I Exposed Her Hidden Affair On Financial Audit

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:55Caleb Hammer?

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• 0:58Speaker 03

  You're still texting him today?

• 1:00Speaker 04

  That was earlier.

• 1:01Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, earlier this morning.

• 1:02Speaker 03

  I don't know what I said.

• 1:03Caleb Hammer?

  She said yesterday that she loves him.

• 1:05Speaker 04

  He's a friend, okay?

• 1:07Speaker 03

  You threw the friendship down the drain when you cheated on me with him.

• 1:09Caleb Hammer?

  She's cheating in the middle of this episode.

• 1:12Speaker 04

  Uh, that's the name of one of my sisters.

• 1:14Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 1:14Speaker 05

  She's hiding the contact under her sister's name.

• 1:16Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:17Speaker 05

  She's hiding the, she's hiding his contact.

• 1:20Caleb Hammer?

  Is Al in the future of your picture?

• 1:23Speaker 04

  I have options to leave. I have an out.

• 1:25Caleb Hammer?

  Kinda sounded like a breakup.

• 1:28Caleb Hammer?

  Actually?

• 1:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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• 2:06Caleb Hammer?

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• 2:27Speaker 04

  Hi, this is Stella.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  Hi, I'm Al, 22, and this, from East Tennessee.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  You didn't say your age, you can't, I'm scared.

• 2:36Speaker 04

  23, and this is Financial Audit.

• 2:40Caleb Hammer?

  Oh my, the amount of times we have practiced that now.

• 2:43Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 2:46Speaker 04

  Listen, my brain is just...

• 2:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, she didn't say her age, and I was like, oh shoot, I guess I'm going now.

• 2:52Caleb Hammer?

  What the hell is even that? You're 22? Looks like you're a freshman in high school.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm 22.

• 3:00Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. And you look like you have down some trip. Stella, what do you do for a living?

• 3:05Speaker 04

  Uh, I actually work at a hotel. I do breakfast every morning.

• 3:08Caleb Hammer?

  Breakfast!

• 3:09Speaker 04

  Yep, breakfast. I actually do, um, I wake up at 4:00 a.m. every morning, be there by 5:30 in the morning, make sure everything is ready and prepped for all the kids, or not the kids, well, there are kids involved, kids, humans.

• 3:25Caleb Hammer?

  Special hotel then? He goes to?

• 3:29Caleb Hammer?

  For his prey?

• 3:30Speaker 04

  No, um, we just, you know, make the breakfast, me and my coworker.

• 3:35Caleb Hammer?

  Sure, we love breakfast. Big breakfast guy myself, love it. And you love grilled cheese. How much you make?

• 3:43Speaker 04

  I make, oh gosh, 15 an hour.

• 3:46Caleb Hammer?

  Sure. What does that translate to? I know you're in a little more rural area of East Tennessee, small town. So that will stretch further. It's not like incredible, okay?

• 3:54Speaker 03

  I'm good.

• 3:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 3:56Speaker 04

  I make 22, or no, I make 2,000 every month.

• 4:01Caleb Hammer?

  Net?

• 4:02Speaker 04

  Yes, net.

• 4:03Caleb Hammer?

  Beautiful, love it.

• 4:04Speaker 04

  Average out 20, yeah.

• 4:06Caleb Hammer?

  It's incredible, it's wonderful.

• 4:09Caleb Hammer?

  What's going on up there, buddy? I'm seeing a lot of things in that nose.

• 4:13Speaker 04

  Oh, gosh. I told you to blow it before.

• 4:16Caleb Hammer?

  What's happening? Look at that. Can you, can you do this?

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:19Caleb Hammer?

  Other way?

• 4:21Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 4:23Speaker 04

  Do you have a tissue or something?

• 4:23Caleb Hammer?

  What is happening? Here, here, buddy. You're sniffling into the, some people do audio only, which honestly, if you do, you're making a mistake. This is a very visual show. Yeah, there you go.

• 4:34Speaker 04

  I'm actually a Hammer Elite member.

• 4:37Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, thank you. Best membership on YouTube, we love it.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  Always had that problem where I can't get it to blow right.

• 4:42Caleb Hammer?

  Well, that's because you did this instead of blowing.

• 4:49Speaker 04

  He actually said...

• 4:50Caleb Hammer?

  Don't mass shoot me with that face right now, that was terrifying.

• 4:54Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, he's good again, he laughed, okay. Al, what do you do for a living?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  I work at, um...

• 5:00Caleb Hammer?

  What is, what is it? What's your job?

• 5:01Speaker 03

  It's an amusement park, I do a coaster and a tubing.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  It's not really an amusement park.

• 5:05Caleb Hammer?

  You do the coaster and the tubing?

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:07Caleb Hammer?

  Are you being taken there on a bus, bus, daily to do coaster and tubing?

• 5:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 5:14Caleb Hammer?

  What do you do with the coaster and tubing?

• 5:16Speaker 03

  Goes around a tubing, well, I load the gas on the...

• 5:19Caleb Hammer?

  Oh!

• 5:20Speaker 03

  Load the gas or unload the gas. I have different stations every day, so...

• 5:25Caleb Hammer?

  You get to get all up in there?

• 5:28Speaker 03

  Go up and down.

• 5:29Caleb Hammer?

  Huh?

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Sorry?

• 5:30Caleb Hammer?

  You get to get all up in there when you're strapping them in?

• 5:33Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  No, he instructs them.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  They, they have to strap themselves in.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  We are not allowed to touch our seat belts. It's a liability issue.

• 5:43Speaker 04

  I mean, to be honest, though...

• 5:45Caleb Hammer?

  Did they just tell you that?

• 5:46Speaker 03

  No, they told, that's what everyone has to do. Only thing we can do is pull it out and around for them so that way they can hook it in themselves.

• 5:52Caleb Hammer?

  We join our heroes locked in a battle of wits. Please always pull out because I would be terrified to see what you guys would create.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 6:00Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Actually...

• 6:01Caleb Hammer?

  You don't have a kid, do you?

• 6:02Speaker 03

  No.

• 6:02Caleb Hammer?

  Are you guys married?

• 6:03Speaker 04

  No.

• 6:04Speaker 03

  Engaged.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  It's three.

• 6:06Caleb Hammer?

  Wow, it, okay. Congratulations. Well, where'd you get that from?

• 6:12Speaker 03

  Um, J, K, K. I almost said J for some reason.

• 6:16Speaker 04

  Every kiss begins with K.

• 6:18Caleb Hammer?

  Ah, I'm gonna kill myself! There it is, that's the thing that they say. That's, that is it. Well, what do you, what do you make in that position?

• 6:26Speaker 03

  Making the position, uh, 15 an hour.

• 6:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so the same, saying you're getting that 40 hours?

• 6:32Speaker 03

  Yes, 40 hours.

• 6:33Caleb Hammer?

  So 2,000 a month?

• 6:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  I think it's about 1,800 a month.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, around 1,800 a month.

• 6:37Caleb Hammer?

  Why, why are you getting more, he's getting less?

• 6:39Speaker 04

  I think it's because of the overtime that I get.

• 6:42Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you're getting overtime, okay. Very good. Listen, guys, I love, love, love is in the air. It's a beautiful thing. 3,800 hours, how long have we been engaged?

• 6:52Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Uh, since May.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  Is it May? I thought it was April.

• 6:56Speaker 03

  No, it was in April.

• 6:58Speaker 04

  Are you sure it was in April?

• 7:00Speaker 03

  I'm pretty sure it was in May.

• 7:01Caleb Hammer?

  Our financial producer said that you actually make more than her, but maybe that was just an odd month. So from April, very good, how long have we been together?

• 7:08Speaker 04

  Well, we've been together for almost a year.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  Yes, almost a year.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Um, and we got together previously and broke it off back in high school.

• 7:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:18Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. You broke it off in high school? Well, I'm not gonna freak out about high school. High school's forever ago.

• 7:24Speaker 04

  It was like two months that we were together, and then I had to move. So we broke it off then.

• 7:30Speaker 03

  It was like...

• 7:31Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd you guys get back together?

• 7:33Speaker 04

  Oh, well, we were supposed to be fuck buddies.

• 7:37Speaker 04

  That's how it was supposed to start.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  But I was actually, um, in South Carolina at the time. And, so I was gonna, I told him, hey, make a trip to, you know, South Carolina, we can hang out, you buy me dinner, you know, do all that stuff, buy me dinner, we cuddle.

• 7:55Caleb Hammer?

  And you're like that?

• 7:56Speaker 04

  You know?

• 7:57Speaker 03

  There was never how, it was...

• 7:58Speaker 04

  No, I texted you.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, you texted me.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  It was Messenger, when I was just like out of a whim, I was like, okay, I'm gonna text him, see what he's up to. And then that's how it started.

• 8:11Caleb Hammer?

  You got a fuck dog in you?

• 8:14Speaker 04

  I think I was just desperate at that time, not gonna lie.

• 8:17Caleb Hammer?

  And I know you got that dick. I know you got that nine-incher.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Oh, listen, okay.

• 8:22Speaker 04

  I don't know about that.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  We never talked about that. When we texted, we'd started talking, and I was like, you know, trying to flirt with you every now and again, trying to like see where we could go back to where we were. And then finally, we got back together November 2nd. And then a month later, you moved in.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you wanted to get together with me on Halloween.

• 8:43Speaker 03

  Yes, on Halloween.

• 8:45Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, no. Is that traumatic or something, or?

• 8:47Speaker 04

  No, no, it's just, um...

• 8:50Caleb Hammer?

  Look at you, big dog.

• 8:52Speaker 03

  It's my favorite, it's our favorite holiday.

• 8:54Caleb Hammer?

  Flirting on Facebook Messenger, moving a girl in that quick? Right on Halloween, her favorite holiday? Look at you.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I moved in.

• 9:02Caleb Hammer?

  And how long ago was that? Was that last year?

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:05Caleb Hammer?

  Please don't, oh, that's actually really short.

• 9:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, December 4th was when I moved into his house with his dad and two sisters.

• 9:11Caleb Hammer?

  His dad, oh, is that where you guys live right now?

• 9:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, right now.

• 9:14Caleb Hammer?

  That's okay, I mean, you are a little younger, but I mean...

• 9:18Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you did have a pregnancy scare in February, though.

• 9:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:21Caleb Hammer?

  What's a scare?

• 9:22Speaker 04

  Uh, well...

• 9:22Caleb Hammer?

  Is it a scare plus?

• 9:24Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, it was just a scare. I took a test, negative, but, uh, I...

• 9:28Caleb Hammer?

  What was the scare? Sounds like you weren't pregnant.

• 9:31Speaker 04

  I hadn't had my monthly in like two or three months, so... And then after I took the test...

• 9:36Caleb Hammer?

  It's the extra chromosome.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I had a previously before this engagement, I had an engagement before him, and I ended up having a miscarriage with that person. And he can stay with his thing that he's got in Texas. Oh, we are in Texas. No, not him, uh, my ex-fiance, he has a new fiance, who is, uh...

• 10:03Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, jeez, you're, yeah, your engagement ended last year, and then you immediately got with him?

• 10:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:09Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  I had a few relationships, even a fuck buddy at that time, too.

• 10:13Caleb Hammer?

  So what happened? Why'd the, why'd the relationship end? And you went and found this.

• 10:19Speaker 04

  Oh, God, that's weird. You know, one of my sisters actually said you look like that.

• 10:24Caleb Hammer?

  Well.

• 10:27Caleb Hammer?

  Because of that.

• 10:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  Actually.

• 10:31Caleb Hammer?

  It's the it's the. Get rid of it.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  I did get rid of it one time.

• 10:37Caleb Hammer?

  Try it again.

• 10:40Caleb Hammer?

  Why did engagement end?

• 10:43Speaker 04

  He cheated on me.

• 10:44Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, geez.

• 10:45Speaker 04

  A year before with.

• 10:47Caleb Hammer?

  You saved them?

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I thought I could save the marriage because his mom was like, oh, you know.

• 10:52Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, with two lesbians. That's an interesting.

• 10:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it was in the Walmart parking lot and his car. Walmart parking lot and his car. He said that they are worried him and. Yeah.

• 11:04Caleb Hammer?

  They ripped him in the Walmart parking lot.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  That's what he said.

• 11:07Caleb Hammer?

