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0:58 Caleb Hammer? To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. You don't even know, you didn't even know how much debt you have.
1:04 Speaker 03 I know I have an eviction on my name. Is that not on there?
1:08 Caleb Hammer? You are an adult with a child. They're saying he pays the entire rent.
1:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's like 1,100 bucks.
1:13 Caleb Hammer? That's huge!
1:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I don't pay it.
1:16 Caleb Hammer? Exactly. Does he know your entire financial situation?
1:19 Speaker 03 Not necessarily.
1:21 Caleb Hammer? That's stupid. You have a child. That is selfish. That is disgusting. Financial Audit Live in Austin, Texas on February 22nd. Go to CalebHammer.com/live or check out the link in the description below.
1:32 Speaker 03 Hi, I'm Amber. I'm 25. I'm based out of Sulphur Springs, Texas, and this is Financial Audit.
1:39 Caleb Hammer? Thanks for coming over to Austin. Happy to have you here. What do you do in Sulphur Springs? Sounds like the most pleasant place to live.
1:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, so, super great. I'm a nail tech. I've been doing nails for about two and a half years. Oh, they-
1:53 Caleb Hammer? Up, up, up into the camera.
1:56 Speaker 03 They're not done.
1:56 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Interesting.
1:58 Speaker 03 So with my son- Yeah, I don't do my nails because I have my son and, um-
2:04 Caleb Hammer? What?
2:05 Speaker 03 I have my son, so I don't want to like, you know, scratch him.
2:09 Caleb Hammer? My mom has her nails done. What do you mean you have your son? What does that mean?
2:13 Speaker 03 He's a baby, so I don't want to scratch him changing diapers and changing clothes and-
2:17 Caleb Hammer? How old is this little-
2:18 Speaker 03 He just turned six months yesterday.
2:20 Caleb Hammer? Whoa, okay.
2:23 Caleb Hammer? Well, that actually screams interesting. I had notes that I was scanning before this. There was this note here. That she thinks her father's child needs this show more than she does. What the does that even mean? She thinks her father's child needs to show more than she does.
2:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, so I
2:40 Caleb Hammer? I'm confused what that means. Her father's child, as in?
2:44 Speaker 03 My baby daddy.
2:45 Caleb Hammer? Who's father's child?
2:47 Speaker 03 Like my baby dad, my baby daddy needs this show more than me.
2:50 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, that read incorrect. Your child's father?
2:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, my child's father needs, probably needs to show more than me.
2:58 Caleb Hammer? About him. Wait a minute, is, are you guys like together?
3:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, so we're engaged. We've been engaged, we've been engaged for like maybe
3:06 Caleb Hammer? Where's he?
3:06 Speaker 03 He is on the road. He is a, he owns his own hot shotting company.
3:10 Caleb Hammer? I feel like this would have been a pretty good conversation to have as an engaged couple.
3:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, I definitely tried my hardest to do that. He was not having it.
3:18 Caleb Hammer? Vroom, vroom, driving, driving everywhere.
3:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, gotta make that money.
3:21 Caleb Hammer? Cool. So you guys have a kid together engaged? How long have you guys been together?
3:25 Speaker 03 Uh, we've been together a total of like six, almost six years now. We've been engaged for like
3:29 Caleb Hammer? Very good.
3:30 Speaker 03 Two years, two and a half.
3:32 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so nail tech with a new kid, pretty much. I mean, six months, basically new, fresh off the assembly line. What are you making?
3:43 Speaker 03 Um, I, I try to average, um, at least like
3:48 Caleb Hammer? Try to average. Do you average? What do you actually average?
3:51 Speaker 03 Okay, so I would say actually average, um, probably like eight hundred a week.
3:57 Caleb Hammer? Are you employed?
3:58 Speaker 03 So, no, I'm like an independent, like party, basically. Like I, I ran a suite out of a salon.
4:05 Caleb Hammer? Which is fine, eight hundred a week. Are we saying fifty weeks a year? Fifty-two? Every week?
4:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:10 Caleb Hammer? Every week. You're working the week of Christmas and everything.
4:13 Speaker 03 I take like Christmas Eve and Christmas Day off, but other than that.
4:17 Caleb Hammer? Well, this is call fifty one, be conservative, eight hundred a week. You try to average. So forty thousand eight hundred dollars a year.
4:23 Speaker 03 Ri- roughly.
4:24 Caleb Hammer? Okay, uh, about three thousand four hundred dollars a month. Now, of course, that means we're setting about a thousand two hundred aside. Sorry, a thousand twenty aside for taxes because you're your own business, right? Because you're not employed, correct?
4:38 Speaker 03 Not correct. No, I do not.
4:39 Caleb Hammer? You are employed.
4:40 Speaker 03 I'm I'm employed by myself, but like, I mean, I I'm supposed to be putting taxes back, but I do not do that.
4:47 Caleb Hammer? Financial auto bingo. Here we go. Okay, so why the possible? Uh. Are you not setting money aside for taxes?
4:54 Speaker 03 I feel like I can just come up with it later on, whenever like I do my taxes and like it needs to be done.
5:00 Caleb Hammer? Yeah.
5:00 Speaker 03 I'll just like grab it out of thin air and be like.
5:02 Caleb Hammer? So taxes are gonna be due here soon. You have enough saved up in savings.
5:06 Speaker 03 No.
5:07 Caleb Hammer? Okay, where's thin air? I don't see that air being very thin around you right now.
5:10 Speaker 03 I'm just hoping and praying they like let me do like a payment plan with it, so I can.
5:14 Caleb Hammer? That's good. Okay, what about last year's taxes?
5:16 Speaker 03 No, not done. My sister is.
5:18 Caleb Hammer? Wouldn't you have pulled that out of thin air according to your logic? According to the logic of Amber, thin air Amber.
5:26 Speaker 03 So my sister is a CPA, um, and so I had talked to her about like how much roughly it would have been for me to do my taxes. And, um, I was, she, I was told about thirty five hundred, but I like I'd have to pay in for my like self employment tax and all that kind of stuff.
5:44 Caleb Hammer? Just self employment tax or all taxes combined?
5:46 Speaker 03 Um, self employment tax alone is what she told me. Um, she did not do like everything, so I could see exactly how much it would be, but that alone, like that number alone.
5:56 Caleb Hammer? For this year or last year?
5:57 Speaker 03 For last year.
5:58 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so if you, if it's been that much, why haven't you done that?
6:03 Speaker 03 I ha-
6:04 Caleb Hammer? We have to do that. It's Mr. Soder's fun fact little thing.
6:06 Speaker 03 Right, right, right.
6:07 Caleb Hammer? Red, white and blue area?
6:08 Speaker 03 But I was having a baby, so I was just like, I'll deal with that as it comes.
6:12 Caleb Hammer? Government's kind of soulless. I don't think they care.
6:14 Speaker 03 Uh, that's also true, but at the same time I was like, I don't have this now.
6:18 Caleb Hammer? Pregnant at the point, you didn't have the baby. So you're like, when taxes were, last time babies been. here for six months and you could have been preparing for it the entire way when you're un-pregnant and getting pregnant fine.
6:29 Speaker 03 But I was like, I don't get a paid maternity leave. Like I have to make my own.
6:32 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, congratulations. You're a business owner. There are things that come with it. You take the rest, but you get the reward as well. If things go well. So let's not complain about that.
6:39 Speaker 03 Right. Not complain, but I mean, at the time, it just wasn't important to worry about taxes whenever I have a baby coming and I want my time off.
6:47 Caleb Hammer? I'm a little confused why that means we do not pay taxes.
6:52 Speaker 03 I just felt like it wasn't important at the moment.
6:57 Caleb Hammer? Yeah. Is it gonna be funny to lose your business? What are you talking about?
6:59 Speaker 03 It's not, but I definitely.
7:01 Caleb Hammer? Audit is gonna be funny to pay a massive penalty, like a 10% extra thing in taxes. I don't think that's something we can do if we're not able to pay this year's taxes, let alone last year. I don't think we can accept the penalty.
7:10 Speaker 03 No, we can't, but it's kind of too far gone at this point. Like it's too late. I mean, I'm gonna get probably penalized.
7:18 Caleb Hammer? Why you didn't do it, though?
7:19 Speaker 03 Because.
7:20 Caleb Hammer? And it wasn't just because I had a kid because that was six months ago. You still had the entire time of 2022 to prepare for the taxes. Or sorry, the year of 2023 to prepare for those taxes and you didn't.
7:31 Speaker 03 No, I did not. I um felt like I didn't have enough money to put back to worry about those because I was using majority, like the all the money that I was making, like, but like not even thinking about taxes. I was using all of that money to either like pay for things.
7:48 Caleb Hammer? What's pay for things?
7:49 Speaker 03 Just like bills, like utilities, things like that, groceries. Like I was coming out like almost negative at the end of the week after all the things that I buy like.
7:59 Caleb Hammer? Then your lifestyle was too high. You had a place you couldn't afford or your business is a non-functioning business.
8:05 Speaker 03 Right.
8:06 Caleb Hammer? In the world of mathematics, at least.
8:07 Speaker 03 Right.
8:08 Caleb Hammer? Why is your business so nail business? I'm not like the most informed on it. I bite my nails. I'm a naughty little guy. Okay. So what does a normal nails business bring in?
8:18 Speaker 03 Um, I'm actually. The busiest, most booked person in Sulfur Springs.
8:23 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, this makes no sense then, because that's not a lot of money for the most successful business in the city. In that category, then, so that means that category is not a good category for that area. Maybe there's not enough market demand, maybe you're not charging the right prices.
8:35 Speaker 03 At the time, I was not charging the right prices.
8:38 Caleb Hammer? Come on, and we see the money that's coming in now, at the time is right now, you're still not bringing in enough for what's considered the most successful business. In your town of a certain category, isn't if you're a mid-level, lower level, I would say, okay, that makes sense. But if we're talking the entire city.
8:52 Speaker 03 But I also cut back my.
8:53 Caleb Hammer? Successful.
8:54 Speaker 03 I cut back my hours a ton after I had my son.
8:56 Caleb Hammer? Okay, cool, we're talking now. Have you still cut back your hours a ton?
9:00 Speaker 03 So I was working before I had him, I was working like six days a week.
9:03 Caleb Hammer? Wonderful, so then you had enough money to pay all your bills and be able to pay the taxes then, so that logic starts to fall apart.
9:09 Speaker 03 So like whenever tax, income tax time like came in, like this past February, whenever like things had to be paid off.
9:15 Caleb Hammer? Why didn't you even file, though? Why didn't you even file? Why didn't you even file? Why didn't you even file? And say, I cannot pay this and file an extension, you can file extensions?
9:25 Speaker 03 I kept on coming up with excuses to not do it.
9:28 Caleb Hammer? But that doesn't make any sense, your extension would have been due a month ago, like you would have had a long time to come up with the money.
9:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I really didn't think about it or consider it.
9:36 Caleb Hammer? You have a CPA relative.
9:37 Speaker 03 Right. And she does get on my ass about doing my taxes.
9:42 Caleb Hammer? Then why aren't you being responsible? You have a child, you want to fill this up before they have a chance to start gaining memories? You want them to live in a world where they have no sense of security? That's not fair to them, then you have to pay taxes, these are basic minimum responsibilities as a business owner, fun fact. And trust me, it's not fun to cut that check, I cut that check, it hurt, it sucked, it could have gone to a lot of growth in the business.
10:03 Speaker 03 I mean, yeah, but.
10:05 Caleb Hammer? Yet do it, because it is what it is, was what it is, is what it is.
10:10 Speaker 03 I mean, it's going to get done eventually.
10:12 Caleb Hammer? And last year's taxes haven't been paid, and this year's are about to have to be paid.
10:15 Speaker 03 Right, I was hoping having a baby was like gonna help level out and balance like some of that.
10:21 Caleb Hammer? Go on.
10:22 Speaker 03 You know, income taxes and people get paid for it.
10:24 Caleb Hammer? A lot of child tax credits.
10:26 Speaker 03 Right. Yeah, so I was hoping like that was going to help me.
10:30 Caleb Hammer? Years, but with the full, well, I don't know how much you're able to, like, I'm sure you get supplies and some things in the rent, you can start deducting some things. Uh, maybe some stuff is also a write-off, who knows, but either way. Even with the income that is coming in that you're spending on other things with the child tax credit.
10:49 Caleb Hammer? Tax situation might change next year, actually, but we'll see. That'll be curious to see. Either way, with you having to take care of self-employment and income and, you know, all, just pretty much every tax that comes with your situation versus just being a W2 employee, would it have fully covered at your income scale? Potentially. We don't know yet, but you also won't know until you file. And what do you mean? I, I'm a little confused how having a kid this year would have changed 2023's taxes. So what, what does that even entail? So?
11:18 Speaker 03 I think that I just didn't think it was.
11:22 Speaker 03 I don't wanna say it's like, I didn't think it was that big of a deal, but at the time it wasn't.
11:25 Caleb Hammer? Though, I'm sorry for interrupting. I just, why do you have that thought? Like, and where do you think it's not a big deal? What do you think is a big deal then? Because this is a very, very dangerous thought to have as a business owner.
11:35 Speaker 03 Like, my first year, I didn't make a ton of money. I wanna say, like, on paper, I technically showed I made about 20,000.
11:41 Caleb Hammer? Pause. When was your first year?
