:30Speaker 02

  You just get cosmetics. You get cool looking armor. You get to make your character look cool. They can have wings and stuff.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  How, but how have you possibly spent sixteen thousand hours?

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  It was twelve years.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  You spent three thousand hours this year alone. That's ten percent of your money.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Shit, you're never.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  Because I know where my money's going when I pay it.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Mozilla, Mozilla Corp, something, whatever game Mozilla has.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  Probably the like, um, what is it? The VPN? It's probably the Mozilla VPN.

• 1:12:58Speaker 01

  And then ten dollars there. Yeah. Late fee and then interest and cash advance interest. What the? You cash advance at some point.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  What's the cash is?

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  This is insane. At some point you did something that qualified for a cash advance. I can't see it, but that's.

• 1:13:10Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  The balance there is one forty two for that.

• 1:13:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  I think, wait, or.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  I genuinely have no idea what a cash advance is.

• 1:13:16Speaker 01

  You've been late every month this year so far.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  Every month.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Why? You do make money and you shouldn't. You don't have any overhead.

• 1:13:23Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:13:24Speaker 01

  So how are you possibly late? There's no reason to be.

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  I'm hungry.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Even more pathetic. That doesn't make sense. What do you mean?

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  I did DoorDash. I get a lot of DoorDash.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Good, but you make money. Why can't you just make a payment on time? It's two eighteen. It's expensive for your income, but you have literally no overhead. You don't even have a car.

• 1:13:40Speaker 02

  I'm not.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  You sometimes do gas and you bragged about it.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  I'm not great at making myself make payments and then I just forget.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  Turn on auto pay then. If you don't have the self-control, then do that.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  Well, when you have auto pay on and there's not enough money in the account, then it just doesn't do it.

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  Sometimes my balance is just not there.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  Oh shit, debt to friends.

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, we haven't even got into that.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Well, that's what I'm bringing up so we can get into.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Again, there's a big purchase that'll come up. And that, yeah, my buddy. Bleep. And, um.

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  Seventeen hundred. Why?

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  Uh, well, he's got the money to loan, so I ask him sometimes.

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, but why were you getting it? What's it for?

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  A chair.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  Dude, like he gave me chair bullshit.

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  Lazy boy.

• 1:14:23Speaker 01

  What the, of course, you fucking fat.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  It was a twenty five hundred dollar chair. Big old mother. It's got the recliner. It's got the cup holder. It's got the phone charger.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  For what? That's not even at your computer.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  It's right in front of my computer.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got it there. The desk's right here. Pedals under the desk. I'm a fucking baby in a crib.

• 1:14:42Speaker 01

  That doesn't really get you to this healthier lifestyle.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, nah, not really. The pedals under the desk do.

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  What does that do?

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  I just pedal them. I get some circulation in my legs. It was a personal trainer recommendation. He was like, if you're not getting on the bike, you need to have some.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Why would this person lend you that money?

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  Just because he really likes. I draw.

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  What? Your world is so fucked up.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  It is a fucked up world.

• 1:15:05Speaker 01

  Are you making minimum payments to him?

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  Uh, to him?

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:15:08Speaker 01

  What's the expectation to pay this back?

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  I draw him.

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  He's got a character. He's got a friend who's got another character. He wants me to draw him.

• 1:15:17Speaker 01

  And more.

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  I, I mean, I do with him. I kind of pay it back with him. Yeah.

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  Kinda. What do you mean kinda?

• 1:15:22Speaker 02

  As in, I'm not like giving the money, but like I draw the pictures.

• 1:15:26Speaker 01

  What about?

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  Oh, him. Oh, boy.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  You owe a thousand.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um.

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  Internet friends is.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  He's, okay, so he's a tech support guy and my computer breaks down sometimes. He sends me some money for it and stuff like that. Um, and he helped with getting here, so.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  To Austin?

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, from California. It was like seventeen hundred dollars for the flight.

• 1:15:48Speaker 01

  What the? Is that normal?

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Well, it was for two people. It was for.

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  You decided to come here on Sunday and leave on Wednesday and he brought his mom. That's why.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  Oh, four day little vacation for you and mother.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  Why did you check out? That might be a place to move.