  Two lesbians took this man, forced him into the car and ripped him.

• 11:12Speaker 04

  Yep, that's what he said.

• 11:13Caleb Hammer?

  Walmart parking lot.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  That's what he told me when I confronted him. I was like, I actually was on the back porch and.

• 11:19Caleb Hammer?

  I want to get raped by two lesbians. I don't know about you.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  I don't know about that one.

• 11:23Caleb Hammer?

  Well, I see that's mine. You got the dog in there. Look at you, little freak.

• 11:28Speaker 04

  I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 11:33Speaker 04

  I don't know, like, you've read the books that I read, though, so you know what I'm into.

• 11:39Caleb Hammer?

  Stop it. I'm trying to imagine getting raped by two lesbians right now.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  That's a bad idea. I wouldn't do that.

• 11:46Caleb Hammer?

  I heard that dick, that dude's dick hit the bottom of the table the moment we started talking about it.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  No, um, but.

• 11:54Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so we got. You broke up with him for getting.

• 11:58Speaker 04

  No, no, no, I didn't break up with him at that time. No, he said that they ripped him, but that's not what actually happened. They sent me the text messages that they had between the two.

• 12:08Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so why did the engagement end?

• 12:10Speaker 04

  Uh, well, he was being a narcissistic little prick.

• 12:16Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 12:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:17Caleb Hammer?

  How?

• 12:18Speaker 04

  Well, he did say that he was going to his friend's house and we went to his friend's house when he just bought a car. And a few weeks later, he was saying, oh, we never did that. We never went to your my friend's house. We never hung out with his with him or anything like that.

• 12:35Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so as a guest later, I'm glad you got rid of him. I mean, okay, okay, okay, okay. But now I want to focus on you guys because you guys are together. And we have a very interesting stack, including a payday loan at the top of it, by the way, but. But you guys are together. How's the state of this relationship? How we doing?

• 12:52Caleb Hammer?

  Wow, that was an aggressive silence. Let's start with you, Al.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  I think things are going pretty well lately.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  Well, um.

• 13:08Caleb Hammer?

  He's laying down that duck.

• 13:11Speaker 04

  He thinks it's fine. It's not. I have had issues. I've had issues with him.

• 13:16Caleb Hammer?

  Was it Al?

• 13:17Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 13:17Caleb Hammer?

  Little Al?

• 13:19Speaker 04

  I'm okay, he is.

• 13:20Caleb Hammer?

  What the fuck is Al doing?

• 13:21Speaker 04

  It's more of his family on top of that.

• 13:24Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, well, that's his family. Leave his family.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  Why get mad at me for them?

• 13:27Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, I get mad at sweet Al.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  I'm like, what did he say fuck me for?

• 13:31Speaker 04

  Your dad, he thinks he knows everything. None of you guys in the house have common sense. I'm being serious, like, seriously. None of y'all have common sense.

• 13:38Caleb Hammer?

  Y'all, why are you looping them in? Poor Al.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  Because he doesn't have common sense. He doesn't have common sense.

• 13:44Caleb Hammer?

  No, he's just a sweet little boy.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  I still got common sense.

• 13:48Speaker 04

  No.

• 13:48Caleb Hammer?

  Well.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Some things I don't think through, yeah, but most of the time I do think things through.

• 13:53Caleb Hammer?

  Most of the time?

• 13:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, most of them. Mostly at work when I could get fired.

• 13:58Caleb Hammer?

  Well, it sounds like you might get fired from this relationship if it's not going. What's your issue? What's going on?

• 14:02Speaker 04

  Well, um, sorry.

• 14:04Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, well, I mean, he did say in the pre-interview that he feels like you're always mad at him. Why?

• 14:08Speaker 04

  I am always mad at him.

• 14:10Caleb Hammer?

  Why? Been together for like five minutes. What are you doing?

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Well, I tell him, hey, like, for instance, today at the hotel, I was like, hey, can you gather up all our stuff, you know, and everything, pack things up? Because I was doing my makeup. Took me an hour. I don't usually take an hour to do my makeup.

• 14:26Caleb Hammer?

  This took an hour?

• 14:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I tried really hard, okay? I think it looks amazing, or whatever, um.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  But, yeah, I told him, hey, can you, like, gather all the stuff, pack away the things that you can pack away, like, you know where it goes to and everything? Because I have a set list of everything where everything goes. I'm very organized at times and.

• 14:49Caleb Hammer?

  At times.

• 14:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:50Caleb Hammer?

  Very organized at times.

• 14:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I'm not.

• 14:54Caleb Hammer?

  So words, continue.

• 14:55Speaker 04

  But, um, he does that. He packs all his stuff and puts all his stuff away, and my stuff is just still scattered around the room. And I was like, okay, well, common sense would tell you.

• 15:06Caleb Hammer?

  Well, okay.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, the common sense would tell you to put it on the bed. I had to tell him myself, hey, can you put the stuff that's there on the bed? That's mine, that you don't know where it goes, and so that way I can pack it up in just a moment.

• 15:17Caleb Hammer?

  Why don't you just pack up your own shit?

• 15:19Speaker 04

  I was busy doing stuff. I was doing my makeup.

• 15:21Caleb Hammer?

  Bro was busy too.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Packing his stuff up. He already was ready. He was already done.

• 15:26Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but he's just being sweet, innocent Al, just hanging out in the hotel room. Let him hang out. Look at him.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  He's not sweet. Okay, he is, but he's not.

• 15:33Caleb Hammer?

  How sweet. Give us the other side of Al that I'm not seeing. Because right now, besides diddling kids, not seeing much wrong with him. That's a big thing.

• 15:42Speaker 03

  Hey, I don't do anything against.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  It's what he doesn't do.

• 15:44Caleb Hammer?

  What does he not do? Because I know he lays down that dick.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  Well.

• 15:51Caleb Hammer?

  You got that dog in me. I see you. Look at you. King.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Nah, uh, whenever we're having like an argument or a conversation or something like, um, about something that happened here recently.

• 16:05Caleb Hammer?

  Al argues?

• 16:06Speaker 04

  No, I'm the one who argues. He doesn't do anything. He shuts down completely. It's like the opposite from my last relationship. I shut down. My last one didn't. He shuts down. I don't. He's the one shutting down, not saying anything.

• 16:19Caleb Hammer?

  I know we have lots of downs in this relationship. I get it. Continue. What happens? Tell me.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 04

  So we were arguing. Well, actually, first he came into the room.

• 16:30Caleb Hammer?

  The hotel room? We're still on that?

• 16:31Speaker 04

  No, no, no, this was like previously. This was like, what, maybe a month ago?

• 16:35Speaker 03

  No, probably.

• 16:36Caleb Hammer?

  He says it's the opposite, by the way. He says that you're always the one who shuts down when he presses you on anything. He said that in the pre-interview.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  I shut down.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  You shut down when I confronted you?

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Say anything. You're literally emotionless.

• 16:48Caleb Hammer?

  Well, maybe let's give Al a chance to say something.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  I'm not motionless. It's a defense mechanism.

• 16:54Caleb Hammer?

  Tell us what's going on. This is your this is your time to speak.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  Mechanism.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  Well, I would like for like if we're in an argument for your side of the opinion to come on.

• 17:02Caleb Hammer?

  Why do you have to argue?

• 17:03Speaker 03

  As long as, as long as, as long as you don't start yelling right in the argument.

• 17:07Caleb Hammer?

  Does she? Frequently?

• 17:08Speaker 03

  Not not frequently, but every once in a while it does happen, but.

• 17:12Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 17:14Speaker 03

  As long as you don't start yelling right away, I won't shut down. It's the yelling that makes me shut down.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't yell.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Sometimes you do.

• 17:23Speaker 04

  And my voice is loud because I'm normally a loud person. I don't yell.

• 17:28Caleb Hammer?

  Well, I know that yelling is a trigger for him because of his mommy.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  No, it wasn't that.

• 17:32Speaker 04

  No?

• 17:34Speaker 03

  No.

• 17:34Speaker 04

  Then why? Oh, wait, is it one of your exes?

• 17:39Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, sweet Al, what's happening?

• 17:40Speaker 03

  That was just lived with her and.

• 17:45Caleb Hammer?

  By some lesbians?

• 17:46Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no. It was quite, no, it wasn't even close to that. It was just a mentally abusive, physically abusive.

• 17:55Caleb Hammer?

  Physically?

• 18:01Speaker 04

  Or maybe if he had some common sense, maybe he wouldn't get mad. I'm serious, like, literally, it's one of the biggest things about you that bothers me is that you don't have common sense.

• 18:10Caleb Hammer?

  Get, get, get, get, okay, what? Please, tell me. Give me some insight into Al's common sense and lack thereof.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  Well, he thinks that he knows everything, so.

• 18:18Caleb Hammer?

  Do you?

• 18:19Speaker 03

  No, no, not all the time.

• 18:21Speaker 04

  Well, you you portray that you do.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  I'll say something like, I think they closed it this time, and then you portray that as, I think I know everything.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Yes, I do.

• 18:29Caleb Hammer?

  That's it? Everyone always has the, I think they closed it this time. Oh, no, that's wrong. Everyone has that conversation. That's what happens.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  He thinks that since I've been out of the state for a while, that I don't like, no. Like, he thinks he knows more than I do about the hours and stuff.

• 18:46Speaker 03

  Never once said that to you.

• 18:47Caleb Hammer?

  What hours?

• 18:48Speaker 04

  Like a store, like the bookstore.

• 18:50Caleb Hammer?

  Who gives a?

• 18:52Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 18:53Speaker 04

  Because I like going to the bookstore.

• 18:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, and he got the hour wrong, so correct him.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Well, it's gonna ruin my day.

• 19:01Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 19:02Speaker 04

  It ruins my day if I don't get to go to the bookstore or to like Walmart. Like, there's some.

• 19:06Caleb Hammer?

  Look up the hours.

• 19:07Speaker 04

  I do, but he tells me that, oh.

• 19:10Caleb Hammer?

  And he got it wrong. Who cares? Who cares?

• 19:13Speaker 04

  It bothers me.

• 19:14Caleb Hammer?

  What? Okay, well, that's his lack of common sense. That's what we're going crazy about?

• 19:21Speaker 04

  And then your dad, on top of that, also is like, oh, the rental car is gonna be a thousand dollars to go on the trip to pick up my sister. And I'm over here talking to my boss and she's like, oh, no, it'd just be this amount. And then I actually look it up and it's, I think, like, one fifty, one sixty?

• 19:39Speaker 03

  Okay, I didn't think about the car rental.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  Okay, but then.

• 19:42Speaker 03

  Well, why does that matter? My dad said that.

• 19:45Speaker 04

  Because he's part of you.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  He didn't know that. He doesn't rent cars. He just gave us his educated, what he thought we used to do because it used to go by miles.

• 19:53Caleb Hammer?

  I'm confused. Al thought the relationship is going well. You're saying not. Why is there a split in this?

• 19:57Speaker 04

  He doesn't give me what I want, what I need.

• 19:59Caleb Hammer?

  What is it? You gotta give some examples. So far, it's just the bookstore hours.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Um, well, it's that also, like, um, I'm a very, you know, spicy person in the bedroom.

• 20:12Caleb Hammer?

  Did I read you wrong? Did I read it wrong? Okay, what? So he's not giving you the spice?

• 20:16Speaker 04

  No, none of this.

• 20:18Caleb Hammer?

  I'll ask. Okay, what?

• 20:19Speaker 04

  Well, uh, he's recently read one of the books that I like. That's a spicy book.

• 20:24Caleb Hammer?

  Yep, classic. Every woman reads the books and then.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  No, this one doesn't have that in it. Well, maybe.

• 20:30Caleb Hammer?

  Of course it does. And then they all get their hand brushed on the sidewalk and then they claim. TikTok, I don't know, crazy. You are wild. Continue.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  Um, and he's read the book and stuff and I want to do that, but the thing is he's very timid. The knife scene.

• 20:45Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 20:45Speaker 04

  The knife scene.

• 20:47Caleb Hammer?

  Go on.

• 20:48Speaker 04

  He, so the MMC stabs the mattress and instructs the female main character to.

• 20:57Speaker 04

  The knife.

• 20:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, and you want him to make you the knife?

• 21:02Speaker 04

  Well, yes, but.

• 21:03Caleb Hammer?