11:43 Speaker 03 Um, it was 20, hold on. Were in 24? So 2022 would have been, and I was like, well, I didn't make that much money. So like, maybe I'll have time next time when the, like, I have to do it again for me to worry about that at the time.
11:59 Caleb Hammer? 2022's taxes?
12:02 Speaker 03 Did I?
12:05 Speaker 03 No, did not. I did not.
12:07 Caleb Hammer? Oh, for sake, when was the last time you've paid taxes?
12:10 Speaker 03 So, the last time I had, like, a job, which was, um. Okay, no, I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm lying. So 2022 was the last year that I, like, actually worked. I did file income tax 2023 year for 2022 because I went to school and I paid.
12:29 Caleb Hammer? This job in 2022 as well?
12:31 Speaker 03 So I was working that part-time. Like, I was doing that part-time, but I was working like a.
12:34 Caleb Hammer? Did you file? Did you claim that income?
12:36 Speaker 03 Um, I couldn't technically because I was not licensed, so I couldn't be, like, chock.
12:40 Caleb Hammer? So you were illegal. You were in a legal business?
12:43 Speaker 03 So I was, I was waiting on.
12:45 Caleb Hammer? Is this out of your house?
12:46 Speaker 03 No, no, no. It's at, like, it's at a shop, like, at an L shop. I mean, I mean, it's at a hair salon.
12:51 Caleb Hammer? That rent?
12:52 Speaker 03 So the rent there is a hundred dollars a week.
12:55 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my. We live in different towns.
12:57 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, for sure.
12:59 Caleb Hammer? If you heard the rent on the place we're looking at moving to.
13:02 Speaker 03 I mean, I'm getting like a, I have like a small room inside the shop.
13:05 Caleb Hammer? How big?
13:06 Speaker 03 Um.
13:06 Caleb Hammer? Compared to this room?
13:08 Speaker 03 Probably, I mean, it's definitely like, like a fourth of this, probably.
13:13 Caleb Hammer? Oh, this is a closet. It's a literal closet.
13:16 Speaker 03 Um, not necessarily, but yes, it's definitely a small.
13:19 Caleb Hammer? It's a closet size.
13:20 Speaker 03 Right. It was like a typical, like a, it was like a storage room at one point that they changed it into like my new room.
13:26 Caleb Hammer? Good, cuz that's, I, I, I would have been very concerned. So you got about four hundred hours a month in rent?
13:30 Speaker 03 Right.
13:31 Caleb Hammer? Okay, I would have been concerned if it was much higher, cuz really, what we're dealing with here, it's like you got everything to be pretty locked down for any kind of margins.
13:40 Speaker 03 Right. So, and I'm not, I mean, I think my biggest thing is I just need to make more money, but I also need my kid to be.
13:47 Caleb Hammer? That's what everyone says. Everyone thinks they need to make more money. You don't think it has to do with behavior. Why is there a lot of debt in front of me? What's happening?
13:53 Speaker 03 Um, I did get into a lot of credit card debt over the last like year, I would say.
13:59 Caleb Hammer? Year, okay.
14:00 Speaker 03 Um, that's where majority of my debt is at and.
14:04 Caleb Hammer? What year? Why?
14:05 Speaker 03 So like twenty twenty four.
14:06 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but why?
14:07 Speaker 03 Um, because if I just didn't have, like I was, I but got the credit cards to build my credit because it was like in the sh- From.
14:16 Caleb Hammer? Why was it in the sh-
14:17 Speaker 03 So I had an ex a few years ago that.
14:21 Caleb Hammer? A few years ago? You've been with this guy for six years. We're talking past beyond that?
14:23 Speaker 03 Before then, before then.
14:25 Caleb Hammer? Eighteen?
14:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, so he helped me build my credit up. Like he was working with me to build my credit up. We were looking at like potentially gonna buy a home, um, get vehi- get a vehicle in my own name. And he is a felon, so he actually had my social security number that he took and took out loans in my name to pay off parole fines.
14:46 Caleb Hammer? So, did you even know?
14:47 Speaker 03 I did not know until it had hit my credit. Um, about a, about a, about a year after, cuz he paid on it for a little bit and then he just stopped paying on it.
14:57 Caleb Hammer? Oh, you mean when delinquents hit your credit? Is that what you mean?
15:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:01 Caleb Hammer? Not the credit actually being reported?
15:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. Cause like I didn't pay attention to my credit card at the time. Cause I was like, well, I have, I have a credit card. I make, I make the payments on it. Like I'm never like over the limit. I'm never late on my payments. I was like, it's not that big of a deal until I get like a notification. So and so like hits your credit.
15:18 Caleb Hammer? Hold on. Your finances are be clear.
15:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:22 Caleb Hammer? A lot of it just to build credit, apparently, even though now we have cards that aren't, you know, you're not able to pay off. So we destroyed ourselves there. But one of the opening things here in this conversation was, No, the person that needs it's my fiance. So are you?
15:34 Speaker 03 We both need it.
15:35 Caleb Hammer? Are you, are you with someone with worse finances than you?
15:39 Speaker 03 Not necessarily. I mean, he doesn't have a lot of credit card debt.
15:41 Caleb Hammer? Then why was the note that you specifically told our producers is that he needs it more than you?
15:46 Speaker 03 Because I feel like he doesn't, um.
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16:46 Speaker 03 Um, I feel like he doesn't, not necessarily budget the way he's supposed to, but he has like two vehicles. I don't know. I have attempted to in the past and I just can't.
16:56 Caleb Hammer? What are you doing? What kind of deflections that?
16:59 Speaker 03 I mean, I think he just has more like overall debt as far as like vehicles. So.
17:03 Caleb Hammer? Do you even know? Do you know his financial situation?
17:07 Speaker 03 Kind of, yeah.
17:08 Caleb Hammer? Kind of? What is kind of? Yeah.
17:10 Speaker 03 So like, I'm not like totally in on everything. Like we don't share bank accounts. Like I don't look.
17:14 Caleb Hammer? Do you know his entire debt situation and financial situation?
17:19 Speaker 03 It just
17:19 Caleb Hammer? You're engaged and you don't know what he's bringing into this? Does he know your entire financial situation?
17:25 Speaker 03 Not necessarily.
17:26 Caleb Hammer? Why? Why are we not talking about this? You want to get in a situation again?
17:28 Speaker 03 I think he's
17:29 Caleb Hammer? With Mr. Fallon? You want that on repeat?
17:30 Speaker 03 No, I think a lot of it is he's had past like relationships that they they just never they've just never done that.
17:38 Caleb Hammer? Has he had past marriages?
17:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:40 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
17:41 Speaker 03 He is thirty three.
17:42 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
17:42 Speaker 03 And I, yeah, so it's like a nine year age gap between us.
17:45 Caleb Hammer? I don't care eight, but
17:46 Speaker 03 Or eight, yeah.
17:48 Caleb Hammer? But I don't care about that, but his past marriage obviously didn't work.
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18:21 Speaker 03 No.
18:21 Caleb Hammer? And they didn't share finances?
18:23 Speaker 03 I'm assuming no, I mean, he's
18:24 Caleb Hammer? And finances are one of the leading causes for divorce in this country, so maybe that was a situation that didn't work. Maybe he should try something a little different if there was a marriage that failed. So maybe you guys should probably share finances?
18:34 Speaker 03 Definitely tried to be like, I need to be on the same page as you because like
18:38 Caleb Hammer? What does that look like?
18:39 Speaker 03 I usually don't know information as far as like, um, potentially like bill situation until it's like too late for me to try to like rectify anything. Like if something is late, like I won't know about it until it's almost too far gone for me to like try to potentially help.
18:56 Caleb Hammer? On his end?
18:56 Speaker 03 Because he feels like he he needs to take care of everything and he doesn't need help.
19:01 Caleb Hammer? Is he not able to be a partner? So you know what the word partner means?
19:05 Speaker 03 So I think that he
19:06 Caleb Hammer? Do you know what a marriage is?
19:08 Speaker 03 So didn't have the best, um, situation growing up, like as far as like what marriage looks like, um, and I think
19:14 Caleb Hammer? So he should probably try to do the opposite then.
19:16 Speaker 03 Right. Um, and I've tried to talk to him about that and be like, listen, like I need to know like what is going on.
19:21 Caleb Hammer? And you're willing to go through with this marriage because that's that's what I'm trying to call out here is you're willing to go through with this.
19:26 Speaker 03 It's something that we've we have been working on. So more recently, he has been letting know a little bit more about this financial situation. I would say within the last like maybe like month.
19:34 Caleb Hammer? When's the marriage?
19:36 Speaker 03 We have nothing said.
19:37 Caleb Hammer? How long have you been engaged again?
19:39 Speaker 03 Two and a half years.
19:39 Caleb Hammer? Oh, wow. That's a long time to work on.
19:43 Speaker 03 So, I mean,
19:44 Caleb Hammer? You jumped the gun on the kid without knowing
19:47 Speaker 03 Completely accident.
19:48 Caleb Hammer? Your entire situation is like.
19:49 Speaker 03 Completely accident, yeah.
19:51 Caleb Hammer? Hmm, rubber, yes.
19:52 Speaker 03 Should have, yeah.
19:54 Caleb Hammer? Well, self-assessed. Where do you think your finances are? One, zero being the absolute worst, ten being the absolute best. Where do you think your finances are?
20:01 Speaker 03 I would say probably three. It's definitely, I mean, I know I'm not like in a, like a crazy amount of debt as far as I go.
20:08 Caleb Hammer? Twenty-one thousand eight hundred nineteen dollars of debt for your income is pretty horrible. I don't know what you're talking, you don't even know, you didn't even know how much debt you have.
20:16 Speaker 03 I know I have an eviction on my name that was a lot of money. Is that not on there?
20:21 Caleb Hammer? I know there's a variety of collections. I didn't know that.
20:24 Speaker 03 That, one of the collections is an eviction.
20:26 Caleb Hammer? Know that?
20:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, one of the.
20:27 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so you didn't even know how much debt you have. So you're just trying to say that your debt's not that bad and you didn't even know what your debt number was?
20:34 Speaker 03 So I knew like credit card debt wise and like, like a loan for some gel polishes I took out was like roughly like six to eight thousand.
20:44 Caleb Hammer? What the?
20:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, swear. Did not know.
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21:06 Speaker 03 So sorry.
21:07 Caleb Hammer? But you're allowed to do that. Go to CalebHammer.com/apply. Okay, so you. We know what kind of came in. We had a gloss genius, also known as payroll, thousand dollars. Then we win. You clarified this is payroll. I hear a noise of an infant. Oh, gosh, I am so sorry.
21:28 Speaker 03 He does like, he like, sounds like a dog toy. Sometimes he just like squeaks and screeches.
21:33 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, sounded like something dying. Okay, so Venmo in was seven hundred thirty one, Zaline in was six hundred seventy eight. Now I had a loan deposit gloss genius of two thousand. What does that mean?
21:43 Speaker 03 So with my, um, the app, the gloss genius app, like that's what I use for like booking appointments, processing payments, um, things like that. They do offer like small business loans.
21:55 Caleb Hammer? Well, what do you, what do, how, what do you mean by that? Hold on, what does that even, what do you mean?
22:00 Speaker 03 So like.
22:00 Caleb Hammer? Well, first of all, your income is not lining up with what you said comes in. First of all, this is like a thousand, two thousand so far, but what's this loan?
22:07 Speaker 03 That. So the, so the loan, like they allow you to take out a small business loan.
22:12 Caleb Hammer? You keep saying that, but.
22:13 Speaker 03 Through them, like, so the gloss genius.
22:16 Caleb Hammer? But for what? Again, it's more than your income so.
22:18 Speaker 03 So it was for a gel polish collection.
22:21 Caleb Hammer? Well, it was more than your income.
22:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I feel like if I had that, I could make more income because now I have more colors of gel polish than like literally anybody in my town.
22:35 Caleb Hammer? You're already winning the town and you don't make enough to survive.
22:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I felt like that would be like a selling point to raise my prices to like.
22:44 Caleb Hammer? What are your prices? What are your prices?
22:46 Speaker 03 So like, I, I know it's nothing compared to like this area's prices.
22:50 Caleb Hammer? Couldn't tell you.
22:51 Speaker 03 Right, so, um, like a, a solid color short set, like barely off the tip is like sixty bucks. And then like goes up from there. So.
23:02 Caleb Hammer? How long does that take you?
23:03 Speaker 03 About two hours.
23:05 Caleb Hammer? Oh, okay.
23:05 Speaker 03 Maybe.
23:06 Caleb Hammer? So thirty bucks an hour, which that inherently is not the bad thing, but I know we're included rent. We probably have to include utilities.
23:11 Speaker 03 No, just rent. Yeah.
23:13 Caleb Hammer? We probably have to include supplies, like the gloss collection.
23:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:18 Caleb Hammer? So what are you actually making more like twenty bucks an hour? And then how many hours?
23:23 Speaker 03 I honestly don't know how to, I, I've never broken it down.
23:27 Caleb Hammer? You never once have been doing this for two years and you haven't tried to figure out the cost of a.
23:30 Speaker 03 Like I said, no.
23:31 Caleb Hammer? How? How do you know you're even making money? Cause again, reminder, you've literally borrowed from your payroll thing. More than you brought in and they oh, okay. Well, I guess a little over two thousand came in. A little over two thousand came in.
