Bridezillas and Quiz Traps

Ben and Amory share stories about potential pettiness from Reddit. Ben shares a post from r/weddinshaming post about a bride who changed her wedding to a weekday in another state. Amory counters with a teacher who used AI to foil his student's cheating. Petty or just? You be the judge. Credits: This episode was produced by Frannie Monahan. It was co-hosted by Amory Sivertson and Ben Brock Johnson. Mix and sound design by Emily Jankowski.

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• 1:17Speaker 03

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• 1:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  How you doing, snappy dappy?

• 1:34Amory Sivertson?

  I'm doing spiffaroo.

• 1:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  All right. Tickety-boo.

• 1:40Amory Sivertson?

  Tickety-boo, which is a real phrase that I thought you made up. But you're still the only person I've ever heard say it, so that says something.

• 1:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  Most Britishisms, I feel like, are one of those things where it's like, is this bedknobs and broomsticks? Where did this come from? Is it a, what's the lady's name with the umbrella? That lady? You know what I'm talking about.

• 2:01Amory Sivertson?

  No, I don't.

• 2:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  Come on, the umbrella lady. She floats in the air, the umbrella lady.

• 2:05Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, um, what's her face? A supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?

• 2:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes, Mary Poppins. Mary Poppins, my god. It took way too long for us to figure out umbrella lady's name, but thank you for saving us.

• 2:19Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, we need more whimsy in our lives. That's what that means.

• 2:23Ben Brock Johnson?

  Can someone mail us some whimsy, please?

• 2:27Amory Sivertson?

  We're too busy thinking about revenge.

• 2:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  Revenge.

• 2:32Amory Sivertson?

  Which is the focus of today's episode.

• 2:38Amory Sivertson?

  Uh oh.

• 2:40Amory Sivertson?

  Did you get revenge on me by not bringing a story about revenge?

• 2:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's sort of like pre-venge, maybe.

• 2:47Amory Sivertson?

  Oh.

• 2:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  It's in a place of pettiness. And I feel like petty was a word that we used with one another when we were planning this conversation. And so I sort of dipped into the petty zone and away from the revenge zone. But I, the background of my story surely has

• 3:09Ben Brock Johnson?

  vindictive behavior and revenge seething beneath the surface. And there will be revenge exacted after the date.

• 3:21Amory Sivertson?

  Well, then maybe we should just dive right in.

• 3:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm Ben Brock Johnson.

• 3:30Amory Sivertson?

  I'm Amory Sivertson.

• 3:32Ben Brock Johnson?

  And we're both petty.

• 3:35Amory Sivertson?

  Today, we are on Unless Thread.

• 3:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, before we get into the pettiness, I want to say that these are a couple of stories that that sort of took place over the summer. And when I first discovered this post that we're about to talk about, it was about an event that hadn't happened yet. And so we're going to be talking about an event in the future, but it was really an event that happened in the past, if it happened at all, because this is one of those posts where you're kind of like, is this story real? It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. It is so crazy that it's hard to tell.

• 4:20Amory Sivertson?

  But we maybe also all know someone a little bit like this.

• 4:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:25Amory Sivertson?

  Who has done something.

• 4:27Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah.

• 4:27Amory Sivertson?

  A little bit like this.

• 4:28Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yeah, very crazy, but also relatable. Okay, this is a subreddit that I didn't know existed.

• 4:37Amory Sivertson?

  Hmm.

• 4:38Ben Brock Johnson?

  Called Wedding Shaming.

• 4:44Ben Brock Johnson?

  And the name of this post is wedding date changed last minute, dot, dot, dot, to a weekday, dot, dot, dot, in another state.

• 4:58Amory Sivertson?

  I'm imagining the venue being like, oh, we double booked. How's Wednesday?

• 5:08Ben Brock Johnson?

  How's Wednesday for you and 150 of your closest friends and relatives?

• 5:13Amory Sivertson?

  Right. But if it's now in another state, then maybe the venue is like, we double booked. You're screwed. And then you're at that point, you're just scrambling to try to make something else work. But do tell.

• 5:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  There is certainly a venue problem here, but it goes so much deeper than that.

