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0:59 Caleb Hammer? To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. You are not able to define what is going on in this relationship very well at all.
1:06 Speaker 03 Because last time we had a big fight was a couple of weeks ago when she started talking to another man.
1:12 Speaker 04 It was an old friend from high school.
1:15 Speaker 03 You didn't make it sound like a friend.
1:17 Speaker 04 He can check my phone because I know he has his doubts.
1:21 Speaker 03 But it did happen a couple of years ago. It's the same guy.
1:27 Speaker 03 She sent him [BLEEP] in 2023.
1:31 Speaker 03 She told me she's only talked to him on Discord, but that's just the voice. She still talks to him on Snapchat.
1:36 Caleb Hammer? Whoa, okay.
1:39 Speaker 04 And all of the messages are where you can see them.
1:42 Speaker 03 Because I made it that way.
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2:27 Speaker 04 My name's Luna. I'm 23.
2:29 Caleb Hammer? I'm Alphonse. I'm 29, from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
2:31 Speaker 04 And this is Financial Audit.
2:34 Caleb Hammer? Thanks for coming down to Austin, guys. What do we do in Tulsa, Oklahoma for a living? Let's start with you, Luna.
2:40 Speaker 04 I work in a fast food restaurant.
2:43 Caleb Hammer? Okay, you do have fast food restaurant vibes in you. Like, I don't know how to explain that, but it's like if I pull up to the McDonald's, you'd be the one white out of all the Mexicans?
2:52 Speaker 04 Not quite McDonald's.
2:53 Caleb Hammer? Okay, you don't want to say which one. And that's okay, right? It's drive-through based.
2:57 Speaker 04 Drive-through based.
2:58 Caleb Hammer? McDonald's is... Okay.
3:00 Speaker 04 Solely drive-through.
3:01 Caleb Hammer? Like drive-through stalls. Uh huh, gotcha. Okay, what do you do? What's your position there?
3:05 Speaker 04 I'm a chef manager.
3:06 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so maybe making some money.
3:09 Speaker 04 I tell people what to do.
3:10 Caleb Hammer? Hopefully that's a little more money. Oh, I see. We got a cute couple shirt. I didn't notice this is what we were in.
3:18 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, hopefully we're in love then. That'd be good. I don't want people on who aren't in love. So what do you make in this position?
3:24 Speaker 04 Right now I'm at 1525, but...
3:28 Caleb Hammer? Well, Tulsa, it's not one of the more expensive cities, so 1525 certainly stretches further than like 1525 in Austin or Dallas or Atlanta. So, okay, 1525, how many hours a week do you get in?
3:39 Speaker 04 35 to 40.
3:41 Caleb Hammer? Why's it 35 to 40? Why is it not 40? You're the schedule manager. Schedule yourself for 40.
3:45 Speaker 04 I have a manager above me that does the schedule and we're not supposed to have overtime technically. So she tries to schedule... She schedules 40 hours, but we have to take breaks. So if I don't take all of my breaks, I get closer to 40. If I take all my breaks, I get closer to 35.
4:03 Caleb Hammer? So what hits your account per pay cycle?
4:05 Speaker 04 I get paid every week.
4:06 Caleb Hammer? And what's that hit?
4:08 Speaker 04 It hits on Friday.
4:09 Caleb Hammer? 440 a week. Okay, thank you. 430 a week. 430 a week is actually kind of brutal. 1052 divided by 12. I'm gonna say that's $1,863 a month net average.
4:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:22 Caleb Hammer? Some weeks are, some months are longer, more weeks, some are shorter.
4:26 Speaker 03 Her health insurance is over expensive compared to other places. It's, she's getting screwed with health insurance.
4:33 Caleb Hammer? You guys not married?
4:34 Speaker 03 Not yet, no.
4:35 Caleb Hammer? Are you getting married? How long have you guys been together?
4:37 Speaker 03 I've been together five years. Uh, I proposed officially last year.
4:42 Caleb Hammer? We're engaged?
4:43 Speaker 03 Yes.
4:43 Caleb Hammer? When are you guys, congratulations. When are you guys getting married?
4:45 Speaker 03 We don't know yet. We're, we gotta figure out finances first.
4:49 Caleb Hammer? Well, I would say so, cause $1,863 ain't gonna make you very far. So, Mr. Alphonse, you better be making a shit ton. Please tell me, what do you do?
4:59 Speaker 03 Uh, I'm a line cook, part-time.
5:02 Caleb Hammer? You also look like that. You guys look like your jobs.
5:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:06 Caleb Hammer? I don't know how this is possible, but you look at your, well, that's good. What kind of line cook?
5:09 Speaker 03 Uh, I, I love.
5:11 Caleb Hammer? If you love cooking, what kind of cooking you doing?
5:13 Speaker 03 Uh, burgers.
5:14 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Um, is it like an Applebee's?
5:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, type. Yeah, it's Chili's.
5:20 Speaker 01 Hi, welcome to Chili's.
5:22 Caleb Hammer? Oh, well.
5:23 Speaker 03 Same thing. They're same, exact thing.
5:24 Caleb Hammer? Yeah. Hey, if you love cooking.
5:26 Speaker 03 I do.
5:26 Caleb Hammer? It's not the place I'd be, cause isn't it a lot of it like frozen? But that's okay. I respect you.
5:31 Speaker 03 Jeff Mike is used a lot. He's, he's our best chef.
5:33 Caleb Hammer? Used a lot.
5:33 Speaker 04 If we need more time away from each other and doing work, we do DoorDash.
5:37 Caleb Hammer? If you need more time away from each other.
5:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:39 Caleb Hammer? So we need more time away from each other than people that are engaged.
5:41 Speaker 04 Down.
5:42 Caleb Hammer? Maybe that's why we haven't gotten, cooled down. Are you guys fighting a lot?
5:45 Speaker 03 Uh, depends on the week, but yeah, there's some things that she yells at me about and I yell at her about and.
5:52 Caleb Hammer? Yell?
5:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:54 Caleb Hammer? That's not necessarily the greatest.
5:56 Speaker 04 Too bad, but it's not great.
5:58 Caleb Hammer? It's not too bad, but it's not too great. That meant absolutely nothing.
6:02 Speaker 03 So our finances is what's putting the strain on it the most.
6:05 Caleb Hammer? Well, I would say so. That's why you're here.
6:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:07 Caleb Hammer? Before you have to say that yourself. What do you make in this position?
6:11 Speaker 03 I make $15 an hour and I work three days a week because I am disabled.
6:20 Speaker 03 My broken knee. I have a chunk of my kneecap missing.
6:24 Caleb Hammer? Why are you working a standing up job?
6:26 Speaker 03 Cause it's the only thing I can get. Um, I used to work as a forklift technician and I lost that job because I needed knee surgery.
6:37 Caleb Hammer? But you already had it, right?
6:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, I did last year.
6:40 Caleb Hammer? Get a forklift job again.
6:43 Speaker 03 I actually went there yesterday or today.
6:45 Caleb Hammer? Well, same place, but Tulsa's not a micro dick town. I'm sure there's other places with forklifts.
6:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, the place I used to work at, uh, is one of the biggest forklift dealers in the United States, even the world. Uh, they offered me the best benefits and the best dollars per hour.
7:04 Speaker 04 For Tulsa.
7:04 Caleb Hammer? Well, three days a week. How many hours are you working though? What's your pay?
7:09 Speaker 03 I about $300 every two weeks.
7:15 Speaker 04 That's why there's DoorDash.
7:16 Speaker 03 That's why there's DoorDash.
7:17 Caleb Hammer? Then just do DoorDash dude, all the time.
7:20 Speaker 03 It would be great if.
7:22 Caleb Hammer? $300 every week.
7:23 Speaker 03 It'd be great if people would order more.
7:25 Caleb Hammer? Was it 300 every week or every other?
7:26 Speaker 03 Every other week.
7:27 Caleb Hammer? Fuck dick. Okay. So it was 600 bucks. What, what are we even doing? That's not even money.
7:30 Speaker 03 It's not money, but it's, it's, it's what I can do. I mean.
7:34 Caleb Hammer? It is what you can do, but you can also do customer service sitting down.
7:38 Speaker 04 It's better than when he was in his recovery and not working.
7:43 Speaker 03 Oh yeah. I was unemployed for six months.
7:45 Caleb Hammer? Well, yeah, but were you on any kind of disability?
7:47 Speaker 04 Nope.
7:48 Caleb Hammer? Why?
7:49 Speaker 03 They denied me because I can quote, quote, work.
7:52 Caleb Hammer? You know, you were recovering from your surgery?
7:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:54 Speaker 04 Yep.
7:55 Speaker 03 Because yeah, social security does not want to pay out.
7:58 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Well, they pay out a lot to a lot of people. So I don't know how you that up. I'll be honest, but either way, you're like the first person in the history of financial audit that ever get denied for any kind of benefit. To have for your entire life.
8:10 Speaker 03 I went to the VA yesterday and they also denied me.
8:12 Caleb Hammer? VA?
8:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:13 Caleb Hammer? You were in the military?
8:14 Speaker 03 I was.
8:14 Caleb Hammer? What'd you do?
8:15 Speaker 03 I was a helicopter mechanic.
8:16 Caleb Hammer? Okay. That's kind of cool.
8:18 Speaker 03 It was cool up until I was discharged.
8:20 Caleb Hammer? Why were you discharged?
8:22 Speaker 03 Uh, medical reasons.
8:23 Caleb Hammer? What? Medical reasons?
8:25 Speaker 03 Uh, bronchitis and because Obama was making cuts in the military, they used that to discharge me.
8:31 Caleb Hammer? Have cuts in the military? Have we ever had cuts in the military? What are you talking about?
8:35 Speaker 03 Obama made the most cuts in military and they were actually starting to.
8:38 Caleb Hammer? Are you sure budget cuts or they were just relocating where money is? I'm pretty sure we only ever increased military costs in this country.
8:44 Speaker 03 I'm mostly.
8:45 Caleb Hammer? I mean, I need to pack check myself, but that is so pretty much what we do.
8:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, no.
8:50 Caleb Hammer? Don't ask me.
8:51 Speaker 03 When Obama's office was about eight hundred million dollars for the military budget. And then when Trump took office, it tripled to like three trillion dollars for military budget.
9:01 Caleb Hammer? What are you talking about?
9:02 Speaker 03 So when.
9:03 Caleb Hammer? I don't have a three trillion dollar military budget.
9:06 Speaker 03 Pretty sure we do.
9:10 Caleb Hammer? I'm pretty sure it's like eight hundred billion and like for the first time ever, he proposed a trillion dollar one.
9:17 Speaker 03 Sometimes, yeah.
9:18 Caleb Hammer? It's litism.
9:19 Speaker 03 If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
9:20 Caleb Hammer? Also, the bronchitis, was that due to the military?
9:23 Speaker 03 Yeah. So when I was in Virginia for training, I ended up getting pneumonia and I pushed through it and it transformed into bronchitis.
9:37 Caleb Hammer? Okay. And the VA, well, what, what did you try to claim disability on with the VA the other day? This is the first time in the history.
9:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, I went there to use my GI bill because I'm going to school for cyber security and I went to.
9:52 Caleb Hammer? Well, thank goodness. You do have to do something. I'll get you a course career certification in cyber security. I'll do that.
9:56 Speaker 03 To online college, half time to get my cyber security degree. So I'm.
10:01 Caleb Hammer? Why are you half time? You're working nothing. Why are you only half time? I'm working full time. What are you doing?
10:05 Speaker 03 Between DoorDash, Chili's.
10:07 Caleb Hammer? You go to DoorDash.
10:08 Speaker 03 And.
10:10 Caleb Hammer? I would just stop the Chili's things. Do school.
10:12 Speaker 03 For my college.
10:12 Caleb Hammer? Do school. Really? When you're like five hours a week?
10:16 Speaker 03 Assistance. Yeah. You just have to work there for a minimum of 10 hours a week to qualify for their tuition assistance.
10:21 Caleb Hammer? Not bad. Go for work for Chili's guys.
10:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, no kidding. So when they told me that, I was like, hell, yeah, because my brother's in cyber security. He was in air force for seven years. He makes a hundred and fifteen thousand dollars a year working for Microsoft.
10:32 Caleb Hammer? That's what we need to a friend.
10:34 Speaker 03 So he told me, it's like, dude, if, if you can't work because you're need going to cyber security. So I was like, hell, yeah.
10:40 Caleb Hammer? Hell, yeah.
10:41 Speaker 03 Hell, yeah.
10:42 Caleb Hammer? Hell, yeah.
10:42 Speaker 03 So when Chili's told me they do a tuition. reimbursement, I decided to do that. And it's about for tuition is like a thousand dollars, twelve hundred dollars.
10:51 Caleb Hammer? Well, the reason you guys get at each other's throats though is because you're not paying rent. What the, how do you not pay rent? Don't you want a roof over your head? I think you want a roof over your head. You can't just not pay rent.
11:01 Speaker 03 I don't choose not to pay rent.
11:03 Caleb Hammer? Well, kind of, maybe, what's your rent?
11:05 Speaker 03 Eight hundred dollars.