23:45 Speaker 03 Right.
23:46 Caleb Hammer? So.
23:46 Speaker 03 That doesn't include, that doesn't include like cash either. So I don't deposit all my cash.
23:51 Caleb Hammer? How do we keep track of your cash? Where does your cash go? So I can't even track where your cash is going.
23:55 Speaker 03 I hate to, I hate to say it, girl math. It's.
23:58 Caleb Hammer? Oh, what are you trying to play bingo? Do you know that triggers everyone in this audience? Do you even know that?
24:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:05 Caleb Hammer? Then why is he that?
24:07 Speaker 03 Because it's true. I try to use up, like I use my cash.
24:11 Caleb Hammer? How much cash? Do you even know?
24:13 Speaker 03 Um, like monthly, I would say probably like seven hundred.
24:19 Caleb Hammer? That's substantial compared to how much actually came in via payroll in terms of your self assessed payroll.
24:25 Speaker 03 Like total over the month, yeah.
24:27 Caleb Hammer? Huge percentage of that and that just vanishes. So where? Tell me, girl math, where?
24:33 Speaker 03 I really don't know. Like I don't, yeah, I don't keep up with that.
24:37 Caleb Hammer? Then you can't do it. Then you're not responsible enough to have cash. That means you need to deposit your, you can track it on a spreadsheet.
24:43 Speaker 03 I probably should deposit it, yeah.
24:46 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
24:47 Speaker 03 And I just don't.
24:49 Caleb Hammer? Why?
24:50 Speaker 03 I just feel like that's just what I use first. Like I try to.
24:53 Caleb Hammer? On what though? But you don't know.
24:54 Speaker 03 I don't, I don't really even know what. Cause I'm like, I'm not a huge like eat out kind of person. I do use it a lot for groceries, honestly.
25:02 Caleb Hammer? Cash for groceries?
25:03 Speaker 03 Sometimes, yeah.
25:04 Caleb Hammer? A month of groceries?
25:05 Speaker 03 Uh, about two hundred bucks a week in groceries. I cook everything at home.
25:09 Caleb Hammer? Close.
25:10 Speaker 03 I usually like.
25:12 Caleb Hammer? No meal prepping.
25:13 Speaker 03 I, I make breakfast. No, I don't totally meal prep. Like I'm a crock pot girl. So like.
25:18 Caleb Hammer? You got a crock pot meal prep.
25:19 Speaker 03 He, I mean, kind of I do. Like, so I do like one crock pot meal. We'll do like two days, like feed us for two days.
25:27 Caleb Hammer? Then I think we could cut those costs low, especially since the kid is the kid on tears, the kid on powder.
25:32 Speaker 03 He's on.
25:32 Caleb Hammer? All t keep.
25:34 Speaker 03 Yeah. Free, free ninety-nine, actually.
25:36 Caleb Hammer? Exactly.
25:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:38 Caleb Hammer? So I think you're.
25:39 Speaker 03 And I think, but like also I do.
25:41 Caleb Hammer? And then the, the, the dude man who's too afraid to be here, he's on the road, so he's not eating your food.
25:46 Speaker 03 Right, yeah.
25:47 Caleb Hammer? Food costs are high, your at-home food costs are high.
25:49 Speaker 03 But I also, I mean, I, I take like a lunch every day, I make breakfast every day, I eat dinner, like I try to do like everything. Like eat every meal, cause with like with, like obviously him being on the, like I.
26:01 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, we would get you to eat every meal, I'm not saying skip a meal, who would ever say skip a meal?
26:04 Speaker 03 I mean, no.
26:05 Caleb Hammer? No one's gonna put health over finances or finances over health.
26:08 Speaker 03 I, you tell him sometimes, yeah, like I'll just, I'll eat like only dinner because I'm like.
26:13 Caleb Hammer? But I'm not telling you to do that, either way your food costs are pushed heavily, if, if your cash is going there, plus the grocery budget that we have on here. Then you're pushing high, how often is dude in, in town?
26:24 Speaker 03 Um, he's home for six days out of the whole entire month, so every weekend from like.
26:29 Caleb Hammer? You guys even have a relationship, no re, no wonder why you're not communicating on finances?
26:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:35 Caleb Hammer? What do you guys even do?
26:36 Speaker 03 Um.
26:37 Caleb Hammer? Kid sees your tits more than him.
26:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's also very, very true, not my favorite thing, but it is what it is.
26:45 Caleb Hammer? Oh gosh, you have that much plus strain on you guys?
26:48 Speaker 03 It's hard, it's definitely hard, and like when we first got together, it was not like that, he was at home every day. And then he decided he wanted to do his own business and so.
26:59 Caleb Hammer? He's also entrepreneur right now?
27:01 Speaker 03 Yes.
27:02 Caleb Hammer? What's his business? Because about to move on to the credit cards finally, but okay, what's his business?
27:05 Speaker 03 So him and his dad have the, um, like a hot shotting company, it's a transport. Um, so they haul like everything, like, so he has a, like a Ram thirty-five hundred, but like a flatbed.
27:19 Caleb Hammer? He's a Texan.
27:21 Speaker 03 Technically he has to have it to haul, he's just, technically it's a CDL driver. Um.
27:27 Caleb Hammer? Versus his expenses, you don't know his expenses, you don't even know his spending.
27:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, no, I'm not a hundred percent sure.
27:32 Caleb Hammer? Do you even know what comes in?
27:34 Speaker 03 No, I don't see that, I don't see that.
27:36 Caleb Hammer? Married to this person and we're two and a half years engaged and we don't know what he fucking makes.
27:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't.
27:41 Caleb Hammer? But again, are we surprised you guys talk for a, for, a less than a fourth of the month?
27:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:47 Caleb Hammer? In person.
27:47 Speaker 03 I mean, we, we try to talk on the phone as much as possible, but like with me being at work all day and like having to take.
27:53 Caleb Hammer? How many hours do you work?
27:54 Speaker 03 Um, my schedule, I usually start at like nine, I work from like nine to seven every day.
28:02 Speaker 03 Well, not every day, not every day. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I work nine to seven on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then Saturdays I work from like nine to three. So I'm off Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
28:15 Speaker 03 So I like the days that I do work are the days that I have help with my son that I don't have to shell out a ton of cash for like childcare.
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29:38 Speaker 03 Okay.
29:39 Caleb Hammer? It's not the most horrendously high credit card as far as comes on the show, but it is pretty much at its max.
29:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:45 Caleb Hammer? We got little small things. I mean, this isn't a, this is a pretty thick stack, you know, we're thick stacking over here. I mean, we got purchases, even though interest is accruing. Is it a ton of interest? No. When you stack up all these documents, yes, it becomes a large amount, but it is basically five bucks of interest. You pay the minimum payment because that's all you can afford to pay. But it doesn't matter because you went and spent four times your minimum monthly payment. So why are we spending on a credit card that we cannot pay off? It is my favorite question.
30:11 Speaker 03 Does it?
30:11 Caleb Hammer? Oh, come on. You can't act surprised. How are people surprised? They're like,
30:14 Speaker 03 I don't know.
30:15 Caleb Hammer? I spent on this card that I went out and swiped multiple times.
30:18 Speaker 03 I, I mean, it's probably like a Netflix. It may be like my,
30:22 Caleb Hammer? You can't have Netflix if you can't afford to pay the bills.
30:25 Speaker 03 I mean, uh, me and my clients have to have something to watch like when I'm doing nails.
30:29 Caleb Hammer? What are they gonna watch this shit? They fight that last two seconds and horrible screen.
30:32 Speaker 03 Okay, I technically did not watch. I'd only watched the main event of that. And I wasn't, I wasn't at work. I was at home. So.
30:40 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so. Play that music. Talk to them. Have little conversations. Hi, how's your day?
30:47 Speaker 03 I mean, I do talk to them, but you know, sometimes we like to watch things.
30:51 Caleb Hammer? Oh, your nails. They're so good. Oh, girl.
30:55 Speaker 03 I mean, yeah, it's fun and all, but like sometimes I have clients that come in that don't want to say anything.
31:00 Caleb Hammer? Did you see Bethany down the street? She's such a fucking, you know what I'm talking about?
31:03 Speaker 03 We definitely, I mean, those conversations definitely happen for sure, but like,
31:07 Caleb Hammer? We don't need to be paying for Netflix when we got fresh tea for free.
31:10 Speaker 03 Um, okay.
31:11 Caleb Hammer? Brewed up hot and fresh. It's a small town. I know there's tea.
31:14 Speaker 03 Teeny tiny. Yeah.
31:15 Caleb Hammer? Come on. No, you went to Chick-fil-A. Shut up. You went to Walmart. Shut up. You paid for an Apple subscription. Shut up. And then yes, there was a Netflix, which is too expensive for you. You really can't afford it. I mean, you really can't. You can't.
31:28 Speaker 03 I, yeah, no, it's probably, I, but I love Netflix. I love Netflix.
31:32 Caleb Hammer? Really? That's like, there's nothing on there compared to anything else. I mean, there's a lot. It's all trash.
31:37 Speaker 03 It is. Yeah, it is trash, but I mean, I'm, I need something to watch.
31:41 Caleb Hammer? Guess what? You're on a free platform right now. Highly recommend it.
31:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, but this platform has a ton of ads.
31:49 Caleb Hammer? You do pay for the ad free version, it looks like on there, but the ad free version on here is even cheaper.
31:53 Speaker 03 Is it? I've never even looked at it.
31:56 Caleb Hammer? Even still, you just can't, it's a math thing. If you can't afford, I'm not saying don't have subscriptions. People get upset about my little Spotify goes on ads while you're dead. The thing is, it's not about that. It's about that literally you aren't able to afford bills. So I've confessed. In fact, we know how much money came in. We know how much borrowed about 3,000 came in. Again, you borrowed 2,000. How much was spent? How much was spent?
32:16 Speaker 03 How much was all of it?
32:18 Caleb Hammer? How much was spent?
32:19 Speaker 03 I don't know.
32:19 Caleb Hammer? How much was spent?
32:20 Speaker 03 Um, let's, I'll say 35.
32:22 Caleb Hammer? Okay, that's interesting. Forty nine hundred dollars. So do we have a subscription in that instance, including Spotify? No, because we can't afford to live. Living comes before ads. I don't know if we know this, especially when I have a six month year old.
32:39 Speaker 03 Six month year old?
32:41 Caleb Hammer? No.
32:43 Speaker 03 Okay, yes. Okay. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't watch ad free Netflix. Maybe my clients could watch an ad or two, I guess.
32:53 Caleb Hammer? Maybe your clients can just play, get a little cheap little Bluetooth speaker in there and just play like
33:01 Caleb Hammer? rainforest noises. I don't know. What do people like to listen to when they have their nails done? Dude, you've had fees, fees like crazy fees this year, meaning you've had late payments likely on this.
33:11 Speaker 03 Oh.
33:12 Caleb Hammer? You didn't know, you didn't even know you've had.
33:14 Speaker 03 Okay, there may be like one or two.
33:16 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, two on here.
33:17 Speaker 03 Okay.
33:18 Caleb Hammer? Are we gonna see that on more cards?
33:20 Speaker 03 No.
33:21 Caleb Hammer? No, you're confident. I don't know.
33:23 Speaker 03 I'm almost positive.
33:24 Caleb Hammer? Almost.
33:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think the only times that my payments were late was when I realized, I didn't realize I didn't have the money in my account and everything is on auto pay. Like all my card payments are on auto pay. So.
33:37 Caleb Hammer? So you didn't have enough money in your checking account?
33:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:44 Caleb Hammer? You are a mother. That is not an option because again, you're spending down here Chick-fil-A Netflix. That is a choice. If it was a hundred percent bills, I get it. You know, things get hard. You're making sure they have food. And they have electricity and they have a roof over their head and warmth and water. That comes first. It does. But that wasn't for that. That's not what drained your account and made your minimum payment. Again, you're building this balance up. You spent four times what your minimum payment is so that you can have Chick-fil-A.
34:13 Speaker 03 But it was real good.
34:15 Caleb Hammer? Oh, shut the up. Little girl math cheeky little, you think you're funny or you think it's a little silly thing? Shut up. What?
34:23 Speaker 03 So sorry.
34:24 Caleb Hammer? No, you're not.
34:25 Speaker 03 I mean, no, I mean, that was like one time.
34:28 Caleb Hammer? Guess what? One time you can't afford to f*** your.
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35:00 Caleb Hammer? Bills?
35:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
35:01 Caleb Hammer? You gotta pay.
35:02 Speaker 03 Okay.
35:03 Caleb Hammer? Come on, you got, that's stupid. You have a child. That is selfish. That is disgusting.
35:08 Speaker 03 I'm not trying.
35:09 Caleb Hammer? You're one time.
35:10 Speaker 03 Selfish.
35:10 Caleb Hammer? Trying to, you are. It doesn't matter if you're trying to, you are. It is the action. It's not a try.
35:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
35:16 Caleb Hammer? What? Does this not make sense?
35:17 Speaker 03 No, it makes sense.
35:18 Caleb Hammer? No, it doesn't to you.
35:20 Speaker 03 I just try my, I try my best.
35:22 Caleb Hammer? You're not.
35:23 Speaker 03 Okay.