  You're right. I might not do that with my girl either.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  And then there's some other stuff in the book too that I want to try. Blindfolding, mass talk, you know, things like that.

• 21:14Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, well, that's more simple. You can you blindfold her?

• 21:19Speaker 03

  I can.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  You're too timid.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Never let me try.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  You're too timid. You don't do it right.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  Don't let me try. You just assume that I'm not gonna do it right. So you just take that as your right.

• 21:29Speaker 04

  You don't do it right.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  You've never let me try. How, why would you know?

• 21:33Speaker 04

  Because it's your energy. Your energy that you put into it's all wrong. I don't like it.

• 21:40Speaker 03

  Never tried.

• 21:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 21:42Caleb Hammer?

  He's not a chill dude?

• 21:43Speaker 04

  He is a chill dude.

• 21:47Speaker 04

  I don't know. It's just.

• 21:48Caleb Hammer?

  He's just chill Al.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  His energy is not what I want. It's mostly me, I guess. It's just not what I want.

• 21:55Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so you're bored with the, the, the sex life. Okay, that happens. What else? What, what else?

• 21:59Speaker 04

  I do think that you spend way too much money on me all the time by getting me gifts and things.

• 22:05Caleb Hammer?

  Did you propose to this?

• 22:07Speaker 03

  Huh?

• 22:07Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd you propose?

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Because I do love her.

• 22:11Caleb Hammer?

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• 25:16Speaker 03

  I have an answer for that.

• 25:17Caleb Hammer?

  I wouldn't either.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  I just know.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  I knew she was the one.

• 25:26Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so you got cheated on in your last relationship, right?

• 25:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:29Caleb Hammer?

  Okay. Has there ever been infidelity in this relationship?

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:33Caleb Hammer?

  Happens all the, okay, this show, the infidelity is crazy. Who'd you, who'd you get with?

• 25:39Speaker 04

  It was me.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  She cheated on me.

• 25:40Caleb Hammer?

  What the?

• 25:44Caleb Hammer?

  So you got cheated on, then now you're cheating on Al. Sweet Al, perfect Al.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:48Caleb Hammer?

  I knew you could do no wrong. I knew it.

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, and she still won't block him.

• 25:52Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 25:53Speaker 04

  He's a friend, okay?

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Do the friendship down the drain when you cheated on me with him.

• 25:58Caleb Hammer?

  I would say so.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Okay, well.

• 26:04Caleb Hammer?

  Sweet Al, you could do no wrong. You're a perfect butterfly.

• 26:08Caleb Hammer?

  What the happened?

• 26:10Speaker 04

  Um.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  And you changed the code on your phone, so now I can't even see if you're still texting.

• 26:14Caleb Hammer?

  What the fuck?

• 26:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did that for a reason. He went through my phone.

• 26:20Caleb Hammer?

  Excited. What happened?

• 26:21Speaker 04

  He went through my phone.

• 26:22Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, cuz you cheated on him cuz you're a.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, and I didn't like that. He actually took my phone when.

• 26:27Caleb Hammer?

  Didn't like that you cheated on him?

• 26:29Speaker 04

  No, I didn't like the fact that he went through my phone. I have security issues. When I was a kid, no, like, listen, no, listen, okay? I have, when I was from the age of about 13 to 14, no, not 13, maybe like, eight, from the age of eight to 13, 14, I was in a house with my stepdad and he had cameras everywhere in the house.

• 26:52Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so I'm gonna go cheat on my fiance?

• 26:54Speaker 04

  That's not how that stemmed up, but.

• 26:57Caleb Hammer?

  Well, clearly it did. When did you, when did you do this?

• 27:00Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh, I don't even know.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  He caught me about, I wanna say.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Caught you twice.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think three times actually.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Twice, but.

• 27:12Caleb Hammer?

  Why are you with her? She cheated on you three times.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  No, just twice. I don't know where the third time's coming from.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  I thought you caught me like three times.

• 27:21Caleb Hammer?

  Maybe the third time's ongoing. Who the knows? So when? When was the first caught?

• 27:26Speaker 04

  I wanna say about a month after he proposed to me.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, probably.

• 27:33Speaker 04

  He caught me.

• 27:34Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, how long were you doing it?

• 27:35Speaker 04

  Oh, gosh.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  Probably since April, since that's what he says in a relationship still.

• 27:41Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  No? So he's in a relationship with someone else?

• 27:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, okay, so he, he was in a relationship with, um.

• 27:52Caleb Hammer?

  Well, personally, I don't really give a fuck about his relationship. When did you start?

• 27:55Speaker 04

  Um, when I started trying to leave him, because I wanted to leave him and stuff.

• 28:01Caleb Hammer?

  When was that? You're not really giving dates. You're giving events in your lives, but not really giving me a timeline.

• 28:07Speaker 04

  Because I don't really know dates, like numbers.

• 28:09Caleb Hammer?

  It doesn't have to be exact, month.

• 28:11Speaker 04

  I wanna say maybe March.

• 28:14Caleb Hammer?

  When'd you guys get engaged?

• 28:16Speaker 04

  May, I think that's what you said.

• 28:18Caleb Hammer?

  You wanted to leave him in March?

• 28:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:20Caleb Hammer?

  Why'd you wanna leave him?

• 28:22Speaker 04

  He was constantly on the game all the time. He would not talk.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  Tell him what you were playing.

• 28:28Speaker 03

  I was playing, um, GTA V M, the roleplay.

• 28:31Caleb Hammer?

  Fuck, yeah.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was awesome.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you woke me up in the middle of the night saying, put your hands up like a police officer.

• 28:37Caleb Hammer?

  Hey, you wanted to spice it up.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  To the game. He was doing that to the game. And at that time, I wasn't reading like any spicy romance books. But, uh, but yeah, he was doing that. He would not go to work. That was a big issue. Yeah.

• 28:53Caleb Hammer?

  You just weren't going to work, Al?

• 28:54Speaker 03

  No, I had my ride issues.

• 28:57Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 28:58Caleb Hammer?

  Huh? Getting to work, you mean? Not the rides at work.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, rides to get to work.

• 29:04Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I mean, we could Uber, but I get it.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  He, um, it was back in like that, during that time, he was calling in a lot.

• 29:11Caleb Hammer?

  Who?

• 29:12Speaker 03

  My ride to work. And he'd always call in like last minute where.

• 29:15Caleb Hammer?

  How often was he leaving work or not going to work?

• 29:18Speaker 03

  Uh, pretty often, but he got better at it now. Everything's like I've been going to work every day now on time. No, it was probably because of the new point system at work, so.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  Well, that too, but I did threaten him.

• 29:32Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so you started getting with him before the engagement? What were you doing?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Discord. I was on Discord, uh, chatting with him. That's how I reconnected with him because he was in a server that I was in. Yeah, he's a previous ex right after my ex-fiance.

• 29:52Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, so that person, oh, I have a note here. That person is the ex-boyfriend of your ex's fiance's new girlfriend?

• 30:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:02Caleb Hammer?

  What the fuck is happening? What the fuck is happening?

• 30:05Speaker 04

  It was weird.

• 30:05Caleb Hammer?

  How many people are in this town?

• 30:06Speaker 03

  No, this is.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  It's not Austin, it's Houston, around that area.

• 30:10Caleb Hammer?

  I knew it wasn't Austin, but I didn't know it was Houston. How would, I thought it was just where you guys live.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  This was when I was in Texas.

• 30:18Caleb Hammer?

  Shit, I'm being told, I guess your text messages that he found are at the bottom of the stack. Uh, W Producers chat. W Producers, let them know. What an amazing show I have created. Like I said, I was looking one of you guys, calebham.com/apply are from the audience. Can you confirm that this show is real?

• 30:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:38Caleb Hammer?

  You're in it. You're on it. You're just normal ass people. And you like the show. Everyone that comes on is fans of the show. It's a crazy thing. So many people think that it's like we're staging something. Are we staging something?

• 30:48Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:48Caleb Hammer?

  Are you guys paid actors?

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Actually, his dad said that you were guys were staging it.

• 30:52Caleb Hammer?

  See? We couldn't make up the shit that comes on this show. It blows our mind. Okay, yeah, okay, so here's the messages. This is what you stumbled across?

• 31:02Speaker 04

  Don't show him too much.

• 31:04Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  No, don't show him too much. No, oh, God.

• 31:07Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, I thought, I thought my sweet Al saw these.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  I saw some of them.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  He saw like the previous messages.

• 31:12Caleb Hammer?

  Previous messages.

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:14Speaker 03

  There's also Snapchat.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did block him on Snapchat because he came into the room and is like, do you actually love me? And I said, yes. And then he's like, then block him.

• 31:24Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, okay, okay. Who's, okay, are you Goth witch?

• 31:29Speaker 04

  I am.

• 31:30Caleb Hammer?

  You say nine, my love, nine kids.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 31:34Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 31:34Speaker 04

  He's gonna read it out.

• 31:35Caleb Hammer?

  What is that?

• 31:37Speaker 04

  Talking about how many kids he wants.

• 31:38Caleb Hammer?

  Who wants?

• 31:39Speaker 04

  Him.

• 31:40Caleb Hammer?

  This guy?

• 31:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:41Caleb Hammer?

  He said nine, my love, nine kids. You said, yes, I know it's nine kids. He said, you don't think that's a lot? You say, I was thinking whatever God gives us. Oh, yeah. So you're religious, but cheating on your fiance, interesting.

• 31:54Speaker 04

  Actually, I'm spiritual. I'm more, uh, more pagan.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  When he says God means like gods.

• 32:02Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, gotcha. I love you so much. He's saying that to her.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, no.

• 32:08Caleb Hammer?

  My perfect innocent Al, I'm so sorry. And you say, I love you too. You said I love you too. You said I love you too.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, and honestly, to be hon- I don't want to be in that relationship either right now.

• 32:21Caleb Hammer?

  Huh?

• 32:21Speaker 04

  I don't want to be in that anymore.

• 32:24Caleb Hammer?

  Anymore?

• 32:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:25Caleb Hammer?

  What's he?

• 32:26Speaker 04

  I've kind of distanced myself away from him.

• 32:29Caleb Hammer?

  I would hope so.

• 32:32Speaker 04

  But not because of this, not because of that.

• 32:35Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Huh?

• 32:37Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, pause.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  I don't make sense either.

• 32:39Caleb Hammer?

  That's crazy. I don't know what the you're saying, but let me get through this and I will get back to that because what the was that?

• 32:46Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 32:46Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, is this both y'all's finances combined?

• 32:49Speaker 04

  We don't combine our finances.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  We don't combine them.

• 32:51Caleb Hammer?

  Whose is this?

• 32:52Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Oh, that is both of ours, but we don't combine them all together.

• 32:56Caleb Hammer?

  I guess you guys aren't married yet. I think, well, I might have to do them separately by the end of this anyway. Okay, you said I love him too. And then you also said, also breeding kink works out for me.

• 33:13Caleb Hammer?

  By the way, this was two months ago.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  Sounds about right.

• 33:17Caleb Hammer?

  That's when you caught? Is that the message you caught?

• 33:20Speaker 04

  He didn't catch me on Discord. He caught me on Snapchat.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  I caught you on Discord too.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  You caught me that, at that time on Discord?

• 33:27Speaker 03

  No, that was, that was the second.

• 33:29Speaker 04

  He did catch me on Discord, but it's not that time.

• 33:33Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, uh, he said, I didn't know you had a breeding kink.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  I didn't.

• 33:40Caleb Hammer?

  Which, by the way, like every woman has a breeding kink. This isn't even unique. I saw, there's not a single woman I've been with that does have a breeding kink. Everyone's like, come in me, I'm not on birth control. And I'm like, ah, okay. You what? No, I'm kidding.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  I don't use, well, we don't use protection now either, so.

• 33:56Caleb Hammer?

  You too?

• 33:57Speaker 04

  No.

• 33:57Caleb Hammer?

  Are you on birth control?

• 33:58Speaker 04

  No.

• 33:59Caleb Hammer?

  Does he come in you?

• 34:00Speaker 04

  No.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  We used to pull out game, pull out method. I, well, I know, that's actually how I had.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  It's actually how I had my last miscarriage. The pullout method didn't work, so, yeah. That was fun.

• 34:17Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, I don't really have sympathy for you after this. Okay, and then you said, picked up after watching a few videos. Okay, he said, you're going to use that to your advantage, aren't you? Also, I had that kink before you and I got together the first time.