• 1:16:04Speaker 01

  No, we don't want you. Please, no, please.

• 1:16:05Speaker 02

  I don't want to be here either. This place sucks.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  Thank you. Yes, it sucks so bad. Oh my goodness. Yes.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's awful. Oh my God, never want to be here.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  It's an active town.

• 1:16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I don't like active.

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Okay. We can agree on that. I don't need to be here.

• 1:16:17Speaker 01

  Good. Glad you figured it out. So how are you paying this guy for your computer parts and bullshit?

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  Um, also.

• 1:16:26Speaker 02

  The, the character I'm trying to bring up.

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  So how much you own now, now that you came here?

• 1:16:31Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Better give him the reimbursement money.

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah. That's, that's, he's who's getting it.

• 1:16:36Speaker 01

  Stupid.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  That's the one where I'm actually.

• 1:16:38Speaker 01

  We're filming Tuesday and he got here on Sunday and he's leaving on Wednesday. What the is wrong with you?

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  I just wanted to hang out a little bit. Come on.

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:16:45Speaker 02

  I wanted to see if it's a nice place.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  It is. It's not for you.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  We're in a pretty shitty place where the hotel we picked.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  Where are you?

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Um, what is it called? Uh, Town River, uh, Holiday Inn Town River or something like that? Town, Town Lake? I think it's Town Lake. It's, uh, it's right next to Sixth Street. We were told that was a like nightlife party full of drugies and shit.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Of course, that's gonna be a little diff, it's gonna be a bit more wild.

• 1:17:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 1:17:10Speaker 01

  What is it? Holiday Inn?

• 1:17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, Holiday Inn Town Lake, I think it's called. And there's, um, there's a.

• 1:17:16Speaker 01

  Oh, it's okay. You're near Rainy Street. Rainy Street is super nice, but it is right off of I thirty five.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, is I thirty five bad?

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  It's a highway. Why would you want to be on a highway?

• 1:17:25Speaker 02

  Well, we used to live next to a train. I was fine with a train.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  That's, the train's different, but okay, PayPal.

• 1:17:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  So this is your checking.

• 1:17:32Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, thirty four in there. Nothing.

• 1:17:38Speaker 02

  And our, in our, front of our hotel, there's like.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  You are to be able to, like, allowed to take a vacation when you have no money.

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  It's not really a vacation. It's one extra day.

• 1:17:46Speaker 01

  Objectively, if you, no, no, a couple of extra days. People fly in and out the same day of the show.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  Oh, we, we flew in a day before because I knew I wasn't gonna be able to.

• 1:17:53Speaker 01

  Two days before.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  Was it two days before?

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Sunday is two days before Tuesday.

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  We flew out the twenty second. Isn't today the twenty third?

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Ah, I guess you came Monday. Maybe we misunderstood.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like, it was like two AM on the, we flew out on the twenty second.

• 1:18:08Speaker 01

  Okay, uh, so beginning balance one nineteen. Yeah, a good amount of money comes in, but then it all goes out and you added what's even less at thirty four.

• 1:18:16Speaker 02

  Did I say the twenty first when I said?

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  I don't know. It doesn't matter. Okay?

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  I'm, okay, sorry.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  You're talking to me.

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  All right, I'm talking to you.

• 1:18:23Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah, I mean, you, yeah, so much money goes out. So many fees too. This is crazy.

• 1:18:30Speaker 02

  There was a point my interest was like six hundred a month.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Well, it's just your PayPal account, not even.

• 1:18:36Speaker 01

  Steam games? Amazon, pull up your Amazon.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  Oh, boy.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  Stamp subscription. Why are you paying stamps.com to mail your?

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  I don't know how to cancel stamps.com.

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  Call.

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  I literally called. I called a scam center and gave them my account on accident.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  Block it from your checking account.

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  I don't know how to do that.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  He immediately, for pizza, DoorDash forty dollars of it, fat. Valve, again, Steam, Valve.

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Bunch of Steam, bunch of Steam.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  Dino Labs, ten dollars. DoorDash another forty two dollars down his throat.