35:23 Caleb Hammer? Trying your best is not doing it. You are an adult with a child. Okay? You have a child. It is different. If this was just you f***ing up your life, that's a little different. I would get less mad about it. And I know I get a little upset easy and I like to make sure you know how bad your financial situation is. But guess what? You have a kid that did not have a choice to come to this world and you are choosing to make your debt worse when you are their mother that is gonna have to take care of them. They're gonna have to live with you and have to deal with your financial decisions for their entire childhood. It is not cute.
35:52 Speaker 03 I don't think it's a joke.
35:53 Caleb Hammer? It is not funny and even one time is f***ed.
35:56 Speaker 03 I don't think it's a joke.
36:00 Speaker 03 I just didn't take lunch that day, I'm assuming. And so I went and got Chick-fil-A.
36:03 Caleb Hammer? Take lunch. Skip lunch. I don't care. Thirty-two dollars of interest. Come on. It's not a joke. I'm happy to be all silly and fun, but come on. You know, f***ing problem, you got a kid to take care of.
36:18 Speaker 03 Okay. I know, that's right. You're right. I'm sorry, you're right.
36:20 Caleb Hammer? Is this what it's like to do with you?
36:21 Speaker 03 No, no.
36:23 Caleb Hammer? Indigo. Again, it's not a massive balance, which is even more upsetting that it actually exists. But a hundred forty-one dollars and sixteen cents. Okay, what do we got? Oh, good, we got three dollars of fees, three dollars fifty-seven cents of interest. Well, at least there's no purchases. Congratulations on that. Forty hour minutes of payment. These are gonna stack up for you. Already have a feeling. You're not a credit card person.
36:43 Speaker 03 No, I shouldn't.
36:44 Caleb Hammer? I know you wanna build credit, so use like, uh, use the Fizz card. It's one of our partners that all of our guests and a lot of people in the audience use. Use them. Debit card. You can't spend more than what's in your account, but it builds credit like a credit card.
36:58 Speaker 03 That's super smart.
36:59 Caleb Hammer? Yes, there you go. Use that. Don't. You're not a credit card person. You cannot do this. This card has a monthly fee. Why even have this card? You're not getting any benefit. There's no way you're getting more benefit.
37:07 Speaker 03 I'm gonna be completely real about the credit card situation that I have. So, um, I think credit karma is a problem for me. Cause like I get on there and I'm like, oh, outstanding approval odds can build your credit.
37:20 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, and your outstanding approval odds are to the bullsh- ones that have monthly fees, meaning whatever benefit you're getting.
37:26 Speaker 03 I don't, okay, I don't really read the whole.
37:31 Caleb Hammer? Can you read?
37:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, I can. But I don't read like the, yeah, I like the annual fee. Like I usually like skip over that.
37:40 Caleb Hammer? Wonderful. Have you ever looked at a statement in your life after that?
37:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, I didn't in-depth look at the statement, but I did.
37:48 Caleb Hammer? This isn't in-depth. It is literally just there. It's like one of four sections. That is hardly in-depth.
37:54 Speaker 03 I see, I see what the payment is, the minimum payment is, or the payment, I like, what's the balance and then like the payment? And then I'm like, alright, cool.
38:01 Caleb Hammer? That's considered in-depth for you. I'm terrified for the finances around your business.
38:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, I usually have everything set up on auto pay, so I'm, I don't even look at any of it.
38:10 Caleb Hammer? But we know, shut for a second. We know that doesn't matter for you though, because you don't have enough money in your checking account sometimes and you can't pay it. So it's not just about setting up auto pay.
38:23 Caleb Hammer? Come on, close this card. You're not getting any better from this. And it will hurt your credit a little, but close this card. You're not paying, you're not paying a fee to increase credit. We're not doing that. There are some services where it actually makes sense a little, but again, with this, you're not getting any benefit. It's not a credit building service. It's a credit card where you're just paying a bank, plus accruing interest.
38:50 Caleb Hammer? Even if it's 12 months in a year, but no, we're 11 months in the, but this isn't even the 11th month statement. 10 months in a year, it'd be, it'd be $30 would be your annual fee.
39:00 Caleb Hammer? Your fees charged on this card alone, this year has been $232. More than the literal, no, that's basically the credit limit on this card. That is insane. There has to be mountains of late fees, mountains of late fees. And you thought there were no other late fees on any other cards. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what your finances like. You don't know how to look at a statement. You don't know how to look in depth to things as in a number.
39:28 Speaker 03 So that, I'm trying to think of when that happened.
39:32 Caleb Hammer? The moment you get home, this is not even an option. The moment you get home, Lindsay's sending them to you. Start going through the debt class. Start going through the debt class thoroughly. Go through the budget class after that thoroughly. Leave the investing one for a second because I don't want to over complicate things.
39:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
39:48 Caleb Hammer? But start taking.
39:49 Speaker 03 Too much information at one time. That'd be too much.
39:51 Caleb Hammer? Take the quizzes. The fact that you cannot read a statement, make sure on time payments are dealt with and learn how to build a budget and understand what's happening. Go through all the education we have made because you get it for free. And guess what? This is actually what pisses me off because out there they can get it for 15% off. But the people who buy it, over 10,000 people have bought it. They go through this stuff because they buy it. So because they put money towards it, they're investing in their future. They actually take it and then they, we see results from them. But I have guests come on to the follow up channel who get it for free. And then they don't take it because they get it for free. Take it. Change your life. Sorry. Listen, I'm a little upset right now because you literally just told me on this last card that that was the only,
40:35 Caleb Hammer? you were confident that that was the only card that you had missed payments on.
40:38 Speaker 03 I knew.
40:39 Caleb Hammer? That is objectively not true.
40:40 Speaker 03 I knew that the Indigo card I had at one point in time gotten behind on it to the point that I couldn't.
40:46 Caleb Hammer? Why didn't you tell me?
40:48 Speaker 03 I didn't know if it was this year or not. I thought it was last year.
40:51 Caleb Hammer? This card, this card's horrible.
40:53 Speaker 03 Um, let's see, I'm trying to think. I had that for like maybe two years.
41:01 Caleb Hammer? How do we function as a society, guys? How, how have we made it to 2024, 2025 almost? Good for us.
41:08 Speaker 03 I'm
41:08 Caleb Hammer? We're surviving.
41:09 Speaker 03 We're surviving. It till I make it, basically is what's happening.
41:13 Caleb Hammer? You're never gonna make it with your fake in it. That's not how this works. You're you're you're gonna have to actually change. Take control and then you have a chance to make it. You're never.
41:20 Speaker 03 Like I'm down to change things. I'm down to change things.
41:23 Caleb Hammer? Good.
41:23 Speaker 03 I just let things get out of hand and then I'm just.
41:27 Caleb Hammer? Why did you let things get out of hand for so long?
41:31 Speaker 03 Um.
41:34 Caleb Hammer? If she's not able to answer this, I am terrified for the rest of her life.
41:38 Speaker 03 Uh, at one point in time, like financially, we got into like kind of a hole.
41:44 Caleb Hammer? Who's we? Him? You and him?
41:45 Speaker 03 Yes.
41:46 Caleb Hammer? You and the guy where you know nothing about his finances and he knows nothing about yours. Great.
41:49 Speaker 03 Right. We had kinda got into a hole like in between like a job shift for him. And so I was stacking a lot of things on my credit cards to try to like kinda make up for things that we were lacking. And then it got to the point that like so much money was going to try to like pick up the pieces from a a hole that I kinda let.
42:11 Caleb Hammer? Hole.
42:11 Speaker 03 Um.
42:12 Caleb Hammer? Is it before he stuck it in your hole?
42:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, actually, it was. Not too far before.
42:19 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so it was only like a year ago?
42:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, about a year and a half ago. Um, he was.
42:23 Caleb Hammer? Those are hard times. I'm sorry. And that's, you know, we get, we get deep, we get rough, we get scrappy, we figure it out. And sometimes it puts us in a little hole for a while, but you've had a good amount of time to dig out of there. And now we got dual income coming in.
42:36 Speaker 03 So I I wouldn't say, okay, so dual income, y- yes and no. Like I I don't benefit from his income.
42:44 Caleb Hammer? Are you going to when married? Do you know how you guys are gonna do it? Again, you guys haven't.
42:48 Speaker 03 It's not like a converse. I mean, it's always been separate. Like his, his stuff is his stuff and my stuff is my stuff. Like some things like for the households, like we share, like.
42:58 Caleb Hammer? Down the middle then.
42:59 Speaker 03 So I pay all the utilities and I buy all the groceries and he pays the rent, which it.
43:03 Caleb Hammer? Rents are definitely more expensive than utilities.
43:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, so like, that's why, that's why.
43:08 Caleb Hammer? But again, he's there for six days a month. So does that even matter? You're just getting the groceries for you.
43:13 Speaker 03 Um, yeah.
43:16 Caleb Hammer? This is a little weird.
43:17 Speaker 03 But even like, but whatever.
43:18 Caleb Hammer? You're saying he pays the entire rent?
43:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, but it is like eleven hundred bucks.
43:24 Caleb Hammer? That's huge!
43:25 Speaker 03 For a two bedroom, two bath.
43:27 Caleb Hammer? For your income, that's huge!
43:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I don't pay it.
43:31 Caleb Hammer? Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
43:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
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44:33 Speaker 03 No, not from each other, no.
44:34 Caleb Hammer? If his truck gets in a little whoopsie off a cliff.
44:39 Speaker 03 I hope he's got good insurance, but yeah.
44:42 Caleb Hammer? Are you on it?
44:43 Speaker 03 No.
44:45 Caleb Hammer? Then yay.
44:46 Speaker 03 I mean, I got hope, like he's got, like, you know.
44:49 Caleb Hammer? I'm saying if he dies, which I'm hoping not happens. But life is life is life, and you're not prepared for it, and you are in a scary situation. You can't afford to live and your rent's already taken care of.
44:59 Speaker 03 Correct, yeah.
45:00 Caleb Hammer? So what I was trying to say is, it's okay to get into a hole for a while. Life happens and we get gritty and we get scrappy, but we learn things out of there. And then we do what's necessary to pull ourselves out. Again, nothing's happened on here, except for we have late payments this year, which is not when the hole happened. Multiple late payments, and we have a card that is going up out of two that we've looked at. So it can't just be about the hole a year and a half ago. Your actions today are horrendous.
45:27 Speaker 03 Well, I think, so the hole kind of put a lot of his finances, like, behind.
45:32 Caleb Hammer? Finances matter right now.
45:33 Speaker 03 Because I was like trying to.
45:34 Caleb Hammer? Right now.
45:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, I was, during the time that that card was late, he was still dealing with. He was still dealing with some of, some like. Behind payments on this or a few things. It's just like.
45:49 Caleb Hammer? So you were behind because he was behind?
45:50 Speaker 03 Because I was using my like, I just didn't have the money. Like all my money was going towards other things.
45:55 Caleb Hammer? Forty dollar minimum monthly payment.
45:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:58 Caleb Hammer? You cannot be in that kind of life with a kid. You can't be. That's not our choice. It is not a choice. You have a responsibility now.
46:05 Speaker 03 So like, I felt like I was doing something by at least getting the minimum payments made. Like when I could.
46:12 Caleb Hammer? You weren't.
46:13 Speaker 03 At the time, no, but like as of now, I was doing what I could to make sure monthly payments were taken care of. So it didn't get any worse.
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46:49 Speaker 03 No, I.
46:50 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, you're borrowing basically everything you make.
46:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
46:53 Caleb Hammer? From small business loans.
46:55 Speaker 03 Right.
46:55 Caleb Hammer? Very curious to look at those. Okay. Oh, another Capital One. Platinum.
47:02 Speaker 03 Sorry.
47:02 Caleb Hammer? What happened?
47:03 Speaker 03 I mean, that one, the other one, the first one is secured. So this is like the my step up from that.
47:08 Caleb Hammer? Oh, wonderful. Three forty one twenty with a twenty five dollar minimum monthly payment, which again, these are not crazy compared to a lot of things on this show, but it doesn't matter because compared to your situation, it is crazy. And guess what?
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47:50 Speaker 03 So that.
47:50 Caleb Hammer? You doubled your minimum monthly payment.
47:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, right. I, I was trying to do something.
47:54 Caleb Hammer? Can I get, can I?
47:55 Speaker 03 But then I probably spent on it.
47:58 Caleb Hammer? Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. And then you spent more than your payment. So it doesn't even matter.
48:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:09 Speaker 03 I usually like swipe a credit card like whenever like I didn't have money going to my account from like the day of work.
48:19 Speaker 03 And then I think well, the minimum.
48:20 Caleb Hammer? You're paying advancing yourself on a credit card essentially?
48:22 Speaker 03 Technically, ki- well, kinda. If it's like a Monday or Tuesday that like obviously I'm not gonna work and get paid that day.
48:30 Caleb Hammer? No, of course not.
48:31 Speaker 03 I'll just swap.
48:32 Caleb Hammer? You can't work on Mondays and Tuesdays?
48:34 Speaker 03 It's just days I don't have help with my son, because.
48:37 Caleb Hammer? Why? Who who's helping you on the other days?
48:39 Speaker 03 So my mom and my sister will come and sit with him on.
48:44 Caleb Hammer? And they cannot on Monday or Tuesday?
48:46 Speaker 03 No.