• 34:35Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, and you said, yes, absolutely. He said, ba- I'm so down. And you said, by the way, aren't you getting your tubes tied just have what?

• 34:46Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you're a goth witch. Okay, reverse some of those. You, so she said she's so down. She said she's so down with getting nutted in by this man. She said that. He said, by the way, aren't you getting your tubes tied? You said, oh, really now? He said, any reason to tie them?

• 35:03Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no. He said, you're not going to. That that's not gonna happen.

• 35:08Caleb Hammer?

  He said, by the way, you aren't going to get your tubes tied, by the way. Oh, and you said, oh, really now? He said, any reason to tie them? He said, a life or death situation. He, he, he said, otherwise. You said, oh, ha, nope.

• 35:23Caleb Hammer?

  He said, any, and objections? And then you said, don't have any other reason, but that one, and nope, no objections here, love. Kissy face. How's this making you feel right now, Al?

• 35:37Speaker 04

  Probably very awful.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I want you to block him.

• 35:43Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, yeah, but she said again, she's like, I don't know, she's interested in talking to this guy, but not for you, which is very confusing, but either way. Um, he said, good slut. And you said, only for you, master.

• 35:57Caleb Hammer?

  And he said, I haven't heard that begging voice in a while.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Oh, God. Oh, God. Yeah, I would, I would send voice messages.

• 36:08Caleb Hammer?

  And you said, cuz he's been home all the time, so has everyone else, I'm sorry.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  I didn't want to get caught.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  You were terrified about hiding it anyway.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  I was terrible at hiding it. You didn't catch me for, like, four.

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• 36:51Speaker 04

  Four months, um, I wouldn't say four months. Maybe about three.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  Well, no, you slipped, started slipping up a while. I already suspected it for a while.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Well, that's because you're, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's because your sister actually caught me.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  The first time, and then she said something to you.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  It wasn't that time either.

• 37:10Speaker 04

  No, but she did catch me, though.

• 37:13Caleb Hammer?

  And you said, bathroom snippy time. You said, the walls are so thin that he can hear everything, or no, the other person. Uh, he said, then don't moan. You said, how am I supposed to beg, master? And mean, and if I can't moan.

• 37:31Caleb Hammer?

  And he said, video, question mark, question mark, and you said, oh, I didn't think of that. So glad we got these screenshots. This is disgusting. He said, waits, and you said, not gonna lie, I'm not the smartest. No shit. And he said, you're fine, I want a video, though.

• 37:45Speaker 04

  Hey, no, no, no, I'm kind of smart. I'm kind of smart. My GPA is like a four, or 3.4. 3.8, it was 3.8, went down to 3.4. So I'm kind of smart.

• 37:55Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but from the classroom down the hall where you hear, no.

• 38:01Caleb Hammer?

  And you said, what, like tonight? I don't know about that, TBH. He said, yes, and you said, if I can't, I'll make it up to you. He said, how? You said, I might send a spicy pic tonight instead. Would that please you tonight, master? While you're with him, two months into doing shit with this guy while you're with him, you're engaged at this point.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Actually, no, I wasn't engaged.

• 38:22Caleb Hammer?

  So it was a couple of days right before?

• 38:24Speaker 04

  Possibly. I, I.

• 38:28Caleb Hammer?

  And he said, how spicy are we talking? You said, as spicy as you want with a bathroom mirror.

• 38:35Caleb Hammer?

  He said, what do you have? And did you order that toy? You said, I have not ordered the toy, and you know what? Let me surprise you. I'm sure you would like. Why can't you just focus on him? Or, are you okay with an open relationship?

• 38:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 38:50Caleb Hammer?

  Well, fuck me. Because open's fine if you guys choose that.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  Well, no, we were talking about it. We.

• 38:56Caleb Hammer?

  Talking about it, but he said, no. Talking about it, but he said, no.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  He's the one who brought it up.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  I brought it up because I was trying to fix whatever was going on, but if you're gonna block him, then it's a different story.

• 39:08Caleb Hammer?

  She won't even. Ah, okay. He said, yes, do surprise me. What toy you get? Waits. And then you said, I don't have toys here in Tennessee, there in South Carolina, but I can't find the one that connects to the app. The person told you about it, so I'mma look for it. He said, show. You said, show me what, love? Love. He said, the toy you're looking online.

• 39:36Caleb Hammer?

  So that's where that ended.

• 39:40Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  Open your phone.

• 39:42Caleb Hammer?

  That's on Discord. Yeah, open your phone. I agree. Let me see what's happening today.

• 39:48Speaker 04

  Nothing on Discord. Nothing on Discord.

• 39:51Caleb Hammer?

  Then where?

• 39:52Speaker 04

  Uh, nothing, actually.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Go to Facebook.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Facebook?

• 39:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:58Speaker 04

  Messenger?

• 39:59Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:59Caleb Hammer?

  Where are you talking to him now? Because you said you want to stop, but you're not.

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Regular messages.

• 40:05Caleb Hammer?

  Show me, pull it up.

• 40:06Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 40:06Caleb Hammer?

  Pull that up now, whore.

• 40:10Speaker 03

  Do you have them on regular messages?

• 40:11Caleb Hammer?

  Well, she has a ring on her ring finger.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  You're still texting him today?

• 40:16Speaker 04

  That, that was earlier.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  That was like one message.

• 40:20Caleb Hammer?

  Earlier this morning.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 40:23Caleb Hammer?

  Well, Al, what do you think?

• 40:25Speaker 03

  I don't know what it says.

• 40:26Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, what does it say? Um, uh, she said yesterday that she loves him.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  Block him.

• 40:34Caleb Hammer?

  No, Al, it's done.

• 40:38Caleb Hammer?

  She, dude, what? You caught her cheating twice and she's still doing it. She's not, block him. She's not stopping.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  No, I'm not, I'm not gonna just give up just like that.

• 40:49Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, Al.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  I want to work this out.

• 40:52Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 40:52Speaker 03

  If you want to.

• 40:54Caleb Hammer?

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• 41:06Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  You told me. You lied to me.

• 41:15Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, dude, he's been texting while we've been literally in here filming. While we're in here filming.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 41:22Caleb Hammer?

  Dude. Talk some sense into the man, then this man. He just said, he just said. Start a screen recording, by the way. It's Android. I don't know how to. He just said, block him.

• 41:34Speaker 05

  Block him! Al, man to man. It's been going on for months now. You thought this was over, right? You thought this is ended? You thought they stopped communicating?

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Oh, what did I do?

• 41:49Speaker 05

  Al, do you want to marry a woman that cheats on you after your engagement? And then tells you that it's done and continues to do it?

• 41:59Speaker 05

  This is quite literally one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. This is egregious.

• 42:06Speaker 05

  Buddy, if she's doing it now, she's not gonna stop. And she hasn't stopped. She told you she stopped.

• 42:16Speaker 05

  Today!

• 42:17Caleb Hammer?

  They're calling each other "my love" back and forth on Sunday.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  Honey?

• 42:24Speaker 04

  Was I doing this on Sunday?

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Does that work?

• 42:27Speaker 03

  Honey?

• 42:28Speaker 04

  Yeah? Yes?

• 42:31Speaker 03

  You told me you stopped.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  Why haven't you stopped?

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Because I don't, uh, mm, I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry.

• 42:45Speaker 03

  How about you just block him?

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Well, because I told you he's my friend.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  He's not your friend!

• 42:53Speaker 03

  He...

• 42:57Speaker 03

  He's apparently your boyfriend.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Not to me. He's not really my boyfriend.

• 43:02Caleb Hammer?

  You guys are saying you love each other.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, but...

• 43:06Speaker 03

  I don't like that. So if he's not your boyfriend, then you have no problem blocking him on everything right now?

• 43:11Caleb Hammer?

  Why did you delete the texts previous to Saturday? To hide them?

• 43:15Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no. He had, he got a different number.

• 43:18Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, bring up his previous then.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 43:22Speaker 04

  You're not gonna like the name.

• 43:24Caleb Hammer?

  It's not about me, it's about Al. Sweet Al, perfect Al.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  Al, we're 40 minutes in. I love you. You're a great guy. You can do so much better. This is, this is insane, buddy.

• 43:33Caleb Hammer?

  What name?

• 43:34Speaker 04

  Uh, that's the name of one of my sisters.

• 43:36Caleb Hammer?

  What?

• 43:36Speaker 05

  She's hiding the contact under her sister's name?

• 43:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:39Speaker 05

  She's hiding the, she's hiding his contact? Al, you think she's texting her sister, brother? You think she's texting her sister? That's, that's him!

• 43:47Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, sure. Just go ahead and take a look.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  Her actual name under there is either Buttface or Weirdo.

• 43:57Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I would've known this wasn't you.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  So you knew? You just didn't bring it up?

• 44:03Caleb Hammer?

  He said he wouldn't have known.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  I wouldn't have known if I looked at it.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  So here.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  He's not your boyfriend. You'll let Caleb block him on every single thing?

• 44:17Speaker 04

  No.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 44:19Speaker 05

  Al, Al, listen to me. If she blocks him on one thing, she's just gonna talk to him on it all?

• 44:27Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, she has him on all. Number and Facebook.

• 44:30Speaker 05

  But buddy, that's the thing. He has a different number already. That, like, that, that's the issue. He's gonna keep getting different numbers.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  No, he didn't get that number because of me.

• 44:37Speaker 05

  Doesn't matter why he had it. It's a different number. And he'll keep finding different ways, you'll keep finding different ways to let him contact you.

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• 46:38Caleb Hammer?

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• 46:44Speaker 03

  Why won't you stop?

• 46:47Speaker 04

  I don't know how. I've been wanting to stop, like, actually stop, like, with every relationship.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  How do you not know? All relationships?

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  I want to stop. I don't, I don't, I want to be by myself. I actually want to live by myself. That's been the goal since the beginning of the year, actually.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  That has legit been Michael.

• 47:07Caleb Hammer?

  He was like, hey, your 360 is off, by the way, so he has her location usually. And she was like, yeah, I got mad at her.

• 47:12Speaker 04

  Oh, you didn't know about that one?

• 47:13Caleb Hammer?

  I didn't know anything! What do you know about?

• 47:16Speaker 03

  You have a 360 circle with him?

• 47:17Speaker 04

  I do.

• 47:18Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, my. And he asked, what are you mad about? I was like, okay, obviously she's, she's ready to leave this guy and just stick to her man, Al. Um, she said, just everything at this time. He went through my phone again. As in you. And I just changed everything on my phone and told him that I didn't like that. I still don't trust him. You don't trust him? You don't trust him?

• 47:42Speaker 04

  Because he went through my personal belongings.

• 47:48Caleb Hammer?

  You guys are saying, I love you, I love you, I love you.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  You're cheating on me.

• 47:53Caleb Hammer?

  Hey, love, I'm sorry it's been a minute. Happy...

• 47:59Caleb Hammer?

  Happy fourth... Do you really care that he threatened? Like, what the fuck are we doing? You're just talking about how much he's seen, you got, you're...

• 48:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a lot of text messages.

• 48:11Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, my god. Hey, honey, she's calling him, honey! He's calling you, good little slut!

• 48:18Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 48:23Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, dare I? Oh, I do dare. I do dare. Okay, thank goodness, there's nothing in here.

• 48:32Speaker 04

  Not on that one. It's on Discord.

• 48:34Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, good, just incredible. When's the last time you sent him a spicy?

• 48:43Speaker 04

  I don't remember. That I actually don't remember. I, I, I want to, I don't know. I think it was actually the last time on Snapchat and...

• 48:52Caleb Hammer?

  When did you block him on Snap?

• 48:53Speaker 04

  He actu-, mm, when was that?

• 48:57Speaker 03

  That was a few months ago.

• 48:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, it was about a month ago. On Snapchat.

• 49:02Caleb Hammer?

  That's him. I recognized his name from anywhere. 43 minutes ago, we talked on Discord.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  I blocked him on Discord.

• 49:09Speaker 04

  I unblocked him on Discord.

• 49:11Caleb Hammer?

  Got a new number?

• 49:11Speaker 04

  I actually had to figure out how to do it.

• 49:14Caleb Hammer?

  Got her number again. They're literally talking on here today, too. Oh, my gosh, this was...