• 1:19:06Speaker 02

  Amazon.

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Surprise you're out working this. Dude, my concern part is, I'm glad you've learned, lost weight from like, well, how much did you weigh?

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  Uh, nearly six hundred.

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I thought. So six hundred pounds. I'm glad you've lost weight. You're in your fives.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Four, like four fifty. But the thing is, at some point, if you continue this diet, you will reach that equilibrium where the amount of working out you're doing is gonna meet that calorie threshold where you can't. Like you're not actually doing it and you're still gonna be like morbidly, morbidly obese.

• 1:19:35Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  Cause you're, this is insane amount of food that you're consuming.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  I am staying under the calorie deficit.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Okay, your calorie deficit is crazy though.

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  Which is twenty five hundred, yes.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  You're under twenty five hundred?

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  Twenty five hundred is my daily goal, yeah.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  I would be so shocked with these DoorDash orders. Okay, uh, some square purch, yeah, you purchased something. DHL Express, you got something delivered to you. Amazon, more Valve.

• 1:20:00Speaker 02

  I think DHL.

• 1:20:01Speaker 01

  DoorDash, Dash Pass, DoorDash, Little Caesar's, fifty dollars of Little Caesar's. And he's under his twenty five hundred calorie a day?

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  Well, I was feeding my family.

• 1:20:09Speaker 01

  But even fifty dollars for three people, you're not under twenty five hundred calories.

• 1:20:13Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:20:13Speaker 01

  Fifty dollars of Little Caesar's is still a shit ton of food.

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  One Little Caesar's pizza is twenty one hundred calories. That's just my day. I just have a pizza all through the day and we're all good.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  But even still, you got more than like three pizzas.

• 1:20:28Speaker 02

  I got more than the fridge and I can, I got a mini fridge in my room, which I also bought.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  I cannot get anything on this phone. It's telling me you and if I guess.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  Suck at everything.

• 1:20:42Speaker 02

  You want to try it? You want to take the phone? You want to do it? You're probably better with.

• 1:20:45Speaker 01

  I told you actually addicted to AI. What the is that?

• 1:20:48Speaker 02

  I got an AI, uh, generator on my computer and I was training it to do stuff that looks like my artwork.

• 1:20:54Speaker 01

  Kids, he's generating kid.

• 1:20:56Speaker 02

  It's not looks like, put kids, you fucking weirdo.

• 1:21:00Speaker 01

  We saw them.

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  I say think of kids and I'm the weirdo.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  You said your art. We saw your art, your art as kids.

• 1:21:05Speaker 02

  My art is not all petite. It just has petite in it.

• 1:21:09Speaker 01

  So tell me, why? What is this addiction? Yeah, I'm the weird one here.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  So I'm sitting there and I'm, I'm training the AI to look like my art and I'm sitting there and I'm making a whole bunch of different pictures and then all of a sudden I'm just like, oh, can I just tell it to make something that's like, I don't know, a cheerleader or some shit like that? I make a cheerleader. I'm like, oh, that's hot. So and then, then I'm sitting there just making shit loads more shit. I'm in, I'm into big boobs on cheerleaders, okay?

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  Boobs on cheerleaders on.

• 1:21:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I don't like the girls. I don't know them. I don't know their personalities. I can make up a personality for the AI one.

• 1:21:42Speaker 01

  Make it up for the person and the.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  But they make it pretty obvious with their little stupid personality and their snooty attitudes and shit. I hate them.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  Dude, you got issues, man.

• 1:21:53Speaker 02

  I don't like the adult industry.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  Have. But you're a part of it in a different way.

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, but mine's all fictional. I don't like sex work. I don't like OnlyFans and shit like that.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Adults consenting?

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  If it's putting yourself out there sexually and you know damn well that there's like thirteen year olds jacking off to you? No, I'm not into that.

• 1:22:09Speaker 01

  Well, hold on. I needed something to jack off to at thirteen.

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  Does that make it right that you were jacking off to an adult?

• 1:22:16Speaker 01

  Uh, pubescent guys are going to jack off.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:22:20Speaker 01

  And I would rather the people making be adults. So yes, I think it's okay. You're the one addicted to AI. Does your mom even know?