48:47 Caleb Hammer? What are they doing on Monday or Tuesday? They're not doing it on all those other days.
48:50 Speaker 03 So my sister's a bartender, so she is off like random days throughout the week and also she's in college.
48:55 Caleb Hammer? She's also the top serving bartender in all of Sulfur?
48:58 Speaker 03 No, she's she lives in Prosper.
49:00 Caleb Hammer? That sounds much better than Sulfur.
49:02 Speaker 03 She's off on Mondays, but she is about to graduate from college, so she.
49:05 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
49:06 Speaker 03 She goes to college on the like Monday.
49:08 Caleb Hammer? If they can't help, they can't help. It is what it is. And we know with how much money comes in, childcare would likely be more expensive.
49:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'd be like, I would basically be working to pay for the childcare. I can.
49:19 Caleb Hammer? Child?
49:19 Speaker 03 I can take him, but the amount of like time and attention that he needs.
49:23 Caleb Hammer? Punch him. No, I get it. It's it's two da- listen, it's, but the thing is, okay, no, it's.
49:30 Speaker 03 He does have a babysitter that he does go to only on Thursdays. She watches a couple of other kids.
49:35 Caleb Hammer? How much is that?
49:36 Speaker 03 Forty bucks a day.
49:40 Caleb Hammer? Do it. Are you kidding me? Mathematically, you make more than forty dollars a day when you work?
49:45 Speaker 03 No, I know. So on Thursday.
49:47 Caleb Hammer? Do it on Monday and Tuesday.
49:48 Speaker 03 She cannot watch him on Monday and Tuesday.
49:50 Caleb Hammer? Why is everyone all of a sudden?
49:52 Speaker 03 I don't know.
49:53 Caleb Hammer? Doing something different?
49:54 Speaker 03 So on Monday and Tuesdays, she watches um another child that has an issue with like abiding other kids. And so she just wants to be safe.
50:04 Caleb Hammer? Train yours to bite back.
50:05 Speaker 03 He doesn't even have any. Damn teeth. Yeah.
50:07 Caleb Hammer? Perfect. So they won't get hurt, but they'll get deterred. Nine thirty nine in interest. Okay. Okay. Minimart. We went to a little minimart in Dollar General. Oh, we don't do Dollar General, by the way. Usually the cost per like ounce is bad. You get smaller portions, so it's cheaper, but.
50:24 Speaker 03 Dollar General? What do you mean?
50:26 Caleb Hammer? As in when you went to Dollar General?
50:28 Speaker 03 Oh, that was medicine for my son. He had covid, like.
50:31 Caleb Hammer? From Dollar General?
50:33 Speaker 03 So he can't have like, he can't have like prescription medication yet. So like, you know.
50:37 Caleb Hammer? That was the thing in the pharmacist's Dollar General?
50:39 Speaker 03 No, no.
50:40 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
50:41 Speaker 03 The minimart may.
50:43 Caleb Hammer? Fifty dollars in fees this year so far. So you're late on three cards in a row. You only said you would be on late on one. Are you kidding me?
50:49 Speaker 03 Oh, I guess.
50:50 Caleb Hammer? Been late on.
50:50 Speaker 03 I guess I was thinking when I thought Capital, when I thought Capital One, when I thought Capital One, I just meant like, like.
50:56 Caleb Hammer? All the Capital Ones?
50:58 Speaker 03 Both Capital One. Yeah.
51:00 Caleb Hammer? That doesn't make any sense. What kind of?
51:03 Caleb Hammer? What? Okay. And then, of course, over a hundred dollars in interest this year so far on here. Mastercard. When, when you thought Capital One, did you think Mastercard as well?
51:14 Speaker 03 No, that's.
51:15 Caleb Hammer? Okay, one main financial. Brightway. This is fifty things. Mastercard, one main Brightway. We'll call it one main. Oh, please tell me it's small. Again, it is small, which is gonna help for cleaning these up. This is ridiculous. Three hundred eighty four dollars and two cents. It is the biggest so far with a minimum monthly payment of twenty five bucks. Okay. No new purchase is good. Interest bad and only minimum monthly payment made. Takes two years to pay off. The way you're doing. You didn't know that? That it would take two years?
51:45 Speaker 03 No.
51:46 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
51:47 Speaker 03 I just kept hoping and praying and minimum pay.
51:50 Caleb Hammer? Sake. Fees up the asshole this year. Ninety dollars a fees.
51:55 Speaker 03 It's the annual fee.
51:57 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
51:57 Speaker 03 That's the annual.
51:57 Caleb Hammer? They have an eighty nine dollar annual fee.
51:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't.
52:00 Caleb Hammer? You're a hundred percent certain it is eighty nine dollars?
52:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:03 Caleb Hammer? Do you know? I can't trust you. You're not a reliable narrator for your money. You don't know your numbers.
52:08 Speaker 03 Because I, I did look at that one when I applied. That is an eighty nine annual fee on that, because that as.
52:13 Caleb Hammer? It wasn't too in-depth for you?
52:15 Speaker 03 No.
52:17 Speaker 03 I did make it through that one.
52:18 Caleb Hammer? Oh, this is at a thirty per six percent interest rate.
52:23 Caleb Hammer? Is that the highest I've ever seen on a credit card? It might be. That's insane. I didn't even know that was a thing.
52:29 Speaker 03 I think I-
52:30 Caleb Hammer? Cause they can't compete in the marketplace with a player in print. Apparently they can. Cause anyone will just open them and then they charge the annual fees.
52:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't, I don't think I've ever, so I've never looked at interest rates when applying for credit cards. Ever.
52:48 Caleb Hammer? But what about the annual fees though? Cause that's so baked in regardless if you're holding interest or not.
52:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:54 Caleb Hammer? For you a lot.
52:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't know. I don't really know what my thought process is.
52:59 Caleb Hammer? Okay, Merrick Bank, what do we have here?
53:02 Speaker 03 That one's pretty high, I think.
53:04 Caleb Hammer? Oh, good. Felt like such a happier conversation at the beginning, didn't it? I was happier.
53:08 Speaker 03 I was having a good time.
53:09 Caleb Hammer? Oh, no, you're not above your credit level. Oh, you're close, okay.
53:11 Speaker 03 No, no, no. None of them are above my credit limit. I do very well and not over.
53:15 Caleb Hammer? There's only one that you had late fees on. So far it's been every card. So that's, oh, okay. Okay, maybe not the last one. I still can't trust you.
53:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
53:22 Caleb Hammer? But five hundred forty-one dollars and eighty-two cents, six dollars in fees. Annual monthly fee. No, I like this shirt.
53:35 Speaker 03 Golly.
53:36 Caleb Hammer? Probably done. I poked myself.
53:38 Speaker 03 Maybe you stop going so crazy with the pen, that might not happen.
53:40 Caleb Hammer? That's what I do. Forty-one dollars in minimum monthly payments. No new purchases, good. Hmm, your payment was only thirty-five though. And then interest of thirteen dollars and twenty-one cents. I guess you could just, maybe you got pushed to that new level. Yeah, enough fees this year to make sense for those, those monthly fees. So that actually makes sense. It doesn't look like there's extra in here. And then a hundred twenty-five dollars in interest. We have to be close to six hundred dollars in interest this year so far across these cards, just about.
54:09 Speaker 03 It might help if I would look at how much these interest rates are before I just start applying, applying, applying to these random cards.
54:17 Speaker 03 It's probably the best.
54:18 Caleb Hammer? Is that what you think?
54:21 Speaker 03 Come to that conclusion.
54:22 Caleb Hammer? That's your takeaway.
54:22 Speaker 03 Obviously, don't have as many cards as I do, but if I'm going to apply.
54:26 Caleb Hammer? That's your takeaway.
54:27 Speaker 03 No, no, as if I'm.
54:27 Caleb Hammer? Don't have as many?
54:29 Speaker 03 Don't have as many and don't charge to them the way I do.
54:33 Caleb Hammer? You can't have credit cards.
54:35 Speaker 03 So.
54:36 Caleb Hammer? You can't.
54:36 Speaker 03 No more credit cards.
54:37 Caleb Hammer? You can't have credit cards. You need to close your accounts. You can't be trusted with them. You don't know how to manage them. You are not responsible enough for them. And that's okay. Who cares? I don't care if you're good with credit cards, but don't give yourself that reason to fuck up.
54:49 Speaker 03 Get like the leeway.
54:50 Caleb Hammer? The ability, not even the leeway, the ability. Take away the ability. If all you've taken away with it so far.
54:58 Speaker 03 No, I mean.
54:59 Caleb Hammer? Does I need to stop applying for new cards? Oh.
55:02 Speaker 03 If going to have a card, I should.
55:05 Caleb Hammer? You're not.
55:05 Speaker 03 Okay, I'm not gonna have a card. No more cards.
55:09 Caleb Hammer? More credit cards.
55:10 Speaker 03 Okay, yeah.
55:11 Caleb Hammer? Two thousand sixteen dollars on the BMI card. Okay, actually a large balance finally. Unpaid deferred sales tax of anyone dollars and thirty nine cents. What the fuck even?
55:22 Speaker 03 What, wait, what?
55:23 Caleb Hammer? Then ten dollars of interest. Wait, be this statement.
55:27 Speaker 03 What is that?
55:28 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my goodness. Look, guys. Oh, oh.
55:32 Speaker 03 What is?
55:33 Caleb Hammer? I am proud of you for making it to twenty five. I am proud that that child has lived until now.
55:38 Speaker 03 Oh, that's my car. That's my car.
55:41 Caleb Hammer? What you said? Wait, what?
55:43 Speaker 03 That's my car loan.
55:46 Caleb Hammer? I don't believe you said you were better off than most people because you don't have a car loan.
55:52 Speaker 03 So it's not in my name. It doesn't affect, it doesn't affect my credit is what I meant. Like, that isn't stacked onto my credit.
56:00 Caleb Hammer? What are you? What even is your existence? What are you?
56:05 Speaker 03 Like, that wasn't ta, like, added on to my dad's.
56:10 Speaker 03 This is my stepdad's and my mom's name.
56:12 Caleb Hammer? Step dads.
56:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:16 Caleb Hammer? What the, why?
56:17 Speaker 03 Cause I didn't have enough credit to get a car. Like, my credit was.
56:20 Caleb Hammer? You keep getting up your life and your credit is still.
56:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, it is definitely still.
56:26 Caleb Hammer? What even is this car?
56:27 Speaker 03 It's a twenty eighteen Altima. I've had it for almost four years.
56:30 Caleb Hammer? It's actually worth seven thousand dollars.
56:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, and it's not terrible.
56:36 Caleb Hammer? You owe two thousand on it. You have an equity position.
56:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:39 Caleb Hammer? Yeah.
56:39 Speaker 03 So it's not the worst.
56:40 Caleb Hammer? I'm saying that is a good thing. No, the loan's probably bad.
56:43 Speaker 03 I've had it for like four years.
56:45 Caleb Hammer? So you're likely mostly done with the interest part.
56:48 Speaker 03 And like, I mean, yes, it shows that my car.
56:50 Caleb Hammer? But your late fees. You're late!
56:52 Speaker 03 So my.
56:53 Caleb Hammer? Wait, wait, they're late? They're late?
56:55 Speaker 03 No, no, I, my, the money goes to them. Like.
56:58 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but they're supposed to pay for it and it's late. This is in their credit.
57:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's there. It's, yeah.
57:02 Caleb Hammer? Why are they late? Are you late to them to them to be late to that?
57:05 Speaker 03 Whenever, whenever my stepdad got the loan in his name, he was getting paid on Mondays. So the payment was due on a Monday. Versus it being on a Friday when I could pay it.
57:19 Caleb Hammer? This, the term says two one nine. That would be eighteen years. That doesn't make sense.
57:24 Caleb Hammer? Huh? Two hundred and nineteen.
57:25 Speaker 03 Oh, payments. Oh, a weekly payment. Sorry. That's, it's set up weekly. They set it up as like a weekly payment.
57:32 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so it's a four years. Four more years?
57:34 Speaker 03 No, no, no, I.
57:35 Caleb Hammer? Four years total? But you've been doing it for four years. If it's weekly, it comes out the four years.
57:40 Speaker 03 So I pay a hundred and twenty-five a week. I pay five hundred dollars a month towards the car. And all it's owed is.
57:47 Caleb Hammer? How much time is left?
57:48 Speaker 03 Just whenever I get done paying off that.
57:50 Caleb Hammer? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, what's the minimum monthly payment?
57:53 Speaker 03 Well, I pay, I pay five hundred dollars a month.
57:54 Caleb Hammer? What's the minimum monthly payment?
57:55 Speaker 03 On the whole loan? I have no idea.
57:57 Caleb Hammer? What is happening?
57:58 Speaker 03 So I pay, I pay, so the minimum payment, it looks like it's one twenty-two. I pay one twenty-five towards, towards it every week.
58:07 Caleb Hammer? But the monthly minimum is one twenty-five?
58:09 Speaker 03 No, the monthly minimum is one twenty-two times four. I pay, they have all, it's always been set up weekly payments. So I don't know, like I pay weekly on it. Like, it's not like a every month type of deal.
58:25 Caleb Hammer? There's only two thousand hours left. This means you're done in like a few months, but are you?
58:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:30 Caleb Hammer? You sure?
58:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, you're really. Doing some damage. So the only reason why it shows.