• 49:21Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, this was just recently. Yeah, he said, so I'm gonna assume you were gonna train me to do that?

• 49:29Speaker 04

  Train him to do it.

• 49:29Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, you were talking to him that you have a way, you like everything, and he doesn't do it right?

• 49:35Caleb Hammer?

  Brother.

• 49:35Speaker 04

  Gee, I'm honest.

• 49:37Caleb Hammer?

  Dude, you're a crazy bitch.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  No, he's straight up coming to-

• 49:41Caleb Hammer?

  You're a disgusting creature.

• 49:42Speaker 04

  He came to me-

• 49:43Speaker 05

  But the cheating is dishonest.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  But no, he came to me and, no, he came to me and confronted me about it, and I was honest about, to him, about it.

• 49:51Caleb Hammer?

  Now, honest is you're still doing it.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  But I told him right then and there, hey, yes, I've been doing this. When he confronted me.

• 50:00Speaker 05

  You thought this stopped after the engagement?

• 50:05Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, those are the images she sends to him. Sorry for the trauma. We're gonna have to wash her.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  I'm sorry. Yeah.

• 50:14Caleb Hammer?

  You get in there, buddy.

• 50:15Speaker 04

  I did, I did warn you.

• 50:16Caleb Hammer?

  Those are some titty pussy butt-

• 50:17Speaker 05

  Have you gotten those pictures?

• 50:20Speaker 03

  No.

• 50:23Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'm gonna send you out. I want to talk to Al alone. If, if, if you want to take him out, Lindsay. I'm gonna stop this screen recording.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  Me or him?

• 50:32Caleb Hammer?

  You! I want to talk to Al in here. I want you to get the fuck away from me. I'm pissed at you right now. With my-

• 50:40Speaker 04

  Can I have my phone?

• 50:41Speaker 05

  Dear Al.

• 50:42Caleb Hammer?

  You!

• 50:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 50:43Caleb Hammer?

  Not at all! Get the fuck out of my studio! I'll let you back in for a second. Al, I'll be honest, this is financial audit. And in financial audit, the first half, I do the get to know you. I get to figure out what the dynamic is. That way, it helps me with the rest of the episode. And then I do the, the number audit part. What the fuck am I auditing in this episode? There is, there's literally a 700% interest payday loan at the top of this. I do need to get into this, but where is this headed? Al, you cannot stay with her.

• 51:17Caleb Hammer?

  She's currently cheating. She's cheating in the middle of this episode. She's never going to stop. What is it? Is it, is it the fear of being alone? You're 22, you got time.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  I, I already lost her once.

• 51:32Caleb Hammer?

  In high school?

• 51:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:35Caleb Hammer?

  Well, why, why? Okay. She's not that cute. What are you losing?

• 51:43Speaker 05

  What does she add to your life that you can't see yourself living without?

• 51:51Speaker 03

  She tells my anxiety.

• 51:55Speaker 03

  She's not real besides that.

• 51:57Caleb Hammer?

  No, that's big. As someone that is, you know, I deal with some anxiety issues. If you feel like she's the reason why you're not having to deal with it. It's almost like she's your drug of choice. And you're afraid of her not being there for your anxiety. You will find someone else. You know that, right? You know, she's using. Why does she want to be with you? She wants to be with this guy. I'm confused on that.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  But she doesn't want to be with him either.

• 52:22Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, that's weird. Does she want to be with anyone? What the fuck is she doing?

• 52:28Caleb Hammer?

  Um.

• 52:31Caleb Hammer?

  Buddy, I just, I don't, I. I don't know. I don't know. You will, you will find someone else. Does that scare you that you might not?

• 52:40Speaker 03

  Man, that's another thing that's always scared me. So, yeah.

• 52:43Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, that is scary. I get it. Um, okay. So what's going through your head as you've learned everything that we've all been learning together in this episode? Obviously, the producers knew and the fact that she's just wanting to say this is crazy, but, um.

• 52:58Caleb Hammer?

  What's been going through your head? My sweet Al. My perfect innocent Al. Who's never done any wrong in this world.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  A lot of thoughts.

• 53:08Caleb Hammer?

  Walk us through them.

• 53:14Caleb Hammer?

  Open and honest, buddy.

• 53:15Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have his number.

• 53:16Caleb Hammer?

  You have his number?

• 53:18Speaker 03

  Well, I had his number at one point.

• 53:19Caleb Hammer?

  Why?

• 53:20Speaker 03

  Cause I decided the second time I would just figure out where to get ahold of him, tell him to back the hell off.

• 53:25Caleb Hammer?

  And did you?

• 53:26Speaker 03

  I did.

• 53:27Caleb Hammer?

  And? He hasn't. But what happened in that confrontation?

• 53:31Speaker 03

  He threatened to call the cops on me, but that didn't really matter to me at all because the cops ain't gonna do shit about the phone call.

• 53:37Caleb Hammer?

  No, and you're Al. They would never do anything to you.

• 53:41Caleb Hammer?

  We protect Al.

• 53:44Speaker 03

  Oh, I don't know.

• 53:47Caleb Hammer?

  What was going through your head that she's still doing this now? Is it just the fear of losing her or are you angry?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I kind of both right now.

• 53:55Caleb Hammer?

  I get the fear of losing someone. That's a legitimate fear. But there is a reality in the end that she's never gonna stop. And the question you have to ask yourself is, are you okay with that? She's never gonna stop. She might stop with this guy, but she's gonna pick someone else up.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  I don't know. I've thought about her open relationship idea.

• 54:16Speaker 05

  Buddy, you said you don't want that.

• 54:18Speaker 03

  But.

• 54:19Caleb Hammer?

  They're, they're okay if you guys are down with it, but if one person, person's being forced into it, it doesn't work.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  If there were a ground rule, I think I can handle it, but the ground rules would be really strict.

• 54:27Caleb Hammer?

  But she can't even follow the ground rule of not cheating today. So like, you can't trust the open part. Open is built on trust and there's no trust here. What are your ground rules? What would your ground rules be?

• 54:39Speaker 03

  I pretty much know physical.

• 54:41Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, I don't think she.

• 54:43Speaker 03

  Just emotional.

• 54:43Speaker 05

  It's open, buddy.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:46Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, that's.

• 54:48Speaker 05

  You, we just saw photos that she, you've never seen.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:51Speaker 05

  Those are naked photos of her that she's sending to another man that you've never received yourself.

• 54:55Caleb Hammer?

  By the way, you can do a lot better than those.

• 55:00Caleb Hammer?

  Trust.

• 55:06Caleb Hammer?

  I mean, you don't want to live up to her insane weird kink shit. Blindfold, that's fine, normal. The knife is kind of crazy.

• 55:12Speaker 05

  I've never done that.

• 55:14Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, yeah, like Brandon, you know, we, we like, you know, we're a little freaky.

• 55:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:20Caleb Hammer?

  Insane.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is.

• 55:23Caleb Hammer?

  You're never gonna do that. Which means she's always gonna try to look for something more. Cause she feels she's entitled to that for whatever reason. You're engaged to this woman. Do you have a wedding set?

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 55:34Caleb Hammer?

  When?

• 55:35Speaker 03

  November 2nd, 2027.

• 55:37Caleb Hammer?

  Gonna, oh, at least it's next year.

• 55:44Caleb Hammer?

  What do you want your life to look like with her?

• 55:49Speaker 03

  I want to go back to the way it was when we started.

• 55:52Caleb Hammer?

  What did that look like?

• 55:54Speaker 03

  No. It was happier.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  And it wasn't the. Constant cheating.

• 56:02Speaker 05

  That's every relationship in the beginning now, buddy.

• 56:04Caleb Hammer?

  And actually, they're still in the beginning.

• 56:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:07Caleb Hammer?

  I mean, you guys are in the beginning.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  It, it doesn't get better when this is the start. If this is the starting point. It's never gonna get better.

• 56:19Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 56:19Speaker 05

  This just picks up.

• 56:21Caleb Hammer?

  She's, she's an addict. She's an addict.

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• 56:52Caleb Hammer?

  Might have one criticism of you, my sweet perfect Al.

• 56:56Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 56:56Caleb Hammer?

  I mean, yeah, they're not showing up to work isn't very good. She did complain in the pre-interview a lot how you don't shower. I recommend showering.

• 57:03Speaker 03

  I mean, I do do that.

• 57:04Caleb Hammer?

  More frequently?

• 57:06Speaker 03

  I do like maybe every two days.

• 57:08Caleb Hammer?

  Let's try every day.

• 57:10Speaker 03

  Okay, well, usually I get too tired from work and I just come home and go, go right to sleep.

• 57:14Caleb Hammer?

  Then do it in the morning. Let's shower every day.

• 57:17Speaker 05

  You're outside all day, right?

• 57:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I am.

• 57:19Speaker 05

  You're outside. It's hot. You're in Tennessee.

• 57:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:22Speaker 05

  You gotta shower every night.

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, no.

• 57:26Caleb Hammer?

  You know, the producers did invite this guy. To come here to get his side, but he said he'd get violent with you. So we just didn't let him. Why would he get violent with you? That's crazy.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 57:44Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, you know that other guy's homeless, right? I didn't know that. He's homeless?

• 57:48Speaker 03

  I did not know that.

• 57:49Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I need to learn more from her. Um, uh, uh, let's, can we, can we get her back in? I wanna, if we gave her a second to cool off, I wanna see what she's thought about all this now. This is just insane, dude. How do I even do a financial audit here? Luckily, we love to spring her apart, but I do need to do an audit in the end. What do I do? How's your debt? How's your finances? You okay?

• 58:12Speaker 03

  Not really.

• 58:13Caleb Hammer?

  What about her?

• 58:14Speaker 03

  Nah. It can't happen.

• 58:18Caleb Hammer?

  Good. Good death.

• 58:22Caleb Hammer?

  When you call her cheating. You blamed yourself, but then you should, okay. She's back. All right, you had time to cool off.

• 58:32Speaker 04

  I did.

• 58:33Caleb Hammer?

  He just had the floor for a little bit. I'm gonna let you have the floor. Tell her shit. You can tell him shit. I don't know. I, cause I'm just trying to figure out where the fuck to go from here.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Um.

• 58:46Speaker 04

  I just, I want to be happy. I haven't been happy in a long time. And I don't feel happy in this relationship. I don't feel happy in that relationship. I want to be by myself. I haven't had that chance ever.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Who are you gonna go, who's you even gonna stay with?

• 59:04Speaker 04

  I have people in Arkansas, Texas, South Carolina, and some people in Tennessee. What do you mean? I've told you this continuously.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  Cause I know about those people, but.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  I know about those people.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  I even know that I could get a job at the hospital. I can get a job in my dream job at the hospital. Doing medical assisting work. And actually get 20 an hour, working overnights and get my own apartment for 500 a month and be by myself finally.

• 59:31Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, what are you saying right now?

• 59:32Speaker 04

  I'm saying that. If it comes up to where I need to be happy by myself. I have options to leave. I have an out.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  So what's going on with us?

• 59:48Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, are you?

• 59:52Caleb Hammer?

  Kind of sounded like a breakup.

• 59:55Speaker 03

  Oh, it did.

• 59:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:59Speaker 04

  I just didn't want to be the bad guy.

• 1:00:02Speaker 03

  Well, you've GD'd so.

• 1:00:04Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah. Wait, no, tell us what's happening. Wait.

• 1:00:14Caleb Hammer?

  Actually?

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:00:19Caleb Hammer?

  Like on the show, you're just.

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  I mean, we can talk about it on the plane because of course we had to fly back and stuff and I need time. But I don't think we should be engaged. I think we should just be a normal couple. For the time being until we get everything back.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, first step is blocking him. The homeless guy.

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  Can you do that?

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:00:47Caleb Hammer?

  Wait, do you want to be with him? You're ending the engagement now. Listen, I'm not telling you to break up. I think he should break up with you actually, but the thing is.

• 1:00:56Speaker 04

  He won't do it. He's too soft.

• 1:00:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but what about you? I'm not telling you to break up, but what I am doing is I'm saying.

• 1:01:05Caleb Hammer?

  Do your thing, whatever it is. Don't draw out. Be with him or don't. Make the choice. Make the fucking choice. If you just broke the engagement, what the is that? That's insane. I'm not, I haven't seen that in real life in my life. That's crazy. Just don't play with this man. Sweet Al, perfect Al.