• 1:22:28Speaker 02

  Shit, she doesn't know I make AI. She's gonna know after this episode. Sorry, mom.

• 1:22:32Speaker 01

  And, uh, make him leave, no, you're, I'm, I'm sorry. You're seventy six empathetic. I'm just gonna tell you that right now. Not to your face, because I'm a coward. But you need to kick him and his brother out. This is like, you've actually, this, you've been a horrible parent by allowing them to stay with you and not get jobs and develop any life skills because they're not gonna be able to survive without you.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  My brother's an exception.

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  She doesn't kick me out because I, I pull my own weight. She doesn't kick my brother out because he's very disabled.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  Well, very?

• 1:23:01Speaker 02

  Very disabled.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  What's disabled?

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  He's autistic. Like low functioning. He can't live on his own.

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  Maybe, I don't know. There's, there's low functioning, the, whatever. Warner Bros, HBO Max, of course. Okay, Spotify.

• 1:23:13Speaker 02

  I cannot, for the life of me, if you want to take this and try.

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  Patreon, you're paying for other people's Patreons when you don't even have money.

• 1:23:20Speaker 02

  I have my own Patreon.

• 1:23:21Speaker 01

  Thirty dollars.

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  Suno, yeah, I make music as a hobby.

• 1:23:25Speaker 01

  You make music too?

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:23:26Speaker 01

  Oh, you're a DJ?

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  I sing.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  You're a singer. Sing me a song. Sing me Ave Maria right now.

• 1:23:31Speaker 03

  We've been trying to reach you concerning.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  Your car's extended warranty. Not good.

• 1:23:36Speaker 02

  Not my usual.

• 1:23:37Speaker 01

  Twenty six dollars you are not. I know for the fat of for a fact, the calorie amount of a bit of a of a plate, most plates from Panda Express, you are not under your twenty five hundred calories. You are gonna meet your thing because yes, I bet if you cut from four thousand calories a day, you six hundred pounds will lose weight, but you are gonna meet that level at some point where you can't anymore. That's your current diet and workout.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  Well, it does need to be read.

• 1:24:00Speaker 01

  Valve, exactly. Three logic system, gaming bullshit, whatever.

• 1:24:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

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• 1:24:43Speaker 01

  It is absolutely delicious. It's an incredible flavor. Check it out. Like, we went through so many flavors and this is, we love it. Um, open wallet transaction, withdraw two hundred forty five, Taco Bell, and you're under the two thousand five hundred. Yeah, uh huh. DoorDash, twenty bucks.

• 1:25:01Speaker 02

  What's wrong?

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  Zigor Guides.

• 1:25:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, Zigor. That's the World of Warcraft add-on we talked about earlier.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Okay, that you're doing on PayPal Credit and on regular PayPal. Another DoorDash, thirty four dollars. Disney Plus, Amazon, Amazon, Exola, Mozilla, DoorDash, thirty three dollars, Netflix, Amazon, Best Buy, Amazon. DoorDash again, forty seven dollars, buddies, under twenty five hundred calories. X Corp Paid Features, forty dollars, KFC, Dino Labs, another ten dollars, thousand seven hundred, thousand one hundred seventy nine with the somewhere. Some Best Buy there, one hundred thirty two dollars, Olive Garden, Sunco. Uh, beverages and more, sixty one dollars. Little Caesar's, thirty dollars. You got premium, Epic Games, thirty six dollars and nine cents. OpenAI, you're paying for GPT for what? You don't do anything. You're not productive. What do you need?

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  Yes, you do. OpenAI, twenty bucks.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  When was that?

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  Last month.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  Last month?

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  Last month.

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  OpenAI.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:25:57Speaker 02

  Well, that wasn't a payment that was supposed to go through.

• 1:25:59Speaker 01

  Raspberry Apple, by the way, if you wanted to know the flavor. It's incredible. Check it out.

• 1:26:02Speaker 02

  No, I'm not supposed to be doing that.

• 1:26:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're not supposed to be doing any of this.

• 1:26:06Speaker 02

  I gotta shut that down.

