Comfort maxxing on the interwebs

Sit back, relax and get cozy. As a matter of fact, why not put on your baggiest of clothes and burrow down in your snuggiest of blankets? This week on Endless Thread, Ben and Amory are comfy-maxxing. They'll discuss how the internet is delivering comfort right now, including a look at delicious foods from childhood and an intriguing tip on how to sleep better at night. Show notes: Calling all dad's... Whats your easy go to dinners?! https://www.reddit.com/r/daddit/comments/1reoze9/calling_all_dads_whats_your_easy_go_to_dinners/ (Reddit) What’s your favorite comfort food from your culture? https://www.reddit.com/r/daddit/comments/1reoze9/calling_all_dads_whats_your_easy_go_to_dinners/ (Reddit) My weird but effective sleep trick: pretend I’m a medieval peasant https://www.reddit.com/r/sleep/comments/1m8hgid/my_weird_but_effective_sleep_trick_pretend_im_a/ (Reddit) Amory's favorite vegan mozzarella recipe https://www.veganforum.org/threads/miyokos-buffalo-style-mozzarella.15223/ by Miyoko Schinner This episode was produced by Kalyani Saxena and co-hosted by Ben Brock Johnson and Amory Sivertson. It was edited by Dave Shaw. Mix and sound design by Paul Vaitkus.

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• 1:03Speaker 03

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• 1:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  Emery, how comfortable are you? Are you comfortable?

• 1:16Amory Sivertson?

  I'm cozy. Yeah, I got a sweatshirt. I got my nice thick socks. I got my house shoes, which should never be seen by anyone outside of my actual house.

• 1:30Amory Sivertson?

  They're the clonkiest, most comfortable things I've ever owned. How about you?

• 1:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, I'm comfortable. I got my squishy, I got my, my old man sneakers on with the big squishy soles in them.

• 1:43Amory Sivertson?

  Good.

• 1:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know?

• 1:44Amory Sivertson?

  Good.

• 1:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right, we're talking comfort food today, and I got a little, little dish for you, but I want to start with guesses at what Emery's favorite comfort foods might be. So I'm thinking like, a good steak?

• 2:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  No. Oatmeal with lots of fixins is a guess that I have.

• 2:11Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, I'd say like soup in every form. Oatmeal is like breakfast soup.

• 2:15Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, that's right. You're a soup lover.

• 2:16Amory Sivertson?

  And then, yeah, and then you got your dinner soup.

• 2:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  Like, how would you define comfort food, if you could define comfort food? Like, what does that mean to you?

• 2:28Amory Sivertson?

  It's the food that makes you go,

• 2:33Amory Sivertson?

  "Ooh, yes, this is the life I want to be living."

• 2:38Ben Brock Johnson?

  Food that makes you go, "Ooh."

• 2:40Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, food that makes you go, "Ooh."

• 2:44Amory Sivertson?

  Food that makes you go, "Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee."

• 2:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 2:51Ben Brock Johnson?

  That is less academic than I was hoping for.

• 2:55Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 2:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  But it does feel accurate.

• 2:58Amory Sivertson?

  It's curling up next to a cozy fire in food form.

• 3:03Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, so I think you're like, you're kind of like circling around it in a good way. The definition of comfort food has a lot to do with what you grew up with. So it has strong connections to home cooking. It can be connected to like, childhood. It can be connected to home.

• 3:24Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 3:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  Does that make sense?

• 3:25Amory Sivertson?

  Sure.

• 3:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  Is that ring true for you?

• 3:27Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 3:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  So, um, my comfort foods, I'm kind of a shepherd's pie guy every once in a while.

• 3:35Amory Sivertson?

  Yes.

• 3:35Ben Brock Johnson?

  When it comes to comfort food. And I make them with Impossible.

• 3:39Amory Sivertson?

  Nice.

• 3:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  Meat now.

• 3:40Amory Sivertson?

  I make them with lentils.

• 3:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  Little cardamom.

• 3:42Amory Sivertson?

  Love a shepherd's pie.

• 3:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, I also really like in the summertime, there's like a meal that I really like that is essentially cold noodles, cold Asian noodles with mint and like a bunch of fresh vegetables.

• 4:01Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 4:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  And a like peanut butter lime soy sesame sauce.

• 4:09Amory Sivertson?

  Yum.

• 4:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Well, what strikes me about that one is like, that's not what I grew up with.

• 4:14Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 4:15Ben Brock Johnson?

  And it's not connected to the home cooking that I experienced.

• 4:20Amory Sivertson?