• 1:01:26Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, he giggle at that, but you're with him. You're stringing him along. Are you with him or not?

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:01:35Caleb Hammer?

  That, that is some, that is some level behavior.

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:01:40Caleb Hammer?

  What the is that?

• 1:01:44Speaker 04

  I just think I need some time to think and you need some time to think as well if this is what you really want.

• 1:01:51Caleb Hammer?

  But dude, dude's not leaving you. He'll never leave you, which is a horrible mistake. He should leave you. Uh, the fact that you're the one considering breaking up, I don't understand. Like this is so confusing.

• 1:02:03Speaker 04

  I'm not happy. I haven't been.

• 1:02:05Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, no shit. So why are you stringing him along then?

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  To get my affairs in order to make sure.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  So you're using me for a place to live?

• 1:02:14Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, so, so you just confirmed you're breaking up with him, but you're just waiting?

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  Um, no, not necessarily.

• 1:02:21Caleb Hammer?

  Girl, that's what you just said. Is that what she just?

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  That's exactly what you just said.

• 1:02:24Caleb Hammer?

  Is that what she just?

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Until you get your affairs in order?

• 1:02:25Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, yes, okay.

• 1:02:26Speaker 03

  That means until everything lines up how you see it lining up and then you leave.

• 1:02:30Speaker 04

  I, I guess you could put it that way, but that's not how I see it.

• 1:02:32Caleb Hammer?

  But that's how you just said it. How do you see it then?

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  I want to make sure like, he's okay with me leaving and I'm okay as well. I want it to be like a mutual breakup type thing.

• 1:02:44Caleb Hammer?

  But no, dude's never gonna break up with you.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  It's not mutual. He loves you endlessly. You're cheating on him.

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  I don't think I can love anyone, to be honest.

• 1:02:51Caleb Hammer?

  Then let him go. For his sake.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  I don't.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  So you've never loved me?

• 1:03:00Speaker 04

  No, I didn't say that I never loved you.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  So you can't love anyone?

• 1:03:04Speaker 04

  At this point right now.

• 1:03:06Caleb Hammer?

  What? Why?

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  Me, my emotions, my head.

• 1:03:12Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, we know it's fucked up, but I mean, I would love you to tell us.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Just.

• 1:03:19Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, she's not saying it, but she's breaking up with you and I am incredibly sorry, but this, I actually,

• 1:03:26Caleb Hammer?

  I will say, I think that's kind of a win. You don't see it that way because you really love her. So it's so hard and it's tragic in your heart right now. This is so much better for the rest of your life. This is so much better for the rest of your life. You'll have some time, some broken pieces to get yourself back together and get yourself back up on your feet and find someone that loves you, treats you with respect, and you will. Just because you had a crush on her in college doesn't mean you should be putting up with this shit.

• 1:03:51Speaker 04

  High school.

• 1:03:52Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, yeah, high school. But you know what she just said, right? She just said she wants to leave you, but because you don't want to leave her, she's afraid of doing it. But she wants to now.

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  I know what you just kept going to therapy.

• 1:04:07Speaker 04

  I don't like therapy. It wasn't working for me. No, it was not.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  You didn't see it, but you were starting to get better.

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  I don't think I was getting better. I think I was actually getting worse.

• 1:04:21Speaker 03

  That's not what therapy does.

• 1:04:23Caleb Hammer?

  No, actually in therapy, sometimes it does get worse for a few months for it to get better. But this is because you're finally like letting go of all like the, the bullshit coping mechanisms and avoiding actual truths. As long as you have a real therapist and not like an enablement therapist, which a lot of pussies on TikTok have, but.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  It was probably, it was probably getting worse. Then it was trying to get better.

• 1:04:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. And the dreams that I've had about you?

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  Well, the dreams, first off, the first dream was obviously because I caught you cheating and you thought I would.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, but you didn't have to claw my face off.

• 1:04:53Speaker 03

  It wasn't a dream.

• 1:04:55Caleb Hammer?

  Well, how are we punishing people for dreams?

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  I wasn't punishing, I'm not punishing him for it. I'm not punishing him for it.

• 1:05:01Caleb Hammer?

  What the, what? He did not control your dream. I'm so confused right now.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:05:07Caleb Hammer?

  This is.

• 1:05:08Speaker 04

  No, I'm not punishing him for that. I just bring it up because it. I.

• 1:05:13Speaker 03

  It was a dream.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was a dream.

• 1:05:16Caleb Hammer?

  It's make believe.

• 1:05:17Speaker 04

  No, but that means something spiritually to me.

• 1:05:19Caleb Hammer?

  Oh my, run, run, run for those East Tennessee hills. Run right up the Appalachians.

• 1:05:26Speaker 04

  They're more like mountains.

• 1:05:28Caleb Hammer?

  Yes, run, run.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  She won't be able to catch you running up those mountains.

• 1:05:33Speaker 04

  I don't know about that. I go to the gym, he don't. So I do go to the gym with my cousin. I do go with her.

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  Credit one just called her.

• 1:05:41Caleb Hammer?

  Oh my.

• 1:05:44Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, they've been constantly calling me. Oh no.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  Nah, it's okay. They've been calling me too, but.

• 1:05:51Caleb Hammer?

  Oh my, okay.

• 1:05:54Caleb Hammer?

  No, I don't see they, they typed in their couples there because no, you guys, you guys cannot be together. How do you not see that this is horrible for?

• 1:06:08Caleb Hammer?

  What do you think, Al?

• 1:06:13Caleb Hammer?

  She just broke up with you without breaking up with you. She took off the engagement ring for sure.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  I can put it back on. Sorry, I, I don't want him to be hurt. That's my main goal is I don't want him hurt and I know that I've already hurt him.

• 1:06:26Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, that would have been a good start. Good point, Al. W. Al.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  You just, you've told me when we got together, you don't want the same thing to happen that happened to you when he cheated on you. And then you go and cheat on me.

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  That was physical. This is not.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  It doesn't matter. Physical and emotional, same thing.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Not what you said when we were having the agreement for an open relationship, even though it was thrown out the door. I said, what would be the standpoint of what I could and couldn't do, what you could and couldn't do? And what did you tell me?

• 1:06:55Speaker 03

  It'd be no physical.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  You said it would be purely just emotional.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  Actually not even emotional, just flirting.

• 1:07:00Caleb Hammer?

  And pussies.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can't send nudes.

• 1:07:03Speaker 04

  Well, I didn't know that at that time. Now I know.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  Well, we want to open the relationship when you did it.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  Okay, that makes sense, but still.

• 1:07:09Caleb Hammer?

  Well, yeah, you were just cheating. Like you're being a whore. Listen, this is the reality. Um, I didn't know this, Al, but she told the producers. I did see earlier, this was, it was a little weird. I've never seen this because I don't really interact with the guys too much, but I like wave hi, right? Before filming. And it was, you guys were separated. I didn't know why. I was like, why would she bring, be brought back so quickly? But okay, you know, whatever. Producers know what they're doing. They're producers. I guess she laid out a game plan going forward. So this is what it is. This is exactly what Miss Stella laid out. Um, so she told the producers that she wants to be single, just straight up.

• 1:07:50Caleb Hammer?

  And that she wants to be with trans men.

• 1:07:54Speaker 04

  No, I, I said that if I was to get back into a relationship, that would be my number one.

• 1:07:59Caleb Hammer?

  If you were to get back into, meaning she's leaving this relationship. Okay. So she wants to be single and she wants to pursue a trans man.

• 1:08:08Caleb Hammer?

  You suck with money, so you download a budgeting app. You start with the classic one, YNAB, but everyone just deletes it because it's way too complicated to use. So you go to EveryDollar. That's Dave Ramsey, the personal finance guy, right? Well, they're gonna force you to use it his way. That's not very personal finances. Rocket Money, they got a lot of commercials, but they're owned by Rocket Mortgage. Guess what they want to sell you in the end? Then there's the new guy on the block, Monarch. Hundreds of millions of dollars of private equity raising so far, but private equity doesn't have the best track record when it comes to private data. That's why I like Dollar Wise. Built by these people just like you, for people just like you.

• 1:08:48Caleb Hammer?

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• 1:09:29Caleb Hammer?

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• 1:09:40Caleb Hammer?

  There's a lot more, but yeah, initial thoughts?

• 1:09:43Speaker 04

  But I don't know if I'd actually do that or not, to be honest, because I don't know. I just feel like I need to be alone for quite a while.

• 1:09:50Caleb Hammer?

  Initial thoughts, Al?

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  Initial thoughts?

• 1:09:54Caleb Hammer?

  Trans man wants to be alone. Go.

• 1:09:58Speaker 03

  No, it makes no sense.

• 1:10:01Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, true. Well, she has two plans, I guess. Plan A.

• 1:10:08Caleb Hammer?

  Preferred plan, apparently. Return to Tennessee temporarily and save after filming this episode. She says Stella would prefer to fly back to Tennessee, continue working and aggressively save money so that she can move the right way rather than making an impulsive move. She says that she specifically wants to avoid emotionally throwing herself back into a difficult living situation before she's financially ready. I ride you out until she can get the fuck out. Use you. Okay.

• 1:10:43Speaker 04

  You gotta admit, though, that household is very knotted. It works for you. That's the reason that your dad's girlfriend left and that's the reason why one of your sister's boyfriend that was living in there.

• 1:10:55Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, cope over cheating whore. Plan B, stay with her adoptive family in Texas. So this is plan B. She's also been thinking about not returning to Tennessee at all, as in like literally going back with you. Uh, her adoptive mom is still planning to come to Austin while she's filming and Stella says that if she feels like she has to leave, she could go back with her. This is, this could be today, man. This could be today. Stella repeatedly says she doesn't care where she sleeps because she just wants to get out of her current situation.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  That's, that's just because the house in Houston.

• 1:11:28Caleb Hammer?

  These are your words, though.

• 1:11:30Speaker 04

  That's because the house in Houston has a lot of people in it and uh, my ex is still currently living there as well. Ex fiance.

• 1:11:38Caleb Hammer?

  Who you'd probably happily let the shit out of you.

• 1:11:40Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:11:41Caleb Hammer?

  Uh huh.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  No, I would not.

• 1:11:42Caleb Hammer?

  Long-term goal, though, Arkansas, Texas, isn't necessarily the final destination. She says her real goal is Arkansas.

• 1:11:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:11:51Caleb Hammer?

  But she recognizes that moving there requires money.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:11:54Caleb Hammer?

  So that's why she would use you. Okay, I'm sorry. We just need to be honest, Al. No matter what, no matter if you stay with her after today, her goals do not involve you ever. So she either uses you today and for the next few months, or she leaves you literally driving back with her adopted family. That's it.

• 1:12:17Speaker 04

  Which I'll have to probably just like get.

• 1:12:19Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no. Answer this question truthfully, not beating around the bush out of the fear of some emotions. Is Al in the future of your picture?

• 1:12:32Speaker 04

  I don't want to answer that question right now.

• 1:12:35Speaker 04

  I do not.

• 1:12:36Caleb Hammer?

  That's a no. There's a yes.

• 1:12:39Speaker 04

  Not necessarily a no. It's just, I don't want to answer that question right now.

• 1:12:45Speaker 04

  Like, literally could go either way.

• 1:12:47Caleb Hammer?

  To one of the initial producers you talked to, she did say that she still has feelings for her ex fiance, but.

• 1:12:54Speaker 04

  But that's not gonna go anywhere.

• 1:12:57Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:12:57Speaker 04

  It can't.

• 1:12:59Speaker 03

  That's went nowhere.

• 1:13:00Caleb Hammer?

  So what uh, what financial audit do I do on you guys?

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  I don't know. Whatever you feel fancy.

• 1:13:12Speaker 04

  I'm sorry.

• 1:13:14Caleb Hammer?

  By the way, I'm calling the homeless man that you're cheating on him with in the post-show to be very clear. I am calling him and you can confront him now. Get ready.

• 1:13:24Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 1:13:24Caleb Hammer?

  Time to man up.

• 1:13:26Speaker 04

  He has some choice words to say to you as well, Al.

• 1:13:29Caleb Hammer?

  What? What has Al ever done?

• 1:13:31Speaker 03

  Probably just things that aren't even that severe.

