Back to the Backrooms!

Once upon a dimly lit hallway, Ben and Amory stumbled onto a beloved brainchild of the internet: Backrooms. It began as a "creepypasta"— a horror story or concept that originates online and often becomes a meme — based on the idea of glitching into an inescapable prison of empty rooms. Back in 2020, Endless Thread discussed how this chilling kernel of internet lore migrated from 4chan to Reddit. Now, "Backrooms" is a major motion picture from A24. Amory and Ben take a little field trip to the theater to see the film and discuss how the concept holds up in the hands of Hollywood.

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• 1:04Amory Sivertson?

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• 1:13Amory Sivertson?

  One truly gorgeous summer day earlier this month, Ben and I decided to opt in to a maze of corporatish, empty rooms, also known as a movie theater.

• 1:26Ben Brock Johnson?

  To see a movie on a topic some of you Threadheads may remember, Backrooms. Backrooms is this kind of horror creepypasta or meme about a video game glitch where you can slip, or as it's called, no clip, into a video game prison of empty rooms. This all started on 4chan, which then moved to Reddit and YouTube, and then Endless Thread.

• 1:47Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, we did an episode on the Backrooms subreddit back in 2020. And a time jump, skip, and a hop later, there's a major motion picture coming out on this topic.

• 1:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's directed by a young guy named Kane Parsons, who actually did a YouTube series based on the subreddit and the 4chan creepypasta before making this film.

• 2:08Amory Sivertson?

  So we headed over to the movie theater just off the Boston Common downtown. But there was a gaggle of noisy but joyful children who had no respect for our ambitions to record a little movie pre-game conversation.

• 2:22Ben Brock Johnson?

  So we ducked into a quiet fancy residential building with a very nice doorman that just so happened to have a little nook set up with a lamp, a table, and two chairs, almost like it was waiting just for us.

• 2:44Amory Sivertson?

  Well, well, well.

• 2:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  If it isn't my old Backrooms friends. We're kind of in a backroom right now. Is that weird to say?

• 2:57Amory Sivertson?

  This is not what I would call a backroom, but I do feel like we happened, we lucked into something. Or maybe unlocked into something.

• 3:05Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's kind of the opposite of the Backroom situation. Instead of no clipping into a place we can't escape, we were trying to escape something. And we no clipped into a beautiful oasis of air-conditioned quiet.

• 3:18Amory Sivertson?

  Silence, yes. We were on the Boston Common. It's just like the most gorgeous day. It's a crime that we're about to go spend two hours plus inside watching a movie.

• 3:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's me. Would I like a hot day matinee?

• 3:34Amory Sivertson?

  Yes. Set us up. Set us up. What are we doing here?

• 3:38Ben Brock Johnson?

  Five years ago.

• 3:39Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, my God.

• 3:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  In the midst of COVID.

• 3:41Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 3:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  You and I sat down to record a endless dread snack time.

• 3:49Amory Sivertson?

  For people who don't know the term snack time, that's just when we like tell each other stories. It's a snackier style episode as opposed to our full meal, deep dive episodes.

• 3:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's right. And we were throwing stories at each other. And I brought you the Backrooms subreddit. What, how would you describe the Backrooms subreddit?

• 4:13Amory Sivertson?

  Picture like yellowish beigeish walls.

• 4:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 4:18Amory Sivertson?

  Endless hallways and fluorescent lighting and just the buzz of the fluorescent lights. And what makes it so creepy is like the endlessness of the labyrinth, but also the absence of anything else seemingly like, are there people behind the walls everywhere you turn? It's just more endless hallways.

• 4:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  There might be a creature in there.

• 4:41Amory Sivertson?

  There might be a creature. Yes.

• 4:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  To me, it's like a fascinating sort of horror concept because it's very video game related. And it was five years ago that the twenty year old director.

• 4:55Amory Sivertson?

  Kane Parsons.