11:05 Caleb Hammer? Then you choose not to pay rent because you guys bring in two thousand five hundred dollars with before DoorDash. So you're choosing not to pay rent.
11:12 Speaker 03 Twenty five hundred dollars.
11:13 Caleb Hammer? I don't care what it feels like, that's the number you're choosing not to pay rent. You, what are you talking about? Asshole, you are choosing not to pay rent.
11:21 Speaker 03 We have been able to pay rent up until this month.
11:23 Caleb Hammer? But why? That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
11:25 Speaker 04 He had to get his car registered and was six hundred dollars.
11:29 Caleb Hammer? You got your, your rent paid for three months.
11:31 Speaker 03 For the first three months.
11:32 Caleb Hammer? Oh, for the first, okay, well, there you go. So you have gotten support. It's not like you're just on the hook like we're just leaving you to dry and die. For what it's worth. And now you can't pay rent, even though, I mean, listen, eight hundred for your guys' income. It's not absolutely great percentage wise, but you could pay rent.
11:49 Speaker 03 So between our car payments, our car insurance.
11:53 Caleb Hammer? And?
11:55 Speaker 03 With all the utilities.
11:56 Caleb Hammer? And?
11:57 Speaker 03 And you can't, can't afford it.
11:59 Caleb Hammer? Specifically, and?
12:00 Speaker 03 Oh, we eat out a lot.
12:01 Caleb Hammer? Well, a thousand dollars actually last month. You, you can't pay eight hundred dollar rent. You, you think you need, you think, listen, maybe you are entitled to certain benefits, but let's just get away from the entitlement for a second.
12:14 Caleb Hammer? You don't need that to pay your rent. You're entitled to that for your rent. You don't need that. You're spending a thousand hours going out to eat and then not paying eight hundred dollar rent. You're choosing not to pay rent. You should get evicted. Honestly, I don't want anyone to get evicted. I don't want people to be on the street. But maybe you should be because you're spending a thousand hours going out to eat when you're not paying rent instead.
12:30 Speaker 03 The reason we eat out to eat is because we don't have an oven that works.
12:33 Speaker 04 And why do we not have an oven that works?
12:35 Caleb Hammer? You know Chef Mike works real well. You use it all day at work. Come on.
12:39 Speaker 03 You're not gonna do it at home.
12:41 Caleb Hammer? Yes, you can, absolutely. You can get that pre-prepared shit, absolutely one hundred percent.
12:45 Speaker 04 Our stove top works, just not the oven.
12:46 Caleb Hammer? Stove top works, then what the do we do? You don't just have to use oven. By the way, if you're cooking like really good fresh food anyway, stove top typically does it unless you're getting like, what are you, what are you doing?
12:57 Speaker 03 Induction stove. The induction stove. It's all electric.
13:03 Caleb Hammer? Like what the is that? What are we crying about? We love a good flame.
13:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, I would love a flame.
13:08 Caleb Hammer? But you don't.
13:10 Speaker 03 I don't.
13:11 Speaker 04 Nope.
13:12 Caleb Hammer? Cook it on the stove top. Boil your eggs on the stove top. Cook your steak on the stove top.
13:17 Speaker 03 Between working.
13:19 Speaker 04 Do you know how much groceries are?
13:21 Caleb Hammer? Yes.
13:22 Speaker 04 They're expensive.
13:24 Caleb Hammer? They're not as expensive as going out to eat.
13:27 Speaker 03 They're about the same.
13:28 Caleb Hammer? No, they're not. Not even close. We do the math. We check it once a quarter. You. You. You can do three hundred a person with meal prepping that is six hundred dollars a month that you guys could spend. You're doing a thousand going out to eat. And then you get groceries on top of that. So go yourself.
13:47 Caleb Hammer? But no, I don't think you guys did grocery shop. I don't even have grocery.
13:50 Speaker 03 No, we don't go grocery shopping.
13:53 Caleb Hammer? Then you can't tell me ours are expensive. It's a shame amount. You don't know what the you're talking about. And you haven't had an oven since you guys have moved in, which means you're not even working to even try to get an oven.
14:02 Speaker 04 Him and Facebook Marketplace.
14:06 Speaker 04 That's where we got our oven.
14:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, we got it for free off of Facebook. Because the motherboard doesn't work.
14:11 Caleb Hammer? You guys eat out every meal? That's actually crazy. You're literally crying about not being able to pay rent. Oh, victim me. But then you eat out every single meal? You, your priorities are whack. That is on you. And then it breaks down into arguments. What are the arguments? Go ahead. Take me through one. What goes on in this household? How our finances is communicated? What gets to this big, this big fight that you guys have to cool off?
14:30 Speaker 04 Usually he forgets about one of his bills and then he cries about it as soon as he finds out.
14:34 Caleb Hammer? Well, he seems to cry about everything that he's irresponsible about.
14:37 Speaker 03 I focus on all of the main bills. I, with my paychecks, I pay the rent, utility, gas, electric.
14:46 Caleb Hammer? Not, in fact, actually, I would suggest, but continue.
14:49 Speaker 03 All of the main bills is focused on, I pay all of that with my paychecks.
14:54 Caleb Hammer? Incorrect. Well, first of all, that's impossible. If you make six hundred dollars, you can't pay an eight hundred dollar rent.
14:58 Speaker 03 That's just, that's just silly.
14:59 Caleb Hammer? What are we talking about?
15:00 Speaker 03 Making another almost a. Eight hundred, a thousand dollars a month doing DoorDash.
15:03 Caleb Hammer? Okay, with the contractor taxes you need to set aside, by the way, and then gas and maintenance that are not included in that income.
15:11 Speaker 03 I include gas, but not the maintenance.
15:12 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, maintenance you probably should because you are putting wear and tear on your vehicle, not just tires.
15:18 Speaker 04 To get his oil changed by like a thousand miles?
15:23 Speaker 03 Because we can't afford it right now.
15:24 Caleb Hammer? Okay, every time you say that, I will ring up that you spent a thousand dollars going out to eat. That is a lie. An oil change, what's an oil change? Go for it. I haven't had one of those for a second.
15:33 Speaker 03 If I do my, if I do the oil change myself between the oil filter, the six quarts of oil.
15:40 Caleb Hammer? If it's just yourself, then what the, why are you not doing it? You're a handyman. Do it!
15:46 Speaker 03 I don't have, so I, when I do it myself, I go to my buddy's house because he's got the ramps to do it. But since we moved, he lives an hour and a half away.
15:54 Caleb Hammer? You just told Colton this morning when you guys got your, you haven't even paid a single month that was due, a single bill that was due last month. Utilities, rent, cards, everything, all while you're going out to eat? This is disgusting. This is disgusting. Unknown spending, an additional unknown spending. We don't know exactly what it is because it's that place that's hard to tell if it's bullshit or not. And now that you guys said you don't get groceries, I know it's bullshit. That's an extra $700 of bullshit. And plus other large purchases, $600. You spent minimum on bullshit, $2,200. $2,200 in one month while you're choosing not to pay utilities, rent, credit cards. You, you irresponsible. You say you work, so you take care of the bills. You didn't take care of the bills last
16:38 Caleb Hammer? month. We're in this month and you didn't even take care of last month. What are you talking about? Big man who shows up to pay the bills. No, you're not.
16:43 Speaker 03 It's this month that we haven't paid yet. Everything this month.
16:46 Caleb Hammer? Why? I have your spending. You guys are a joke. What's your thoughts on this? What's going on here, woman?
16:50 Speaker 04 I'm just wondering where the money is going, other than food.
16:54 Caleb Hammer? Why don't you know? Why don't you sit down and look? Why don't you guys communicate? Take the bills, put them on the table. Look!
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17:30 Caleb Hammer? Welcome into Dollar Wise. Look.
17:32 Speaker 04 I could ask him and he'll try and
17:34 Caleb Hammer? Is that what happens?
17:35 Speaker 04 Skirt past certain things.
17:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, so when we bring up finances, we argue about where the money's going. I tell her where my paycheck's going. She tells me where her paycheck's going and we disagree.
17:46 Speaker 04 But I have never been late on any of my personal bills because I know where my money is going.
17:52 Caleb Hammer? So it's just you skirting around where the money is going? It's you lying because she just said she knows where her money is going.
17:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, because it's going to fast food, just as like, just as much as mine is.
18:02 Caleb Hammer? What is the fight? I'm confused on the argument.
18:04 Speaker 04 I usually use my cash tips for our food.
18:07 Caleb Hammer? Well, so there's additional spending then outside of this.
18:10 Speaker 04 Uh, Amazon? Amazon? Steam games?
18:14 Speaker 03 What I meant, Amazon?
18:17 Speaker 04 You get more stuff off of Amazon than I do.
18:20 Speaker 03 No, we would buy the same on Amazon.
18:23 Speaker 04 Last time I bought something, it was gamer subs. So...
18:29 Speaker 03 The last time you bought, you've bought something for people other than yourself on your Amazon when we're struggling with bills?
18:37 Speaker 04 That was one thing and it was Christmas.
18:41 Speaker 03 It was more than just Christmas. Uh, when you have two friends that you bring up from your past, you buy them things just as much as you buy yourself things. And when it comes to, after you pay your bills, which is a lot of loans, you, once you pay those off, your money will go to food or your hair dye.
19:08 Speaker 04 I haven't bought hair dye in a year.
19:11 Speaker 03 It would go to fast food, just as much as mine goes fast food. Like, you're just as guilty of fast food as I am.
19:17 Speaker 04 I'm not saying I'm not.
19:18 Caleb Hammer? What are you saying? What gets to the fight?
19:20 Speaker 04 I'm saying the Steam, where the money, because even though
19:27 Speaker 04 his bank account used to be our shared account, but I took my card that I used for that account and opened my own account.
19:35 Caleb Hammer? What's the fight? I'm still confused. You say you guys blow up, fight, and have to spend time away from each other. You are not able to define what is going on in this relationship very well at all.
19:44 Speaker 03 Because, uh, last time we had a big fight was a couple of weeks ago when she, um, started talking to another man.
19:56 Speaker 03 And that's and that's when that's one of the recent fights we had another fight we had
20:03 Caleb Hammer? No, no, no, hold on. No, you are not gonna brush past that. What the
20:06 Speaker 04 It wasn't
20:07 Caleb Hammer? What the actual
20:09 Speaker 04 It was an old friend from high school. I told him
20:14 Caleb Hammer? You didn't make it sound like a friend.
20:17 Speaker 04 I have told him all conversation will be in discord so that he can see it. I have told him he can check my phone because I know he has his doubts about whether something's gonna happen or not. I've told him it won't.
20:35 Caleb Hammer? Told him it won't. It's weird that we're even having this conversation. It's like, nothing's gonna happen.
20:40 Speaker 03 But it did happen a couple of years ago. It's the same guy.
20:48 Speaker 03 She told me she's only talked to him on Discord, but that's just the voice. She still talks to him on Snapchat.
20:53 Caleb Hammer? Whoa, okay.
20:56 Speaker 04 And all of the messages are where you can see them.
20:59 Speaker 03 Because I made it that way.
21:00 Caleb Hammer? Oh, what the Yeah, in no way whatsoever would any guy or gal want this person in the picture of the relationship. Wait, you guys have been together five years?
21:13 Speaker 03 Yep, since 2020.
21:14 Caleb Hammer? Did she fuck him two years ago?
21:15 Speaker 03 Uh, she sent him nudes in 2023.
21:23 Speaker 03 Uh, so the reason she has her own bank account is because we separated for a few months after that.
21:30 Speaker 03 And so we ended up having our own separate finances.
21:33 Caleb Hammer? I don't think it was the finances that needed to separate after that.
21:37 Speaker 03 Well, because we, uh, we separated a couple of months. Like we wanna
21:42 Caleb Hammer? What the is wrong? Why'd you do this?
21:44 Speaker 04 I lowkey don't even remember.
21:46 Caleb Hammer? No, that is bullshit. Two years ago, sending dude your tits and puss and hole? And you don't remember? You still, you're just telling me you can't remember? Whole deflection and refusal to take accountability. Bullshit.
22:01 Speaker 03 I know why.
22:02 Caleb Hammer? How do you not remember? This is one of the defining moments of the relationship. And now you're talking to this dude again? And you're telling me you don't remember?
22:10 Speaker 04 Yesterday.
22:11 Caleb Hammer? Oh, shut the up. That is some of the dumbest bullshit excuses that anyone could ever say. What the is wrong with you? Why did you do this? And why are you talking to him again?
22:25 Caleb Hammer? Again! Lady, why? What the [bleep]? I blow the [bleep] up too! You suck with money, so you download a budgeting app. You start with the classic one, YNAB, but everyone just deletes it because it's way too complicated to use. So you go to EveryDollar, that's Dave Ramsey, the personal finance guy, right? Well, they're gonna force you to use it his way. That's not very personal finances. Rocket Money, they got a lot of commercials, but they're owned by Rocket Mortgage. Guess what they want to sell you in the end? Then there's the new guy on the block, Monarch. Hundreds of millions of dollars of private equity raising so far? I'm not insinuating Monarch will do this, but private equity doesn't have the best track record when it comes to private data. That's why I like Dollar Wise.