58:36 Caleb Hammer? What was this balance when it first started?
58:39 Speaker 03 I'm not a hundred percent.
58:40 Caleb Hammer? How do you not know anything?
58:41 Speaker 03 Because my parents got the car. It was a su- surprise because I could not afford to.
58:47 Caleb Hammer? Surprise, here's a $500 minimum payment. Oh my gosh, our society.
58:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:51 Caleb Hammer? Our society, we do.
58:52 Speaker 03 I just told her to go, I said, I need a car and me and my fiance before he was my fiance at the time, tried to get one in both of our names and it just wasn't working.
59:03 Caleb Hammer? You had a fiance?
59:05 Speaker 03 This fiance?
59:06 Caleb Hammer? Oh, you said at the time, okay.
59:07 Speaker 03 We weren't not, we're not, we were not engaged at the time, no.
59:09 Caleb Hammer? So he wasn't a fiance at the time, okay.
59:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, before he was my fiance, we went and tried to go get a car in, in both of our names, but it just wasn't working. So my parents were like, I'll put.
59:21 Caleb Hammer? Two people who are engaged for two and a half years and know nothing about their own finances and continue up when together before they even knew less about each other were unable to do it. What?
59:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's so crazy, right? So, um, my parents were like, I'll help you. Obviously we'll put it in our name, but it's, you're gonna be your.
59:38 Caleb Hammer? Who's paying the late fees? Them or you?
59:40 Speaker 03 Me. I pay for everything.
59:43 Caleb Hammer? So you were.
59:43 Speaker 03 They have enough.
59:44 Caleb Hammer? So you were late.
59:45 Speaker 03 Yes, technically.
59:47 Caleb Hammer? Do you even know? Did you even?
59:49 Speaker 03 No, I was, so the payments are due on Mondays versus my money being.
59:54 Caleb Hammer? But this is on their credit. They allow that?
59:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:00 Caleb Hammer? How old's your mom?
1:00:01 Speaker 03 Fifty-one.
1:00:02 Caleb Hammer? Your fifty-one year old's credit.
1:00:06 Caleb Hammer? Wonderful.
1:00:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't, didn't mean to.
1:00:13 Caleb Hammer? What do you mean didn't mean to? You were late on everything except for two cards so far. Two out of the one, two, three, four, five, six, that's a bad.
1:00:22 Speaker 03 That's all the cards, is it right? We're done with cards?
1:00:23 Caleb Hammer? I don't know.
1:00:25 Speaker 03 Oh, I thought we were, okay.
1:00:28 Caleb Hammer? You're successful a third of the time on making on time payments on accounts. A third of the time, I didn't mean to?
1:00:37 Caleb Hammer? What is gloss genius? Oh, is that?
1:00:40 Speaker 03 That that's what I've paid towards. So with that small business loan that you
1:00:47 Caleb Hammer? I don't even understand what that is yet. I have to take a look. I didn't even know it existed.
1:00:51 Speaker 03 What do you mean? So it's like
1:00:53 Caleb Hammer? Is this the thing? Is this is this is the this is the payroll?
1:00:56 Speaker 03 That's the 2000. That's the 2000. It's not technically a payroll loan.
1:01:02 Caleb Hammer? Oh, no, it's not. This is pay advancing. These are Michael Little payday loans, small business loan. You don't know what you're saying. Oh, yeah.
1:01:12 Speaker 03 That's what it said.
1:01:13 Caleb Hammer? You're getting them every second of your damn life.
1:01:16 Speaker 03 So that's how
1:01:17 Caleb Hammer? You kidding me? Are you doing it every single month?
1:01:18 Speaker 03 So this is how
1:01:19 Caleb Hammer? Are you doing it every single month?
1:01:20 Speaker 03 Every single
1:01:21 Caleb Hammer? Are you doing this single month? Huh? Your little payday loans?
1:01:23 Speaker 03 No, I'm not doing this is the first time I've ever done this.
1:01:26 Caleb Hammer? No, no, it is.
1:01:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:27 Caleb Hammer? Good. Make it.
1:01:27 Speaker 03 I've never done taken a loan out before.
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1:03:18 Speaker 03 It was just so crazy. I had to have this gel polish collection. Let me see what I can do and I got it.
1:03:26 Caleb Hammer? I don't know. What's going on in culture right now?
1:03:29 Speaker 03 What do you mean? It was like 288 gel polish colors. So the highest quality.
1:03:35 Caleb Hammer? Special like Shrek's anus color or something like what, what did you mean that didn't exist?
1:03:39 Speaker 03 Because I didn't already own those colors. I started off with like, I started off with like 40. No, I'm lying. Maybe like 30 different colors that I've had for like the entirety of my nail tech journey.
1:03:51 Caleb Hammer? Why can't you cash flow your business though?
1:03:53 Speaker 03 I don't know. I feel like I'm just not bringing, at the time I was not bringing in enough money to keep everything going. And I had a problem.
1:04:03 Caleb Hammer? You're still not. And if that is the case.
1:04:05 Speaker 03 But if I could work the same amount of hours that I was before I had my son.
1:04:09 Caleb Hammer? Are you not? You already said you're not, but you told me how many hours you're working.
1:04:12 Speaker 03 I was working six days a week, 12 hours shifts. I was working 12 hours a day, every day, except for Sunday. I was only off on Sundays.
1:04:20 Caleb Hammer? You might have to bring the kid, dude. You had the kid, you had the kid, you guys on the road all the time or you're changing careers.
1:04:25 Speaker 03 But having a two hour.
1:04:27 Caleb Hammer? I'm sorry, paying bills comes first. You gotta figure this out.
1:04:29 Speaker 03 No, I know I have to figure it out, but.
1:04:31 Caleb Hammer? But like you have to bring the kid or you need to find another $40 childcare sitter. That's incredible by the way that right?
1:04:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:38 Caleb Hammer? So you need to find another one, maybe some grandma around town that's doing nothing and is falling down and dying. Get one of them to look at where the kid, just make sure it doesn't fall down with them.
1:04:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's the problem. I, my postpartum anxiety is through the roof. My postpartum anxiety is like through the roof, like when it comes to other people watching him or him like. Not paying the people I don't know.
1:04:58 Caleb Hammer? The postpartum anxiety or the I'm not gonna be able to pay bills and we're gonna get evicted.
1:05:02 Speaker 03 Oh, it's all crammed.
1:05:03 Caleb Hammer? Child is not gonna have a place to live.
1:05:04 Speaker 03 On top of each other, yeah.
1:05:06 Caleb Hammer? Then maybe, uh, vet the person, have them come hang out with you for a day. Pay him a daily fee to come hang out with you. Vet them.
1:05:14 Speaker 03 I can't afford to pay them a daily fee.
1:05:17 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:05:17 Speaker 03 I can't afford to pay them the daily fee.
1:05:20 Caleb Hammer? A forty dollar thing if we can get another forty dollar person, which is incredible. This just must be a small town thing over there and, uh, dank bill or whatever. What's it called? Sulfur?
1:05:28 Speaker 03 Tank bill, yeah.
1:05:28 Caleb Hammer? I don't know. How much is owed left on this? Gloss genius.
1:05:33 Speaker 03 So I just got that paid out last month, so I've paid, um, two seventy just since I got it. So from October till now.
1:05:42 Caleb Hammer? It's the interest.
1:05:42 Speaker 03 So it's a fixed fee.
1:05:43 Caleb Hammer? What's the fee?
1:05:45 Speaker 03 Three ninety-eight, three eighty-nine, three eighty-nine.
1:05:47 Caleb Hammer? What, three dollars?
1:05:49 Speaker 03 No, three hundred and eighty-nine is the fixed fee. They give you, they.
1:05:53 Caleb Hammer? Of the, of the two thousand or is that included in the two thousand?
1:05:55 Speaker 03 That's included in the, so it's two, twenty-three eighty-nine.
1:05:58 Caleb Hammer? What, what was it again? Say the fee?
1:06:01 Speaker 03 Three eighty-nine. It's like a nineteen percent interest rate.
1:06:04 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, basically twenty percent.
1:06:06 Speaker 03 I did know that. Interest rate?
1:06:09 Caleb Hammer? Oh!
1:06:09 Speaker 03 Interest rate, fixed fee.
1:06:11 Caleb Hammer? Dude, why would you pay the advance at a twenty? If you're taking out a small business loan, you don't go twenty percent. You go like eight to ten.
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1:06:50 Caleb Hammer? And even that I don't necessarily like.
1:06:52 Speaker 03 Stuff, I'm just, I don't know that kind of stuff.
1:06:54 Caleb Hammer? Google!
1:06:56 Speaker 03 I mean, yes.
1:06:57 Caleb Hammer? This was presented to you in an app and you're like, boo.
1:06:59 Speaker 03 Well, yeah, kinda. I was like, I need.
1:07:02 Caleb Hammer? You gotta stop looking at things in apps. Every time you see something in an app, you have to borrow it. You're obsessed with it. And credit karma and in this gloss genius. The gloss genius anyway.
1:07:12 Speaker 03 It's literally a booking app, but they send me stupid notifications. It's like, we can help you in your small business.
1:07:18 Caleb Hammer? And guess what? You're stupid for accepting them.
1:07:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. I thought at the time, it, you know, midnight, I was making a great decision by buying this gel polish. And it's, I mean, it's wonderful. It's beautiful on my wall.
1:07:31 Caleb Hammer? But on the wall instead of on people's nails. That's fantastic. So good. I'm so glad.
1:07:35 Speaker 03 It has to be stored somewhere. It's stored on the wall.
1:07:37 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but you realize what you just had. Come on. That was like in your brain.
1:07:40 Speaker 03 It's beautiful.
1:07:41 Caleb Hammer? That was in the back of your brain. You know it.
1:07:43 Speaker 03 It's great on people's nails. It's, that's just all my, so every time I.
1:07:48 Caleb Hammer? Good. So we owe two thousand essentially, two thousand one hundred. And what's your like minimum monthly? Do you even know?
1:07:53 Speaker 03 Um, so I have to pay at least two sixty-six every sixty days. So this is how, so this is how that loan specifically works is that.
1:08:03 Caleb Hammer? One thirty-three a month. Okay.
1:08:05 Speaker 03 So, um, every time I charge like a credit card or a debit card, like through the app, like if somebody pays with a card, they take out up like thirty percent of that charge. So I'm never like outright paying for the loan, like as far as like a monthly payment.
1:08:25 Caleb Hammer? That's insane, dude.
1:08:26 Speaker 03 So it takes out.
1:08:27 Caleb Hammer? That's insane. That's so much less control of your money. This is a bad product.
1:08:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm coming to realize that as I have noticed my, you know, income decreasing.
1:08:41 Caleb Hammer? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, repayment rate is thirty percent per transaction.
1:08:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:45 Caleb Hammer? So every.
1:08:46 Speaker 03 Every transaction, every transaction.
1:08:48 Caleb Hammer? To get to it, sixty day minimum two sixty-six. Okay. I marked it as a hundred thirty-three a month, but.
1:08:52 Speaker 03 So I technically pay more than that towards it. That, that's just like, if I don't hit that, then they just pull it directly from my bank account.
1:08:59 Caleb Hammer? Indigo and other Indigo, Indigo two, the sequel, we're back with more monthly fees.
1:09:04 Speaker 03 That was a different one. Monthly fees. That, that hadn't even put anything on that card.
1:09:09 Caleb Hammer? It doesn't matter if you have the Indigo.
1:09:11 Speaker 03 Oh yeah. It has the monthly fee like nine dollars. Yeah.
1:09:13 Caleb Hammer? Close this card. You have nothing on it and it's paying. You're having, you're being, you're being charged ten dollars just to have this card. Close it is stupid. Why give yourself another subscription? This is a third of your Netflix bill almost. But you have two of them, so it's almost, almost your entire Netflix bill just to be lucky enough to have those cards. What?
1:09:33 Speaker 03 I just opened another card to like.
1:09:35 Caleb Hammer? Right now? That I don't have?
1:09:37 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no. That one is the card that I opened to show that I had to, to give myself more like credit limit that I haven't.
1:09:44 Caleb Hammer? Your credit limit, that's not how you operate. You always get to your credit limit. That will be in the coming months unless you change that. That's how you operate in life. How have you not realized that this is a behavior thing?
1:09:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, I guess.
1:09:58 Caleb Hammer? This is all you not being able to manage your money, not being able to build a budget, not being able to control what comes in and where it goes. Set aside money for taxes, be able to pay bills on time and not make late fees and have enough money to take it to go to pay the bills.
1:10:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, so.
1:10:13 Speaker 03 I've been like thinking that the more I take out, well, well, I was trying to be more cautious with that card. I actually don't carry that card with me, so I don't spend on it.
1:10:23 Caleb Hammer? Oh, come on, you know, you're gonna get it. You know, you are a walking example of exactly what's gonna happen in your own life.
1:10:31 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:10:32 Caleb Hammer? Either way, what is the point of having a 36% interest card that costs $10 a month to even have? That's stupid. That's bad money.
1:10:38 Speaker 03 That was one of those, bye.
1:10:39 Caleb Hammer? This is bad money regardless, even if it gives, does give you that buffer. It's bad money regardless. Oh, credit one. If we have credit one, we're on the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst when it comes to credit, okay? And to go is honestly kind of pretty damn close to it at this point. Okay, credit one, we're here, baby. Let's go. Mom had a credit one card. What is he gonna think?