• 4:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  Kane Parsons. He was supposedly, you know, in all the press where they sort of talk about this like young director um, who was making a YouTube horror series. Um, and it's like maybe one of the youngest major motion picture directors of recent memory to to release a wide release film.

• 5:15Amory Sivertson?

  Mm hmm.

• 5:16Ben Brock Johnson?

  Um, he was sixteen years old when he got his start quotes. And that was like basically the exact time that you and I were talking about this.

• 5:24Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, my.

• 5:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  Isn't that crazy to think about?

• 5:27Amory Sivertson?

  God, did we make this happen? Did we make the back rooms?

• 5:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  We should find out.

• 5:32Amory Sivertson?

  Motion picture.

• 5:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  He might be an endless thread listener.

• 5:35Amory Sivertson?

  Man, if there was an endless thread to A twenty four film pipeline, I'd be so down.

• 5:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  Same, same. Um, he said something interesting. I was watching an interview about the movie, which we're about to go see.

• 5:48Amory Sivertson?

  Mm hmm.

• 5:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  Made eighty one million dollars in its first week.

• 5:51Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, the biggest A twenty four box office debut.

• 5:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  But he also talked about this kind of modern feeling of unfettered uh, urbanization, industrialization and information overload that people have no connection to. Uh, we we should test this theory as we go in to watch it.

• 6:18Amory Sivertson?

  Mm hmm.

• 6:18Ben Brock Johnson?

  Part of the sort of horror aspect of this movie is kind of like a what hath we wrought? Piece?

• 6:26Amory Sivertson?

  Hmm.

• 6:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Of this kind of again, sort of like feeling that we just don't have enough humans and humanity and soul to inhabit.

• 6:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  These like empty spaces in these buildings that we've constructed.

• 6:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  Everywhere, all over the place. So that's like a thing that I'm interested in thinking about and seeing if the movie explores.

• 6:51Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah. And also, to me, what's exciting about it is that Kane Parsons is the director of this film, but he didn't write the script. And so the fact that there was acknowledgement from, you know, someone in the industry to say, hey, here's this thing that went from 4chan to a subreddit, to now, to YouTube, to actually, maybe we could make a whole movie out of this. You just never would have seen this coming. You would never, you would never guess that that particular, it's not even like IP, it's an open source idea of creepiness, that it would become a movie that, who knows, we could walk in and come out and be like, well, that sucks.

• 7:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  That was a piece of trash.

• 7:39Amory Sivertson?

  But, but I have a good feeling about it.

• 7:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, me too. Hopefully, we don't get too scared.

• 7:46Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah. We'll talk to you guys on the other side, if we make it out.

• 7:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  Which we probably won't, to be honest.

• 8:03Amory Sivertson?

  See, this is, I mean, this is too colorful to be backroom-y, but yeah, hallway, no people, lots of doors.

• 8:15Amory Sivertson?

  Sounds like it's still previews.

• 8:25Speaker 04

  Okay, I need you guys to get me, please. I need you guys to come out and get me. Can you pop, please, standard? Standard?

• 8:41Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't like that.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  Okay, so something picked up. He put down the camera. He was using the film everything, and then something picked it up. Something picked up the camera.

• 9:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  Phew, we made it out of the Backrooms. After the break, we'll talk to some fellow escapees.

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• 10:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, we are now back outside the theater on the Boston Common, where we find three women who were just at the same screening of the Backrooms movie with us. Two friends, Min and Olivia, who just decided to catch a movie on a summary Friday morning, and a woman named Indigo, who went by herself. We started with Indigo.

• 10:56Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, so what made you come see this movie today?

• 11:00Speaker 06

  Um, I came because I was really into the web series beforehand. Um, I love analog horror. I love that type of thing. And it started off as an analog horror. That's why, like you see in the movie, it's kind of like, it has that same thing where it's kind of like a found footage type thing.

• 11:17Amory Sivertson?

  Analog horror, just meaning there's no like, like CGI monsters?