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23:55 Speaker 03 I tried to set boundaries with him. I told her that she can talk to him as long as...
23:59 Caleb Hammer? What?
24:00 Speaker 03 She told me... She wants me to trust her, and so I told her...
24:06 Caleb Hammer? Hold on. By the way, I have absolutely zero confidence based on what she is using for these excuses right now. Oh, she's pissed, I can see it. She didn't know this was gonna come up, did she? I can see it on her face. No, she did not. Oh, she's cooking. Okay.
24:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:21 Caleb Hammer? So, I mean, hey, maybe don't like cheat. I mean, being open school, that's fun. We'll have a good open here and there, except you weren't, is the thing. Um, I have zero confidence in the world right now. Zero confidence in the world with her. I can't remember what happened yesterday that he did not stick it in her.
24:37 Speaker 03 So, there was a physically impossible because he is currently in the Navy. And stationed, but.
24:44 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but how long was it happening?
24:46 Speaker 03 That, I don't know. All I know is when I found out and when I found out the messages, it was after the fact. I was in dive school.
24:53 Caleb Hammer? Oh, it's because you went through, you went through her phone?
24:56 Speaker 03 Yes.
24:56 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
24:57 Speaker 03 I found out going through her phone.
24:59 Caleb Hammer? You had a suspicion?
25:00 Speaker 03 I did. So, the whole thing was.
25:03 Caleb Hammer? Why are you a cheater?
25:06 Speaker 03 I would like to tell the story. Uh, when I read through the messages, it happened while I was in dive school. She was lonely because I was focusing on dive school and wanted, uh, something else, wanted the attention. So she got the attention from two different guys, sent them both the nudes to something and to get something because she offered too. They didn't ask, she offered.
25:34 Caleb Hammer? Are they even good?
25:35 Speaker 03 To me, they are.
25:36 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
25:37 Speaker 03 And apparently to them, they are because they saved it in Snapchat. That's how I found out because they saved it in the messages.
25:43 Caleb Hammer? Have you gone through and deleted those?
25:45 Speaker 03 It saved on their end. I can't, she can't, on her, she can't delete them because they haven't saved. So, I can, it's still saved to this day. And I told her, I asked her why she opened that door because she told, she asked me, why don't I trust her? And I said, because it happened with him.
26:04 Caleb Hammer? Is that your phone?
26:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:06 Caleb Hammer? Unlock your phone.
26:08 Speaker 03 She talks to him on Snapchat and they, all they do is send pictures. And I have it set where the picture is saved in the chat. And it's just, it's just pictures. There's no text. So, and.
26:19 Caleb Hammer? And you're okay with this?
26:20 Speaker 03 I told her that I don't want her texting him on Snapchat.
26:24 Caleb Hammer? Oh dude, he's a [BLEEP] boy, dude.
26:25 Speaker 03 He's a [BLEEP] boy.
26:27 Caleb Hammer? And you're allowing this? Look at this. He sent, blur the name, blur the name, please, chat. He sent a, okay, I'm sexy, kinda wanna [BLEEP] type of picture.
26:38 Caleb Hammer? And she sent a sexy, I want the fuck picture. Dude, you're getting cucked right now. Okay, why are you sending this to him? Huh? Why is this being sent?
26:47 Speaker 04 You can go look at all my other friends. I send the same pictures in streets.
26:51 Caleb Hammer? You guys sending back and forth. This is not weird.
26:53 Speaker 03 That is weird. I asked her why she does it. She says she doesn't know.
26:56 Caleb Hammer? What the? But they're said, they sent, they sent nudes back to each other. Sorry. They sent nudes back to each other. They're just sending devil horned photos of their faces back and forth.
27:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, she thinks it's funny.
27:10 Caleb Hammer? Funny?
27:11 Speaker 03 She thinks it's funny.
27:11 Caleb Hammer? Oh, that is such a cop out. That is such a cop out too. I get wet every time this happens. Don't fuck with me. Come on. You tell me you don't get any, you don't want anything from him.
27:22 Speaker 04 No.
27:22 Caleb Hammer? Bullshit.
27:23 Speaker 04 Maybe back then, yes, but as of right now, no.
27:28 Caleb Hammer? I don't believe you at all. You guys are just sending back and forth, back and forth.
27:31 Speaker 04 I do that with all my friends.
27:33 Speaker 03 She does that, um, she doesn't, the other friends, the other, other friends don't do the same thing as, so she talks to two people, her friend Cass that she used to fuck in high school.
27:42 Caleb Hammer? He's sending shirtless photos.
27:44 Speaker 04 That's from two years ago.
27:46 Speaker 03 That's about the point.
27:48 Caleb Hammer? It doesn't matter. He's sending shirtless photos two years ago. You know what was happening two years ago? You guys were dating.
27:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's most voice that shit I've seen. So there's
28:01 Caleb Hammer? And no offense, but I mean, you're kind of fat.
28:04 Speaker 03 I am.
28:04 Caleb Hammer? But me too. And she's texting this military hunk. You know? And she's sending like, you know, this.
28:14 Speaker 03 Yep.
28:15 Caleb Hammer? And stuff.
28:16 Speaker 03 That's why we had the biggest fight because I don't trust her.
28:19 Caleb Hammer? It's all men, men, man, man, man. She's sending, no, this doesn't happen. This does not happen with normal people. There's no women friends in there.
28:28 Speaker 04 There are.
28:29 Caleb Hammer? No, no, no. Do you stop yourself right now for a second? You stop yourself right now.
28:32 Speaker 03 There's three women.
28:33 Caleb Hammer? There's, there's, there's, there's, who's a man, there's, there's, there's, finally, there's a woman, then there's, are you daddy?
28:43 Speaker 03 I am daddy.
28:44 Speaker 01 What the fuck? Is this allowed? What the fuck? Is that allowed?
28:50 Speaker 03 Is, I know for a fact a woman. That is her best friend.
28:53 Caleb Hammer? Which ones have received nudes in here?
28:55 Speaker 03 Uh, it was, it was
28:58 Caleb Hammer? Believe? Who, who, who, this guy?
29:03 Speaker 03 No.
29:05 Caleb Hammer? The guy that you, okay.
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29:36 Caleb Hammer? So we already went through it. So you're still sending stuff to him. Who else got nudes?
29:41 Speaker 04 He had, oh, three years ago.
29:45 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Same time. So three years ago. So this happened before the two years ago too. Well, you guys have been together for five. Same guys, the same time. Okay. And this guy, she said, okay, so she sent him nudes. Yes. She sent him nudes, yet she is still slacking, uh, slacking. Screenshooting, I'm not screen recording.
30:03 Speaker 04 Snap.
30:04 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
30:04 Speaker 04 Snapchatting? Is that the word you're looking for?
30:07 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, she snapped him. She's, she's still snapping him now. Yep. Who else in here?
30:12 Speaker 04 Those are the only two.
30:13 Caleb Hammer? Those are the two. Yep. Well, good news. They're not in chat anymore. Did you force him to delete him?
30:21 Speaker 04 That is a girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, girl.
30:27 Caleb Hammer? And then the rest are dudes and two of them you sent nudes to.
30:30 Speaker 04 Girl. And girl and girl.
30:34 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but two of them you sent nudes to. Do you not get that? Do you not get that?
30:38 Speaker 04 And I had.
30:38 Caleb Hammer? Chat, am I the only one here?
30:40 Speaker 04 I had.
30:41 Caleb Hammer? You're like almost, you're actually okay with this somehow. I'm not okay with it. Then why do you allow this?
30:47 Speaker 04 I had cut them out.
30:48 Caleb Hammer? The way you talk to these guys is crazy.
30:51 Speaker 04 I had come to him and I said, these people are my friends.
30:57 Speaker 04 If I don't send messages to them and
31:00 Caleb Hammer? They're your friends that you sent nudes to. Are they your friends? You sent nudes to them. Are they your friends? You sent nudes to them. Nudes to them. Nudes. All these men. All these men.
31:13 Speaker 03 When we had the fight, I told her the only way I would trust her is if I can see everything. And this is why I said in the chat to every picture they send back and forth, get sent into that chat for me to look.
31:24 Caleb Hammer? Draw the line, man. She shouldn't be talking to people.
31:27 Speaker 03 And I told her like any texts that needs to be on Discord or text. But yet she still sends texts to him in the Snapchat.
31:33 Caleb Hammer? Why'd you send nudes to them two years ago? Two people at the same time. And I have zero confidence she did not take any other dick.
31:39 Speaker 04 So, sorry, spam call. I can show you exactly what the pic, the link is.
31:48 Caleb Hammer? The link?
31:49 Speaker 04 Not gonna click on it, but.
31:51 Caleb Hammer? OF?
31:53 Speaker 03 It's a fan view. It's what started before.
31:55 Speaker 04 A downgraded OF.
31:58 Caleb Hammer? You had OF?
32:00 Speaker 04 Used to.
32:01 Caleb Hammer? This is a used to? Oh.
32:03 Speaker 04 Don't. Yeah.
32:05 Caleb Hammer? I get it. Okay, okay. I see. I thought you were clicking a link for him to pay. So what is this? Do you do this anymore?
32:11 Speaker 04 No.
32:12 Caleb Hammer? Is it deleted?
32:13 Speaker 04 Yes, I deleted it.
32:14 Speaker 03 It's not deleted.
32:15 Speaker 04 I swear I deleted it, the account.
32:18 Speaker 03 Uh, last month I opened, I went to the website to see if you're still uploading it. And it's, you haven't been uploading, but it's still there.
32:25 Speaker 04 I thought I deleted it.
32:27 Speaker 03 I mean, you haven't been uploading, so I didn't bring it up, but it's not deleted.
32:31 Speaker 04 I don't even remember the login if it's still active.
32:33 Speaker 03 That's saved. Your login is saved.
32:37 Speaker 04 It is?
32:38 Speaker 03 It's saved in the browser, yeah. That's how I was able to log into it.
32:42 Speaker 04 That's news to me.
32:44 Caleb Hammer? Why the is it still in chat?
32:46 Speaker 04 It's saved on his end. I can't.
32:48 Caleb Hammer? Why would you not request to delete it? If he's gonna be able to chat with him, why not request to delete it?
32:53 Speaker 04 Because I.
32:53 Caleb Hammer? I'll do it.
32:54 Speaker 04 I forgot about it until he brought this conversation up.
32:59 Speaker 03 When she started talking to him again.
33:00 Speaker 04 When I started talking to him again.
33:02 Caleb Hammer? You brought it up to him?
33:03 Speaker 03 So the way I, the way I found out she's still talking to him is I came home from work and she was on a Discord call with him.
33:11 Caleb Hammer? Ah!
33:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:12 Caleb Hammer? Ah! How does that not make you just walk the [__] out?
33:16 Speaker 04 There was also a camera sitting right behind my shoulder in the corner of the room.
33:21 Caleb Hammer? So?
33:22 Speaker 04 That he has access to, so he could hear the conversation.
33:25 Caleb Hammer? No, that's not, that's such a get, that's... Oh my [__], I don't know, I don't know. Colton, if your husband did this, fiance, no, not a chance, right? Not a [__] chance.
33:36 Speaker 03 So, I told her that, I asked her, why is she even open that door again?
33:41 Caleb Hammer? Okay, I mean, this shit's crazy.
33:43 Speaker 03 It is crazy.
33:44 Caleb Hammer? This shit's [__] crazy. I mean, I'm sorry, that shit's crazy. You sent him tits and vagina. You sent him tits and vagina. Vagina, it's not even just tits. Pussy, pussy.
33:56 Speaker 03 We had a whole fight and...
33:59 Caleb Hammer? You would think so!
34:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:00 Caleb Hammer? And then this is happening again now? How can you trust each other, I'm sorry, to bring it back to finances? How can you trust each other finances if she's talking to a guy that she sent pussy pics to? Who, by the way, again, and she didn't even say, "No, I didn't." When I brought up the two people, I have zero confidence she did not stick it in once.
34:17 Speaker 03 Those people, she's never...
34:19 Speaker 04 I haven't.
34:21 Caleb Hammer? Okay, and this is, because it'll come out at some point in your relationship. This is the time now, this is the time, I know you want to lie, I know you [__] want to lie.
34:29 Speaker 04 I'm telling you.
34:29 Caleb Hammer? And you have beautiful blue eyes. I'm saying this as a compliment, right now? So that you could, I don't know. Trust me for a second. In the five years, have you never once touched another man's penis? Do not [__] lie. I don't believe that for a second, I really do not.
34:44 Speaker 04 I am telling you, I have not.
34:45 Caleb Hammer? Now, how many more people have you sent pictures to?
34:48 Speaker 04 It was just those two.
34:49 Caleb Hammer? But why would you? Pussy too!
34:56 Speaker 04 He was away at dive school and...
35:00 Caleb Hammer? So that's an excuse, that, that's, makes it valid?
35:02 Speaker 04 It, I'm saying it doesn't make it valid, I'm saying that...
35:08 Speaker 04 Like, I don't know why, but that's how it played out.
35:12 Caleb Hammer? You don't know why?
35:16 Caleb Hammer? You don't know why? What do you mean? Two guys at the same time? Two guys at the same ti- hold on, hold on. Open it again. Oh, okay, it's still here.