  My version of that is, um, we, I make a vegan mozzarella, which it's very good. It's like, it's, it's like, um, Um, it's like mozzarella balls. They actually funk, they taste and operate just like balls of mozzarella and we make.

• 4:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's usually how the mozzarella comes, but yes.

• 4:39Amory Sivertson?

  Well, I know people will be skeptical just saying like vegan mozzarella balls, but I'm like, trust me, they're real balls. And I make a caprese toast with them. So you like spread the mozzarella and then thinly sliced salted, salt and peppered tomatoes and fresh basil and some balsamic olive oil drizzle on top.

• 5:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  Love it.

• 5:01Amory Sivertson?

  Whew. That's my, that's my summery comfort.

• 5:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 5:05Amory Sivertson?

  Could eat it every day.

• 5:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  I, I, I make a, um, a caprese sandwich in the summer as well. That's very similar. So I feel you on that.

• 5:14Amory Sivertson?

  Man, we could just talk about this all day.

• 5:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, we could just keep going.

• 5:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know, there's a, I would say there's a kind of a genre of posts on Reddit.

• 5:26Amory Sivertson?

  Mm hmm.

• 5:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Every couple of months, every couple of years, if you search Reddit, you will find posts, uh, you know, you will discover food subreddits that you never knew existed. And so the, this genre of posts that I really love is a genre of posts about comfort foods from around the world.

• 5:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  There was a post recently in the dad at subreddit that said, calling all dads, what's your easy go to dinners? Can you guess what the top answer to this is?

• 5:59Amory Sivertson?

  It's gotta be like nuggets, right? Your kids went through a nugget phase.

• 6:05Ben Brock Johnson?

  You're close.

• 6:05Amory Sivertson?

  Are they still in a nugget phase?

• 6:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  They're always kind of in a nugget phase.

• 6:09Amory Sivertson?

  Hot dog?

• 6:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  You're not getting warmer, but you're, you're in the zone.

• 6:13Amory Sivertson?

  Mac and cheese.

• 6:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  Quesadillas.

• 6:16Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, excellent.

• 6:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Or as I like to say, sometimes quesadillas.

• 6:23Amory Sivertson?

  That's how my mom legitimately pronounced it for years. We worked really hard on that.

• 6:30Amory Sivertson?

  A friend of mine was just talking about how when she goes out of town, her boyfriend just makes quesadillas. He just buys tortillas and cheese. I don't think he's even putting anything else in them. It's just quesadillas all day, every day.

• 6:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  That is incredible.

• 6:47Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 6:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  This, this particular post that I'm looking at, I do kind of love because again, it's full of these like, it's, it's full of some, of course, heavy dad conversation. So like, the top post is just quesadillas, period. And then somebody said quesadilla tip, put a layer of shredded cheese in the pan first, then you do your quesadilla as normal. It's like a delicious crispy cheesy hug. And then someone said, Dan dude, I'mma try this. Is it like a crunch wrap where you got the different textures going on? 110% my guy. Use it under tacos or sunny side up eggs. Your taste buds are in for an adventure. And then somebody just says, let's go.

• 7:45Ben Brock Johnson?

  I, I do love this sort of like comfort food, uh, dad energy flowing through this particular post that I'm looking at. Um, but it, it does really frequently because of, you know, the, the sort of, um, you know, that, that thing on the internet where you can reach people from all over the world. Um, it does very quickly go international. People are talking about red beans. People are talking about different noodles to make for their kids. People talk about anything crock pot, uh, chicken parm.

• 8:19Amory Sivertson?

  I love a crock pot.

• 8:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  Somebody says chicken parm, you can do it with chicken nuggets and spaghetti with sauce in a baking dish topped with cheese and broiled in the oven to melt the cheese. That's not a bad move. Spam fried rice, that sounds pretty good. Um, so it really does turn into this like lovely conversation. I think amongst at least the people in the dad at subreddit here.

• 8:47Amory Sivertson?

  Can I share, can I share one with you that I had growing up?

• 8:51Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 8:51Amory Sivertson?

  I'm just remembering, like, as we're talking about family and things that we would do, my mom would make something called hot dog roundups.

• 9:01Amory Sivertson?

  She'd take, I can't remember if I've even talked about this on this show before, but she'd buy, you know, like the croissant dough, the, the, just like in a, in a tube dough. And you take a little piece of cheese and you put it in the dough and you take a little slice of hot dog and you wrap it up in a little, you know, little pillow. And then, and then you bake it. I think you bake it because you melt the cheese and you cook the dough and it's like, it's like a miniature pig in a blanket, a hot dog roundup.

• 9:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hot dog roundup. Hey kids, we're having hot dog roundups tonight.