• 5:30Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 5:31Ben Brock Johnson?

  And I'm going to say that like the another state thing is a bit of a like red herring. Because as near as I can tell, this takes place upon the border of Washington State and Oregon. It's not like they went from Oregon to like Connecticut. You know what I mean? But the emails, the emails about this wedding are gold.

• 6:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  The original poster has been like in the comments and I've been reading their comments. At the time of recording this, this wedding has not happened yet. It's one part of it is happening on June 27th, which is a Friday. It could be fake, but it kind of checks out. And once you'll see what I mean by it could be fake once we get into this, because it's, it's just.

• 6:26Ben Brock Johnson?

  We'll see. All right.

• 6:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  First message, subject, important, all caps, three exclamation points, date change, all caps.

• 6:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  You ready for my dramatic reading?

• 6:41Amory Sivertson?

  Yes.

• 6:42Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hi, everyone, smiley face, exclamation point. We want to make you aware of a critically important update. The ceremony date is now June 27th, and the location has changed. Please note this down carefully. We've decided we want to have a church ceremony in addition to our planned beach ceremony and reception. The officiant of our choice does not do weddings at locations outside of his church. Having a church ceremony is very important to us morally and ethically. We are canceling the beach ceremony to spare redundancies. There will still be a reception on the beach.

• 7:18Amory Sivertson?

  Hmm, okay.

• 7:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  Uh, there's a little more to this. The ceremony will now be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Oregon. The reception will be the following day at blah, blah, blah, Port Angeles, Washington. If you cannot make the 27th, we understand, but please be aware that will be the only opportunity to participate in professional photos.

• 7:42Amory Sivertson?

  That's why I go to weddings, to participate in professional photos.

• 7:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  It does come out later, by the way, that the recipient of these emails is a, is a groomsmen.

• 7:52Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 7:53Ben Brock Johnson?

  Message continues. Bridesmaids, we kindly ask, you wear this yellow dress for the 27th. Still reserve the gray dress you already purchased to wear on the 28th. After viewing the interior of the church, gray just would not work. Thanks.

• 8:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Groomsmen, yellow ties will be provided for you on the day of the ceremony. Ain't that just how it goes for men and women sometimes?

• 8:20Amory Sivertson?

  Ugh.

• 8:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  Anyway, if you have any concerns, go ahead and reach out to our super girly wedding planner. Redacted. Thanks. Can't wait to celebrate with you. Heart.

• 8:33Amory Sivertson?

  That's a weird detail descriptor to put in there. Our super girly wedding planner? That's what they said?

• 8:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  Dude, just, I, it gets so much better. And all I can do is read these emails because they're so good.

• 8:48Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 8:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 8:52Ben Brock Johnson?

  Response: Am I understanding the above message correctly to mean your wedding ceremony is now on a weekday during the day? If so, I have to admit, I'm pretty surprised and disappointed. My family booked tickets months in advance to travel to Washington and the church appears to be several hours away, necessitating another hotel stay. Between that and the unexpected day off work, we can't afford this extra day. I was not participating for the party aspect so much as the special memory of seeing you and so-and-so get married and be part of this milestone, et cetera, et cetera. I apologize for the confusion if so, but please let me know ASAP. And that was like a reply all from, you know, a wedding party member.

• 9:29Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 9:30Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay. Response to that reply all. Let's be respectful and take this offline, please. Ladies, friendly reminder, contact wedding planner directly with any concerns so as not to spam everyone's inbox.

• 9:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  KTHX exclamation point. Like, you know, K, thanks.

• 9:53Amory Sivertson?

  Oh. No, I did not get that.

• 9:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 9:58Amory Sivertson?

  If you have any problems, you can talk to the manager.

• 10:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  Exactly.

• 10:03Amory Sivertson?

  You're certainly not a dear friend of mine that I've included in my wedding day.

• 10:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  Exactly.

• 10:07Amory Sivertson?

  Sheesh.

• 10:09Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, you ready?

• 10:10Amory Sivertson?

  I'm ready.

• 10:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hi, everyone. We are so excited to have you as members of our wedding party. Thank you to those of you who actually care and stuck with us. A few quick notes to do's and FYIs. General, we will no longer be using a wedding planner.