• 1:26:06Speaker 01

  Taco Bell, DoorDash, twenty bucks there. Epic Games, thirty six ninety nine. Epic Games, two dollars. Epic Games, nine dollars. Fur. Fur affinity?

• 1:26:16Speaker 02

  For affinity, yeah, that's the website I I post my art on.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  Uh, five dollars, don't go there, you'll become, your computer will be tracked. Going against the bullshit. Epic Games, ninety dollars.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Patreon, twelve bucks.

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  They added Pomni to Fortnite.

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  Shut the fuck up!

• 1:26:31Speaker 02

  They added Pomni to Fortnite.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  General open wallet transaction. I don't even know, ten bucks. Wait. Oh, there's another credit card. Do you have Wells Fargo? Home furnishing, you finance the furniture bullshit?

• 1:26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:44Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  The Lazy Boy Chair.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  What? I thought you did that through your friend.

• 1:26:48Speaker 02

  He only did the down payment.

• 1:26:49Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  It's twenty five hundred dollars.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Oh, you creature. The balance actually went up somehow. One thousand four hundred seven dollars and seventy one cents. Why? Oh, because you were late, late fee.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  Uh, like seven late fees.

• 1:27:04Speaker 02

  It went up a bit.

• 1:27:07Speaker 02

  I'm just not good at making the payments, man. I gotta get better at that. That's what I'm here for.

• 1:27:11Speaker 01

  This is so pathetic.

• 1:27:15Speaker 01

  You just have to follow, dude. You should be the easiest budget in the world. You don't do anything. You don't even people.

• 1:27:21Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  Like, where's your time and energy? It should just, it should be so easy budgeting and down the wise and anywhere. Doesn't even matter anymore. Past due, okay, one ninety four, seventy six is your normal minimum. This is so stupid. Fees being charged at crazy interest will be soon. I'm sure there's deferred interest, not even worth looking at. Crazy.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  What's deferred interest?

• 1:27:42Speaker 01

  You refuse to grow up. I don't even know.

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  This is stupid. You can't even get laid, everyone. You can't get laid.

• 1:27:53Speaker 02

  I could if I wanted to, trust me.

• 1:27:55Speaker 01

  Oh, you could.

• 1:27:55Speaker 02

  I could.

• 1:27:56Speaker 01

  There you go, so.

• 1:27:56Speaker 02

  I had a naked girl on my bed, of course I can.

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, she may have had AIDS, so that's different.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a little different, yeah.

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Well, never mind.

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  Well, if I wanted AIDS, I could get easily.

• 1:28:05Speaker 01

  Get.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  Listen, okay, that's different. I thought you were more incel. If you don't want to have sex and you're not having sex, like, fine, that's your choice. I don't care.

• 1:28:14Speaker 02

  I'm scared.

• 1:28:15Speaker 01

  I thought you couldn't have. Oh, well, then you are weird again.

• 1:28:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, like I said, eleven years old, learned about STDs and shit like that. It fucked me up. I'm trying to get over the fear.

• 1:28:23Speaker 01

  That is making, you need therapy. Do you want to die a virgin?

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Would you care?

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  I want kids.

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  Case, oh, is something you'll never hear in your life.

• 1:28:35Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:28:36Speaker 01

  Another HBO, you're putting HBO Max on here to this credit card. So this is, this is Wells Fargo checking account. You're putting HBO on multiple, dude, you have recurring, you have, uh, Disney Plus on PayPal Credit and PayPal. And now you have HBO on PayPal and Wells Fargo.

• 1:28:52Speaker 02

  If there's balance in the PayPal, it uses the PayPal. If there's not, it uses PayPal Credit. It's like automated.

• 1:28:57Speaker 01

  Still, same month, it got charged both and you're No, no, no, it doesn't even matter because Wells Fargo and PayPal both had HBO Max.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  But, wait.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  Yes! Yeah, dude, you know nothing.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  Wells Fargo had HBO Max.

• 1:29:09Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 1:29:10Speaker 02

  Wells Fargo's my chair. What do you mean?