• 1:13:36Speaker 04

  I mean, they could be severe. They could not be severe.

• 1:13:38Speaker 03

  Oh yeah? Well, what could I have possibly done?

• 1:13:43Speaker 03

  Did I cheat on you?

• 1:13:45Speaker 04

  No, you did not cheat on me.

• 1:13:48Speaker 03

  Even though you told me I could get revenge and cheat on you?

• 1:13:50Speaker 04

  Yes, I did say that.

• 1:13:53Speaker 03

  And I told you this, that's not how it works.

• 1:13:56Caleb Hammer?

  What has Al ever done to you other than when he lost rides to work, showers every other day and doesn't?

• 1:14:03Speaker 04

  Every other day?

• 1:14:04Caleb Hammer?

  That's what he told us.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Every other day? What do you mean every other day? I literally have to tell you every single time, hey, you need a shower. You smell. Not even me, your sisters have told you that as well.

• 1:14:14Speaker 03

  I take one about every two to three days.

• 1:14:16Speaker 04

  Do you scrub? No, I can still smell you.

• 1:14:19Caleb Hammer?

  Buddy, what do we have against showering? Showering is so relaxing and nice.

• 1:14:23Speaker 03

  It was.

• 1:14:24Speaker 04

  Childhood trauma.

• 1:14:25Speaker 03

  Childhood, yeah.

• 1:14:26Caleb Hammer?

  With showering?

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  It's actually.

• 1:14:30Caleb Hammer?

  Go to therapy. Get exposure.

• 1:14:33Speaker 03

  I mean, it's just like heat contact on my skin, so I had to turn it down enough so that way.

• 1:14:37Caleb Hammer?

  Go to therapy, do exposure.

• 1:14:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe they can help you blow up balloons without gagging and throwing up.

• 1:14:43Speaker 03

  That's a big deal to you?

• 1:14:44Caleb Hammer?

  Cheat on him? Like what?

• 1:14:45Speaker 04

  I didn't cheat on him for that. No, I had to blow, I had to blow up 300 balloons. I had to blow 300 balloons all by myself.

• 1:14:53Speaker 03

  I had taken helium.

• 1:14:55Speaker 04

  No, I didn't want to do helium for all of them. It was balloon arches. I had to blow it up by.

• 1:15:01Speaker 04

  No, I had to like, but, no, I had to blow up all 300 balloons by myself. No one was helping me. I asked him, hey, can you blow up this balloon? And he goes blow it up and he just like gags and then can't do it.

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  Now you have a problem using your mouth?

• 1:15:15Speaker 04

  I don't do that. I never have. Like, I don't like.

• 1:15:19Caleb Hammer?

  So she wants to ride a knife but can't give head?

• 1:15:21Speaker 04

  I don't like doing that. I have childhood trauma from that.

• 1:15:25Caleb Hammer?

  Oh my, oh sure.

• 1:15:27Speaker 04

  No, seriously.

• 1:15:33Caleb Hammer?

  That does not equal, let's cheat on my partner. Like, none of that and your miscarriage, all that stuff that is really bad and I do have sympathy for excuses literally any of this. So it's almost pointless to bring up.

• 1:15:56Caleb Hammer?

  I will pay for your first four therapy sessions.

• 1:16:00Caleb Hammer?

  Cause I love you.

• 1:16:05Caleb Hammer?

  Al?

• 1:16:06Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I don't, I don't know. I never actually

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  done therapy.

• 1:16:12Caleb Hammer?

  That's pretty good. In fact, I have a guy. I have a guy helps with my panic disorder. He helps with phobias specifically and you have this thing with the shower? Let me connect you to him specifically. Cause he's really good. He is the opposite of a enablement therapist. He literally tells me I'm a pussy all the time and to shut the fuck up. It's what you need. You need someone who's gonna hold your feet to the hot water.

• 1:16:36Caleb Hammer?

  I'll also get you a course career certification so you can make some money. You don't get one, fuck you.

• 1:16:39Speaker 04

  I already have a degree. It's fine.

• 1:16:41Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, making $15 an hour, you're pathetic.

• 1:16:43Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:16:44Caleb Hammer?

  Yes?

• 1:16:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:16:45Caleb Hammer?

  Yes?

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  I have a degree in something else that I have not done.

• 1:16:47Caleb Hammer?

  Make $15 an hour.

• 1:16:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I'm going to go back to that.

• 1:16:51Caleb Hammer?

  You make $15 an hour. That's it. I don't give a shit about your degree. I got you a course career certification. A lot of people in the audience have turned them into six figure jobs. You get that, she doesn't. You get Dollar Wise forever. She doesn't. So use that. Download Dollar Wise, get your meal plan, all that good stuff. You get everything. You get helium, you get it all.

• 1:17:11Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck you.

• 1:17:18Caleb Hammer?

  And also he didn't just sell the PS5. He sold it to make you happy.

• 1:17:21Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:17:22Caleb Hammer?

  Even though you don't do anything to make him happy. That's what he told us.

• 1:17:24Speaker 04

  He doesn't even, no, no, no. He doesn't use the PlayStation. We don't use the PlayStation. Neither one of us, we use the Switch or he uses his PC.

• 1:17:32Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, but you're the one that wanted to come to the show.

• 1:17:34Speaker 04

  I asked him.

• 1:17:35Caleb Hammer?

  Right?

• 1:17:36Speaker 04

  I asked him continuously.

• 1:17:37Caleb Hammer?

  She's the one that wanted to come on, right? So he sold his PS5 to get you.

• 1:17:39Speaker 04

  I asked him continuously if this is really what he wants to do. He could have said no and I would have been fine with it. We would have been fine. But yeah, he did it anyway. It's not my fault that he did that. And I don't know why you said that.

• 1:17:51Speaker 03

  I, I said that I helped pay for the trip. That's all I said. I sold him a PS5.

• 1:17:54Caleb Hammer?

  You said in the green room, you did this to make her happy. You did say that in the green room.

• 1:17:58Speaker 03

  I didn't say anything about the PS5 in the green room. Did I?

• 1:18:04Caleb Hammer?

  To come here.

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, the trip, yeah.

• 1:18:06Caleb Hammer?

  Come here to make her happy.

• 1:18:08Speaker 03

  I'm not the PS5 part.

• 1:18:09Speaker 04

  I would have went by myself if you didn't want to go.

• 1:18:11Speaker 03

  I would know.

• 1:18:12Caleb Hammer?

  I'm glad you didn't, cause Al's learning a lot of things that he needed to learn to make his life better.

• 1:18:18Speaker 04

  That was the original plan.

• 1:18:19Caleb Hammer?

  I got therapy and a lot of stuff for Al. A lot of good stuff for Al, including a free Hammer Elite for life on the app.

• 1:18:31Speaker 03

  Oh, nice.

• 1:18:32Caleb Hammer?

  It's really good. We got three premium shows every single day, six days a week, including the post-show for this one where we call the guy that I guess wants to kill you and you want to kill him. Uh, you can keep paying for it.

• 1:18:52Caleb Hammer?

  We're also upgrading your ticket to first class so you don't have to sit next to this.

• 1:18:57Caleb Hammer?

  Okay?

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:19:02Speaker 03

  Although we might have something to talk about on the plane.

• 1:19:06Caleb Hammer?

  No, no, no. Leave her. No talking. She'll, she'll manipulate you so she can live off of you. She's concluded that her future plans do not involve you. There's nothing to talk about. She wants to talk to you.

• 1:19:20Speaker 04

  I would like, I would like for his input on anything.

• 1:19:23Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:19:25Speaker 04

  He doesn't give me his input.

• 1:19:26Caleb Hammer?

  And he shouldn't. He should leave you. You're a whore ass. We'll also do an episode of dating audit with you. If you're down, we'll help you set up your dating profile to make it absolutely sexy and.

• 1:19:36Speaker 00

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• 1:20:01Caleb Hammer?

  Great. Okay, it's one of our Hammer Elite shows. We'll do that for you.

• 1:20:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:20:05Caleb Hammer?

  Okay?

• 1:20:24Caleb Hammer?

  Let me check in though, how are we feeling?

• 1:20:26Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:20:27Caleb Hammer?

  How are you feeling?

• 1:20:32Speaker 04

  Um, I mean, I'm here.

• 1:20:38Speaker 04

  Don't really have any much feelings right now. I'm just here. I'm chilling.

• 1:20:46Speaker 04

  I'm sad. I didn't want to hurt you.

• 1:20:49Caleb Hammer?

  You cheated on him, you fuckin' whore.

• 1:20:51Speaker 04

  I didn't want to hurt him, like.

• 1:20:53Caleb Hammer?

  Again, again, again, again. I think the fourth, yeah.

• 1:21:01Speaker 04

  Sorry, I'm death glaring yous.

• 1:21:07Speaker 04

  I'm here. I'm not, I don't, I don't feel the greatest right now emotionally.

• 1:21:11Caleb Hammer?

  Good.

• 1:21:13Speaker 04

  I just, I want to be happy and I haven't been happy in forever.

• 1:21:19Caleb Hammer?

  Let him be happy and let him go. You're using him? He's not in your future, and you want to be with like a trans man? Like, what the, what is that? What is that?

• 1:21:33Speaker 03

  Incredible switch up.

• 1:21:34Caleb Hammer?

  Just give us, eventually, I know you said eventually, you don't want to be with anyone right now. He is somebody, by the way, and, uh, what, okay, what's this trans man thing?

• 1:21:42Speaker 04

  Um, I've just been somewhat attracted to a few of them in the past.

• 1:21:48Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, but you want pussy?

• 1:21:52Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:21:54Caleb Hammer?

  I think trans men have pussies.

• 1:21:55Speaker 04

  Well, some do, some don't.

• 1:21:56Caleb Hammer?

  Well, they have a dick, but it's like their clit enlarged.

• 1:21:59Speaker 04

  But I don't know, I'm not, I want something platonic, not really romantic.

• 1:22:04Caleb Hammer?

  Who wants to be with you for that? Wait, not platonic, you still want him to fuck you?

• 1:22:08Speaker 04

  Well, F buddies are out there.

• 1:22:10Caleb Hammer?

  But that's not, that's not platonic, is it?

• 1:22:12Speaker 03

  Not at all.

• 1:22:12Caleb Hammer?

  Platonic are just friends.

• 1:22:14Speaker 03

  Any of these conversations have been platonic.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  Separate person for platonic, separate person for F buddy.

• 1:22:20Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, and where does Al fit in?

• 1:22:23Speaker 04

  I do not know. I don't have a place right now.

• 1:22:26Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, oh, there you go. Did you hear that, Al? Al, did you hear that?

• 1:22:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I heard it.

• 1:22:30Caleb Hammer?

  Are you gonna leave? I'm gonna ask again now.

• 1:22:34Speaker 03

  Um, I'm rather not make this decision on the show.

• 1:22:37Caleb Hammer?

  Shit, Al.

• 1:22:40Caleb Hammer?

  Come in.

• 1:22:41Speaker 03

  Al.

• 1:22:42Speaker 04

  And technically.

• 1:22:44Caleb Hammer?

  You produced them, Lindsay, you produced them, should Al get the fuck out? Yes, sir. You should leave and leave fast.

• 1:22:52Speaker 03

  She can't quit cheating on you, buddy.

• 1:23:02Caleb Hammer?

  Here's the furniture thing, it's not a payday loan, so I, I, I gotcha. Okay, max total cost, I mean, it's still fucking crazy to be clear, but yeah, you're right, it is weekly. Thank you for correcting me on that. If you didn't do that, we wouldn't have known that maybe, that we made a really big mistake. So I guess you're renewing it every time?

• 1:23:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:22Caleb Hammer?

  Very weird, but again, your purchase, your purchase was a thousand six hundred sixty-seven, and the total payments in the end is three thousand seven hundred ninety-four. Al.

• 1:23:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:33Caleb Hammer?

  So we just, we really can't do that, so I don't know what the balance is right now, but you can early pay. If you can get a thousand six hundred in cash, you can wipe it out. If you can get a personal loan at like Calebhammer.com or something, you can wipe it out, because that'll save you a lot of money. And I don't usually advocate for people on the show to get personal loans, so it's usually not a thing. It's used for people out there that are like me, that can manage it. We got personal loans, we got car insurance, we got debt forgiveness. But I mean, this is like insane, because this is still kind of like a payday loan, but, okay, so it's forty-two point nine two weekly, so times fifty-two divided by twelve, basically a hundred eighty-six dollars a month. Her? Oh wait, I have great news for me on this. I don't give a.