35:27 Speaker 04 I was like, did you turn it off or?
35:29 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, well, he's sending shirtless photos and then you said nice. He said, thanks. And then you sent. Oh, you then you just sent the link out of the blue. Would you support me? What is it? Look at it. Google's being dumb. Won't let me sign it. Okay, I'll send you a screenshot of it. Okay. Damn, okay. You good. I'm just a worker now. I'll check it out later. Then the other guy, where's the other guy? Who is it?
35:53 Caleb Hammer? This is crazy.
35:56 Caleb Hammer? Do you even send him nudes?
35:58 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
35:58 Speaker 04 All the time.
36:00 Speaker 03 I get the better ones.
36:02 Speaker 04 You do get the better ones.
36:03 Caleb Hammer? Okay, I don't think this person has a save anymore, does he?
36:06 Speaker 03 I don't think he does. But I found out, but it was in there when I. When I, uh, looked.
36:12 Caleb Hammer? Also, did you lose a lot of weight?
36:14 Speaker 04 I've been between 110 and 130 my entire life.
36:19 Caleb Hammer? Huh.
36:20 Speaker 03 I think it's because she got taller. She was, uh.
36:25 Speaker 03 I don't know.
36:25 Caleb Hammer? What were you dating her at 12? Like?
36:27 Speaker 03 No.
36:29 Caleb Hammer? She just got taller?
36:31 Speaker 04 I got like a couple inches taller.
36:33 Caleb Hammer? Have you ever been with anyone else?
36:36 Speaker 03 During the relationship? No. I have not.
36:40 Speaker 04 But he has talked about an open relationship.
36:43 Caleb Hammer? Well, that's okay. Talking and proposing is different than doing something without the consent of the other person. There's nothing wrong with open relationships if done properly and healthily.
36:52 Speaker 03 I didn't bring up open, but I brought up, uh, bringing another person in if she was interested.
36:56 Caleb Hammer? That is, that is bringing up. You cannot equate bringing up to sending pussy to two individual men. Vaginal holes, holes of the vagina.
37:06 Speaker 03 Tuck lips.
37:07 Caleb Hammer? And it was hairy and they were there and they saw them.
37:11 Speaker 03 They did.
37:12 Caleb Hammer? What the, how can there be any trust in this relationship?
37:16 Speaker 03 Uh, we.
37:17 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I guess, are you surprised? I guess you guys met via D and D party where she was already dating someone else in the group.
37:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:25 Caleb Hammer? Oh, and she left the guy and you before they even broke up? No, while they were together, she you.
37:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:33 Caleb Hammer? And you're surprised that she's potentially a cheater? She was you while dating the other guy.
37:38 Speaker 03 So the only reason.
37:40 Caleb Hammer? My goodness.
37:41 Speaker 03 She, when we, she told, she didn't say that she broke up with him until after.
37:49 Caleb Hammer? Wait, what the? Oh, you can, this cannot be, this episode is insane. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I wouldn't combine accounts. I wouldn't be anywhere near.
38:00 Caleb Hammer? You might be a pleasant person in a lot of way, but you're a cheater.
38:03 Speaker 04 I'm not gonna deny it, but I have changed.
38:07 Caleb Hammer? Okay, but you've done it consistently because a coworker of his gave him a warning and said that you were cheating on him and slept with her coworker's boyfriend, his coworker's boyfriend.
38:20 Speaker 04 And I can tell you exactly what happened with that situation. That was mad that I was doing better at my job and that our manager preferred me over her.
38:34 Caleb Hammer? Fifteen an hour at a fast food place.
38:36 Speaker 04 It was a different job.
38:37 Caleb Hammer? Was the job.
38:38 Speaker 04 Coffee shop.
38:40 Caleb Hammer? I don't think she was that jealous enough to try to destroy a relationship.
38:45 Speaker 04 She was. Because she moved down there specifically for the manager position. And I was doing better at it than her.
38:55 Caleb Hammer? And who do you believe?
38:56 Speaker 03 I believe her because I, because I had a friend.
39:00 Caleb Hammer? Which her? Really?
39:02 Speaker 03 My girlfriend, yes.
39:03 Caleb Hammer? Literally a coworker in a relationship told you that the person who is a serial cheater from her ex and to you.
39:11 Speaker 03 So the reason why I believe her is because I had a friend do a basically a he was a PI. I had him be a PI and verified everything.
39:21 Caleb Hammer? PI what that she didn't go over again? That doesn't mean it didn't happen. PI can't do past other than if there's an entire archive online of them tweeting about, yeah, I took this dude's dick. Dude, I'm sorry.
39:34 Speaker 03 So that was sent a video.
39:36 Caleb Hammer? You don't want it to be real.
39:38 Speaker 03 I sent, I was sent a video. The, the chick that was trying to break up a relationship, sent me a video of her boyfriend, another girl. And yeah, she sent me a video.
39:50 Caleb Hammer? Hold on, that was another girl. Sounds like he's a cheater too, by the way.
39:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, no, he was. He actually gave her the clap.
39:57 Speaker 03 Because he was like two different women.
40:00 Speaker 04 And I even, because that lady, that girl.
40:04 Caleb Hammer? Didn't, if she's a cheater and he's a cheater, I feel like they likely cheated with each other.
40:10 Speaker 03 If he had the clap and they, she would have given me the clap.
40:14 Caleb Hammer? No, no, not necessarily. One, not a guarantee of spread. Two condoms. Three, she's saying she never wears condoms when she cheats.
40:21 Speaker 03 We've never used condoms.
40:22 Caleb Hammer? When she cheats and three, maybe didn't have the clap yet. That doesn't mean you have it your whole life.
40:28 Speaker 03 At the time, so when all of that happened, I know that she didn't, the video I was sent wasn't her because the chick was too big.
40:35 Caleb Hammer? You wouldn't admit on a show that's being watched by a million people that you've ever taken a penis. So I don't blame you, but I've seen a lot of things on this show and look at your history. I don't believe, maybe you haven't in the last year, but you can't say three years ago, you never have. Not once. Come on, it's in the past.
40:53 Speaker 04 I seriously have not gone and anybody else.
40:58 Caleb Hammer? You've sucked a dick?
40:59 Speaker 04 No.
41:00 Caleb Hammer? You've given a handjob?
41:01 Speaker 04 No.
41:01 Caleb Hammer? You've kissed someone?
41:03 Speaker 04 No.
41:03 Caleb Hammer? I don't believe you, but that's okay. I have nothing more.
41:06 Speaker 04 Pictures that from those instances.
41:10 Caleb Hammer? So the only ones that he caught are the only ones that happened.
41:14 Speaker 04 They are.
41:15 Caleb Hammer? It's interesting that that's convenient.
41:19 Speaker 03 I will say the reason why I believe her cuz those are the only two guys she's had a connection with.
41:24 Caleb Hammer? Lies? That's impossible. She's literally Snapchatting like 10 men right there. I just saw.
41:29 Speaker 03 All of those guys are coworkers.
41:30 Caleb Hammer? But also even still, do you think coworkers in fast food and restaurants do not? That is what they're known for. That is literally what they do to get through shifts. In math. That is it. Especially in Tulsa. Dude, I think you are blissfully ignorant. I'm just gonna let you know. And I think it's cuz he's struggled with women.
41:49 Speaker 03 You can say that, but.
41:50 Caleb Hammer? You're out of his league. I think he's kinda struggled with women. I think he doesn't wanna lose you. He's his fiance.
41:55 Speaker 03 I don't. I don't wanna lose her. But the fact that I believe her doesn't have anything to do with her pa- I mean, it does, but I don't have a reason to believe that she did.
42:07 Caleb Hammer? Statistically, people are most likely to cheat on, well, with coworkers. That is where, and she's snapping them? Okay, open one up of a coworker, random. Just show me a coworker. Actually, I'm not gonna, no, let me pick.
42:18 Speaker 04 I was gonna open Snapchat for you.
42:20 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so which one's Tia coworker?
42:24 Speaker 04 He is an old coworker from when I was in Louisiana. So about eight and a half years ago.
42:34 Speaker 03 I will say 99% of those people are just streaks. She just sends streaks to them, nothing else.
42:38 Speaker 04 Recent coworker.
42:41 Caleb Hammer? Conveniently, some of his previous snaps that are saved have now been recently deleted. And unavailable.
42:51 Speaker 03 That is her ex-girlfriend from high school.
42:53 Caleb Hammer? Girlfriend?
42:54 Speaker 04 From high school.
42:55 Caleb Hammer? Vaginal connection girlfriend?
42:56 Speaker 04 Not that far.
42:57 Caleb Hammer? But girlfriend-girlfriend?
42:59 Speaker 04 We kissed.
43:00 Caleb Hammer? In your snap.
43:01 Speaker 04 But that's about it.
43:02 Caleb Hammer? You are a cock. You are a cock. Yeah, she's sending sexy picture there, sexy picture there. Okay, come on. Tattoos, tattoos, tattoos. Come on. Lesbianism. Sexy picture, sexy picture. Showing her belly. Come on, you're getting cocked. Okay, what about?
43:24 Speaker 04 He is not a coworker. He was from one-
43:26 Caleb Hammer? None of them are coworkers dude!
43:28 Speaker 04 He was one of the other ones from high school.
43:32 Caleb Hammer? Guess what?
43:33 Speaker 04 That I talked to.
43:35 Speaker 03 Uh, no, I think, isn't one of your old neighbors?
43:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, he was also a neighbor of my grandparents.
43:41 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, what you doing in 2021? Cause you asked them what Korean dish you guys just made together.
43:45 Speaker 04 Smoked weed and made Korean dishes.
43:47 Caleb Hammer? Mm-hmm. Yeah, with a high, uh, ex-high schooler.
43:52 Speaker 03 Uh, I think they, uh, he was a neighbor that she grew up with.
43:58 Caleb Hammer? Oh, even better. A guy neighbor that they're slacking. What about-
44:02 Speaker 04 He is an old coworker.
44:03 Caleb Hammer? Oh my gosh, none of them are coworkers. Every person I-
44:06 Speaker 04 He just transferred. He just transferred.
44:09 Caleb Hammer? Every person I call out, dude. Every person I call out. Every person is not a current coworker that I've called out. Oh, they rode to work together quite a few times.
44:19 Speaker 03 Yeah. She's done that with multiple coworkers.
44:21 Caleb Hammer? She rides to work with her male coworkers multiple times.
44:26 Speaker 04 They don't have cars and if the manager on shift currently before I go in can't do it, somebody has to.
44:38 Speaker 04 I don't know if he's gonna answer.
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46:31 Speaker 03 There's no way he just did that.
46:39 Caleb Hammer? What about?
46:41 Speaker 04 This is from my previous job. He is my only contact with that job to have been able to get my tax forms.
46:48 Caleb Hammer? On Snapchat? You call.
46:52 Speaker 04 I did call him. I only had his Snapchat.
46:56 Caleb Hammer? So weird. Uh, remind me?
47:00 Speaker 04 He is a current coworker. Although I think he's at work right now, so I don't think he'll use it.
47:07 Caleb Hammer? I mean, come on, I'm just being objective. He's a very attractive man.
47:15 Caleb Hammer? Okay, okay, well, maybe.
47:19 Speaker 04 We went over.
47:21 Caleb Hammer? And he was?
47:22 Speaker 04 An old coworker from eight and a half years ago.
47:26 Speaker 04 I don't think he's gonna answer either.
47:28 Speaker 03 I don't think so, because you guys only do streaks.
47:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:32 Speaker 03 Most of them, we only do streaks. So you send like one in the morning and one at night. I think that's about it.
47:36 Caleb Hammer? This is weird. And the fact that you're okay with it. I guess you.
47:40 Speaker 03 Because I trust her.
47:42 Caleb Hammer? Based on what? I have no idea, but it's because you are afraid of being alone. Let's be honest. So Alphonse, you've also told Colton that apparently there's a girl that you were suspicious of that she hooked up with in high school.
47:54 Speaker 03 That's, that's, that's what I told you.
47:57 Caleb Hammer? Okay, have you woman since you guys have been together?
48:00 Speaker 04 No.
48:02 Speaker 03 So that.
48:03 Caleb Hammer? But you said you want to bring her in. You told Colton, you said you want to go hang out with her. Oh, she wants to go hang out with her.
48:09 Speaker 03 In Louisiana. Yeah.
48:10 Caleb Hammer? You want to go hang out with her? The woman that you had.
48:14 Speaker 04 I also have family over there.
48:17 Caleb Hammer? Yes, but you want to go see her and hang out with her, buddy. I'm sorry. Come on. Come on.
48:27 Speaker 03 She, since that incident in 23, and we had her fighting out, falling out and everything, she did build trust.
48:36 Caleb Hammer? Or she's better at hiding. She's a serial cheater her entire life. I don't believe shit. Once, once you're a serial cheater.
48:42 Speaker 03 Snap Maps and Life360 and she hands me her phone all the time and I'm allowed to use her phone. Like, it's just, there's.
48:49 Caleb Hammer? Which is.
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49:19 Caleb Hammer? Why are you able to see exactly what happens when she drives with her male coworkers to and from work?