• 9:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  Come on, come on out of the yard, kids. We're having hot dog roundups.

• 9:46Amory Sivertson?

  Are you so, just like my mom?

• 9:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  I do like.

• 9:52Amory Sivertson?

  She's from Jersey, so she'd say, hot dog.

• 9:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hot dog.

• 9:56Amory Sivertson?

  Hot dog roundup.

• 9:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  The hot dog roundups, kids, come in. Come on in.

• 10:02Amory Sivertson?

  Getting closer.

• 10:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  But I do love where these conversations go because again, you, you really learn, you kind of learn, it's interesting. You learn a couple of layers, right? Like you learn tips and tricks that expand your own, like, worlds, right? And I love that you just use the example of hot dog roundups because there's another post that I was looking at from five years ago, from a subreddit that I didn't know existed called Eat Cheap and Healthy.

• 10:35Ben Brock Johnson?

  And somebody asked, what's your favorite comfort food from your culture? Which gets a lot of great answers. The top answer there is Ruski pierogi with melted butter, fried onions, and a, this is a technical term, a fuck ton of pepper.

• 10:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  So you you just get these ideas. It's really nice to get these ideas and also like simple ideas and ideas that really connect back to home cooking. You're not, we're not talking about like restaurant meals necessarily. We're talking about home cooking. And so you get a sense not just of, you know, all the different places that people come from, but also like what home feels like to them. And that's a really nice feeling. And whether it's hot where you live or cold where you live, whether it's summer or winter, people have these sense memories connected to the food that they eat. And there is a

• 11:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  lot of posts out there that, you know, talk about their version of, you know, chicken tendies and mac and cheese, or whatever else you're asking mom for.

• 11:48Amory Sivertson?

  Or dad, right? This is dad it.

• 11:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  Or dad, yeah.

• 11:51Amory Sivertson?

  These are dads talking about what they make for their kids.

• 11:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's true.

• 11:55Amory Sivertson?

  So what, what is that dish for your kids?

• 11:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  I've been making vampiro tacos.

• 12:01Amory Sivertson?

  What's that?

• 12:03Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's like a taco that's like extra kind of red looking with the food that you put inside of the taco, I guess. But also it has this burnt cheese on the bottom of the taco. Actually, it reconnects to the quesadilla post.

• 12:20Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 12:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  Which is you put, you put some cheese on the bottom of the, like it just straight into the pan. And then you put the taco actually on top of that and you fry it up. And you get this crispy cheese situation that also looks kind of red because it's burnt. And that's, I think, where the vampiro part of vampiro tacos comes from. So I've been making those recently and my daughter and son both just love those. Oh, saucy sauce. Little vampiro sauce. Come on, dogs.

• 12:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:03Ben Brock Johnson?

  Every time I make them, my daughter is like, Daddy, these are the best tacos you have ever made. And that happens every time I make them. So, and they don't actually change that much. So maybe that will be her comfort food when she's an adult.

• 13:19Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 13:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  My daughter did something that actually blew my mind this week, which was she came to me and she said, Daddy, I've made a decision.

• 13:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  I am not going to watch TV anymore. At the end of the day, I'm just going to help you cook because I want to learn how to cook and I want to spend that time with you and I don't need to watch TV anymore. Which really blew, actually blew my mind.

• 13:48Amory Sivertson?

  Well, this is lovely. Thank you for this, um, this comforting food quest that we are recording right at lunchtime on this particular day.

• 13:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  I know, man, I'm getting hungry.

• 13:59Amory Sivertson?

  When my stomach is like, yeah, remember how you didn't eat lunch before you did this?

• 14:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  My bad.

• 14:08Amory Sivertson?

  Well, after the break, I have a comforting story for you. So comforting, in fact, it might just lull you to sleep.

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• 15:44Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, Ben, you know this about me, but I'm a bad sleeper.

• 15:52Amory Sivertson?

  I'm a wake up in the middle of the night and wonder if I will ever fall back asleep kind of sleeper.

• 15:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 16:00Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 16:01Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm sorry dude.

• 16:02Amory Sivertson?

  That's okay. I'm working. I'm always, always working on it, which is why whenever I see any content online or elsewhere about sleep tricks, sleep hacks, here's what you should actually be doing, I'm all in on that stuff.

• 16:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  When I think of you trying to figure out how to sleep, what I picture is a very like accessorized situation. You have like a sleep mask, you have like a very intense pillow structure.

• 16:31Amory Sivertson?

  Mmm.

• 16:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's like around you, you have blankets, you have like things close by that you might need.

• 16:39Amory Sivertson?