• 10:30Ben Brock Johnson?

  Redacted and I are just too quirky to fit into a box. We're doing things our own way. Please do not contact Meghan with any more questions. She is no longer involved with the planning of the wedding.

• 10:43Amory Sivertson?

  Bye, Meghan.

• 10:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  Please come early on the 28th because we have been unable to secure enough chairs. We won't really need them. We'll be dancing all night. If you're in the wedding party, you are not expected to send a gift. Your presence at our special day is gift enough. Heart, heart. As previously stated, we are unable to accommodate any dietary needs or requests. Please bring your own food if you require that.

• 11:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  It goes on. It goes on.

• 11:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  After careful consideration, we have decided that with the exception, misspelt, of our boys, this wedding will be child free.

• 11:35Amory Sivertson?

  Oh.

• 11:35Ben Brock Johnson?

  That does also include the reception. Please plan accordingly. An additional bullet. We'll have special goodie bags for all members of the wedding party available for pickup at the venue. Smile, smile, smile, smile, smile. Spoiler alert, it includes a plant. So if you're traveling internationally, please plan accordingly.

• 11:56Amory Sivertson?

  All right, all right.

• 11:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  New heading, bridesmaids. If you are over 5'5", please get these flats instead of the initially requested heels. Additional, makeup will be 300 per person per day. You don't have to get it if you don't want to on the 28th, but we kindly insist all bridesmaids get it on the 27th if they want to be in any photos.

• 12:22Amory Sivertson?

  If they want to be in any photos. If you're gonna do your own garbage makeup, that's fine, but you can't be in our pictures. No, no, no.

• 12:35Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you are not there on the 28th, by 7 a.m. you will not be let in to ensure things run on a timely schedule. Nobody wants a repeat of the, of the Bach. I guess the bachelor party or the bachelor at. Grims men, per tradition, the groom cannot see the bride prior to the ceremony. So unfortunately, there is nowhere for you all to get ready on the 28th, since you basically just need ties. This is no biggie. Some people were going to get together at such and such pub beforehand. Feel free to coordinate amongst yourselves.

• 13:06Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, so let's just take stock here for a minute. Let's take stock. So this wedding, which was originally supposed to all be on the 28th in one location.

• 13:15Ben Brock Johnson?

  At a beach.

• 13:16Amory Sivertson?

  At a beach. Now has a Friday midday ceremony component hours away. Because we do not want a repeat of the batch. The bridesmaids need to buy an additional dress. They need to buy another pair of shoes because the bride is self-conscious about her height.

• 13:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes.

• 13:37Amory Sivertson?

  Or the groom, someone is, there's a height problem.

• 13:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  Someone's too short.

• 13:40Amory Sivertson?

  They need to pay $300 to get their makeup done.

• 13:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  Per day. So it's a $600 makeup budget for individuals if they want to be in any photos.

• 13:52Amory Sivertson?

  On top of whatever this new dress is. There's nowhere for the men to get ready.

• 13:58Ben Brock Johnson?

  Nope.

• 13:58Amory Sivertson?

  Uh, there are no dietary restrictions allowed, so it's.

• 14:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  And also no children, except for the children of the couple. Please plan accordingly.

• 14:09Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, I want this to all be fake because I hate it so much, but it's, it's absolutely delicious.

• 14:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  Also, there will be plants provided. So if you're traveling internationally, please plan accordingly.

• 14:23Amory Sivertson?

  No favor for you. Oh, boy. Weddings, they really do bring out.

• 14:30Ben Brock Johnson?

  The worst. Yeah. Okay. Shall I continue?

• 14:35Amory Sivertson?

  Yes, please.

• 14:36Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hi, a few quick updates and gentle reminders. After careful consideration, we've decided there will be no speeches. Only confirmed Catholic bridesmaids and groomsmen are permitted to stand with us during the ceremony. Not our rules, the church's, SOWY, S-O-W-W-Y.

• 14:59Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, my God.

• 15:02Ben Brock Johnson?

  Some of you have not paid the 25 per plate, per person deposit for food.

• 15:07Amory Sivertson?

  What?