• 11:22Speaker 06

  No, analog horror basically is kind of like... Telling like a horror story through like VHSs and and and you know old cameras and things like that. You know analog media.

• 11:35Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, fair enough.

• 11:36Speaker 06

  Right.

• 11:36Amory Sivertson?

  What what made you two come see it? Min and Olivia.

• 11:41Speaker 06

  I mean for me, uh Olivia was like this morning, she was like, hey, like, do you wanna watch this movie? And I was like, oh yeah, sure, cuz like I had nothing else to do and I like horror movies. Yeah, I didn't think it would be this terrifying. Actually, I thought it would be more like psychological thriller, but it's there's a lot of John scares in there. Yeah, I think, yeah, I'm also drawn to the like the concept of like liminal space kinda, so I was really interested. But yeah, I think we were just bored, so we came to the movie.

• 12:11Amory Sivertson?

  Were you familiar with the concept of backrooms before this?

• 12:14Speaker 06

  No, not at all.

• 12:15Amory Sivertson?

  No, you'd heard nothing about it?

• 12:17Speaker 06

  No.

• 12:17Amory Sivertson?

  Whereas Indigo here, you knew a lot about backrooms.

• 12:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, I did.

• 12:20Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, what what do you think Olivia and Min, what do you think makes it feel so scary?

• 12:27Speaker 06

  Um, I think like the fact that like it's like all open space and then like you don't know when something's gonna come out of like nowhere. Yeah, same same. I think like the horrors that you cannot see but could only hear and feel are like the worst ever.

• 12:44Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, how do you interpret the ending of the movie?

• 12:47Speaker 06

  It it feels like whatever is in the mind of, you know, somebody that uh has, I don't know, something happened to them or something like that, or just memories in general, um it can become so warped within uh uh somebody else's mind.

• 13:06Amory Sivertson?

  Any other theories about what the movie means or if there is like, not that every movie needs a lesson or a takeaway, but do you think that there's like a deeper meaning or something that you will take away as you go about doing whatever you're gonna do on this beautiful day?

• 13:21Speaker 06

  For sure not. I don't wanna. Take any of that with me, seriously. I wanna leave that in there. It's nothing, it has got nothing to do with me. I think my main kind of takeaway, though, is kind of like, you can, you can let something that is a flaw within you fester up until it literally eats you alive.

• 13:47Amory Sivertson?

  Indigo Men, Olivia, thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. Would you recommend the movie? I would.

• 13:54Speaker 06

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 13:56Amory Sivertson?

  All right, you heard it here.

• 14:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  Three empty rooms out of five empty rooms, that's my review. Just kidding.

• 14:05Amory Sivertson?

  Really?

• 14:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  No, I, I thought it was good. I enjoyed it. I thought it was good tension, good tension buildup, um, throughout the movie. Didn't care too much about the characters. Didn't feel like deeply, other than the psychiatrist.

• 14:24Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Ben Brock Johnson?

  But also, her story didn't get super developed. It was sort of like impressionistic.

• 14:31Amory Sivertson?

  I know, I feel like both of the main characters, there's Clark, who is in this case, like, the patient. He owns the furniture store. He's the patient of Mary, the therapist. And neither of their characters feel that developed. Which is why, in trying to come up with a theory about, what do the backrooms mean, what do they represent for each of them? How do they end up there? It's hard, yeah.

• 14:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  But it's sort of like not a deeply character-driven storyline, right? When you, or, or like, when you think about the lore that it came from, it's like an idea, not a story.

• 15:10Amory Sivertson?

  Right.

• 15:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  And so, there's something interesting about trying to build a, like, a pretty substantial movie around that.

• 15:20Amory Sivertson?

  And I'd heard that they like, there's a thirty thousand square foot stage, or you know, set that they built. So that it would be an actual labyrinth that they were going through.

• 15:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, and so they weren't like, it's not all CGI.