49:25 Speaker 03 Because that's all that is.
49:26 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh. That's all it is. No one's ever given or gotten road header touched once in their lives. What do we think the household financial score is?
49:33 Speaker 03 Oh, like a one or a point five?
49:35 Caleb Hammer? Mm hmm.
49:39 Speaker 04 Probably about the same.
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50:20 Caleb Hammer? I can't believe you had to put our cameras all around the house just because of her.
50:23 Speaker 03 No, so the camera is just the one in the office because our cat likes to roam in there.
50:29 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh.
50:30 Speaker 03 Um, dark cat constantly goes on her lap and bothers her on her chair.
50:34 Caleb Hammer? What's this quick credit connect?
50:36 Speaker 04 That is a loan that I have.
50:38 Caleb Hammer? Why do you have a loan?
50:40 Speaker 04 Because our given-
50:41 Caleb Hammer? To fix a car to go suck someone's dick?
50:43 Speaker 04 No, to help pay rent and utilities.
50:46 Caleb Hammer? Oh, so when we were paying rent, we weren't even paying-
50:49 Speaker 03 That was when I was unemployed.
50:51 Caleb Hammer? Which the VA paid for your rent?
50:54 Speaker 03 No, so I was unemployed for six months. The VA helped us move into a curtain house and paid for the first three months.
51:01 Caleb Hammer? Wait, why am I being told that you're about to buy a house?
51:05 Speaker 03 Well, because we are.
51:06 Caleb Hammer? What? You're not paying rent asshole. How are you gonna make that make sense?
51:12 Speaker 03 So we are looking at a house in Mississippi for $45,000 and the monthly payments is gonna be half of rent.
51:19 Caleb Hammer? Mississippi?
51:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, Mississippi.
51:21 Caleb Hammer? Well, I guess you guys don't really have careers, so you could go anywhere.
51:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:25 Caleb Hammer? What the, for $45,000?
51:27 Speaker 03 Yes.
51:27 Caleb Hammer? What the, what, what is it? A trailer?
51:29 Speaker 03 It is a manufactured home, three bedroom, no, two bedroom, one bath.
51:32 Caleb Hammer? Why are you doing that? Why are you doing it to depreciate an asset?
51:36 Caleb Hammer? Just rent. That's even, it's better.
51:39 Speaker 03 Can't stand renting.
51:40 Caleb Hammer? Well, yes, you can and you will because it's better. Don't get a manufactured home. Why are we moving to man? What are, what are we doing here? Trying to get away from all the dicks she's used to?
51:50 Speaker 03 No, we're trying to get, I'm tired of renting.
51:53 Caleb Hammer? Why? This is dude. So you get a depreciating asset and you have to rent the lot you're on anyway.
51:58 Speaker 03 No, that we're going to own the land it's on.
52:00 Caleb Hammer? You're going to own the land?
52:01 Speaker 03 Yes.
52:01 Caleb Hammer? Okay, that, that could be the only upside, but a manufactured housing takes a lot of money, goes down in value. And then you have to try to sell it and it gets. Why is this our dream? What the fuck is happening here? What are we talking about?
52:12 Speaker 03 So the.
52:12 Speaker 04 The main dream is the land to build our own house. A manufacturer home is just to be able to have a temporary.
52:19 Caleb Hammer? How are you getting a manufactured house and land and potentially building a future house? When you can't even pay $800 rent without all these loans, without not paying it? The are you talking about?
52:30 Speaker 03 What the? Just because the last year was doesn't mean that's what's going to be for the future.
52:35 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but doesn't mean you can't do it now.
52:37 Speaker 03 Half of just threw up shit.
52:39 Caleb Hammer? But that certainly means you can't get a house now.
52:41 Speaker 03 Fucking my knee between having different jobs. I'm doing the best I can with what I have.
52:46 Caleb Hammer? Right. Savings $171. How the are you doing this?
52:51 Caleb Hammer? Yes, that does mean you can't do this now.
52:53 Speaker 03 How we're doing it, but it's just, we're, it's been, it's been happening.
52:57 Caleb Hammer? I told you literally going to do it in like a couple of months. How? You have a hundred dollars in savings. You've done nothing but fuck up everything for a year and a half. This makes no sense. I'm not saying you can't do it in five years, but how are you doing it today?
53:13 Speaker 03 Hopes and dreams.
53:14 Caleb Hammer? Oh, for.
53:16 Caleb Hammer? And hopes and dreams. She's not cheating on you. That's how you build that trust.
53:19 Speaker 03 That trust is three years of just.
53:21 Caleb Hammer? Three years of going through DMs and she found a way to get it out of the DMs. Come on. Seen this game before.
53:29 Caleb Hammer? Had cheaters before and I know them and smell them when I can. They're right next to me.
53:39 Caleb Hammer? Why not just open up? You obviously want to other men. And that's fine. There is biological desire there and you.
53:48 Speaker 03 The open relationship would only benefit her.
53:50 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, cuz you can't land.
53:51 Speaker 03 No.
53:54 Caleb Hammer? You can go to the gym, get some game. Dress better.
53:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, probably, but it's. I would, I'd rather stick to what I have.
54:04 Caleb Hammer? Oh, no, I agree. I agree. I would just draw the line in the sand.
54:07 Speaker 03 I tried drawing a line and she wants to cross it.
54:13 Caleb Hammer? But you're the one who proposed open.
54:15 Speaker 03 I proposed bringing another person in relationship.
54:18 Caleb Hammer? Why?
54:19 Speaker 03 Um, at the time, it was just stale and um, with her being swinging both ways. Bringing another woman in relationship would benefit the both of us.
54:30 Caleb Hammer? Did you say no?
54:31 Speaker 04 I said, that's a possibility.
54:34 Caleb Hammer? Then what happened?
54:36 Speaker 03 Uh, what happened is the conversation got dropped and never brought up again.
54:39 Caleb Hammer? Why?
54:40 Speaker 03 I don't know why. It was just.
54:42 Speaker 04 My guess is cuz we got too busy focusing on our jobs and try and make money to pay our bills.
54:47 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh, sure.
54:49 Speaker 03 Back my last job, I was getting twenty five dollars an hour. We were living very comfortably in a three bedroom house.
54:54 Caleb Hammer? The rumor saying having an open relationship takes all the fun out of cheating for her. It is true.
55:00 Speaker 03 It is true.
55:00 Caleb Hammer? Cheating is a kink for many people.
55:02 Speaker 03 It is.
55:03 Caleb Hammer? It's kinda crazy. It's forbidden. It's bad. It's naughty.
55:08 Speaker 03 I mean.
55:09 Caleb Hammer? I prefer more the open thing, but it's cuz I don't wanna get as well, hurt my feelings.
55:15 Speaker 03 I don't think anybody really wants to unless that's.
55:16 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but I think that's what she likes. Is that the thrill of it?
55:19 Speaker 04 No.
55:23 Caleb Hammer? Huh? What? Okay. Mm hmm. I mean, you couldn't even afford to take care of your two dogs. You had to rehome them. So you're gonna get a mortgage? What are you talking about asshole?
55:34 Speaker 03 The.
55:34 Caleb Hammer? Dude, this makes no sense. You're literally putting this on a loan and now your payments on here are two hundred eleven dollars and twenty nine cents. Who knows what the interest is? It's horrendous. It's already above the original balance you took out of three thousand dollars cuz you're probably not even paying this.
55:48 Speaker 04 I made three payments on it already.
55:52 Caleb Hammer? And the interest is so brutal that it just for a long time.
55:54 Speaker 03 I think the interest is twenty three percent.
55:56 Caleb Hammer? Oh, yeah.
55:59 Caleb Hammer? What are we doing? Why do you guys live the lives that you live? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Oh, oh, fees, oh, fees, fees, fees, fees, fees. What's CC flow?
56:10 Speaker 04 It's a line of credit to help build my credit.
56:14 Caleb Hammer? To help build your credit? What fucking credit are you trying to build? You have personal loans and credit cards and bullshit everywhere. What do you mean build your credit?
56:23 Speaker 04 I'm just trying to make my payments on time, build my credit so that I can-
56:27 Caleb Hammer? You already have debts, make those payments on time.
56:29 Speaker 04 I am.
56:30 Caleb Hammer? Why do you need this?
56:32 Speaker 04 Cause I originally pulled that out to help with bills and I've made-
56:35 Caleb Hammer? There you go, that's the real answer.
56:37 Speaker 03 What's the credit limit on that?
56:38 Caleb Hammer? I, I can't see, I, I don't know.
56:41 Speaker 03 Cause if it's, if CC flows, the one was $3,000, that one was to consolidate, I think two small ones.
56:46 Caleb Hammer? So that's what it was, you don't know, oh my gosh, you don't even know what's happening. Neither of you know what's happening. A thousand, what? You owe $2,308.98.
56:55 Speaker 04 That was the limit that it gave me originally and then it has refinanced twice.
57:00 Caleb Hammer? Alright, I'll let you use the Fizz card, it's a debit card that builds credit. How about that? Only lets you spend what's in your checking account. Do that! That's it! You can't do any thing else.
57:13 Caleb Hammer? Wait, you had a wife?
57:15 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:16 Caleb Hammer? What?
57:20 Caleb Hammer? You had a wife? And- So this is why, this actually confirms why you're sticking around. Because you're just afraid of having to go through this again.
57:28 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, because it happened.
57:30 Caleb Hammer? Oh no, you can't just put up with someone who takes it behind your back. Why'd you guys break up? Ex-wife, this early?
57:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, so it was, we were living in, with her mom and we had a kid and it was-
57:51 Caleb Hammer? You have a child?
57:53 Speaker 03 Yes, he lives with his mom.
57:55 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
57:55 Speaker 04 His mom that doesn't want him?
57:57 Speaker 03 My ex-wife.
57:59 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, why'd you break up? Cause that's even more intense.
58:02 Speaker 03 She divorced me because she cheated on me with her high school sweetheart.
58:08 Speaker 04 Oh boy, oh boy.
58:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:11 Speaker 04 Are we sure this isn't your king?
58:13 Speaker 03 Uh, what, me getting cheated on?
58:19 Speaker 03 Why would I want that?
58:21 Speaker 04 I don't know.
58:22 Speaker 03 Just because it happens to me doesn't mean I want it to happen. So if
58:29 Speaker 03 if my life has to restart multiple times because my wife or girlfriend cheated on me, I don't, I'm not into that, that's
58:41 Speaker 03 I've wanted that when that happened, I But she left you. You didn't even leave her when she cheated. She left you. She cheated and left you. She left me for him. She left me for him and then told my son to call him dad and put me out of the picture completely. She took the house. Did you go to court, dude? No, because Do you not give a about your kid enough to go to court? I couldn't. What is wrong with you? What do you mean you couldn't? Uh, because I was in a hospital for attempting suicide.
59:10 Speaker 05 Wow, man.
59:16 Speaker 03 Oh, my goodness. So while I was in there, she Then do it later. I'm glad you're alive. Let's be clear. The reason why I haven't yet is because if I were to go now, I would lose and it would be no point. Why? Because she already has the kid and I am, as you can see, I'm financially I wouldn't be able to afford a kid.
59:37 Speaker 04 She won't let him see the kid without her being there and she doesn't even have the time to bring
59:43 Speaker 03 Why? She was just attracted to another dude. Why is she being rude to you? Oh, no, she's more than that. So that, that guy that she cheated on me with only lasted two years. Oh, my God. And now she's with a woman. How's your kid? Oh, my goodness. What is, why? Well, you surround yourself with the worst women.
59:58 Speaker 04 Eight?
59:59 Speaker 03 That's a good question. Your kid's eight? No, my kid was born in 2019, May 31st, 2019. Okay. Of course. He's turning seven in May. Yeah.
1:00:09 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:00:11 Caleb Hammer? How long has it been since you talked to your kid?
1:00:14 Speaker 03 It's been two years.
1:00:15 Caleb Hammer? Oh, good death.
1:00:16 Speaker 03 Because, so-
1:00:17 Caleb Hammer? You guys don't have a kid together, right?
1:00:18 Speaker 03 No, I was living in Idaho when I was, I reached out to her, and she reached out to me. She was living in DFW and told me she was leaving Texas to move to Tulsa, Oklahoma.
1:00:30 Caleb Hammer? She cheated, she left you, then she cheated and you won't leave, and now you're- Honestly, if in the post-show Brandon literally just [BLEEP] her, you wouldn't do anything. You literally would not do anything.
1:00:43 Speaker 03 I wouldn't.
1:00:43 Caleb Hammer? No, you wouldn't.
1:00:45 Speaker 03 If it happened and I knew it happened, I'd be gone.
1:00:48 Caleb Hammer? No, no, because this has happened so many times and you've never left.
1:00:51 Speaker 03 The only thing that's happened is nudes. That's the only thing that's happened.
1:00:54 Caleb Hammer? If she literally took a titty, sent it to Brandon in the post-show, you would do nothing.
1:00:59 Speaker 03 If it happened now, no, I would be gone. Because it's, I, it happened once and it hasn't happened again, and I told her if it happens again, I'm [BLEEP] gone.