• 15:07Ben Brock Johnson?

  What? What?

• 15:09Amory Sivertson?

  What?

• 15:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  Which sets a poor example to the other guests as y'all are the wedding party.

• 15:17Amory Sivertson?

  Wait, everyone has to pay for their own food at this wedding? I'm revoking your ability to have a wedding.

• 15:25Ben Brock Johnson?

  We're kindly insisting each member of the wedding party chip in $650 for expenses.

• 15:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  I am sorry I have to ask at this point, but it's customary for the wedding party to just offer.

• 15:39Amory Sivertson?

  No.

• 15:40Ben Brock Johnson?

  Shrug emoji.

• 15:42Amory Sivertson?

  No, it's not.

• 15:43Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you don't drink, we gently suggest you seriously consider whether or not you really want to come to the reception. This is meant to be a once in a lifetime celebration, and it only takes one wet blanket to snuff out everyone's fire. There will be 30 minutes of open bar before the other guests arrive as a thank you to our number one ever wedding party. Love you all.

• 16:05Amory Sivertson?

  An open bar that it sounds like you're paying for for the low, low cost of $650 per person.

• 16:11Ben Brock Johnson?

  Last message, all caps, bold, important, period. Read this, period.

• 16:18Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, I can't wait.

• 16:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you are no longer participating in our wedding, pulling out just days before the ceremony, we totally understand, exclamation, exclamation.

• 16:30Amory Sivertson?

  Great.

• 16:30Ben Brock Johnson?

  But please be advised, we won't forget who stood with us or not. Heart emoji.

• 16:41Amory Sivertson?

  Wow, I really thought it was going to read important. The wedding is off.

• 16:47Ben Brock Johnson?

  I mean, it kind of seems like it should be.

• 16:51Amory Sivertson?

  Wow. Oh, God, do people like that actually exist? Do weddings like this actually exist?

• 16:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  I mean, these are screenshots. I mean, you can definitely like, you can doctor those up, no problem. But, you know, I did read through the comments. OP 13 hours ago, as of this reading, says, I got the last email yesterday and it's been radio silence since then. Unsure if this is it or not, but I have a feeling it is. It's very cathartic to share this with strangers. I can be blunt with about how totally freaking nuts this whole thing has been.

• 17:29Amory Sivertson?

  Is the OP not going now, I'm assuming? Or?

• 17:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  Hmm, great question. And it was asked in the comments.

• 17:37Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 17:37Ben Brock Johnson?

  Somebody asks, and OP says, I'm a groomsman for now. I plan to go and take copious notes. Man, I hope it works out, you know?

• 17:51Amory Sivertson?

  What do you mean? This sounds like the start of a beautiful fairy tale partnership. I wish them matrimonial bliss.

• 18:00Ben Brock Johnson?

  What do you got for me?

• 18:01Amory Sivertson?

  Oh, I'll tell you after a quick break.

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• 20:12Amory Sivertson?

  Okay, Ben.

• 20:14Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay, Emery.

• 20:16Amory Sivertson?

  We're, we're far enough out of our formal academic years that I feel like I can ask you, did you ever cheat on a test in school? Or an assignment?

• 20:33Ben Brock Johnson?

  I would say in, I want to say sixth grade, there was a pretty sophisticated math test cheating thing that happened that I was involved in.

• 20:45Amory Sivertson?

  Okay.

• 20:46Ben Brock Johnson?

  I don't think I got caught, but it, but the guilt crippled me for a long period of time. But I will say that I did, I definitely turned in a couple of unopenable files in college to some professors in order to give myself another 12 hours.

• 21:09Amory Sivertson?

  So I have a story for you, if you couldn't already tell, about cheating. These days, we hear a lot about students using ChatGPT and other AI tools to cheat.

• 21:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  Okay.

• 21:22Amory Sivertson?

  But this was a post in the Petty Revenge subreddit about a teacher using AI to catch his students cheating. So it was posted, at the time that we're recording this, it was posted just like a week and a half ago. And the subject line is, "Students kept cheating, so I made 24 versions of the same quiz."

• 21:49Ben Brock Johnson?

  That's like, I mean, it's diabolical, but I'm kind of here for it.