• 15:35Amory Sivertson?

  It's not all, they use some, they use some CGI, I think. But it's there, it is like a thirty thousand square foot actual labyrinth that they, that the, the cast and crew claimed to have gotten lost in themselves.

• 15:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's interesting.

• 15:51Amory Sivertson?

  While working on it, yeah.

• 15:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Uh, I was thinking about some of the themes. Like, I think they really explored the colostrophobia of wide open space. In an interesting way. You know?

• 16:03Amory Sivertson?

  You just said colostrophobia.

• 16:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 16:06Amory Sivertson?

  Instead of claustrophobia. Colostrophobia sounds like.

• 16:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Colostrophobia bag.

• 16:14Amory Sivertson?

  Like when you're afraid of your, of your, um, colostomy situation.

• 16:22Amory Sivertson?

  I am also colostophobic.

• 16:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  Same.

• 16:25Amory Sivertson?

  I'm also claustrophobic.

• 16:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  But like, I feel like that, you know, exploring the colostrophobia of wide open space is interesting.

• 16:34Amory Sivertson?

  Well, there's, yeah, there's like physical claustrophobia in, that they have to like wriggle their way through tight spaces. But the irony of that is that it's nothing but wide open space.

• 16:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's like being lost in the desert.

• 16:48Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 16:49Ben Brock Johnson?

  And also, I, I thought a theme that I was thinking about was, and, and maybe this is what comes up for me and it's not relevant, but like, uh, it reminded me a lot of this idea. Because so much of it is like, it's based in the nineties, right? And like, there's this like huge nostalgia thing that's happening right now. And so much of that nostalgia is basically based around yearning for a time before the internet effectively. Or when the internet was brand new and you were still in much more, in the real world, much more than the internet. And there are also these like interesting conspiracy theories. I don't even know what they're described.

• 17:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's not like a Mandela effect, but it's sort of like alternate timeline conspiracy theories. Like some of them around like nine eleven, for instance, like somehow like we switched realities in two thousand and one, and now we're like on this like just different path that we can't get out of.

• 17:49Amory Sivertson?

  Whoa.

• 17:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  Um, and so it like reminded me some in some ways of that, that you have these two different worlds. You have this like world from the nineteen nineties, that is the real world that the characters are in. And it's like broken and messed up in certain ways, but it's still like real and navigable. And then you have this world that some would compare more to the world we live in now, which is this like endless. You have this like, you know, it's like the the prison of infinite choice, right? And like the back rooms sort of like connect to that when it when you're like thinking about the internet or the

• 18:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  internet that we've lived in for the past twenty to thirty years or twenty years or something like that. Does that make any sense? I don't know.

• 18:34Amory Sivertson?

  It does. Well, what I'm the sense that I am making of it is that oftentimes on the internet, you start in one place, you end up in a totally different place through a series of like, you know, figurative turns. And then you're like, wait, how did I get here? How do I get back out? How do I?

• 18:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  How did I get here? And how do I get out?

• 18:58Amory Sivertson?

  How do I?

• 19:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  Of this internet rabbit hole. Yes, yes.

• 19:03Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 19:09Amory Sivertson?

  One thing that I'm I'm gathering from um just the little bit of Reddit feedback that I've seen, people in the backroom subreddit so far, a a very good point that was made is that at least our understanding of backrooms is that you're not supposed to be able to get out. You're in, it's a labyrinth, you can't find your way out. But this idea of someone like tying a rope to you and being able to pull you out. Feels um like not true to the nightmare that is Backrooms.

• 19:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, that's that's a good point, and I feel like it's also it's also this like challenge that you have with a movie like this, which again, it's sort of like.

• 19:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  Most horror movies that I've seen end with at least one person getting out. So I think it sort of makes sense in a way that some people have to escape.

• 20:10Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, well, what do you take away from this experience?