1:01:08 Caleb Hammer? $349 of fees. Why is there fees? Why are there fees happening everywhere? I don't even know.
1:01:13 Speaker 04 What one is that one?
1:01:14 Caleb Hammer? This is the [BLEEP] CC flow. I just, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I just don't, like, it's like, we're gonna go through this, but how will you ever trust each other? I am not trusting her. You literally have access to all her messages.
1:01:29 Speaker 03 I do.
1:01:29 Caleb Hammer? That is that bad. Our relationship is in that stage.
1:01:36 Caleb Hammer? I'm gonna go through y'all's text messages in the post-show.
1:01:39 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:01:41 Caleb Hammer? And every time this happens, it's gonna be [BLEEP] juicy. I know for a fact it's gonna be juicy. Why does this have 140, 145% interest rate? What is this? What is this loan?
1:01:54 Speaker 04 Chicken go loan?
1:01:55 Caleb Hammer? It's a payday loan.
1:01:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:01:58 Speaker 03 That's been refinanced three times.
1:02:02 Caleb Hammer? Well, I don't know what the fuck it worth. I'm gonna say it's 1,200, 1,925,044 cents, cuz who knows, you just keep refilling every time for fucking what?
1:02:13 Speaker 04 We originally got it, it was to help us buy groceries. And then, the next time, when I refinanced it, it was for utilities, because we had...
1:02:24 Caleb Hammer? How much do you guys make on your DoorDash?
1:02:27 Speaker 03 I make 450 dollars a week.
1:02:29 Caleb Hammer? A week, okay, let's call that after gas maintenance, everything.
1:02:32 Speaker 03 After gas, it's the 320.
1:02:34 Caleb Hammer? Okay, let's call it 250 then a week, okay? And then, let's call it 200 after taxes that you will set aside. Make 200 extra a week in actual, true after-tax profit times 52 divided by 12. Okay, an extra 8.67 a month. You?
1:02:50 Speaker 04 I make about 150 a week.
1:02:53 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:02:54 Speaker 04 On DoorDash.
1:02:55 Caleb Hammer? Before, everything?
1:02:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:02:57 Speaker 03 Uh, you don't do DoorDash as much as I do. I think it's 150 a month, is what you do.
1:03:01 Speaker 04 You think a month?
1:03:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think a month, because you do, when you go DoorDash, it's like, once a weekend.
1:03:06 Caleb Hammer? I'll call it like 100 bucks then, for you.
1:03:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:09 Caleb Hammer? Oh, yeah, yeah, guys, you're fucking broken, man. Yeah, that's cuz she works four hours.
1:03:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:03:13 Caleb Hammer? Well, this is, I mean, a payday loan's crazy. Payment of, oh, it's twice a month. You actually making these payments?
1:03:21 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:03:24 Speaker 03 The check and go is what she, one of the first things she pays with her paychecks.
1:03:28 Caleb Hammer? 148.12 cents a month at 145% interest rate. Indigo!
1:03:36 Caleb Hammer? I believe it, I'm mistaken. These ones have horrendous interest rates, don't they? Yep, there it is, 36%. Fuck me. What are we doing? It's maxed out. So, it's another one of yours. Why do you need a credit bill to do? What are you talking about? You're already a payday loan.
1:03:49 Speaker 04 That one I pulled out, because...
1:03:51 Caleb Hammer? You gotta pull out, dude.
1:03:52 Speaker 04 Not pulled out, I got it.
1:03:53 Caleb Hammer? You better be pulling out, so he's not getting another baby that's not his. 970.91 cents.
1:03:59 Speaker 04 I got that one to help us when we were moving down here, because we forgot to account for how much gas we would need after pulling a U-Haul.
1:04:07 Caleb Hammer? Speaking of pulling out, I mean, I'm just gonna keep going back to it, cuz this is, again, the trust thing. Answer this question right now. Okay, hey, let's take your word. You have not cheated. You have not physically cheated, okay? And you have not sent nudes in three years, okay? So, we're aligned on that word.
1:04:23 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:04:23 Caleb Hammer? And you will not cheat. Like, even if you wanted another guy, you would not cheat. Now, answer me this. If given permission... Would you want to other people, men and women? If given permission, if you say yes, if one second, if you say yes, it doesn't mean you will without his permission. I am asking with permission, would you be open to that?
1:04:43 Speaker 04 I'd be open, but I probably wouldn't take it because after the past year, I've been addicted, addicted.
1:04:55 Caleb Hammer? Oh, good. Five years in. Just the last year.
1:04:58 Speaker 04 Like I have been off the walls addicted.
1:05:00 Caleb Hammer? Why?
1:05:01 Speaker 04 More than I was.
1:05:02 Caleb Hammer? What changed? That's a good question. How often do you guys? Uh, if I initiate, it's once or twice a week. If she initiates, it's once a month. That's addicted? So you would?
1:05:12 Speaker 04 So.
1:05:13 Caleb Hammer? Come on, if you given permission, you would, come on, I'm saying given permission, I'm not saying cheating, given permission, you would want to other men and women. Given permission.
1:05:22 Speaker 04 Not necessarily.
1:05:23 Caleb Hammer? I am. Your shit, man. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Three years to pay this off. And you're addicted is once a month. It's not how I usually define it.
1:05:33 Speaker 04 That was two years, like the past two years before this last year, I was doing like once a month.
1:05:41 Caleb Hammer? He just said once a month.
1:05:43 Speaker 04 Like since start of 2026.
1:05:46 Caleb Hammer? Which is. For a month and a half then? Yeah.
1:05:49 Speaker 04 More.
1:05:50 Caleb Hammer? Twice a month, yippee. So the last time she.
1:05:54 Speaker 04 Three times the past week.
1:05:56 Caleb Hammer? Okay, the past week. I'm just like, what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah, she got a little horny. It's ovulation window. Great.
1:06:03 Speaker 04 Not yet.
1:06:04 Caleb Hammer? What the fuck is going on here? Okay, someone pull up their Amazon. I'm told, I'm being told to pull up your Amazon. You've had a late fee this year.
1:06:11 Speaker 04 Me?
1:06:11 Caleb Hammer? It's Indigo. Yeah.
1:06:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:06:13 Caleb Hammer? Yeah. Like it's nothing.
1:06:16 Speaker 04 A singular late fee.
1:06:18 Caleb Hammer? Yeah. Oh, start a screen recording. Okay.
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1:09:27 Caleb Hammer? For fuck's sake. This is a foldable phone? It's so long.
1:09:32 Speaker 03 Yep, it's a Motorola Razr.
1:09:34 Caleb Hammer? Oh my goodness, gaming shit. Memory foam seat cushion. Yeah, where you can sit down and game shit. Oh my gosh, professional earbuds for gaming. What the is this? Couples rose after remote. Please don't, is that, that's not on right now, is it?
1:09:46 Speaker 03 No. I don't, we haven't used it yet.
1:09:50 Caleb Hammer? Dude, it's this gaming shit and stupid shit, man. Oh my goodness. And then another vibrator.
1:09:58 Caleb Hammer? And then shit, you just set up a gaming setup. How much did you invest into this gaming setup?
1:10:02 Speaker 03 The, actually the monitors, that's her Christmas.
1:10:05 Caleb Hammer? For fuck's sake.
1:10:05 Speaker 03 She was using on TVs. And I, on Christmas, I got her two monitors for her setup.
1:10:12 Caleb Hammer? How often do you watch?
1:10:14 Speaker 04 Like once a month?
1:10:19 Speaker 04 If at all?
1:10:21 Caleb Hammer? I don't know, it just doesn't line up.
1:10:23 Speaker 04 He watches it more than I do.
1:10:28 Caleb Hammer? Well, if you're not fucking him, that's fair.
1:10:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, I watch most daily.
1:10:32 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
1:10:33 Speaker 03 And I jog off like once or twice a day.
1:10:35 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
1:10:38 Caleb Hammer? Oh. Oh. Hopefully not in the triple dippers.
1:10:47 Caleb Hammer? Gamer subs is good. Use my link on the Gamer Subs website. You'll get a discount, okay?
1:10:51 Speaker 03 The reason we got it on Amazon is because her grandparents got us a $75 Amazon gift card.
1:10:57 Caleb Hammer? Okay. But in the future, use mine. You get, I think it's a 10 or 20% discount. It's 40 cents a serving. It is much better to make at home.
1:11:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:11:05 Caleb Hammer? It's cheaper. You got a Donald Trump best gamer ever thing and Second Amendment, American flag. I mean.
1:11:11 Speaker 04 Christmas. That was his Christmas stuff.
1:11:14 Caleb Hammer? Okay, that's exciting.
1:11:15 Speaker 04 And his birthday stuff.
1:11:17 Caleb Hammer? Learned a lot while sitting on the pot. Oh my goodness, you guys are.
1:11:20 Speaker 03 That book was wild, by the way.
1:11:22 Caleb Hammer? That was a book?
1:11:23 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:11:23 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:11:24 Caleb Hammer? You've read?
1:11:24 Speaker 03 I have.
1:11:25 Speaker 04 I've.
1:11:28 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:11:28 Speaker 04 I buy him books so that he can read them because they're topics that he's.
1:11:33 Speaker 03 Oh, that's a fun game. That's a great board game.
1:11:38 Speaker 03 It's a great board game.
1:11:39 Speaker 04 It's a great game.
1:11:41 Caleb Hammer? Okay, interest and fees. Oh, this is a different Indigo card. No, this is Destiny. Destiny, who has the Destiny card?
1:11:47 Speaker 03 That's her.
1:11:48 Caleb Hammer? Oh my gosh, it's all you so far.
1:11:49 Speaker 04 That was for.
1:11:51 Caleb Hammer? We needed credit builder.
1:11:52 Speaker 04 When I first moved out of my grandparents' house. It was to help me.
1:11:57 Caleb Hammer? What was that?
1:11:58 Speaker 03 I think it was back when we.
1:12:00 Speaker 04 I was 21.
1:12:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, when he moved in with me shortly after we got together.
1:12:07 Caleb Hammer? $48 monthly fee, credit protection, two years to pay off. What a disaster. What a disaster. Who's credit ninjaing?
1:12:15 Speaker 03 That's Luna's.
1:12:16 Caleb Hammer? Oh, Luna, you're just an incredible, what a, what a, what a catch you got here.
1:12:20 Speaker 04 Most of the loans I've pulled out are because he has shit credit and can't pull them out.
1:12:26 Caleb Hammer? I need to define this because everyone in the audience always thinks I'm attracted to literally every single one that comes on here. I just want to be objective. You are not my type, but you are also be out of his league.
1:12:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:36 Caleb Hammer? Beyond.
1:12:37 Speaker 03 I agree with that.
1:12:38 Caleb Hammer? And that is why you aren't, with all this debt, with the cheating, with the history, with, it's just like.
1:12:44 Caleb Hammer? That is why you will not leave.
1:12:46 Speaker 03 I won't leave for multiple reasons.
1:12:48 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, because she takes your dick, has big tits, is way beyond your league, and you're afraid of being alone.
1:12:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's, uh, that's about it.
1:12:55 Caleb Hammer? That is it. That is why you won't leave. How does that make you feel? That's why he's not leaving.
1:13:01 Caleb Hammer? If pussy whipped them.
1:13:02 Speaker 04 Wouldn't use that term.
1:13:04 Caleb Hammer? I would.
1:13:05 Speaker 04 I was gonna say titty whipped, but.
1:13:07 Caleb Hammer? Well, I've seen both, so.
1:13:11 Caleb Hammer? Thank goodness, only one of them is hairy. Thirty-three dollars and forty-two cents a month, four hundred ninety-eight dollars and seventy-three cents. They really go full bush in Oklahoma, huh?
1:13:22 Speaker 03 I wouldn't know that. I don't, I haven't tested any of the Tulsa Rainbow.
1:13:27 Caleb Hammer? You've only been with one woman?
1:13:29 Speaker 03 In Tulsa? Yeah, we haven't, we've lived in Oklahoma for not that long. We've been.
1:13:33 Caleb Hammer? Are you guys in Oklahoma?
1:13:34 Speaker 03 So we're in Oklahoma because my baby mama moved up here and I moved down here to go be with my son.
1:13:40 Caleb Hammer? Where's down up? Where? What?
1:13:42 Speaker 03 So she's from DFW.
1:13:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:13:44 Speaker 03 She moved up from DFW to Tulsa and I moved from Idaho to Tulsa to meet her.
1:13:49 Caleb Hammer? Idaho?
1:13:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:51 Caleb Hammer? Actually, I hear Idaho's nice.
1:13:52 Speaker 03 It's very nice. I loved Idaho.
1:13:54 Caleb Hammer? But now you're in Oklahoma.
1:13:55 Speaker 04 But we moved here so that he could get to know his son and everything and then.
1:13:59 Speaker 03 That's a.
1:14:00 Speaker 04 Free. Like two, three months after.
1:14:03 Caleb Hammer? I'm sorry.
1:14:03 Speaker 04 We moved here and she moved here, she lost her job, got evicted and had to move in with his mother. His mother, not her mother.
1:14:10 Caleb Hammer? And yet you can't see the kids, though.