  Totally wrong. I could have, I could have more accessories for sure. I do have a sleep mask, but I don't, I don't wear it consistently. I do, I am open to all of the new tricks and hacks. So when I saw a Reddit post about sleep that actually got served up to me on Instagram, I was like, great, yes, here we go. But for this one, I was also thoroughly amused. So this comes from r/sleep, the sleep subreddit, which all my years on Reddit, I've never been on the sleep subreddit before. I don't know why, but community of upwards of 300,000 people helping each other sleep.

• 17:20Amory Sivertson?

  And the title of this post is, "My Weird But Effective Sleep Trick: Pretend I'm A Medieval Peasant."

• 17:29Amory Sivertson?

  So I'm gonna read you, I'm gonna read you this post.

• 17:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  This is just my life trick. This is like what I love to do.

• 17:37Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, so they say, after trying everything, melatonin, white noise, breathing, you name it, I found a trick that actually helps me fall asleep. I pretend I'm a medieval peasant.

• 17:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  I sleep in a ditch covered in mud.

• 17:51Amory Sivertson?

  Basically, they say.

• 17:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Full of disease.

• 17:54Amory Sivertson?

  They say, no emails, no pills, no doom scrolling, just a tired cabbage farmer lying on a straw bed, no wolves nearby, nothing to do but sleep. It sounds dumb, but the mental shift works. No pressure to optimize rest, just old school exhaustion. I fall asleep faster pretending I've never seen a smartphone than I ever did using one to track my sleep. Try it. Pick your own vibe. Bard, Viking, 1800s librarian? Just keep it low tech and low stress. Cheers, guys.

• 18:28Amory Sivertson?

  Let's vots.

• 18:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know I'm gonna love this.

• 18:30Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 18:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm in, I'm in. I like cabbage farmer, that's good. That means they're also kind of smelly, which is good.

• 18:38Amory Sivertson?

  I mean, you could just then be worrying about your crop, but the comments for this post are great. This person is not alone. Someone says, works for me. I'm a duchess living in a palace. Very cozy, safe and stress free. Another person says, I imagine that I'm an elf wandering through a peaceful forest and I arrive at my cabin, light a fire in the hearth, relax in a soft chair with a cat curled up in my lap, and I'm out like a light. Someone else says, I'm sitting on the moon looking towards the earth. It's quiet, peaceful, and all the drama on earth is so tiny and far away. I really like that one. But my favorite, Ben, is someone saying, I act like I'm a stick of butter, melting.

• 19:25Amory Sivertson?

  And so it says, really excited to bring this up to my therapist as a strategy and see what she says.

• 19:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  That is good. I like that.

• 19:36Amory Sivertson?

  I know. So again, I saw this on Instagram originally. So when I searched for the actual post in r/sleep on Reddit, I found something interesting, which is, uh, there are several posts that read kind of like this. The original one, or the one that I saw first again, is my weird but effective sleep trick. Pretend I'm a medieval peasant. Then, a few months after that, there's a post titled, my dumb sleep hack that actually works. I roleplay a medieval merchant.

• 20:11Amory Sivertson?

  Then even more recently, from about a month ago at the time that we're recording this, my weird but effective sleep trick. So it starts the same way as the original post. Pretend I'm a Victorian child who just had a very long day in the factory.

• 20:28Amory Sivertson?

  So, these are all similar. They're all the same vibe. And I was like, oh no, is this another AI thing? That someone has just found a formula of posts that works well, gets engagement, appeals to redditors' sense of humor in particular. And so then I click on these other posts and start reading the body of them. And they all have some similar components. One is, they all have this list of no's. So the peasant one, the original one, says, no emails, no bills, no doom scrolling, just a tired cabbage farmer lying on a straw bed, nothing to do but sleep.

• 21:12Amory Sivertson?

  The medieval merchant one says, no inbox, no bills, just a wooden bed, boots off, candle guttering, nothing to do but sleep.

• 21:23Amory Sivertson?

  The Victorian Child post says, no sleep tracking, no optimizing, no four, seven, eight breathing, just a small Victorian child who has earned his rest. Another component, they all have this like, pick your X part of the post. So in the peasant post, it says, pick your own vibe, bard, Viking, 1800s librarian. Just keep it low tech and low stress. The merchant post, pick a sleepy world and keep it dumb and analog. Lighthouse keeper, caravan guard, 1800s librarian. Low tech, low stakes, sleepy.

• 22:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm falling out of love with this.

• 22:03Amory Sivertson?

  The Victorian Child post, pick your era, pick your peasant, pick your struggle. So I investigate.

• 22:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm getting sad now.

• 22:12Amory Sivertson?