• 1:29:12Speaker 01

  Uh, I went through, uh, actually, I guess PayPal is pulled through there, so for what it's worth. Oh, home furnishing, yes, there's their, and home furnishing, home furnishing, yeah.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  That is not supposed to.

• 1:29:21Speaker 01

  But their items returned unpaid. Those Dino Blade, Steam Games, Dino Blaze, whatever. Steam Games, Adobe, HBO Max, Steam Games, Dino Blastic, whatever bullshit. Steam Games and Adobe. Crazy. Overdrafting like crazy. No one's surprised because you're crazy.

• 1:29:37Speaker 02

  I don't remember what Dino Labs.

• 1:29:38Speaker 01

  Credit score, living at home, no overhead, five fifty three, pathetic.

• 1:29:41Speaker 02

  I have a five fifty three. Is that like bad?

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  WF BNA card.

• 1:29:46Speaker 02

  WF BNA, Wells Fargo, uh, uh, the home furnishing, that's.

• 1:29:51Speaker 01

  That's that, okay. Yeah, it needs attention. Uh, we have a, uh, and then that's the first credit card we looked at. So did you go to college?

• 1:30:01Speaker 02

  I tried to.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  Anything, you tried to, what's try to?

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  I went to an animation class and they didn't teach us shit.

• 1:30:08Speaker 01

  Wow, you'll never be productive in your life.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  I wanted to learn ZBrush.

• 1:30:11Speaker 01

  You'll never be productive.

• 1:30:12Speaker 02

  Shut the fuck up. You'll never be productive. Yeah, I can learn like Blender and shit.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, get into the most likely to be AI replaced.

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• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  This job, that's smart.

• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  Then I'll learn AI. Huh? I'll learn AI.

• 1:30:55Speaker 02

  I'm already training my own.

• 1:30:56Speaker 01

  Two thousand eighteen CA burned almost entirely to the ground. Our good friend Gavin Newsom did absolutely nothing. Wapping six choices for DoorDash. Okay.

• 1:31:05Speaker 02

  It was two choices.

• 1:31:06Speaker 01

  Like a life story.

• 1:31:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  You don't have any mortgage or 401K, counselor. Well, we know you're a loser.

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  You're a deadbeat.

• 1:31:14Speaker 02

  What do I have a mortgage for?

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  Exactly. You've never been productive in your life. You would never. Okay, so your income is, I guess, three thousand hours a month, and I guess you don't have to decide for taxes because you're a dependent and weird and we're enabling you. You probably get money back. It just goes to your mom.

• 1:31:31Speaker 01

  Our debt situation is

• 1:31:35Speaker 01

  your minimums to payments and I guess you're making your minimums to your friends with.

• 1:31:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're paying for a service.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  But your minimums to payments are four hundred twelve dollars and seventy six cents. So you get your own groceries, good, three hundred dollars, there you go, you're fine, meal plan, meal prep. We base it off of that. That's three meals a day plus snacks, plus drinks, plus dessert. I know you love that. Phone bill, how much?

• 1:31:59Speaker 02

  Phone bill?

• 1:32:00Speaker 01

  Mom takes care of it?

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  Mom takes care of it. It's a hundred and fifty a month, by the way.

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, but she takes care of it. Gas room from drive drive, how much do you contribute?

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  About three hundred and fifty a month.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  What? I thought you Why is this? Okay, car insurance.

• 1:32:12Speaker 02

  California.

• 1:32:13Speaker 01

  She pays for it.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  She pays car insurance, yeah.

• 1:32:15Speaker 01

  Okay, rent, mortgage, utilities, she does it all.

• 1:32:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:19Speaker 01

  TP fund. Anything else you need for your life, I'll give you one fifty. Uh, therapy, you probably do need, you probably can get on like Medi-Cal and bullshit with your.

• 1:32:27Speaker 02

  I can't, I've tried.

• 1:32:30Speaker 01

  Because you're a dependent?

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  I got rheumatoid arthritis and all that shit, but they just keep telling me like, oh no, you're completely capable of doing everything.

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  You are capable, good. I'm glad that California at least says that. I'm actually surprised, but you also are a dependent, so I don't know if you could go independently, get on different services, so.