1:14:12 Speaker 03 No, because after she moved out of my mom's, she went no contact. She doesn't contact my mom anymore. The last my mom heard from her is she moved in with a coworker from a job she had for two months.
1:14:24 Caleb Hammer? Okay, what's going on with credit ninja?
1:14:27 Speaker 04 That one was. Mine.
1:14:31 Caleb Hammer? Four ninety-eight, seventy-three, thirty-three dollars, forty-two cents. You're using kickoff. I do like kickoff as a credit builder.
1:14:37 Speaker 03 We both have kickoff.
1:14:38 Caleb Hammer? Get up. Okay, you haven't fucked it up. That's good. You, you have not brought it to that three thousand five hundred.
1:14:43 Speaker 04 That's the thirty-five one.
1:14:44 Caleb Hammer? Who's kickoff is this? Oh.
1:14:46 Speaker 04 The thirty-five a month is.
1:14:48 Caleb Hammer? That's why it's not being fucked. That's good. So thirty-five dollars a month, three thousand one hundred fifty, uh, no, no, sorry, that's the, that's the balance. Uh, three hundred fifty bucks. Okay. Yeah, again, this can be a tool to be used and you're doing it. This one you're doing right. I'm okay with that.
1:15:06 Caleb Hammer? Let's see how you're doing it. Okay, even better, actually.
1:15:09 Speaker 04 I want with the cheaper one because I know I have all the other bills until those are paid off. I don't want.
1:15:17 Caleb Hammer? Forty-five dollars with five dollars a month.
1:15:20 Speaker 04 So.
1:15:21 Caleb Hammer? Good. Who's quicksilver?
1:15:23 Speaker 03 Mine.
1:15:24 Speaker 04 Wait, are we sure that one's yours?
1:15:26 Caleb Hammer? Uh, who's above the limit?
1:15:28 Speaker 03 What's the limit?
1:15:29 Caleb Hammer? Three hundred?
1:15:30 Speaker 03 That is hers.
1:15:30 Caleb Hammer? Of course.
1:15:31 Speaker 04 That is the first credit card I ever got.
1:15:34 Caleb Hammer? Oh, so let's keep it maxed out.
1:15:36 Speaker 04 Uh, I had paid it off once completely.
1:15:39 Caleb Hammer? Great. So let's keep it maxed out.
1:15:40 Speaker 04 And then I had to use again when we moved down here for the down.
1:15:45 Caleb Hammer? You're not down here. You're up in Oklahoma, like nine hours away.
1:15:49 Speaker 03 Seven, but yes.
1:15:51 Caleb Hammer? You ain't down here.
1:15:52 Speaker 03 Compared to Idaho, yes.
1:15:53 Caleb Hammer? Well, compared, everything compared to Idaho is down here. Okay, three hundred eighteen dollars and sixty cents with the twenty-five dollar minimum payment takes nineteen months to pay off if you even paid off your purchasing money while interest is occurring. Well, late fees are happening. She's late on everything. Why are you with her? Just for the tits? Are they that good? No, they're fine. There's big tits everywhere. For Starbucks, Starbucks, late fees, Starbucks, you. What are you doing?
1:16:16 Speaker 04 I have recently backed off of Starbucks because we bought.
1:16:20 Caleb Hammer? Wow. And then you did it recently was literally her last statement where she's not paying it on time, getting to Starbucks, going above the limit. I recently stopped. Now you and this is your literal most recent statement available. You make your coffee, make your energy drinks at home. You.
1:16:38 Speaker 04 We got gamer subs literally right after we sent these to you.
1:16:42 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, she, you can do both.
1:16:43 Speaker 03 She doesn't like coffee at home. We've tried. I've tried getting her.
1:16:46 Caleb Hammer? Starbucks is like the worst coffee. Just get the beans in. You can make it just as shitty.
1:16:50 Speaker 04 I will say I used to work at Starbucks.
1:16:54 Speaker 03 And because of that.
1:16:54 Caleb Hammer? That was your coffee shop that someone was jealous about?
1:16:58 Speaker 04 Nope, that was a different one.
1:16:59 Speaker 03 It was the coffee shop that she had a, was a, at a resort in Idaho.
1:17:05 Caleb Hammer? Okay, Alphonse, you, you're a quicksilver.
1:17:09 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:17:09 Caleb Hammer? Time for your quicksilver. Um, let's see.
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1:17:42 Caleb Hammer? $138.26 with a minimum monthly payment of $25. Okay, seven brew coffee you're still going fuck you steam going in and getting some energy drinks probably steam steam talk about steam first of all how are you spending so much on steam I play video games I do not buy this many video games in a week.
1:18:01 Speaker 03 They it's either a video game.
1:18:04 Caleb Hammer? Oh fuck you know what you are I was looking to buy a new video game the other day and you know what I saw Brandon on the top sold all three are simulators on steam right now.
1:18:13 Speaker 03 I don't not buy those games.
1:18:14 Caleb Hammer? Mm hmm.
1:18:15 Speaker 03 I don't I can show you my steam library.
1:18:17 Caleb Hammer? Who are you to talk.
1:18:18 Speaker 03 I can show you my steam library.
1:18:20 Caleb Hammer? Well he is well come on you're the two times a day or you got a my friend.
1:18:24 Speaker 03 I do.
1:18:25 Caleb Hammer? You got a fiction I'm glad you can at least still stick it in her but.
1:18:28 Speaker 03 When I was trying to stick it in her like every day we end up having a fight because she thought I was using her for her body so I had to cut back on that.
1:18:38 Caleb Hammer? And.
1:18:39 Speaker 03 There was not I was not.
1:18:40 Caleb Hammer? I think you kind of are it's the only reason you're sticking with her.
1:18:42 Speaker 03 I mean I I love her too which is why we're sticking through all of it.
1:18:46 Caleb Hammer? You're upset that he wanted to have sex every day that's usually like a.
1:18:49 Speaker 04 I wasn't upset it was just with there were a lot of times where he woke me up from sleeping.
1:18:56 Speaker 03 Cause you gave me consent for it.
1:18:58 Speaker 04 At what time. Even though I told him that it was okay every now and again.
1:19:01 Caleb Hammer? At what time.
1:19:02 Speaker 04 Random times throughout the night.
1:19:03 Caleb Hammer? Like at 2am he would just be slipping it in.
1:19:06 Speaker 03 Sometimes 2am sometimes noon where she's sleeping at noon.
1:19:10 Caleb Hammer? But permission.
1:19:10 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:19:11 Speaker 04 I did give him permission to do it sometimes.
1:19:13 Caleb Hammer? That's fun oh well did you define.
1:19:17 Speaker 03 It was not defined.
1:19:17 Caleb Hammer? And he was doing it every day.
1:19:19 Speaker 03 Almost every day.
1:19:19 Speaker 04 Almost every day.
1:19:22 Speaker 04 So my sleep schedule is.
1:19:23 Speaker 03 I told her I told her I'd rather stick it in than watch porn.
1:19:27 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, well, yes, but I mean, and that is a fun little kink thing. I mean, I get it. We all like to have fun. And as long as the permission is given, it sounds like you wanted it every day.
1:19:37 Speaker 03 I will admit, I did get over, I did go too much.
1:19:41 Caleb Hammer? Also, are you able to do it when she's not asleep too?
1:19:44 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:19:44 Caleb Hammer? Yeah.
1:19:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:19:45 Caleb Hammer? Just wanted to make sure it wasn't just that.
1:19:47 Speaker 03 No, it's, no, it's just.
1:19:49 Speaker 04 I have to be careful not to cry around him.
1:19:51 Caleb Hammer? He when you cry?
1:19:53 Speaker 04 He gets extremely turned on when I cry, so I can't cry around him.
1:19:59 Speaker 03 I can't explain it. Don't ask.
1:20:02 Caleb Hammer? No, that's weird, man.
1:20:03 Speaker 04 Please explain.
1:20:05 Speaker 03 I can't. I told you I can't.
1:20:07 Caleb Hammer? And every time you cry, you fuck?
1:20:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:10 Speaker 04 If he sees it, yeah.
1:20:12 Caleb Hammer? Are you're not, why don't you say no? Can you?
1:20:16 Speaker 04 I can, yes, but I already tell him no about a lot of other things, so.
1:20:22 Caleb Hammer? And he does those anyway?
1:20:23 Speaker 04 Steam games, apparently, yes.
1:20:25 Caleb Hammer? Oh, not sexual.
1:20:26 Speaker 03 Oh, sexual, no, I don't.
1:20:27 Caleb Hammer? You guys have like a free use situation, I'm hearing.
1:20:29 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:20:30 Caleb Hammer? That's fun. We like it. I'm a big fan. But, you know, as long as it's given, express consent.
1:20:36 Speaker 03 I told her whenever she wants to, she can, and vice versa.
1:20:39 Caleb Hammer? Well, I think, yeah, you were trying to get yourself permission, but yes, I don't think she's. Okay.
1:20:45 Speaker 03 She's touching my bones when I'm slept a couple of times.
1:20:48 Caleb Hammer? Oh, so you do it too?
1:20:50 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:20:51 Caleb Hammer? What it's worth, I mean, you're usually not hard while you're sleeping, but.
1:20:54 Speaker 03 Oh, no, I am sometimes.
1:20:57 Caleb Hammer? What is wrong with you?
1:20:58 Speaker 03 I don't.
1:20:58 Speaker 04 A lot of things.
1:21:00 Speaker 03 It's a, it's a longer, it's a shorter list of what's not wrong with me.
1:21:03 Caleb Hammer? Okay, who's not making their payment on their coastal community bank?
1:21:08 Speaker 03 What is that?
1:21:09 Caleb Hammer? Actually? You've been okay so far.
1:21:11 Speaker 04 Coastal community.
1:21:13 Speaker 03 I don't know what that is. It must, I think it's.
1:21:15 Speaker 04 The 125 balance.
1:21:17 Speaker 03 That must be a collections. I don't know what that is.
1:21:19 Caleb Hammer? This is credit karma, yes, but who has coastal community bank?
1:21:24 Speaker 04 I don't know.
1:21:26 Caleb Hammer? We don't even know who's
1:21:27 Speaker 03 The only
1:21:27 Caleb Hammer? Guys
1:21:28 Speaker 03 The only thing is I have
1:21:30 Caleb Hammer? Minimum payment 25 bucks, balance 125. Who knows that you purchased it on, but someone's late 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 months in a row. It's gonna go to collections.
1:21:39 Speaker 04 That's gotta be you.
1:21:39 Caleb Hammer? You want collections?
1:21:40 Speaker 03 Huh?
1:21:41 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:21:42 Speaker 04 Don't want collections.
1:21:43 Caleb Hammer? What did you say?
1:21:44 Speaker 04 I said it's probably him.
1:21:46 Speaker 03 I don't know what that, I don't
1:21:47 Speaker 04 But neither of us know, so we're not sure.
1:21:51 Speaker 03 Highest balance 600, balance 125.
1:21:54 Caleb Hammer? I don't even know what this one, we got another Coastal Community Bank. Uh, of $71, I don't even know the amount of payment, probably 25. So someone else has $75 in good standing with Coastal. And then what's TAB Sunbit?
1:22:08 Speaker 03 That is, uh, collections from back in like 2017.
1:22:11 Caleb Hammer? Yours?
1:22:12 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:22:12 Caleb Hammer? Bad.
1:22:14 Speaker 04 From 2018.
1:22:15 Speaker 03 2018.
1:22:16 Caleb Hammer? Hopefully it'll be falling off soon, we'll see. That's gonna [bleep] hammer financial score, [bleep] sick, what is this, Nelson?
1:22:21 Speaker 03 That is a car I had when my
1:22:23 Caleb Hammer? Close, repoed?
1:22:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, uh, voluntarily. When I lost my job, I voluntarily possessed it before I got late.
1:22:29 Caleb Hammer? What could you thinking volunteer is so good?
1:22:33 Speaker 04 We know neither of them are good, but that was better than the alternative.
1:22:38 Speaker 03 I got that car when I had my job and when I lost my job, I voluntarily possessed it before it went late. And we couldn't
1:22:45 Caleb Hammer? $8,154.
1:22:47 Speaker 03 Out of the, I think it was 15,000 when I got the car.
1:22:51 Caleb Hammer? Kickoff, we already have Open Sky Citibank, I don't think we did this.
1:22:54 Speaker 03 That is my, uh, that was
1:22:56 Caleb Hammer? Also closed.
1:22:57 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:22:57 Caleb Hammer? Click. Man, so you're just a collections guy?
1:23:00 Speaker 03 Uh, when I lost my job, yeah, when I was unemployed for six months.
1:23:03 Caleb Hammer? Why didn't you file for unemployment then?
1:23:05 Speaker 03 I couldn't because I, uh, quit.
1:23:08 Caleb Hammer? Oh, [bleep] retard. Wait, I thought you said you
1:23:12 Speaker 03 Um, it was a mutual between me and the job. Um, I put in my
1:23:17 Caleb Hammer? I thought you got laid off because you were gone for the surgery.
1:23:21 Speaker 03 No.
1:23:22 Caleb Hammer? Community College, past due 1,200, for what asshole?
1:23:26 Speaker 03 That's my college, that is the best balance that my job is supposed to pay for.