  I know. So I investigate the posters themselves. The Victorian Child one, that OP has their posts hidden, which as we've talked about, I know is a thing you can do and that some people do actually do, but I find it suspicious. I find this suspicious. The medieval merchant.

• 22:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  Don't be suspicious.

• 22:30Amory Sivertson?

  Don't be suspicious. The medieval merchant post, vegetable underscore lover underscore is, that might be real. This person posts a lot in the psilocybin mushrooms subreddit and the wellbutrin subreddit, which is an antidepressant, but I'm still wary of this, you know, these posts are formulaic to me.

• 22:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 22:52Amory Sivertson?

  And then the OP of the peasant post, the first one that I found and the oldest of the three is write underscore energy underscore eight, three, two, six, which we have talked about on the show before, that particular formula of username, which I know you can have Reddit generate a username for you, but.

• 23:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yep, yep.

• 23:12Amory Sivertson?

  Again, that's another thing that like makes me suspicious of a bot account.

• 23:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  No.

• 23:18Amory Sivertson?

  So I feel, I feel both things. I feel like. This is actually a fun thought experiment, a fun thing that I will try.

• 23:34Amory Sivertson?

  And I hate that it's, that it's maybe all, or at least partially a ploy.

• 23:42Amory Sivertson?

  But I do like that it got me to the sleep subreddit, which, as I mentioned, has like more than 300,000 people in it. Some of those have to be real people and some of those real people are actually trying to help other people sleep.

• 23:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  Wow.

• 23:59Amory Sivertson?

  So I guess tonight, when I'm trying to fall asleep, I'm going to pretend I live in a world of real, breathing, thinking people. No bots, no data centers, no people trying to make money off of other people under the guise of pretending to pretend to be a medieval peasant or merchant or Victorian child. Just real human beings helping each other for the sake of helping each other.

• 24:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  Wow.

• 24:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, I mean, I like, on the one hand, it's like, whatever we can do to get Amory to fall asleep, I'm in for. You know, I'll do whatever. But on the other hand, it's like, I really don't like this kind of like subtle marketing stuff. We're kind of being tricked, you know, and I don't like that. As a peasant, as a peasant of the 2020s, I don't like that.

• 25:02Amory Sivertson?

  And hey, if you want to try it and pretend that you're a medieval peasant, good luck and I hope you're just not kept up stressing out about your cabbage crop. Because there's no such thing as a simple, stress-free life in any century.

• 25:19Ben Brock Johnson?

  It can be very stressful.

• 25:20Amory Sivertson?

  The Vikings, the lighthouse keepers, we've all, we've all got our stress.

• 25:26Ben Brock Johnson?

  God, I hope that, I hope this year's crop survives.

• 25:29Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, maybe you'll need to make yourself some comfort food to, to de-stress from, from my comfort story. Make a quesadilla.

• 25:59Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Threat is a production of WBUR in Boston. This episode was produced by Kalyani Saksana, a Regency-era romance librarian. It was co-hosted by me, Amory Sivertson, a farm sanctuary animal caretaker.

• 26:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  And me, Ben Brock Johnson, the town crier who also moonlights as court jester. We also reported and brought the stories today.

• 26:20Amory Sivertson?

  This episode was edited by Dave Shaw, the local innkeeper. Mix and sound design by our production manager and medieval blacksmith, Paul Vikas.

• 26:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  The rest of our team is a traveling band of clavichord players. Grace Tatter, Dean Russell, Emily Jankowski, and our senior managing clavichord player, Sumit Joshi.

• 26:39Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Threat is a show about the blurred lines between the cabbage crop that is doing just fine, sleep easy, it's all good, and the one that's being ravaged by bowweevils.

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  Support for this podcast comes from Is Business Broken?, a podcast from the Marotra Institute at BU Questrom School of Business. Follow Is Business Broken? wherever you get your podcasts and listen on for a preview of a recent episode featuring Janet Kang, executive director of the Just Horizons Alliance, on who stands to benefit from AI in education.

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  I am absolutely in favor of AI in learning in the right context. And just to explain why you're excited about it. Oh, my gosh, individualized support, right? Personalization and to be able to scale quality education in places where it was historically impossible. So for certain kinds of learners with different kinds of learning styles and disabilities, for example, speakers of different languages, there are amazing ways AI can boost learning. It just has to be with the right context. And age appropriateness is something we do a lot of work in because it is very

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  Different depending on where in that maturity cycle you are in terms of how your brain develops. Find the full episode by searching for Is Business Broken wherever you get your podcasts and learn more about the Marotra Institute for Business Markets and Society at ibms.bu.edu.

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