1:11:00 Speaker 03 You know, I never knew how bad those were until I was like really paying attention to the show.
1:11:06 Caleb Hammer? I'm glad you're here. Well, actually, well, I'm glad you're here for you, but I am thankful. Thank you for coming on, for being brave enough, because these people are learning things from you. And I am glad that you're at least willing to take the step, even if it's hard and it's weird being on camera. And I know it's like personalities, it gets interesting, but I appreciate you being here and I appreciate what you are doing for the channel, for the community.
1:11:27 Speaker 03 Do what I can.
1:11:28 Caleb Hammer? Well, hopefully you'll do a little for your kid as well by making your life better.
1:11:31 Speaker 03 That's definitely.
1:11:32 Caleb Hammer? Hundred and sixty seven dollars and eight cents owed on this. Guess what? Ten dollars of fees. Woohoo! And four dollars and eighteen cents of interest. Let's go. Thirty dollar minimum to payments. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. No transactions. Fifty nine dollars of fees this year so far. Forty seven dollars of interest. Wonderful. Wonderful. Yay. Everyone loves credit one.
1:11:51 Speaker 03 I think that's like from my credit.
1:11:53 Caleb Hammer? Oh, hold the. Okay, this is your credit. What is this? What is? And, okay, what, what did you owe a thousand to in collections? Two thousand eighty six.
1:12:05 Speaker 03 Would that cup that just not?
1:12:06 Caleb Hammer? Come on, this is the first out of like a million of these. Don't be.
1:12:08 Speaker 03 No, I know, but I'm trying to figure out, is that the, that just recently hit my credit?
1:12:11 Caleb Hammer? I don't know. Let me find out. Original creditor, Finance Limited Partnership, NPC, NCP.
1:12:22 Caleb Hammer? It was open five years ago.
1:12:24 Speaker 03 Five years ago.
1:12:26 Caleb Hammer? For sake, dude, you don't know.
1:12:28 Speaker 03 Is that, it might be Verizon.
1:12:31 Caleb Hammer? Collections number one.
1:12:32 Speaker 03 Can I look that on my?
1:12:33 Caleb Hammer? One thousand eighty six. We can look in a second. I'm gonna keep going though, because there's a lot to get through, let me tell you. And we have sat here for a long time. AT&T Collections, four hundred fifty two. Why do you order AT&T and Verizon?
1:12:46 Speaker 03 So the AT&T is from the exit also had parole fines. He put some wifi in my name and then never paid it.
1:12:56 Caleb Hammer? My collection is number two, so that's that. Oh my gosh. Okay, this is a huge collections. Okay, two thousand forty four. Let's see, what's?
1:13:03 Speaker 03 Oh no, that is Verizon. Yeah.
1:13:04 Caleb Hammer? Oh, good. So we don't know what the original one was. Wonderful. Now, why, why so much Verizon that you did not pay? This is, this is a bad track record. I'm a little nervous for your future with this much collections. It shows that you fall off the board way too often.
1:13:19 Speaker 03 So, okay, when I, that has actually been on there since I, that happened when I was nineteen. That happened when I was nineteen.
1:13:29 Caleb Hammer? If that's the case, it'll fall off in probably about a year, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
1:13:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I had a phone, me and a friend had a phone on the phone plan and we ended up, um, she couldn't pay her bill and I couldn't afford to pay both of hers.
1:13:43 Caleb Hammer? Dangerous. You cannot link things and see what's already happening with you being linked to your parents for your car payment. You're late, you're them. All these other people were late, they're fucking you, they went to collections. This is stupid. You need to stop it and intermingle that I'm almost nervous for you to, you guys aren't ready to get married. You guys aren't ready to get married. You're simply not. Before you even consider marriage, I want you to sit down with the financial advisors that I use at Domain Money. Sit down with them. We're gonna give you a free session with them. Okay?
1:14:09 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:14:10 Caleb Hammer? Do that. Everyone in the audience, by the way, our entire community gets free sessions. Link in the description below. They're a great partner. They're my own personal financial advisors. You guys cannot get married until you guys sit down with them and figure out your finances.
1:14:21 Speaker 03 I did learn a lesson from, you know, that little Verizon situation.
1:14:25 Caleb Hammer? Because you're your parents right now.
1:14:27 Speaker 03 But if I didn't have a car, then like I was screwed.
1:14:30 Caleb Hammer? Your parents right now. With your actions right now. You were going out to, there wasn't insane amounts, but you were going out and eat enough to make, to not be late.
1:14:42 Speaker 04 You would, you could, you'll do, you would, you want.
1:14:46 Caleb Hammer? Reliant energy. We chose not to pay our utility bills as well.
1:14:49 Speaker 03 X had that in my name as well. That recently, I think, got put on there.
1:14:54 Caleb Hammer? It would have still been on your credit.
1:14:56 Speaker 03 So what happened was I moved out. He stayed in the same house. Um, recently, within the last like year, he let somebody else take over the.
1:15:06 Caleb Hammer? The year now?
1:15:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:15:08 Caleb Hammer? This year?
1:15:09 Speaker 03 I did not know it was in my name this whole entire time.
1:15:11 Caleb Hammer? Oh my.
1:15:11 Speaker 03 So he, he left the, the property and let somebody else take over the rent.
1:15:17 Caleb Hammer? Credit. Lock your credit. Sorry.
1:15:19 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:15:19 Caleb Hammer? Lock your credit. You haven't locked your credit yet?
1:15:21 Speaker 03 No.
1:15:21 Caleb Hammer? Cause he obviously knows your credit information to be able to borrow things and I do not trust a criminal.
1:15:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, he has my social, I'm assuming, clearly.
1:15:27 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, lock your credit. Lock credit. Lock credit.
1:15:31 Speaker 03 So I guess that has been in my name for like eight years, that reliant. And then he.
1:15:37 Caleb Hammer? Oh, this is open. This is derogatory right now because it's late. Nope, it's in corrections now.
1:15:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, so that was.
1:15:44 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:15:45 Speaker 03 I don't know what happened with that.
1:15:46 Caleb Hammer? Sure deposit taxes, sounds like some bank. We owed a thousand five hundred fifty three to them.
1:15:50 Speaker 03 Sure deposit, no, that's the sure deposit for the apartment that I got evicted from in twenty eighteen.
1:15:57 Caleb Hammer? Evicted?
1:15:58 Speaker 03 Um, I was sharing an apartment with said, with said friend from Verizon.
1:16:03 Caleb Hammer? Oh, the other responsible one, okay.
1:16:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, and then it, we got evicted because we, um, somebody, we weren't helping each other pay the rent very well. Um, so I was trying to make, either one of us was short and the other one wasn't, and so it just did not get paid.
1:16:21 Caleb Hammer? Autumn Ranch on Swenson Farms.
1:16:23 Speaker 03 That's the eviction, that's the eviction.
1:16:24 Caleb Hammer? So this is more, because this one's nine thousand one hundred forty-nine.
1:16:27 Speaker 03 I did offer, okay, hold on, before you get too out of hand. Um, I did offer them, I, let's see, back in twenty twenty-one, I did not file taxes for a couple of years because I was missing a W two from working a previous job. I had did pay, I did pay a CPA to do my income tax. I got five grand back from, because I didn't get like the, the STEMI's.
1:16:52 Caleb Hammer? Two years of taxes, I forgot. Okay, yep, go on.
1:16:55 Speaker 03 So I got my STEMI's all at one time, plus all my income tax. So I did call that collector, and I said, I can pay you five grand right now to settle it out. They said that my portion of it, because it is a joint one, my portion was six thousand, and they would not let me do anything less.
1:17:12 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh.
1:17:12 Speaker 03 And so when I-
1:17:13 Caleb Hammer? Is that the only time you ever tried?
1:17:15 Speaker 03 That's, I offered to do a payment plan.
1:17:18 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:17:18 Speaker 03 The payment plan was a thousand dollars.
1:17:20 Caleb Hammer? You didn't know, this is what you do. You do that every two weeks. You call them and say, this is all that, I have my name, if you want to close this out, I'll give you five thousand now.
1:17:28 Speaker 03 I did not know that.
1:17:29 Caleb Hammer? You do that every two weeks. If they don't do it, then them, but you just work it out, okay?
1:17:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:17:34 Caleb Hammer? You just keep saying it over and over again. You work with them. Eventually, they, they want their nut. They usually get the permission, the person that's working with you.
1:17:40 Speaker 03 I figure, I mean, I had worked in a debt collection, like medical collections before, and so I did not know that that was like something, the way we did it wasn't the same as that, so I said-
1:17:49 Caleb Hammer? How'd you do it?
1:17:50 Speaker 03 Um, like we just, like, it was like a call center, basically. We just like randomly called the numbers as they came across the screen.
1:17:57 Caleb Hammer? Commission if you closed it out?
1:17:58 Speaker 03 We did get commission, but I-
1:18:01 Caleb Hammer? Couldn't accept anything lower?
1:18:02 Speaker 03 They wouldn't accept anything lower.
1:18:04 Caleb Hammer? Where you worked?
1:18:06 Speaker 03 It had to be like going through like a whole like situation like but yes, but I did offer.
1:18:11 Caleb Hammer? You have any more debt?
1:18:12 Speaker 03 Not that I know of.
1:18:13 Caleb Hammer? Guessing it's about four thousand for IRS for last year plus penalties. Let's just say four thousand for now. Probably gonna owe like four or five this next year. Okay, wonderful. Okay, they said you just spent two hundred fifty dollars on a card to beautify your studio. What is this? Where's this? I didn't see that. What?
1:18:34 Speaker 03 So I paid down a credit card and then I bought a desk from Ikea.
1:18:41 Caleb Hammer? Credit card person. You are not a credit card person. You do not know how to manage your finances at all.
1:18:48 Speaker 03 Nope.
1:18:49 Caleb Hammer? Close all your credit cards. It's so stupid. You have a kid. You have a kid. You have a kid. You have a kid?
1:18:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, probably need to get on that.
1:19:00 Speaker 03 Gotta pay them off first, but I will get them closed.
1:19:02 Caleb Hammer? And your checking account only a few hundred bucks. Amazon selling out, selling out. Who's that? A hundred, hundred twenty-five and then a hundred?
1:19:09 Speaker 03 Car payment and Amazon.
1:19:10 Caleb Hammer? Apple bill. Why do you have so many subscriptions or internet purchases or walking?
1:19:13 Speaker 03 I honestly forget what those are. I know some of them like.
1:19:17 Caleb Hammer? Pull up your subscriptions then.
1:19:18 Speaker 03 Right now? Currently?
1:19:20 Caleb Hammer? Joe Bob's, Minimart, Dutch Bros, Minimart. You're walking in, you're getting some. It's not that expensive. So I know you're getting snacks or energy drinks.
1:19:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's an energy drink. Yeah.
1:19:29 Caleb Hammer? Buy in bulk. Go to Sam's Club. No, I don't know.
1:19:32 Speaker 03 I did. I do buy them in bulk. That's part of the reason I'm like, I mean.
1:19:35 Caleb Hammer? Amazon, Dutch Bros.
1:19:36 Speaker 03 Okay, Amazon, Amazon is.
1:19:38 Caleb Hammer? Fifty dollar Apple bill.
1:19:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm not sure. Hold on.
1:19:41 Caleb Hammer? Wendy's.
1:19:42 Speaker 03 I'm getting there.
1:19:43 Caleb Hammer? Rico Taco. Zip Sheen, great. Zelling money out two hundred forty-five. Is that the car payment too?
1:19:50 Speaker 03 Two forty-five. Yeah, that's so usually my car payment is one twenty-five, but I pay insurance and my phone bill through my mom as well. So two forty-five a week is what my.
1:19:58 Caleb Hammer? Deborah Card sixteen twenty-three. Chick-fil-A, Waterbury. There's so much going down for someone who's laying on their car payment. Are you kidding me? This is irresponsible to the extreme. Dutch Bros, Brookshire, McDonald's, super handy going and getting an energy drink. Zelling money out two hundred forty-five again. This is so much money.
1:20:15 Speaker 03 Two forty-five a week is what goes to my mom for car payment.
1:20:18 Caleb Hammer? You do not have that amount of money. A third of your income before taxes.
1:20:23 Speaker 03 That's a bill though.
1:20:25 Caleb Hammer? Before taxes goes to your mom, a third. For sake, you went and got an energy drink. Cash app out twenty one dollars. Energy drink, energy drink, Apple bill, zolling money out a hundred dollars, super handy. Might have to be doing those to bring in some more income, water break. That's not funny. We don't do that. We don't do that. That's a joke.
1:20:43 Speaker 03 Wait, what was it?
1:20:44 Caleb Hammer? I missed it. That was a joke. We don't actually do those. I just make little naughty little jokes because I have a brain of a three year old when it comes to inappropriate humor. Going inside and getting an energy drink, Apple bill, zip sheen. You zip sheen constantly.
1:21:00 Caleb Hammer? You're affirming?
1:21:01 Speaker 03 Affirm.
1:21:02 Caleb Hammer? Are you affirm?
1:21:03 Speaker 03 That is zip, that's.
1:21:05 Caleb Hammer? I don't know, I'm seeing SPF.