• 20:15Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm gonna go back to the thing that Kane Parsons like talked about, or Kane Pixels, if you follow him on YouTube. Which is this like, there's an aspect of horror that we all feel from uh this sort of endless construction of humanity and the fact that we are in a world where a lot of the things that we are making ultimately are not, you know, they're they are uninhabited.

• 20:55Ben Brock Johnson?

  And there's something very soulless about that. And so to me, there's, yeah, that's what I take away from it. It's this kind of like, something, something capitalism, modern society, and lots of homeless people. We would know where to live, but we've got lots of empty buildings. I don't know. That's that's the part of it that sort of resonates with me. What about you?

• 21:20Amory Sivertson?

  Well, you know, mental illness is a is a theme throughout the movie. And the characters, um, at least the two main characters have some connection to either personal experience or connection to mental illness.

• 21:38Ben Brock Johnson?

  And therapy too, right? Like, and do you feel like therapy is treated?

• 21:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  How do you think the movie views therapy?

• 21:46Amory Sivertson?

  I don't know how it views it, but it's definitely um

• 21:51Amory Sivertson?

  the idea of like a path for your life. I thought the real

• 21:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  A new path.

• 21:55Amory Sivertson?

  A new path.

• 21:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  Opening a window.

• 21:57Amory Sivertson?

  Yes, opening a window and a new path to life. I was thinking, oh, these are people who want to escape their actual life. And that's what pulls them to the back room is this idea that there's something better on the other side of that.

• 22:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hmm, a false hope.

• 22:15Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, I don't know what to, I don't know what to make of it, but it's, it's certainly. It's very depressing to see those walls.

• 22:22Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes.

• 22:23Amory Sivertson?

  For an hour and forty five minutes.

• 22:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Those yellow walls, no good.

• 22:29Amory Sivertson?

  You definitely feel so, maybe that's, maybe this is my takeaway is like you just feel so much better being outside. That everything about like uh, just like piles of stuff and walls and fluorescent lights stepping outside was the the takeaway is just get out.

• 22:49Ben Brock Johnson?

  Get out.

• 22:50Amory Sivertson?

  Get out here.

• 22:51Ben Brock Johnson?

  Get out your, get out of the trash heap.

• 22:53Amory Sivertson?

  Get out of there.

• 22:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  And onto the grass.

• 22:56Amory Sivertson?

  Yes.

• 22:56Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Amory Sivertson?

  Yes.

• 22:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  Touch grass, as they say, yeah.

• 23:00Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, and maybe there's some hope in being able to actually leave the back room in this scenario because it's like, it's not too late. It's not too late to get out of that room, get out of whatever, like, whatever it is that you feel stuck in, it's not too late to get out of it.

• 23:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  I like that.

• 23:18Amory Sivertson?

  This is my, that's the takeaway I've chosen.

• 23:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, alright, that's good.

• 23:23Amory Sivertson?

  Great.

• 23:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'll take it.

• 23:25Amory Sivertson?

  Great, and it's all because of a, some creepypasta on the internet, however long ago that people ran with.

• 23:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  Thank God for creepypasta on the internet.

• 23:36Amory Sivertson?

  I don't know about that, but yes, sure.

• 23:47Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Thread is a production of WBUR in Boston. This episode was produced by Kalyani Sikseena and me, Amory Sivertson.

• 23:54Ben Brock Johnson?

  And me, Ben Brock Johnson. It was edited by Dave Shaw, mixing sound design by our production manager, Paul Vikas.

• 24:01Amory Sivertson?

  The rest of our team is Dean Russell, Emily Jankowski, Grace Tatter, and managing producer, Summit DeJoshi.

• 24:06Ben Brock Johnson?

  Joshy, Joshy, Joshy. Endless Thread is a show about the blurred lines between an actual backroom and just your grandma's dingy wallpaper.

• 24:14Amory Sivertson?

  Go grandma. If you have an untold history, an unsolved mystery, or some other wild story from the internet, a backroom, if you will, hit us up, [email protected].

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