• 21:54Amory Sivertson?

  So he deleted the post itself, but I remember it well because I, I delighted in this and I have, I have more information for you.

• 22:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  Deleted and delighted.

• 22:06Amory Sivertson?

  Yep, deleted and delighted.

• 22:11Amory Sivertson?

  So he uses, I think it was ChatGPT specifically, to take this same test, make 24 different versions specifically of the answers to the questions. So it's a multiple choice test. The questions are all the same. The questions are in the same order, but the options A, B, C, and D are different 24 different times. So then he's passing out different versions of the quiz to his students. I think in the post, he had more than 24 students in the class, if I'm remembering correctly. But that's still enough versions of the quiz that you kind of, you observe where the kids

• 22:53Amory Sivertson?

  are sitting and who had the same answers and who didn't. He does say in a comment, even though the post was deleted, he's still in the comments section for the post. He says in a comment further down, these are high school freshmen. They're about 15 years old. And

• 23:12Ben Brock Johnson?

  You almost, you almost feel bad for him. I mean, ninth grade seems, it's just a, I look back on it now and I'm like, what a fresh little baby bean I was at age 14. You know what I mean? Like, it just seems so long ago to me.

• 23:27Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah. And I do, I do remember the sort of temptation of like, ah, I don't know. Is it this or that? And that person is right there and I can see their answers. So I can like appreciate the temptation, but I also really respect the, the approach here. Oh, he also, a fun detail is that he also labeled all of the versions of the test Form B. So that if you did glance over at your, you know, your peer next door's paper test, you'd see like, oh, that says Form B and mine says Form B. So we must have the same version.

• 24:04Ben Brock Johnson?

  He's really going for it. He is like, He's like turning the knife.

• 24:09Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 24:10Ben Brock Johnson?

  You know, after it goes in.

• 24:11Amory Sivertson?

  So, his post is deleted, but because I can see who the OP is, I'm looking through his, um, his other post history.

• 24:20Ben Brock Johnson?

  Frustrated, angry teacher posting history.

• 24:24Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, I mean, he's in a lot of, he's in a lot of, uh, teaching subreddits and a lot of, uh, gun subreddits, but, um, but on the teaching note, he had commented on someone's post in the teachers subreddit. That post was, "Hot take: Using AI to help with lesson planning doesn't make you a bad teacher." And my OP, comments on that post to say,

• 24:50Amory Sivertson?

  "I had a post in another sub where I described using ChatGPT to make different versions of a test I wrote years earlier, where the multiple choice options were shuffled for each question, because I was tired of people copying their neighbors' multiple choice quizzes. Most people agreed I was using AI for a good purpose, almost 80,000 upvotes in one day, but I was stunned by how many people accused me of being a hypocrite for using AI to prevent cheating. They don't understand that I was using a tool for one of its intended purposes and was not doing anything unethical. They just assume all use of AI is cheating, when in reality, it offers so many wonderful advantages to educators when used correctly. I've used it to refine rubrics that focus on specific learning targets,

• 25:35Amory Sivertson?

  to suggest creative project ideas that allow students to demonstrate mastery of different skills. I was especially disappointed by how many teachers called me lazy or dishonest for utilizing AI, even though it didn't write anything original for me. I didn't think I described anything groundbreaking and know of multiple similar methods that teachers have used for ages. But people were so fixated on the fact I used AI that what I thought was a mildly amusing story turned into a massive debate about AI's place in education. I deleted the post because it was overwhelming and exhausting to have my phone going off constantly."

• 26:13Ben Brock Johnson?

  I'm kind of like on this this teacher's side when it comes to the.

• 26:21Ben Brock Johnson?

  Look, you and I have talked a lot about this. I, you know, I I hold great skepticism for what is currently being referred to as artificial intelligence's

• 26:34Ben Brock Johnson?

  ability to have a positive impact on a deeply flawed society that I live in, right? And also, I don't love the Luddite vibes of people just like piling on when someone uses it in a way that might not just simply be bad.

• 26:59Amory Sivertson?

  And also, this is something that AI, I think, can do quite capably if you're feeding it the information correctly. Where he has written the questions, AI is just randomly generating different ways of ordering the potential answers. And that seems just kind of brilliant.