• 1:32:44Speaker 02

  I don't think I can.

• 1:32:45Speaker 01

  See what you can do. I will do another two hundred dollars. Let's do some therapy.

• 1:32:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  And I think you can do that. Do you have health insurance?

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:32:53Speaker 01

  At thirty seven, at your

• 1:32:55Speaker 02

  Thirty seven.

• 1:32:55Speaker 01

  Wait, okay, get on.

• 1:32:57Speaker 02

  Because I couldn't get on Medi-Cal.

• 1:32:58Speaker 01

  Get on some subsidized health insurance, Affordable Care Act. It's a little more expensive now, but whatever. I'll do four hundred dollars. Let's just try four hundred dollars. It's all expensive because you're a fat.

• 1:33:07Speaker 02

  Well, Kaiser Permanente is the only choice and that is four hundred a month.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  There we go, we did it. There you go.

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Right on the dot.

• 1:33:12Speaker 01

  Good. Uh, you have any pets?

• 1:33:15Speaker 02

  I do, but mom.

• 1:33:17Speaker 01

  Subscriptions, I'll try to give you fifty bucks. Okay, there's nothing else that needs to be in this budget because you have nothing.

• 1:33:24Speaker 02

  How much fun money I get?

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  How much fun money I get?

• 1:33:27Speaker 01

  Let's see if there's wiggle room. There is, I'll give you two hundred fifty for fun.

• 1:33:32Speaker 02

  Okay. Sweet.

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  You have a thousand two hundred dollars left on a monthly basis.

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  Okay, and that's savings. Oh, payoff debt, payoff debt, right?

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  If you're done in five months, get an emergency fund, move out, but you gotta work on. You need to go get a job like McDonald's and start building up experience. That's the reality. You're gonna be lifting shit at manufacturing. You're gonna be you're gonna be taking bottom entry level bullshit jobs because your resume is nothing. Not bullshit jobs, which is entry level shit. You're gonna be building up your resume. You need to go you're not gonna do any of that, so I am practically just gonna end because what the else is there to say?

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  I could get a job at Starbucks.

• 1:34:09Speaker 01

  Okay, well, get a job at Starbucks. There you go. Get a job at Starbucks.

• 1:34:12Speaker 02

  That was true, indeed.

• 1:34:13Speaker 01

  And you're, you're trans like everyone else there, so it's perfect.

• 1:34:17Speaker 02

  I could say I am. They did get me the job, probably.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  You certainly were, which is

• 1:34:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've got the experience. Yeah, I can, I can fake it till I make it.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  Okay. Good luck, buddy. I have zero hope here more than almost any episode, ever. This is pathetic and sad and disgusting. You're afraid of blowjobs. What is wrong with you? Guys, Hammer, the Hammer, shut the, the, we're gonna get the Hammer Financial Score. Make sure to join us in the post show in a little bit. There's a big stalking situation that we didn't get into that's crazy.

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:46Speaker 01

  And a lot of other really crazy e-bagging that he's doing. You'll see. Well, that's in the post show. But Hammer Financial Score, spending their budget dramatically over spent, zero out of ten, debt. That friend does. I'll give you a one out of ten because at least there's no collections. It's about to be though because you're not paying on time. But emergency fund, nothing zero out of ten, retirement, nothing, real estate. Okay, Hammer Financial Score, point five out of ten. Get yours at CalebHammer dot com. Now click join to get three premium shows every single day, six days a week, including an extra twenty minutes of this episode called The Financial Auto Post Show. You can join on YouTube or you can join on the Hammer Elite app or HammerElite dot com, wherever you want to be. Membership's the same on all services. It's the best one there is. See you there. So I'm being told instead of going and getting a job, like, we're trying to push you to.

• 1:35:28Speaker 03

  And he's a VTuber.

• 1:35:30Speaker 01

  Oh, a VTuber too. So now you're a VTuber and you're making a video. What video game are you making?

• 1:35:36Speaker 02

  It's a horror RPG.

• 1:35:37Speaker 01

  How far along?

• 1:35:40Speaker 02

  Um, you can walk around in a house.

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