• 1:24:20Caleb Hammer?

  It's interesting how that worked. Oh, Al, you got a credit one. My friend, I recommend closing this, okay?

• 1:24:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. But it doesn't need to be able to pay it off before you can close it, I think.

• 1:24:30Caleb Hammer?

  You can close it before paying off.

• 1:24:32Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:24:33Caleb Hammer?

  Doesn't mean it goes away, it's just closed. Two hundred, yeah, you have a late fee, so, yeah, late fee for about three, what do you want to say?

• 1:24:39Speaker 04

  Uh, I would like my phone back, please.

• 1:24:42Caleb Hammer?

  Sure.

• 1:24:45Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:24:45Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, you gotta text your current boyfriend.

• 1:24:47Speaker 04

  I'm not texting anyone.

• 1:24:50Caleb Hammer?

  What do you gotta do?

• 1:24:52Speaker 04

  Put it in my pocket? What do you think I'm gonna do with it?

• 1:24:54Speaker 03

  Cheat.

• 1:24:56Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna do that, I'm putting it in my pocket.

• 1:24:58Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, two hundred forty bucks, thirty dollars a month. Her? Oh, interesting, don't give a.

• 1:25:06Caleb Hammer?

  Because you need to learn how to budget on your own, because you will be alone, but that's okay. Teforally, we're gonna dating audit you, you're gonna do great. Experian, who's Experian am I looking at? With three thousand on a synchronized care card?

• 1:25:17Speaker 04

  It's mine.

• 1:25:18Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care. Who has debt to adoptive mom? Well, the only person who talks about adopting a parent is this crazy fuck in front of me, so I don't really care. Advantage, well, you didn't go to college, did you, friend? That's okay, so that's gonna be her. Uh, Chime, hey, you're spending a lot of money, don't. Her, I don't give a. About your finances, I don't give a shit. Your Chime, I don't give a fuck. Probably spending money and shit, okay. You're, I care about your cash app. My perfect Al. How we doing?

• 1:25:49Speaker 03

  I'm doing good.

• 1:25:50Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, you are, you're a king. Don't you forget it. So cash app, so you only got those two debts, the rent a center and your credit one, right?

• 1:25:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:25:58Caleb Hammer?

  You can get out of that, and we can have freedom from whores and from financial problems.

• 1:26:07Caleb Hammer?

  Unfortunately, you did have a fee on this, and you are, yeah, we did a rent a center, yep, so you're paying through your cash app. Overdraft payment, that's not good, Al, we gotta budget, we need a budget, you got DollarWise for life now, make sure you're budgeting. Uh, Five MM shop, what's that?

• 1:26:23Speaker 03

  That's a GTA, isn't it? What does it say?

• 1:26:25Caleb Hammer?

  Oh, is that your?

• 1:26:27Speaker 03

  That's your role play, isn't it?

• 1:26:27Caleb Hammer?

  Role play.

• 1:26:29Speaker 03

  Was it recent?

• 1:26:30Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, June second.

• 1:26:32Speaker 03

  What was it for?

• 1:26:33Caleb Hammer?

  Five MM dot shop.

• 1:26:35Speaker 03

  What was the per, like, amount? The amount paid?

• 1:26:39Caleb Hammer?

  I know, I know, thirty-six cents. No, that was your fee, twelve dollars and thirty-six cents.

• 1:26:43Speaker 04

  Yes, it was.

• 1:26:44Speaker 03

  No, it wasn't the game, I don't know what that is.

• 1:26:46Caleb Hammer?

  He recognizes it is.

• 1:26:47Speaker 03

  It would be under New Haven.

• 1:26:49Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, app, maybe it's a subscription to one that you used to do and you forgot about. Apple bill, cash withdraw. Uh, McDonald's, GC, Microsoft, Cash App, more rent a center, State Bank, Books a Million, Books a Million, don't buy her shit. That. Get in some bullshit, DoorDash and Subway. Probably should be doing it. Vapor, you vape?

• 1:27:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:27:12Caleb Hammer?

  Shit, buddy.

• 1:27:13Speaker 04

  He vapes very heavily.

• 1:27:15Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:16Speaker 04

  I'm just telling you.

• 1:27:16Caleb Hammer?

  I don't give a fuck about what you have to say. I don't give a shit about what you have to say. Cash app, Popeyes, nice.

• 1:27:23Speaker 04

  He's looking at me weird.

• 1:27:24Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:25Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, but he's just.

• 1:27:26Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up. Overdraft, overdraft, overdraft, overdraft, this is not good. Books a Million, we're not getting Subway and vaping and Popeyes when we're overdrafting, my friend, okay?

• 1:27:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:37Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:38Speaker 04

  Oh, I remember.

• 1:27:39Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:40Speaker 04

  I'm just.

• 1:27:41Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:42Speaker 04

  I'm trying to.

• 1:27:43Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:27:43Speaker 04

  I'm trying to remember stuff in my head.

• 1:27:45Caleb Hammer?

  Shh.

• 1:27:46Speaker 04

  I'm remembering.

• 1:27:47Caleb Hammer?

  Quiet Downs. Her, I don't care. Very good. So that's your only checking account, is that?

• 1:27:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:53Caleb Hammer?

  You don't have any savings or retirement, I assume. That's okay, you're twenty-two, you're young. Huh?

• 1:27:58Speaker 03

  I might have a 401K, but I don't think I have access to that.

• 1:28:01Caleb Hammer?

  You know how much you got in there?

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  Work.

• 1:28:03Caleb Hammer?

  You know how much you got in there? I know the books are gifts for her, buddy, you just gotta not spend money for a little bit. You live at home, so your rent's cheap, your, your rent's nothing, right? Do you owe them anything?

• 1:28:13Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:28:13Speaker 04

  He pays.

• 1:28:14Caleb Hammer?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:28:15Speaker 03

  Two hundred a week.

• 1:28:16Caleb Hammer?

  Huh?

• 1:28:17Speaker 03

  Two hundred a week.

• 1:28:18Caleb Hammer?

  To the family? To live there? Shit, what about groceries? How's that dealt with in the house?

• 1:28:23Speaker 03

  I guess they just use whatever they have to.

• 1:28:25Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so they get the groceries, okay, well, that helps. So eight hundred, you have to pay that? Shut the fuck up.

• 1:28:30Speaker 04

  You're gonna tell me to shut up, but I was paying for the groceries before, that was my rent there. I was paying for the groceries, I, I spent.

• 1:28:37Caleb Hammer?

  They'll figure it out, your family will help you, right?

• 1:28:39Speaker 03

  Tell me, what?

• 1:28:40Caleb Hammer?

  When she leaves, your family will help you, right?

• 1:28:42Speaker 03

  Mommy, yeah, I'm not gonna get kicked out.

• 1:28:44Caleb Hammer?

  But they'll help you, they'll like not charge you for groceries, right?

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:48Caleb Hammer?

  Because eight hundred's already a lot for you, because you make eighteen hundred, this is a chunky thing.

• 1:28:54Speaker 04

  To your dad.

• 1:28:54Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up!

• 1:28:55Speaker 04

  Your dad was.

• 1:28:56Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up! What's your car insurance?

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  Car insurance, two hundred and thirty a month.

• 1:29:00Caleb Hammer?

  Jeez, dude. Gas, from, from drive, drive, how much?

• 1:29:04Speaker 03

  I don't really pay much for gas.

• 1:29:05Speaker 04

  Because even if you pay for insurance.

• 1:29:07Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up! How much?

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  I don't drive.

• 1:29:10Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, so nothing? You go to work.

• 1:29:12Speaker 03

  Well, my, my ride picks me up and he doesn't.

• 1:29:14Caleb Hammer?

  Why do you pay car insurance?

• 1:29:16Speaker 03

  Because, well, the car isn't my name, so I have to pay for it.

• 1:29:19Caleb Hammer?

  Okay.

• 1:29:19Speaker 03

  But I'm allowed to use the car. I'm allowed to use the car, but I just can't bring it to work, because he needs to go to work.

• 1:29:25Caleb Hammer?

  Do you ever use the car?

• 1:29:27Speaker 03

  No, I don't make any payments on it.

• 1:29:28Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, get off this, I'm gonna cross off the car insurance, he has to pay, you're done, get off of it.

• 1:29:33Speaker 04

  He's not gonna pay.

• 1:29:34Caleb Hammer?

  Shh, then I don't care, then let it default, I don't give a shit, let it default, let it default, I don't care. You need the money to fix your life and get on. You and your family are not one person. You're to give him eight hundred dollars a month for rent, which is actually kind of a, a lot. What's your phone bill?

• 1:29:50Speaker 03

  The, um, straight talk, so it was like forty-five.

• 1:29:53Caleb Hammer?

  Okay, I'll get you helium for fifteen. TP fund, anything else you need to survive, my friend, hundred dollars, razors.

• 1:30:02Speaker 04

  He already has an electric one.

• 1:30:05Caleb Hammer?

  All that good stuff. Ten in one, whatever you do. Subscriptions, I'll try like fifty bucks, I want you to be able to play your games. You got any pets? You personally, under your care and ownership.

• 1:30:16Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:30:17Speaker 04

  We're not allowed to.

• 1:30:17Caleb Hammer?

  Shut up!

• 1:30:20Caleb Hammer?

  Medical healthcare, you got copays on a monthly basis? You will with therapy, but I'll cover some sessions first.

• 1:30:24Speaker 03

  The medical health insurance?

• 1:30:26Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:27Speaker 03

  Uh, no, it's through my job.

• 1:30:28Caleb Hammer?

  Yeah, okay, buddy, you don't need much to survive. Listen, this is, you, we got you at about a thousand bucks, which means you eight hundred dollars left, which means you can pay off all the debt pretty much in a couple of months. You save that up, that's not that difficult, and then you're free, but you need to get the car insurance off your name, I don't care if he doesn't pay it. You don't even use the car, so it's not your problem. Let it default, let it get repoed, I don't care if it's your credit for a little bit, you need a fresh restart, and then you.

• 1:30:54Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, they're just not, he's, his dad is not gonna like that at all.

• 1:30:57Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care.

• 1:30:58Speaker 04

  There is no other way.

• 1:30:58Caleb Hammer?

  I don't care, you need to live your life, tough conversations need to be had, and you need to leave, you need to get out of the house. We need to start pursuing a new career through the certifications that I give you, do the therapy that I give you, use all the tools, pay off this debt in a few months.

• 1:31:17Caleb Hammer?

  Car insurance, but he needs to lower the rent by that amount. You know, so either way, it just breaks even. Um, and at that point, we need to get you like a cheap rent and we're gonna do a dating audit with you and you need to get out and you need to leave her. No matter what she does to manipulate you, you need to leave her. Okay, guys, we're actually gonna bring in the other man in the post show via a video call. Your Hammer Financial Score is zero, as clear as day. Maybe a one, maybe a point five because the 401K is open, I don't know. But I mean, it's just like, this is Brad and you just honestly go fuck yourself. You're a horrible human being and I give a fuck that you're a part of Hammer Elite. I give, I give open and honest to everyone, no matter who they are. Go fuck yourself.

• 1:32:01Caleb Hammer?

  Disgusting witch. Join us in the post show, get your Hammer Score for free, CalebHammer.com. Join us in the post show, three premium shows every single day. The number one on YouTube for a reason, it's incredible, it's the best. Or just download the Hammer Elite app or go to HammerElite.com, it's the same membership on both. Three premium shows every single day, six days a week. Join us for an extra 20 minutes in the Financial Autopost Show, we're gonna bring in the other man. Should we call this guy? Well, look who it is. Yeah, it's that fuck freak.

• 1:32:27Speaker 03

  By the way, you should also know she brought up that she doesn't even want to be with you either.

• 1:32:30Caleb Hammer?

  I have a job. Homeless. I actually show up for that job. I get paid decent fucking money to show up to my fucking job. I don't sit there and call out and then play on my fucking computer like a ass little bitch.

• 1:32:41Speaker 03

  You work at Sonic.

• 1:32:44Caleb Hammer?

  So?

• 1:32:47Caleb Hammer?

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• 1:33:29Caleb Hammer?

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