1:21:07 Speaker 03 SPF.
1:21:08 Caleb Hammer? No, SPAFF. Oh, it's forty bucks essentially, thirty one, sorry. Prime video, great, we have very subscription known to man.
1:21:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's what all my, so like.
1:21:20 Caleb Hammer? Have you pulled up your subscriptions yet? Let me see.
1:21:24 Caleb Hammer? Okay, Apple music, cancel it. You can't afford a can of, cancel it. You can't afford it.
1:21:27 Speaker 03 I use that for my.
1:21:28 Caleb Hammer? Use the free version, Disney plus, cancel it. You can't afford it. Nebula, cancel it. You can't.
1:21:34 Speaker 03 I did not mean to do that.
1:21:35 Caleb Hammer? That's why you have it. Peacock, nothing on there anyway. Cancel it. You can't afford it. Watermark photo, something, cancel it. You can't afford it. Yuka, what is that? Yuka? What's a Yuka Yucca?
1:21:44 Speaker 03 So that's like, oh, I think I did that last year. It's like a, it was like a seven dollar.
1:21:48 Caleb Hammer? Cancel it.
1:21:50 Speaker 03 I, it's canceled whenever it comes back up for renewal.
1:21:53 Caleb Hammer? No.
1:21:55 Speaker 03 Well, see.
1:21:56 Caleb Hammer? Paper cut. I scared myself.
1:21:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, well.
1:21:59 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
1:22:00 Speaker 03 It'll be all right.
1:22:01 Caleb Hammer? Wow, no savings, no retirement?
1:22:02 Speaker 03 Uh, I had a retirement at one point in time when I worked for a rent a center. I can't get into the account though. I gotta call him and re like resell my, but I think it was like fifteen hundred dollars in retirement that I was paying towards it. I did want to take that money out and like put it into something else, not like a credit card, but like put it into a different retirement that I had access to.
1:22:22 Caleb Hammer? Roll over.
1:22:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:22:23 Caleb Hammer? How much comes in on a monthly basis? One more time.
1:22:26 Speaker 03 Um, how?
1:22:29 Speaker 03 Thirty five. Roughly.
1:22:31 Caleb Hammer? With the town tax grant and everything, fifteen percent aside for taxes.
1:22:36 Caleb Hammer? Being a little aggressive there, but okay. Okay, so 2,900.
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1:23:09 Caleb Hammer? Seventy-five comes in our monthly basis. Set that money aside for taxes, not an option. What's your utilities that you have to pay towards?
1:23:15 Speaker 03 Um.
1:23:16 Caleb Hammer? Your debt minimum monthly payments are $107.84. So what's your minimum monthly debt payments?
1:23:19 Speaker 03 Let's see, I pay about 150 in, uh, electricity, 60 in water, and 80 in wifi.
1:23:30 Caleb Hammer? Internet, okay. Gas, room, drive, drive.
1:23:33 Speaker 03 I would say maybe like 40 bucks a month. I like live like seven miles from my job. Uh, 20 bucks will last me about almost a week and a half.
1:23:41 Caleb Hammer? I had 141 dollars.
1:23:42 Speaker 03 What? 141 dollars?
1:23:44 Caleb Hammer? You don't know your money.
1:23:45 Speaker 03 What did I do last month that I had to drive?
1:23:47 Caleb Hammer? I'll put it as.
1:23:49 Speaker 03 I really don't.
1:23:50 Caleb Hammer? What did you say, 40? I'm gonna put it as 50, okay. And then how much do you give to your parents for car insurance again?
1:23:56 Speaker 03 310 for car insurance.
1:23:57 Caleb Hammer? Okay, and, uh, phone bill?
1:24:00 Speaker 03 Um, I think it's 150 for a phone bill.
1:24:05 Caleb Hammer? Do you?
1:24:05 Speaker 03 It's a, it's a round, it's a roundabout number. Yeah, I own the phone.
1:24:09 Caleb Hammer? Okay, but you don't have to.
1:24:11 Speaker 03 I mean, no, I don't. But once I get it paid off, like there's, whenever Apple's like, here's.
1:24:17 Caleb Hammer? Dude, I had a phone for multiple years and I was fine.
1:24:20 Speaker 03 But I also use like my phone because like I take pictures at work to like advertise my work.
1:24:25 Caleb Hammer? I guarantee your phone's not gonna be bad a few years from now.
1:24:28 Speaker 03 No, it's, um, yeah, I'm fine. I had to.
1:24:29 Caleb Hammer? When you pay it off, when you pay it off, switch, switch to helium for 15 bucks a month. It's just like T-Mobile towers, okay? Same towers as T-Mobile. This is insane, 150 bucks a month is stupid.
1:24:42 Speaker 03 Well, uh, like
1:24:42 Caleb Hammer? TV fun, anything else to survive, including for the kid as well. Hundred bucks, I think you can make it work. I'm gonna do a hundred fifty. Necessary food is basically just you. And then I'm gonna throw a little extra in for the husband. We're gonna do four hundred fifty bucks a month. Follow the meal plan. Yes. Kidding me? He's not even there. That thing eats boob. And you just, you just need a meal prep a couple of times a week. It's super chill. Follow the meal plan and the budgeting course, okay?
1:25:05 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:25:05 Caleb Hammer? Follow it to your needs. Medical healthcare, anything that goes on a monthly basis that you have to pay for?
1:25:09 Speaker 03 Pay, um, sixty seven for insurance for me and him both, and he is on Medicaid. So he's double insured.
1:25:16 Caleb Hammer? Sixty seven, okay.
1:25:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's for.
1:25:18 Caleb Hammer? You're on your parents for everything, but not that. Okay.
1:25:21 Speaker 03 Um, yeah, my stepdad got a new job, and so my mom was like, you gotta figure it out. Um.
1:25:27 Caleb Hammer? I don't care. Okay, so, uh, how much for the babysitting on a monthly basis?
1:25:32 Speaker 03 Uh, forty a week, so.
1:25:34 Caleb Hammer? Oh, just forty a week?
1:25:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, it's the one day.
1:25:38 Caleb Hammer? One sixty a month, okay.
1:25:41 Caleb Hammer? Not bad. Anything else that has to be in the budget that I am not taking into account for?
1:25:44 Speaker 03 No. No, I don't think so.
1:25:47 Caleb Hammer? This is a roundabout budget. We don't have the, we, you know, we sit down, hour and a half, whatever, something like that. You're gonna get more detail when you actually go through the programs and learn how to actually go through your statements and make a concrete budget. But this is a rough idea of it. It's close. You made it.
1:26:08 Caleb Hammer? This is even with setting money aside for taxes, two thousand four hundred thirty-four to survive on a monthly basis and eighty-four cents. If your gas bill is that low. You can cut back some of these things, but either way, two thousand nine hundred seventy-five. Car insurance, get some quotes and see what it would be like, just you getting it, okay? Do you have like a bunch of tickets and stuff?
1:26:24 Speaker 03 Well, can I do like a car insurance if the car is not in my name? The car insurance amount?
1:26:29 Caleb Hammer? It's not in your name?
1:26:30 Speaker 03 The car's not my name.
1:26:32 Caleb Hammer? The car's almost in your name, and then quote it out, and then quote it out, okay?
1:26:35 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:26:36 Caleb Hammer? Uh, quote it out. Uh, I mean, you can get car, it's, it's, it's, it might just be easier if we just.
1:26:41 Speaker 03 Wait, did you figure in my car payment on that budget?
1:26:44 Caleb Hammer? That's part of the debts.
1:26:45 Speaker 03 Okay, alright, cool.
1:26:46 Caleb Hammer? You can make room on that. You can make room in your phone bill. You do have extra money right now. And I think you can cut back in some areas, and that car payment will be ending here shortly. But five hundred forty dollars is left right now on a monthly basis. With that, you know what's kind of interesting? With that, let's just snowball this guy. First month, I mean, you take care of the two smallest cars. That's easy. And then you mostly pay, mostly pay off the platinum. Then your second month, you pay off the plat- rest of the platinum in the one mail. Okay, wonderful. Then the American bank is paid off in month number three. And then by that point, the car payment's already done naturally. And now you have extra money, you have an extra five hundred hours a month to start going towards that. That doubles it. That means in month number four, gross is halfway paid off. And month
1:27:31 Caleb Hammer? number five, gross is fully paid off.
1:27:34 Caleb Hammer? Forget about month, uh, credit one, but that's included in there. Let's call that four and a half month. So you're in the fifth month. That's the same. You're happy through the fifth month. Okay. Yeah. You're debt free besides collections in five months. Boom. Easy. That's if you actually manage and act like an adult and be responsible. Then pay off your phone, switch to a cheaper carrier. Boom. That saves you more money, allows you to start sending money aside for investments, allows you to start being able to pay off last year's taxes because you need, you do need to claim that. We can save that for another four months. So let's call this eight months. And you get a fully funded emergency fund after your debts are paid off. We're looking at about needed for you to survive as long as the boyfriend, uh, fiance stays there in every living way possible.
1:28:15 Caleb Hammer? At that rate, we are talking, I'm gonna say you need about, yeah, get about, yeah, ten thousand bucks, ten thousand bucks saved up. So boom, let's call it a year and a quarter, a year and a quarter. You are completely debt free except for collections, including paying off your IRS debt of the past. Still have to owe on this past year, but you can file for an extension. And that'll start coming up at that time anyway. But either way, a year and a half, you're debt free except for collections. You have a fully funded emergency fund. And at that point, you can start negotiating down some collections if you want. Save up a couple thousand bucks, start going down the list and saying, hey, guess what? I have a couple thousand bucks. I can pay this off. I can pay off your higher balance. If you're not gonna accept it, that's okay. I have another collections because I've spent my life a lot and I'm gonna call them next after this phone call's done. Okay. Once this phone call's done, if you don't accept
1:28:59 Caleb Hammer? this money, I'm giving it to the next collections person. Okay. Goodbye.
1:29:02 Speaker 03 Okay. No, I did, I did pay off like two of my debts on my collections, like this, within the last, like, year.
1:29:09 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Well, we're gonna make a lot more progress than that.
1:29:11 Speaker 03 I was super excited about that.
1:29:12 Caleb Hammer? And I think you can do that in about, I'm guessing, let's call it another six months to be conservative. So I say two years, you are completely debt free, no collections, no debt whatsoever. You own your car right out and it's worth a little bit of money and. Fully funded emergency fund, then at that point, make sure you're always setting aside money for taxes for what comes in after that. You are then trying to put towards living 50%.
1:29:43 Caleb Hammer? Invest investing minimum 20%.
1:29:45 Speaker 03 Okay, like in stocks or like what?
1:29:48 Caleb Hammer? You know, we'll talk at that point. There is no point to talk about that now. We'll talk about tax advantage retirement accounts at that point, but again, and you'll go through, you'll have the investing costs as well, but either way.
1:29:57 Speaker 03 Perfect.
1:29:58 Caleb Hammer? You know, self employment things, we can look at separate IRs, we can look at whatever. So 401Ks, there's a lot of different options. Either way.
1:30:05 Caleb Hammer? At that point, 20% towards investing and then if you're actually 50% on needs, 20% to investing, you'll do 30% on fun. If you need more to go towards needs, you take that from fun, not from investing because retirement matters and you do not want your kid to have to take care of you when they are older.
1:30:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm okay.
1:30:21 Caleb Hammer? Cause it is not their fault that you've fucked up.
1:30:23 Speaker 03 Nope.
1:30:24 Caleb Hammer? So that's where we're at. You got this.
1:30:26 Speaker 03 I can do it.
1:30:27 Caleb Hammer? Follow up channel. Come on the follow up, our separate channel for follow ups. We do one a week. Come on there.
1:30:33 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:30:35 Caleb Hammer? Make sure. Yeah. I'm excited to see your progress throughout. You're going to make substantial progress. What did I say? I said about four months and you'll pay off all these. So I want you to come back in four months and I want to see every single one of those gone. And then that's when we start tackling the past IRS at that point and we'll read just so four months.
1:30:52 Speaker 03 Four months.
1:30:52 Caleb Hammer? You are on the follow up channel. Okay.
1:30:54 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:30:54 Caleb Hammer? With those debts paid off, deal?
1:30:56 Speaker 03 Sure.
1:30:57 Caleb Hammer? Spending a budget, you overspent zero out of 10 debt, you have collections, zero out of 10 emergency fund, there's nothing, zero out of 10 retirement. There's a little bit sitting there in another account, one out of 10 real estate, zero out of 10 hammer financial score rounded up point five out of 10. Hey guys, come to the post show. We might call the husband and confront him about how this is all. Yeah, you didn't even think about that, did you? Yeah, we're about to fuck up your world. Or happy, hopefully make it better. We confront a lot of drama and everything in the post show. So make sure to join our YouTube membership. It really helps our channel out through the ups and downs of ad rates. We have tens of thousands of hours of extra content and exclusive financial audits on there. Join Hammer Elite. It's the best value for your money. Link in the description below. We'll see you guys in the post show. There was something we had to cut. From the main audit.
1:31:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:31:42 Caleb Hammer? May have gotten us demonetized in the main show. It may have destroyed her life, but because it's behind the paywall, we're allowed to talk about this insane relationship tea with you and your future husband. It's about to get crazy, so we're gonna unleash it.
1:31:54 Speaker 03 My fiance is.
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