• 27:24Amory Sivertson?

  It was interesting to me that he talked about the barrage of negative comments. I mostly saw other teachers jumping in to say, that's genius, man. Or just other people who, we were all students at one point, some still are, saying like, wow, that's really smart. You know, you definitely would have caught some people in my science class back in whatever year. Someone said, next time, keep the choices the same, but change the questions. So like, keep the answers the same, but put the questions to the actual quiz in a different order. Which, you know, ChatGPT could also do, could also spit out different, or, or, you know, insert AI tool of choice,

• 28:07Amory Sivertson?

  could also like make, who knows, maybe like 84 different versions of of the quiz next time. Which might make grading a little bit more time consuming if you're still hand grading it the way that this particular teacher did.

• 28:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  So are you see, are you like Team Teach?

• 28:26Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, in this, in this instance, I am Team Teach.

• 28:29Ben Brock Johnson?

  Team Teach.

• 28:30Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah, keep it up, Teach. This was a delicious dive into all things petty, all things revenge, all things petty revenge.

• 28:39Ben Brock Johnson?

  Ain't that the truth?

• 28:40Amory Sivertson?

  Yeah.

• 28:41Ben Brock Johnson?

  Please send us your pettiness. We're here to receive it.

• 28:44Amory Sivertson?

  Please, please. If you've got more wedding ridiculous to make me feel like maybe that story really is real, lay it on me.

• 28:59Ben Brock Johnson?

  By the way, that wedding story I told you earlier in the episode, uh, yeah, no, we don't know if it's real. And I did check to see if the post got updated or if the poster, the OP, updated in another thread. And the answer's no. So we don't know if the wedding happened.

• 29:18Amory Sivertson?

  We don't know if it went off with a hitch or if there was just a hitch. You know what I mean?

• 29:24Ben Brock Johnson?

  Yes, I do. And, uh, and so, you know, it's just, it's one of those stories that could be real, could be fake, but we can relate a little bit sometimes, maybe. This episode was produced by Frannie Monahan with help from Grace Tatter. It was co-hosted by Benzilla.

• 29:46Amory Sivertson?

  And me, Amory.

• 29:48Ben Brock Johnson?

  Teach.

• 29:50Amory Sivertson?

  Amory Teach.

• 29:50Ben Brock Johnson?

  Teacher Sivertson.

• 29:51Amory Sivertson?

  Sivertson, Teacherson. It was mixed in sound design by Emily Jankowski and edited by Meg Kramer.

• 29:57Ben Brock Johnson?

  The rest of our team is Grace Tatter, Dean Russell, our production manager, Paul Vikeis, and our managing producer, Sumitad Joshi, Joshi, Joshi.

• 30:08Amory Sivertson?

  Endless Thread is a show about the blurred lines between petty weddings and sneaky teachers.

• 30:17Ben Brock Johnson?

  If you have an untold history, an unsolved mystery, or another wild-ass story from the internet you want us to tell, you can hit us up, [email protected].

• 30:48Speaker 00

  Support for this podcast comes from Is Business Broken?, a podcast from the Marotra Institute at BU Questram School of Business. Follow Is Business Broken wherever you get your podcasts and listen on for a preview of a recent episode featuring Janet Kang, Executive Director of the Just Horizons Alliance, on who stands to benefit from AI in education.

• 31:10Speaker 08

  I am absolutely in favor of AI in learning in the right context.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  And just to claim why you're excited about it.

• 31:17Speaker 08

  Oh, my gosh, individualized support, right, personalization, and to be able to scale quality education in places where it was historically impossible. So for certain kinds of learners with different kinds of learning styles and disabilities, for example, speakers of different languages, there are amazing ways AI can boost learning. It just has to be with the right context. And age appropriateness is something we do a lot of work in because it is very different depending on where in that maturity cycle you are in terms of how your brain develops.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  Find the full episode by searching for Is Business Broken? wherever you get your podcasts. And learn more about the Marotra Institute for Business Markets and Society at ibms.bu.edu.

• 32:07Speaker 07

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• 32:36Speaker 09

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