1:23:31 Caleb Hammer? Are they going to, because it is past due? $1,231.16, which is the balance, but it's also past due. Are they gonna pay for it, or?
1:23:42 Speaker 03 They're supposed to, if they
1:23:43 Caleb Hammer? Well, are they going to?
1:23:45 Speaker 03 They're supposed to.
1:23:46 Caleb Hammer? Oh, you have a kickoff in collections, fine.
1:23:49 Caleb Hammer? Okay, who has $3,168 in federal student loans?
1:23:52 Speaker 03 Me.
1:23:53 Caleb Hammer? Oh wait, no, there's probably gonna be more, right? Or is it just that?
1:23:56 Speaker 03 There's two. There's a subsidized and unsubsidized.
1:23:58 Caleb Hammer? For what? Is this for ongoing right now?
1:24:00 Speaker 03 It's for dive school.
1:24:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, from his dive school.
1:24:04 Caleb Hammer? What were you gonna do with dive school?
1:24:05 Speaker 04 Underwater welding and hazmat.
1:24:09 Speaker 03 And uh...
1:24:09 Caleb Hammer? But you're a fat...
1:24:11 Speaker 03 I was 235 pounds when I went to dive school.
1:24:13 Caleb Hammer? Does that mean you're fat or not? I don't know. What's... how tall are you?
1:24:16 Speaker 03 I am now, back then I was not.
1:24:17 Caleb Hammer? How tall are you?
1:24:18 Speaker 03 6'2".
1:24:19 Caleb Hammer? I mean, it's probably a little overweight, but, okay. 3,000... uh, okay, student loans. You're in school now, so you don't have to pay on these.
1:24:27 Speaker 03 Uh, those are for... those are dive school, those I do have to pay.
1:24:30 Caleb Hammer? Why? Tell them you're in school.
1:24:31 Speaker 03 They know I'm in school.
1:24:32 Caleb Hammer? What? What kind of school are you in?
1:24:34 Speaker 03 Uh, online college.
1:24:35 Caleb Hammer? No, you would not have to pay. Is it a certification?
1:24:39 Speaker 03 Uh, yes.
1:24:40 Caleb Hammer? Oh, there you go. Yeah, probably. 5,016 dollars, what's your monthly payment to student loans?
1:24:46 Speaker 03 It is, for the both of them, $50, 25 each.
1:24:50 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my fuck, okay. Okay, good. Looks like that's it. Check in the account. $0!
1:24:57 Speaker 04 That's it.
1:24:58 Caleb Hammer? And yet we're still steamed, Whataburger. Pick the worst burger there is, literally. Taco Bell! He went inside, got some bullshit. Clash of Clans you're paying for?
1:25:08 Speaker 03 I did that once.
1:25:08 Caleb Hammer? Hey, you suck other guys' dicks.
1:25:10 Speaker 03 I did, I did that once.
1:25:12 Speaker 04 Clash of Clans? Really?
1:25:14 Speaker 03 Yeah. Sean and I started playing together.
1:25:18 Caleb Hammer? And she's playing with the Sean as well?
1:25:20 Speaker 03 The Sean? No.
1:25:21 Caleb Hammer? They're just playing around.
1:25:22 Speaker 04 Coworker.
1:25:24 Caleb Hammer? See?
1:25:25 Speaker 03 Wait, what?
1:25:26 Speaker 04 I'm not...
1:25:29 Speaker 04 Not playing.
1:25:30 Caleb Hammer? When I make a joke and she confirms it?
1:25:33 Speaker 04 She said Sean. He said Sean. I said coworker.
1:25:37 Speaker 03 No, Sean.
1:25:38 Speaker 04 That... he said Sean. That's Seanny.
1:25:43 Caleb Hammer? When is I got some bullshit, got some bullshit, donuts, crunchy roll, Taco Bell, McDonald's, bullshit, steam purchases, no, the Walmart's not groceries, they don't do groceries, Amazon, Taco Bell, bolster, when it got some bullshit, poly buzz chat?
1:25:58 Speaker 03 AI.
1:26:00 Speaker 04 You're paying for AI?
1:26:03 Speaker 03 What?
1:26:03 Speaker 04 You're paying for AI?
1:26:05 Caleb Hammer? Well, that's okay if it's a tool for work, but you just grill things. So I don't.
1:26:09 Speaker 03 But I use it for, uh, bullshit.
1:26:14 Caleb Hammer? Pull it up.
1:26:15 Speaker 03 I deleted it.
1:26:16 Caleb Hammer? Well, what do you do with poly chat? I don't know what this is, poly buzz chat. Never heard of it.
1:26:20 Speaker 03 Um, it's, it's like random role play. There's a different, uh, role play for AI.
1:26:27 Caleb Hammer? He's gooning with AI.
1:26:29 Speaker 03 No, it's.
1:26:30 Caleb Hammer? It's role play.
1:26:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, like D and D type role play.
1:26:33 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
1:26:33 Speaker 03 You can goon, but I didn't use it.
1:26:35 Caleb Hammer? Look at you the two times a day are.
1:26:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:26:38 Caleb Hammer? No way you're not. Taco Bell bullshit, Amazon, McDonald's, Starbucks, bullshit, bullshit, Lopez girls, DoorDash, Dave, you're using Dave?
1:26:49 Speaker 03 I am.
1:26:49 Caleb Hammer? Me, Amazon's theme purchase, Discord Nitro, Taco Bell, bullshit, bullshit, donuts, evolution cigars, Chili's bullshit, DoorDash, Snapchat paying for Snapchat, DoorDash.
1:27:07 Speaker 03 I paid.
1:27:08 Caleb Hammer? cigars, bullshit.
1:27:09 Speaker 03 It's two dollars just to restore our streak.
1:27:11 Caleb Hammer? Surprise, you don't have.
1:27:14 Caleb Hammer? Overdrafts. Is this yours?
1:27:16 Speaker 04 Yes.
1:27:17 Caleb Hammer? A hundred seventy one, not much better, Amazon, IHOP bullshit, Del Taco, Minnesota Woodlands, Broadway liquor. It's a lot of liquor.
1:27:26 Speaker 03 She bought that for me for Christmas.
1:27:27 Speaker 04 Christmas present.
1:27:29 Caleb Hammer? Liquor?
1:27:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, she bought me eight, six bottles of Jim Bean.
1:27:36 Caleb Hammer? Wrong with you guys, man. You guys are weird. Tattoos.
1:27:41 Caleb Hammer? Do you have tattoos?
1:27:42 Speaker 03 There's that piercing.
1:27:43 Speaker 04 Oh, that was for my nose piercing.
1:27:45 Caleb Hammer? Bullshit Blizzard Hello Candy bullshit Arby's. Well, you're spending a lot of money on Blizzard 15 bucks there. Arby's McDonald's, Amazon Hulu, Lynn Cuisine Chinese, Pokemon Go, Starbucks Taco Bell, IHOP. And I've charged something food bullshit McDonald's McDonald's Starbucks Taco Bell bullshit. Prime video premium.
1:28:09 Speaker 04 See all the payments to all my loans.
1:28:12 Caleb Hammer? Doesn't matter. You may you were late on some and you're only making minimums on others. Shut the up. Starbucks DoorDash cases. You can't pay rent and you're borrowing to pay for utilities. Go yourself. And you're not going to make society feel bad for you anymore. And once I actually dive into the spending, this is what happens every time for everyone that pretends they're like a financial victim. No, you're not. You just around. Taco Bell Little C's is going into bullshit Taco Bell McDonald's going into bullshit DoorDash over traffic is twice already this year. Thank you.
1:28:41 Caleb Hammer? You all for Taco Bell. You guys are a joke.
1:28:43 Speaker 04 The overdrafts weren't for Taco Bell.
1:28:46 Caleb Hammer? Yes, it was because it was still in your purchase history. It all comes down to it in the end. Okay, income.
1:28:53 Speaker 03 I didn't know she overdrafts on her account.
1:28:54 Caleb Hammer? Well, she does. And yet you're with her, even though she fucks other guys dicks.
1:29:01 Speaker 03 I don't remember that.
1:29:04 Speaker 04 When you paid one of the utilities with my card, it didn't show up on my account until Monday. And then it overdrafted my account by $10.
1:29:14 Caleb Hammer? Total income for the house, $3,430.
1:29:20 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, I'm sorry. Keep going. Clarify to each other while I add this up.
1:29:24 Speaker 03 Wouldn't hurt. The utility went negative. I think we I Door dashed and put the money in their account to pay for it to come out of negative.
1:29:33 Caleb Hammer? No car payments here?
1:29:34 Speaker 03 We should have two car payments.
1:29:36 Caleb Hammer? Oh my, but I didn't get them.
1:29:40 Speaker 03 Uh, I think, oh.
1:29:43 Caleb Hammer? So I got one of them. Did I miss it? Did I miss it? Oh, my. What is that?
1:29:49 Speaker 03 We have two cars.
1:29:49 Caleb Hammer? The balance.
1:29:50 Speaker 03 We have two cars.
1:29:51 Caleb Hammer? What's the balance?
1:29:52 Speaker 03 One is 14,000. The other one is 13,000.
1:29:56 Caleb Hammer? What's the minimum monthly payment for the 14?
1:29:58 Speaker 03 Uh, 540 a month.
1:30:01 Caleb Hammer? 540?
1:30:02 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:30:02 Caleb Hammer? And for the 13,000?
1:30:03 Speaker 03 440. For three years.
1:30:07 Caleb Hammer? What's the interest rates on these? Eighteen. Eighteen.
1:30:15 Caleb Hammer? Alright.
1:30:17 Caleb Hammer? Good luck! $1,868.51 is your new monthly payments. Eight hundred dollar rent.
1:30:26 Caleb Hammer? What's your utilities and internet combined?
1:30:30 Speaker 03 Water is 120 a month, electric is 150 a month, gas is 90 a month.
1:30:36 Caleb Hammer? And internet?
1:30:37 Speaker 03 Internet is 50 a month.
1:30:40 Caleb Hammer? 410 for utilities, that's crazy. Phone bill?
1:30:43 Speaker 03 150.
1:30:45 Caleb Hammer? Use helium, it's cheaper, 50 bucks a line, T-Mobile's good there, I'm sure it is in Tulsa. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive?
1:30:53 Speaker 03 200 a month.
1:30:54 Caleb Hammer? For both?
1:30:54 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:30:55 Caleb Hammer? Car insurance?
1:30:57 Speaker 03 350. It used to be 450.
1:30:59 Caleb Hammer? Grocery, 600 meal prep, warm up, it's easy, it's chill, I don't give a [bleep] on the stove top, put in the fridge, use the microwave, I don't give a shit, use our meal plan and our budget-friendly cookbook assholes. 200 dollars for TP phone, tampons, anything else you need, new socks, whatever it is that pops up. Are there copays, medical payments, on a monthly basis?
1:31:17 Speaker 03 On a monthly basis, no.
1:31:19 Caleb Hammer? Gym?
1:31:19 Speaker 03 No.
1:31:21 Caleb Hammer? Subscriptions, I'll try 40 bucks, games and shit, pet insurance, you got pets?
1:31:27 Speaker 03 One.
1:31:28 Caleb Hammer? Why, you already got rid of, what do you have? A cat. Okay, 50 dollars for pet insurance, how much for pet food?
1:31:34 Speaker 03 Forty a month at most.
1:31:35 Caleb Hammer? Cats are cheap.
1:31:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:31:36 Caleb Hammer? Anything else you need in this budget before I say go [bleep] stuff, because there's no way this is gonna work?
1:31:42 Speaker 03 I believe that's everything.
1:31:47 Caleb Hammer? $4,708.51, you're not getting a house, I don't know what the [bleep] you guys are talking about, you're already underwater, this makes no sense, and you suck other guys dicks, it's like, what are we doing? $1,278.51 under, like, maybe she needs to start the OnlyFans, no, not really, I would never advocate for that, unless you really want to. What the [bleep] is going on here assholes? What the [bleep] are we doing? What a joke! You need to go through the certification to cook as possible, and I'll get you a Coors Crisps one, like I said, on top of it. Get into cybersecurity. Do not increase your lifestyle and pay off all this debt. Change your behavior, maybe go through bankruptcy and you need to figure out something for your fucking career. I'll also get you a course career certification.
1:32:27 Speaker 03 Uh huh.
1:32:27 Caleb Hammer? This is income and you guys have gone beyond debt, beyond debt. You'll never fix this and I don't know how you're not homeless. You might need to move in with family. I don't know, guys. You need to improve your careers, make more money than pay off this shit. There's no way you're going to do it now. Bankruptcy is likely in the future. This is, this is fucked. I need to do your hammer financial score, but join us for the post show, guys. Um, I guess I missed another debt. Oh, we'll figure that out in the post show. Me. Oh, the car loans are new as well. I'm going to go through their text. Oh, there's some friends debts. Oh my, there's so much, there's so much. Oh my goodness. We'll go into that in the post show. Click the join button. Hammer financial score, spending in a budget, overspend, zero out of 10 debt. There's collections, zero out of 10 emergency fund, there's zero dollars.
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1:33:27 Speaker 03 Uh oh.
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